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Talk:Beretta 92 pistol series

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==Correction==
The Boondock Saints characters David Della Rocco and the McManus brothers were incorrectly listed as users of the Beretta 92FS. In the movie, the actual pistols used were the Taurus PT92 with optional suppressors. The Taurus markings are visible in the Carlo Yakavetta execution scene at the end of the movie and was also confirmed by the armorer for the movie and director Troy Duffy.
:Well your correction was wrong. Have you even looked at the page? Here is a screencap. That's definitely a Beretta, it sometimes switches to a PT92 in certain scenes. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:BSBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be."]]

==Curious Question==
The Beretta Centurion, is it simply a 92FS with a shortened barrel? Or is there something else I'm missing?

It's essentially got the Compact's barrel and slide, the normal sized frame, and a slightly shorter dust cover that doesn't really fit into either other category. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 10:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

==Just a reminder==

When you talk about the Beretta 92F or 92FS, it is not spelled "M92F" (as this page is titled), "M92FS", or even "92 FS" with a space in between the "92" and "FS". It's just Beretta 92F or Beretta 92FS, exactly as I have just spelled it. If you see a page with the older (mis)spelling, please do not hesitate to correct it.

And considering that this page has grown to include all of the 92 variants (including the SB, Brigadier, Centurion, etc.), it might be time to rename it. I would recommend re-titling the page "Beretta 92-series pistols". Anyone else agree? [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==...==

Why not have more info on the 93R? Give it its own page?

I propose the following info 9 (and an image if possible; how do I place/upload images here anyway?)

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The '''[[Beretta 93R]]''' (full name: '''Beretta Model 93R''') is a selective-fire [[9mm]] machine pistol. The "R" stands for "Raffica" which means burst in Italian. It was designed in the 70s and meant for police and military use, offering extra firepower in a small package. It is perfect for concealed carry purposes such as VIP protection, or for close quarters fighting such as room-to-room searches.

A selector switch and the foldable foregrip allows the pistol to fire three round bursts with each pull of the trigger for a potential cyclic rate of 1100 rpm. The designers limited it to three round bursts to allow it to be more easily controlled. The 93R is basically a Beretta 92 series pistol (the Beretta [[92FS]] is designated '''"[[M9 Pistol]] M9"''' by the US military, and is the standard issue pistol for the US military). But the 93R is single action and outfitted with a muzzle brake, an optional detachable shoulder stock and a 20-round magazine that also allowed for a firmer grip. It is currently out of production.

The gun has been used in several movies:

* [[Face/Off]] a 1997 action movie starring John Travolta and Nicolas Cage and directed by John Woo.

* [[Equilibrium]] a 2002 action/science fiction film written and directed by Kurt Wimmer with Christian Bale, Taye Diggs, Christian Kahrmann, Emily Watson and Sean Bean.

==Title change==
I hope no one minds that I changed the page name, "pistol series" matches more of the titles on other pages and is easier to remember than "Series Pistols". Agreed? -GM

==Why separate INOX?==
I was just wondering if there were any technical differences between the 92FS and the INOX, other than the slide being stainless.

:Good question. Only because there are so many movies featuring the 92F Inox that if we didn't separate it from the regular 92F, we'd have to put notes about "Inox finish" in parentheses near each. Whereas most of the other Berettas with Inox finishes don't appear in nearly as many movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

What happened to the other Inox pic that was posted a few days ago? Could you send it to me, please? - [[User:Taurus96]]

==I hate this pistol==
: I wish this gun wasn't used in Die Hard, just because it is unworthy of all the popularity it has gained because of it. This gun is like a supermodel- it's just skating by on its looks but is horrible in reality-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::But alot of supermodels are hot!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: They're also fucktarded-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Jesus Christ Smith. You hate everything. Tell me, what YOU don't hate?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:: S&W, Browning, FN, Walther, Mauser and all the shit on my page-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:09, 26 June 2009
(UTC)
:::I hoped you would say Vests but i'm left dissapointed. But well, at least you like FN FALs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Vests?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::You never played Left 4 Dead didn't you?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:My computer sucks and all my $ is going towards an L1A1-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, in Left 4 Dead, there is an character called Francis who is a Biker. And he hates everything. Then another guy comes up to him and asks something like, "Francis, what don't you hate?" and Francis goes, "Well, i don't hate vests.". That's you Smith. You are Francis. Because you hate everything.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: Bitchin'. I like jackets better though-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Jackets are always better than vests.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: The sleeves prevent zombies from biting chunks out of your arms-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Let's not derail this discussion, shall we? Let's keep talking about why or why not the M92 doesn't suck ass from an straw. Ok?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: Because it's finicky and breaks easily-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Um, I'm not sure why you hate the 92F so much, especially since you claim to like Beretta's other pistols. I have quite a bit of experience with the 92F and the Taurus PT92 (which I used to own) and I think it's an excellent pistol. Also, the 92F's appearance in movies isn't just due to its looks - as we've discussed in the forum, armorers like the 92F because it's one of the easiest pistols to convert to blank-fire. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:Because it an ammo picky, fragile sonuvabitch is why-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Technically, so are Glocks. No reloads, no unjacketed cartridges etc. --[[User:Phil|Phil]] 01:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:::I've run into few pistols that ''aren't'' at least somewhat ammo picky. My S&W 4506 is extremely unreliable with our own reloads (to be fair, my Dad and I weren't really sure how to make good ones for a while) and with most other types of factory-reloaded ammo we've run through it. My Taurus PT92, in comparison, was actually far less prone to stovepiping with reloaded ammo. Also, if you like Walther, what do you think of just about every gun that they've made since the PP series? Based on my own experience, Walther has basically sucked for the last 50-something years. Even the later-generation PPKs are crap compared to the earlier models. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:My P22 jams all the damn time, so I know exactly what your talking about-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I still don't understand why you hate the 92 models, Smith. I've read your page, and yet it doesn't seem logical to me. I mean, all the Beretta 92 variants, and the Taurus PT92 that my uncle owns, were very good pistols. The open ejection port keeps it from jamming most of the time, and it's actually very accurate. I mean, the locking block is specifically designed to be accurate, and it does a great job. If you dislike it simply because of the 9x19mm bullets, then remember, it also comes in .40 S&W (technically, that's the 96 series, but it's still the same design). Personally, 9x19mm is perfect, unless you're trying to take down some sort of large, dangerous animal, or a man doped up on painkillers. It has barely noticeable recoil, which only increases the accuracy of the gun. While it may not have the stopping power of a .45 or other larger calibers, it doesn't really need it. In most scenarios, a double tap to the chest and then a shot to the head, just to be sure, is all that's needed. I could understand if you didn't like it simply because it's a very popular gun in movies, but disliking it because you claim that it's inaccurate and that it jams easily just isn't logical, seeing as it is in fact accurate and not at all prone to jamming. If you want an inaccurate pistol, try the M1911. And as to the gun being very easy to break, you shouldn't take your facts from S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl.

