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Talk:Devil May Cry Series

2012-07-20T21:25:55Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* The new DMC reboot */

"Unknown" for Lady's pistol is as in "I'm too busy to look up other images for it right now." This whole article is just a placeholder for now while I go though looking for weapons. Anyone know if Blue Rose is supposed to be anything other than "revolver the size of a house?" [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The Blue Rose is basically the Smith and Wesson Model 500, or similar, but with six chambers instead of five, and with two barrels.--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 02:57, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

== Hybrid Guns ==
Dante's Ebony and Ivory are NOT [[M1911 pistol series|Colt M1911s]]. They're hybrid guns, combining features from the Colt M1911a and the [[Heckler & Koch USP|Heckler & Koch USPs]]. This is apparant in the slide, area around the recoil spring, and the fact that Ebony and Ivory has pivto-style triggers, like the H&K USP, but unlike the M1911. The same trick of combining two guns was used by Capcom in [[Resident Evil 4]], when they combined an H&K USP, [[Heckler & Koch Mark 23|Mk. 23s]], and a [[Smith & Wesson Sigma]]. If you think I am wrong, please argue for your point of view, but please do not just delete this entry without an explanation. Thank you.--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 21:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Ebony and ivory ARE 1911 based pistols, no matter what anyone says. I own 4 1911's and are very familiar with them, Before I've ever seen the game guns I built a 1911 with a compensator attached to the rail and after seeing them it looks extremely similar. The trigger difference is far from a good reason. People have trimmed the bottom of a 1911 trigger to look hindged and functions just as normal. As I said I'm writing from experience not because I play a lot of games and THINK I know because I've seen them in fps.
:You're a little late to the party, dude. Look at the article, this issue was resolved months ago.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 22:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I only saw it today. I'm viewing it on the imfdb website and the only post says it was a 1911/USP mix 'n match. I couldn't leave an incorrect statement without leaving behind the correct one.
:This is just the talk page. The article, the part that matters, is correct.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 02:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Lady's Sidearm ==

It's not a 1911, it looks more like a custom EAA Witness with a longer barrel and a longer and heavier slide with a compensator. Try looking at it in-game for the shape of the grip, the higher profile frame (which has the milling cuts found on the CZ 75), and the shape of the trigger guard (but in the end it might just be a hybrid gun). If you watch the cut-scene before level 9, it shows a close-up of a casing from Lady's handgun and it says 9mm on it (also she has ONE pistol, not two). On a side note, Lady's Vz.61 Skorpion has much larger than normal magazines, but all in all it's sill just a Vz.61 Skorpion (it also has a large bayonet mounted on it).

PS: Dante's handguns are NOT 1911/HK USP hybrids, they're just heavily customized 1911s. Just because the milling on the slides looks like the USP (and also the Sig P220), does not make it part USP. I've seen a mod for 1911s called Hi-Power Cuts, which mills the front of the slide to make it look like the milling on a Browning Hi-Power's slide. As for the triggers, they're also just custom additions, they don't look like USP triggers at all in-game.

I see nothing on here to state any resolution. I see one person who put it was a 1911/USP mix 'n match. I only saw this today, and couldn't leave an incorrect statement without letting people know what's right.

== The new DMC reboot ==

Dear God, I really hate that they reboot the franchise and gave Dante this emo young punk look [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Dante always kinda looked like an emo punk. [[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 20 September 2010 (UTC)

You misunderstand how I see Dante. Sure he has the white hair and anyone in real life with that kind of hairstyle would be sorta emo or punk like, but for Dante, it's different. He's a tough guy. An asshole and a douchebag. He looks at everything as a joke and has fun at the risk of his own life and even the faith of the human race as long as he's amused. That's not really the trait of an "emo punk". His powers during the cutscenes are only defined on how hilarious the results are and his dialogue are anything but emo. He's smug, but likeable. He's does not take anything seriously and would laugh at the face of death itself and most likely did from time to time. Everything around him has this dark demonic goth look about it, but Dante is the shining light that makes even the most grim situations laughable. That is what Dante of the Devil May Cry series is about.

Now this reboot, he doesn't even have the white hair. He's too skinny, too young looking, I mean younger than Devil May Cry 3 Dante. He looks like he's in high school trying to be a rebel without a cause oh yeah and a smoker. The creator of Dante always felt that Dante not smoking made him more badass and now we got this punk kid pretending to be Dante. I've always believe that a character who smokes isn't a badass unless he is already a badass without the smoking. The smoking only enhances the badassery of a character that already is bad ass without it. There's nothing funny or amusing about this reboot Dante. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:53, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Well,Excalibur,I agree. If it was like Bond,where he was smoking from the beginning,and then stopped in later progressions(With reason other than actor change),it'd be understandable. this guy just began to turn into a loser with an awful look without reason why or how. ANd the smoking thing is stupid. I liked the pizza thing from DMC 3(at the beginning),and the strawberry sundae thing from the animated series. Things like that seemed to crop him out from most other protagonists. But now he's just conformed face in a crowd of hundreds of other bad ass protagonist badasses who aren't even badass.--[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump_Shotty_Justice]] 16:25, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

AAC Honey Badger

2012-05-28T01:19:37Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Specifications */

[[Image:AAC honey badger.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Honey Badger - 7.62x35mm]]
__TOC__
{{Gun Title}}
== Specifications ==
(2011 - Present)
*'''Type''': Assault Rifle

*'''Caliber''': 7.62x35mm

*'''Weight''': {{convert|lbs|6.5}}(unloaded)

*'''Length''': {{convert|in|24}} - {{convert|in|29}}

*'''Barrel length''': 6 in (15.24 cm)

*'''Feed System:''' {{STANAG}}

*'''Fire Modes''': Safe/Semi-Auto/Full-Auto
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AAC Honey Badger

2012-05-28T01:11:26Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Specifications */

[[Image:AAC honey badger.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Honey Badger - 7.62x35mm]]
__TOC__
{{Gun Title}}
== Specifications ==
(2011 - Present)
*'''Type''': Assault Rifle

*'''Caliber''': 7.62x35mm

*'''Weight''': {{convert|lbs|6.5}}(unloaded)

*'''Length''': {{convert|in|24}} - {{convert|in|29}}

*'''Barrel length''': 6 in (150 cm)

*'''Feed System:''' {{STANAG}}

*'''Fire Modes''': Safe/Semi-Auto/Full-Auto
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Riding Bean

2011-08-07T16:34:57Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Smith & Wesson 629 .44 Magnum */

Burn Up!

2011-08-07T16:13:16Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Unidentified Rocket Launcher */

User:Pump Shotty Justice

2011-07-08T16:31:04Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Preferred Weapons */

Still a bit new to the site.
:Don't mock me.
:I'm an idiot. Exploit it if you can.
== Favourites ==
Favored Movie(s):Terminator 2:Judgment Day,No Country For Old Men,Live Free or Die Hard,Death Sentence,Pulp Fiction

Favored Game(s):Half-Life series(mods included),The Punisher,Black,All Call of Duties and Medal of Honors,Counter-Strike Source,Resident Evil series,Metal Gear Sold 4: Guns of The Patriots,F.E.A.R. series,and Killzone series

Favored Anime(s):Hellsing,Black Lagoon

Favorite Gun(s):.357/.44 Magnum(any will do.),Uzi 9mm,H&K USP,12-Gauge Shotgun(as with the Magnum,any will do.)

Favored Quote(subject to change):

:Shaggy 2 Dope:Your bad. Your bad...Not mine. Yours. Your bad.
:Violent J:What the fuck was that?
:Shaggy 2 Dope:I mean,she just walked right into it. What'd I do?
:Violent J:How are your just gonna just almost kill that bitch?! At least go see if she's alright!
:Shaggy 2 Dope:She's still walking and talking and all that good shit,man. She's a'ight.
:Violent J:Shit like that will get you some time in hell,brother.

== Preferred Weapons ==

Rossi Taurus Circuit Judge-Pinnacle of light fire weaponry.

Mossberg 500-Pump Shotty Justice

<nowiki>Fuck you,I'm Irish</nowiki>
[http://pimpmygun.doctornoob.com/oldapp.php]

== Weapons I've fired ==
:[[Smith & Wesson Model 29]]-I stumbled the first shot I fired. Christ,it's powerful
:[[Taurus Model 66]]-I believe only with .38 Special rounds. Weak...
:[[Ruger Mini-14]]-Before I was the overweight teenager I am I now. I had to have help to fire the weapon...man it was like f%^king cannon.
:[[Heckler & Koch USP]]-I didn't expect the kick to be as bad as it was.
:M16 .22-It was fun!
:[[Uzi]]-Man,I can honestly say,I don't regret firing this weapon.
:[[Remington 700]]-...no comment.
:[[Ruger 10/22]]-Just like the Uzi. Just fun.
:[[Remington Model 11-48]]-The shotgun I fired was called the Winchester Model 50. But...I don't know anymore,whatever.
:Now I don't remember everything,but I believe I've also fired a Ruger pistol of some sort,and a cricket .22 bolt action

User:Pump Shotty Justice

2011-07-08T16:30:46Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Preferred Weapons */

Still a bit new to the site.
:Don't mock me.
:I'm an idiot. Exploit it if you can.
== Favourites ==
Favored Movie(s):Terminator 2:Judgment Day,No Country For Old Men,Live Free or Die Hard,Death Sentence,Pulp Fiction

Favored Game(s):Half-Life series(mods included),The Punisher,Black,All Call of Duties and Medal of Honors,Counter-Strike Source,Resident Evil series,Metal Gear Sold 4: Guns of The Patriots,F.E.A.R. series,and Killzone series

Favored Anime(s):Hellsing,Black Lagoon

Favorite Gun(s):.357/.44 Magnum(any will do.),Uzi 9mm,H&K USP,12-Gauge Shotgun(as with the Magnum,any will do.)

Favored Quote(subject to change):

:Shaggy 2 Dope:Your bad. Your bad...Not mine. Yours. Your bad.
:Violent J:What the fuck was that?
:Shaggy 2 Dope:I mean,she just walked right into it. What'd I do?
:Violent J:How are your just gonna just almost kill that bitch?! At least go see if she's alright!
:Shaggy 2 Dope:She's still walking and talking and all that good shit,man. She's a'ight.
:Violent J:Shit like that will get you some time in hell,brother.

== Preferred Weapons ==

Rossi Taurus Circuit Judge-Pinnacle of light fire weaponry.
Mossberg 500-Pump Shotty Justice

<nowiki>Fuck you,I'm Irish</nowiki>
[http://pimpmygun.doctornoob.com/oldapp.php]

== Weapons I've fired ==
:[[Smith & Wesson Model 29]]-I stumbled the first shot I fired. Christ,it's powerful
:[[Taurus Model 66]]-I believe only with .38 Special rounds. Weak...
:[[Ruger Mini-14]]-Before I was the overweight teenager I am I now. I had to have help to fire the weapon...man it was like f%^king cannon.
:[[Heckler & Koch USP]]-I didn't expect the kick to be as bad as it was.
:M16 .22-It was fun!
:[[Uzi]]-Man,I can honestly say,I don't regret firing this weapon.
:[[Remington 700]]-...no comment.
:[[Ruger 10/22]]-Just like the Uzi. Just fun.
:[[Remington Model 11-48]]-The shotgun I fired was called the Winchester Model 50. But...I don't know anymore,whatever.
:Now I don't remember everything,but I believe I've also fired a Ruger pistol of some sort,and a cricket .22 bolt action

User:Pump Shotty Justice

2011-06-20T18:30:28Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Favourites */

Still a bit new to the site.
:Don't mock me.
:I'm an idiot. Exploit it if you can.
== Favourites ==
Favored Movie(s):Terminator 2:Judgment Day,No Country For Old Men,Live Free or Die Hard,Death Sentence,Pulp Fiction

Favored Game(s):Half-Life series(mods included),The Punisher,Black,All Call of Duties and Medal of Honors,Counter-Strike Source,Resident Evil series,Metal Gear Sold 4: Guns of The Patriots,F.E.A.R. series,and Killzone series

Favored Anime(s):Hellsing,Black Lagoon

Favorite Gun(s):.357/.44 Magnum(any will do.),Uzi 9mm,H&K USP,12-Gauge Shotgun(as with the Magnum,any will do.)

Favored Quote(subject to change):

:Shaggy 2 Dope:Your bad. Your bad...Not mine. Yours. Your bad.
:Violent J:What the fuck was that?
:Shaggy 2 Dope:I mean,she just walked right into it. What'd I do?
:Violent J:How are your just gonna just almost kill that bitch?! At least go see if she's alright!
:Shaggy 2 Dope:She's still walking and talking and all that good shit,man. She's a'ight.
:Violent J:Shit like that will get you some time in hell,brother.

== Preferred Weapons ==

:[[Image:USP9mm.jpg|thumb|none|250px|Can't be too careful]]
:[[Image:Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_29-8.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Just don't make 'em like they used to.]]
:[[Image:Ruger10_22.jpg|thumb|none|475px|Just slap on a thirty round mag,I'm good to go.]]
:[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Because sometimes covering fire needs justification.]]

<nowiki>Fuck you,I'm Irish</nowiki>
[http://pimpmygun.doctornoob.com/oldapp.php]

== Weapons I've fired ==
:[[Smith & Wesson Model 29]]-I stumbled the first shot I fired. Christ,it's powerful
:[[Taurus Model 66]]-I believe only with .38 Special rounds. Weak...
:[[Ruger Mini-14]]-Before I was the overweight teenager I am I now. I had to have help to fire the weapon...man it was like f%^king cannon.
:[[Heckler & Koch USP]]-I didn't expect the kick to be as bad as it was.
:M16 .22-It was fun!
:[[Uzi]]-Man,I can honestly say,I don't regret firing this weapon.
:[[Remington 700]]-...no comment.
:[[Ruger 10/22]]-Just like the Uzi. Just fun.
:[[Remington Model 11-48]]-The shotgun I fired was called the Winchester Model 50. But...I don't know anymore,whatever.
:Now I don't remember everything,but I believe I've also fired a Ruger pistol of some sort,and a cricket .22 bolt action

Idolmaster: Xenoglossia

2011-06-20T18:26:37Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Fictional Rifle */

Talk:Heckler & Koch XM8

2011-06-16T22:52:48Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Hopefully no more seeing these in movies */

==Reasons for failure?==

Supposedly this weapons system was to become the new standard rifle of the US army, but I'm at a loss as to why it was eventually cancelled. The "obvious answers" might be that "American weapons companies like having their stranglehold on equipping such a nice customer as the US army" or that "H&K didn't bid low enough" (as said by the old army truism "remember, all of our equipment was made by the lowest bidder"), but I think there's more to the story than either of those.

