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Talk:Red Dawn (2012)

2012-10-30T05:06:21Z

Pistolpete:

WTH? Did a 3 year old write this page?
:::Well the median age of the average IMFDB user is getting lower all the time ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::I think it would be more advisable to wait until a teaser or official set photos emerge before creating this page. After all, the release date is more than nine months away. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

::::I fixed the page's spelling and grammar issues.

==AK as seen in promo pic==
Is that an AKM with black synthetic furniture? Should I take an inventory Movie AKM and put black AK74 style furniture on it and photograph it for this page? Or is the gun something else? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

:Please do.-protoAuthor 01:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

:I think it may be something else. It may be something in the AK 100 series or some other varient. We need a better look at the weapons in question.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 01:12, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::Can American armorers actually get AK-103s? I didn't think they could without difficulty. If I had to guess, the weapons in this movie are probably AKMs with synthetic furniture and AK-74 flash hiders. There was another picture posted on the forum which showed the guns more clearly, and they had the ribbed receiver covers (AK-103s come from the factory with smooth). Plus, why would armorers go to the trouble of getting AK-103s? Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to just vismod AKMs? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::It's more cost effective to modify existing (and registered pre-86) AKMs with AK-103 parts kits ;) Doesn't mean *I* will do it, because it's a lot of work for no current reason, but I can't see a reason why others would not be able to do so. It does NOT look like a 103 but then I have not seen better pics from the production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC) (correction) Title II manufacturers (Like CW) can build their own from the numerous AK receivers being built in this country and complete it with Parts kits. Again, I have no definitive indications of what these are, but there are tons of new types of AKs being imported (now only European style guns), which is a BIG change from the 1980s when there were only Chinese guns. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::::Here are a few pictures of the rifles for ID(more than likely, these are non-firing props since the muzzle brakes and front sight appear to be filled in):
:::::Those are DEFINITELY resin/rubber castings of AKMS with synthetic furniture and AK74 style muzzle brakes. BTW: those young Asian American Airsofter Extras who look kinda young compared to the hardened look of real PLA soldiers (hahaha) are wearing fake PLA CAMO that looks REALLY GOOD! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::::http://img163.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=81311432742685146627835.jpg
::::Also, an AKMSU with an interesting forearm:
::::http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3010/reddawnset4.jpg

:::::I think those are probably AKMs (most likely Maadis) dressed up as AK-103s. The receivers look pretty worn...almost as though they've been in the armory's inventory for 25+ years. Although what MPM mentioned (built-up guns from parts kits) is also possible, the AK-103 resembles the AKM so closely externally (besides the furniture and flash hider) that vismoding the older gun seems like the easiest thing to do. I'll have to ask around and see if anyone knows who supplied the weapons for this show. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::The Gas block on these guns look a lot like the AK74 style, which is common on a lot of the recent AK rifles being sold in this country now (a lot were built on parts kits from Europe). The straight 90 degree down gas block style of the AK74 is seen on all manner of AKs nowadays. As a note, it's a pain in the butt to remove a gas block on an existing AK only to replace it with another style of gas block for a movie, and I doubt that the production will pay for the hassle, so they may be Title II converted European style AKS (with American receivers). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Are you sure your eye didn't slip? Those guns do not look to me like they have the AK-74-style gas block. And yes, some of them are definitely rubber castings of the live-fire weapons, which is I guess what we'd expect for a production with dozens/hundreds of extras who carry weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:29, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::AKMSU forearm looks like it might be a KAC AK RAS. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:51, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::: That's Quad-rail from KCI [http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7889/2655074.jpg]

:::::::: This is cool, I hadn't heard about this remake until just now. One thing I noticed was that all these extras have good grip and trigger finger control... Except that guy with the carbine with the odd rails (all AKs with rails look weird to me), he's got his finger VERY on the trigger with with other hand OVER THE MUZZLE. Good job... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

==Fan Photos==

I have a few photos that show some of the weapons seen during the film's production, but they are all unofficial pictures taken by extras/bystanders on the film set. AFAIK there are no official set pictures that have been released, so would there be any problems if I post them?--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 02:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::Those are still unauthorized images. Any person can take pictures on sets. I had my camera confiscated from the set of [[Back to the Future Part II|BTTF2]], because there was a lock down on ANY unauthorized images that had not been cleared through the studio. So in answer to your question: I would say not. Also undercover fan pics tend to suck in quality. But posting links to them to aid us in identifying guns is okay. But I don't want ANY movie studio lawyer seeing IMFDB as a place which holds the image on their server (which is what happens when you upload a pic). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:14, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, parts of this movie were filmed in Royal Oak, MI, and I still have lots of college friends who live there. Lots of them took photos. Theoretically, let's say they were filming on their street, right in front of their house. If they stood on their front lawn, or just opened a window and snapped a photo, is it still an unauthorized image? It's one thing if you go to a set, but what happens when a set comes to you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

:::In that case, Image:Red dawn photos 008.jpg in the main page should be removed because it is an unauthorized picture. I will also post some links on the talk page if anyone is interested. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 03:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Red dawn photos 008.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Production still of extras posing as PLAGF soldiers armed with an unknown AKM variant.]]

Airsoft rifles guys, they just didn't bother to use the correct 5.45mm magazines.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_91&products_id=1258

::::Oh, great, not the old "movies always use airsoft guns and CGI muzzle flashes" rumors again... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Who is the anonymous poster who wrote that? Also movies have and DO use Airsoft for non firing scenes, but I saw shaky, blurry, crappy bootleg video of a shootout and they were DEFINITELY rocking and rolling with blanks during one sequence. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::I believe I've seen that footage, too. Those definitely aren't airsoft. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::I wish they kill these occupants in most brutal ways. Like burning, decapitating, riding over with a tank etc.
:::::::WTF? User:178.92.110.168, you been drinking too much coffee or popping pills or something? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Is this movie low budget or something? Because I can't find any trailers for it other than fake crap on youtube using PLA parade footage and GI Joe footage.
I can see why they'd use AK-103s though, the airsoft or dummy QBZ-95s are very expensive. Gotta give them credit, at least they used more asians than Last Airbender.
:::Are asians expensive too nowadays?

Actually these guys are wearing the latest PLA digital camo, that itself cannot be cheap, and they obviously done their research. Don't know why they got AKs...maybe it's suppose to represent Type-03 or something.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 21:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

:They've AKs because Norinco guns, like the PLA's standard service rifle the QBZ-95, can't be imported into the United States. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:32, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

To the guy who posted below the pic, you can't put an airsoft 7.62 magazine in an airsoft 5.45 AK any more than you could with a real one. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Regarding some other pics of the vehicles that are supposedly going to be in the movie, are they at least based on Chinese vehicles or just US Army vehicles with the Chinese flag painted on them?
[[User:BigD|BigD]] 18:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

The Hummer H1's could be a stand-in for the Brave Warrior, which is basically a knockoff of the H1. Try wrapping that around your head --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

With airsoft, you can stick the 7.62 mags in a 5.45 gun and vice versa. looks od, but still works fine--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 23:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

China has its own version of the HMMWV, look up the Dongfeng EQ2050-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 03:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if the knowledgeable American's gonna know that the EQ2050 is a bona-fied LICENSED clone instead of bashing it as a knock-off? --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Are those AK-74M's.--[[User:Gunner5|Gunner5]] 11:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
:No, they're AKMs with black plastic furniture. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:48, 7 September 2011 (CDT)

== Remaking a great movie is a bad idea ==

Why is Hollywood making remakes of all the good movies? What's next? A remake of "Apocalypse Now"? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 04:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's debatable whether Red Dawn is really a great movie, so a better question might be why a movie that is so reflective of a particular era and its cultural landscape was remade when perceptions and fears about the world have changed. Regardless, I am still interested in seeing how this film turns out, if it ever gets a theatrical release. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 05:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. It seems like 80's movie are always difficult to remake. Movies like Ferris Bueller, Teen Wolf, and Weird Science simply cannot work now. The same applies to horror movies.
I'm gonna go see this movie, but my expectations ain't too high.
R.I.P Patrick Swayze.

I just know when a movie is going to suck and this is not looking good. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 17:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Of course it'll suck, the only trailers I've seen are mockups and fan photos. Was this even mentioned at this year's Comic-Con?

Actually, i thought the movie was pretty good, i was able to see a pre-release showing on base. A perk of being in the military, i guess. Plus they did keep it pretty true to the original story line [[User Rotncorpse]] 21:33 29 October

does anyone actually know that the original red dawn was critically panned, so remaking a panned film wouldn't sound like such a bad idead to a studio head, its probably going to have the same reaction as the first one, but with one difference, it won't be people complaining about violence or political issues, it will be the remaking of a cult classic without your permission, sorry but it happens.
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] ([[User talk:Pistolpete|talk]]) 01:06, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

== Movie Release ==
The bad news, if you can call it that, is that the release of the flick may be delayed indefinitely. Since it seems MGM is in the midst of possible bankruptcy proceedings and since they are the parent studio of the makers of the movie it may be some time before it sees the light of day. If at all. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

http://www.themovieinsider.com/m4854/red-dawn/
:There are two shots of armored vehicles on that site. One looks like a fake M1 Abrams, and the other is some Red Chinese armored car. The M1 looks like it might be the same fake M1 from Courage Under Fire, or at least is also based on the Centurion. (Notice the number of wheels, and the gap between the second and third wheels.) As for the armored car, I have no idea, although the turret looks really fake. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

[http://i0.tmi.tc/images/p/600/13498.jpg]

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The Abrams is definitly a fake. However, it looks more like it is based on a Cheiftain chassis, mainly due to the curvature of the front hull/glassis plate, the placement of the six roadwheels, and the height of it. The armoured car...your guess is as good as mine, because unlike the Abrams, this isn't a former peice of Brit kit reconditioned.
:Now that you mention it, yes, I agree. The Chieftain has the same gap between the second and third wheels, and the Chieftain turret is flatter as well, which would make it easier to adapt into an Abrams. But I had always heard that Chieftains were a pain in the butt mechanically, and you'd think productions would prefer something that was easier and thus cheaper to maintain over something that looked more right for the part. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 18:48, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::IIRC, the "Abrams" is actually a modified Centurion tank, one of several ex-Australian examples which were originally created for use in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''. The armored car is made by General Purpose Vehicles of Michigan (who usually build armored vehicles for law enforcement use) and is only lightly modified with the addition of a turret. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 23:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Don't think it's a Centurion, the drive sprockets look wrong. Also notice the fake Abrams fume extractor is mounted way too far forward on the gun; they'd only need to do that if they had to hide the fume extractor of the Chieftain's gun, which is there. Looking at images from Courage Under Fire, those fake Abrams mount theirs roughly where it should be on an Abrams, nearer to the tank than to the muzzle. Look here: [http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2243 link] and you can see the drive sprocket on the Courage Under Fire tank is almost the same size as one of the roadwheels, much bigger than the one on the pictured fake Abrams. It's almost certainly a Chieftain. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 08:00, 27 March 2011 (CDT)

Man, I would have thought you guys would have been cheesed more that the movie may not see the light of day any time soon!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:I have to admit I'm not terribly excited by this movie. I'm against remakes in general, I really can't understand how you can remake Red Dawn, considering the Cold War has been over for about twenty years now. Back in the eighties, the Soviets were waist deep in Afghanistan, we were slinging Olympic boycotts back and forth, and the president actually referred to them as the Evil Empire. To the kids growing up back then, the Soviets WERE evil. They oppressed the freedom loving mujahadeen of Afghanistan, they shot down our airliners, they teamed up with the Iron Sheik against Hulk Hogan, they held our POWS in Vietnam, and dammit, they killed Apollo Creed (IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXHIBITION! THROW THE GODDAMN TOWEL!) And that was just the eighties. The Berlin Airlift, Korea, Vietnam, Prague Spring, the Cuban missile crisis, Khrushchev promising to bury us, duck and cover drills, those were just chapters in our history books. Now, I'm the last man to defend Red China (the fact that I still refer to them as Red China should tell you something.) But let's face it, what's the worst thing they've done to us? Cheat in women's gymnastics? Sell us lead-laden toys? Give the Houston Rockets false hope? They downed one of our planes, sure, but the only person who actually died was one of their guys. Tiananmen square was twenty years ago, and they've been oppressing Tibet since before anyone here was born. They need us and we need them. Like it or not, we are economically dependent on them, and they are on us. As much as I'd like to see American troops roll into Beijing and tear down that red flag, war makes absolutely no sense, from an economic, political, or security standpoint. The only ally that they're threatening is Taiwan, and we're such a good ally, we won't even recognize them as a country. In summary, the perceived threat of a Soviet invasion was real, as Soviet aggression was real. Our government and the media, backed with forty years of history, fed our hysteria over the Soviet Union. There's no perceived threat from Red China. That same government and media are bending over backwards to accommodate the reds. They might as well remade Red Dawn with us being invaded by Belgium. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Coincidentally, I ran across this article today. Apparently I'm not the only one who feels this way. Twenty years after the Cold War ended, Russians are still the boogeymen! [http://kotaku.com/5616543/americans-get-russia-fighting-the-us] --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 14:52, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::Um...tell us how you really feel?!?--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I would've been excited if the remake was still set in the 80's, and all the politics were the same. You can update the cast, crew, film technology, but you can't update the politics. Another film that can't be remade today: The Day After. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 00:39, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::You know, to be fair, the last Jack Ryan book by Tom Clancy did have China as the main military villain with a credible nuclear threat. Granted the possibility of a Chinese/Russian alliance is slim to none but the original movie was a stretch in and of itself --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:44, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well, Clancy also had a novel that had us going to war with Japan, so yeah. The original was a stretch, but the threat of Central America falling to the reds was very real back then, or at least we were made to believe it was. Whether is was truly realistic or not is not relevant, it was our believe that it was realistic that counted, and it's that culture of fear and antagonism that can't be reproduced by replacing the Soviets with Red China. Not only would a remake set in the 80's work better, I think it would be more popular. There's a lot of 80's nostalgia. I think people would rather relive the good old days rather than face the fact that the Red Chinese are a power to be reckoned with. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 01:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

::::::The problem with that though is the Chinese were not as big a threat in the 80s as they are today. Their military was less advanced then, as was their economy, and we still had our massive Cold War arsenel. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:::::::No, I meant using the Soviet Union of the eighties rather than the Red Chinese of today. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 03:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, nevermind. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

:::Well having been a teenager in the 80's (born 1968) and enlisting the first time in 86 (when the Soviets seemed like or were still a very real threat to the U.S.A.) I have to admit that I miss the old U.S.S.R. Hell I and many others were actually happy in the late 70's and early 80's when the U.S. and Red China began to have a thaw in their relationship. Gave us a nice counterweight to the Soviets. Anybody remember that? sure there was that whole nuclear armageddon hangin over our heads, but now I realize that there was more clarity in the world. Now it's just a fucking muddled mess. Oh well. I'm going to watch my Chinese made television. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 20:27, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I was born in the Soviet Union in 1969. In 1970-80 years it was impossible - the production in the USSR the film about how the U.S. attacked us. A man who would propose to make such a film would be called simply an idiot. And in years when the authorities Khrushchev or Stalin, the man who proposed to make such film is simply put into prison. I think that the Soviet government feared the U.S. more than the U.S. feared the Soviet Union. But even the Communists did not humiliate himself in front of their own people so stupid movies.
And what we have now? Russian men 20 years ago gave a kick the communists ass (which, I remind you, did not create a crappy movie about the Americans).
But it turns out that our country is in the minds of Americans remain almost the same threat as before (at least - in the minds of the creators of Red Dawn 2, as well as those people on whom it is targeted). What idiot came up with a scenario in which Russia may team up with China against the United States? What idiot did not spare the money to create this wretched film? We have only one common enemy - it is Islamic terrorism. Just do not need to shit in the peoples heads in the 21 century… I apologize for my bad English [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)

== Movie Release Update ==
Was just checking out a web site for movie trailers and the release date for this is now listed as April 2011. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 14:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

So the title should be changed to 2011 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

:Agreed. Even the IMDB page now refers to it as Red Dawn (2011). --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 06:02, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

== First Cast Photo Released ==
[[Image:Red_Dawn_2011.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The new Wolverines in a promotional image from Red Dawn (2011).]]

I wish I had that kind of trigger discipline in high school. On other notes, it looks like they're using the generic airsoft AKs that the Chinese extras are using, and who the hell is that third female? --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 18:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
::The girl on the left is Julie, who is played by Alyssa Diaz. It also looks as though Chris Hemsworth is holding an AKMSU and Josh Hutcherson (kneeling on the right) is holding a M249 SAW. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 23:47, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey! It's the rejects from the cast auditions for Firefly! Hughjefender.

Really? Is that Josh Peck standing next to the blond?-[[User:Gunner5|Gunner5]]

== Bad guys now North Korean ==

Apparently MGM is changing the bad guys in this film to North Korean rather than Chinese, so as to not miss out on the Chinese market. Apparently they need to change the opening voice over, two scenes and CG Korean logos over the Chinese on the vehicles. [http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=75300]
What is the main infantry weapon of the North Korean army, is it an AK-74 copy? If so, then this change actually makes the weapons used make slightly more sense, albeit accidentally. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:01, 16 March 2011 (CDT)

It's actually more funny that Homefront had the same idea. So people who don't want to do research would wonder is Homefront a game adaption of the remake. The Homefront developers early on stated they didn't think China is "that scary" at all and they picked a more modern and powerful Korean military and they don't even us AKs. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:32, 18 March 2011 (CDT)

I can only imagine the pain in the ass that the writers of the remake now have to do to change this all up. And now the special effects guys have to digitally erase all references and symbolism to China and re-paint over with North Korean symbolism (And the end result will look like crap because the original enemy was the Chinese, and now all the Chinese actors that they got for the filming process won't even match the modified North Korean symbols). But if you ask me, I think they need to drop this project right now, and put it off for a later release date to fix up these new changes a little bit more. Especially since the studios are so eager to change everything from Chinese to North Korean just to be "politically correct" and to not offend China since they are a "trading partner" to the United States...

Movie studios have no backbone these days. Seriously MGM, STOP this project now, put it off for a later release date, and fix it up a little so that way it doesn't look like crap in the long run, and show us all that you can do the original Red Dawn justice with this remake. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 19:04, 19 March 2011 (CDT)

:''Especially since the studios are so eager to change everything from Chinese to North Korean just to be "politically correct" and to not offend China since they are a "trading partner" to the United States...''

:From what I have heard, "political correctness" had nothing to do with the decision. It was simply because China is now one of the major market places for American cinema, and obviously, releasing a movie with the Chinese as the bad guys isn't going to go over well in that market. Although I read a blog post by somebody who pointed out that if MGM had just added a new ending in which the Chinese ''won'' (and maybe some scenes that made the PLA look less "bad"), that would have been a huge hit in China.
::I doubt Red Dawn was ever planned to be released in China, since their government has a strict quota on the amount of Hollywood movies that get released each year. MGM and Sony (the distributor) were probably more concerned that the Chinese government would respond to their portrayal in Red Dawn by not allowing one of their major money makers like Bond 23 to be released there. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:11, 26 March 2011 (CDT)

:::Chances are that this film and Bond 23 will never see the light of day until MGM fixes their financial issues (If they haven't already). --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 22:51, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

:''What is the main infantry weapon of the North Korean army, is it an AK-74 copy? If so, then this change actually makes the weapons used make slightly more sense, albeit accidentally.''

:The North Korean defense industry manufactures AK-47 (Type 58), AKM (Type 68), and AK-74 (Type 88) clones. All of them are in the KPA inventory and remain in use with different units. Of course, the fact that the North Koreans still have such outdated weapons in inventory should demonstrate how unlikely they are to be able to invade the U.S., but I guess that's another story. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:10, 26 March 2011 (CDT)

::Far as I can tell, just invading the US, to say nothing of conducting an occupation, would be practically impossible. Aside from their nuclear weapons, the majority of the military hardware fielded by the DPRK is obsolete and defunct Cold War-era hardware that would be completely outclassed by that used by the US. Furthermore, you're talking about occupying country several times their own size on the other side of the world's largest ocean, which would be a significant logistical hinderance. In short, North Korea attempting an invasion and occupation in the US would be a fool's errand at best, and utter suicide at worst. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:56, 27 March 2011 (CDT)

:::Yep, exactly, I agree 100%. The DPRK invading the U.S. would be impossible. Actually, due to the United States' geography and power projection abilities (mostly due to its Navy), ''nobody'' (including China and Russia) can invade us. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:13, 27 March 2011 (CDT)

::::Unless the North Koreans were to try and make their way though Alaska and Canada like how the Soviet Union did in the original Red Dawn. But even then, that's a bit of a stretch since Alaska is home to many U.S. Air Force and Air National Guard bases, other assorted military bases for the Army, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard (I'm assuming), and nearly everybody in the state owns a gun for either sporting purposes, self-defense, collecting purposes, or hunting. So I guess that probably couldn't be a good idea... Unless North Korea is supported by other nations allied to them like how the Soviet Union had several other allies helping them in the original Red Dawn... Or like how in the videogame [[Homefront]] where they had the backing of Japan and the Southeast Asian community... I don't know, I'm over-thinking this subject way too much... Anyone else want to weigh in on this topic? --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 22:51, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

Initially I was excited about this movie, but now I think they need to just put the nail in the coffin now and cancel it. I did run upon a magazine website that got an advance screening of the original version with China as the enemy, which I figure some of you might be interested in reading (it does have spoilers, so beware). [http://www.libertasfilmmagazine.com/exclusive-libertas-sees-the-uncensored-version-of-mgms-new-red-dawn/] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:20, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

== Invaders ==

They were Russian, then it was Chinese, then it was Chinese and Russian, now it's North Korean? WTF? Was that done because of Homefront? No wonder this movie is taking so long to come out. They keep changing the script. It also has Josh Peck, that pretty much killed my chances of wanting to see it.--Gunner5
:The reason it has been delayed is not because of the changes but because of MGM's financial situation. The invaders are an Asian coalition, but the changes were to make North Korea the leaders of it rather than China, and to push them into the background. The changes were done after shooting was finished, and all that was required was the rerecording of an intro sequence, a bit of editing and CG-ing the emblems on vehicle from Chines to North Korean. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:57, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
::Even then, the original plot of China invading to "liberate" us from our "corrupt" leaders and economic crisis, was far more interesting and identifiable for me. I doubt it would have been as good as the original, but it sounded like a good movie. Now I can't even take it seriously anymore. At least China is a legit military power with a blue water navy, unlike North Korea. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:50, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

== Well...Hopefully..Finally...Maybe ==
Saw this, hope it means it will finally hit the theaters.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1070010/red_dawn_remake_finally_set_for_release.html

--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:21, 27 September 2011 (CDT)
:Well it's about time! --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 01:51, 29 September 2011 (CDT)
:::http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1143265/red_dawn_remake_finally_has_release_date.html--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:54, 29 November 2011 (CST)

Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-09-27T01:23:29Z

Pistolpete:

'''MAIN PAGE CONTENT NOTE: Only ''officially released'' images will be permitted. Leaked images, even if publicised elsewhere, are not permitted. This rule is not negotiable.'''

'''TALK PAGE CONTENT NOTE: Do not post lists of weapons you hope to see in the game. They will be deleted.'''

== The Newest Joke? ==
Why put up a IMFDB page of this game when it looks clearly like a waste of money

Because I am loking forward to this game, and cheevo hunting. Besides I am the only biotic organism that plays CoD for the SP and not the multi (well, except for split-screening with my girlfriend). Anyways, I like Call of Duty, and I think this will be cool, and I cannot wait to see what new weapons they will have. - [[User:1morey]] May 6, 2012 8:58 AM (EST)

Because we hate you, that's why. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:44, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

:And ''he sucks'' and we hate him. :P [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:30, 9 June 2012 (CDT)

Sorry [[User:1morey|1morey]], but you are not the only "biotic organism" who buy CoD only for the SP campaign XD [[User:Lone Soldier|Lone Soldier]]

I too like to play CoD single player campaigns. I dabbled a little in MP here and there, but don't really understand what all the fuss is about. If only the developers put in as much time and effort into the SP nowadays, like they used too :( --[[User:Ultimagameboy|Ultimagameboy]] 19:12, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

== XM8? ==
http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070805.jpg

Weapon in the pic looks like a modified XM8 [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Looks like the hybrid ACR from RE6 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:31, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Looks to just be like a space gun... It "resembles" a XM8 and an ACR, but looks like the SCAR from Crysis. It's just a future weapon. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 16:40, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

To be more specific,it appears to be the Malaysian variant of the XM8,the Malaysian variant has no built in scope like on the ones designed for the U.S Army,but a rail instead.however it has extra features of weapons such as the ACR, which Treyarch probably to give their own artistic touch to make it look unique and futuristic.[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 22:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

In the description, someone wrote that it is based on the M41A1 pulse rifle from Aliens. How? Why? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:52, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

== Future Warfare ==
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070805.jpg
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-074340.jpg
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070746.jpg
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-065949.jpg

The game is set in near future, rumours say it's in 2027. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

That's what we've been needing. More future crap. ~ACE

Call Of Recon: Ghost Ops --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Well, I've given up on the series now that being on top of five grenades when they go off doesn't kill people.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

:Givern how CoD does with real weapons, watching them making up weapons should be eight kinds of hilarious. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:10, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

its been confirmed to be set in the year 2025,i would imagine a mixture of real weapons,and Treyarch-created mashups will be included[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 22:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

As long as we get (have) to shoot hundreds of rounds full auto at each quadrupedal robot it will apparently be awesome. I hope bullets have no effect on enemies until they suddenly die also. ~ACE

:I don't know, as long as the robots acknowledge being hit, a linebreaker enemy that stops you getting bogged down in one place can be good. ''Resistance: Fall of Man'' had enemies which would use their superior hitpoints (3+ headshots on normal for grunts with the basic rifles) to advance under fire while firing from the hip, which meant they ''didn't'' have to spam grenades at you constantly to stop you staying in one place (also they had Steelheads with guns that shot through walls to help them with that). It actually made the firefights rather more interesting than the headshot = dead standard. Though they at least reacted to being shot (flinched but kept running), it wasn't like ''STALKER'' where enemies were either alive or dead and wouldn't acknowledge any state in between (which in ''Clear Sky'' where they jacked up Bloodsucker HP ridiculously meant you weren't actually sure you were even hurting them).

:In general enemy variety is a huge weakness for modern shooters, since almost everything is 'man with gun.' If they do this ''right'' it could actually have far more varied firefights. Or they'll just have it invincible until you find the glowing rocket launcher Private Dies In An Inconvenient Place dropped, which seems more likely all things considered. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:04, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

::Dual wielding Javelins. ~ACE

== Come On ==

There is NOTHING warranting a page for this yet. All of you fanboys need to drop your cocks and have a little patience. Would any IMFDB mods put up with this for any other page or project with the same amount of leaked content, being 1, maybe 2 usable pictures? No way; this whole thing strikes me as ridiculous. If there's nothing concrete worth putting on the main page, stick to the Treyarch forums. It's insane how quickly the COD community jumped onto it on IMFDB. It's fucking preposterous to discuss ONE PICTURE for a WHOLE GAME THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED YET. Please, fanboys, calm down, and don't get ahead of yourselves. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 16:38, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Finally someone who agrees with me. --[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]

I can't disagree [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:18, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

The game has been officially announced, there are several pictures on CallofDuty.com --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 17:47, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Plus, a trailer is coming out today [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 18:29, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Trailer released, and I can already see inclusions in the form of the M249. --[[User:Jusuchin|Jusuchin]] 19:21, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer Weapon Spots ==

Weapon spots from the trailer that I found in the new trailer: at 0:30 there is a M134 Minigun (future-ized) mounted on a four legged combat drone, 0:43 there is a tank drone that appears to have a Metal Storm weapon mounted on its left (our right), 1:09 there is a future pistol (seems unrelated to any real world firearm), 1:11 there is a future-ized XM8, 1:18 there is an M16 (which model can't tell though length suggest it is a full length barrel and has 20 round magazine), 1:27 there what appears to be an M249 SAW (or M240), 1:31 there is a soldier with a balaclava firing a bullpup short barreled weapon that bears resemblance to the QBZ-95, at 1:31 or 1:32 (very easy to miss) there is a soldier being blown away holding an AK variant and by the looks of the handguard and flash hider it is an AN-94, at 1:34 in horseback solders are armed with WWII bolt action rifles, at 1:36 the technical is armed with a Dshk hmg, 1:44 hard to make out but rider on the right has an AK pattern weapon, likely an AK-47 since it looks like the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, 1:48 unknown shotgun. That's all I found for now. --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 21:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)
:I have an intuition that the M16 might (and I have empathize this, ''might'') be an A1 variant or a faux XM16 judging solely from silhouette of the upper receiver. The SAW apparently has an Mk 48 Mod 1 styled heat shield and handguard but that doesn't really mean anything, considering how the franchise loves to mix and match different variants. Weapon at 1:32, on the other hand, is ''definitely'' an AN-94. At least in aesthetic terms.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 01:03, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:: Isn't it "Kriss USA" instead of "TDI" now?[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 08:04, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:::Possibly, but KRISS ALLCAPS TACTICOOL ARMS is a stupid title and they were TDI first. They only changed it because they've belatedly discovered the mil-spec subgun market is a ghost town if you're not an MP5 and they're only ever going to sell Vectors to mall ninjas. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

==Designated Arguing/Complaining Area==
Before this discussion page turns to chaos like all the other CoD talk pages, let's open up a designated complaint zone. I know many people want to offer their negative opinions about the game, so if you don't have any real discussion topics please post in subheadings here. Hopefully this will allow people who want to actually discuss the game rather than arguing or whining to avoid these comments and have an actual discussion.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:51, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

===What is this going to be like===
I have looked at the trailer several times. This is how I think the games success is going to be. A: It will be a huge hit and sell millions of copies like all other COD games or B: It is going to be a complete and total disaster and there will never be another COD game made again in our lifetimes. I find from what I learned from the plot line details that has been released that it is going to feature what the first Black Ops did, except that the flashbacks will be set in the 1980's and the present 2025. I am wondering how Treyarch is going to do that. This will be a very curious COD game that I will be wondering about UNTIL it comes out.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:58, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

===Wow...===
I'll start off by saying the obvious- this game looks stupid. I mean, why jump from the 60's to the 2020's? I could see the futuristic idea that they were trying for, but this looks like a Ghost Recon rip-off. I have just lost what little respect I had for Treyarch. As more details become availiable, I might change my mind, but first impressions are not good. As with any game, if it is fun I will play it.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:51, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

I've lost respect for the Call of Duty franchise after Infinity Ward broke up [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

After at least one failed Soviet aggression in the late 60s, failed invasion of the Eastcoast US, ''failed'' (third time's the charm, right?) invasion of continental Europe within the last three games alone, you'd think the US at least would just get used to getting attacked on a major scale by this point.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 01:09, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:Well they have, it's pretty clear from MW2 that Russia tries to nuke the US so often in this universe that they didn't even bother with a counter-launch since that would just encourage them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:11, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I can't believe how generic they managed to make their new take on the series. Evil robots, mechs on four legs and choppers with unnecesserly many features. It's basically the same as every futuristic game. On top of it the game looks awful, name doesn't make sense, it looks more over-the-top than MW3. Could Treyarch have mistaken May 1 for April 1? This either is a joke, or will become one.--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 05:46, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

What the hell were Treyarch thinking? I was seriously hoping too see what happened to Hudson, Weaver and Mason in Operation Charybdis and maybe if we would get to see how Price started his career. It is often better to go back to basics than too go forward complications. [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
:What made you so sure that Price was going to be in this game?[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:45, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:Modern Warfare is set in a different continuity, and they even wanted to spin it off into an entirely separate franchise. The Call of Duty label was stuck on by Activision as a way of marketing it. Price won't be appearing because he doesn't exist. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 22:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:From what I've read on CoD wiki and heard, 1/3 of the game will take place in the 80s and the rest in 2025--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 09:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

: @ The Wierd It - the 'intel' at the ending of the final story mission of Black Ops suggest that Mason is being hunted by an SAS team in South Africa lead by a young operative called 'Jonathan' which many people have taken to mean a very young Captain Price [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]
::I think it's very unlikely that they'll have any crossovers between the WaW/BO and MW universes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:47, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
::I know that. I'm wondering where the leap in logic came that took people from one of the more common first names in the English language to "this is obviously meant to be Price". [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 15:36, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:::Well, it's positively rational compared to the kind of logical gymnastics that some rumour threads get. "I performed a series of random mathematical actions on this Valve press release and made the number 3! Episode 3 confirmed!" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 15:59, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
The first thing I thought when I saw the trailer was that this game was CoD attempting to piggyback on the whole idea of Metal Gear Solid 4. Then I saw the horse sequences and realized I was actually watching an Uncharted 3 trailer. --[[User:K|K]] 19:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I honestly like the way it's going now. I liked Black Ops better than Modern Warfare because it went to a setting not commonly covered (especially in big-budget titles) and had some more interesting segments than just running through an urban environment shooting dozens of AK-toting terrorists or Russians. I'm interested in seeing how Black Ops II progresses now that they're able to create their own technology (no worries of anachronisms or errors). It's a refreshing change of pace from generic World War II and modern day "realistic" shooters. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 22:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

@ The Wierd It - Ok mate, fair enough I might have jumped the gun. But on what we know from the intel in Black Ops and the character of Price in the MW franchise, ("promising SAS solider named Jonathan" also referred to as Price in the french Black Ops) - basing it on that knowledge, see why I jumped the gun? However, they brought Woods back for this one, when we were all sure he was dead, what's too say a very young Price won't be featuring in this game? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:I still love COD4, great game, but now I refuse to play anything after it. I did play through MW3's story to see the ending, and the MW series' ''story'' is pretty good, but the 2 and 3's gameplay is soooooo bad. In every single mission except one, you start with a reflex sight on your gun in MW3. The other mission you have a pistol. I'm gonna follow this page just to see how bad they can make it. I find it really funny how Halo and Mass Effect have guns (and tech) that are more realistic than MW2/BO/MW3/BO2. Hell, not just more realistic, Halo and ME's weapons ''actually make sense''. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:23, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

It looks like the US got some help from the Combine with those 4 propeller gunships they have. Maybe we might see an AR1 or a Strider? :D [[User:Lurker McNasty|Lurker McNasty]] 22:12, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

===My two cents on the matter===
Ok... well, first off, I'll admit that I am a fan of CoD. But from the first glance of this trailer, I think that Activision needs it's old management back, and fire the current management along with Robert Kotick.

Seriously Robert? This is what Black Ops II is going to be? A pseudo-futuristic first person shooter with player-driven choices thrown into the mix?

I was expecting that the next Call of Duty was going to be the inevitable Black Ops II (and if not that, then maybe something different for a change like making the game about a war that many people have forgotten about, like World War I or the Korean War, cause World War II and Vietnam get WAY too much attention). but I was expecting it to dive into details about Black Ops operations in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s when the United States got involved in conflicts during those years AFTER the Vietnam war (a.k.a., Grenada, Panama, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Gulf War I, Bosnian conflicts, etc.). But really, THIS is the best idea that your workers came up with? Some cyberwar between China and the United States?

Ok, from what I've read, there will be some throwbacks to the 1980s in this game, but adding in player-driven choices which affect the outcome of the game is a bad idea. I play Call of Duty for mindless entertainment and for shooting things, not to play over and over for making different moral decisions every time to get all the endings of the game! If I wanted a first person shooter with that theme, I'd go play Fallout 3. (Speaking of which, do you think we're really that stupid to notice that you guys stole "The Vault" name?)
: A video game uses the word "Vault" to refer to a location. Must have been stolen from Fallout, since they invented....the English language? [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

As for the weapons... you guys do realize that MANY of these weapons are either still on the drawing board, in the prototype stages, canceled (*cough* XM8 *cough*), or being tested in LIMITED numbers, and that we might not be seeing ANY of them in any future war by the year 2025... right?

it isn't even an xm8, i don't know how it could be a wrong choice for a gun if the gun itself isn't actually a real concept of any kind, its just a futuristic-looking gun designed by treyarch, and what would firing bobby kotick actually do it wouldn't change any of the games because he doesn't make any desicions regarding them, he worries about the money side e.g. the budget, the advertisement.
also the creators of fallout didn't actually invent the word vault so i don't really know what the pointless rant was for.--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 02:48, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

In the game it's called an M8A1. It's definitely the XM8. It's Treyarch doing what they do. Being creative with things that shouldn't have creativity added. [[User:DJCDavisDubstep|DJCDavisDubstep]] 16:25, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Well... maybe I might give this game a chance when it comes out. But seriously, if this is what all future Call of Duty games are going to follow from this point onward, then I will stick with the older ones instead. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 22:20, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

Hey, thanks to the video game industry, one would think that there may be a chance that the project will get cancelled like many games before it... unfortunately since the Call Of Duty franchise pops out games like a mother rabbit the future seems bleak...
--[[User:Mikethepanda|Mikethepanda]] 01:44, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

I'm pretty sure the game will still have all the mindless shooter nonsense that makes them millions and spawns dozens of poor imitations, but the addition of branching storylines and sandbox gameplay at least makes things more interesting. The Call of Duty formula stagnated with Modern Warfare 2, as it showed that it was little more than repeating the same basic formula with minor changes that add less new content than the average DLC pack. Black Ops at least tried to break from the mold a bit with the helicopter sequences (a throwback to the old games' vehicle segments) and the protagonist not suddenly losing his voice when you look through his eyes. I'm proud of Treyarch for trying to actually do something different and make an interesting game instead of following Infinity Ward and Activision's lead and just making a clone of Black Ops with some new weapons and tweaking the multiplayer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

== M16A1? ==

Link to image

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also the futuristic M4: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120502191412/callofduty/images/5/53/20120502-084241.jpg

The 'futuristic' M4 in the link above appears to be based upon the GR4 G26 airsoft rifle manufactured by Guay & Guay. Shown here for comparison: http://www.titano-shopping.com/immagini/Prodotti/Big/GR4_G26_DST

Yes it looks like that... It's not the first time CoD takes from airosft the looks for the guns

I wouldn't be surprised if they just used that futuristic looking gun for the photoshoot for the poster and it doesn't appear at all in the game itself. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:32, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

All those links are broken. Also I saw the recent trailer and the sillohuotte images of the M16 does look like an A1 from the handguard but the pop up trailer on gametrailers.com called it a classic M4 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:51, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

:Classic? It was an M4 before there were any M4s. That's a hipster M4 if there ever was one... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 02:43, 5 May 2012 (CDT)

== Rename ==

Shouldn't the page be renamed to "Call of Duty: Black Ops II". With the Roman numerals, because that's what all official material lists it as. - [[User:1morey]] May 5, 2012 8:59 AM (EST)

:Naw, since that would put it out of order when they inevitably make Black Ops 3. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:08, 6 May 2012 (CDT)

::A note could be made in the first paragraph though. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:36, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

== AK variant during horse scene ==

Recently revealed production images of Black Ops 2 not only show how seriously Treyarch is taking the precise animation of horses but also that the AK variants they are carrying are actually mo-capped TOYS:
http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/05/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-II-Horse-Motion-Capture-2.jpg

:Ha, that's the most obvious airsoft horse I've ever seen. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:40, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

== Bulldog Assault Rifle ==

Trailer from BO2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr0Z3RsOmlo

looks like the assault rifle from distric 9 use by the bad guys

:Looks like a futuristic QB rifle variant to me.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 06:34, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

::The name "Type 25" has been mentioned. Could that be it?

:::Most likely is. In fact, it almost definitely is, but we can't actually confirm that until the game comes out. Also, remember to sign your posts. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 05:46, 12 June 2012 (CDT)

== Preview ==

A preview mentions the Type 95 and Keltec KSG by name. Will wait for screens.
http://www.nowgamer.com/xbox-360/xbox-360-previews/1388343/black_ops_2_campaign_eyeson_with_two_levels_protect_potus_singapore.html

Well hopefully it's the real Type 95 and not the Type 97 misnamed [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:20, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

== Black Ops 2 Behind the Scenes E3 trailer ==

The new Behind the Scenes BO2 trailer released at E3 shows a couple of guns, most notably a sniper rifle at 3:18
Link to trailer: http://youtu(dot)be/GElKpJLvKLc
:2:08, what looks like a Galil SAR, 2:41, possible MM1 grenade launcher [[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 05:37, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

In another behind the scenes trailer, there's a KRISS Vector.--[[User:Mikethepanda|Mikethepanda]] 15:03, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

== There's a reason the Vector is called a K10 ==

Apparently, at SHOT Show 2011, a newer, improved, slightly more compact variant of the Vector with a telescoping stock was revealed, called the K10.
Here's the source:
:http://www.defensereview.com/kriss-k10-super-v-vector-xsmg-submachine-gun-smg-product-improvedupgraded-multi-caliber-subgun-for-special-operations-forces-sof-and-close-quarters-battle-cqb-applications-shot-show-2011-phot/

It does look slightly different from the Vector, though:
:http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/KRISS_K10_.45ACP_Submachine_Gun_1.jpg
:http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/KRISS_K10_.45ACP_Submachine_Gun_2.jpg
--[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 9:45, 6 July 2012 (PST)

== LAPD Shotgun ==

I don't really think that we can call the fact that the LAPD officers are using the KSG incorrect, since the game takes place in the future. Apparently in the time the game takes place, we will have flying, fighting robots, so it's not too hard to imagine that the LAPD could have switched shotguns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 11:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 9:48, 6 July 2012 (PST)

::Well after talking to some cops, it really depends on the department to say what an officer can have in his car. A lot can get their own personal shotguns in their car after qualifying with it. Not sure about a KSG, but it's possible if approved [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:22, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:::Yeah, it would probably be even more likely to be in use since the game takes place in the future. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 4:25, 10 July 2012 (PST)

== The Unknown Shotgun ==

The unknown shotgun is actually the Storm PSR (the ridiculous X-Ray Railgun thing), if you look closely at Harper's vest the white dot is from the scope, and it's also been stated by Treyarch that the Storm PSR has three barrels.... --[[User:Ghostdigga|Ghostdigga]] 21:20, 6 July 2012 (CDT)

== Gameplay footage ==

Well folks, here's a video from E3 showcasing the extended gameplay of Black Ops 2, and what might be expected in the game when it's released: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTtsn2Srm3E] --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 18:44, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

== AN-94 in segment taking place in the 80's? ==

It seems to me that part of the trailer the AN-94 appears in takes place in one of the 80's segments of the game. I shouldn't be surprised, but seriously, this seems like an even bigger anachronism than usual, even though it's not. Anyone else thinking the same? --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 2:57, 10 July 2012 (PST)

:You never know just because it was seen in the desert doesn't mean its in the 80's segment of the game.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]

::That's not what I meant, I just meant if it was part of the main 2025 story line of the game, there probably would have been '''some''' kind of future technology. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 3:14, 10 July 2012 (PST)

Oh yeah, it'll be anachronistic, no doubts there. This is Treyarch, after all. Do you think you'll be seeing anything (non-explosive) from the 20th Century in the future setting? I don't.--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 18:28, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, I have no doubt there'll be TONS of anachronisms in the 80's parts. I think the QBZ-97 was in the future part, so that's one thing from the 20th century in the future setting. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 4:41, 10 July 2012 (PST)

::I did not see it, are you talking about the fictional Type 25, or did i miss it?--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 18:46, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:::Go on the page, there'll be a QBZ-97, and then it'll say "Type 25" somewhere else on the page. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 5:24, 10 July 2012 (PST)

==SCAR-L :)==

http://k31.kn3.net/D8EA00866.png

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QP3_8y8uzk

:I'm afraid the picture link doesn't work, but the rifle that appears 1:45 is most definitely a SCAR-H. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 13:05, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

== IMFDB's Fault ==

Does anyone think that the fact that this game takes place in the future is partly our (IMFDB's users) fault. I bet someone working for Treyarch saw the IMFDB page for Black Ops and how the anachronistic guns are criticized, and thought, "We're anachronistic, are we? Well let's see about being anachronistic when the game takes place over a decade in the future!" --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:46, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

That's.... something to think about for awhile and if they did then either 3arc will be more accurate with the guns or make the guns worst than the first time.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 12:52, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

I don't know why it's such a big deal to everyone, just treat the "game" as a "game" and play it; there are too many over-opinionated comments with the words I DON'T LIKE IT, WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE IT LIKE I WANTED IT!!! WAAAAHHH
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 16:52, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

To be fair you do know where you are right? [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 17:12, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

Nah, I highly doubt that anyone at Treyarch or Activision has taken the time to read up about their videogames being featured on this site, and the legit or unnecessary complaints people have made about their past games. IMFDB has been a growing name in the film industry for a while now and this site is often browsed and looked into by those who have made or acted in the films featured on here and many of the administrators (the ones who work in the industry) can vouch for that. But for the gaming industry viewing our site? That's kinda hard to tell or to prove because we really don't have any members on here who work in the gaming industry (although I could be wrong) who can vouch for that. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 18:44, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

You do realize that I meant this as a joke, right? --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 18:07, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

"But for the gaming industry viewing our site? That's kinda hard to tell or to prove because we really don't have any members on here who work in the gaming industry (although I could be wrong) who can vouch for that."

I see where you're getting at, but I want to make a point. I was hoping for a bunch of weapons to be in CoJ 3. And more than a handful of them were in the game (or a variant of the weapon). Just to make this clear, I am an admin for the CoJ Wiki, and we have connections to Techland. And I had posted links to the IMFDB CoJ pages on the fan page for CoJ on Facebook (Which Techland frequents).
I was hoping for a Skorpion, Benelli M4, SW Model 29, FN FAL, M72 LAW, and FN Five-seveN. They were in the game.
I was hoping for a Uzi (Instead, a Mini Uzi), A Sig-Sauer (Instead a SIG Mosquito), Remington 700 ( Instead a Remington M24), MP5 variant (The game had a MP5A2), AR-15 variant (The game had a HK416), Mossberg 500 variant (The game had a Mossberg 500A Field Gun). Now I'm not saying Techland read the page and said "Ph hey, this 1morey guy wants to see these weapons, let's answer his request." That's not what I am saying at all, but I wouldn't doubt they read the page, and used the list as "inspiration". Another user had wanted a Steyr AUG A3. That was a cut weapon.

Anyways, back on topic. I don't doubt some video game companies use this site as inspiration, but if I had to pick one, I would say Infinity Ward, EA, and Treyarch probably don't look at this site at all, I think they just watch a bunch of movies, or see what other games have. - [[User:1morey]] August 7, 2012 3:10 PM (EST)
I mean if this isn't a coincidence, I don't know what is.

== Multiplayer Reveal Trailer ==

The new trailer for the multiplayer of BO2 just went up, showing a plethora of new weapons: -killerkirill, 19:13 GMT, 07/08/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrOpWYsp3L8&feature=g-u-u

:Well, the good thing at least is that the main page will be considerably shorter and easier to maintain. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 14:28, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

Taurus Raging Bull/Dan Wesson???, barrett/steyr sniper?/ Mechem NTW?, SRM Arms Model 1212/1216?, Remington MSR? and lots, lots more. :~P --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 17:04, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

This game is going to be worse than Crysis for people coming up with contrived "hybrid" explanations for the guns. That shotgun does look pretty close to a SRM Arms Model 1216 though, even looks like the player is correctly rotating the magazine very 4 shots, never thought I would see that in a game. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:25, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

i have played it safe and included the dsr-50 sniper rifle in the page, source= http://mp1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screen-Shot-2012-08-07-at-1.58.00-PM-600x331.png

yellow sniper looks like the Remington MSR, an Ashbury ASW338LM, or an FN SCAR - SSR Mk.20 Mod.0 / Sniper Support Rifle with modifications including bolt action.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 23:30, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

Looking through screenshots in this article: [url=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/362018/39-black-ops-2-multiplayer-screens-from-the-trailer/?page=1#top_banner] 
-LSAT LMG 
-AN-94 
-QCW-05 known as "Chicom QCB" 
-Kriss K-10 
-H&K XM8 is known as the "M8A1", this is very clearly seen in screencap 17. 
-"Ballista" bolt-action sniper in screencap 18- has an extremely similar first-person appearance to BF3's [[MKEK JNG-90]] 
-FN Mk.48 
-"PDW-5.7" in screencap 12, quite likely a [[P90]] variant, it looks like one, 50 round mag, plus the P90 is a PDW in 5.7 mm. Seen in pic 32 in 3rd person. 
-[[SRM Arms 1200 Series Shotguns|M1216 Shotgun]] 
-Taurus Raging Bull in screencap 12- distinctive sights and red backstrap. 
-Unknown in screencap 20 
-Screencap 25 is possibly also the "Ballista"? Looks similar but too small. 
[[User:ArrowTwoActual|ArrowTwoActual]] 13:13, 8 August 2012 (CDT)

It's the FN Ballista, a new-ish rifle designed to compete with the MSR--[[User:Recon42|Recon42]] 13:37, 8 August 2012 (CDT)

:Using steel torsion bar action and firing a 7.62mm log? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:51, 8 August 2012 (CDT)

::Thanks Recon42, I hadn't heard of the FN Ballista before. [[User:ArrowTwoActual|ArrowTwoActual]] 16:15, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
::: For future reference: [http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/family.asp?fid=FNF076&gid=FNG005 FNH USA's page on the Ballista].[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 12:36, 9 August 2012 (CDT)
::: [[:File:FNBallista.jpg|Image uploaded and ready for use.]] [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 12:43, 9 August 2012 (CDT)
This made me remember an interesting thing. I read Treyarch has said there will be no 1980's weapons in multiplayer, but yet the AN-94 is there. Is the information wrong or will the AN-94 not feature in the 80's?--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 11:49, 9 August 2012 (CDT)

So, Treyarch is copying BF3 and letting you use iron sights on the sniper rifles, maybe that means they can actually be used to kill people in this one, since long ranged scope rifles were never very practical in the tiny maps of the COD series. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 14:40, 9 August 2012 (CDT)

even though call of duty: world at war had unscoped sniper rifles and also, Battlefield copied call of duty with ELITE/PREMIUM service and Spec-Ops mode yet this doesn't help anyone. :~P --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 15:18, 9 August 2012 (CDT)

I'm not saying that BF doesn't copy COD, it does, I know that and everybody else knows that. I wasn't saying , "BF is better than COD, because BF is original." The only points I was trying to make was that due to the popularity of non-scoped sniper rifles in BF3, 3arc decided to add this feature and that sniper rifle were not useful in COD multiplayer. WAW didn't really have unscoped sniper rifles, they were infantry rifles that you could mount a scope on, it's the equivalent of putting a sniper scope on an assault rifle in a game that takes place in modern times. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 21:09, 9 August 2012 (CDT)

== Raging Judge model ==

I think the Raging Judge that they are basing their model on based on is this one:
[[File:Taurus Raging Judge XXVII.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Taurus Raging Judge - 28 gauge]]
This is chambered in 28 gauge shotshells (which is 13.97mm or .550in for those wondering) and was unveiled in 2011 but was blocked (for valid reasons in my opinion) by the BATFE so it never entered production. Despite this, the fact that the gun in the game has a five round unfluted cylinder as opposed to the 6 round fluted cylinder on the .454 production model indicates that this was their source material. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 15:42, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
:So, um...Were they trying to beat the Maadi-Griffin in the stupid handgun cartridge arms race? I'm calling it, someone's going to have made a handgun that fires 20mm Hispano by 2020. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:24, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
::"A Taurus Raging Judge, identifiable by the red stripe along the handle..." Doesn't the [[Taurus Raging Bull]] have the same stripe on the grips? Is there anything else to prove that this is a Raging Judge and not a Raging Bull? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 18:08, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
:::It does also say "Raging Judge" in the bottom right corner of the HUD. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:21, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
::::Well, that would do it then. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 18:24, 13 August 2012 (CDT)

== Weapons once the game is released ==

Once the game is released, and after a few days, the page is mostly completed, should we mention for the weapons which ones are based on the actual weapons, and which ones are just "futuristic" versions of the weapon. Anyone get what I'm saying.

Like the Chicom QCB, is that really a QCW-05, or is that a futuristic gun modeled after the QCW-05? I figure the TDI Kard is a TDI Kard, because it does't really need mocked up that much, since the real-life weapon looks futuristic already. - [[User:1morey]] August 14, 2012 12:03 PM (EST)

== Weapon selection video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fuba3mPotE

DSR-50 | SVU | Ballista

fictional M1216 | Saiga 12 | Remington M870 RCS

LSAT | QBB-95 | Mk48

Skorpion EVO A3

KARD | FNP-45 Tactical | Taurus | futurised M93R

M8A1 | SMR (futurised AUGA3?) | futurised Type 95 | SA58 | SIG556 | SCAR-H | AN-94

Milkor MGL | futurised Stinger | handheld GAU-19/A

A-10 | Commanche [[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 04:53, 15 August 2012 (CDT)

== B23-R Nomenclature ==

Could B23-R stand for " Beretta 2023 Raffica"? It's very similar to other Beretta pistols, so I guess that's a reasonable guess [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 18:42, 15 August 2012 (CDT)
:I don't think so, as to me I think it is a 1911 based pistol. The shaoe of the rear of the slide, the hammer and the trigger look very 1911-ish to me. Also, I just want to point out that the comment about the two ejection ports makes absolutely no sense. First off, I don't think it is a second ejection port, but is simply where the top of the slide has been removed showing the exposed barrel (think the Beretta 92 but with a bridge in front of the ejection area). Secondly, how would having an ejection port in front of another make it possible to eject the cartridges out the other side? The slide would have to travel back further to line the chamber up with this second ejection port for one thing which I can't see being possible. The layout of this gun is pretty standard so I don't think it will be doing anything crazy, and regardless this feature would have absolutely no utility or point in a game.

== M249 SAW and MK48 are the same ==

Look at the gas regulator plug of the so called M249 SAW. It is clearly from an Mk 48. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 17:17, 16 August 2012 (CDT)

== Can we PLEASE change it? ==

Could we please get rid of the two ejection ports bullshit from the B23-R section of the page? [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] 17:45, 16 August 2012 (CDT)

:If you want to change it, then change it. I doubt anyone is going to argue with you. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 17:59, 16 August 2012 (CDT)

::Hm, looks like someone already did. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] 18:37, 16 August 2012 (CDT)

== AN-94 ==
I like the comment under the pic of the AN-94 reloading that says it has 5.56 rounds in the mag, so it could be a fictional export version. It could be, OR more reasonably, the developers decided to ignore the calibers and modeled the same cartridges in all of the assault rifles' magazines. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:51, 4 September 2012 (CDT)
:It's the later. And even if it happens to be the former, I doubt they would care enough to give an explanation ingame. But they stopped caring about these 'tiny details' a long time ago.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 13:52, 4 September 2012 (CDT)
::Yeah, it seems they are so many overspeculations on this page, like the how it says the B-23 is possibly a Beretta. Why, because it has the letter B, it doesn't really look like any Beretta design. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 14:43, 4 September 2012 (CDT)
:::To be honest, in my opinion the 'B23R' doesn't actually resemble, outside of it's name, any real specific pistol. It's just a chimera of different futuristic parts that fulfills the same gameplay niche as the Beretta 93R from the previous tittles.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 15:00, 4 September 2012 (CDT)

== Beta leak ==

I know it can't be used on the main page, but for those who are planning on playing the game and are curious about the weapons, 7 new ones were found in the leaked beta build, [http://videobam.com/RHFxv here's a video of them.] --[[User:Ghostdigga|Ghostdigga]] ([[User talk:Ghostdigga|talk]]) 21:20, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

Ahh, the return of select-fire. Missed it from the original COD and the United Offensive expansion. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 07:52, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

Text confirms that the Taurus does actually fire the 28 gauge shotgun shells it is meant to. This surprises me, I assumed they just based the model on the wrong image. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:38, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

m27 iar, scar type lmg, and i would say the rpg was airtronic due to this pic:
look at the solider on the left

http://cdn.medialib.oxm.co.uk/screens/screenshot_30711.jpg
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] ([[User talk:Pistolpete|talk]]) 09:47, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== H&K m27 ==

On the cod wikia i found the m27 i know the hk416 m27 variant so i identified it as the actual m27 no real modification to make it look futuristic their calling it an assault rifle (facepalm) there's a picture on there I don't know to upload pictures on here though.--[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 18:45, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
:Eh, if they're using an M27 with a 30-rounder and calling it an AR I wouldn't really call that wrong per se, since the M27 is only a SAW because the USMC is issuing it as one (much like the QJY-88 is issued as a GPMG even though it's actually an LMG). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:00, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, I agree, and most Marines that were issued it are using it as an AR, apparently, because it essentially is. Also, person above Evil Tim, please sign your name by pressing the signature button at the top or putting four of this: ~ after your name. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 10:18, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
::: Yeah sorry i need to remember that i know how to do just forgot but i also facepalmed but its not a 30 round capacity i found that out it appears to be but its going to have a 50 round capacity granted there are 50 round AR mags but still combined with extended clip and all that other COD BS it might as well be an LMG. --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 18:45, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
:::: New footage of the m27 in the zombies gameplay trailer on top on a bus also new footage of the m1216 and the pdw 57 and what appear to be the tar 21 or QBZ-97 in the video --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 20:25, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

can no one on this website actually read properly, look at the last comment before this m27 section and read what it says please

Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-09-22T13:47:16Z

Pistolpete:

Talk:Sleeping Dogs

2012-08-28T13:55:13Z

Pistolpete:

=Commercial=
==Beretta 92FS Inox==
The [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Berreta 92 FS Inox]] was used by Wei Shen to kill multiple triad members while trying to get a suitcase in the Live-action trailer.
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:Johnwoo46.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Image of Wei Shen's Beretta in his waistband.]]
[[File:Johnwoo45.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A triad member takes Wei Shen's gun only to be stabbed by a knife.]]
[[File:Johnwoo48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A triad member takes Wei Shen's gun only to be stabbed by a knife.]]
[[File:Johnwoo52.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wei Shen kicking knife into triads chest.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]] was used by Wei Shen and multiple triad members during the live-action trailer.
[[File:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5KN - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Johnwoo49.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Triad Members wait for Wei Shen to come out of kitchen with his hostage.]]
[[File:Johnwoo47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Triad Members hold guns to Wei Shen and his hostage.]]
[[File:Johnwoo51.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wei Shen shoots at Police with an MP5K.]]

==Unknown Pistol==
The unknown pistol is used by a few triad members. Wei Shen grabs it from one of them and then uses it until he runs out of ammo.
[[File:Johnwoo50.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Discussion=
== Commercial? ==

I'm not totally 100% sure that this page should stay up because these live action screenshots are from a trailer to the videogame and not actual gameplay. This was similar to the elaborate commercial for [[Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3|Modern Warfare 3]], but those screenshots were just added to the discussion page and not on the main game page. I would welcome some more opinions on this. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:45, 24 March 2012 (CDT)
:Take these shots away and the page is empty. This is basically a page for a commercial at this point, as there is NOTHING here that's actually related to the game. We can move the code to the discussion page, delete the main page, and if it gets recreated, the discussion page will still be here. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:02, 27 March 2012 (CDT)

There is already a gameplay trailer out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MBFOidzHOo --[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 03:03, 24 March 2012 (CDT)

Game's been out for at least a day now. If anyone has caps, feel free to remake the page and get them up. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 20:48, 15 August 2012 (CDT)

== Unknown Pistol ==
The unknown pistol is probably P226 or P228. [[User:Littlesoldier1|Littlesoldier1]] 08:45, 24 March 2012 (CDT)

== Redone ==

Missing: Assault Rifle w/ Grenade Launcher, HKPD sidearm, pump shotgun, semi-automatic shotgun and an image of the SMG. Since all weapons appear to be modifications of existing designs this page will need a lot of additional details added. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 03:39, 22 August 2012 (CDT)

k, here are some Frankenguns for you to pick apart:

[[File:Sleeping Dogs - GrenadeRifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Assault Rifle w/ grenade launcher]]
[[File:Sleeping Dogs - Auto 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Riot Shotgun, a [[Valtro PM5 Shotgun|PM5]] on crack.]]
:Maybe a [[Hawk_shotgun_series#Hawk_Semi-Auto|Hawk Semi-Auto]] tactical shotgun? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:02, 22 August 2012 (CDT)
:[[File:Hawk-Semiauto.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hawk Semi-Auto Tactical - 12 Gauge]]

:: Nice catch. The only difference is the stock and the back of the receiver. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 10:12, 22 August 2012 (CDT)

:: Added it, will need to write a more detailed description, though. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 10:39, 22 August 2012 (CDT)

I think the Assault Rifle is the a QBZ-95 with a custom body shroud, and the main pistol is the QSZ-92 pistol. google and weep?
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 18:45, 27 August 2012 (CDT)

:I don't see the QSZ-92 in the game's pistol at all. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 20:29, 27 August 2012 (CDT)

HEY!! be nice, just remember there is not just one pistol in the game there are 3.

I think the Assault rifle is based off an L85A2, it looks similar to it with a 40mm forend as well as the charging handle, possibly mixed with a TAR-21 Flat Top because of the trigger guard covering the whole hand and the upper receiver looks similar--[[User:Recon42|Recon42]] 08:22, 28 August 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Sleeping Dogs

2012-08-27T23:45:58Z

Pistolpete: /* Redone */

Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-08-10T01:08:06Z

Pistolpete:

Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-08-09T20:18:46Z

Pistolpete:

'''MAIN PAGE CONTENT NOTE: Only ''officially released'' images will be permitted. Leaked images, even if publicised elsewhere, are not permitted. This rule is not negotiable.'''

'''TALK PAGE CONTENT NOTE: Do not post lists of weapons you hope to see in the game. They will be deleted.'''

== The Newest Joke? ==
Why put up a IMFDB page of this game when it looks clearly like a waste of money

Because I am loking forward to this game, and cheevo hunting. Besides I am the only biotic organism that plays CoD for the SP and not the multi (well, except for split-screening with my girlfriend). Anyways, I like Call of Duty, and I think this will be cool, and I cannot wait to see what new weapons they will have. - [[User:1morey]] May 6, 2012 8:58 AM (EST)

Because we hate you, that's why. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:44, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

:And ''he sucks'' and we hate him. :P [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:30, 9 June 2012 (CDT)

Sorry [[User:1morey|1morey]], but you are not the only "biotic organism" who buy CoD only for the SP campaign XD [[User:Lone Soldier|Lone Soldier]]

I too like to play CoD single player campaigns. I dabbled a little in MP here and there, but don't really understand what all the fuss is about. If only the developers put in as much time and effort into the SP nowadays, like they used too :( --[[User:Ultimagameboy|Ultimagameboy]] 19:12, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

== XM8? ==
http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070805.jpg

Weapon in the pic looks like a modified XM8 [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Looks like the hybrid ACR from RE6 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:31, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Looks to just be like a space gun... It "resembles" a XM8 and an ACR, but looks like the SCAR from Crysis. It's just a future weapon. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 16:40, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

To be more specific,it appears to be the Malaysian variant of the XM8,the Malaysian variant has no built in scope like on the ones designed for the U.S Army,but a rail instead.however it has extra features of weapons such as the ACR, which Treyarch probably to give their own artistic touch to make it look unique and futuristic.[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 22:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

In the description, someone wrote that it is based on the M41A1 pulse rifle from Aliens. How? Why? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:52, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

== Future Warfare ==
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070805.jpg
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-074340.jpg
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070746.jpg
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-065949.jpg

The game is set in near future, rumours say it's in 2027. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

That's what we've been needing. More future crap. ~ACE

Call Of Recon: Ghost Ops --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Well, I've given up on the series now that being on top of five grenades when they go off doesn't kill people.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

:Givern how CoD does with real weapons, watching them making up weapons should be eight kinds of hilarious. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:10, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

its been confirmed to be set in the year 2025,i would imagine a mixture of real weapons,and Treyarch-created mashups will be included[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 22:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

As long as we get (have) to shoot hundreds of rounds full auto at each quadrupedal robot it will apparently be awesome. I hope bullets have no effect on enemies until they suddenly die also. ~ACE

:I don't know, as long as the robots acknowledge being hit, a linebreaker enemy that stops you getting bogged down in one place can be good. ''Resistance: Fall of Man'' had enemies which would use their superior hitpoints (3+ headshots on normal for grunts with the basic rifles) to advance under fire while firing from the hip, which meant they ''didn't'' have to spam grenades at you constantly to stop you staying in one place (also they had Steelheads with guns that shot through walls to help them with that). It actually made the firefights rather more interesting than the headshot = dead standard. Though they at least reacted to being shot (flinched but kept running), it wasn't like ''STALKER'' where enemies were either alive or dead and wouldn't acknowledge any state in between (which in ''Clear Sky'' where they jacked up Bloodsucker HP ridiculously meant you weren't actually sure you were even hurting them).

:In general enemy variety is a huge weakness for modern shooters, since almost everything is 'man with gun.' If they do this ''right'' it could actually have far more varied firefights. Or they'll just have it invincible until you find the glowing rocket launcher Private Dies In An Inconvenient Place dropped, which seems more likely all things considered. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:04, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

::Dual wielding Javelins. ~ACE

== Come On ==

There is NOTHING warranting a page for this yet. All of you fanboys need to drop your cocks and have a little patience. Would any IMFDB mods put up with this for any other page or project with the same amount of leaked content, being 1, maybe 2 usable pictures? No way; this whole thing strikes me as ridiculous. If there's nothing concrete worth putting on the main page, stick to the Treyarch forums. It's insane how quickly the COD community jumped onto it on IMFDB. It's fucking preposterous to discuss ONE PICTURE for a WHOLE GAME THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED YET. Please, fanboys, calm down, and don't get ahead of yourselves. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 16:38, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Finally someone who agrees with me. --[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]

I can't disagree [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:18, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

The game has been officially announced, there are several pictures on CallofDuty.com --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 17:47, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Plus, a trailer is coming out today [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 18:29, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Trailer released, and I can already see inclusions in the form of the M249. --[[User:Jusuchin|Jusuchin]] 19:21, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer Weapon Spots ==

Weapon spots from the trailer that I found in the new trailer: at 0:30 there is a M134 Minigun (future-ized) mounted on a four legged combat drone, 0:43 there is a tank drone that appears to have a Metal Storm weapon mounted on its left (our right), 1:09 there is a future pistol (seems unrelated to any real world firearm), 1:11 there is a future-ized XM8, 1:18 there is an M16 (which model can't tell though length suggest it is a full length barrel and has 20 round magazine), 1:27 there what appears to be an M249 SAW (or M240), 1:31 there is a soldier with a balaclava firing a bullpup short barreled weapon that bears resemblance to the QBZ-95, at 1:31 or 1:32 (very easy to miss) there is a soldier being blown away holding an AK variant and by the looks of the handguard and flash hider it is an AN-94, at 1:34 in horseback solders are armed with WWII bolt action rifles, at 1:36 the technical is armed with a Dshk hmg, 1:44 hard to make out but rider on the right has an AK pattern weapon, likely an AK-47 since it looks like the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, 1:48 unknown shotgun. That's all I found for now. --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 21:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)
:I have an intuition that the M16 might (and I have empathize this, ''might'') be an A1 variant or a faux XM16 judging solely from silhouette of the upper receiver. The SAW apparently has an Mk 48 Mod 1 styled heat shield and handguard but that doesn't really mean anything, considering how the franchise loves to mix and match different variants. Weapon at 1:32, on the other hand, is ''definitely'' an AN-94. At least in aesthetic terms.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 01:03, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:: Isn't it "Kriss USA" instead of "TDI" now?[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 08:04, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:::Possibly, but KRISS ALLCAPS TACTICOOL ARMS is a stupid title and they were TDI first. They only changed it because they've belatedly discovered the mil-spec subgun market is a ghost town if you're not an MP5 and they're only ever going to sell Vectors to mall ninjas. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

==Designated Arguing/Complaining Area==
Before this discussion page turns to chaos like all the other CoD talk pages, let's open up a designated complaint zone. I know many people want to offer their negative opinions about the game, so if you don't have any real discussion topics please post in subheadings here. Hopefully this will allow people who want to actually discuss the game rather than arguing or whining to avoid these comments and have an actual discussion.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:51, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

===What is this going to be like===
I have looked at the trailer several times. This is how I think the games success is going to be. A: It will be a huge hit and sell millions of copies like all other COD games or B: It is going to be a complete and total disaster and there will never be another COD game made again in our lifetimes. I find from what I learned from the plot line details that has been released that it is going to feature what the first Black Ops did, except that the flashbacks will be set in the 1980's and the present 2025. I am wondering how Treyarch is going to do that. This will be a very curious COD game that I will be wondering about UNTIL it comes out.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:58, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

===Wow...===
I'll start off by saying the obvious- this game looks stupid. I mean, why jump from the 60's to the 2020's? I could see the futuristic idea that they were trying for, but this looks like a Ghost Recon rip-off. I have just lost what little respect I had for Treyarch. As more details become availiable, I might change my mind, but first impressions are not good. As with any game, if it is fun I will play it.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:51, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

I've lost respect for the Call of Duty franchise after Infinity Ward broke up [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

After at least one failed Soviet aggression in the late 60s, failed invasion of the Eastcoast US, ''failed'' (third time's the charm, right?) invasion of continental Europe within the last three games alone, you'd think the US at least would just get used to getting attacked on a major scale by this point.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 01:09, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:Well they have, it's pretty clear from MW2 that Russia tries to nuke the US so often in this universe that they didn't even bother with a counter-launch since that would just encourage them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:11, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I can't believe how generic they managed to make their new take on the series. Evil robots, mechs on four legs and choppers with unnecesserly many features. It's basically the same as every futuristic game. On top of it the game looks awful, name doesn't make sense, it looks more over-the-top than MW3. Could Treyarch have mistaken May 1 for April 1? This either is a joke, or will become one.--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 05:46, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

What the hell were Treyarch thinking? I was seriously hoping too see what happened to Hudson, Weaver and Mason in Operation Charybdis and maybe if we would get to see how Price started his career. It is often better to go back to basics than too go forward complications. [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
:What made you so sure that Price was going to be in this game?[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:45, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:Modern Warfare is set in a different continuity, and they even wanted to spin it off into an entirely separate franchise. The Call of Duty label was stuck on by Activision as a way of marketing it. Price won't be appearing because he doesn't exist. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 22:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:From what I've read on CoD wiki and heard, 1/3 of the game will take place in the 80s and the rest in 2025--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 09:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

: @ The Wierd It - the 'intel' at the ending of the final story mission of Black Ops suggest that Mason is being hunted by an SAS team in South Africa lead by a young operative called 'Jonathan' which many people have taken to mean a very young Captain Price [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]
::I think it's very unlikely that they'll have any crossovers between the WaW/BO and MW universes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:47, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
::I know that. I'm wondering where the leap in logic came that took people from one of the more common first names in the English language to "this is obviously meant to be Price". [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 15:36, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:::Well, it's positively rational compared to the kind of logical gymnastics that some rumour threads get. "I performed a series of random mathematical actions on this Valve press release and made the number 3! Episode 3 confirmed!" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 15:59, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
The first thing I thought when I saw the trailer was that this game was CoD attempting to piggyback on the whole idea of Metal Gear Solid 4. Then I saw the horse sequences and realized I was actually watching an Uncharted 3 trailer. --[[User:K|K]] 19:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I honestly like the way it's going now. I liked Black Ops better than Modern Warfare because it went to a setting not commonly covered (especially in big-budget titles) and had some more interesting segments than just running through an urban environment shooting dozens of AK-toting terrorists or Russians. I'm interested in seeing how Black Ops II progresses now that they're able to create their own technology (no worries of anachronisms or errors). It's a refreshing change of pace from generic World War II and modern day "realistic" shooters. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 22:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

@ The Wierd It - Ok mate, fair enough I might have jumped the gun. But on what we know from the intel in Black Ops and the character of Price in the MW franchise, ("promising SAS solider named Jonathan" also referred to as Price in the french Black Ops) - basing it on that knowledge, see why I jumped the gun? However, they brought Woods back for this one, when we were all sure he was dead, what's too say a very young Price won't be featuring in this game? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:I still love COD4, great game, but now I refuse to play anything after it. I did play through MW3's story to see the ending, and the MW series' ''story'' is pretty good, but the 2 and 3's gameplay is soooooo bad. In every single mission except one, you start with a reflex sight on your gun in MW3. The other mission you have a pistol. I'm gonna follow this page just to see how bad they can make it. I find it really funny how Halo and Mass Effect have guns (and tech) that are more realistic than MW2/BO/MW3/BO2. Hell, not just more realistic, Halo and ME's weapons ''actually make sense''. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:23, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

It looks like the US got some help from the Combine with those 4 propeller gunships they have. Maybe we might see an AR1 or a Strider? :D [[User:Lurker McNasty|Lurker McNasty]] 22:12, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

===My two cents on the matter===
Ok... well, first off, I'll admit that I am a fan of CoD. But from the first glance of this trailer, I think that Activision needs it's old management back, and fire the current management along with Robert Kotick.

Seriously Robert? This is what Black Ops II is going to be? A pseudo-futuristic first person shooter with player-driven choices thrown into the mix?

I was expecting that the next Call of Duty was going to be the inevitable Black Ops II (and if not that, then maybe something different for a change like making the game about a war that many people have forgotten about, like World War I or the Korean War, cause World War II and Vietnam get WAY too much attention). but I was expecting it to dive into details about Black Ops operations in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s when the United States got involved in conflicts during those years AFTER the Vietnam war (a.k.a., Grenada, Panama, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Gulf War I, Bosnian conflicts, etc.). But really, THIS is the best idea that your workers came up with? Some cyberwar between China and the United States?