Also, on a completely unrelated note, Smith, have you read any Ayn Rand, such as Atlas Shrugged?[[User:Acora|Acora]] 11:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I dont think 9mms are so bad. I'm Australian and we use a 9mm Browning hi power, which is a very compotent military gun. I dont like the m9's reliability, though. [[User:Mcguinness]]

== Movie pistol ==

Personally, I've never fired this gun in my life, so I can't comment on it's performance (although I'm guessing its at the very least a decent gun: why else would the military use it?). But it seems like 90% of all movies today (at least movies with directors that don't know much about guns) always features a Beretta 92FS, especially used by cops (excluding movies featuring the LAPD because that's what they really use). The point I'm trying to make is that ever since it became famous from ''Lethal Weapon'' and ''Die Hard'', the Beretta has become the default Hollywood movie pistol. If ever a Hollywood movie needs some random gun, and they don't know anything about guns, they seem to always use a Beretta, whether its used by some extra or by the main character. Just thought I'd express my thoughts. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:''It's recognizable. That's it. The Beretta 92FS is to movies today what Colt Single Action Army pistols and the like were to the westerns of the 50's and 60's, and the Thompson was and is to pretty much every gangster-oriented movie ever made.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 03:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

::The appearance is a big part of it, but less so nowadays, because the 92F is an aging design and doesn't have quite the same sexiness that it did in the 1980s and 90s. The 92F is the "default" Hollywood 9mm pistol because it has a reputation for being one of the most reliable guns when converted to blank-fire. The open-top slide and barrel assembly requires much less effort to convert to blank-fire than most other short-recoil semi-auto pistols, because there is no lock-up to remove. So propmasters and armorers continue to use them heavily because of their reputation as a good blank gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well that would certainly explain it. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

::::I would like to complement the contributors to this section for a far more insightful discussion than the one above.
:It's more insightful because the one above is biased and full of opinion-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you. I appreciate that. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 01:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:At least I admit it when I get carried away-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

:In regards to the comment about random police officers seen using this weapon, I agree fully with the position that the weapon is overused and out of place when it comes to many characters in law enforcement. I find it especially egregious when the weapon is seen in the hands of NYPD officers (such as in the entire Spider Man series) and FBI agents, both of whom to my knowledge never used this pistol in large numbers. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::Seeing the Beretta in ''Spiderman'' was really annoying. It wasn't like in ''Lethal Weapon'' where it was synonomous with the main character, it was just used by some extras as the fallback choice of firearm. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately, in the movie industry, simplicity often comes before realism. It would be great if the Glock had been used in Spiderman, since it's the standard issue firearm for the NYPD, and if armorers would do some research and have any police officers in their films using the correct on-duty sidearms for their department, but unfortunately, the Beretta is easy to convert, and therefore is used more often, even when it wouldn't be realistic for the character to have it.

==Die Hard and Lethal Weapon==
I've looked at a few of the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon pages, and there seems to be some confusion about which of the two Berettas on this site was used in each film. So, for future reference: which Berettas were used in the Die Hard films and the Lethal Weapon films? I'll put them up. Thanks. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|none|]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|]]

:What the Beretta page says is pretty much accurate. The first gun was used in both the first ''[[Die Hard]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon]]''. See how it has a custom extended slide release (due to Willis being a leftie)? In ''[[Die Hard]]'', there are plenty of scenes where it's possible to see that same extension on the slide release (most notably, during the scene where McClane is about to wander through the shattered glass). The second gun was used in the other three ''Die Hard'' movies and ''[[Demoliton Man]]''.

:Also, I don't know why people keep putting the ''[[Die Hard]]'' Beretta on other pages for movies which didn't feature that '''particular''' gun. It should only be used for pages on movies in which it's actually appeared, no more. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Ok, so the first one was in the first ''Die Hard'' and the first ''Lethal Weapon'', while the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?

::It's interesting how the ''Lethal Weapon'' pistol was the same one from ''Die Hard''. Obviously it was modified for Bruce Willis to use, but didn't ''Lethal Weapon'' come out a year prior to ''Die Hard''?

::As far as using the ''Die Hard'' image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from ''Die Hard'' is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site. Thanks for your help, MT. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Also, the Beretta used in the first Lethal Weapon was different from in the subsequent films because it had a gold Beretta logo on the grips instead of the black one that matches the grips on the Berettas shown here. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::''the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?''

::::I'm not really sure. When MoviePropMaster took the pictures of these guns, he said he may have got confused what movies they appeared in. But here is a picture of the second Beretta (and its "stunt double") in their display case at Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry:

::::[[Image:DisplayCase01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

::::You can see that the label next to the gun only mentions ''Die Hard II'' and ''Demolition Man'' as its movie appearances. But MPM '''did''' say he was specifically told that they also brought this Beretta out of "retirement" from the glass case so that it could have a cameo appearance in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' (as we mentioned on the page for that movie). I'm not sure if it was in ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', but that strikes me as unlikely because that movie was filmed in New York and a different armory supplied the weapons for it. I'm also not sure if it was in any of the other ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' movies or not. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::''As far as using the Die Hard image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from Die Hard is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site.''

::::Hmmm, to me, that's kind of stupid because there is so little difference between the 92F and 92FS. Not to mention that it's rather hard to be sure when one or the other is being used (the 92FS replaced the 92F in production very quickly, after all). But I would prefer that the ''[[Die Hard]]''/''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' Beretta only be used on pages for movies in which it actually appears. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::::I think they do this to movies that featured the Beretta that were made in the 80s. If I'm not mistaken, the Beretta 92FS came out in 1990, so they probably think it would be inaccurate to post a picture of the 92FS when the movie obviously used a 92F. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::::Well that's all a moot point. I Just uploaded two shots of early Beretta 92Fs which can be used generically as opposed to the hero movie guns. Thank you thank you thank you, just leave a tip in the jar........ [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

MPM2008, you deserve a cookie. I have replaced the 92FS image and the Die Hard 92F in a few 80's films. But what is the best year to stop using the 92F? Lethal Weapon 2 came out in '89 and Die Hard 2 '90, they both feature the 92FS. Anything prior to '88? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:The 92FS actually came out in either late 1988/early 1989, so these guns were purchased IMMEDIATELY and used right away, which is rare unless it's a hot and 'hip/trendy' gun like the 92. Prior to 1989 there ARE no 92FS guns. PRior to 1983 there are no 92F guns (The ones in 1983 were actually 92SB-F guns which were the same weapon. There is NO stop use date for the 92F or even the 92S/92SB guns. As you've seen people still grab them from inventory as recently as now in films. Just because the Walther P38 technically stopped production at the end of WW2 (Walther's post war versions were actually named differently) we still see the P38 in films for the past 65 years. So in essence we're just taking a wild guess. The only things we can be sure of is when they are NOT being used (i.e. the year of production is too early for the model to have been sold). But any gun of any age can be used at any time. When in doubt and it looks the same, opt for the 92FS from 1990 on unless you can get a really good look at the shiny grips, then it's a 92F. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on the new Beretta 92F pictures, MPM2008, they look great!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I get what you mean about the 92F still being used today. But like you said unless you can really see the shiny grips or have a really great shot of the slide. You pretty much have to go when the film was made. I haven't handled that many Beretta's I didn't even notice the grips being different F shiny vs FS flat.
Here is a pic of my 92F. While the grips look flat, they're shiny it is just my crappy photo skills.
[[Image:PRE20-BER92F.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Also wouldn't a history timeline of the changes on the 92 be a good thing for the page? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