H&K's bid to make this "modular weapons system" adaptable to four battle field roles (standard carbine for standard infantry use, compact carbine for PDW use, automatic rifle with bipod and hi-capacity magazine for SAW-type use, and finally a designated marksman variant with a longer barrel and better optics) certainly sounds like a "hostile takeover" strategy of the corporate kind--was it possibly too ambitious and too threatening to corporate interested to have all those weapon types supplant all those individual weapons being used (and paid for) by the US armed forces? Asking everyone to "hand over your M4s, your M249 SAWs, your FN P90s, and your M14s--we've got something better than those which will do all 4 jobs!" definitely could cause some stocks to fall.

Finally, if the XM8 really is just the G36 in a different exterior, why didn't they make a more ambitious and less conventional design, possibly in a bullpup formation? The SA80 (also designed by H&K) had its hiccups early on but appears to be a reliable weapon today, and with the experience gained from its development and deployment I don't see why a better version could be made for the XM8 project. The ambidexterity problem could even be solved with a little ingenuity, kind of like how the FN-F2000 is ambidextrous not because it ejects down like the FN P90 does, but because it dribbles rather than spits spent casings.

I would like to see more of this rifle in movies and games, possibly even with more use of its "transformational capabilities" as well. Seeing a film character rapidly change his XM8 compact carbine variant to a DMR variant could be nice.

Any answers from those in the know would be appreciated. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

look like arming an army is more complected then it seems. Rex095

My take is it failed for a number of reasons. I am a bit of a fan of the XM8 but the biggest design flaw I see is that it lacks Picatinny rails. It only has the Picatinny Attachment Points for mounting of optics. The advantage to that is optics don't need to be zeroed quite as much, but in the real world that's useless because you can't put any existing optics on. Plus, no rails on the side or bottom, so no attachment of lasers (although I've heard the XM8 has an infrared laser built into the optic, feel free to correct me) and you can't attach the M203. While its reloading method is possibly the most ergonomic I've seen, it feeds from G36 mags, and the U.S. uses the STANAG magazine found in the M4/M16.

And yes, cost does have a huge effect to it. I've never seen the cost per unit for the XM8, but I can imagine that it can be pretty expensive. Also, the M16 platform has been in use for so long and it's been drilled so far into the heads of some people that they have trouble letting go of it or accepting that any other design completely different from it might work. Sorry, that was just personal opinion.

One last big malfunction it had is that the reciever melted during extended automatic fire. The sad part is that if HK had put more money into that I'm sure they could've solved it.

I think the biggest thing is just the fact that the U.S. military just doesn't like to change anything and they find no new need for a new rifle. Colt themselves said it took them over a decade to get an extractor spring changed on the M4. The M16/M4 is probably here to stay for a very very long time. [[User:Mandaloin|Mandaloin]] 09:06, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

The production cost for an XM8 is about 400$... The cost for an M4 is 600$ and that of an M16 is 800-900$

:WHOA WHOA WHOA! That is NOT true, The company HAS to sell something to make money on, it costs I would estimate $200-$400 dollars for both the M16 and M4, the Military buys them at a cheaper price than the price we see on the shelves at the gunstore. The way HK does business I'm sure the XM8 would have sold for more to the military.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Weight and the LMG version were the official reasons for its cancelation. The receiver melting occurred when they were trying to reduce the weight of the weapon to around 4 lbs. Current test/prototype models have increased the weight and the problem has supposedly gone. The LMG aspect also caused issue as there was no easy way to swap barrels if the barrel overheated (though barrels overheating in and of itself was never an issue). Also it failed to improve over the M4/M16 100% in all aspects of weapons performance, which was a mandate put out by the government. One last thing was while most versions of the XM8 used the proprietary mounting system (the circles on the side of the gun), their were some concept models late in testing with traditional rails.

There is a better modular weapons system coming out anyway the Remington ACR.

It failed because, simply put, testing proved it wasn't what the Army wanted. New weapon systems aren't funded and fielded simply because they run a little cleaner. It would be a massive waste of money when you add up the costs (the new weapons themselves, new spare parts, new magazines, retraining of troops to know how it ticks... we're talking in the hundreds of billions of dollars here) and compare that to the negligible advantage it provides (it's got a piston and... wait, what else?). And switching to completely new weapon systems in the middle of two wars poses the real possibility of logistical complications (i.e., getting M16 magazines and spare M4 barrels when your entire unit has XM8s) rendering combat units utterly defenseless in hostile territory. It may look all space-age like a laser gun, but the DoD simply does not want or need it when the M4 does the job just as efficiently. Until some country decides to adopt it, it's going to remain ''dead''. If the big green Army wanted a gas piston so bad, M4s and M16s are easily converted with new upper receivers without the need for retraining. And not to mention the SCAR will eventually filter down into regular combat units as time goes on. I'm not saying there aren't better small arms out there, but the XM8 doesn't provide much of an advantage of the current issue M16/M4. And like is pointed out in the post above mine, the Remington ACR takes everything the XM8 is and throws the full modularity of the M4 into it. And please, people, '''sign your posts'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:57, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I could see the XM8 still being useful to small teams n' such, being able to swap out parts and magazines with your squadmates in the field no matter what role they play because they have the same base weapon as you could be a big advantage. But the ACR could probably do the same thing and it's supposedly better, but my point still stands. Good for small teams, bad for an entire military. I expect that we won't phase out the M4 or M16 until the next revolutionary change to the gun world. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 07:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Well the 416 is coming close to doing that, wouldn't you agree?
--[[Special:Contributions/67.86.148.125|67.86.148.125]] 15:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

*It's an AR-15 with a gas piston. I believe that specific "revolutionary" development has been done before quite a few times, starting in about 1969. To be exact, it's a gas system stolen wholesale from the AR-18. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 15:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't referring to the 416 as a next revolutionary step in firearm design, I was trying to state that the HK416 is coming close to replacing the M16 family, at least some branches of the US military.
:The same can be said of the of the SCAR. It's already being used by the Rangers and Border Patrol. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I guess you're right. But that's the only way I could think of the XM8 being of any use to our military, but if the SCAR already has that role then it's pretty much worthless to us. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 18:22, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

:If the HK 416 is that much better, I don't understand why it scored lower than the XM8 in the "extreme dust environment" test. Still, the XM8 system had a lot of potential that could have been harnessed in its extra reliability and modularity. Changing the internals to accept STANAG magazines, and to be more heat resistant as well as using standard rail systems could be done relatively easily. I'm surprised that more "Private Military Contractors" or SF operators haven't picked up on this gun given its modularity and thus its ability to be reconfigured easily between the demands of different missions. Even if this gun disappears into history like the OICW did, it'd be nice to see it in more games and movies. It's a nice break from AKs and AR-15s. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 03:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

The HK 416 scored lower because AR-15s weren't designed to take a piston; that's what the AR-18 was for. The main reason why the XM8 failed was because aside from reliability (which is still a debatable point, given that the US has been running DI M16s/M4s for decades without mass failure), the XM8 only really met par with M16/M4 effectiveness. When it comes down to it, you're still firing a 5.56mm NATO round out of a carbine, and that isn't worth phasing out so many M16/M4s that do the exact same thing. What I'd have liked to have seen from the "dust environment" test would be an HK G36A1 in the mix; for all we know, the XM8 was just an "updated" G36 that HK tried to sell to the US. The XM8 inherited its proprietary magazines and ambidextrous cocking handle from it, and who knows what else.

They've entered the XM8 into the Individual Carbine competition, and my guess is that it'll fail there too.

[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.127|72.189.150.127]]AUA

I think there were heating issues with the XM8 during testings and they never resolved the problem. Also I've seen pics of the XM8 being fielded in Iraq but I don't think these guys were US military. They weren't dressed in any familiar uniforms. Maybe they were contractors. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

:I recently discovered an article from the Army Times website that [http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/05/army_xm8_rifle_070531/ blames the Army bureaucracy] for the demise of the XM8. The pressure to open up the bids to competition probably came in part because FN didn't want their lucrative M249 contracts with the army to be superseded by the LMG form of the XM8, though I'm sure Colt was pretty ticked that H&K might be elbowing into its commercial territory too. Can anyone tell me just how (un)true this article is? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 05:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

::Army Times isn't owned or affiliated with the ''actual'' US Army, so I'd take what they claim with a grain of sand. It's doubtful we'll ever know the ''concretely true'' reason for its failure, but it's a fact that the XM8 and M4 are pretty much on par in terms of effectiveness and that isn't going to justify buying a million new carbines that do the M4's job no better than the M4 already does. Besides, try attaching a vertical forgrip, ACOG, PEQ-15, and Surefire light to an XM8. You ''can't'', because none of those mods (mods which won't be going away anytime soon) are backwards compatible with PCAP and the gun's existing RDS is permanently attached. As a result, you have to buy from HK, in addition to the carbines themselves, all new accessories amounting to even more millions of dollars. People claim Colt has a stranglehold on the US military, adopting the XM8 would have been HK wrapping a noose around the US military's neck and putting their hand on the lever which opens the trapdoor beneath its feet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 17:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

:Is the US Army collaborating so much with H&K really such a bad thing? Didn't the British government collaborate with them a lot way back in the 80s when the time came to refit their SA80 rifles? They also bought a controlling share during those days, too, so the British government called the shots then, not H&K. Nothing bad happened there with that close collaboration then. What problems do you foresee with a similar collaboration between the USA and H&K?

:I also remember two of the major "user feedback" points of the M4 Carbine were that they wanted a lighter and more reliable weapon. The XM8 delivered on both. The accessory problems you mentioned would not have been difficult to overcome. The PCAP system was supposedly developed because it kept the "zero" of accessories more securely (not really an issue with foregrips, but definitely an issue with laser pointers, grenade launchers, and scopes/non-iron sights), but the earlier XM8 prototypes did have conventional rail systems which could be reverted to if necessary. Subcontracting another company to build PCAP-compatible accessories could be another option. Further, changing the chambering to 6.8x43mm or the like shouldn't be too much of a problem (if it's done before mass production is approved) if a caliber change is deemed to be necessary. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 19:43, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

::I don't see how changing the caliber to 6.8 would be any improvement either when you consider that a number of piston ARs in that caliber are readily available already. In addition, FN has a forthcoming 6.8mm caliber conversion for the SCAR system and the ACR is easily converted to 6.8mm at the user level. All three platforms are pretty much on par with the XM8 in terms of effectiveness ''and'' are compatible with currently fielded accessories (why buy millions of new accessories when the currently fielded ones work just fine?). The weight decrease is negligible at best with the current weight of the carbine variant at 6.4 lbs [http://www.hksystems.com.au/xm8.htm] compared to 6.9 lbs for most loaded AR-type carbines. True, the ACR and SCAR-L are a bit heavier at around 7 lbs or so each, but both offer much more adaptability OTS than the XM8. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

The problem as well with the XM8 is that the US Marine Corp has a serious problem about changing their rifles. If the XM8 was adopted by the Army, it would have taken a while before the Marines would abandon their M16s and M4s. They always seem to be the last guys to change their current weapons for the new thing. Also the SCAR's been having problems as well getting adopted [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:39, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

:The Marines don't have the budget to blow on weapons programs left and right like the Army does, though. When the Corps adopts a new piece of kit, they need to get as much use out of it as possible because they don't have the cash to replace it right away should it fail. Think of how many combined billions of dollars the US Army sank into the Advanced Combat Rifle, XM29, XM8, XM307, and XM312 programs only for none to be adopted, then consider that now they're (A) set on upgrading all their M4s and (B) simultaneously running a competition for a completely new carbine to supersede the M4. Add to that the LSAT program and the XM25 airburst grenade launcher (the only so-far salvageable part of the OICW program). And that's just in the ''small arms'' category alone. Running development programs all willy-nilly like that would ''bankrupt'' the USMC. But I wouldn't say the Marines are ''always'' last to adopt the new stuff. The M16A2 and A4 were born within the USMC, after all. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:52, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Hopefully no more seeing these in movies ==

I really hope a lot of action movies and even games of the future to come would stop using the XM8 to be the image of "the rifle of the future" look. Even I made the naive mistake once and thought this rifle was cool, I hope that new comers into the world of firearms will wise up quick and see just because it looks kinda cool and spacy...doesn't mean it's NOT a complete piece of crap. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

How is the XM8 a piece of crap? Nobody seems to think there's an middleground with the XM8. Either you love it or you think it's a disgrace not worthy to even be thought of. Why do you hate it so much?

Probably just another M16/4-Series Fanboy whose jaw would drop to the ground in awe, when the XM8 blows the M4 to pieces in reliability-tests.
:Till the XM8 starts melting.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

why is there a wierd cartoonish/not-real picture of the XM8 on some pages.itlooks like it has been digitally made ona computer [[user:smish34|smish34]]
:Probably because a "weird cartoonish/not-real" picture is easier to make than a picture of one of the couple hundred prototypes in existence is to get. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::I believe those pictures are from the official Army press releases. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XM8-Poster.jpg] --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 01:28, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I still think that the XM8 will still apear in film, and game based couple years in to the future.

