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==Here I am in all my glory==
[[Image:Jeff.jpg|thumb|none|500px|For those who are interested. I see other frequent posters have done vanity photos and I have made reference to my profession in the past. So yes I am a cop and this is me. Well almost. This photo was taken in December 2002. I'm a little more balder and a little heavier. But I'm also wiser and richer (ha!)]]

==Alain Delon==
It was you who replaced photo on the page of [[Alain Delon]]? Why? The photo from [[Scorpio]] is not only unclear, movie itself also average, while [[Le Samouraï]] is a cult film which has a large impact in the world culture. Even the picture which I posted is iconic itself, depicting Delon staring at the gun cold-blooded. Though I'm absoultely agree with removing picture from Red Sun. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 17:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

==Stevens 520/620==
I didn't think to ask you about it too, even though we had that discussion on the Model 12 page. I asked Nyles because he had uploaded that 520 pic. So I guess we'll do it like the Winchester Model 1200/1300 page and call it Stevens Model 520/620. Then do the redirects for the individual models. We need to find a better 620 pic. The 520 pic is good. If you don't beat me to it, I build the page this evening. Thanks for your help.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

==Review position==
I tried to submit an example review for the notice on the main page but I was unable to find how to submit my work after I typed into the email box as their was no "Send" icon. As an Administrator I was hoping you could help me with this issue. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Hidalgo==
Gee thanks! putting the incomplete template on the page right when I'm working on it! LOL! Itchy trigger finger there? ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Yea ==
Got that the first time you told me. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==zombie cross genre?==
I don't like how my search for Zombie movies ends up with a list of all Zombie related Video Games or Anime. Any category search would not Cross genres like that. I think we should separate them since the search result was jarring in that a lot of unrelated titles showed up. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:59, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

==zombie sub category--
Say you want to look for films by Romero and related (like Zombieland) and you end up with 'left for dead' or 'Zombie Panic Source' etc. etc. which are Videogames. I think there should be a zombie movie category in the movie section and a zombie genre game in the VG section. Or something akin to that. But I have long been an advocate of separating the NON film/tv categories from the rest for a long time. As an armorer, I see no value in trying to figure out what an artist was thinking when they DREW a piece of art. Only in movies and television, was a REAL firearm or mockup used, not something out of some techno-geek's imagination. Also the fact that MOST of the kids are capping Videogames or Anime veers us more away from the 'movie' element :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:46, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

==user 58.171.239.105==
[[User:Phoenixent]] has already banned him. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:23, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

==Total Recall==
I'm not really sure what to think of it. From the way I read it, Goncz is mad because he doesn't want is name associated with Claridge and feels he's being misrepresented. On the [[Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA]] page it explains some of the history. I don't think we're in the wrong.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

==Note my comment to the NUTCASE 'inventor' on the Total Recall Page==
If he were real he would NOT be talking to a lawyer. Despite being a gun inventor, he sounds like a kid when he writes. In order to be liable, one must inflict some sort of 'damage' whether to reputation, marketing, sales, review, etc. This guy is 2 bottles short of a sixpack based on his comments. I have no problem telling him where to shove it. (his rant was moved to discussion page and my response as well) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

== Reilly: Ace of Spies ==

I finally finished up the [[Reilly: Ace of Spies]] page with some additional weapons I had noticed, including a [[Browning Hi-Power]] and additional instances with Lugers and 1911s. However, I was wondering if you could help to identify the two pistols I had under the "unidentified pistols" section. Also, I noticed you had left spots for a Mannlicher Model 1903 and a Webley & Scott automatic. Do you remember when in the series these were used? I could find them if you'd like, if you know where to look. Thanks. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 22:27, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's very possible I missed them too! I'd have loved to have seen an old Webley auto in action (or even on-screen in anything). I finally finished the mini-series today, I liked to watch it in blocks rather than just one at a time and unfortunately I had been much too busy before that. Fascinating stories, especially in relation to history. You starting the article was one of the reasons I picked it up (as well as my love for espionage-related things) so thanks for the recommendation! I'll keep my eyes peeled for more on future viewings. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

== Axeman and Lost Images ==

On the [[Lost]] page, the user Axeman keeps reverting the screencaps back to originals he put up. Axeman's images weren't cropped and were too dark. I put up a comparison of his images next to mine on the Lost Discussion page. I think mine would be preferable, but I want to get some other opinions. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:40, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

==Colt Category????????==
Sorry fellow Mod, but why did you create a Colt category? This issue was discussed before on IMFDB (it may have been before you joined), but we thought it made little sense since ALL of the Colt Firearms were bunched together already by virtue of their titles. As you can see, categorizing a gun as COLT does little in that the grouping is no different than just looking at the gun listing by alphabetical order. The purpose of the Categories is to gather completely disparate elements which would be hard to find and group them together. Also I've been putting the kebosh on tons of extraneous Categories that other members have been trying to institute (categories like Slasher, Giallo, Cyberpunk, Main Battle Rifle, SBR, assassination, covert, used by Green Berets, etc. etc. etc.) I think we had better start putting new categories to votes, so that I have some backup when I try to stop those noobs from putting in every conceivable sub-category they can think of. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks, I was really worried that I had hurt your feelings :) But then you're not one of those folks who flies off the handle. in fact you're WAY more tolerant (and less sarcastic) than I am! LOL. Hope you see my reasoning for, at least, trying to limit newer members from creating a torrent of new subcategories :) Thanks and best regards MPM2008

==JCordell==
People who hate you? Can't see that. Can't even imagine that. I think everyone on IMFDB thinks of you as one big TEDDYBEAR. Now ME on the other hand is a ranting lunatic sometimes, usually when I'm yelling at some stupid 'extra' who is dry firing or worse, disassembling a firearm without my knowledge or permission. hahahaha. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

: - I think MPM said it - I don't know you that well, but I can tell from the way you type around here that you're a pretty cool guy - Hell you're probably the damn Ned Flanders of this site. But, being a cop, I can understand where some of the animosity comes from, I sometimes don't think highly of law enforcement personally but I always give respect to those who deserve it. And that certainly includes you, as again, you seem like a pretty alright guy. Hell, anyone that likes Smith revolvers can't be all bad to me. Anyway, real life is one thing, but I doubt people hate you here on the site, unless they're jerks. Now MPM I could understand.. Bah! :b [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm watching you Stan the man!!!!!! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

::- My dad would like you, he swears by Smiths. He religiously owned and shot a 4-inch Model 29 for quite a while. He advised me to go for the 6 1/2 when I buy one myself, saying my hands would thank me for it if I ever shot it real seriously. As for your story, that sounded like quite a fun ordeal - Yow. Yeah, I know cops have to be hardass at times, goes with the territory. But I dislike lawmen that feel they're entitled to be dicks because of the badge and would lean more to giving folks a hard time rather than serving and protecting. Sounds like you've met some of them, and hey, the fact that you know the difference confirms to me that you're pretty alright. Anyway, that's cool, and quite a story. You know, I myself have noticed it's really the scrawny ones you should watch out for, heh. And that's a good point, I know even cops can be scared - even with the training and the weapons you're still human, same as the rest of us. But again, glad to know you get what I was aiming at. I appreciate the insight. Quite enlightening. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

==Boxcar Bertha==
This is labeled as an Ithaca 37 on the [[Boxcar Bertha]] page, but the forend doesn't go all the way to mag tube cap or were older Ithaca's like that? It looks to be bottom ejecting like the Ithaca, unless it's a left handed pump. What do you think it is?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Bxb-ith2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deputy Hall watches the chain gang with his Ithaca 37.]]
:You the man, since you figured it out, you change the Boxcar Bertha page.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::Well the one guy beat you to it on building the page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:17, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
==CC revolver choices==
I just got my concealed carry license (came in today, only waited two weeks) :). I was thinking about purchasing a S&W Model 638, which is the stainless steel, alloy frame bodyguard 38spec +p. But your comments on the Model 36 take page got me thinking. Would it be better to suffer the added weight of a Ruger SP101 or Colt DS or even a steel frame S&W? While the airweight might be easier to carry. But shooting on the other hand, which is what really counts I feel, will be a lot harder to do. I was maybe going to try to pocket carry (with a pocket holster) or go IWB. Going OWB on a snub would probably work but I'm worried about printing. Also what about exposed hammers vs bobbed hammers or shrouded hammers. Is snagging really a big issue or is something that can be overcome with enough practice?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:17, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks, I knew you would be a big help. I'm going to look into the steel frame S&W's more, I may just go with the SP101 with the bobbed hammer. I didn't really think of Taurus. My dad has a PT1911, its been a good gun. But like you say Taurus is hit or miss most of the time. I get what you mean about Colt. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah I forgot about Charter Arms too. I'll probably just stick to getting a S&W or Ruger. Our local gun shop has a SP101, but it has a 3" barrel. They also have some Model 442's I think. I don't think they have any steel frame S&W snubs. I've been thinking about a picking a LCP, but with a .380 I feel like that's a back-up gun, not a primary gun. But anything is better than nothing. No problem putting the message on my user page. Also what are your thoughts on a Model 19 or 66 snub carrying IWB, too much width with the cylinder? Or is it better to stick to a J-frame starting out? I really appreciate your help. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:29, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Ended up buying a Model 642 they had at the gun shop. It's black with stainless barrel and cylinder, which I don't really care for. Would rather have had all black. I really don't plan on doing a lot of shooting with it. At least now I have more than one revolver. The price they had listed was comparable to Bud's Gun Shop. Also came with a $50 rebate. Anyway thanks for all your help. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:31, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I have some snap caps in .357 but they just won't fit :). I'm going to order some caps, along with a pocket holster, and some speed strips, maybe even a speedloader or two. But because of the overall size of the gun, speedloaders don't look like they will work too fast. The grips on the gun are okay, but no room for my pinkie. So I may look from some different ones. I would still like to maybe get a SP101 in the future. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:23, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

:Edit mine is actually a Model 442.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:48, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

==More revolver talk==

I read up on you and Pred's convos and found them very informative. I always had a bit of liking for the Ruger SP101, despite my own immense attraction to Smiths. That said I'll ask if you've had any serious experience with a 640 Centennial? I only ask because that was one I would seriously consider getting right away. I have looked at some other .38 only revolvers like the Bodyguard series and such but I wanted the 640 for common caliber with the other Smiths, (As you can see, a vast majority of my 'wishlist' wheelguns are .357s) and if I'm not mistaken, you can shoot lower .38s in a .357 anyway. :b Anyway, that all said, figured I'd ask you on that more specific gun (If you had any exposure to it, that is). I had a couple of general questions but you've already answered them with Pred's comments and some of your past postings so I won't be redundant. Thanks for the help. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:: Whoa, looks like a few people have bombarded you with revolver stuff lately, heh. Anyway, I appreciate your input. As for weight, I agree - as you said, it's a only few ounces and I never considered that to have too much an impact. Besides I do intend to have something that is pretty hard-wearing (which the all steel guns have proven good at for quite some time now), and I was considering belt carry rather than ankle anyway. But, there may come a time/case where I have to use ankle carry and again, I like being versatile. As you said larger 6-shot guns can be a little problematic there. And I guess I'm also like you in the sense that all the newer polymer and aluminum guns don't really blow my skirt up either; I myself am pretty old fashioned when it comes to firearms - growing up with a mechanic/repairman/technician for a dad, you learn that plastic and aluminum are good for some things but not everything and are often overrated. :b Not to chub down polymer or alum guns, many of them seem pretty good, some of them I actually have interest in. But, I am definitely one of those 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' guys. I know they make the bigger Smiths in snub versions but I've always considered them just a bit too big to carry practically speaking. I really like the look of the snubs for the 19/66 and 686, and even 629, but I don't think I could be conformable carrying any of those on the real (Especially the latter, lol). But yeah, thanks for the input for a potential 'oh god' (or as I would say, 'oh SHIT!') gun. ;) PS - I also saw that 'controversial' section in MPM's talk page (he always has a way of making me feel less conscious about the size of my own personal pages, hah!), and though I didn't actually read it I figured the gist of it was that the antis had discovered us. But that's cool, I think it actually means we're fairly famous and makes us legit, if that makes sense. Bah! [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

::: Down here in Georgia I know about warm summers plenty so that's a good thought. Again, that's why I like being versatile when it comes to those kinda things. It's kinda funny, I thought some guns (most of them semiauto pistols) looked neat and awesome when I was younger but I soon came to find out that those neat guns are mostly 'weeaboos' (Especially stuff like the Desert Eagle and all that, yeesh) - So, I've kinda grown out of that. They are still neat to look at though. But I like to think I'm a practical guy (at least when it comes to serious stuff like this) and I've always found revolvers to be perfectly adequate. I'm not against semiautos either, but I may as well be, especially considering that the guys my age I know are all about them and I'm kinda.. not, heh. Like I said, I'm kinda old-fashioned. Funny enough, the guns I had most exposure to were semiautos - That said, I always wanted to get a SIG P220, now I'm determined to have one, especially since I got the chance to try it out. I shot that boy and it felt real nice, I also helped disassemble it, and everything just looks first-rate in there. It's a good one. But for general carry, especially concealed, I've found a revolver to be it, especially for beginners like myself. And fun, yes.. heh! :) I imagine the badge helps at times, too. Sounds good to me. Thanks again. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

==S&W 27 vs 19==
I watched a film recently and the main cop in the film uses a Smith & Wesson revolver that is definitely either a Model 19 or a Model 27. While the film has very low key lighting throughout making identification difficult, that doesn't really matter considering I cant really tell the difference between the two under almost any circumstances. I compared the images of the two we have on the site but could not see what specific features I could use to differentiate them. Normally when I see one of these weapons something tells me which one it is, and that something is generally right, I can't consciously make a distinction between the two. And since film has, as previously mentioned, a dark tint and low key, shadow filled, lighting, I really can't trust my unconscious identification system. I was hoping you could give me some tips on how to tell these two weapons apart, both because you are very knowledgeable about revolvers and, as the ''[[Payback]]'' article can attest to, you really know how to distinguish Smith & Wesson revolvers from each other. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated and, as can be seen by the back-and-forth between myself and MPM on the ''[[Chicago]]'' article discussion page, detecting minute differences in revolvers is something I have difficulty with in general so if you could try to explain how to spot these differences as simply as possible it would be a big help. Thanks in advance. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:PS. I was reading something on MPM's talk page and saw a comment you posted about IMFDB becoming controversial or something. Are anti-gun people attacking us, or did we commit some copyright infringement or something? I can't see any reason why we would be controversial or frankly even on the radar enough for someone to have a bone to pick with us.

==S&W Response==
Thanks for the help. I always noticed the model 27 was beefier than the model 19 but couldn't place my finger on what about it made it look that way, frame size, ejector shroud thickness, grip size. The tip about the barrel tapper and the cylinder gap will be very useful as they tend to be visible even when the actor's position obscures some other parts of the frame. Why the Anti-gun jerks out there are picking a fight with us I can't understand, however things like this are what should encourage us to make the site as reputable as possible to give them less to pick at. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== The Fly 1986 ==

I just added screencaps and cleaned up the page, so please don't delete. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I'll remember to take the delete tag off next time. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

==Hope you relieve the boredom! ;) LOL hahahaha==
I'm super busy, but I get these patches of hours where I have nothing to do. Don't know if you've noticed but I've been photographing a bunch of weapons that are closer to configurations in certain movies. I got the Mossberg 500 from [[Raw Deal]] and the short SPAS-12 from [[Snatch.]]. I'll be getting the exact Savage 99 from [[Dawn of the Dead (1978)]] soon. But I'm struggling to get a Remington Model 11 Whipit gun (short shotgun). I have one, but the buttstock that was used before being sawn down was weird. I think it was either from another gun or it was a higher end sporting buttstock for the Remington Model 11. I didn't want to use it because of the weird buttstock. I've been trying to find the correct buttstock, buy it, and then saw it down and put it on the gun for the photo. That's my curse. I run into all these hard to find variants ... and there's always SOMETHING wrong with them that makes it not be identical to what was used in the movie .....[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

== The Stand actors ==

First, thanks for adding the poster shots for the films. I'll try to remember to do that in the future.

Second, I noticed that when you changed all the PNG shots from [[The Stand]] to JPG's, the corresponding actor pages weren't changed to reflect this. So, a few of the actor pages such as for [[Richard Lineback]] don't have a screenshot anymore on them. I tried changing some, but I don't know if I got all of them. You might want to check them out to make sure. Thanks. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

==Re: Stevens 67==

Well, thanks, except all I did was add an entry. I have a feeling you meant to message MPM really, as he was the one who enhanced the article and got the new photo. But thanks anyway I guess or.. something. BTW, about your experience in Georgia, that WAS one of the good things. Hah! [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

::Yeah, I was going to say "Hey Stan! Great photo! Where did you get it!" LOL But I figured Jcordell would recognize my pics by now. I guess I was wrong ... LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Smith & Wesson Triple Lock ==

Saw this while wasting an hour on gunbroker, thought you migt find it of interest.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=198361094

- [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

==[[J.C. Higgins Model 20]] shotgun==
I built a page for it if you have any additional info or corrections please feel free. (wasn't sure whether it's a 4 or 5 shot) I tried to find a pic with a white background but didn't find any good ones. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah it's been in a few film so it deserves its own page. Thanks for adding the history. About all I could find that it was made by High Standard. Shame you can't walk into a Sears now and buy a gun. My dad has a H&R single shot 12 gauge Topper that he bought from K-Mart back in 80s can't do that anymore. I surprised Wal-Mart still sells guns. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Wow funny you mention that. About a year ago my dad bought my stepmom a Bersa 380 from a drugstore/gunstore that's a few towns over from us. I couldn't believe it when he told me. But I guess there are a few of them around. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:52, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

==thought you might like this==
[[Image:TaurusModel80early.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Taurus Model 80 with 4 inch barrel T- .38 Special. This gun is from actual movie armorer inventory.]]
A Taurus Model 80 from vintage Movie armorer inventory... :) I will try to get the later model variants with the different grips and front sight. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==WTF?==
Please don't change my page like you did. The poster goes at the top of the page to the farthest most right. I've noticed people doing their own formatting styles, but don't change my style since I am doing it like the pages were when the site first started. I don't like having the summary ABOVE the poster. I know that PhoenixEnt created his own movie page template and his pages have their own look, so I never touched his page format out of respect. I don't want people changing MY page format, which is the way the pages were from the inception of IMFDB. THanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
::Sorry if I seemed like I was ranting. :) I didn't mean to sound harsh. It was just bad timing in that several pages that I formatted were changed to this other format in rapid order by different members. I just hope someone can come up with a format template that puts the poster to the upper right corner of the page. :D Thanks for the note! :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Redirects==
Rather than move the page and then moved it back. Another way is to start a new page with "The" in the title first and have <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Whatever film title, The]]</nowiki> in the summary.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

== Smith & Wesson Models ==

I noticed that you started moving the Smith & Wesson automatics names to models (such as Smith & Wesson 645 to Model 645). I believe that the original intent was to differentiate revolvers from automatics. The intent was that revolvers would get "Model" before the number and S&W Automatics would not. You might want to check with MPM before you continue on. I don't want you to do all that work and then have to change it back. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 18:05, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

::Uh, that's exactly the reason IMFDB originally did it. '''We only designate REVOLVERS as MODEL''', not semiautos or other weapons by S&W. Despite the official name being 'model whatever' we segregated the name since S&W has so many similar sounding numbers. Seriously, if it were an ERROR, one of us MODS would have changed it LONG ago. Sorry, you will have to change it back. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

==J.C. Higgins Model 21==
I think it was used in two other films as well, thought it was an Armscor [[Talk:Armscor M30 Series Shotguns]] Should we rename the page J.C. Higgins Model 20/21?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:Sounds good. Should we do the same with the Stevens 520?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:07, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
::I like older gun magazines. I bought a Mini-14 because of a '74 Gun World article when the Mini was first introduced. While not as old I bought a lot of GUNS magazines dated around '92 thru '94. There was an article on the new .40 S&W Browning Hi-Power, had an article on the classic HP too. Now I have 3 Hi-Powers. I've though about subscribing to Gun Digest. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:27, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

==JC Higgins Model 20==
IMHO, the JC Higgins model 20 is NOT a field grade version of the High Standard shotgun. though they may have shared manufacturers, I have both shotguns now and there are too many minor design elements that are completely different to make the statement :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Electra Glide ==

Thanks for the comment. Surprised it wasn't made before. Happy New Year! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 13:27, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

== Eddie Coyle ==

Hey, I know you're a Mitchum fan so I wanted to let you know I just posted an entry for ''[[The Friends of Eddie Coyle]]'' (great movie, just proves Mitchum only got better as he got older too) and I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a quick look to either add anything I may have left out or straightened up some details I might have gotten wrong. I had the article half-written before my Internet bombed out so I had to re-do it all and would like to make sure my facts are straight. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 09:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Hickey& Boggs ==

It's available streaming on Netflix. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't bother with the DVD, I've read that the transfer is terrible. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:16, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

== FBI HRT vs. SWAT ==

The [http://www.fbijobs.gov/116.asp Hostage Rescue Team] and the [http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/capabilities/fbi-swat-graphic Special Weapons And Tactics] teams are two different units within the FBI. --[[User:Pz.Abt.100|X-Ray Bravo 6]] 16:50, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

==American Gangster==
The page is still incomplete; there's no screenshot for the M16 / M203 combo.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 04:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Screencapping Magnum ==

I wasn't planning on doing any more episodes. I'm just finishing up the screencaps I have from that particular one (since that's the one I remember was especially weapons heavy). You can go ahead with doing the others. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:46, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

== link errors ==

Working on it... new server seems to be choking...
:Working on the Smith & Wesson error, it seems to be a problem in the way the server is displaying the ampersand. & vs %26... [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 19:57, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

==The Missing==
I've had the same problem with certain edits too, just not as often. It seems to come and go at random.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 01:02, 14 March 2011 (MSK)

:If you're still having problems getting your edits to take, I think I've found a quick fix. About half the time I make an edit without previewing they don't take, but they work every time so long as I use the "Show preview" feature before saving.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:59, 16 March 2011 (CDT)

== Lee Enfield caption. ==

First: I don't know of anyone appointing you LordGod of this site. I don't take kindly to people giving me orders. So knock it off. I changed the caption on the Lee-Enfield page because it was wrong--which is confirmed by the photographer (MoviePropMaster2008 9 -- see article Talk page). If you object to an edit I've made you can certainly do so politely and without the ridiculous attitude.

I CAN prove that I'm right. The information comes from an illustrated book about small arms. As the photo is copyrighted I can hardly simply post it. Therefore, I'll place a source note. Combined with MovePropMaster2008's post should settle the issue once and for all.

Remember: this stuff hardly matters on any existential level at all.

[[User:PainMan356|PainMan356]] 11:02, 2 April 2011 (CDT)

Lee-Enfield rifle series

2010-12-15T07:54:35Z

PainMan356: /* Birmingham Small Arms Lee-Speed Sporter */

[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield Mk II - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the Great War, introduced in 1903, it has seen action throughout the 20th century.]]
[[Image:LeeEnfield4Rifle.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during World War Two, however, it was supplemented heavily with the older Lee Enfield Mk II. First placed in service with the British military in 1941.]]
[[Image:Smle4mk1t.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I(T) with magazine and scope - .303 British]]
[[Image:No5JungleCarbine.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.5 Jungle Carbine - .303 British. This is not a chopped down No. 4 conversion (like many jungle carbines are) but an original No.5]]
[[Image:R LITHGOW SMLE 1941.jpg|thumb|right|450px|SMLE Mk.III* / Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. The most common World War One rifle, in service between 1907–Present Day]]
[[Image:Leemk1.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield Mk.I - .303 British. In service between 1896-1907]]
[[Image:LeeEnfield303RIC.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield issued to the Royal Irish Constabulary]]
[[Image:Ishapore2A1.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Ishapore 2A1 - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
The Lee-Enfield is a series of bolt-action rifles and carbines that were designed by Scottish-born gun designer James Paris Lee (1831-1904) and the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield Lock, Great Britain; to replace the Lee-Metford series bolt-action rifles and carbines (a series of bolt-action rifles and carbines that were designed by James Paris Lee and William Ellis Metford) when the British armed forces adopted smokeless gun powder in the late 19th century. The Lee-Enfield series of bolt-action rifles and carbines saw extensive service with the armed forces of Great Britain and the nations, colonies, and dominion states of the British Empire/British Commonwealth from 1895, until the rifles were replaced from frontline military service in 1957 by the British version of the [[FN FAL]] rifle, the L1A1 Self Loading Rifle.

'''Specifications'''
*Weight: ~4 kg (8.8 lb) depending on wood density
*Length: 1,130 mm (44.5 in)
*Barrel length: 635 mm (25 in)
*Cartridge: .303 Mk VII SAA Ball
*Action: Bolt-action
*Muzzle velocity: 744 m/s (2,441 ft/s)
*Effective range: 550 yards (503 m)[2]
*Maximum range: 2,000 yd (1,829 m)
*Feed system: 10-round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips
*Sights: Sliding ramp rear sights, Fixed-post front sights, "Dial" long-range volley sights (deleted on MkIII* and later); Telescopic sights on Sniper models
*Rate of fire: between 15 to 30 rounds/minute

'''The Lee-Enfield rifle and variants can be seen in the following movies and video games:'''
== Short Magazine Lee-Enfield rifle ==
This includes all examples of the SMLE or Lee Enfield Bolt action rifle from it's introduction to the last widely-distributed version.