==TEST==

original list
* [[Will Smith]] as Lt. Col. Dr. Robert Neville in ''[[I Am Legend]]''

* [[Mykelti Williamson]] as Sgt. Drucker in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Liam Neeson]] as Bryan Mills in ''[[Taken]]''

* Undercover Officers in ''[[La Haine]]''

* [[Richard Grieco]] as Michael Corben(Promotional shots) and Pierre in ''[[Teen Agent]]''

* Assassins in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' (fitted with suppressors)

* [[Jason Bose Smith]] as Little Henry, a carjacker, and LAPD officers in ''[[American History X]]''

* U.S. Army Rangers in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* [[Sean Patrick Flanery]] as Connor MacManus, [[Norman Reedus]] as Murphy MacManus, and [[David Della Rocco]] as Rocco ("the Funny Man") in ''[[The Boondock Saints]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''

* [[Diego Sandoval]] as ''Empty Gun Man'' in ''[[Desperado]]'' (fitted with suppressor)

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Lt. John McClane in the ''[[Die Hard]]'' series

* An L.A.P.D. SWAT officer, [[Alan Rickman]] as Hans Gruber, and [[Alexander Godunov]] as Karl in ''[[Die Hard]]''

* [[Nicolas Cage]] as Castor Troy and [[Dominique Swain]] as Jamie Archer in ''[[Face/Off]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as Jack Carter in ''[[Get Carter (2001)|Get Carter]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Tequila Yuen and [[Tony Leung]] as Alan in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Mark Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Waise Lee]] as Shing, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, and Triad gang members in ''[[A Better Tomorrow]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ken Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, [[Dean Shek]] as Lung Si, [[Fui-On Shing]] as Ko's Right Hand Man, [[Ming Yan Lung]] as Chong, [[Shan Kwan]] as Ko Ying Pui, and others in ''[[A Better Tomorrow II]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ah Jong in ''[[The Killer]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as John Lee in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Detective Nick Chen in ''[[The Corruptor]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Josh Hartnett]] as Detective K.C. Calden in ''[[Hollywood Homicide]]''

* [[Kim Bodnia]] as Harald in ''[[In China They Eat Dogs]]''

* [[Adam Baldwin]] as Major Mitchell, U.S. military and Secret Service personnel in ''[[Independence Day]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Jarhead]]''

* [[Mel Gibson]] as Detective Martin Riggs in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series ''(fitted with a laser sight in [[Lethal Weapon 4]])''

* L.A.P.D. officers and [[Rene Russo]] as Sergeant Lorna Cole in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Leon in ''[[Leon (The Professional)]]''(Customized with Compensators and Silencers)

* [[Jared Leto]] as Vitaly Orlov in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as DEA Agent Sean Vetter and [[Larenz Tate]] as DEA Agent Demetrius Hicks in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* [[Keanu Reeves]] as Neo in ''[[The Matrix]]'' and in ''[[The Matrix Revolutions]]''

* FBI Agents and [[Jackie Chan]] as Chief Inspector Lee in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Dennis Quaid]] as Guy and [[Stellan Skarsgard]] as Peter Dominic in ''[[Savior]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[The Siege]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* L.A.P.D. patrol officers and one of Montel's cronies in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' ''(the latter being fitted with a silencer)''

* [[Robert Patrick]] as the T-1000 in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]] as the T-X in ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* [[Ethan Hawke]] as Officer Jake Hoyt in ''[[Training Day]]''

* [[Kate Beckinsale]] as Selene in ''[[Underworld]]'' (fitted with compensators and modified to fire full auto)

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Volcano]]''

* N.S.A. agent posing as a robber at the 'diner' in ''[[xXx]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[X-Men]]''

* [[Lou Diamond Phillips]] as Cisco in ''[[The Big Hit]]''

* U.S. Navy S.E.A.L.S., [[Sean Connery]] as John Patrick Mason, and [[Nicolas Cage]] as FBI Agent Stanley Goodspeed in ''[[The Rock]]'' (Connery and Cage using one fitted with a tactical flashlight)

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Lions for Lambs]]''

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Bob Lee Swagger in ''[[Shooter]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as John Spartan in ''[[Demolition Man]]''

* [[Jet Li]] as Gabriel Law in ''[[The One]]''.

* [[Steven Seagal]] as Nico Toscani in ''[[Above the Law]]''

* Police in ''[[Vantage Point]]''

* [[Steve Carell]] as Agent 86 in ''[[Get Smart]]''

* [[Scott Caan]] as Jones in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* Japanese soldiers in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* [[Martin Lawrence]] as Miles Logan in''[[Blue Streak]]''

* [[Elizabeth Banks]] as Starla Grant in ''[[Slither]]''

* Shinji Mimura in [[Battle Royale|Battle Royale(Film)]]

* [[Tom Cruise]] as Ethan Hunt in ''[[Mission: Impossible 3]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* Rookie Kincaid in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* [[Clive Owen]] as Louis Salinger in [[The International]]

* Minneapolis P.D. officers in ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''

* ''[[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]'' (2008)

* Omar in ''[[Traitor]]''

* Mace in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* An assassin in ''[[The Sentinel]]'', fitted with a suppressor.

* Detectives Curtis and Anderson in ''[[Unknown]]''

* Truck driver in ''[[Dreamcatcher]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Dragon Wars: D-War]]''

* [[Andy Whitfield]] as Gabriel in ''[[Gabriel]]'' (dual-wielded with silencers)

* The corrupt police officers hired by Dominic Greene in ''[[Quantum of Solace]]''

* Kansas City Police officers and detectives in ''[[Mad Money]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Chev Chelios, [[Art Hsu]] as Johnny Vang, and LAPD officers in ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]''

* A member of the french national police in ''[[MR 73]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''

* [[Esai Morales]] as Staff Sergeant Stern in ''[[In the Army Now]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Sheriff Pangborn in ''[[Needful Things]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Frankie in ''[[State of Grace]]''

* [[Tengiz Borisoff]] as Josip Barada in ''[[Red Heat]]''

* [[Sue Price]] as Alex Sinclair in ''[[Nemesis 2: Nebula]], [[Nemesis III: Prey Harder]] and [[Nemesis 4: Death Angel]]''

* [[Barry Pepper]] as Mike Norton in ''[[Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The]]''

* [[Ben Kingsley]] as Frank Falenczyk in ''[[You Kill Me]]

