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Talk:Blood Alley

2015-04-02T23:30:19Z

ODnick717: /* Unidentified rifle, Identified */ new section

== Unidentified rifle, Identified ==

The unidendtified rifle is obviously a Mosin Nagant rifle. Looking at the rear sight, it is definitely a pre-Soviet model.

Talk:Kingsman: The Secret Service

2015-02-23T23:25:04Z

ODnick717: /* Discussion */

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Hello, Creating this page so hopefully someone can help me identify the firearms in this upcoming film. The trailer (link below) shows a number of firearms mounted on display and in use. The one gun that most intrigues me are the pistols that appear to be standard issue with "Kingsman", they appear to be Colt 1903/1908 hammerless? There are some Ar-15 type rifles visible, a subcompact glock in silouette and a sniper rifle too. I recall kick ass 2 had a page before the film came out identifying firearms in the trailer.

TRAILER ---> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4NCribDx4U]

--[[User:Tomnorthwales|Tomnorthwales]] ([[User talk:Tomnorthwales|talk]]) 09:36, 8 June 2014 (EDT)

Given the size, can theses be Tokarevs? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:29, 8 June 2014 (EDT)
:Actually, nevermind. I have no idea what these can be. I don't think they're Colts either. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:31, 8 June 2014 (EDT)
Those are Tokarevs. Custom grip panels and missing the hammer, but they are. [[User:Pepper|Pepper]] ([[User talk:Pepper|talk]]) 20:58, 9 July 2014 (EDT)

My first thought was Tokarevs as well due to the serrations. I was quite impressed they seemed to have filed away the hammers to make it appear hammerless and worked on the body to change it cosmetically. However Having seen the post below I agree that they are Colt Pocket Hammerless pistols, nice knowledge! - StaticHunter
Zooming the waistband image up shows that the right hand pistol has a slide stop and mag release button,which '03 Colts don't.Also the slide serrations seem to have been deeply milled away. They are way too big to be Colts,so I'm going with Tokarev,for now.Looks like the armourers and art directors have done their job:confuse the heck out of us.--[[User:Tecolote|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote|talk]]) 01:25, 13 February 2015 (EST)

Those guns confuse the hell out of me. Sure they do look like TTs, and early ones at that, but... that trigger. Various characters in the movie put their fingers behind the triggers, you can't do that with a TT. --[[User:Seriously Mike|Seriously Mike]] ([[User talk:Seriously Mike|talk]]) 05:27, 23 February 2015 (EST)

If you look closely, the pistols have two triggers. The more prominent one that we see would be for the underbarrel shotgun while the second one behind it (you can barely make it out but it's there) operates the pistol. Very classy looking pistols.--[[User:ODnick717|ODnick717]] ([[User talk:ODnick717|talk]]) 18:25, 23 February 2015 (EST)

==Kingsman Arsenal==
The sniper rifles in the center cabinet are (at least I am pretty sure they are) all Accuracy International products. The first and third rifles (in the center cabinet) are Accuracy International AX50 rifles in .50BMG and the second and fourth rifles are [[Accuracy International AX308]]s. I am going by the size of the mags as well as the muzzle brakes on both weapons as identifiers. In addition the rifles on the left both appear to be [[Heckler & Koch HK416|HK416]]s and the ones on the right also seem to be [[Bushmaster ACR]]s (again I believe so). --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 20:59, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

== New Poster ==
In a play on the Bond film [[For Your Eyes Only]] various characters (in this case [[Colin Firth]]) are seen standing between the legs of someone who appears to be holding a stand alone [[FN EGLM]]. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 05:56, 27 November 2014 (EST)
[[File:Kingsman Promo -1.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

==Merlin's HK==
It looked (and sounded, jeez) like a 417 to me; it also had aftermarket flip-up sights. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 03:38, 22 February 2015 (EST)
: 417? Odd. I was pretty certain that was a 416, as for the sound, foley artists usually spice up the gunshots in post so they sound more interesting (I've heard loads of different guns firing in movies and video games, reality got nothing on those ;) ). --[[User:Seriously Mike|Seriously Mike]] ([[User talk:Seriously Mike|talk]]) 05:27, 23 February 2015 (EST)

=WORK IN PROGRESS PAGE (keep all chat above here)=

[[Image:Kingsman-secret-service-poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Kingsman: The Secret Service'' (2014)]]

''''Kingsman: The Secret Service'''' is an upcoming British [[spy film]] from director [[Mathew Vaughan]]. The film is based on the comic book ''The Scret Service'' by Mark Millar and Dave Gibbons. It is the second original comic of Mark Millar that Matthew Vaughn has adapted to film, following on from [[Kick-Ass]]

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==Colt Pocket Hammerless==

Various members of Kingsman are seen using what appears to be a [[Colt Model 1903/1908]] Pocket Hammerless pistol.