Ok, from what I've read, there will be some throwbacks to the 1980s in this game, but adding in player-driven choices which affect the outcome of the game is a bad idea. I play Call of Duty for mindless entertainment and for shooting things, not to play over and over for making different moral decisions every time to get all the endings of the game! If I wanted a first person shooter with that theme, I'd go play Fallout 3. (Speaking of which, do you think we're really that stupid to notice that you guys stole "The Vault" name?)
: A video game uses the word "Vault" to refer to a location. Must have been stolen from Fallout, since they invented....the English language? [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

As for the weapons... you guys do realize that MANY of these weapons are either still on the drawing board, in the prototype stages, canceled (*cough* XM8 *cough*), or being tested in LIMITED numbers, and that we might not be seeing ANY of them in any future war by the year 2025... right?

it isn't even an xm8, i don't know how it could be a wrong choice for a gun if the gun itself isn't actually a real concept of any kind, its just a futuristic-looking gun designed by treyarch, and what would firing bobby kotick actually do it wouldn't change any of the games because he doesn't make any desicions regarding them, he worries about the money side e.g. the budget, the advertisement.
also the creators of fallout didn't actually invent the word vault so i don't really know what the pointless rant was for.--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 02:48, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

In the game it's called an M8A1. It's definitely the XM8. It's Treyarch doing what they do. Being creative with things that shouldn't have creativity added. [[User:DJCDavisDubstep|DJCDavisDubstep]] 16:25, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Well... maybe I might give this game a chance when it comes out. But seriously, if this is what all future Call of Duty games are going to follow from this point onward, then I will stick with the older ones instead. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 22:20, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

Hey, thanks to the video game industry, one would think that there may be a chance that the project will get cancelled like many games before it... unfortunately since the Call Of Duty franchise pops out games like a mother rabbit the future seems bleak...
--[[User:Mikethepanda|Mikethepanda]] 01:44, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

I'm pretty sure the game will still have all the mindless shooter nonsense that makes them millions and spawns dozens of poor imitations, but the addition of branching storylines and sandbox gameplay at least makes things more interesting. The Call of Duty formula stagnated with Modern Warfare 2, as it showed that it was little more than repeating the same basic formula with minor changes that add less new content than the average DLC pack. Black Ops at least tried to break from the mold a bit with the helicopter sequences (a throwback to the old games' vehicle segments) and the protagonist not suddenly losing his voice when you look through his eyes. I'm proud of Treyarch for trying to actually do something different and make an interesting game instead of following Infinity Ward and Activision's lead and just making a clone of Black Ops with some new weapons and tweaking the multiplayer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

== M16A1? ==

Link to image

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also the futuristic M4: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120502191412/callofduty/images/5/53/20120502-084241.jpg

The 'futuristic' M4 in the link above appears to be based upon the GR4 G26 airsoft rifle manufactured by Guay & Guay. Shown here for comparison: http://www.titano-shopping.com/immagini/Prodotti/Big/GR4_G26_DST

Yes it looks like that... It's not the first time CoD takes from airosft the looks for the guns

I wouldn't be surprised if they just used that futuristic looking gun for the photoshoot for the poster and it doesn't appear at all in the game itself. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:32, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

All those links are broken. Also I saw the recent trailer and the sillohuotte images of the M16 does look like an A1 from the handguard but the pop up trailer on gametrailers.com called it a classic M4 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:51, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

:Classic? It was an M4 before there were any M4s. That's a hipster M4 if there ever was one... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 02:43, 5 May 2012 (CDT)

== Rename ==

Shouldn't the page be renamed to "Call of Duty: Black Ops II". With the Roman numerals, because that's what all official material lists it as. - [[User:1morey]] May 5, 2012 8:59 AM (EST)

:Naw, since that would put it out of order when they inevitably make Black Ops 3. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:08, 6 May 2012 (CDT)

::A note could be made in the first paragraph though. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:36, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

== AK variant during horse scene ==

Recently revealed production images of Black Ops 2 not only show how seriously Treyarch is taking the precise animation of horses but also that the AK variants they are carrying are actually mo-capped TOYS:
http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/05/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-II-Horse-Motion-Capture-2.jpg

:Ha, that's the most obvious airsoft horse I've ever seen. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:40, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

== Bulldog Assault Rifle ==

Trailer from BO2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr0Z3RsOmlo

looks like the assault rifle from distric 9 use by the bad guys

:Looks like a futuristic QB rifle variant to me.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 06:34, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

::The name "Type 25" has been mentioned. Could that be it?

:::Most likely is. In fact, it almost definitely is, but we can't actually confirm that until the game comes out. Also, remember to sign your posts. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 05:46, 12 June 2012 (CDT)

== Preview ==

A preview mentions the Type 95 and Keltec KSG by name. Will wait for screens.
http://www.nowgamer.com/xbox-360/xbox-360-previews/1388343/black_ops_2_campaign_eyeson_with_two_levels_protect_potus_singapore.html

Well hopefully it's the real Type 95 and not the Type 97 misnamed [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:20, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

== Black Ops 2 Behind the Scenes E3 trailer ==

The new Behind the Scenes BO2 trailer released at E3 shows a couple of guns, most notably a sniper rifle at 3:18
Link to trailer: http://youtu(dot)be/GElKpJLvKLc
:2:08, what looks like a Galil SAR, 2:41, possible MM1 grenade launcher [[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 05:37, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

In another behind the scenes trailer, there's a KRISS Vector.--[[User:Mikethepanda|Mikethepanda]] 15:03, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

== There's a reason the Vector is called a K10 ==

Apparently, at SHOT Show 2011, a newer, improved, slightly more compact variant of the Vector with a telescoping stock was revealed, called the K10.
Here's the source:
:http://www.defensereview.com/kriss-k10-super-v-vector-xsmg-submachine-gun-smg-product-improvedupgraded-multi-caliber-subgun-for-special-operations-forces-sof-and-close-quarters-battle-cqb-applications-shot-show-2011-phot/

It does look slightly different from the Vector, though:
:http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/KRISS_K10_.45ACP_Submachine_Gun_1.jpg
:http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/KRISS_K10_.45ACP_Submachine_Gun_2.jpg
--[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 9:45, 6 July 2012 (PST)

== LAPD Shotgun ==

I don't really think that we can call the fact that the LAPD officers are using the KSG incorrect, since the game takes place in the future. Apparently in the time the game takes place, we will have flying, fighting robots, so it's not too hard to imagine that the LAPD could have switched shotguns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 11:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 9:48, 6 July 2012 (PST)

::Well after talking to some cops, it really depends on the department to say what an officer can have in his car. A lot can get their own personal shotguns in their car after qualifying with it. Not sure about a KSG, but it's possible if approved [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:22, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:::Yeah, it would probably be even more likely to be in use since the game takes place in the future. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 4:25, 10 July 2012 (PST)

== The Unknown Shotgun ==

The unknown shotgun is actually the Storm PSR (the ridiculous X-Ray Railgun thing), if you look closely at Harper's vest the white dot is from the scope, and it's also been stated by Treyarch that the Storm PSR has three barrels.... --[[User:Ghostdigga|Ghostdigga]] 21:20, 6 July 2012 (CDT)

== Gameplay footage ==

Well folks, here's a video from E3 showcasing the extended gameplay of Black Ops 2, and what might be expected in the game when it's released: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTtsn2Srm3E] --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 18:44, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

== AN-94 in segment taking place in the 80's? ==

It seems to me that part of the trailer the AN-94 appears in takes place in one of the 80's segments of the game. I shouldn't be surprised, but seriously, this seems like an even bigger anachronism than usual, even though it's not. Anyone else thinking the same? --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 2:57, 10 July 2012 (PST)

:You never know just because it was seen in the desert doesn't mean its in the 80's segment of the game.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]

::That's not what I meant, I just meant if it was part of the main 2025 story line of the game, there probably would have been '''some''' kind of future technology. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 3:14, 10 July 2012 (PST)

Oh yeah, it'll be anachronistic, no doubts there. This is Treyarch, after all. Do you think you'll be seeing anything (non-explosive) from the 20th Century in the future setting? I don't.--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 18:28, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, I have no doubt there'll be TONS of anachronisms in the 80's parts. I think the QBZ-97 was in the future part, so that's one thing from the 20th century in the future setting. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 4:41, 10 July 2012 (PST)

::I did not see it, are you talking about the fictional Type 25, or did i miss it?--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 18:46, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:::Go on the page, there'll be a QBZ-97, and then it'll say "Type 25" somewhere else on the page. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 5:24, 10 July 2012 (PST)

==SCAR-L :)==

http://k31.kn3.net/D8EA00866.png

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QP3_8y8uzk

:I'm afraid the picture link doesn't work, but the rifle that appears 1:45 is most definitely a SCAR-H. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 13:05, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

== IMFDB's Fault ==

Does anyone think that the fact that this game takes place in the future is partly our (IMFDB's users) fault. I bet someone working for Treyarch saw the IMFDB page for Black Ops and how the anachronistic guns are criticized, and thought, "We're anachronistic, are we? Well let's see about being anachronistic when the game takes place over a decade in the future!" --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:46, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

That's.... something to think about for awhile and if they did then either 3arc will be more accurate with the guns or make the guns worst than the first time.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 12:52, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

I don't know why it's such a big deal to everyone, just treat the "game" as a "game" and play it; there are too many over-opinionated comments with the words I DON'T LIKE IT, WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE IT LIKE I WANTED IT!!! WAAAAHHH
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 16:52, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

To be fair you do know where you are right? [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 17:12, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

Nah, I highly doubt that anyone at Treyarch or Activision has taken the time to read up about their videogames being featured on this site, and the legit or unnecessary complaints people have made about their past games. IMFDB has been a growing name in the film industry for a while now and this site is often browsed and looked into by those who have made or acted in the films featured on here and many of the administrators (the ones who work in the industry) can vouch for that. But for the gaming industry viewing our site? That's kinda hard to tell or to prove because we really don't have any members on here who work in the gaming industry (although I could be wrong) who can vouch for that. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 18:44, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

You do realize that I meant this as a joke, right? --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 18:07, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

"But for the gaming industry viewing our site? That's kinda hard to tell or to prove because we really don't have any members on here who work in the gaming industry (although I could be wrong) who can vouch for that."

I see where you're getting at, but I want to make a point. I was hoping for a bunch of weapons to be in CoJ 3. And more than a handful of them were in the game (or a variant of the weapon). Just to make this clear, I am an admin for the CoJ Wiki, and we have connections to Techland. And I had posted links to the IMFDB CoJ pages on the fan page for CoJ on Facebook (Which Techland frequents).
I was hoping for a Skorpion, Benelli M4, SW Model 29, FN FAL, M72 LAW, and FN Five-seveN. They were in the game.
I was hoping for a Uzi (Instead, a Mini Uzi), A Sig-Sauer (Instead a SIG Mosquito), Remington 700 ( Instead a Remington M24), MP5 variant (The game had a MP5A2), AR-15 variant (The game had a HK416), Mossberg 500 variant (The game had a Mossberg 500A Field Gun). Now I'm not saying Techland read the page and said "Ph hey, this 1morey guy wants to see these weapons, let's answer his request." That's not what I am saying at all, but I wouldn't doubt they read the page, and used the list as "inspiration". Another user had wanted a Steyr AUG A3. That was a cut weapon.

Anyways, back on topic. I don't doubt some video game companies use this site as inspiration, but if I had to pick one, I would say Infinity Ward, EA, and Treyarch probably don't look at this site at all, I think they just watch a bunch of movies, or see what other games have. - [[User:1morey]] August 7, 2012 3:10 PM (EST)
I mean if this isn't a coincidence, I don't know what is.

== Multiplayer Reveal Trailer ==

The new trailer for the multiplayer of BO2 just went up, showing a plethora of new weapons: -killerkirill, 19:13 GMT, 07/08/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrOpWYsp3L8&feature=g-u-u

:Well, the good thing at least is that the main page will be considerably shorter and easier to maintain. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 14:28, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

Taurus Raging Bull/Dan Wesson???, barrett/steyr sniper?/ Mechem NTW?, SRM Arms Model 1212/1216?, Remington MSR? and lots, lots more. :~P --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 17:04, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

This game is going to be worse than Crysis for people coming up with contrived "hybrid" explanations for the guns. That shotgun does look pretty close to a SRM Arms Model 1216 though, even looks like the player is correctly rotating the magazine very 4 shots, never thought I would see that in a game. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:25, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

i have played it safe and included the dsr-50 sniper rifle in the page, source= http://mp1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screen-Shot-2012-08-07-at-1.58.00-PM-600x331.png

yellow sniper looks like the Remington MSR, an Ashbury ASW338LM, or an FN SCAR - SSR Mk.20 Mod.0 / Sniper Support Rifle with modifications including bolt action.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 23:30, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

Looking through screenshots in this article: [url=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/362018/39-black-ops-2-multiplayer-screens-from-the-trailer/?page=1#top_banner] 
-LSAT LMG 
-AN-94 
-QCW-05 known as "Chicom QCB" 
-Kriss K-10 
-H&K XM8 is known as the "M8A1", this is very clearly seen in screencap 17. 
-"Ballista" bolt-action sniper in screencap 18- has an extremely similar first-person appearance to BF3's [[MKEK JNG-90]] 
-FN Mk.48 
-"PDW-5.7" in screencap 12, quite likely a [[P90]] variant, it looks like one, 50 round mag, plus the P90 is a PDW in 5.7 mm. Seen in pic 32 in 3rd person. 
-[[SRM Arms 1200 Series Shotguns|M1216 Shotgun]] 
-Taurus Raging Bull in screencap 12- distinctive sights and red backstrap. 
-Unknown in screencap 20 
-Screencap 25 is possibly also the "Ballista"? Looks similar but too small. 
[[User:ArrowTwoActual|ArrowTwoActual]] 13:13, 8 August 2012 (CDT)

It's the FN Ballista, a new-ish rifle designed to compete with the MSR--[[User:Recon42|Recon42]] 13:37, 8 August 2012 (CDT)

:Using steel torsion bar action and firing a 7.62mm log? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:51, 8 August 2012 (CDT)

::Thanks Recon42, I hadn't heard of the FN Ballista before. [[User:ArrowTwoActual|ArrowTwoActual]] 16:15, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
::: For future reference: [http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/family.asp?fid=FNF076&gid=FNG005 FNH USA's page on the Ballista].[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 12:36, 9 August 2012 (CDT)
::: [[:File:FNBallista.jpg|Image uploaded and ready for use.]] [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 12:43, 9 August 2012 (CDT)
This made me remember an interesting thing. I read Treyarch has said there will be no 1980's weapons in multiplayer, but yet the AN-94 is there. Is the information wrong or will the AN-94 not feature in the 80's?--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 11:49, 9 August 2012 (CDT)

So, Treyarch is copying BF3 and letting you use iron sights on the sniper rifles, maybe that means they can actually be used to kill people in this one, since long ranged scope rifles were never very practical in the tiny maps of the COD series. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 14:40, 9 August 2012 (CDT)

and Battlefield copied call of duty with ELITE and Spec-Ops mode yet this doesn't help anyone. :~P --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 15:18, 9 August 2012 (CDT)

Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-08-08T13:17:25Z

Pistolpete:

{{Upcoming}}

[[Image:Black-ops2_Logo.jpg‎|thumb|300px|right|''Call of Duty: Black Ops 2'' (2012)]]

'''''Call of Duty: Black Ops 2''''' is the latest installment in the ''Call of Duty'' franchise that is currently in development by Treyarch and set for release on November 13, 2012. Despite what the name suggest this new title appears to not be a direct sequel to the first ''[[Black Ops]]'' as it takes place in the future in the year 2025, although some parts will take place in the Proxy Wars of the 1980s.

The game was officially revealed through a reveal trailer that debuted on May 1, 2012.

The following guns and pictures are taken from the official reveal trailer.

'''The following weapons are seen in the video game ''Call of Duty: Black Ops 2'':'''
__TOC__ 

= Pistols =
== TDI Kard ==
David Mason is seen loading a handgun that appears to be based off the [[TDI Kard]] pistol while inside a vehicle. Another soldier is seen firing a similar pistol. It is called the KAP-40 in the E3 demo.

[[File:KRISS KARD.jpg|thumb|none|350px|TDI Kard - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Blackops2 hanguns.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Side-view as the pistol is loaded.]]
[[Image:Blackops2 HangunSlide.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close-up of the slide and the Glock style sights.]]
[[File:TDIKardReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|TDI Kard reload action]]

== Unknown M1911 Variant ==
A nickel plated [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] is briefly seen in the holster of a soilder in the reveal trailer.

[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 Pistol with brown grips - .45 ACP]]
[[File:M1911 Holstered BO2.jpg|thumb|350px|none|The Nickel Plated M1911 circled in red.]]

== Unknown Pistol ==
An unknown pistol was seen in the reveal trailer that is said to be a [[FN Five-seveN]].

[[File:BO2UnknownPistol.jpg|thumb|350px|none|]]

= Submachine guns =
==QCW-05==

The [[QCW-05]] appearing as the Chicom QCB was first seen in the Los Angeles Gameplay Trailer.

[[File:Type-05.jpg|thumb|350px|none|QCW-05 - 5.8x21mm DCV05]]
[[File:ChicomBO2.jpg|thumb|350px|none|The QCW-05 in first person.]]
[[File:Chicom QCB pick-up BOII.jpg|thumb|350px|none|The QCW-05's HUD icon.]]

==TDI Vector==
The [[TDI Vector]] is expected to return from [[Modern Warfare 2]], now called the '''Vector K10'''. It also has a black finish as opposed to the tan finish from MW2.

[[File:KrissSuperV.jpg|thumb|400px|none|TDI Vector SMG - .45 ACP]]

==Uzi==
The [[Uzi]] can be seen during the Behind the Scenes video.

[[File:Uzi.jpg|thumb|350px|none|IMI Uzi with buttstock collapsed - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UziBOII.jpg|thumb|350px|none|A Panamanian Defense Force soldier with his Uzi.]]

= Assault Rifles =
== AK Variant ==
During the horse riding (Yes, horse riding) sequence of the first trailer, a rider can be seen gripping an unknown [[AK-47|AK variant]]. On a closer examination of the screenshot, the proportions of the AK's magazine and lack of flash hider seem to imply it's a same WASR-2 inspired conglomerate as is the one in the first game

[[File:WASR2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|WASR-2 5.45x39mm]]

[[File:BlOps2 AK+Mi-24hybrid.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK encircled in yellow for convenience.]]

== AN-94 ==
Two generic Middle Eastern terrorists are seen being blown away by an explosion while still holding on to their [[AN-94]] assault rifles in the premiere trailer. Seems that in Black Ops universe Russia has decided to start exporting the assault rifle by 2025.

[[File:Russian AN-94 Abakan Nikonov 5.45x39mm assault rifle 3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AN-94- 5.45x39mm.]]

[[File:BlOps2 AN-94.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AN-94 encircled in red. Fancy explosions aren't enough to take these two apart from their precious rifles. Immediate death, on the other hand, is.]]

== Heckler & Koch XM8 ==
Multiple soldiers in the reveal are seen wielding weapons which appear to be [[Heckler & Koch XM8]]s with short handguards and thick carrying handles seemingly based on one used by the [[(Aliens) - M41A Pulse Rifle|M41A Pulse Rifle]] in ''[[Aliens]]''. They use a railed carrying handle and have a railed handguard with rail covers rather than the PCAP accessory system used by the US version. In real life this configuration is used on Malaysian XM8s, though given the series' common use of Airsoft weapons as references it is far more likely this was based on a rail-equipped Airsoft gun. It is said to have an incorrect 32 round capacity, it has been confirmed that this is the M8A1 Assault rifle.

[[Image:Xm8 rightmed.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Older version of Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm]]

[[Image:Blackops2 XM8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier wielding the XM8.]]

[[Image:Blackops2 XM82.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper running with his XM8. Note the older open-front "duckbill" flash hider rather than the "birdcage" of late-production XM8s.]]

[[Image:Blackops2 rifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper firing the XM8. Note the ejection port appears to be underneath the carrying handle.]]

== IMI Galil AR ==
The [[IMI Galil]] AR can be seen during the Behind the scenes video.

[[File:GalilAR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Galil AR - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:GalilBOII.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A Panamanian Defense Forces soldier wielding a Galil AR.]]

==FN FAL "G Series"==
A G Series [[FN FAL]] is seen at E3 and the villain trailer.

[[File:Fn fal g series.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL "G Series" - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:FNFALBOII.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The FN FAL "G Series" seen at E3.]]
[[File:CODBO2FALGSeries.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The FN FAL "G Series" seen in the hands of Jonas Savimbi.]]

== FN SCAR-H ==
An [[FN SCAR|FN SCAR-H]] has appeared in the second behind the scenes video.
[[File:2fff2537c0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H CQC - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:BO2SCARL.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper's SCAR primed and ready.]]

== QBZ-97 ==
The "Type 95" has been confirmed to appear, its pickup symbol appearing in the E3 demo. Most likely this will be the same [[QBZ-97]] with 95-style trigger guard seen in "[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3]]".

[[Image:QBZ-97A.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco QBZ-97 with QBZ-95 style trigger guards - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:BO2QBZ97.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The QBZ-97's HUD icon.]]

== Type 25 ==
A fictional rifle based on the QB series called the Type 25 was used by David Mason in the E3 Demo. It is similar to the Type 95, but with a slightly modified exterior.
[[File:920x515 yemen.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:BO2UnknownRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== M16A1 ==
An [[M16A1]] can be seen in the hands of a soldier possibly during one of the "flashback eras" of the game. Judging by the 20-round magazine and the handguard it is an A1 model.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|An M16A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]

[[Image:bom16.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A soldier "Tebows" while wielding the M16A1]]

== Unknown Rifle ==
An unknown rifle was seen in the second behind the scenes video.
[[File:BO2DSHK&UnRifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The unknown rifle circled in blue.]]

= Sniper Rifle =
== Storm PSR ==
[[File:StormPSR.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:StormPSRSight.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Cool sight, eh?]]

== DSR-50 ==

= Machine Guns =

== Browning M2HB ==
A [[Browning M2HB]] can be seen on the back of a truck.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[File:M2 Browning Technical BOII.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Browning M2HB on a truck.]]

== DShK ==
A [[DShK heavy machine gun]] was seen in the second behind the scenes video.
[[File:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DShKM on tripod - 12.7x108mm]]
[[File:BO2DSHK&UnRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The DShK seen on a truck circled in red. You can see the circled shape muzzle brake.]]

== FN M249 SAW ==
Several soldiers are also seen wielding [[M249 SAW]]s in the reveal.

[[Image:Fn m249saw mk2 10-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN M249 SAW- 5.56x45mm.]]

[[Image:Black ops2 SAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier aiming his M249.]]

[[Image:Blackops2 M249 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier aiming his M249 while standing.]]

== General Dynamics GAU-19/A ==
A [[General Dynamics GAU-19/A]] was seen in the villain trailer mounted on a C.L.A.W AI weapon.

[[File:GAU19.jpg|thumb|400px|none|General Dynamics GAU-19/A - .50 BMG. Here pictured with Jet pilot, Helicopter pilot, and infantry soldier's helmets, and belt of .50 BMG ammo.]]
[[File:CODBO2GAUCLAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The GAU-19/A mounted on a C.L.A.W.]]

== Mk 48 Mod 1 ==
The [[FN Minimi|Mk 48 Mod 1]] was seen in the E3 demo.
[[File:Mk48mod1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN Mk 48 Mod 1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:BO2MK48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first person veiw of the MK48 Mod 1.]]
[[File:BO2MK48Sights.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MK48 Mod 1's sights.]]

== LSAT Light Machine Gun ==
A barley visible HUD icon for the [[LSAT|LSAT Light Machine Gun]] was seen in the Strike Force E3 demo.

[[File:LSAT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AAI Corporation LSAT Light Machine Gun with bipod and front and rear sights removed - 5.56x45mm Caseless]]
[[File:BO2LSATHUDIcon.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The LSAT's HUD icon.]]

= Launchers =
==Hawk MM1 grenade launcher==
The [[Hawk MM1 grenade launcher]] appears in the Behind the Scenes video.

[[File:MM1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MM1 grenade launcher - 40mm]]
[[File:BO2MM1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MM1 in the hands of a man who is said to be Jonas Savimbi.]]

==RPG 7==
The [[RPG-7]] is seen in E3 gameplay used by the invading Chinese forces. This time around it has a sling wrapped around, as well as a different rear sight and warhead.

[[File:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:BO2RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The RPG-7 in first person.]]
[[File:BO2RPG7Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the RPG-7.]]

= Shotguns =

== Kel-Tec KSG ==
The [[Kel-Tec KSG]] is seen in the hands of LAPD officers multiple times in the E3 demo.
[[File:Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun Oleg Volk 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kel-Tec KSG with Magpul RVG foregrip - 12 gauge]]
[[File:BO2KeltecKSG12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An LAPD officer with the Kel-Tec KSG.]]

== Unknown Shotgun ==
An unknown futuristic looking shotgun looks like [[Benelli M3|Benelli M3T]] is held by Harper in the reveal.

[[Image:Blackops2 shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper holding the shotgun.]]

Harper is seen firing an XM8 with the same unknown futuristic shotgun on his back.

[[Image:Blackops2 rifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper firing the XM8 with the shotgun on his back.]]

= Mounted Weapons =
== Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2 ==
Same conglomerate of Mi-35M and Mi-24P seen in the [[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3|Modern Warfare 3]] appears again, this time menacing our horse riding protagonists, armed with a twin [[Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2|GSh-30-2]] mounted on the fuselage and chin mounted [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B|Yak-B]] gatling gun.

[[File:GSh-30-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2 automatic cannon with unfired rounds - 30x165mm]]

[[File:BlOps2 AK+Mi-24hybrid.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As imposing as a gunship with two forward gunner armaments is, what the protagonists are really forgetting is the nasty result of horse riding without a helmet at these speeds.]]

==Metal Storm Redback RWS==

The fictional "Assault Sentry Drone" tracked UCVs mount a [[Metal Storm Weapons|Metal Storm Redback RWS]] four-barrel repeating grenade launcher in a module on their left-hand side.

[[Image:MS Redback.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Metal Storm Redback RWS - 40mm]]
[[Image:Blops2-RWS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two Assault Sentry Drones advance, armed with Redback RWS units.]]

== Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B ==
Same conglomerate of Mi-35M and Mi-24P seen in the [[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3|Modern Warfare 3]] appears again, this time menacing our horse riding protagonists, armed with a twin [[Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2|GSh-30-2]] mounted on the fuselage and chin mounted [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B|Yak-B]] gatling gun.

[[File:YakB-12.7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B]]

[[File:BlOps2 AK+Mi-24hybrid.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mil Mi-24 hybrid with both GSh-30-2 and Yak-B gatling guns for forward armaments. Somebody ''really'' needs to stop referencing Hind Airfix models apparently pieced together by kids with indecisive instructions]]

= Other =

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Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-08-08T04:30:38Z

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Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-08-08T04:14:37Z

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'''MAIN PAGE CONTENT NOTE: Only ''officially released'' images will be permitted. Leaked images, even if publicised elsewhere, are not permitted. This rule is not negotiable.'''

'''TALK PAGE CONTENT NOTE: Do not post lists of weapons you hope to see in the game. They will be deleted.'''

== The Newest Joke? ==
Why put up a IMFDB page of this game when it looks clearly like a waste of money

Because I am loking forward to this game, and cheevo hunting. Besides I am the only biotic organism that plays CoD for the SP and not the multi (well, except for split-screening with my girlfriend). Anyways, I like Call of Duty, and I think this will be cool, and I cannot wait to see what new weapons they will have. - [[User:1morey]] May 6, 2012 8:58 AM (EST)

Because we hate you, that's why. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:44, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

:And ''he sucks'' and we hate him. :P [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:30, 9 June 2012 (CDT)

Sorry [[User:1morey|1morey]], but you are not the only "biotic organism" who buy CoD only for the SP campaign XD [[User:Lone Soldier|Lone Soldier]]

I too like to play CoD single player campaigns. I dabbled a little in MP here and there, but don't really understand what all the fuss is about. If only the developers put in as much time and effort into the SP nowadays, like they used too :( --[[User:Ultimagameboy|Ultimagameboy]] 19:12, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

== XM8? ==
http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070805.jpg

Weapon in the pic looks like a modified XM8 [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Looks like the hybrid ACR from RE6 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:31, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Looks to just be like a space gun... It "resembles" a XM8 and an ACR, but looks like the SCAR from Crysis. It's just a future weapon. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 16:40, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

To be more specific,it appears to be the Malaysian variant of the XM8,the Malaysian variant has no built in scope like on the ones designed for the U.S Army,but a rail instead.however it has extra features of weapons such as the ACR, which Treyarch probably to give their own artistic touch to make it look unique and futuristic.[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 22:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

In the description, someone wrote that it is based on the M41A1 pulse rifle from Aliens. How? Why? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:52, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

== Future Warfare ==
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The game is set in near future, rumours say it's in 2027. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

That's what we've been needing. More future crap. ~ACE

Call Of Recon: Ghost Ops --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Well, I've given up on the series now that being on top of five grenades when they go off doesn't kill people.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

:Givern how CoD does with real weapons, watching them making up weapons should be eight kinds of hilarious. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:10, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

its been confirmed to be set in the year 2025,i would imagine a mixture of real weapons,and Treyarch-created mashups will be included[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 22:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

As long as we get (have) to shoot hundreds of rounds full auto at each quadrupedal robot it will apparently be awesome. I hope bullets have no effect on enemies until they suddenly die also. ~ACE

:I don't know, as long as the robots acknowledge being hit, a linebreaker enemy that stops you getting bogged down in one place can be good. ''Resistance: Fall of Man'' had enemies which would use their superior hitpoints (3+ headshots on normal for grunts with the basic rifles) to advance under fire while firing from the hip, which meant they ''didn't'' have to spam grenades at you constantly to stop you staying in one place (also they had Steelheads with guns that shot through walls to help them with that). It actually made the firefights rather more interesting than the headshot = dead standard. Though they at least reacted to being shot (flinched but kept running), it wasn't like ''STALKER'' where enemies were either alive or dead and wouldn't acknowledge any state in between (which in ''Clear Sky'' where they jacked up Bloodsucker HP ridiculously meant you weren't actually sure you were even hurting them).

:In general enemy variety is a huge weakness for modern shooters, since almost everything is 'man with gun.' If they do this ''right'' it could actually have far more varied firefights. Or they'll just have it invincible until you find the glowing rocket launcher Private Dies In An Inconvenient Place dropped, which seems more likely all things considered. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:04, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

::Dual wielding Javelins. ~ACE

== Come On ==

There is NOTHING warranting a page for this yet. All of you fanboys need to drop your cocks and have a little patience. Would any IMFDB mods put up with this for any other page or project with the same amount of leaked content, being 1, maybe 2 usable pictures? No way; this whole thing strikes me as ridiculous. If there's nothing concrete worth putting on the main page, stick to the Treyarch forums. It's insane how quickly the COD community jumped onto it on IMFDB. It's fucking preposterous to discuss ONE PICTURE for a WHOLE GAME THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED YET. Please, fanboys, calm down, and don't get ahead of yourselves. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 16:38, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Finally someone who agrees with me. --[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]

I can't disagree [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:18, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

The game has been officially announced, there are several pictures on CallofDuty.com --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 17:47, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Plus, a trailer is coming out today [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 18:29, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Trailer released, and I can already see inclusions in the form of the M249. --[[User:Jusuchin|Jusuchin]] 19:21, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer Weapon Spots ==

Weapon spots from the trailer that I found in the new trailer: at 0:30 there is a M134 Minigun (future-ized) mounted on a four legged combat drone, 0:43 there is a tank drone that appears to have a Metal Storm weapon mounted on its left (our right), 1:09 there is a future pistol (seems unrelated to any real world firearm), 1:11 there is a future-ized XM8, 1:18 there is an M16 (which model can't tell though length suggest it is a full length barrel and has 20 round magazine), 1:27 there what appears to be an M249 SAW (or M240), 1:31 there is a soldier with a balaclava firing a bullpup short barreled weapon that bears resemblance to the QBZ-95, at 1:31 or 1:32 (very easy to miss) there is a soldier being blown away holding an AK variant and by the looks of the handguard and flash hider it is an AN-94, at 1:34 in horseback solders are armed with WWII bolt action rifles, at 1:36 the technical is armed with a Dshk hmg, 1:44 hard to make out but rider on the right has an AK pattern weapon, likely an AK-47 since it looks like the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, 1:48 unknown shotgun. That's all I found for now. --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 21:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)
:I have an intuition that the M16 might (and I have empathize this, ''might'') be an A1 variant or a faux XM16 judging solely from silhouette of the upper receiver. The SAW apparently has an Mk 48 Mod 1 styled heat shield and handguard but that doesn't really mean anything, considering how the franchise loves to mix and match different variants. Weapon at 1:32, on the other hand, is ''definitely'' an AN-94. At least in aesthetic terms.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 01:03, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:: Isn't it "Kriss USA" instead of "TDI" now?[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 08:04, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:::Possibly, but KRISS ALLCAPS TACTICOOL ARMS is a stupid title and they were TDI first. They only changed it because they've belatedly discovered the mil-spec subgun market is a ghost town if you're not an MP5 and they're only ever going to sell Vectors to mall ninjas. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

==Designated Arguing/Complaining Area==
Before this discussion page turns to chaos like all the other CoD talk pages, let's open up a designated complaint zone. I know many people want to offer their negative opinions about the game, so if you don't have any real discussion topics please post in subheadings here. Hopefully this will allow people who want to actually discuss the game rather than arguing or whining to avoid these comments and have an actual discussion.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:51, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

===What is this going to be like===
I have looked at the trailer several times. This is how I think the games success is going to be. A: It will be a huge hit and sell millions of copies like all other COD games or B: It is going to be a complete and total disaster and there will never be another COD game made again in our lifetimes. I find from what I learned from the plot line details that has been released that it is going to feature what the first Black Ops did, except that the flashbacks will be set in the 1980's and the present 2025. I am wondering how Treyarch is going to do that. This will be a very curious COD game that I will be wondering about UNTIL it comes out.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:58, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

===Wow...===
I'll start off by saying the obvious- this game looks stupid. I mean, why jump from the 60's to the 2020's? I could see the futuristic idea that they were trying for, but this looks like a Ghost Recon rip-off. I have just lost what little respect I had for Treyarch. As more details become availiable, I might change my mind, but first impressions are not good. As with any game, if it is fun I will play it.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:51, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

I've lost respect for the Call of Duty franchise after Infinity Ward broke up [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

After at least one failed Soviet aggression in the late 60s, failed invasion of the Eastcoast US, ''failed'' (third time's the charm, right?) invasion of continental Europe within the last three games alone, you'd think the US at least would just get used to getting attacked on a major scale by this point.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 01:09, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:Well they have, it's pretty clear from MW2 that Russia tries to nuke the US so often in this universe that they didn't even bother with a counter-launch since that would just encourage them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:11, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I can't believe how generic they managed to make their new take on the series. Evil robots, mechs on four legs and choppers with unnecesserly many features. It's basically the same as every futuristic game. On top of it the game looks awful, name doesn't make sense, it looks more over-the-top than MW3. Could Treyarch have mistaken May 1 for April 1? This either is a joke, or will become one.--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 05:46, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

What the hell were Treyarch thinking? I was seriously hoping too see what happened to Hudson, Weaver and Mason in Operation Charybdis and maybe if we would get to see how Price started his career. It is often better to go back to basics than too go forward complications. [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
:What made you so sure that Price was going to be in this game?[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:45, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:Modern Warfare is set in a different continuity, and they even wanted to spin it off into an entirely separate franchise. The Call of Duty label was stuck on by Activision as a way of marketing it. Price won't be appearing because he doesn't exist. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 22:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:From what I've read on CoD wiki and heard, 1/3 of the game will take place in the 80s and the rest in 2025--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 09:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

: @ The Wierd It - the 'intel' at the ending of the final story mission of Black Ops suggest that Mason is being hunted by an SAS team in South Africa lead by a young operative called 'Jonathan' which many people have taken to mean a very young Captain Price [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]
::I think it's very unlikely that they'll have any crossovers between the WaW/BO and MW universes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:47, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
::I know that. I'm wondering where the leap in logic came that took people from one of the more common first names in the English language to "this is obviously meant to be Price". [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 15:36, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:::Well, it's positively rational compared to the kind of logical gymnastics that some rumour threads get. "I performed a series of random mathematical actions on this Valve press release and made the number 3! Episode 3 confirmed!" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 15:59, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
The first thing I thought when I saw the trailer was that this game was CoD attempting to piggyback on the whole idea of Metal Gear Solid 4. Then I saw the horse sequences and realized I was actually watching an Uncharted 3 trailer. --[[User:K|K]] 19:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I honestly like the way it's going now. I liked Black Ops better than Modern Warfare because it went to a setting not commonly covered (especially in big-budget titles) and had some more interesting segments than just running through an urban environment shooting dozens of AK-toting terrorists or Russians. I'm interested in seeing how Black Ops II progresses now that they're able to create their own technology (no worries of anachronisms or errors). It's a refreshing change of pace from generic World War II and modern day "realistic" shooters. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 22:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

@ The Wierd It - Ok mate, fair enough I might have jumped the gun. But on what we know from the intel in Black Ops and the character of Price in the MW franchise, ("promising SAS solider named Jonathan" also referred to as Price in the french Black Ops) - basing it on that knowledge, see why I jumped the gun? However, they brought Woods back for this one, when we were all sure he was dead, what's too say a very young Price won't be featuring in this game? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:I still love COD4, great game, but now I refuse to play anything after it. I did play through MW3's story to see the ending, and the MW series' ''story'' is pretty good, but the 2 and 3's gameplay is soooooo bad. In every single mission except one, you start with a reflex sight on your gun in MW3. The other mission you have a pistol. I'm gonna follow this page just to see how bad they can make it. I find it really funny how Halo and Mass Effect have guns (and tech) that are more realistic than MW2/BO/MW3/BO2. Hell, not just more realistic, Halo and ME's weapons ''actually make sense''. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:23, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

It looks like the US got some help from the Combine with those 4 propeller gunships they have. Maybe we might see an AR1 or a Strider? :D [[User:Lurker McNasty|Lurker McNasty]] 22:12, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

===My two cents on the matter===
Ok... well, first off, I'll admit that I am a fan of CoD. But from the first glance of this trailer, I think that Activision needs it's old management back, and fire the current management along with Robert Kotick.

Seriously Robert? This is what Black Ops II is going to be? A pseudo-futuristic first person shooter with player-driven choices thrown into the mix?

I was expecting that the next Call of Duty was going to be the inevitable Black Ops II (and if not that, then maybe something different for a change like making the game about a war that many people have forgotten about, like World War I or the Korean War, cause World War II and Vietnam get WAY too much attention). but I was expecting it to dive into details about Black Ops operations in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s when the United States got involved in conflicts during those years AFTER the Vietnam war (a.k.a., Grenada, Panama, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Gulf War I, Bosnian conflicts, etc.). But really, THIS is the best idea that your workers came up with? Some cyberwar between China and the United States?

Ok, from what I've read, there will be some throwbacks to the 1980s in this game, but adding in player-driven choices which affect the outcome of the game is a bad idea. I play Call of Duty for mindless entertainment and for shooting things, not to play over and over for making different moral decisions every time to get all the endings of the game! If I wanted a first person shooter with that theme, I'd go play Fallout 3. (Speaking of which, do you think we're really that stupid to notice that you guys stole "The Vault" name?)
: A video game uses the word "Vault" to refer to a location. Must have been stolen from Fallout, since they invented....the English language? [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

As for the weapons... you guys do realize that MANY of these weapons are either still on the drawing board, in the prototype stages, canceled (*cough* XM8 *cough*), or being tested in LIMITED numbers, and that we might not be seeing ANY of them in any future war by the year 2025... right?

it isn't even an xm8, i don't know how it could be a wrong choice for a gun if the gun itself isn't actually a real concept of any kind, its just a futuristic-looking gun designed by treyarch, and what would firing bobby kotick actually do it wouldn't change any of the games because he doesn't make any desicions regarding them, he worries about the money side e.g. the budget, the advertisement.
also the creators of fallout didn't actually invent the word vault so i don't really know what the pointless rant was for.--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 02:48, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

In the game it's called an M8A1. It's definitely the XM8. It's Treyarch doing what they do. Being creative with things that shouldn't have creativity added. [[User:DJCDavisDubstep|DJCDavisDubstep]] 16:25, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Well... maybe I might give this game a chance when it comes out. But seriously, if this is what all future Call of Duty games are going to follow from this point onward, then I will stick with the older ones instead. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 22:20, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

Hey, thanks to the video game industry, one would think that there may be a chance that the project will get cancelled like many games before it... unfortunately since the Call Of Duty franchise pops out games like a mother rabbit the future seems bleak...
--[[User:Mikethepanda|Mikethepanda]] 01:44, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

I'm pretty sure the game will still have all the mindless shooter nonsense that makes them millions and spawns dozens of poor imitations, but the addition of branching storylines and sandbox gameplay at least makes things more interesting. The Call of Duty formula stagnated with Modern Warfare 2, as it showed that it was little more than repeating the same basic formula with minor changes that add less new content than the average DLC pack. Black Ops at least tried to break from the mold a bit with the helicopter sequences (a throwback to the old games' vehicle segments) and the protagonist not suddenly losing his voice when you look through his eyes. I'm proud of Treyarch for trying to actually do something different and make an interesting game instead of following Infinity Ward and Activision's lead and just making a clone of Black Ops with some new weapons and tweaking the multiplayer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

== M16A1? ==

Link to image

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also the futuristic M4: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120502191412/callofduty/images/5/53/20120502-084241.jpg

The 'futuristic' M4 in the link above appears to be based upon the GR4 G26 airsoft rifle manufactured by Guay & Guay. Shown here for comparison: http://www.titano-shopping.com/immagini/Prodotti/Big/GR4_G26_DST

Yes it looks like that... It's not the first time CoD takes from airosft the looks for the guns

I wouldn't be surprised if they just used that futuristic looking gun for the photoshoot for the poster and it doesn't appear at all in the game itself. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:32, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

All those links are broken. Also I saw the recent trailer and the sillohuotte images of the M16 does look like an A1 from the handguard but the pop up trailer on gametrailers.com called it a classic M4 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:51, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

:Classic? It was an M4 before there were any M4s. That's a hipster M4 if there ever was one... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 02:43, 5 May 2012 (CDT)

== Rename ==

Shouldn't the page be renamed to "Call of Duty: Black Ops II". With the Roman numerals, because that's what all official material lists it as. - [[User:1morey]] May 5, 2012 8:59 AM (EST)

:Naw, since that would put it out of order when they inevitably make Black Ops 3. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:08, 6 May 2012 (CDT)

::A note could be made in the first paragraph though. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:36, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

== AK variant during horse scene ==

Recently revealed production images of Black Ops 2 not only show how seriously Treyarch is taking the precise animation of horses but also that the AK variants they are carrying are actually mo-capped TOYS:
http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/05/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-II-Horse-Motion-Capture-2.jpg

:Ha, that's the most obvious airsoft horse I've ever seen. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:40, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

== Bulldog Assault Rifle ==

Trailer from BO2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr0Z3RsOmlo

looks like the assault rifle from distric 9 use by the bad guys

:Looks like a futuristic QB rifle variant to me.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 06:34, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

::The name "Type 25" has been mentioned. Could that be it?

:::Most likely is. In fact, it almost definitely is, but we can't actually confirm that until the game comes out. Also, remember to sign your posts. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 05:46, 12 June 2012 (CDT)

== Preview ==

A preview mentions the Type 95 and Keltec KSG by name. Will wait for screens.
http://www.nowgamer.com/xbox-360/xbox-360-previews/1388343/black_ops_2_campaign_eyeson_with_two_levels_protect_potus_singapore.html

Well hopefully it's the real Type 95 and not the Type 97 misnamed [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:20, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

== Black Ops 2 Behind the Scenes E3 trailer ==

The new Behind the Scenes BO2 trailer released at E3 shows a couple of guns, most notably a sniper rifle at 3:18
Link to trailer: http://youtu(dot)be/GElKpJLvKLc
:2:08, what looks like a Galil SAR, 2:41, possible MM1 grenade launcher [[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 05:37, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

In another behind the scenes trailer, there's a KRISS Vector.--[[User:Mikethepanda|Mikethepanda]] 15:03, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

== There's a reason the Vector is called a K10 ==

Apparently, at SHOT Show 2011, a newer, improved, slightly more compact variant of the Vector with a telescoping stock was revealed, called the K10.
Here's the source:
:http://www.defensereview.com/kriss-k10-super-v-vector-xsmg-submachine-gun-smg-product-improvedupgraded-multi-caliber-subgun-for-special-operations-forces-sof-and-close-quarters-battle-cqb-applications-shot-show-2011-phot/

It does look slightly different from the Vector, though:
:http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/KRISS_K10_.45ACP_Submachine_Gun_1.jpg
:http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/KRISS_K10_.45ACP_Submachine_Gun_2.jpg
--[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 9:45, 6 July 2012 (PST)

== LAPD Shotgun ==

I don't really think that we can call the fact that the LAPD officers are using the KSG incorrect, since the game takes place in the future. Apparently in the time the game takes place, we will have flying, fighting robots, so it's not too hard to imagine that the LAPD could have switched shotguns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 11:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 9:48, 6 July 2012 (PST)

::Well after talking to some cops, it really depends on the department to say what an officer can have in his car. A lot can get their own personal shotguns in their car after qualifying with it. Not sure about a KSG, but it's possible if approved [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:22, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:::Yeah, it would probably be even more likely to be in use since the game takes place in the future. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 4:25, 10 July 2012 (PST)

== The Unknown Shotgun ==

The unknown shotgun is actually the Storm PSR (the ridiculous X-Ray Railgun thing), if you look closely at Harper's vest the white dot is from the scope, and it's also been stated by Treyarch that the Storm PSR has three barrels.... --[[User:Ghostdigga|Ghostdigga]] 21:20, 6 July 2012 (CDT)

== Gameplay footage ==

Well folks, here's a video from E3 showcasing the extended gameplay of Black Ops 2, and what might be expected in the game when it's released: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTtsn2Srm3E] --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 18:44, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

== AN-94 in segment taking place in the 80's? ==

It seems to me that part of the trailer the AN-94 appears in takes place in one of the 80's segments of the game. I shouldn't be surprised, but seriously, this seems like an even bigger anachronism than usual, even though it's not. Anyone else thinking the same? --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 2:57, 10 July 2012 (PST)

:You never know just because it was seen in the desert doesn't mean its in the 80's segment of the game.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]

::That's not what I meant, I just meant if it was part of the main 2025 story line of the game, there probably would have been '''some''' kind of future technology. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 3:14, 10 July 2012 (PST)

Oh yeah, it'll be anachronistic, no doubts there. This is Treyarch, after all. Do you think you'll be seeing anything (non-explosive) from the 20th Century in the future setting? I don't.--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 18:28, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, I have no doubt there'll be TONS of anachronisms in the 80's parts. I think the QBZ-97 was in the future part, so that's one thing from the 20th century in the future setting. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 4:41, 10 July 2012 (PST)

::I did not see it, are you talking about the fictional Type 25, or did i miss it?--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 18:46, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:::Go on the page, there'll be a QBZ-97, and then it'll say "Type 25" somewhere else on the page. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 5:24, 10 July 2012 (PST)

==SCAR-L :)==

http://k31.kn3.net/D8EA00866.png

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QP3_8y8uzk

:I'm afraid the picture link doesn't work, but the rifle that appears 1:45 is most definitely a SCAR-H. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 13:05, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

== IMFDB's Fault ==

Does anyone think that the fact that this game takes place in the future is partly our (IMFDB's users) fault. I bet someone working for Treyarch saw the IMFDB page for Black Ops and how the anachronistic guns are criticized, and thought, "We're anachronistic, are we? Well let's see about being anachronistic when the game takes place over a decade in the future!" --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:46, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

That's.... something to think about for awhile and if they did then either 3arc will be more accurate with the guns or make the guns worst than the first time.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 12:52, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

I don't know why it's such a big deal to everyone, just treat the "game" as a "game" and play it; there are too many over-opinionated comments with the words I DON'T LIKE IT, WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE IT LIKE I WANTED IT!!! WAAAAHHH
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 16:52, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

To be fair you do know where you are right? [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 17:12, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

Nah, I highly doubt that anyone at Treyarch or Activision has taken the time to read up about their videogames being featured on this site, and the legit or unnecessary complaints people have made about their past games. IMFDB has been a growing name in the film industry for a while now and this site is often browsed and looked into by those who have made or acted in the films featured on here and many of the administrators (the ones who work in the industry) can vouch for that. But for the gaming industry viewing our site? That's kinda hard to tell or to prove because we really don't have any members on here who work in the gaming industry (although I could be wrong) who can vouch for that. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 18:44, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

You do realize that I meant this as a joke, right? --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 18:07, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

"But for the gaming industry viewing our site? That's kinda hard to tell or to prove because we really don't have any members on here who work in the gaming industry (although I could be wrong) who can vouch for that."

I see where you're getting at, but I want to make a point. I was hoping for a bunch of weapons to be in CoJ 3. And more than a handful of them were in the game (or a variant of the weapon). Just to make this clear, I am an admin for the CoJ Wiki, and we have connections to Techland. And I had posted links to the IMFDB CoJ pages on the fan page for CoJ on Facebook (Which Techland frequents).
I was hoping for a Skorpion, Benelli M4, SW Model 29, FN FAL, M72 LAW, and FN Five-seveN. They were in the game.
I was hoping for a Uzi (Instead, a Mini Uzi), A Sig-Sauer (Instead a SIG Mosquito), Remington 700 ( Instead a Remington M24), MP5 variant (The game had a MP5A2), AR-15 variant (The game had a HK416), Mossberg 500 variant (The game had a Mossberg 500A Field Gun). Now I'm not saying Techland read the page and said "Ph hey, this 1morey guy wants to see these weapons, let's answer his request." That's not what I am saying at all, but I wouldn't doubt they read the page, and used the list as "inspiration". Another user had wanted a Steyr AUG A3. That was a cut weapon.

Anyways, back on topic. I don't doubt some video game companies use this site as inspiration, but if I had to pick one, I would say Infinity Ward, EA, and Treyarch probably don't look at this site at all, I think they just watch a bunch of movies, or see what other games have. - [[User:1morey]] August 7, 2012 3:10 PM (EST)
I mean if this isn't a coincidence, I don't know what is.

== Multiplayer Reveal Trailer ==

The new trailer for the multiplayer of BO2 just went up, showing a plethora of new weapons: -killerkirill, 19:13 GMT, 07/08/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrOpWYsp3L8&feature=g-u-u

:Well, the good thing at least is that the main page will be considerably shorter and easier to maintain. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 14:28, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

Taurus Raging Bull/Dan Wesson???, barrett/steyr sniper?/ Mechem NTW?, SRM Arms Model 1212?, Remington MSR? and lots, lots more. :~P --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 17:04, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

This game is going to be worse than Crysis for people coming up with contrived "hybrid" explanations for the guns. That shotgun does look pretty close to a SRM Arms Model 1216 though, even looks like the player is correctly rotating the magazine very 4 shots, never thought I would see that in a game. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:25, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

i have played it safe and included the dsr-50 sniper rifle in the page, source= http://mp1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screen-Shot-2012-08-07-at-1.58.00-PM-600x331.png

File:NewDSR50muzbk.jpg

2012-08-08T04:08:05Z

Pistolpete:

Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-08-08T04:05:14Z

Pistolpete:

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[[Image:Black-ops2_Logo.jpg‎|thumb|300px|right|''Call of Duty: Black Ops 2'' (2012)]]

'''''Call of Duty: Black Ops 2''''' is the latest installment in the ''Call of Duty'' franchise that is currently in development by Treyarch and set for release on November 13, 2012. Despite what the name suggest this new title appears to not be a direct sequel to the first ''[[Black Ops]]'' as it takes place in the future in the year 2025, although some parts will take place in the Proxy Wars of the 1980s.

The game was officially revealed through a reveal trailer that debuted on May 1, 2012.

The following guns and pictures are taken from the official reveal trailer.

'''The following weapons are seen in the video game ''Call of Duty: Black Ops 2'':'''
__TOC__ 

= Pistols =
== TDI Kard ==
David Mason is seen loading a handgun that appears to be based off the [[TDI Kard]] pistol while inside a vehicle. Another soldier is seen firing a similar pistol. It is called the KAP-40 in the E3 demo.

[[File:KRISS KARD.jpg|thumb|none|350px|TDI Kard - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Blackops2 hanguns.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Side-view as the pistol is loaded.]]
[[Image:Blackops2 HangunSlide.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close-up of the slide and the Glock style sights.]]
[[File:TDIKardReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|TDI Kard reload action]]

== Unknown M1911 Variant ==
A nickel plated [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] is briefly seen in the holster of a soilder in the reveal trailer.

[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 Pistol with brown grips - .45 ACP]]
[[File:M1911 Holstered BO2.jpg|thumb|350px|none|The Nickel Plated M1911 circled in red.]]

== Unknown Pistol ==
An unknown pistol was seen in the reveal trailer that is said to be a [[FN Five-seveN]].

[[File:BO2UnknownPistol.jpg|thumb|350px|none|]]

= Submachine guns =
==QCW-05==

The [[QCW-05]] appearing as the Chicom QCB was first seen in the Los Angeles Gameplay Trailer.

[[File:Type-05.jpg|thumb|350px|none|QCW-05 - 5.8x21mm DCV05]]
[[File:ChicomBO2.jpg|thumb|350px|none|The QCW-05 in first person.]]
[[File:Chicom QCB pick-up BOII.jpg|thumb|350px|none|The QCW-05's HUD icon.]]

==TDI Vector==
The [[TDI Vector]] is expected to return from [[Modern Warfare 2]], now called the '''Vector K10'''. It also has a black finish as opposed to the tan finish from MW2.

[[File:KrissSuperV.jpg|thumb|400px|none|TDI Vector SMG - .45 ACP]]

==Uzi==
The [[Uzi]] can be seen during the Behind the Scenes video.

[[File:Uzi.jpg|thumb|350px|none|IMI Uzi with buttstock collapsed - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UziBOII.jpg|thumb|350px|none|A Panamanian Defense Force soldier with his Uzi.]]

= Assault Rifles =
== AK Variant ==
During the horse riding (Yes, horse riding) sequence of the first trailer, a rider can be seen gripping an unknown [[AK-47|AK variant]]. On a closer examination of the screenshot, the proportions of the AK's magazine and lack of flash hider seem to imply it's a same WASR-2 inspired conglomerate as is the one in the first game

[[File:WASR2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|WASR-2 5.45x39mm]]

[[File:BlOps2 AK+Mi-24hybrid.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK encircled in yellow for convenience.]]

== AN-94 ==
Two generic Middle Eastern terrorists are seen being blown away by an explosion while still holding on to their [[AN-94]] assault rifles in the premiere trailer. Seems that in Black Ops universe Russia has decided to start exporting the assault rifle by 2025.

[[File:Russian AN-94 Abakan Nikonov 5.45x39mm assault rifle 3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AN-94- 5.45x39mm.]]

[[File:BlOps2 AN-94.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AN-94 encircled in red. Fancy explosions aren't enough to take these two apart from their precious rifles. Immediate death, on the other hand, is.]]

== Heckler & Koch XM8 ==
Multiple soldiers in the reveal are seen wielding weapons which appear to be [[Heckler & Koch XM8]]s with short handguards and thick carrying handles seemingly based on one used by the [[(Aliens) - M41A Pulse Rifle|M41A Pulse Rifle]] in ''[[Aliens]]''. They use a railed carrying handle and have a railed handguard with rail covers rather than the PCAP accessory system used by the US version. In real life this configuration is used on Malaysian XM8s, though given the series' common use of Airsoft weapons as references it is far more likely this was based on a rail-equipped Airsoft gun. It is said to have an incorrect 32 round capacity.

[[Image:Xm8 rightmed.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Older version of Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm]]

[[Image:Blackops2 XM8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier wielding the XM8.]]

[[Image:Blackops2 XM82.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper running with his XM8. Note the older open-front "duckbill" flash hider rather than the "birdcage" of late-production XM8s.]]

[[Image:Blackops2 rifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper firing the XM8. Note the ejection port appears to be underneath the carrying handle.]]

== IMI Galil AR ==
The [[IMI Galil]] AR can be seen during the Behind the scenes video.

[[File:GalilAR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Galil AR - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:GalilBOII.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A Panamanian Defense Forces soldier wielding a Galil AR.]]

==FN FAL "G Series"==
A G Series [[FN FAL]] is seen at E3 and the villain trailer.

[[File:Fn fal g series.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL "G Series" - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:FNFALBOII.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The FN FAL "G Series" seen at E3.]]
[[File:CODBO2FALGSeries.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The FN FAL "G Series" seen in the hands of Jonas Savimbi.]]

== FN SCAR-H ==
An [[FN SCAR|FN SCAR-H]] has appeared in the second behind the scenes video.
[[File:2fff2537c0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H CQC - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:BO2SCARL.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper's SCAR primed and ready.]]

== QBZ-97 ==
The "Type 95" has been confirmed to appear, its pickup symbol appearing in the E3 demo. Most likely this will be the same [[QBZ-97]] with 95-style trigger guard seen in "[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3]]".

[[Image:QBZ-97A.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco QBZ-97 with QBZ-95 style trigger guards - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:BO2QBZ97.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The QBZ-97's HUD icon.]]

== Type 25 ==
A fictional rifle based on the QB series called the Type 25 was used by David Mason in the E3 Demo. It is similar to the Type 95, but with a slightly modified exterior.
[[File:920x515 yemen.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:BO2UnknownRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== M8A1 ==
The fictional M8A1 was seen at E3. It is presumed to be a improved version of the XM8.
[[File:BO2M8A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M8A1 seen at E3.]]

== M16A1 ==
An [[M16A1]] can be seen in the hands of a soldier possibly during one of the "flashback eras" of the game. Judging by the 20-round magazine and the handguard it is an A1 model.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|An M16A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]

[[Image:bom16.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A soldier "Tebows" while wielding the M16A1]]

== Unknown Rifle ==
An unknown rifle was seen in the second behind the scenes video.
[[File:BO2DSHK&UnRifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The unknown rifle circled in blue.]]

= Sniper Rifle =
== Storm PSR ==
[[File:StormPSR.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:StormPSRSight.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Cool sight, eh?]]

== DSR-50 ==

= Machine Guns =

== Browning M2HB ==
A [[Browning M2HB]] can be seen on the back of a truck.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[File:M2 Browning Technical BOII.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Browning M2HB on a truck.]]

== DShK ==
A [[DShK heavy machine gun]] was seen in the second behind the scenes video.
[[File:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DShKM on tripod - 12.7x108mm]]
[[File:BO2DSHK&UnRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The DShK seen on a truck circled in red. You can see the circled shape muzzle brake.]]

== FN M249 SAW ==
Several soldiers are also seen wielding [[M249 SAW]]s in the reveal.

[[Image:Fn m249saw mk2 10-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN M249 SAW- 5.56x45mm.]]

[[Image:Black ops2 SAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier aiming his M249.]]

[[Image:Blackops2 M249 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier aiming his M249 while standing.]]

== General Dynamics GAU-19/A ==
A [[General Dynamics GAU-19/A]] was seen in the villain trailer mounted on a C.L.A.W AI weapon.

[[File:GAU19.jpg|thumb|400px|none|General Dynamics GAU-19/A - .50 BMG. Here pictured with Jet pilot, Helicopter pilot, and infantry soldier's helmets, and belt of .50 BMG ammo.]]
[[File:CODBO2GAUCLAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The GAU-19/A mounted on a C.L.A.W.]]

== Mk 48 Mod 1 ==
The [[FN Minimi|Mk 48 Mod 1]] was seen in the E3 demo.
[[File:Mk48mod1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN Mk 48 Mod 1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:BO2MK48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first person veiw of the MK48 Mod 1.]]
[[File:BO2MK48Sights.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MK48 Mod 1's sights.]]

== LSAT Light Machine Gun ==
A barley visible HUD icon for the [[LSAT|LSAT Light Machine Gun]] was seen in the Strike Force E3 demo.

[[File:LSAT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AAI Corporation LSAT Light Machine Gun with bipod and front and rear sights removed - 5.56x45mm Caseless]]
[[File:BO2LSATHUDIcon.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The LSAT's HUD icon.]]

= Launchers =
==Hawk MM1 grenade launcher==
The [[Hawk MM1 grenade launcher]] appears in the Behind the Scenes video.

[[File:MM1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MM1 grenade launcher - 40mm]]
[[File:BO2MM1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MM1 in the hands of a man who is said to be Jonas Savimbi.]]

==RPG 7==
The [[RPG-7]] is seen in E3 gameplay used by the invading Chinese forces. This time around it has a sling wrapped around, as well as a different rear sight and warhead.

[[File:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:BO2RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The RPG-7 in first person.]]
[[File:BO2RPG7Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the RPG-7.]]

= Shotguns =

== Kel-Tec KSG ==
The [[Kel-Tec KSG]] is seen in the hands of LAPD officers multiple times in the E3 demo.
[[File:Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun Oleg Volk 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kel-Tec KSG with Magpul RVG foregrip - 12 gauge]]
[[File:BO2KeltecKSG12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An LAPD officer with the Kel-Tec KSG.]]

== Unknown Shotgun ==
An unknown futuristic looking shotgun looks like [[Benelli M3|Benelli M3T]] is held by Harper in the reveal.

[[Image:Blackops2 shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper holding the shotgun.]]

Harper is seen firing an XM8 with the same unknown futuristic shotgun on his back.

[[Image:Blackops2 rifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harper firing the XM8 with the shotgun on his back.]]

= Mounted Weapons =
== Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2 ==
Same conglomerate of Mi-35M and Mi-24P seen in the [[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3|Modern Warfare 3]] appears again, this time menacing our horse riding protagonists, armed with a twin [[Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2|GSh-30-2]] mounted on the fuselage and chin mounted [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B|Yak-B]] gatling gun.

[[File:GSh-30-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2 automatic cannon with unfired rounds - 30x165mm]]

[[File:BlOps2 AK+Mi-24hybrid.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As imposing as a gunship with two forward gunner armaments is, what the protagonists are really forgetting is the nasty result of horse riding without a helmet at these speeds.]]

==Metal Storm Redback RWS==

The fictional "Assault Sentry Drone" tracked UCVs mount a [[Metal Storm Weapons|Metal Storm Redback RWS]] four-barrel repeating grenade launcher in a module on their left-hand side.

[[Image:MS Redback.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Metal Storm Redback RWS - 40mm]]
[[Image:Blops2-RWS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two Assault Sentry Drones advance, armed with Redback RWS units.]]

== Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B ==
Same conglomerate of Mi-35M and Mi-24P seen in the [[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3|Modern Warfare 3]] appears again, this time menacing our horse riding protagonists, armed with a twin [[Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2|GSh-30-2]] mounted on the fuselage and chin mounted [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B|Yak-B]] gatling gun.

[[File:YakB-12.7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B]]

[[File:BlOps2 AK+Mi-24hybrid.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mil Mi-24 hybrid with both GSh-30-2 and Yak-B gatling guns for forward armaments. Somebody ''really'' needs to stop referencing Hind Airfix models apparently pieced together by kids with indecisive instructions]]

= Other =

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Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-08-07T22:04:12Z

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'''MAIN PAGE CONTENT NOTE: Only ''officially released'' images will be permitted. Leaked images, even if publicised elsewhere, are not permitted. This rule is not negotiable.'''

'''TALK PAGE CONTENT NOTE: Do not post lists of weapons you hope to see in the game. They will be deleted.'''

== The Newest Joke? ==
Why put up a IMFDB page of this game when it looks clearly like a waste of money

Because I am loking forward to this game, and cheevo hunting. Besides I am the only biotic organism that plays CoD for the SP and not the multi (well, except for split-screening with my girlfriend). Anyways, I like Call of Duty, and I think this will be cool, and I cannot wait to see what new weapons they will have. - [[User:1morey]] May 6, 2012 8:58 AM (EST)

Because we hate you, that's why. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:44, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

:And ''he sucks'' and we hate him. :P [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:30, 9 June 2012 (CDT)

Sorry [[User:1morey|1morey]], but you are not the only "biotic organism" who buy CoD only for the SP campaign XD [[User:Lone Soldier|Lone Soldier]]

I too like to play CoD single player campaigns. I dabbled a little in MP here and there, but don't really understand what all the fuss is about. If only the developers put in as much time and effort into the SP nowadays, like they used too :( --[[User:Ultimagameboy|Ultimagameboy]] 19:12, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

== XM8? ==
http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070805.jpg

Weapon in the pic looks like a modified XM8 [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Looks like the hybrid ACR from RE6 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:31, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Looks to just be like a space gun... It "resembles" a XM8 and an ACR, but looks like the SCAR from Crysis. It's just a future weapon. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 16:40, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

To be more specific,it appears to be the Malaysian variant of the XM8,the Malaysian variant has no built in scope like on the ones designed for the U.S Army,but a rail instead.however it has extra features of weapons such as the ACR, which Treyarch probably to give their own artistic touch to make it look unique and futuristic.[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 22:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

In the description, someone wrote that it is based on the M41A1 pulse rifle from Aliens. How? Why? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:52, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

== Future Warfare ==
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The game is set in near future, rumours say it's in 2027. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

That's what we've been needing. More future crap. ~ACE

Call Of Recon: Ghost Ops --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Well, I've given up on the series now that being on top of five grenades when they go off doesn't kill people.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

:Givern how CoD does with real weapons, watching them making up weapons should be eight kinds of hilarious. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:10, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

its been confirmed to be set in the year 2025,i would imagine a mixture of real weapons,and Treyarch-created mashups will be included[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 22:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

As long as we get (have) to shoot hundreds of rounds full auto at each quadrupedal robot it will apparently be awesome. I hope bullets have no effect on enemies until they suddenly die also. ~ACE

:I don't know, as long as the robots acknowledge being hit, a linebreaker enemy that stops you getting bogged down in one place can be good. ''Resistance: Fall of Man'' had enemies which would use their superior hitpoints (3+ headshots on normal for grunts with the basic rifles) to advance under fire while firing from the hip, which meant they ''didn't'' have to spam grenades at you constantly to stop you staying in one place (also they had Steelheads with guns that shot through walls to help them with that). It actually made the firefights rather more interesting than the headshot = dead standard. Though they at least reacted to being shot (flinched but kept running), it wasn't like ''STALKER'' where enemies were either alive or dead and wouldn't acknowledge any state in between (which in ''Clear Sky'' where they jacked up Bloodsucker HP ridiculously meant you weren't actually sure you were even hurting them).

:In general enemy variety is a huge weakness for modern shooters, since almost everything is 'man with gun.' If they do this ''right'' it could actually have far more varied firefights. Or they'll just have it invincible until you find the glowing rocket launcher Private Dies In An Inconvenient Place dropped, which seems more likely all things considered. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:04, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

::Dual wielding Javelins. ~ACE

== Come On ==

There is NOTHING warranting a page for this yet. All of you fanboys need to drop your cocks and have a little patience. Would any IMFDB mods put up with this for any other page or project with the same amount of leaked content, being 1, maybe 2 usable pictures? No way; this whole thing strikes me as ridiculous. If there's nothing concrete worth putting on the main page, stick to the Treyarch forums. It's insane how quickly the COD community jumped onto it on IMFDB. It's fucking preposterous to discuss ONE PICTURE for a WHOLE GAME THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED YET. Please, fanboys, calm down, and don't get ahead of yourselves. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 16:38, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Finally someone who agrees with me. --[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]

I can't disagree [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:18, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

The game has been officially announced, there are several pictures on CallofDuty.com --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 17:47, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Plus, a trailer is coming out today [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 18:29, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

Trailer released, and I can already see inclusions in the form of the M249. --[[User:Jusuchin|Jusuchin]] 19:21, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer Weapon Spots ==

Weapon spots from the trailer that I found in the new trailer: at 0:30 there is a M134 Minigun (future-ized) mounted on a four legged combat drone, 0:43 there is a tank drone that appears to have a Metal Storm weapon mounted on its left (our right), 1:09 there is a future pistol (seems unrelated to any real world firearm), 1:11 there is a future-ized XM8, 1:18 there is an M16 (which model can't tell though length suggest it is a full length barrel and has 20 round magazine), 1:27 there what appears to be an M249 SAW (or M240), 1:31 there is a soldier with a balaclava firing a bullpup short barreled weapon that bears resemblance to the QBZ-95, at 1:31 or 1:32 (very easy to miss) there is a soldier being blown away holding an AK variant and by the looks of the handguard and flash hider it is an AN-94, at 1:34 in horseback solders are armed with WWII bolt action rifles, at 1:36 the technical is armed with a Dshk hmg, 1:44 hard to make out but rider on the right has an AK pattern weapon, likely an AK-47 since it looks like the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, 1:48 unknown shotgun. That's all I found for now. --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 21:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)
:I have an intuition that the M16 might (and I have empathize this, ''might'') be an A1 variant or a faux XM16 judging solely from silhouette of the upper receiver. The SAW apparently has an Mk 48 Mod 1 styled heat shield and handguard but that doesn't really mean anything, considering how the franchise loves to mix and match different variants. Weapon at 1:32, on the other hand, is ''definitely'' an AN-94. At least in aesthetic terms.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 01:03, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:: Isn't it "Kriss USA" instead of "TDI" now?[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 08:04, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:::Possibly, but KRISS ALLCAPS TACTICOOL ARMS is a stupid title and they were TDI first. They only changed it because they've belatedly discovered the mil-spec subgun market is a ghost town if you're not an MP5 and they're only ever going to sell Vectors to mall ninjas. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

==Designated Arguing/Complaining Area==
Before this discussion page turns to chaos like all the other CoD talk pages, let's open up a designated complaint zone. I know many people want to offer their negative opinions about the game, so if you don't have any real discussion topics please post in subheadings here. Hopefully this will allow people who want to actually discuss the game rather than arguing or whining to avoid these comments and have an actual discussion.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:51, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

===What is this going to be like===
I have looked at the trailer several times. This is how I think the games success is going to be. A: It will be a huge hit and sell millions of copies like all other COD games or B: It is going to be a complete and total disaster and there will never be another COD game made again in our lifetimes. I find from what I learned from the plot line details that has been released that it is going to feature what the first Black Ops did, except that the flashbacks will be set in the 1980's and the present 2025. I am wondering how Treyarch is going to do that. This will be a very curious COD game that I will be wondering about UNTIL it comes out.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:58, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

===Wow...===
I'll start off by saying the obvious- this game looks stupid. I mean, why jump from the 60's to the 2020's? I could see the futuristic idea that they were trying for, but this looks like a Ghost Recon rip-off. I have just lost what little respect I had for Treyarch. As more details become availiable, I might change my mind, but first impressions are not good. As with any game, if it is fun I will play it.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:51, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

I've lost respect for the Call of Duty franchise after Infinity Ward broke up [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

After at least one failed Soviet aggression in the late 60s, failed invasion of the Eastcoast US, ''failed'' (third time's the charm, right?) invasion of continental Europe within the last three games alone, you'd think the US at least would just get used to getting attacked on a major scale by this point.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 01:09, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:Well they have, it's pretty clear from MW2 that Russia tries to nuke the US so often in this universe that they didn't even bother with a counter-launch since that would just encourage them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:11, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I can't believe how generic they managed to make their new take on the series. Evil robots, mechs on four legs and choppers with unnecesserly many features. It's basically the same as every futuristic game. On top of it the game looks awful, name doesn't make sense, it looks more over-the-top than MW3. Could Treyarch have mistaken May 1 for April 1? This either is a joke, or will become one.--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 05:46, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

What the hell were Treyarch thinking? I was seriously hoping too see what happened to Hudson, Weaver and Mason in Operation Charybdis and maybe if we would get to see how Price started his career. It is often better to go back to basics than too go forward complications. [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
:What made you so sure that Price was going to be in this game?[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:45, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:Modern Warfare is set in a different continuity, and they even wanted to spin it off into an entirely separate franchise. The Call of Duty label was stuck on by Activision as a way of marketing it. Price won't be appearing because he doesn't exist. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 22:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:From what I've read on CoD wiki and heard, 1/3 of the game will take place in the 80s and the rest in 2025--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 09:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

: @ The Wierd It - the 'intel' at the ending of the final story mission of Black Ops suggest that Mason is being hunted by an SAS team in South Africa lead by a young operative called 'Jonathan' which many people have taken to mean a very young Captain Price [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]
::I think it's very unlikely that they'll have any crossovers between the WaW/BO and MW universes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:47, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
::I know that. I'm wondering where the leap in logic came that took people from one of the more common first names in the English language to "this is obviously meant to be Price". [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 15:36, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:::Well, it's positively rational compared to the kind of logical gymnastics that some rumour threads get. "I performed a series of random mathematical actions on this Valve press release and made the number 3! Episode 3 confirmed!" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 15:59, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
The first thing I thought when I saw the trailer was that this game was CoD attempting to piggyback on the whole idea of Metal Gear Solid 4. Then I saw the horse sequences and realized I was actually watching an Uncharted 3 trailer. --[[User:K|K]] 19:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I honestly like the way it's going now. I liked Black Ops better than Modern Warfare because it went to a setting not commonly covered (especially in big-budget titles) and had some more interesting segments than just running through an urban environment shooting dozens of AK-toting terrorists or Russians. I'm interested in seeing how Black Ops II progresses now that they're able to create their own technology (no worries of anachronisms or errors). It's a refreshing change of pace from generic World War II and modern day "realistic" shooters. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 22:22, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

@ The Wierd It - Ok mate, fair enough I might have jumped the gun. But on what we know from the intel in Black Ops and the character of Price in the MW franchise, ("promising SAS solider named Jonathan" also referred to as Price in the french Black Ops) - basing it on that knowledge, see why I jumped the gun? However, they brought Woods back for this one, when we were all sure he was dead, what's too say a very young Price won't be featuring in this game? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:I still love COD4, great game, but now I refuse to play anything after it. I did play through MW3's story to see the ending, and the MW series' ''story'' is pretty good, but the 2 and 3's gameplay is soooooo bad. In every single mission except one, you start with a reflex sight on your gun in MW3. The other mission you have a pistol. I'm gonna follow this page just to see how bad they can make it. I find it really funny how Halo and Mass Effect have guns (and tech) that are more realistic than MW2/BO/MW3/BO2. Hell, not just more realistic, Halo and ME's weapons ''actually make sense''. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:23, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

It looks like the US got some help from the Combine with those 4 propeller gunships they have. Maybe we might see an AR1 or a Strider? :D [[User:Lurker McNasty|Lurker McNasty]] 22:12, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

===My two cents on the matter===
Ok... well, first off, I'll admit that I am a fan of CoD. But from the first glance of this trailer, I think that Activision needs it's old management back, and fire the current management along with Robert Kotick.