* [[Viktor Sukhorukov]] as Victor Bagrov in [[Brother 2#Beretta 92FS|Brother 2]]

* American cops in [[Brother 2#Police weapon on Viktor's detention|Brother 2]]

* [[Ben Kingsley]] as Xavier Fitch and [[Michael Madsen]] as Preston Lennox in ''[[Species]]''

* [[Larry B. Scott]] as Sgt. Charles Biddle in ''[[ Extreme Prejudice]]'' (1987)

* FBI Agents in ''[[In the Line of Duty: The FBI Murders]]'' (continuity error)

==Distinction==
What exactly is the distinction between the Beretta 92F and the 92FS?
:The FS models have a slide retention device on the frame. Here is a pic showing the slide differences. The FS on top, F on the bottom. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Slide.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Variantons we don't have ==

We are lacking:

Beretta 92A1: 17 round mag, and a Picattiny-Similar rail under the barrel

Beretta 96A1: Same as above but is chambered in .40 S&W and haves a 12 round mag

Beretta 92FS type M9A1: Basically a civilian M9A1 --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 01:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

:Unless those weapons have appeared in any movies or TV shows, I'm not sure we need them on this page. Our goal is to document what appears in movies, not to make a comprehensive list of every variant that Beretta has ever made. As a general guideline, we don't add variants/pictures to a page if we have no evidence that they've appeared in any media. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 00:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Beretta 92 pistol series

2010-05-03T07:18:47Z

Mcguinness: /* I hate this pistol */

==Correction==
The Boondock Saints characters David Della Rocco and the McManus brothers were incorrectly listed as users of the Beretta 92FS. In the movie, the actual pistols used were the Taurus PT92 with optional suppressors. The Taurus markings are visible in the Carlo Yakavetta execution scene at the end of the movie and was also confirmed by the armorer for the movie and director Troy Duffy.
:Well your correction was wrong. Have you even looked at the page? Here is a screencap. That's definitely a Beretta, it sometimes switches to a PT92 in certain scenes. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:BSBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be."]]

==Curious Question==
The Beretta Centurion, is it simply a 92FS with a shortened barrel? Or is there something else I'm missing?

It's essentially got the Compact's barrel and slide, the normal sized frame, and a slightly shorter dust cover that doesn't really fit into either other category. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 10:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

==Just a reminder==

When you talk about the Beretta 92F or 92FS, it is not spelled "M92F" (as this page is titled), "M92FS", or even "92 FS" with a space in between the "92" and "FS". It's just Beretta 92F or Beretta 92FS, exactly as I have just spelled it. If you see a page with the older (mis)spelling, please do not hesitate to correct it.

And considering that this page has grown to include all of the 92 variants (including the SB, Brigadier, Centurion, etc.), it might be time to rename it. I would recommend re-titling the page "Beretta 92-series pistols". Anyone else agree? [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==...==

Why not have more info on the 93R? Give it its own page?

I propose the following info 9 (and an image if possible; how do I place/upload images here anyway?)

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The '''[[Beretta 93R]]''' (full name: '''Beretta Model 93R''') is a selective-fire [[9mm]] machine pistol. The "R" stands for "Raffica" which means burst in Italian. It was designed in the 70s and meant for police and military use, offering extra firepower in a small package. It is perfect for concealed carry purposes such as VIP protection, or for close quarters fighting such as room-to-room searches.

A selector switch and the foldable foregrip allows the pistol to fire three round bursts with each pull of the trigger for a potential cyclic rate of 1100 rpm. The designers limited it to three round bursts to allow it to be more easily controlled. The 93R is basically a Beretta 92 series pistol (the Beretta [[92FS]] is designated '''"[[M9 Pistol]] M9"''' by the US military, and is the standard issue pistol for the US military). But the 93R is single action and outfitted with a muzzle brake, an optional detachable shoulder stock and a 20-round magazine that also allowed for a firmer grip. It is currently out of production.

The gun has been used in several movies:

* [[Face/Off]] a 1997 action movie starring John Travolta and Nicolas Cage and directed by John Woo.

* [[Equilibrium]] a 2002 action/science fiction film written and directed by Kurt Wimmer with Christian Bale, Taye Diggs, Christian Kahrmann, Emily Watson and Sean Bean.

==Title change==
I hope no one minds that I changed the page name, "pistol series" matches more of the titles on other pages and is easier to remember than "Series Pistols". Agreed? -GM

==Why separate INOX?==
I was just wondering if there were any technical differences between the 92FS and the INOX, other than the slide being stainless.

:Good question. Only because there are so many movies featuring the 92F Inox that if we didn't separate it from the regular 92F, we'd have to put notes about "Inox finish" in parentheses near each. Whereas most of the other Berettas with Inox finishes don't appear in nearly as many movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

What happened to the other Inox pic that was posted a few days ago? Could you send it to me, please? - [[User:Taurus96]]

==I hate this pistol==
: I wish this gun wasn't used in Die Hard, just because it is unworthy of all the popularity it has gained because of it. This gun is like a supermodel- it's just skating by on its looks but is horrible in reality-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::But alot of supermodels are hot!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: They're also fucktarded-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Jesus Christ Smith. You hate everything. Tell me, what YOU don't hate?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:: S&W, Browning, FN, Walther, Mauser and all the shit on my page-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:09, 26 June 2009
(UTC)
:::I hoped you would say Vests but i'm left dissapointed. But well, at least you like FN FALs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Vests?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::You never played Left 4 Dead didn't you?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:My computer sucks and all my $ is going towards an L1A1-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, in Left 4 Dead, there is an character called Francis who is a Biker. And he hates everything. Then another guy comes up to him and asks something like, "Francis, what don't you hate?" and Francis goes, "Well, i don't hate vests.". That's you Smith. You are Francis. Because you hate everything.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: Bitchin'. I like jackets better though-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Jackets are always better than vests.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: The sleeves prevent zombies from biting chunks out of your arms-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Let's not derail this discussion, shall we? Let's keep talking about why or why not the M92 doesn't suck ass from an straw. Ok?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: Because it's finicky and breaks easily-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Um, I'm not sure why you hate the 92F so much, especially since you claim to like Beretta's other pistols. I have quite a bit of experience with the 92F and the Taurus PT92 (which I used to own) and I think it's an excellent pistol. Also, the 92F's appearance in movies isn't just due to its looks - as we've discussed in the forum, armorers like the 92F because it's one of the easiest pistols to convert to blank-fire. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:Because it an ammo picky, fragile sonuvabitch is why-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Technically, so are Glocks. No reloads, no unjacketed cartridges etc. --[[User:Phil|Phil]] 01:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:::I've run into few pistols that ''aren't'' at least somewhat ammo picky. My S&W 4506 is extremely unreliable with our own reloads (to be fair, my Dad and I weren't really sure how to make good ones for a while) and with most other types of factory-reloaded ammo we've run through it. My Taurus PT92, in comparison, was actually far less prone to stovepiping with reloaded ammo. Also, if you like Walther, what do you think of just about every gun that they've made since the PP series? Based on my own experience, Walther has basically sucked for the last 50-something years. Even the later-generation PPKs are crap compared to the earlier models. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:My P22 jams all the damn time, so I know exactly what your talking about-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I still don't understand why you hate the 92 models, Smith. I've read your page, and yet it doesn't seem logical to me. I mean, all the Beretta 92 variants, and the Taurus PT92 that my uncle owns, were very good pistols. The open ejection port keeps it from jamming most of the time, and it's actually very accurate. I mean, the locking block is specifically designed to be accurate, and it does a great job. If you dislike it simply because of the 9x19mm bullets, then remember, it also comes in .40 S&W (technically, that's the 96 series, but it's still the same design). Personally, 9x19mm is perfect, unless you're trying to take down some sort of large, dangerous animal, or a man doped up on painkillers. It has barely noticeable recoil, which only increases the accuracy of the gun. While it may not have the stopping power of a .45 or other larger calibers, it doesn't really need it. In most scenarios, a double tap to the chest and then a shot to the head, just to be sure, is all that's needed. I could understand if you didn't like it simply because it's a very popular gun in movies, but disliking it because you claim that it's inaccurate and that it jams easily just isn't logical, seeing as it is in fact accurate and not at all prone to jamming. If you want an inaccurate pistol, try the M1911. And as to the gun being very easy to break, you shouldn't take your facts from S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl.