That's because when designers look to a "future" gun, instead of being original and making one up, they pick a gun that is not on any production scale at all. They might as well have the G11 star in games and future war movies again because it was so future like when that thing came out [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:18, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:Do me a favor and look at the Ghost Recon: Future Soldier talk page. ''Those'' monstrosities are what results when game designers try to be original and make a gun up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 17:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

:XM8 might be better if it wasn't all fucking plastic,pardon my language. In fact,a lot of weapons would be better,but wouldn't be used in mass production if you know,more steel work would be involved. Of coures,there are holes in the design for steel worked weapons as well as there are synthetic weapons and weapon parts. But this is an opinion from someone who thought there was no difference between clip and magazine,which there are several.--[[Special:Contributions/50.42.75.36|50.42.75.36]] 02:00, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
::Yeah for one thing they are not the same thing. Anyway, the fact that the XM8 is made of "plastic" as you call it isn't the problem. Many successful rifles are made of "plastic". The AUG, the G36, the F2000, the Tavor, the QBZ series. There is nothing wrong with the polymer material. It can be as strong as steel and make the weapon lighter and that is what the infantry needs. Lighter weapon means lighter the load and more ammo they can carry into battle without the fatigue. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Well,not to be Randy P. Goatboy,but why the heck did SCAR succeed the XM8? Was it more...adaptable? With the SCAR-H,SCAR-L,the subtypes of those...was that the reason it won? So to speak?--[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump_Shotty_Justice]]

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== Favourites ==
Favored Movie(s):Terminator 2:Judgment Day,No Country For Old Men,Live Free or Die Hard,Death Sentence,Pulp Fiction

Favored Game(s):Half-Life series(mods included),The Punisher,Black,All Call of Duties and Medal of Honors,Counter-Strike Source,Resident Evil series,and Metal Gear Online

Favored Anime(s):Hellsing,Black Lagoon

Favorite Gun(s):.357/.44 Magnum(any will do.),Uzi 9mm,H&K USP,12-Gauge Shotgun(as with the Magnum,any will do.)

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:Shaggy 2 Dope:Your bad. Your bad...Not mine. Yours. Your bad.
:Violent J:What the fuck was that?
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:Violent J:How are your just gonna just almost kill that bitch?! At least go see if she's alright!
:Shaggy 2 Dope:She's still walking and talking and all that good shit,man. She's a'ight.
:Violent J:Shit like that will get you some time in hell,brother.

== Preferred Weapons ==

:[[Image:AMTHardballer5in.jpg|thumb|none|250px|Can't be too careful]]
:[[Image:Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_29-8.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Just don't make 'em like they used to.]]
:[[Image:Ruger10_22.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Just slap on a thirty round mag,I'm good to go.]]
:[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Because sometimes covering fire needs justification.]]

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== Weapons I've fired ==
[[Model 29]]-I stumbled the first shot I fired. Christ,it's powerful
[[Taurus Model 629]]-I believe only with .38 Special rounds. Weak...

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== Leon's Default Pistol ==
Man, I wish Capcom would name this thing. Always having to say "Leon's RE4 gun" gets annoying after so long...

Here I'll name it for you, "The gun that Capcom is to lazy to name"
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

Well,maybe it should have a combination of any of the names of the real guns that it looks like.

I mean,it shouldn't be that hard to figure it out...[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump Shotty Justice]]

The"USPTacticHAHFOOLEDYOU" ?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 04:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

How about the "Hecklasmithakochasigmauspwesson 9mm"
:Tack "9mm" onto the end of that, and we have our winner.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:49, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay,so I didn't realise how many friggin' weapons it resembled. It was just an idea.

We have a name for it now. The [http://projectumbrella.net/articles/ARMS-Jan-06-Vol-211 Silver Ghost].--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool.

The official name for Leon's 9mm is Silver Ghost.
:Thank you, Mr. Anon, for telling us all something we already knew. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 03:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
::HA HA HA, OH WOW. --[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to put this in. From day one I always thought the pistol looks like a mix of a USP, Ruger P95 and M9. Like if you just mixed and matched parts from one gun to the other, this is what you'd get. Actually, if you'd take a look at this: http://www.the-horror.com/index.php?id=features&s=re4demos&p=3 you'll find that there's some credence to my Ruger idea.

== Shotgun Shells ==

Anyone else notice that the green boxes of "Heavyfield" ammunition for the shotgun are labeled as slugs?

Yeah I noticed it too

== Is the Black Tail really the Springfield XD? ==

I ask this question because the pistol grip in the black tail is identical to the FNP-9 DA/SA series. This will make a lot of sense in the point that the punisher is based on the Five-Seven which is also from FN.

:Sorry, but Resident Evil doesn't have a contract with FN, which should be obvious from the fact that they renamed the guns. But let's compare. Here's the FNP-9:
[[Image:FNP-Pistol.jpg|thumb|450px|none|]]
Here's the Springfield:
[[Image:Hs-xd-3.jpg|thumb|450px|none]]
Here's the gun in-game:
[[Image:RE4 Blacktail.jpg|thumb|450px|none|The fact that it's striker-fired as opposed to having an external hammer should be the first giveaway.]]
-protoAuthor 01:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I understand this but the picture of the FNP-9 that your presenting is from the left side but if if you look at it from the right side as the picture of the black tail they look a like. Even a simple detail as the 3 vertical lines in the rail when the XD has six in total.

Thar's right; ignore the fact that the Blacktail uses a striker instead of a hammer. That obviously doesn't matter. And what the heck do you mean by "Vertical lines in the rail"? You can't even see the rail on the Blacktail because of the laser mount. Do you mean the grooves in the front of the trigger guard?

PS: This isn't the only place he's pushing this. See here [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category_talk:Weapons] --[[Special:Contributions/141.165.142.112|141.165.142.112]] 23:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

this is my leon´s gun try on paint. It was made from a s&w sigma, there is a part taken from an image from here[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_(RE4)]
[[Image:Leon_9mm.JPG]]

It looks OK, but Leon's handgun resembles a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] Expert more than a Sigma.

You forgot the wood grips.

Oh, and also, you can go here for images [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category:Weapons]. I'm an admin there, and you have my permission to use information, images, blah blah blah. Same permissions go for all other RE articles on IMFDB. The scans that depict Leon's Handgun and the anatomical breakdown in the text were done by myself[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_%28RE4%29]. I appreciate having the RE Wiki cited, but I don't care enough to protest if it isn't cited.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

*I did not know how to put them or had them. Remember that i used paint.-thebarry1394

A usp looks far away from leon´s handgun. I mean, Leon´s is a fictional gun. And some of the details on the slide are too different from each other. And here´s the usp Leon´s try on paint (without the custom grip -I don´t have them, and don´t know how to make them in paint-)

[[Image:Leon-USP_9mm.JPG|thumb|450px|none|here you have your usp modeled handgun]]

==Handcannon==
I made another RE gun with paint, this time the handcannon:
[[Image:RE4_handcannon.JPG]]
The underbarrell thing is suposed to be a laser.-Thebarry1394

Any chance you could do the same thing for the Broken Butterfly?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 00:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I´ll try..., but give me some time, the break open will be difficult- Thebarry1394

==Broken Butterfly==

[[Image:Broken_butterfly.JPG]]

If I missed anithing, tell me, because it was kinda slow the process..., not like anithing I had tried before!

or, a longerbarell version:
[[Image:Broken_butterfly-lb.JPG]]

not even close. Try Colt Navy grip, lower frame and recoil shield with a Schofield top-strap, hinge and barrel. That little flare on the back... not sure how to do that. I wanna say you'll use a Schofield cylinder, but I'm not 100%.

I made it with a saa pic i found here, nothing else. I looked at the broken butterfly pic in the main page, a schofield, and tried my best. I can´t mix pictures because in paint, i cant change lightning, and i dont have photoshop. But I`ll redo the main thing.
(I need a good pic of the in game one)

Nevermind what I said, it's an SAA/Schofield. I threw this together in about 10 minutes:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/residentevil/images/7/71/Broken_butterfly.jpg
I think the recoil shield may actually by a Schofield. So... it's still a work in progress.

cool, but i can see the saa reloading gate, can you fix that (I mean for helping you to make this beuty be even more perfect)

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe the recoil shield from the left side and then mirroring it. I can't recall whether or not the 1873 C&B Uberti produces has a recoil shield or loading gate.

Mirror the lefty. If not, you´ll get in serious trouble triying to fix it with another pic or photoshop. (I mean, if you have acces to the left side picture...)

==HD Screenshots==
Yo, I have the PC version of the game, which looks infinitely better than this. Anybody mind if I take some new shots? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

Please do. Not only are PC games easier to take screenies from (console games either require illegal methods or specialized hardware to record their video output), they can also be much higher resolution if you have the hardware to support it. There's just a few small problems with the PC version of RE4 which made me pass it up though . . .

1) The graphics were based off the PS2 port. That means lower-poly models, lower resolution textures, no dynamic lighting like in the Gamecube version, and fewer Ganados, thus giving you a harder time stringing together kill combos when playing the Mercenaries mode. They could have combined the Gamecube version's graphics along with the PS2's features (or even put in higher-resolution textures in place of the low-resolution originals for the console versions, like the PC ports of Halo 2 and Silent Hill 3), but for some reason they didn't (even though most PC hardware now is perfectly capable of supporting a game like this, even with enhanced textures).

2) No aiming with the mouse (really something to make you mad).

If Capcom/Ubisoft put out a higher-resolution texture patch it might make the screenshots better, but even if there isn't such a patch (and I know the powers that be here look down on anything other than the most well-known mods, especially minor texture mods), then your work will still be appreciated. It'd be very nice to have high-resolution screenshots without all the chromatic abberation/compression artifacts that are in the current revision of this article. Remember to save them in JPEG format so that they don't break 300 kb in filesize--the mods don't like bloated files. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 05:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

:Rodger Dodger, I'll do what I can. The in game stuff really doesn't look great on the PC, I'll admit. The inventory images are probably the reason to try it out. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Alright, I have the shots. What I could get anyway. My usual screencapture stuff had it's first ever misfire, for some reason it was only capable of about 1 image per 5 seconds while playing RE4. I tried to get some reloading images for the more interesting weapons, and of course I have inventory left/right for everything. Will put up soon. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Go get 'em, tiger! I'm looking forward to the new high-res screenshots.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:05, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay. Mostly done. Still need Ada's Shotgun, an image of the MP9, perhaps the silenced Ghost, and last a Gangster Outfit Chicago Typewriter. I have many save games with many pesetas, but never in quite the right places. Also: I'll make sure each weapon description has links. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Mmm, these screenshots are looking very impressive. I still think it's a bit stupid that Capcom still hasn't learned the value of good English writing for its games, not to mention checking for errors in spelling or bad "ammuniton" logic (like how the shotgun shells are labelled slugs in the ammo box's textures). Heh, at least the "keep out of reach of children is still there," not that there ARE any children to be found in Resident Evil games. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==Undo==
Reverting the Handcannon ammo caption, there ain't much reason to restate what is in the picture. Sorry M14Fanboy. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

:Meh, it's alright, Just though it was funny to point out. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

==Handcannon Ammo==
Has anyone noticed that the box says '''5 caliber''' on it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

It says ".5 Caliber", Most non gunnies dont know to put the 0 after the .5, and so it becomes ".5". Ive found this is common in places that are used to the metric system...[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Converting handgun calibers from inches to millimetres is easy when you remember this little fact--.40 caliber in a gun is equivalent to 10 mm in real life (this is why I've heard the 10x25mm round should have been called the ".400 Magnum"). If you want the size of .50 caliber in millimeters, then it's simple to realise that .50 caliber is 25% larger in diameter than the .40 caliber round, so likewise the size in millimetres is 25% bigger, giving you the approximate size of 12.5mm to finish.

In general, dividing a caliber in inches by 0.4 will give you the approximate size in centimetres, while multiplying a bullet diameter in centimetres by 0.4 will give you the approximate caliber in inches. I'm neither a math nor gun whiz, but a little simple algebra and gun knowledge helped me figure this out. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok.... I say that its common in countries with the metric system b/c I have a few gun books out of the UK and all of them refer to .50 cal as .5 cal. Im thinking its simply because they see no need for there to be a 0 in there.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 01:39, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

:The way I figured it out was by comparing some known quantities. I knew that 6mm BBs were .24 caliber, so I was able to extrapolate 9mm = .36 and some others. Same trick with .308 = 7.62 I think(did I get that right?). [[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

What does that have to do with what I'm saying? I'm saying that it is common in the UK/ Metric system countries to lose the 0 in .50, and you are talking about converting caliber to mm... I know what mm equals in caliber, and many others do too. Im just saying that people who dont deal with bullets in caliber tend to not know why there is a hundredth place in a caliber designation when if it was a normal number it would only have a tenth place. Also your calculations are technically off... .50 BMG isnt actually .50 inches, its .510 and therefore is not 12.5mm but 12.7mm (.50 AE and .500 S&W are both .50, but are still 12.7mm). Same as a .38spcl being .357" in diameter and a .45 ACP being .452". You ARE technically correct with .308 being the same cartridge as 7.62mm BUT .308 (and therefore "7.62"mm) is 7.82mm in diameter.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 09:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==AMT Hardballer Longslide! Now without long slide!==
'Tis not a Longslide, just the standard Hardballer. Ok? You random unregistered user who plays too much Hitman? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

It doesn't look like an AMT Hardballer. It's grip safety, backstrap, and hammer are all that of an original M1911.

Goddammit, keep the discussion in the discussion page (Not to the guys above me): --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 19:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, it is nice to mention that there is a handgun with the frame like a Colt 1911, but chambered in .45 magnum. This handgun is the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]]

Actually, its a standard Colt M1911 with the Hardballer's laser sight.

The "Dart Gun" actually looks more like a Mendoza RM-200 or equivalent air rifle than anything; the only other rifle that would look like that would be some kind of .22 semi-automatic, and that doesn't really make sense given the load (special darts that probably would require a bolt-action or other manual operation).

[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]Someone[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]

I agree with the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]] Theory,only to say it would have to be the Mk. IV. Added on with the Hardballer sight. But,from how it looks,I'd have to agree with the M1911. I'd almost like to be an idiot and call it an [[AMT Automag Pistol Series]] IV. Just saying.---[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump_Shotty_Justice]] 00:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Resident Evil 4

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== Leon's Default Pistol ==
Man, I wish Capcom would name this thing. Always having to say "Leon's RE4 gun" gets annoying after so long...

Here I'll name it for you, "The gun that Capcom is to lazy to name"
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

Well,maybe it should have a combination of any of the names of the real guns that it looks like.

I mean,it shouldn't be that hard to figure it out...[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump Shotty Justice]]

The"USPTacticHAHFOOLEDYOU" ?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 04:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

How about the "Hecklasmithakochasigmauspwesson 9mm"
:Tack "9mm" onto the end of that, and we have our winner.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:49, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay,so I didn't realise how many friggin' weapons it resembled. It was just an idea.

We have a name for it now. The [http://projectumbrella.net/articles/ARMS-Jan-06-Vol-211 Silver Ghost].--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool.