Seriously Robert? This is what Black Ops II is going to be? A pseudo-futuristic first person shooter with player-driven choices thrown into the mix?

I was expecting that the next Call of Duty was going to be the inevitable Black Ops II (and if not that, then maybe something different for a change like making the game about a war that many people have forgotten about, like World War I or the Korean War, cause World War II and Vietnam get WAY too much attention). but I was expecting it to dive into details about Black Ops operations in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s when the United States got involved in conflicts during those years AFTER the Vietnam war (a.k.a., Grenada, Panama, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Gulf War I, Bosnian conflicts, etc.). But really, THIS is the best idea that your workers came up with? Some cyberwar between China and the United States?

Ok, from what I've read, there will be some throwbacks to the 1980s in this game, but adding in player-driven choices which affect the outcome of the game is a bad idea. I play Call of Duty for mindless entertainment and for shooting things, not to play over and over for making different moral decisions every time to get all the endings of the game! If I wanted a first person shooter with that theme, I'd go play Fallout 3. (Speaking of which, do you think we're really that stupid to notice that you guys stole "The Vault" name?)
: A video game uses the word "Vault" to refer to a location. Must have been stolen from Fallout, since they invented....the English language? [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

As for the weapons... you guys do realize that MANY of these weapons are either still on the drawing board, in the prototype stages, canceled (*cough* XM8 *cough*), or being tested in LIMITED numbers, and that we might not be seeing ANY of them in any future war by the year 2025... right?

it isn't even an xm8, i don't know how it could be a wrong choice for a gun if the gun itself isn't actually a real concept of any kind, its just a futuristic-looking gun designed by treyarch, and what would firing bobby kotick actually do it wouldn't change any of the games because he doesn't make any desicions regarding them, he worries about the money side e.g. the budget, the advertisement.
also the creators of fallout didn't actually invent the word vault so i don't really know what the pointless rant was for.--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 02:48, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

In the game it's called an M8A1. It's definitely the XM8. It's Treyarch doing what they do. Being creative with things that shouldn't have creativity added. [[User:DJCDavisDubstep|DJCDavisDubstep]] 16:25, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Well... maybe I might give this game a chance when it comes out. But seriously, if this is what all future Call of Duty games are going to follow from this point onward, then I will stick with the older ones instead. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 22:20, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

Hey, thanks to the video game industry, one would think that there may be a chance that the project will get cancelled like many games before it... unfortunately since the Call Of Duty franchise pops out games like a mother rabbit the future seems bleak...
--[[User:Mikethepanda|Mikethepanda]] 01:44, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

I'm pretty sure the game will still have all the mindless shooter nonsense that makes them millions and spawns dozens of poor imitations, but the addition of branching storylines and sandbox gameplay at least makes things more interesting. The Call of Duty formula stagnated with Modern Warfare 2, as it showed that it was little more than repeating the same basic formula with minor changes that add less new content than the average DLC pack. Black Ops at least tried to break from the mold a bit with the helicopter sequences (a throwback to the old games' vehicle segments) and the protagonist not suddenly losing his voice when you look through his eyes. I'm proud of Treyarch for trying to actually do something different and make an interesting game instead of following Infinity Ward and Activision's lead and just making a clone of Black Ops with some new weapons and tweaking the multiplayer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

== M16A1? ==

Link to image

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also the futuristic M4: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120502191412/callofduty/images/5/53/20120502-084241.jpg

The 'futuristic' M4 in the link above appears to be based upon the GR4 G26 airsoft rifle manufactured by Guay & Guay. Shown here for comparison: http://www.titano-shopping.com/immagini/Prodotti/Big/GR4_G26_DST

Yes it looks like that... It's not the first time CoD takes from airosft the looks for the guns

I wouldn't be surprised if they just used that futuristic looking gun for the photoshoot for the poster and it doesn't appear at all in the game itself. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:32, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

All those links are broken. Also I saw the recent trailer and the sillohuotte images of the M16 does look like an A1 from the handguard but the pop up trailer on gametrailers.com called it a classic M4 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:51, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

:Classic? It was an M4 before there were any M4s. That's a hipster M4 if there ever was one... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 02:43, 5 May 2012 (CDT)

== Rename ==

Shouldn't the page be renamed to "Call of Duty: Black Ops II". With the Roman numerals, because that's what all official material lists it as. - [[User:1morey]] May 5, 2012 8:59 AM (EST)

:Naw, since that would put it out of order when they inevitably make Black Ops 3. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:08, 6 May 2012 (CDT)

::A note could be made in the first paragraph though. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:36, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

== AK variant during horse scene ==

Recently revealed production images of Black Ops 2 not only show how seriously Treyarch is taking the precise animation of horses but also that the AK variants they are carrying are actually mo-capped TOYS:
http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/05/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-II-Horse-Motion-Capture-2.jpg

:Ha, that's the most obvious airsoft horse I've ever seen. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:40, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

== Bulldog Assault Rifle ==

Trailer from BO2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr0Z3RsOmlo

looks like the assault rifle from distric 9 use by the bad guys

:Looks like a futuristic QB rifle variant to me.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 06:34, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

::The name "Type 25" has been mentioned. Could that be it?

:::Most likely is. In fact, it almost definitely is, but we can't actually confirm that until the game comes out. Also, remember to sign your posts. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 05:46, 12 June 2012 (CDT)

== Preview ==

A preview mentions the Type 95 and Keltec KSG by name. Will wait for screens.
http://www.nowgamer.com/xbox-360/xbox-360-previews/1388343/black_ops_2_campaign_eyeson_with_two_levels_protect_potus_singapore.html

Well hopefully it's the real Type 95 and not the Type 97 misnamed [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:20, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

== Black Ops 2 Behind the Scenes E3 trailer ==

The new Behind the Scenes BO2 trailer released at E3 shows a couple of guns, most notably a sniper rifle at 3:18
Link to trailer: http://youtu(dot)be/GElKpJLvKLc
:2:08, what looks like a Galil SAR, 2:41, possible MM1 grenade launcher [[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 05:37, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

In another behind the scenes trailer, there's a KRISS Vector.--[[User:Mikethepanda|Mikethepanda]] 15:03, 6 June 2012 (CDT)

== There's a reason the Vector is called a K10 ==

Apparently, at SHOT Show 2011, a newer, improved, slightly more compact variant of the Vector with a telescoping stock was revealed, called the K10.
Here's the source:
:http://www.defensereview.com/kriss-k10-super-v-vector-xsmg-submachine-gun-smg-product-improvedupgraded-multi-caliber-subgun-for-special-operations-forces-sof-and-close-quarters-battle-cqb-applications-shot-show-2011-phot/

It does look slightly different from the Vector, though:
:http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/KRISS_K10_.45ACP_Submachine_Gun_1.jpg
:http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/KRISS_K10_.45ACP_Submachine_Gun_2.jpg
--[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 9:45, 6 July 2012 (PST)

== LAPD Shotgun ==

I don't really think that we can call the fact that the LAPD officers are using the KSG incorrect, since the game takes place in the future. Apparently in the time the game takes place, we will have flying, fighting robots, so it's not too hard to imagine that the LAPD could have switched shotguns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 11:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 9:48, 6 July 2012 (PST)

::Well after talking to some cops, it really depends on the department to say what an officer can have in his car. A lot can get their own personal shotguns in their car after qualifying with it. Not sure about a KSG, but it's possible if approved [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:22, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:::Yeah, it would probably be even more likely to be in use since the game takes place in the future. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 4:25, 10 July 2012 (PST)

== The Unknown Shotgun ==

The unknown shotgun is actually the Storm PSR (the ridiculous X-Ray Railgun thing), if you look closely at Harper's vest the white dot is from the scope, and it's also been stated by Treyarch that the Storm PSR has three barrels.... --[[User:Ghostdigga|Ghostdigga]] 21:20, 6 July 2012 (CDT)

== Gameplay footage ==

Well folks, here's a video from E3 showcasing the extended gameplay of Black Ops 2, and what might be expected in the game when it's released: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTtsn2Srm3E] --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 18:44, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

== AN-94 in segment taking place in the 80's? ==

It seems to me that part of the trailer the AN-94 appears in takes place in one of the 80's segments of the game. I shouldn't be surprised, but seriously, this seems like an even bigger anachronism than usual, even though it's not. Anyone else thinking the same? --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 2:57, 10 July 2012 (PST)

:You never know just because it was seen in the desert doesn't mean its in the 80's segment of the game.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]

::That's not what I meant, I just meant if it was part of the main 2025 story line of the game, there probably would have been '''some''' kind of future technology. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 3:14, 10 July 2012 (PST)

Oh yeah, it'll be anachronistic, no doubts there. This is Treyarch, after all. Do you think you'll be seeing anything (non-explosive) from the 20th Century in the future setting? I don't.--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 18:28, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, I have no doubt there'll be TONS of anachronisms in the 80's parts. I think the QBZ-97 was in the future part, so that's one thing from the 20th century in the future setting. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 4:41, 10 July 2012 (PST)

::I did not see it, are you talking about the fictional Type 25, or did i miss it?--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 18:46, 10 July 2012 (CDT)

:::Go on the page, there'll be a QBZ-97, and then it'll say "Type 25" somewhere else on the page. --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]]-- 5:24, 10 July 2012 (PST)

==SCAR-L :)==

http://k31.kn3.net/D8EA00866.png

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QP3_8y8uzk

:I'm afraid the picture link doesn't work, but the rifle that appears 1:45 is most definitely a SCAR-H. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 13:05, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

== IMFDB's Fault ==

Does anyone think that the fact that this game takes place in the future is partly our (IMFDB's users) fault. I bet someone working for Treyarch saw the IMFDB page for Black Ops and how the anachronistic guns are criticized, and thought, "We're anachronistic, are we? Well let's see about being anachronistic when the game takes place over a decade in the future!" --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:46, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

That's.... something to think about for awhile and if they did then either 3arc will be more accurate with the guns or make the guns worst than the first time.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 12:52, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

I don't know why it's such a big deal to everyone, just treat the "game" as a "game" and play it; there are too many over-opinionated comments with the words I DON'T LIKE IT, WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE IT LIKE I WANTED IT!!! WAAAAHHH
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 16:52, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

To be fair you do know where you are right? [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 17:12, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

Nah, I highly doubt that anyone at Treyarch or Activision has taken the time to read up about their videogames being featured on this site, and the legit or unnecessary complaints people have made about their past games. IMFDB has been a growing name in the film industry for a while now and this site is often browsed and looked into by those who have made or acted in the films featured on here and many of the administrators (the ones who work in the industry) can vouch for that. But for the gaming industry viewing our site? That's kinda hard to tell or to prove because we really don't have any members on here who work in the gaming industry (although I could be wrong) who can vouch for that. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 18:44, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

You do realize that I meant this as a joke, right? --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 18:07, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

"But for the gaming industry viewing our site? That's kinda hard to tell or to prove because we really don't have any members on here who work in the gaming industry (although I could be wrong) who can vouch for that."

I see where you're getting at, but I want to make a point. I was hoping for a bunch of weapons to be in CoJ 3. And more than a handful of them were in the game (or a variant of the weapon). Just to make this clear, I am an admin for the CoJ Wiki, and we have connections to Techland. And I had posted links to the IMFDB CoJ pages on the fan page for CoJ on Facebook (Which Techland frequents).
I was hoping for a Skorpion, Benelli M4, SW Model 29, FN FAL, M72 LAW, and FN Five-seveN. They were in the game.
I was hoping for a Uzi (Instead, a Mini Uzi), A Sig-Sauer (Instead a SIG Mosquito), Remington 700 ( Instead a Remington M24), MP5 variant (The game had a MP5A2), AR-15 variant (The game had a HK416), Mossberg 500 variant (The game had a Mossberg 500A Field Gun). Now I'm not saying Techland read the page and said "Ph hey, this 1morey guy wants to see these weapons, let's answer his request." That's not what I am saying at all, but I wouldn't doubt they read the page, and used the list as "inspiration". Another user had wanted a Steyr AUG A3. That was a cut weapon.

Anyways, back on topic. I don't doubt some video game companies use this site as inspiration, but if I had to pick one, I would say Infinity Ward, EA, and Treyarch probably don't look at this site at all, I think they just watch a bunch of movies, or see what other games have. - [[User:1morey]] August 7, 2012 3:10 PM (EST)
I mean if this isn't a coincidence, I don't know what is.

== Multiplayer Reveal Trailer ==

The new trailer for the multiplayer of BO2 just went up, showing a plethora of new weapons: -killerkirill, 19:13 GMT, 07/08/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrOpWYsp3L8&feature=g-u-u

:Well, the good thing at least is that the main page will be considerably shorter and easier to maintain. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 14:28, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

Taurus Raging Bull/Dan Wesson???, barrett/steyr sniper?/ Mechem NTW?, SRM Arms Model 1212?, Remington MSR? and lots, lots more. :~P --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 17:04, 7 August 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Skyfall

2012-08-04T19:03:35Z

Pistolpete: /* Trailer unknown gun */

==Bond's main gun==

I know we can see that Bond has chosen the faithful PPK as his sidearm, but I would love too see a return of the P99. It is the use of it in Bond films that made it a preferred personal sidearm of choice [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I want to see other Walter guns. There's been quite a few new ones since the last movie that came out. I'd love to see the PPQ in action [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I'd rather him use a SIG Sauer P226 as a bigger pistol like he did in QoS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:58, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:Nah, I think he needs a more unique pistol, something to mark that only Bond would use. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

same. maybe the SIG or he pulls a [[Collateral]] with the [[Heckler & Koch USP]]--[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Is anyone else puzzled by how old and haggard Daniel Craig looks in that picture? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:41, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I still have never liked the new Bond. All the Bonds before Craig were the classic fictional "spy" with all the charms and awesomeness that all women want him and men want to be him. I know REAL spies don't usually act like the classic Bond fashion with super gadgets and all but that's why we love him, not for the realism but for the fantasy it really is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig does look older in this picture. I would rather see the new PPS as his sidearm because it's simply an evolution thing. From PPK to P5 to P99, Bond has usually always used a Walther. To have him go back to the PPK, while is nice to see, is not something that make sense this day in age.

:Actually in the Jeffrey Deaver Bond novel "Carte Blanche" Bond does use the Walther PPS [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig has not aged well in my opinion. In Layer Cake when he was early thirties, he looked quite young. When I saw the promo picture for Skyfall, I couldn't believe it was him for a second. I would have liked Bond to sport a P22 or PK380 in Skyfall, but as is life :( [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Charon68, that is what I was referring to the book. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 17:43, 2 February 2012 (CST)

If bond is former SAS soldier, as suggested in Casino Royale, then he would have used a PPK so is a realistic choice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:04, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Personally though I had thought the PPK was withdrawn from service after the attempted kidnapping of Princess Margaret in 1974. As cool as the thing looks the cartridge is woefully underpowered and would barely make a scratch with modern body armor. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:That incident was with the police Royalty Protection branch, and at that point the PPK was carried as a primary weapon. It wasn't a power issue, the gun jammed when the protection officer tried to return fire, and was immediately and totally withdrawn by the police due to this freak occurrence. It is still used (or was still used until relatively recently) by the SAS as an ankle gun during close protection work or for undercover work (such as in Northern Ireland), and I think there is also a hidden pocket specifically for the PPK in the SAS CRW coveralls. Main pistols used by SAS are the P226 and P228. Personally I would like to see bond with a P228, or its successor the P229 SAS. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:30, 2 February 2012 (CST)
::On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Personally I always thought a worth successor to the PPK would have been the HK P7. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:19, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Bond being ex-UKSF has been canon since at least ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]''; Bond can be seen wearing a pair of UKSF Parachute wings on the sleeve of his No.1C uniform, as in [[:File:Usairforce.jpg|This shot]]. Plus he uses a P7 in at least one of the novels. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (CST)

I think we're torn on the ideal of a the Bond gun as being something small and still powerful to what is more practical. In a real sense, Bond should always be carrying full size guns or larger guns because of the situation. Why a small gun when his outfit could offer concealment on larger frame weapons and with modern day suppressors, you can't say a small gun suppresses better. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)

In the novels written by Raymond Benson, Bond would carry a PPK if he needed concealment with a suppressor and he would keep a P99 in his cars or when he was in a tactical situation where he needed more firepower. That was something that was used in the game Bloodstone and would be a nice medium. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 22:07, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Bond is a Naval Commmander, and personally I would like him to use a P228, as it is compact enough for undercover work and has a large enough magazine (13 rounds in 9mm) to see him through a gunfight --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:54, 5 February 2012 (CST).

The p228 is not bond 007 style. The thing is that the PPK is the classic bond gun, but with a magazine size of at max 8 rounds, it is not very good choice. He could use one of two pistols: the P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander) or a usp compact in 9 mil. The usp compact is good for concealment and it offers a larger magazine (13 rounds) compared to the ppk's 8.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:28, 5 February 2012 (CST)
:"he P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander)" Wrong Navy, plus the 226 Navy is (I believe) only chambered in 9mm NATO. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:21, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If anything the PPK is a good backup gun nothing else. I personally wouldn't even consider using a PPK as my primary even if I was using a compact gun just because their is simply better compact guns with better stopping power then the PPK.

Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST)

I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If they want to be really faithful, they should give him back the Beretta pocket pistol he carried in the first few novels. But now I'm being overly sarcastic and need to calm down. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:30, 6 February 2012 (CST)

While I agree that there are better choices then a PPK, I wouldn't want to step in front of one in the hands of a professional like Daniel Craig's Bond. The PPK is iconic and identified with Bond as much as the dinner suit and the Aston Martin; it was chosen by Fleming because its name "rolled off the tongue" and for its sleek looks. The producers did a good job in Quantum of Solace mixing up the traditional (PPK) with the more modern (P226). And since I am new to this site, if someone could tell me how to leave a signature, I would appreciate it :)
Thanks Funkychinaman for the signature info!--[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 22:58, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

I don't know if you folks have seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuO34MDezzU
It looks like folks have been discussing the gun Bond should carry for 50 years. [[User:APS221|APS221]] 00:47, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

They should follow Jeffery Deaver's advice and choose the gun from the book Carte Blanche, the book that was going to be adapted into this film originally. Shame it's not going to be-the gun's a Walther PPS .40 S&W. It betters the PPK in calibers and capacity (if you either have an extended magazine or choose 9mm instead of .40 calibre.), and matches it exactly on size. Also, I believe Bond should have a larger handgun inside his vehicle and for use on covert operations. The PP9, while Bond has been using it before and it has a good capacity, is outdated and still a 9mm. I believe it should be a full-sized handgun, still a Walther, maybe the P22 .22 LR, as it is quieter suppressed than the 9mm PP9. I'm not sure weather .22 LR is more or less powerful than 9mm though...anyone? As for the Bond gun debating, it's never going to stop completely. If Bond books and films carry on being made for hundreds more years, better and more concealable guns in better calibers with better suppressors will become available, and people like us will always disagree with the choice, unless the people in charge of firearms choosing at the Bond films come across this site and choose what we say, which is unlikely. The PPK, whilst good in it's day, is severly outdated (it's nearly twice as old as the actor holding it!), the caliber is ineffective compared to the .40 S&W at penetration and damage, and the PPS can be suppressed just as effectively with modern suppressor technology, compared to the .380 ACP with WWII suppressor technology, and is the same size exactly-Walther claim so themselves. However, the big cheeses at the Bond office just see the PPK not as ineffective, or underpowered, or old, but as a symbol of Bond. I think we may have to put up with it for many years to come, until either they see some sense or are fired. I'm sure Boothroyd's turning in his grave. Alasdair.

The thing with Bond is that he needs to use a gun with decent size caliber. If I would choose a new gun for Bond, I would choose the Kimber Warrior, which is meant for marksmen like Bond. Glocks are good, but are not suited for Bond. The Walther P99 as of the guns Bond has used is the best one that he has used. --[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 10:31, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I want to see him with a PPS or something like that. The PPK is nice, but this isn't Ian Flemming's bond anymore. He is a more realistic action hero. A PPS in a IWB holster with a P99 or PPQ in his car. I like Craig as Bond because he is more gritty and honestly, less of a man whore. I have experience with a PPS and I think Bond would too.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:25, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I'm a huge fan of the Walther, and i would love to see him use his P99 again, i got a replica of it myself and it's really good. Especially is a Vega Holster!

In the book "Devil May Care", Bond looses his PPK frequently and is mostly seen using, of all things an [[M1911]]. That would be pretty cool. [[User:Scattergun|Scattergun]] 14:55, 8 April 2012 (EST)

While I maintain my opinion that the PPK, properly supplemented at appropriate times like in Quantum, is the only gun for Bond, I am sympathetic to the argument that he should be equipped with a more modern weapon. Therefore, I nominate the new SIG SAUER P224. It is of an appropriate size (unlike the Walther P99), has the proven professional pedigree of the P220/226 line, is of high quality (unlike the poor reputation-dogged Walther), isn’t the everyone’s gun the GLOCK is, and has some style and panache that the PPS, GLOCK, USP, and their polymer look-alikes lack. I would prefer 9mm for an agent operating worldwide, but the P224 is available in .40 and .357 SIG (now that’s a serious caliber). --[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 23:01, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:Of course the big problem with a non-Walther gun is that apparently the franchise has a fairly nice sponsorship deal going with Carl Walther GmbH. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:09, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

If the franchise has a big sponsorship with Walther, then why don't Walther make a gun especially designed for James Bond? It could be tailored to meet his needs (suggestions as to what they might be, please), and then they could release it for sale to the public. They'd make a fortune by selling it to James Bond fans, and serious shooters if it was very good. Q could make a big deal in-film about how good it is, and how Walther have made it especially for him. Good idea? Alasdair.

:Well, because imagine the PR when the gun made specially for James Bond is used to hold up a bank, they'd never hear the end of it, nevermind the kind of "MGM is arming our kids!" nonsense they'd get anyway. That and if you're a gun company exec and someone pitches that idea to you, your first reply would be "why not just have him use something we already make?" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:55, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

The whole debate about whether he should be using a PPK should be treated in the same way as whether it is realistic for Bond to engage in so many scuffles in nice, taper-fit Tom Ford suits and Church leather shoes. The cut is simply unrealistic for someone who wishes to conceal serious firepower. Given his obvious fondness for the Italian cut in his suits, it is fitting that Daniel Craig/James Bond should choose the PPK instead of the P99 he had used in the first movie, but, alas, such weapons remained adequate today for a Walter Mitty who would not see much more action. Since the 1970s, an operator carrying a PPK would simply not be taken seriously by fellow professionals, and would be laughed out of the Special Forces Club. A serious operator would simply rather wear a suit with the horrendous sack-like American cut, than do without a true combat pistol.

A former SBS operator would really be more likely to carry a SiG-Sauer P226. He might sacrifice two rounds to save 0.1 inch of butt length by carrying the P228, but someone who really means to can conceal either under a suit jacket. Even women operators could conceal a Heckler and Koch MP5K under their jacket. So the producer or director really missed a chance here to turn James Bond from being a mere walking advertisement for luxury brands to a more serious character (like back in Casino Royale).

Oh, by the way, using an Olympic Arms K23B is the ultimate mark of un-seriousness in a professional. Someone get that girl a HK 416.

:One word for you - TRADITION. Bond's always used a PPK (except in the first few novels), it's pretty much his signature gun. I'm glad they've gone back to it over the P99, which just never had the same classic feel to it.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 10:45, 1 August 2012 (CDT)

Of course. But that still means that the more edgy and realistic Daniel Craig reboot, which started so promisingly in Casino Royale, has now officially gone off the rails and U-turned back into cheesy entertainment territory. If that's the case, please give me back Pierce Brosnan's easy charm, Roger Moore's humour, or Sean Connery sheer animal charisma, not Daniel Craig's brooding sulkiness.

:I don't see how you can claim they've totally rejected the serious tone and gone back to being cheesy fun JUST because he's using the PPK again. Especially as you haven't even seen the film! I mean, do you not realise what a ridiculous jump in logic that is? That's like saying "Because Bond has a beard in one scene they're going to bring back Madonna."--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:51, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== What Happened??? ==

In [[Casino Royale (2006)]], Bond had good trigger discipline and kept good two handed grips on his guns, an now we have shots of him in a footchase pointing his PPK in front of him with his finger on the trigger... call me a safety Nazi but I expect better from a trained agent....--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:35, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

You mean the footchase at Tower Hill? Maybe, and correct me if i'm wrong he just shot someone....

I'm pretty sure Bond was chasing/shooting at someone so that would explain it [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:38, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

==CO19 holster weapons==

The lads from CO19 seem too have a Glock in their holsters. The norm for police carrying sidearms in the UK is a Glock 17, so its safe too assume that they are also Glock 17s.

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Several of the Bond forums have photo threads and their are images of the armourer hand the CO19 actors Glock 17s and G36s.

Regards,
Tecolote

==Trailer unknown gun==

The teaser trailer dropped today, and I have clocked an unknown gun around 1:11. It is scoped and suppressed, but I am unable too identify it. Can someone have a look and possibly screencap it? Cheers lads

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:It was an odd looking thing, whatever it is. It is mostly in shadow but you get one good whole weapon shot of it when there is a flash of light:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:I think if it is a real gun it is highly modified. My guess would be that it is a covert gun that passes as something else (like the [[(Day of the Jackal) - Custom Sniper Rifle|Day of the Jackal]] rifle), as the trigger is a random metal loop, and that vertical part is not a magazine, but appears to fold down from the front as a sort of monopod. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:06, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

It is some type of bolt action for sure,and definitely a covert job.
Regards,
Tecolote

The bolt looks like something off of an Accuracy International rifle.--[[User:6pulkpancerna|6pulkpancerna]] 11:37, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks, I should have known that as I was examining an AI in .300Win. the day before yesterday.

Regards,

Tecolote

I would say its a grease gun--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:26, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

:It deffinitely has nothing to do with an M3, as it is a bolt action feeding from a rifle size magazine (in the trailer it clearly shows the magazine being inserted into the rifle). The large vertical part appears to be a hand grip or support strut of some sort and is not a magazine. As for it being an Accuracy International I can see where you are coming from, but I don't think it is. First off the bolt stem on an AI AW curves backwards, and the bolt on this is straight. Also, the bolt is too far forward from the front of the weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:28, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Yeah, I was just kinda throwing it out there. If it is a M3, it looks like it is highly customized. But now I know it is not a M3.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:10, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

I don't think we'll be able to tell just from this. It looks almost like a custom mockup built around a real weapon. Hell, considering the unusual trigger, box-shaped suppressor, and various almost unrecognizable bits and pieces, it could very well be a completely inert prop with CGI firing. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 20:36, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

It could be a prototype weapon where the design has not been released to the general public. Otherwise, it is just a complete custom mockup.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:40, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

looking at the bolt area and where the stock attaches, my money would be on it being a PGM Ultima Ratio, obviously heavily mocked up, but impossible to say for sure without more pics - TheSpannaMunkee

== Additional images to be Id'ed ==

These are some more images from the trailer. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:16, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

In order: 1. Bond's PPK, which he promptly reloads

2. I assume his HK416 during his house shootout

3. The strange mock-up seen above

4. A Glock, or possibly a SIG? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 01:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

[[File:SkyF 1002.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1003.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1005.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:I'm hoping the gun in that last image is a P99 [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
::Number 4 isn't a Glock and I don't think it's a SIG either, it looks to have a slide mounted safety like a Beretta 92FS but the front profile makes me think it's some sort of Browning variant. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:22, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

The gun on the last picture looks like a P99 to me...But a 92FS isn't a crazy thought, maybe he picked it up from a Silva tug or something..

I'm inclined to think either Browning or 1911 variant --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:07, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:I reckon it's probably some sort of Browning or 1911 variant, the frame looks too long to be a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:48, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
I've taken a new screencap of the silhouette of the strange SMG thing he has, the best I could find. It looks vaguely like the silhouette of a MAT-49, though I doubt that's what it is. Hope it helps nonetheless: http://i49.tinypic.com/359ecl3.png [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:43, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:Look a couble of sections up and you will see a cap of it in the light, where you can see it is actually cuilt on (if anything) a bolt action rifle. What you are seeing as a long SMG magazine is a cosmetic thing stuck on the weapon which appears to be folded forward for storage. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:05, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

You know, i guess it's maybe a H&K USP because it looks like it so much
:Number 4 could be a HK USP actually. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
Haha, someone who's agreed with me ;)
:Sign your posts though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:42, 24 May 2012 (CDT)
All right, will do. --[[User:Walther_arms|walther_arms]]

== trailer weapons ==

seen the new trailer bad guy seems to have custom take down sniper rifle fits with the mytos of the films allso looks like bond goes back to the p99 all i have seen is a bad blurry image but the trigger guard is defeniatly not a ppk jump in any one who can clear this up--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:49, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

ok the courtyard gun in the trailer 1 got a better look at it seems to be a glock 17 --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:46, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgr2syY_OU4&feature=youtu.be --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 09:58, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

:Awesome!! Just wanted to point out that there is also a slightly different US version, also viewable on the jamesbond007 channel on YouTube. I don't know about you guys, but I think this has some serious potential...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:54, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== Signature Walther PPK ==

a pistol Signature gun that only 007 can use did they not use this in license to kill in 1989 at least they upgraded the caliber to .380 acp (9mm x 17mm short) which is slightly better than the .32 acp (7.65x17mm) that was used in the books and films--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 14:51, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

Kinda. In License to Kill it was a sniper rifle disguised as a camera that was the gun that required a palm scan, not the Walther PPK [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:16, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== "12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun" ==

I've read that this is "Anderson Wheeler 500 Nitro Double Rifle" (source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465931593424952&set=a.430960320255413.102948.154596811225100&type=1&theater ); may it be true?
[[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 17:43, 2 August 2012 (CEST)
:I remember an article about a set visit where they were talking about the fact that the big bad in this film is fond of antique British weapons and uses percussion pistols and a .500 Nitro Express rifle, so that ID might be right. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:59, 2 August 2012 (CDT)
::I've changed the identification, since you are probably correct. For those who are interested, here is the company website: [http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/double_rifle.php Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle] --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer ==

I watched the new trailer this morning, and at the bit when Bond meets Q, I swear I could have heard Q saying the PPK is infact a PPK/S. Could be wrong, but did anyone else notice this? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:Yeah, it was even mentioned on the main page of Skyfall. I think it could definitely be a blued PPK/S based on the grip size. Can someone who knows PPKs better than I do confirm this?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:13, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

::Am I the only one who thinks that there might be a sort of shooting competition between Bond and Silva? I mean, look at the main page, where the P99 and the Flintlock pistols are. Bond is wearing the same suit, the background is the same and it's the same time of day. Just some food for thought --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 02:34, 3 August 2012 (CDT).
:::I don't think that's a P99, it could be the Glock that he has pointed at his head in the screenshot with Silva firing the Flintlock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:24, 3 August 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Skyfall

2012-08-04T19:00:51Z

Pistolpete: /* Trailer unknown gun */

==Bond's main gun==

I know we can see that Bond has chosen the faithful PPK as his sidearm, but I would love too see a return of the P99. It is the use of it in Bond films that made it a preferred personal sidearm of choice [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I want to see other Walter guns. There's been quite a few new ones since the last movie that came out. I'd love to see the PPQ in action [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I'd rather him use a SIG Sauer P226 as a bigger pistol like he did in QoS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:58, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:Nah, I think he needs a more unique pistol, something to mark that only Bond would use. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

same. maybe the SIG or he pulls a [[Collateral]] with the [[Heckler & Koch USP]]--[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Is anyone else puzzled by how old and haggard Daniel Craig looks in that picture? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:41, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I still have never liked the new Bond. All the Bonds before Craig were the classic fictional "spy" with all the charms and awesomeness that all women want him and men want to be him. I know REAL spies don't usually act like the classic Bond fashion with super gadgets and all but that's why we love him, not for the realism but for the fantasy it really is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig does look older in this picture. I would rather see the new PPS as his sidearm because it's simply an evolution thing. From PPK to P5 to P99, Bond has usually always used a Walther. To have him go back to the PPK, while is nice to see, is not something that make sense this day in age.

:Actually in the Jeffrey Deaver Bond novel "Carte Blanche" Bond does use the Walther PPS [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig has not aged well in my opinion. In Layer Cake when he was early thirties, he looked quite young. When I saw the promo picture for Skyfall, I couldn't believe it was him for a second. I would have liked Bond to sport a P22 or PK380 in Skyfall, but as is life :( [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Charon68, that is what I was referring to the book. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 17:43, 2 February 2012 (CST)

If bond is former SAS soldier, as suggested in Casino Royale, then he would have used a PPK so is a realistic choice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:04, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Personally though I had thought the PPK was withdrawn from service after the attempted kidnapping of Princess Margaret in 1974. As cool as the thing looks the cartridge is woefully underpowered and would barely make a scratch with modern body armor. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:That incident was with the police Royalty Protection branch, and at that point the PPK was carried as a primary weapon. It wasn't a power issue, the gun jammed when the protection officer tried to return fire, and was immediately and totally withdrawn by the police due to this freak occurrence. It is still used (or was still used until relatively recently) by the SAS as an ankle gun during close protection work or for undercover work (such as in Northern Ireland), and I think there is also a hidden pocket specifically for the PPK in the SAS CRW coveralls. Main pistols used by SAS are the P226 and P228. Personally I would like to see bond with a P228, or its successor the P229 SAS. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:30, 2 February 2012 (CST)
::On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Personally I always thought a worth successor to the PPK would have been the HK P7. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:19, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Bond being ex-UKSF has been canon since at least ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]''; Bond can be seen wearing a pair of UKSF Parachute wings on the sleeve of his No.1C uniform, as in [[:File:Usairforce.jpg|This shot]]. Plus he uses a P7 in at least one of the novels. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (CST)

I think we're torn on the ideal of a the Bond gun as being something small and still powerful to what is more practical. In a real sense, Bond should always be carrying full size guns or larger guns because of the situation. Why a small gun when his outfit could offer concealment on larger frame weapons and with modern day suppressors, you can't say a small gun suppresses better. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)

In the novels written by Raymond Benson, Bond would carry a PPK if he needed concealment with a suppressor and he would keep a P99 in his cars or when he was in a tactical situation where he needed more firepower. That was something that was used in the game Bloodstone and would be a nice medium. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 22:07, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Bond is a Naval Commmander, and personally I would like him to use a P228, as it is compact enough for undercover work and has a large enough magazine (13 rounds in 9mm) to see him through a gunfight --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:54, 5 February 2012 (CST).

The p228 is not bond 007 style. The thing is that the PPK is the classic bond gun, but with a magazine size of at max 8 rounds, it is not very good choice. He could use one of two pistols: the P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander) or a usp compact in 9 mil. The usp compact is good for concealment and it offers a larger magazine (13 rounds) compared to the ppk's 8.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:28, 5 February 2012 (CST)
:"he P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander)" Wrong Navy, plus the 226 Navy is (I believe) only chambered in 9mm NATO. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:21, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If anything the PPK is a good backup gun nothing else. I personally wouldn't even consider using a PPK as my primary even if I was using a compact gun just because their is simply better compact guns with better stopping power then the PPK.

Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST)

I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If they want to be really faithful, they should give him back the Beretta pocket pistol he carried in the first few novels. But now I'm being overly sarcastic and need to calm down. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:30, 6 February 2012 (CST)

While I agree that there are better choices then a PPK, I wouldn't want to step in front of one in the hands of a professional like Daniel Craig's Bond. The PPK is iconic and identified with Bond as much as the dinner suit and the Aston Martin; it was chosen by Fleming because its name "rolled off the tongue" and for its sleek looks. The producers did a good job in Quantum of Solace mixing up the traditional (PPK) with the more modern (P226). And since I am new to this site, if someone could tell me how to leave a signature, I would appreciate it :)
Thanks Funkychinaman for the signature info!--[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 22:58, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

I don't know if you folks have seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuO34MDezzU
It looks like folks have been discussing the gun Bond should carry for 50 years. [[User:APS221|APS221]] 00:47, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

They should follow Jeffery Deaver's advice and choose the gun from the book Carte Blanche, the book that was going to be adapted into this film originally. Shame it's not going to be-the gun's a Walther PPS .40 S&W. It betters the PPK in calibers and capacity (if you either have an extended magazine or choose 9mm instead of .40 calibre.), and matches it exactly on size. Also, I believe Bond should have a larger handgun inside his vehicle and for use on covert operations. The PP9, while Bond has been using it before and it has a good capacity, is outdated and still a 9mm. I believe it should be a full-sized handgun, still a Walther, maybe the P22 .22 LR, as it is quieter suppressed than the 9mm PP9. I'm not sure weather .22 LR is more or less powerful than 9mm though...anyone? As for the Bond gun debating, it's never going to stop completely. If Bond books and films carry on being made for hundreds more years, better and more concealable guns in better calibers with better suppressors will become available, and people like us will always disagree with the choice, unless the people in charge of firearms choosing at the Bond films come across this site and choose what we say, which is unlikely. The PPK, whilst good in it's day, is severly outdated (it's nearly twice as old as the actor holding it!), the caliber is ineffective compared to the .40 S&W at penetration and damage, and the PPS can be suppressed just as effectively with modern suppressor technology, compared to the .380 ACP with WWII suppressor technology, and is the same size exactly-Walther claim so themselves. However, the big cheeses at the Bond office just see the PPK not as ineffective, or underpowered, or old, but as a symbol of Bond. I think we may have to put up with it for many years to come, until either they see some sense or are fired. I'm sure Boothroyd's turning in his grave. Alasdair.

The thing with Bond is that he needs to use a gun with decent size caliber. If I would choose a new gun for Bond, I would choose the Kimber Warrior, which is meant for marksmen like Bond. Glocks are good, but are not suited for Bond. The Walther P99 as of the guns Bond has used is the best one that he has used. --[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 10:31, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I want to see him with a PPS or something like that. The PPK is nice, but this isn't Ian Flemming's bond anymore. He is a more realistic action hero. A PPS in a IWB holster with a P99 or PPQ in his car. I like Craig as Bond because he is more gritty and honestly, less of a man whore. I have experience with a PPS and I think Bond would too.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:25, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I'm a huge fan of the Walther, and i would love to see him use his P99 again, i got a replica of it myself and it's really good. Especially is a Vega Holster!

In the book "Devil May Care", Bond looses his PPK frequently and is mostly seen using, of all things an [[M1911]]. That would be pretty cool. [[User:Scattergun|Scattergun]] 14:55, 8 April 2012 (EST)

While I maintain my opinion that the PPK, properly supplemented at appropriate times like in Quantum, is the only gun for Bond, I am sympathetic to the argument that he should be equipped with a more modern weapon. Therefore, I nominate the new SIG SAUER P224. It is of an appropriate size (unlike the Walther P99), has the proven professional pedigree of the P220/226 line, is of high quality (unlike the poor reputation-dogged Walther), isn’t the everyone’s gun the GLOCK is, and has some style and panache that the PPS, GLOCK, USP, and their polymer look-alikes lack. I would prefer 9mm for an agent operating worldwide, but the P224 is available in .40 and .357 SIG (now that’s a serious caliber). --[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 23:01, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:Of course the big problem with a non-Walther gun is that apparently the franchise has a fairly nice sponsorship deal going with Carl Walther GmbH. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:09, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

If the franchise has a big sponsorship with Walther, then why don't Walther make a gun especially designed for James Bond? It could be tailored to meet his needs (suggestions as to what they might be, please), and then they could release it for sale to the public. They'd make a fortune by selling it to James Bond fans, and serious shooters if it was very good. Q could make a big deal in-film about how good it is, and how Walther have made it especially for him. Good idea? Alasdair.

:Well, because imagine the PR when the gun made specially for James Bond is used to hold up a bank, they'd never hear the end of it, nevermind the kind of "MGM is arming our kids!" nonsense they'd get anyway. That and if you're a gun company exec and someone pitches that idea to you, your first reply would be "why not just have him use something we already make?" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:55, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

The whole debate about whether he should be using a PPK should be treated in the same way as whether it is realistic for Bond to engage in so many scuffles in nice, taper-fit Tom Ford suits and Church leather shoes. The cut is simply unrealistic for someone who wishes to conceal serious firepower. Given his obvious fondness for the Italian cut in his suits, it is fitting that Daniel Craig/James Bond should choose the PPK instead of the P99 he had used in the first movie, but, alas, such weapons remained adequate today for a Walter Mitty who would not see much more action. Since the 1970s, an operator carrying a PPK would simply not be taken seriously by fellow professionals, and would be laughed out of the Special Forces Club. A serious operator would simply rather wear a suit with the horrendous sack-like American cut, than do without a true combat pistol.

A former SBS operator would really be more likely to carry a SiG-Sauer P226. He might sacrifice two rounds to save 0.1 inch of butt length by carrying the P228, but someone who really means to can conceal either under a suit jacket. Even women operators could conceal a Heckler and Koch MP5K under their jacket. So the producer or director really missed a chance here to turn James Bond from being a mere walking advertisement for luxury brands to a more serious character (like back in Casino Royale).

Oh, by the way, using an Olympic Arms K23B is the ultimate mark of un-seriousness in a professional. Someone get that girl a HK 416.

:One word for you - TRADITION. Bond's always used a PPK (except in the first few novels), it's pretty much his signature gun. I'm glad they've gone back to it over the P99, which just never had the same classic feel to it.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 10:45, 1 August 2012 (CDT)

Of course. But that still means that the more edgy and realistic Daniel Craig reboot, which started so promisingly in Casino Royale, has now officially gone off the rails and U-turned back into cheesy entertainment territory. If that's the case, please give me back Pierce Brosnan's easy charm, Roger Moore's humour, or Sean Connery sheer animal charisma, not Daniel Craig's brooding sulkiness.

:I don't see how you can claim they've totally rejected the serious tone and gone back to being cheesy fun JUST because he's using the PPK again. Especially as you haven't even seen the film! I mean, do you not realise what a ridiculous jump in logic that is? That's like saying "Because Bond has a beard in one scene they're going to bring back Madonna."--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:51, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== What Happened??? ==

In [[Casino Royale (2006)]], Bond had good trigger discipline and kept good two handed grips on his guns, an now we have shots of him in a footchase pointing his PPK in front of him with his finger on the trigger... call me a safety Nazi but I expect better from a trained agent....--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:35, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

You mean the footchase at Tower Hill? Maybe, and correct me if i'm wrong he just shot someone....

I'm pretty sure Bond was chasing/shooting at someone so that would explain it [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:38, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

==CO19 holster weapons==

The lads from CO19 seem too have a Glock in their holsters. The norm for police carrying sidearms in the UK is a Glock 17, so its safe too assume that they are also Glock 17s.

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Several of the Bond forums have photo threads and their are images of the armourer hand the CO19 actors Glock 17s and G36s.

Regards,
Tecolote

==Trailer unknown gun==

The teaser trailer dropped today, and I have clocked an unknown gun around 1:11. It is scoped and suppressed, but I am unable too identify it. Can someone have a look and possibly screencap it? Cheers lads

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:It was an odd looking thing, whatever it is. It is mostly in shadow but you get one good whole weapon shot of it when there is a flash of light:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:I think if it is a real gun it is highly modified. My guess would be that it is a covert gun that passes as something else (like the [[(Day of the Jackal) - Custom Sniper Rifle|Day of the Jackal]] rifle), as the trigger is a random metal loop, and that vertical part is not a magazine, but appears to fold down from the front as a sort of monopod. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:06, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

It is some type of bolt action for sure,and definitely a covert job.
Regards,
Tecolote

The bolt looks like something off of an Accuracy International rifle.--[[User:6pulkpancerna|6pulkpancerna]] 11:37, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks, I should have known that as I was examining an AI in .300Win. the day before yesterday.

Regards,

Tecolote

I would say its a grease gun--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:26, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

:It deffinitely has nothing to do with an M3, as it is a bolt action feeding from a rifle size magazine (in the trailer it clearly shows the magazine being inserted into the rifle). The large vertical part appears to be a hand grip or support strut of some sort and is not a magazine. As for it being an Accuracy International I can see where you are coming from, but I don't think it is. First off the bolt stem on an AI AW curves backwards, and the bolt on this is straight. Also, the bolt is too far forward from the front of the weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:28, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Yeah, I was just kinda throwing it out there. If it is a M3, it looks like it is highly customized. But now I know it is not a M3.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:10, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

I don't think we'll be able to tell just from this. It looks almost like a custom mockup built around a real weapon. Hell, considering the unusual trigger, box-shaped suppressor, and various almost unrecognizable bits and pieces, it could very well be a completely inert prop with CGI firing. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 20:36, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

It could be a prototype weapon where the design has not been released to the general public. Otherwise, it is just a complete custom mockup.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:40, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

looking at the bolt area and where the stock attaches, my money would be on it being a PGM Ultima Ratio, obviously heavily mocked up, but impossible to say for sure without more pics - TheSpannaMunkee

it's not Bond who is using the gun like it says on the main page. --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 14:00, 4 August 2012 (CDT)

== Additional images to be Id'ed ==

These are some more images from the trailer. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:16, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

In order: 1. Bond's PPK, which he promptly reloads

2. I assume his HK416 during his house shootout

3. The strange mock-up seen above

4. A Glock, or possibly a SIG? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 01:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

[[File:SkyF 1002.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1003.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1005.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:I'm hoping the gun in that last image is a P99 [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
::Number 4 isn't a Glock and I don't think it's a SIG either, it looks to have a slide mounted safety like a Beretta 92FS but the front profile makes me think it's some sort of Browning variant. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:22, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

The gun on the last picture looks like a P99 to me...But a 92FS isn't a crazy thought, maybe he picked it up from a Silva tug or something..

I'm inclined to think either Browning or 1911 variant --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:07, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:I reckon it's probably some sort of Browning or 1911 variant, the frame looks too long to be a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:48, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
I've taken a new screencap of the silhouette of the strange SMG thing he has, the best I could find. It looks vaguely like the silhouette of a MAT-49, though I doubt that's what it is. Hope it helps nonetheless: http://i49.tinypic.com/359ecl3.png [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:43, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:Look a couble of sections up and you will see a cap of it in the light, where you can see it is actually cuilt on (if anything) a bolt action rifle. What you are seeing as a long SMG magazine is a cosmetic thing stuck on the weapon which appears to be folded forward for storage. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:05, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

You know, i guess it's maybe a H&K USP because it looks like it so much
:Number 4 could be a HK USP actually. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
Haha, someone who's agreed with me ;)
:Sign your posts though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:42, 24 May 2012 (CDT)
All right, will do. --[[User:Walther_arms|walther_arms]]

== trailer weapons ==

seen the new trailer bad guy seems to have custom take down sniper rifle fits with the mytos of the films allso looks like bond goes back to the p99 all i have seen is a bad blurry image but the trigger guard is defeniatly not a ppk jump in any one who can clear this up--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:49, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

ok the courtyard gun in the trailer 1 got a better look at it seems to be a glock 17 --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:46, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgr2syY_OU4&feature=youtu.be --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 09:58, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

:Awesome!! Just wanted to point out that there is also a slightly different US version, also viewable on the jamesbond007 channel on YouTube. I don't know about you guys, but I think this has some serious potential...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:54, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== Signature Walther PPK ==

a pistol Signature gun that only 007 can use did they not use this in license to kill in 1989 at least they upgraded the caliber to .380 acp (9mm x 17mm short) which is slightly better than the .32 acp (7.65x17mm) that was used in the books and films--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 14:51, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

Kinda. In License to Kill it was a sniper rifle disguised as a camera that was the gun that required a palm scan, not the Walther PPK [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:16, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== "12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun" ==

I've read that this is "Anderson Wheeler 500 Nitro Double Rifle" (source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465931593424952&set=a.430960320255413.102948.154596811225100&type=1&theater ); may it be true?
[[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 17:43, 2 August 2012 (CEST)
:I remember an article about a set visit where they were talking about the fact that the big bad in this film is fond of antique British weapons and uses percussion pistols and a .500 Nitro Express rifle, so that ID might be right. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:59, 2 August 2012 (CDT)
::I've changed the identification, since you are probably correct. For those who are interested, here is the company website: [http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/double_rifle.php Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle] --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer ==

I watched the new trailer this morning, and at the bit when Bond meets Q, I swear I could have heard Q saying the PPK is infact a PPK/S. Could be wrong, but did anyone else notice this? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:Yeah, it was even mentioned on the main page of Skyfall. I think it could definitely be a blued PPK/S based on the grip size. Can someone who knows PPKs better than I do confirm this?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:13, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

::Am I the only one who thinks that there might be a sort of shooting competition between Bond and Silva? I mean, look at the main page, where the P99 and the Flintlock pistols are. Bond is wearing the same suit, the background is the same and it's the same time of day. Just some food for thought --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 02:34, 3 August 2012 (CDT).
:::I don't think that's a P99, it could be the Glock that he has pointed at his head in the screenshot with Silva firing the Flintlock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:24, 3 August 2012 (CDT)

User talk:Gunmaster45

2012-07-21T02:10:22Z

Pistolpete:

'''Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the ''bottom'' of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks.''' - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Question about the M1911 ==
I was looking at "Gladys" and I was wondering, How the hell do you clean that thing? Don't you have to press that button below the barrel to take out the slide? Wouldn't the compensator block that button? --[[User:Ardtanker14|Ardtanker14]] 02:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

==Hi==
do you know what the CIA and the FBI carry for side arms?

I know that you are busy but you should try to get and imfdb app for the ipod or ipod touch that would be really cool you should talk to Bunny about it [[User:Toasty|Toasty]] 22:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

==Hey==
Sorry about the Brandon Soo Hoo thing. I was busy working on summer school stuff I had to do for the summer. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Future Weapons==
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
==Helicopter in The Marine==
Hey GM,
That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks==
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==Wanted==
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to [[Quantum of Solace]] go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
==Quantum of Solace==
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.

Hello my name is Toasty (well not my real name0 but I was wondering if you had the power of making someone an admin. because if you do I know someone who would really like to be one (if you're wondering if its me its not) if you have the answer just write it on my discussion page if it is not classified.

==Dirty Harry==

Just so you know, [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

==1911==

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.

:Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do ''so'' much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?

::It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.

::Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in ''[[Training Day]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]'' don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

==New stuff==

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the [[AK-47]] page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

:I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.

::Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?

:My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.

::OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".

: "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

== Your articles ==

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the ''[[Heat]]'' page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for ''[[Hollow Point]]'' or ''[[Last Action Hero]]'', but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.

:As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

== Current stuff ==

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your ''[[Hollow Point]]'' page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in ''[[The Fugitive]]''.

As far as the grenade launcher in ''[[Hollow Point]]'', it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.

::You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the [[Hollow Point]] page.

I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

==Heat==

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

::It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to ''you''.

::Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.

::From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.

:::So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.

::::All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.

::::Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on ''[[The Rock]]'' page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

==Defense Technologies==

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

[[Image:Federallabs37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (''[[RoboCop 3]]'' is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

== Great Work! ==

Thanks for uploading the poster for the [[Catch a Fire]] page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Response ==

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then [[Bad Boys II]], and it's MoviePropMaster2008's [[District B13]] with 37 guns. [[User: Alienqueen11]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the [[Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem]] page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on [[Toy Soldiers]]. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== About Language ==

Hey, I want to say good work on [[Heartbreak Ridge]], there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, [[User: Bunni|Bunni]], the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

:OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from ''Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels''), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

== MGS4 M1911A1 ==

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgnpNaJ6M0]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== .50 Caliber 1911? ==

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

[[Image:M1.50GI.jpg]]

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

== Nice work on Platoon ==

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)==
..''"how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?" ''
: I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

..''"I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."''
:Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

..''"Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."''
: I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

..''"Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."''
: The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.

::''Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better.'' -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Last Action Hero==
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

== Nice job ==

Hey, nice job on the [[Jurassic Park]] page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put [[A Beautiful Mind]] on your Pages Built list. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Re: Nice Job ==

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. [[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==M1911 shots by MPM2008==
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Uzi ==

About the [[Uzi]] page, you might want to leave a note on [[User: Bunni|Bunni's]] talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Training Day Revolver ==

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes.
Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg]]

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.

==Call of Duty 4 Pictures==

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

:Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'

hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.

Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki

== Re: Saving Private Ryan ==

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).

:Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.

::I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.

:::The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

==Good call on the xXx==
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329774/]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

==Dibbs==
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

== About the screencaps on COD4. ==

How did get them? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re:XXX==

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on ''[[Kelly's Heroes‎]]''. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on ''[[Where Eagles Dare]]''.

==On Kelly's Heroes==
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

==M1911s==
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Are you sure? ==

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

::What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

==Reign of Fire==
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008

==577 pic==
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

== The Punisher ==

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on [[Hard Boiled]] because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The [[Sin City]] talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''Tears of the Sun'' ==

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Re:Tybalts Gun==

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

==Ak recog==
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Jarhead'' M60E3 ==

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the [[M60 machine gun]], it has always had two [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240 machine gun]]s; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The [[Browning M2]] heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==animated gifs==
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.

[[Image:HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif]]
MPM2008

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Reign of Fire==
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

==...==

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008

::Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.

::BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

== Jaws ==

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping [[Jaws]]? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Top Pages ==

Very cool idea - nice work. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping [[Four Brothers]], and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]], so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Jaws]] is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==thanks==

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

[[Image:MyP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.

:As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...

:BTW, very nice job on the ''[[Last Man Standing]]'' page! Though I would recommend maybe being a ''little'' less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==crap==
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==Empty Pages I Created==
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. [[User:CyclopsScott|CyclopsScott]] 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==Western guns==
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hotel Rwanda==
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== The World Is Not Enough (video game) ==

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

==FYI==
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Walther P99 page ==

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

==Hollowpoint==
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

== American Gangster page ==

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

==the subject of "dibbs"==
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.

There you go, I cut the black bars off the [[Hostage]] screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on [[Hot Fuzz]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==fun gun==
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm]]
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Excellent work!! ==

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

==Movies to screengrab==
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

==Remington 870==
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Morita Rifle==
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bangkok Dangerous==
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==tropic thunder==
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==590==
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==You're not gonna believe this==
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==On some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Smokin' Aces ==

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have [[Smokin' Aces]]? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==New screencaps==
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Workload==
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:U.S. Marshals==

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== anonymous users ==

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Molotovs==
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

==Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics==
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)]]

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== the other Glock ==
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

==Alien Nation==
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ''Jingle All the Way'' ==

Thanks for the compliments on ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== The Dark Knight ==

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do [[The Dark Knight]], you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

::I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Got it for you==
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm]]

==T2==
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps on Commando==
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape. ==

You can do it.I don´t mind.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen ==
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

== Re: Scarface ==

I'll try to get more shots for [[Scarface]] when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on [[Mail Call]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.6.6.30]

This made me really pissed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a ''severe'' warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

==24==

Will you be around today to screen cap [[24]] Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on [[24]]. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on [[24]] the page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Lord of War==

Eh, depends. Main question is, how ''many'' additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the ''[[Lord of War]]'' page is one of the site's most popular.

::I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Tyrannasaurus ==

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Godfather ==

Thanks, ''[[The Godfather]]'' is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: The Departed==

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on ''[[Get Smart]]''! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), ''and'' I got two days off from work, ''and'' I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.

:Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Good suggestions! ==

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of ''[[The Getaway (1972)]]'' so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: The Untouchables ==

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Mail Call ==

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

I made some edits to it but they got erased. Why? I'm still working on screencapping yet, i didn't have enough time to add gun pics and you didn't add them. P.S When will you be getting season 3-8? [[User:Drjuki]]

Oh, ok. I thought you ment don't add any seasons since you were going to do that. I didn't know you were going to through the earlier seasons. You know who. Drjuki.

== The Untouchables ==

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

== XXX ==

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in [[Armageddon]], [[XXX]] and [[Death Race]]. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from [[We Were Soldiers]] that we had two miniguns mount on.

== Video Games ==

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

== Iron Man CAR15 ==

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M60E1 machine gun ==

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M1 Garand question ==

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the '''M60''', I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
[[Image:M60SnapShotOnSet.jpg]]
:Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

==Re:Hitman==

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances.
[[User: Charon68]]

==Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" ([[Lance Henriksen]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.]]
[[Image:Remington1875Q&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod ([[Gene Hackman]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.]]
[[Image:Remington1875SilverQ&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.]]

Like it? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I got more, but they're not western related ==
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Replacing some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Your page format==
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==SOCOM Mk 23==
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Hitman==

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gunner313 ==

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Iron Giant'' ==

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shoot 'Em Up.==

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==push==
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Legends of the Fall ==

Hi, I congratulate you for you work!
Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film?
Sorry for my bad english.

== Legends of the Fall (again) ==

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

== shotgun in Thunderball ==

Hey I just posted screenshots from ''[[Thunderball]]'' and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a [[Remington 870]]) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Tanks for your answer ==

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.

==SIG==

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for ''Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft'' (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Rundown==
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are '''not''' what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also '''replace''' any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Blank revolver question==
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shit==

I just did an edit on ''[[The Rundown]]'' while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Norinco SKS Sporter==
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

==Blank revolvers==
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

==The Rundown==
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shootemup==
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Legends of the Fall==
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

==Street Kings==

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the ''[[Street Kings]]'' page. And I literally just mean a few:

*(1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
*(2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
*(3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect.
--[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.

:Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates ([[Common]]) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Unforgiven Shotgun==

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, Check out the photo of the W. Richards that I just posted. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Dust hit gun==
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

==Review on Wanted==
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. '''Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. ''' I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that '''Darth Vader is Luke's father''', some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==watermark==
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
'''Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1'''
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== some Westerns ==

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for ''[[The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford]]'' and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on ''[[American Outlaws]]'' which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: Boondock Saints==

Dude, armory scenes in movies ''always'' suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' or ''[[The Matrix]]''. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an ''extremely'' regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - ''[[Menace II Society]]'' and ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1897==

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Appaloosa==
Hey John
Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
:No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix==
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little ''''squished''''. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

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BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Admins==
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
::Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

== Speakeasy804 ==

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Need your help here==
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

[[Image:MMS-Twin-Silenced-Pistolsa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]
[[Image:MMS-TwinSilencedPistols2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]

Here are the candidates that people suggested:
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkCamperSS.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmark2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk II - Silenced]]
[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II]]

What do you think? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
::When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith==
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
[[Image:MMS-QuoteCorrect.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.]]
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

==Colt 25?==
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Re: Sgt. York ==
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant==
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Pages Lock Out==
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with [[The Wild Geese]] can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== 1911's and other models. ==

Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an '''old''' cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.

I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned ''seven'' of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.

Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.

However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a [[Webley Mk VI]] - which is my pride and joy.

I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?

Talk to you later. [[Jcordell]]

Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a [[Savage 99]] rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. [[Jcordell]]

== Thanks for your help ==

Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]
Ah - ha! Got it.

The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.

== Winchester Model 1895 ==

I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.

I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== My job here ==

Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Colt Troopers. ==

Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.

==Colt Mustang==
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008

==S&W MkII Hand Ejector==
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

==orphaned image==
What is this from? It's not linked to any page.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg
MPM2008

==Bergmann MP18==
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve

== ''CSI: Miami'' S&W Semi-Auto ID ==

I don't think the pistol shown on ''[[CSI: Miami]]'' is a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5946|S&W 5946]]. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4046|Smith & Wesson 4046]] does have a right-handed safety though. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

==In the Line of Fire Llama==
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve

==XM16E1==

Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve

==Idea for New Page==
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

== M4 vs. M4A1 ==

The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Young Guns ==

Great job with ''[[Young Guns]]''! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't ''something'' they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:: Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.

==RE: RoboCop 2==

Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."

Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== re: Nice Work ==

Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on ''The Untouchables'' page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that!
Also, I'll peruse ''The Godfather'' sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake.
On a different note, great job with the first ''Dirty Harry''. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have ''Casino Royale'' so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get ''Quantum of Solace'' pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is ''Never Say Never Again'' which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with ''Magnum Force'' as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:::I never saw ''Flashpoint'' but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw ''Magnum Force'' is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Gunmaster,
Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman==
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== KAC SR-25 ==

If you read the paragraph at the top of the [[Knight's Armament SR-25]] page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hello other-young-gun-nut ==

I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--[[User:GlocksRevilACP|GlocksRevilACP]] 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Beretta 9000S==
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008

== Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp ==

If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp ''Sudden Impact'' and ''The Dead Pool'' as well because they are pretty weak.

== Hostage Molotovs ==

While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.

:That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.

==Colt 1903 new page==
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT Pistols page==
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
:: Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. ''"No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!"'' So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Last crusade==
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redacted==
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.

::Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM

==Thanks for the reply==
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008

==addendum==
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008

== Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]] ==

You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in [[The Enforcer]]. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]]. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Great. thanks. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question==
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==VIP==
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008

==VIP gun help==
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008

== Diamondback or Python ==

Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping ''[[The Enforcer]]'', so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, ''[[Magnum Force]]''. What do you think? [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in ''[[The Enforcer]]''. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in ''[[Magnum Force]]''. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Outlaw Josey Wales ==

Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?==

Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

==Collateral==
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:: John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
* ''[[Miracle at St. Anna]]'' filling out the page
* ''[[Bullets or Ballots]]''
* ''[[Warbirds]]'' A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
* ''[[Lady Gangster]]''

Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.

==Winchester 1892==
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Category:Flare Pistol==
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks for the assist. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM

==Seecamp==
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008

==RE:==

Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go ''too'' crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the ''[[Belly]]'' AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bourne Identity (1988) ==

Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008

==Did you take this picture?==
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg

== Help ==

How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? [[User:Drjuki]]

Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. [[User:drjuki]]

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'll remember to use move instead, some anonymus user created the page before I tried redirecting it. I know I haven't done any work in a long time, once in awhile I'll find a movie I want to screencap, right now I'm thinking about uploading some extra shots for [[I Am Legend]]. Btw, good job on you most recent pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I found a few good shots in the movie that were missed, although I'm not completely comfortable about replacing someone else's screengrabs, so I might put some screenshots on the talk page for anyone who's more comfortable with replacing them. Also, I've seen Ctone's blog too, and he does a great job, especially with his screenshots. I think I might get started screencapping now since I have alot of free time. Thanks for the Redirect btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I got so far, and I'll be uploading more tomorrow as well. If you have any suggestions for screenshots, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

==Madness Combat==
Does anyone where i could post a madness combat page, i have like tewlve pages filled with guns and I HAVE TO POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Drjuki]]

No i know i can't post them here, i was just wondering if you knew a site where i could. [[User:Drjuki]]

== I Am Legend ==

Sure, I'll get pictures when I put the DVD in.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Call of duty 2 ==

Hey i don't plan these i just add pics if it needsem or add text if it needs em. I don't even have half the games i edit on here. [[User:Drjuki]]

Yes I was. [[User:Drjuki]]

== RE: COD4(DS) ==
Beacause I've seen some site that listed them. IMFDB Isn't the only site that has weapons in Anime, Movies, TV, And Video Games you know. Sure it's the best one but, you know there are some sites. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S The reason I don't write very well is because I am not used to writing without spellcheck, and grammer check. [[User:Drjuki]]

That is a good I will do that. [[User:Drjuki]]

== Pictures ==

I have a question, if there was a movie where a guy got his head blown off but he had a gun in his hand, would users be allowed to take that pic and other gruesome images? [[User:Drjuki]]

Would you be able to tell me a list of pages that have those? Not all them but just the ones you know. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

== Contact Info? ==

Hey GM45, I was wondering, do you have any instant messenger programs or the like? I'd like to chat with you off-site if possible. You can send your contacts to the email address listed on my userpage if you'd prefer to keep from getting spammed. Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey um, i have a website that has a chatroom on it it's kinda a failed project it's not done yet, if so how's may 9th 3:30?
heres the link http://charlietheunicornstuff.synthasite.com/

You know what f**k that [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

==Re:Appaloosa==
Hey John, Glade you like the film I enjoyed it. Most armories will not give credit to the designer or build for fear they client will go direct to the designer next time around. I only have one armory that tells everyone what I build for them. I will work on those 8 Gauge photos this weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Not sure who did the sound for the show. They most likely re-recorded all the gunfire as they plan to make a second movie. That way the will have their own sound library for the next show.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Appaloosa screencaps. ==

Looking forward to your screencaps. It's a great movie and the page has been needing some help. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Probably one of the best westerns I've seen in years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:Hey John, Nice work on the [[Appaloosa]] page. I am going though the build photos for the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] now and hope to post late tonight the photos and some background with them. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

== When we're gone... ==
What are we going to do when are syops and admins start leaving? When we die, (not literally but not go here anymore) what will happen? Will we appoint new ones? (P.S I've helped out every call of duty page, so thats 10 pages!) Or will we just shut down this site? Will we start making pages for Halo and gears of war when lasers come out? Drjuki.

== Flash ==

Could we make a seperate IMFDB for just flash? We could call it IFFDB (Internet Flash Firearms DataBase)? Drjuki.

==Can You use this anywhere?==
[[Image:TaurusPT92-2tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Taurus PT92 Two Tone - 9mm]]
Another MPM 2008 Image.... ;) MPM2008

==More for your Shootem up page==
[[Image:TaurusPT92AF-Reverse2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Reverse Two Tone Taurus PT92AF - 9mm]]
The arm has a reverse two tone gun like this one. I think this image can help. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==blanks==
I am super busy today, but I am going to look at one of our Hollywood blank and perhaps take a pic of how the cardboard wad is constructed and send it off. regards. MPM2008

== Deadwood ==

Hey GM, I just screencapped the first season of ''[[Deadwood]]''. Since you're a pro with that time period, I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a look at all if you have a chance just to check to see if I've been getting things right? Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 21:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about my late response, I've been busy between work and finishing the Deadwood page. It's all done now so I'll go through looking for errors and discrepancies, etc., etc. I appreciate your information added about the S&W Models 1 and 2, which I'll try to sort out once I can find good gun pictures for each to use. In response to grouping the SAAs together, I would do so (as I normally do) but since I took a large number of screencaps, I decided it would be at least a semi-logical way to split it up. The ''[[Joe Kidd]]'' page looks great of course; very interesting to see a C96 used in a Western (although it's a shame they used the typical Hollywood bottomless magazine!) Finally, I'm very impressed by "Gladys" your 1911! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taken==
Go ahead, John. I was planning on going to get it, but a shitload of work just came my way. Happy hunting. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==Joe Kidd==
Hey John, Looking over the Joe Kidd page you built looks nice. I believe that the Colt 1877 Lightning you show in the capture is a Colt 1878 Double Action in 45 Long Colt. Also the Lightning photo you posted in the Lightning page for Kill Bill is a Cimarron Lightning Single Action. If thats the case does that go in the Single Action Army page like the Uberti's? -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, You are correct I would only add strange Uberti, Hartford and others that were used like the Hartford Model Sheriff and Pinkerton that we used in the Streets of Laredo. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Admin ==
Hey how many pages do you have to edit or make to become a admin? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Matrix: Revolutions ==
Hey, I didn't know whether to put this here or on the Matrix page, but I'll put it both places.
I'd kind of like to do M:R but I saw that you had it down on your to do list. It's yours if you want it, but you might have bigger stuff on your plate. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 05:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, go ahead! --[[Special:Contributions/207.108.206.237|207.108.206.237]] 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: your guns ==
I'd never taken a look at your firearm collection before, but did today. You have some awesome stuff. Being a sucker for 1911's I really like Gladys, and the "Spanish Llama XV" guns. This is really not a post of any real value, but damn. Those are amazing.
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood's page ==

Would you have a problem if I began organizing some of the larger actor pages, such as Eastwood's, chronologically and by film to make them easier? I'd leave the same photos and everything but I just feel the pages should be in some sort of order. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 23:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Desert Eagle Love ==

Thanks, and yes, I know that it is a pretty impractical weapon (don't rub it in), but a few folks I know just like that weapon. I'm just a big fan of large caliber weapons, and I'm just one of those few who just, well you know. Anyways, I'm honored to have become a user on this site. P.S. Thanks for the pointer!
- [[User:500Magnum]]

==I owe you an apology on the Model 60==
Well, today I saw the owner of the Model 36 in satin nickel and he said 'that's not in satin nickel. I was talking about another gun. That's stainless', WTF? That's not what I remembered, but oh well. I popped it open and it is still marked Model 36, so I queried more about why it was marked Model 36-2 and he 'forgot' to mention that it was a factory missmark and thus was collectible. So my tirade about the Model 60 being a custom Model 36 seems a bit unnecessary. I showed him the IMFDB site and he basically concurred, there is nothing about that gun that makes it different from a Model 60 other than the weird factory model stamping which no one can see. I'm no S&W expert, but he set me straight and pointed out that I was wrong to complain about others naming it a 'model 60' when for all intents and purposes, it looks just like one. So I owe you an apology regarding the Model 36/Model 60. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== I like your pictures ==

I'd also like to comment on your pictures, and I think those are pretty good. You must have worked hard to get them.
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
What I meant to say was your screencaps were good; excuse me. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

== New IMFDB? ==
This is hyothetical, say there were some movies I liked and I wanted just them on a site. So I make a website with let's say the matrix. now let's say I copied and pasted descriptions and copied pics from imfdb. Would I be able to do that if I say that I got them from Imfdb.org? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 22:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok That wasn't hypothetical, I'd already done it and wanted to make sure I could keep it. Don't worry. I deleted it. no more. I hope you don't sue me for everything i've got. (P.S. I'm only 10 so that won't work very well.) (P.S.S. Why won't you shoot the nambu?

== I am Legend ==

I got the last screenshots for I Am Legend up, and sorry for the really long delay. how does it look now?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and no problem, I'm glad those templates are gone too, I don't understand why Dragon would even use them when they looked bad, plus we never needed them anyway, I mean it's not that hard to make a simple phrase at the top of each page. About the forum, I signed up for it a few months ago, but I lost my password, I'll be sure to sign up for it again eventually since it appears to be really active. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Pineapple Express ==

Thanks for warning me about the widescreen bars. It took a while, but I removed all of the bars on each of the caps I saved. Tommorrow, I'll replace the ones I aleready posted, and continue my work on the page. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep this in mind for my future postings.
--[[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 12:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Comments in Articles ==
I have relocated several comments of yours from the body of the article to the discussion page. All signed comments should be posted in the discussion page. Otherwise, great work, keep it up. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandals ==
What would you do if some one erased mail call. Like they made a account just to vandalise. and if i put sucks on Twilight, would it count as vandalism? P.S can you tell me when you're done with mail call? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't you think you got it when you're done with mail call, could you tell me that you're done on my talk page? (P.S. I've looked at my contributions and i've made 545 edits! sadly none of them are screencaps, so I can't be a admin yet :( and hey I made a spongbob page (for fun) and I can't beleve how fast it dissapeared! could you tell me who and what happened to it? and hey how old were you when you got made an admin and when you joined?) (P.S.S. The reason I didn't make any screencaps is that my dad won't show me the program that we have because he doesn't like guns and sorry I'm asking so many questions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Help with Identifying Guns ==
hi, I was talking to a friend and he said that he saw 2 unusual weapons on CSI, i was wondering if you could tell me whether or not they were real

the first was a gun that, somehow was able to shoot 2 rounds into the same wound whilst only clicking the trigger once. (sorry if its quite vague); and the other was a gun that was known on CSI:Miami as the "Vapouriser", in the show it turned a person into a mist of blood.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 22:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man ==

thanks for the help man, a said to my friend I thought that the "vapouriser" wasnt real, but he was adamant about it.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== "Gladys" ==
: That is one nice 1911 you have there.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Don't refinish her - she's beautiful as is and truly unique. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 21:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Last Boy Scout Page==
I read on page ''The Last Boy Scout'' that you want to restore it. I had not noticed that your message and I have already prepared all the screencaps and some information (work at 50%). Can I prepare that page or want it you? Or you want my screencaps and you write the description because I spoke bad English? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
::I think that your work will certainly be better than mine. I asked you just to know what was your job. If you're ready to upload good work! ^_^ - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Mail Call ==

I know you don't listen to me and use this to make the score bigger, but counting the REPEATS of weapons already establish. The Garand, the M16 repeats at least 3 times and you counted them into the score. That's just stupid. It's like if I take the 4 seasons of the Unit an counted 1 for every time I see a firearm, even though I have already established that we do see it from season 1. I put down M4s, but I don't do it 4 different times because this rifle has appeared in all the seasons, I just put images of how the rifle looks from each season under the M4 category. I label each section, handguns, SMGs, rifles, etc and put weapons under each regardless of the seasons they've appeared in. The format you've done for Mail Call makes it very messy and kind confusing and VERY unnecessarily LONG. I'm not dissing your efforts, I just think you over did it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Commando Tranquilizer Pistol==
Hey John, I noticed on another blog the Bennett had a tranquilizer pistol pointed and Matrix. Do you have a screen capture on this. I would pull it but I don't have the movie. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey John, Thanks for getting that screen cap later it was just miss identified as a Crossman Air Pistol. I figured that I would fix that little error. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Last Boy Scout Page ==

I have some screencps of various weapons that you haven't published in the page. Can I add them or you're still working on the project? I do not want to ruin your work. If you want I can show them before posting. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:I asked you only because I thought you had finished to post all the images. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Deadliest Warrior ==

Can you ID the Colt Revolver on my [[Deadliest Warrior]] page? Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Deleted article ==

Why did you delete the article for Perfect Dark? Was there something wrong with it I should know about? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Taps ==

Was limited in my resources when I first created the page. Thanks for not wiping out my contributions all together (which has happened before)and excellent work on the caps [[ User:Charon68|Charon68]]

==sorry==
I am sorry if you had issues with my categorizing the firearms lists of various pages. I only did so becaues I found it to be more organized on longer articles than the simple listing method used on shorter pages. I agree with you that since I did not write the original article I have no right to completely alter its format. I am sorry I did so and will cease making these changes in the future.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I just recieved your message thanking me for my cooperation. I had no idea that the one undoing all of my changes was the articles original author (I probably should have checked though) and had I been aware would have desisted immediatly. A simple message would have been enough to make me aware of my mistake, therefore the ultimatum included in your first message was both unnecessary and unappreciated. In the future if you could alert me to my mistakes without the use of threats I would be appreciative. I apologize if a sound angry at all (I'm not, nor do bear you any grudge) I was just slightly offended by the manner in which you told me stop changing page format.
:-Anonymous

== Help for new idiot... ==

Gunmaster45,

I saw your edits to a page (Thief) I created. I am very new, so forgive my indiscretions and errors in protocol. I was wondering if it would be possible to explain how to generate the table of contents present on each page. This is the boxed heading at the top of each page showing each gun and when clicked, takes you directly to each section (gun). I wasn't sure if posting this question here is proper, but I haven't found the help area that explains this action.