Also, on a completely unrelated note, Smith, have you read any Ayn Rand, such as Atlas Shrugged?[[User:Acora|Acora]] 11:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I dont think 9mms are so bad. I'm Australian and we use a 9mm Browning hi power, which is a very compotent military gun. I dont like the m9's reliability, though. [[User:McGuinness]]

== Movie pistol ==

Personally, I've never fired this gun in my life, so I can't comment on it's performance (although I'm guessing its at the very least a decent gun: why else would the military use it?). But it seems like 90% of all movies today (at least movies with directors that don't know much about guns) always features a Beretta 92FS, especially used by cops (excluding movies featuring the LAPD because that's what they really use). The point I'm trying to make is that ever since it became famous from ''Lethal Weapon'' and ''Die Hard'', the Beretta has become the default Hollywood movie pistol. If ever a Hollywood movie needs some random gun, and they don't know anything about guns, they seem to always use a Beretta, whether its used by some extra or by the main character. Just thought I'd express my thoughts. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:''It's recognizable. That's it. The Beretta 92FS is to movies today what Colt Single Action Army pistols and the like were to the westerns of the 50's and 60's, and the Thompson was and is to pretty much every gangster-oriented movie ever made.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 03:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

::The appearance is a big part of it, but less so nowadays, because the 92F is an aging design and doesn't have quite the same sexiness that it did in the 1980s and 90s. The 92F is the "default" Hollywood 9mm pistol because it has a reputation for being one of the most reliable guns when converted to blank-fire. The open-top slide and barrel assembly requires much less effort to convert to blank-fire than most other short-recoil semi-auto pistols, because there is no lock-up to remove. So propmasters and armorers continue to use them heavily because of their reputation as a good blank gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well that would certainly explain it. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

::::I would like to complement the contributors to this section for a far more insightful discussion than the one above.
:It's more insightful because the one above is biased and full of opinion-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you. I appreciate that. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 01:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:At least I admit it when I get carried away-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

:In regards to the comment about random police officers seen using this weapon, I agree fully with the position that the weapon is overused and out of place when it comes to many characters in law enforcement. I find it especially egregious when the weapon is seen in the hands of NYPD officers (such as in the entire Spider Man series) and FBI agents, both of whom to my knowledge never used this pistol in large numbers. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::Seeing the Beretta in ''Spiderman'' was really annoying. It wasn't like in ''Lethal Weapon'' where it was synonomous with the main character, it was just used by some extras as the fallback choice of firearm. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately, in the movie industry, simplicity often comes before realism. It would be great if the Glock had been used in Spiderman, since it's the standard issue firearm for the NYPD, and if armorers would do some research and have any police officers in their films using the correct on-duty sidearms for their department, but unfortunately, the Beretta is easy to convert, and therefore is used more often, even when it wouldn't be realistic for the character to have it.

==Die Hard and Lethal Weapon==
I've looked at a few of the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon pages, and there seems to be some confusion about which of the two Berettas on this site was used in each film. So, for future reference: which Berettas were used in the Die Hard films and the Lethal Weapon films? I'll put them up. Thanks. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|none|]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|]]

:What the Beretta page says is pretty much accurate. The first gun was used in both the first ''[[Die Hard]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon]]''. See how it has a custom extended slide release (due to Willis being a leftie)? In ''[[Die Hard]]'', there are plenty of scenes where it's possible to see that same extension on the slide release (most notably, during the scene where McClane is about to wander through the shattered glass). The second gun was used in the other three ''Die Hard'' movies and ''[[Demoliton Man]]''.

:Also, I don't know why people keep putting the ''[[Die Hard]]'' Beretta on other pages for movies which didn't feature that '''particular''' gun. It should only be used for pages on movies in which it's actually appeared, no more. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Ok, so the first one was in the first ''Die Hard'' and the first ''Lethal Weapon'', while the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?

::It's interesting how the ''Lethal Weapon'' pistol was the same one from ''Die Hard''. Obviously it was modified for Bruce Willis to use, but didn't ''Lethal Weapon'' come out a year prior to ''Die Hard''?

::As far as using the ''Die Hard'' image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from ''Die Hard'' is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site. Thanks for your help, MT. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Also, the Beretta used in the first Lethal Weapon was different from in the subsequent films because it had a gold Beretta logo on the grips instead of the black one that matches the grips on the Berettas shown here. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::''the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?''

::::I'm not really sure. When MoviePropMaster took the pictures of these guns, he said he may have got confused what movies they appeared in. But here is a picture of the second Beretta (and its "stunt double") in their display case at Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry:

::::[[Image:DisplayCase01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

::::You can see that the label next to the gun only mentions ''Die Hard II'' and ''Demolition Man'' as its movie appearances. But MPM '''did''' say he was specifically told that they also brought this Beretta out of "retirement" from the glass case so that it could have a cameo appearance in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' (as we mentioned on the page for that movie). I'm not sure if it was in ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', but that strikes me as unlikely because that movie was filmed in New York and a different armory supplied the weapons for it. I'm also not sure if it was in any of the other ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' movies or not. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::''As far as using the Die Hard image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from Die Hard is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site.''