The official name for Leon's 9mm is Silver Ghost.
:Thank you, Mr. Anon, for telling us all something we already knew. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 03:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
::HA HA HA, OH WOW. --[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to put this in. From day one I always thought the pistol looks like a mix of a USP, Ruger P95 and M9. Like if you just mixed and matched parts from one gun to the other, this is what you'd get. Actually, if you'd take a look at this: http://www.the-horror.com/index.php?id=features&s=re4demos&p=3 you'll find that there's some credence to my Ruger idea.

== Shotgun Shells ==

Anyone else notice that the green boxes of "Heavyfield" ammunition for the shotgun are labeled as slugs?

Yeah I noticed it too

== Is the Black Tail really the Springfield XD? ==

I ask this question because the pistol grip in the black tail is identical to the FNP-9 DA/SA series. This will make a lot of sense in the point that the punisher is based on the Five-Seven which is also from FN.

:Sorry, but Resident Evil doesn't have a contract with FN, which should be obvious from the fact that they renamed the guns. But let's compare. Here's the FNP-9:
[[Image:FNP-Pistol.jpg|thumb|450px|none|]]
Here's the Springfield:
[[Image:Hs-xd-3.jpg|thumb|450px|none]]
Here's the gun in-game:
[[Image:RE4 Blacktail.jpg|thumb|450px|none|The fact that it's striker-fired as opposed to having an external hammer should be the first giveaway.]]
-protoAuthor 01:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I understand this but the picture of the FNP-9 that your presenting is from the left side but if if you look at it from the right side as the picture of the black tail they look a like. Even a simple detail as the 3 vertical lines in the rail when the XD has six in total.

Thar's right; ignore the fact that the Blacktail uses a striker instead of a hammer. That obviously doesn't matter. And what the heck do you mean by "Vertical lines in the rail"? You can't even see the rail on the Blacktail because of the laser mount. Do you mean the grooves in the front of the trigger guard?

PS: This isn't the only place he's pushing this. See here [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category_talk:Weapons] --[[Special:Contributions/141.165.142.112|141.165.142.112]] 23:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

this is my leon´s gun try on paint. It was made from a s&w sigma, there is a part taken from an image from here[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_(RE4)]
[[Image:Leon_9mm.JPG]]

It looks OK, but Leon's handgun resembles a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] Expert more than a Sigma.

You forgot the wood grips.

Oh, and also, you can go here for images [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category:Weapons]. I'm an admin there, and you have my permission to use information, images, blah blah blah. Same permissions go for all other RE articles on IMFDB. The scans that depict Leon's Handgun and the anatomical breakdown in the text were done by myself[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_%28RE4%29]. I appreciate having the RE Wiki cited, but I don't care enough to protest if it isn't cited.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

*I did not know how to put them or had them. Remember that i used paint.-thebarry1394

A usp looks far away from leon´s handgun. I mean, Leon´s is a fictional gun. And some of the details on the slide are too different from each other. And here´s the usp Leon´s try on paint (without the custom grip -I don´t have them, and don´t know how to make them in paint-)

[[Image:Leon-USP_9mm.JPG|thumb|450px|none|here you have your usp modeled handgun]]

==Handcannon==
I made another RE gun with paint, this time the handcannon:
[[Image:RE4_handcannon.JPG]]
The underbarrell thing is suposed to be a laser.-Thebarry1394

Any chance you could do the same thing for the Broken Butterfly?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 00:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I´ll try..., but give me some time, the break open will be difficult- Thebarry1394

==Broken Butterfly==

[[Image:Broken_butterfly.JPG]]

If I missed anithing, tell me, because it was kinda slow the process..., not like anithing I had tried before!

or, a longerbarell version:
[[Image:Broken_butterfly-lb.JPG]]

not even close. Try Colt Navy grip, lower frame and recoil shield with a Schofield top-strap, hinge and barrel. That little flare on the back... not sure how to do that. I wanna say you'll use a Schofield cylinder, but I'm not 100%.

I made it with a saa pic i found here, nothing else. I looked at the broken butterfly pic in the main page, a schofield, and tried my best. I can´t mix pictures because in paint, i cant change lightning, and i dont have photoshop. But I`ll redo the main thing.
(I need a good pic of the in game one)

Nevermind what I said, it's an SAA/Schofield. I threw this together in about 10 minutes:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/residentevil/images/7/71/Broken_butterfly.jpg
I think the recoil shield may actually by a Schofield. So... it's still a work in progress.

cool, but i can see the saa reloading gate, can you fix that (I mean for helping you to make this beuty be even more perfect)

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe the recoil shield from the left side and then mirroring it. I can't recall whether or not the 1873 C&B Uberti produces has a recoil shield or loading gate.

Mirror the lefty. If not, you´ll get in serious trouble triying to fix it with another pic or photoshop. (I mean, if you have acces to the left side picture...)

==HD Screenshots==
Yo, I have the PC version of the game, which looks infinitely better than this. Anybody mind if I take some new shots? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

Please do. Not only are PC games easier to take screenies from (console games either require illegal methods or specialized hardware to record their video output), they can also be much higher resolution if you have the hardware to support it. There's just a few small problems with the PC version of RE4 which made me pass it up though . . .

1) The graphics were based off the PS2 port. That means lower-poly models, lower resolution textures, no dynamic lighting like in the Gamecube version, and fewer Ganados, thus giving you a harder time stringing together kill combos when playing the Mercenaries mode. They could have combined the Gamecube version's graphics along with the PS2's features (or even put in higher-resolution textures in place of the low-resolution originals for the console versions, like the PC ports of Halo 2 and Silent Hill 3), but for some reason they didn't (even though most PC hardware now is perfectly capable of supporting a game like this, even with enhanced textures).

2) No aiming with the mouse (really something to make you mad).

If Capcom/Ubisoft put out a higher-resolution texture patch it might make the screenshots better, but even if there isn't such a patch (and I know the powers that be here look down on anything other than the most well-known mods, especially minor texture mods), then your work will still be appreciated. It'd be very nice to have high-resolution screenshots without all the chromatic abberation/compression artifacts that are in the current revision of this article. Remember to save them in JPEG format so that they don't break 300 kb in filesize--the mods don't like bloated files. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 05:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

:Rodger Dodger, I'll do what I can. The in game stuff really doesn't look great on the PC, I'll admit. The inventory images are probably the reason to try it out. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Alright, I have the shots. What I could get anyway. My usual screencapture stuff had it's first ever misfire, for some reason it was only capable of about 1 image per 5 seconds while playing RE4. I tried to get some reloading images for the more interesting weapons, and of course I have inventory left/right for everything. Will put up soon. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Go get 'em, tiger! I'm looking forward to the new high-res screenshots.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:05, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay. Mostly done. Still need Ada's Shotgun, an image of the MP9, perhaps the silenced Ghost, and last a Gangster Outfit Chicago Typewriter. I have many save games with many pesetas, but never in quite the right places. Also: I'll make sure each weapon description has links. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Mmm, these screenshots are looking very impressive. I still think it's a bit stupid that Capcom still hasn't learned the value of good English writing for its games, not to mention checking for errors in spelling or bad "ammuniton" logic (like how the shotgun shells are labelled slugs in the ammo box's textures). Heh, at least the "keep out of reach of children is still there," not that there ARE any children to be found in Resident Evil games. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==Undo==
Reverting the Handcannon ammo caption, there ain't much reason to restate what is in the picture. Sorry M14Fanboy. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

:Meh, it's alright, Just though it was funny to point out. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

==Handcannon Ammo==
Has anyone noticed that the box says '''5 caliber''' on it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

It says ".5 Caliber", Most non gunnies dont know to put the 0 after the .5, and so it becomes ".5". Ive found this is common in places that are used to the metric system...[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Converting handgun calibers from inches to millimetres is easy when you remember this little fact--.40 caliber in a gun is equivalent to 10 mm in real life (this is why I've heard the 10x25mm round should have been called the ".400 Magnum"). If you want the size of .50 caliber in millimeters, then it's simple to realise that .50 caliber is 25% larger in diameter than the .40 caliber round, so likewise the size in millimetres is 25% bigger, giving you the approximate size of 12.5mm to finish.

In general, dividing a caliber in inches by 0.4 will give you the approximate size in centimetres, while multiplying a bullet diameter in centimetres by 0.4 will give you the approximate caliber in inches. I'm neither a math nor gun whiz, but a little simple algebra and gun knowledge helped me figure this out. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok.... I say that its common in countries with the metric system b/c I have a few gun books out of the UK and all of them refer to .50 cal as .5 cal. Im thinking its simply because they see no need for there to be a 0 in there.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 01:39, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

:The way I figured it out was by comparing some known quantities. I knew that 6mm BBs were .24 caliber, so I was able to extrapolate 9mm = .36 and some others. Same trick with .308 = 7.62 I think(did I get that right?). [[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

What does that have to do with what I'm saying? I'm saying that it is common in the UK/ Metric system countries to lose the 0 in .50, and you are talking about converting caliber to mm... I know what mm equals in caliber, and many others do too. Im just saying that people who dont deal with bullets in caliber tend to not know why there is a hundredth place in a caliber designation when if it was a normal number it would only have a tenth place. Also your calculations are technically off... .50 BMG isnt actually .50 inches, its .510 and therefore is not 12.5mm but 12.7mm (.50 AE and .500 S&W are both .50, but are still 12.7mm). Same as a .38spcl being .357" in diameter and a .45 ACP being .452". You ARE technically correct with .308 being the same cartridge as 7.62mm BUT .308 (and therefore "7.62"mm) is 7.82mm in diameter.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 09:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==AMT Hardballer Longslide! Now without long slide!==
'Tis not a Longslide, just the standard Hardballer. Ok? You random unregistered user who plays too much Hitman? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

It doesn't look like an AMT Hardballer. It's grip safety, backstrap, and hammer are all that of an original M1911.

Goddammit, keep the discussion in the discussion page (Not to the guys above me): --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 19:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, it is nice to mention that there is a handgun with the frame like a Colt 1911, but chambered in .45 magnum. This handgun is the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]]

Actually, its a standard Colt M1911 with the Hardballer's laser sight.

The "Dart Gun" actually looks more like a Mendoza RM-200 or equivalent air rifle than anything; the only other rifle that would look like that would be some kind of .22 semi-automatic, and that doesn't really make sense given the load (special darts that probably would require a bolt-action or other manual operation).

[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]Someone[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]

I agree with the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]] Theory,only to say it would have to be the Mk. IV. Added on with the Hardballer sight. But,from how it looks,I'd have to agree with the M1911. I'd almost like to be an idiot and call it an Automag IV. Just saying.---[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump_Shotty_Justice]] 00:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Resident Evil 4

2010-07-11T00:04:42Z

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== Leon's Default Pistol ==
Man, I wish Capcom would name this thing. Always having to say "Leon's RE4 gun" gets annoying after so long...

Here I'll name it for you, "The gun that Capcom is to lazy to name"
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

Well,maybe it should have a combination of any of the names of the real guns that it looks like.

I mean,it shouldn't be that hard to figure it out...[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump Shotty Justice]]

The"USPTacticHAHFOOLEDYOU" ?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 04:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

How about the "Hecklasmithakochasigmauspwesson 9mm"
:Tack "9mm" onto the end of that, and we have our winner.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:49, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay,so I didn't realise how many friggin' weapons it resembled. It was just an idea.

We have a name for it now. The [http://projectumbrella.net/articles/ARMS-Jan-06-Vol-211 Silver Ghost].--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool.

The official name for Leon's 9mm is Silver Ghost.
:Thank you, Mr. Anon, for telling us all something we already knew. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 03:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
::HA HA HA, OH WOW. --[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to put this in. From day one I always thought the pistol looks like a mix of a USP, Ruger P95 and M9. Like if you just mixed and matched parts from one gun to the other, this is what you'd get. Actually, if you'd take a look at this: http://www.the-horror.com/index.php?id=features&s=re4demos&p=3 you'll find that there's some credence to my Ruger idea.

== Shotgun Shells ==

Anyone else notice that the green boxes of "Heavyfield" ammunition for the shotgun are labeled as slugs?

Yeah I noticed it too

== Is the Black Tail really the Springfield XD? ==

I ask this question because the pistol grip in the black tail is identical to the FNP-9 DA/SA series. This will make a lot of sense in the point that the punisher is based on the Five-Seven which is also from FN.

:Sorry, but Resident Evil doesn't have a contract with FN, which should be obvious from the fact that they renamed the guns. But let's compare. Here's the FNP-9:
[[Image:FNP-Pistol.jpg|thumb|450px|none|]]
Here's the Springfield:
[[Image:Hs-xd-3.jpg|thumb|450px|none]]
Here's the gun in-game:
[[Image:RE4 Blacktail.jpg|thumb|450px|none|The fact that it's striker-fired as opposed to having an external hammer should be the first giveaway.]]
-protoAuthor 01:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I understand this but the picture of the FNP-9 that your presenting is from the left side but if if you look at it from the right side as the picture of the black tail they look a like. Even a simple detail as the 3 vertical lines in the rail when the XD has six in total.

Thar's right; ignore the fact that the Blacktail uses a striker instead of a hammer. That obviously doesn't matter. And what the heck do you mean by "Vertical lines in the rail"? You can't even see the rail on the Blacktail because of the laser mount. Do you mean the grooves in the front of the trigger guard?

PS: This isn't the only place he's pushing this. See here [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category_talk:Weapons] --[[Special:Contributions/141.165.142.112|141.165.142.112]] 23:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

this is my leon´s gun try on paint. It was made from a s&w sigma, there is a part taken from an image from here[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_(RE4)]
[[Image:Leon_9mm.JPG]]

It looks OK, but Leon's handgun resembles a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] Expert more than a Sigma.

You forgot the wood grips.