===Film===
* Australian and British soldiers in ''[[Beneath Hill 60]]'' (2010)

* British soldiers in ''[[Trench, The|The Trench]]'' (1999)

* British soldiers in ''[[Atonement]]'' (2007)

* ''[[No Blade Of Grass]]'' (1970)

* ''[[Bridge on the River Kwai, The|The Bridge on the River Kwai]]'' (1957)

* Czech troops in ''[[Tobruk]]'' (2008)

* [[Daniel Radcliffe]] as Lieutenant Jack Kipling in ''[[My Boy Jack]]'' (2007)

* Australian soldiers in [[Kokoda]]

* Australian and British soldiers in ''[[Breaker Morant]]'' (2010)

* [[Edward Woodward]] as Harry 'Breaker' Morant in ''[[Breaker Morant]]'' (1980)

* [[Richard Dormer]] as Corporal John O'Leary in ''[[My Boy Jack]]'' (2007)

* Shiite refugee in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* Kamal Khan's guards in ''[[Octopussy]]''

* Afghan Mujahideen in ''[[The Beast of War]]''

* Holstered in a motorbike sidecar in ''[[Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome]]''

* Lee Enfield Mk I filling in for Martini-Henrys due to a shortage of .455 blanks in ''[[Zulu]]'' (1964)

* Paul Hogan as Mick Dundee in ''[[Crocodile Dundee]]''

* British troops in ''[[A Bridge Too Far]]''

* British troops in ''[[The Longest Day]]'' (1963)

* [[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]] as Lock-Nah in ''[[The Mummy Returns]]''

* British and IRA forces in ''[[Michael Collins]]''

* An IRA member in ''[[Bloody Sunday]]'' (2001)

* British Army soldiers in ''[[The Water Horse]]''

* British and Indian Army soldiers in ''[[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]]''

* Oceanian soldiers in ''[[1984 (film) | 1984]]''

* [[Kevin Eldon]] as Sgt. Tony Fisher in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]''

* British soldiers and public school students in ''[[If...]]''

* ''[[Paper Tiger]]''

* ''[[Rambo III]]''

* ''[[Farewell To The King]]''

* ''[[You Only Live Twice]]''

* ''[[Kelly's Heroes]]''

* ''[[Transformers]]'' (2007)

* [[Carl Weathers]] as Sundog/George Washington Lincoln Brown in ''[[Death Hunt]]''

* ''[[Help! (1965 film)]]''

* ''[[Too Late the Hero]]'' (1970)

* ''[[Zulu]]''

* Prof. Nathan Phipps ([[William Langlois]]) in ''[[Curse of the Komodo]]'' )

* ''[[Zardoz]]''

* ''[[Hell's Angels]]'' (1930)

* ''[[Monty Python's The Meaning of Life]]''

* Greek soldier in ''[[The Hunters]]'' (1958)

* ''[[Sahara]]'' (1943)

* British soldiers in ''[[All The King Men]]'' (1999)

* ''[[No Blade Of Grass]]''

* ''[[Secondhand Lions]]''

* ''[[Richard III]]''

* ''[[Assembly (Ji jie hao)]]''

* Royal Navy sailors in ''[[Dr. No]]''

* ''[[Three to Go - Michael (1969)| Three to Go - Michael]]'' (1969)

* ''[[Goldfinger]]''

* ''[[The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]''

* Rebels and British and Indian soldiers in ''[[Northwest Frontier]]'' (1959)

* British soldiers in ''[[Giant Behemoth, The|The Giant Behemoth]]'' (1959)

* ''[[Lost Battalion, The|The Lost Battalion]]'' (No4 MkI)

===Television===

* ''[[Doctor Who (New series)]]''

* ''[[The War Game (1965)]]''

* ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]''

* ''[[The Professionals]]''

* ''[[24: Redemption]]''

* ''[[Rebel Heart]]''

*''[[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]''(In Lex's mansion on display behind glass)

* ''[[Weaponology]]''

* ''[[Rat Patrol]]''

* Buffer and Kate in ''[[Sea Patrol]]''

* ''[[Blackadder Goes Forth]]''

===Video Games ===

* ''[[Battlefield: 1942]]''

* ''[[Project Reality]]''

* British Army soldiers in ''[[Medal of Honor: Frontline]]'' (non-playable)

* ''[[Medal of Honor: Heroes]]'' (as the "Enfield Rifle")

* ''[[Call of Duty]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty: Finest Hour]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 2]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 3]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts]]''

* ''[[Silent Storm]]'' (standard and sniper versions)

* ''[[Timesplitters: Future Perfect]]''

* ''[[Commandos: Men Of Courage]]''

* ''[[Hidden And Dangerous]]''

* ''[[9th Company: Roots of Terror]]''

* ''[[Eternal Darkness]]'' (2001)

===Animation===

* ''[[Atlantis, The Lost Empire]]''

== Enfield Enforcer/L42A1 sniper rifle ==
[[Image:Enfieldenforcer.jpg|thumb|right|none|500px|Enfield Enforcer - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

===Film===

* [[Brad Pitt]] as Tom Bishop in ''[[Spy Game]]''.
* Mumbai police officers in ''[[Shootout at Lokhandwala]]''
* British Army soldier in ''[[Doomsday]]'' (with thumbhole stock and Harris bipod)

===Video Games===

* ''[[Hitman: Contracts]]''

* ''[[Insurgency]]''

* ''[[Manhunt]]''

* ''[[Manhunt 2]]''
 

== Birmingham Small Arms Lee-Speed Sporter ==
[[Image:BSArifles.jpg|thumb|right|350px|none|Two well preserved specimens of Lee-Speed Sporters.]]
The Lee-Speed was popular with British officers and other hunters who wanted a fine rifle, but couldn't afford the expensive double barrel rifles made by Purdy, Holland & Holland and other famous ,and expensive, British gun makers. The Lee-Speed was popular because it fired the British service round (.303 British) though it was also manufactured in other calibers. The "Lee - Speed" had the same action as the Lee-Enfield bolt action rifle, which allowed many British hunters and colonists in Africa to obtain spare parts and ammunition from British Army units based in Britain's African colonies during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

===Film===

* [[Val Kilmer]] as Col. John Patterson in ''[[Ghost and the Darkness, The|The Ghost and the Darkness]]'' (1996)

* [[Rachel Weisz]] as Evelyn Carnahan O'Connell in ''[[The Mummy Returns]]'' (2001)

* [[Gavin Hood]] as Bruce McNabb in ''[[King Solomon's Mines (2004)]]''

* [[Benicio del Toro]] as Lawrence Talbot in ''[[Wolfman, The (2010)|The Wolfman]]'' (2010)

 

==Background & Usage==
Despite being removed from frontline service in 1957, the Lee-Enfield saw extensive use as a secondary infantry rifle with reserve forces as well as use as a sniper rifle by the British military. In 2008, nations like India, Pakistan, Nepal and Canada still use the Lee-Enfield rifle as a standard issue rifle to police forces and to reserve military units. In the case of Canada, the Canadian Rangers are still using the Lee-Enfield No.4 rifle as their standard-issue rifle. In the case of India and Pakistan, the Lee-Enfield is used by the police forces of both nations with the Indians utilizing a 7.62mm NATO version of the No.1 MkIII* rifle called the Indian 2A/2A1 rifle. Australia still manufacture/convert Lee-Enfield's as hunting/plinking weapons in a range of calibres from 7.62mm NATO and the Soviet 7.62x39mm M43 with Australian International Arms (AIA) manufacturing modern versions of the Lee-Enfield rifle for the civilian firearms market.

The Lee-Enfield rifle saw extensive use in many military conflicts from the late 19th century to the present day (easily outstripping the length of service the Mosin-Nagant rifle has achieved) with Lee-Enfields being used in conflicts like the Second Boer War, the First World War, the Second World War, the Korean War, the Malayan Emergency, the Suez Canal Crisis, and the Mau Mau Uprising. The Lee-Enfield was also extensively used by the Mudjahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s. The Lee-Enfield has also seen extensive use in the hands of insurgents and warring factions recently in nations like Nepal (where both Nepalese Government forces and Maoist guerrillas used the Lee-Enfield rifle), Afghanistan, Iraq, India (with both the Indian government forces and the Naxalite Maoist rebels being seen armed with SMLEs and various firearms) and the Solomon Islands (where many of the warring factions in the Solomon Islands were seen armed with Lee-Enfield No.4 rifles stolen from military and police armories during the civil unrest that occurred on the islands during the late 1990s/early 2000s).

Unlike Mauser-derived bolt-action rifles (with their 5 round internal magazines and "cock on opening" bolt systems), the Lee-Enfield series of bolt-action rifles and carbines have a 10-round detachable magazine and a "cock on closing" bolt system. Alone among combatants in World War I, the British Army was made up of long service professional soldiers who were given extra ammunition to improve their marksmanship. The phrase "fifteen rounds a minute" was indeed the standard most British soldiers achieved. This rate of fire was often mistaken by German troops for machine gun fire. Standard British firing procedure, before and during the Great War, was to insert a fresh round after firing, thus saving the magazine for truly desperate situations.

It is extremely unlikely that any other troops have ever achieved such a high rate of fire with a bolt action rifle--especially untrained, or poorly trained, guerillas, terrorists, "insurgents" and soldiers.

Between 1895 and 1957, around 17 million Lee-Enfields have been produced and, as of 2010; are still in circulation today.

==References==
*SMLE Mk II: Dougherty, Martin J., ''Small Arms: From the Civil War to the Present'' Fall River: 2005, page 81
*Lee-Enfield rate of fire: Keegan, Sir John, ''The First World War'' Key Porter: 1998, page 98
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[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Sniper Rifle]]
[[Category:Battle Rifle]]

Lee-Enfield rifle series

2010-12-15T07:52:57Z

PainMan356: /* Background & Usage */

[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield Mk II - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the Great War, introduced in 1903, it has seen action throughout the 20th century.]]
[[Image:LeeEnfield4Rifle.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during World War Two, however, it was supplemented heavily with the older Lee Enfield Mk II. First placed in service with the British military in 1941.]]
[[Image:Smle4mk1t.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I(T) with magazine and scope - .303 British]]
[[Image:No5JungleCarbine.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.5 Jungle Carbine - .303 British. This is not a chopped down No. 4 conversion (like many jungle carbines are) but an original No.5]]
[[Image:R LITHGOW SMLE 1941.jpg|thumb|right|450px|SMLE Mk.III* / Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. The most common World War One rifle, in service between 1907–Present Day]]
[[Image:Leemk1.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield Mk.I - .303 British. In service between 1896-1907]]
[[Image:LeeEnfield303RIC.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield issued to the Royal Irish Constabulary]]
[[Image:Ishapore2A1.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Ishapore 2A1 - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
The Lee-Enfield is a series of bolt-action rifles and carbines that were designed by Scottish-born gun designer James Paris Lee (1831-1904) and the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield Lock, Great Britain; to replace the Lee-Metford series bolt-action rifles and carbines (a series of bolt-action rifles and carbines that were designed by James Paris Lee and William Ellis Metford) when the British armed forces adopted smokeless gun powder in the late 19th century. The Lee-Enfield series of bolt-action rifles and carbines saw extensive service with the armed forces of Great Britain and the nations, colonies, and dominion states of the British Empire/British Commonwealth from 1895, until the rifles were replaced from frontline military service in 1957 by the British version of the [[FN FAL]] rifle, the L1A1 Self Loading Rifle.

'''Specifications'''
*Weight: ~4 kg (8.8 lb) depending on wood density
*Length: 1,130 mm (44.5 in)
*Barrel length: 635 mm (25 in)
*Cartridge: .303 Mk VII SAA Ball
*Action: Bolt-action
*Muzzle velocity: 744 m/s (2,441 ft/s)
*Effective range: 550 yards (503 m)[2]
*Maximum range: 2,000 yd (1,829 m)
*Feed system: 10-round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips
*Sights: Sliding ramp rear sights, Fixed-post front sights, "Dial" long-range volley sights (deleted on MkIII* and later); Telescopic sights on Sniper models
*Rate of fire: between 15 to 30 rounds/minute

'''The Lee-Enfield rifle and variants can be seen in the following movies and video games:'''
== Short Magazine Lee-Enfield rifle ==
This includes all examples of the SMLE or Lee Enfield Bolt action rifle from it's introduction to the last widely-distributed version.

===Film===
* Australian and British soldiers in ''[[Beneath Hill 60]]'' (2010)

* British soldiers in ''[[Trench, The|The Trench]]'' (1999)

* British soldiers in ''[[Atonement]]'' (2007)

* ''[[No Blade Of Grass]]'' (1970)

* ''[[Bridge on the River Kwai, The|The Bridge on the River Kwai]]'' (1957)

* Czech troops in ''[[Tobruk]]'' (2008)

* [[Daniel Radcliffe]] as Lieutenant Jack Kipling in ''[[My Boy Jack]]'' (2007)

* Australian soldiers in [[Kokoda]]

* Australian and British soldiers in ''[[Breaker Morant]]'' (2010)

* [[Edward Woodward]] as Harry 'Breaker' Morant in ''[[Breaker Morant]]'' (1980)

* [[Richard Dormer]] as Corporal John O'Leary in ''[[My Boy Jack]]'' (2007)

* Shiite refugee in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* Kamal Khan's guards in ''[[Octopussy]]''

* Afghan Mujahideen in ''[[The Beast of War]]''

* Holstered in a motorbike sidecar in ''[[Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome]]''

* Lee Enfield Mk I filling in for Martini-Henrys due to a shortage of .455 blanks in ''[[Zulu]]'' (1964)

* Paul Hogan as Mick Dundee in ''[[Crocodile Dundee]]''

* British troops in ''[[A Bridge Too Far]]''

* British troops in ''[[The Longest Day]]'' (1963)

* [[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]] as Lock-Nah in ''[[The Mummy Returns]]''

* British and IRA forces in ''[[Michael Collins]]''

* An IRA member in ''[[Bloody Sunday]]'' (2001)

* British Army soldiers in ''[[The Water Horse]]''

* British and Indian Army soldiers in ''[[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]]''

* Oceanian soldiers in ''[[1984 (film) | 1984]]''

* [[Kevin Eldon]] as Sgt. Tony Fisher in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]''

* British soldiers and public school students in ''[[If...]]''

* ''[[Paper Tiger]]''

* ''[[Rambo III]]''

* ''[[Farewell To The King]]''

* ''[[You Only Live Twice]]''

* ''[[Kelly's Heroes]]''

* ''[[Transformers]]'' (2007)

* [[Carl Weathers]] as Sundog/George Washington Lincoln Brown in ''[[Death Hunt]]''

* ''[[Help! (1965 film)]]''

* ''[[Too Late the Hero]]'' (1970)

* ''[[Zulu]]''

* Prof. Nathan Phipps ([[William Langlois]]) in ''[[Curse of the Komodo]]'' )

* ''[[Zardoz]]''

* ''[[Hell's Angels]]'' (1930)

* ''[[Monty Python's The Meaning of Life]]''

* Greek soldier in ''[[The Hunters]]'' (1958)

* ''[[Sahara]]'' (1943)

* British soldiers in ''[[All The King Men]]'' (1999)

* ''[[No Blade Of Grass]]''

* ''[[Secondhand Lions]]''

* ''[[Richard III]]''

* ''[[Assembly (Ji jie hao)]]''

* Royal Navy sailors in ''[[Dr. No]]''

* ''[[Three to Go - Michael (1969)| Three to Go - Michael]]'' (1969)

* ''[[Goldfinger]]''

* ''[[The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]''

* Rebels and British and Indian soldiers in ''[[Northwest Frontier]]'' (1959)

* British soldiers in ''[[Giant Behemoth, The|The Giant Behemoth]]'' (1959)

* ''[[Lost Battalion, The|The Lost Battalion]]'' (No4 MkI)

===Television===

* ''[[Doctor Who (New series)]]''

* ''[[The War Game (1965)]]''

* ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]''

* ''[[The Professionals]]''

* ''[[24: Redemption]]''

* ''[[Rebel Heart]]''

*''[[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]''(In Lex's mansion on display behind glass)

* ''[[Weaponology]]''

* ''[[Rat Patrol]]''

* Buffer and Kate in ''[[Sea Patrol]]''

* ''[[Blackadder Goes Forth]]''

===Video Games ===

* ''[[Battlefield: 1942]]''

* ''[[Project Reality]]''

* British Army soldiers in ''[[Medal of Honor: Frontline]]'' (non-playable)

* ''[[Medal of Honor: Heroes]]'' (as the "Enfield Rifle")

* ''[[Call of Duty]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty: Finest Hour]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 2]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 3]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts]]''

* ''[[Silent Storm]]'' (standard and sniper versions)

* ''[[Timesplitters: Future Perfect]]''

* ''[[Commandos: Men Of Courage]]''

* ''[[Hidden And Dangerous]]''

* ''[[9th Company: Roots of Terror]]''

* ''[[Eternal Darkness]]'' (2001)

===Animation===

* ''[[Atlantis, The Lost Empire]]''

== Enfield Enforcer/L42A1 sniper rifle ==
[[Image:Enfieldenforcer.jpg|thumb|right|none|500px|Enfield Enforcer - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

===Film===

* [[Brad Pitt]] as Tom Bishop in ''[[Spy Game]]''.
* Mumbai police officers in ''[[Shootout at Lokhandwala]]''
* British Army soldier in ''[[Doomsday]]'' (with thumbhole stock and Harris bipod)

===Video Games===

* ''[[Hitman: Contracts]]''

* ''[[Insurgency]]''

* ''[[Manhunt]]''

* ''[[Manhunt 2]]''
 

== Birmingham Small Arms Lee-Speed Sporter ==
[[Image:BSArifles.jpg|thumb|right|350px|none|Two well preserved specimens of Lee-Speed Sporters.]]
The Lee-Speed was popular with British officers and other hunters who wanted a fine rifle, but couldn't afford the expensive double barrel rifles made by Purdy, Holland & Holland and other famous ,and expensive, British gun makers. The Lee-Speed was popular because it fired the British service round (.303 British) though it was also manufactured in other calibers. The "Lee - Speed" had the same action as the Lee-Enfield bolt action rifle, which allowed many British hunters and colonists in Africa to source spare parts and ammunition from British Army units based in Britain's African colonies during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

===Film===

* [[Val Kilmer]] as Col. John Patterson in ''[[Ghost and the Darkness, The|The Ghost and the Darkness]]'' (1996)

* [[Rachel Weisz]] as Evelyn Carnahan O'Connell in ''[[The Mummy Returns]]'' (2001)

* [[Gavin Hood]] as Bruce McNabb in ''[[King Solomon's Mines (2004)]]''

* [[Benicio del Toro]] as Lawrence Talbot in ''[[Wolfman, The (2010)|The Wolfman]]'' (2010)

 

==Background & Usage==
Despite being removed from frontline service in 1957, the Lee-Enfield saw extensive use as a secondary infantry rifle with reserve forces as well as use as a sniper rifle by the British military. In 2008, nations like India, Pakistan, Nepal and Canada still use the Lee-Enfield rifle as a standard issue rifle to police forces and to reserve military units. In the case of Canada, the Canadian Rangers are still using the Lee-Enfield No.4 rifle as their standard-issue rifle. In the case of India and Pakistan, the Lee-Enfield is used by the police forces of both nations with the Indians utilizing a 7.62mm NATO version of the No.1 MkIII* rifle called the Indian 2A/2A1 rifle. Australia still manufacture/convert Lee-Enfield's as hunting/plinking weapons in a range of calibres from 7.62mm NATO and the Soviet 7.62x39mm M43 with Australian International Arms (AIA) manufacturing modern versions of the Lee-Enfield rifle for the civilian firearms market.

The Lee-Enfield rifle saw extensive use in many military conflicts from the late 19th century to the present day (easily outstripping the length of service the Mosin-Nagant rifle has achieved) with Lee-Enfields being used in conflicts like the Second Boer War, the First World War, the Second World War, the Korean War, the Malayan Emergency, the Suez Canal Crisis, and the Mau Mau Uprising. The Lee-Enfield was also extensively used by the Mudjahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s. The Lee-Enfield has also seen extensive use in the hands of insurgents and warring factions recently in nations like Nepal (where both Nepalese Government forces and Maoist guerrillas used the Lee-Enfield rifle), Afghanistan, Iraq, India (with both the Indian government forces and the Naxalite Maoist rebels being seen armed with SMLEs and various firearms) and the Solomon Islands (where many of the warring factions in the Solomon Islands were seen armed with Lee-Enfield No.4 rifles stolen from military and police armories during the civil unrest that occurred on the islands during the late 1990s/early 2000s).

Unlike Mauser-derived bolt-action rifles (with their 5 round internal magazines and "cock on opening" bolt systems), the Lee-Enfield series of bolt-action rifles and carbines have a 10-round detachable magazine and a "cock on closing" bolt system. Alone among combatants in World War I, the British Army was made up of long service professional soldiers who were given extra ammunition to improve their marksmanship. The phrase "fifteen rounds a minute" was indeed the standard most British soldiers achieved. This rate of fire was often mistaken by German troops for machine gun fire. Standard British firing procedure, before and during the Great War, was to insert a fresh round after firing, thus saving the magazine for truly desperate situations.

It is extremely unlikely that any other troops have ever achieved such a high rate of fire with a bolt action rifle--especially untrained, or poorly trained, guerillas, terrorists, "insurgents" and soldiers.

Between 1895 and 1957, around 17 million Lee-Enfields have been produced and, as of 2010; are still in circulation today.

==References==
*SMLE Mk II: Dougherty, Martin J., ''Small Arms: From the Civil War to the Present'' Fall River: 2005, page 81
*Lee-Enfield rate of fire: Keegan, Sir John, ''The First World War'' Key Porter: 1998, page 98
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Sniper Rifle]]
[[Category:Battle Rifle]]

Talk:Lee-Enfield rifle series

2010-12-15T07:49:46Z

PainMan356: /* Error regarding Lee-Enfield Mark III */

The SMLE is a specific variant of the Lee-Enfield used in WW1 and early WW2, also known as the No.1 Mk.III. Seeing as alot of the time the rifles in these movies and games are actually No.4s, maybe it would be better to call this article "Lee-Enfield RIfle" and separate it into sections for the various models, like was done with the M-16? - Nyles

=== Current USE? ===
From what I know, no 'front line' terrorist (I refuse to dignify them by calling them insurgents) uses the SMLE, even in Afghanistan. Some tribal villagers do hold and carry them, but they're private individuals. I asked three Army commanders who were in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and the only time they ever saw SMLEs were in piles of old stashes of weapons, rusting, and they were extremely rare. Most of the enemy weapons are AKs and other Soviet weaponry. So I would not consider the SMLE as a weapon currently being used by a recognized force. Please, opinions on this anyone? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:I never seen any insurgents or terrorists using SMLEs in my life.[[Oliveira]]
::I agree. I brought it up because a contributor wrote ''"the rifle is still seeing use in the hands of enemy combatants in both Iraq and Afghanistan against US and Allied military forces."'' Personally I've never seen an enemy combatant (after the early 1980s during the Russian invasion) using Lee Enfields and certainly not NOW during the 21st century. I brought it up the first time because I am interested in seeing what proof the original writer had for that statement. Could be just a brain fart. Lord knows I've written those myself on IMFDB in the past ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

MPM2008 and co.

Here's some links regarding the current use of the Lee-Enfield rifle in the Middle East and South Asia.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,137040,00.html?ESRC=army.nl

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200871212157.asp

P.S. MPM2008. Thanks for posting up those Lee-Enfield pictures. I really like those pictures and the other gun pictures you've posted in recent times. [[Roughneck Jase]]
::Thanks for the compliment and the links. BUT... these links actually support my initial point that the Enfields aren't being used by '''active combatants''' in Iraq OR Afghanistan any more. I'm a Vet of ODS and I have LOTS of friends who are actively serving or served during OEF or OIF and everyone said that they found caches of old weapons, at NO TIME have any hostile forces ever used these antiquated weapons in a combat action. Why would they? They have tons of full auto AKs, RPKS, PKMSs, RPGs, etc. Again, I stand by my assertion that, though people dig up buried caches of antique weapons all the time in Afghanistan and Iraq, that's exactly what they are, "Caches of Antiques", not weapons any active terrorist would use. In fact the only enemy snipers encountered in Iraq used either Dragunovs, Romanian PSLs or the Iraqi Tabuk Rifle. I say over and over again, NO Enfields are being used by anyone as a front line weapon any more. They ARE all over the place in family collections in Baghdad or used by Goat Herders in the mountains of Tora Bora, but that's civilian ownership, not an active combat rifle. Running into an 80 year old tribal goat shepard with an Enfield, doesn't count towards that rifle being a 'battle weapon'. And certainly finding piles of them buried in the sand doesn't count either. I hope people kinda understand what I'm getting at. :) And thanks for the links and comment. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

MPM2008,

Let's just say that we "agree to disagree" about the Lee-Enfield's current use in todays battlefield's in the Middle East and South Asia. What I'm trying to say is that rifles like the Lee-Enfield are among the many weapons at the disposal of various waring factions and insurgents in the Middle East and South Asia and if I was an Australian soldier (I'm an Aussie BTW) serving in either Iraq or Afghanistan, I wouldn't underestimate an insurgent armed with a rifle like the Lee-Enfield (or the Mauser 98 or the Mosin-Nagant). Besides, rifles like the Lee-Enfield are still potent infantry rifles by today's standards. [[Roughneck Jase]]

:I think you're missing the point. No one discounts the usefulness of the enfield. He said that they were not used in combat, just owned by people. Like the .22 rifle (1022 ruger) is owned all over the U.S. by people, cops, soldiers, but it's not considered a combat rifle of the USA though it has been used in the past (the silenced version) for covert OPs. I've never heard of any of the warring factions actually using the Enfiled anymore either.