Thanks for your help in editing, and I have to say your work is excellent and I will strive to emulate your talent here on this site. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help, Gunmaster45! I appreciate your fast response. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Your suggestions for screencap editing are welcome. I will strive to adhere to the protocols in the future. I was using a poor, non-widescreen version for the screencaps. I have the WS DVD on order and will try to capture next week. If you decide to screencap similar scenes in the meantime, have at it! Thanks for the help. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 06:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Picture Assistance==
I have been contributing to this website for a long time and have written several articles and provided additions to many others. However, while I identify gun use in my pages and include pictures of the firearms (taken from other articles on this site) I have never been able to figure out how to upload pictures to this site from outside sources. Any instruction you can provide on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. My computer skills are mediocre to say the least, therefore I would be greatful if you could make the instructions as simple as possible.
:-Anonymous

==Thank You==
I followed your instructions on how to post images from outside sources and found them both easy to comprehend and effective. Thank you for showing me how to do this so that I can greatly improve my articles.
:-Anonymous

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix Screencap==
I noted on the Matrix discussion page that I was conducting a test and had realized that the existing screencaps are distorted, but the image is exactly the same as yours (the exact frame actually). Nothing on the page has changed, other than the fact that it was not uploaded by you. When people change pages, they're actually CHANGING the page, i.e. making the content different. I will only replace screenshots if they're distorted or crap. Yours were not crap, but I noticed that they seemed stretched upwards and I conducted a test to verify that. MPM2008

== Crossfire Trail ==
That would be great. It's a good western made in the older Hollywood style. It was directed by Simon Wincer who also directed [[Lonesome Dove]] I just bought a brand new Dell computer which will allow me to do screencaps, but right now I'm busy with household stuff and it's still sitting in it's box along with the 20" Hi-def screen --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a little research through my ''American Rifleman'' back-issues. Found some useful info about the guns used by [[Tom Selleck]] in his many westerns in the May 2002 issue.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Quigley Down Under ==

All it says is that there were three Shilo Sharps No. 3 rifles in 45-110 manufactured for him to use in the movie. It's my understanding that one of the rifles was donated to the NRA museum by Selleck.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what I figured. Oh by the way I picked up a Luger a few weeks ago. Manufactured in 1916 at the Erfurt goverment arsenal. Shoots like a champ.Here is a so-so picture I took.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There it is. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Luger One.JPG|thumb|350px|none]]

== Cool Guns ==

I've long considered the Luger P08, Mauser C96 Broomhandle, and the Webley Mk VI revolver to be "cool" handguns. Oh sure there are better handguns out there and certainly more modern handguns, but that itn't the point. Since I was your age (really) I have wanted an example of those three handguns. I now own a Webley Mk VI and a Luger. Perhaps one of these days I'll get a Broomhandle. We'll see. Your dad has a nice Luger there by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your dad has the C96 carbine? Partner you absolutely have to get a photo of that sucker posted. Lucky S.O.B. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==I see you replaced my pic==
And it wouldn't be so bad if your pic was better, but it's not. The contrast ratio is still 'muddy' and color saturation is still weaker. I thought you were more mature than this. I guess I was wrong. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==my apologies==
Like usual, you have a good (and mature beyond your years) explanation for your actions. I apologize. I must keep remembering that you are not like 99% of the guys .. ON the internet ... most of whom are petty. I see so much pettiness on the net that I sometimes forget that this is not the case everyone. THANKS for the explanation. And again, I apologize :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Matrix Reloaded==

I see you're re-vamping the page. Well and done, and good work so far. But I beg of you...please try and limit yourself to 5 screencaps per gun? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:What I would recommend if you have shots that look cool but you've reached the limit is to post them on the discussion page for other people to look at. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Call of duty ==

Hey i found some pics that i could use to TOTALLY revamp COD2, COD4, COD5, and soon MW2. If you could Ok it that would be great. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey i hope you saw COD2 took me all night. P.S. i'm done with COD4 it's awesome, and tommorow i'll work on COD4 (DS), and COD5. P.S.S. great job on The Matrix Revolutions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Screencap assisstance==
I am a little confused on what it is necessary to obtain sceencaps. I am under the impression that specific software is required inorder to play movies in a manner so that screencaps be taken. If that is the case where can this software be obtained.
:-Anonymous

==Payback edit mistake==
I recently viewed the changes you made to the ''[[Payback]]'' article. While I agree completely with your eliminating the Smith & Wesson model 29 and 28 sections and replacing them with one section on the model 27, I noticed that you got rid of the section on the Beretta 92 Porter uses akimbo with his 27. This weapon was definitely present in the film therefore I am confused as to why you omitted it. I have not changed this myself for fear I might accidentally undo some addition or correction.
:-Anonymous

==Commentary==
I always love your commentary, GM. -protoAuthor

==Payback response==
I contacted you immediately after noticing the omission. I checked the article shortly after finishing my message and noticed the change but did not have time to negate my comment before you responded.
:-Anonymous

==Payback again==
I noticed that you eliminated the section on the Smith & Wesson model 38. I am not necessarily disputing your actions I just don't entirely understand it because it looked like the gun was used based on the screencaps that were included.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
Sorry
:-Anonymous

==New Template==
Concerning the new template used to categorize information on recent actor articles, I was wondering whether existing articles would be retroactively changed to fit the new format or if it will be required on future pages.
:-Anonymous

== Payback Page ==

I know that the pages I do are horrible and very bad and I have no objection if someone restores this works, I'm even glad of it, but it was nice to be informed before the repubblication that 8 hours of my work are destroyed. Good job anyway. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:If you've forgotten to advice me it means that there is no problem. I misunderstood your action. It's all ok. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Gran Torino ==

Hey GM45, Great work on Payback, it looks awesome. I also would like to know when you plan on screencapping [[Gran Torino]]? Because it's a good movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it's page completed. I'm not trying to rush you or anything, I'm just curious.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday ==
Your birthday is on the 27th? Mine is on the 30th! It is quite funny how they are so close together.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
I am sorry I made such amateur mistake, considering how similar the two guns are in most aspects I did not think that such a crucial difference existed. You were certainly in the right to remove my comment and I greatly appreciate your explaining the reason to me. On another subject, I was curious if you could get back to me on the Template question I posted 4 sections above.
:-Anonymous

==Template Comment==
Actually, I rather don't care for the new template. I looked at the text in the editing and saw that it is extremely complicated to create. In addition, while the new system presents more information in a more organized fashion, I find it less aesthetically pleasing that the older, simpler format. While I have no problem with the new template being used, I contacted you because I was hoping that contributors who prefer could still create articles using the older format.
:-Anonymous

==Template==
I understand that people will use the new template and have no problem with that. However, I am worried that it will be retroactivly applied to existing articles whether or not article's contributors approve.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Per the anonymous user's comment, (since I can't reply to him) The template only applies to ACTOR pages and Gun pages. No one user has ownership of an Actor page or gun page. Users have 'some' rights over MOVIE/TELEVISION/ANIME/VG pages that they have worked hard on, but that's only a courtesy. If something is horrendously wrong, like a new user creates a hideous page, they have no right to keep a stupid page (like the guy who put 'The Ring'' as a page, WTF?). MPM2008

== Another opinion on new template ==
I don't like it. And personally I don't think I'm going to use it on pages I start. Guess that's me just being an old asshole. sorry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're right. Just being muleheaded.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy early Birthday ==

Thanks GM, I was just wondering, Happy birthday in advance by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

==Payback yet again==
I noticed you removed all of my responses on the ''[[Payback]]'' page to your comments about mistakes the characters or filmmakers made. I realize that my comments made the text about the images rather lengthy and I apologize if they made you feel that I was being overly critical of you, but the reason I wrote them was because ''Payback'' is one of my favorite films and I felt the need to defend it when any justification could be made for its errors. I do not intend to replace my comments, however, deleting them while entirely disregarding the arguments they presented (my Walther-Bersa feature mistake excepted) seems a little discourteous. Once again I am sorry for giving you so much grief over this page the last couple of weeks, but as I stated this is one of my favorite films and I just wanted to see it done justice.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I realize you enjoy pointing out the gun-related errors films make (I really do as well to be honest) and I have no issue with that whatever. In fact, the majority of your criticisms I left alone because I found them to be fully justified. The only comments I made were pertaining to mistakes I thought could justified such as missing at a close distance because the target is concealed or useing a poor grip because the size and location of a target make a hit guaranteed. I know some of the excuses have shaky foundations, but sense I enjoy the film so much I have been grasping at straws to vindicate it. I don't mind your removing them so much as I hope you at least considered what they said first. I will try to stop beating a dead horse and refrain from further commenting on this film, however I am not entirely sure I can restrain myself. ;)
:-Anonymous

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, I did notice you were using the template on the Actors pages it looks good with the info all cleaned up. I will note down about the boxed template and see what everyone else says. That's a good idea of your to clean up the Test page so everyone can use it for cut and paste. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

That does look good with the boxes on the [[Daniel Roebuck]] page. We'll have to see what the others say on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey John, My newest entry I have posted at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]] you might like it also.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Weeds Desert Eagle ==

Are you sure that it is a .44 Magnum. I own one and it is what I originally had listed but reading up I found that it was a .357. I will double check.

== RE:Frackyou ==
I saw on the Mail Call discussion page and was wondering what was the Taunting User Name? Oh and P.S. I hate little F***ers who do that to. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight actors ==
WTF? Why do we have Actor pages for them didn't use any guns? Who even pu them up their? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Deleted Article Question==
As an administrator I was hoping you could answer a question I had regarding some deleted articles. I noticed recently that the Television pages for ''American Dad'', ''Family Guy'', and ''The Simpsons'' had all been deleted. This seemed logical as animated programs such as these may not provide detailed enough images of firearms to definitively say what weapons the images were supposed to represent making these pages rather out of place on this website. However I noticed that the article for ''[[King of the Hill]]'' still exists which has better animation quality, yet still seems to have some of the issues as other animated pages. In addition, there are many other articles mostly on older video games and some animated works that have these problems. Why is it some questionable articles are deleted while others remain? I am not complaining about the decisions made, I am just curious about the process that leads to an articles deletion.
:-Anonymous

== True Lies ==

Thanks, and sure. I don't know why the widescreen for that movie is like that, same thing happens to [[Armageddon]], and [[Broken Arrow]]. If you can get better screenshots, then sure, go for it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Fantastic new caps from ''[[Public Enemies]]''! I'm definitely going for the first day it comes out, I'm a huge Mann fan as well (since you said it, I figure it won't sound as bad if I did haha) and I did a report on Dillinger in 7th grade and I've been fascinated with all that since then. I sure hope my teachers weren't worried about me after that :-/ Anyway, especially good call identifying the .38 Super M1911A1 machine pistol that Dillinger used. I'm really glad Mann used that, as neither of the other Dillinger films I've seen had it! If only there was a way we could share duties capping that when it's out on DVD. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 04:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Haha, thanks I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll get a ton of good shots but you always add so much to the pages that as I'm putting them on, you'll have valuable input to help. I'll be watching both the 1945 and 1973 Dillinger movies the night before, I guess to try and make it my own kind of marathon? Had you seen either, I definitely recommend the '73 version especially with Warren Oates and the great John Milius directing it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::One book that does a great job is the ''Public Enemies'' book written by Bryan Burroughs, it covers Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, and the Barker-Karpis Gang. Really a very interesting book with a ton of stuff if you're looking to check some of the accuracy of the movie. I read the script actually (a few months ago so it'd still be pretty fresh) and I think they took a few liberties with ''who'' was involved with the gang and when they were captured/died/etc., but with things like that it might progress the story in their favor to have it play out a different way. I'm just glad that PE will be featuring a wide variety of guns as well. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Also, happy birthday! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vacancy ==

Thanks for all corrections to the page. I use to put the Screencaps in that way because first I showing good the main actor with the weapon and then the others. But I have no problem to applied the caps in a different way.

== CODWAW ==
Finally done! Tell me what you think. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Ad Question==
I noticed the wide variety of new advertisers on this site. I am slightly confused over some of the new sponsers. While many of the ads are not surprising, I have seen ads promoting cosmetics and high-heeled shoes. Are these people unaware of the demographic this site caters to or are the ads simply generated randomly.
:-Anonymous

== RE: New profile picture ==
Quite the badass GM! Don't let anybody tell you akimbo isn't cool. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, if Hugo Weaving is coming at you, it's a good idea to throw out as much lead as you can, eh?
::I'm just yankin' your chain man! ;) --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Anytime you get a bunch of young guys in a group, their IQ goes way down. I've found myself doing dumb things(thankfully not with firearms) while in groups. Good luck with that! --[[Special:Contributions/75.175.64.56|75.175.64.56]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday ==

Hey GM45, just wanted to say Happy Birthday, I hope you're enjoying it and got everything you wanted. Thanks for your work on AvP by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on [[Gran Torino]], it is a good movie. Awesome work on [[Freddy vs. Jason]] too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
For your help on the Goldeneye/BDA/BDM thing.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's already been done-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I saw that, I edited the BDA pictures back to 600, but they got changed. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::oh yeah, i have a good sized moniter, but those jsut they appear too large.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Don't touch the SEALS page==
I have the screencaps that were left over from the first pass. I just haven't put them on yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Tightrope==
Hey John, I am checking to see if you have the Eastwood movie Tightrope. Let me know as I my need a screencap off of it. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 04:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I will PM you over on the forum for the answer. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: What did you think? ==

First off, I loved it. I feel like Mann really put a lot into this one (as well as the cast/crew, etc., giving credit where it's due of course) but I was incredibly impressed. I feel like they had done extensive research and used that to make the story so good. Like you said, the creative license with Nelson/Floyd/killings during Michigan City jailbreak/etc. may have been wrong but I feel like it did help to move the story forward for viewers not quite as knowledgable to the rest story as people like us ;)

Mann also proved that just because a movie takes place in the 1930s doesn't mean you only need to have 1911s and Thompsons. I noticed a bunch of the guns you had, such as the 1903A3s. I didn't get as good a look at the Winchesters, like the one used to wound Dillinger (I think the guy who wounded him in real life was John Shipley but I don't quite recall. I think the Sioux City bank robbery in the film was a mix of Dillinger's three 1934 bank robberies after his escape). I noticed a lot of revolvers, like the Colts you mentioned. I think I saw some with Smith & Wesson grips at one point but I can't remember when it was. I'm sure I'll go again to see it at some point this weekend so I'll be more eagle-eyed. Although I had especially noticed the shot of the Thompson during the Racine robbery and thought "that'd be GREAT for imfdb!" as well as a bunch of other shots. Amazing what this website does for the movie-watching experience haha

I was trying to do some shot-counting but it became difficult for me to sometimes discern who was shooting. But I agree; Bale looked steel-eyed when he was firing his 1911 at Nelson (also I noticed he kicked what looked like a nickel 1911 out of Pretty Boy Floyd's hand; I heard/read that the only nickel 1911s around during that era were the ones chambered in .38 Super. Do you know if this is true?)

Anyway I hope you enjoyed it, I know I certainly did. My friends were a bit confused by who the characters were exactly (which I could understand, Mann went right into the story!) but I was blown away! Another good (but long!) book to pick up if you have the time is a book called DILLINGER by William J. Helmer I believe. It goes very indepth into the story. The last couple summers my friends and I have been working on making our own ''Pretty Boy Floyd'' film but now it's gonna be pretty tough to avoid copying almost directly from PE! Hope I didn't ramble too much here - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

:Now that would be impressive! What all would you need to convert one to resemble, if not operate, like the one Dillinger had? Also I was just remembering the early scene in which Dillinger disassembled the Thompson - do you happen to recall if they showed Depp doing it himself or if they cut to just a set of hands? I'm just curious as to whether or not he had done it himself; Mann seems to make sure his actors are well trained with firearms (notably Cruise in ''[[Collateral]]'' of course). Also, I just found this interesting message board thread while browsing imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/board/flat/141781630. Covers a bunch of the accuracy things we were talking about. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Public Enemies==
Hey John, Lets see if I can fill in some of the gaps on this. I restore the weapons for Gibbons Ltd used by John Depp and weapons were also supplied by ISS.
* Johnny Depp's Colt 1911A1's were chambered for .45 ACP blanks they represented the real Dillinger's Colt 38 Supers. As of this time there are no 38 Super weapons or blanks in the industry.
* 1928A1 Thompsons the way we have them listed in everything is an error that I have yet figured out how to resolve. The weapons on the show are whats called a 1928 which is the same externally as a 1921 the difference is internal with a heavier actuator to reduce the cyclic rate of the weapon. The horizontal forends were offered on both 1921 and 1921 models of the Thompson. The 1928A1 is a World War II Thompson that had several shortcut in it to increase production during the war and were built by Savage and Auto Ordnance. The first short cut was no more commercial finish on the weapon then the fins were left of the barrel, The rear sight was changed to stamped L shape and not Cutt's comp was the final mod before production switch to the M1. Also if you notice when I have done pages with a Thompson in it the title is Colt 1921A or 1921 AC. The A is for a Thompson without a Cutt's compensator on it and AC is with a Cutt's. For the show there were Colt 1921's (Same weapon from Indy IV) with 1928 internals, 1928A1's refinished to look like a 1921 (Polished Blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built by for the show.
*1903 Colt Pocket Hammer was sent to the production it is unknown if it was used or it was used and the scene was cut.
*Revolvers I know that both the Colt Detectives and Colt Official Police were shipped on the show. I will see if I can help out on the on Saturday when I see the film.
*38 Super Machine Pistol used in the movie was chambered in 9mm blank as 38 Super is not carried by the industry. The weapons was built by ISS for the film.
*BAR these were supplied by Gibbons Ltd and were modified in the Bonny & Clyde configuration by another gunsmith for Gibbons Ltd.

:Hope the answered some of your question by as all things it probably created more. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::John,

::I'm pretty sure that the 1903 Colt Pocket was the gun that Dillinger used for about the last third of the film, in place of the 1911 he had carried earlier. It's the gun he takes with him to the theater and then tries to draw before he gets killed by Purvis and the other agents. I have no idea how accurate this is in real life.

::If some of the guns (including the machine pistol) were supplied by ISS, I might be able to ask my contact at ISS if he can tell me more about that gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Depp had the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer in the Tucson hotel scene. It was brief as Depp sets it down on the table and you can see the tab for the mag catch. But would need to see it on DVD to be sure. Did see a whole was full of Colt Official Police in the Crown Point jail vault. Also the machine gun out side of Crown Point was a Colt Model 1928 Light Machine Gun. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Oops, sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. But I will e-mail ISS and ask. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hard to kill==

::John,

::I got a question to ask. Do you have ''[[Hard to kill]]'' on DVD? If you do, say so. -[[User:speedfilmltd]]

== FC2 SVD ==

By the looks of things it's a bit of both; the forend has twin holes halfway up like the FPK, but it's shaped like the SVD's and the exposed part of the gas piston is smaller like the SVD's, too; other SVD features are things like the cheek pad, the kink in the fire mode switch as opposed to the AK-like switch on the FPK, and so on. Though the weirdest feature the FC2 SVD has is a duckbill three-point flash suppressor like it's an early M16. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

*Actually, I don't think humour in articles is really a bad thing even for a wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Humor this] is a good summary of why. Indeed, I think the Payback article is how all our articles should be; describing how the weapons are shown as well as which ones they are is far more informative and fits in with this Wiki's overall principle of educating readers about firearms in movies. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== sound effects ==

Hey I was just wondering if you knew of a good website from which I could download some good firing sound effects for a movie I'm doing/editing. Preferably there would be sounds for a Thompson (with the higher ROF on the earlier models) and a .44-40 Winchester, as well as pistols. I had considered trying to get some sounds from Youtube but they didn't sound crisp enough when I added them to the film. No big deal, but I was just curious if you knew of anything. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's actually a very good idea to borrow from movies like that, I wish I had thought of it! I might be able to get some crisp Thompson sound shots from ''Dillinger'' or ''Miller's Crossing''. (I'd use ''Public Enemies'' but unfortunately that's not out on DVD yet.) I've been trying to find some sort of BAR to use in mine but I'm afraid I might have to give up on that :-/ Good luck on yours as well - what's it about, if I may ask? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 08:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Shadow==
Hey John, Thanks for the nice words. The Shadow was my first film working in the Industry so it has a special place in my heart. Those custom built Grizzlies were the loudest pistol I have ever tested. I am going to call the owner of them next week and see if I can get a photo of them for IMFDB. I am uploading a special photo tomorrow I know you will like. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 07:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:The Grizzlies in 45 Win Mag were loud with hearing protection on. The Thompsons used on the set started out as Colt 1921's when Tim Curry was firing them but when we switched to the bridge scene the flash did not appear on camera. The cyclic rate on a 1921 was to just fast enough to not show completely on film so we went to the Colt 1928 Thompson we had on hand and the Colt 1921 became a backup. Also on the bridge scene the actor that fired the Thompson tossed away a Smith & Wesson M&P Snub Nose. On the pistols for the head on shot I would have to check and see if I have the paperwork for those. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Forrest Gump ==
Do it. You're much better than me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Mask 1911 ==
This is true, the only real difference is those cocking serrations. To me it has more features common to the CGNM. Most noticeably is the sight rib, with is a part of the slide. I have yet to see this on any other colt variant with the exception of the AMT Hardballer. It is possible that it's a custom series 70, but it's also a possibility that it's an older custom GCNM.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Well I do not know for sure. I have yet to find information on the older (pre series -70). In the mean time, I think the best thing to do, would be to call it a Custom Match Grade Series '70 Colt, because everything on there lends credence to it being a Match grade firearm. I will look for older models though. What do you think? btw, is it just me or does the second picture look like a commander sized gun? The distance from muzzle to the tip of the frame seems too short for a standard. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:Hey John, I agree with that it is not a Gold Cup National Match. Those sights look like a Millet copy of the Novak. The markings on the slide appears to be a Mark IV Series 70 Government Model. So I believe it's a Colt Mark IV Series 70 Government Model with Millet sights. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:::Yeah after some reasearch this is not the NM as I had thought. That D*** sight rib threw me off, never seen another Colt with that, and the markings are a Series 70 (or later) and no series 70 NM had straight serrations. I somewhat think this was a Colt custom shop gun. Sorry, you were right man. But if you change it back please make note it has been customized to hell. Lol, for what was probably paid for the custom job, that gun;s owner probably could have just bought a NM-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:::: Oh that's nice, but don't tell me that, to me a Gold Cup is the epitome of a Colt, and I hate seeing their part's scattered. Granted mine has different grips and grip safety but I didn't do that to it. And Thanks.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== SIG P220 page==

Hey, thanks for working on the SIG P220 series page. One thing, though...the way the format works is that we arrange the movies by date, from most recent to least recent. Also, ditch the parentheses around the year. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Layout Format==
Hey John, Go ahead and try it out to see what everyone thinks. It can be changed back by changing a number. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Talk page archives==
Hey man, I just thought I'd drop you and line and suggest that you seperate the older messages on your talk page into one or more archives. This is the way I do it:
* Create a '''sub-page''' to use as an archive. For example, at [[User_talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1]], and move the text you want to archive there.
* Add the following code to the top of your main talk page, to link to the archive or archives: <nowiki> <div align=right style="float:right;font-size:100%;">'''Archived talk:''' [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1|1]], [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive2|2]] etc.</div> </nowiki>
* Adding a note at the top of the archive pointing out that it's not to be used for discussion, as well as a link back to the main talk page, is good idea as well.
Should make this a lot easier to read. :)--[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 18:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

::The size difference would be negligible, since most of it is only text, but; that's up to you.

::Also, I don't know what the established thing is here, but on every other wiki I've been to it's customary to reply to a message on your own talk page (where the conversation was started), doing it that way it makes it a lot easier to follow the conversation, because it's not spread across pages. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 07:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
*On every Wiki I've been on it's the opposite, because it means the other person recieves the 'you have new messages' notification. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

==Glocks==

I asked about this on another forum a few months back. The answer is...there's no consensus. Some of the Glock fans I talked to told me that the Glock "Generations" refer to the styling only (meaning, any Glock that has rails and finger grooves is a 3rd Gen, while no rails and checked backstraps is 2nd Gen, etc.), while others told me that it does indeed refer to specific models (meaning, a Glock 17 with rails is a 3rd Gen, but a Glock 22 with the same style frame is only 2nd Gen). From what I gather, Glock themselves haven't really taken a specific position on the matter. Also, I have Gun Digest issues from 1999-2000 (when the rail frame/finger grooves models were introduced), and the advertisements for Glocks in them don't make any references to "3rd Generation" or "2nd Generation". So, from what I can tell, the "Generation" nomenclature was invented by fans, not by the company.

Long story short...I stopped caring how people described them, which is why I haven't reverted changes by other users, but I guess the first way of doing it (associating Generations with the styling only) is much easier and makes enough sense. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
==Crimson Rivers==
Thanks for redirecting the page for me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
==Total agreement==
Yeah, I hate pocket pistols too. Due to the fact that I have what amount to bear paws, a full size M1911 would actually suit me better as a pocket gun. Also, the absence of an M4 and FAL in Rainbow Six:Vegas/ Vegas 2 pissed me off-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Modern Warfare 2 ==
I just heard that Modern Warfare 2 has been changed to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 by activision. so could you change the name back, because I can't. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 18:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Glad you like them! And yes, I'm excited to see the other guns, too. There were some pretty rare pieces used in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thinking of adding a brief forward to the Far Cry 2 article ==

As you might have noticed, it's almost finished and I'll have any remaining images tonight. I was thinking of adding a brief introduction it, just explaining firstly the game, then a subheading explaining how the inventory system works and the player actually ''gets'' weapons in the game, since our pages on movies tend to include a shot of how a character first acquires a weapon if there is one [say, Arnie talking to the gun store owner in ''Terminator'']. Seem ok? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Saw ==
I know this'll sound stupid but I'm really squemish and was wondering if any of the saw movies have screen caps. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 20:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== My crack at an incomplete template: ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Template:Incomplete

How's it look? Also, could I request you protect Far Cry 2 now? It's done barring me figuring out any way to jam the flare gun, which seems unlikely since it doesn't even have an idle animation. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Sure! I can ask. Only thing is, does your Dad intend to register the pistol under the NFA? Because I'm pretty sure a pistol with a vertical grip is a Class III AOW. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Found a capture program ==
Power DVD. It's pretty cool. Although the screens look a little dark at times. -protoAuthor

==RE: Face/Off==
Love the page - it turned out great. Caught a lot of guns that I missed when I cleaned it up some a while back (I tend to focus on the "big" guns). You had me for a minute with Eve and Jamie, though...for a second, I thought that your eyes were going bad. :P In somewhat unrelated news, do you plan on redoing the Miami Vice page? I know that's not your favorite movie, but that page is almost begging for some great screencaps...especially the SIG 552. I'd do it, but my software ain't up to snuff. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 01:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

==Pirates==
Feel free to turn it into a decent page. I'm just sick of all these pages made without an ounce of effort in them. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==Armsel Striker page==
John,Someone really messed up the Armsel Stiker page and I'm going to try and fix it. Please protect the page as I don't want to have to fix things again. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Smith & Wesson hammers==
I don't know whether or not you have the answer to this question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I was doing some reading recently and learned Colt's Positive Lock safety, separating the hammer from the firing pin to prevent accidental discharge, was developed fairly early in the twentieth century and applied to Colt revolvers, however, many Smith & Wesson revolvers continued to use the simple spiked hammer design for decades. I was currious if you knew when, if ever, S&W adopted a safer mechanism for their revolvers and if you had any details about the design.
:-Anonymous

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the pin on the hammer of Porter's model 27.]]

==The grip on the Colt 38 Super==

Hey, my contact got back to me on the Colt 38 Super machine pistol from ''[[Public Enemies]]''. I asked him how the rail for the grip was attached to the frame, and he said this:

''"[T]he rail was semi permanently added with some small screws. The screws can be removed from the rail but where they anchored into the frame---those marks will still be there."''

Hope that answers the question. Also, check these out (make sure you click on them all the way, to see how big they are):

[[Image:PBreak-00055.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00056.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00061.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I'm finally going to re-vamp ''[[Point Break]]'', either tonight or tomorrow. It'll be the first movie I've ever done using Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Mislabled team in Transformers ==

I just wanted to let you know you mislabled Cpt. Lennox(Josh Duhamel)'s team As "Ranger". They are not a "Ranger" team they are a Combat Applications Group or as most people know them, A Delta Force unit. I just wanted to let you know, thanks.

==Re:==

Hey, GM, that does indeed look better, and I would love to be able to do the same with the rest of my screencaps. What software do you use? Photoshop?

Unfortunately, one thing I'm starting to realize is that even if I do use Blu-Ray, I won't be able to take screencaps that look quite as good as the disc player is capable of generating. On my HDTV, ''[[Point Break]]'' on Blu-Ray looks very good, but on my laptop, it doesn't come out nearly as well. You may have noticed, for instance, that the resolution of these is only 1166x528 pixels even though the resolution on the disc is 1280x720. This is either due to the limits of VLC Media Player, or my laptop's graphics hardware, or maybe both. And it also may explain why the images aren't quite as sharp as they could be. So if I can edit them manually, I will gladly do so to get the most out of having Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, John, thanks for the offer. I will check out Paint Shop Pro when I have time. Right now, though, I actually haven't had much time to work on ''[[Point Break]]'', either last night or today. I'm probably not going to be doing any more work on this site because I'm celebrating my birthday tonight (which was yesterday), and I have to start working on a term paper tomorrow. But I think I can probably figure it out. I'll make sure to contact you if I have trouble achieving the same effect.

:Also, I tried playing ''[[Push]]'' in Blu Ray on my laptop, and much to my disappointment, it looks WAY worse when I use the screencap function on VLC Media Player (the screencaps come out semi-pixalated). I'm beginning to think it really is an issue with the player and that I'm going to need to find a better screencapping software. VLC just doesn't seem to handle Blu Ray very well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

== Deletion request ==

Can you deleted [[Talk:"BFG"]]? I can't move the talk page there while it still exists, even if it's blank. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== Blackout's minigun ==

I can't see the weapon you're referring to in the two screencaps, are you looking at his refueling probe? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's probably talking about the two gun positions on the sides that a Blackhawk tends to have. Also, out of curiousity; I wrote that extra section on Brawl because he's basically a giant prop, which I think fits in with the general idea of this Wiki to say what's a real weapon and what isn't. Just wondering why it's moved to the talk page? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::Looking at it, it ''does'' look like a Vulcan; the barrels look like they're tapering inwards towards the muzzle in both those shots, though the barrel clamps are a little off. Brawl's would probably be whatever Blackout's is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:Incidentally, what do you think of the BFG page now? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::I've edited the note on the BFR to clear that up a little; "BFR" is obviously a reference to the true meaning of the "BFG" acronym, even though the guns themselves aren't anything like the ''Doom'' one. I tried right-aligned images, but they either aren't lined up, or if they are add a lot of big empty spaces to the article. Also changed the tables, I like yours better. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

==MG42==
Did the Germans use MG42s in X-Men origins Wolverine? You removed MG42 section and I'm not sure if it's the same bunker in other shots. And are bootleg pics allowed? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Neon Genesis Evangelion: Glock 17==

Thanks for pointing that out; I don't understand too well because it says that Glock 17 has "a safety" but then says it doesn't: please explain more clearly (not here, on my user talk page; I don't check in very frequently...or on the Evangelion page). My bad understanding after reading through this is that "the Glock 17 doesn't have an external safety switch, it's got an automatic safety on the trigger so it only fires if you pull the trigger properly; the English dub inserting a line where a character says "safety off" while looking at his glock makes no sense, because there IS no external safety-switch" - is that correct?--[[User:V|V]] 21:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

==Could you help me delete some unnecessary pictures?==
Some arse (aka my brother) got on my account while I was away from it temporarily to do something, and he managed to upload two "unnecessary" images before I got back and chastised him. Could you manage to get them off? If you look at my uploads, it should be obvious which ones shouldn't be there. Thanks! (Dang it forgot this!) -[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 20:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Don't worry John. Matthew took care of it. It was Two pictures oof some beautiful women that T-55's brother put up in his profile. The Women were only in their underwear. Nothing pornographic.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
==Another quote you might enjoy==
:I was talking to my friend last night and I had this to say:''' I held a Glock 22 yesterday (July 20th, 2009) and it felt EXACTLY like an airsoft gun'''. I thought it was funny enough to add to my profile-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
== Yard Work? ==
What the hell?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:Good. I though you were going to help build a house for 2 bucks a hour or something. Now i will leave you to work on Watchmen and sleep. Good night.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Ban==
A user suggested that we ban Lisle202 for a week to teach him a lesson. Is that good? Lisle202 posted bad comments on my talk page. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] ( - )
*Also Lisle202 posted this in [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]: "Was das? Das sieht nicht wie ein M1911A1!" I don't know what that language is and what he is saying. This means that Lisle202's grammer is poor as he can speak German and English is his first language. He probably learned from movies like the message posted on my talk. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
:::Kenny99 needs to watch more WW2 movies ;) I barely speak German but even I know that's ''"What's that? That does not look like a M1911A1!"'' ;) regards MPM2008 (''Dieses ist NICHT eine deutschsprachige Web site. Es ist eine englische Sprachenweb site. '') ;)

*Crysis helped me figure out he's peaking German before the second comment. [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
*I'm going to use Translate to tell him to leave as this is english,not German site. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*I'm sorry that this happened. Lisle202 probably doesn't understand what's a bootleg and posted it on X-Men. Then I have to stop him, and we all got into this mess. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Meine Antwort==

Ja, ich verstehe. Ich habe nie davon gehört einer Bootleg vor. - [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]] 21:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
==The Hangover==
I wasn't finished with the page yet. I'll have to redo it in the morning-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I was doing everything other than the pics and poster (I can't do that) when you deleted it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:M'kay. There was a Mossberg 500 and a Jericho 941-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hey do you think a Wilson Combat beavertail piece would fit in my High Standard? I'm tired if wearing gloves when I shoot-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==User: Dillinger ==
Do you know this person? He/she keeps going and removing an a photo of the S&W Model 19 that I posted as a compariosn with the S&W Model 67 on ''[[Escape from New York]]''. I did that so folks could see the difference between the two models. It was a source of controversy over what Snake Plisken was using. What really irritates me is that Dillinger doesn't have a page so I can't even send him a message.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG P220-series==

I wouldn't use the term "standard" to describe models of P220-series guns, unless it's to distinguish them from a special model (i.e two-tone, nickel, railed, etc.) Also, what do you mean about the P226 in "Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay" being a "prop"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
==Thanks for the advice==
:I bruised my hand up pretty bad the first time I shot the gun and one side of the grip safety is really sharp. It's probably because of the size of my hands. I would like to just thank you again for restoring The Hangover . My grandfather is sick with pneumonia and I was at the hospital with him all day and would not have had the time to redo the page.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:What if the gun has a parkerised finish?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:Then I will just have to buy a beavertail for fear of screwing up my grip safety-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Halo article ==

As I just added to the talk page there, the Halo article doesn't actually represent any effort at all on to poster's part; it's copy-pasted from a page on Halopedia. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*There's a few I could see arguments being made for [assault rifle as FN F2000 based, battle rifle the horrible, dishevelled spawn of an XM8 and a TAR-21] and if someone ever wrote a proper article with screenshots that explained some form of "this gun is based on this gun" reasoning, I'd argue we should keep it. That one, though, is worthless plagarism. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==permission==
Can I post X-Men Origins pics from sample clips released by IMDB? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 17:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*Ah nevermind. The clips at IMDB are from TV spots anyway and can be found online. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Vandal detected ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/201.83.221.229

Click the diff. I don't really think that was an improvement. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==
I think you are right on Spider man 3. Flint did indeed use a Smith & Wesson. I am not going to do a Spider Man 2 page as it only shows a Beretta 92FS and a Mossberg 500. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 01:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series==

I hadn't looked at this page in a while, and then I looked at it today and it was incredibly well done. Excellent, excellent job, GM. It looks so much more professional now. Bravo! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Megan Fox Page ==

If an actor or actress has not used any weapons in any films or television yet, DO NOT make a page for them. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
== The Professional ==
I must have bought the stripped down version of Leon, my copy does not have the Roulette Scenes, Ringtrick, Drugdealer, Mathilda's paintball pistol, none of that.
So feel free to screencap it. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:Special deluxe edition huh, that must explain why I only paid like $8.00 for mine. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::I was surprised no-one has done Apocalypse Now yet. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, go ahead. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 15:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== MSN ==
Do you have MSN John?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

==Running Scared, my page setup==
I think I got the story with S&W 36 done right . It goes through so much crap. Also thanks for setting up my page. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== Year of the Dragon ==

Wait on that until Apocalypse Now is pretty much all done up.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== You're right ==
I never heard of the RPD before COD4. -[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Se7en and spoilers ==

Hey GM, I just wanted to say I thought you had a great idea for concealing the spoilers on the page for [[Se7en]]. I always hoped there was a way to explain how the gun was used so that people who had seen the film would understand but people who hadn't wouldn't have it ruined for them. Also great work with the page, as always, it's coming along very well and definitely needed your skills! Do you think we should start maybe going through some other films (when we have time) with major spoilers in the descriptions and changing them to fit the format for the descriptions on Se7en? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 01:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for the help ==

Just wanted to say thanks for helping with the [[RPD]]. I'd rather ask someone than put in "haven't a clue" when uploading stuff and hoping someone else will figure it out. Originally I frequented this site and eventually joined mainly for the Sci-Fi stuff, so I'm not always to good with older stuff. I checked through all the rifles but didn't think to check machine guns for this. -[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]]

==Constantine==
I was wondering if you thought that Rachel Weisz's gun is a 6906. It might be something different, but I don't have any of the models that it may be (some others have been suggested), so I am not an expert on what it may be. It looks a little BIG for a 6906. Just wondering if you wanted to give it a shot. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Another vandal ==

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/97.102.92.187 97.102.92.187] decided it would be a really great idea to [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User%3AS%26Wshooter&diff=157413&oldid=156790 vandalise S&W Shooter's user page] and make nonsense edits to a couple of other articles. Wants a good hard nuking. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 14:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thing Thing==
While I was surfing for more pages to edit, I found this page while surfing. This is actually a flash game and it doesn't belong here. Can you delete it? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Glow, not blow. ;)==

Oops! Kinda funny though.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, it looks great! Only one suggestion: Maybe one more PE image (i.e. the one with Depp and the 1911s)? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== An idea I had. ==

Rather than putting trivia entries on talk pages, which makes them a little tricky to find, why not make a seperate page? The idea I had was something like naming the article after the main one with (trivia) on the end, putting it in "category: movie trivia", then adding a template at the top or bottom of the main article; say the "would you like to know more" button from ''Starship Troopers''. This would read something like:

(Would you like to know more? image) This article has a '''trivia page''' (and that would be a link to it, working like the duplicate template).

It would advertise your hard work more clearly too, rather than just hoping people stumble across it on the discussion page. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 03:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==Walther PPK revisited==
A while back you corrected a glaring mistake I made in claiming the [[Walther PPK]] had a slide release. Once again I would like to thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding but I recently began to wonder; if the the PPK does not have a release, does its slide even lock back when empty? I realize that these two features are not necessarily mutually inclusive, however many guns from the PPK's time period did not lock when empty, so I am unsure what to think. Any information you could provide would be helpful.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== What the hell happened to Perfect Dark? ==

I know that the guns in the game were kind of fictitious, but a TON of them were based off real guns, so can we put it back? [[User:PPK1911HiPower|PPK1911HiPower]] 20:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Overzealous Deletion ==
I would just like to say that in the last few days it appears that some have become extremely quick to label an article as incomplete or recomend it for deletion only a few hours after it was created. Many people lay a basic foundation for a page and come back later to expand it. Therefore, I believe there should be more restrictions on timelimits and level of content before anyone can come along and recomend that someone else's article be eliminated.

On an unrealated subject, if adding pictures to an existing article which contains only text, if someone mentions a 1911 was used without giving any more details as to the weapon's appearance can any 1911 image be added (so long as the model isn't too obscure) until a more precise identification can be made? This same dilemma occurs with M16, MP5, and Kalashnikov models which are not given detailed identification.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::Disagree entirely. There's no excuse whatsoever for dumping trash pages on the site, and the only thing that will discourage it is if it's speedily removed; even if 'many people' do this [and I'd dispute that], we should make it clear this is not how articles should be constructed; a page with no useful information, no effort put into formatting and no screenshots is pointless, and hoping a turd will turn into a diamond if you leave it alone will soon get you a backyard full of turds. ''Anyone'' can take the time and effort to write up an article to an acceptable standard in a word processor before posting it; anyone who does not is going to have their article removed. Your actions of trying to get these pages up to a standard where they are not instantly deleted are laudable, but misguided; you shouldn't be jumping to help out people who won't put the effort in themselves, you should be working on your own projects. We don't want people coming to the site with the mentality that they can put no effort at all into a page because someone else will fix it for them later, because that essentially makes us servants running around after lazy idiots. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 00:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Actor Pages==
Sorry about that. I wasn't familiar with the new table format and I always forget to add the categories. I've fixed most of them now, so check them out and let me now if they are sufficient. Thanks for your guidance. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rules ==
Hey John. It seems you are going to write some rules. Can i help you with that?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Last Boy Scout ==

Hi Gunmaster, please check the discussion page of Last Boy Scout ;)

PS: Waiting to fix my English, lately instead of doing full pages I'm adding information or photos in existing pages. I hope to do well. For example after a year I have found the true name of the custom revolver in Hard Rain, my first page. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

==Payback once again==
Somebody has once again changed the ''[[Payback]]'' article to say that Porter's main gun is a S&W Model 29 instead of a Model 27. Being as this exact same question has see-sawed back and forth several times I was hoping you could verify it. Also I asked you some questions a few days ago that I think got buried in the all the posts. I will restate them below:

:A while back you corrected a glaring mistake I made in claiming the Walther PPK had a slide release. Once again I would like to thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding but I recently began to wonder; if the the PPK does not have a release, does its slide even lock back when empty? I realize that these two features are not necessarily mutually inclusive, however many guns from the PPK's time period did not lock when empty, so I am unsure what to think. Any information you could provide would be helpful.

:If adding pictures to an existing article which contains only text, if someone mentions a 1911 was used without giving any more details as to the weapon's appearance can any 1911 image be added (so long as the model isn't too obscure) until a more precise identification can be made? This same dilemma occurs with M16, MP5, and Kalashnikov models which are not given detailed identification.

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Response==
Thank you for answering my questions although I just wanted to make it clear that I am not the one who changed the ''[[Payback]]'' article to state Porter's weapon was a Model 29. Based on your response I couldn't determine if you were frustrated with me or just in general. I don't think the revolver is a .44 Magnum either but couldn't positively refute the change which is why I asked for your help.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== Gator Gun ==

Hey, good job identifying the so-called "Gator Gun" from ''[[Miami Vice]]''. That was an extremely tough one to identify and I'm impressed that you figured it out. Great job! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 22:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Question concerning Appaloosa 1878 8 Gauge ==

John, I'm looking for information concerning the 1878 8 gauge used in Appaloosa.
Could you please contact me at wv50bmg@gmail.com
Thank you for your time - [[User:Mrwhite1|Matt]] 19:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Obscure Colt Snake Series ==

Hey, just wondering if you have some good pics of the complete colt snake series. If so, they would be greatly appreciated.

thank you,

- [[User:sgt kickass]]

== Can you believe this guy? ==

Yournamehere thinks he can come to my page and change the format I prefer because he doesn't like it. How is my format not orderly. It's pissing me off. I mean look at my [[Black Lagoon]] Page. How is it better now than before when I had sections for which guns is which. I mean our differences aside, I didn't go to your Mail Call page and changed it. It's YOUR page. I don't believe I have the right to mess with how you like it. I just made some suggestions and Yournamehere decides to change my page the way he wants it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Revamp Mail Call ==

I'll think about it. It is a rather daunting task to put everything in the category that I am familiar with. As long as you have no problem with it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:50, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

==Lock'n Load: Pistols==
I had some questions relating to the most recent episode of ''[[Lock 'n Load With R. Lee Ermey]]''. You identified the ".38 double action Colt revolver" as a [[Colt New Service]] 1898, yet according to Ermey the weapon was adopted in 1894 and looked slightly different from the New Service. However, Ermey did mix up a couple of minor facts througout the episode and the difference in appearance could be the result of lighting, angle, or my own error, I just wanted to ask if you were certain about your identification. I was also curious if you knew exactly what .38 round this weapon fired as there were many around at the turn of the century: .38 short Colt, Long Colt, S&W, and special are the ones I can think of off the top of my head and I have no idea which was most common during this period.

I also was confused by the Gunny's statement that the Beretta 92 series of pistols was introduced in 1975, as I thought I read somewhere that they were not introduced until the early 1980's.

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

Thank you for puting pics on there it's get tiring after a while. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Did you catch the armored vehicles ep;isode last night? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:11, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

==Lock'n Load Response==
In response to the revolver in question, I did a little digging and discovered that the weapon was the [[Colt Model 1892]] as this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_M1892] testifies that the weapon was adopted in the early 1890's as the Military's first double action revolver, which Ermey mentioned the revolver he used was. It turns out that you were correct about the weapon being chambered in .38 Long Colt. I will post an image below so that if you wish you can change the Lock'n Load article in your preffered format as I have had bad luck with television articles lately.

[[Image:Colt Model 1892 Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Model 1892 - .38 Long Colt]]

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

WHAT HAPPENED? There's been two episodes and you haven't watched any of them! Why!?! [[Special:Contributions/24.63.244.10|24.63.244.10]] 13:59, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

==Help!/Help Received==
I was trying to fix the [[Uncharted: Drake's Fortune]] page by adding some pictures I have, but i don't know how to upload them! I asked S&W Shooter, and he said to ask you.

Thanks. I'm still an imfdb noob :) [[User: Mcguinness]]

Now i feel like a dick. Sorry :( [[User: Mcguinness]]
==Empire of the Wolves==
Thanks for fixing the title (sort of)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 16:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:I forgot the "The " in "Empire of the Wolves" and you put the title as "The Empire of Wolves" because I did not provide the true title-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:Why are you apologizing? It was my fault-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Noob
----

hi im new on here and i wanna kno how do i do a page correctly? bc frankly i suck at it if u could help me out id really appreciate it.

== Transformers 2 ==
for the talk page are you gonna do what you did for the first one? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 18:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

==Leon==
great work on Leon. You did an amazing job identifying those obscure weapons. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:12, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Gun ID Help needed==
Any idea what this pistol is? I think it may be a Star variant, but I have no idea. MPM2008

[[Image:VLM-SilverHandgunFinal06a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:VLM-SilverHandgunFinal04a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:VLM-SilverGunJeep02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|]]

== Planet Terror ==

Have you started doing any caps for [[Planet Terror]]? If not, I was maybe going to try to start doing some caps for it this weekend. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I have both movies. Other than the revolver the chick uses in Death Proof I can't think of any other guns in it. I have already started doing caps for Planet Terror. The grain put in it makes it a bitch. I also have the caps done for the "Machete" trailer. I need to load them up still. I get what you're saying about doing a whole Grindhouse page with all the fake trailers included. I haven't watched Death Proof in awhile but I think all the other trailers are in it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

The M16 Naveen Andrews is holding on the right side of the pic. Isn't that an M16A2 with A1 handguards? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Group Photo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

The actual screencap I have of the pic above is a lot darker. It's nowhere near as clear. Because of the grain put in the film, you can't really get good screencaps of the weapons. I may have to watch all the special features to see if there are no grain added shots for easier identifying. Thanks for the help. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

== Se7en ==
Great job on Se7en, man. You did my favorite movie justice. -protoAuthor

== Need your help ==

Sorry to be a whiny bitch here dude but AdAstra is starting to piss me off. I created a page for the new FPS game "Wolfenstein" and this douche is continually removing sections I added and moving them from them main page to the discussion page maintaining the guns mentioned (there are two) are not real. On that basis why doesn't he do the same thing for every video game and anime out there??? Is there anything I can do?

== Whoops ==

Okay apparently I made a mistake on ''[[MR 73]]''. I identify one of the actors as being [[Philippe Nahon]] and created a page for him. But I was just advised that I was wrong. The hero's partner is actually played by an actor called [[Gerald Laroche]] and the character isn't named Subra he's named Mateo. How do I go about erasing the [[Philippe Nahon]] page? --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:08, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Fictional Weapons Decision ==

The topic in the forum regarding this has not been touched for a while.
When will a decision be made?

P.S.
(keep in mind allowing fictional weapons will legitimize pages like Halo and other crap like that-just keep that in mind)

--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

== RE Fictional Weapons ==

I basically agree with your guidelines on Fictional Weapons. Being why I deleted the "particle cannon" and "tesla cannon" from wolfenstein.

-edit >looks like he put them back

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Wolfenstein#Particle_Cannon

--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== The King ==
If you look on Mail Call It says it's the 2ND largest page. what's the first? Also do you have any specific date on when you will be getting Mail Call DVD's? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 02:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

==Which do you prefer?==
Now the top one with the bipods down is NOT mine. But I can photograph my M60 in that exact position. Which do you think works best for the pages? I was just needing some input as to what helps out IMFDB the best.

[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M60 - NOT my pic, it's jacked from the web]]
[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|I just uploaded this pic but I can also load a photo that's positioned like the other one.]]

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

==Hey you==
I have done my fair share of contributions to this site besides The Killer! This is one of my most charished sites because I too love guns and films with gun and you strike me down like this? There...that's me venting! [[User:Choi117|Choi117]]

==Browning Hi-Power or M1911A1?==
Can you find out what this is? Some movies shows gun up close or closer, making hard for me to find out what it is. Someone said it's a nickled M1911A1 while another says it's a Hi-Power.
[[Image:TBB-Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|500px|.]]
[[Image:TBB-Beretta-Inox2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|.]]

Anyway, what's the difference between the Hi-Power and the M1911A1? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:*Wow, did you seriously just ask that?-protoAuthor
::Neither, it's a FN BDA --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==I'm Back==
Hey Guys, Finally finished some projects for some shows that are filming right now and starting at the end of the month. Hope to get make in to the swing of posting some more films. See you on here shortly. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 09:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

==George of the Jungle==
I am not sure if I can do George of the Jungle. I got some info and I think I'm wrong about it.

*(1.)Lyle uses two versions of the pistol: a cigarette lighter version and the real one. He fires it until the narrator says that George can't die as he is the hero.
*(2.)Winchester Model 70s are used in tranquilizer version and standard version, although they mostly use the tranquilizer one.
*(3.)The Swaheli prison guard that releases Thor and Max from prison in Africa, he has a holstered Smith & Wesson Military & Police.

I think that I need permission from you if I can do it. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 03:41, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
*Since that you deleted the old one, I thought if it's okey to do it. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 14:24, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
*I think that it's a 70 rifle with the magazine tube. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:05, 19 September 2009 (UTC).
*I'll screencap some of Wolverine. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 20:24, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== Speed Page ==

I've add some information and images in the 1911 paragraph of your "Speed" page. Check them if you want, to see if the work is accurate and appropriate. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

==(here is a note I've been posting around IMFDB)==
''I recently had the unpleasant experience of having some of the performers being insulted in some of our movie pages see what some of the IMFDB members write. there are some pretty condescending remarks regarding horrible grips, gun stance, bad gun discipline and blinking while shooting. I'm trying to promote the website and it's embarrassing to see actors getting insulted for pretty trivial reasons. What are your thoughts regarding this?

See below:''

'''I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions'''
Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Hello?==
I was just wondering whether or not you been active on the site lately. I haven't seen your name next to any contributions in a while. Then again it could be they are simply bumped off the list by new additions before I see them.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== Hey ==

Hey GM45, glad to see you're alright. If you're still around, be sure to check out MPM2008's most recent updates.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:36, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

==I'm looking for prop guns==
My name's Joe and I know you are an authority on this site and thought you might be able to help me with finding some prop revolvers or pistols. My brother is a film maker and we are looking for some 70's era revolvers ( S&W model 10 and 27) and a Colt 1911 for his film. My e-mail adress is humanzie3@aol.com, if you can help me out please shoot me an E-mail. November 2, 2009

==X-Men Origins Wolverine==
Can you find out the weapon that Chris Bradley(Bradly is the name of the guy who can control electricity played by [[Dominic Monaghan]]) carried? It's briefly seen when the mutants walk out of the village and stop a couple of yards from the African base. The stock is what I could see clearly and it looks like the stock of an anacronistic M4A1 carbine with a desert tan finish as the scene is set around 1970. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 00:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Clue revolver ==

Hey, I have some grabs from the 1985 movie ''Clue'' but I have no idea what this revolver is. Since there's no cylinder release (this picture is of the right side but the left side looks exactly the same), I'm baffled.
[[Image:Clue-rev1.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
Thanks in advance for taking a look. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 20:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Gladys ==
your Colt .45 is totally awesome dude.

==Jessie Stone==
I was hoping you could do the Jessie Stone movies soon.

==Can I get some help from you, please==

Hey GM45, I'm new to creating pages on this website and i know you are really good at screencapping things very well. I am starting to create a page for the new Medal of Honor game that is going into modern day war. If you have time, could you check out the trailer for it on youtube and see what you could do about screencapping it, if possible. This game looks amazing and I would extremely appreciate it if you could help out.-[[Special:Contributions/74.38.178.1|74.38.178.1]]ArmoredMason619[[Special:Contributions/74.38.178.1|74.38.178.1]]

==M1 Garand, and zombie survival==
I am reading through the Zombie Survival Guide(I'm kind of late to the party), and noticed that YOU as an M1 Carbine owner, are apparently set for the apocalypse! Don't ask me why, but the M1 Carbine is supposedly the best anti-zombie weapon in existence.
Me, I'm screwed. :D --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 22:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

==Picture==
You think you could tell me how to add a picture to my user page? --[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]] 11 Feb 2010 (UTC)

==What you wrote==
I saw what you wrote on Jcordell's user page and I wanted you to know that I agree 100%. This site is very professionally run and I love sitting on it all day long and contributing as much as I can. This site alone has done a great deal of teaching for me when it comes to firearms. Just wanted to say thanks. --[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

== Credentials? ==

Hey there, My name is Justin. I'm a gunsmith currently serving in the United States Army. You said before you are a gunsmith. My question is, are you self proclaimed? or did you actually go earn the title?
::If you have read his past postings, he is a minor whose father is a gunsmith. GM45 helps his dad in the shop and in the years of working on guns has developed a considerable skill set regarding some smithing, maintenance and repair. It is unlikely that anyone underage can be officially 'certified' to be a gunsmith. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:48, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Ah ok, my apologies. P.S I really like the look of that custom M1911 you named "Gladys". Out of curiosity, Who manufactured the Comp that is installed? I've looked all over, the only ones that have that style are drop in, If I could find an actual fixed comp like you say that one is, I'd be set.

== Gun diagram ==

Hey this idea came to me on the bus. If you can't do this maybe someone else send the word, but how about making a gun diagram for people who are new to the site? If you have any questions just ask me. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:23, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

== Your "Gladys" 1911 ==

I just wanted to point out that its a NFA viotlation to add a stock to a handgun. You may think that adding a 16" barrel is fine and then a stock, it is, but removing the 16" barrel then makes it a Short Barreled Rifle. Heres a source: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=471568
You can make a rifle from a handgun, but you can't make a rifle a pistol. By adding a 16" barrel and a stock, you have constructed a rifle.
:I'm fully aware of this, if it's constructed as a rifle, both the 16" barrel and the stock are put on, and if it's constructed as a pistol the 5" barrel is put on and the stock is removed. Never is it just fitted with the stock or just the barrel. They're not even used really, they're just neat little add ons for shits and giggles while plinking targets. It's kind of a dumb rule really, but thanks for the warning. Leave a user name marker or register if you're anonymous so I can reply back to YOU next time though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Category for Australian Produced/Directed Films ==

It's overdue. I don't know how to start a new category or even if I can because I'm not a moderator. But there are many Aussie movies and they should have their own category. Can you do it? Please? Also it's time for the Italians to have a category. Lots of spaghetti westerns on imfdb now. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:47, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

==Admin request==
I know that this has to be decided by alot of you, but the fourm isn't working so I have a question: Will bring it up in the fourms please? About making me an admin? I promise I would not overuse my power and would try to be useful. Please leave me an answer on my talk page. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 16:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering what PersonofInterest said about me. --[[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:30, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

==Transformers 3==
Hey John, I built the mounts for all three cars. We only have two of them posted in the [[Transformers 3]] page. The weapons on the car with the minigun in the nose are M249's under the hood. It was a cool deal working on the cars but I did get to go on location when they worked. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Transformers 3==
Okay. I was SNOOKERED. Apparently this member LIAM who is [[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]] is a fanboy who created the facebook page himself, even though the page says the "OFFICIAL" transformers 3 facebook page, thus falsely implying that it is sanctioned by the studio. NOT being a sanctioned facebook page, immediately makes it suspect in my eyes and I vote for deletion. These behind the scenes photos were not released by the studio. They were personally taken by people on set and 'leaked'. The only reason why I did not ban it immediately was because I thought it was an officially facebook sanctioned page. ''' It is not.''' We can get into serious trouble if studio lawyers all of a sudden get pissed at IMFDB and start sending us 'cease and desist' letters to 'remove' all of our screencaps. That would spell the END Of IMFDB. All because of one fanboy idiot. But I wonder what you think about the matter "No Harm done?" or "delete" ? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== Ballester-Molina ==

As I stated on the M1911 talk page, I made a separate page for the Ballester-Molina because it is not a 1911. Only the mag and barrel interchange and the lockwork is significantly different. In fact it's more of a copy of a Star Model A than a 1911. Take yours apart, and compare it to a 1911 and you'll see the differences. I have one too, a British SOE contract gun. It looks like a 1911 but it no more IS one than a Star is, and we have separate pages for those. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

==Terminator Salvation‎==
Nice work on [[Terminator Salvation‎]] especially the Dillon Minigun. I built the hand held mount for the T-600 Terminator. It was very cool idea mounting the grip in the forward position. We test fired it at the armory and the weapon likes to climb but it worked great. I still have the prototype here in my shop. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:I will help you out on the unknowns as much as I can. Weapons for this show came from at least two different armories if not three. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Score screencaps ==

Thanks for the comment. I used the latest version of VLC. I brighten and sharpen the image the "Video Effects" under the "Tools" window (Ctrl + E). --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:19, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Axeman Lost images ==

On the [[Lost]] page, the user Axeman keeps reverting the screencaps back to originals he put up. Axeman's images weren't cropped and were too dark. I put up a comparison of his images next to mine on the Lost Discussion page. I think mine would be preferable, but I want to get some other opinions. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

== Copyrights and permission ==

Hi

Just a question - are your images available under CreativeCommons Attribution Share-Alike license (that is standart for own contributions to Wikipedia and likes)? If yes - it would be great

Best regards,Mikhail--[[User:RussianTrooper|RussianTrooper]] 15:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Mail Call ==

I don't mean to riding up your arse on this subject but, are you going to do 3-8? You removed the request not to edit so I suspect not. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 23:23, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Irene Jacob ==

You need to delete the [[Irène Jacob]] page, it has no use on this site. If she hasn't used a gun, what good is it on a site that's specifically about gun use? --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 22:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== KNIVES...... ==

Hey, I got screencaps of the knives in COD 4, COD5, MW2, AND BO. If I need to ask permission to put them on discussions pages, like [[The Dark Knight]] Please tel me.

Also P.S: They are not just the melee knife used in every COD they ar5e the actual Knives used like: Bowie Knife, SOG knife. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:28, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Awesome ==

In your most recent picture of yourself, you look like a young, cigar-chomping Clint Eastwood, and that's cool. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 07:39, 13 March 2011 (MSK)

==.38 Supers==
I remember talking to Steve a while back about 1911s and blanks, he said sometimes 38 Supers are converted to 9mm for blanks use. (Like the Machine Pistol in Public Enemies.) The one used in Desperado looks like you can read Government Model below the ejection port, so it's most likely a Series 80 factory 9mm. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:39, 16 June 2011 (CDT)
:Matt sent me the image of the Machine Pistol from PE. It's a pre-Series 70, which was never available in 9mm I don't think. It wasn't until the Series 70 I have seen them. If it was real life the gun in Desperado it would be a 38 Super. But for the film it would 9mm. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:40, 16 June 2011 (CDT)
This quote is from Steve off my talk page.

''In early gangster films you see Colt 1911's that were not converted to blanks but were still live fire weapons. The 1911's and 1911a1 are a delayed blow back weapon and were more difficult to convert than the straight blow back pistol like the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless. Also the .45 ACP blanks were made from a cut down .30-06 cartridge and were mainly used in the Colt Thompson Submachine Guns but the 1911 had some issues due to the hard rifle primers. So you will see most 1911 and 1911A1's used in film prior to 1950 firing one shot since they were not converted to blanks or a mock up 1911 that has a small revolver inside an aluminum shroud to stand in for a 1911 when firing multiple rounds. About 1950 the Star Model B was brought in to the US for sale and several studios and armories purchased these since 9mm blanks worked and a conversion on a delayed blow back weapon was developed. From 1950 through the mid 80's the Star Model B, Colt 9mm and Colt .38 Supers with a 9mm barrel were used. About 1985 a new .45 blank cartridge was developed that used a large pistol primer allowing the armories to activate there 1911's to fire reliably. The Stembridge had both Colt 1911 and GI 1911A1 in there inventory also had Colt 9mm Series 70. They did try to convert 45's to 9mm but had problems due to the larger breach face in the 45 slide compared to the 9mm slide. The rentals of 9mm 1911 pistol have slowed down when the .45 came on line but they still go out on shows when a Propmaster wants to limit the amount of different blanks on set. Hope this helps some it will be hard to decipher pistol types unless you study the photos closely. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 23:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)''

''The machine pistol used on [[Public Enemies]] was originally a 38 Super converted to 9mm. It's a funny thing with those machine pistols that the original ones built for Dillinger in the 30's were 38 super. I have seen Barstow barrels in 9mm plugged and modified for blanks in Stembridge parts bin so that gives some credence to converting 38 Supers to 9mm blank. Also Stembridge had great connections at Colt and they would build custom pistol in 9mm for Stembridge. The pistols used in Cobra were 38 Super National Match made in 9mm by Colt for Stembridge.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 04:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)''

== Darkness engraved 1911's ==

Can you provide hi-def shots of the engraved 1911's from "The Darkness?" Ones that show the sides and top? Or, refer me to photos of them elsewhere?

Also, looking at Gladys, I am NOT an expert, though I think the hammer is from a 1911, not an A1. I have a couple of each and the WW-II hammer of the A1 is narrower.
- Thompsonshooter

== Got yourself a capture card? ==

Nice to have someone working with me on MGS4, maybe I'll get off my lazy ass and finish capping the videos I've already got now. :D Only issue so far is that shot of Drebin holding the grenade is much smaller than the other images on the page, I can grab that frame off my video when I get home if you like. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 17:51, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

== Vandalous newcomer in Battlefield 3 page ==

Hello.

I need to report a newcomer: [[Special:Contributions/Lukewilliams010]] in Battlefield 3 page whose actions are of vandalous nature. He posts leaked (not official) material, keeping referring to it as the other way round, and swears on everyone who mentions this to him, particularly: [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_3&diff=prev&oldid=444768] [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_3&diff=prev&oldid=450770] [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_3&diff=prev&oldid=450861] [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_3&diff=prev&oldid=451130]. And he doesn't sign his posts seemingly in attempt to hide his identity (which is of course impossible thanks to "View history" feature. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 16:40, 24 August 2011 (CDT)

==sharps long range 1874==

Did you add the picture of the sharps long range on to all of the pages because its a 50-90 sharps not a 45-70 govt :)([[User:Cbeattie|Cbeattie]] 16:11, 25 August 2011 (CDT))

== I need you or another admins help, my other account was blocked wrongfully. ==

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me with an issue I am having. Admin "Evil Tim" blocked me for no reason thinking I was some guy named "Burt", which I am not, my name is Danny. I tryed to contact him about it on my blocked account "Glock17gen4", but it wouldnt let me so I'm forced to use this account I made. I tryed to contact him and I have no received a reply, I think he is ignoring the msg or something. I was wondering if you could help and unblock my other account, thanks. [[User:SaferSephiroth|SaferSephiroth]] 16:24, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

== Infoboxes ==

Hey. So first off, a disclaimer, I am posting the following message for each of the Admins so don't think I'm spamming. Just want to get input from all of you. I have been working on a number of infoboxes for different pages ([[Template:Infobox Movie]], [[Template:Infobox TV]], [[Template:Infobox Video Game]]). I have already gotten some help from [[Bunni]] who installed an additional add-on to facilitate the templates. I would love to get some feedback from you (and other admins) regarding these. Do you like the format? Are there things you would like changed? Should additional information be added? The nice thing is that with the add-on that [[Bunni]] installed, you do not have to provide all the information for the infobox. Any variables left blank will simply not be printed.

Finally, I would like to see how you feel about my adding these to pages. I have gotten positive feedback from a number of users (including at least 3 admins) but before I add this to more than a dozen or so pages (which I have done for testing purposes) I want to really get full permission. I know that sweeping changes are a '''MAJOR''' no-no without full admin approval. Check out the thread in the forum (http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1942). I look forward to hearing your feedback! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:15, 9 May 2012 (CDT)

can you believe that bane gets blown up by Selena Kyle on the Batpod, mirander tate/taliah Al ghul gets killed in a truck crash after stabbing batman in the side. and batman carries the nuclear bomb to safety jumping out of the bat (plane) and emigrates to florence with selena kyle. :~OOOOOO i know right!!!!--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:10, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

User talk:MoviePropMaster2008 (Archive)

2012-07-21T02:10:05Z

Pistolpete:

== Timecop Automatic Machine Pistol ==

Just wondering if you had any idea what firearm the Timecop Machine Pistol was built around. I've been told that it's not a TEC 9, AP-9 or Spectre M4. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 20:47, 13 March 2012 (CDT)
[[Image:TimeCop-AutoGunS00a.jpg‎|thumb|none|501px|]]
[[Image:TIMECOP-AutoPistol01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|501px|]]
[[Image:TimeCop-Autoguns02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|501px|]]
[[File:RITB 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[File:RITB 32.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

== Finctional Weapons ==

YOU BLANKED THE PAGE! WAHOOOO! Now it will load! :-) SO quick question for ya. What are the rules governing whether a fictional weapon gets its own page? I read the info on [[IMFDB Info: Fictional Firearms]] and it makes perfect sense, but it seems more about whether the gun is mentioned on the site or not. I'm particularly curious about the [[(America's Army 3) - Grenade Series]]. These grenades are used in 1 video game and are clearly based on real world grenades. It seems to me that they don't need to have their own page if they are just used in this one game. I'd love to hear your thoughts. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 20:42, 18 March 2012 (CDT)

== SVD ==

I fixed the SVD page a while back; someone had changed the caption on your image of the Tiger Carbine you own to claim it was an SVD-M a couple of years back. What I'm curious about is the one we have labelled as SVD-S at present; is that one a Tiger Carbine too (as it was orginally captioned)? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:21, 3 April 2012 (CDT)
:Don't know. That one was a google search image and I'm not an expert on SVD rifles. Sure, I own them, but I have not researched them. IMFDB requires a magnitude higher of scholastic research than my job actually requires. hahahahahahah. I just know the rudimentary background on most guns, and then take them to the movie set, etc. etc. etc. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 12:39, 3 April 2012 (CDT)

== I need you or another admins help, my other account was blocked wrongfully. ==

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me with an issue I am having. Admin "Evil Tim" blocked me for no reason thinking I was some guy named "Burt", which I am not, my name is Danny. I tryed to contact him about it on my blocked account "Glock17gen4", but it wouldnt let me so I'm forced to use this account I made. I tryed to contact him and I have no received a reply, I think he is ignoring the msg or something. I was wondering if you could help and unblock my other account, thanks. [[User:SaferSephiroth|SaferSephiroth]] 16:24, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

== People stealing your images ==

Hey, I'm not much of a poster here, but i found this site through google images, [http://www.majkasvihoruzja.com/ Obvious grand theft imagery]
Just wasn't sure if you were aware of this instance, i've seen photos uploaded in small bits here and there, but this takes it to a new level. [[User:Pepper|Pepper]] 17:25, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

== About admin Evil Tim ==

Hello. I posted on [[Talk:1968 Tunnel Rats]] page but [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] reverted my post just a few minutes later. This is not the first time he had conflict with users, his actions forced another old-time user [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] to quit. He likes declaring people trolls without a firm reason. Can something be done about it? :\ --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 09:16, 14 April 2012 (CDT)
:Unhelpful political commentary which has nothing to do with improving a page does not belong. Unless you can explain why saying America "trembles before China" has anything to do with improving the page "1968 Tunnel Rats" or serves any purpose but annoying people, I'll say it's trolling and doesn't belong. In general treating talk pages as a general discussion forum does not belong since we have an actual forum for that.

:Mr. Wolf quit because he couldn't accept that a formatting idea only he subscribed to made pages look random and messy. I was sad to see he couldn't get past that weird quirk, since he was a good contributor, and I was sad to see him go. Don't you ''dare'' try to invoke him to justify what you're doing. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:26, 14 April 2012 (CDT)

== Exclusives ==

I contacted E. James Small a while back about the blaster props used in [[Battlefield Earth]] and he very kindly gave me a couple of extra shots of partially assembled guns. I don't think these are up anywhere else. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:16, 14 April 2012 (CDT)

== Taking Pictures ==

Hey man, I wanted to see if you could give me any tips about how you take your gun images. I wanted to upload a few of my own but I don't want them to look like cheap crap with the background and stuff. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 17:31, 21 April 2012 (CDT)
:Any reason you haven't responded to my last 2 post here?? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:15, 29 April 2012 (CDT)

==Boss Warning==
There are at least 5 other models in episode 2; I simply haven't had time yet to finish making it. I've never made a page that I didn't know for certain would qualify, and this is no exception. I've been here a while and you've seen how much care I put into pages that I make, so please message me on my talk page next time you feel the need to warn me about something (so as not to tempt other users to interfere with my work unnecessarily). Also, I'm pretty sure that seeing as the MGC guns are generally regarded as one of the "high quality" models alluded to in #4 and it only says that the one real firearm rule applies if the rest are considered "''obvious'' toy or airsoft gun(s)" (which the MGCs are not) that the page would still qualify even if there were no other guns in the show.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 10:56, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
:But I just explained why it could qualify according to rule #4. My problem is that by leaving a warning like that (when I've shown on numerous occasions to put a great amount of care into a page and I placed the "under construction" banner at the top) you posted that warning on that talk page which could inadvertently encourage other users to make unnecessary changes (which usually consists of adding in listing for guns with no screencaps to back them up) or possibly even causing another admin to see the warning, assume the page doesn't qualify, and delete it while cleaning house. I'm not "butthurt", I'm just irritated that your first reaction to an incomplete and obviously under-construction page was to post a large warning in the talk page instead of sending it to me. It'd be one thing if I was a new user with no history here, but I've made dozens of pages and hold my work to a fairly high standard. Most if it tends to be fairly obscure stuff, so I know that the odds of another user doing it properly are pretty low.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:37, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== Reviews ==

Ah right, I see what you mean. I've been starting to write reviews of a lot of films recently and I've put them on various forums and thought that it would be nice to share them here, but I do see what you mean about a lot of the films on this site not having reviews and how it would look. Thanks for getting back to me though :) --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 17:20, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

== Common Mistakes ==

What is the rule here? I want to make sure I get it right. Is there a golden number after which they SHOULD be categorized? I just keep coming across pages with 20-30 guns and no categories. ([[24 - Season 8]] for example). I would appreciate your feedback, I want to get this right... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 17:30, 7 May 2012 (CDT)
:Sounds good to me! Thanks. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:12, 8 May 2012 (CDT)

== Infoboxes ==

Hey. So first off, a disclaimer, I am posting the following message for each of the Admins so don't think I'm spamming. Just want to get input from all of you. I have been working on a number of infoboxes for different pages ([[Template:Infobox Movie]], [[Template:Infobox TV]], [[Template:Infobox Video Game]]). I have already gotten some help from [[Bunni]] who installed an additional add-on to facilitate the templates. I would love to get some feedback from you (and other admins) regarding these. Do you like the format? Are there things you would like changed? Should additional information be added? The nice thing is that with the add-on that [[Bunni]] installed, you do not have to provide all the information for the infobox. Any variables left blank will simply not be printed.