Oh, and also, you can go here for images [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category:Weapons]. I'm an admin there, and you have my permission to use information, images, blah blah blah. Same permissions go for all other RE articles on IMFDB. The scans that depict Leon's Handgun and the anatomical breakdown in the text were done by myself[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_%28RE4%29]. I appreciate having the RE Wiki cited, but I don't care enough to protest if it isn't cited.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

*I did not know how to put them or had them. Remember that i used paint.-thebarry1394

A usp looks far away from leon´s handgun. I mean, Leon´s is a fictional gun. And some of the details on the slide are too different from each other. And here´s the usp Leon´s try on paint (without the custom grip -I don´t have them, and don´t know how to make them in paint-)

[[Image:Leon-USP_9mm.JPG|thumb|450px|none|here you have your usp modeled handgun]]

==Handcannon==
I made another RE gun with paint, this time the handcannon:
[[Image:RE4_handcannon.JPG]]
The underbarrell thing is suposed to be a laser.-Thebarry1394

Any chance you could do the same thing for the Broken Butterfly?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 00:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I´ll try..., but give me some time, the break open will be difficult- Thebarry1394

==Broken Butterfly==

[[Image:Broken_butterfly.JPG]]

If I missed anithing, tell me, because it was kinda slow the process..., not like anithing I had tried before!

or, a longerbarell version:
[[Image:Broken_butterfly-lb.JPG]]

not even close. Try Colt Navy grip, lower frame and recoil shield with a Schofield top-strap, hinge and barrel. That little flare on the back... not sure how to do that. I wanna say you'll use a Schofield cylinder, but I'm not 100%.

I made it with a saa pic i found here, nothing else. I looked at the broken butterfly pic in the main page, a schofield, and tried my best. I can´t mix pictures because in paint, i cant change lightning, and i dont have photoshop. But I`ll redo the main thing.
(I need a good pic of the in game one)

Nevermind what I said, it's an SAA/Schofield. I threw this together in about 10 minutes:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/residentevil/images/7/71/Broken_butterfly.jpg
I think the recoil shield may actually by a Schofield. So... it's still a work in progress.

cool, but i can see the saa reloading gate, can you fix that (I mean for helping you to make this beuty be even more perfect)

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe the recoil shield from the left side and then mirroring it. I can't recall whether or not the 1873 C&B Uberti produces has a recoil shield or loading gate.

Mirror the lefty. If not, you´ll get in serious trouble triying to fix it with another pic or photoshop. (I mean, if you have acces to the left side picture...)

==HD Screenshots==
Yo, I have the PC version of the game, which looks infinitely better than this. Anybody mind if I take some new shots? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

Please do. Not only are PC games easier to take screenies from (console games either require illegal methods or specialized hardware to record their video output), they can also be much higher resolution if you have the hardware to support it. There's just a few small problems with the PC version of RE4 which made me pass it up though . . .

1) The graphics were based off the PS2 port. That means lower-poly models, lower resolution textures, no dynamic lighting like in the Gamecube version, and fewer Ganados, thus giving you a harder time stringing together kill combos when playing the Mercenaries mode. They could have combined the Gamecube version's graphics along with the PS2's features (or even put in higher-resolution textures in place of the low-resolution originals for the console versions, like the PC ports of Halo 2 and Silent Hill 3), but for some reason they didn't (even though most PC hardware now is perfectly capable of supporting a game like this, even with enhanced textures).

2) No aiming with the mouse (really something to make you mad).

If Capcom/Ubisoft put out a higher-resolution texture patch it might make the screenshots better, but even if there isn't such a patch (and I know the powers that be here look down on anything other than the most well-known mods, especially minor texture mods), then your work will still be appreciated. It'd be very nice to have high-resolution screenshots without all the chromatic abberation/compression artifacts that are in the current revision of this article. Remember to save them in JPEG format so that they don't break 300 kb in filesize--the mods don't like bloated files. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 05:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

:Rodger Dodger, I'll do what I can. The in game stuff really doesn't look great on the PC, I'll admit. The inventory images are probably the reason to try it out. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Alright, I have the shots. What I could get anyway. My usual screencapture stuff had it's first ever misfire, for some reason it was only capable of about 1 image per 5 seconds while playing RE4. I tried to get some reloading images for the more interesting weapons, and of course I have inventory left/right for everything. Will put up soon. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Go get 'em, tiger! I'm looking forward to the new high-res screenshots.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:05, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay. Mostly done. Still need Ada's Shotgun, an image of the MP9, perhaps the silenced Ghost, and last a Gangster Outfit Chicago Typewriter. I have many save games with many pesetas, but never in quite the right places. Also: I'll make sure each weapon description has links. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Mmm, these screenshots are looking very impressive. I still think it's a bit stupid that Capcom still hasn't learned the value of good English writing for its games, not to mention checking for errors in spelling or bad "ammuniton" logic (like how the shotgun shells are labelled slugs in the ammo box's textures). Heh, at least the "keep out of reach of children is still there," not that there ARE any children to be found in Resident Evil games. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==Undo==
Reverting the Handcannon ammo caption, there ain't much reason to restate what is in the picture. Sorry M14Fanboy. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

:Meh, it's alright, Just though it was funny to point out. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

==Handcannon Ammo==
Has anyone noticed that the box says '''5 caliber''' on it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

It says ".5 Caliber", Most non gunnies dont know to put the 0 after the .5, and so it becomes ".5". Ive found this is common in places that are used to the metric system...[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Converting handgun calibers from inches to millimetres is easy when you remember this little fact--.40 caliber in a gun is equivalent to 10 mm in real life (this is why I've heard the 10x25mm round should have been called the ".400 Magnum"). If you want the size of .50 caliber in millimeters, then it's simple to realise that .50 caliber is 25% larger in diameter than the .40 caliber round, so likewise the size in millimetres is 25% bigger, giving you the approximate size of 12.5mm to finish.

In general, dividing a caliber in inches by 0.4 will give you the approximate size in centimetres, while multiplying a bullet diameter in centimetres by 0.4 will give you the approximate caliber in inches. I'm neither a math nor gun whiz, but a little simple algebra and gun knowledge helped me figure this out. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok.... I say that its common in countries with the metric system b/c I have a few gun books out of the UK and all of them refer to .50 cal as .5 cal. Im thinking its simply because they see no need for there to be a 0 in there.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 01:39, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

:The way I figured it out was by comparing some known quantities. I knew that 6mm BBs were .24 caliber, so I was able to extrapolate 9mm = .36 and some others. Same trick with .308 = 7.62 I think(did I get that right?). [[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

What does that have to do with what I'm saying? I'm saying that it is common in the UK/ Metric system countries to lose the 0 in .50, and you are talking about converting caliber to mm... I know what mm equals in caliber, and many others do too. Im just saying that people who dont deal with bullets in caliber tend to not know why there is a hundredth place in a caliber designation when if it was a normal number it would only have a tenth place. Also your calculations are technically off... .50 BMG isnt actually .50 inches, its .510 and therefore is not 12.5mm but 12.7mm (.50 AE and .500 S&W are both .50, but are still 12.7mm). Same as a .38spcl being .357" in diameter and a .45 ACP being .452". You ARE technically correct with .308 being the same cartridge as 7.62mm BUT .308 (and therefore "7.62"mm) is 7.82mm in diameter.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 09:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==AMT Hardballer Longslide! Now without long slide!==
'Tis not a Longslide, just the standard Hardballer. Ok? You random unregistered user who plays too much Hitman? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

It doesn't look like an AMT Hardballer. It's grip safety, backstrap, and hammer are all that of an original M1911.

Goddammit, keep the discussion in the discussion page (Not to the guys above me): --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 19:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, it is nice to mention that there is a handgun with the frame like a Colt 1911, but chambered in .45 magnum. This handgun is the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]]

Actually, its a standard Colt M1911 with the Hardballer's laser sight.

The "Dart Gun" actually looks more like a Mendoza RM-200 or equivalent air rifle than anything; the only other rifle that would look like that would be some kind of .22 semi-automatic, and that doesn't really make sense given the load (special darts that probably would require a bolt-action or other manual operation).

[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]Someone[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]

I agree with the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]] Theory,only to say it would have to be the Mk. IV. Added on with the Hardballer sight. But,from how it looks,I'd have to agree with the M1911. I'd almost like to be an idiot and call it an [[Automag IV]]. Just saying.---[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump_Shotty_Justice]] 00:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Resident Evil 4

2010-07-11T00:04:20Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* AMT Hardballer Longslide! Now without long slide! */

== Leon's Default Pistol ==
Man, I wish Capcom would name this thing. Always having to say "Leon's RE4 gun" gets annoying after so long...

Here I'll name it for you, "The gun that Capcom is to lazy to name"
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

Well,maybe it should have a combination of any of the names of the real guns that it looks like.

I mean,it shouldn't be that hard to figure it out...[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump Shotty Justice]]

The"USPTacticHAHFOOLEDYOU" ?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 04:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

How about the "Hecklasmithakochasigmauspwesson 9mm"
:Tack "9mm" onto the end of that, and we have our winner.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:49, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay,so I didn't realise how many friggin' weapons it resembled. It was just an idea.

We have a name for it now. The [http://projectumbrella.net/articles/ARMS-Jan-06-Vol-211 Silver Ghost].--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool.

The official name for Leon's 9mm is Silver Ghost.
:Thank you, Mr. Anon, for telling us all something we already knew. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 03:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
::HA HA HA, OH WOW. --[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to put this in. From day one I always thought the pistol looks like a mix of a USP, Ruger P95 and M9. Like if you just mixed and matched parts from one gun to the other, this is what you'd get. Actually, if you'd take a look at this: http://www.the-horror.com/index.php?id=features&s=re4demos&p=3 you'll find that there's some credence to my Ruger idea.

== Shotgun Shells ==

Anyone else notice that the green boxes of "Heavyfield" ammunition for the shotgun are labeled as slugs?

Yeah I noticed it too

== Is the Black Tail really the Springfield XD? ==

I ask this question because the pistol grip in the black tail is identical to the FNP-9 DA/SA series. This will make a lot of sense in the point that the punisher is based on the Five-Seven which is also from FN.

:Sorry, but Resident Evil doesn't have a contract with FN, which should be obvious from the fact that they renamed the guns. But let's compare. Here's the FNP-9:
[[Image:FNP-Pistol.jpg|thumb|450px|none|]]
Here's the Springfield:
[[Image:Hs-xd-3.jpg|thumb|450px|none]]
Here's the gun in-game:
[[Image:RE4 Blacktail.jpg|thumb|450px|none|The fact that it's striker-fired as opposed to having an external hammer should be the first giveaway.]]
-protoAuthor 01:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I understand this but the picture of the FNP-9 that your presenting is from the left side but if if you look at it from the right side as the picture of the black tail they look a like. Even a simple detail as the 3 vertical lines in the rail when the XD has six in total.

Thar's right; ignore the fact that the Blacktail uses a striker instead of a hammer. That obviously doesn't matter. And what the heck do you mean by "Vertical lines in the rail"? You can't even see the rail on the Blacktail because of the laser mount. Do you mean the grooves in the front of the trigger guard?

PS: This isn't the only place he's pushing this. See here [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category_talk:Weapons] --[[Special:Contributions/141.165.142.112|141.165.142.112]] 23:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

this is my leon´s gun try on paint. It was made from a s&w sigma, there is a part taken from an image from here[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_(RE4)]
[[Image:Leon_9mm.JPG]]

It looks OK, but Leon's handgun resembles a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] Expert more than a Sigma.

You forgot the wood grips.

Oh, and also, you can go here for images [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category:Weapons]. I'm an admin there, and you have my permission to use information, images, blah blah blah. Same permissions go for all other RE articles on IMFDB. The scans that depict Leon's Handgun and the anatomical breakdown in the text were done by myself[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_%28RE4%29]. I appreciate having the RE Wiki cited, but I don't care enough to protest if it isn't cited.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

*I did not know how to put them or had them. Remember that i used paint.-thebarry1394

A usp looks far away from leon´s handgun. I mean, Leon´s is a fictional gun. And some of the details on the slide are too different from each other. And here´s the usp Leon´s try on paint (without the custom grip -I don´t have them, and don´t know how to make them in paint-)

[[Image:Leon-USP_9mm.JPG|thumb|450px|none|here you have your usp modeled handgun]]

==Handcannon==
I made another RE gun with paint, this time the handcannon:
[[Image:RE4_handcannon.JPG]]
The underbarrell thing is suposed to be a laser.-Thebarry1394

Any chance you could do the same thing for the Broken Butterfly?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 00:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I´ll try..., but give me some time, the break open will be difficult- Thebarry1394

==Broken Butterfly==

[[Image:Broken_butterfly.JPG]]

If I missed anithing, tell me, because it was kinda slow the process..., not like anithing I had tried before!

or, a longerbarell version:
[[Image:Broken_butterfly-lb.JPG]]

not even close. Try Colt Navy grip, lower frame and recoil shield with a Schofield top-strap, hinge and barrel. That little flare on the back... not sure how to do that. I wanna say you'll use a Schofield cylinder, but I'm not 100%.

I made it with a saa pic i found here, nothing else. I looked at the broken butterfly pic in the main page, a schofield, and tried my best. I can´t mix pictures because in paint, i cant change lightning, and i dont have photoshop. But I`ll redo the main thing.
(I need a good pic of the in game one)

Nevermind what I said, it's an SAA/Schofield. I threw this together in about 10 minutes:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/residentevil/images/7/71/Broken_butterfly.jpg
I think the recoil shield may actually by a Schofield. So... it's still a work in progress.

cool, but i can see the saa reloading gate, can you fix that (I mean for helping you to make this beuty be even more perfect)

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe the recoil shield from the left side and then mirroring it. I can't recall whether or not the 1873 C&B Uberti produces has a recoil shield or loading gate.

Mirror the lefty. If not, you´ll get in serious trouble triying to fix it with another pic or photoshop. (I mean, if you have acces to the left side picture...)

==HD Screenshots==
Yo, I have the PC version of the game, which looks infinitely better than this. Anybody mind if I take some new shots? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

Please do. Not only are PC games easier to take screenies from (console games either require illegal methods or specialized hardware to record their video output), they can also be much higher resolution if you have the hardware to support it. There's just a few small problems with the PC version of RE4 which made me pass it up though . . .

1) The graphics were based off the PS2 port. That means lower-poly models, lower resolution textures, no dynamic lighting like in the Gamecube version, and fewer Ganados, thus giving you a harder time stringing together kill combos when playing the Mercenaries mode. They could have combined the Gamecube version's graphics along with the PS2's features (or even put in higher-resolution textures in place of the low-resolution originals for the console versions, like the PC ports of Halo 2 and Silent Hill 3), but for some reason they didn't (even though most PC hardware now is perfectly capable of supporting a game like this, even with enhanced textures).

2) No aiming with the mouse (really something to make you mad).