=== Enfield Enforcer ===
Shouldn't that article be merged with this one? I mean it's the same rifle only with a caliber conversion? [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== Lee Enfield is not that good. ==

I really don't understand why people think the Lee Enfield is such a great gun, when you compare it to the Mauser 98 it's just not that good. Here is one reason why this is true http://books.google.com/books?id=TM9YS52R34AC&pg=PA179&lpg=PA179&dq=mauser+lee+enfield+military&source=bl&ots=74eS9rbmZo&sig=Ez0ojuyBXFYP3elaVQACpTwkbcQ&hl=en&ei=jz7ySdWeMZ-stgeu_qSjDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4 . The Lee Enfield is an underpowered rifle , it uses a rimmed cartridge , the bolt action is only slightly faster than a Mauser type (it would need to be measured in milliseconds), the bolt action is not as strong as the Mauser type, its ten round mag still needs to be loaded by 2 stripper clips, its rimmed cartridge can cause many problems with the rifle, the Lee Enfield is bulkier than the Mauser type, its feeding and extraction is not as good as the Mauser type, it is not as accurate, it is not as reliable, the Mauser rifle series has 102 million military rifles built from 1871 to the 1950's, and that is not including all of the modern hunting and military sniper rifles built right now. There are still many more reasons why the Lee Enfield is not as good as the Mauser type.

sure you might have a argument but to be honest just about no one on here cares

Who you talking to. Me or the LE hater?--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 09:22, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

:::Mauser Guy: the points you make seem pettifogging (e.g.:"underpowered"? A .303 round? You've got to be kidding!). Not only since these are obsolete weapons (from the military standpoint), but because both rifles did their job in the trenches of the Great War, slaughtering German, French and British troops in the hundreds of thousands, as well as during its conclusion (i.e. WWII) and beyond. Though I doubt any German soldier would have wanted to face an M-1 Garand--let alone a Tommy Gun or a PPSh--with his Mauser!

:::If ''Call of Duty 5: World at War'' has it right, soldiers carrying bolt action rifles (excepting snipers of course) were at a serious disadvantage against troops with more "modern" weaponry. As Martin Dougherty puts it: "[The self-loading rifle] has proven [itself] many times over in urban, jungle and hedgerow actions (i.e. the ''bocage'' country in Normandy)."
:::[[User:PainMan356|PainMan356]] 07:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

::::PainMan356: Here's a link that I found on the good ol' Internets a while back in what kind of guns the Taliban insurgents are currently using on a regular basis...

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/whats-inside-a-taliban-gun-locker/

It goes to show that the Lee-Enfield (and the Mosin-Nagant) is still seeing action in Afghanistan today. Take that you Mauser fanboy! [[Roughneck Jase]] 17:36PM AEST, 15 December 2010.

== A retort to our Mauser fan ==

The extractor claw on the Mauser 98 bolt head would fill up with dirt at times in the conditions of the trenches. That could be an issue if the soldiers weren't on top of it. Also the Mauser actions cocks on opening. Once again the conditons found in the trenches coud play into that design. There are accounts of the Mauser being rather balky when a soldier went to open it in a hurry. The Lee Enfield cocked on closing. In the dirt and general nastiness of the trenches the LE design was found to be more reliable.

The old 7.92mm Mauser round was/is more powerful than the .303 British,but not enough to make a difference.For example Canadians have been killing Moose, Elk, Caribou, bear and even the occassional Grizzley with the .303 for decades. How do you consider that to be underpowered? I'm here to tell you that all those animals take a whole lot more killing than a human being. Hell there were even British hunters who took elephants and lions in Africa with the .303 in the late 19th and early 20th century. I only mention this because you seem to be focused on the sporting application vs. combat application.

The Mauser is a great design and is a terrific base for a sporting rifle. Very strong and accurate.Yes it will "outsnipe" the LE but whne you're talking combat the differences aren't all that significant. The LE is a better ''Combat'' design. Your points are valid but they apply more to hunting and target then combat. The old L4A1 sniper pattern of the No. 4 was also very accurate. It wasn't a Winchester Model 70, but it worked well enough for the SAS in Yemen in the seventies.

The various Commonwealth soldiers knew about the loading issue when it came to the .303 rimmed design. They ensured that the bullets were loaded into the stripper clips properly. And in my opinion ten rounds is still better than five rounds. You still have double the ammo. It's interesting that you had to stretch and say that the LE soldiers "only" had ten rounds in their magazine at the beginning of an action.

I think what it really comes down to is you're a fan of the Mauser design. So am I, but I don't instantly disregard another design. The LE provided honorable service to the Brits and the other Commonwealth nations for sixty plus years. Actually more because India used it into the seventies.Would it really have lasted that long if the LE design was as poor as you said? I think not. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

'''Well I guess the Mauser fan didn't want to play. I've been waiting for over four months. Oh well'''.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Error regarding "Lee-Enfield Mark III" ==

The weapon labeled "Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III*" is, in fact, properly named the '''"SMLE Mk II"''' (or Short Magazine Lee Enfield), also known, amongst the soldiers who used it, as the "Smellie".

This has been corrected. I can produce an illustration (albeit a copyrighted one) from the book listed below to prove that I am correct.

My source:

''Small Arms: From the Civil War to the Present Day'' by Martin J. Dougherty (Fall River, 2005), page 81.

Also, the assertion that the Lee-Enfield could fire up to 30 rounds a minute is not tenable. Sir John Keegan, the world's leading military historian, writes that 15 rounds a minute was the rate of fire achieved by British troops in combat. And given the Royal Army's justly deserved reputation as a "guild of sharpshooters" it is unlikely that any other troops have ever achieved such a high rate of fire with a bolt action rifle--especially untrained, or badly trained, guerillas, terrorists and "insurgents" and soldiers.

Example: During the Falklands War, both sides used the FN FAL. The Argentines used a fully automatic version while the British troops used a semi-automatic version and defeated their enemy in every infantry encounter. Thus fully vindicating the Royal Army's rep for superior marksmanship. And quick trigger fingers!

[[User:PainMan356|PainMan356]] 07:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Lee-Enfield rifle series

2010-12-15T07:42:34Z

PainMan356: the picture captioned as the SMLE Mk III is in error; the weapon shown is, in fact, the SMLE Mk II; I can produce an illustration to prove my point; rate of fire was 15 rds/min not 30!

[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield Mk II - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the Great War, introduced in 1903, it has seen action throughout the 20th century.]]
[[Image:LeeEnfield4Rifle.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during World War Two, however, it was supplemented heavily with the older Lee Enfield Mk II. First placed in service with the British military in 1941.]]
[[Image:Smle4mk1t.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I(T) with magazine and scope - .303 British]]
[[Image:No5JungleCarbine.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield No.5 Jungle Carbine - .303 British. This is not a chopped down No. 4 conversion (like many jungle carbines are) but an original No.5]]
[[Image:R LITHGOW SMLE 1941.jpg|thumb|right|450px|SMLE Mk.III* / Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. The most common World War One rifle, in service between 1907–Present Day]]
[[Image:Leemk1.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield Mk.I - .303 British. In service between 1896-1907]]
[[Image:LeeEnfield303RIC.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Lee-Enfield issued to the Royal Irish Constabulary]]
[[Image:Ishapore2A1.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Ishapore 2A1 - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
The Lee-Enfield is a series of bolt-action rifles and carbines that were designed by Scottish-born gun designer James Paris Lee (1831-1904) and the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield Lock, Great Britain; to replace the Lee-Metford series bolt-action rifles and carbines (a series of bolt-action rifles and carbines that were designed by James Paris Lee and William Ellis Metford) when the British armed forces adopted smokeless gun powder in the late 19th century. The Lee-Enfield series of bolt-action rifles and carbines saw extensive service with the armed forces of Great Britain and the nations, colonies, and dominion states of the British Empire/British Commonwealth from 1895, until the rifles were replaced from frontline military service in 1957 by the British version of the [[FN FAL]] rifle, the L1A1 Self Loading Rifle.

'''Specifications'''
*Weight: ~4 kg (8.8 lb) depending on wood density
*Length: 1,130 mm (44.5 in)
*Barrel length: 635 mm (25 in)
*Cartridge: .303 Mk VII SAA Ball
*Action: Bolt-action
*Muzzle velocity: 744 m/s (2,441 ft/s)
*Effective range: 550 yards (503 m)[2]
*Maximum range: 2,000 yd (1,829 m)
*Feed system: 10-round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips
*Sights: Sliding ramp rear sights, Fixed-post front sights, "Dial" long-range volley sights (deleted on MkIII* and later); Telescopic sights on Sniper models
*Rate of fire: between 15 to 30 rounds/minute

'''The Lee-Enfield rifle and variants can be seen in the following movies and video games:'''
== Short Magazine Lee-Enfield rifle ==
This includes all examples of the SMLE or Lee Enfield Bolt action rifle from it's introduction to the last widely-distributed version.

===Film===
* Australian and British soldiers in ''[[Beneath Hill 60]]'' (2010)

* British soldiers in ''[[Trench, The|The Trench]]'' (1999)

* British soldiers in ''[[Atonement]]'' (2007)

* ''[[No Blade Of Grass]]'' (1970)

* ''[[Bridge on the River Kwai, The|The Bridge on the River Kwai]]'' (1957)

* Czech troops in ''[[Tobruk]]'' (2008)

* [[Daniel Radcliffe]] as Lieutenant Jack Kipling in ''[[My Boy Jack]]'' (2007)

* Australian soldiers in [[Kokoda]]

* Australian and British soldiers in ''[[Breaker Morant]]'' (2010)

* [[Edward Woodward]] as Harry 'Breaker' Morant in ''[[Breaker Morant]]'' (1980)

* [[Richard Dormer]] as Corporal John O'Leary in ''[[My Boy Jack]]'' (2007)

* Shiite refugee in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* Kamal Khan's guards in ''[[Octopussy]]''

* Afghan Mujahideen in ''[[The Beast of War]]''

* Holstered in a motorbike sidecar in ''[[Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome]]''

* Lee Enfield Mk I filling in for Martini-Henrys due to a shortage of .455 blanks in ''[[Zulu]]'' (1964)

* Paul Hogan as Mick Dundee in ''[[Crocodile Dundee]]''

* British troops in ''[[A Bridge Too Far]]''

* British troops in ''[[The Longest Day]]'' (1963)

* [[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]] as Lock-Nah in ''[[The Mummy Returns]]''

* British and IRA forces in ''[[Michael Collins]]''

* An IRA member in ''[[Bloody Sunday]]'' (2001)

* British Army soldiers in ''[[The Water Horse]]''

* British and Indian Army soldiers in ''[[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]]''

* Oceanian soldiers in ''[[1984 (film) | 1984]]''

* [[Kevin Eldon]] as Sgt. Tony Fisher in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]''

* British soldiers and public school students in ''[[If...]]''

* ''[[Paper Tiger]]''

* ''[[Rambo III]]''

* ''[[Farewell To The King]]''

* ''[[You Only Live Twice]]''

* ''[[Kelly's Heroes]]''

* ''[[Transformers]]'' (2007)

* [[Carl Weathers]] as Sundog/George Washington Lincoln Brown in ''[[Death Hunt]]''

* ''[[Help! (1965 film)]]''

* ''[[Too Late the Hero]]'' (1970)

* ''[[Zulu]]''

* Prof. Nathan Phipps ([[William Langlois]]) in ''[[Curse of the Komodo]]'' )

* ''[[Zardoz]]''

* ''[[Hell's Angels]]'' (1930)

* ''[[Monty Python's The Meaning of Life]]''

* Greek soldier in ''[[The Hunters]]'' (1958)

* ''[[Sahara]]'' (1943)

* British soldiers in ''[[All The King Men]]'' (1999)

* ''[[No Blade Of Grass]]''

* ''[[Secondhand Lions]]''

* ''[[Richard III]]''

* ''[[Assembly (Ji jie hao)]]''

* Royal Navy sailors in ''[[Dr. No]]''

* ''[[Three to Go - Michael (1969)| Three to Go - Michael]]'' (1969)

* ''[[Goldfinger]]''

* ''[[The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]''

* Rebels and British and Indian soldiers in ''[[Northwest Frontier]]'' (1959)

* British soldiers in ''[[Giant Behemoth, The|The Giant Behemoth]]'' (1959)

* ''[[Lost Battalion, The|The Lost Battalion]]'' (No4 MkI)

===Television===

* ''[[Doctor Who (New series)]]''

* ''[[The War Game (1965)]]''

* ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]''

* ''[[The Professionals]]''

* ''[[24: Redemption]]''

* ''[[Rebel Heart]]''

*''[[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]''(In Lex's mansion on display behind glass)

* ''[[Weaponology]]''

* ''[[Rat Patrol]]''

* Buffer and Kate in ''[[Sea Patrol]]''

* ''[[Blackadder Goes Forth]]''

===Video Games ===

* ''[[Battlefield: 1942]]''

* ''[[Project Reality]]''

* British Army soldiers in ''[[Medal of Honor: Frontline]]'' (non-playable)

* ''[[Medal of Honor: Heroes]]'' (as the "Enfield Rifle")

* ''[[Call of Duty]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty: Finest Hour]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 2]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 3]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts]]''

* ''[[Silent Storm]]'' (standard and sniper versions)

* ''[[Timesplitters: Future Perfect]]''

* ''[[Commandos: Men Of Courage]]''

* ''[[Hidden And Dangerous]]''

* ''[[9th Company: Roots of Terror]]''

* ''[[Eternal Darkness]]'' (2001)

===Animation===

* ''[[Atlantis, The Lost Empire]]''

== Enfield Enforcer/L42A1 sniper rifle ==
[[Image:Enfieldenforcer.jpg|thumb|right|none|500px|Enfield Enforcer - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

===Film===

* [[Brad Pitt]] as Tom Bishop in ''[[Spy Game]]''.
* Mumbai police officers in ''[[Shootout at Lokhandwala]]''
* British Army soldier in ''[[Doomsday]]'' (with thumbhole stock and Harris bipod)

===Video Games===

* ''[[Hitman: Contracts]]''

* ''[[Insurgency]]''

* ''[[Manhunt]]''

* ''[[Manhunt 2]]''
 

== Birmingham Small Arms Lee-Speed Sporter ==
[[Image:BSArifles.jpg|thumb|right|350px|none|Two well preserved specimens of Lee-Speed Sporters.]]
The Lee-Speed was popular with British officers and other hunters who wanted a fine rifle, but couldn't afford the expensive double barrel rifles made by Purdy, Holland & Holland and other famous ,and expensive, British gun makers. The Lee-Speed was popular because it fired the British service round (.303 British) though it was also manufactured in other calibers. The "Lee - Speed" had the same action as the Lee-Enfield bolt action rifle, which allowed many British hunters and colonists in Africa to source spare parts and ammunition from British Army units based in Britain's African colonies during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

===Film===

* [[Val Kilmer]] as Col. John Patterson in ''[[Ghost and the Darkness, The|The Ghost and the Darkness]]'' (1996)

* [[Rachel Weisz]] as Evelyn Carnahan O'Connell in ''[[The Mummy Returns]]'' (2001)

* [[Gavin Hood]] as Bruce McNabb in ''[[King Solomon's Mines (2004)]]''

* [[Benicio del Toro]] as Lawrence Talbot in ''[[Wolfman, The (2010)|The Wolfman]]'' (2010)

 

==Background & Usage==
Despite being removed from frontline service in 1957, the Lee-Enfield saw extensive use as a secondary infantry rifle with reserve forces as well as use as a sniper rifle by the British military. In 2008, nations like India, Pakistan, Nepal and Canada still use the Lee-Enfield rifle as a standard issue rifle to police forces and to reserve military units. In the case of Canada, the Canadian Rangers are still using the Lee-Enfield No.4 rifle as their standard-issue rifle. In the case of India and Pakistan, the Lee-Enfield is used by the police forces of both nations with the Indians utilizing a 7.62mm NATO version of the No.1 MkIII* rifle called the Indian 2A/2A1 rifle. Australia still manufacture/convert Lee-Enfield's as hunting/plinking weapons in a range of calibres from 7.62mm NATO and the Soviet 7.62x39mm M43 with Australian International Arms (AIA) manufacturing modern versions of the Lee-Enfield rifle for the civilian firearms market.

The Lee-Enfield rifle saw extensive use in many military conflicts from the late 19th century to the present day (easily outstripping the length of service the Mosin-Nagant rifle has achieved) with Lee-Enfields being used in conflicts like the Second Boer War, the First World War, the Second World War, the Korean War, the Malayan Emergency, the Suez Canal Crisis, and the Mau Mau Uprising. The Lee-Enfield was also extensively used by the Mudjahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s. The Lee-Enfield has also seen extensive use in the hands of insurgents and warring factions recently in nations like Nepal (where both Nepalese Government forces and Maoist guerrillas used the Lee-Enfield rifle), Afghanistan, Iraq, India (with both the Indian government forces and the Naxalite Maoist rebels being seen armed with SMLEs and various firearms) and the Solomon Islands (where many of the warring factions in the Solomon Islands were seen armed with Lee-Enfield No.4 rifles stolen from military and police armories during the civil unrest that occurred on the islands during the late 1990s/early 2000s).

Unlike Mauser-derived bolt-action rifles (with their 5 round internal magazines and "cock on opening" bolt systems), the Lee-Enfield series of bolt-action rifles and carbines have a 10-round detachable magazine and a "cock on closing" bolt system. Alone among combatants in World War I, the British Army was made up of long service professional soldiers who were given extra ammunition to improve their marksmanship. The phrase "fifteen rounds a minute" was indeed the standard most British soldiers achieved. This rate of fire was often mistaken by German troops for machine gun fire. Standard British firing procedure, before and during the Great War, was to insert a fresh round after firing, thus saving the magazine for truly desperate situations.

Between 1895 and 1957, around 17 million Lee-Enfields have been produced and, as of 2010; are still in circulation today.

==References==
*SMLE Mk II: Dougherty, Martin J., ''Small Arms: From the Civil War to the Present'' Fall River: 2005, page 81
*Lee-Enfield rate of fire: Keegan, Sir John, ''The First World War'' Key Porter: 1998, page 98
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Talk:Lee-Enfield rifle series

2010-12-15T07:11:13Z

PainMan356: /* Lee Enfield is not that good. */

The SMLE is a specific variant of the Lee-Enfield used in WW1 and early WW2, also known as the No.1 Mk.III. Seeing as alot of the time the rifles in these movies and games are actually No.4s, maybe it would be better to call this article "Lee-Enfield RIfle" and separate it into sections for the various models, like was done with the M-16? - Nyles

=== Current USE? ===
From what I know, no 'front line' terrorist (I refuse to dignify them by calling them insurgents) uses the SMLE, even in Afghanistan. Some tribal villagers do hold and carry them, but they're private individuals. I asked three Army commanders who were in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and the only time they ever saw SMLEs were in piles of old stashes of weapons, rusting, and they were extremely rare. Most of the enemy weapons are AKs and other Soviet weaponry. So I would not consider the SMLE as a weapon currently being used by a recognized force. Please, opinions on this anyone? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:I never seen any insurgents or terrorists using SMLEs in my life.[[Oliveira]]
::I agree. I brought it up because a contributor wrote ''"the rifle is still seeing use in the hands of enemy combatants in both Iraq and Afghanistan against US and Allied military forces."'' Personally I've never seen an enemy combatant (after the early 1980s during the Russian invasion) using Lee Enfields and certainly not NOW during the 21st century. I brought it up the first time because I am interested in seeing what proof the original writer had for that statement. Could be just a brain fart. Lord knows I've written those myself on IMFDB in the past ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

MPM2008 and co.

Here's some links regarding the current use of the Lee-Enfield rifle in the Middle East and South Asia.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,137040,00.html?ESRC=army.nl

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200871212157.asp

P.S. MPM2008. Thanks for posting up those Lee-Enfield pictures. I really like those pictures and the other gun pictures you've posted in recent times. [[Roughneck Jase]]
::Thanks for the compliment and the links. BUT... these links actually support my initial point that the Enfields aren't being used by '''active combatants''' in Iraq OR Afghanistan any more. I'm a Vet of ODS and I have LOTS of friends who are actively serving or served during OEF or OIF and everyone said that they found caches of old weapons, at NO TIME have any hostile forces ever used these antiquated weapons in a combat action. Why would they? They have tons of full auto AKs, RPKS, PKMSs, RPGs, etc. Again, I stand by my assertion that, though people dig up buried caches of antique weapons all the time in Afghanistan and Iraq, that's exactly what they are, "Caches of Antiques", not weapons any active terrorist would use. In fact the only enemy snipers encountered in Iraq used either Dragunovs, Romanian PSLs or the Iraqi Tabuk Rifle. I say over and over again, NO Enfields are being used by anyone as a front line weapon any more. They ARE all over the place in family collections in Baghdad or used by Goat Herders in the mountains of Tora Bora, but that's civilian ownership, not an active combat rifle. Running into an 80 year old tribal goat shepard with an Enfield, doesn't count towards that rifle being a 'battle weapon'. And certainly finding piles of them buried in the sand doesn't count either. I hope people kinda understand what I'm getting at. :) And thanks for the links and comment. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

MPM2008,

Let's just say that we "agree to disagree" about the Lee-Enfield's current use in todays battlefield's in the Middle East and South Asia. What I'm trying to say is that rifles like the Lee-Enfield are among the many weapons at the disposal of various waring factions and insurgents in the Middle East and South Asia and if I was an Australian soldier (I'm an Aussie BTW) serving in either Iraq or Afghanistan, I wouldn't underestimate an insurgent armed with a rifle like the Lee-Enfield (or the Mauser 98 or the Mosin-Nagant). Besides, rifles like the Lee-Enfield are still potent infantry rifles by today's standards. [[Roughneck Jase]]

:I think you're missing the point. No one discounts the usefulness of the enfield. He said that they were not used in combat, just owned by people. Like the .22 rifle (1022 ruger) is owned all over the U.S. by people, cops, soldiers, but it's not considered a combat rifle of the USA though it has been used in the past (the silenced version) for covert OPs. I've never heard of any of the warring factions actually using the Enfiled anymore either.

=== Enfield Enforcer ===
Shouldn't that article be merged with this one? I mean it's the same rifle only with a caliber conversion? [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== Lee Enfield is not that good. ==

I really don't understand why people think the Lee Enfield is such a great gun, when you compare it to the Mauser 98 it's just not that good. Here is one reason why this is true http://books.google.com/books?id=TM9YS52R34AC&pg=PA179&lpg=PA179&dq=mauser+lee+enfield+military&source=bl&ots=74eS9rbmZo&sig=Ez0ojuyBXFYP3elaVQACpTwkbcQ&hl=en&ei=jz7ySdWeMZ-stgeu_qSjDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4 . The Lee Enfield is an underpowered rifle , it uses a rimmed cartridge , the bolt action is only slightly faster than a Mauser type (it would need to be measured in milliseconds), the bolt action is not as strong as the Mauser type, its ten round mag still needs to be loaded by 2 stripper clips, its rimmed cartridge can cause many problems with the rifle, the Lee Enfield is bulkier than the Mauser type, its feeding and extraction is not as good as the Mauser type, it is not as accurate, it is not as reliable, the Mauser rifle series has 102 million military rifles built from 1871 to the 1950's, and that is not including all of the modern hunting and military sniper rifles built right now. There are still many more reasons why the Lee Enfield is not as good as the Mauser type.

sure you might have a argument but to be honest just about no one on here cares

Who you talking to. Me or the LE hater?--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 09:22, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

:::Mauser Guy: the points you make seem pettifogging (e.g.:"underpowered"? A .303 round? You've got to be kidding!). Not only since these are obsolete weapons (from the military standpoint), but because both rifles did their job in the trenches of the Great War, slaughtering German, French and British troops in the hundreds of thousands, as well as during its conclusion (i.e. WWII) and beyond. Though I doubt any German soldier would have wanted to face an M-1 Garand--let alone a Tommy Gun or a PPSh--with his Mauser!

:::If ''Call of Duty 5: World at War'' has it right, soldiers carrying bolt action rifles (excepting snipers of course) were at a serious disadvantage against troops with more "modern" weaponry. As Martin Dougherty puts it: "[The self-loading rifle] has proven [itself] many times over in urban, jungle and hedgerow actions (i.e. the ''bocage'' country in Normandy)."
:::[[User:PainMan356|PainMan356]] 07:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== A retort to our Mauser fan ==

The extractor claw on the Mauser 98 bolt head would fill up with dirt at times in the conditions of the trenches. That could be an issue if the soldiers weren't on top of it. Also the Mauser actions cocks on opening. Once again the conditons found in the trenches coud play into that design. There are accounts of the Mauser being rather balky when a soldier went to open it in a hurry. The Lee Enfield cocked on closing. In the dirt and general nastiness of the trenches the LE design was found to be more reliable.