Finally, I would like to see how you feel about my adding these to pages. I have gotten positive feedback from a number of users (including at least 3 admins) but before I add this to more than a dozen or so pages (which I have done for testing purposes) I want to really get full permission. I know that sweeping changes are a '''MAJOR''' no-no without full admin approval. Check out the thread in the forum (http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1942). I look forward to hearing your feedback! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:17, 9 May 2012 (CDT)

== Battle of Long Tan ==

Crackshot wants to make a page for [[The Battle of Long Tan]], which appears to be a documentary with re-enactments. Crackshot has told me that this is similar to [[Kokoda (2010)]], which appears to have been allowed. I'm not really sure now, because there are obviously a lot of History Channel-type documentaries that do re-enactments as well and I don't believe these are eligible. If you think this new page should stay, please let me know. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:05, 15 May 2012 (CDT)

== 77 Sunset Strip ==
Well of course I bow to your experience since you actually photographed it and handeled it. I was going off of the photo - that weird front sight and the short grip. From the photo it looks like it was chopped by a gunsmith somewhere along the line and possibly the barrel was changed, but when I look at the group photo of the three actors it does look like Efram is holding a Colt Detective Special - judging by the scale. I've never heard of a Colt DS in 32 caliber, but then I suppose a good smith wouldn't have too much trouble converting a DS to a .32 caliber configuration. I have no issue with you making the change. You're there and I'm not. I pride myself on not being an idiot. Well not to often.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:58, 18 May 2012 (CDT)

== TV Episodes ==

Since when did we put episodes in the "Air Date" column?? I thought the standard was to put them in the Notes column?? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:21, 19 May 2012 (CDT)
:I COULD NOT agree more.... You are right, I was making an assumption. Hope I didn't come across sounding like an ass... Honestly didn't mean to. I'd like to help! Question though... sis the air DATE really necessary as opposed to just the year? I think when you start adding day and month it gets to be a bit too much information... Plus there are some guns that appear in just a single episode, and then some that are used throughout a series (the characters main weapon). Another thing that would be REALLY nice to clear up while we are at it, for the date, do you list the date/year the weapon occurred, or the date(s) the show ran for? For example, if Jack Bauer used a certain gun for season 1-3 of [[24]] do we list 2001-2004 or 2001-2010? I've seen it both ways... I would LOVE to work together with you on this! How About the following (I included a couple sample entries, they are made up and don't pertain to any certain gun). :

:{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Air Date'''
|-
|''[[24]]''||[[Kiefer Sutherland]]||Jack Bauer||With folding stock ||[[24 - Season 1|Seasons 1]] - [[24 - Season 3|Season 3]]||2001-2004
|-
|''[[CSI: NY]]''||[[Gary Sinise]]||Det. Mac Taylor|| ||"Out of the Sky" (S07E05)||2010
|-
|}

:I propose making a template page for this that we can direct people to. It will show the code that is decided upon and list important things to make sure to do/not do.
:Notes to make sure people know:
:* Title is in ''italics''
:* A column with no entry is left BLANK! Don't put a period or a bunch of question marks or write unknown. Just leave it blank.
:* The answer to the date of occurrence vs dates of show running question.
:* We'll think of more...
:--[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:59, 19 May 2012 (CDT)

::Any thoughts??? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:34, 4 June 2012 (CDT)

== Blank Gun Pages ==

Hey. I saw you took care of the "Arminius Model 10". I wanted to draw your attention to a few other gun pages that should prolly go since they don't have any occurrences... Most of them dont even have specs! Just an image and the "This gun appears in...". I'm also 99% percent sure that none of them are your images. I know that there are a few guns on the site that haven't appeared in anything but come from your "arsenal" so we keep them up. As you know, I defer to your judgement but these pages seem poorly made, reflect poorly on the site and don't meet even the most basic criteria for inclusion. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 12:28, 28 May 2012 (CDT)

*[[Smith & Wesson Baby Russian]]
*[[Smith & Wesson Model 320 Revolving Rifle]]
*[[Taurus PT915]]
*[[Smith & Wesson Model 619]]
*[[Smith & Wesson Model 657]]
*[[Smith & Wesson Baby Russian]]
*[[Smith & Wesson 908S]]
*[[Colt New Line 38 Caliber Revolver]]

== Jericho 941 ==

Hey MoviePropMaster - I had a couple of questions about the model specifics of the '''Jericho 941''' that you uploaded an image of. Would it be cool to talk via email? Thanks. [[User:JaySinkie|@JaySinkie]] 07:57, 30 May 2012 (CDT)

== PNGs ==

I believe that the site now rejects the uploads of any PNG's. The PNG's already uploaded on the site are still there, but I don't think you can upload any new PNG's. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:21, 4 June 2012 (CDT)

== Your Images ==

Quesiton for you. I am attempting to do some edits on Wikipedia as well. There are a number of gun pages that are missing images of the gun being discussed. On your user page you say that you "grant IMFDB.org copyright usage of my own images as long as they are unaltered or unmodified." Would you be okay with me using your images in wikipedia articles? I would be more than happy to attribute them to you and would list your userpage as the source. I absolutely DO NOT want to use your images without permission though so let me know. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:25, 7 June 2012 (CDT)
:?? Is there a reason you haven't responded to my last couple of posts on your discussion page? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:45, 9 June 2012 (CDT)
::Again, could you please respond? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 20:13, 25 June 2012 (CDT)

== Actor Templates ==

The tables were always there, but Zackmann08 gets all the credit for creating the Pagename templates. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:14, 9 June 2012 (CDT)

== Jennings ==

Thanks for replacing the image on [[Jennings J-22]]! As always your image is soooo much better. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:35, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

== LAW Pic ==

No, I found it online and put it up because it's a match for the LAW in [[Street_Fighter#M72_LAW|Street Fighter]] (having the same weird front sight). It was labelled as an early production LAW where I picked it up, I grabbed it because the one shown clearly isn't the more usual type (with a big bulge on the top for the pop-up sights). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:39, 12 June 2012 (CDT)

== My Way (2011) ==

Just so you know, [[My Way (2011)]] was nuked because [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] delete the page 2 days ago. A few hours later, the guy who had created the page, created a new account and recreated the page with the exact same information that had been there before Ben deleted it. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 21:45, 23 June 2012 (CDT)
:At least a week. The issue is that the guy who created the page created it, then moved on and created another page that wasn't up to standard (had plagiarized stuff from IMDB for one). Then he moved on to a third page and a fourth. Ben as well as myself and 2 other non-admins tried to talk to the guy but he refuses to respond to our posts on his discussion page (and I have checked to see if he responded on his own page as newbies tend to do). But despite being warned specifically not to create more pages before finishing the ones he created, he keeps doing so... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 21:54, 23 June 2012 (CDT)
::You bet. Yea I know what you mean. I have a background in Computer Programming so I have a bit of a leg up but this stuff can still be confusing. While I'm here, I'd love to get your feedback on some of the templates I've been creating. Are there any that you would like to see made? Anything you think could be useful? I am no where near to as knowledgeable about guns as you and many of the other members are. But, as I mentioned, I have a background in programming which is why I've tried to use some of my "skills" to help improve the site. As I said, if there is anything you would like to see me try to make, please throw your ideas my way. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:51, 23 June 2012 (CDT)

== Documentaries ==

So after consulting the [[Rules, Standards and Principles]], it seems that the ban on documentaries is not actually stated anywhere in there... Would you mind adding it? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:34, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

== The House on Creepy Lane ==

So I just deleted [[The House on Creepy Lane]] AGAIN. I saw you deleted it the last 2 times... I am new to being an admin and don't want to overstep but seems to me like this guy isn't getting the message. I left a message on his discussion page saying that if he creates the page again, he will be banned from the site (that would be his FOURTH strike...). Is that appropriate? Like I said, I'm new as an admin and do not want to abuse my "powers". --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:55, 27 June 2012 (CDT)

== Max Manus ==

When working to actor Ken Duken I came across a deleted movie Max Manus. I do not understand. Nevertheless, it is best Norwegian film about the war. Why is missing?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 14:44, 27 June 2012 (CDT)
::Because it was deleted back in 2009 and the page had no screencaps, no poster and was almost a bare page. How good a movie WAS has no bearing on whether or not it's IMFDB page qualifies. THINK before you ask questions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Images ==

Thanks for the tip. I was checking to make sure that they weren't used anywhere on here but didn't think about their use on the forum. I will make sure that I don't delete any obviously personal gun pictures. Like I said, thanks for the tip! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 08:07, 4 July 2012 (CDT)

== The walking dead the game ==

what is the policy on adding the walking dead video game to imfdb?

== Obscure non-American firearm ==

Hi. I'm sorry, but Google translator to translate it fails, unfortunately. I do not understand the meaning of the sentence. It would write it differently? What is "obscure non-American firearm"? What is here problem?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 16:52, 14 July 2012 (CDT)
Oh, I see! It missing there country of origin. I apologize for this error.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 02:45, 15 July 2012 (CDT)

== Pawn Stars ==

Good thinking. Are you a fan of Pawn Stars?? Its actually a pretty good show. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:02, 18 July 2012 (CDT)

== Page for the film "The Objective" ==

Hey there, I wanted to crate a page for the film "The Objective", but noticed that there was already a page for it which you deleted back in 2010. My question is: May I please recreate the page? --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 14:57, 19 July 2012 (CDT)

can you believe that bane gets blown up by Selena Kyle on the Batpod, mirander tate/taliah Al ghul gets killed in a truck crash after stabbing batman in the side. and batman carries the nuclear bomb to safety jumping out of the bat (plane) and emigrates to florence with selena kyle. :~OOOOOO i know right!!!!--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:10, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

User talk:Evil Tim

2012-07-21T02:09:56Z

Pistolpete:

''Earlier discussions: [[User Talk:Evil Tim/Archive 1]]''

== What are the rules ==

Sorry to drag you into this; you're simply an admin whose talk page isn't locked. Simple question: what on earth happened here:

http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mutant_Chronicles&action=history

My notes on the talk page for the were a genuine and good-faith attempt to contribute and they were deleted without comment. I presume I've offended some obscure house rule of yours, but regardless, it's a pretty arrogant and unilateral thing to do on the part of MoviePropMaster2008, and hardly the way to encourage people to get involved.

== Gun Brand Pages ==

Yo. So now that at least 2 admins have contributed to the new "Gun Brand Pages" is it safe to say the idea is sticking? I want to keep working on these but I dont want to spend all this time just to have them deleted. I'm still new to this site so whats the procedure for getting this approved by the powers that be? Happy holidays, [[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 08:06, 24 December 2011 (CST)
:Thanks for your help with the [[Heckler & Koch]] page. Any feedback? You like the format? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 14:46, 25 December 2011 (CST)

== Kampfpistole ==

Thanks for your remarks, they make perfect sense. I did not check my e-mail in the last few minutes so I was totally unaware that somebody else (you) was working on the same page. This way we can keep eachother busy, right? My apologies for driving you crazy!

Reason that I wanted to rename 'Walther Kampfpistole' to a more generic 'Kampfpistole' is that today I read an about the history of this gun. Originally a flare pistol ("Heeresmodell 1934"), from 1943 onwards it was produced by both Walther and Erma as ‘Kamppistole’ (no further numeric nomination) having a big 'Z' on the side indicating that it had 'Zuege' (German for grooves) so that small explosive charges could be fired more accurately. The article did not indicate an original designing manufacturer so I figured removing ‘Walther’ would be the right thing to do. If you say that Walther is indeed the company where it all started, then I can only agree to keep matters as they are.

As for the LP-42, I see what you mean. Problem is that ‘Kampfpistole’ is actually a very generic name simply meaning ‘battle pistol’ (just like ‘assault rifle’ may apply to AK-47 and M16 alike). In this case, both guns are correctly referred to as ‘Kampfpistole’ but they are of completely different design. As such, I would suggest to remove the ‘Kampfpistole Z’ image from the LP-42 page, leave matters as they are and not merge, wouldn’t you agree?

By the way, what do you mean by “please don't edit war, it doesn't help”? I am not aware I have been changing anything else today than the Kampfpistole. Take care, let me know what you think and Merry Christmas, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 10:36, 24 December 2011 (CST)

:Good to see your remarks, be my guest to make changes; I will stay away from the subject for a few days hahaha Not sure of you are aware, but 'Leuchtpistole' is yet another generic nomination. It's German for 'Flare Pistol' so I think it would not be correct to put all 'Leuchtpistols' on one page, not in the least because the designs are very different. Take care, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 10:58, 24 December 2011 (CST)

==Spammer==
Since you are one of the most active admins on this site, here is a spammer I consider banning: [[User:Grishacka1929|Grishacka1929]]. Highlighted in blue is his [[Lifetime asks, contends actual...|contribution]]. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 18:52, 24 December 2011 (CST)

==This guys is crazy==
He's a raving asshat. He's another Liam, save for the fact he does know his 1911s. But he's also being a jerk. Okay, so M1911 is the MILITARY designation, the Colt Govt. Model is the company's name for the pistols they sold to the public. M1911 is used by a lot of people as a generic description for that type of pistol. When I say Commercial M1911, I mean a commercial version of the M1911. There is nothing actually erroneous about that description. But think about it. People KNOW the difference between the M1911 and the M1911A1, they know that there were improvements made between the wars. Just calling them the Govt Model doesn't help people to ultimately get to know the difference. Boy, I sure attract a lot of guys who hate on me. This guy needs anger management. Now if we need to update the descriptions, we can. On his conduct, you were right. His rage makes him an unacceptable element on IMFDB. Doesn't matter how much he knows. If he becomes that abusive that quickly, then he is not the personality type that moves IMFDB forward. Thanks for the note. I think I (we as in you're a mod too) need to come up with a code of conduct that warns people to be polite. There are sites out there that are so deathly afraid of offending someone's sensibilities or their freedom of speech, that they are often held hostage by people who promote bad behavior. We welcome corrections when they are done in the right way. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:20, 25 December 2011 (CST)

==Se7en==
Sorry, but this page is really kind of ruined when the actor's name is mentioned. It's not really vital on this page to know who the actor was that used the weapon is on this page as much as what character used it. I understand that you disagree with a lot of edits that a particular user makes, but I'll be on the case to let the user know if the edits go overboard. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:30, 25 December 2011 (CST)

==Kampfpistole Z==
[[Talk:LP-42_Flare_Pistol|Any objections?]] Sounds reasonable. (I hadn't really been following the Kampfpistole saga, I sort of just stumbled into it.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:08, 27 December 2011 (CST)

== Salt featured article ==

Can you change the [[Salt]] entry on the featured article template from a SIG SG553 to a P556 SWAT with a SG550 lower please, as it is locked to me. I recently changed it on the Salt page, but featured article just came up and noticed it was now wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 05:04, 29 December 2011 (CST)

== Dead links ==

Hey man, I've been working on converting a number of pages from the list format over to a wikitable. I've noticed that there are some cases where a movie is listed, but there is no page for that movie. For example, if you look at the [[M1911A1]], about halfway down the Films section [[Nowhere to Run]] (1993) is listed, but there is no page for it. Should it be removed when I convert it to a table?

(As a side note, I'm not actually editing the M1911 page, that was just the quickest example I could find.) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:52, 4 January 2012 (CST)

:Gotcha. That's super helpful! Thanks.--[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:00, 4 January 2012 (CST)

== Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2009 ==

Yeah, did some reseach, this game is available in Europe, bt it is under a different name (Same game, different name), it is called "Cabela's Dangerous Adventures". And it is available for the PS2, PS3, Wii, and Xbox 360 (The page is for the Xbox/PS3 version). Don't know if you have an Xbox or a PS3, so that is up to you, and it is dirt cheap by now. - [[User:1morey]] January 15, 2012 12:40 PM (EST)

== Copyrights ==

Hey man. I was just updating a page and I noted that the "copyrights" link at the bottom that shows up any time you edit a page is now red. When I clicked on it I noticed that you deleted the page. Just wanted to make sure you were aware that every time you edit a page or a discussion post, a link to that page shows up on the bottom. Any issue with me putting up a redirect on the old Copyright page that takes you to the "General disclaimer" page? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:18, 16 January 2012 (CST)

==Copyright page==
There's still time... (Seriously though, is there any legal reason why TOS's and disclaimers have to be a solid block of text? During my newspaper days, we avoided solid blocks of text whenever possible and cringed whenever we saw them in other papers. It's just telling readers "Don't read this.") --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 12:36, 16 January 2012 (CST)

== Manufacturer Template ==

I created a template for the manufacturer pages ([[Manufacturer Template]]). I am going to add a link to it from the <nowiki>[[Category:Manufacturer]]</nowiki> page. I would love any input from you and other admins on it. I want to make it as straight forward as possible. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:36, 19 January 2012 (CST)

==GLOCK==
GLOCK (in all caps) is the official name of the company as stated on their website. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:31, 21 January 2012 (CST)

== Re: NSV ==

Hi. Thanks for the info. It is strange though, why would KBP have an image of the Kord on their site, which is made by Degtyarev? --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 11:27, 22 January 2012 (CST)
:I am totally confused now... >< Please delete the pic then, I reupload it with a correct name if and when I will make a page for the Degtyarev compnay. Thanks. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 12:56, 22 January 2012 (CST)

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==Idontthinksotim==
I don't this is actually directed to you. It's a catchphrase from the American series ''Home Improvement''. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 04:41, 21 February 2012 (CST)

== Top Shot - Season 3 ==

Hey man. I saw your edit on [[Top Shot - Season 3]]. While I get what your saying that revolvers technically are pistols... That distinction isn't made elsewhere on the site. For example, the [[NCIS]] and [[Burn Notice]] pages, some of the most popular on the site, list '''Pistols''' and '''Revolvers'''. It seems like an unnecessary distinction to make... I respect my elders and know you are an admin, I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest or anything but it just seems unnecessary to me, particularly since that isn't the way it is done elsewhere on the site. Thoughts? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:44, 23 February 2012 (CST)
:IMHO, it seems like '''Pistols''' and '''Revolvers''' fall under the overall heading of '''Handguns'''... "When distinguished as a subset of handguns, a pistol is a handgun with a chamber that is integral with the barrel, as opposed to a revolver, wherein the chamber is separate from the barrel as a revolving cylinder." Webster gives a similar definition. I take back what I said previously. Based on a little more research it seems that a "pistol" always refers to a Handgun where the chamber is integrated in the barrel. For example, a [[Derringer]] would be a pistol despite not being semi-auto. Any handgun with a rotating cylinder would be a revolver and they would all fall under the overall category of '''Handguns'''. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:48, 23 February 2012 (CST)
::Thats actually really interesting! Never knew you guys defined it differently over there. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:24, 24 February 2012 (CST)

== SOCOM 4 ==

So I'm in the middle of leaving a message for Commandoninja137 (the guy who created the SOCOM 4 page, if were calling 'that' a page...) warning him that the page was about to be deleted because of his lack of effort. I had JUST added the ''nuke'' tag to the page right before i posted the message on his discussion page. When i posted it with the <nowiki>[[SOCOM 4]]</nowiki> tag, the link came up in red. I'm thinking "huh, I musta mispelled it"... but no. You beat me to the punch and got rid of the page literally seconds after I nuked it. GOOD MANNNN!!! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:29, 25 February 2012 (CST)
:I'm kind of surprised the page lasted as long as it did. I wanted to just delete the stuff copied from Wikipedia, but then the page would be completely empty and would look even worse. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 25 February 2012 (CST)
::Yes, I know. I grew suspicious because it was a little too... nice. I cleaned up and consolidated the dead links a few months back, and I don't think there's a single SOCOM game here that could be considered complete. I know they're console only, but still...

== DVD Screenshots ==

I mostly have DVD and the Blue-Ray I have is a Blue-Ray/DVD combo pack so I'm set. What I'm wondering though is can you get screencaps from things like Hulu and Netflix? --[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 09:29, 26 February 2012 (CST)

== Re: G36C ==

It indeed looks similar, although the nomenclature appears to be different. Anyways, I will add it and if someone can find a better match, he will change it. Thanks. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 12:52, 27 February 2012 (CST)

== Masterkey in Homefront ==

Hi. Please change the Masterkey's gun image on the [[Homefront]] page to this one, as this has a slightly better quality, and it is visible that the rifle is actually a KAC SR-16, not a Colt M4.
[[Image:KAC Masterkey.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Masterkey shotgun mounted on a KAC SR-16 rifle - 12 Gauge]]
Thank you. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 07:55, 25 March 2012 (CDT)

== Grenades ==

DAMITTTTTT. Sorry about that mate. I will be more careful. Frankly I didn't know there was such thing as an Airsoft grenade... Thanks for alerting me to the mistake. :-)

While I'm writing to ya, I might as well mention the [[AK Gallery]]. I totally get what you are saying about guns like the Dragunov and will 100% defer to your judgment. I felt like it was worth putting them on the page since they look similar but if you don't think they belong, I totally understand. It's all about what will be most useful in identifying the guns. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:23, 27 March 2012 (CDT)

== Doom Nuke tag ==
I put the nuke tag due to this subsection of the rules.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Rules,_Standards_and_Principles#Anime:_Rules_.26_Restrictions
Also the page was previously deleted on the same grounds.
--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:42, 30 March 2012 (CDT)

== The Dark Knight ==
A) Seriously? You've never seen ''[[The Dark Knight]]''? B) Yes, that is a bigger spoiler, I'd tell you more, but I don't want to spoil anything for you, C) Come on, seriously? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 02:11, 5 April 2012 (CDT)

::Which is the reason why I removed the reference in the page. That particular user who wrote those captions constantly gives away important plot points for no good reason. The user has been warned. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:19, 5 April 2012 (CDT)

== This is Glock17gen4, why was I blocked? ==

I have done nothing wrong, and you blocked me and reverted my edits. Here's the reason you left: "(Abusing multiple accounts: Hey there Burt, you're still banned, go away.)" My name isn't Burt, it's Danny. I tryed to use the Glock17gen4 account to contact you about this but it wouldnt allow me to leave a message on your talk page, I would like the block reverted please, as I dont know who this "Burt" is and have done nothing wrong. I really think you have me confused with someone else...PS: do you have email we can discuss this on? [[User:SaferSephiroth|SaferSephiroth]] 20:40, 6 April 2012 (CDT)

== What's all this then? ==

http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bunni&redirect=no#I_need_you_or_another_admins_help.2C_my_other_account_was_blocked_wrongfully. Is this the usual suspect? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:19, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

== I am not this Burt Reynolds Mustache or Person of Interest guy, please quit blocking me! ==

Dont you check for IPs before you make such decisions? I am not this character you think I am. Please unblock me! The only reason I changed the gun on the PD page is I was going off of what the GE 007 page said. If that wasn't right then I am sorry, I did not know. I just know all the classic guns in PD are based off Goldeneye 007's guns. I was trying to keep the page accurate, is there anything wrong with that? [[User:RugerLord|RugerLord]] 14:25, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

ET, do whatever you think is best. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 14:40, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

== FlaK ==

Very sorry. I've heard of what you're talking about, but thought it was abbreviated differently.

== Read the rest on that bunni guys page ==

Hey listen, I'm sorry about messing up your page, but seriously dude. You didnt listen to me when I was nice, and I'm sorry about Rockwolf's page too. I have no issue with anyone on this site except you because you keep wrongfully banning me after I helped out. I contacted other admins and the sites owner about this. And you still wouldnt give me a fair chance, so yes, I'm human, I went off on you because I had had enough. I like guns and Goldeneye, I really wanna help with this site, but if I keep being harassed, then how can I do that? PS: I also didnt take to kindly to you and your friend refering to Irish people as "Liams". I'm Irish, and that offends me. [[User:ColdSteel|ColdSteel]] 20:48, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

== Ok done ==

It wont allow me to change on the Goldeneye 007 main page but I put the upload on the Walther PP series page and the Goldeneye talk page, it's a genuine .32 ACP PPK the same as Bond uses, and I think you'll like the pic quality alot. [[User:ColdSteel|ColdSteel]] 21:21, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

== Blocked User ==
The poster was obnoxious and irritating. I just felt like if he comes back he doesn't need to get the change to be an jackass again. Meant to block him earlier, but then I forgot. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 13:59, 11 April 2012 (CDT)

== Ellipses ==

You're right, there's no reason to correct them, but is there a reason I shouldn't? Seriously, if there's a reason, I'll stop. --[[User:Cheywoodward2|Cheywoodward2]] 20:32, 12 April 2012 (CDT)
:Alright, I will stop be such so pedantic about my ellipses. I may forget once or twice. If I end up doing so you my have my apologies. Also, your writing style makes you seem like a very pleasant and knowledgeable person.

== Re: Trolling ==

The whole argument of the section didn't have anything to do with improving the page in question. Yet I'm being the target of moderation. How more unfair can it get? --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 09:25, 14 April 2012 (CDT)

:That would be a fair argument if the 'not-forum' rule was enforced and the only thing one could find on Talk Pages is weapons and accessories identification and nothing else. But that's just not true. And a simple commentary among many others won't suddenly cause IMFDB to collapse. --Masterius 09:37, 14 April 2012 (CDT)

::I did not want to go into the whole political debate on who's right and who's wrong. Are you sure there were no points that could have gotten a rise out of me? --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 09:45, 14 April 2012 (CDT)

OK, OK, Mr. Wolf was right. You won. So long, and thanks for all the fish. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 09:49, 14 April 2012 (CDT)

== Sorting Out User names ==

Thanks for taking care of that. When I don't see any further contributions right after a new user account is made, I tend to be more suspicious. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 16:29, 16 April 2012 (CDT)

== Bot ==

Have you notified the other admins? Are they aware of the situation? It's hard to tell who's online sometimes, but I'll do what I can. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:55, 17 April 2012 (CDT)
:So it's an American bot. Anyway, I'll do what I can. I'll probably be monitoring for another hour, then I have to step out. I should be back on later tonight though. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 17:06, 17 April 2012 (CDT)

== Glock 18C ==

Hey man, so I just noticed that some guy has once again tried to replace the Glock 18C image with his own. You had previously reverted his upload... Rather then reverting it myself, I thought I would mention it to you... [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Glock18c_01-1-.jpg Picture in Question]. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 14:11, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

== FNP ==

Hey man. Some guy just made a bunch of weird edits to the [[FNP]] page. He changed all the specifications for the FNP-45 to values that are not correct (based on both wikipedia and the FN website). He also added a ransom show that has no page on the site. Do you mind rolling back his edits so I don't have to correct each mistake? Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 17:37, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

== Chronological Order ==
I'd have to dig it up in the forums but I was told by a Mod a couple years back that if the page has a relatively low number of firearms (20 or less) to use chronological order. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 13:36, 20 April 2012 (CDT)

== Forum ==

I made your forum account a moderator. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 15:44, 21 April 2012 (CDT)

== Devil May Cry. ==

Aite. No worries. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:04, 6 May 2012 (CDT)

== Nukes... ==

I'm sorry. You're right. :-( Let me explain where I'm coming from (just so you don't think I'm trolling the site looking for pages to nuke). I am in the process of trying to convert every gun page from the list format to table format. As I go through, whenever I find an entry that is missing a date I go to that entries page. If that page has an "incomplete" tag, is far from complete and hasn't had any work done in a longgg time, I have been nuking them. As was mentioned in the forum, these are (for the most part), drive-by creations. Pages made by a user who was here for a few weeks and then never returned.

But, at the end of the day, you are correct. I will tone it down on the nuke tags and reserve them for REALLY poor pages. Sorry. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:52, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

== re: M57 ==

Yeah, and looks like he added a bunch of other Zastava guns that were not featured in anything yet. [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 16:02, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

== Infoboxes ==

Hey. So first off, a disclaimer, I am posting the following message for each of the Admins so don't think I'm spamming. Just want to get input from all of you. I have been working on a number of infoboxes for different pages ([[Template:Infobox Movie]], [[Template:Infobox TV]], [[Template:Infobox Video Game]]). I have already gotten some help from [[Bunni]] who installed an additional add-on to facilitate the templates. I would love to get some feedback from you (and other admins) regarding these. Do you like the format? Are there things you would like changed? Should additional information be added? The nice thing is that with the add-on that [[Bunni]] installed, you do not have to provide all the information for the infobox. Any variables left blank will simply not be printed.

Finally, I would like to see how you feel about my adding these to pages. I have gotten positive feedback from a number of users (including at least 3 admins) but before I add this to more than a dozen or so pages (which I have done for testing purposes) I want to really get full permission. I know that sweeping changes are a '''MAJOR''' no-no without full admin approval. Check out the thread in the forum (http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1942). I look forward to hearing your feedback! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:15, 9 May 2012 (CDT)

== "The following weapons..." ==

Oops.... I haven't exactly been consistent on that one. Thanks for letting me know. Sorry about that. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:57, 11 May 2012 (CDT)
:That makes sense. I will make sure to do that from now on. Sorry (again...) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 12:12, 15 May 2012 (CDT)

== RE5 ==

No, it was with an AI Sheva. I cannot play co-op because the online part of G4WL games does not work in Slovakia. BTW, there was an Ithaca and a Skorpion in her inventory, but no ammo for them, so probably that is why she went with the Beretta. (I also put grenades and mines to her inventory, so that she cannot pick up ammo.) - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 12:27, 16 May 2012 (CDT)

== Minor Note ==

I totally get what your saying and agree. We did discuss this a while back. I have stopped removing the entry with the exception of pages that were deleted for not meeting IMFDB standards. And even then I only remove them if the media in question doesn't meet standards, not just because the page wasn't complete. In other words if the page was deleted because no one had worked on it I leave the entry but if the page was deleted because it was a Documentary or a youtube video then I do delete the entry. Thanks for staying on this! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 14:07, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

== Image Error ==

I would try to upload an image to overwrite it eg. uploading something with the same file name. May be a size issue. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 15:48, 31 May 2012 (CDT)

== GoldenEye ==

Hey. Thanks for taking care of [[GoldenEye 007]] for me! What do you think of the new [[:Category:See_Also|templates]]? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:46, 5 June 2012 (CDT)

== Your LAW Pic ==

No offense, but is that a picture YOU took? Also the end cap has broken off and that particular one is a trainer (not the sub caliber trainer but a classroom trainer) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:37, 5 June 2012 (CDT)

==aha==
Yes, that is the first model LAW, the M72. It doesn't have the metal framed front site but has a solid piece of clear plastic. When the Army demilled them, they just snapped off the plastic front plate, which makes it hard to fix because the clear plastic base (with the spring) is still in the sight base. Apparently that was done because the first pattern sights were 'night sights' and were "radioactive". That pic is still a trainer though. I will try to post a pic of the actual first pattern LAW. I have one, but like most folks, my front sight is broken. They really did some weird stuff to that LAW for the film though (pyro insert tube not withstanding). :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:56, 12 June 2012 (CDT)

== Thank ya! ==

Many thanks bud! I promise to use my powers for good. If you, or any of the other admins, ever feel I'm over stepping, please let me know. I may be an admin now, but I still defer to the more senior admins. As for the bot, it is a giant work in progress. If I actually manage to figure out how to make it work, we will get creative with the name. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 14:39, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

== Unrelated to firearms ==

Are you the same Evil Tim who [http://lparchive.org/Castlevania-64/ Let's Played ''Castlevania 64'']? [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 16:42, 14 July 2012 (CDT)

can you believe that bane gets blown up by Selena Kyle on the Batpod, mirander tate/taliah Al ghul gets killed in a truck crash after stabbing batman in the side. and batman carries the nuclear bomb to safety jumping out of the bat (plane) and emigrates to florence with selena kyle. :~OOOOOO i know right!!!!--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:09, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

User talk:Gunmaster45

2012-07-21T02:09:40Z

Pistolpete:

User talk:Excalibur01

2012-07-21T02:09:23Z

Pistolpete:

== Infoboxes ==

Hey. So first off, a disclaimer, I am posting the following message for each of the Admins so don't think I'm spamming. Just want to get input from all of you. I have been working on a number of infoboxes for different pages ([[Template:Infobox Movie]], [[Template:Infobox TV]], [[Template:Infobox Video Game]]). I have already gotten some help from [[Bunni]] who installed an additional add-on to facilitate the templates. I would love to get some feedback from you (and other admins) regarding these. Do you like the format? Are there things you would like changed? Should additional information be added? The nice thing is that with the add-on that [[Bunni]] installed, you do not have to provide all the information for the infobox. Any variables left blank will simply not be printed.

Finally, I would like to see how you feel about my adding these to pages. I have gotten positive feedback from a number of users (including at least 3 admins) but before I add this to more than a dozen or so pages (which I have done for testing purposes) I want to really get full permission. I know that sweeping changes are a '''MAJOR''' no-no without full admin approval. Check out the thread in the forum (http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1942). I look forward to hearing your feedback! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:15, 9 May 2012 (CDT)

can you believe that bane gets blown up by Selena Kyle on the Batpod, mirander tate/taliah Al ghul gets killed in a truck crash after stabbing batman in the side. and batman carries the nuclear bomb to safety jumping out of the bat (plane) and emigrates to florence with selena kyle. :~OOOOOO i know right!!!!--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:09, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

User talk:Ben41

2012-07-21T02:09:15Z

Pistolpete:

'''''Earlier discussions: [[User Talk:Ben41/Archive 1]]'''''

== Series Templates ==

The short answer is that yes, you need to create a new one. The longer answer is that (in theory) you could use parsing functions to making templates that are all based off of one template so that the new templates would all look the same, but this restricts the format and would take hours and hours of coding. Each template is different (compare the [[Template:1911|1911 Template]] to the [[Template:Tom Clancy Series|Tom Clancy]] template). Now what we could and I think should do, is change the sub-categories to something like "Media Seires" and "Gun Series" (separating 1911 from Tom Clancy). At the end of the day tho, eventually there are going to be a lot of templates but if you concern is that there will be a lot to sift through, there is always an easier way to add the template. When you create a new template, you know what its called and you add it to the pages as you create it. If you are creating a new page and need to add it to the template, and the template to the page, just go to another page in the series. In other words, if you are adding "Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4" (no such thing... yet...), just go to the Modern Warfare 2 page and copy and paste the code from the bottom.

I've been spending a lot of time working on these templates and haven't really gotten any feedback from admins. It's also frustrating because there are a lot of things that I would like to do but can't since I'm not an admin. For example, I keep having to ask one of you guys to add a new template to the locked page... I'm not as much of a gun enthusiast as most of the people here, but I am a computer engineer with a lot of coding experience so I'm just trying to do my best to help out. I will kick around the idea of a generic template and try some different things but no promises... It will literally require hours of coding.

In the mean time, I would love to hear some feedback on the templates that I have already added. Are there other templates that you think could be useful? Throw ideas at me and I'll let you know what I think is doable. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:40, 17 June 2012 (CDT)

:Also, I BEG you... please read my request about redirects [http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=2004 In the forum]... I cannot tell you how frustrating this is... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:44, 17 June 2012 (CDT)
::Any thoughts? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:31, 18 June 2012 (CDT)
I did a little tidying up of the templates. Added some more subcategories. This should help to keep things from getting TOO cluttered. I'd really like to hear your thoughts. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:56, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
:You are correct, and that is the beauty of using templates. Make the change in ONE place, it automatically changes everywhere else. :-) I SWEAR when I made the Pink Panther template, Pink Panther 3 was listed on IMDB and its not now... Maybe I saw it on Wikipedia?? Either way, I will fix it and I think you are right. Let's wait until a trailer has been released before adding it to the templates. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 19:50, 21 June 2012 (CDT)

== "The Killing" screenshots ==

You suggested to upload whole frame screenshots instead of capturing only weapons- well, due to heavy spoilers I may try to do it, but will have to warn other users who do not enjoy spoilers, is it better?

If I'll somehow get the HD quality images I'll change current ones to such, although I think the handgun is seen clear enough to identify it :)

== GRAW2 ==

Why can not I finish the PC version? --[[User:Mateogala|MTOOO]] 05:47, 20 June 2012 (CDT)

== Template:Wrong Turn Series ==

Can you do me a favor and rollback [[User talk:Van tu|Van Tu's]] edits to [[Template:Wrong Turn Series]]? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:32, 22 June 2012 (CDT)
:So the guy removed the freaking template from his "pages" and screwed up the format... GRRRRR. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:38, 22 June 2012 (CDT)
::I went ahead and restored the original version, but take a look at what he did... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 12:38, 22 June 2012 (CDT)
I agree. I'm less concerned with the template and more concerned with the fact that he removed it but yea... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:29, 22 June 2012 (CDT)

== Van tu ==

So our good buddy [[User talk:Van tu|Van Tu]] has created himself a second account and recreated the [[My Way (2011)]] page that you deleted. I know I'm not an admin and I don't want to over step but i think this guy needs to get the boot. He's violating rule after rule and has yet to respond to anyone's requests. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:28, 23 June 2012 (CDT)
:I think he's created account number 3 now. I have a feeling "Leavemealone" is the same guy. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:18, 24 June 2012 (CDT)
::Yes, it's he. The same ''modus operandi''. :) And this is number four: 18:52, 24 June 2012 Leavemealone (Talk | contribs) created new account User:Come with me (Talk | contribs). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:40, 24 June 2012 (CDT)

== Well... Damn ==

Oh well I guess I'll have to find another series that is acceptable on the site. Oh and since the page was nuked can you please delete the photos I took for it? Thanks [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 00:43, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

== Request for deletion ==

Please delete several files that I uploaded in past but now they are not used: File:Blastfighter-Revolver-4.jpg, File:Blastfighter-Revolver-6.jpg, File:Blastfighter-SPAS12-1.jpg, File:Blastfighter-SPAS12-11.jpg, File:Blastfighter-SPAS12-4.jpg, File:Blastfighter-SPAS12-9.jpg, File:Commando_Leopard-Rifle-2.jpg, File:The_Adventures_of_Sherlock_Holmes_and_Dr._Watson_-_Watson_revolver_-_placeholder.jpg. They all are in Delete category. Thanks in advance! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 01:11, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

== thanks ==

Many thanks! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:14, 27 June 2012 (CDT)
:Also, sorry for deleting [[24: The Game]]. It truly seemed like it was not up to par. Looks like it's getting some work done on it tho. :-) Seems like sometimes when a page gets deleted people go "oh wait, I want to do that!" --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:54, 27 June 2012 (CDT)

== Advice ==

So since I am new to being an admin, I wanted to get your opinion on something. I recently deleted the page for [[Next of Kin]] because it was woefully lacking. Hours later, the one guy who had contributed to it in the first place, recreated the page with the exact same info... How do you guys normally handle this? If the user had a lot of contributions I would feel very different, but he doesn't... This is his only page. Thoughts? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:18, 27 June 2012 (CDT)

== next of kin ==

i got next of kin on DVD. i can snapshot some of the guns. i need the names of the guns that was used in Next of Kin. --[[User:Boo2795|Boo2795]] 12:16, 29 June 2012 (CDT)

== A Rumor of War ==

Hey man. Whats the story with your [[A Rumor of War]] page?? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:07, 3 July 2012 (CDT)
:For the record, that's exactly what I did... Had the page be some guy with nothing on his user page and a half dozen random contributions, I would have deleted it. Since its yours, I aint touching it. I know I nuked it 2 months ago but that was before I was an admin. As an admin I WILL NOT delete another admin's page without getting their okay first. Mainly I just wanted to make sure you hadn't forgotten about it. I now know you haven't so I will leave it be. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 20:38, 3 July 2012 (CDT)

== Upcoming tag ==

Doesn't the "Upcoming" tag refer to any movie that out in theaters and not available on home video? According to the rules, we can't post screencaps of anything other than what's in trailers or teasers until the US video release date, so it explains to users why the caps aren't there. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 01:10, 15 July 2012 (CDT)
:As I said above, I thought it remained in affect until home video release. Theoretically, every page is considered incomplete until it get screencaps from the official home video release, so the upcoming tag provides an excuse as to why those caps aren't there. And since we can't use caps from illegal sources like screeners and bootlegs, for the purposes of completing a page, the home video release date is pretty much the only one that counts. The tag also is a disclaimer, covering our asses and reminding everyone that "Any screenshots used are from official Trailers and sources" and not bootlegs. (BTW, we should probably make the T in Trailer lowercase.) I would think for a featured page like ''The Avengers'', this is especially important. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 01:29, 15 July 2012 (CDT)
::True, but we can always change the name. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 01:38, 15 July 2012 (CDT)

==Marked for Death==

[[Keith David]] used a Benelli M3 Super 90 during the confrontation with the Jamaicans leading to the car chase and shootout at the mall. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:21, 16 July 2012 (CDT)

== Screenshot Tempalte ==

Good call on the <nowiki>{{SS}}</nowiki> template. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:46, 16 July 2012 (CDT)

can you believe that bane gets blown up by Selena Kyle on the Batpod, mirander tate/taliah Al ghul gets killed in a truck crash after stabbing batman in the side. and batman carries the nuclear bomb to safety jumping out of the bat (plane) and emigrates to florence with selena kyle. :~OOOOOO i know right!!!!--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:09, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

User talk:Alienqueen11

2012-07-21T02:09:09Z

Pistolpete:

Hi , there is a kid name Brady94 or something that keeps changing the images from H&K UMP, I asked him twice to stop doing it and he doesn´t understand , so if you could protect this image or ask him yourself because the images that he uploads are lousy ones compare to the pictures of moviepropmaster thanks.Gerry

Absolutely 18th C. weapons are fine - I even set up an anime section for fantasy weapons. I should be the one thanking you for helping me build the site! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

You're quite welcome for the WotW help. As for the M16A2 and the Mk 19, the convoy scene should help. I believe one of the humvees (with the gunner wearing sunglasses instead of goggles) has the Mk 19 and the truck full of soldiers (one of which shouts to Robbie that he's gonna get run over) should be bristling with M16A2's. The hilltop battle scene would be another place to check for M16A2's if the convoy yields no results. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

:I'm afraid the gun you posted as an M16A2 from WotW is another M4A1 carbine. Note the short foregrip. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

::There you go, that's more like it. :) [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

== DSA-58OSW ==

I'm pretty sure that gun you posted from RE:Apocalypse is a DSA-58OSW, a FAL clone made by DS Arms, not a SCAR CQC.

== Scarface ==

Wow, nice job on [[Scarface]] - I just found it while browsing around the site! :) [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 04:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Beretta pistol SNAFU ==

Thank you for helping to clear up the mess reguarding the [[Beretta M92F]] and [[Beretta 93R]] pages. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Just a reminder ==

Just wanted to make sure you knew about the new category [[User:Bunni|Bunni]] implemented for screenshots, and that the tag for them should be posted in the description of each applicable pic. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Aircraft-mounted Lewis Gun images ==

Do you think you could find a non-screenshot image of the aircraft-mounted Lewis Gun like in Image:PDVD 081.jpg? That's the same machine gun mounted on the biplanes in the climax of ''[[King Kong (2005)|King Kong]]'', and an image of that weapon would greatly add to the article. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

: Disreguard, just saw that there was such an image on the ''[[The Mummy]]'' page. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

== Congrats! ==

Your Scarface page was featured on gorillamask.net and uniquedaily.com today - over 3,000 hits in the last few hours, I'll update you with the total number of viewers it receives. As a side note you should keep an eye on it for the next few days to erase any vandalism. Best, Chris. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

== Blocking Users ==

WikiSysop is me, bunni - I just don't make edits with the admin account so I don't screw anything up to bad. I perma blocked one guy for vandalism - post their ip's to my talk page and I'll give them the boot. The scarface page hit ebaumsworld so we're getting a ton of new traffic, 14,000 hits and counting in the last 12 hours - good thing I upgraded the server. :)

== Adding Admins ==

I'm all for that, you and orca are the only ones I'd trust with admin status though. Let me know if you're up for it and I'll figure out how to upgrade your accounts. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Digg ==

I submitted the Saving Private Ryan page to Digg - can you digg it? [http://digg.com/movies/A_visual_guide_to_the_guns_of_Saving_Private_Ryan http://digg.com/movies/A_visual_guide_to_the_guns_of_Saving_Private_Ryan] [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 18:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Page Redirection ==

If you could provide me with an email address or other secure means of communication I would be happy to tell you. Sorry for the covertness, just want to keep that knowledge from falling into the hands of vandals who might use it for malicious purposes. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

== Funny... ==

I was watching Goldmember on Fox last night, checked the site to see if anyone had done a page on it, was sad that no one had, then I woke up this morning and there it was. lol [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 16:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Sin City ==

Go ahead and edit the screenshots and page - I'm sure a couple of those are Colt Pythons... and I'm guessing Bruce Willis's is a large S&W... but I am at a total loss on revolvers in general. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Call for screenshots ==

I was wondering if you or Bunni could help add some screenshots to some of the film & game articles I've made? I'm only limited to images I've been able to scour off the internet, which sadly isn't much. Any help you two could provide would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Image:AA3_Handgun.jpg ==

Just looked at the pic of Mini Me with the unknown handgun, and it looks like some sort of [[Glock]] or a clone thereof. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:23, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

== American History X ==

Thanks for Editing the American History X page. My English sentences are not that good, so that is at least one thing you could help me with... ;-)
And about the credits: I just made the screenshots... You came up with all the names, so I think it should be your name on that page.

Sorry I didn't reply earlier on your message on my 'Talk': It was 7.35 a.m. here, so I was quite tired :-P
 [[User:Vinniebar|Vinniebar]] 17:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==

It's [http://imdb.com/name/nm0648249/ Timothy Olyphant]... :-P
 [[User:Vinniebar|Vinniebar]] 19:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

== You're now a Sysop, Congrats! ==

Thanks for all your efforts so far, I finally got the chance to research how to set user privileges and made both you and Orca Sysops. You can now ban users, delete and undelete pages, and revert pages to previous versions. Thanks much! Best, Chris [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 23:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Good News. ==

Awesome, go for it man. :) [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== BB2 G36K ==

It's only visible for a split second but one of the DEA agents Syd works with who is involved in the chase can be seen holding one in the Ford Bronco. I belive it's during the part where the Haitians are dumping cars off the hijacked semi truck. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Screenshot Help? ==

I was wondering, do you know how to get screenshots with InterVideo WinDVD? I'd like to try to get some screenshots of my own, but don't know how with this program. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Is this it? ==

Negative, that's a G36C, note the carry handle design. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Screenshot Help ==

I'm afraid I don't see anything like that on my program. I'll ask Bunni if he can help. By the way, is it me, or does ''[[Bad Boys II]]'' have more guns than any other film on this site thus far? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Question ==

Just trying to keep the articles in a type of uniform order with the pics of the guns above the screenshots showing them. Hope that's not a problem? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Thanks ==

No problem at all. Your ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]]'' article actually helped me ID one of the guns in ''[[Die Another Day]]'', namely the [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] revolver Bond uses in Cuba. Took one look at it and was immediately reminded of the one from your article. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 13:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re nice call ==

Yea the PA8 is a unique gun, it almost is a Franchi Spas 12 minus a few addons. I'm still working on the unknown guns fron V for Vendetta, Dawn of the Dead, and Mr.& Mrs Smith. Just let me know if there are others.--[[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]] 17:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== two movie requests ==

You should add Miami Vice (new movie) to the list. Miami Vice has a lot of different guns. And a page needs to be made for Swordfish. Mabye three movies, Smokin Aces has a lot of gun play as well.--[[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]] 04:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== ''Underworld'' MP5 ID? ==

Are you sure that's the A2 version of the MP5 being used in ''[[Underworld]]''? That one screenshot shows what looks like an MP5A3-style telescoping stock vs. the MP5A2's fixed stock. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== Awesome work on ''Lethal Weapon 4'' ==

Great work on the ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]'' screenshots so far. Feel free to fill in any weapons and details I missed, as I haven't actually seen the film in a while and only put in what I could recall from memory. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== ''Lethal Weapon 4'' mystery pistol ==

Can you ID the silver pistol in this screenshot and who's using it? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:LW4 Beretta2.jpg]]

== M41A Pulse Rifle Info ==

Heya, I noticed you're starting a page on ''[[Aliens]]'', and thought you might find this interesting.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M41A_pulse_rifle M41A Pulse Rifle @ Wikipedia]

Seems like there were components of three different real-world guns used to make the Space Marines' M41A Pulse Rifles. Also I believe the [[Heckler & Koch VP70]] makes an appearance in there somewhere. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Aliens ==

That flamethrower looks like it might have some [[M16 rifle series|M16]] in it, most notably the carry handle/rear sight assembly. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

: Also looks like it's got an [[M16 rifle series#M16/203 rifle and underslung launcher|M203]] handguard on it. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Miami Vice Id ==

I try and identify any gun you want. Miami vice has a lot of different guns in it.

== Miami Vice ==

Yes that will be fine.--[[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]] 21:43, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

== ''Miami Vice'' Sniper Rifle ==

I think this might be the sniper rifle from ''[[Miami Vice (2006)]]'', let me know what you think. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:Blaser93.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blaser 93 sniper rifle 7.62x51mm NATO]]

== Re: Identification ==

Afraid not man, sorry. Can't make out any of the markings on it, and the casing doesn't match anything I'm familiar with. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: ''King Kong'' ==

Thanks a lot man, I appreciate it. I'm presently watching ''[[Clear and Present Danger]]'' and working on that page as I type this. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== Thank you==

I just saw the work you did on ''[[King Kong (2005)]]'', and wanted to thank you for the excellent job you did with the screenshots. If you could help me with the ''[[Patriot Games]]'' article I'm currently working on I'd greatly appreciate it. It's presently airing on Spike TV as part of a [[Harrison Ford]] marathon they're running tonight. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Thanks ==

I'm afraid I've got no idea what kind of gun that is, other than some sort of field artillery gun. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

== Instant messenger? ==

Just out of curiousity, do you have any kind of instant messaging program so we could chat in real-time? I'm on AIM and YIM. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Instant Messenger ==

My AIM ID is bassmas314. Be sure to identify yourself when you IM me so I don't mistake you for a spammer. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

== Link for you ==

Heya, here's a link to some info about the [[Calico M960]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_M960 Calico M960 @ Wikipedia]

== Re: Spam ==

Affirmative. Spam identified and terminated as per standard operating procedures. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:52, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

== my user page ==

lol - those were some silly edits on my user page, thanks for taking care of them. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re:M16A3 ==

How do you know it is a A3 the only difference between the A3 and A2 is the trigger group. From a distance both models look the same.--[[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]] 16:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

== Need ID for SoaP pistols ==

Just saw some semi-auto pistols at the start of ''[[Snakes on a Plane]]'' being used by Eddie Kim's henchmen but I couldn't ID them. They were seen with and without silencers. Any help would be appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Pistol ID Needed ==

Hey, do you think you could ID this pistol? I was browsing still images from ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' on IMDB and came upon this pic:

[[Image:TWINEPistol.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The "Cigar Lady" moments before using a [[Smith & Wesson 5906]] to blow up a hot air balloon and kill herself in ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'']]

Any help would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Response from an anoymous user: I believe that the handgun in that picture is a Smith and Wesson 5906.

==Special Request==
You wrote: ''I also want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload a picture of a Remington 870 with Ghost Ring Sights and a High Capacity Tube like the one in the screenshot below for the Dawn of the Dead (2004) page, I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.''

Sure. I have a dozen Remington 870s set up for films, but none in that variation, but I will ask around to the other Weapons wranglers and see who has one like the one you're looking for. I will be taking shots of my 870s in the standard police and police folding stock versions. I will also try to get a pic of the 870 that Linda Hamilton actually used in T2. But a lot of the guns are used in a film and then retrofitted to look different for another movie. Thanks for the compliment. I sure would like people to see that IMFDB has REAL pics of REAL movie guns and not just copies of pics from Gun sites or (worse!) Airsoft pics. You know it DOES cost me money to get pics of some of those particular guns from famous movies .... I have to take the armorer who worked on the specific movie OUT to a nice lunch! hahahaha.

I am also pretty shocked that you, Orca, MT and others are so damned young! Y'all are just kids! But you have an IMPRESSIVE array of knowledge and wisdom and maturity for your years! I can tell you now, that you guys act more mature than tons of guys who are old enough to be your dads!
.....[[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Looks like another spammer==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Template:GFDL
Don't know what this guy is trying to do, but at any rate, a complete page in another language is verboten.

== ''Armageddon'' screenshots ==

Thanks a lot for providing screenshots for ''[[Armageddon]]''! I only have the movie on VHS so wasn't able to get any images myself. You did a wonderful job, and really helped the article a lot. Keep up the awesome work, man! :) [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]==
Thanks, you're screen shots are good too. Keep up the good work.
:I read your guns held, do you have any pictures of it so someone could I.D. it here. I got some major gunsmith bibles with just about every gun ever made and even if I can't I.D. it by sight, I'd have that book. Or is it a case of you held it a long time ago and couldn't remember it if you tried? Let me know, I'd love to help.

[[Re: Screenshot Help]]
[[By the way, is it me, or does Bad Boys II have more guns than any other film on this site thus far? Orca1 9904 01:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)]]
:Now my [[Last Action Hero]] and [[Hollow Point]] pages have it beat. Cool!

::Distict B13 has tied with Hollow Point. Both have 37. But if I had sorted all the guns on the wedding table section, I'd have had him beat. I guess the most gun heavy movies are the ones no one hears of or hasn't in a long time. Last Action Hero is a great movie, 34 guns, but no one really even knows about it.

:::Let's see how my ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page turns out once I get back to work on it. I realize it doesn't have either of those pages beat yet, but every time I watch that movie, I see another type of gun in it that I didn't notice before. I'm willing to bet that it could have even ''[[District B13]]'' beat once I finish the page.

==Re: Thanks==
My computer was recently so dark I couldn't have seen it myself, but I turned the brightness up recently so I could see what the hell was going on. I could tell the 2nd shotgun was a Wincehster 12 because my dad just got one to fix in the shop ''and'' I had just been looking at a book that showed the bottom of the shotgun, which looked indentical to the shot in the movie. Thanks for complementing my [[Toy Soldiers]] page. I actually bought it off Ebay just to screencap it. I had seen it on TV and wanted to put it on the site because I thought it was cool. I'm actually just about to upload [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page, so you can check that out soon. Keep up the good work. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Hey==

Oh, don't worry, I don't really want to "compete" or anything for most screenshots in a movie. But it must be said that ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' really does have a ridiculous number of different types of firearms, so once I get a new computer that's actually capable of playing DVDs without slowing down, I can get back to work on that. That, and the fact that making arrangements to move to Texas are proving rather difficult, are the reasons I keep delaying my work on the page.

You are right...I really should get the ''[[Boyz n the Hood]]'' and ''[[Belly]]'' pages re-done. I still have the screenshots I took before the Great Crash, and there aren't that many guns in either movie, so it's something I could get done.

:Wait, so you're one of the mods? And Orca, too? Whew! You know, for a while, I've thought this site's been going without any mods, because I see Bunni and Wykiscop (errr, I know I butchered that) so rarely. That's so odd that I just thought you guys were regular users like myself. Goes to show how behind I am...

:Yeah, I'm still trying to fix up the Beretta page. Is there a way to do breaks after each section for the different variants? I know there is in Wikipedia, but I couldn't get the same thing to work here. The Beretta page still needs some work, so does the SIG P220 series page, and the M1911 page is basically a disaster right now! Also, I did see your ''[[Shooter]]'' page - nice work! Sadly, I sold my Taurus PT92, which was a very old one (wood grips and no third position decocker) many years ago to pay for my AK, and now my S&W 4506 is my only pistol. I like Berettas and Tauruses, but I only prefer the Taurus slightly because I think the safety is in a better position (you can reach it with your thumb more easily than the Beretta).

==Re:MGS4 M1911A1==
Thanks, I wish I had one too. I hope to buy one soon but I'm unemployed and money is a big factor. I've got about $200 now, I'm half way there. I worship the 1911 from the 3rd game and hope to one day make one based on what is said in the game. The Uber 1911. I just wanted the code unless I get one anytime in the future.

==Re:Nice Job==
I can do those little pages day after day, it's the big movies that take a weekend to do. I'll take care of the other two Jurassic Parks sometime this week, I have the Rambos, Unforgiven, the other Sergio Leone westerns and a lot more on my list. -GM

==870==
[[Image:DotD Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
Per your request: That looks like a Remington 870 but the rear ghost ring sights look like Mossberg 590 style sights. Weird. I can get a Remington 870 with Ghost ring sights, but the sights I've seen don't look like Ving Rhames' gun. Have you found any shot on the web of the exact configuration that he has? Or did their armorer just put Mossberg Sights on a remington? MPM2008

==Check out the vandal==
Some moron is now vandalizing the [[Commando]] Page. His last comment when i said 'not to delete page contents and replace them with gibberish' was ''"It's fun. Good luck"''. But he changes his IP address every time.

==Beretta==

Hi,

This is kinda minor, but just so you know...the Beretta 92FS is not spelled "M92FS", "M92F", or "92 FS" (with a space between the '92' and 'FS'). It's exactly as I've spelled it: Beretta 92FS. Sorry to be nitpicky, but you know, that's what we're here for.

:It looks awesome now! I actually have the trilogy on DVD and have thought about screencapping this movie (and the first) for a while, but like a lot of things, I never seem to get around to it. But...that's OK, cause you've done a fine job yourself!

:One thing I should point out is that you might want to take a screencap of the end when Simon's men are all grabbing MP5Ks out of the crates before they try to flee the cops. I remember all of the MP5Ks in that particular scene being Daisy BB replicas of MP5Ks, and I figured that might be worth pointing out.

::Appreciated!

== Admin rights ==

I've re-added you as a Sysop - are you still having trouble banning people? [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 06:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

:Post the error you're receiving and I can work back from that, do you know if Orca is having any issues? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Admin Rights ==

I was unable to terminate the specified spammer, recieved the following error message:

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[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

== What user? ==

I haven't been able to find a cause of the error. What user are you trying to ban? It may be the same issue we're having with non-english characters in the articles... also, create a new account and I will give that account admin privileges and we can see if it's something tied to the transfer of the accounts to the new server. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tyrann now admin ==

Try out the other account and let me know the results on my bunni account [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 19:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re: Bad Boys II P226==

Yeah, I suppose we should, just because MPM2008 went to the trouble of taking the picture and it would be a shame not to use it. Especially if it's a more accurate representation of the gun that Lawrence uses in the film.

==Beretta M92FS==
Don't know if this is good enough. Let me know. I was trying to find one with a Pietro Beretta marking on the slide, but a lot of mine have Beretta USA marked on the slide. If it's not good enough, then I'll keep on looking for one that's not all beat up with a Pietro Beretta marked slide. Alot of our Berettas are heavily customized.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]

::Hey, Alienqueen, now that we have our own genuine 92F picture courtesy of MoviePropMaster, do you want to start replacing the Beretta image that we've been using since the site was started? Last I checked, we have over 100 pages linking to the old Beretta image, so it might take a while, but I think it's worth our while to phase out older images taken from other sites, and replace them with MPM's images.

::BTW, to answer your question: There is pretty much zero difference between American-made 92Fs and Italian-made guns besides the markings. There are some internal differences between the original 92F and the 92FS, however, but I don't think it's terribly relevant for the purposes of this site.

==RE: Dawn of the Dead==
Feel free to remove them or add some of the info to the descriptions. -GM

==Re:==

Probably for the better...unfortunately, I'm not so good with shotguns (I have trouble telling Mossberg 500s apart from 590s, for instance). -MT2008

:Only thing is, I'm a bit worried, because isn't it going to fuck up all the links on movie/TV/game pages that go to the Beretta page? It's kind of a bad situation when you've got a page that's got so many other pages linked to it. Is there any way to find a list of pages that link directly to the Beretta 92F page?

:Also, I agree with you that people should not put links to gun pages in the titles. It looks really bad, and personally, I like pages to look clean and neat. -MT2008

:Oh, yeah, and I didn't realize you could delete stuff? Can I give you some other pages to delete? As well as images?

:::Hmmm, maybe I'll do it later. But right now, here are some pages that need to go, because the users who made them didn't check carefully enough to make sure that other pages existed, or because they just weren't relevant to IMFDB:

* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Mossberg_500_Bullpup_shotgun
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_silence_of_the_lambs
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Diamonds_are_Forever
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Licence_to_Kill
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Terrorists
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Top_Ten_Combat_Rifles
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Boondock_Saints
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Heckler_%26_Koch_HK41

:::Also, the talk page for the SIG SG 551 page you deleted is still there, so you might wanna ditch that, too. -MT2008

::::Awesome! Will do. But it looks you've got a good start so far. -MT2008

:::::Thanks! Like I said, I will get around to it, though not tonight. -MT2008

::If I were you, I'd go ahead and just add a lock on MPM2008's images to be safe. But then again, considering this user has openly defied you and doesn't seem to be contributing much of use to IMFDB, you could also just ban him for being a nuisance. -MT2008

:::Good call. It sucks when we have to do stuff like that, but I think it's a necessary evil at the moment. -MT2008

Is it everyone you can't block? Or only people with weird characters in their names? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hah! Try it out - I think I fixed it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==WTF?==
I leave for a few days and all Hell breaks loose! hahaha ;) What was going on? I think someone was being careless with image '''overwrites'''. I guess now I'm a mod, though I will pretty much only have time to protect images (and the occasional banning of a vandal, but only if I'm 100% sure). ;) You guys did a great job of reverting pics, many times BEFORE I even noticed it myself! :) That was pretty seamless and invisible support, but I suppose that it got tiresome for you guys. I guess I won't have to complain to a mod if I see more vandalism on the site. Thanks. I do like the ability to edit the uploaded images. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

edit: I still can't figure why someone would overwrite an image that was SHOT for IMFDB with a 'stolen' shot from the net. Weird.

==870==
As for the DOTD 870 I would have to get Mossberg ghost ring sights and PUT them on an 870, which is what I'm pretty sure the armorer did. I don't have ANY mossberg sights and currently aren't ready to spend the $$ to pick them up, but I will try to get someone with both to do us the favor and swap them for a pic. I'm pretty sure that will do it for the page. :) Will keep that on the list of things to do.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Finally Fixed! I swear this time! ==

OK - I think I got it - try banning now. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re: Good news==

Excellent! Nice to be rid of that dude finally. I dunno what his problem was, anyway.

I appreciate the nomination for mod, but I must warn you that I'm not sure I can be all that helpful. I'm working 40 hrs. a week now, and I usually don't post from my computer at work. So it's kinda hard for me to keep watch on this site regularly like I could have done when I was still in college. -MT2008

:Oh, I'll most def accept it, provided Bunni's OK with it. I'm sure I can help out to some degree even if I can't always be on the site. I just thought I'd give you a heads-up. -MT2008

==Requests==
Okay, I'll get to it when I can.

==Screencaps==

One thing I'd recommend...for now, we should leave the movie screencaps up, but only if they're ones that haven't been replaced by better ones on their pages. Choi's shots from ''[[The Killer]]'', for instance, are worth keeping. I'll put them on the page when I get around to it. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, I think so. I'm guessing some of these images may have been uploaded for pages that were lost in the Great Crash. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

::Yep, that would be a good idea. And wow...between the two of us, we've REALLY put a serious dent in the number of unused images that were in circulation. Unfortunately, as I'm discovering, there are still some users who uploaded images of guns we already have JUST for their own pages - the ''[[Chaos]]'' page was a good example before I edited it. We're gonna have to watch out for stuff like that, too - unnecessary images of guns that appear on only one page. It looks like user [[User:Mmanalang|Mmanalang]] did this quite frequently - I'm gonna have to work on his ''[[Revolver]]'' page a bit, too. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Jaws==
Go for it, I don't own it. I only added stuff to the page because I saw it on TV. If you do do it though, don't forget to cut out any widescreen bars and gets some nice shots of Sheider shooting his guns, because his current pic on his page is mediocre at best. -GM

==Finally got my CLASSIC 870 police shotgun==
Got brand new wood for it, since the existing wood was beat to crap... I don't remember if you asked for this or not. MPM2008
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]

==4 brothers HK41==
Uh, that's not an HK41. the 41 was the early precursor to the HK91 and fires the .308 round. That's a 223 magazine. that's an HK33.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Someone else put down that it was an HK41, long before AlienQueen. I hadn't seen this movie in a while and couldn't remember what it was myself, but I doubted it was an HK41. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Database Error ==

I just tried to access the article for ''[[The Beast of War]]'' and got some kind of database error. Think you & Bunni could take a look at it and find out what's wrong? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Thanks==
Thanks for recommending me as an admin. to bunni. I really like being an admin. Check out my Leone trilogy sometime. That's a fistful of dollars, for a few dollars more, and the good the bad and the ugly if you don't know. I finally got them done. -GM
:Nice work with Four Brothers, btw.

==New pics==
Thanks. I try to please. I will be shooting a a3 and A4 as well as a Diemaco soon. I really want to start replacing all of the Colt commando and 653 pics when I can. I got better versions of all these guns and as you probably can tell, I've started taking all my pics with a Nikon Digital camera instead of shooting with a film camera and scanning the pics (some of the older ones were that "old School" way). The Digital camera sure makes a difference. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==Thank you much! :)==
I explained my lighting set up to GM45 (you can check it out on his talk page), but it seems pretty complicated, but not so much once it's already set up. But thanks anyway. 99.999999% of the gun pics on the net SUCK! (also they're probably not public domain which is why IMFDB should try to replace as many of the copyrighted images as soon as possible). I just wonder if anyone notices (other than GM, MT, you and the other heavy duty mods/contributors), i.e. people who just visit IMFDB. So far I haven't seen any of my images pirated on other sites, so that's a good thing. :) hahaha.
I replaced one of my older M4 pics with a new one done with the new digital camera... It's one with aftermarket Rails but it's an iconic M4 image that we didn't have a good one of. I will also try to do the LE version and one with an M203, more like Thomas Jane's version in "the PUnisher". [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:48, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Luger P08==
Hahahaha. I finally posted a pic of one of the Lugers we have in inventory. Apparently this is one of the Luger P08s used on the Television show "Hogan's Heroes" in the 1960s. It sure is beat up. Though that info is third hand is the only reason I don't post it because I don't have the info directly from the source. The Barrel was replaced about 20 years ago for some reason, which is why the finish doesn't match. It's a bit of TV history, thought you'd get a kick out of it. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

== Best of War ==

Fixed the page - the issue is with non-english language characters, the database is having an issue with them... I'm still trying to find a solution to that as it seems to be configured correctly... [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==Assault on Precinct 13==

Hey, have you seen the special feature from the ''[[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)‎]]'' DVD where Charles Taylor (the movie's armorer) shows off the guns used in the movie? Dunno if you've thought of this already, but you should screencaps from that and use them on the page, just as GunMaster did for the ''[[Bad Boys]]'' page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
: I should get rid of those pics tho, the armorer was actually showing guns ''similair'' to the ones in the film. I only realized this ''after'' I had finished uploading them. [[Shooter]] had a similair special featture.
::I have a lot of stuff to do tonight so I'll do it tommorow anyway, you starting AOP13 just help give me the extra boost to say "aw, f#@% it". -GM

To Alienqueen11.
I belive I am not aware of vandilising any articles. Maybye it was an edit I made that has been mis-classified as vandilism? I have made an article on Stormboy, which I wasnt sure on due to the fact its a kids movie.
[[User:Ultraussie|Ultraussie]] 03:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
NOTE: Now I remember that ive edited Die Another Day article with vandilism. Please dis-regard my previous message.
[[User:Ultraussie|Ultraussie]] 03:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

==Tears of the Sun==
Nice job chopping off the widescreen bars, it needed that. I did that with [[Quigley Down Under]], and I don't want to do it again after that. [[Training Day]], [[Rambo: First Blood]], and [[Hostage (2005)]] need similair treatment. -GM

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.
==Hostage==
Thanks, it looks much better but you missed one or two of them. How come the Beretta still has black bars but is squished now? -GM
:You missed one of the USP Expert shots. I always thought if they got all distorted that I did the upload wrong, now I knwo. Thanks for fixing it. It looks far better now. -GM

==Request==
I'll keep it in mind. I usually do a bunch of handguns at once, and then a bunch of Rifles at once because I have to shift and adjust the entire lighting setup to do each size. I've done a bunch of images that I haven't uploaded yet, because I want to edit out the plastic pegs holding up the guns in the photographic table. Edit: Some of the Berettas don't interswap. I tried it once. I'll try it amongst a variety of models to see what fits. I've noticed that some different finishes have different tolerances between the frame and the slide. Again I will add that to my long list of things to do.

hehehehe. Here's a weird one. I saw this WAAAAAAYYY in the back of the vault. Figured someone would be interested in it. ;)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] Too bad no one uses them for films...

==mystery gun==
hahaha sorry for being unclear and confusing with my file naming nomenclature :) . That's not an FG421. The file name is actually supposed to be FG42 1st pattern. It's a [[FG 42]] aka Fallschirmjäger Gewehr 42 - the full sized assault rifle that fired the 7.92 Mauser round, used by Fallschirmjäger (German Paratroopers) in World War 2. It's so rare that few people have one. I missed an opportunity to get the 2nd pattern one, and now I'm kicking myself for missing that opportunity. I could have had both versions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==Widescreen Movies==
Two in need of fixing are MT2008's [[Training Day]] and [[The Replacement Killers]] pages, since they are on the main page. Other than my [[Rambo: First Blood]] page, I think that's it. Not to bug you or anything, I just thought I'd let you know. -GM

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==Smokin' Aces==
I don't own it but next time I go out, I'll buy it. My to-do list is sky-high and if I keep buying movies, I'll never bring it down. This is what is in my pile now.
*The Whole Nine Yards/The Whole Ten Yards DVD double featture
*Unforgiven
*Young Guns
*The Last Boyscout
*Mr. & Mrs. Smith (unrated cut)
*Starsky & Hutch
*Daredevil (director's cut)
*Supertroopers
*30 Days of Night
*Speed
*The Dirty Dozen
*Flags of our Fathers
*The Jackal
*Absolute Power
*The Thin Red Line
*Tango & Cash
*Blazing Saddles
As you can see, I'm trying not to make it any bigger until it is a least half done. But I can add one more I suppose. Almost done with ''[[Crank]]'', than I'll do Speed, 30 Days of Night, and the Whole Yards movies. Fun. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 04:08, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Don't know what your thougts are on this but I posted the message below:
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Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since the page was made and effort was put into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark Knight==
Thanks man, I'll get working on it soon. I was just starting when I saw gunny was adding shots. I stopped and started on Mail Call. Once I finish saving those shots, I'll get my DVD on. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I wnat to be a mod ==

I've already requested to be a mod of the forums, though that place isn't as popular of talk as I thought, so I mind as well be one here [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, they are as heavy as they look. They have a real feel to them, but still somewhat lighter since not all of the parts are made of steel. I do play to buy a gas powered M4. It doesn't require a battery and operates by gas, so there is a working bolt and bolt catch, giving it a more realistic feel and even recoil. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 09:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==Heckler & Koch UMP==

I'm sorry for the picture changes I just think it would be better if I could have a same replica of a UMP 45 and a UMP 9 to show how close and what the difference is. If you don't want it fine i'll just upload on other guns.

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==Finally Answering your questions==
Sorry, but sometimes I miss the obvious! :) The AKM Pistol was one of several, I saw one with a painted bolt carrier. The one I photographed has a faded blued carrier. Don't know which variation was in which film. I think Mike's is the full auto gun, Harry's is the Semi auto pistol with a folding stock (Rambo 2008) registered as an SBR, but I'm not sure. So that's why I didn't mention if it was in anything or not, but I'm 100% sure that's the same type of gun. You asked previously if any of my M16s were from Iraq. That is unlikely for any armorer. All of the US Property marked M4s or M16s are being used or utilized by the military or national guard or given away to allied nations. All of our guns are lower receivers within the domestic chains of commerce, either pre-1986 transferable full auto lowers or post 86 dealer samples, none of which would be overseas or used by any government entity, whether military or law enforcement. Sometimes we "could" pick up a post 86 sample that was used by a non government entity (aka private party) like Blackwater Security in Iraq, but that's hypothetical and it hasn't happened. It's also funny that IMFDB tries to determine whether or not an M16 was the A2 or A3 variant. I don't know how some of the other rental houses get their stuff nowadays, but I would venture a guess that 95% of all the M4s or A4s are just commercially purchased barreled upper receivers, mounted on existing full auto A1 or A2 style lower receivers (built up and registered with ATF). I have rarely seen any 3 round burst guns in Movie armories, since no movie director ever uses it, so why spend the money on it. It's all smoke and mirrors and we build and rebuild guns all the time to make things look like the latest and greatest incarnation of the guns. I just converted a bunch of M16A1s into A4s for an film (spring 08) and then had to convert all of them BACK to A1 for a Vietnam movie. So most of the time it's a moot point. There are no distinctive A2s or A3s or C7s, or at least we can't tell from the rate of fire since most of the guns are "Build ups". All M16s in inventory go full auto or semi auto only. (that's as far as I've seen and I've handled and inspected literally one hundred movie M16/AR15 variants, including carbines, 9mms, fake XM177s, A1s, A2s, M4s, A4s). So I wonder, how do we reconcile the difference between the real world and the movie world? I think we should keep on doing as we are doing. Designate the difference between the A2s and A3s (etc) since that's correct in the real world and (whether intentional or not) that's what's being represented in the movies, but be aware that most of the guns are just dressed up A1s. Sorry for the longwinded post. Didn't mean to ramble. Have a happy new year [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW, I'm tickled (again) that IMFDB is the only place on the net to have a pic of this gun. :) (edit)(BTW: I will photograph a C7 for the site soon just to complete the M16 series)

==Mossbergs==
I'm putting up more Mossberg variants, but only those that have appeared in films. I also have some of the wooden stocked 500s (like the ones in The Way of the Gun). Which mossbergs do you want? Let me know and I'll put them on the list, but I am actively photographing more Mossbergs for the page right now anyway. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I see what you wanted. Sure, you did fine. I thought you wanted me to cut out the 500 with heat shield on the comparison pic and replace it with the straight model, which would have taken more time. But you did great. You also cropped it just like I prefer it :) hahaha. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==Scarface==
Do you still own Scarface? If you do, could you add a few extra shots? I recently have looked at Legions of Fate's page and it is a lot more filled out. Since a lot of people see that page, I think we kind of owe it to them to fill it out. Not that I'm forcing you to do it, just let me know if you do and you can. Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, I've been putting off [[Mail Call]] for almost a month now. Just finally uploading the season one caps. Then I'm going to do season two, which is pretty low on guns. The SNAFU dvd (which is goofs) has a LOT of guns and I'm really looking forward to it. I'm also going to link a youtube page showing the episode where Gunny goes to knob creek. Look up "Mail Call Knob Creek" if you have 20 minutes free and watch the pure awesomeness. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Nothing pisses me off more when people delete screencaps I take from a page. I think they do it because some of the shots look similair enough that they feel they should be removed. That isn't their right to decide. The person did it on [[The Dark Knight]] with the modified Glock with the shots of the Joker loading up and the flashpaper gun when it fires (the muzzle flash was very hard to catch) and he did this with the Collateral page when I noted how he missed the third guy and the muzzle flash shot with the USP in the club. Apparently anonymous users don't understand how hard our work can be. If he deletes another image, I'm banning his ass. If he returns and continues to delete images, I'm going to hunt him down and kill him. It is my right as a screencapper and an administrator. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Do anonymous users have a hate for my work? Apparently that guy thought my opinion was irrelavent for the site. I blocked the page for obvious reasons. I have half a mind to block him. I've always been adamant that anonymous users should not be able to edit. Like you said, at this rate that will eventually be the case. Thank god we have the ability to revert these asshole's changes. I for one can't believe he got rid of the whole faulty scope section and anything that sounded like an opinion. I was just listing goofs. What a douche bag. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE:==

Yeah, it annoyed me, too, mostly because it wasn't even that good a picture. Considering how much shit you can put on an M4 (just look at all the stuff that's included in SOPMOD), I would rather these users not set a precedent where anyone can upload a new picture of a gun we have simply because we don't have one with the ''exact'' same accessories setup as one in a particular movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==DOD shotgun==
Still working on the Ghost ring gun, but I did manage to upload a surelight version that Ving Rhames used earlier in the film.
[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg‎|thumb|none|550px|Remington 870 with Model 618 Surefire light - 12 gauge]] Will keep you posted when I get the Ghost ring version done. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==M1-C==
It loads the same. The whole point of the scope being off to the left (not right), is so the clip can be loaded and ejected. Personally I hate left mounted scopes, it makes aiming akward and you usually end up using your none dominant eye. Hope I helped.