[[Image:ColtM1903HammerlessWoodGrips.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt 1903 Hammerless with Colt Wood Grips - .32 ACP]]

[[Image:Kingsman-ColtHammerless.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt Model 1903/1908 Pocket Hammerless - unknown caliber, .32ACP or .380ACP, with what appears to be an under barrel torch and a small suppressor mounted on the wall above.]]

[[Image:ColtHammerlessWaistband.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Being withdrawn from the someone's rear waistband.]]

[[Image:Kingsman-ColtHammerlessAgent.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A female Kingsman agent is seen aiming a Colt Model 1903/1908 Pocket Hammerless]]

Talk:Wanted

2014-12-03T23:36:50Z

ODnick717: /* S&W Model 3, not Schofield */ new section

==Fox's car==

For those that want to know, the car that Fox uses during the big car chase at the beginning of the film is a Dodge Viper SRT-10 Coupe. The version seen in film is from the 2006 model year (noted as such because of the smaller hood vents), which has an 8.3 liter OHV V-10 engine with an output of about 510 hp.

Here's some images from the film:

[[Image:WantedViper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:WantedViper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:WantedViper-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:WantedViper-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:WantedViper-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Illinois plates?]]
[[Image:WantedViper-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|That's not Angelina Jolie!]]
[[Image:WantedViper-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:WantedViper-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Not the safest way to drive.]]
[[Image:WantedViper-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:WantedViper-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When the car lands this jump, it pretty much breaks in half, although it is somehow still drivable in the next scene.]]
[[Image:WantedViper-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:WantedViper-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When she pulls out, the rear bumper falls off.]]

==My Birthday==
This movie came out on my birthday. No big deal but I thought it was cool. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

I had one of my favorite shows come out on my birthday [[Justified]]-[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

==Spoilers==
Good thing I avoided looking at this page before I saw the film. There are WAY TO MANY spoilers on this page. Excellent work on the page but the descriptions don't have to reveal so much about the twists of the plot to explain the guns. I am making changes now that I have seen this film. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== "Brown Bess" ==

Yeah, as was suggested the "Brown Bess" isn't one at all, it's a German Schetzen rifle. They were pretty much all hand-made so it's impossible to identify it more than that. Unusual to see one with a flintlock though, they were almost always precussion or early breech loaders. That and their rarity / expense makes me guess it's probably a mock up.

== Anyone else notice... ==

wesley has a "meh" two handed grip (almost a cup and saucer) in the first pic of him training with the USP compact, then his left hand is a little higher, then finally on top of the train he has an excellent two handed grip. I can't remember what it is called when the hand is positioned like that. Also notice how on the ''website'' for the film they have no problem accurately naming the custom Safari arms matchmaster, but in the film the custom beretta 92fs is called an "inimashi 17". Is it possible "inimashi 17" is simply what Mr.X called his personal 92fs or maybe sloane? Maybe the fraternity specially modifies berettas or other weapons and inimashi 17 is their designation? the latter seems slightly more possible as special weapons such as flintlock weapons with magazines attached to them appear to be ''issued'' to certain members.
:A two layered hand grip is usually called the "weaver" technique, but if both arms are locked extended it's focus combat shooting style. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Screen Used Beretta ==

The propstore shows a screen used beretta similar to McAvoy main weapon. But this is not the same Beretta 92 of the popular scenes, it's a normal Beretta 92FS. Note the grips with the space for the old relase button system. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

[[Image:WANAvoy 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:WANAvoy 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:WANAvoy 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:WANAvoy 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
::Probably a secondary stand in weapon. It has the fingerstep triggerguard which the one in the movie does not. What sucks is that these get sold so fast to private collectors that I can't just fly out to London and photograph all of them before they disappear. I still think IMFDB's shots are better than theirs (but I can't say that lest I piss off their photographers ;) ) MPM2008

Does anyone know what type of compensator is used on the Beretta? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 02:48, 18 December 2011 (CST)

Does anyone know who the producers used to create the grips for the Beretta and the Safari Arms? --[[User:Ronin2296|Ronin2296]] 23:07, 23 November 2012 (EST)

== Fox's Jericho 941 ==

The Jericho in which Fox uses in the movie during the car chase does have a rail on the underside of the barrel.