The old 7.92mm Mauser round was/is more powerful than the .303 British,but not enough to make a difference.For example Canadians have been killing Moose, Elk, Caribou, bear and even the occassional Grizzley with the .303 for decades. How do you consider that to be underpowered? I'm here to tell you that all those animals take a whole lot more killing than a human being. Hell there were even British hunters who took elephants and lions in Africa with the .303 in the late 19th and early 20th century. I only mention this because you seem to be focused on the sporting application vs. combat application.

The Mauser is a great design and is a terrific base for a sporting rifle. Very strong and accurate.Yes it will "outsnipe" the LE but whne you're talking combat the differences aren't all that significant. The LE is a better ''Combat'' design. Your points are valid but they apply more to hunting and target then combat. The old L4A1 sniper pattern of the No. 4 was also very accurate. It wasn't a Winchester Model 70, but it worked well enough for the SAS in Yemen in the seventies.

The various Commonwealth soldiers knew about the loading issue when it came to the .303 rimmed design. They ensured that the bullets were loaded into the stripper clips properly. And in my opinion ten rounds is still better than five rounds. You still have double the ammo. It's interesting that you had to stretch and say that the LE soldiers "only" had ten rounds in their magazine at the beginning of an action.

I think what it really comes down to is you're a fan of the Mauser design. So am I, but I don't instantly disregard another design. The LE provided honorable service to the Brits and the other Commonwealth nations for sixty plus years. Actually more because India used it into the seventies.Would it really have lasted that long if the LE design was as poor as you said? I think not. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

'''Well I guess the Mauser fan didn't want to play. I've been waiting for over four months. Oh well'''.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Error regarding Lee-Enfield Mark III ==

The weapon labeled "Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III*" is, in fact, properly named the "SMLE Mk II" (or Short Magazine Lee Enfield), also known, amongst the soldiers who used it, as the "Smellie".

This should be corrected.

My source:

''Small Arms: From the Civil War to the Present Day'' by Martin J. Dougherty (Fall River, 2005), page 81.

[[User:PainMan356|PainMan356]] 07:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Lee-Enfield rifle series

2010-12-15T07:00:12Z

PainMan356: /* Error regarding Lee-Enfield Mark III */ new section

The SMLE is a specific variant of the Lee-Enfield used in WW1 and early WW2, also known as the No.1 Mk.III. Seeing as alot of the time the rifles in these movies and games are actually No.4s, maybe it would be better to call this article "Lee-Enfield RIfle" and separate it into sections for the various models, like was done with the M-16? - Nyles

=== Current USE? ===
From what I know, no 'front line' terrorist (I refuse to dignify them by calling them insurgents) uses the SMLE, even in Afghanistan. Some tribal villagers do hold and carry them, but they're private individuals. I asked three Army commanders who were in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and the only time they ever saw SMLEs were in piles of old stashes of weapons, rusting, and they were extremely rare. Most of the enemy weapons are AKs and other Soviet weaponry. So I would not consider the SMLE as a weapon currently being used by a recognized force. Please, opinions on this anyone? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:I never seen any insurgents or terrorists using SMLEs in my life.[[Oliveira]]
::I agree. I brought it up because a contributor wrote ''"the rifle is still seeing use in the hands of enemy combatants in both Iraq and Afghanistan against US and Allied military forces."'' Personally I've never seen an enemy combatant (after the early 1980s during the Russian invasion) using Lee Enfields and certainly not NOW during the 21st century. I brought it up the first time because I am interested in seeing what proof the original writer had for that statement. Could be just a brain fart. Lord knows I've written those myself on IMFDB in the past ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

MPM2008 and co.

Here's some links regarding the current use of the Lee-Enfield rifle in the Middle East and South Asia.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,137040,00.html?ESRC=army.nl

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200871212157.asp

P.S. MPM2008. Thanks for posting up those Lee-Enfield pictures. I really like those pictures and the other gun pictures you've posted in recent times. [[Roughneck Jase]]
::Thanks for the compliment and the links. BUT... these links actually support my initial point that the Enfields aren't being used by '''active combatants''' in Iraq OR Afghanistan any more. I'm a Vet of ODS and I have LOTS of friends who are actively serving or served during OEF or OIF and everyone said that they found caches of old weapons, at NO TIME have any hostile forces ever used these antiquated weapons in a combat action. Why would they? They have tons of full auto AKs, RPKS, PKMSs, RPGs, etc. Again, I stand by my assertion that, though people dig up buried caches of antique weapons all the time in Afghanistan and Iraq, that's exactly what they are, "Caches of Antiques", not weapons any active terrorist would use. In fact the only enemy snipers encountered in Iraq used either Dragunovs, Romanian PSLs or the Iraqi Tabuk Rifle. I say over and over again, NO Enfields are being used by anyone as a front line weapon any more. They ARE all over the place in family collections in Baghdad or used by Goat Herders in the mountains of Tora Bora, but that's civilian ownership, not an active combat rifle. Running into an 80 year old tribal goat shepard with an Enfield, doesn't count towards that rifle being a 'battle weapon'. And certainly finding piles of them buried in the sand doesn't count either. I hope people kinda understand what I'm getting at. :) And thanks for the links and comment. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

MPM2008,

Let's just say that we "agree to disagree" about the Lee-Enfield's current use in todays battlefield's in the Middle East and South Asia. What I'm trying to say is that rifles like the Lee-Enfield are among the many weapons at the disposal of various waring factions and insurgents in the Middle East and South Asia and if I was an Australian soldier (I'm an Aussie BTW) serving in either Iraq or Afghanistan, I wouldn't underestimate an insurgent armed with a rifle like the Lee-Enfield (or the Mauser 98 or the Mosin-Nagant). Besides, rifles like the Lee-Enfield are still potent infantry rifles by today's standards. [[Roughneck Jase]]

:I think you're missing the point. No one discounts the usefulness of the enfield. He said that they were not used in combat, just owned by people. Like the .22 rifle (1022 ruger) is owned all over the U.S. by people, cops, soldiers, but it's not considered a combat rifle of the USA though it has been used in the past (the silenced version) for covert OPs. I've never heard of any of the warring factions actually using the Enfiled anymore either.

=== Enfield Enforcer ===
Shouldn't that article be merged with this one? I mean it's the same rifle only with a caliber conversion? [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== Lee Enfield is not that good. ==

I really don't understand why people think the Lee Enfield is such a great gun, when you compare it to the Mauser 98 it's just not that good. Here is one reason why this is true http://books.google.com/books?id=TM9YS52R34AC&pg=PA179&lpg=PA179&dq=mauser+lee+enfield+military&source=bl&ots=74eS9rbmZo&sig=Ez0ojuyBXFYP3elaVQACpTwkbcQ&hl=en&ei=jz7ySdWeMZ-stgeu_qSjDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4 . The Lee Enfield is an underpowered rifle , it uses a rimmed cartridge , the bolt action is only slightly faster than a Mauser type (it would need to be measured in milliseconds), the bolt action is not as strong as the Mauser type, its ten round mag still needs to be loaded by 2 stripper clips, its rimmed cartridge can cause many problems with the rifle, the Lee Enfield is bulkier than the Mauser type, its feeding and extraction is not as good as the Mauser type, it is not as accurate, it is not as reliable, the Mauser rifle series has 102 million military rifles built from 1871 to the 1950's, and that is not including all of the modern hunting and military sniper rifles built right now. There are still many more reasons why the Lee Enfield is not as good as the Mauser type.

sure you might have a argument but to be honest just about no one on here cares

Who you talking to. Me or the LE hater?--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 09:22, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== A retort to our Mauser fan ==

The extractor claw on the Mauser 98 bolt head would fill up with dirt at times in the conditions of the trenches. That could be an issue if the soldiers weren't on top of it. Also the Mauser actions cocks on opening. Once again the conditons found in the trenches coud play into that design. There are accounts of the Mauser being rather balky when a soldier went to open it in a hurry. The Lee Enfield cocked on closing. In the dirt and general nastiness of the trenches the LE design was found to be more reliable.

The old 7.92mm Mauser round was/is more powerful than the .303 British,but not enough to make a difference.For example Canadians have been killing Moose, Elk, Caribou, bear and even the occassional Grizzley with the .303 for decades. How do you consider that to be underpowered? I'm here to tell you that all those animals take a whole lot more killing than a human being. Hell there were even British hunters who took elephants and lions in Africa with the .303 in the late 19th and early 20th century. I only mention this because you seem to be focused on the sporting application vs. combat application.

The Mauser is a great design and is a terrific base for a sporting rifle. Very strong and accurate.Yes it will "outsnipe" the LE but whne you're talking combat the differences aren't all that significant. The LE is a better ''Combat'' design. Your points are valid but they apply more to hunting and target then combat. The old L4A1 sniper pattern of the No. 4 was also very accurate. It wasn't a Winchester Model 70, but it worked well enough for the SAS in Yemen in the seventies.

The various Commonwealth soldiers knew about the loading issue when it came to the .303 rimmed design. They ensured that the bullets were loaded into the stripper clips properly. And in my opinion ten rounds is still better than five rounds. You still have double the ammo. It's interesting that you had to stretch and say that the LE soldiers "only" had ten rounds in their magazine at the beginning of an action.

I think what it really comes down to is you're a fan of the Mauser design. So am I, but I don't instantly disregard another design. The LE provided honorable service to the Brits and the other Commonwealth nations for sixty plus years. Actually more because India used it into the seventies.Would it really have lasted that long if the LE design was as poor as you said? I think not. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

'''Well I guess the Mauser fan didn't want to play. I've been waiting for over four months. Oh well'''.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Error regarding Lee-Enfield Mark III ==

The weapon labeled "Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III*" is, in fact, properly named the "SMLE Mk II" (or Short Magazine Lee Enfield), also known, amongst the soldiers who used it, as the "Smellie".

This should be corrected.

My source:

''Small Arms: From the Civil War to the Present Day'' by Martin J. Dougherty (Fall River, 2005), page 81.

[[User:PainMan356|PainMan356]] 07:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Star Wars

2010-12-15T06:39:20Z

PainMan356: /* DC-15S Compact Plasma Rifle */

Throughout the six films of the Star Wars saga, creator George Lucas was determined that the universe he envisioned would have a "lived-in" look to it. Thus, the many weapons seen in the saga are in fact visually modified or based upon real-world weapons.

The following lists the real-world firearms that were visually modified for use in the six films of the ''Star Wars'' saga:

[[Image:StarwarsMovieposter.jpg|thumb|600px|right|The Star Wars Saga (1977-2005)]]

__TOC__ 

=Original Trilogy (Episodes IV, V, and VI)=
==Vostok Margolin .22LR target pistol==

In the early scenes of ''A New Hope'' and in a few scenes in ''Return Of The Jedi'', Princess Leia ([[Carrie Fisher]]) can be seen with a Defender Sporting Blaster, actually a Vostok Margolin .22 LR Target Pistol, with some muzzle attachment fitted. The end of the attachment is actually a compensator that was also available for the pistol.
[[Image:SWVM22a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SWVM22b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SWVM22.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SW 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Leia with the Vostok Margolin pistol before shooting a stormtrooper with it in ''A New Hope''.]]
[[Image:SW-Vostokpistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Leia's Vostok Margolin pistol in ''Return of the Jedi.'' Note that the muzzle attachment has been removed and a few differences in its design.]]

==BlasTech E-11 blaster rifle (Sterling L2A3)==

Standard issue blaster rifle of the Imperial Stormtroopers. The E-11 blaster rifle props were built from the British-made [[Sterling SMG | Sterling L2A3]] submachine gun. Numerous main characters, including Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker ([[Mark Hamill]]), and Han Solo ([[Harrison Ford]]) use the weapon. Lando Calrissian ([[Billy Dee Williams]]) also uses an E-11 blaster in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.

While the gun is being fired, in some scenes, if you look closely, you can see the spent casings being ejected out of the gun. The one that comes to mind is in ''A New Hope'' when Luke and Leia swing across the gap to the other side of the bridge while inside the Death Star. The stormtrooper that fires at them from the platform they just left clearly has spent casings coming out of the gun.

[[Image:SterlingSMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sterling Submachine Gun - 9mm]]
[[Image:SWE11br.jpg|thumb|none|500px|BlasTech E-11 blaster rifle. Standard-issue blaster rifle of the Imperial Stormtroopers]]

[[Image:Star Wars-Sterling2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stormtroopers fire their E-11 blaster rifles at the Rebels on the ship Tantive IV in ''A New Hope.'']]
[[Image:StarWars-Sterling3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Princess Leia fires an E-11 Blaster. Note a spent shell casing is visible when she fires (circled in red).]]
[[Image:Starwars-Sterling4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Han Solo fires his E-11 blaster rifle at Stormtroopers while trapped in the Death Star.]]
[[Image:Starwars-Sterling5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luke Skywalker fires his E-11 blaster rifle while stuck on a bridge in the Death Star.]]
[[Image:STarWars-Sterling.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A stormtrooper with a BlasTech E-11 during the arrest of Rebel forces in ''Return of the Jedi.'']]
[[Image:Starwars-Sterling6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Yeeeh ha ha!" An Ewok holds a captured E-11 blaster rifle while cheering in victory during the Battle of Endor.]]

==BlasTech DH-17 blaster pistol==

The BlasTech DH-17 blaster pistol is one of the blaster pistols on issue to the Rebel Alliance. Like the E-11 blaster rifle prop, the DH-17 blaster pistol prop was also built from the British-made [[Sterling SMG | Sterling L2A3]] submachine gun. The version used by Rebel troops in Episode IV is quite different than the Episode V pistol pictured below. The muzzle flashes appear to be added in post-production, given that there was no magazine.

[[Image:SWE11br2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StarWars-DH-171.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A group of Rebels with BlasTech DH-17s.]]
[[Image:StarWars-DH-172.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels open fire on the stormtroopers invading the ship Tantive IV.]]

==BlasTech A280 and A295 blaster rifles==

Standard issue blaster rifle of the Rebel Alliance ground forces in both ''The Empire Strikes Back'' and ''Return Of The Jedi''. Both the A280 and A295 blaster rifle props were CAST FROM replicas simlilar to (built from) both the World War 2-era German [[Sturmgewehr 44]] (''The Empire Strikes Back'') and from the [[M16]] series rifles (''Return Of The Jedi'').

[[Image:SWBTA280.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StarWars-SWBTA280.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A line of Rebel Hoth forces in the back fire their A295 blaster rifles at the Imperial walkers in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.]]
[[Image:StarWars-SWBTA2802.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of a Rebel's A295 blaster rifle in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.]]
[[Image:Starwars-A295.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel forces on Endor aim their A280 blaster rifles at a lone scout trooper.]]

==DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle (MG34)==

Standard issue heavy blaster of the Imperial Stormtroopers. The DLT-19s were nothing more than World War 2 German [[MG34]] general purpose machine guns with little to no modifications to its external appearance.
[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with 75-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:SWSTBR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DLT-19 Heavy Blaster]]
[[Image:SWSTBR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Sandtrooper officer on the left carries the DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle (MG34).]]
[[Image:SW 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the stormtroopers investigating the Millennium Falcon carrying the DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle.]]
[[Image:SW-DLT-19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chewbacca fires his DLT-19 at the Death Star's security alarms.]]

== T-21 Blaster Rifle (Lewis Machine Gun)==
The heavy blaster seen carried by the Sandtrooper Officer is a modified British Lewis light machine gun.
[[Image:Lewis gun.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Lewis gun .303]]
[[Image:T-21blasterifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The T-21 blaster rifle as seen in Star Wars.]]
[[Image:SWSTBR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Sandtrooper officer in the middle carries the T-21 Blaster (Lewis Machine Gun sans drum magazine).]]

== RT-97C heavy blaster rifle (MG15 machine gun) ==
An Imperial Sandtrooper can be seen holding a RT-97C heavy blaster rifle while on patrol on Tatooine. The RT-97C heavy blaster rifle prop is in fact a modified German [[MG15 machine gun]].
[[Image:MG15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG15 machine gun 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

==DL-44 blaster pistol==
The DL-44 blaster pistol was the blaster of choice for Han Solo ([[Harrison Ford]]) and the Rebel Alliance. The weapon is seen wielded by Luke Skywalker ([[Mark Hamill]]) throughout ''The Empire Strikes Back''. Possibly the best known duplicate of a real gun, the DL-44 blaster pistol prop was built from a [[Mauser C96]] handgun, sometimes with a sniper scope. The modifications are obviously added on to the exterior, though the distinct "broomhandle" grips are still wooden.
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pre-War dated Mauser C96 "Broomhandle" Commercial Version - 7.63x25mm Mauser. Note the rear tangent sight; in something of a display of wishful thinking, the C96's sight is adjustable for ranges up to 1000 metres.]]
[[Image:SWHanB.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Star Wars version of the pistol.]]
[[Image:StarWars-DL-44.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Han Solo with his DL-44 blaster pistol in ''Return Of The Jedi.'' In the background is Leia with her Vostok Margolin .22LR target pistol.]]
[[Image:StarWars-DL-442.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luke gets surprised by Yoda's appearance and draws out his DL-44 blaster on him in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.]]
[[Image:StarWars-DL-441.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Han Solo chambers his scoped DL-44 blaster in ''A New Hope.'' Note the spikes on the pistol.]]

==Jawa blasters==
The blaster utilized by the Jawa who shot R2-D2 in ''A New Hope'' was built from a cut-down British [[SMLE|Lee-Enfield No.1 MkIII*]] series bolt-action rifle with the grenade launcher cup attached to the shortened barrel.

[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the First World War, introduced in 1907 it has seen action throughout the 20th century.]]
[[Image:SWJawab.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StarWars-jawablaster0.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Jawa aims the Jawa blaster at R2-D2.]]
[[Image:StarWars-jawablaster1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Jawa fires the Jawa blaster, disabling R2-D2.]]
[[Image:StarWars-jawablaster2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Jawa with the Jawa blaster as he calls out his fellow Jawas.]]

== Boba Fett's EE-3 Blaster Carbine==
The prop Boba Fett uses in the films is a modified Webley & Scott No.1 Mark 1 Flare Gun.
[[Image:SWBobafett.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:BobaFett-StarWars.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boba Fett with his EE-3 blaster carbine while guarding Jabba the Hutt in ''Return Of The Jedi''.]]
[[Image:BobaFett-StarWars2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boba Fett aims his EE-3 blaster carbine at Luke during the battle on Jabba's ship before the carbine gets cut in half by Luke.]]

== Ponda Baba's SE-14C blaster pistol ==
The SE-14C blaster pistol Ponda Baba used when his partner, Evazan, tries to get Luke Skywalker into a fight at the Mos Eisley cantina in ''A New Hope'' is actually a Swiss Rexim-Favor submachine gun with the stock, barrel, and magazine removed and has a double sniper scope attached.
[[Image:SE14Cblaster-Starwars.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The SE-14C, a common weapon for Mos Eisley gangsters according to Wookieepedia.]]
[[Image:StarWars-SE-14C.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ponda Baba fires his SE-14C blaster pistol at Obi-Wan.]]
[[Image:StarWars-SE-14C2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SE-14C blaster pistol on the ground with Ponda Baba's arm cut off by Obi Wan's lightsaber.]]

=Prequel Trilogy (Episodes I, II, and III)=
== Acension gun ==

In Episode I ''The Phantom Menace'', the Naboo troops used this weapon that was based around a Walther LP300 Model Air Gun. Queen Padme Amidala ([[Natalie Portman]]) briefly uses a weapon that was based on the [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]].
[[Image:SWNaboo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Feinwerkbau C55 Model Air Gun]]
[[Image:Starwars-Naboopistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Naboo troops with Naboo blasters.]]
[[Image:Starwars-Naboopistol2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Captain Panaka carries a Naboo blaster as Padme ([[Natalie Portman]]) fires a Naboo pistol.]]

== Naboo Assault Blaster (Calico M950A) ==
Also seen in ''The Phantom Menace'' is the Naboo Assault Blaster, which appears to be based off of the [[Calico#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950A]].
[[Image:CR-23.jpg|400px|thumb|none|The Naboo blaster which is called, according to the Star Wars wiki, the CR-2 blaster.]]
[[Image:CR-2-StarWars.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Naboo trooper with a CR-2 blaster (circled in red) while riding on a Naboo speeder.]]
[[Image:CR-2blaster-StarWars2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Naboo trooper behind Anakin Skywalker with a CR-2 blaster.]]

==DC-15A Heavy Plasma Rifle==
Manufactured by BlasTech Industries, the DC-15-series was a range of plasma weapons used by the Republic clone troopers during the Clone Wars in Episode II ''Attack of the Clones'' and Episode III ''Revenge of the Sith''. Although entirely computer-generated (as are all the Clone Troopers, no costumes were manufactured,) its design is based on parts from the German [[MG34]] making up the rear half, as well as much of the [[Sterling SMG|Sterling L2A3]] turned upside-down for the front.
[[Image:DC-15a Blaster Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yoda accompanies a squad of clone troopers with DC-15A heavy blaster rifles in ''Attack of the Clones.'']]
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clone trooper fires his DC-15A heavy blaster rifle at battle droids during the rescue of Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padme Amidala and the Jedi.]]
[[Image:DC-15A-Starwars3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A group of clone troopers with DC-15A heavy blaster rifles while advancing behind Mace Windu ([[Samuel L. Jackson]]).]]
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Swamp clone troopers fire on the Trade Federation droid army in ''Revenge of the Sith.'']]
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Galactic Marines aim their DC-15A heavy blaster rifles at Ki-Adi-Mundi after Order 66 was issued.]]

==DC-15S Compact Plasma Rifle==
Like the M16 has the M4, the DC-15A has the DC-15S. It is basically a compacted version (a "carbine" if you will) of the DC-15, lacking some of the range but making up for it in ease of use and portability. It is usually seen in the hands of officers, most notably Commander Bacara when he and the Galactic Marines kill Ki-Adi-Mundi, as well as in the hands of many regular clone troopers (the design of the DC-15S carbine would later influence the design and development of the E-11 blaster rifle used by the Imperial Stormtroopers in Episodes IV-VI). As this weapon is computer generated, what it is based upon (if any) is currently unknown; its similarity to the E-11 suggests it was based on the [[Sterling SMG|Sterling L2A3]] as well.
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Commander Bacara (The one in the middle) has a DC-15S.]]

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PainMan356: /* DC-15A Heavy Plasma Rifle */ added info that all Clone Troopers & weapons are CGI; changed "cavalry of clone troopers" to "group" as there are clearly no horses!

Throughout the six films of the Star Wars saga, creator George Lucas was determined that the universe he envisioned would have a "lived-in" look to it. Thus, the many weapons seen in the saga are in fact visually modified or based upon real-world weapons.

The following lists the real-world firearms that were visually modified for use in the six films of the ''Star Wars'' saga:

[[Image:StarwarsMovieposter.jpg|thumb|600px|right|The Star Wars Saga (1977-2005)]]

__TOC__ 

=Original Trilogy (Episodes IV, V, and VI)=
==Vostok Margolin .22LR target pistol==

In the early scenes of ''A New Hope'' and in a few scenes in ''Return Of The Jedi'', Princess Leia ([[Carrie Fisher]]) can be seen with a Defender Sporting Blaster, actually a Vostok Margolin .22 LR Target Pistol, with some muzzle attachment fitted. The end of the attachment is actually a compensator that was also available for the pistol.
[[Image:SWVM22a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SWVM22b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SWVM22.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SW 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Leia with the Vostok Margolin pistol before shooting a stormtrooper with it in ''A New Hope''.]]
[[Image:SW-Vostokpistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Leia's Vostok Margolin pistol in ''Return of the Jedi.'' Note that the muzzle attachment has been removed and a few differences in its design.]]

==BlasTech E-11 blaster rifle (Sterling L2A3)==

Standard issue blaster rifle of the Imperial Stormtroopers. The E-11 blaster rifle props were built from the British-made [[Sterling SMG | Sterling L2A3]] submachine gun. Numerous main characters, including Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker ([[Mark Hamill]]), and Han Solo ([[Harrison Ford]]) use the weapon. Lando Calrissian ([[Billy Dee Williams]]) also uses an E-11 blaster in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.

While the gun is being fired, in some scenes, if you look closely, you can see the spent casings being ejected out of the gun. The one that comes to mind is in ''A New Hope'' when Luke and Leia swing across the gap to the other side of the bridge while inside the Death Star. The stormtrooper that fires at them from the platform they just left clearly has spent casings coming out of the gun.

[[Image:SterlingSMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sterling Submachine Gun - 9mm]]
[[Image:SWE11br.jpg|thumb|none|500px|BlasTech E-11 blaster rifle. Standard-issue blaster rifle of the Imperial Stormtroopers]]

[[Image:Star Wars-Sterling2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stormtroopers fire their E-11 blaster rifles at the Rebels on the ship Tantive IV in ''A New Hope.'']]
[[Image:StarWars-Sterling3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Princess Leia fires an E-11 Blaster. Note a spent shell casing is visible when she fires (circled in red).]]
[[Image:Starwars-Sterling4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Han Solo fires his E-11 blaster rifle at Stormtroopers while trapped in the Death Star.]]
[[Image:Starwars-Sterling5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luke Skywalker fires his E-11 blaster rifle while stuck on a bridge in the Death Star.]]
[[Image:STarWars-Sterling.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A stormtrooper with a BlasTech E-11 during the arrest of Rebel forces in ''Return of the Jedi.'']]
[[Image:Starwars-Sterling6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Yeeeh ha ha!" An Ewok holds a captured E-11 blaster rifle while cheering in victory during the Battle of Endor.]]