And after so long, I finally am getting shoot em up screencapped. I tried downloading VLC media to screencap it but it was too hard to use so I used my sister's 1200 dollar laptop. It screencaps higher quality so it will look great. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Your question to Gunmaster45 about the M1C==
Sorry in interject here. I'm sure GM will say the same thing, but the scope are offset on these sniper rifles. They mount to the shooter's left off from the center line of the rifle. So you can still load and unload Enblocs from the top of the rifle. Here is an example I shot for you ;)
[[Image:M1CScopeMount.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M1C Garand Sniper rifle Scope mount - note how the scope hangs over the side, casting a shadow on the left side of the rifle wood.]]
Hope this helps. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

==Beretta M9==

''And if it's possible, can you obtain a U.S Military issue Beretta M9, I know it's very much the same as a Beretta 92FS, but I heard there were some slight differences, and it would go great with the M9A1 you uploaded before. But if you can't get ahold of it, it's okay. The 870 and the Beretta 92FS Inox are the main things I want.''

I'm not aware of any external differences, besides the fact that the M9 says "M9" instead of "92FS" on the slide. Actually, I take that back...I have seen at least one M9 that had the dot-bar sight instead of the three-dot sight. From what I read, this either is or was standard, but it's not exactly relevant because if MPM took a picture of an M9 from the side, you wouldn't be able to tell.

Anyway, the thing is...I can't imagine that there are any movies that use real military-issue M9s. I'm pretty sure all of the movies you see that have U.S. military personnel use the same Beretta 92FS (marked) pistols that are available to civilians. You already know that armorers are in the habit of dressing up M16A1s to look like A2s, or Browning M2s to look like DShKs, because they know the average moviegoer won't know the difference, so why would they go through the trouble of getting M9s just for the markings?

So if you ask me, it seems like a waste to have MPM photograph an M9. No movies use it, and there's just so much other stuff on his request list that I think this site needs ''way'' more than a picture of a Beretta M9. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Out of town starting late tonight==
Am going on location and meeting with a director and television executive for the standard business stuff, but I will be traveling between midnight tonight and Tuesday, so I will be offline until then. So if I don't answer a question right away, it's because I'm in a meeting or on location. Thanks. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==
One [[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]]'s page, it says you blocked him for vandalism. He'd been a rather dilligent user in the past, what did he vandalize exactly? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Thanks==
I'm back again. hahahaha. i guess I should have CC'd you on the pics updates to Gunmaster45 and MT2008. My bad. I mentioned to them that I wanted to be the one to 'do the honors' of updating the pages with my pics, but you beat me to it. :) Well, that's what I get for getting yanked out of town on an emergency film shoot for a week. I will be posting about 30 new pics soon and I will be trying to update as I go along. best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Updates==
So what did you think of my last massive update? past the initial posting on the 'obvious pages' any other updates that are required, are appreciated. :) I spoke to the armorer of True Romance and made changes that he pointed out (and also photographed the GUNS). I was pretty thrilled when I got to photograph the original Beretta Pistols (though I will have to call the armorer and double check on the movie chronology and model type again) for the movies Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. I got the original Model 19 from Lethal Weapon (though I don't know if Danny Glover keeps it in any of the other movies (I stopped watching them after LW2 when I realized the director's incredibly anti gun views). I sure hope people don't mind that I replace some of their pics. I am also trying to replace LMO's movie gun pics where I can (since they belong to Dan Shea) and frankly, I think I take better pics of the guns ... ;) Did you get to check out the XXX movie guns? :) I replaced the 629 from both films with my own shot. I still have to double check the filmography of some of the guns. When I'm photographing the guns, we're literally pulling them out of the vault like crazy and photographing them and putting them back as quick as I can. As you can tell I had a TON of help from some pretty heavy hitters in the movie Armorer crowd and I think they like the way I take pics of their stuff. Anyway, if you want me to keep on going, let me know :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:28, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for the formatting advice!==
Works like a charm! I fixed the 5906 page and it works great! As per the Berettas, yes, they were in a museum glass case. I just asked 'Hey! Can I take these out and photograph them?" So I did. I was very careful and put them on a Rubbermaid clear box that I brought with me and snapped away. It was less than Ideal photographic settings, since it was NOT in a studio with all the white backgrounds and special lighting rigs. I had just one working portable light and had to make do with that. I did a LOT of photoshop after the fact to clean up the pics. That I was pretty surprised that they were that beat up, but they have been used a lot and were in films as of 1986 up to the early 1990s. Anyway, sorry for my long winded post previously. You responded to me before I could post my initial comments! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen11
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Got A Project Idea For You ==

Think I found a movie that might be of interest for you to make a page for here; the 1997 sci-fi/horror film ''[[The Relic]]''. It features a monster terrorizing a Chicago museum and at one point a SWAT team is sent in to try to stop the creature and in another scene survivors try to escape the museum via the sewers and I believe at least one of them is armed with some kind of shotgun. Let me know what you think. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 03:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Regarding message "Re: Imagine if you will......." on MPM's talk page==
The "green-looking Beretta" is a Taurus PT92 stunt gun from what I see. They typically use these for training people in gun handling who can't be trusted or for teaching disarming techniques when the gun needs to be dropped. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==You so owe me ;) ==
It was difficult to do the gun, but I said I would and I did. Mossberg and Remington parts are NOT easily interchangeable so I am mystified as to why the armorer for Dawn of the Dead did this franken-gun in the first place?
[[Image:Custom870wMossbergGhostRing.jpg|thumb|none|800px|Custom Remington 870 combat shotgun with Mossberg Ghost Ring sights - this is a shotgun built up exactly (!!!) like the one in the film]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

::edit - Fixed it, NOW it looks like the one in the movie. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:19, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

==Dawn of the Dead shotgun==
IMFDB member '''[[User:yournamehere|Yournamehere]]''' was right about the shotgun. He pointed out that it has an aftermarket extension tube, rather than the Stock remington one, and the tube clamp is set further back on the gun. I have one of those aftermarket extended tubes (easily swappable) and the tube clamp is easily moveable. I can swap out the aftermarket tube, put the shotgun back on the photography stand and rephotograph it. Argggh. More work for me, but I am glad IMFDB user's eagle eyes caught that, since I was building a gun based on screenshots. I will try to install that stuff and reshoot the gun tonight. MPM2008 Remember, if it ain't 100% then it ain't worth doing ;)

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

==Re: Jacked images==

Oh, and look who it is that's been doing it, too...our good friend [[User:Cutaway|Cutaway]]. I've warned him about a whole bunch of things before (not the least of which includes uploading insane amounts of images we don't need). You think we should take harsher action this time? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

:OK, will do. But Cutaway seems to have a remarkable lack of regard for formatting and other stuff. He's also in the habit of ignoring requests. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Regarding the break, I actually didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a BUNCH of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. hahahaha. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==link==
''Edit MPM2008, When you come back, I think you should see this:[1] ''
Okay. It's a Mark 23 page on Wikipedia. :) ????????? MPM2008

== Molotov from "Hostage" ==

While I do agree that this is a weapon, this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs don't qualify. Sorry.

==I'm confused here==
I may have forgotten so I need help. How was it that you ended up uploading this pic?
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:KahrCW9.jpg
Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

==Image rewrites==
Well I am against re-uploads for several reasons. I put on an electronic tag (i.e. an electronic watermark) but only recently. I am concerned that some of the images are right click 'saved' and when they are reloaded, the older 'saved' image overwrites the version with the newer electronic (copyright IMFDB) info that was invisible and only viewable through special software. Just a thought, since I don't have them on all my pics and I haven't gone through and redone all the old pics. Other than that issue, it's just stupid unless they want to somehow take credit for the pic (which seems to be a temptation for some members of IMFDB). MPM2008

== k98k better than the smle? ==

ok I won't edit anymore. what do you think about what I said?

if you study it ,you will find that the Mauser is better than the Lee Enfield.

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redirecting==
Go to "Move" at the top of the page. It is WAY easier than making a new page and writing "#REDIRECT" and then linking it, which I'm assuming is what you do? BTW, glad to see you making pages, I haven't seen your work in a while. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, I hope you do upload some new shots for "I Am Legend". Bunni's caps on the page are too small IMO and some of the shots are jacked from Legions of Fate's site, which isn't cool. CTone has the right to be pissed if he finds his images on here. BTW, I linked The Hills Have Eyes so if someone searches it with the "THE" first it will redirect there. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I usually only replace shots when they are low res or really small. In I Am Legend's case, I see the caps as kind of being both. So I'd recommend you replace them. Besides, it is easier to screencap a movie if you take every cap necessary and never think "Oh, that one's already on the site", because then it is easier to miss things. And CTone does a great job on his site, although he doesn't always capture every gun in the movie as the users on IMFDB do. He's better for commentary, which I find quite insightful. I look forward to seeing IAL. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::It's cool that you're doing new shots, but...how did you miss that really good close-up of the Mark 23's handle when it's sitting in the door of his SUV? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

::::Yeah, it's just my opinion, but I figure that's pretty much the best shot of the gun in the whole movie. I remember people on HKPRO used to argue over whether the gun was a USP or a Mark 23 before someone posted that exact shot from the DVD.

::::Also, just an FYI...the civilian Mark 23 isn't called the "SOCOM"; it's just called the Mark 23. You can see the picture of the gun we have, it just says "HK Mark 23" on the slide. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not to be a pain, but do you think you could grab just TWO more shots from I Am Legend? We have images showing how it is equiped with a TA31F ACOG and a Pentagon light, do you think you could snap a shot of the false reticule and when he uses the light in the dark house so those sections can be filled out? I'd do it myself but I don't own the film, I just rented it one time. Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

==Thanks==
I had no idea that this guy plagiarized the entire page from another site. Yep, that's a sure fire DELETE in my book. Thanks so much for the input. MPM2008

==Thanks==
Thanks you for the compliment! I didn't like the older Taurus images. That low resolution Stainless model pic bugged me for a long time. Also movies change the components so now that I have the guns (or easy access to them) I can swap out items to make the gun look identical to the movie versions. It's nice to know that folks notice ;) BTW: do you think we're spoiled regarding gun pics. I remember the bad old days when we had so many jacked AIRSOFT images! ugh! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500AT wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500AT wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the AT wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks so much!==
Yes, now I remember! Wow, I even made contributions to that page, but I forgot all about it and was searching through my requests to see who asked for a 590 in that configuration. Argghhh. I must be dyslexic or something! Those weren't AT stocks, but 500C stocks. I made the change to the Dead Presidents page to reflect that. AT has the vertical riot grooves. Sometimes my brain just doesn't work! Thanks again! You are too kind re: the photography compliment.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

==Any old gun page will do!==
Cutaway is not the only one doing it. New members are starting to post gun pages on whatever gun they think is cool, regardless of whether they appeared in anything or not. I'm tempted to start giving them a deadline to list a film, television show, anime, VG in which this firearm appears ..... or else I am DELETING their page. I am also tempted to delete the pages (not the images but just the page) of those bizarre Cutaway experimental guns that don't appear in anything (Like the Siamese Tromix which is a ONE OFF experimental gun from some custom gun maker in the SouthEastern U.S.). to be fair I will also have to DELETE my own Browning Pro-9 page, since I don't think it has appeared in anything yet, even though the images are of blank adapted guns in active armorer inventory. Should I keep pages for guns that are (a) blank adapted and (b) already in active rental inventory of SOME armory? The chances of them appearing in a future project is far greater than these obscure foreign or experimental guns. I look forward to your opinion on this. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

== Bravo ==

Thank you for getting rid of those rediculous movie & game templates, that was a great move. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks, been meaning to do some of those for a long time now, and I just scored a subscription to Blockbuster Total Access so I decided to start getting some of my to-do list sorted out. Pitty you can only get videos with that instead of games though. I also have more that I plan to work on using this, including the anime preceeding ''[[Patlabor: The Movie 2]]''. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

==I Am Legend==
The page looks great now, finally complete! BTW, thanks for removing the dumbass templates Dragon put on all the pages. Also, are you ever going to join the forum? You're a main user here, you should check out the forum. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Why do people forget Category:Movie?==
Actually sometimes I don't mind that they do forget Categorizing their pages. Some of the pages suck so bad that I want them to completely fall off the radar and not embarrass IMFDB ;) MPM2008

==RedHeat link==
Sorry about that. I forgot and linked the gun title. I will try really hard not to mess that up again :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

==Podbyrin==
Unfortunately it is a detailed copy of the pistol, made by a gunsmith fan of the movie built up from a 357 DE. It is a live firing pistol and adapted for hollywood blanks. Since i KNOW it is not a screen used pistol from Red Heat, but it may be a screen used pistol for [[V.I.P.]], should I remove it? I took a pic of it because it was 99% accurate (everything but the trigger guard) and I believed it to be the best pic of the Podbyrin on the net. Anyway, I'm glad you like it :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== ''Bad Boys II'' Screencaps ==

I would prefer they be changed back to the 400px size, please. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 03:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Gran Torino==
I'm getting it for my birthday on the 27th of this month so I'll try to get it done by that time. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==template==
Thanks but PhoenixEnt designed the original template. I am just playing around with it to try to see what format seems best, and boy is it hard. I sure hope we all agree on something :) Thanks for the note, though. I am hoping my suggestions for the final version of the template will be instituted or something close, but I think the MODS should try to agree on something that we all think will suit the different pages well. Thanks. MPM2008

:Hey, Thanks for the good word. I am just part of the group that was thinking a little outside the IMFDB box. The template will be a great addition to IMFDB looks once it is all ratified between the Admins on the layout of the columns. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
Thanks for the note. To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:27, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==True Lies==
I've seen your [[True Lies]] page on the site for a very long time and you did an excellent job with it. It's one of my all time favorite movies. But I noticed both your DVD and mine put out some low-res squish images that look like some bizzare widescreen. I was wondering if I could re-do the page with specially treated images? I tried it with a shot of Arnie firing his Ruger P90 and it looks a little better:
[[Image:TrueLiesRugerP90test.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Granted the image isn't blu-ray quality, but it looks better right?]]
Let me know. It seems like I've been re-doing a lot of other people's old pages lately, mainly because I saved these movies on my list for last. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==the Hills have Eyes redirect==
I think it needs to be fixed. The part Category:Movie should be removed '''prior''' to the redirect and then amended later. After redirect we can put the Category":Movie part. Now the system thinks that there are two movies, one called "'''The''' Hills Have Eyes" sorted in the "T" section and "'''Hills''' Have Eyes, The" in the "H" Section. And I can't remove the Category:Movie part from the original redirected page. the other redirects were done like this. Can you fix it? I can't figure out how to fix it. Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:25, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

==Hills have eyes==
Thanks. I just noted it to you because I didnt' want to delete if you created it. The only way, it appears, to clear a ((category:Movie)) code from a redirected page is to delete it and create it from scratch. I've found that the re-directed page must be blank or uncategorized lest the blank page show up in the alphabetical listing. This was done several times intentionally with titles like Raiders of the lost ark, where someone input 'indiana jones and the raiders of the lost ark' so that it grouped in with all of the other films and yet re-directed correctly to 'raiders of the lost ark' as well as having an entry in the 'r' section as well. :) Thanks. I've been pretty busy so I've not been that active on IMFDB recently. Hope everything is still going well :) best regards MPM2008

==RE: Happy Birthday==
Thanks. Also, I got ''[[Gran Torino]]'' screencapped last night and am going to upload the screencaps now. After watching it, I have to say it is now one of my favorite movies. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
==RE Incomplete Category==
No problem, Thank Vangelis as well for making a incomplete template in addition :)
--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Alien vs. Predator: Requiem==

I did a bit of a re-vamp on the [[Alien vs. Predator: Requiem|AvP:R]] page. Nothing personal; just thought it would be better to post some improved screencaps with the correct aspect ratio, which is about 2.25:1 (instead of the 2:1 that yours had, which makes them look crushed horizontally). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:Nah, I'm still using VLC Media Player. However, there's a setting on VLC that allows you to change the Prefix of the screencaps when they're sent to your "My Pictures" folder, so that they won't all have "vlcsnap" on them. Because I've taken so many screencaps for this site, and because there's only a finite number of 5-digit numbers, I started to have issues with screencaps having the same File Name when I uploaded them. Better to ditch the "vlcsnap" prefix and get one that's movie-specific.

:Most of the screencaps on pages you've worked on look a bit "crushed" horizontally. It's most likely because your media player (whatever you use) has the aspect ratio set too low. The previous AvPR images you uploaded had an aspect ratio of 2:1. A better ratio is about 2.2:1 or 2.3:1, depending on what your player allows. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==

Basically, it turns out that there may be some legal issues involved. I really can't say a whole lot more than that, but I'm trying to get to the bottom of the matter. In the meantime, the pictures, and any references to the company (you'll notice I deleted your post on my Talk Page) by name, have to go. I realize this seems strange, but please trust me on this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, I really don't know what I'm doing in this case, and I'm worried that I may have gotten IMFDB into trouble. Or I might also be over-reacting a bit. It's just kind of hard to be sure right now, so to protect us, I'm taking precautions. I will figure out exactly what's going on, though. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re:Announcement 1==
The sporterized version has double set triggers used to lighten the trigger pull to make shots more accurate.

Info on sporterized version :After the World War I, the Treaty of Versailles left Germany extremely constricted in terms of military power. Civilians were not allowed to have any use of standard military weapons or ammunition. Since the 8 x 57 IS round was so stout and great for hunting, people did not want to give up on it, so a redesign of the cartridge was made for the civilian market and the 8 x 60 S accommodate the new longer case.

The also rare 8 x 64 S cartridge offers a comparable rechambering option for Mauser Gewehr 98 and Karabiner 98k rifles sporting 8 mm S-bores. Due to its larger case capacity the 8 x 64 S chambering offers better ballistic performance than the 8 x 60 S. Some custom rifles were made using Mauser 98's and rechambering them for the 9 x 57 Mauser.

Since the purpose for these rifles was hunting and sporting, the bolt was professionally bent down, gradually the bent bolt became the standard and replaced the older straight bolt (though that was of course not always the case). The standard military sights were replaced by a 100 m sight, along with a flip-up on the rear sight for 200 m. The military stocks were replaced by newer ones that did not include the extra piece of stock for the bayonet lug.

Today these sporter rifles are extremely rare and the 8 x 60 and 8 x 60 S, 8 x 64 and 8 x 64 S and 9 x 57 Mauser cartridges are nearly obsolete, as only few mainstream ammunition manufacturers along with some other smaller companies continue to produce them. When correct ammunition is used in a converted rifle, a 8 x 60 (S), 8 x 64 (S) or 9 x 57 Mauser modified Gewehr 98 can be an extremely potent and inexpensive long-range big-game rifle.

Also, many Gewehr 98 rifles acquired as trophies by Allied forces during the war and brought to the US were converted to the 8mm-06 wildcat cartridge, a modification of the original 8 x 57 IS chambering to 8 x 63 S to accommodate the use of common and inexpensive surplus .30-06 Springfield cartridges, with their 7.62 mm (.30 caliber) bullets replaced by 8 mm (.323 caliber) bullets. Such conversions are indistinguishable from unmodified rifle without careful examination, and can be quite dangerous if fired with the shorter 8 x 57 mm ammunition, as the cartridge case will stretch to fit the elongated chamber and possibly rupture in the process, spraying the shooter with leaked propellant gas. However, the Mauser 98 action is designed specifically to direct gas away from the shooter in the event of a case rupture. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 03:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Thanks for reminding me. You can probably leave it. I'm planning to re-post the other pictures in about another week or so. It's really only the ''[[Public Enemies]]'' pictures that got us into trouble, not the others, so I'll probably restore the rest at some point. I'm only waiting to see if the situation has quieted down. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==(here is a note I've been posting around IMFDB)==
''I recently had the unpleasant experience of having some of the performers being insulted in some of our movie pages see what some of the IMFDB members write. there are some pretty condescending remarks regarding horrible grips, gun stance, bad gun discipline and blinking while shooting. I'm trying to promote the website and it's embarrassing to see actors getting insulted for pretty trivial reasons. What are your thoughts regarding this?

See below:''

'''I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions'''
Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==whoa==
Your edits are completely conflicting with my edits and crashing my updates. If you want to change all the Cruiser pics, go ahead, but let me know. THanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC) (edit) WOW you're fast. Show off! ;) You finished the pages before I could get to them.... :)

==Mariner cruiser==
I'll try to take a pic of a Mariner cruiser soon. I vaguely remember you asking me for a Remington 870 with black synthetic riot furniture. Was it you? I photographed one and was going to upload it but wasn't sure where it was needed. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

==Remington 870 with black stocks==

Well here you go. I won't make any edits with this image until you're done with it ;)

[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 gauge. Remington has since changed the styling of their black synthetic furniture. ]]

== RE: Help! Do you have an aim or gtalk account we can chat over? ==

email me at cserrano@gmail.com

== OK, i think I've got a workaround ==

You can download the old version of the image file by clicking on the date the file was uploaded, then you get the original image. Download that image and re-upload it. For some reason the revert buttons aren't working. I did try and undo changes on pages and that was working for me OK. So FYI MPM's images aren't lost, the revert function just isn't working for some reason - I'll have my network admins take a look. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 00:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

:Looks like you figured out my workaround for the moment. The network admins are working on tracking down the bug, it may have been caused by the recent server move. The network admins username is Unixy, you may see them playing with images - reverting and uploading - don't ban them! They're just testing it out. Thanks much! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 01:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

::Man, it's too bad that loser came back and screwed with the images. When we banned him the first time, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he just had troubles with English or something, but now it's clear that he is an out-and-out vandal. Sucks what happened. Anything I can do? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

:::I still see the image he uploaded. I think it's another bug. Like Chris said, the server probably just has glitches. Earlier today, I tried to delete some pictures that someone uploaded unnecessarily, and I couldn't for some reason. Hopefully, the server team can get the glitches ironed out. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for your actions==
I was perusing the recent history and it looked like ALL hell had broken loose! I first thought that the server had crashed since multiple people were uploading what looked like my old files :) WTF happened? I guess now everything is back to normal, i presume. I think that the system is okay, since I saw the Blaser 93 on my page when I logged in and it looked okay. My own internet speed has been really SLOW today. I try to come in early today but it timed out several times. So I gave up and came back later. I guess that was a good thing. Whatever chaos happened, is gone now. Thanks for protecting my images. Now I have no problems with obviously superior pics being uploaded (I mean *I* do that to other pics, but I usually only overwrite crappy and obviously jacked images). Thanks..........so what else is new? ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

==What's going on with the site??!?!?!==
My IP address was blocked "indefinitely" for ''"Spamming to external links"'' WTF? Uh, that's not me. But I can log in and edit, but the first error message was just plain weird. It said to contact Alienqueen1 for information. Is the server acting really weird and mixing and matching errors and profiles around? Also I'm getting 503 error message more often than not. I figure something weird is going on, but I sure hope the system doesn't mix everything around and I end up getting banned because it thinks I'm someone else. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

==Huh?==
Yep that's me. but No one uses my machine, it's locked up near the GUNS ;) and I would NEVER put Russian language gibberish on any page. Holy cow, can a Russian douchebag steal my IP address? I actually think the screwed up servers mistakenly logged MY IP address when this Russian vandal posted on the Main page. It all leads back to the servers.... The servers..... are evil..... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

==Crazy Russian==
Of course now I'm worried that the general membership will think I'm some sort of asshole who randomly puts Russian language gibbberish on the main talk page! ;) '' "I swear those Viagra commercials were not mine!"'' [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

=='''Okay now that's weird'''==
(a) the changes on the Psych page were NOT me, however, MY IP address is seen on the history page. His changes weren't that bad. (b) the changes on the M1911 page AGAIN were NOT me. I would not put Dillinger's machine pistol M1911 on the page because it is a one off and like the Custom Remington 870 on Dawn of the Dead, should not clutter the M1911 page, except as a footnote. You are right. The anonymous user is using the same IP address as me and it is NOT ME. I always LOG in as MPM2008 when I edit now. I never edit while anonymous. That is weird.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

:Testing, this is MoviePropMaster2008 editing in anonymous mode [[Special:Contributions/64.120.163.246|64.120.163.246]] 02:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::Okay I am back, logged in a MoviePropMaster2008. Yep, that is my IP Address, but I didn't make any of those changes. I think the servers are screwed up. I still get 503 error messages all the time and this anonymous user doesn't sound like a Russian Spammer. This is serious. We routinely block vandals and now it looks like we'll be blocking useful members (or mods) without meaning to. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Testing--[[Special:Contributions/64.120.163.246|64.120.163.246]] 04:29, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

==New INOX photo!==
Hope you like the new Inox photo.
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9mm. This is a screen used gun by Kate McQuean ([[Cindy Crawford]]) in the film [[Fair Game]] (1995) ]]
[[Image:Beretta92FS 2ToneType01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Two Tone - 9mm. This was built by swapping an Inox slide onto a Standard barrel and frame.]]

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the assist with the problem I had with that link. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 06:38, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

==Thank you==
:Thanks for restoring the content of my user page. It took like an hour to type up in the first place and I didn't want to have to do it all over again-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:10, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, that would be great-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks (again)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Glock 19==

Alright, if you don't mind doing it. But as of my current count, there are 57 pages where the image needs to be replaced. Also be sure to delete the old one once you're through. Now, I must stop procrastinating and finish my seminar paper research... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for your help==
On replacing the Glock 19 2nd Gen pics. I did that exactly why you thought I did. I wanted the file to be named Glock19 2nd Gen, not WViewpoint.jpg which made no sense, but it was the name of the original jacked image that I cleaned up per MT's request. Hope you like the new screen used gun updates. It's a ton of work but I"m still working on getting IMFDB the best pics of screen used weapons :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

==Where should I put this?==
People should realize that any film done after 1989 could have a Poly Tech Legend AK since it was the most accurate commercial copy of the original AK-47 milled receiver open front sight guns, other than using real AK-47 kits that became available after 1991 and making Domestic milled AK receivers (like they did for [[We Were Soldiers]]. Only films done outside the U.S. could get AK47s and after the fall of the wall in 1989-1990 Russia didn't export real AKs to the U.S. however their parts kits got here.
[[Image:AK47-PolyTechLegend.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Poly Tech Legend Series AK-47 Rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
Should I make a new section for it? or put it in the AK47 section? Either way a ton of work needs to be done on the AK47 page. I got a line on more original AK pics and also the "custom built" AKs like the ones in [[We Were Soldiers]]. Best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

So are you sick of my gun pics updates yet? ;)

== User: 216.170.149.34 ==

This user wrote on the [[Die Hard 2]] talk page, after someone left a comment about how the plane in the movie has an ejector seat, "yes it does doo-doo head" (this is probably the dumbest comment I've seen someone write, but nonetheless). Could you block this user? Thank you. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
::Um, I've seen veteran members, even one mod, get hostile or sarcastic in their comments. Depending on the circumstance, people sometimes get 'punchy'. I would tend to not view a mocking comment like that (despite it being infantile) in the same vein as an active vandal. But then that's just me. :) And you guys all know, I NEVER lose MY temper! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

==You won't believe this==
Score! I've been holding off uploading these because I'm still waiting on an image for the [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page (their weapons are set up slightly differently) so I hope people will wait to update that page until I can get a good image for that page.

===Say Hello to My Little Friend!!!===
[[Scarface]] fans will crap in their pants. Got the ACTUAL '''screen used''' LITTLE FRIEND. Now I used black gaffers tape and taped two 30 round magazines together as best I could (to try to match the screenshots). Do you think that was smart? or should I just present it with a plain magazine? Anyway, I did that because I wanted people to see it as it was most seen in the movie (Wow that launcher is beat up, it's been 25 years after all since the movie was filmed!!!!) It is also the old launchers that were used before the Cobray 37mm launchers became prevalent.
[[Image:M16A1M203ScarfaceCombo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tony Montanas' 'Little Friend' from the movie [[Scarface]] - Motion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16A1 - 5.56mm/39mm]]

===Screen used Zabala Shotgun===
This IS the gun used by 'The Skull' [[Gino Silva]] to blast Tony Montana in the movie. I also included a closeup shot of the top of the gun to show the markings.
[[Image:SBS-Shotgun_Scarface.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Screen used side by side Spanish Zabala Shotgun from the movie [[Scarface]] - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:SBS-ShotgunTOP_Scarface.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Top of the Screen used side by side Spanish Zabala Shotgun from the movie [[Scarface]] - 12 gauge. Note manufacturer markings on the top of the shotgun.]]

===RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!!!===
Recognize this lovely? I've been waiting to get pics for the [[Predator]] page for a while. So many weapons have either been sold off or taken apart and reconfigured for other movies.
[[Image:M16M203PredatorCombo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Motion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16/SP1 Rilfe - 5.56mm/39mm. Configured as it appeared in the movie.]]

'''IMFDB is the only place in the WORLD, now that has these images. How cool is that?''' :) I got some screen used muskets from Last of the Mohicans (from private collections), which is interesting since I usually don't get many pre 1848 weapons.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

==This user==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User_talk:67.183.66.44 That is the user that keeps adding the 870 pics I put into the talk page back onto the main page. (they were never on the main page before that also) I fixed it a day or two ago and he keeps putting them back in there. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

==Jacked images==
Thanks for deleting those jacked images. I thought [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] owned those when he uploaded them. I think I cleaned up one, but again, I am not sure, but for some reason I thought he did not jack them. Oh well. Of all folks on IMFDB, I think I hate jacked images the most. It pisses off the original copyright holders and I am sure they are writing about what 'pirates' IMFDB users are ... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

== Shooter ==
Charles, i hope you dont mind, but im going to do a revamp of [[Shooter]] and get a few pictures of guns that was missed. I will credit you as the creator of the page. Thank you in advance. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]
:Thanks, but all i good really get was a good pic of the Cobray launcher. The others were just too fast to get a decent pic. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

==M60==
Actually I don't remember. I was going to reshoot the M60 shots anyway, so probably thats why I never bothered. Where have you been? I've been fighting the noobs all alone. I think I have a handful of veteran regular members assisting with undoing a bunch of erroneous edits by noobs or anonymous drive by members and no Mods to help ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==Superfraud==
Look at his contributions. He's acting like a dick. It's bannhammer time.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:Also impersonating a Mod merits a stern warning. The fact that his only contributions were insults (pretty much) then that eliminated any suspicion that he was 'up to no good' and was in fact, making the MODS look bad, by acting like a jerk (even though I think I've slipped and acted like one in the past ... LOL! ;) )[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==the member on probation==
Good to see you doin' the Mod thang again! :) Thought I was out there all alone! ;) I was tracking this 'guy' and realized that nearly all of his 'contributions to IMFDB' were things like this:
:''-Who pissed in your goddam cornflakes this morning??? Give the kid a break, he's having a little fun. So shut the fuck up unless you have something constructive to say, got it?''[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:''-I don't like your tone, so stow it! He was just trying to help you, so swallow your goddamn attitude!''[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:''-Yeah... this jackass doesn't know dick about firearms. Fucking moron.'' [[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:''-Learn to fucking spell, asshole''[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]

It's like an angrier Oliviera without any of the actual contributions. LOL! So I hope you agree with my stern initial warning. So far it's just bad judgment versus actual intentional vandalism, but deleting sections of pages makes the Mods watch him very carefully. :)

Anyway, it's good to see you out there smacking down the attitudes on IMFDB again. :D regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

::I'm back for a few hours. I have Internet access but I'm not on my own computer so I can't upload any pics for now. Watch out for this Striker Delta. His IP address is 60.241.135.241 so he also does anonymous contributions under that as well. I noticed a few minutes ago that he is back to deleting whole sections of discussion sections. Now, those sections were kinda dumb anyway (one of them was the argument on the M16 page about full auto versus semi auto), but Mods should be the ones to delete sections, not some noob. It is not for a new guy to determine what is relevant in a discussion section, IMHO, not having had the experience of knowing what is relevant over a long time. Also he tends to delete QUESTIONS posed by other new members on discussion pages, some of which I think we should see so that we can address them. I can't monitor his activity being that I'm working 16 hour days this month, but I hope you can keep an eye on him. thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC) well back to work!

== WAW ==

Quick question, what the **** with world at war? I haven't been her in a while so please explain to me what went on.[[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks for the comments ==

Thanks for your comments, I hope the user will take heed. I'm replacing some of the PNG's with JPG's for [[The Incredible Hulk]] and [[Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine]] pages. If you delete those PNG's I've replaced, that would be great. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:40, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Hybrid==
It should NOT be on the Thompson page, but I suppose it's okay on the U571 page since it's attempting to replicate what they had. I am going to try and figure out what exactly they had, mock it up and photograph it later.

BTW:
Check this out:
Hope you don't mind me uploading it OVER your pic? Just checking. I don't have the Parker-hale Bipod, but I figured What the heck.
[[Image:Accuracy International Arctic Warfare - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|800px|Accuracy International AW 308 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:32, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

::Done, I deleted my pic and overwrote the old pic so that all the links to the pages still work :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:52, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

==Should I have blocked this guy?==
He's an anonymous IP address and all he did was slowly, bit by bit, delete the entire discussion page of the VG. It struck me as weird, but I could be tired and cranky so I thought I would asked a few other Mods to see if I overreacted. I can always life the ban.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/72.9.28.64
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

that guy sounds like a ass good to ban him. sometimes we have to here that persons side of the story
then ban him, but he deleted the whole page. i hate people that have to ruin others stuff.

==Interesting email I recieved==

I recieved an interesting email today in regards to deleting a duplicate image of an [[RKG-3 anti-tank grenade]], filename 'RKG-3 GRENADE REPLICA.jpg' and I thought I should share it to see what you and the other senior admins think of it. Below is the bulk of the message in its entirety:

"Hello,

Thank you for the image update on IMFDB, we didn’t load those images originally due to copyright issues and chose to use an image from our company website instead. Any questions you have regarding ordnance or weapons feel free to send an email. Thank you and any questions, please do not hesitate to let me know.

Sincerely,

M. Patrick Jordan
Sales and Logistics

INERT PRODUCTS, LLC.
INERT EXPLOSIVE TRAINING PRODUCTS
Email - Sales@Inertproducts.com
Phone: 1-570-341-3751
Fax: 570-300 -1693
http://www.inertproducts.com"

If I'm interpreting this correctly, it sounds like someone uploaded a copyrighted image without permission and the owners of the image emailed me to thank me for removing it. What do you think? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:44, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

==Colt SAA==
Hey, I was just wondering if I could reorganize the SAA page by creating the tables and listing the titles in correct chronological order. I just wanted permission before I started editing things. Thanks --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 23:54, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

==Russian spammers==
And to think that user KLOGA (who apparently is no longer with us due to my evil Cyrillic ban on IMFDB) asserted that 'there are no Cyrillic spammers on IMFDB'. Yeah right. Good job with those two Russian Spammer idiots. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

==Transformers 3==
Okay. I was SNOOKERED. Apparently this member LIAM who is [[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]] is a fanboy who created the facebook page himself, even though the page says the "OFFICIAL" transformers 3 facebook page, thus falsely implying that it is sanctioned by the studio. NOT being a sanctioned facebook page, immediately makes it suspect in my eyes and I vote for deletion. These behind the scenes photos were not released by the studio. They were personally taken by people on set and 'leaked'. The only reason why I did not ban it immediately was because I thought it was an officially facebook sanctioned page. ''' It is not.''' We can get into serious trouble if studio lawyers all of a sudden get pissed at IMFDB and start sending us 'cease and desist' letters to 'remove' all of our screencaps. That would spell the END Of IMFDB. All because of one fanboy idiot. But I wonder what you think about the matter "No Harm done?" or "delete" ? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey Alienqueen,I hope im not botherin you or nutin,Ive been watching the First Man on Fire movie, with Scott Glenn. I think it was made in 1987. Ive been wondering what firearms are used in the movie. I did my research of one of the Berettas he was holding in the movie, its a model Beretta 92SB-C.I was wondering if someone can upload or download the movie on to IMFDB.

== Thanks for your help ==

Just wanted to say thanks for your help. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 09:45, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

==RE: PersonOfInterest==

In a nutshell, he was being himself. If you check the forum, you can see some of the topics he made in the last day. I asked him to stop and promise he wouldn't talk back to admins, and he refused, so now he's gone. That guy is just trouble, no matter what he says or does. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

==Pirates at ZombieWiki==
No, I never gave them permission. What's galling is that they put up help pages outlining the image copyright restrictions by Wikipedia, and yet, I clearly put LICENSED to IMFDB ONLY on the meta data on my photos. Can you help me at all on this? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

==The perpetrator==
of stealing IMFDB gun images and loading them onto the Zombiepedia site is User:MattyDienhoff [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/User:MattyDienhoff]. Personally I don't care that much except for the fact that he does not credit IMFDB for the images. Those are MY licensed images and he technically is in violation of my copyright. Should I warn him? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

==Zombie Wiki==
Thanks so much for looking into this. Actually my copyright is a hidden metafile within the image. If you open it in Photoshop and pull down the menu "File Info" my copyright information is all embedded there. But a long time ago, GM45 thought that I should put a small visible watermark on the image to mark it as IMFDB's only. I thought this destroyed the image, but now I'm beginning to reconsider it :) What are your thoughts? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi its Banukis517, I was hoping if there would be a picture of the Real Sig Sauer P220 in heat used By Robert De Niro. Than just having to only see the real Colt Officer ACP pistol used Al Pacino. If you can find any link or resource that would have the real picture of the Sig Sauer that Robert De Niro used like on screen used. That Will be huge thing for me. Thanks, Banukis.

==Thanks for the hello!==
Yes, I've been pretty busy. Some good. some bad. It's good to see some of the old timers (aka Mods hahaha) on the site. Sometimes I pop in from time to time, usually just to see what is up and it's kinda strange seeing all these new members whom I don't know. I tend to get nervous when I see tons of newbies making tons of changes, but I suppose we have a pretty good supply of not only Mods but Veteran members who try to police all that stuff. :) I just need to get motivated (and have the time) to set up the lighting and haul all those weapons out of armory to photograph them. Thanks, I like the new IMFDB logo on the lower right hand side. I know nothing stops piracy, but at least it takes effort to remove the watermark. :) good to hear from you :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:32, 28 April 2011 (CDT)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Yes I'm trying to put them on my user page, what do you mean by "downsized". --[[User:Zombie Killer 1995|Zombie Killer 1995]] 14:20, 7 May 2011 (CDT)

O, Now I get it instead of uploading them from my computer get them from this site it's self now I get I wish some one had told me this earlier in a simpler form. Thank you.

So I make the picture size 350 or over not 300 or under.

==re:Nazifishwife==
Yeah he caught my eye a week or so ago and I was thinking banning him then. Evil Tim made a post on the forum showing what he's been up too. Glad to see another mod also thought of banning him too.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:43, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

==cbeattie==

what do you mean i am right. :( ([[User:Cbeattie|Cbeattie]] 14:23, 8 September 2011 (CDT))

== IP Bans ==

There is an extension I can install to match all the usernames to IPs and we can then see if the IPs he is using are all on a common subnet. If they are we can just ban the entire subnet. I'll work on this before the weekend. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:34, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

== no you really dont know ==

well im not liam or moviemaster so please stop calling me that. Thank you
--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 21:15, 8 September 2011 (CDT)----

I have no idea what you are talking about
--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 21:15, 8 September 2011 (CDT)----

I guess we will just have to see--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 21:15, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

And also I would like access to the blogs seeing as I should have the right to defend myself, from being called a messed up individual or whatever you people wanna call me.--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 21:18, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Well like I stated above I'm not this liam person you guys speak of. And second I'm some sort of messed up individual. So I would appreciate it if you guys would stop saying those things.--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 21:35, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

The stuff that was said was very rude. I didn't personally attack any of you. Or call any of you names.
:Sorry I replied late, Alienqueen. I just wanted to say that you should at least take it easy on him. It's best to wait until he does something wrong. His comments weren't that aggressive when he responded to your comment compared to the other "sockpuppet" accounts of Liam. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:47, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
EDIT: This comment was posted before I noticed that you welcomed JD0556 to Imfdb. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:49, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Ok understood, sorry about that.--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 21:55, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
:Oh, I understand now. Apologies for the above comments. I originally thought aggressively until now. :) - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:59, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Apologies for the vandalism of this site. But I still think that [[moviepropmaster2008]] is a very rude person. Its not right the way that he talks, and disrespects some people.--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 22:06, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Wow your just toying with me and keeping me busy?--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 22:06, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
:My recently-removed comment was about how you talked to him. I removed it because I figured out that you are just doing your job in preventing vandalism and ranting about the admins being corrupt and harsh. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 22:36, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
Also, what is the status of the Transformers 3 images Liam uploaded? His Facebook gallery was gone when I checked a week ago, possibly because of copyright reasons, something else, or maybe Liam moved/concealed them into his Movie Weapon Wiki to possibly avoid copyright holders, considering that his wiki is not well-known. I am not sure whether the images are considered legal or not. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 22:55, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
:Yes, the ones that MoviePropMaster2008 hid in an old revision of the Transformers 3 page. I already talked to MPM2008 about this and expected a reply from him if he can. Maybe asking the admins before asking MPM? I have no other idea what to do as I am just an ordinary user. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 23:11, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
Those new BTS images are from Michael Bay's website. You can go ahead and see it for yourself. Anyway, thank you for your time and good night. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 23:28, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
::As of now, he has ceased activity on this website (for a while eventually) due to Ben41's comments about the consequences should he take part in vandalism or anything considered for an automatic ban. Also, MPM2008 replied to me and said that he will simply wait and keep the images hidden in the revision rather than doing anything that might possibly anger the studio. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 18:21, 9 September 2011 (CDT)

== Keeping watch ==

I'll be keeping an eye out. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:23, 9 September 2011 (CDT)
:Yes I will too. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 08:05, 9 September 2011 (CDT)

== Forum ==

Hello, do you think I could be allowed to join the forums. I triend signing up and I got an email saying I will need an admin to approve it. I have not got any emails or notifications since then. Thanks.--[[User:JD0556|JD0556]] 23:42, 10 September 2011 (CDT)

==Recent spammers==
Could you watch these users: [[User:Leisa729suarez]], [[User:Jenee749hartman]], [[User:Jake42Ryan]], [[User:David45Smith]], [[User:Johnny42Robinson]], and [[User:Cora379estes]]? They are inactive now, but they are using the same username format as the other spammers? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 10:10, 15 October 2011 (CDT)
:Jet to let you know. JD0556 is banned for criticizing IMFDB by posting a negative comment about our page format with a different account. Also, moviemaster1993 returned and once again, he brought up the same complaint about our "abusive" admins. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:05, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

== Weapon Naming Question ==

Hello.

I wanted to inquire about one standard that is absent from [[Rules, Standards and Principles]] page. The weapon naming. If the weapon was called incorrectly in the first place, is it allowable for users to change it to correct one, provided they provide serious sources (that is, not some unsourced Wikipedian stub)?

An example of such weapon is '''SVU''' (incorrectly called 'SVU Dragunov', as I was explaining on the [[Talk:SVD Dragunov|corresponding talk page]]. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 06:37, 12 November 2011 (CST)

== I need you or another admins help, my other account was blocked wrongfully. ==

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me with an issue I am having. Admin "Evil Tim" blocked me for no reason thinking I was some guy named "Burt", which I am not, my name is Danny. I tryed to contact him about it on my blocked account "Glock17gen4", but it wouldnt let me so I'm forced to use this account I made. I tryed to contact him and I have no received a reply, I think he is ignoring the msg or something. I was wondering if you could help and unblock my other account, thanks. [[User:SaferSephiroth|SaferSephiroth]] 16:24, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

== Infoboxes ==

Hey. So first off, a disclaimer, I am posting the following message for each of the Admins so don't think I'm spamming. Just want to get input from all of you. I have been working on a number of infoboxes for different pages ([[Template:Infobox Movie]], [[Template:Infobox TV]], [[Template:Infobox Video Game]]). I have already gotten some help from [[Bunni]] who installed an additional add-on to facilitate the templates. I would love to get some feedback from you (and other admins) regarding these. Do you like the format? Are there things you would like changed? Should additional information be added? The nice thing is that with the add-on that [[Bunni]] installed, you do not have to provide all the information for the infobox. Any variables left blank will simply not be printed.

Finally, I would like to see how you feel about my adding these to pages. I have gotten positive feedback from a number of users (including at least 3 admins) but before I add this to more than a dozen or so pages (which I have done for testing purposes) I want to really get full permission. I know that sweeping changes are a '''MAJOR''' no-no without full admin approval. Check out the thread in the forum (http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1942). I look forward to hearing your feedback! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:13, 9 May 2012 (CDT)

can you believe that bane gets blown up by Selena Kyle on the Batpod, mirander tate/taliah Al ghul gets killed in a truck crash after stabbing batman in the side. and batman carries the nuclear bomb to safety jumping out of the bat (plane) and emigrates to florence with selena kyle. :~OOOOOO i know right!!!!--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:09, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

User talk:Predator20

2012-07-21T02:08:54Z

Pistolpete: /* Bad Pages */

Python ... sorry Predator20 .... I am just learning how to use this site. would like to set up a page like yours ! beats Facebook !!! I do have a page (I thought) "Canecorso" .... any help would be awsome !
Thanks

== Everybody Hates Chris ==
Are there plans for this page? Just curious. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 10:34, 13 January 2012 (CST)

:According to the information I have in my file about the shooting (I'm a rangemaster with my department so I collect data) the agents were carrying the classic "F.B.I. Load" in their revolvers. The 158 grain +P semi-wadcutter hollow point. It's a good load. Dove and Grogan had the 115 grain Winchester Silvertip hollow-point in their S&W autos. I carry the Federal HST 124 grain +P hollowpoint in my [[Glock 19]]. But then much of what we now use in law enforcement is directly due to the Miami shooting and what was learned. The ramifications have gone far beyond just the creation of the .40 S&W.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 11:03, 13 January 2012 (CST)

::Actually I'm with you. The Airweights and Scandiums are nice to carry, but I don't like shooting them. The .357 magnum Scandiums are terrible to shoot. Which is why I own a Smith & Wesson Model 49. It isn't that heavy to carry, but that all steel frame is nice for recoil control. Well that and the Pachmayer Compac grips I have on it. I have to say that i have come to really like my Glock 19. I had no real experience with Glock before I was issued mine in 06. I have since come to really like the G19 and the 9mm Parabellum. I also own a G26 which I like as well. It's funny. When I was younger I was all about magnums and 45ACP. I sneered at the .38 Spl and 9mm. Now all my handguns are 9mm, 38 Spl and 22LR.
Well that's not entirely true. I own a couple .357 magnums and a Webley Mk VI, but I primarily shoot 38 Spl/9mm and 22LR. They're more affordable, comfortable to shoot and I shoot them very well. Good bullet placement beats missing with a magnum. Anyway I also carry a Remington 870 loaded with 00 buck and slugs when on patrol and several other officers on my patrol team carry AR-15 rifles. So I have artillery as well.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 20:01, 13 January 2012 (CST)

==RE: SIG cont.==

It looks pretty nice! I've always loved the "reverse" two-tone SIGs (like the one in ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]''). That being said, if it says "Made in West Germany", that means it was made before 1989. Are you OK buying such an old gun that you can't inspect up-close? I'm kinda paranoid about buying guns that I can't inspect first, but if you're OK with it, then go for it. It's definitely a good-looking piece, and I think no gun collection without a SIG is ever complete (though I have an obvious bias).

Also, CCR does a great job on finishes (my 226 had its slide re-finished by them). If they did any work on the gun, it's probably in good shape, but personally, I would rather try it before I buy it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

:The checkered style gives a better grip, but you can't use the newer trigger bar springs with them (only the old ones, which have a tendency to break after extended usage). My recommendation is that when you get the gun, ditch the "pebble" grips and put on a set of Hogues (provided your hand is big enough). That's what I've got on my 226 right now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

::Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but I like the two-tone one better. I think you made the right choice. And yeah, don't get the finger groove Hogues, those are too big. The regular Hogues are also pretty thick, but they do improve the grip. In my opinion, they're superior to the factory grips. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Blocked him. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

:I would need to see either the receivers or the sight to be sure. If they're real guns, they're most likely to be Norinco Type 56s. But if they're replicas, probably Hudson model gun AK-47s. Also, hope you enjoy the SIG; post pics when you get it! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

::Looked at 'em closely. They have milled receivers, so my guess is that they're the Hudson AK-47 replicas. When there's multiple types of a certain weapon in a scene, you're usually looking at replicas of some sort. Like, if there's a cache of M16s, there's usually going to be some MGC replicas. Same with the AKs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

::They are NOT Hudsons. I have Hudsons. I will post a pic of a Hudson soon. Those are .22 LR clones (not the new ones, but the old ones from the 1980s). Not Armscorp but I think some other company, perhaps Armi-Jager. The handguards are indicative of the strange .22LR clones of the AK from decades ago. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Corrected that problem. Also, hope you get the SIG soon. At least you live in a state that has sane handgun laws. NC's are just...well, retarded. Oh, and happy 4th! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Got 'em. In the future, though, can you also put the delete tag on them? I'm kinda busy this week (on the road a lot) and don't know how often I can be on the site. If you put the delete tag on, then at least another admin can get them if I'm not around.

:::Can't wait to see the SIG. Hope it serves you well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

::::Just put <nowiki>[[Category:Delete]]</nowiki> on the picture (hit "Edit" and type it in). You can still point me to it, but this way, if I'm not around, someone else might see it. This is the page listing all the stuff with the Delete tag: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Category:Delete -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

Sure, feel free to edit the photos. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pinko ==

Well the guy is definitely British, or some kind of influence in his language. I know they are the only countries that calls us Americans "Yanky", but the way he writes is definite up there and only UK uses the worse arse [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for heads up. I'll check my other uploads. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Hunter ==

I've actually been considering making it a featured article; should I do it by season or the show as a whole? I'd go by season but I don't know if that'd be wise since not many people have heard of it. Then again, it may be a nice way to introduce people to the show and show off some of the various firearms used. What would you recommend? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 15:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

==New anonymous member==
I checked ALL of the other edits and everything else seems okay. it seems like he's learning the system and how to edit on IMFDB. That one you caught is a pretty big screwup, but so far none of the other edits are vandalism. I will try to keep an eye on him, but he must just be another noob who is unsure how to do the pages correctly. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Thanks for that info. I'm suddenly not sure whether I should do anything, though. As far as I'm concerned, if the people who wanted me to take down the original image want to get angry at this other guy, that's his problem. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

==Admin==

Hey, Brian, I have a question: Do you want an Administrator position? I think you're actually overdue for the promotion, and we need good people like you on the Admin team. If you want, I can email Bunni to ask him to give you the new status. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

:Good idea! I also asked Ben41 if he wanted it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks for the vote of confidence ==
Thanks for putting in the good word. Guess we're going to have to learn something new. Should be fun. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== Admin rights ==

you has em. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 16:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

==BTW - a belated Congratulations on your promotion to Mod==
Now you will have to fight the trolls/idiots/fanboys even MORE! hahahahaha(evil laugh). Congratulations!!!! MPM

==Delete section==
I found a bunch of pages and screenshots not deleted by anyone here: [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Category:Delete]. Unfortunately, I rarely see admins go there. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 15:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

==Stan's wacko watch==

Hey man, remember me? Maybe not. Interesting how massive one's talk page gets when they become an Admin.. Congrats on that BTW. That said, I figure I'll let you know about this (if you don;t already), and I suppose you can pass it on to MT2008 and the others. Anyway, I think there's a problem with [[Special:Contributions/76.121.27.16|76.121.27.16]] - He's been warned several times before to stop uploading/posting redundant gun images on pages (I just remembered MT was one of the ones who's warned him), yet he's kept on doing it. He's done a handful just earlier today that I've reverted back. I hate tattling on another guy but I have have a feeling I'm not the only one he's annoyed with this crap. The guy does seem to add to the site and all, but I just don't like him continuing to do this stuff, it's kind of irritating. So, well, there ya go. Again, I just remembered MT told about this a few months back, but it seems he didn't care to listen, so, I don't know. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

: Ah, good. Thanks, man. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

:: I found a vandal [[Special:Contributions/75.31.96.25|75.31.96.25]] - He just made one comment, but it's a rather tasteless one and should probably be hit on the head with the banhammer anyway. Another good anonymous guy edited it out already, but, thought I'd let you know. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

:::- Another one [[Special:Contributions/71.91.170.82|71.91.170.82]] - he's removed content from pages, which I've reversed. I warned him on his talk page but you should probably keep an eye on him. Or just ban him, your choice I guess. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

::- Got another dude who's apparently flipped his shit lately. However, the dude's made shitty comments elsewhere and I've also had to revert sections he's deleted before, too. - [[Special:Contributions/173.62.63.157|173.62.63.157]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 04:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Already terminated [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
::- Ah. Well, I guess it's nevermind then, Pred. Maybe you'll get the pleasure of the next one, heh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

: - I know you got this one already (74.63.112.138), but damn if this comment didn't give me a chuckle (''can i request i be a mod? cause you know im awesome so yea. just tell me when thats done k? k...peace bro'') Bah. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

::- Yeah, you have a real fun job, now! ;D [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

== Stevens 520/620 Shotgun ==

The Stevens 520/620 is a John Browning design. The 520 went on the market in 1904 and was discontinued in 1932. The 620 was a more streamlined version. The abrupt angle at the rear of the reciever on the Model 520 was eliminated with the 620.Other than that the 520/620 are mechanically identical. The 520/620 was manufactured in 12, 16 and 20 gauge. The 620 was discontinued in 1955. Both models were avilable in riot configuration and sport/field configuration. I saw you post on Nyles discussion page. Also I think a 520/620 page is a great idea. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Stevens 520 ==

As I understand it (and I'm a little fuzzy on the details myself as there's not all that much info available), the 520 was the original model with the stepped receiver, and the 520-30 was the later model with the flat receiver (pictured). Very cool shotguns, actually - they were designed by John Moses Browning and were actually the first side-ejecting hammerless guns on the market. They were made 1904-1932 and then another production run in the 40s for the US Army in trench gun configuration. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

==Russian Spammer==
Hahaha. Good job on the ban hammer! You seemed unsure whether or not that Spammer you blocked was really a spammer. I speak Russian and can read it only so so. But that entire blurb was a nonsensical paragraph about how to buy cars. It was definitely SPAM. Funny since our Russian user Kloga has argued that he has 'never seen any Cyrillic Spam on IMFDB' LOL! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Front Page ==

I added [[Stargate SG-1]] yesterday and was wondering: What articles qualify for the random featuring? Obviously games are out of the question. And they have to have a certain standard. But: Is a certain length (amount of firearms), or completion of details like cross linking (actor pages etc.) necessary, too? I did not find anything about this in the rules. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 08:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

: Thanks for the info. I´d go with
: [[Image:KingdomHK912.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Fleury takes aim at the terrorists Mercedes.]]
: and [[Image:Sombra13.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A Saudi police officer with his SIG SG 552.]]
: Also: There seems to be something odd going on with the featured article frame. From time to time the place appears blank. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Blank feature article ==
If I remember correctly, it´s on the FeaturedArticle and the Main page. The thing is that the frame is ''empty''. So I can not tell whether it is a specific movie or just a single line of coding that is messing it up.

btw.: Can only admins redirect pages or change the title of one? Driven To Kill should - according to IMDB - be Driven to Kill. No capital T. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
Okay. thanks for the head up. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== TOC format ==

What works for me is putting "Film Title" first, putting the poster info right underneath, and then the TOC br clear=all. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 20:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Combining Grindhouse ==
Since the two films were released overseas and on video as separate films, I think it would be best to keep them as separate pages and put a link to the Grindhouse page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 21:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
: They're already on the page. I done that as one of my first deeds here. :) --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:47, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:: And how many pictures of Hobo should be scrapped? :( --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::: About Hobo - OK, i'll delete something. :) --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::::: Wait, wait, wait! 6 pictures of ALL the trailer is the maximum, or you mean just the Hobo's Shotgun pictures? If the first variety - it's terrible. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 22:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Done. Even 5, not six. :) By the way, I'll found that video of Werewolf Women of the SS is officail - it from Rob Zombie's channel. Can i restore the pictures from this trailer. I was trying to write about it to [[User:Ben41|Ben41]], but he's ignoring me. :( --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 22:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

==Beretta 92FS==
It was you who identified it in [[Grindhouse]]? Just wanted to know how did you do that (if it's you, of course). :) --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 13:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
: Thanks for your answer. It's exciting to know such details. I do know, that many guns have their own features, but sometimes it's hard to tell what is that features and it's hard to know all, like that one with the exposed barrell in 92FS.
Also wanted to ask - is it a kind of ethics or something for this site to credit, who recognised the gun (if it's not the permanent writer of an article), like in the Miami Vixe series first season article? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:21, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

==Re:Total Recall/Goncz==

(From above section) Have you checked out the deal with the [[Total Recall]] page? I posted a bit extra myself in the [[Talk:Total Recall|Talk]] page, but, oh man, I really hope it ain't that serious.

: I agree, I feel we have an obligation to note the Claridge info as a resource for background on the gun itself. But, I guess that may not remain so. Well, lets just say it got be a bit perturbed. I remember what one banned member (movieman1993 or something) said that 'we wouldn't get legal problems you fools!' or something to that effect. Bah, wish he was here just so we could prove him wrong. Oh well, I guess we'll see what MPM and Bunni do. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I think it's odd and we really don't know if the poster is really Goncz. But I' sure we'll get it worked out. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Actor Page==

Well, I had to take off almost right after I set up the page. But, I probably would have forgotten to search so I appreciate the help, and I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks, man. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

==Lame page makers==
How much you wanna bet that all these noob IMFDB members who make pages for kids movies, either Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network, are all around the age of a 7th grader? I recently deleted a project which wasn't even a movie, it was a video taken by a 7th grade class as part of a school project. I was stunned that the page maker took the project as being one of serious merit (and their spelling and grammar sucked) so I assumed the originator was a kid. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Boxcar Bertha ==

I'm fairly certain it's a [[Remington Model 10]]. Look at the reciever and the end of the barrel. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:Remington Model 10.jpg|thumbnone|300px|]]

Okay it's done.Now I need to make a page for the Model 10. For some reason I thought there was already one.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh and now there is a [[Remington Model 10]] page. Great.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== CC Revolvers ==
Snagging can be overcome with practice, but why when there are so many great hammerless and concealed hammer models now days. If you plan on shooting your concealment piece frequently I would suggest one of the S&W J frames. Personally I like the 649 or 49 and there are still many lightly used S&W J frames out there that will cost you a anywhere from a couple hundred to several hundred dollars less than a new one. The 38/638 is a good gun, but the alloy frame isn't as sturdy as the all steel if you're looking at a lot of shooting. Also if you can find one of the Ruger SP101 with the 2.25" barrel with the DA hammer you have a good little revolver there. However alot of folks prefer the trigger action on the S&W revolver. I prefer Smith & Wesson, but I appreciate Ruger and aknowledge that the company makes a very solid and strong revolver.Just remember that the Ruger is heavier, but will also withstand alot of heavy usage. Look at your requirements.

Now be careful with Colts. Like I said in that other posting the old Colt revolver action (Pre-Mk III/IV/V/King Cobra/Anaconda) is tricky and there aren't that many gunsmiths left anymore who know how to work on the action. I would recommend a Colt for collecting, but a Smith or Ruger for real world. Be careful of Taurus. The company has come a long way, but I still have doubts about the quality control. And that's not good for a revolver being used for the real world. Life or death in other words. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about adding this to your main page. I was working on it and I was also talking to my kids and dealing with the family pets (no not the kids). Guess I got distracted. Anyway glad to help. Also in all fairness to Taurus I am thinking of buying a Judge just as a "neat" revolver. Oh and that reminds me of something else. Somebody asked me about Charter Arms a few days ago. I would put that company in the same category as Taurus. It's come a long ways, but I'm still not sure about the consistency of it's Quality Control.Anyway talk to you later.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I think the mid size snubbies are great revolvers.I own a Colt Mk III Lawman with a 2" barrel. It'a a real Bulldog. They also look cool as hell. But they aren't really designed to be concealed. I know there are people who make them work, but I think they're more belt or shoulder holster revolvers. I suppose if you wear a sports coat all the time it would work, but that's not me. My dad carried a Model 19 snubbie for a few years back in the 70's and he described it as heavy after a few hours and dense. He said that he was always worried about it printing. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help. The 642 is a good revolver. You might want to get Snap Caps so you can practice your dry firing without worrying about breaking your firing pin.I like them even with frame mounted firing pin designs like Ruger. Also you can practice loading. I use tem in all my firearms. Handguns, rifles and shotguns. I tell all our new officers to do dry-firing at least a couple times a week. It's helped me over the years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

==Pred's revolvers==
Congrats on your CCP, Pred, and sounds like a good choice going with the 442(?) Smith. Sounds good man, hope you enjoy it. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:: An added feature! Well, not really. But hey, if it works. Sounds like you didn't pay too many pretty pennies for it at least. Speaking of Smiths, tell me, what's your experience with that 'bling-bling' 586 you got? Have you fired it recently? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:00, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:- Cool, glad to know a bit. It is a full-size revolver so I'd expect it to have some weight, especially since it's bigger than K-frame. Anyway, thanks for the bit of knowledge, man. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

==banning user 125.233.23.5 ==
His nowiki command was not necessarily vandalism. I've seen that mistake with noobs who know nothing of Wiki command structures. I wouldn't do a permanent ban, unless he has done something else wrong. mpm

==Temporarily ban him again==
But clearly tell why you are banning again. If he does it a fourth time, then permanently ban him. We can't have guys doing obviously stupid things and ignoring the mods. It MAY make IMFDB more 'nazi like' like some disaffected ex-members have accused us of, but seriously, the mods (and quality good members) waste so much time correcting inane and just dumb changes made by noobs. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:17, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:: Bah, why do people even do that? It should be obvious what the end result will be. Well I don't know. People who act like that have always just irked the living hell out of me. I mean.. that's just irritating. And I'm not one of the poor souls.. err wonderful guys who handle those things. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

==RE: uploading images==
I only edit it again so it appears in the screenshot category. Does it still appear in the category if you put the category part in the summary section? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 00:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

==I think I will have to withdraw the Stevens 67==
I just checked the fine print on the side of the gun. It's a Savage/Springfield Model 67, not a Savage/Stevens Model 67. I 'think' the Model 67 is virtually identical save for a few differences (the ribs in the forearm is a wee bit wider). What do you think? Keep it or trash it? The problem is that Stevens also has a Model 77 which looks the same. Arghhh. These gun manufacturers and their third party branding of the same damned gun just drives me nuts! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

==Wacko watch part deux==

[[Special:Contributions/1morey|1morey]] -
I'm afraid the guy's uploaded a shitload of redundant and jacked images (one of them has the copyright posted on the image itself), and his [[Call of juarez]] page is.. well, look for yourself. I try to not be that judgmental but, sheesh.. :( I'd fix the page but I don't wanna encroach on admin-type stuff. Besides it's a clear showing of how NOT to do a page.. ahem sorry. I just can't stand pages done that horribly. Saddest thing is that it seems the game pages are the ones most like that.. bah. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

:- That's cool. I know he's a new guy so I tried to keep that in mind, still that wasn't too pleasant to see. The page looks much better now so thanks on that. I'm gonna add the proper gun images and links, and do a bit of formatting. I'd like to get your ok to move the non-firearm weapons (Bible, Tomahawk, etc) to the talk page. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:: [[Special:Contributions/95.116.165.233|95.116.165.233]] All for you, unless someone else gets him, of course. And remember - PENIS! :P [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== School Rumble ==

has anyone added a page on school Rumble, i was adding a page about Sora no woto, i forgot that it's already on here. so just before i try. is there anything about that anime on this website

== School Rumble ==

has anyone added a page on school Rumble, i was adding a page about Sora no woto, i forgot that it's already on here. so just before i try. is there anything about that anime on this website

== school rumble ==

i have tried its japanese name Sukūru Ramburu still noting has come up, so im wandering if i could make a page

im new to editing these pages its just the pics i have trouble with

my page is still unfinished, when you look at it you can see what the problem is, sorry im still new to making pages like this. just need to know how to get those images right with the text

== school rumble ==

its just the cover of the anime that im stuck with now, sorry i must be bothering you now

i guess its fine.
Thanks for the help :)
im still stumped on what gun Oji kurasuma has i dunno what it is. but i guess someone who does know will change it.

my dad took my laptop off me yesterday so, sorry if i was unresponsive. i was going to make the changes. but thanks anyway, you've been a real help :)

==RE: gun discussions==

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner...I have no problem with allowing some discussions of guns, as long as they don't deviate too much from the scope of the site. I mostly just hate people using the talk pages for the kind of discussions we saw on the Beretta 92 page, because I think that kind of stuff makes us look bad. Also, some of those topics on the 1911 page look to me like they were started by an anonymous user who seems to be a bit of a poser (I remember he started a topic on the M16 page where he said he liked M16A1s better than A2s because you can "spray" with an M16A1, LOL). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

==Photos==
Thanks for watching my back. Actually it's pretty easy to revert those pics, but I'll start protecting them, but there are almost 700 custom pics I've uploaded ;) yeow. We can do them when we get to them. What is this guy thinking? A high resolution shot of a gun that's already IN motion picture armorer inventory? That makes it a little more site relevant than some snapshot of some dude's private property gun in his back yard. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Raw Deal==
Well, I usually put 'screen used' on the caption if it is indeed a screen used gun. That's a build up. As you can see, the choke is slightly different. That was taken from a Browning Field shotgun and 'crammed' onto the Mossberg LOL! Also the original movie Mossberg was a different finish than mine. And also the original gun was lost or destroyed sometime in 1990 on another movie set so it is no longer (from what an armorer friend told me) but that was yet another off hand comment, second hand, so I can't verify it. Either way, that gun was just like the Hollowpoint Type 84S or the Dawn of the Dead Remington 870. Built up by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] for imfdb using the parts (which I have) :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Mac-uzi?==
Are you kidding? For one, that gun is hella gay. Two, those parts were made back in the 1970s from scratch when armorers had trouble getting Uzis (the early 70s the Uzi was hot, Presidential security, the Raid on Entebbe, the gun was all in the news). Why would I have 35 year old fake gun parts that aren't even correct and were custom made in a metal fabrication shop to fit a MAC-10? :D So I guess the answer is HELL NO. No gay fake franken guns here! LOL!!!!!! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== J.C. Higgins Model 20 ==
I added alittle more about the history of the shotgun. Manufactured by High Standard under contract for Sears etc. Basically it's a no-frills version of the [[High Standard Flite King Shotgun Series]]. But it is a seperate model and should have it's own page. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

:This is a memory I've brought up before, but I remember going into a K-Mart probably thirty-five years ago with my dad and walking out (dad & I) with a Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .357 magnum. What's amazing is here in my town there is a drugstore (yes an old fashioned drugstore with an honest to go lunch counter) that sells both handguns and long-guns as well as ammo, fishing equipment and so on. A few years ago I purchased a Ruger Blackhawk from them just to help support a local business. Going into that store is like walking through a time-warp. There are still a few left I guess. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect ==
Okay. thanks. I'll do that. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Definitely a spammer. Nuked. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:25, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

== Armstrong images ==
Hello and sorry for the no neccessary images, you can delete them. I will respect next time. --[[User:Comateman|comateman]] 22:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Auction==

Yeah, I remember that auction. Obviously, the info in the PDF is not going to be 100% (as evidenced by the example you cited). Inaccuracies are likely to be a result of the fact that whoever wrote that document wasn't knowledgeable about firearms. But it could still help us. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:17, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

:It's definitely possible the barrels were swapped out for a later movie, though I can't imagine which one. Also, as far as the Glock in ''[[Eraser]]'' being a G21, it's possible, but it's also a bit strange to me because the opening credits scene shows a Glock 17 being loaded (the mags aren't long enough to be G21 mags). Though of course, the opening credits gun wasn't necessarily the gun used by Arnie in the rest of the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:11, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Thanks for deleting the friends page but I have redone the page thanks any way

== Zombie killer 1995 ==
Ok thanks I'll remember that

== zombie killer 1995 ==
sorry sorry I'm new to this thing my bad if I reset the picture size to say 450px would that be ok?

== RE: The Way of The Gun ==

Comin' right up! :) And thanks. I was a bit hesitant at first about uploading my screencaps... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Ah ok, and once again: thanks! And yes, this is gonna look awesome as a Featured Article... ;) I'll just finish it up and maybe add a couple of them situational shots. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:12, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

==RE: M1911A1 disclaimer==

Sure, I think that would a good disclaimer to add. I also wonder if we should add the info about how most firing 1911s in movies are 9mm derivatives (like the Mark IV Series 70 or Star Model B). But this has been a big problem. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

:''The Mark IV Series 70 in 9mm while it was available they aren't all that common, I very rarely see them come up for sale. (maybe the armories bought them all).''

:You'd have to ask one of our armorers about this, but I would guess that could very well be true! Also, because movie guns always get sent out on lots of shows, it's possible for them to be disproportionately represented in Hollywood compared to real life (I've seen too many movies and TV shows that have had bad guys using the SIG P220 and P226 Sport models, which are pretty rare and hard to find.)

:And yes, it's possible to re-chamber a .45-caliber 1911 to fire 9mm blanks. It's also not uncommon for gunsmiths to re-chamber weapons to fire more commonly available cartridges (i.e. re-chambering Japanese Arisaka rifles to shoot .30-.06 blanks). I have no idea how common this is with 1911s, though. The impression I've usually been under is that .45 ACP 1911s were used mostly for non-firing, the 9mm Star Model B or Mark IV Series 70 were used in firing. I dunno when gunsmiths in the industry started figuring out how to make 1911s function more reliably with .45 ACP blanks, but I'm guessing it wasn't until some time in the 1980s or 1990s, which would explain why 9mm pistols were still more common than other calibers up until recently. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

:::In early gangster films you see Colt 1911's that were not converted to blanks but were still live fire weapons. The 1911's and 1911a1 are a delayed blow back weapon and were more difficult to convert than the straight blow back pistol like the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless. Also the .45 ACP blanks were made from a cut down .30-06 cartridge and were mainly used in the Colt Thompson Submachine Guns but the 1911 had some issues due to the hard rifle primers. So you will see most 1911 and 1911A1's used in film prior to 1950 firing one shot since they were not converted to blanks or a mock up 1911 that has a small revolver inside an aluminum shroud to stand in for a 1911 when firing multiple rounds. About 1950 the Star Model B was brought in to the US for sale and several studios and armories purchased these since 9mm blanks worked and a conversion on a delayed blow back weapon was developed. From 1950 through the mid 80's the Star Model B, Colt 9mm and Colt .38 Supers with a 9mm barrel were used. About 1985 a new .45 blank cartridge was developed that used a large pistol primer allowing the armories to activate there 1911's to fire reliably. The Stembridge had both Colt 1911 and GI 1911A1 in there inventory also had Colt 9mm Series 70. They did try to convert 45's to 9mm but had problems due to the larger breach face in the 45 slide compared to the 9mm slide. The rentals of 9mm 1911 pistol have slowed down when the .45 came on line but they still go out on shows when a Propmaster wants to limit the amount of different blanks on set. Hope this helps some it will be hard to decipher pistol types unless you study the photos closely. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 23:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The machine pistol used on [[Public Enemies]] was originally a 38 Super converted to 9mm. It's a funny thing with those machine pistols that the original ones built for Dillinger in the 30's were 38 super. I have seen Barstow barrels in 9mm plugged and modified for blanks in Stembridge parts bin so that gives some credence to converting 38 Supers to 9mm blank. Also Stembridge had great connections at Colt and they would build custom pistol in 9mm for Stembridge. The pistols used in Cobra were 38 Super National Match made in 9mm by Colt for Stembridge.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 04:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

:That photo from [[Cobra]] is nice as it shows the ejection port. Colt made that pistol in 45 ACP and 38 Super only but they did build it special order in 9mm for Stembridge according to Syd Stembridge. The firearms companies do a lot of special builds if the time allows for it. Ellis Mercantile had new S&W Highway Patrolman revolvers built by Smith & Wesson for [[A Perfect World]]. They sent S&W an original from inventory and then S&W built them almost exactly like the sample. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 17:14, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

::This is really great information! Thanks so much, Steve! Hey Predator, should we add this summary (or something like it) to the page? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

::Sounds good! Only thing is, don't use any personal pronouns ("you"). I gotta run, but I'll discuss further in a bit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

:I had a 38 Super National Match with Elison rear sight in 1981 that came back from Mexico. The pistol came from a batch of guns imported by Odin International. As for the [[Cobra]] pistols Colt built them special in 9mm for Stembridge. That would be easy for Colt to do as the just run a couple of unfinished National Match slides though the 9mm machine operations for the firing pin hole, Extractor Hole, Ejector Slot and Breach Face. It is a lot easier for the manufacturer to do those for us than trying to do it in house. We also have Glocks that are marked Glock 23 but are in 9mm blank again it another special build by Glock for one of the armories. You are correct on Clint's revolver in [[A Perfect World]] as a Model 19. But they ordered the Model 28's for the show I am not sure who used them in the show just knew they were ordered and they went out on the show.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 17:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

:: On the Glock 23 in 9mm some scripts call specifically for the Glock 23 since that is what the FBI use at this time. But to make things easier for the armorer or propmaster we had them made in 9mm instead of 40 cal. There are 40 cal Glocks in other armories as I have used them on some films but it would have been easier if it was 9mm as we had other 9mm pistols on the show. No problem on using what I told you about 45 blanks and I can get more info to fill it out for you. I will be talking to the guys about a new category for IMFDB on studios and armories of the past that should include a page on motion picture blanks. It depends on what the conversion was on the revolver. I have seen several from back in the early days with the cylinder bored or shaved for 5 in 1 blanks. Also we have some revolvers the have the barrels plugged and ported in different directions for close up use. It's very rare now a days for a revolver to be modified due to caliber as we have access to almost all calibers of brass. But we do still modify the barrels for the close in shots but usually on a spare barrel. The industry looks at it's guns as just props to assist in make a film so we due think that would make collectors cry like the 1st gen Colt Single Action with the bent barrel in the movie [[Unforgiven]]. The gunsmith was told to use one of the single actions on the rack so he did what was told. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 17:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi could you tell me how to delete pages thanks.