==Why even have a custom gun?==
So Angelina is a South paw, which makes her characters left hand shooters as well. So, since this movie is all about these badass custom guns don't you think they could at least take 5 minutes out of production to add a ambi-saftey on that beautiful safari arms?--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 14:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Magial Browning Hi-Power ==

Wesley draws two Browning Hi-Power under the truck, and he runs with them when the rats explode, but after he jumps through the windows, they transform in two berettas.

== Side Loaders ==

I can not find anything like the side-loading pistols in this movie, are these even based off of legitamate pistols ot are they just complete fabrications

== Screen Used Flintlock Pistol ==

[[File:Wanted-2008-prop-weapons.jpg]]

This is the Flintlock Pistol seen on the table in the armory. I found this on yourprops.com.

== Compensator on Matchmaster ==

In the text box on one of the images of Fox's Safari Arms Matchmaster it describes her compensator being such that it would blind her in low light. Why would that compensator versus any other design blind in low light, and wouldn't almost any not reduced flash powder blind in low light? Sorry if this sounds like a simple question, just trying to understand? --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 09:08, 5 June 2012 (CDT)
:Compensators direct gas straight up to reduce recoil and allow for faster follow up shots. In normal light this is not a problem, but when it is dark the gas being directed straight up and the amount of flash the user views is greatly increased thus blinding them more than a non-compensated gun would, which directs the gas (and thus the flash) straight out of the end of the barrel. [[User:Dover500|Dover500]] 15:14, 5 June 2012 (CDT)
::Thanks for your response. I understand the function and operation of a compensator, what I am really questioning is whether this specific design of compensator would be any more blinding than any other? If not, isn't the text below the picture a little misleading? --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 18:19, 7 June 2012 (CDT)
:::It'd be more blinding because of the flash going up. If you were to be aiming down the sights and firing multiple times, you'd be staring directly at the flash. --[[User:Jazxsora|Jazxsora]] 18:15, 13 June 2012 (EST)

== S&W Model 3, not Schofield ==

Looking at the very last picture for this category, it shows that the revolver in question has the lockup similar to the original S&W Model 3 and not the Schofield. The Model 3 latch was connected to the top half of the revolver while the Schofield latch was connected to the fram itself. If you look closely at the picture showing the actor attempting to close the revolver, you see that the latch pivots off the topstrap like a Model 3 and not off the frame like the Schofield.--[[User:ODnick717|ODnick717]] ([[User talk:ODnick717|talk]]) 18:36, 3 December 2014 (EST)

Talk:The Walking Dead - Season 5

2014-12-03T18:41:35Z

ODnick717: /* WASR 10/63 */

== Scoped M16 ==
It's not a MK12, just an M16A4-type rifle modded with a collapsible stock and low profile gas block. The barrel is 20" as opposed to the 18" barrel on a MK12. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 09:10, 7 August 2014 (EDT)

== Rick's Type 56 ==
Polymer Fixed color is changed, it is dark brown because it comes on the scene and also a photo of the official website of The Walking Dead, Rick is with his Type 56 [https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/l/t1.0-9/10409396_1001718989854259_9172662295865104984_n.jpg]
[[Image:Norinco-Type56CustomTWDS5T.jpg|thumb||none|500px|'''Photoshopped''' Type 56 with Fixed Polymer Stock, grip pistol and Handguard as seen in The Walking Dead - Season 5 - 7.62x39mm]] - [[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 15:20, 12 August 2014 (VST)

== Long Pistol ==
I can't understand that the long pistol Rick use in the trailer. More like this is [[AMT Automag III]].
[[Image:AMTAutoMagIII.jpg|thumb|none|350px|AMT Automag III - .30 Carbine.]]
[[File:TWDLongPistol(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks more like a Heckler & Koch USP Tactical with one of those Osprey suppressors. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 06:20, 3 September 2014 (EDT)