::::Hmmm, to me, that's kind of stupid because there is so little difference between the 92F and 92FS. Not to mention that it's rather hard to be sure when one or the other is being used (the 92FS replaced the 92F in production very quickly, after all). But I would prefer that the ''[[Die Hard]]''/''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' Beretta only be used on pages for movies in which it actually appears. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::::I think they do this to movies that featured the Beretta that were made in the 80s. If I'm not mistaken, the Beretta 92FS came out in 1990, so they probably think it would be inaccurate to post a picture of the 92FS when the movie obviously used a 92F. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::::Well that's all a moot point. I Just uploaded two shots of early Beretta 92Fs which can be used generically as opposed to the hero movie guns. Thank you thank you thank you, just leave a tip in the jar........ [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

MPM2008, you deserve a cookie. I have replaced the 92FS image and the Die Hard 92F in a few 80's films. But what is the best year to stop using the 92F? Lethal Weapon 2 came out in '89 and Die Hard 2 '90, they both feature the 92FS. Anything prior to '88? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:The 92FS actually came out in either late 1988/early 1989, so these guns were purchased IMMEDIATELY and used right away, which is rare unless it's a hot and 'hip/trendy' gun like the 92. Prior to 1989 there ARE no 92FS guns. PRior to 1983 there are no 92F guns (The ones in 1983 were actually 92SB-F guns which were the same weapon. There is NO stop use date for the 92F or even the 92S/92SB guns. As you've seen people still grab them from inventory as recently as now in films. Just because the Walther P38 technically stopped production at the end of WW2 (Walther's post war versions were actually named differently) we still see the P38 in films for the past 65 years. So in essence we're just taking a wild guess. The only things we can be sure of is when they are NOT being used (i.e. the year of production is too early for the model to have been sold). But any gun of any age can be used at any time. When in doubt and it looks the same, opt for the 92FS from 1990 on unless you can get a really good look at the shiny grips, then it's a 92F. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on the new Beretta 92F pictures, MPM2008, they look great!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I get what you mean about the 92F still being used today. But like you said unless you can really see the shiny grips or have a really great shot of the slide. You pretty much have to go when the film was made. I haven't handled that many Beretta's I didn't even notice the grips being different F shiny vs FS flat.
Here is a pic of my 92F. While the grips look flat, they're shiny it is just my crappy photo skills.
[[Image:PRE20-BER92F.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Also wouldn't a history timeline of the changes on the 92 be a good thing for the page? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

==TEST==

original list
* [[Will Smith]] as Lt. Col. Dr. Robert Neville in ''[[I Am Legend]]''

* [[Mykelti Williamson]] as Sgt. Drucker in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Liam Neeson]] as Bryan Mills in ''[[Taken]]''

* Undercover Officers in ''[[La Haine]]''

* [[Richard Grieco]] as Michael Corben(Promotional shots) and Pierre in ''[[Teen Agent]]''

* Assassins in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' (fitted with suppressors)

* [[Jason Bose Smith]] as Little Henry, a carjacker, and LAPD officers in ''[[American History X]]''

* U.S. Army Rangers in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* [[Sean Patrick Flanery]] as Connor MacManus, [[Norman Reedus]] as Murphy MacManus, and [[David Della Rocco]] as Rocco ("the Funny Man") in ''[[The Boondock Saints]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''

* [[Diego Sandoval]] as ''Empty Gun Man'' in ''[[Desperado]]'' (fitted with suppressor)

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Lt. John McClane in the ''[[Die Hard]]'' series

* An L.A.P.D. SWAT officer, [[Alan Rickman]] as Hans Gruber, and [[Alexander Godunov]] as Karl in ''[[Die Hard]]''

* [[Nicolas Cage]] as Castor Troy and [[Dominique Swain]] as Jamie Archer in ''[[Face/Off]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as Jack Carter in ''[[Get Carter (2001)|Get Carter]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Tequila Yuen and [[Tony Leung]] as Alan in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Mark Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Waise Lee]] as Shing, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, and Triad gang members in ''[[A Better Tomorrow]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ken Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, [[Dean Shek]] as Lung Si, [[Fui-On Shing]] as Ko's Right Hand Man, [[Ming Yan Lung]] as Chong, [[Shan Kwan]] as Ko Ying Pui, and others in ''[[A Better Tomorrow II]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ah Jong in ''[[The Killer]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as John Lee in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Detective Nick Chen in ''[[The Corruptor]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Josh Hartnett]] as Detective K.C. Calden in ''[[Hollywood Homicide]]''

* [[Kim Bodnia]] as Harald in ''[[In China They Eat Dogs]]''

* [[Adam Baldwin]] as Major Mitchell, U.S. military and Secret Service personnel in ''[[Independence Day]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Jarhead]]''

* [[Mel Gibson]] as Detective Martin Riggs in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series ''(fitted with a laser sight in [[Lethal Weapon 4]])''

* L.A.P.D. officers and [[Rene Russo]] as Sergeant Lorna Cole in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Leon in ''[[Leon (The Professional)]]''(Customized with Compensators and Silencers)

* [[Jared Leto]] as Vitaly Orlov in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as DEA Agent Sean Vetter and [[Larenz Tate]] as DEA Agent Demetrius Hicks in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* [[Keanu Reeves]] as Neo in ''[[The Matrix]]'' and in ''[[The Matrix Revolutions]]''

* FBI Agents and [[Jackie Chan]] as Chief Inspector Lee in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Dennis Quaid]] as Guy and [[Stellan Skarsgard]] as Peter Dominic in ''[[Savior]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[The Siege]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* L.A.P.D. patrol officers and one of Montel's cronies in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' ''(the latter being fitted with a silencer)''

* [[Robert Patrick]] as the T-1000 in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]] as the T-X in ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* [[Ethan Hawke]] as Officer Jake Hoyt in ''[[Training Day]]''

* [[Kate Beckinsale]] as Selene in ''[[Underworld]]'' (fitted with compensators and modified to fire full auto)

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Volcano]]''

* N.S.A. agent posing as a robber at the 'diner' in ''[[xXx]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[X-Men]]''

* [[Lou Diamond Phillips]] as Cisco in ''[[The Big Hit]]''

* U.S. Navy S.E.A.L.S., [[Sean Connery]] as John Patrick Mason, and [[Nicolas Cage]] as FBI Agent Stanley Goodspeed in ''[[The Rock]]'' (Connery and Cage using one fitted with a tactical flashlight)

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Lions for Lambs]]''

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Bob Lee Swagger in ''[[Shooter]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as John Spartan in ''[[Demolition Man]]''

* [[Jet Li]] as Gabriel Law in ''[[The One]]''.

* [[Steven Seagal]] as Nico Toscani in ''[[Above the Law]]''

* Police in ''[[Vantage Point]]''

* [[Steve Carell]] as Agent 86 in ''[[Get Smart]]''

* [[Scott Caan]] as Jones in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* Japanese soldiers in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* [[Martin Lawrence]] as Miles Logan in''[[Blue Streak]]''

* [[Elizabeth Banks]] as Starla Grant in ''[[Slither]]''

* Shinji Mimura in [[Battle Royale|Battle Royale(Film)]]

* [[Tom Cruise]] as Ethan Hunt in ''[[Mission: Impossible 3]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* Rookie Kincaid in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* [[Clive Owen]] as Louis Salinger in [[The International]]

* Minneapolis P.D. officers in ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''

* ''[[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]'' (2008)

* Omar in ''[[Traitor]]''

* Mace in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* An assassin in ''[[The Sentinel]]'', fitted with a suppressor.