If Capcom/Ubisoft put out a higher-resolution texture patch it might make the screenshots better, but even if there isn't such a patch (and I know the powers that be here look down on anything other than the most well-known mods, especially minor texture mods), then your work will still be appreciated. It'd be very nice to have high-resolution screenshots without all the chromatic abberation/compression artifacts that are in the current revision of this article. Remember to save them in JPEG format so that they don't break 300 kb in filesize--the mods don't like bloated files. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 05:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

:Rodger Dodger, I'll do what I can. The in game stuff really doesn't look great on the PC, I'll admit. The inventory images are probably the reason to try it out. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Alright, I have the shots. What I could get anyway. My usual screencapture stuff had it's first ever misfire, for some reason it was only capable of about 1 image per 5 seconds while playing RE4. I tried to get some reloading images for the more interesting weapons, and of course I have inventory left/right for everything. Will put up soon. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Go get 'em, tiger! I'm looking forward to the new high-res screenshots.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:05, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay. Mostly done. Still need Ada's Shotgun, an image of the MP9, perhaps the silenced Ghost, and last a Gangster Outfit Chicago Typewriter. I have many save games with many pesetas, but never in quite the right places. Also: I'll make sure each weapon description has links. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Mmm, these screenshots are looking very impressive. I still think it's a bit stupid that Capcom still hasn't learned the value of good English writing for its games, not to mention checking for errors in spelling or bad "ammuniton" logic (like how the shotgun shells are labelled slugs in the ammo box's textures). Heh, at least the "keep out of reach of children is still there," not that there ARE any children to be found in Resident Evil games. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==Undo==
Reverting the Handcannon ammo caption, there ain't much reason to restate what is in the picture. Sorry M14Fanboy. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

:Meh, it's alright, Just though it was funny to point out. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

==Handcannon Ammo==
Has anyone noticed that the box says '''5 caliber''' on it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

It says ".5 Caliber", Most non gunnies dont know to put the 0 after the .5, and so it becomes ".5". Ive found this is common in places that are used to the metric system...[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Converting handgun calibers from inches to millimetres is easy when you remember this little fact--.40 caliber in a gun is equivalent to 10 mm in real life (this is why I've heard the 10x25mm round should have been called the ".400 Magnum"). If you want the size of .50 caliber in millimeters, then it's simple to realise that .50 caliber is 25% larger in diameter than the .40 caliber round, so likewise the size in millimetres is 25% bigger, giving you the approximate size of 12.5mm to finish.

In general, dividing a caliber in inches by 0.4 will give you the approximate size in centimetres, while multiplying a bullet diameter in centimetres by 0.4 will give you the approximate caliber in inches. I'm neither a math nor gun whiz, but a little simple algebra and gun knowledge helped me figure this out. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok.... I say that its common in countries with the metric system b/c I have a few gun books out of the UK and all of them refer to .50 cal as .5 cal. Im thinking its simply because they see no need for there to be a 0 in there.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 01:39, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

:The way I figured it out was by comparing some known quantities. I knew that 6mm BBs were .24 caliber, so I was able to extrapolate 9mm = .36 and some others. Same trick with .308 = 7.62 I think(did I get that right?). [[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

What does that have to do with what I'm saying? I'm saying that it is common in the UK/ Metric system countries to lose the 0 in .50, and you are talking about converting caliber to mm... I know what mm equals in caliber, and many others do too. Im just saying that people who dont deal with bullets in caliber tend to not know why there is a hundredth place in a caliber designation when if it was a normal number it would only have a tenth place. Also your calculations are technically off... .50 BMG isnt actually .50 inches, its .510 and therefore is not 12.5mm but 12.7mm (.50 AE and .500 S&W are both .50, but are still 12.7mm). Same as a .38spcl being .357" in diameter and a .45 ACP being .452". You ARE technically correct with .308 being the same cartridge as 7.62mm BUT .308 (and therefore "7.62"mm) is 7.82mm in diameter.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 09:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==AMT Hardballer Longslide! Now without long slide!==
'Tis not a Longslide, just the standard Hardballer. Ok? You random unregistered user who plays too much Hitman? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

It doesn't look like an AMT Hardballer. It's grip safety, backstrap, and hammer are all that of an original M1911.

Goddammit, keep the discussion in the discussion page (Not to the guys above me): --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 19:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, it is nice to mention that there is a handgun with the frame like a Colt 1911, but chambered in .45 magnum. This handgun is the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]]

Actually, its a standard Colt M1911 with the Hardballer's laser sight.

The "Dart Gun" actually looks more like a Mendoza RM-200 or equivalent air rifle than anything; the only other rifle that would look like that would be some kind of .22 semi-automatic, and that doesn't really make sense given the load (special darts that probably would require a bolt-action or other manual operation).

[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]Someone[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]

I agree with the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]] Theory,only to say it would have to be the Mk. IV. Added on with the Hardballer sight. But,from how it looks,I'd have to agree with the M1911. I'd almost like to be an idiot and call it an Automag IV. Just saying.---[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump_Shotty_Justice]] 00:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

User:Pump Shotty Justice

2010-07-10T23:13:19Z

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User:Pump Shotty Justice

2010-07-10T23:11:23Z

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Zombieland

2010-07-07T15:23:13Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg" */

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[[Image:ZombielandNewPoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Zombieland (2009) New Domestic Release Poster ''Note: The Photoshop artists who composited this poster apparently didn't realize what a Winchester 1892 Mare's leg was, so they erroneously made Tallahassee's lever action gun into a double barreled shotgun. It has the lever near the grip, but morphs into a double barreled side by side shotgun near the top.'']]
'''Zombieland''' is a horror/comedy about four survivors of a Zombie Apocalypse who are traveling west, looking for a place where there are no Zombies. The two girls [[Emma Stone|Wichita]], and [[Abigail Breslin|Little Rock]] are sisters and are going to the amusement park, Pacific Playland, which they believe is zombie free. [[Jesse Eisenberg|Columbus]] and [[Woody Harrelson|Tallahassee]] are not so sure. In the film, survivors usually don't share their real names for fear of getting too attached, so people are known by the city they are from. On the poster, the characters of Wichita and Little Rock are carrying a chainsaw and a baseball bat, however these weapons were only used in the film by Tallahassee before he ever met the girls: the chainsaw in flashbacks and the baseball bat in the supermarket when he takes on the fat zombies.

''The Following guns appeared in the film '''Zombieland''':''__TOC__ 

==Benelli M4 Super 90==
[[Image:Benelli m4 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Benelli M4 Super 90 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Zl1014.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''"Thank God for Rednecks! -This is a really big truck and these are really big guns."''']]
[[Image:ZL-Benelli.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) walks down a road to check out his previously stolen but now abandoned Cadillac Escalade, armed with a Benelli M4 Super 90 Tactical Shotgun - 12 gauge.]]

==Mossberg 500 Mariner==
Armed with twin pistol-gripped Mossberg 500 Mariner shotguns, Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) distracts the hoard of zombies in Pacific Playland while Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) attempts to save Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]) and Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]).

[[Image:Mossberg500AMarinerStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 590A Mariner (18.5" barrel) with the proprietary Marinecote™ Finish and Synthetic Stock - 12 gauge.]]

[[Image:ZombielandTallahassee.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) prepares to nut up or shut up.]]

==Mossberg 500==
Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) carries a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun|Mossberg 500 Shotgun]] with rear pistol grip, forward pistolgrip and side-saddle shell holder. In usual movie fashion, she fires more shots than the magazine tube of the gun can hold.
[[Image:Mossberg500CruiserwithForegrip.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with heat shield & foregrip - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:ZL-MossbergShotgunEmma.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) checks the power supply room of "Pacific Playland" with her Mossberg 500 shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:ZL-Mossberg.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|When the zombies overrun "Pacific Playland", Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]) and Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) runs towards the Vertical Drop ride to escape. Wichita fires her Mossberg 500 shotgun - 12 gauge. Her shotgun has a rear pistol grip and a forward tactical pistol grip and shell holder.]]
[[Image:ZombielandMossy500.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) with her custom Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]

==IGA Coach 12 gauge shotgun==
Despite having a choice of more suitable weapons, Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) insists on using and keeping an IGA Coach double barreled shotgun, despite it's very slow reloading time compared to the Submachine guns and pump shotguns carried by his friends.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Stoeger/IGA Coach imported side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:ZL-Shotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) carries an IGA Coach double barreled shotgun when he is forced to evade zombies in the amusement park by ducking into a Haunted Horror maze - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Zombieland 01.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) with his double barreled shotgun, Tallahassee has his Mare's leg in a holstler.]]
[[Image:ZL-ShotgunMontage.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|LEFT: Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) looks on with his IGA Coach double barreled shotgun whereas Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) carries her Mossberg 500 in one hand while comforting Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]) on the other. RIGHT:Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) glares at Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) for his unsafe gun handling after they kill two obese redneck zombies in a supermarket.]]
[[Image:ZL-ProdStill02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) struggles to get into a car with his double barreled shotgun and thus proves the wisdom of Rule #1: Cardio (always be in shape when running to avoid zombies)]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]]==
[[Image:MP7 40rdmag.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 4.6x30mm with Zeiss Z-Point red dot sight and 40-round magazine]]
[[Image:ZL-MP7.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) celebrates finding a Yellow H2 Hummer and bags of guns by firing his new H&K MP7 with extended magazine into the air - 4.6x30mm]]
[[Image:ZL-MP7 02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) fires an H&K MP7A1 from his Denali at the amusement park taking out dozens of zombies - 4.6x30mm]]

==Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg"==
In his endless quest to find a Hostess Twinkie and kill Zombies, Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) carries an 6 shot Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg" with a standard lever, not the enlarged loop of other famous versions of the gun '' (such as the one from [[Wanted: Dead or Alive ]])'' - .44-40.
[[Image:Model1892MaresLeg.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|"Mare's Leg" with standard lever loop and rounded barrel - .44-40. This is the configuration seen in the movie however this Mare's leg has a case hardened receiver and the one in the film has a blued steel receiver.]]
[[Image:ZL-Mareleg02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) enters "B.M"'s mansion with his Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg" - .44-40.]]
[[Image:ZL-Mareleg01.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A montage of Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) and his Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg" as he waits for a Zombie to attack at an Indian Reservation gift shop.]]
[[Image:ZL.JPG|600px|thumb|none|Tallahassee with his gun.]]
[[Image:ZL2.JPG|600px|thumb|none|]]
[[Image:ZL4.JPG|600px|thumb|none|Tallahassee-'''"What do you think? Zombie Kill of the Week?"''']]

==Stainless Steel M1911A1==
* Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) fires akimbo with two pistols in the shootout at the amusement park. The one in his right hand is either a Stainless or Satin Nickel M1911A1 Variant - 45 acp.

[[Image:NickelM1911A1.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Commercial Satin Nickel M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP. Manufactured on license by Remington Rand.]]
[[Image:ZL-TwinGuns01.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) gets ready to slam down his pistols to reload them during his apocalyptic battle with the zombies at the Amusement Park.]]
[[Image:ZL-Mags.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He has pre set the magazines on the shelf so that he can slam down the pistols, note the high caps in foreground and the single stack magazines in the background.]]

==Satin Nickel SIG-Sauer P228==
* Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) left hand gun during the fight is a Satin Nickel SIG-Sauer P228 - 9mm. However in a continuity break, at the end of the gunfight, he has TWO nickel M1911A1 pistols.
[[Image:Sig-Sauer-P228.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P228 - 9x19mm. The one in the film is Nickel plated]]
[[Image:ZL-PistolSlamDown.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) slams down his handguns on the magazines to reload them.]]
[[Image:ZL-TWinguns.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) pops up guns a blazing with an M1911A1 in one hand and a Nickel SIG-Sauer P228 in the other hand.]]

==Norinco Type 84==
A [[Norinco Type 84]] is used by a survivor to fight zombies with little success.
[[Image:Type84HybridRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 84 -5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Zltype56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Survivor in the opening credits defends himself.]]

==Glock 17?==
During Columbus's explanation of '''Rule #2, "The Double Tap"''', a [[Glock]] pistol (quite possibly a [[Glock 17]] due to size) is used by a businesswoman to shoot a zombie on a chaotic Atlanta street.
[[Image:Zlglock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Businesswoman shoots a zombified Meter Attendant with her Glock.]]
[[Image:Zlglock2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Winchester 1890 Pump action rifle==
Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]) carries a small/medium caliber pump action rifle with exposed hammer (most likely a [[Winchester Model 1890|Winchester 1890 Pump action rifle]]). She uses it to shoot Zombies at the amusement park.
[[Image:Win1890.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1890 - .22 Short Rimfire.]]

==Walther PPK==
Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) points a Walther PPK at Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) during an early standoff when he aims his Mare's leg at Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]).

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Zombieland

2010-07-07T14:59:45Z

Pump Shotty Justice: /* Winchester 1890 Pump action rifle */

{{incompletepage}}
[[Image:ZombielandNewPoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Zombieland (2009) New Domestic Release Poster ''Note: The Photoshop artists who composited this poster apparently didn't realize what a Winchester 1892 Mare's leg was, so they erroneously made Tallahassee's lever action gun into a double barreled shotgun. It has the lever near the grip, but morphs into a double barreled side by side shotgun near the top.'']]
'''Zombieland''' is a horror/comedy about four survivors of a Zombie Apocalypse who are traveling west, looking for a place where there are no Zombies. The two girls [[Emma Stone|Wichita]], and [[Abigail Breslin|Little Rock]] are sisters and are going to the amusement park, Pacific Playland, which they believe is zombie free. [[Jesse Eisenberg|Columbus]] and [[Woody Harrelson|Tallahassee]] are not so sure. In the film, survivors usually don't share their real names for fear of getting too attached, so people are known by the city they are from. On the poster, the characters of Wichita and Little Rock are carrying a chainsaw and a baseball bat, however these weapons were only used in the film by Tallahassee before he ever met the girls: the chainsaw in flashbacks and the baseball bat in the supermarket when he takes on the fat zombies.

''The Following guns appeared in the film '''Zombieland''':''__TOC__ 

==Benelli M4 Super 90==
[[Image:Benelli m4 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Benelli M4 Super 90 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Zl1014.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''"Thank God for Rednecks! -This is a really big truck and these are really big guns."''']]
[[Image:ZL-Benelli.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) walks down a road to check out his previously stolen but now abandoned Cadillac Escalade, armed with a Benelli M4 Super 90 Tactical Shotgun - 12 gauge.]]