==BlasTech DH-17 blaster pistol==

The BlasTech DH-17 blaster pistol is one of the blaster pistols on issue to the Rebel Alliance. Like the E-11 blaster rifle prop, the DH-17 blaster pistol prop was also built from the British-made [[Sterling SMG | Sterling L2A3]] submachine gun. The version used by Rebel troops in Episode IV is quite different than the Episode V pistol pictured below. The muzzle flashes appear to be added in post-production, given that there was no magazine.

[[Image:SWE11br2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StarWars-DH-171.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A group of Rebels with BlasTech DH-17s.]]
[[Image:StarWars-DH-172.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels open fire on the stormtroopers invading the ship Tantive IV.]]

==BlasTech A280 and A295 blaster rifles==

Standard issue blaster rifle of the Rebel Alliance ground forces in both ''The Empire Strikes Back'' and ''Return Of The Jedi''. Both the A280 and A295 blaster rifle props were CAST FROM replicas simlilar to (built from) both the World War 2-era German [[Sturmgewehr 44]] (''The Empire Strikes Back'') and from the [[M16]] series rifles (''Return Of The Jedi'').

[[Image:SWBTA280.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StarWars-SWBTA280.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A line of Rebel Hoth forces in the back fire their A295 blaster rifles at the Imperial walkers in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.]]
[[Image:StarWars-SWBTA2802.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of a Rebel's A295 blaster rifle in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.]]
[[Image:Starwars-A295.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel forces on Endor aim their A280 blaster rifles at a lone scout trooper.]]

==DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle (MG34)==

Standard issue heavy blaster of the Imperial Stormtroopers. The DLT-19s were nothing more than World War 2 German [[MG34]] general purpose machine guns with little to no modifications to its external appearance.
[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with 75-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:SWSTBR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DLT-19 Heavy Blaster]]
[[Image:SWSTBR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Sandtrooper officer on the left carries the DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle (MG34).]]
[[Image:SW 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the stormtroopers investigating the Millennium Falcon carrying the DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle.]]
[[Image:SW-DLT-19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chewbacca fires his DLT-19 at the Death Star's security alarms.]]

== T-21 Blaster Rifle (Lewis Machine Gun)==
The heavy blaster seen carried by the Sandtrooper Officer is a modified British Lewis light machine gun.
[[Image:Lewis gun.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Lewis gun .303]]
[[Image:T-21blasterifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The T-21 blaster rifle as seen in Star Wars.]]
[[Image:SWSTBR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Sandtrooper officer in the middle carries the T-21 Blaster (Lewis Machine Gun sans drum magazine).]]

== RT-97C heavy blaster rifle (MG15 machine gun) ==
An Imperial Sandtrooper can be seen holding a RT-97C heavy blaster rifle while on patrol on Tatooine. The RT-97C heavy blaster rifle prop is in fact a modified German [[MG15 machine gun]].
[[Image:MG15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG15 machine gun 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

==DL-44 blaster pistol==
The DL-44 blaster pistol was the blaster of choice for Han Solo ([[Harrison Ford]]) and the Rebel Alliance. The weapon is seen wielded by Luke Skywalker ([[Mark Hamill]]) throughout ''The Empire Strikes Back''. Possibly the best known duplicate of a real gun, the DL-44 blaster pistol prop was built from a [[Mauser C96]] handgun, sometimes with a sniper scope. The modifications are obviously added on to the exterior, though the distinct "broomhandle" grips are still wooden.
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pre-War dated Mauser C96 "Broomhandle" Commercial Version - 7.63x25mm Mauser. Note the rear tangent sight; in something of a display of wishful thinking, the C96's sight is adjustable for ranges up to 1000 metres.]]
[[Image:SWHanB.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Star Wars version of the pistol.]]
[[Image:StarWars-DL-44.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Han Solo with his DL-44 blaster pistol in ''Return Of The Jedi.'' In the background is Leia with her Vostok Margolin .22LR target pistol.]]
[[Image:StarWars-DL-442.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luke gets surprised by Yoda's appearance and draws out his DL-44 blaster on him in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.]]
[[Image:StarWars-DL-441.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Han Solo chambers his scoped DL-44 blaster in ''A New Hope.'' Note the spikes on the pistol.]]

==Jawa blasters==
The blaster utilized by the Jawa who shot R2-D2 in ''A New Hope'' was built from a cut-down British [[SMLE|Lee-Enfield No.1 MkIII*]] series bolt-action rifle with the grenade launcher cup attached to the shortened barrel.

[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the First World War, introduced in 1907 it has seen action throughout the 20th century.]]
[[Image:SWJawab.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StarWars-jawablaster0.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Jawa aims the Jawa blaster at R2-D2.]]
[[Image:StarWars-jawablaster1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Jawa fires the Jawa blaster, disabling R2-D2.]]
[[Image:StarWars-jawablaster2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Jawa with the Jawa blaster as he calls out his fellow Jawas.]]

== Boba Fett's EE-3 Blaster Carbine==
The prop Boba Fett uses in the films is a modified Webley & Scott No.1 Mark 1 Flare Gun.
[[Image:SWBobafett.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:BobaFett-StarWars.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boba Fett with his EE-3 blaster carbine while guarding Jabba the Hutt in ''Return Of The Jedi''.]]
[[Image:BobaFett-StarWars2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boba Fett aims his EE-3 blaster carbine at Luke during the battle on Jabba's ship before the carbine gets cut in half by Luke.]]

== Ponda Baba's SE-14C blaster pistol ==
The SE-14C blaster pistol Ponda Baba used when his partner, Evazan, tries to get Luke Skywalker into a fight at the Mos Eisley cantina in ''A New Hope'' is actually a Swiss Rexim-Favor submachine gun with the stock, barrel, and magazine removed and has a double sniper scope attached.
[[Image:SE14Cblaster-Starwars.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The SE-14C, a common weapon for Mos Eisley gangsters according to Wookieepedia.]]
[[Image:StarWars-SE-14C.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ponda Baba fires his SE-14C blaster pistol at Obi-Wan.]]
[[Image:StarWars-SE-14C2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SE-14C blaster pistol on the ground with Ponda Baba's arm cut off by Obi Wan's lightsaber.]]

=Prequel Trilogy (Episodes I, II, and III)=
== Acension gun ==

In Episode I ''The Phantom Menace'', the Naboo troops used this weapon that was based around a Walther LP300 Model Air Gun. Queen Padme Amidala ([[Natalie Portman]]) briefly uses a weapon that was based on the [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]].
[[Image:SWNaboo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Feinwerkbau C55 Model Air Gun]]
[[Image:Starwars-Naboopistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Naboo troops with Naboo blasters.]]
[[Image:Starwars-Naboopistol2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Captain Panaka carries a Naboo blaster as Padme ([[Natalie Portman]]) fires a Naboo pistol.]]

== Naboo Assault Blaster (Calico M950A) ==
Also seen in ''The Phantom Menace'' is the Naboo Assault Blaster, which appears to be based off of the [[Calico#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950A]].
[[Image:CR-23.jpg|400px|thumb|none|The Naboo blaster which is called, according to the Star Wars wiki, the CR-2 blaster.]]
[[Image:CR-2-StarWars.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Naboo trooper with a CR-2 blaster (circled in red) while riding on a Naboo speeder.]]
[[Image:CR-2blaster-StarWars2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Naboo trooper behind Anakin Skywalker with a CR-2 blaster.]]

==DC-15A Heavy Plasma Rifle==
Manufactured by BlasTech Industries, the DC-15-series was a range of plasma weapons used by the Republic clone troopers during the Clone Wars in Episode II ''Attack of the Clones'' and Episode III ''Revenge of the Sith''. Although entirely computer-generated (as are all the Clone Troopers, no costumes were manufactured,) its design is based on parts from the German [[MG34]] making up the rear half, as well as much of the [[Sterling SMG|Sterling L2A3]] turned upside-down for the front.
[[Image:DC-15a Blaster Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yoda accompanies a squad of clone troopers with DC-15A heavy blaster rifles in ''Attack of the Clones.'']]
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clone trooper fires his DC-15A heavy blaster rifle at battle droids during the rescue of Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padme Amidala and the Jedi.]]
[[Image:DC-15A-Starwars3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A group of clone troopers with DC-15A heavy blaster rifles while advancing behind Mace Windu ([[Samuel L. Jackson]]).]]
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Swamp clone troopers fire on the Trade Federation droid army in ''Revenge of the Sith.'']]
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Galactic Marines aim their DC-15A heavy blaster rifles at Ki-Adi-Mundi after Order 66 was issued.]]

==DC-15S Compact Plasma Rifle==
Like the M16 has the M4, the DC-15A has the DC-15S. It is basically a compacted version of the DC-15, lacking some of the range but making up for it in ease of use and portability. It is usually seen in the hands of officers, most notably Commander Bacara when he and the Galactic Marines kill Ki-Adi-Mundi, as well as in the hands of many regular clone troopers (the design of the DC-15S carbine would later influence the design and development of the E-11 blaster rifle used by the Imperial Stormtroopers in the Original Trilogy) . What weapons this is built upon (if any) is currently unknown, however its similarity to the E-11 suggests it was based on the [[Sterling SMG|Sterling L2A3]] as well.
[[Image:DC-15A-StarWars5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Commander Bacara (The one in the middle) has a DC-15S.]]

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PainMan356: /* GE M134 Minigun */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''The Matrix'':'''
[[Image:MatrixCover.jpg|right|300pxpx|thumb|''The Matrix'' (1999)]]
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==GE M134 Minigun==

Neo ([[Keanu Reeves]]) opens up with a [[GE M134 Minigun]] mounted on a Bell 212 helicopter while rescuing Morpheus. According to armorer John Bowring, they were firing the gun half-speed at 3,000rpm though the gun was capable of firing 6,000rpm.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|450px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:MatrixGEM134-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo prepares to unleash the GE M134 Minigun on the Agents in the room.]]
[[Image:MatrixGEM134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo firing the Minigun at the Agents. Bowring also commented how they had to properly distance the gun from the glass window so the force of the blanks wouldn't send the glass flying back at the actors.]]
[[Image:Matrix046.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Even in slow motion the gun is firing very fast.]]
[[Image:MatrixGEM134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note how the shells falling from the gun are bottleneck blanks.]]
[[Image:MatrixGEM134-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrels finally stop revolving after Neo kills all the Agents in the room.]]
[[Image:The_Matrix_Morpheus_Unhurt.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The Agents are dead and the room destroyed but Morpheus is miraculously unhurt. Moments, later when he attempts to jump into the helicopter, Smith fires his Desert Eagle blindly through a wall wounding Morpheus in the leg.]]

==Glock 17==

In the opening scene police burst in on Trinity ([[Carrie-Anne Moss]]) with [[Glock 17|Glock 17]] pistols drawn. These are 3rd Generation models, which were pretty new at the time the film was shot (1998).
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 3rd Generation - 9mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer armed with a Glock 17 attempts to use a Harries technique (poorly).]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officers prepare to breach the room with their Glock 17s at the ready.]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer points his Glock 17 at Trinity.]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer fires his Glock 17 at Trinity as she runs along the wall. It's safe to assume this guy isn't a real cop since his stance (both gun and flashlight) isn't close to any real form of training.]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity forces an officer to kill another with his Glock.]]

==IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX==

The Agents, including Agent Smith ([[Hugo Weaving]]), are always armed with [[Desert Eagle|IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX]] pistols, chambered in .50 Action Express.

[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX - .50 AE.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On a billboard a Desert Eagle is seen, with a vent running through the barrel to allow steam to run out, like the gun is smoking.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A copy of Agent Smith points his Desert Eagle at Neo during the training exercise.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Agent fires his Desert Eagle at Neo during the famous dodge scene on the roof.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Agent Smith fires his Desert Eagle at Morpheus through the wall.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|soaked by fire sprinklers, Smith disables the Bell 212 helicopter by firing his Desert Eagle into the fuel tank at point-blank range.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Smith holds his empty Desert Eagle on Neo.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Agent fires his Desert Eagle at Neo.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Smith shoots Neo with his Desert Eagle about a dozen times, despite only holding 7 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber; also, no Agent is ever seen reloading. However, given his status as a computer program in a virtual environment, one wonders why the weapon isn't programmed with infinite ammo.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here we see the Desert Eagle cycle crimped blank cartridges. Given that the Weaving (Smith) and Reeves (Neo) are no more than 3-4 feet apart, its doubtful that real blanks were fired at Reeves; perhaps the shots were CG? As the late actor [[Jon-Erik Hexum]] learned even blanks can kill.]]

==Beretta 84FS Cheetah==

Trinity ([[Carrie-Anne Moss]]) carries a pair of [[Beretta Cheetah|Beretta 84FS Cheetah]]s as her sidearms in the film. These were selected because Ms. Moss has small hands and full sized Beretta 92Fs would be gigantic in her hands. What is interesting to note is that besides the Micro Uzi used in the beginning of the lobby scene, this is the only gun that Trinity feels she needs to bring into a building guarded by three agents. Meanwhile, Neo packs about a dozen guns and a bomb.
[[Image:Beretta-Cheetah.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84FS Cheetah - .380 ACP.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity draws her Beretta 84FS Cheetahs at the start of the film.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity holds her Beretta Cheetah on an Agent at point blank so he is unable to dodge the bullet.]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Dodge this."]]
[[Image:MatrixWalkingArsenal-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two Beretta 84FS pistols passed off as Beretta 92FS's are seen tucked in Neo's waist. Note the forward curve on the grips and the frame mounted safeties. The size difference between the 84FS and 92FS is not that visible when tucked into a belt like this.]]

==Zastava CZ99==

Apoc ([[Julian Arahanga]]) gives Neo ([[Keanu Reeves]]) his [[Zastava CZ99]] pistol as they try and escape an Agent-led SWAT attack after visiting the Oracle. The weapon is a CZ99 and ''not'', as has been written previously, a [[SIG-Sauer P228]]; some of the weapons rental invoice documents published on Propstore.com have confirmed this. The CZ99 is a Yugoslavian-made pistol which is based on the P220 series, but is actually a very different weapon.
[[Image:Cz99-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Zastava CZ99 - 9mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixCZ99-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo examines the Zastava CZ99 Apoc gives him.]]
[[Image:MatrixCZ99-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo fires his Zastava CZ99 at the SWAT team through the wall.]]

==Beretta 92FS==

Neo ([[Keanu Reeves]]) takes at least four pairs of [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] pistols with him on his mission to save Morpheus ([[Laurence Fishburne]]), because for some reason he sees more logic in carrying eight pistols instead of just one or two with spare magazines to reload.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS - 9mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta92FS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo takes cover during the lobby shootout with a pair of Berettas drawn.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta92FS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo unloads his Berettas at the Agent on the roof, but is unable to score a hit.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Empty Berettas are seen on the ground next to Neo.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta92FS-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo holds his empty Beretta on Agent Smith.]]

==M16 (SP1)==

In the lobby shootout scene where Neo and Trinity encounter the security guard's "back-up" in the form of a unit of soldiers, the majority of the soldiers Neo and Trinity face up against are armed with [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|M16 (SP1)]] rifles with slab-side receivers. The M16s used in this scene are a mixture of rifles with 3-prong flash hiders and rifles with [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]]-style "birdcage" flash hiders. Neo uses two of these M16s during this scene, one while cartwheeling across the lobby, another while on the roof.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16 with 20-round magazine and original 3-prong flash hider - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:M16SP1Birdcage.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16 (SP1) with 20 round magazine and A1 Flash Hider - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT member fires his M16 at Trinity in the lobby.]]
[[Image:Matrixm16-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another SWAT member firing his M16 at Neo.]]
[[Image:Matrixm16-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT Member with an M16, here the 3-prong muzzle brake is visible.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo grabs an M16 while doing a cartwheel.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo fires the M16 while cartwheeling.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT member opens fire with an M16 with an A1 birdcage muzzle brake.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo disarms a SWAT member on the roof of his M16, which is clearly a rubber prop.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo fires the M16 on the roof. The SWAT member behind Neo is also armed with an M16 but fails to use the rifle on Neo due to Trinity throwing an M9 bayonet right between the soldier's eyes.]]

==Micro Uzi==

During the lobby scene, Neo and Trinity both use [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzis]], Trinity using one to kill one of the first guards and Neo using two to keep the soldiers behind cover.
[[Image:MicroUziPistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Micro Uzi with 15 rd magazine - 9mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixMicroUzi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity empties a magazine from her Micro Uzi into the last lobby guard. In reality, firing a Micro Uzi with one hand would make it very hard to control.]]
[[Image:MatrixMicroUzi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo taking cover with his Micro Uzis drawn.]]
[[Image:MatrixMicroUzi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo breaks cover and fires his Micro Uzis at the soldiers.]]

==Cobray M11/9==

Apoc ([[Julian Arahanga]]) carries a [[MAC-10#Cobray M11/9|Cobray M11/9]] converted to full-auto with a thread protector, and is famously seen firing it to lay down cover fire while he and the others are fleeing from the SWAT team (you can tell it's a Cobray M11/9 and not an original Ingram MAC-10 because the back of the receiver is elongated).
[[Image:M11 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cobray M11/9 - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixCobrayM119-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apoc in the walls with his Cobray M11/9.]]
[[Image:MatrixCobrayM119-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apoc readies his Cobray M11/9.]]
[[Image:MatrixCobrayM119-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apoc fires his Cobray M11/9.]]
[[Image:MatrixCobrayM119-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the elongated receiver.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==

In the lobby scene, Neo uses a pair of [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]s to eliminate the first set of guards.
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MatrixMP5K-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo picks up a Heckler & Koch MP5K in the virtual armory.]]
[[Image:MatrixMP5K-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo does an "HK-slap".]]
[[Image:MatrixWalkingArsenal-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo shows a lobby guard his walking arsenal, where his two MP5Ks are hanging at his hips.]]
[[Image:MatrixMP5K-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo wipes out the first set of lobby guards with a pair of MP5Ks.]]
[[Image:MatrixMP5K-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo firing his MP5Ks.]]

==Mouse's Shotguns==

Mouse's ([[Matt Doran]]) pair of shotguns are custom-built cam-operated electric driven automatic 12 gauge shotguns with 25-shell cylinders and a fire rate of 900 rounds per minute. They were crafted by [http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_cmp/int_john_bowring.html John Bowring], lead armorer of the film. As an inside joke, Bowring named the guns "Andy" (serial no. A1169 - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet Leetspeak] for Andy) and "Larry" (serial no. L2779 - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet Leetspeak] for Larry) after the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski Wachowski brothers], the writers and directors of the film. It can be assumed in the movie world, Mouse designed these shotguns for himself like he designed the woman in the red dress.
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse retrieves his Auto Shotguns from the case, which also contains belts of .50 BMG ammunition, for unknown reasons.]]
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse readies his shotguns.]]
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse unleashes the shotguns on the SWAT, but never scores a single hit.]]
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse gets barraged by the SWAT team.]]
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse fires his shotguns as he falls back.]]

==Franchi SPAS-12==

In the lobby shootout scene, a number of soldiers are armed with [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotguns, some of which are commandeered and used against their original owners by Trinity. The versions used by the soldiers have a solid fixed stock/pistol grip combination. One of them is seen firing the SPAS-12 in semi-auto mode -- a rare sight in movies. However, quick bursts of M16 fire are mistakenly dubbed over instead of the appropriate shotgun report.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Franchi SPAS-12 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Freeze!"]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier in the lobby with his Franchi SPAS-12 at the ready.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier fires his SPAS-12 at a very calm rate, which seems out of place in a rough action film.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity kicks his SPAS-12, rolls it over his shoulder, and fires it into his back.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view of Trinity shooting soldiers with the SPAS-12.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity firing the SPAS-12.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity drops the SPAS-12 after the lobby shootout.]]

==Leader Dynamics T2 MK5==

The SWAT team that breaks into the apartment building during the "deja vu" scene are armed with Australian-made Leader Dynamics [[T2 MK5 assault rifle]]s (the Semi automatic version known as the SAC). (although the weapons are never shown clearly on screen, this has been confirmed by the rental invoices from Propstore, which also has one of the rubber AAA carbines on sale). The T2 Mk5 is loosely based on the [[Armalite AR-18]] and was planned to be the next service rifle of the Australian Army, but the rifle lost out to the [[Steyr AUG]] during the Australian Army's service rifle trials. The versions used in ''The Matrix'' are the "Commando" version which have 11.5-inch barrels; the weapons are also fitted with large tactical flashlights and laser sights. The use of an Australian weapon in this case makes sense, as most of this was filmed in Sydney, Australia.
[[Image:LeaderT2Mk5Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Leader Dynamics T2 MK5 Assault Rifles - Select Fire Police Version with Short barrel - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixAAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT member is seen left holding a Leader Dynamics T2 MK5 fitted with a 20 round magazine.]]
[[Image:MatrixAAA-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT member searches the building with his T2 MK5.]]
[[Image:MatrixAAA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SWAT members prepare to fire their T2 MK5s at the protagonists.]]

==Skorpion SA Vz 61==

Neo fires a pair of [[Skorpion SA|Skorpion SA Vz 61]] submachine guns fitted with muzzle shrouds and 30 round magazines during the lobby shootout.
[[Image:Skorpion-SA-VZ-61.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Skorpion SA Vz 61 - .32 ACP.]]
[[Image:MatrixWalkingArsenal-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo shows the lobby guard his walking arsenal, with his Skorpion SA Vz 61s hanging on his legs.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo takes cover while armed with his Skorpion SA Vz 61s.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo with his Skorpion SAs.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo fires his Skorpions. These guns are great for firing in slow motion because the blowback action looks very cool in slo-mo.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shell casings falling from the guns are inaccurately shown as 5.56x45mm shells, which are far larger than .32 ACP rounds. Also, the rounds fall too far directly under the guns, while a Skorpion's ejection port sends the spent shells up and to the right. Since the casing look like real shells and not blanks, it can be assumed they just dropped handfulls of shells to get the effect.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo firing his Skorpions.]]

==Browning Hi-Power==

Switch ([[Belinda McClory]]) is seen carrying a silver chrome [[Browning Hi-Power]] with adjustable sights in 9mm caliber as her weapon of choice, first holding Neo at gunpoint with it while Trinity removes the "bug" the Agents planted in him, then using it to lay down cover fire along with Apoc while the others escaped the SWAT team, taking out several SWAT members in the process.

[[Image:BrowningHiPowerNickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Browning Hi-Power Nickel plated 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Switch holds her Browning Hi-Power on Neo when they pick him up off the street.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Switch offers Neo their way, or the highway.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good side shot of Switch's Hi-Power when Neo steps out of the car.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While the muzzle diameter looks large, it is just the large barrel bushing that is seen on Hi-Powers after 1973 and before the Mark III series. The lack of light hides the actual barrel from sight.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Switch with her Hi-Power while waiting for the phone to ring.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Switch shocked at Cypher's change of heart.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel==

A lobby guard tries to shoot at Neo ([[Keanu Reeves]]) with a heavy barrel [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] before being killed by Trinity ([[Carrie-Anne Moss]]).
[[Image:SW103inch.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 10 heavy Barrel .38 Special]]
[[Image:MatrixS&W10HB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A lobby guard calls for backup with his Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel drawn.]]
[[Image:MatrixS&W10HB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard tries to shoot Trinity but is mowed down.]]

==M7 CS Gas Grenade==

During the "deja vu" scene, a SWAT member throws an [[M7 CS gas grenade]] at the protagonists.

[[Image:M7A3.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M7 CS gas grenade]]
[[Image:MatrixSmokeGrenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M7 gas grenade lands.]]

==The Virtual Armory==

The following guns are seen in the virtual armory when Neo and Trinity arm up to save Morpheus:
[[Image:MatrixArmory-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Behind Neo: On the top shelf are two [[Sterling SMG | Sterling L2A3]] submachine guns, three [[MAC-10#Cobray M11/9|Cobray M11/9]], a few [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] pistols, two [[Heckler & Koch USP]] pistols, two [[Glock]]s, three [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzi]]s, seven more Berettas, two [[Zastava CZ99]] pistols, and some [[Glock]]s trailing off-screen. On the second shelf are nine [[Skorpion SA|Skorpion SA Vz 61]] submachine guns, what appears to be two [[Madsen M50]] submachine guns, several [[AK-47#AKM|AKMs]] behind them and six [[M60 machine gun]]s. On the final shelf are two possible [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]]s or MPi-81s, a possible [[Sterling SMG]], and five [[SA Vz.58 assault rifle]]s.]]
[[Image:MatrixArmory-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Behind Trinity: On the top shelf are six [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]s, six [[Glock]] pistols, and six [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] pistols. On the second shelf are four [[M16]] rifles (one with a 30 round magazine), three Australian Owen Submachine guns with Late War Camo paint pattern, two [[Thompson#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompsons]], an [[Thompson#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928 Thompson]] with a 30 round magazine, an [[Thompson#M1A1 Thompson|M1A1 Thompson]], another M1928A1 Thompson, and an [[M1 Garand]].]]