::No, not a USP, the trigger guard is wrong. The front of it bends inward, like a Mark 23, rather than sloping back from the top down like on the majority of USPs. Overall shape and dimensions also look like a Mark 23 to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 05:51, 21 September 2014 (EDT)

:::Yeah, I think you're right.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 06:42, 21 September 2014 (EDT)

::::This is from the latest trailer, same pistol?[[File:Walking Dead S5 trailer 013.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]This one is definitely a Mark 23, you can tell by the raised base for the front and rear sight. Can't really see the suppressor particularly well as it is from above, but based on how slim it looks from this angle it could be one of those asymmetrical ones like the Osprey. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:22, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

[[File:TWDS5E02 85.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Suppressor in middle.]]

[[File:TWDS5PromoPosterHunt.jpg|thumb|600px|none| A production image of Rick holding his Python.]]

:::::I like how in the original comic Rick's starting weapon is a Mark 23, it's a nice little reference to the comics to have him using it in the last episode. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 07:05, 30 October 2014 (EDT)

==More examples in poor gun handling ==

It's always been noticeable in how a lot of the actors can't handle firearms. Yes, their characters most likely have no military or law enforcement background, but after awhile, you'd think they would learn how to hold a gun, but Rick is an exception since he's a cop. Just something about him holding the AK with the stock up high like that just bothers me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:08, 4 September 2014 (EDT)

I think that, in that scene at least, it can be put down to the fact that he quickly goes from taking the weapon to firing in a panic, not giving him a chance to correctly shoulder the rifle [[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 03:05, 23 October 2014 (GMT)

Frankly I am impressed with their weapons handling. Poor grip aside the actors all keep their fingers along the guard rather than on the trigger itself except when they are about to cap some rounds. Most other instances you see actors with their fingers on the trigger of a hot weapon. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 20:04, 30 October 2014 (EDT)

In most cases, the actors who do in fact keep their finger on the triggers are the ones playing people who had no gun experience before the apocalypse. It's not as prominent as it was earlier on the show, but it's still impressive the amount of trigger discipline we're seeing in the show. --[[User:Bauer2121|Bauer2121]] ([[User talk:Bauer2121|talk]]) 08:51, 25 November 2014 (EST)

==Sasha carry an M16 or M16A1 ?==

I think that Sasha carry Tony's M16 from last season. Tony carry the original M16. Rick buried the rifle in a bag with other claimers guns.
[[File:TWDS04E11 M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrel can say that this is the original [[M16]] seen in "Claimed" (S4E11).]]
[[User:FARID|FARID]] ([[User talk:FARID|talk]]) 10:56, 14 October 2014 (EDT)
:The flash hider is a very easily changeable part so should not be used as the sole identifier for what a weapon is. I can't make out from that cap whether Sasha's gun has the 3 prong flash hider or a birdcage, but if you look at the receiver you can see that it has a forward assist, so is therefore not an M16 (or in fact an SP1 which is what 99.9% of the "M16s" that appear actually are) but rather an M16A1. To be honest, there is not really enough of the gun seen in Season 4 to ID it as being an M16/SP1 as the right side of the upper is not shown in the caps, so it is possible that it is an M16A1 that has just had the flash hider changed. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:41, 14 October 2014 (EDT)
:I only IDed the rifle in S4 based on the flash hider because it was the only identifiable feature shown, so it's entirely possible Tony had an A1 with a 3-prong flash hider. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:22, 17 October 2014 (EDT)
::I've gone back and a flicked through to try and get a better look but I was not able to find a good look of the right side of the receiver. However, you can occasionally see that it has a screw head takedown pin which most likely means it is an SP1 (it could be a Sporter II but the SP1 is more common in films/TV). Just to point out, the 3 prong flash hider is incorrect for the SP1 as well, but they have quite often been modified to have them to make them look like more like original M16s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:42, 17 October 2014 (EDT)