==Mossberg 500 Mariner==
Armed with twin pistol-gripped Mossberg 500 Mariner shotguns, Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) distracts the hoard of zombies in Pacific Playland while Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) attempts to save Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]) and Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]).

[[Image:Mossberg500AMarinerStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 590A Mariner (18.5" barrel) with the proprietary Marinecote™ Finish and Synthetic Stock - 12 gauge.]]

[[Image:ZombielandTallahassee.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) prepares to nut up or shut up.]]

==Mossberg 500==
Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) carries a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun|Mossberg 500 Shotgun]] with rear pistol grip, forward pistolgrip and side-saddle shell holder. In usual movie fashion, she fires more shots than the magazine tube of the gun can hold.
[[Image:Mossberg500CruiserwithForegrip.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with heat shield & foregrip - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:ZL-MossbergShotgunEmma.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) checks the power supply room of "Pacific Playland" with her Mossberg 500 shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:ZL-Mossberg.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|When the zombies overrun "Pacific Playland", Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]) and Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) runs towards the Vertical Drop ride to escape. Wichita fires her Mossberg 500 shotgun - 12 gauge. Her shotgun has a rear pistol grip and a forward tactical pistol grip and shell holder.]]
[[Image:ZombielandMossy500.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) with her custom Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]

==IGA Coach 12 gauge shotgun==
Despite having a choice of more suitable weapons, Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) insists on using and keeping an IGA Coach double barreled shotgun, despite it's very slow reloading time compared to the Submachine guns and pump shotguns carried by his friends.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Stoeger/IGA Coach imported side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:ZL-Shotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) carries an IGA Coach double barreled shotgun when he is forced to evade zombies in the amusement park by ducking into a Haunted Horror maze - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Zombieland 01.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) with his double barreled shotgun, Tallahassee has his Mare's leg in a holstler.]]
[[Image:ZL-ShotgunMontage.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|LEFT: Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) looks on with his IGA Coach double barreled shotgun whereas Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) carries her Mossberg 500 in one hand while comforting Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]) on the other. RIGHT:Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) glares at Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) for his unsafe gun handling after they kill two obese redneck zombies in a supermarket.]]
[[Image:ZL-ProdStill02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Columbus ([[Jesse Eisenberg]]) struggles to get into a car with his double barreled shotgun and thus proves the wisdom of Rule #1: Cardio (always be in shape when running to avoid zombies)]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]]==
[[Image:MP7 40rdmag.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 4.6x30mm with Zeiss Z-Point red dot sight and 40-round magazine]]
[[Image:ZL-MP7.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) celebrates finding a Yellow H2 Hummer and bags of guns by firing his new H&K MP7 with extended magazine into the air - 4.6x30mm]]
[[Image:ZL-MP7 02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) fires an H&K MP7A1 from his Denali at the amusement park taking out dozens of zombies - 4.6x30mm]]

==Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg"==
In his endless quest to find a Hostess Twinkie and kill Zombies, Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) carries an 6 shot Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg" with a standard lever, not the enlarged loop of other famous versions of the gun '' (such as the one from [[Wanted: Dead or Alive ]])'' - .44-40.
[[Image:Model1892MaresLeg.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|"Mare's Leg" with standard lever loop and rounded barrel - .44-40. This is the configuration seen in the movie however this Mare's leg has a case hardened receiver and the one in the film has a blued steel receiver.]]
[[Image:ZL-Mareleg02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) enters "B.M"'s mansion with his Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg" - .44-40.]]
[[Image:ZL-Mareleg01.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A montage of Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) and his Winchester 1892 "Mare's Leg" as he waits for a Zombie to attack at an Indian Reservation gift shop.]]
[[Image:ZL.JPG|600px|thumb|none|Tallahassee with his gun.]]
[[Image:ZL2.JPG|600px|thumb|none|]]
[[Image:ZL4.JPG|600px|thumb|none|]]

==Stainless Steel M1911A1==
* Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) fires akimbo with two pistols in the shootout at the amusement park. The one in his right hand is either a Stainless or Satin Nickel M1911A1 Variant - 45 acp.

[[Image:NickelM1911A1.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Commercial Satin Nickel M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP. Manufactured on license by Remington Rand.]]
[[Image:ZL-TwinGuns01.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) gets ready to slam down his pistols to reload them during his apocalyptic battle with the zombies at the Amusement Park.]]
[[Image:ZL-Mags.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He has pre set the magazines on the shelf so that he can slam down the pistols, note the high caps in foreground and the single stack magazines in the background.]]

==Satin Nickel SIG-Sauer P228==
* Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) left hand gun during the fight is a Satin Nickel SIG-Sauer P228 - 9mm. However in a continuity break, at the end of the gunfight, he has TWO nickel M1911A1 pistols.
[[Image:Sig-Sauer-P228.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P228 - 9x19mm. The one in the film is Nickel plated]]
[[Image:ZL-PistolSlamDown.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) slams down his handguns on the magazines to reload them.]]
[[Image:ZL-TWinguns.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) pops up guns a blazing with an M1911A1 in one hand and a Nickel SIG-Sauer P228 in the other hand.]]

==Norinco Type 84==
A [[Norinco Type 84]] is used by a survivor to fight zombies with little success.
[[Image:Type84HybridRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 84 -5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Zltype56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Survivor in the opening credits defends himself.]]

==Glock 17?==
During Columbus's explanation of '''Rule #2, "The Double Tap"''', a [[Glock]] pistol (quite possibly a [[Glock 17]] due to size) is used by a businesswoman to shoot a zombie on a chaotic Atlanta street.
[[Image:Zlglock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Businesswoman shoots a zombified Meter Attendant with her Glock.]]
[[Image:Zlglock2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Winchester 1890 Pump action rifle==
Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]) carries a small/medium caliber pump action rifle with exposed hammer (most likely a [[Winchester Model 1890|Winchester 1890 Pump action rifle]]). She uses it to shoot Zombies at the amusement park.
[[Image:Win1890.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1890 - .22 Short Rimfire.]]

==Walther PPK==
Wichita ([[Emma Stone]]) points a Walther PPK at Tallahassee ([[Woody Harrelson]]) during an early standoff when he aims his Mare's leg at Little Rock ([[Abigail Breslin]]).

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Talk:Zombieland

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: This movie looks promising-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 00:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)

-woody's gun-
Is likely a puma model 92 "bounty hunter" with a standard level installed. It is probably also in 45LC. This is backed up by 44-40 being a semi bottlenecked round, the ones in the movie all looked straight walled.
::Good call, but unfortunately incorrect. Though very similar, the Puma has a longer barrel and longer stock. Tallahasse's gun is definitely a Mare's leg. I've carefully compared images of those guns and movie stills and it is not the Puma M-92 Bounty Hunter. But definitely a reasonable guess. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

==Poster error==
:I think a double barreled lever gun would be pretty cool-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:46, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:: It's only cool if it works. So how would a lever action double barreled shotgun work? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:37, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:The same way Bob Barker hasn't turned into dust: magic-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

google remington 1740 for a double barrel pump action.

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The rounds form the MP7 are meant for penetration of body armor. wouldn't that be ineffectual against zombies?

:It would be like shooting a person in the head with an AP round-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:26, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

:: I figure that an MP7A1 might be advantageous in a situation such as a zombie outbreak. From what I can remember, the 4.6mm rounds tumble when entering the body, thus increasing the trauma delivered to tissue. Additionally, figure that the recoil of the MP7A1 would be soft compared to a number of other automatic weapons, which would enable more rapid yet aimed semi-automatic fire. the weight of the weapon in conjunction with the balance of the weapon allow it to be used in one hand, albeit with drastically reduced accuracy, but the option is there. The high-capacity magazine is light enough that you could carry a number of them. from what I gather, the weapon is very reliable, and as it is quite likely that production facilities would be abandoned, replacement parts would be limited, thus reliability would be a valued commodity. The weapon has enough accuracy and range to hit a pretty small target at about 200 meters. The optics could be replaced depending on the situation at hand, due to the rail on the weapon. the only downsides that i could think of would be that ammunition and magazines would be limited, given that the round is unique for the weapon at this time. [[User:W190009637|W190009637]]

:::good point

::::incidentally, i am in the process of making an informal zombie survival guide that i have been working on for over a year now. it is at 20 pages, and still growing, with almost 200 individual items that i would like to obtain in the wasteland should i somehow survive. [[User:W190009637|W190009637]]

:::::Or you could just use a .22 and buy Max Brook's "The Zombie Survival Guide"-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:06, 3 October 2009
::::::Or buy yourself a gun that doesn't require you to stand directly in front of a zombie, say a 9mm or something, and discount the Zombie Survival Guide's firearm section entirely (Which contradicts itself on multiple occasions). - Anonymous
:::::::Hmm, depends on what kind of zombies you're dealing with. Since traditional zombies can only be killed by destruction of the brain, "stopping power" is rather irrelevant (all that's required is the necessary force to penetrate the skull and destroy the brain). The 'zombies' in Zombieland, on the other hand, are probably still alive, they're just mad cannibals because of the 'mutated mad cow disease' they're said to be infected with. If that's the case, they can probably be killed by the same wounds that would be fatal to normal humans (indeed, this seems to be the case) and so stopping power is still relevant.

:::::::Also, while Max Brooks' novels are entertaining (I really liked ''World War Z'') I lost all respect for the advice on firearms in the ZSG when I read the passage that stated that the M16 is the worst assault rifle and the AK47 is the best. Okay, he didn't state that viewpoint as fact, but he went the weasel words route and wrote "many consider" that to be the case, which is almost as bad in my opinion, since anyone who is of that opinion is clearly ignorant. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 14:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Max Brooks knows jack shit about firearms and Military Equipment. Enough said.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Max Brooks knows jack shit about anything, really. You want a good zombie killing combo? USE WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. Unless you have something retarded like a 20MM rifle.--[[User:Asmkillr323|Asmkillr323]] 20:06, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

i have the max brooks book and he makes some serious errors in firearms. he says a good rifle is an M1 carbine. yeah maybe... if it were 1944. i would get an mp5, glock and SA80 mainly becausein britain they are standard firearms for police and armed forces
::well, i have a spanish version of the book, and talks about pistols and revolvers like if they were the same, and for example a revolver can´t jam. Many revolvers are made for hunting, like the s&w 460 and 500 or a revolver in .454 casull. I mean, you can use a good pistol/revolver as a carabine. And finally i found hilarious too his way of describe the m1. He talks like if it were The Colt from supernatural!

==Continuity error==
I don't think that the two 1911s are a continuty error I think he just ran out of 9MM and had another back up pistol, Because it looked like he had more 1911 Magazines than Sig Sauer mags.
::And you're basing this on what? The film never showed him with three guns. They only established him with two. If he did pull out a third handgun, it was not shown in the film. So that is purely a guess based on seeing more M1911 magazines than SIG ones, which he would need to have since the M1911 mags were single stack and the SIGs were double stack. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:30, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Good point but you have to remember he has to fire more 9mm rounds to do the job of a .45acp jk.

I think that the Sig is a full sized p226

==New images==
Are any of these bootlegs? I expect an answer from those members who uploaded them. The DVD is not out yet so anything NOT from the trailer. If I don't get a confirmation that they are not from bootleg, and this includes bit torrent downloads, then they will be Deleted. Only caps from the authorized DVD are allowed. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:10, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
:I didn't upload them, but I know for a fact that the official DVD has not been released yet. It comes out 2/2/10 here in the US. That Norinco pick looks like it was played off a DVDrip/Torrent, and it needs to get the fuck outta here.--[[User:Asmkillr323|Asmkillr323]] 20:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you. It's gone. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

== Mossberg 500 or Maverick 88 shotgun? ==
Just a thought, is it possible that this could be a Maverick 88 rather than a Mossberg 500?
They are both essentially the same weapons except the Mossberg has a top mounted safety on top of the receiver and the Maverick 88 has one mounted on the trigger guard. Taking a look at the 3rd picture, I'm not seeing a receiver mounted safety, also both of the guns are manufactured by the same company and use the same accessories. (Just a thought)

==Whichita?==
What is the little rifle used by Little Rock? -- Anonymous

It looks like a Winchester Model 1890 22 caliber pump action rifle, but it also looks new so it might be a Taurus Thunderbolt rifle. Which is a larger caliber version of the 1890. It was designed by John Browning. Here is a link to the Taurus version. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

http://www.taurususa.com/Rifles.cfm?toggle=tf

==Talahasse's armoury==

In the last showdown talahasse has somethig sheathed between the pair of shotguns on his back. ANYONE KNOW WHAT IT IS, COULD JUST BE A KNIFE OR MACHETE? Woops lent on caps there, sorry - Captain Snikt

Yes it's a machete. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the handle of the knife he was playing with when Columbus was on the crapper

==Non-Movie Related==
Why does Tallahassee spray paint a 3 on every car he recieves? anyone know? im curious. i love this movie btw....Zulu Two Six

Some say it is the age of his Son, but in actual fact he does it in homage to Nas car racer Dale Earnhart as it his number - Captain snikt

== little rock and whichita ==

has anyone else notice that these two only recieve their weapons after they join forces, as before they had to steal the double barrel and the mare's leg?
and also we never actually see whichita fire more than eight rounds at once, but we also never see her reload. so this movie could be more accurate than many make it out to be. anon

== Cover ==

Little Rock is carrying a shovel. Not a baseball bat. That is all.
--[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump_Shotty_Justice]] 23:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Tomb Raider: Legend

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'''The following guns were used in the game [[Tomb Raider: Legend]]'':'''

==Heckler & Koch USP Match==
Lara Croft's signature pistols are [[Heckler & Koch USP]] .45 Matches, notable for their stylish barrel weights which allow for quicker follow up shots by counteracting muzzle climb. She keeps the pair of USPs prominently holstered on her thighs. They hold 12 shots.

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==

The MP5 returns from TR 3 and AOD, however is not featured with either a scope or supressor as before.

==Heckler & Koch M4/HK416 ==

While The assault rifle used by lara appears to be an M4 due to the rounded barrel, the cocking mechanism is situated next to the breach on the left hand side of the gun, as the M4 is cocked on the top rear of the gun, this would suggest that the weapon is not an M4 but rather an HK416- a similar but superior modern version of the M4.