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PainMan356: /* IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''The Matrix'':'''
[[Image:MatrixCover.jpg|right|300pxpx|thumb|''The Matrix'' (1999)]]
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==GE M134 Minigun==

Neo ([[Keanu Reeves]]) opens up with a [[GE M134 Minigun]] mounted on a Bell 212 helicopter while rescuing Morpheus. According to armorer John Bowring, they were firing the gun half-speed at 3,000rpm though the gun was capable of firing 6,000rpm.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|450px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:MatrixGEM134-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo prepares to unleash the GE M134 Minigun on the Agents in the room.]]
[[Image:MatrixGEM134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo firing the Minigun at the Agents. Bowring also commented how they had to properly distance the gun from the glass window so the force of the blanks wouldn't send the glass flying back at the actors.]]
[[Image:Matrix046.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Even in slow motion the gun is firing very fast.]]
[[Image:MatrixGEM134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note how the shells falling from the gun are bottleneck blanks.]]
[[Image:MatrixGEM134-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrels finally stop revolving after Neo kills all the Agents in the room.]]

==Glock 17==

In the opening scene police burst in on Trinity ([[Carrie-Anne Moss]]) with [[Glock 17|Glock 17]] pistols drawn. These are 3rd Generation models, which were pretty new at the time the film was shot (1998).
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 3rd Generation - 9mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer armed with a Glock 17 attempts to use a Harries technique (poorly).]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officers prepare to breach the room with their Glock 17s at the ready.]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer points his Glock 17 at Trinity.]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer fires his Glock 17 at Trinity as she runs along the wall. It's safe to assume this guy isn't a real cop since his stance (both gun and flashlight) isn't close to any real form of training.]]
[[Image:MatrixGlock17-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity forces an officer to kill another with his Glock.]]

==IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX==

The Agents, including Agent Smith ([[Hugo Weaving]]), are always armed with [[Desert Eagle|IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX]] pistols, chambered in .50 Action Express.

[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX - .50 AE.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On a billboard a Desert Eagle is seen, with a vent running through the barrel to allow steam to run out, like the gun is smoking.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A copy of Agent Smith points his Desert Eagle at Neo during the training exercise.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Agent fires his Desert Eagle at Neo during the famous dodge scene on the roof.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Agent Smith fires his Desert Eagle at Morpheus through the wall.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|soaked by fire sprinklers, Smith disables the Bell 212 helicopter by firing his Desert Eagle into the fuel tank at point-blank range.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Smith holds his empty Desert Eagle on Neo.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Agent fires his Desert Eagle at Neo.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Smith shoots Neo with his Desert Eagle about a dozen times, despite only holding 7 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber; also, no Agent is ever seen reloading. However, given his status as a computer program in a virtual environment, one wonders why the weapon isn't programmed with infinite ammo.]]
[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here we see the Desert Eagle cycle crimped blank cartridges. Given that the Weaving (Smith) and Reeves (Neo) are no more than 3-4 feet apart, its doubtful that real blanks were fired at Reeves; perhaps the shots were CG? As the late actor [[Jon-Erik Hexum]] learned even blanks can kill.]]

==Beretta 84FS Cheetah==

Trinity ([[Carrie-Anne Moss]]) carries a pair of [[Beretta Cheetah|Beretta 84FS Cheetah]]s as her sidearms in the film. These were selected because Ms. Moss has small hands and full sized Beretta 92Fs would be gigantic in her hands. What is interesting to note is that besides the Micro Uzi used in the beginning of the lobby scene, this is the only gun that Trinity feels she needs to bring into a building guarded by three agents. Meanwhile, Neo packs about a dozen guns and a bomb.
[[Image:Beretta-Cheetah.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84FS Cheetah - .380 ACP.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity draws her Beretta 84FS Cheetahs at the start of the film.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity holds her Beretta Cheetah on an Agent at point blank so he is unable to dodge the bullet.]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Dodge this."]]
[[Image:MatrixWalkingArsenal-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two Beretta 84FS pistols passed off as Beretta 92FS's are seen tucked in Neo's waist. Note the forward curve on the grips and the frame mounted safeties. The size difference between the 84FS and 92FS is not that visible when tucked into a belt like this.]]

==Zastava CZ99==

Apoc ([[Julian Arahanga]]) gives Neo ([[Keanu Reeves]]) his [[Zastava CZ99]] pistol as they try and escape an Agent-led SWAT attack after visiting the Oracle. The weapon is a CZ99 and ''not'', as has been written previously, a [[SIG-Sauer P228]]; some of the weapons rental invoice documents published on Propstore.com have confirmed this. The CZ99 is a Yugoslavian-made pistol which is based on the P220 series, but is actually a very different weapon.
[[Image:Cz99-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Zastava CZ99 - 9mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixCZ99-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo examines the Zastava CZ99 Apoc gives him.]]
[[Image:MatrixCZ99-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo fires his Zastava CZ99 at the SWAT team through the wall.]]

==Beretta 92FS==

Neo ([[Keanu Reeves]]) takes at least four pairs of [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] pistols with him on his mission to save Morpheus ([[Laurence Fishburne]]), because for some reason he sees more logic in carrying eight pistols instead of just one or two with spare magazines to reload.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS - 9mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta92FS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo takes cover during the lobby shootout with a pair of Berettas drawn.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta92FS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo unloads his Berettas at the Agent on the roof, but is unable to score a hit.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Empty Berettas are seen on the ground next to Neo.]]
[[Image:MatrixBeretta92FS-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo holds his empty Beretta on Agent Smith.]]

==M16 (SP1)==

In the lobby shootout scene where Neo and Trinity encounter the security guard's "back-up" in the form of a unit of soldiers, the majority of the soldiers Neo and Trinity face up against are armed with [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|M16 (SP1)]] rifles with slab-side receivers. The M16s used in this scene are a mixture of rifles with 3-prong flash hiders and rifles with [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]]-style "birdcage" flash hiders. Neo uses two of these M16s during this scene, one while cartwheeling across the lobby, another while on the roof.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16 with 20-round magazine and original 3-prong flash hider - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:M16SP1Birdcage.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16 (SP1) with 20 round magazine and A1 Flash Hider - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT member fires his M16 at Trinity in the lobby.]]
[[Image:Matrixm16-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another SWAT member firing his M16 at Neo.]]
[[Image:Matrixm16-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT Member with an M16, here the 3-prong muzzle brake is visible.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo grabs an M16 while doing a cartwheel.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo fires the M16 while cartwheeling.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT member opens fire with an M16 with an A1 birdcage muzzle brake.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo disarms a SWAT member on the roof of his M16, which is clearly a rubber prop.]]
[[Image:MatrixM16-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo fires the M16 on the roof. The SWAT member behind Neo is also armed with an M16 but fails to use the rifle on Neo due to Trinity throwing an M9 bayonet right between the soldier's eyes.]]

==Micro Uzi==

During the lobby scene, Neo and Trinity both use [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzis]], Trinity using one to kill one of the first guards and Neo using two to keep the soldiers behind cover.
[[Image:MicroUziPistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Micro Uzi with 15 rd magazine - 9mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixMicroUzi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity empties a magazine from her Micro Uzi into the last lobby guard. In reality, firing a Micro Uzi with one hand would make it very hard to control.]]
[[Image:MatrixMicroUzi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo taking cover with his Micro Uzis drawn.]]
[[Image:MatrixMicroUzi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo breaks cover and fires his Micro Uzis at the soldiers.]]

==Cobray M11/9==

Apoc ([[Julian Arahanga]]) carries a [[MAC-10#Cobray M11/9|Cobray M11/9]] converted to full-auto with a thread protector, and is famously seen firing it to lay down cover fire while he and the others are fleeing from the SWAT team (you can tell it's a Cobray M11/9 and not an original Ingram MAC-10 because the back of the receiver is elongated).
[[Image:M11 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cobray M11/9 - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixCobrayM119-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apoc in the walls with his Cobray M11/9.]]
[[Image:MatrixCobrayM119-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apoc readies his Cobray M11/9.]]
[[Image:MatrixCobrayM119-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apoc fires his Cobray M11/9.]]
[[Image:MatrixCobrayM119-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the elongated receiver.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==

In the lobby scene, Neo uses a pair of [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]s to eliminate the first set of guards.
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MatrixMP5K-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo picks up a Heckler & Koch MP5K in the virtual armory.]]
[[Image:MatrixMP5K-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo does an "HK-slap".]]
[[Image:MatrixWalkingArsenal-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo shows a lobby guard his walking arsenal, where his two MP5Ks are hanging at his hips.]]
[[Image:MatrixMP5K-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo wipes out the first set of lobby guards with a pair of MP5Ks.]]
[[Image:MatrixMP5K-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo firing his MP5Ks.]]

==Mouse's Shotguns==

Mouse's ([[Matt Doran]]) pair of shotguns are custom-built cam-operated electric driven automatic 12 gauge shotguns with 25-shell cylinders and a fire rate of 900 rounds per minute. They were crafted by [http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_cmp/int_john_bowring.html John Bowring], lead armorer of the film. As an inside joke, Bowring named the guns "Andy" (serial no. A1169 - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet Leetspeak] for Andy) and "Larry" (serial no. L2779 - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet Leetspeak] for Larry) after the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski Wachowski brothers], the writers and directors of the film. It can be assumed in the movie world, Mouse designed these shotguns for himself like he designed the woman in the red dress.
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse retrieves his Auto Shotguns from the case, which also contains belts of .50 BMG ammunition, for unknown reasons.]]
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse readies his shotguns.]]
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse unleashes the shotguns on the SWAT, but never scores a single hit.]]
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse gets barraged by the SWAT team.]]
[[Image:MatrixAutoShotguns-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mouse fires his shotguns as he falls back.]]

==Franchi SPAS-12==

In the lobby shootout scene, a number of soldiers are armed with [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotguns, some of which are commandeered and used against their original owners by Trinity. The versions used by the soldiers have a solid fixed stock/pistol grip combination. One of them is seen firing the SPAS-12 in semi-auto mode -- a rare sight in movies. However, quick bursts of M16 fire are mistakenly dubbed over instead of the appropriate shotgun report.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Franchi SPAS-12 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Freeze!"]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier in the lobby with his Franchi SPAS-12 at the ready.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier fires his SPAS-12 at a very calm rate, which seems out of place in a rough action film.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity kicks his SPAS-12, rolls it over his shoulder, and fires it into his back.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view of Trinity shooting soldiers with the SPAS-12.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity firing the SPAS-12.]]
[[Image:MatrixSPAS12-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trinity drops the SPAS-12 after the lobby shootout.]]

==Leader Dynamics T2 MK5==

The SWAT team that breaks into the apartment building during the "deja vu" scene are armed with Australian-made Leader Dynamics [[T2 MK5 assault rifle]]s (the Semi automatic version known as the SAC). (although the weapons are never shown clearly on screen, this has been confirmed by the rental invoices from Propstore, which also has one of the rubber AAA carbines on sale). The T2 Mk5 is loosely based on the [[Armalite AR-18]] and was planned to be the next service rifle of the Australian Army, but the rifle lost out to the [[Steyr AUG]] during the Australian Army's service rifle trials. The versions used in ''The Matrix'' are the "Commando" version which have 11.5-inch barrels; the weapons are also fitted with large tactical flashlights and laser sights. The use of an Australian weapon in this case makes sense, as most of this was filmed in Sydney, Australia.
[[Image:LeaderT2Mk5Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Leader Dynamics T2 MK5 Assault Rifles - Select Fire Police Version with Short barrel - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixAAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT member is seen left holding a Leader Dynamics T2 MK5 fitted with a 20 round magazine.]]
[[Image:MatrixAAA-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT member searches the building with his T2 MK5.]]
[[Image:MatrixAAA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SWAT members prepare to fire their T2 MK5s at the protagonists.]]

==Skorpion SA Vz 61==

Neo fires a pair of [[Skorpion SA|Skorpion SA Vz 61]] submachine guns fitted with muzzle shrouds and 30 round magazines during the lobby shootout.
[[Image:Skorpion-SA-VZ-61.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Skorpion SA Vz 61 - .32 ACP.]]
[[Image:MatrixWalkingArsenal-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo shows the lobby guard his walking arsenal, with his Skorpion SA Vz 61s hanging on his legs.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo takes cover while armed with his Skorpion SA Vz 61s.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo with his Skorpion SAs.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo fires his Skorpions. These guns are great for firing in slow motion because the blowback action looks very cool in slo-mo.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shell casings falling from the guns are inaccurately shown as 5.56x45mm shells, which are far larger than .32 ACP rounds. Also, the rounds fall too far directly under the guns, while a Skorpion's ejection port sends the spent shells up and to the right. Since the casing look like real shells and not blanks, it can be assumed they just dropped handfulls of shells to get the effect.]]
[[Image:MatrixSkorpionSA-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neo firing his Skorpions.]]

==Browning Hi-Power==

Switch ([[Belinda McClory]]) is seen carrying a silver chrome [[Browning Hi-Power]] with adjustable sights in 9mm caliber as her weapon of choice, first holding Neo at gunpoint with it while Trinity removes the "bug" the Agents planted in him, then using it to lay down cover fire along with Apoc while the others escaped the SWAT team, taking out several SWAT members in the process.

[[Image:BrowningHiPowerNickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Browning Hi-Power Nickel plated 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Switch holds her Browning Hi-Power on Neo when they pick him up off the street.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Switch offers Neo their way, or the highway.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good side shot of Switch's Hi-Power when Neo steps out of the car.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While the muzzle diameter looks large, it is just the large barrel bushing that is seen on Hi-Powers after 1973 and before the Mark III series. The lack of light hides the actual barrel from sight.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Switch with her Hi-Power while waiting for the phone to ring.]]
[[Image:MatrixBrowningHP-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Switch shocked at Cypher's change of heart.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel==

A lobby guard tries to shoot at Neo ([[Keanu Reeves]]) with a heavy barrel [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] before being killed by Trinity ([[Carrie-Anne Moss]]).
[[Image:SW103inch.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 10 heavy Barrel .38 Special]]
[[Image:MatrixS&W10HB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A lobby guard calls for backup with his Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel drawn.]]
[[Image:MatrixS&W10HB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard tries to shoot Trinity but is mowed down.]]

==M7 CS Gas Grenade==

During the "deja vu" scene, a SWAT member throws an [[M7 CS gas grenade]] at the protagonists.

[[Image:M7A3.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M7 CS gas grenade]]
[[Image:MatrixSmokeGrenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M7 gas grenade lands.]]

==The Virtual Armory==

The following guns are seen in the virtual armory when Neo and Trinity arm up to save Morpheus:
[[Image:MatrixArmory-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Behind Neo: On the top shelf are two [[Sterling SMG | Sterling L2A3]] submachine guns, three [[MAC-10#Cobray M11/9|Cobray M11/9]], a few [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] pistols, two [[Heckler & Koch USP]] pistols, two [[Glock]]s, three [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzi]]s, seven more Berettas, two [[Zastava CZ99]] pistols, and some [[Glock]]s trailing off-screen. On the second shelf are nine [[Skorpion SA|Skorpion SA Vz 61]] submachine guns, what appears to be two [[Madsen M50]] submachine guns, several [[AK-47#AKM|AKMs]] behind them and six [[M60 machine gun]]s. On the final shelf are two possible [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]]s or MPi-81s, a possible [[Sterling SMG]], and five [[SA Vz.58 assault rifle]]s.]]
[[Image:MatrixArmory-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Behind Trinity: On the top shelf are six [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]s, six [[Glock]] pistols, and six [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] pistols. On the second shelf are four [[M16]] rifles (one with a 30 round magazine), three Australian Owen Submachine guns with Late War Camo paint pattern, two [[Thompson#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompsons]], an [[Thompson#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928 Thompson]] with a 30 round magazine, an [[Thompson#M1A1 Thompson|M1A1 Thompson]], another M1928A1 Thompson, and an [[M1 Garand]].]]

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Star Trek: Voyager

2010-09-10T08:00:08Z

PainMan356:

'''Star Trek: Voyager''' was the third of the four series spawned from [[Star Trek (Original Series)|Star Trek: The Original Series]]. It ran for seven seasons (1995 - 2001) and was the first "Trek" series to cast a woman (Kate Mulgrew) as captain. Robert Beltran, Jeri Ryan, Robert Picardo, Garrett Wang, Roxann Dawson, Robert Duncan McNeil, Jennifer Lien, Ethan Phillips and Tim Russ starred as the "core" cast.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the television series ''Star Trek: Voyager'':'''
[[Image:Voyager_Boxed_Set_Season_1_Cover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'' (1995 - 2001)]]
= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militia members that kidnap Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols. They fire on the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft. In order to avoid bloodshed, the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]) enters the militia shelter as the latter try vainly to shoot him, unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to gunfire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militia member, Beretta 92F in hand, is stunned by the Doctor with a phaser.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

=Submachine Guns=
== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

=Rifles=
== Gewehr 98/40 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", German soldiers and Hirogen hunters can be seen carrying [[Gewehr 98/40]] rifles as their standard weapon (anachronistically standing in for the [[Karabiner 98k]]), one of which Katherine Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) comandeers when persuing a Hirogen after breaking free of the brainwashing imposed on her and the other members of the crew trapped in the holodeck.

[[Image:Gewehr9840.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Hungarian-made German Gewehr 98/40 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Hirogen hunter brandishes a Gewehr 98/40 while pursuing Katherine Janeway in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - karabiner982.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two holographic Wehrmacht soldiers fire Gewehr 98/40 in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand, while B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]} appears to have emptied her Colt .45 pistol; from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== AKU-94 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", Kradin soldiers can be seen carrying [[AK-47#AKU-94|AKU-94]]s dressed up to resemble alien weapons.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|K-Var AKU-94 Bullpup - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holds his [[AK-47#AKU-94|AKU-94]] on Chakotay.]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.
[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]

== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", members of the Vori army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon, Chakotay being given one when he joins them in their war against the Kradin, their sworn enemy. Some of these can also be seen fitted with tactical flashlights on the carry handle.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extremists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

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Star Trek: Voyager

2010-09-10T07:44:43Z

PainMan356:

'''Star Trek: Voyager''' was the third of the four series spawned from [[Star Trek (Original Series)|Star Trek: The Original Series]]. It ran for seven seasons (1995 - 2001) and was the first "Trek" series to cast a woman (Kate Mulgrew) as captain. Robert Beltran, Jeri Ryan, Robert Picardo, Garrett Wang, Roxann Dawson, Robert Duncan McNeil, Jennifer Lien, Ethan Phillips and Tim Russ starred as the "core" cast.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the television series ''Star Trek: Voyager'':'''
[[Image:Voyager - BoxCover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'' (1995 - 2001)]]
= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militia members that kidnap Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols. They fire on the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft. In order to avoid bloodshed, the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]) enters the militia shelter as the latter try vainly to shoot him, unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to gunfire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militia member, Beretta 92F in hand, is stunned by the Doctor with a phaser.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

=Submachine Guns=
== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

=Rifles=
== Gewehr 98/40 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", German soldiers and Hirogen hunters can be seen carrying [[Gewehr 98/40]] rifles as their standard weapon (anachronistically standing in for the [[Karabiner 98k]]), one of which Katherine Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) comandeers when persuing a Hirogen after breaking free of the brainwashing imposed on her and the other members of the crew trapped in the holodeck.

[[Image:Gewehr9840.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Hungarian-made German Gewehr 98/40 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Hirogen hunter brandishes a Gewehr 98/40 while pursuing Katherine Janeway in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - karabiner982.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two holographic Wehrmacht soldiers fire Gewehr 98/40 in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand, while B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]} appears to have emptied her Colt .45 pistol; from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== AKU-94 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", Kradin soldiers can be seen carrying [[AK-47#AKU-94|AKU-94]]s dressed up to resemble alien weapons.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|K-Var AKU-94 Bullpup - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holds his [[AK-47#AKU-94|AKU-94]] on Chakotay.]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.
[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]

== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", members of the Vori army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon, Chakotay being given one when he joins them in their war against the Kradin, their sworn enemy. Some of these can also be seen fitted with tactical flashlights on the carry handle.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extremists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

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Star Trek: Voyager

2010-09-07T08:50:51Z

PainMan356: added an intro

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'''Star Trek: Voyager''' was the third of the four spin-off series from '''Star Trek: The Original Series'''. It ran for seven seasons (1995-2001) and was the first "Trek" series to cast a woman (Kate Mulgrew) as captain. Robert Beltran, Jeri Ryan, Robert Picardo, Garrett Wang, Roxann Dawson, Robert Duncan McNeil and Tim Russ also starred as the "core" cast.

'''The following weapons can be seen in ''Voyager'':'''
[[Image:VOYlogo.png|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'']]

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= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militia members that kidnap Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols. They fire on the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft. In order to avoid bloodshed, the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]) enters the militia shelter as the latter try vainly to shoot him, unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to gunfire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militia member, Beretta 92F in hand, is stunned by the Doctor with a phaser.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

=Submachine Guns=
== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

=Rifles=
== Gewehr 98/40 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", German soldiers and Hirogen hunters can be seen carrying [[Gewehr 98/40]] rifles as their standard weapon (anachronistically standing in for the [[Karabiner 98k]]), one of which Katherine Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) comandeers when persuing a Hirogen after breaking free of the brainwashing imposed on her and the other members of the crew trapped in the holodeck.

[[Image:Gewehr9840.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Hungarian-made German Gewehr 98/40 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Hirogen hunter brandishes a Gewehr 98/40 while pursuing Katherine Janeway in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - karabiner982.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two holographic Wehrmacht soldiers fire Gewehr 98/40 in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playinwith tactical flashlights on the carry handle.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extg a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand, while B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]} appears to have emptied her Colt .45 pistol; from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== AKU-94 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", Kradin soldiers can be seen carrying [[AK-47#AKU-94|AKU-94]]s dressed up to resemble alien weapons.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|K-Var AKU-94 Bullpup - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holds his [[AK-47#AKU-94|AKU-94]] on Chakotay.]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.
[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]

== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", members of the Vori army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon, Chakotay being given one when he joins them in their war against the Kradin, their sworn enemy. Some of these can also be seen fitted remists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

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[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Star Trek]]

Star Trek: Voyager

2010-09-07T07:59:11Z

PainMan356: /* Beretta 92F */

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'''The following weapons can be seen in the television series ''Star Trek: Voyager'':'''
[[Image:VOYlogo.png|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'' (1995 - 2001)]]

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= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militia members that kidnap Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols. They fire on the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft. In order to avoid bloodshed, the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]) enters the militia shelter as the latter try vainly to shoot him, unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to gunfire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militia member, Beretta 92F in hand, is stunned by the Doctor with a phaser.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

=Submachine Guns=
== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

=Rifles=
== Gewehr 98/40 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", German soldiers and Hirogen hunters can be seen carrying [[Gewehr 98/40]] rifles as their standard weapon (anachronistically standing in for the [[Karabiner 98k]]), one of which Katherine Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) comandeers when persuing a Hirogen after breaking free of the brainwashing imposed on her and the other members of the crew trapped in the holodeck.

[[Image:Gewehr9840.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Hungarian-made German Gewehr 98/40 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Hirogen hunter brandishes a Gewehr 98/40 while pursuing Katherine Janeway in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - karabiner982.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two holographic Wehrmacht soldiers fire Gewehr 98/40 in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand, while B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]} appears to have emptied her Colt .45 pistol; from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== AKU-94 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", Kradin soldiers can be seen carrying [[AK-47#AKU-94|AKU-94]]s dressed up to resemble alien weapons.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|K-Var AKU-94 Bullpup - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holds his [[AK-47#AKU-94|AKU-94]] on Chakotay.]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.
[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]

== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", members of the Vori army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon, Chakotay being given one when he joins them in their war against the Kradin, their sworn enemy. Some of these can also be seen fitted with tactical flashlights on the carry handle.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extremists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

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[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Star Trek]]

We Were Soldiers

2010-09-06T12:15:44Z

PainMan356: /* Smith & Wesson Model 15 */

'''We Were Soldiers''', is a film [http://www.amazon.com/Were-Soldiers-Widescreen-Mel-Gibson/dp/B000068TPN/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769367&sr=1-1] directed by Randall Wallace and starring [[Mel Gibson]], [[Barry Pepper]] and [[Sam Elliott]], based on the book ''We Were Soldiers Once...And Young'' by Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, US Army (ret) and former UPI reporter Joe Galloway [http://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Soldiers-Once-Young/dp/034547581X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769314&sr=1-1] (played by Gibson and Pepper respectively) about the first major battle between the American Army and the People's Army of Vietnam in the Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands of Vietnam. Gen. Moore, in documentary on the DVD, states that this film is the only one which gets "[the Vietnam war] right."