== Bag of guns lie? ==

In the description it states that "Rick lied by telling him that in the bag was an "AK-47, .44 Magnum, Automatic weapons, Nightscore, compound bow and a machete with a red handle."" This isn't really a lie is it? Granted we did not see a machete or nightscope (which is what I'm assuming "Nightscore" is a typo of), but everything else was seen being put into the bag in the last episode of the last season. There are continuity errors, such as the M16 possibly changing to an M16A1 and the bow disappearing, but it I wouldn't call it a deliberate lie by Rick (if it was a lie, what was the point?). As for the machete with the red handle, I think they might have been talking about one of those orange handled Gerber "Bear Grylls" machetes that have been used by various characters. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:01, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

As it turned out Rick told the truth. He could call AKM places in the bag "AK-47". He also did not mention the Remington and Mosin Nagant M44 carbine. Part of the weapons like the SIG-Sauer P226, Heckler & Koch Mark 23, Daniel Defense DDM4 MK18 and a night vision scope did not have Claimers which Rick was killed. Maybe they found them in the gap between the first and second episode. --[[User:FARID|FARID]] ([[User talk:FARID|talk]]) 14:14, 08 November 2014 (EDT)

== Additional ==

[[Image:870s5wd2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On the left, Carl holds the Beretta.]]
[[Image:Glennm1911.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glenn appears to have a Colt MK IV Series 70 holstered.]]

== Please help ID ==

Please help ID Sasha's pistol. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 06:40, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
[[File:TWDS5E03 20.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
It looks like a SIG-Sauer P226 to me. --[[User:Gunfan2818|Gunfan2818]] ([[User talk:Gunfan2818|talk]]), 27 October 2014
[[File:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]]

== MK18 ==
Sasha carry Daniel Defense DDM4 MK18 with nightscope and fitted with an Osprey Suppressor ?

I'd agree with the rifle, but the suppressor looks too round to be an Osprey. There was only one Osprey found and it's attached to Ricks USP/Mark 23 [[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 19:27, 27 October 2014 (GMT)

Glenn find three suppressors, must be one of the other they stuck to the rifle.
[[User:FARID|FARID]] ([[User talk:FARID|talk]])
[[File:DDM4 MK18.jpg|thumb|none|401px|Daniel Defense DDM4 MK18 with Magpul MOE stock - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:TWDS05E03 MK18.jpg|thumb|none|601px|]]

:It is possible that it has DD parts, but it is not a factory rifle. If you look at the lower (it is clearer when it is resting on the pew behind Rick while he is talking) you can see that it has a lower where the front of the magazine well flares down to act as a grip. I know that [http://www.seekinsprecision.com/parts-and-accessories/ar-lowers/seekins-precision-sp223-gen2-billet-lower-logo-includes-ambi-bolt-stop-assy.html Seekings Precision] make lowers like this, but there might be other companies as well. My guess is that this rifle is a custom build. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:49, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

== Colt Python shot ==

Can anyone get a shot of Rick firing off a full cylinder from his Python when the group goes outside the church to retrieve Bob in "Four Walls and a Roof" (S5E03)?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11|talk]]) 23:26, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
Thanks, great work on the page everyone.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11|talk]]) 01:08, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

Rick made seven shots.--[[User:FARID|FARID]] ([[User talk:FARID|talk]]) 08:13, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

Well, that's tv and cinema for you. Just thought it was worth noting and having a screen cap of.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11|talk]]) 23:48, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

[[File:TWDRick.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also Rick only fires 6 shots in this scene, the first shot does not come from his weapon, it comes from off screen, Rick then proceeds to fire his full 6 rounds before falling back into the church with everyone else. [[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 20:52, 30 October 2014 (GMT)

== Scoped AR not an AR10SB ==
The AR platform used by Carol to assault Terminus is not an AR10. It can be clearly seen in multiple screenshots that it has a 30 round PMag in it. Also, it would appear the optic had been mounted backwards, a similar issue can be seen in season 3 with an Aimpoint sight on an AR15. Can anyone back me up with the AR10SB being incorrect or the scope being mounted backwards? [[User:DeadpoolDeadcool|DeadpoolDeadcool]] ([[User talk:DeadpoolDeadcool|talk]]) 20:19, 4 November 2014 (EST)

It's definitely not an AR-10. There's a similar mistaken labeling on the S4 page for a rifle used by one of the Governor's men as an AR-10, but is clearly a .223/5.56 caliber. I'm changing it back. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:29, 5 November 2014 (EST)