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Ok thanks the the info.

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi just one question is it possible to put a block on a page so that only the creator of that page can edit it. or some way to that people can only edit with creators permission?.

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi, I looked on one of my pages I created [[Doghouse]] also with [[Phoenix Nights]] and it says that the page is incomplete but it is there is only one gun used in it so should I just get rid of the ?.

== J.C. Higgins Shotguns ==

How about we rename the page "J.C. Higgins Shotgun Series"? I think that would work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:05, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Sure thing. That would simplify things. I finally discovered the identity of the Model 21 because I bought the 1965 edition of ''Gun Digest'' at a used bookstore today. Mainly because I thought it might help with identifying older more obscure firearms (which it did) plus I like reading old gun articles from the past forty-seventy years. You'd be suprised how much info they have in them - even in 2010. Plus the old writers weren't so focused on everything being high tech and uber tactical. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:10, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:::The 65 edition I picked up has several interesting articles. One is about the brand new 41 magnum. Another is about the endof the M14 and looks at the possible replacements to include the AR-15 and finally an article about the changes introduced by Winchester to the Model 70. The crazy thing is the writer approved of the changes! Boy if he been able to see into the future and the big stink that people would make about Pre-64 vs. Post 64 Model 70's. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi just needed to ask recently I have seen annoying advertisements on the right and left side of this website trying to sell things is it possible for them to be disabled.
Thank you for listening to me hope to hear from you soon.

== RE: From Dusk Till Dawn ==

This is becoming a habit ;) How do you like the new shots? I'm gonna update the whole page with some better caps of all the shotguns too... And damn, couldn't have imagined that Tarantino's 1911 was a china-copy. I could have sworn it was a Springfield. Oh, well... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:08, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Ok, thanks. Hmm, funny coincidence with Tarantino and the 1911. One can't help but wonder if it's a conscious choice... Anyways, back here in Finland, it's like UK or New York for us "gun-nuts". Not a lot of people do ,for example, gun-related sports (well, other than hunting I guess) in here, especially young people. It's a tough nut getting a firearm. And if you are into guns/or have a gun (other than basic hunting rifles/shotguns) people thinks you're nuts :D (I had a point here somewhere, I think...) Anyways, when there's not a lot of people into guns, there ain't a lot of guns either. So if you wanna have a 1911 -type pistol, Norinco is the most easily acquirable, and more importantly, cheap. And I've heard a lot of people bad-mouthing the piece. As for myself, I don't like to judge anything if I haven't tried it myself. (<-applies for guns, not people :P) --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, we don't got a lot to choose from. I mean when you walk into a gun store in Finland... hmm, I don't think we even have other than a few gun shops in the whole country! Well, when you walk into a gun shop, or a hunting store, you got dozens of shotguns (O/U, pump-action, you name it), hunting rifles (Lot's of Finnish Sakos and Tikkas, then lots of others), and your .22s. I mean every place you go you have dozens of .22s, some basic every-guy-knows-them-guns (92FS, P226, etc.), and only a few others. I mean of course they can get them, but they're more... "special". If you ask for e.g. a Springfield 1911 TRP, they're gonna have to import it from somewhere. I've heard some people get the Norinco, and use it as a basis for something they wanna build. In here Norinco's are about 400€, give or take. Less if they're used. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 01:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== P226 pic ==

Thanks for pointing that out about the pic. I've notified the user. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 13:41, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

== RE: PNGs ==
Shit I forgot. Been away too long. Thanks for the reminder. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

==RE:==

Huh? That's odd...it looks centered to me. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

:I'm a little confused. Here's what the alphabet list at the top looks like for me:

:[[Image:Alpha-centered.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Is that what you're referring to? Also, I haven't emailed/Gchated Chris yet, should I? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

::Yeah, I usually see the ads, but sometimes, they don't load properly and then I don't. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

:::Done, good suggestion. Ads are gone, although the menu is still on the left. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Hi, delete request ==

Hi.I heard you were an admin. I did a little upgradin' on the [[Ninja Assassin]] page. I upgraded some pictures, and I took out some of the crappier ones. Could you possibly delete these, please?--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 19:48, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

[[Media:NA-MP002M-3.jpg]]

[[Media:NA-G36opticsight.jpg]]

::::Okay, gotcha. Thanks. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 20:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==RE: AK==

First of all, I just viewed the auction, and it says someone bought it. Are you that someone? If not, this discussion is (sadly) moot.

Second, yes, $1K for a PT Legend is a really good deal. I paid about $950 for mine (in 2004), but mine is a stamped receiver, not milled. Milled receiver AKs are always more expensive. However, I'm personally a lot more partial to stamped; they're lighter and feel a lot less...antique, I guess.

As far as other brands: Norincos are pretty good, but their fit and finish isn't as good as PTs. In the 1980s, they were considered the bargain-price "no frills" AKs (they often sold for $300, which is crazy considering what they cost today). They're also built to almost the same specs as the PLA-issue Type 56 rifles, so if you want something identical to what Hamas militants or Iranian Revolutionary Guards carry, the Norincos are cheaper and closer to mil-spec.

Hungarians are my second-favorite after the PTs. I've handled an SA85M and it was quite possibly the most beautiful AK I've ever seen. Unfortunately, the FFL wanted $2,500 for it, and from what I've seen, it's hard to find one for under $2K because only about 7,000 were imported to this country before Bush, Sr. banned them in 1989. Right now, there are some manufacturers who are building SA85Ms by taking Hungarian parts kits and putting them on American-made receivers; I haven't seen one firsthand, but I would be suspicious of anything made in this country. American companies are never going to be as good at making AKs as their counterparts in Eastern Europe or East Asia, IMO.

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:13, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

:Sorry, I phrased that poorly. My gun isn't a Legend (Legends are milled receivers only). Mine says "AK47S" on the side of the receiver, and it was imported by Golden State Arms, which was one of Poly Tech's front companies in California. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

==Re: I'm Gonna Git You Sucka==

This time I mentioned that it's a Type 56-1 with an AKM-style muzzle break. Hopefully, that'll clear things up. Also, at some point, I gotta talk to Ben about his IDs - he gets stuff wrong all the time (usually minor things, though, like specific Glock variants/generations). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Archer page ==

I agree that the weapons are drawn well enough to be identified. I wouldn't have any trouble with it, but it may be better to run it by the other mods and then probably a disclaimer should be put at the top of its page to explain why this page is okay. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:28, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Stargate SG-1 ==

I just started with Season 10, so I am not really done with the page yet. In the meantime you could put splitting the page up for vote. See if people think it's a good idea or not. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:31, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

: I was wondering who will split the page up. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

:: I am already putting the Seasons into separate .txt files (anything else and the formatting goes haywire). I have 1 through 6 done. Until I am done with that I will keep on adding screenshots to the SG-1 talkpage. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

:: Done. I apologize for not warning anyone beforehand. The pages probably need a lot of fixing. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:48, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

== Splitting Up by Season ==

It would be nice to split those shows by season, but I've found that both those shows as well as NCIS are pretty much the same each season so there would be a lot of overlap of weapons used. [[24]] was different because each season was pretty much a different story. [[Miami Vice]] had a lot of different weapons each season. Splitting Burn Notice and The Unit would mean having to go back and examine each episode of each season to reexamine which weapons went with each season. In other words, I would vote not to split. (Stargate's another matter). --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

== Black Hawk Down pics ==

Just wondering why you wrote over my pics for Black Hawk. Mine are from the Blu-ray. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll be more careful next time. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

==Deleting files==
How do I delete a file if I upload the wrong one?
Not trying to be a pain but I'm still new to your site.
Thanks- Peejn8r

== Zombie killer 1995 ==
Hi I was wondering if you could confirm for me what the name of the pistol is.
Is it a M1911A1 or a Beretta 9000?
[[Image:l copy.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]
[[Image:l copy2.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Do you know the name of the pistols is it a Colt Officer's ACP but in black and i dont no why i coverd their faces
thanks for the help I thinks its a Colt Officer's ACP

==images==
Sorry I haven't responded sooner. BTW, you're doing an EXCELLENT job as mod. I see you kicking ass and taking names when it comes to banning spammers and keeping error prone 'drive by anonymous members' in check. I'm taking a break from photos for iMFDB. the problem is that members LOVE the pics, but too many members feel that I'm being some sort of jerk in trying to protect the images from piracy by other websites. IP (intellectual property) seems to be a foreign concept to most of the membership on IMFDB. We're legal on the screencaps, I know that much. But I put a ton of work into gun images and recently some of the arguements (on and OFF the forums/discussion pages) have left a bad taste in my mouth. So officially I'm on strike for now. No more pics. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia template ==

I wanted to see how it would look on the main page first and just waiting for an okay from some of the other mods before putting it up for a longer trial period. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

== RE: Killshot 1911s ==

Holy crap, I think you're right! When I saw the film the first time, I spotted the gun as a Series 80, peace of cake. I didn't care to think anymore, since I had already recognized it. I couldn't have even thought it to be not only 2, but maybe 3 different guns.
The second screencap looks like an M1911A1, as you already noticed. The third might as well be a Norinco, I mean they even used plastic shotguns for some scenes. I'll have to watch the film again to see if it changes even more. Thanks for spotting that, I appreciate it :) And thanks for the compliments --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== Re: Killshot ==

Now that you mentioned, the Smith looks like a possible alternative. Btw, the film was full of continuity errors and such. A real nightmare. It didn't help production that they had to cut and re-shoot the movie several times.

But about the shotgun, I'ma wing it and say that it is a Winchester Model 1300, even though I don't know if they make it with a full synthetic stock with a regular mag tube. But the foregrip reminds me of the 1300 Defender...
[[Image:WinchesterModel1300Def.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:KS870_4.jpg|none|thumb|600px|]]
--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 19:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

== P I Staker ==

OH...I get it. Piss Taker...Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

==RE:==

I think you're correct, good catch! Still wish we could ID the other shotgun, though (the one with the long tube).

Also, as far as the Type 56 section goes: I think it's fine to add a note that they were originally made with milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 08:06, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

:Yeah, I think it's a Hatsan. Also, I don't know if the tube is unsupported; I think it's just that the connector blends with the suit of the agent in the background. Also, I'm pretty sure that same shotgun appears later in the movie, and it definitely doesn't have an unsupported tube. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 08:23, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

== Recreated ==

Hi. I have recreated a page for a game which was once deleted (don't know the reason...). Could you please take a look at this page: [[Condemned: Criminal Origins]]. [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 09:00, 19 March 2011 (CDT)

== Bruni 92 ==

== Bruni 92 ==

Hi there, since you're the registered user for the Beretta 92 page, could you please add the below table for the Bruni 92? I coded already for you so it's probably a matter of cut-and-paste.

===Films===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Razor Blade Smile]]|| [[Eileen Daly]] || Lilith Silver || || 1998
|-
| [[Razor Blade Smile]]|| [[Christopher Adamson]] || Sir Sethane Blake || || 1998

|-
|}

Also, I found a good quality image of the Bruni 92 ([[Media:Bruni_92.jpg]]) that you may want to include, currently there's none.--[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 10:32, 26 March 2011 (CDT)

==RE:==

Thanks for trying. I literally just took the image again (played the movie) and re-uploaded, and still no go. I think the file itself is just going to need to be deleted. I have no idea what could possibly be causing this error. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:39, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

:Yeah, I saw! It's good that we have him on here, too. I figured those weird AKs were modified R5s, but it's nice to have confirmation. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:35, 12 April 2011 (CDT)

== RE: Dark Blue ==

Thanks, I think the page is coming along great, too. Oh, and I did some re-organizing on the handguns, as you adviced, so that the main characters' pieces are the first ones you see on the page. I also put the unknown 1911 on the colt government section. Check it out, now it looks even better ;)

I'm also planning on screencapping the second season in the upcoming weeks, as soon as I'm done with the first season and a couple of other projects I'm planning. Cheers, mate --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 02:30, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

== Just to point out since I can't post on the forums (don't have permission): ==

Burt's argument is basically that "RPG" is not the correct term to use to describe an RPG; I've shown him links to BAE Systems and the US Army using the term to describe a class of weapons, but he insists they're incorrect as if he's somehow in a position to overrule experts in the defence industry and the military on what the correct term is. This is why he wants to remove "RPG" from all mentions of the Type 69; he thinks it can only be applied to the RPG-X series of weapons, not to RPG weapons in general or their warheads. Given he's seemingly immune to logic, fixated on "correcting" things that aren't wrong, [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=upload&user=BurtReynoldsMoustache&page=&year=&month=-1 doesn't contribute anything of merit] and edits the same articles in the same way, I'm fairly sure he's actually good old PersonOfInterest; this probably explains why he's trying to describe me as a "troublemaker" (I haven't caused anything resembling trouble in years, last I checked; "good contributor" is probably a better label) since I disagreed with him before. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:48, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

*Further to that, here's something fun: PersonOfInterest's last activity is [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PersonOfInterest 26th August 2010]. He made a new account and came back (and got banned again) just under a month later on [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PersonOfInterest2 September 28th]. [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&target=BurtReynoldsMoustache Burt's first edit is a month and four days later] and he's soon back to editing Goldeneye and the N64 The World Is Not Enough, which were POI's weird little obsessions. He also has that POI quirk of often taking two tries to sign talk page edits, if he bothers to sign them at all (look for places where he edits a talk page twice in a row, including his first two edits). Interesting, huh? Another little thing: [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:007:_The_World_Is_Not_Enough&diff=prev&oldid=363154 the user who posted the top comment was PersonOfInterest]. How come "both" of them think this is the right way to say things on a talk page? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

**Well, people seem to be seeing through his rather ridiculous attempts at character assassination on the forums (yeah, I'm a disruptive user, damn me for posting over a hundred screencaps in the last five days while he's never posted a single one ever). It's basically common sense: if the experts say something and a random person on the internet says something else, the experts are going to be the ones in the right. Anyway, I've copy-pasted the POI stuff to MT2008, so we'll see what he makes of it. Any idea why I can't post on the forums? I registered a new account name (Evil Tim) since I can't get a password reminder for "Vangelis," but that says I don't have permission to post. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:20, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

***Yeah, it's my Hotmail account, though I was cleared for forums on my other account (Gmail) just fine. One of those things, I guess. Anyway, time for me to hit the hay. Have a good one. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:56, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

*Hey, I realise this is kinda dead, but while looking through the abbreviation list I noticed something: Burt said of RPG "we don't use that term on this site." [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_gun_abbreviations&action=historysubmit&diff=294935&oldid=289165 Guess who decided that]? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:50, 22 April 2011 (CDT)

==RE: Feast==

Now that you mentioned it, it seem like the shotgun used in [[Feast]] definitely changes during the film. The trigger guard looks like it's from a Winchester, but the pins resemble Remington. Damn, I guess I'm gonna have to watch it again, to get a good look at it. It's been a couple of years since I saw the film, and just recently I upgraded the pics used on the page to .jpgs. It was one of my first pages, so I wasn't familiar with how the site works, and I initially uploaded them as .pngs. The .pngs are still here somewhere, I couldn't write them over with my .jpegs. I guess they can still be deleted, though? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 14:24, 19 April 2011 (CDT)

Hmm. Time to put Google to use ;) I'll see what I can dig up. Oh and I got you the .pngs, so you only have to delete them:

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_12gauge.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_12gauge2.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_12gauge3.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_paintinggun.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_colt.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_colt2.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_colt3.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_colt3.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_saa.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_saa2.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast870.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast870_2.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast870_3.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast870_4.png

::::Hi, Predator. Long time, no see. Sorry that I'm only now contacting you about the Feast shotgun thing, but to be completely honest; I forgot. I was incredibly busy with work and school and such just the other day, but I just quit my job so now I have time for imfdb :). About the shotgun, I still dont't know what it could be. I tried to do a little Googling but I found nothing enlighting. My dad said that he had subscribed to a Finnish gun magazine when he was younger. So I went to my father's attic and found a stack of old Finnish gun magazines. One of them had a big shotgun comparison article. Still nothing, altough the article itself was very interesting. Coulde the shotgun in the film be like a chinese copy of the 870? Oh and I found a couple of screenshots I hadn't used for the page, I think I'll upload some of them to get some better images. Ps. Forgive me if I sound ditzy, I haven't slept for 27 hours... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 20:41, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

== Everybody hates chris ==

MPM had deleted this page and I had restored it for exactly the same reason you restored it, but I was left a message to keep it deleted. Just letting you know. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 19:11, 21 April 2011 (CDT)

==Xm21 file==
Predator could you completely delete the file as the file I'm trying to upload is the black and white file. It seems that whenever i try to upload the new file it apears to me as a coruption of POI's file wich is a missidentification of the weapon. by deleting all of the versions i can upload a fresh image without anything going wrong with the upload hopefully.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 22:19, 25 April 2011 (CDT)

== Righteous Kill ==

Thanks for the corrections on [[Righteous Kill]], I'm doing them now. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 21:26, 1 May 2011 (CDT)

== Can we get RPG-7 unlocked now? ==

Orca's left the page locked as admin editing only, which seems a little counter-productive since it's a very common weapon and nobody can currently add examples to it's page. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:51, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

== Spaceart ==

I thought the consensus was that they were basically spam and bunni's take on it was "The outbound links need to be removed and the images (he) uploaded need to be off the main pages and on the discussion pages unless they are actual screen used props." I noticed they'd been removed from almost all the articles they were posted on, so just got rid of the rest since none of them were in the right place anyway (all above the main weapon image). Was that not right? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:48, 5 May 2011 (CDT)
:Well, the way I read it was that MPM was the only one for using the images and he changed his mind when bunni said it was spam. I'll move them to the talk pages right now. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:10, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

== Thank you ==

That was starting to get irritating. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:01, 8 May 2011 (CDT)

: Yeah, that'd be good. Could you also do that for [[Black]] and [[Homefront]] since they're both basically finished? They're more likely to be vandalised by anons than added to now. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:14, 8 May 2011 (CDT)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
???? Will that help in any way, and what will that do.--[[User:Zombie Killer 1995|Zombie Killer 1995]] 09:15, 8 May 2011 (CDT)

Ok then do what you can to protect my page please.

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi I need some advise on which scope is better.
[[Image:H&KSG1.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G3SG/1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington Model 700 (1970s Production) .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:Remington-Model-700-BDL 308.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 BDL rifle with no iron sights and scope (current production) - .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm]]

== RE: Tec 9 ==

Hi friend, I replied to your comment on that movie which is apparantly so insulting it needs a special disclaimer. I'd like to know if I can edit the page still, and if the people running this site (I guess this includes you, as an admin) share the views and biases which enabled such a disclaimer to be put on that page.
Peace [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 12:54, 3 June 2011 (CDT)

::Sorry to interject on your talk page, Predator20 :) but I must reply to TEC 9.
:::Dear mister Tec-9, quoted below is one of your comments: '''''"If the people who run this place feel that is an offense or breach to the rules of this wiki, then I'd be happy for them to ban me. It just proves this wiki is run by ignorant red-neck gun-lovers who lack the open-mindedness and moderateness to question the actions of their service members. "''''' You IMMEDIATELY cop an attitude and insult the people on this site. If our biases are so egregious, you Mister Tec-9 are welcome to go elsewhere. The Mods of IMFDB have banned tons of guys who violate the rules. Having a foul attitude or elitist demeanor is not one of them. Don't parade your self important "I am non biased" BS and try to make changes that are inappropriate. Your comments already belie a pre-existing bias. You have a bias against gun "lovers", 'rednecks' and "Americans" or you wouldn't use the terms as an insult. You obviously don't care that unlike [[Casualties of War]]. the film [[Redacted]] came out in the middle of a conflict, stoking the fires of Anti-American hatred, giving a huge propaganda boot to the enemy, stoking anger and hatred when our men and women are out there risking their lives to fight terrorism. This arrogant insulting tome usually manifests itself when we encounter European or Foreign based IMFDB members. Now I don't know where you hail from, but your attitude immediately rubbed me the wrong way. :) best regards MPM2008
'''MPM2008:''' I replied to your points on the discussion page of that movie, and for all intents and purposes, I take back my use of the term 'Redneck'. I wont ruin Predator20's page, in writing my arguememt against your statement, so please check out that page. And I'd just like to add that they are not fighting terrorism - you used to be able to enjoy a nice cold beer an a bellydance at a decent hang-out in Baghdad before, now alcohol is banned and the government in Iraq is run by the Ayatollah Islamist scumbags in Iran, with Persians and terrorists crawling out of the woodwork everywhere. US soldiers have caused more suffering to innocent Iraqis than terrorists. Also, please feel free to reply back on my Wiki page for further discussion.
Take care. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 07:40, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

'''Predator20:''' Thanks again for the reply. I do completely agree, that the term "The members" should probably be changed to "Some members". However, a IMFDB lacks a comprehensive framework of just how many members need to be express insult at any particular film for it to have a disclaimer. Also, even if we say 'X-number of members need to express insult for a disclaimer', this will be open for abuse by people who'll herd in loads of new members just to get that disclaimer. And finally, IMFDB is a wiki to document movies - it should have no place for opinions - no matter how burning some members feel they are. This will keep it's credibility as an unbiased source for everyone as opposed to a politicied forum. Members can also always join the plethora of Right-Wing/Conservative NRA-type forums out there to express such opinions. I feel this is the first step of a very slippery slope in the politicisation of this place.
Peace bro. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 07:41, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

==RE: .38 Supers==
Yeah, I remember that talk with Steve as well. I can't remember for sure, but I think the gun from Public Enemies was a 9mm from the start (I've looked over the image of it though and can't tell). But he said that there are currently no registered .38 Super blank guns in Hollywood armories. Since someone on the Desperado page claimed the 1911 looked like a .38 Super, I corrected it because if today .38 Super blank guns are unheard of, it's highly improbable that one was used in a low-budget film from 1994. The only chance is if they were being supplied by an armorer in Mexico while filming there, since .38 Super is the largest military caliber permitted, giving it a higher chance of being used in place of a .45. Like you said though, it's very likely a 9mm Series 80, and not a Colt Super .38. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I stand corrected. I misremembered what he said I guess. Matt sent me the picture as well, it didn't click with me that the pre-series 70s weren't sold in 9mm. My bad. >.< - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: The Big Bang ==

Thanks for the compliments. I just re-uploaded your screencap. Oh, and thanks for reminding me about the opening credits sequence. I remember that I first thought the gun was a series 70/series 80 as I had seen one in the film, but couldn't remember where. It was driving me nuts, so I just wrote it off as an M1911A1, hoping that someone would correct me, lol :). --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 07:03, 16 July 2011 (CDT)

==Improper Gun Image==

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:M1911.jpg

Isn't there a rule about posting gun images of the firearms in-hand and using them on pages? Like it's not even allowed? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:06, 16 July 2011 (CDT)

:: Didn't know it was actually a screenshot, and not just a gun image, that's fine. Still not correct to use it as a gun image though (Ben's since changed it on that MoH page so it's fine now). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:43, 18 July 2011 (CDT)

==Censoring issue with a member==

[[Special:Contributions/Yodawg|Yodawg]]

This guy has done random censors (by using asterisks in the word) on a few pages now and frankly, I've become annoyed. User Evil Tim and myself talked to Ben41 about it but he did it again and I'm now wondering if's he purposely doing it solely to annoy users like myself. The rules state to keep swears to a minimum, not to censor them entirely, and also it relates to user comments and article descriptions, not movie quotes. I could be incorrect but that's simply how I interpret it. I've left him a message on his talk page and Ben's but I wanted to bring this to the attention of other Admins as well, because I'm seriously starting to consider it a problem. I've posted this to you and JCordell so far (in addition to Ben) but I think I'll stop and let you guys go from here. I really don't like even bothering multiple people like this but this seriously rubbed me the wrong way. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:21, 17 July 2011 (CDT)

:: That's a good point, and I appreciate the reply. Frankly, I've always found censors to be silly, especially in regard to sites like this one (We're a site about guns, things that hurt and kill other living beings, and somebody's offended by a 'fuck' here and there?), but that's another matter. Point is, I'm not the one forcing the issue, this guy is, and I really feel he's not forcing an issue so much as being a annoying semi-vandal under the guise of eliminating bad words. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:51, 17 July 2011 (CDT)

==Wacko Watch strikes back==

[[Special:Contributions/Daitravdyazen]] I believe the specific offense would be 'spamming links to external sites'. Of course you may not get em but hopefully somebody does soon.. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:51, 18 July 2011 (CDT)

: No prob, man. I actually had a little fun vandalizing him back.. I know I shouldn't have done it but.. bah. ;b [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 15:02, 18 July 2011 (CDT)

:: EDIT - On a secondary note, since it seems the whole site is going that way (though it doesn;t seem to help that much), mind protecting my user and talk pages? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 15:03, 18 July 2011 (CDT) EDIT AGAIN - Thanks much.

==RE:==

I don't really care if that comment is removed. I only included it as a concession to all of the people who disagreed and insisted the gun might be a G23. Since that debate is long over, the comment can go. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:23, 31 July 2011 (CDT)

== Vandalous newcomer in Battlefield 3 page ==

Hello.

I need to report a newcomer: [[Special:Contributions/Lukewilliams010]] in Battlefield 3 page whose actions are of vandalous nature. He posts leaked (not official) material, keeping referring to it as the other way round, and swears on everyone who mentions this to him, particularly: [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_3&diff=prev&oldid=444768] [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_3&diff=prev&oldid=450770] [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_3&diff=prev&oldid=450861] [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_3&diff=prev&oldid=451130]. And he doesn't sign his posts seemingly in attempt to hide his identity (which is of course impossible thanks to "View history" feature. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 16:40, 24 August 2011 (CDT)

: Thanks.

: Which currently present admin would you suggest to message about video game issue next time? I've tried to message Gunmaster45 a couple of days before but he seems to be absent. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 14:53, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

::Understood and appreciated --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 15:30, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

== Remington 870 ==

Sorry, I had found the image on the Rem 870 discussion page and didn't know it was from your page (that's why I made a new image and didn't overwrite the original). If you're photographing them again, it would be great if you could photograph both sides. Thanks! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 16:34, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, your 870 is the only one on the site with wood furniture and the extended mag tube. I can do the "white out" part if you want and I'll make sure to give you the proper credit for taking the picture. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 16:47, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

== Variations of guns missing in overview ==

Sorry to bother but there's a thing I hope you can help me out with.

A few months ago you were kind enough to add the Bruni 92 to the Beretta 92 page. Do you have any idea why this particular gun (and e.g. the Springfield Armory Omega which I added on the M1911A1 page yesterday), don't show up in overviews when you type their names? For instance, when I choose the search function on the left side of the screen, and go to 'B' for bruni, then there's no trace of the Bruni 92.

Aren't variations of guns like e.g. Beretta 92 and Colt M1911A1 supposed to show up in the search function and does one need to scroll down from the 'mother' model? In any way, look forward to have your opinion on this. Thanks a lot --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 06:20, 27 August 2011 (CDT)

Thanks a lot for your comment on how to make redirects, works like crazy! Even though I have only created 3 movie pages, I like this site to be as complete as possible and I'd hate certain guns to be missing from the general overview. Also increases the risk that people create duplicate pages.

By the way, I checked your personal gunpage; WOW! My favourite is the Hi-Power with the Captains' rear sight, awesome! --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 11:39, 28 August 2011 (CDT)

== Thanks ==

Whew, I was wondering when one of you was going to jump in. Have fun deleting. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:42, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

== Nazi Fishwife ==

Hey Predator, thanks for getting rid of Nazi fishwife. I've been watching him for the past week now, and I sent him a message telling him to stop with his language and insults. I was hoping to get a response from him, but by his edits, he was just another troll, and I was probably going to block him eventually myself. Thanks, you do your job well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 13:29, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

== Deleting a movie page ==

I was hoping you'd be able to tell me how to delete a movie page. Reason is I created a page for [[Leningrad]] but after I created the page, I noticed that the correct title should be [[Leningrad (Attack on)]]. I copied all the coding to a newly created page for the correct title, but the empty page [[Leningrad]] still remains. Thanks if you can spare me a few minutes to let me know how I can correct this, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 09:16, 5 September 2011 (CDT)

MoviePropMaster2008 has already picked up this matter. I am in contact with him about this, but thanks anyway for your response, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 05:05, 6 September 2011 (CDT)

== kasxjamil58 ==

"Jamil" and that spammer's already gone by "Jamal" before. And his first edit is impersonating an admin... [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:14, 6 September 2011 (CDT)

== JD0556 ==

Hey Predator20, that vandal that's been abusing all those accounts came back under the username: JD0556, I think I may have talked some sense into him this time, so he might have stopped for good, but do you think you can't keep an eye on incase he does whenever I'm not around?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Thanks---[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 13:54, 10 September 2011 (CDT)

==Cut down Ted Williams==
I have access to four (4) cut down Ted Williams Model 21 shotguns. If you want, I can check and see if there is a model that matches the look of the others, just let me know which films you want me to look at. I just grabbed one because of time constraints. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 14:48, 10 September 2011 (CDT)

== A little help... ==

Hello again. I just screencapped the page ''[[Hannibal Rising]]'', and there's a [[Hannibal_Rising#Unknown_Heavy_Machine_Gun|heavy machine gun]] I do not recognize. At first I thought it was a [[DShK]], but then again I'm not sure. Do you perhaps know what it is? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 08:44, 12 September 2011 (CDT)
::Nevermind, it seems that someone already ID'd it. But thanks for the suggestion, that's what I'd have gone if someone hadn't recognized it --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 12:49, 12 September 2011 (CDT)

== WTF? ==

I wanted to add tens of download links (none not tested by myself and virus free), thought to try only a few times since I wasn't sure if it was allowed, why was I accused of "spamming" and IP banned?

== RE: a request ==

Here you go:

[[Image:ThePunisherTedWilliamsFront.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The best shot of the front of the barrel.]]

That is the clearest shot of the front of the barrel, even though a bit shaky.

ps. Does this have something to do with the conversation on MPM's talk page? ;) --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 18:11, 12 September 2011 (CDT)

::Ooh, sweet :P --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 18:21, 12 September 2011 (CDT)

==Cut down Ted Williams==
Crap. Just my luck. I'm presented with FOUR cut down Model 21s. I grab the one with the flush cut because at the time I think that's what IMFDB needs. I distinctly remember other shotguns with slightly longer barrels. Just great... :( Oh well. Let's call that a place holder until I get get a pic of the right gun! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:51, 12 September 2011 (CDT)

== Featured Article ==

That is weird. Not sure why it throws a blank one. If we keep adding movies I think it's less likely to throw a blank one... I'll have to check out the documentation to see why that happens. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 14:31, 13 September 2011 (CDT)

:Hi Predator20! Delete the last <nowiki>"@@@"</nowiki> (right above the very last <nowiki>"<random>"</nowiki>) and it will not show the blank page anymore. Now it thinks that there is an empty page after Heat, and puts that blank page to the rotation too. (I would do it but the page is locked.) - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 15:10, 13 September 2011 (CDT)

== Cbeattie ==

Well, he's back. And straight back to his old hobby of harassing Mr. Wolf over that "terror scoped rifle" he seems utterly obsessed with. Could you ban him again? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:37, 20 September 2011 (CDT)
:Take a look at [[Special:Contributions/Cbeattie]] or at [[User_talk:Mr._Wolf#Terror_Scoped_rifle_from_The_Saboteur]]. This kid ''constantly'' posts on this damn thing, just randomly trying to guess what this one fictional rifle in [[The Saboteur]] is. He's been warned by Alienqueen11 to knock it off ([[User_talk:Cbeattie#Hey]]) but the first thing he did when his ban expired was go straigh back to harassing the same user over the same issue; Mr. Wolf has ''repeatedly'' told him he's never played the game and doesn't care for this discussion. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:48, 20 September 2011 (CDT)

Please tell me what is wrong with proving that the terror scoped rifle is real whitich it is util somebody can prove it is not real then the fact will not change. ([[User:Cbeattie|Cbeattie]] 12:32, 20 September 2011 (CDT))

If it stays the ZH-29 then a will not edit it but if someone gets rid of that then i will Edit and they should get blocked for getting rid of false info. ([[User:Cbeattie|Cbeattie]] 04:22, 21 September 2011 (CDT))

What have you done i am going to complain to the bosses of this about this outrage :( ([[User:Cbeattie|Cbeattie]] 10:00, 21 September 2011 (CDT))

== Automated notices after revisions/new comments on pages ==

Sorry to take your time but as a semi-novice on IMFDB, I would appreciate your expert input. I have created a number of pages already (movies, guns, actors...) and of course people have made changes to them, which is of course the fun of IMFDB. However, I only see these changes when I check 'my' pages manually and with the number of pages increasing by time, this is not ideal.

Would you have any suggestion as to how I could keep track of revisions/updates on pages that I originally created? This way I can see all comments, respond in a timely manner and learn from others. In an ideal situation, you'd have automated notices (like the ones generated for new posts on MyTalk pages) but maybe you are aware of other options. Thanks a bunch, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 07:40, 26 September 2011 (CDT)

== Spammer + ones to watch ==

[[User:Nm7efSk94]] is another spammer, and registered a couple of days back. I'd also kill [[User:Lcb63g9Yk]] as it was registered around the same time (and at the same time that "Aiai00125" was registered) and is the same pattern, username made with a password generator, I guess to stop us blocking common strings if it's just working from a list. [[User:Solow6s]] registered around the same time as that "CAllgood50" guy you dealt with the other night and seems to follow a theme (price being so low / all good). [[User:Raul00977]] is the same name format as Aiai00125 (four letters with initial capital, five numbers with two leading zeroes). [[User:Tempfile]] is another worth watching; weird username, hasn't done anything at all after registering. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:28, 28 September 2011 (CDT)

Also, kinda weird that Nm7efSk94's spam message didn't actually include any links. Botfail, I guess. I can't imagine Ford would hire a spam company to post PR material for the Focus. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:40, 28 September 2011 (CDT)

:New one: [[User:Curt923028]]. Four letters / initial capital again, but now new and improved with six totally random numbers. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:45, 28 September 2011 (CDT)
Just to let you know. We have another incoming group of spammers that registered around the same time period: [[User:6qzWH3fiyS]], [[User:Hws5i2iS3]], and [[User:3f8WoqN8]]. They are using the same distinctive username format as the other users. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 08:04, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

::[[User:3f8WoqN8]] was using an IP address from my ISP ([http://www.orange.co.uk/ Orange], a UK ISP), and I briefly ended up banned until I turned my router off and on again. Orange has an actual, proper TOU that it enforces; we should probably get Bunni to send the IP and access times to them and see if we can get rid of this guy for good. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:44, 30 September 2011 (CDT)

:::Ok. Sadly I forgot to make a note of the banned IP, but we have action from him on 30/09/11 at 2:47 GMT, and he registered 29/09/11 at 06:19 GMT. According to the [http://www.orange.co.uk/images/editorial/Home-Network-Terms-010911.pdf TOU] you can't use the service "to send or procure the sending of any unsolicited advertising or promotional material" (18.1.4). [http://www1.orange.co.uk/documents/about/Orange-complaints-code-20110118.pdf This] is the complaints procedure, which I think would apply to this. So all you need to do is pass this stuff and his IP to Bunni and see if he can make fireworks appear under this guy's ass. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:06, 30 September 2011 (CDT)

This might be something to do with Bunni's new host, actually. I just looked up that IP: [http://www.ipchecking.com/?ip=173.245.53.76&check=Lookup look at the whois information]. It's somehow autoblocked one of ''CloudFlare's'' servers rather than what I thought (one of my ISP's addresses), which I imagine means it's just dinging random users who are served by it. So what I said above doesn't apply. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:06, 30 September 2011 (CDT)

== Re: another request ==

Yeah, I still have the DVD. I just don't know where it is yet, as I just recently moved into a new apartment. It's somewhere inside one of the six ''BIG'' trashbags that I used to move my DVDs and BLU-Rays here... :D I'll take a shot at finding it, as it on my 'to-do' -list to sort them out. I only kept a couple of DVDs/BLU-Rays at hand, as they're sort of top priority for me to do on IMFDB. Oh, and sorry for the late reply. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 12:35, 10 October 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:Thursday1911 Plummer8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Here's the shot, finally. Got my DVDs all sorted out. But I don't know if that's any clearer than your shot. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 03:03, 6 December 2011 (CST)

== Funny thing ==

That "Richzgmjpe" guy you unbanned? Turned out it was a spambot. Not one thing it's another, huh? :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:45, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

== Weapon Naming Question ==

Hello.

I wanted to inquire about one standard that is absent from [[Rules, Standards and Principles]] page. The weapon naming. If the weapon was called incorrectly in the first place, is it allowable for users to change it to correct one, provided they provide serious sources (that is, not some unsourced Wikipedian stub)?

An example of such weapon is '''SVU''' (incorrectly called 'SVU Dragunov', as I was explaining on the [[Talk:SVD Dragunov|corresponding talk page]]. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 07:56, 13 November 2011 (CST)

==Mythbusters==

Hey man. Thanks for the help with the Mythbusters page. To answer your question, I'm trying to put them in Alphabetical order. Seemed to make the most sense to me... I'm just learning to use this site so bear with me.
Also I agree with you that the 1911 looks like a Colt Series 70. If you feel like it, go ahead and change it. The Colt Series 70 also needs to be added to the 1911 page.
Thanks again.
--[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 00:01, 3 December 2011 (CST)

== Top Shot ==

I noticed that you seem to be the admin for the Top Shot page. I have been updating it over the past few days and it's started to get pretty full. With at least a 4th season on the way, should we maybe split the page up into a separate page for each season? I have a feeling people with a slower internet connection will have a hell of a time trying to open this page. Let me know your thoughts.
--[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 21:50, 5 December 2011 (CST)

:I just had another user ([[User:Ben41]]) tell me that the non-guns had to be removed from the main page of each season of [[Top Shot]]... Since you're an admin i want to check with you regarding this. I really feel that they belong on the main page. They play a pivotal role in the show and are the focus of attention when in use. It also is for "completeness" sake. I don't want to only list 20 out of 24 weapons. In a movie, when you see a kid playing with a paintball gun for 10 seconds, I agree that THAT would not belong on the main page. Also, I feel that anyone unfamiliar with the sight who finds them selves here looking at the weapons will not know to check the discussion page (personally i never looked at a discussion page until I joined the site after using it for months to look things up). I found at least three other cases where this is NOT the way it is done. In [[Rambo (2008)]] for example, the machete and bow are included on the main page. Same with the Custom Torque Bow in [[Predator]]. Finally in [[Punisher, The (2004)| The Punisher]] the compound bow is included. I would appreciate your input on this.--[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:52, 7 December 2011 (CST)

:Since posting the above message I have learned that Ben41 is also an administrator and I made a few mistakes with my handling of his changes. I still disagree with the removal of the non-gun items from the main page however, particularly things like the canon and the crossbow both of which have presidents for being included on the main page.

::I just feel that they play a big role in the show since an entire episode is devoted to them. But as you wish. Thanks for your input. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:22, 7 December 2011 (CST)

== Renaming Pictures ==

On another subject, is there an easy way to rename a photo? I have uploaded a couple of pictures only to find out i thought they were the wrong gun. (For example uploaded a file called MB-SigP226.jpg that is actually a SIG P239.) Is there a simple way to rename the file? Thanks. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:29, 7 December 2011 (CST)

:Oh well. Glad to know im not the only one. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:47, 7 December 2011 (CST)

== Occurance Listing ==

Question for you. I have noticed that some guns have a formatted table for listing their occurrences ([[M16_rifle_series#M16_Rifle|M16]]) while others have a list ([[Smith & Wesson M&P]]). Which is the proper format? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:38, 8 December 2011 (CST)

== Categories ==

Hey. I got another question for you. I noticed that some pages don't have the category listings (Handguns, Shotguns, Machineguns, etc.). Is there a rule of thumb for when to use or not to use the headings? Obviously if the movie has only 2 guns, or only handguns it isn't necessary. Just wondering. Thanx! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:52, 12 December 2011 (CST)

:Good to know. I would have thought to just put everything in alphabetical order. I might try and do a movie or two. For the most part I'm just trying to get a better feel for the rules and the way things usually work here. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:18, 12 December 2011 (CST)

:: Sorry to bombard you with questions... Can you direct me to a good page to use as a template for a gun page? I want to make sure that the characteristics, specifications, etc. are in the proper order. I was trying to add the characteristics to the [[Smith & Wesson Model 460]] but it seemed like all the S&W revolvers I looked at had a different layout. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:50, 12 December 2011 (CST)

::: Sounds good. Thanks man. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:01, 12 December 2011 (CST)

== G.I. Joe: Retaliation ==

The one Ben made has the title wrong which is why I missed it (misses out a period). Can you delete mine and move his one there. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:09, 13 December 2011 (CST)

== Sortable Tables ==

Hey man, I was using the 'Random Page' button and I Came across the page for [[Amitabh Bachchan]] which has a sortable table. Is there a reason we don't use these everywhere?! They are awesome and eliminate the need to make sure the entries are placed in chronological order. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 08:47, 16 December 2011 (CST)

:The poster set-up is beyond cool. It looks very similar to the setup used on Wikipedia. We should definitely start doing that on here. (IMHO)

== M1911 ==

Yeah, I don't doubt that, but I'd rather leave it to MPM to make the changes himself if any changes need to be made. Also, regardless of whether our "friend" is right or wrong, he's so utterly obnoxious that we really don't need him around. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:50, 22 December 2011 (CST)
:Naw, no point. I handed him a month's ban for a nasty attitude and he's just coming back to post increasingly disjointed and useless rants on my talk page (apparently site policy is entirely my fault how dare I). Just infinite-ban him if he shows up again with new accounts, he's shown he has no desire to work with the people on this wiki. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:57, 22 December 2011 (CST)
::The part I left on is nit-picking. [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Evil_Tim&curid=105940&diff=499895&oldid=499894 This] is what I'm talking about when I say he doesn't belong here. That is not acceptable behaviour. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:01, 22 December 2011 (CST)
That RIA 1911 needs the descriptions changing in every page that uses it, too. I'll have a crack at them tomorrow if you don't want to do that, but I'm off to bed now. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:40, 22 December 2011 (CST)

== Desperado 1911 ==

The M1911A1 in [[Desperado]] is a Colt Mk IV series pistol. I just watched the film on blu-ray and noticed that this page didn't have the correct info.There's a brief scene in the film where the rollmarks aee visible. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 15:25, 22 December 2011 (CST)

== Gun Brand Page ==

Hey man, I posted something in the Main Page discussion ([[Talk:Main_Page#Gun_Brands_Pages|Here]]) that I would love your input on when you have time. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:30, 23 December 2011 (CST)

:How are they looking? ([[Heckler & Koch]], [[Ruger]], [[Barrett]], [[FN Herstal]]). I'd love some feedback from an admin. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:10, 23 December 2011 (CST)

::haha! Yea the S&W page is gna take me days to do... O well. Happy holidays. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:44, 23 December 2011 (CST)

:::So I'm thinking about starting on the Smith & Wesson page tonight. Any word on whether these pages are gna stick around? I got some positive feedback from Bunni who said he wanted to add a new category for them. A few other admins seemed to like them but i wanted to see what the formal approval process was. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:39, 4 January 2012 (CST)

Gotcha. Thanks man! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:01, 4 January 2012 (CST)

==M1911==
Thanks for the RIA change. I've said before that I'm NOT an M1911 expert. There are guys who obsess over that gun and read every book on the subject. I'm just learning to recognize the details ''(got lots of weapons to remember after all, just recently had to teach another gun guy how to assemble the three types of Uzis - full size, mini and Micro)''. If the gun afficionados don't have a bad attitude, they can be a true asset to IMFDB. People can point out mistakes without exhibiting jerkish behavior. :) I'm just working my butt off trying to get good pics of movie weapons (under difficult circumstances). YOU can pretty much change or correct any description of my pics, if you know on good authority otherwise. :) I don't get all bent out of shape when '''trusted''' mods and members make corrections. I go by the tags, and sometimes the tags are wrong. People forget that these guns aren't in some public display where the ID tags have to be 100% verified. In fact many of these weapons are '''NEVER''' seen by the eyes of the general public, except in a movie/tv show ..''' or here''' :) Good to know you're working so hard to improve IMFDB on a daily basis. :) Oh, and happy holidays. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== H&K Grenade Launchers ==

Hey. So I know there are all kinds of rules about changing the name of existing pages, but out of curiosity, why do [[Heckler & Koch HK69A1 grenade launcher]] & [[Heckler & Koch AG36 Grenade Launcher]] have "grenade launcher" in the title while [[Heckler & Koch M320]] & [[Heckler & Koch GMG]] do not. The technical names for the weapons do not contain "grenade launcher". Just curious. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 21:08, 24 December 2011 (CST)

:any objections to me changing it and adding a redirect? Also, sorry that message double posted. Not sure how that happened. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:09, 25 December 2011 (CST)

== Specifications ==

You must hate me for continually bombarding you with questions... Hope you know I'm only doing it cause I want to make sure I am helping and not just causing problems... Also you are so much smarter than me... Anyway enough kissing up... With guns that have Variations ([[Heckler & Koch P2000]] or [[Heckler & Koch USP]] for example), should each subcategory have its own specifications with the different length, capacity, etc. For example should the [[Heckler & Koch P2000]] have just one specifications section for the page or should there be one for the H&K P2000 and one for the H&K P2000SK. (This is the way I did the page but I want to make sure that this is ok. If I'm supposed to just do one section I will gladly correct it.) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:05, 25 December 2011 (CST)

:Fair enough. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 17:11, 25 December 2011 (CST)

== S&W Specs ==

Hey man. One gun I know I could use some help on is the [[Smith & Wesson Model 460]]. The S&W website only list it with 8"+ barrel lengths but I know at some point it was made with a 5" barrel. If that's in ur book, that would be great. Other than that, if you feel like looking through the [[Smith & Wesson]] page and just filling in the question marks where info is missing that would be a huge help. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:09, 8 January 2012 (CST)

:Just got an idea from a guy in the forum that I wanted to bounce off ya. What do you think about adding a column to the [[Smith & Wesson]] page that list the Frame? (J, K, L, etc). Could definitely help with the identification process. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:15, 9 January 2012 (CST)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the assist on Homicide. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:42, 9 January 2012 (CST)
:I knew it was special due to the adjustable sights, but I guess I didn't look hard enough. I admit, I'm bad with M1911s. It's hard to pick up on distinguishing details sometimes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:06, 9 January 2012 (CST)

==Moving pages?==
Huh? I'm actually against the moving of the 870 shotgun page. I think we take for granted that people automatically know what they're looking at because We see it all the time. I actually prefer being MORE clear by putting shotgun, rifle, or pistol in the actual title. Do you have any objections to that? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:14, 11 January 2012 (CST)

:Just wanted to add my apology for the part that I played in this debacle. I left a longer explanation on MPM2008's page... With no intent to throw others under the bus, I would have used the move function if I had changed the page but I wanted to leave it for an admin to do. As I said to MPM2008, I will not be moving any gun pages any more. Period. Anyway, just wanted to say I was sorry, again. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:44, 12 January 2012 (CST)

== Another one ==

While you've got your banhammer arm all warmed up: [[Prescription Drug Addiction Today]] --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:08, 12 January 2012 (CST)

== Manufacturer Template ==

I created a template for the manufacturer pages ([[Manufacturer Template]]). I am going to add a link to it from the <nowiki>[[Category:Manufacturer]]</nowiki> page. I would love any input from you and other admins on it. I want to make it as straight forward as possible. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:36, 19 January 2012 (CST)

== Colt Challenger ==

Hey man, I found a better quality image of the [[Colt Challenger]] and I was going to replace yours but I wanted to make sure it was ok with you first. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 01:08, 26 January 2012 (CST)
:Sounds good! Thanks man. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:42, 26 January 2012 (CST)
::Another one for ya. The [[Colt .22 Target Model]]... Is it not a member of the [[Colt Woodsman]] family?

== Removing references. ==

My mistake. Wont happen again. As always, you make a good point. Thanks for you guidance. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:05, 7 February 2012 (CST)

== Admin.... ==

I cannot believe you nominated me for admin status... You rock. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:47, 9 February 2012 (CST)

==Blu ray==
Check the Videolan forums on Blu-ray playback --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 18:11, 16 February 2012 (CST)

== CSI NY ==

Hey man. Just wanted to say thanks for the help with the [[CSI: NY - Season 7]] page. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:55, 22 February 2012 (CST)
:Thanks again for the help! Just finished uploading the last screenshots. Still a few unknown guns but other than that, DONE! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 20:39, 24 February 2012 (CST)

== Continuity error ==

I just assumed it was different lighting/angles but I'll trust whatever you want to put up. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 00:03, 28 February 2012 (CST)

== 1911 Gallery ==

Hey man. Thanks for the feedback on the [[1911 Gallery]]. As I have said before, I'm still a newbie with guns so it is always great to get feedback for the more experienced/knowledgeable folk. If you are willing to help me out with the page, it would be great to organize it in a more useful manner. I really like what [[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] did with the [[SIG-Sauer P220 Pistol Series Gallery]]. I'm going to try too modify the [[1911 Gallery]] so its more like the SIG one. More categories is a definite must. Also a 1 sentence description of identifying marks would also be helpful. Any and all help is, as always, appreciated. :-) I'm in the middle of college final exams so I probably won't do much work on this until the weekend. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 12:24, 22 March 2012 (CDT)
:your the man! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 12:39, 22 March 2012 (CDT)

I REALLY like what you're doing with the page. Feel free to move your stuff to the main page once you're done sorting it. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:00, 22 March 2012 (CDT)
:Let's call it a fair split. I did the easy, busy work of compiling the stuff and you did the meaningful part of sorting it in a way that actually makes sense.--[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:38, 22 March 2012 (CDT)
::I'd love to replace the stuff on the main page with your new categories, but i dont want to do it until you are done with your re-organization because I can tell there are some that you havent done yet.--[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:38, 22 March 2012 (CDT)

== Star Pistols ==

What do you think about merging the [[Star Model BM]], [[Star Model B]] and [[Star Model-P]] pages. They are all defiantly in the same family. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/sp/star-a-b-b-super-p-e.html What do you think? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:15, 23 March 2012 (CDT)

== I need you or another admins help, my other account was blocked wrongfully. ==

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me with an issue I am having. Admin "Evil Tim" blocked me for no reason thinking I was some guy named "Burt", which I am not, my name is Danny. I tryed to contact him about it on my blocked account "Glock17gen4", but it wouldnt let me so I'm forced to use this account I made. I tryed to contact him and I have no received a reply, I think he is ignoring the msg or something. I was wondering if you could help and unblock my other account, thanks. [[User:SaferSephiroth|SaferSephiroth]] 16:24, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

== Thank you for helping, but Evil Tim blocked me again... ==

Yes, he thinks I am this Burt Reynolds Mustache guy, I dont know why, it seems he doesnt check IPs before blocking. He says he thinks I am that person because I changed the gun on the Perfect Dark page to the one on the Goldeneye 007 page. I only did that because the "classic guns" in PD are based off the ones in GE 007, I was only going off what I thought was accurate, and at the time the GE 007 page said the DD44/CC13 was the Tokaypt or whatever, I was fooled I guess. I am sorry I didn't know that it was actually the Tokarev, but I am not Burt Reynold's Mustache(lol) and I really wish to be unblocked again, I wish there was a way to explain to Evil Tim that I am not that user besides the fact that my IP would be different than his. [[User:RugerLord|RugerLord]] 14:32, 8 April 2012 (CDT)
And then he goes on a vandalism spree on Evil tims pages and then mine when I revert his vandalism. Thanks Predator.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 19:06, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

== Delete ==

Hey man, any chance you can look at some of the pages up for deletion ([[:Category:Delete]])? There are a couple of blank gun pages ([[Smith & Wesson Model 619]] for example) that I nuked a while ago and haven't been deleted yet. It'd be great to have an admin review these. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:37, 27 April 2012 (CDT)
:Would you mind deleting [[Template:Foreign TV Infobox]]? It has been incorporated into another template. Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:46, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

== Infoboxes ==

Hey. So first off, a disclaimer, I am posting the following message for each of the Admins so don't think I'm spamming. Just want to get input from all of you. I have been working on a number of infoboxes for different pages ([[Template:Infobox Movie]], [[Template:Infobox TV]], [[Template:Infobox Video Game]]). I have already gotten some help from [[Bunni]] who installed an additional add-on to facilitate the templates. I would love to get some feedback from you (and other admins) regarding these. Do you like the format? Are there things you would like changed? Should additional information be added? The nice thing is that with the add-on that [[Bunni]] installed, you do not have to provide all the information for the infobox. Any variables left blank will simply not be printed.

Finally, I would like to see how you feel about my adding these to pages. I have gotten positive feedback from a number of users (including at least 3 admins) but before I add this to more than a dozen or so pages (which I have done for testing purposes) I want to really get full permission. I know that sweeping changes are a '''MAJOR''' no-no without full admin approval. Check out the thread in the forum (http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1942). I look forward to hearing your feedback! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:17, 9 May 2012 (CDT)

==Bad Pages==
[[Rules,_Standards_and_Principles#Quality.2C_NOT_Quantity:_Lame_or_Weak_Pages_are_discouraged|"Quality, NOT Quantity: Lame or Weak Pages are discouraged"]] You said yourself that some of those pages were bad. Do they "reflect poorly on IMFDB as a whole?" If the answer is yes, then why keep them around? It's not like these pages haven't had their chances to be finished, some of them have been around for three years. If a user can't be bother to do more than to name some guns and maybe toss in a production image, maybe we should "wait until someone is ready to make a complete and professional page." As a user who's finished dozens of incomplete pages, that's my two cents. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 17:23, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
:I gotta agree here, particularly with gun pages that have no entries... [[Rules,_Standards_and_Principles#Image_Rules:_Gun_Images|IMFDB is not a gun encyclopedia. We don't need pages for every gun ever made, only guns which have actually appeared in something. Please refrain from creating new pages for guns that don't appear in any movie, television show, anime or Video Game. Just because it exists somewhere doesn't mean we want it here.]] Why did you un-nuke the [[Smith & Wesson Model 320 Revolving Rifle]] and the [[Taurus PT915]]? These pages have nothing but a picture... No specs, no description. NOTHING. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:52, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
::While I understand that... It directly contradicts the Rules, standards and Principles. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:14, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

can you believe that bane gets blown up by Selena Kyle on the Batpod, mirander tate/taliah Al ghul gets killed in a truck crash after stabbing batman in the side. and batman carries the nuclear bomb to safety jumping out of the bat (plane) and emigrates to florence with selena kyle. :~OOOOOO i know right!!!!--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:08, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

User talk:Kenny99

2012-07-21T02:08:47Z

Pistolpete:

==Erm...==

I'm not sure how you think uploading a picture of a ''Korean'' tank is going to prove anything about what American tanks in Crysis are armed with. I put two images side by side in the article. It is exactly, precisely the same weapon model. There's no M60D anywhere, just a Type 88 with spade grips. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 04:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

*Yes, but this isn't the internet movie firearm noise database, we're going by what the gun looks like. Both guns are identical, so writing them up as if they're not doesn't make sense. And personally I haven't noticed any difference in firing sounds either, so I find that claim a little odd. The ASV Anti-Vehicle is definately a 20mm [the game actually says so when you take control of the Korean armoured vehicle armed with one during "Shore Leave"] so it's not an M2; it certainly has some design elements copied from the M2, but there's elements of the H&K GMG in there [especially the barrel] and the ammo belt is ''huge'', much too large for a 50 cal. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 04:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

**The majority of Crysis' weapons are based closely on real-life weapons, many being combinations of parts from several; that goes for the majority of the vehicles, too [for example, the US tank is a combination of the M1A1 Abrams, British Challenger I and Israeli Merkava 3: I don't know why they went for old versions of the three tanks, mind]. Avoiding precisely replicating real weapons means you don't have to pay fees to anyone for the image of that weapon to appear in your game; it seems 'Frankenguns' like the ones in Crysis aren't enough to get copyright claims filed. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 04:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== I think the article on Crysis is pretty much finished. ==

It doesn't need any more images, particularly low-quality, non-gameplay images. I think it's fine as it is and we should focus on getting something like Far Cry 2 up to the same standard. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 18:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

== User page ==

Nothing to do with you, don't worry, it's just a joke. Both of those users are me [Tim is my gaming PC, since I forgot the password to this one]. Also, could you put comments on my discussion page rather than my user page? Thanks. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 12:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

==Hand Held Minigun==
Hi Kenny, Not sure what you mean on the post. I stated the info on the forum and it was posted on the page. The hand hold mount and backpack are a completely new design used for the first time on [[G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra]] then used again on [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]. I designed the mount and built it for the show check out my work on the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] page. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]] 09:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE: MG42==
I re-checked on a high quality bootleg of the movie and you only see the Germans use an MG34, the same one Creed picks up and mows down the gunners with. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
==RE: DSR-1==
Damn. Thanks for the info-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

==hey==
You have no right for saying that wise shit. Nobody cares about that,you bastard. [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]]

==Lisle202==
Hrm, I failed to notice his comment left to you. Because I'm so generous, he gets one more chance. If he doesn't do anything bad in the future, he can go about what he wants. If he tries that smarmy shit with me or any other admins., he's banned for good, no second chances. Same for if he uploads bootlegs. BTW, he seems to have a problem writing with proper grammer (lack of spacing in words, spelling "muzzle" as "mussle", etc.) He even showed this poor grammar in the message he sent to you: ''Nobody cares about that,you bastard.'' Thanks for informing me of this, I've been busy working on Watchmen (which his works interupted) so I haven't been able to patrol the site in full like I usually can. Let me know if he does anything else in the future. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Also, I wanted to point one thing out. In the bootlegs he uploaded, the gun he listed as a Kar98k was in fact the MG34 (you could even see the bipod and such), so if that's what you spotted in the original film, I'm not sure the Kar98k was ever present at all. I think it is kind of ironic, I had put some bootlegs for this movie on the forum (since I know bootlegs don't go here) to confirm and deny certain things, and I did a much better job finding good shots. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Well, it'd be another article. ==

And I don't think it's even been announced yet, so we'll wait and see. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 15:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

*Warhead is basically just an add-on / side story, most of the weapons are the same and it isn't worth a whole article. I'd imagine a full-blown sequel would have a lot more new guns in it, so would get a new article. Anyway, calm down, it's probably not going to sneak up on us in the next five minutes. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 15:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

**Type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [without the nowiki tags, obviously] after your comment and it automatically signs and date-stamps your reply. Anyway, I'm off to bed now, so catch you later. Also, Tim is my other other account, I'm bad at remembering passwords so just use this one. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 15:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Ja==
Du zerstört meine Arbeit, Kenny99! Und die Waffe in Lois und Clark ist eine Glock 18! - [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]] 16:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*You should stop saying that it's an RPK on [[Journey from the Fall]]!! It's not an RPK-grrr!!And I don't understand German. [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 16:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*Ich verstehe nicht, Englisch! - [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]] 16:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==German==
He's indeed speaking German. In his first comment he said "What the? That does not look like an M1911A1."

To translate his newest comment to you:

"Yes"

"You are destroying my work, Kenny99! And the weapon in Lois and Clark is a Glock 18!"

After you reply, he said:

"I do not understand English."

So basically, he doesn't understand a word we are saying, so in order to talk to him, I'll need to brush up on my German grammar. I can translate but writing in the proper way (since it requires proper cases and grammar) will be more difficult. He shouldn't be on an English speaking sight if he can't speak English. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:He CAN speak english. He is just messing with us.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well, anyway I beat you to it and if he can speak German he has a long message to read. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:==
Yes,but I just started in the Beginner's course of German. I understand that this lisle or whatever is messing around on a non German site. - [[User:Crysis|Crysis]] 22:01, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: MI2 Help==
Hey Kenny, The weapon fired from the helicopter is a M4 carbine with a C-More sight that's mounted above the handguard and has a M16/AR15 BRASS CATCHER made by EL Manufacturing. Look at the photo carefully now that you know and you can see features like a carrying handle and the hump in the upper receiver for the cam pin to rotate. Hope this helps you out. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]] 06:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==X-Men Origins==
The videos on IMDB have a little play button in the center that doesn't go away, so that would be obvious in each image. Anyway, XOW will likely be out on DVD in the not too distant future, and I'll bne sure to buy it opening day and put much better quality images on the page than those from HD trailers, so just wait a little. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Spider Man==
I own all of the Spider Mans on DVD, so if you don't do two, I'll take care of it later. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Lisle202==
Ha ha, Sie sind lustig. Englisch Diese Worte sind schwer zu sagen. Talk to you yesterday. - [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]] 16:26, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== RPK or RPD? ==
I think it may be an RPK since in the first shot the gun doesn't have that Square shaped hand guard that the RPD has. But in the second shot we see that it has an hooded front sight. I don't think the RPK has an hooded front sight. The RPD does however has one. It could be both. The guns coulda been switched. Sorry, i can't help.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Because i love this website ==
And i love editing wikis. I love wikipedia in general. Also, what Vietnam Scene are you talking about? The one in Wolverine?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Flintlock Pistols and Rifles ==
Thanks for adding in the info on the pages!. It must be noted that these weapons may be hard to identify as they didnt have the same standards those days as many were made by various makers. The rifle image you uploaded is actually a percussion cap rifle of similar appearence that was made during the very early 19th century.

PS: I lost connection with the internet, sorry for leaving the page blank.

[[User:Cutaway|Cutaway]] 16:23PM, 31/07/2009 (UTC)

==Announcement:1==
I posted a picture of a sporterized Mauser Gewehr 1898 by accident so I'm not sure if it will be approved or not. Also it's was meant for Public Enemies,not for the entier pages. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I reverted it back, if you want upload the sporter version, put it under a different file name thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Fixed it, and uploaded your image seperately. Anyway, what's the difference between the the regular Mauser Gewehr 1898 and the sporterized version?.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Lois & Clark==

Hi,

I've watched a handful of episodes of ''[[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman|Lois and Clark]]'' on YouTube, and I've noticed you really made quite a few mistakes regarding the guns which appear in the show, which makes me suspicious of some of the other guns you IDed. Among those I've noticed so far:

* (1.) There is no Beretta 92F in the Pilot, and you missed out on the only two guns which DID appear in that episode - a S&W 3913 "Ladysmith" and an Uzi.
* (2.) Lex's pistol in "Requiem for a Superhero" is not a gold Desert Eagle. It's some type of revolver (I can't tell what kind), and it's unlikely that the Mark XIX variant of the Desert Eagle appears in any episodes of the show because this version was not introduced until 1995.
* (3.) None of the robbers in "Fly Hard" use MP5 variants. They use Glock 17s, MAC-10s, Ruger Mini-14s with Muzzelite bullpup stocks, and a pistol-grip shotgun that appears to be a Mossberg 500 Persuader. Off the top of my head, I can recall one episode of the show where an MP5 was used in a drive-by shooting, but I can't remember which one (I only remember that it involved the annoying and trigger-happy super woman).
* (4.) I have no idea if the Colt Model 733 is in "Barbarians at the Planet", but I have seen XM177s in a couple other episodes, so it's most likely that those are what you saw. The Model 733 isn't the only CAR-15 variant that existed before the M4.

I realize you may be more into guns from 1914-1975, so what I would recommend is that you post more screencaps if you have them and maybe we can help out more with the guns. There's nothing wrong with being unsure about certain guns, but it's best if you just admit this on the page instead of stating something that's incorrect. That way, other people who have seen the show can make a positive ID later. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Announcement 1 ==

Thanks for the great info Kenny, I will probably find it useful someday. By the way, sorry if I was a little harsh when I reverted the image last night, I didn't know it was an accidental overwrite until afterwards.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== KENNY!!! ==
Stop edting that Thing Thing 2 article and tag it so the Admins can delete it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:Okay then. I'm not angry. I'm annoyed. Besides, this week we alredy had a Thing Thing 1 page. It got deleted.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Colt 1895 Machine gun ==
I already built a page for that machine gun a few months ago. Here it is [[Colt 1895 Automatic Machine Gun]] --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Colt ==
It wasn't used by the US armed forces until the 1980s i think. So no.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

==re: Lois and Clark==

The YouTube video is too blurry to be sure, but I doubt it's a 1st Generation Glock 17. The Glock didn't start to appear in movies until around 1990, and by then, the 2nd Generation models had been available for several years. Personally, I would like to get rid of the Gen 1 Glock image from the Glock 17 page, because unless anyone has proof otherwise, it's safe to assume most Glocks in movies/TV shows are 2nd Generation models. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:He's probably right about the S&W 3913. But personally, I don't think that a gun deserves a different entry just because of its slide markings (otherwise, we'd have to give the Beretta 92F and M9 different entries, which is something that I have already opposed and told IMFDB members ''not'' to do). Also, here are some other things I've noticed:

:(1.) The MP5A3s are not the "Navy" version; they seem to have the SEF lower receivers. Might want to replace the A3 Navy picture with one of the other A3 pictures.
:(2.) The Desert Eagle used by Ari is probably not a Mark XIX, because the Mark XIX wasn't around when that episode aired. It's more likely the older Mark I or Mark VII, one of those two.
:(3.) We have a picture of a Mini-14 with a Muzzelite stock, so ditch the picture of the regular Mini-14 and replace it.
:(4.) One other request...do you mind adding another picture of Lex's Beretta 92FS Inox? The picture of him putting it in the case is a little blurry; you should add a picture of him checking the chamber (which occurs only a few seconds earlier).

:That's all I see for now. Anything else I can help with? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Here is what I had in mind:

::[[Image:LC1x20-Inox-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

::He briefly checks the chamber, lets the slide release, then puts it in the case. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Scardino's revolver==

[[Image:revolverlc.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Scardino aims his revolver at Lois and Clark for disguising themselves as workers, but lets them go.]]
[[Image:revolverlc2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lois uses Scardino's revolver to stop McCarthy from killing Scardino.]]

I'm pretty sure that this is a [[Ruger GP100|Ruger GP101]]. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

:All of them seem to have the forward assist, so they're M16A1s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==RE Steamboy==
Just a preference, sort of like how some people don't like rap music.
I liked Spirited Away, but thats about it. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

==Re: pistol==

Looks to me like a [[SIG-Sauer P230]]. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

*(1.) I'm not sure what the golden pistol is. It's not seen clearly enough to tell much. But it's definitely way too small to be a Desert Eagle, as the page used to say.
*(2.) Yes, you are correct, there does appear to be an MP5K in the background of that picture.
*(3.) Crysis is full of shit, and I explained why on the page.
*(4.) The weapon is indeed a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun, but I'm not sure what kind. Double-barrel shotguns are very hard to tell apart. Most of us just link to the [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] page and post the gun we ''think'' it might be, but it's often very hard for us to tell, so we rarely bother.

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks so much! Great to see that this exists. The YouTube videos were, unfortunately, kind of limited, but it's great to see that it's available elsewhere. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

==Making Franken gun pics==
It's frowned upon, especially by me. i.e. taking my original pics and photoshopping them into other configurations. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==The Brothers Bloom==
I would say its possibly a FEG clone of a hi-power, but I'm probably wrong -[[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]]

==RERE==
Here, you couldn't find it because it was listed under "Browning BDA"
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Browning_BDA --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==RE Time Crisis==
Nope, I've never played it -but looking at the symbol for the "MSG0-90" in the game it looks more like an AR-15 with an MSG-90 fore end. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:12, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==The Glock 17L in "Tempus Fugitive"==

It isn't converted to a machine pistol. The gun store owner says it's a ''semi''-automatic, which means it's '''not''' a machine pistol. He also calls the bullets "puppies", not "poopies". I corrected the entry and also added another picture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

:I will try, but unfortunately, I'm in graduate school now, and those bastards make absolutely sure we have too much work to have much fun. Which means, sadly, less time to watch old TV shows on YouTube. Also, I have another project - ''[[Level 9]]'' - in the works right now which is consuming most of the time I do spend working on IMFDB. But I will try to help whenever possible. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

==George of the Jungle==
You can do whatever you want, the movie has guns and is thus allowed on IMFDb. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I deleted it because it was a low effort page that wasn't considered site worthy in its current condition. With screencaps, gun images, links, and a poster the page is considered complete so is allowed. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Is it neccessary to screencap some of Wolverine? I can put out higher definition images so shouldn't I just do it? I already have everything saved. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Nam M1903s ==
Makes sense. Thanks for the information.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Whew==

The sniper rifle looks to be a Ruger Model 77, but I'm not sure.

As for the guns in the water fountain, the gun next to the AR-15 HBAR is an Uzi (you already documented its appearance in the same episode). The nickel-plated shotgun appears to be a Winchester of some type, but I'm not sure about that one, either. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:37, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

:Sci-fi guns are only allowed on IMFDB if there is proof that they are based on existing guns (for instance, the M41 pulse rifle from ''[[Aliens]]'' was based on an M1A1 Thompson submachine gun, so that is a sci-fi gun which we do allow). I will have to watch "Double Jeopardy" again to see if that gun was based on a real weapon, but I don't think it was. I may be wrong because it's been a long time since I've seen that episode.

:Also, I have some more guns I've spotted after watching a few of the other episodes:

:(1.) None of the Nazis in "Super Mann" use Walther PPKs; the pistols they all carry are P38Ks. The exception is the head Nazi (can't remember his name) who shoots Hank West - he uses a Heckler & Koch USP.

:(2.) There are a LOT of guns in "Tempus, Anyone?" Besides the Desert Eagle Mark VII that Tempus himself carries (I got pictures for that one already), I spotted several M16A1s, a Galil AR, a Remington 870, a Ruger Mini-14, more Glocks and Beretta 92Fs, and a nickel Walther PPK that Tempus himself carries in the end.

:(3.) In the episode "Target: Jimmy Olsen", the first assassin (Malloy, or whatever his name was) carried a CAR-15 variant, which I think was a Colt Model 653.

:(4.) In "Super Mann", the supermodel Nazi chick used another Chinese Type 69 RPG, though the warhead on it was clearly fake.

:I'll watch some more later and see what I find. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:01, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

::Sounds good! There's a lot more weapons in that season, I am sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:49, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:::That's not a Gold Cup National Match; it doesn't have the target sights. It's a regular Colt MK IV Series 70, I think. Judging by the size of the bore, it's also the 9mm model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

==RE Australia (2008)==
You may be right, however I am not confident enough in it to put it in myself. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:14, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==

No, the guy in the picture you posted is holding a Ruger Mini-14 rifle. I'll have to watch the episode again, but I remember the Galil was seen earlier in the episode when H.G. Wells was showing Lois around the city. A guy took the Galil out of the trunk of his car. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

==Re:Ninja Assassin==
i did thanks a lot its great [[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]

==User 67.183.66.44==
Uh, he hasn't been back since he got a temporary ban back in Feb. So you're talking to thin air. Sorry. :) He was notorious for making bad changes to pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
==Terence Stamp==
Wouldn't it be better to have a pic of himself in action on his page than someone else?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:WantedBeretta92S-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:LM-SW586-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:A pic of him from [[Wanted]] wouldn't be bad, but there isn't a good shot of him with his gun in that film. Since you're the author of his page I figure I would make the suggestion rather than just changing it myself.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

==RE:Carbines, Repeating Rifles==

Good questions. Here's my take:

* (1.) Yes, carbines and lever-action repeating rifles should go under "rifles." And to answer (3.), yes, carbines are a type of rifle.

* (2.) As for the [[Ruger Mini-14]], that is a gray area. If you ask Ruger, they will vehemently deny that the Mini-14 is an "assault rifle". They sucked up to the Brady Bunch in order to prevent the Mini-14 from being banned as an "assault rifle" during the 1990s when the Assault Weapon Ban was being debated in Congress. So officially, the Mini-14 has never been classified as an "assault rifle" by law (and Ruger removed the flash hider and bayonet lug to keep it that way). But most gun owners in America think it's absurd that the Mini-14 is not an assault rifle, but an AR-15 is, since for all practical purposes, both guns do almost the same things. My personal take on it is that because the Mini-14 isn't a "military-style" weapon, it shouldn't be called an assault rifle, but that's a question of aesthetics. So long story short, I would probably just put it under "Rifles", not "Assault Rifles."