Although the battle would last more than 300 days, the movie covers only the initial engagement, the first time "[[Air Mobile Infantry]]"--called "the helicopter soldiers" by a Vietnamese officer--was used in combat. Over 3 days, Moore's regiment kill over 1800 enemy soldiers out of 4,000, for the loss of 72 out of his of 395 men. The utterly lop-sided casualty figures helped to convince Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and Vietnam theater commander Gen. William Westmoreland that the communist north Vietnamese could be persuaded to give up their attempt to conquer the south using attrition tactics. Events, of course, would prove this strategy disastrous.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([[Robert Bagnell]]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. "I will be the first to set foot on the field."]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy, before being cut off and surrounded early in the battle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette ([[Josh Daugherty]]) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"No one's a non-combatant today." UPI reporter Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]), co-author of the book which the movie is based on, is forced to defend himself; his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. According to director Randall Wallace's DVD commentary, the final bayonet charge which ends the battle did not take place in the actual engagement.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"When I need an M-16, there'll be plenty of them [lying on the ground]." A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam, the formal title of South Vietnam) interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail. During filming, however, brass from the expended 'star crimped' blanks unavoidably flies out of the weapon.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner is shot inside the helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the M-16; when Moore praises the latter, Plumley says, "[It has] too much plastic...feels like a bb gun to me. I think I'll stick with my pistol." It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military from World War II to Vietnam and only replaced the late 1980s. However they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to defend yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An production photo of Captain Nadal and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1953 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy? ...If I see you again, I'll kill you." Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4s]] can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.the Vietnamese captured [[MAT-49]] from French forces in Indochina Conflict.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer uses an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) uses his siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army(Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
In one scene, a wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] aka "Willie Pete" at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga ]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

We Were Soldiers

2010-09-06T10:03:50Z

PainMan356: /* M1911 */

'''We Were Soldiers''', is a film [http://www.amazon.com/Were-Soldiers-Widescreen-Mel-Gibson/dp/B000068TPN/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769367&sr=1-1] directed by Randall Wallace and starring [[Mel Gibson]], [[Barry Pepper]] and [[Sam Elliott]], based on the book ''We Were Soldiers Once...And Young'' by Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, US Army (ret) and former UPI reporter Joe Galloway [http://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Soldiers-Once-Young/dp/034547581X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769314&sr=1-1] (played by Gibson and Pepper respectively) about the first major battle between the American Army and the People's Army of Vietnam in the Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands of Vietnam. Gen. Moore, in documentary on the DVD, states that this film is the only one which gets "[the Vietnam war] right."

Although the battle would last more than 300 days, the movie covers only the initial engagement, the first time "[[Air Mobile Infantry]]"--called "the helicopter soldiers" by a Vietnamese officer--was used in combat. Over 3 days, Moore's regiment kill over 1800 enemy soldiers out of 4,000, for the loss of 72 out of his of 395 men. The utterly lop-sided casualty figures helped to convince Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and Vietnam theater commander Gen. William Westmoreland that the communist north Vietnamese could be persuaded to give up their attempt to conquer the south using attrition tactics. Events, of course, would prove this strategy disastrous.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([[Robert Bagnell]]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. "I will be the first to set foot on the field."]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy, before being cut off and surrounded early in the battle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette ([[Josh Daugherty]]) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"No one's a non-combatant today." UPI reporter Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]), co-author of the book which the movie is based on, is forced to defend himself; his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. According to director Randall Wallace's DVD commentary, the final bayonet charge which ends the battle did not take place in the actual engagement.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"When I need an M-16, there'll be plenty of them [lying on the ground]." A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam, the formal title of South Vietnam) interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail. During filming, however, brass from the expended 'star crimped' blanks unavoidably flies out of the weapon.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner is shot inside the helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the M-16; when Moore praises the latter, Plumley says, "[It has] too much plastic...feels like a bb gun to me. I think I'll stick with my pistol." It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military from World War II to Vietnam and only replaced the late 1980s. However they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to defend yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An production photo of Captain Nadal and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1953 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4s]] can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.the Vietnamese captured [[MAT-49]] from French forces in Indochina Conflict.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer uses an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) uses his siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army(Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
In one scene, a wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] aka "Willie Pete" at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga ]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

We Were Soldiers

2010-09-06T09:56:54Z

PainMan356: /* M60 Machine Gun */

'''We Were Soldiers''', is a film [http://www.amazon.com/Were-Soldiers-Widescreen-Mel-Gibson/dp/B000068TPN/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769367&sr=1-1] directed by Randall Wallace and starring [[Mel Gibson]], [[Barry Pepper]] and [[Sam Elliott]], based on the book ''We Were Soldiers Once...And Young'' by Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, US Army (ret) and former UPI reporter Joe Galloway [http://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Soldiers-Once-Young/dp/034547581X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769314&sr=1-1] (played by Gibson and Pepper respectively) about the first major battle between the American Army and the People's Army of Vietnam in the Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands of Vietnam. Gen. Moore, in documentary on the DVD, states that this film is the only one which gets "[the Vietnam war] right."

Although the battle would last more than 300 days, the movie covers only the initial engagement, the first time "[[Air Mobile Infantry]]"--called "the helicopter soldiers" by a Vietnamese officer--was used in combat. Over 3 days, Moore's regiment kill over 1800 enemy soldiers out of 4,000, for the loss of 72 out of his of 395 men. The utterly lop-sided casualty figures helped to convince Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and Vietnam theater commander Gen. William Westmoreland that the communist north Vietnamese could be persuaded to give up their attempt to conquer the south using attrition tactics. Events, of course, would prove this strategy disastrous.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([[Robert Bagnell]]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. "I will be the first to set foot on the field."]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy, before being cut off and surrounded early in the battle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette ([[Josh Daugherty]]) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"No one's a non-combatant today." UPI reporter Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]), co-author of the book which the movie is based on, is forced to defend himself; his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. According to director Randall Wallace's DVD commentary, the final bayonet charge which ends the battle did not take place in the actual engagement.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"When I need an M-16, there'll be plenty of them [lying on the ground]." A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam, the formal title of South Vietnam) interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail. During filming, however, brass from the expended 'star crimped' blanks unavoidably flies out of the weapon.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner is shot inside the helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the XM16E1 (which he calls a "Piece of Plastic"). It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War II and the Korean War, however they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to Defend Yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An production photo of Captain Nadal and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1953 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4s]] can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.the Vietnamese captured [[MAT-49]] from French forces in Indochina Conflict.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer uses an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) uses his siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army(Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
In one scene, a wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] aka "Willie Pete" at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga ]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

We Were Soldiers

2010-09-06T09:54:33Z

PainMan356: /* M60 Machine Gun */

'''We Were Soldiers''', is a film [http://www.amazon.com/Were-Soldiers-Widescreen-Mel-Gibson/dp/B000068TPN/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769367&sr=1-1] directed by Randall Wallace and starring [[Mel Gibson]], [[Barry Pepper]] and [[Sam Elliott]], based on the book ''We Were Soldiers Once...And Young'' by Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, US Army (ret) and former UPI reporter Joe Galloway [http://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Soldiers-Once-Young/dp/034547581X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769314&sr=1-1] (played by Gibson and Pepper respectively) about the first major battle between the American Army and the People's Army of Vietnam in the Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands of Vietnam. Gen. Moore, in documentary on the DVD, states that this film is the only one which gets "[the Vietnam war] right."

Although the battle would last more than 300 days, the movie covers only the initial engagement, the first time "[[Air Mobile Infantry]]"--called "the helicopter soldiers" by a Vietnamese officer--was used in combat. Over 3 days, Moore's regiment kill over 1800 enemy soldiers out of 4,000, for the loss of 72 out of his of 395 men. The utterly lop-sided casualty figures helped to convince Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and Vietnam theater commander Gen. William Westmoreland that the communist north Vietnamese could be persuaded to give up their attempt to conquer the south using attrition tactics. Events, of course, would prove this strategy disastrous.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([[Robert Bagnell]]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. "I will be the first to set foot on the field."]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy, before being cut off and surrounded early in the battle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette ([[Josh Daugherty]]) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"No one's a non-combatant today." UPI reporter Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]), co-author of the book which the movie is based on, is forced to defend himself; his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. According to director Randall Wallace's DVD commentary, the final bayonet charge which ends the battle did not take place in the actual engagement.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"When I need an M-16, there'll be plenty of them [lying on the ground]." A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam, the formal title of South Vietnam) interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 brass casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail, however during the firing sequence, expended 'star crimped' brass unavoidably flies out of the machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner is shot inside the helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the XM16E1 (which he calls a "Piece of Plastic"). It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War II and the Korean War, however they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to Defend Yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An production photo of Captain Nadal and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1953 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4s]] can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.the Vietnamese captured [[MAT-49]] from French forces in Indochina Conflict.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer uses an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) uses his siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army(Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
In one scene, a wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] aka "Willie Pete" at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga ]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

We Were Soldiers

2010-09-06T09:50:35Z

PainMan356: /* M1 Carbine */

'''We Were Soldiers''', is a film [http://www.amazon.com/Were-Soldiers-Widescreen-Mel-Gibson/dp/B000068TPN/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769367&sr=1-1] directed by Randall Wallace and starring [[Mel Gibson]], [[Barry Pepper]] and [[Sam Elliott]], based on the book ''We Were Soldiers Once...And Young'' by Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, US Army (ret) and former UPI reporter Joe Galloway [http://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Soldiers-Once-Young/dp/034547581X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769314&sr=1-1] (played by Gibson and Pepper respectively) about the first major battle between the American Army and the People's Army of Vietnam in the Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands of Vietnam. Gen. Moore, in documentary on the DVD, states that this film is the only one which gets "[the Vietnam war] right."

Although the battle would last more than 300 days, the movie covers only the initial engagement, the first time "[[Air Mobile Infantry]]"--called "the helicopter soldiers" by a Vietnamese officer--was used in combat. Over 3 days, Moore's regiment kill over 1800 enemy soldiers out of 4,000, for the loss of 72 out of his of 395 men. The utterly lop-sided casualty figures helped to convince Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and Vietnam theater commander Gen. William Westmoreland that the communist north Vietnamese could be persuaded to give up their attempt to conquer the south using attrition tactics. Events, of course, would prove this strategy disastrous.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([[Robert Bagnell]]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. "I will be the first to set foot on the field."]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy, before being cut off and surrounded early in the battle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette ([[Josh Daugherty]]) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"No one's a non-combatant today." UPI reporter Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]), co-author of the book which the movie is based on, is forced to defend himself; his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. According to director Randall Wallace's DVD commentary, the final bayonet charge which ends the battle did not take place in the actual engagement.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"When I need an M-16, there'll be plenty of them [lying on the ground]." A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam, the formal title of South Vietnam) interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 brass casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail, however during the firing sequence, expended 'star crimped' brass unavoidably flies out of the machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner gets plastered against his helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the XM16E1 (which he calls a "Piece of Plastic"). It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War II and the Korean War, however they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to Defend Yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An production photo of Captain Nadal and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1953 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4s]] can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.the Vietnamese captured [[MAT-49]] from French forces in Indochina Conflict.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer uses an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) uses his siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army(Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
In one scene, a wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] aka "Willie Pete" at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga ]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

We Were Soldiers

2010-09-06T09:48:43Z

PainMan356:

'''We Were Soldiers''', is a film [http://www.amazon.com/Were-Soldiers-Widescreen-Mel-Gibson/dp/B000068TPN/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769367&sr=1-1] directed by Randall Wallace and starring [[Mel Gibson]], [[Barry Pepper]] and [[Sam Elliott]], based on the book ''We Were Soldiers Once...And Young'' by Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, US Army (ret) and former UPI reporter Joe Galloway [http://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Soldiers-Once-Young/dp/034547581X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283769314&sr=1-1] (played by Gibson and Pepper respectively) about the first major battle between the American Army and the People's Army of Vietnam in the Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands of Vietnam. Gen. Moore, in documentary on the DVD, states that this film is the only one which gets "[the Vietnam war] right."

Although the battle would last more than 300 days, the movie covers only the initial engagement, the first time "[[Air Mobile Infantry]]"--called "the helicopter soldiers" by a Vietnamese officer--was used in combat. Over 3 days, Moore's regiment kill over 1800 enemy soldiers out of 4,000, for the loss of 72 out of his of 395 men. The utterly lop-sided casualty figures helped to convince Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and Vietnam theater commander Gen. William Westmoreland that the communist north Vietnamese could be persuaded to give up their attempt to conquer the south using attrition tactics. Events, of course, would prove this strategy disastrous.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([[Robert Bagnell]]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. "I will be the first to set foot on the field."]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy, before being cut off and surrounded early in the battle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette ([[Josh Daugherty]]) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"No one's a non-combatant today." UPI reporter Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]), co-author of the book which the movie is based on, is forced to defend himself; his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. According to director Randall Wallace's DVD commentary, the final bayonet charge which ends the battle did not take place in the actual engagement.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"When I need an M-16, there'll be plenty of them [lying on the ground]." A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 brass casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail, however during the firing sequence, expended 'star crimped' brass unavoidably flies out of the machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner gets plastered against his helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the XM16E1 (which he calls a "Piece of Plastic"). It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War II and the Korean War, however they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to Defend Yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An production photo of Captain Nadal and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1953 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4s]] can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.the Vietnamese captured [[MAT-49]] from French forces in Indochina Conflict.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer uses an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) uses his siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army(Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
In one scene, a wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] aka "Willie Pete" at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga ]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

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[[Category:War]]

We Were Soldiers

2010-09-06T09:14:48Z

PainMan356: /* M16 Rifle */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([[Robert Bagnell]]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. "I will be the first to set foot on the field."]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy, before being cut off and surrounded early in the battle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette ([[Josh Daugherty]]) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"No one's a non-combatant today." UPI reporter Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]), co-author of the book which the movie is based on, is forced to defend himself; his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. According to director Randall Wallace's DVD commentary, the final bayonet charge which ends the battle did not take place in the actual engagement.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"When I need an M-16, there'll be plenty of them [lying on the ground]." A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 brass casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail, however during the firing sequence, expended 'star crimped' brass unavoidably flies out of the machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner gets plastered against his helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the XM16E1 (which he calls a "Piece of Plastic"). It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War II and the Korean War, however they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to Defend Yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An production photo of Captain Nadal and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1953 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4s]] can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.the Vietnamese captured [[MAT-49]] from French forces in Indochina Conflict.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer uses an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) uses his siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army(Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
In one scene, a wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] aka "Willie Pete" at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga ]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

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[[Category:War]]

We Were Soldiers

2010-09-06T09:12:48Z

PainMan356: /* XM16E1 Rifle */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([[Robert Bagnell]]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. "I will be the first to set foot on the field."]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy, before being cut off and surrounded early in the battle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette ([[Josh Daugherty]]) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"No one's a non-combatant today." UPI reporter Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]), co-author of the book which the movie is based on, is forced to defend himself; his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. According to director Randall Wallace's DVD commentary, the final bayonet charge which ends the battle did not take place in the actual engagement.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 brass casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail, however during the firing sequence, expended 'star crimped' brass unavoidably flies out of the machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner gets plastered against his helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the XM16E1 (which he calls a "Piece of Plastic"). It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War II and the Korean War, however they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to Defend Yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An production photo of Captain Nadal and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1953 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4s]] can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.the Vietnamese captured [[MAT-49]] from French forces in Indochina Conflict.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer uses an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) uses his siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army(Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer(Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
In one scene, a wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] aka "Willie Pete" at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga ]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

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[[Category:War]]

Blade Runner

2010-09-05T23:37:25Z

PainMan356: /* Fan Made Blasters */

[[Image:Blade Runner.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]

''Blade Runner'' is a 1982 science fiction film directed by Ridley Scott (''[[Alien]]'', ''[[Black Hawk Down]],'' ''[[Gladiator]],'' ''[[Kingdom of Heaven]]'' et al), written by Hampton Fancher and David Peoples and based on the Philip K. Dick novel ''Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?''. [[Harrison Ford]] plays Rick Deckard, a police officer who is a member of a special police squad called "Blade Runners", who is tasked with killing (euphemistically called "retirement") androids called "replicants"--called pejoratively "skinjobs"--who have been banned, upon pain of death, from ever returning to Earth.

Several production problems led to re-editing of the film and several narrative elements added without the consent of the director. The best known example of this is the narration track that the studio insisted be added to the theatrical release; the studio believed the audience would be lost without some kind of explanatory device. Neither Scott nor Ford wanted to add this to the film. Ford has been quoted as saying that he read the narration as "badly" as he could so that the studio wouldn't use it.

A box office disappointment upon its initial release, the film is now hailed as visionary and highly influential to film to this day (the remade [[Battlestar Galactica]] series openly acknowledged the influence of the film by calling the organic [[Cylon]]s "skinjobs" and modeling the Colonial service pistols after Deckard's service weapon, and even using the [[COP 357 Derringer]] one episode). After years of controversy, Scott released his final version of the film in 2007 as ''Blade Runner: The Final Cut'' in a 5-disc set that included the original theatrical release as well the three more versions of the film and the work print and a plethora of extras and commentaries [http://www.amazon.com/Runner-Five-Disc-Complete-Collectors-Blu-ray/dp/B000UBMWG4/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1283732893&sr=1-1].

'''The following firearms were used in the film ''Blade Runner'':'''
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==COP 357 Derringer==
In the opening scene, Leon ([[Brion James]]) is armed with a [[COP 357 Derringer|COP .357 four-barrel Derringer]]. The prop gun was modified to fire two barrels at a time to provide a more dramatic muzzle flash.
[[Image:N-copb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|COP 357 Derringer .357 Magnum]]

[[Image:21.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Leon ([[Brion James]]) fires his Derringer.]]

[[Image:Bladerunner-COP.jpg||thumb|600px|none|]]

==LAPD 2019 blaster==
Deckard is armed with an undesignated, unnamed blaster throughout the film. The prop was constructed from parts of a Steyr-Mannlicher Model SL (SL Images [http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=155140909#PIC 1] [http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=12358 2]) rifle and a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_Arms_Bulldog Charter Arms Bulldog] revolver. Side covers were added to cover the bulldog's cylinder, and different bolt heads and screw heads were used to offer an illusion of knobs and controls. The gun was also equipped with at least 6 LED lights, though not all of them worked throughout the production.

[[Image:HERO1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note the white electrical cord running from the "sight" which houses two green LED's.

[[Image:Hero2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:178.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard ([[Harrison Ford]]) draws his gun on a fleeing Zhora ([[Joanna Cassidy]]).]]

[[Image:177.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard fires his weapon on Zhora.]]

[[Image:181.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard uses two hands to fire his weapon.]]

[[Image:182.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard discharges his weapon on a replicant.]]

[[Image:1_blade_runner.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A promotional photo of Harrison Ford holding his futuristic handgun.]]

[[Image:BR_HD_gun1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Another promotional photo of the blaster.]]

Same gun appears in PC game Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 as one of rare items.

===Original Design===
The original design for the intended Rick Deckard blaster was done by production artists Syd Mead. It was a "black hole gun" and was to fire a black beam.

[[Image:Meadgun.jpg|400px|none||thumb|]]

This was ultimately rejected for unknown reasons, and then a modified COP was to be used until the director saw an exposed Steyr SL 223 action. The prop master then fit the bolt action rifle parts over, and under a charter arms bulldog revolver.

An odd looking weapon, and a prop with a mysterious origin It is said that Deckard was originally intended to have a small COP derringer based customized blaster, but when Ridley saw the Steyr SL chamber on the prop masters workbench, he insisted it be used as his heroes main sidearm.

[[Image:Deckgun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Deckshootsstreet.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note, the front Steyr magazine is fitted crooked. This may have been from on set abuse, as later pictures of the gun do not reflect this crooked nature.

[[Image:Deckridly.a.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

The firing "hero" was, for years, thought lost, or put in mothballs on the studio lot somewhere. Stunt castings of the weapon made the rounds, and some of them hang on the walls of Planet Hollywood and reside among cherished private collections.

Information:
http://props.steinschneider.com/blade_runner/bldrunbl.htm

The hero prop surfaced a few years ago, and was profusely photographed by Karl Tate.

http://karltate.wordpress.com/2006/08/31/props-of-blade-runner/

===Double Triggers===

[[Image:Deckholster.jpg|400px|none|thumb|]]

The double trigger nature of the weapon has fooled some into believing the gun had two barrels. In the Marvel comics adaptation of the film, we can even see some of the artists drawing the handgun with side by side barrels.

In reality, it was a feature carried over from the steyr design simply because director Ridley Scott liked the look.

[[Image:299.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Roy Batty ([[Rutger Hauer]]) grabs Deckard's hand that is holding the blaster.]]

===Stunt Castings===

[[Image:Museum_stunt.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Here is a picture of the stunt casting hanging in the Seattle Science Fiction Museum. It was coated with a glossy clear to keep the rubber from breaking down any further that it already had.

The stunt castings vary from the hero gun in many ways. They were cast before the LED's were placed into the magazine, and before the "pinky groove" was cut into the hero grip, which was done at Ford's request as the grip was just too small for his hand. Also, some castings have "hero grips" meaning they have orange amber grips, and some have black grips, which were used by the street cops, and background players in the police station scene.

[[Image:Pistol_11.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Stunt_blaster.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:297.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note the casting seam clearly visible along the top of the "hero" stunt gun.

[[Image:298.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Cops_SMALL.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:La_copsstanding.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:BR-Cop_rig.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:Stunt_pistol_3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:Stuntgun_BR_image.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Stunt castings, and resin castings of the stunt guns have made the rounds through the hands of fans and private collectors over the years.

[[Image:PDR_0020.JPG|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Fan Made Blasters===
The Blade Runner Blaster stands as one of the most sought after props in the history of cinema. Since the release of the film many fans, and some prop companies, have stepped up and created their own versions of the gun based on images from the film, and also working from stunt castings.

An incredible fan made version of the Syd Mead design:

[[Image:Meadblaster.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

'''THE PKD'''

[[image:Bladerunner-blaster.gif|400px|thumb|none|]] 
Plager Katsumate Series-D blaster replica

[[Image:Brpistl2.gif|thumb|400px|none|]]

The above is a fan made blaster sculpted by Rick Ross. Rick has has also created many variations on the the blasters theme, including "snubby" blasters, a "magnum" blaster, and an "assassin" model with optics and a supressor.

[[Image:MAG_SNUB_R2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

The gun in the film did not have any official name or designation, though fans of the film who seek to own a reproduction of this prop tend to call it a "PKD" coined by mister Ross in honor of Philip K. Dick.

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Ridley Scott]]

Blade Runner

2010-09-05T23:31:12Z

PainMan356:

[[Image:Blade Runner.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]

''Blade Runner'' is a 1982 science fiction film directed by Ridley Scott (''[[Alien]]'', ''[[Black Hawk Down]],'' ''[[Gladiator]],'' ''[[Kingdom of Heaven]]'' et al), written by Hampton Fancher and David Peoples and based on the Philip K. Dick novel ''Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?''. [[Harrison Ford]] plays Rick Deckard, a police officer who is a member of a special police squad called "Blade Runners", who is tasked with killing (euphemistically called "retirement") androids called "replicants"--called pejoratively "skinjobs"--who have been banned, upon pain of death, from ever returning to Earth.

Several production problems led to re-editing of the film and several narrative elements added without the consent of the director. The best known example of this is the narration track that the studio insisted be added to the theatrical release; the studio believed the audience would be lost without some kind of explanatory device. Neither Scott nor Ford wanted to add this to the film. Ford has been quoted as saying that he read the narration as "badly" as he could so that the studio wouldn't use it.

A box office disappointment upon its initial release, the film is now hailed as visionary and highly influential to film to this day (the remade [[Battlestar Galactica]] series openly acknowledged the influence of the film by calling the organic [[Cylon]]s "skinjobs" and modeling the Colonial service pistols after Deckard's service weapon, and even using the [[COP 357 Derringer]] one episode). After years of controversy, Scott released his final version of the film in 2007 as ''Blade Runner: The Final Cut'' in a 5-disc set that included the original theatrical release as well the three more versions of the film and the work print and a plethora of extras and commentaries [http://www.amazon.com/Runner-Five-Disc-Complete-Collectors-Blu-ray/dp/B000UBMWG4/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1283732893&sr=1-1].

'''The following firearms were used in the film ''Blade Runner'':'''
__TOC__
 

==COP 357 Derringer==
In the opening scene, Leon ([[Brion James]]) is armed with a [[COP 357 Derringer|COP .357 four-barrel Derringer]]. The prop gun was modified to fire two barrels at a time to provide a more dramatic muzzle flash.
[[Image:N-copb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|COP 357 Derringer .357 Magnum]]

[[Image:21.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Leon ([[Brion James]]) fires his Derringer.]]

[[Image:Bladerunner-COP.jpg||thumb|600px|none|]]

==LAPD 2019 blaster==
Deckard is armed with an undesignated, unnamed blaster throughout the film. The prop was constructed from parts of a Steyr-Mannlicher Model SL (SL Images [http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=155140909#PIC 1] [http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=12358 2]) rifle and a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_Arms_Bulldog Charter Arms Bulldog] revolver. Side covers were added to cover the bulldog's cylinder, and different bolt heads and screw heads were used to offer an illusion of knobs and controls. The gun was also equipped with at least 6 LED lights, though not all of them worked throughout the production.

[[Image:HERO1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note the white electrical cord running from the "sight" which houses two green LED's.

[[Image:Hero2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:178.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard ([[Harrison Ford]]) draws his gun on a fleeing Zhora ([[Joanna Cassidy]]).]]

[[Image:177.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard fires his weapon on Zhora.]]

[[Image:181.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard uses two hands to fire his weapon.]]

[[Image:182.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard discharges his weapon on a replicant.]]