If we decide to leave it M16A4 then we need to move it into the category of Battle Rifles & Carbines. However, in the Season 5 Episod 1 Carol at one point opened Full-Auto firing rate (in films and television series often make such mistakes), but may have any other suggestions about this rifle? [[User:FARID|FARID]] ([[User talk:FARID|talk]]) 13:35, 7 November 2014 (EST)

It originally ''was'' in with the assault and battle rifles, but when whoever changed it to an AR-10, they presumably moved it to sniper rifles. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:38, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Glenn's rifle ==

Please help ID Glenn's rifle. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 13:24, 10 November 2014 (EST)
[[File:TWDS5E05 500.jpg |thumb|none|600px|"Self-Help" (S5E05).]]
[[File:TWDS5E05 509.jpg |thumb|none|600px|"Self-Help" (S5E05).]]

This is appears to be Daniel Defense DDM4 300 SBR. --[[User:FARID|FARID]] ([[User talk:FARID|talk]]) 13:50, 10 November 2014 (EST)
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]

I would never just run out and say that it's a DD in 300BLK. SBR - Yes. Black - Yes. Shoots bullets - Yes. Doesn't have to add up to the fact that it's a DD in 300. Most of the weapons have been Heintz 57's because of the armourers. Thing that throws me for a loop on these rifles is the break. Reminds me a lot of the PWS Diablo break. Being a mix-master, I think that best we could so is say that it's a MK 18 Mod 1 STYLED SBR. Calibre is most likely 5.56, but truly unknown.--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] ([[User talk:Gwhysow|talk]]) 16:41, 16 November 2014 (EST)

==Holstered Pistols==
Please help ID these holstered pistols. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 02:18, 11 November 2014 (EST)

Abrahams is a Beretta, closest I can tell it looks like a Cougar (judging from the lack of any sort of tail and the size of the safety catch). Maggies is a revolver, but without a better look at the body of it I can't tell what it is. [[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 11:53, 11 November 2014 (GMT)
:It's a normal 92FS, the grip spur is just caught under a fold on his shirt. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:10, 11 November 2014 (EST)
I'd agree on the 92FS factor, though the lack of detailing around the safety makes me think that this may be a rubber non-gun.
Maggie's revolver more likely the [[Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 38]]. [[Image:S&W Bodyguard38-1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 38 - .38 Special]] [[User:FARID|FARID]] ([[User talk:FARID|talk]]) 13:12, 14 November 2014 (EST)

Definitely not a SW Bodyguard. Not a J-frame. Smallest it's a K-frame, but I would argue and L-frame. Oddly enough, it does almost look like there is a hammer shroud.--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] ([[User talk:Gwhysow|talk]]) 16:50, 16 November 2014 (EST)
[[File:TWDS5E05 505.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Abraham's holstered pistol in "Self-Help" (S5E05).]]
[[File:TWDS5E05 508.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Maggie's pistol on the left in "Self-Help" (S5E05).]]
: There was a clear shot of it in the latest episode. It is a [[Smith & Wesson Model 327|Smith & Wesson Model 327 TRR8]]. This is very similar to the R8 on that page but there are some differences such as the slot on right side of the ejector shroud (on the R8 this is solid with M&P markings) and the profiling of the rail (the TRR8 rail is bolted on and detachable). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:37, 24 November 2014 (EST)

== Please help ID ==

Please help ID Maggie's revolver. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 18:53, 24 November 2014 (EST)
[[File:TWDS5E07 01.jpg|thumb|none|601px|holds the revolver in "Crossed" (S5E07).]]
[[File:TWDS5E07 03.jpg|thumb|none|601px|holds the revolver in "Crossed" (S5E07).]]