* Detectives Curtis and Anderson in ''[[Unknown]]''

* Truck driver in ''[[Dreamcatcher]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Dragon Wars: D-War]]''

* [[Andy Whitfield]] as Gabriel in ''[[Gabriel]]'' (dual-wielded with silencers)

* The corrupt police officers hired by Dominic Greene in ''[[Quantum of Solace]]''

* Kansas City Police officers and detectives in ''[[Mad Money]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Chev Chelios, [[Art Hsu]] as Johnny Vang, and LAPD officers in ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]''

* A member of the french national police in ''[[MR 73]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''

* [[Esai Morales]] as Staff Sergeant Stern in ''[[In the Army Now]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Sheriff Pangborn in ''[[Needful Things]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Frankie in ''[[State of Grace]]''

* [[Tengiz Borisoff]] as Josip Barada in ''[[Red Heat]]''

* [[Sue Price]] as Alex Sinclair in ''[[Nemesis 2: Nebula]], [[Nemesis III: Prey Harder]] and [[Nemesis 4: Death Angel]]''

* [[Barry Pepper]] as Mike Norton in ''[[Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The]]''

* [[Ben Kingsley]] as Frank Falenczyk in ''[[You Kill Me]]

* [[Viktor Sukhorukov]] as Victor Bagrov in [[Brother 2#Beretta 92FS|Brother 2]]

* American cops in [[Brother 2#Police weapon on Viktor's detention|Brother 2]]

* [[Ben Kingsley]] as Xavier Fitch and [[Michael Madsen]] as Preston Lennox in ''[[Species]]''

* [[Larry B. Scott]] as Sgt. Charles Biddle in ''[[ Extreme Prejudice]]'' (1987)

* FBI Agents in ''[[In the Line of Duty: The FBI Murders]]'' (continuity error)

==Distinction==
What exactly is the distinction between the Beretta 92F and the 92FS?
:The FS models have a slide retention device on the frame. Here is a pic showing the slide differences. The FS on top, F on the bottom. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Slide.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Variantons we don't have ==

We are lacking:

Beretta 92A1: 17 round mag, and a Picattiny-Similar rail under the barrel

Beretta 96A1: Same as above but is chambered in .40 S&W and haves a 12 round mag

Beretta 92FS type M9A1: Basically a civilian M9A1 --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 01:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

:Unless those weapons have appeared in any movies or TV shows, I'm not sure we need them on this page. Our goal is to document what appears in movies, not to make a comprehensive list of every variant that Beretta has ever made. As a general guideline, we don't add variants/pictures to a page if we have no evidence that they've appeared in any media. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 00:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Beretta 92 pistol series

2010-05-03T07:17:54Z

Mcguinness: /* I hate this pistol */

==Correction==
The Boondock Saints characters David Della Rocco and the McManus brothers were incorrectly listed as users of the Beretta 92FS. In the movie, the actual pistols used were the Taurus PT92 with optional suppressors. The Taurus markings are visible in the Carlo Yakavetta execution scene at the end of the movie and was also confirmed by the armorer for the movie and director Troy Duffy.
:Well your correction was wrong. Have you even looked at the page? Here is a screencap. That's definitely a Beretta, it sometimes switches to a PT92 in certain scenes. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:BSBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be."]]

==Curious Question==
The Beretta Centurion, is it simply a 92FS with a shortened barrel? Or is there something else I'm missing?

It's essentially got the Compact's barrel and slide, the normal sized frame, and a slightly shorter dust cover that doesn't really fit into either other category. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 10:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

==Just a reminder==

When you talk about the Beretta 92F or 92FS, it is not spelled "M92F" (as this page is titled), "M92FS", or even "92 FS" with a space in between the "92" and "FS". It's just Beretta 92F or Beretta 92FS, exactly as I have just spelled it. If you see a page with the older (mis)spelling, please do not hesitate to correct it.

And considering that this page has grown to include all of the 92 variants (including the SB, Brigadier, Centurion, etc.), it might be time to rename it. I would recommend re-titling the page "Beretta 92-series pistols". Anyone else agree? [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==...==

Why not have more info on the 93R? Give it its own page?

I propose the following info 9 (and an image if possible; how do I place/upload images here anyway?)

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The '''[[Beretta 93R]]''' (full name: '''Beretta Model 93R''') is a selective-fire [[9mm]] machine pistol. The "R" stands for "Raffica" which means burst in Italian. It was designed in the 70s and meant for police and military use, offering extra firepower in a small package. It is perfect for concealed carry purposes such as VIP protection, or for close quarters fighting such as room-to-room searches.

A selector switch and the foldable foregrip allows the pistol to fire three round bursts with each pull of the trigger for a potential cyclic rate of 1100 rpm. The designers limited it to three round bursts to allow it to be more easily controlled. The 93R is basically a Beretta 92 series pistol (the Beretta [[92FS]] is designated '''"[[M9 Pistol]] M9"''' by the US military, and is the standard issue pistol for the US military). But the 93R is single action and outfitted with a muzzle brake, an optional detachable shoulder stock and a 20-round magazine that also allowed for a firmer grip. It is currently out of production.

The gun has been used in several movies:

* [[Face/Off]] a 1997 action movie starring John Travolta and Nicolas Cage and directed by John Woo.

* [[Equilibrium]] a 2002 action/science fiction film written and directed by Kurt Wimmer with Christian Bale, Taye Diggs, Christian Kahrmann, Emily Watson and Sean Bean.

==Title change==
I hope no one minds that I changed the page name, "pistol series" matches more of the titles on other pages and is easier to remember than "Series Pistols". Agreed? -GM

==Why separate INOX?==
I was just wondering if there were any technical differences between the 92FS and the INOX, other than the slide being stainless.