[[Image:1_blade_runner.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A promotional photo of Harrison Ford holding his futuristic handgun.]]

[[Image:BR_HD_gun1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Another promotional photo of the blaster.]]

Same gun appears in PC game Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 as one of rare items.

===Original Design===
The original design for the intended Rick Deckard blaster was done by production artists Syd Mead. It was a "black hole gun" and was to fire a black beam.

[[Image:Meadgun.jpg|400px|none||thumb|]]

This was ultimately rejected for unknown reasons, and then a modified COP was to be used until the director saw an exposed Steyr SL 223 action. The prop master then fit the bolt action rifle parts over, and under a charter arms bulldog revolver.

An odd looking weapon, and a prop with a mysterious origin It is said that Deckard was originally intended to have a small COP derringer based customized blaster, but when Ridley saw the Steyr SL chamber on the prop masters workbench, he insisted it be used as his heroes main sidearm.

[[Image:Deckgun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Deckshootsstreet.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note, the front Steyr magazine is fitted crooked. This may have been from on set abuse, as later pictures of the gun do not reflect this crooked nature.

[[Image:Deckridly.a.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

The firing "hero" was, for years, thought lost, or put in mothballs on the studio lot somewhere. Stunt castings of the weapon made the rounds, and some of them hang on the walls of Planet Hollywood and reside among cherished private collections.

Information:
http://props.steinschneider.com/blade_runner/bldrunbl.htm

The hero prop surfaced a few years ago, and was profusely photographed by Karl Tate.

http://karltate.wordpress.com/2006/08/31/props-of-blade-runner/

===Double Triggers===

[[Image:Deckholster.jpg|400px|none|thumb|]]

The double trigger nature of the weapon has fooled some into believing the gun had two barrels. In the Marvel comics adaptation of the film, we can even see some of the artists drawing the handgun with side by side barrels.

In reality, it was a feature carried over from the steyr design simply because director Ridley Scott liked the look.

[[Image:299.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Roy Batty ([[Rutger Hauer]]) grabs Deckard's hand that is holding the blaster.]]

===Stunt Castings===

[[Image:Museum_stunt.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Here is a picture of the stunt casting hanging in the Seattle Science Fiction Museum. It was coated with a glossy clear to keep the rubber from breaking down any further that it already had.

The stunt castings vary from the hero gun in many ways. They were cast before the LED's were placed into the magazine, and before the "pinky groove" was cut into the hero grip, which was done at Ford's request as the grip was just too small for his hand. Also, some castings have "hero grips" meaning they have orange amber grips, and some have black grips, which were used by the street cops, and background players in the police station scene.

[[Image:Pistol_11.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Stunt_blaster.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:297.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note the casting seam clearly visible along the top of the "hero" stunt gun.

[[Image:298.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Cops_SMALL.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:La_copsstanding.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:BR-Cop_rig.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:Stunt_pistol_3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:Stuntgun_BR_image.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Stunt castings, and resin castings of the stunt guns have made the rounds through the hands of fans and private collectors over the years.

[[Image:PDR_0020.JPG|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Fan Made Blasters===
The Blade Runner Blaster stands as one of the most sought after props in the history of cinema. Since the release of the film many fans, and some prop companies, have stepped up and created their own versions of the gun based on images from the film, and also working from stunt castings.

An incredible fan made version of the Syd Mead design:

[[Image:Meadblaster.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

'''THE PKD'''

[[image:Bladerunner-blaster.gif|400px|thumb|none|]] 
Plager Katsumate Series-D blaster replica

[[Image:Brpistl2.gif|thumb|400px|none|]]

The above is a fan made blaster sculpted by Rick Ross. Rick has has also created many variations on the the blasters theme, including snubby blasters, a magnum blaster, and an assassin model with optics and a supressor.

[[Image:MAG_SNUB_R2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

The gun in the film did not have any official name or designation, though fans of the film who seek to own a reproduction of this prop tend to call it a "PKD" coined by mister Ross in honor of Philip K. Dick.

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Ridley Scott]]

Blade Runner

2010-09-05T23:09:36Z

PainMan356:

[[Image:Blade Runner.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]

''Blade Runner'' is a 1982 science fiction film directed by Ridley Scott (''[[Alien]]'', ''[[Black Hawk Down]],'' ''[[Gladiator]],'' ''[[Kingdom of Heaven]]'' et al), written by Hampton Fancher and David Peoples and based on the Philip K. Dick novel ''Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?''. [[Harrison Ford]] plays Rick Deckard, who is known as a "Blade Runner", a special division police officer whose job is to hunt down and kill humanoid robots or "replicants" in 2019 Los Angeles. Several production problems led to re-editing of the film and several narrative elements added without the consent of the director. A box office disappointment upon its initial release, the film is now hailed as visionary and highly influential to film to this day. After years of controversy, Ridley Scott released his final version of the film in 2007 as "Blade Runner: The Final Cut".

'''The following firearms were used in the film ''Blade Runner'':'''
__TOC__
 

==COP 357 Derringer==
In the opening scene, Leon ([[Brion James]]) is armed with a [[COP 357 Derringer|COP .357 four-barrel Derringer]]. The prop gun was modified to fire two barrels at a time to provide a more dramatic muzzle flash.
[[Image:N-copb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|COP 357 Derringer .357 Magnum]]

[[Image:21.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Leon ([[Brion James]]) fires his Derringer.]]

[[Image:Bladerunner-COP.jpg||thumb|600px|none|]]

==LAPD 2019 blaster==
Deckard is armed with an undesignated, unnamed blaster throughout the film. The prop was constructed from parts of a Steyr-Mannlicher Model SL (SL Images [http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=155140909#PIC 1] [http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=12358 2]) rifle and a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_Arms_Bulldog Charter Arms Bulldog] revolver. Side covers were added to cover the bulldog's cylinder, and different bolt heads and screw heads were used to offer an illusion of knobs and controls. The gun was also equipped with at least 6 LED lights, though not all of them worked throughout the production.

[[Image:HERO1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note the white electrical cord running from the "sight" which houses two green LED's.

[[Image:Hero2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:178.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard ([[Harrison Ford]]) draws his gun on a fleeing Zhora ([[Joanna Cassidy]]).]]

[[Image:177.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard fires his weapon on Zhora.]]

[[Image:181.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard uses two hands to fire his weapon.]]

[[Image:182.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Deckard discharges his weapon on a replicant.]]

[[Image:1_blade_runner.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A promotional photo of Harrison Ford holding his futuristic handgun.]]

[[Image:BR_HD_gun1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Another promotional photo of the blaster.]]

Same gun appears in PC game Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 as one of rare items.

===Original Design===
The original design for the intended Rick Deckard blaster was done by production artists Syd Mead. It was a "black hole gun" and was to fire a black beam.

[[Image:Meadgun.jpg|400px|none||thumb|]]

This was ultimately rejected for unknown reasons, and then a modified COP was to be used until the director saw an exposed Steyr SL 223 action. The prop master then fit the bolt action rifle parts over, and under a charter arms bulldog revolver.

An odd looking weapon, and a prop with a mysterious origin It is said that Deckard was originally intended to have a small COP derringer based customized blaster, but when Ridley saw the Steyr SL chamber on the prop masters workbench, he insisted it be used as his heroes main sidearm.

[[Image:Deckgun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Deckshootsstreet.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note, the front Steyr magazine is fitted crooked. This may have been from on set abuse, as later pictures of the gun do not reflect this crooked nature.

[[Image:Deckridly.a.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

The firing "hero" was, for years, thought lost, or put in mothballs on the studio lot somewhere. Stunt castings of the weapon made the rounds, and some of them hang on the walls of Planet Hollywood and reside among cherished private collections.

Information:
http://props.steinschneider.com/blade_runner/bldrunbl.htm

The hero prop surfaced a few years ago, and was profusely photographed by Karl Tate.

http://karltate.wordpress.com/2006/08/31/props-of-blade-runner/

===Double Triggers===

[[Image:Deckholster.jpg|400px|none|thumb|]]

The double trigger nature of the weapon has fooled some into believing the gun had two barrels. In the Marvel comics adaptation of the film, we can even see some of the artists drawing the handgun with side by side barrels.

In reality, it was a feature carried over from the steyr design simply because director Ridley Scott liked the look.

[[Image:299.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Roy Batty ([[Rutger Hauer]]) grabs Deckard's hand that is holding the blaster.]]

===Stunt Castings===

[[Image:Museum_stunt.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Here is a picture of the stunt casting hanging in the Seattle Science Fiction Museum. It was coated with a glossy clear to keep the rubber from breaking down any further that it already had.

The stunt castings vary from the hero gun in many ways. They were cast before the LED's were placed into the magazine, and before the "pinky groove" was cut into the hero grip, which was done at Ford's request as the grip was just too small for his hand. Also, some castings have "hero grips" meaning they have orange amber grips, and some have black grips, which were used by the street cops, and background players in the police station scene.

[[Image:Pistol_11.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Stunt_blaster.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:297.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Note the casting seam clearly visible along the top of the "hero" stunt gun.

[[Image:298.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:Cops_SMALL.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Image:La_copsstanding.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:BR-Cop_rig.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:Stunt_pistol_3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:Stuntgun_BR_image.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

Stunt castings, and resin castings of the stunt guns have made the rounds through the hands of fans and private collectors over the years.

[[Image:PDR_0020.JPG|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Fan Made Blasters===
The Blade Runner Blaster stands as one of the most sought after props in the history of cinema. Since the release of the film many fans, and some prop companies, have stepped up and created their own versions of the gun based on images from the film, and also working from stunt castings.

An incredible fan made version of the Syd Mead design:

[[Image:Meadblaster.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

'''THE PKD'''

[[image:Bladerunner-blaster.gif|400px|thumb|none|]] 
Plager Katsumate Series-D blaster replica

[[Image:Brpistl2.gif|thumb|400px|none|]]

The above is a fan made blaster sculpted by Rick Ross. Rick has has also created many variations on the the blasters theme, including snubby blasters, a magnum blaster, and an assassin model with optics and a supressor.

[[Image:MAG_SNUB_R2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

The gun in the film did not have any official name or designation, though fans of the film who seek to own a reproduction of this prop tend to call it a "PKD" coined by mister Ross in honor of Philip K. Dick.

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Ridley Scott]]

Star Trek: Voyager

2010-09-05T05:26:19Z

PainMan356: /* Beretta 92F */

{{incomplete}}
'''The following weapons can be seen in the television series ''Star Trek: Voyager'':'''
[[Image:VOYlogo.png|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'' (1995 - 2001)]]

__TOC__ 

= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militia members that take Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) kidnap in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols. They fire on the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft. In order to avoid bloodshed, the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]) enters the militia shelter as the latter try vainly to shoot him, unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to gunfire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militia member, Beretta 92F in hand, is stunned by the Doctor with a phaser.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

=Submachine Guns=
== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

=Rifles=
== Gewehr 98/40 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", German soldiers and Hirogen hunters can be seen carrying [[Gewehr 98/40]] rifles as their standard weapon (anachronistically standing in for the [[Karabiner 98k]]), one of which Katherine Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) comandeers when persuing a Hirogen after breaking free of the brainwashing imposed on her and the other members of the crew trapped in the holodeck.

[[Image:Gewehr9840.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Hungarian-made German Gewehr 98/40 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Hirogen hunter brandishes a Gewehr 98/40 while pursuing Katherine Janeway in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - karabiner982.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two holographic Wehrmacht soldiers fire Gewehr 98/40 in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand, while B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]} appears to have emptied her Colt .45 pistol; from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== Century Arms AK-47 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", Kradin soldiers can be seen carrying [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]]s dressed up to resemble alien weapons.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Century Arms AK-47 bullpup 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holds his [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]] on Chakotay.]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.
[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]

== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", members of the Vori army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon, Chakotay being given one when he joins them in their war against the Kradin, their sworn enemy. Some of these can also be seen fitted with tactical flashlights on the carry handle.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extremists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

[[Category:Television|Star Trek 4]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Star Trek]]

Star Trek: Voyager

2010-09-05T05:16:15Z

PainMan356: /* M1 Garand */

{{incomplete}}
'''The following weapons can be seen in the television series ''Star Trek: Voyager'':'''
[[Image:VOYlogo.png|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'' (1995 - 2001)]]

__TOC__ 

= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militant extremists that take Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) hostage in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols when engaging the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft, trying in vain to shoot the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]), unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to weapons fire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militant is downed by the Doctor, Beretta 92F in hand.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

=Submachine Guns=
== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

=Rifles=
== Gewehr 98/40 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", German soldiers and Hirogen hunters can be seen carrying [[Gewehr 98/40]] rifles as their standard weapon (anachronistically standing in for the [[Karabiner 98k]]), one of which Katherine Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) comandeers when persuing a Hirogen after breaking free of the brainwashing imposed on her and the other members of the crew trapped in the holodeck.

[[Image:Gewehr9840.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Hungarian-made German Gewehr 98/40 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Hirogen hunter brandishes a Gewehr 98/40 while pursuing Katherine Janeway in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - karabiner982.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two holographic Wehrmacht soldiers fire Gewehr 98/40 in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand, while B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]} appears to have emptied her Colt .45 pistol; from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== Century Arms AK-47 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", Kradin soldiers can be seen carrying [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]]s dressed up to resemble alien weapons.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Century Arms AK-47 bullpup 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holds his [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]] on Chakotay.]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.
[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]

== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", members of the Vori army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon, Chakotay being given one when he joins them in their war against the Kradin, their sworn enemy. Some of these can also be seen fitted with tactical flashlights on the carry handle.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extremists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

[[Category:Television|Star Trek 4]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Star Trek]]

Star Trek: Voyager

2010-09-05T05:09:32Z

PainMan356:

{{incomplete}}
'''The following weapons can be seen in the television series ''Star Trek: Voyager'':'''
[[Image:VOYlogo.png|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'' (1995 - 2001)]]

__TOC__ 

= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militant extremists that take Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) hostage in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols when engaging the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft, trying in vain to shoot the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]), unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to weapons fire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militant is downed by the Doctor, Beretta 92F in hand.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

= Rifles =

== Century Arms AK-47 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", Kradin soldiers can be seen carrying [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]]s dressed up to resemble alien weapons.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Century Arms AK-47 bullpup 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holds his [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]] on Chakotay.]]

== Gewehr 98/40 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", German soldiers and Hirogen hunters can be seen carrying [[Gewehr 98/40]] rifles as their standard weapon (anachronistically standing in for the [[Karabiner 98k]]), one of which Katherine Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) comandeers when persuing a Hirogen after breaking free of the brainwashing imposed on her and the other members of the crew trapped in the holodeck.

[[Image:Gewehr9840.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Hungarian-made German Gewehr 98/40 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Hirogen hunter brandishes a Gewehr 98/40 while pursuing Katherine Janeway in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - karabiner982.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two holographic Wehrmacht soldiers fire Gewehr 98/40 in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.

:They're not seen very clearly, but the rear sights don't appear to be A2 style. If I had to guess, I'm betting they're more likely to be AR15 Sporters. We have a picture of one that appears on the ''[[The X-Files|X-Files]]'' page.

[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]

== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", members of the Vori army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon, Chakotay being given one when he joins them in their war against the Kradin, their sworn enemy. Some of these can also be seen fitted with tactical flashlights on the carry handle.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extremists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

[[Category:Television|Star Trek 4]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Star Trek]]

Star Trek: Voyager

2010-09-05T05:04:57Z

PainMan356: /* Rifles */

{{incomplete}}
'''The following weapons can be seen in the television series ''Star Trek: Voyager'':'''
[[Image:VOYlogo.png|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'' (1995 - 2001)]]

__TOC__ 

= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militant extremists that take Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) hostage in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols when engaging the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft, trying in vain to shoot the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]), unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to weapons fire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militant is downed by the Doctor, Beretta 92F in hand.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

= Rifles =

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.

:They're not seen very clearly, but the rear sights don't appear to be A2 style. If I had to guess, I'm betting they're more likely to be AR15 Sporters. We have a picture of one that appears on the ''[[The X-Files|X-Files]]'' page.

[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]

=="Nemesis" (Season 4, Episode 4)==

=== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ===

In the episode "Nemesis", (Season 4, Episode 4<ref>Imdb.com page for episode [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708935/]</ref>), Chakotay's is shot down and he is captured by an alien race locked in a vicious war with another species, the Kraden. He's subjected to intense brainwashing and training using the the weapons and tactics of the Vori, in order to turn him into one of their warriors.

Vori soldiers army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon; some of these can also be seen fitted with tactical flashlights on the carry handle. Chakotay is given one when he joins what he believes to be a group of Vori, when its "leader" promises to lead him to one of their bases so he can contact ''Voyager''.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

===Century Arms AK-47 Bullpup===

The Kradin soldiers, on the other hand, are seen carrying [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]]s.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Century Arms AK-47 bullpup 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holding his [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]]on Chakotay.]]

Despite both weapons being capable of full-auto fire, they are only used in semi-auto mode throughout the episode (perhaps for insurance/cost reasons?).

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extremists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

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'''The following weapons can be seen in the television series ''Star Trek: Voyager'':'''
[[Image:VOYlogo.png|thumb|right|300px|''Star Trek: Voyager'' (1995 - 2001)]]

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= Pistols =

== Beretta 92F ==

In the episode "Future's End", several of the militant extremists that take Chakotay ([[Robert Beltran]]) and B'Elanna Torres ([[Roxann Dawson]]) hostage in the 20th century can be seen using [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] pistols when engaging the Federal agents and ''Voyager'''s crew who come after the two and their crashed shuttlecraft, trying in vain to shoot the Doctor ([[Robert Picardo]]), unaware he's a hologram and thus impervious to weapons fire.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A militant is downed by the Doctor, Beretta 92F in hand.]]

== Calico M950 ==
The power plant guards in the episode "Time And Again" are seen wielding [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950/950A|Calico M950]] pistols with the muzzle brakes removed, the Calicos standing in for alien weapons.

[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Calico M950 semiautomatic pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Calico.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the power plant guards in "Time And Again" firing his [[Calico#Calico M950.2F950A|M950]] into the air to disperse protesters.]]

== Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion ==

In the episode "The Q and the Grey", the infamous Q ([[John de Lancie]]) brings Capt. Janeway to the Continuum to show her a civil war that was happening. Obviously the Continuum exists on a plane of being that is beyond mortal comprehension, so it was displayed for us in the context of the American Civil War, weapons and all. In this perception, Q appears to be using a [[Colt 1860 Army#Colt 1860 (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion]] revolver, but in reality, it was a weapon beyond our imagination. A "Q" Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) also used one as well as Commander Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]).

:The first one is too hard to see but the second gun doesn't have an R-M conversion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army Richards-Mason Conversion .44 caliber]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) fires a Q weapon made to look like a Civil War-era revolver.]]
[[Image:stv1860RMC2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Q Colonel ([[Harve Presnell]]) fires another revolver]]

== Detonics Pocket 9 ==

In the episode "Time And Again", some of the saboteurs can be seen armed with [[Detonics Pocket 9]] pistols, standing in for alien weapons. They are most notably seen when the saboteurs engage plant guards in a shootout at the main gate.

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Detonic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the saboteurs in "Time And Again" firing his [[Detonics Pocket 9]] at power plant guards.]]

== M1911A1 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers as well as members of the crew playing members of the French resistance and U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistols]]. In one scene, a brainwashed Tom Paris pulls his M1911A1 on Harry Kim ([[Garret Wang]]) when he encounters him outside the holodeck, mistaking him for a Japanese soldier. It's only through some careful negotiating on Harry's part that Tom is convinced that the Ensign is not a threat and holsters his weapon, claiming that if Harry had given any other answer to the question Tom asked him, he would have shot him.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:STV 207.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kathryn Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) puts down her M1911A1 in Season 4's "The Killing Game, Part II".]]
[[Image:VoyagerParisM1911A1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) holds his M1911A1 on Harry Kim while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army officer.]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|B'Elanna Torres aims an M1911A1]]

== Walther P38 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game, Part II", several Hirogen hunters playing the part of German officers and several holographic German soldiers can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]]s as their sidearms, the Hirogen using them to shoot Neelix ([[Ethan Phillips]]) and Seven of Nine as they're trying to flee from them while brainwashed into playing French resistance fighters.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]
[[Image:STV 209.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A holographic German officer brandishes a Walther P38.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - Luger 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hirogen´s Second In Commands P38 locks empty in Season 4´s "The Killing Game Part 2".]]

== Kimel AP-9 ==

[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol 9x19mm]]

= Rifles =

== Century Arms AK-47 Bullpup ==

In the episode "Nemesis", Kradin soldiers can be seen carrying [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]]s dressed up to resemble alien weapons.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Century Arms AK-47 bullpup 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holds his [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]] on Chakotay.]]

== Gewehr 98/40 ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", German soldiers and Hirogen hunters can be seen carrying [[Gewehr 98/40]] rifles as their standard weapon (anachronistically standing in for the [[Karabiner 98k]]), one of which Katherine Janeway ([[Kate Mulgrew]]) comandeers when persuing a Hirogen after breaking free of the brainwashing imposed on her and the other members of the crew trapped in the holodeck.

[[Image:Gewehr9840.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Hungarian-made German Gewehr 98/40 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Hirogen hunter brandishes a Gewehr 98/40 while pursuing Katherine Janeway in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - karabiner982.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two holographic Wehrmacht soldiers fire Gewehr 98/40 in "The Killing Game, Part II."]]

== M1 Garand ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", members of Voyager's crew and holograms playing the role of U.S. Army soldiers can be seen armed with [[M1 Garand]] rifles, as well as B'Elanna Torres, whom is playing the role of a member of the French resistance when Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) encounters her in a bar where she'd been hiding during the fighting between the allies and the Nazis in the town. Tuvok ([[Tim Russ]]) can also be seen holding a Garand when questioning Janeway's change in attitude towards Seven of Nine ([[Jeri Ryan]]), claiming that she was ready to "put a bullet in her head" earlier.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1 Garand .30-06]]
[[Image:STV 210.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "The Killing Game, Part II", Chakotay wielding an M1 Garand while brainwashed into playing a U.S. Army Captain.]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]
[[Image:STV 204.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Tom Paris ([[Robert Duncan McNeill]]) (right) fires a M1 Garand from the front window of the restaurant in "The Killing Game, Part 2".]]

== M1928A1 Thompson ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", Tuvok can be seen using an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] while engaging the Germans in the battle for the town while brainwashed into playing the role of a French resistance fighter, using it to take out a German searchlight.

[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]

== M16A2 Rifle ==

In the episode "Future's End", the militant extremists can be seen arming themselves with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2 rifles]] when preparing to engage the Federal agents approaching their hideout.

:They're not seen very clearly, but the rear sights don't appear to be A2 style. If I had to guess, I'm betting they're more likely to be AR15 Sporters. We have a picture of one that appears on the ''[[The X-Files|X-Files]]'' page.

[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt AR15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]

=="Nemesis" (Season 4, Episode 4)==

=== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup ===

In the episode "Nemesis", (Season 4, Episode 4<ref>Imdb.com page for episode [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708935/]</ref>), Chakotay's is shot down and he is captured by an alien race locked in a vicious war with another species, the Kraden. He's subjected to intense brainwashing and training using the the weapons and tactics of the Vori, in order to turn him into one of their warriors.

Vori soldiers army can be seen carrying [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]]s as their main weapon; some of these can also be seen fitted with tactical flashlights on the carry handle. Chakotay is given one when he joins what he believes to be a group of Vori, when its "leader" promises to lead him to one of their bases so he can contact ''Voyager''.

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup .223 Remington]]
[[Image:ST-VOY Nemesis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chakotay (left) holding a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup while fighting with the Vori]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brone ([[Michael Mahonen]]) looks through the sights of his MZ14 Bullbup. ]]

===Century Arms AK-47 Bullpup===

The Kradin soldiers, on the other hand, are seen carrying [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]]s.

[[Image:Pix545892796.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Century Arms AK-47 bullpup 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - AKBull3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Kradin soldier holding his [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]]on Chakotay.]]

Despite both weapons being capable of full-auto fire, they are only used in semi-auto mode throughout the episode (perhaps for insurance/cost reasons?).

==Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"==
The [[Springfield 1873 "Trapdoor"]] is seen in use by the "Union" Q soldiers as well as the "Confederacy" Q soldiers. The Voyager crew also took them up. Realistic storywise, they just appeared to be Earth weapons, but in reality are not.

[[Image:UmbertiTrapdoorFullSize.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:STspring1861model3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

In the episode "Future's End", the assumed leader of the militant extremists carries a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun as his weapon of choice, holding Chakotay and B'Elanna at gunpoint with it and later firing on the Doctor with it, albeit to no effect as the hologram is unharmed, neutralizing all the extremists with 'surgically' accurate phaser fire.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-294293.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the militant extremists with a [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]].]]

= Miscellaneous =

== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==

In the episode "The Killing Game", several U.S. Army soldiers can be seen using [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s during the battle for the town, Seven of Nine altering one with Borg technology in an attempt to disable the holodeck simulation in which they're trapped, though the attempt backfires when the modified grenade takes out a sizeable portion of the allied forces, leaving them to be overrun by the Germans.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:Star Trek Voyager - M1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Garand rests next to a box full of Mk II fragmentation grenades in "The Killing Game, Part 2". The box disappears split-seconds later thanks to Sevens modified Mk II.]]

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