The HK416 has the same top-mounted T-bar cocking handle as the M4. [http://world.guns.ru/assault/hk416-1.jpg] [http://www.navytimes.com/xml/news/2007/02/atCarbine070219forafmcnt/070221HK416_story3.JPG] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

==Mossberg 590==
this is not the remington because the remington has a longer barrel and this has a pistol grip and flashlight on the cocking mechanism

==RG-6 40mm Grenade Launcher==

== Wall mounted drone gun ==

== .50 Cal Heavy machine gun ==

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Full Metal Panic!

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Red Dead Redemption

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[[Image:RDRboxart.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Red Dead Redemption (2010)]]

'''The following weapons appear in the video game ''Red Dead Redemption'':'''

==Handguns==

===[[Single Action Army]]===
In-game, it appears to take it's name and likeness from an 1873
[http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_cattleman_set_lg.jpg Uberti Cattleman Replica.]This is the first handgun you start with and it's good enough to last you through the first third of the game. The game devs pretty much got this gun right except John Marston manages to fire the pistol without pulling back on the hammer. It's considerable ingame but in cinematics it sticks out like a sore thumb. It uses Revolver Ammunition.

[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt SAA "Artillery" model in .45 Long Colt.]]
[[Image:Colt Peacemaker RDR 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ready to fire.]]
[[Image:Colt SAA Cattleman.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Mini-map and in-game icon.]]

===[[Volcanic_Repeater|Volcanic Pistol]]===

Called the "Volcanic Pistol" in game. It is a pretty average gun, it basically seems like a Cattleman's Revolver but with 8 shots. It is first available at the gunsmith in Armadillo. Really nothing special. The gun is almost worth skipping over since it runs off Pistol Ammunition, which at the beginning of the game is both rare and expensive. It's fire rate is also a bit slower than the Cattleman.

[[Image:Volcanic .jpg |thumb|none|600px|Volcanic Pistol - .31 or .41 caliber.]]
[[Image:Volcanic RDR 2.JPG|thumb|none|600px|600px|OVERALL RATING:4.]]
[[Image:Volcanic RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Volcanic RDR 3.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Smith_%26_Wesson_Schofield|Smith & Wesson No. 3 Revolver]]===

Called the "Schofield Revolver" ingame this is given to you when you first get to Mexico. Has faster reloading than the Cattleman Revolver (Peacemaker) but has pretty much the same stopping power. It uses Revolver Ammunition.

[[Image:Schofield.jpg|thumb|none|600px|.45 Schofield with worn nickel finish.]]
[[Image:N0. 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston admires his revolver.]]

===[[Borchardt C-93]]===
Called 'Semi-Automatic Pistol' In-game. This is the first "new age" handgun that you come across in the game. It looks god awful sticking out of the holster but it is a good firearm. It holds seven shots and can be first purchased at the gunsmith in Escalera once you get to Mexico. A free one can be obtained if the player clears out the Fort Mercer bandit hideout after the mission 'We'll Be Together In Paradise' Uses Pistol Ammunition.

[[Image:borchardtc93.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Borchardt C-93 - 7.65x25mm Borchardt.]]
[[Image:Reddeadborch.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Borchardt Pistol is shown circled in red]]
[[Image:Reddeadborchardt2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In game character holding and aiming a Borchardt Pistol]]

===[[Colt New Army revolver]]===
It is named the 'Double Action Revolver' In-game. It is pretty powerful which must make it a .45 of some sort and it is the fastest firing revolver in the game. It also reloads a little faster than the Schofield and LeMat. It becomes available sometime during the Mexican missions and uses Revolver Ammunition. What real life gun it is exactly is still up for debate.

[[Image:Hc-9289.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Colt New Service Colt 1892 RDR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Nsr.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Reddeadnewarmy2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Reddeadnewarmy3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|close up]]

[[Image:m1892revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt M1892, Revolver .38 Long Colt]]

it could also be a model 1909 revolver, created to down the heroin pumped Philippinos that were killing our soldiers because the .38 new service couldn't stop them in their tracks

===[[LeMat Revolver]]===

Called the "LeMat Revolver" ingame. It is sold at the gunsmith's shop in Escalera but for some reason is not available for purchase until after the Mexican missions. It holds 9 shots but the under barrel shotgun function is not usable. Unlike what the RDR wiki said before the actual game released the reloading is actually fast because it's incorrectly depicted as a break action like the Schofield. This was obviously an idea lifted from the old TV western Johnny Ringo. http://www.johnnyringo.net/Pictures/LeMatopen91CU.jpg It uses Revolver Ammunition. It is one of the rare weapons.
[[Image:Lemat.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LeMat 1861 current reproduction - .36 or .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:LeMat RDR 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|John is right eye dominant.]]
[[Image:LeMat revolver RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|In-game icon.]]

===[[Mauser C96]]===

The machine pistol of the game, with that it is somewhat anarchistic since the first full auto Mauser was not around in 1911. Called the Mauser Pistol in game, it holds 15 shots and is first available at the gunsmith in Blackwater. It uses Pistol Ammunition. It is one of the rare (or just really expensive) weapons. The fire-rate is multiplayer is much lower than in singleplayer, most likely for balance reasons.
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pre-War 7.63x25mm Mauser C96 "Broomhandle".]]
[[Image:Savvy merchant caption.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston urges a prisoner onward.]]
[[Image:RedDeadRedemption_Mauser1.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Bargain.]]
[[Image:Red-dead-redemption-xbox-360-139.jpg|thumb|none|600px|shopping !]]

===[[Colt Model 1903/1908]]===
Called 'High Powered Pistol' in-game. An interesting weapon, due to it being the most powerful handgun in the game you would think Rockstar would have just made it the Colt M1911 (maybe they wanted to be original?) and had done with it. It is certainly modeled off of the Colt 1903/08 (no argument there) but it acts like a Colt 1911. It holds 8 shots and is earned once you first get to Blackwater. Uses Pistol Ammunition.

[[Image:Colt Model 1903 Ni.jpg|600px|thumb|none|600px|Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless Pistol Nickel - .32 ACP.]]
[[Image:!908 RDR.JPG|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Untitled3.JPG|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Redead1903-2.png‎|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Redead1903-5.png‎|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Red-dead-redemption-20100222074908092.jpg|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]

since the game takes place in 1911, it wouldn't have made since to make it a 1911 .45 since the 1911 was so new it didn't see wide spread appearances till a few years later

==Rifles==
===[[Spencer_1860_Carbine|Spencer Model 1860 Carbine]]===

Called the "Repeating Carbine" ingame. This is the first rifle we get in the game and is the weakest. The weapon has a somewhat slow rate of fire compared to later repeaters. It holds 7 shots and uses Repeater Ammunition.

Despite the fact that the real Spencer is loaded from a tube magazine in the butt-stock, the game depicts the rifle as a seven-round repeating breech-loader. Someone didn't do their homework.

[[Image:Spencer 1860 Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Spencer 1860 Carbine - .56-56 RF.]]
[[Image:Spencer_carbine_RDR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|John clutches his Spencer while glancing out from cover at a firing enemy.]]

===[[Winchester Model 1892|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine]]===

Called the "Winchester Repeater" ingame. This is the second rifle that the player gets, it can either be purchased from the gunsmith in Armadillo or received during an early mission soon after. Holds 10 shots and is a very reliable long arm for a good portion of the game. It uses Repeater Ammunition.

[[Image:WinchesterModel1892.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine - .32WCF/.38-40/.44-40/.25-20.]]
[[Image:Winchester RDR.JPG|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:957922 02102010 screen004.jpg|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]

looks alittle more like an 1894 winchester to me due to the size of the reciever

===[[Trapdoor_Springfield_Rifle|1873 Trapdoor Springfield Cavalry Carbine]]===

Called the "Springfield Rifle" ingame. This can be purchased from the gunsmith in Thieves' Landing and is a great hunting gun.The only real flaw is that expensive Rifle Ammunition is largly unavailable on enemies until late in the Mexican chapter. It unrealistically holds 4 shots instead of one and it appears that John Marston works the gun like a bolt action between shots (he flips the trapdoor up closes it then the hammer gets cocked with no animation). It uses Rifle Ammunition.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorCarbine.jpg|600px|thumb|none|600px|Replica Springfield Model 1873 Cavalry Carbine "Trapdoor Springfield" built by Uberti Arms - .45-70.]]
[[Image:1873.JPG|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Krag-Jørgensen|Krag-Jørgensen Rifle]]===

Called the "Bolt Action Rifle" in game. This weapon has a fast reload rate thanks to the stripper clips (whitch is impossible in real life) and is also pretty powerful. The firing speed is about the same as the Henry Repeater but the range is slightly improved. It can first be purchased at the gunsmith in Escalera. It holds 5 shots and uses Rifle Ammunition.

[[Image:ScreenHunter_01Feb272000.gif|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Redeadrifle1.jpg‎ |600px|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Henry_1860|1860 Henry Rifle]]===

Called the "Henry Repeater" ingame. This is the third repeating rifle that the player gets, it is first available in Mexico while doing a side quest, which leads into a gang hideout side mission. It holds 12 shots and has a faster firing and reload speed than the Winchester Repeater, though the stopping power is equal. Uses Repeater Ammunition. like the Spencer this rifle is also incorrectly depicted as being reloaded from the receiver, in reality you you load the cartridges from the front end of the magazine tube

[[Image:Henry.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Henry 1860 - .44 RF.]]
[[Image:Henry Rifle RDR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|John leans out of a stagecoach and takes aim with his Henry.]]
[[Image:redgoldhenry.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In-Game Character aiming a Gold Henry Rifle]]

===[[Remington_Rolling_Block|Remington Rolling Block Sporting Rifle]]===

Fitted with a "Long Malcolm" scope it is called the "Rolling Block Rifle" ingame. The player picks it up during a job for the Mexican military and is the first sniper rifle the player gets. It's single shot and uses Sniper Rifle Ammunition.

[[Image:Remingtonrollingblock.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington Rolling Block Militarized - .45 caliber]]
[[Image:Long malcolm.JPG|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:reddeadlongmalcom1.jpg |thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Evans Repeating Rifle]]===
Classified as a rare weapon according to Rockstar's website. It is called the "Evan's Reapeater" ingame. It is first available for purchase at the gunsmith in Blackwater and holds 22 shots rather than the real life 34 (but that is understandable). It has practically the same power as the Winchester and Henry but with just double the capacity and a somewhat faster reload speed. It uses Repeater Ammunition.

[[Image:EvansA.jpg|600px|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Redeadevans1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Evans Repeater 2 RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:evansrepeater2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Carcano_Rifle_Series|Carcano Rifle]]===

Called the "Carcano Rifle" in-game. It is first available for purchase from the gunsmith in Blackwater. It is basically a combination of the Rolling Block Rifle and Bolt Action Rifle. It holds five shots and uses Sniper Rifle Ammunition.

[[Image:CarcanoM91Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Carcano M91 Rifle - 6.5mm.]]
[[Image:32.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
interestingly the rifle as depicted in game has a straight bolt handle, which would seem to make it unable to cycle with the scope attached, also the use of stripper clips would, in reality, not be able to be used
[[Image:Carcano rifle.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Redeadcarcano12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:reddeadscope.jpg|thumb|none|600px|View through the Scope of The Carcano Rifle]]
an anarchistic feature of the Carcano's scope is it has a duplex style reticle, most scopes produced in the day were wire cross hairs, in other words the reticle should have looked much like the Remington Rolling blocks scope reticle

===[[Sharps#Sharps_1874_Long_Range|Sharps 1874 Long Range]]===

Called the 'Buffalo Rifle' in-game. It is the most powerful rifle in the game (hence the name) and can be purchased after getting Rank 5 in the Master Hunter challenges. The weapon reloads pretty fast (like John Quigley fast) and only fires one shot at a time. When used from cover there is an annoying glitch where John will reload while exposed to gunfire rather than loading another shot while in cover. It uses Rifle Ammunition.

[[Image:UbertiSharps1874longrange.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sharps 1874 Long Range rifle w/ 34" barrel, Vernier peep sight, and Lyman Beach front sight - .45-70.]]
[[Image:Sharps_1874_RDR_2.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Shotguns==

===[[12_Gauge_Double_Barreled_Shotgun|Side-by-Side Shotgun Model 1878]]===
[[Image:Colt1878.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt Model 1878 reproduction - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:42.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Untitled2.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[12_Gauge_Double_Barreled_Shotgun#Short_barreled_Side_by_Side_Shotgun_.28Sawed_Off.29|Sawed Off Shotgun]]===
[[Image:SBS-Shotgun_ManOnFire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Sawn Off RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Sawn-Off_RDR.png|500px|thumb|none|The description for the sawn-off as seen on the offical website]]
[[Image:reddeadsawnoff3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Browning Auto-5]]===
[[Image:BrowAut5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Browning Auto 5 (pre WW2) - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Browning auto-5 RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Remington 11 Browning Auto 5 RDR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Rdr twscreen bonnie.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Winchester Model 1897]]===
[[Image:Winchester Model 1897.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Winchester Model 1897 - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:Winchester 1897 RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Others==

===[[Gatling Gun]]===
[[Image:Gatling gun 1865.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Gatling RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

===Cannon===
[[Image:RDR Cannon.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Maxim|Maxim Gun]]===
[[Image:MaximMG08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Maxim MG08 7.92x57mm Mauser on sled mount]]
[[Image:Maxim RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
They call it the "Browning Gun" in the game. Is that supposed to mean it's a Browning M1917? Maxim fits the time period better.

===[[Dynamite]]===

[[Image:Dynamite RDR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

===[[Molotov_Cocktail|Firebottle]]===
[[Image:Firebottle RDR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

===Knife===
[[Image:Expert hunter caption.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Or at least a f**king idiot would do so,too,but discrimination is wrong]]
[[Image:Throwing_knife_RDR.JPG|thumb|none|600px|The knife is the only silenced weapon in the game!

]]

===Rope===
[[Image:78.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Needs Positive Identification==

===Unknown Revolver===

I noticed a nickel finished revolver on one screencap, that could be the Schofield but looks somewhat different:
[http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1738/reddeadredemptionplayst.jpg]
Any ideas?

It could be the Colt New Service swing out revolver with a nickel finish

That's just the way the enemy guns look, makes it easier to spot when you go to pick up ammunition. They make the Winchesters look like '66 "Yellow Boys" because of that effect. -Cole Thorton

Yeah, Cole is right. It looks like it has a nickel finish, but all enemy guns look that way. Hell, the SAA looks chromed half the time. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 01:10, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

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