Hope that helps you. Also, the gun that you identified as a SIG-Sauer P226 is actually a S&W auto of some sort. I think it's a [[Smith & Wesson 5906]], or maybe a 659 (hard to tell). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:34, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Real-time strategy games==

Yeah, they're allowed, if they have guns that are recognizable as real guns. But I'd have to see to be sure. I actually did some work on the page for ''[[Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2]]'' myself, though that game's a bit different because we were IDing the guns seen in the FMV cutscenes, not the game itself. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

==Night at the Museum==
Great work on the page!!!. But "Pshaw!" why did you not bother to identify the Pattern 1777 French Charleville Muskets used by the Napoleonic Soldiers? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Reply ==
...I Didn't

[[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]

==To Kenny==
Moviemaster1993, being the douchebag that he is, was replying to your question as to why he was impersonating an 'official' Transformers site, which he obviously was. He also just replied to me "Hahahaha you hate me don't you?" even though he does not understand the gravity of the situation. Illegal postings of pirate images (especially from a major studio) is very dangerous as you well know and this guy just doesn't seem to get it. He is banned permanently. He is exposing our entire site to being shut down on legal grounds, and he's an abrasive member to boot. If you think I am overreacting, let me know :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

==Recommend you check Star Wars talk page==

I notce you have been doing a lot of work on the ''[[Star Wars]]'' page. I recommend you check the latest addition to the talk page. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 16:42, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== Vampires Suck ==
Yes, you're probably right about how it's not a good idea to make a one-gun page. I support the deletion of it. --[[User:Redram355|redram355]] 23:16, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
==delete images and pages==
I'll go through all of them when I get more time later on today.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

==M3 Carbine pic==
Yep, I liked Kin93's big pic of the gun better than the one I had. The one I had was not my pic but a fixed version of the previous crappy pic. The previous version was tilted at a weird angle. All I did was straighten it and re-upload the crap picture. I welcomed a new version of that gun. But then I saw that you realized that he was not overwriting an original MPM picture, which is usually a good photo! LOL :) BTW, thanks. You're looking out for my pics which is appreciated none the less. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
::Again, I appreciated MORE the fact that you were being protective of the original MPM pics, which is a good thing! LOL. Of course we both agree that replacing a crappy jacked pic is preferred. No one I know has that M3 setup any more anyway. Those things went the way of the dinosaur back in the early 1980s. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Saving Private Ryan ==

I've replaced the images with new desaturated versions. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

==My screencaps?==
Not sure what you mean. Which ones? Ben41 has access to more Blueray DVDs than I do, so I'm alittle confused. Usually his shots are better. The only time I do better is when there is a HIGH DEF trailer. I download the 1080i Version and capture that at maximum scan on a Mac Pro Tower with a HUGE cinema flatscreen display and then crop and adjust in Photoshop. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:02, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==uploading images==
When you upload a file, you can add <nowiki>[[Category:Screenshot]]</nowiki> in the summary section, rather than edit it every time. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:40, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yes.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:03, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Hi. About screencappin'... ==

Hi!
I was just wondering, how do you take you're screenshots? Do you take screencaps from DVD's or BLU-Ray's? What kind of program do you use? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 19:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Okay, I myself use VLC player for both DVD & BLU-Ray... and Gimp 2 for editing, if necessary. But anyways, the reason I asked is your screencaps. You said you screencap mostly from DVD's. How come the screencaps are so big then? Do you blow them up with a picture tool? Most DVD's only give out small (about 700 pixels or 800 pixels, give or take), but your screencaps are (randomly) anywhere from 1,017 pixels to 1873 pixels. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:26, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but you shouldn't do that. I mean of course, you should take screencaps, as we need them, screencaps make a page look good and professional. ''However''... you shouldn't drag the sides of the WMP to make the images bigger. You're only stretching them, not actually improving the quality of the images. I mean when you blow them up, they look pixelated, and unclear. You're actually making the worse. If you wanna get better (and bigger) images, I suggest you get BLU-Rays and screencap them, as they are already more sharp and of better quality. But if not, DVD's are fine, most people screencap off of them. But yeah, treat DVD's as DVD's and HD as HD. Even though you're using WMP, I suggest you try VLC again, after downloading and installing some ''codecs'' (Try K-Lite codec pack). You might not have the proper codecs for VLC to run your DVD's. Again, I don't wanna sound rude or aggressive, and I'm sorry if I did. Cheers, and thanks mate. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:42, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

== No problem ==

No problem, man. And again, sorry if I sounded aggressive. I'm usually pretty straight-forward though ;) --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:54, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

== Re: Crysis 2 ==

I'm stuck behind a proxy, so online gaming is a no-go. I'll visit a relative with a decent internet connection though, albeit for only 2 days. No idea if I try it out then. Oh, and the Jackal screenshot IS from the Nanosuit Progression Trailer. Go through it frame by frame and you'll see it. Whoever edited the thing must have accidentaly left it in. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

== Deleted Images ==

Unfortunately, there is a bug in the software that doesn't allow anyone to delete images right now. For some reason, when you're on an image page, the site doesn't recognize that you're logged in. I've informed Bunni about it. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:35, 11 March 2011 (MSK)

==Re: Help identifying vehicles==

The vehicles in the screenshots you showed me are as follows:

[[Image:Apache?-P4F.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mi-28 Havoc]]
[[Image:tank-P4f.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAV-25 APC (note the twin TOW launchers on either side of the turret are incorrect for the real LAV-25)]]
[[Image:tank2-P4f.jpg|thumb|none|600px|BTR-90 APC (again, this vehicle does not have missile armament in real life)]]
[[Image:jet-P4f.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two F-35 Lightning II's with a MiG-29 Fulcrum behind them]]

Hope this helps. On the subject of ''BF: Play4Free'', is the game officially released yet, or is it still in beta stage? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:28, 24 March 2011 (CDT)

== X-Men Origins: Wolverine - Anachronisms ==

Thanks for the improvements Kenny, I was about to do that myself. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 02:51, 6 April 2011 (CDT)

== RE Militia ==
The Screencaps are from Verizon Fios TV Online, not a DVD. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:56, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

== Tremors BluRay ==

Thanks for asking ahead of time. When I use VLC, I add a little bit more sharpness to the shots. I would request before you start overwriting all of them, that you would do one or two because I would like to compare. I think it's better to actually overwrite an existing pic instead of uploading completely new ones because you can see what the older pics look like compare to the new ones. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 20:53, 1 July 2011 (CDT)

The screenshot looks great. Go ahead. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:11, 1 July 2011 (CDT)

== Aliens blu-ray ==

Please check the dimensions on the screenshots. The ones that are at 853x480 are from the DVD and can be replaced. There are a few from the Blu-ray and do not need to be replaced. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 13:44, 11 August 2011 (CDT)

== Image uploading ==

It takes a few minutes to a few hours for the cache to update the thumbnails. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:12, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

== JD0556 ==

I'm not welcoming him at all, I'm just letting know him isn't accomplishing anything. First sign of trouble, he's gone. Trust me, I'm not on his side for anything, I don't like him anymore then you do, I'm just toying with him, and keeping him busy.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:55, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, sorry it seemed that way. Trust me, I would never welcome any vandal to this site. I might have talked some sense into him though, but who knows, I don't trust him. He is going to be monitored though, so again sorry for any confusion.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:07, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

So what are you saying? I'm not trying to be friends with him or anything, I just didn't want to block him straight away until he did something, I'm just trying to talk some sense into him. I'm just really tired of seeing all that vandalism every other day, and I was the one who had to delete all of it last time. --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:32, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, I can't believe how calm he actually was, I was expecting a long line of rants. Well, he may actually leave us alone this time, I haven't had any messages from him in the past half hour. I'll let the other admins know so he is kept underwatch. Thanks for your concern.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:46, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

The ones that are still on this site? I'm not so sure about them. I know he uploaded them onto his Movie Weapon Wiki, but I'm not worried about that. If you want to know my opinion, I would rather just delete them, I really don't like the idea of them remaining on the site if they are a copyright violation. Should I discuss this on the Transformers 3 talk page, or just get rid of them?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:00, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, I guess we should discuss it first. I'm sure MPM2008 will respond to you eventually, but he's not the quickest one to reply since he is so busy. I'll ask them what they think should happen to them. What about the ones uploaded by Commando552? Are they from Imdb or some other known source?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:26, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

Okay, thanks. Just wanted to make sure. Likewise.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:32, 8 September 2011 (CDT)

YEah, I saw Ben41's comments, and hopefully he'll leave us alone now. I have also read MoviePropMasters reply, and I would say he knows the best thing to do in this matter. Hopefully once the dvd comes out, we'll be in the clear.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 14:00, 10 September 2011 (CDT)

==Transformers BTS==
Sorry for the delay. Yes, we still have the images on our server, but since the film was released in theaters, I don't believe that changes the legal status of the pics. From what I gather, they were telephoto paparazzi photos of actors on the set. Not officially released but taken by a fan. Now this happens all the time and publications like the National Enquirer print stuff like that, all the time as well. I hope to get all the images we need from the officially released DVD/BluRay since that is an actual release. We may allow some of the pics, but I would be a lot calmer about the entire scenario when the film is available on DVD/Bluray. The mods may discuss this, but I tend to be very cautious when it comes to any activity that may bring IMFDB under the scrutiny of Major Motion Picture Studio lawyers. Trans 3 is such a high profile film and IMFDB is growing in stature within the industry itself. I would hate to have us get tainted in any way by any 'take down order' by the studio lawyers. But then I'm super cautious when dealing with certain entities in the business. But I'm not 100% against the images either. Perhaps the nature of the source of the images, someone whom we believe to be 'not entirely stable' also taints the images. '''You stated that the facebook account was suddenly deleted. Would this indicate some LEGAL action by the studio?''' I fear so. So if you're asking my opinion, I would rather wait than risk doing anything to piss off the studios. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:53, 9 September 2011 (CDT)

== Forum ==

Thank you for your reply. Hopefully over time I will be allowed to join the forums.

== Cadet Programs ==

It is nice to see another young person interested in the military. I am in US Army JROTC and and the Civil Air Patrol cadet program. Is this your first year?--[[User:Mpe2010|Mpe2010]] 22:18, 25 September 2011 (CDT)

Yes we do all kind of community service from picking up parks along the river to cleaning the stands after the football games. We also have a color guard team, a drill team, a rifle team, and a raider team that specializes in the Army Physical Fitness Test.--[[User:Mpe2010|Mpe2010]] 16:37, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

We each get two uniforms, the ACU and the Class A green uniform. On Thursdays we wear the dress uniform and and we wear the ACU's for just about everything else but Drill Team and Color Guard. Our PT uniform is the grey t-shirt with ARMY across the front and black shorts. We alternate between running and doing calisthenics (pushups, situps, pullups, etc) on Fridays. Occasionally we do rifle PT where we use deactivated 1903 Springfields. I don't know if it is fair to say that MCJROTC is more disciplined because between the multiple Marine Corp, Army, and Air Force (no Navy around here) JROTC units that I have seen, the level of discipline is more up to how disciplined the instructors want it to be. I have seen numerous Marine Corp, Army, and Air Force units that had very low amounts of discipline and could use more. I am a Staff Sergeant and am a squad leader in my company. In class, We go over the Army's structure, leadership skills, and opportunities that are available in the military. What do you in MCJROTC? --[[User:Mpe2010|Mpe2010]] 17:23, 28 September 2011 (CDT)
== Talk Pages ==
I'm new to IMFDB and I don't know how to find the talk page to rely to the help Kenny gave me. Is the Discussion page the talk page?

==RE:==
Ok, I will not upload and replace any images,i can even leave this resource if everyone do not like me! But tell me at the last,is some of my images are not better than the previous? Like:MP-412 REX,AEK-971 prototype,Mk 14 Mod 1 EBR and SVU Dragunov images ! I just wanted to do some better.
Sorry for bad english.Goodbye,with love from Siberia ! Счастливо оставаться ! [[User:Solar|Solar]]
:I don't know very well English but in general terms I understand you, comrade))From now I will not upload anything on this resource. I will use it only for informational purposes.- [[User:Solar|Solar]]

== One firearm pages ==

Like it says on the [[Rules, Standards and Principles]] page, exception are made if the weapon is onscreen long enough to wonder what kind of weapon it is (thus [[Alien 3]] and [[Yes Man]] would qualify). If the page is well done (weapon description is detailed and several good screenshots are provided) and properly formatted, it stands a strong chance of not getting deleted. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:10, 4 October 2011 (CDT)

== Black Hawk Down ==

Unless you have a Blu ray copy of the film, I would suggest not overwriting the images. Usually movies downloaded from Itunes are not in the full HD resolution as on blu ray copies. I will go through and redo some of the oversaturated images. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:14, 9 October 2011 (CDT)

I took a look at the thumbnail version of your screenshots, and they're pretty good. The only way you can really tell the difference is when you blow them up to the full resolution (there's a lack of grain from HD streaming sources). Since that's not the way most people will view them, go ahead and replace the ones that were originally at DVD resolution or lower. I would only ask that you don't overwrite the one's I've already bumped up to HD. The ones for the DsHK and grenade sections are actually from an HDTV broadcast that has more visual information at the top and bottom, so please don't overwrite these. Typically, if the resolution appears to 1920 x 1080, that's the highest resolution from Blu-ray, but it runs very slow on my computer at that resolution. I usually put them from my blu-ray to my computer and then reduce them in resolution using various programs in order to view them on other computers without a slowdown. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:28, 10 October 2011 (CDT)

I'll go look for the shots that I didn't already write over, but I already gave you the reason why I don't want those other shots removed. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 20:17, 12 October 2011 (CDT)

== Spammers ==

Thanks for the list, I've banned atleast a few of them. I saw the pattern in thier names and figured I'll just get rid of them right when I see them to prevent them from doing anything. As for the format of their names, they must be coming from a single bot or something automated, I'll keep watching for more as I go.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:00, 16 October 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, I saw him and his many accounts last night. Honestly, I do not see why he makes such a big deal over this site, if you noticed, the admins left him alone for nearly too months and he doesn't do anything on Imfdb besides a small correction on the AK-47 page, I don't understand why he bothers. Hey, I tried to help him, but now that he's back to his old habits, there's no going back.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:27, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

== Image size ==

Actually, Bunni has said full HD screenshots are ok and the image size limit is now 2 megs, which mine are less than a quarter of. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:12, 12 November 2011 (CST)
:Don't cut the M240, it's still in the game in the flashback to "No Russian" (there's an image right there on the page). Also, keep the MP5K, it did appear in pre-release materials and those still count. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:57, 12 November 2011 (CST)
::Minor correction: size limit is ''one'' meg, not 2. Don't know where I got 2. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:28, 18 November 2011 (CST)

== MW3 ==

Please stop uploading things, I have all of these. I have a thousand images to sort through, it takes a while. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:04, 13 November 2011 (CST)

:Well, if you replace them I'm only going to end up replacing them again; just don't want you wasting your time. You ''can'', however, fix the descriptions if you like, since I'm not going to do much of that until I'm done replacing the images. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:11, 13 November 2011 (CST)

== Battle LA ==
I did manufacture some items for Battle LA and also worked on the re-shoot of the ending sequence but I was not the armorer for the film. That entire move except for the re-shoot was done in Louisiana with several top LA armorers and the Technical Adviser on the film was a former Marine with a number of films to his credit --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 19:22, 17 November 2011 (CST)

== Re: Blu-Ray codecs for VLC ==

Yes, that's easy (most of the time): [http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_play_m2ts_files.cfm| see this].
You can use that guide to open Blu-Rays with VLC, but beware, doesn't work on every Blu-Ray.

Most of the time I use a software (such as AnyDVD) to rip the Blu-Ray onto my external hard drive. After that I usually compress the 1080p film into a smaller 720p file (which is still above standard DVD quality), since my laptop is 4 years old now and lags a bit when i watch/screencap movies. For some pages, (like [[Heat]] or [[Collateral]], for instance) I am willing to go trough the countless delays in playback after I take a screencap, but for most films am not.

Hope this helps you. Oh, and sorry for the late reply.

Cheers, --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 14:38, 21 November 2011 (CST)

== Third person ==

I'm not a fan of those, simply because they're not what the game actually looks like. I'll try to get the equivalent scenes in actual gameplay. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:23, 27 November 2011 (CST)

:The current images are placeholders to get rid of that cropped image. It's fantastically boring to look at. If you click on those images it's more than clear what's what. As for third-person, you can get plenty of good images of enemies holding weapons in first person, with the benefit that it's what the game actually looks like; it's also not strictly necessary to have a third-person image of every gun unless there's something interesting to point out about the third-person model or someone important uses it.

:You can't really say an image is "in game" when it doesn't look like anything that can actually happen in the game itself. First person images are also better because things tend to actually be happening in them. Here, some examples.

:[[Image:MW1-Shipunov-Placeholder.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the mission "Safehouse" MacTavish can call upon the services of an Mi-28 "Havoc" gunship to provide fire with missiles and its Shipunov 2A42 autocannon.]]
:[[Image:Mi-28-CoD4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Mi-28 Havoc flies overhead with a chin-mounted Shipunov 2A42 in "One Shot, One Kill".]]

:The first image has the advantages that it's the Havoc (a) in the game itself and (b) actually doing something.

:[[Image:MW1-M197-PlaceholderA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-1W Super Cobra comes to Jackson's assistance at the end of the mission "The Bog."]]
:[[Image:MW1-M197-PlaceholderB.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pelayo's Super Cobra goes down after taking a hit to the tail rotor in the mission "Shock And Awe."]]
:[[Image:Cobraheli-CoD4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two AH-1W Super Cobras provides air support for the U.S. Marines with its M197 Vulcan cannon in "The Bog".]]

:Again, the first two images are from a viewpoint the player can actually achieve in the game itself; this means you're more accurate in telling people which mission it happens in because these scenes ''do'' happen in those missions. The third-person version never happens at all; without console codes the player will never see these things from those angles. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:17, 28 November 2011 (CST)

== Matrix screenshots ==

Are you planning on replacing all the screenshots for ''[[The Matrix]]''? I would discourage this because there isn't much of a difference between your HD shots and the ones I've already done and I don't want you to waste your time redoing shots that would result in only a marginal difference in quality. There are still a few DVD screenshots that were not redone by me on the page, so my advice would be to concentrate on those. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:10, 5 December 2011 (CST)

== Rush Hour ==

If you are going to contest something that is on the page, do so on the discussion page, not on the main page. Also, include images to backup what you are saying. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:50, 10 March 2012 (CST)

can you believe that bane gets blown up by Selena Kyle on the Batpod, mirander tate/taliah Al ghul gets killed in a truck crash after stabbing batman in the side. and batman carries the nuclear bomb to safety jumping out of the bat (plane) and emigrates to florence with selena kyle. :~OOOOOO i know right!!!!--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:08, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

The Dark Knight Rises

2012-07-21T01:45:39Z

Pistolpete:

{{upcoming}}

{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = The Dark Knight Rises
|picture = TDKR.jpg
|caption = ''The Dark Knight Rises (2012)''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|director = Christopher Nolan
|date= 2012
|studio=Warner Brothers Pictures Legendary Pictures DC Entertainment
|distributor=Warner Brothers Pictures
|character1=Bruce Wayne/Batman
|actor1=[[Christian Bale]]
|character2=Bane
|actor2=[[Tom Hardy]]
|character3=Selina Kyle/Catwoman
|actor3=[[Anne Hathaway]]
|character4=John Blake
|actor4=[[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]
|character5=Jim Gordon
|actor5=[[Gary Oldman]]
|character6=Alfred
|actor6=[[Michael Caine]]
|character7=Lucius Fox
|actor7=[[Morgan Freeman]]
|character8=Miranda Tate
|actor8=[[Marion Cotillard]]
}}
'''The Dark Knight Rises''' is the third and final installment in director [[Christopher Nolan]]'s trilogy of Batman films. The 2012 sequel finds Bruce Wayne, now a recluse, contemplating a return to his role as Batman as a mercenary leader named Bane ([[Tom Hardy]]) threatens the citizens of Gotham City.

{{Spoilers}}

'''The following weapons will appear in the film ''The Dark Knight Rises'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
== Beretta 92FS ==
The [[Beretta 92FS]] is the sidearm of several Gotham City Police officers.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS 9mm]]

== CZ 75B ==
The [[CZ 75B]] appears to be the weapon wielded by Selina Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]).
[[Image:Cz75b9mm.jpg|thumb|300px|none|CZ 75B - 9mm]]
[[File:catwomanandguns.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Selina Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]) holds the pistol as she disarms an assailant of his suppressed Glock.]]

== Glock 17 ==
Another CIA operative draws a [[Glock 17]] when their plane is skyjacked by Bane's men. GCPD Officer John Blake ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) is seen drawing a Glock 17.

[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Generation 2 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:JGLTDKR412-fin.jpg|thumb|none|351px|A production image of Officer John Blake ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) with a Glock 17 in hand.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The [[SIG-Sauer P226]] is carried by Commissioner Gordon ([[Gary Oldman]]) as his personal sidearm. Selena Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]) is seen using a SIG-Sauer 226 as well.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9mm.]]

[[File:DKR-P226-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Commissioner Gordon ([[Gary Oldman]]) searches a building with his P226 drawn.]]
[[File:DKR-P226-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Gordon takes cover after an explosion occurs with his P226 in hand.]]

== Heckler & Koch USP Compact ==
A CIA operative ([[Aidan Gillen]]) uses a [[Heckler & Koch USP Compact]] in the film's prologue.

[[Image:Usp compact 3.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Heckler & Koch USP Compact - 9x19mm]]

=Submachine Guns=

==Heckler & Koch MP5A2==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]s are seen carried by GCPD SWAT officers.

[[Image:SWATMP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 - 9mm.]]
[[File:DKR-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A GCPD SWAT officer in the background wields a MP5A2.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]s are also seen carried by GCPD SWAT officers.

[[File:HKmp5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9mm.]]
[[File:DKR-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A GCPD SWAT officer in the foreground wields a MP5A3.]]

==IMI Mini UZI==
[[Mini Uzi]]s are used by Bane's men when they skyjack the CIA plane in mid-air during the prologue.
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mini Uzi w/folding stock 9x19mm]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5KA4==
When Special Forces soldiers disguised as relief workers attempt to form a resistance inside the besieged Gotham City they are seen using [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|H&K MP5KA4]]s attaiched to shoulder slings under their jackets.
[[Image:MP5KA4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5KA4- 9x19mm]]

=Rifles=

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
[[Heckler & Koch G36C]]s are the main weapons used by Bane's ([[Tom Hardy]]) men. Some of the CIA agents in the beginning of the film are also seen with G36Cs as well. Deputy Commissioner Foley ([[Matthew Modine]]) also fires a G36C near the end of the film during the climatic brawl between GCPD and Bane's Army.
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bane's mercenaries hold G36Cs while leading a jailbreak.]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A mercenary fires a G36C into the air.]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Foley fires a G36C.]]

==AKMS==
Several prisoners are seen carrying [[AKMS]] rifles when they break out of jail.
[[File:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[File:DKR-AKMS-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bane watches as escaped prisoners wave AKMS rifles.]]

==AKM==
A mercenary fires an [[AKM]] before being attacked by Batman.

[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:DKR-AKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The mercenary fires an AKM.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==
One of the militia men who gives the three "prisoners" to the CIA operative carries a [[Norinco Type 56-1]] during the film's prologue.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Norinco Type 56-1 - 7.62x39mm]]

== Mk. 18 Mod 0 ==
[[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]s are carried by two of the CIA agents on the extraction team in the prologue.
[[Image:Mk18SpecializedArmaments.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mk. 18 Mod 0 - 5.56x45mm]]

=Shotguns=

==Remington 870==
The [[Remington 870]] is seen as the standard shotgun of the Gotham City Police Department. John Black ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) is seen clearing a hallway with a Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot shotgun.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]‎

==Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)==
[[Image:Stevens_311_(Sawed_Off).jpg|thumb|left|400px|Stevens 311R (sawed-off) - 12 gauge]]
The [[Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)]]is used by one of Bane's soldiers and Bane [[Tom Hardy]] himself.

=Sniper Rifles=
==Barrett M107==
When GCPD SWAT teams engage Bane's men in the alleyway shootout scene. Bane's second in command ([[Josh Stewart]]) uses a [[Barrett M107]] and takes down a number of GCPD SWAT Officers allowing his fellow cronies to escape.
[[Image:Berrett M107.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Barrett M107 long range sniper rifle - .50 BMG.]]

=Machine Guns=

==Browning M2HB==
[[Browning M2HB]] heavy machine guns are mounted atop of mercenary pickup trucks.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]

==Other==
==EMP Weapon==
One of the weapons wielded by Batman is what appears to be a rifle that fires EMP pulses to disable vehicles.
[[File:DKR-Weapon-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Batman wields the EMP rifle.]]

{{Batman Series}}

[[Category:Movie|Batman 7]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Christopher Nolan]]

The Dark Knight Rises

2012-07-21T01:44:56Z

Pistolpete:

{{upcoming}}

{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = The Dark Knight Rises
|picture = TDKR.jpg
|caption = ''The Dark Knight Rises (2012)''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|director = Christopher Nolan
|date= 2012
|studio=Warner Brothers Pictures Legendary Pictures DC Entertainment
|distributor=Warner Brothers Pictures
|character1=Bruce Wayne/Batman
|actor1=[[Christian Bale]]
|character2=Bane
|actor2=[[Tom Hardy]]
|character3=Selina Kyle/Catwoman
|actor3=[[Anne Hathaway]]
|character4=John Blake
|actor4=[[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]
|character5=Jim Gordon
|actor5=[[Gary Oldman]]
|character6=Alfred
|actor6=[[Michael Caine]]
|character7=Lucius Fox
|actor7=[[Morgan Freeman]]
|character8=Miranda Tate
|actor8=[[Marion Cotillard]]
}}
'''The Dark Knight Rises''' is the third and final installment in director [[Christopher Nolan]]'s trilogy of Batman films. The 2012 sequel finds Bruce Wayne, now a recluse, contemplating a return to his role as Batman as a mercenary leader named Bane ([[Tom Hardy]]) threatens the citizens of Gotham City.

{{Spoilers}}

'''The following weapons will appear in the film ''The Dark Knight Rises'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
== Beretta 92FS ==
The [[Beretta 92FS]] is the sidearm of several Gotham City Police officers.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS 9mm]]

== CZ 75B ==
The [[CZ 75B]] appears to be the weapon wielded by Selina Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]).
[[Image:Cz75b9mm.jpg|thumb|300px|none|CZ 75B - 9mm]]
[[File:catwomanandguns.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Selina Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]) holds the pistol as she disarms an assailant of his suppressed Glock.]]

== Glock 17 ==
Another CIA operative draws a [[Glock 17]] when their plane is skyjacked by Bane's men. GCPD Officer John Blake ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) is seen drawing a Glock 17.

[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Generation 2 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:JGLTDKR412-fin.jpg|thumb|none|351px|A production image of Officer John Blake ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) with a Glock 17 in hand.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The [[SIG-Sauer P226]] is carried by Commissioner Gordon ([[Gary Oldman]]) as his personal sidearm. Selena Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]) is seen using a SIG-Sauer 226 as well.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9mm.]]

[[File:DKR-P226-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Commissioner Gordon ([[Gary Oldman]]) searches a building with his P226 drawn.]]
[[File:DKR-P226-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Gordon takes cover after an explosion occurs with his P226 in hand.]]

== Heckler & Koch USP Compact ==
A CIA operative ([[Aidan Gillen]]) uses a [[Heckler & Koch USP Compact]] in the film's prologue.

[[Image:Usp compact 3.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Heckler & Koch USP Compact - 9x19mm]]

=Submachine Guns=

==Heckler & Koch MP5A2==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]s are seen carried by GCPD SWAT officers.

[[Image:SWATMP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 - 9mm.]]
[[File:DKR-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A GCPD SWAT officer in the background wields a MP5A2.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]s are also seen carried by GCPD SWAT officers.

[[File:HKmp5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9mm.]]
[[File:DKR-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A GCPD SWAT officer in the foreground wields a MP5A3.]]

==IMI Mini UZI==
[[Mini Uzi]]s are used by Bane's men when they skyjack the CIA plane in mid-air during the prologue.
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mini Uzi w/folding stock 9x19mm]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5KA4==
When Special Forces soldiers disguised as relief workers attempt to form a resistance inside the besieged Gotham City they are seen using [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|H&K MP5KA4]]s attaiched to shoulder slings under their jackets.
[[Image:MP5KA4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5KA4- 9x19mm]]

=Rifles=

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
[[Heckler & Koch G36C]]s are the main weapons used by Bane's ([[Tom Hardy]]) men. Some of the CIA agents in the beginning of the film are also seen with G36Cs as well. Deputy Commissioner Foley ([[Matthew Modine]]) also fires a G36C near the end of the film during the climatic brawl between GCPD and Bane's Army.
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bane's mercenaries hold G36Cs while leading a jailbreak.]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A mercenary fires a G36C into the air.]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Foley fires a G36C.]]

==AKMS==
Several prisoners are seen carrying [[AKMS]] rifles when they break out of jail.
[[File:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[File:DKR-AKMS-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bane watches as escaped prisoners wave AKMS rifles.]]

==AKM==
A mercenary fires an [[AKM]] before being attacked by Batman.

[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:DKR-AKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The mercenary fires an AKM.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==
One of the militia men who gives the three "prisoners" to the CIA operative carries a [[Norinco Type 56-1]] during the film's prologue.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Norinco Type 56-1 - 7.62x39mm]]

== Mk. 18 Mod 0 ==
[[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]s are carried by two of the CIA agents on the extraction team in the prologue.
[[Image:Mk18SpecializedArmaments.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mk. 18 Mod 0 - 5.56x45mm]]

=Shotguns=

==Remington 870==
The [[Remington 870]] is seen as the standard shotgun of the Gotham City Police Department. John Black ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) is seen clearing a hallway with a Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot shotgun.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]‎

==Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)==
[[Image:Stevens_311_(Sawed_Off).jpg|thumb|left|400px|Stevens 311R (sawed-off) - 12 gauge]]

The [[Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)]]is used by one of Bane's soldiers and Bane [[Tom Hardy]] himself.

=Sniper Rifles=
==Barrett M107==
When GCPD SWAT teams engage Bane's men in the alleyway shootout scene. Bane's second in command ([[Josh Stewart]]) uses a [[Barrett M107]] and takes down a number of GCPD SWAT Officers allowing his fellow cronies to escape.
[[Image:Berrett M107.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Barrett M107 long range sniper rifle - .50 BMG.]]

=Machine Guns=

==Browning M2HB==
[[Browning M2HB]] heavy machine guns are mounted atop of mercenary pickup trucks.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]

==Other==
==EMP Weapon==
One of the weapons wielded by Batman is what appears to be a rifle that fires EMP pulses to disable vehicles.
[[File:DKR-Weapon-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Batman wields the EMP rifle.]]

{{Batman Series}}

[[Category:Movie|Batman 7]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Christopher Nolan]]

The Dark Knight Rises

2012-07-21T01:44:07Z

Pistolpete: /* Remington 870 */

{{upcoming}}

{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = The Dark Knight Rises
|picture = TDKR.jpg
|caption = ''The Dark Knight Rises (2012)''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|director = Christopher Nolan
|date= 2012
|studio=Warner Brothers Pictures Legendary Pictures DC Entertainment
|distributor=Warner Brothers Pictures
|character1=Bruce Wayne/Batman
|actor1=[[Christian Bale]]
|character2=Bane
|actor2=[[Tom Hardy]]
|character3=Selina Kyle/Catwoman
|actor3=[[Anne Hathaway]]
|character4=John Blake
|actor4=[[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]
|character5=Jim Gordon
|actor5=[[Gary Oldman]]
|character6=Alfred
|actor6=[[Michael Caine]]
|character7=Lucius Fox
|actor7=[[Morgan Freeman]]
|character8=Miranda Tate
|actor8=[[Marion Cotillard]]
}}
'''The Dark Knight Rises''' is the third and final installment in director [[Christopher Nolan]]'s trilogy of Batman films. The 2012 sequel finds Bruce Wayne, now a recluse, contemplating a return to his role as Batman as a mercenary leader named Bane ([[Tom Hardy]]) threatens the citizens of Gotham City.

{{Spoilers}}

'''The following weapons will appear in the film ''The Dark Knight Rises'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
== Beretta 92FS ==
The [[Beretta 92FS]] is the sidearm of several Gotham City Police officers.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS 9mm]]

== CZ 75B ==
The [[CZ 75B]] appears to be the weapon wielded by Selina Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]).
[[Image:Cz75b9mm.jpg|thumb|300px|none|CZ 75B - 9mm]]
[[File:catwomanandguns.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Selina Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]) holds the pistol as she disarms an assailant of his suppressed Glock.]]

== Glock 17 ==
Another CIA operative draws a [[Glock 17]] when their plane is skyjacked by Bane's men. GCPD Officer John Blake ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) is seen drawing a Glock 17.

[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Generation 2 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:JGLTDKR412-fin.jpg|thumb|none|351px|A production image of Officer John Blake ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) with a Glock 17 in hand.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The [[SIG-Sauer P226]] is carried by Commissioner Gordon ([[Gary Oldman]]) as his personal sidearm. Selena Kyle ([[Anne Hathaway]]) is seen using a SIG-Sauer 226 as well.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9mm.]]

[[File:DKR-P226-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Commissioner Gordon ([[Gary Oldman]]) searches a building with his P226 drawn.]]
[[File:DKR-P226-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Gordon takes cover after an explosion occurs with his P226 in hand.]]

== Heckler & Koch USP Compact ==
A CIA operative ([[Aidan Gillen]]) uses a [[Heckler & Koch USP Compact]] in the film's prologue.

[[Image:Usp compact 3.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Heckler & Koch USP Compact - 9x19mm]]

=Submachine Guns=

==Heckler & Koch MP5A2==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]s are seen carried by GCPD SWAT officers.

[[Image:SWATMP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 - 9mm.]]
[[File:DKR-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A GCPD SWAT officer in the background wields a MP5A2.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]s are also seen carried by GCPD SWAT officers.

[[File:HKmp5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9mm.]]
[[File:DKR-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A GCPD SWAT officer in the foreground wields a MP5A3.]]

==IMI Mini UZI==
[[Mini Uzi]]s are used by Bane's men when they skyjack the CIA plane in mid-air during the prologue.
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mini Uzi w/folding stock 9x19mm]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5KA4==
When Special Forces soldiers disguised as relief workers attempt to form a resistance inside the besieged Gotham City they are seen using [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|H&K MP5KA4]]s attaiched to shoulder slings under their jackets.
[[Image:MP5KA4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5KA4- 9x19mm]]

=Rifles=

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
[[Heckler & Koch G36C]]s are the main weapons used by Bane's ([[Tom Hardy]]) men. Some of the CIA agents in the beginning of the film are also seen with G36Cs as well. Deputy Commissioner Foley ([[Matthew Modine]]) also fires a G36C near the end of the film during the climatic brawl between GCPD and Bane's Army.
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bane's mercenaries hold G36Cs while leading a jailbreak.]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A mercenary fires a G36C into the air.]]
[[File:DKR-G36C-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Foley fires a G36C.]]

==AKMS==
Several prisoners are seen carrying [[AKMS]] rifles when they break out of jail.
[[File:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[File:DKR-AKMS-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bane watches as escaped prisoners wave AKMS rifles.]]

==AKM==
A mercenary fires an [[AKM]] before being attacked by Batman.

[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:DKR-AKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The mercenary fires an AKM.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==
One of the militia men who gives the three "prisoners" to the CIA operative carries a [[Norinco Type 56-1]] during the film's prologue.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Norinco Type 56-1 - 7.62x39mm]]

== Mk. 18 Mod 0 ==
[[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]s are carried by two of the CIA agents on the extraction team in the prologue.
[[Image:Mk18SpecializedArmaments.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mk. 18 Mod 0 - 5.56x45mm]]

=Shotguns=

==Remington 870==
The [[Remington 870]] is seen as the standard shotgun of the Gotham City Police Department. John Black ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) is seen clearing a hallway with a Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot shotgun.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]‎

==Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)==
[[Image:Stevens_311_(Sawed_Off).jpg|thumb|right|400px|Stevens 311R (sawed-off) - 12 gauge]]

The [[Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)]]is used by one of Bane's soldiers and Bane [[Tom Hardy]] himself.

=Sniper Rifles=
==Barrett M107==
When GCPD SWAT teams engage Bane's men in the alleyway shootout scene. Bane's second in command ([[Josh Stewart]]) uses a [[Barrett M107]] and takes down a number of GCPD SWAT Officers allowing his fellow cronies to escape.
[[Image:Berrett M107.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Barrett M107 long range sniper rifle - .50 BMG.]]

=Machine Guns=

==Browning M2HB==
[[Browning M2HB]] heavy machine guns are mounted atop of mercenary pickup trucks.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]

==Other==
==EMP Weapon==
One of the weapons wielded by Batman is what appears to be a rifle that fires EMP pulses to disable vehicles.
[[File:DKR-Weapon-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Batman wields the EMP rifle.]]

{{Batman Series}}

[[Category:Movie|Batman 7]]
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[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Christopher Nolan]]

Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-07-18T21:52:49Z

Pistolpete:

Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II

2012-07-08T17:45:07Z

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Talk:Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows

2012-06-17T12:59:55Z

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== Unidentified Rifle ==

I think it's safe to say that these aren't Gewehr 1898s. See below. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:35, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:MG98b-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The magazine that extends out of the rifle.]]
[[Image:MG98c-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Muzzle looks weird. ]]

Gewehr 1888's? It's got the fat muzzle. And the Austro-Hungarian Army did use a licensed copy. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_GEW_88.jpg] --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:48, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

Also, the rifle in the trailer has a visible magazine , the 98 does not have one. -G36Ghost.

== Mauser M712 ==

In the trailer between 32-34 seconds an unknown character can be seen loading a mazing into a C-96 pattern pistol, implying the M712. I would include this but am still somewhat unfamiliar with Wiki editing, and more importantly, how to upload a picture. Not to shirk responsibility, but if someone more knowledgeable can do it, thanks. --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 21:28, 28 October 2011 (CDT)

: Its most definitly a M712. The character using it describes it as using a 10 round box magazine, and even accurately notes it firing a 7.63 caliber round. He tells Holmes his revolver is a relic, in comparison. Edit: I believe that the useage of a detachable box magazine makes it a M712 right away. I think we should remove the C96 title from the entry on the main page. -MissySummers-

== Man portable machine gun ==

There was a scene where Watson took hold of a weird weapon that looks like nothing I've ever seen before and fits a top shiny banana shaped magazine and was firing it full auto [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:22, 17 December 2011 (CST)

The closest I can come is a Beretta M1918, though I have a feeling that's incorrect.[[User:pastorhack]]

:From how cumbersome and awkward it looked, think it could be a Villar-Perosa OVP M1918, the regular automatic carbine version of the [[Villar-Perosa submachine gun]]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:58, 18 December 2011 (CST)

::Just noticed that it is actually visible for a few frames in the trailer:
::[[File:SH2 trailer SMG.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
::To me this doesn't look like and OVP or a Beretta M1918, so am stumped. Neither of these guns have a magazine well like this. The profile of the barrel looks a bit like the OVP but it is too thick. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that this weapon is mockup up from something else. This gun doesn't seem to have any sights, and that silver bit behind the magazine could be the receiver of a donor weapon which has a conventional layout. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:15, 18 December 2011 (CST)

It's a mocked-up Villar-Perosa--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:54, 18 December 2011 (CST)

It really does look like a Villar-Persoa. So do we put this on the page? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:55, 1 January 2012 (CST)

Are we sure it's actually a Villar-Perosa that was used? I saw the movie and the gun resembled a scaled-down version of the 1895 light-weight Maxim that had been adapted for a Villar-Perosa style box feed. I admit I never got a really good look at the entire weapon, but it seemed to have the same kind of pistol grip that you would find on a Maxim. So I don't think we can say the weapon was intended to be a Villar-Perosa, and unless we can get some behind the scenes info on the production we have no idea what was used to construct it.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 13:41, 1 January 2012 (CST)

It looks like an early Bren prototype because of the curved magazine--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:21, 20 January 2012 (CST)
:First off, it clearly isn't a bren, as the bren has a much larger magazine for starters, and generally looks nothing like this. Below is a picture of the Villar-Perosa OVP M1918 Automatic Carbine:
:[[File:Villar-perosa 1918.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
:There is definitely a similarity but there are quite a few differences which I think mean it is not an actual OVP: the barrel is too thick and lacks a front sight, the curvature of the magazine looks too severe and the base plate is different, genuine OVPs don't have a protruding magazine well and lastly the film gun has an odd boxy stainless steel structure behind the magazine. I still think it is a different submachine gun that has been flipped over and modified to look like an OVP, but until Bluray screenshots are available it is very hard to tell. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:22, 20 January 2012 (CST)
:: I don't believe the weapon is supposed to represent the OVP, and in fact I don't think it is supposed to represent an actual real world weapon. From what I could see, the only aspect of the gun that resembled the OVP is the magazine, the gun itself looks like it was inspired by the 1895 light weight Maxim. At one point in the film a number of the guns are shown sitting on a table in the weapons factory, it's only a quick shot but I'm sure the they had pistol grips that resembled the type found on a Maxim. IMO, the propmaster was tasked with providing some form of man portable machine gun for this film, and the best solution was a hybrid of two real world weapons in order to create something that looked like it could have existed in 1891.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 00:10, 21 January 2012 (CST)
I always figured that the anachronistic guns were meant to be prototypes developed by Moriarty's weapons designers and were taken after his demise and the liquidation of his assets. The gun is clearly heavily inspired by the Villar-Perosa, but likely isn't necessarily meant to represent the Villar-Perosa. In this universe, the design was taken and made into the double-gun by an Italian designer as a way of increasing its firepower. It's an easy explanation for all the anachronistic weapons. Now the question is whether the gun was a real weapon converted and dressed up or a non-firing prop with CGI or pyro for the gunfire. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 07:13, 18 April 2012 (CDT)
== Anachronistic ==

this movie actualy takes place in 1891 and not 1882 as this artical states --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 14:03, 18 December 2011 (CST)

The text states 1892. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:16, 18 December 2011 (CST)

:I saw this movie today. 1891 has been mentioned twice. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:09, 30 December 2011 (CST)

::Yep. The original story, "The Final Problem", was also set in 1891. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 07:55, 15 January 2012 (CST)

== shotgun ==

one of the men on the train looked like the had a shotgun?

Correct. One of the soldiers had a Winchester 1887. Hard to tell if it was 10 gauge or 12. --[[User:Bad Boy|Bad Boy]] 23:36, 24 December 2011 (CST)

I actually thought that was a Martini-Henry, which would make sense for British soldiers of the time to be using. I guess it could be a (rather rare) Greener Prison Shotgun, which would look similar, in which case it would be 14 gauge. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 08:13, 1 January 2012 (CST)

I've seen images of the Greener shotgun and it looks nothing like an 1887. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:51, 1 January 2012 (CST)

Sorry for the imprecise wording, I meant similar to a Martini-Henry. I could very well be wrong about it being that, I didn't get a particularly good look at it and I suppose the 1887 being in the previous film lends some credence to that idea. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 15:17, 1 January 2012 (CST)

I just bought the movie and the shotgun was a Winchester 1887. [[User:Balin21|Balin21]] 10:40 14 June 2012 (CST)

== The Forest Scene ==

Is it just me, or was that the best action scene in a movie in the last five years? I can't be the only one who thinks this. It was intense, well shot, and surprisingly innovative in the way it moved the camera and used high-speed film. It was completely awesome. I'd also like to figure out what make of cannon that was that the bad guys (and Watson, earlier) were using. -Cutter9792 (1/1/2012)

No it wasn't. In fact, the slow mo ramping up effect is very dated and a bit annoying after 300 did it. There are plenty of movies that have far superior action scenes [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:33, 1 January 2012 (CST)

== Single shot pistol ==

During the scene on the train I am quite sure that I saw a small single shot pistol, used to dispatch one of the maxim gun crew. Anybody get a look at that?

It looked like a Colt .41 RF derringer. I suspect if it was then it was one of the modern replicas in .22 short.

I think it was the C sharps pepperbox like the one in the first movie--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 20:06, 20 January 2012 (CST)

== Interesting Observation ==

There are double anachronisms in both films:

Sherlock Holmes 1: Suppressed Nagant Model 1895

Sherlock Holmes 2: Selective Mauser Model 1896

And judging by the pattern, Sherlock Holmes 3 gonna have "*adjective/adjectival participle starting with "S"* *Designer/Manufacturer* Model 1897".

--[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 08:28, 15 January 2012 (CST)

* I believe the suggestion in both films is that they're not meant to be the "Nagant 1895" or the "Mauser C96", but rather new weapons of a design that would only later be commercialized. The Nagant could be explained away as a modification to a contemporary revolver by Holmes himself, while it's quite clearly suggested that Moriarty's been manufacturing some highly advanced weapons for the war he plans on starting. After his death, the designs were probably confiscated and later used as the basis for the weapons as we know them today, like the apparent Villar-Perosa and the Mauser.[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 07:13, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

::That's what I interpreted it as as well - all the anachronistic guns seen were just advanced prototypes made by Moriarty, in an alternative history "this-is-where-they-first-came-from" kind of way.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 05:25, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

== Suppressor ==

Were sound suppressors even concieved back in the 1890's ? [[User:EoghanG93|EoghanG93]] 11:58, 14 June 2012 (CDT)

Hiram Maxim marketed the first commercial silencer about 1902. Don't know how long he worked on the device though. I remember an episode of "Gunsmoke" where a killer was using a silencer he had invented on his rifle, so it has been done before in media. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 21:58, 14 June 2012 (CDT)

It was done to show that Moriarty is better than Holmes. as you see in the first film Holmes is "in the process of inventing a device which muffles the sound of a gunshot". Moriarty succeeds where Sherlock Failed.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 07:59, 17 June 2012 (CDT)

== Moran's sniper rifle ==

Moran's rifle looks nothing like Henry-Martini. In fact, it looks nothing like any rifle I've seen. Maybe it's a complete prop?

Talk:The Bourne Legacy

2012-06-17T01:38:33Z

Pistolpete:

Is this a reboot or a new chapter in the Bourne films? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 17:33, 12 February 2012 (CST)
:It isn't a reboot or anything like that, is more of a spin-off. The trailer says something about him being an "Outcome" agent, which is the successor to "Treadstone" but without the drawbacks. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:42, 12 February 2012 (CST)
This is more of a "sidequel" to the Bourne films. I read somewhere that the events of one of the films shows the effects it had on the events in this film. I love the Bourne films, and I personally cannot wait for this film to come out (just a damn shame I'm in Magaluf when it is :( ) [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I hope that Renner will keep up the same standards as damon. I have enjoyed his acting in other films but there is a lot at stake here. (statichunter 2012)

Judging from what I've seen with the trailers, Renner might just blow Damon out of the water. Just my opinon --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 11:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

== Timeline with the Bourne trilogy ==

From what I've determined from watching the trailer it seems that this will take place alongside the Bourne trilogy.
Cross will be doing business as usual until Bourne goes to new York. Cross is then put on standby to take out Bourne and remains in hiding until oven is arrested and Bourne is still missing after 3 days (this ends the Bourne trilogy). Then Kramer cuts off loose ends like the tread stone agents until his trial so there will be less evidence against him. But cross fights back and we get a cool summer action flicks. This is how the movie will fit into the timeline from what I've seen in the trailer. This isn't official, just my opinion.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:17, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

After analyzing the trailer, I can safely say I have the same suspicions. Great minds eh? :D --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:14, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

After Bourne is missing, Kramer starts to "burn" Operation Outcome (which Cross is an agent of) to the ground by hunting the Outcome agents down and killing them so there is less evidence to convict him with. He is going down along with Vosen, that is my guess.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:38, 11 June 2012 (CDT)

== possible plot hole ==

My friend got to go to a screening of The Bourne Legacy. Apparantly the opening credits place the film in 2007 (the year ultimatum was released) alongside the events of Ultimatum. Identity takes place in 2002. Supremacy in 04, because Bourne says that 2 years have passed. Ultimatum takes place a few weeks later either in 04 or 05.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 19:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)

jason bourne says to dr hirsch that it has been 3 years so, if the bourne ultimatum was set in 2007, i would say identity was set 3 years prior in 2004 and supremacy was set the same year as ultimatum, only if 2007 was the only confirmed date on screen.--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 20:38, 16 June 2012 (CDT)

Talk:The Bourne Legacy

2012-06-17T01:32:34Z

Pistolpete:

Is this a reboot or a new chapter in the Bourne films? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 17:33, 12 February 2012 (CST)
:It isn't a reboot or anything like that, is more of a spin-off. The trailer says something about him being an "Outcome" agent, which is the successor to "Treadstone" but without the drawbacks. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:42, 12 February 2012 (CST)
This is more of a "sidequel" to the Bourne films. I read somewhere that the events of one of the films shows the effects it had on the events in this film. I love the Bourne films, and I personally cannot wait for this film to come out (just a damn shame I'm in Magaluf when it is :( ) [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I hope that Renner will keep up the same standards as damon. I have enjoyed his acting in other films but there is a lot at stake here. (statichunter 2012)

Judging from what I've seen with the trailers, Renner might just blow Damon out of the water. Just my opinon --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 11:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

== Timeline with the Bourne trilogy ==

From what I've determined from watching the trailer it seems that this will take place alongside the Bourne trilogy.
Cross will be doing business as usual until Bourne goes to new York. Cross is then put on standby to take out Bourne and remains in hiding until oven is arrested and Bourne is still missing after 3 days (this ends the Bourne trilogy). Then Kramer cuts off loose ends like the tread stone agents until his trial so there will be less evidence against him. But cross fights back and we get a cool summer action flicks. This is how the movie will fit into the timeline from what I've seen in the trailer. This isn't official, just my opinion.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:17, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

After analyzing the trailer, I can safely say I have the same suspicions. Great minds eh? :D --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:14, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

After Bourne is missing, Kramer starts to "burn" Operation Outcome (which Cross is an agent of) to the ground by hunting the Outcome agents down and killing them so there is less evidence to convict him with. He is going down along with Vosen, that is my guess.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:38, 11 June 2012 (CDT)

== possible plot hole ==

My friend got to go to a screening of The Bourne Legacy. Apparantly the opening credits place the film in 2007 (the year ultimatum was released) alongside the events of Ultimatum. Identity takes place in 2002. Supremacy in 04, because Bourne says that 2 years have passed. Ultimatum takes place a few weeks later either in 04 or 05.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 19:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)

what?? since when did the year of the films release correspond to the year the film is actually set.
if the bourne legacy was set in the year 2007 you should safely assume that the bourne supremacy was set in 2005 and identity 2003, just because, in the bourne legacy it says it is set in 2007 :P and thats the newest film (clearly in this one they decided to say the year of the event)--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 20:32, 16 June 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Django Unchained

2012-06-08T19:50:03Z

Pistolpete:

Right, before i get any shit from anyone the advertisements are in the middle fo the page next to the images. If anyone else can see this i do not know how to stop this or fix it.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:55, 7 June 2012 (CDT)

==Time period?==
Why are there slaves in the WEST? The topography in the beginning of the trailer looks like the western states. I assume that all the guns are cap & Ball guns. I noticed that James Remar's shotgun is a percussion cap double barreled (The ram road is visible), not a cartridge gun, and Dr Schulz's gun when he takes down the slavers looks to be a Remington 1858. If Django's wife is a slave, then this cannot take place AFTER the end of the Civil War. Slavery was abolished in 1865. Most western guns appear between 1866-1889. Just musing. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
:Before we get too much into the details, this is the same guy that had Adolf Hitler getting gunned down in a French movie theater in 1944. So, yeah... --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:42, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Hi
I've edited the Film's description to show; in the Director's own words that the film is a "Southern" due to the location and content of the film. --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 14:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

I assume the rifle Jamie Foxx uses is a Sharps Carbine rifle. and i think shultz has a henry rifle when he guns down riders in the forest.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 14:49, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Django Unchained

2012-06-08T19:49:27Z

Pistolpete:

Right, before i get any shit from anyone the advertisements are in the middle fo the page next to the images. If anyone else can see this i do not know how to stop this or fix it.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:55, 7 June 2012 (CDT)

==Time period?==
Why are there slaves in the WEST? The topography in the beginning of the trailer looks like the western states. I assume that all the guns are cap & Ball guns. I noticed that James Remar's shotgun is a percussion cap double barreled (The ram road is visible), not a cartridge gun, and Dr Schulz's gun when he takes down the slavers looks to be a Remington 1858. If Django's wife is a slave, then this cannot take place AFTER the end of the Civil War. Slavery was abolished in 1865. Most western guns appear between 1866-1889. Just musing. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
:Before we get too much into the details, this is the same guy that had Adolf Hitler getting gunned down in a French movie theater in 1944. So, yeah... --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:42, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Hi
I've edited the Film's description to show; in the Director's own words that the film is a "Southern" due to the location and content of the film. --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 14:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

I assume the rifle Jamie Foxx uses is a Sharps rifle. and i think shultz has a henry rifle when he guns down riders in the forest.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 14:49, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Django Unchained

2012-06-08T19:49:00Z

Pistolpete:

Right, before i get any shit from anyone the advertisements are in the middle fo the page next to the images. If anyone else can see this i do not know how to stop this or fix it.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:55, 7 June 2012 (CDT)

==Time period?==
Why are there slaves in the WEST? The topography in the beginning of the trailer looks like the western states. I assume that all the guns are cap & Ball guns. I noticed that James Remar's shotgun is a percussion cap double barreled (The ram road is visible), not a cartridge gun, and Dr Schulz's gun when he takes down the slavers looks to be a Remington 1858. If Django's wife is a slave, then this cannot take place AFTER the end of the Civil War. Slavery was abolished in 1865. Most western guns appear between 1866-1889. Just musing. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
:Before we get too much into the details, this is the same guy that had Adolf Hitler getting gunned down in a French movie theater in 1944. So, yeah... --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:42, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Hi
I've edited the Film's description to show; in the Director's own words that the film is a "Southern" due to the location and content of the film. --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 14:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

I assume the rifle Jamie Foxx uses is a Shapes rifle. and i think shultz has a henry rifle when he guns down riders in the forest.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 14:49, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Django Unchained

2012-06-08T19:45:13Z

Pistolpete:

Talk:Django Unchained

2012-06-08T19:44:57Z

Pistolpete:

Right, before i get any shit from anyone the advertisements are in the middle fo the page next to the images. If anyone else can see this i do not know how to stop this or fix it.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 21:55, 7 June 2012 (CDT)

==Time period?==
Why are there slaves in the WEST? The topography in the beginning of the trailer looks like the western states. I assume that all the guns are cap & Ball guns. I noticed that James Remar's shotgun is a percussion cap double barreled (The ram road is visible), not a cartridge gun, and Dr Schulz's gun when he takes down the slavers looks to be a Remington 1858. If Django's wife is a slave, then this cannot take place AFTER the end of the Civil War. Slavery was abolished in 1865. Most western guns appear between 1866-1889. Just musing. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
:Before we get too much into the details, this is the same guy that had Adolf Hitler getting gunned down in a French movie theater in 1944. So, yeah... --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:42, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Hi
I've edited the Film's description to show; in the Director's own words that the film is a "Southerm" due to the location and content of the film. --[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 14:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Django Unchained

2012-06-08T19:41:09Z

Pistolpete:

{{upcoming}}
[[File:Django Unchained Teaser Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Django Unchained'' (2012)]]

'''''Django Unchained''''' is a 2012 "Southern" written and directed by [[Quentin Tarantino]]. The film stars Jamie Foxx as Django, an acquired slave who is partnered with a bounty hunter named Dr. King Shultz ([[Christoph Waltz]]) to track down and eliminate the notorious Bittle Brothers of whom Shultz has no knowledge of appearance. If the brothers are brought to justice, Shultz promises to aid Django in his quest to find the man who has enslaved his wife and rescue her from his clutches. The cast includes [[Leonardo DiCaprio]], [[Don Johnson]], [[Walton Goggins]], and [[Samuel L. Jackson]]. The film's name is a homage to the 1966 Italian Western ''[[Django]]'' that starred [[Franco Nero]] (who also has a role in this film).

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Django Unchained:'''''

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== Remington 1866 Derringer ==
Dr. King Schultz and Django ([[Jamie Foxx]]) use [[Remington 1866 Derringer]]s as their secondary weapons. they are attatched to drawer slides that allow for quick pistol drawing. They are both polished steel with pearl grips which means they are duplicates or in fact the same pistol.
[[Image:Remington1866Type4.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. Caliber. Polished Steel with yellow pearl grips]]
[[Image:Django.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:Django_unchained.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

[[Category:Movie]]
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Django Unchained

2012-06-08T19:01:06Z

Pistolpete:

{{upcoming}}
[[File:Django Unchained Teaser Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Django Unchained'' (2012)]]

'''''Django Unchained''''' is a 2012 western written and directed by Quentin Tarantino. it stars Jamie Foxx as Django, an acquired slave who is partnered with a bounty hunter named Dr. King Shultz ([[Christoph Waltz]]) to track down and eliminate the notorious Bittle Brothers of whom Shultz has no knowledge of apperaence. If the brothers are brought to justice, Shultz promises to aid Django in his quest to find the man who has enslaved his wife and rescue her from his clutches.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Django Unchained:'''''

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== Remington 1866 Derringer ==
Dr. King Schultz and Django ([[Jamie Foxx]]) use [[Remington 1866 Derringer]]s as their secondary weapons. they are attatched to drawer slides that allow for quick pistol drawing. They are both polished steel with pearl grips which means they are duplicates or in fact the same pistol.
[[Image:Remington1866Type4.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. Caliber. Polished Steel with yellow pearl grips]]
[[Image:Django.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:Django_unchained.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Western]]
[[Category:Quentin Tarantino]]

User talk:Ben41

2012-06-08T18:59:51Z

Pistolpete:

'''''Earlier discussions: [[User Talk:Ben41/Archive 1]]'''''

== I need you or another admins help, my other account was blocked wrongfully. ==

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me with an issue I am having. Admin "Evil Tim" blocked me for no reason thinking I was some guy named "Burt", which I am not, my name is Danny. I tryed to contact him about it on my blocked account "Glock17gen4", but it wouldnt let me so I'm forced to use this account I made. I tryed to contact him and I have no received a reply, I think he is ignoring the msg or something. I was wondering if you could help and unblock my other account, thanks. [[User:SaferSephiroth|SaferSephiroth]] 16:24, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

== Some help ==

Hello! You appear to have banned my main account "QueenSasha24" for the reason of it being a "spambot name". Well I assure you I am not a spambot, the name was given to me from a roleplaying community. I would really appreciate if you guys could unban my account, as I had some contributions to make to our wonderful site. :)
:Sorted this one out for you. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:35, 15 April 2012 (CDT)

==Permission to restore a deleted article==

I recently got the video game ''Alliance of Valiant Arms'' on Steam, and I noticed that we used to have an article for it but it was deleted. Since you were the one that deleted it, I wanted to ask if it was alright if I had a go at making an article for the game. As you can see from my past works (such as ''[[Project Reality]]'' and my overhaul of ''[[Battlefield 2]]''), I will give thorough descriptions of the weapons and good-quality screenshots of their use in-game. I hope to hear back from you on this, and wish you well. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:25, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== Template ==

Hey man. I am working on creating some templates for the site. They are all pending admin approval of course but I need to recreate a template which you previously deleted. ([[Template:!]]). This template basically allows the use of the pipe character ("<nowiki>|</nowiki>") when passing arguements to a template. You can look [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template#A_parameter_value_containing_a_pipe_character HERE] on the MediaWiki site for more information. Just wanted to let you know that I am recreating this template for a purpose. Let me know if you have any questions. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:59, 24 April 2012 (CDT)
:Do you like the Spoiler Template?? I saw the change you made which is totally fine by me. I was just going off of what appeared on most of the pages... :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 19:11, 2 May 2012 (CDT)
::Sweet. I will sell you on the Infoboxes somehow... I haven't figured out how just yet.... :-p In the meantime though, I am still working on converting gun pages to wikitable. Just finished all the pistols. Working on Submachine guns now. Then I'm gonna tackle snipers. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 19:32, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== Question regarding caps ==

Do you auto-adjust the color on your screencaps or just use them as-is? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 18:44, 26 April 2012 (CDT)
:I've been using the auto-adjust when a scene a little dark and I have trouble making a firearms ID, but I was wondering if I should do it for all of them for the sake of consistency. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 08:32, 28 April 2012 (CDT)

== Spambots ==

Make sure you blank the "reason" text box when deleting spam pages, I have a suspicion they hope you don't since they almost always put links where they'd show up. Not sure if they ''can'' get referrals from the recent changes page, but it looks like that's what they're hoping for. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:51, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== 1000 Ways to Die ==

Yeah sorry about the method I was using was the only one I know but I will download the photo program you mentioned. But for now I think it's best to keep them like they are for now since those handful of screenshots took me about three days to upload. If there is a problem with the page itself of the another problem with the photos I am open for discussion --[[Use:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]]
:This is NOT A valid entry. This is basically a DOCUMENTARY series on SPIKE TV that does re-enactments. It is not a narrative series. Though I would love to include the reenactments, that would open the door to all the documentary shows which have re-enactment segments like "America's Most Wanted" or any of the numerous History Channel Shows.....[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:41, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

I can use this template?

Specifications

'''Place of origin''' United States 
'''Production''' 2011 - present) 
'''Manufacturer''' [[Advanced Armament Corp.]] 
'''Caliber''' .300 AAC Blackout 
'''Cartridge''' 7.62x35mm 
'''Weight''' 6.5 pounds (unloaded) 
'''Length''' 24-29 inches 
'''Barrel length''' 
'''Rate of fire''' 
'''Effective range''' 
'''Feed system''' Standard AR style magazines 

--[[User:Mateogala|Mateogala]] 15:26, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

==Specifications==
Why are we changing up the specs? The format that Mateogala is using is different from 90% of the pages. Seems like we should keep the same form. If he wants to add additional info, can we at least keep the bullet points?? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:45, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

== RE: Screenshots ==

Alright, I hadn't noticed a huge difference, but I will save as PNGs nonetheless. Thanks for the tip!--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 19:48, 4 May 2012 (CDT)

== RE: The Collector ==

Sorry for the late reply, I was having issues trying to leave a message. Anyways, I thought cropping most of the image would have helped clear the image of unnessecary space (and save server space). But if it's the rules, it's the rules, and I'll upload the entire image. And I really can't get any better resolution for screencaps. I got them from print-screening off of Youtube, and I don't have access to any fancy capture-devices or high-quality media players (nor do I have the money to). And the shotgun is a Mossberg 500, as when the Collector grabs the shotgun from the police cruiser, the safety is briefly visible. - [[User:1morey]] May 6, 2012 9:10 AM (EST)

== Sand Pebbles ==
Nice job cleaning up the page and so on and so forth. Did you replace the screencaps with caps from a Blue-Ray? they look clearer. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 13:32, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

== New Template ==

So I just made a new template that I think you might like. It is an expansion of the TV Title that allows you to use it for pages that have been split by season. [[Template:TV Title Season]]. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:28, 11 May 2012 (CDT)
:After you take a look, let me know something. Should it be television SHOW or television SERIES. I've seen it both ways... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:41, 11 May 2012 (CDT)
::Series it is. :-) Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 14:08, 12 May 2012 (CDT)

== JAG ==

Hey. Just wanted to say its really nice to see [[JAG]] getting its own pages. I'm a huge fan of the series. :-) Good work! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 14:43, 12 May 2012 (CDT)
:Right now I am trying to focus on freaking school work (BLEHHH) and trying to finish up the CSI pages when I'm on here. But when summer break rolls around if the pages aren't already finished, you can definitely count me in for helping out! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:17, 12 May 2012 (CDT)

== Episodes... ==

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Episodes go in the note column correct? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:08, 12 May 2012 (CDT)
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Air Date'''
|-
|}
'''NOT'''
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Air Date'''
|-
|}

:Gotcha. Perhaps you as an admin can talk to [[User_talk:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]]. I had just spent a bunch of time redoing the [[MP40]] page and one of the things I did was to put the Episodes in the note column. He then comes along and moves them all back and says I'm stupid for doing it in the first place (possibly his translator messing up but still...). I don't really care if someone creates a new table and puts the Episodes in the title column but it's kind of annoying to have this guy moving them back there after they were specifically moved for a reason. Not trying to get all butt hurt just cause this guy called me stupid but some of his edits have been really bugging me (and others) lately. Let me know you're thoughts. Unless you say otherwise I will just leave this alone. Not really interested in getting in a pissing contest over something this stupid. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:18, 12 May 2012 (CDT)
::Thanks. I got another question for ya... I'm working on the [[AEK rifle series]], as part of making sure that all the Assault Rifle pages have been converted to the proper table format. Should this page be sub divided into the 3 different models? I didn't want to change it but it seems unnecessary since the only difference is the caliber... Thoughts? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 19:58, 12 May 2012 (CDT)
O I'm totally with you on the [[Remington 870]] page. But that has a lot more entries and a much bigger difference between models. But as you wish! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 21:04, 12 May 2012 (CDT)

==Re: Battle of Long Tan==
Fair Enough, but I thought it would be okay, because another page I created, for [[Kokoda (2010|Kokoda]], was Oked by the admins. It's a documentary, but similar to the Long Tan one, it uses correct weapons and uniforms. --[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] 09:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

== Template:FeaturedArticle2 ==

Hey man. Just wanted to let you know that there is a typo in the [[Enemy at the Gates]] entry on [[Template:FeaturedArticle2]]. The first image needs to be centered. It's showing up all weird right now. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:37, 15 May 2012 (CDT)

== IMDB ==

I would... But it seems like they are already done. I just checked the "What Links here" for [[Template:IMDB Actor]] and there wasn't anything listed. By the way, if you could go ahead and delete the template that would be great. Sorry about this. Hope you guys understand why I did it and that my intentions were good. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 21:12, 17 May 2012 (CDT)

== Re: Do not add IMDB links ==

Sorry. I'll not put such links anymore and remove them from articles. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 23:47, 17 May 2012 (CDT)

== Chuck ==

Hey man. Quick question... I noticed that for the TV show ''[[Chuck]]'' you made the page titled ''[[Chuck (disambiguation)]]'' instead. Shouldn't it just be [[Chuck]]? This would match the format used on other shows that have been split up... [[24]], [[CSI: NY]], [[CSI: Miami]], [[Hawaii Five-0 (2010)]], etc. I would just move it but seeing as an admin created the page, I don't want to overstep. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:41, 18 May 2012 (CDT)

==Chinese names==
Yeah, sure, I wasn't favoring one way or the either. Usually when I create a page for an Asian actor, I make the page under the IMDb name and then a redirect for the other way. (I did point out that Chow Yun-Fat/Yun-Fat Chow exception when I posted on the forum regarding the same topic.) As for going by how it's in the actual credits, that's always a little shaky. There are always some weird deviations. If someone is credited enough times, I'll just create a redirect, like [[Noel G.]] or [[Nick Corri]]. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 02:40, 20 May 2012 (CDT)

== Bernadelli Model 60 ==

Question... I saw you created the [[Bernadelli Model 60]] page. Is this any different from the [[Bernardelli Model 60|Berna'''R'''delli Model 60]]??? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:03, 29 May 2012 (CDT)

== Actor Pages ==

Thanks for the compliment. :-) I'm trying my best. I totally didnt think about checking for other occurrences when creating pages. I will make sure to do that from now on! Thanks for pointing it out. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:25, 2 June 2012 (CDT)

== Title in first column. ==

Can you please inform [[User:Markit]] that the title belongs in the first column? I tried to tell him but he's telling me it is personal preference... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:29, 4 June 2012 (CDT)
:Thanks. I hate to act like a tattle tail but its nice to have an admin reinforce it when (on those rare occasions) I am actually correct. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:50, 4 June 2012 (CDT)

== Film title ==

What is "capitalize"? He wants it to give a example ...--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 09:47, 8 June 2012 (CDT)
Yes - i comprehend, O.K.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 13:26, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

== Writing Summaries ==
To be honest I've seen other pages with copy and paste summaries but O.K.
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 13:54, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

O.K will do.--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 13:59, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

Django Unchained

2012-06-08T18:59:01Z

Pistolpete:

{{upcoming}}
[[File:Django Unchained Teaser Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Django Unchained'' (2012)]]

'''''Django Unchained''''' is a 2012 western written and directed by Quentin Tarantino. it stars Jamie Foxx as Django, an acquired slave who is partnered with a bounty hunter named Dr. King Shultz ([[Christoph Waltz]])to track down and eliminate the notorious Bittle Brothers of whom Shultz has no knowledge of apperaence. If the brothers are brought to justice, Shultz promises to aid Django in his quest to find the man who has enslaved his wife and rescue her from his clutches.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Django Unchained:'''''

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== Remington 1866 Derringer ==
Dr. King Schultz and Django ([[Jamie Foxx]]) use [[Remington 1866 Derringer]]s as their secondary weapons. they are attatched to drawer slides that allow for quick pistol drawing. They are both polished steel with pearl grips which means they are duplicates or in fact the same pistol.
[[Image:Remington1866Type4.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. Caliber. Polished Steel with yellow pearl grips]]
[[Image:Django.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:Django_unchained.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Western]]
[[Category:Quentin Tarantino]]

User talk:Ben41

2012-06-08T18:54:45Z

Pistolpete:

Talk:Django Unchained

2012-06-08T02:55:35Z

Pistolpete: Created page with "Right, before i get any shit from anyone the advertisements are in the middle fo the page next to the images. If anyone else can see this i do not know how to stop this or fix it..."

Django Unchained

2012-06-08T02:54:13Z

Pistolpete:

Django [[Jamie Foxx]] is a slave living in the Deep South after having been separated from his wife Broomhilda [[Kerry Washington]]. When Django is held for a slave auction, Dr. King Schultz [[Christoph Waltz]], a bounty hunter, frees Django from his owner and gives him the option of hunting down and killing the Brittle Brothers, a ruthless gang of killers who only Django has seen. In return, Schultz will free Django from slavery completely and help rescue Broomhilda from the plantation of the francophile owner, Calvin Candie [[Leonardo DiCaprio]].

== Remington 1866 Derringer ==
Dr. King Schultz [[Christoph Waltz]] and Django [[Jamie Foxx]] use Remington 1866 Derringers as their secondary weapons. they are attatched to drawer slides that allow for quick pistol drawing. They are both polished steel with pearl grips which means they are duplicates or in fact the same pistol.

[[Image:Remington1866Type4.jpg‎|thumb|left|400px|Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. Caliber. Polished Steel with yellow pearl grips]]

[[Image:Django.jpg|thumb|left|400px]]

[[Image:Django_unchained.jpg|thumb|left|400px]]

Django Unchained

2012-06-08T02:53:53Z

Pistolpete:

Django Unchained

2012-06-08T02:53:39Z

Pistolpete:

Django [[Jamie Foxx]] is a slave living in the Deep South after having been separated from his wife Broomhilda [[Kerry Washington]]. When Django is held for a slave auction, Dr. King Schultz [[Christoph Waltz]], a bounty hunter, frees Django from his owner and gives him the option of hunting down and killing the Brittle Brothers, a ruthless gang of killers who only Django has seen. In return, Schultz will free Django from slavery completely and help rescue Broomhilda from the plantation of the francophile owner, Calvin Candie [[Leonardo DiCaprio]].

== Remington 1866 Derringer ==
Dr. King Schultz [[Christoph Waltz]] and Django [[Jamie Foxx]] use Remington 1866 Derringers as their secondary weapons. they are attatched to drawer slides that allow for quick pistol drawing. They are both polished steel with pearl grips which means they are duplicates or in fact the same pistol.

[[Image:Remington1866Type4.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. Caliber. Polished Steel with yellow pearl grips]]

[[Image:Django.jpg|thumb|left|400px]]

[[Image:Django_unchained.jpg|thumb|left|400px]]

File:Django unchained.jpg

2012-06-08T02:49:55Z

Pistolpete:

File:Django.jpg

2012-06-08T02:48:20Z

Pistolpete:

Django Unchained

2012-06-08T02:40:11Z

Pistolpete: Created page with "Django Jamie Foxx is a slave living in the Deep South after having been separated from his wife Broomhilda Kerry Washington. When Django is held for a slave auction, Dr. ..."

Talk:Hitman: Absolution

2012-05-31T11:50:52Z

Pistolpete: /* New Trailer */

in this screenshot you can see a rifle againts the wall, possibly a G3 and what looks like a USP in 47's hands

[http://i.imgur.com/lgn2H.jpg]

source here [http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/first-hitman--absolution-scree/1218840] [[User:Sike|Sike]] 07:18, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

:The rifles against the are FAL-type rifles, not G3s. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 11:06, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

I thought it was an FNC. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 11:52, 4 June 2011 (CDT)
:It's too big to be a FNC, the receiver and 20 round 7.62x51mm magazine are from a FAL-type rifle. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 12:06, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

::With the angle of the magazine against the receiver, it doesn't look like a FAL-type rifle. It does appear to have the straight magazine, implying 7.62 Nato. The stock looks a bit like a G36, and the upper receiver looks a bit like the AR-18, so I'm going to have to go out on a limb and suggest the AR-16, the 7.62 version of the AR-18. Probably totally wrong, but its worth a try. --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 06:57, 21 June 2011 (CDT)
:::It's a FAL Para. Man it's so nice to be treated as a weapon-illiterate retard. -_- [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:15, 21 June 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown SIG Sauer pistol ==

If the game is taking it's cues from the earlier games then the SIG Sauer will most likely end up being a P220. I can't wait for this game. It looks fantastic. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:32, 2 July 2011 (CDT)

Same here.[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 20:45, 25 January 2012 (CST)

== H&K Pistol ==

After watching the 20 minute gameplay video of Absolution, I have some doubts that the pistol shown in the video (and trailer) is a USP. My main concern is that this pistol does not seem have a thumb safety (on either side), which to my knowledge all USPs have. I think this is might be a [[Heckler & Koch P2000]].

I've added two images for further discussion.

[[Image:Vlcsnap-2011-10-13-21h34m03s184.jpg|400px|thumb|none|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-2011-10-13-21h32m32s7.jpg|400px|thumb|none|]]

:It's a Taurus PT 24/7, compare this to the screen caps. I'm changing it on the page right now.
:[[Image:Taurus 247.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Taurus 24/7-40BP - .40 S&W]]
:[[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 13:29, 14 October 2011 (CDT)

::I can definitely agree with this. Good job.--[[User:Southpaws|Southpaws]] 13:53, 14 October 2011 (CDT)
:::Edited the text a bit, added screenshot.--[[User:Southpaws|Southpaws]] 14:10, 14 October 2011 (CDT)

== Hardballers ==

Did anyone else notice that the hardballers seem to fire with the hammer up and no cycling?- Qtrain.

:it seems they to in a recent trailer[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzTHY3eiWVs&feature=g-u-u]--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 15:21, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

== Bartoli Custom ==

The Bartoli pistol looks more like the Tanfoglio or some other variant of CZ75. The "low" slide, shape of handle, grips, safety, etc. totally reminiscent of Tanfoglio/EAA Witness. And "Bartoli" sounds like something italian, so I think it's Tanfoglio, not a 1911.
Also compensator together with a sound suppressor looks oddly.

I agree. That's definitely not a 1911. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 23:04, 30 May 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIc0DSbNfyQ

There's an RPG and maybe an MP7 in there that I know of for sure. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 05:40, 31 May 2012 (CDT)

Yep seen them, also i think i spotted an m4a1 Carbine used by one of The Saints on the left, a H & K G36 and a H & K UMP heres a picture:

[[File:NunswithGuns.jpg]]

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 06:46, 31 May 2012 (CDT)