:Copied and pasted from the above topic:
::"''There was a clear shot of it in the latest episode. It is a [[Smith & Wesson Model 327|Smith & Wesson Model 327 TRR8]]. This is very similar to the R8 on that page but there are some differences such as the slot on right side of the ejector shroud (on the R8 this is solid with M&P markings) and the profiling of the rail (the TRR8 rail is bolted on and detachable)''"
:On seeing a still of it though, I think it might actually be an M&P R8. When I saw the episode live it looked like it had the slot for the ejector all the way through. but on that still what I thought was the slot is clearly above the axis of the cylinder so it appears to be a trick of the light. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:34, 24 November 2014 (EST)

Another thing from this ep, this picture below definitively proves that this rifle is not a DD one:[[File:TWDS5E07 13.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]if you look at the brass deflector you can see that it has an odd shape, extending back until it meets the front edge of the forward assist whereas the DD guns have a more traditional design. At the start of the episode you get a couple of shots of this part of Glen's rifle too and it has exactly the same design (you also get a shot of how the handguard attaches to the receiver and it doesn't look like a DD either). To me these look like [http://www.seekinsprecision.com/parts-and-accessories/ar-uppers/seekins-precision-223-upper.html Seekins Precision Billet uppers]], along with the matching [[http://www.seekinsprecision.com/parts-and-accessories/ar-lowers/seekins-precision-sp223-gen2-billet-lower-logo-includes-ambi-bolt-stop-assy.html Seekins Precision Gen2 lower] on Sasha's rifle. There do not appear to be any matching complete rifles on the Seeking site though, my guess is that they are just cobbled. I think we should probably just change the section title to "Custom AR-15" and do our best to ID the various parts. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:44, 24 November 2014 (EST)

== WASR 10/63 ==

Looking at the screenshots of Rosita carrying the "AKM", it appears that she is carrying the Romanian WASR 10/63 instead of a true AKM. If you look closely above the magazine where you would typically see either a lightening cut (for milled receivers) or a magazine well dimple (for stamped receivers, which the AKM is built on) you see a completely flat surface. I also noticed that the selector lever is either on safe or down to the semi-auto position and there doesn't seem to be a notch for full-auto which would be the setting between safe and semi; this indicates that it is a semi-auto only rifle. I've owned a WASR for about 2 years now and I can usually pick them out of a crowd of AKs.

UPDATE: Ok, glad someone made the edit, but the WASR is clearly chambered in 7.62x39 and not 5.45x39. The curvature of the magazine for the 7.62x39 is more pronounced (see the photos) than the one for 5.45x39. It's easy to miss, especially when the style of magazine are the same. A correction on my part; looking at the muzzle device, it looks like it is the earlier muzzle-nut rather than the slant-brake that would be on the later versions, making this a WASR-10. --[[User:ODnick717|ODnick717]] ([[User talk:ODnick717|talk]]) 13:41, 3 December 2014 (EST)

Talk:The Walking Dead - Season 5

2014-12-02T17:37:23Z

ODnick717: /* WASR 10/63 */ new section

Talk:Boardwalk Empire

2014-09-08T17:51:02Z

ODnick717: /* S&W Russian Model, not S&W Model 3 */ new section

You already have details of these weapons.

:What "No Effort" means is that you simply threw down a list weapons in a show and put ''no effort'' forth to making a decent article. What we mean by "details" is which character uses it, who plays that character, and in what context it is used. And when you don't even bother to link the weapon pages properly, add stock images, or add categories to a page, you shouldn't be surprised if it gets deleted.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 19:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

It's gone. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:53, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:Gone again, damn propmaster beat me to it.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
::Created twice with no effort. This guys tenacity is equaled only by his ineptitude.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:27, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
::::How dare you? I'm sure the guy who keeps trying to create "Everybody Hates Chris" is greatly insulted by that. (Unless it's the same guy, of course.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I think it is the same guy; the last time they made this page, the text (what little was there) was for ''Boardwalk Empire'', but the article itself was originally titled ''Everybody hates chris'' before it got moved.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 21:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Though I am sure I will regret it...I can try to cap this series as I have the whole thing with one small caveat. I am swamped with the silly season and all and I also have to cap Sons of Anarchy Season 3. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

== episode 12 ==

I think episode 12 had a bit where the KKK used a Browning M1917 on a black-run distillery. Also in the same episode and several minutes afterwards, there was a bit where "Chalky White" went badass on them with what appeared to be an Enfield M1917 or Springfield M1903

== tommy gun ==
Why hasn't there been a section for the thompson yet!!! It played a big part in the episode it was in.
:I have added a section for the Thompson, along with some reasonably detailed screen captures. [[User:Technician Fry|Technician Fry]] 00:28, 18 February 2012 (CST)

== S&W Russian Model, not S&W Model 3 ==

Was watching Season 3 last night and saw the episode where Richard Harrow is allegedly wielding the S&W Model 3 and noticed that he is holding the Russian Model. If you look at his middle finger on the pistol you can see that it is resting on the second trigger spur that the Russian model has; also look at the butt of the pistol, it has a lanyard ring. Although it is barely visible, you can also make out the frame spur behind the hammer that also indicates that this is the Russian Model and not the 3rd.

Talk:Cowboys & Aliens

2014-04-10T14:26:32Z

ODnick717: /* S&W Russian Model, not a Schofield */ new section

Anyone know what kind of lever gun Daniel Craig is using on the poster? Looks kinda like a Yellow Boy, but I can't be sure.

== Jake's pistol at the end (SPOILER) ==
It's a Talk Page, but I though I'd put spoiler anyway. When Jake and Ella go into the ship, they each have a revolver, and she gives hers to him after a bit. When he gets attacked by the alien he injured before, he loses both, and when he leaves he takes a rifle from the pile, and one revolver in his holster. For those who are better with this era of firearms than me, which revolver did he take out of the ship with him, his or hers? I'm just wondering, as I couldn't tell. I would've taken hers, something to remember her by ;) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 02:47, 27 December 2011 (CST)

== Unknown ==

At the end of the film, Ella gives Jake her revolver before she heads on into the alien spacecraft. He tucks it in his pants. In the caverns, she has a Remington 1858 New Army, but that does not appear to be the gun tucked in Jake's pants. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:43, 10 March 2013 (EDT)
[[Image: C&A_unknown_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ella's revolver tucked in Jake's pants.]]

== Doc's revolver ==

I only bring it up as there is discussion of the swapping back and forth of the Schofield on the main page, but I think that the holstered revolver used by Doc in this picture is a Colt 1860 Army:
[[File:C&A Schofield 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
First of it isn't a Schofield based on the hammer being too far back. Also, there is a cut-out on the right side of the recoil shield such as for a loading gate or to put percussion caps onto the nipples. As there is no obvious loading gate on the part that is shown that rules out the SAA or a cartridge conversion, along with the fact that there is a large frame screw at the bottom with a smaller pin behind and above it which matches the Colt 1860 but not the SAA or Remington 1858 New Army (the cut-out in the recoil shield is also too large for the Rem). You do not see the whole gun so can't tell for sure, but comparing to the other guns that appear in the film I would go with it being a stock Colt 1860. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:10, 10 March 2013 (EDT)
:I'm a little confused here, so you're saying that Bronc (the guy who's not Sam Rockwell) is NOT holding a Schofield? And you're saying that Sam Rockwell is using a Colt 1860? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:47, 10 March 2013 (EDT)
::No, I'm only talking about Doc's holstered revolver here. I don't know what revolver Doc uses at other times but in the shot above I think it is a Colt 1860. The only reason I mentioned the Schofield is that as the caption currently stands it implies it is undetermined whether Doc's holstered revolver is a Schofield, which it definitely isn't. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:56, 10 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Oh, I'll clear that up then. First Bronc had the Schofield, then Doc took it away from him when the tables turned. When they teamed up, it looks like Doc gave it back to him. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:58, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

== S&W Russian Model, not a Schofield ==

Actually the "Schofield" depicted is not a Schofield at all. This is a S&W Russian Model. It is very similar to the Schofield in that it is based off the S&W Model 3. If you look closely at the first picture you can see what looks like a lanyard ring on the bottom of the grip, the Schofield was never equipped with a lanyard ring. Also, looking at the first and second picture just below the trigger guard you can see an extra spur that all Russian models have; in the second picture you can see where Doc is actually holding the spur with his middle finger. Back to the first picture, right behind the hammer you can see that frame spurs out and the grip has a much thinner profile than a Schofield would. A real Schofield frame had a uninterrupted curved backstrap, but the one depicted curves to the grip and then drops off. Finally, the barrel locking mechanism is not the modified lockup developed for the Schofield; this is the same locking mechanism from the original Model 3 that was carried over to the Russian Model.
[[File:C&A Schofield 01.jpg]]
[[File:C&A Schofield 02.jpg]]