:Good question. Only because there are so many movies featuring the 92F Inox that if we didn't separate it from the regular 92F, we'd have to put notes about "Inox finish" in parentheses near each. Whereas most of the other Berettas with Inox finishes don't appear in nearly as many movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

What happened to the other Inox pic that was posted a few days ago? Could you send it to me, please? - [[User:Taurus96]]

==I hate this pistol==
: I wish this gun wasn't used in Die Hard, just because it is unworthy of all the popularity it has gained because of it. This gun is like a supermodel- it's just skating by on its looks but is horrible in reality-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::But alot of supermodels are hot!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: They're also fucktarded-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Jesus Christ Smith. You hate everything. Tell me, what YOU don't hate?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:: S&W, Browning, FN, Walther, Mauser and all the shit on my page-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:09, 26 June 2009
(UTC)
:::I hoped you would say Vests but i'm left dissapointed. But well, at least you like FN FALs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Vests?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::You never played Left 4 Dead didn't you?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:My computer sucks and all my $ is going towards an L1A1-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, in Left 4 Dead, there is an character called Francis who is a Biker. And he hates everything. Then another guy comes up to him and asks something like, "Francis, what don't you hate?" and Francis goes, "Well, i don't hate vests.". That's you Smith. You are Francis. Because you hate everything.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: Bitchin'. I like jackets better though-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Jackets are always better than vests.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: The sleeves prevent zombies from biting chunks out of your arms-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Let's not derail this discussion, shall we? Let's keep talking about why or why not the M92 doesn't suck ass from an straw. Ok?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: Because it's finicky and breaks easily-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Um, I'm not sure why you hate the 92F so much, especially since you claim to like Beretta's other pistols. I have quite a bit of experience with the 92F and the Taurus PT92 (which I used to own) and I think it's an excellent pistol. Also, the 92F's appearance in movies isn't just due to its looks - as we've discussed in the forum, armorers like the 92F because it's one of the easiest pistols to convert to blank-fire. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:Because it an ammo picky, fragile sonuvabitch is why-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Technically, so are Glocks. No reloads, no unjacketed cartridges etc. --[[User:Phil|Phil]] 01:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:::I've run into few pistols that ''aren't'' at least somewhat ammo picky. My S&W 4506 is extremely unreliable with our own reloads (to be fair, my Dad and I weren't really sure how to make good ones for a while) and with most other types of factory-reloaded ammo we've run through it. My Taurus PT92, in comparison, was actually far less prone to stovepiping with reloaded ammo. Also, if you like Walther, what do you think of just about every gun that they've made since the PP series? Based on my own experience, Walther has basically sucked for the last 50-something years. Even the later-generation PPKs are crap compared to the earlier models. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:My P22 jams all the damn time, so I know exactly what your talking about-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I still don't understand why you hate the 92 models, Smith. I've read your page, and yet it doesn't seem logical to me. I mean, all the Beretta 92 variants, and the Taurus PT92 that my uncle owns, were very good pistols. The open ejection port keeps it from jamming most of the time, and it's actually very accurate. I mean, the locking block is specifically designed to be accurate, and it does a great job. If you dislike it simply because of the 9x19mm bullets, then remember, it also comes in .40 S&W (technically, that's the 96 series, but it's still the same design). Personally, 9x19mm is perfect, unless you're trying to take down some sort of large, dangerous animal, or a man doped up on painkillers. It has barely noticeable recoil, which only increases the accuracy of the gun. While it may not have the stopping power of a .45 or other larger calibers, it doesn't really need it. In most scenarios, a double tap to the chest and then a shot to the head, just to be sure, is all that's needed. I could understand if you didn't like it simply because it's a very popular gun in movies, but disliking it because you claim that it's inaccurate and that it jams easily just isn't logical, seeing as it is in fact accurate and not at all prone to jamming. If you want an inaccurate pistol, try the M1911. And as to the gun being very easy to break, you shouldn't take your facts from S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl.

Also, on a completely unrelated note, Smith, have you read any Ayn Rand, such as Atlas Shrugged?[[User:Acora|Acora]] 11:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I dont think 9mms are so bad. I'm Australian and we use a 9mm Browning hi power, which is a very compotent military gun. I dont like the m9's reliability, though. [[User: McGuinness]]

== Movie pistol ==

Personally, I've never fired this gun in my life, so I can't comment on it's performance (although I'm guessing its at the very least a decent gun: why else would the military use it?). But it seems like 90% of all movies today (at least movies with directors that don't know much about guns) always features a Beretta 92FS, especially used by cops (excluding movies featuring the LAPD because that's what they really use). The point I'm trying to make is that ever since it became famous from ''Lethal Weapon'' and ''Die Hard'', the Beretta has become the default Hollywood movie pistol. If ever a Hollywood movie needs some random gun, and they don't know anything about guns, they seem to always use a Beretta, whether its used by some extra or by the main character. Just thought I'd express my thoughts. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:''It's recognizable. That's it. The Beretta 92FS is to movies today what Colt Single Action Army pistols and the like were to the westerns of the 50's and 60's, and the Thompson was and is to pretty much every gangster-oriented movie ever made.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 03:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

::The appearance is a big part of it, but less so nowadays, because the 92F is an aging design and doesn't have quite the same sexiness that it did in the 1980s and 90s. The 92F is the "default" Hollywood 9mm pistol because it has a reputation for being one of the most reliable guns when converted to blank-fire. The open-top slide and barrel assembly requires much less effort to convert to blank-fire than most other short-recoil semi-auto pistols, because there is no lock-up to remove. So propmasters and armorers continue to use them heavily because of their reputation as a good blank gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well that would certainly explain it. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

::::I would like to complement the contributors to this section for a far more insightful discussion than the one above.
:It's more insightful because the one above is biased and full of opinion-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you. I appreciate that. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 01:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:At least I admit it when I get carried away-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

:In regards to the comment about random police officers seen using this weapon, I agree fully with the position that the weapon is overused and out of place when it comes to many characters in law enforcement. I find it especially egregious when the weapon is seen in the hands of NYPD officers (such as in the entire Spider Man series) and FBI agents, both of whom to my knowledge never used this pistol in large numbers. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::Seeing the Beretta in ''Spiderman'' was really annoying. It wasn't like in ''Lethal Weapon'' where it was synonomous with the main character, it was just used by some extras as the fallback choice of firearm. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately, in the movie industry, simplicity often comes before realism. It would be great if the Glock had been used in Spiderman, since it's the standard issue firearm for the NYPD, and if armorers would do some research and have any police officers in their films using the correct on-duty sidearms for their department, but unfortunately, the Beretta is easy to convert, and therefore is used more often, even when it wouldn't be realistic for the character to have it.

==Die Hard and Lethal Weapon==
I've looked at a few of the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon pages, and there seems to be some confusion about which of the two Berettas on this site was used in each film. So, for future reference: which Berettas were used in the Die Hard films and the Lethal Weapon films? I'll put them up. Thanks. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|none|]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|]]

:What the Beretta page says is pretty much accurate. The first gun was used in both the first ''[[Die Hard]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon]]''. See how it has a custom extended slide release (due to Willis being a leftie)? In ''[[Die Hard]]'', there are plenty of scenes where it's possible to see that same extension on the slide release (most notably, during the scene where McClane is about to wander through the shattered glass). The second gun was used in the other three ''Die Hard'' movies and ''[[Demoliton Man]]''.

:Also, I don't know why people keep putting the ''[[Die Hard]]'' Beretta on other pages for movies which didn't feature that '''particular''' gun. It should only be used for pages on movies in which it's actually appeared, no more. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Ok, so the first one was in the first ''Die Hard'' and the first ''Lethal Weapon'', while the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?

::It's interesting how the ''Lethal Weapon'' pistol was the same one from ''Die Hard''. Obviously it was modified for Bruce Willis to use, but didn't ''Lethal Weapon'' come out a year prior to ''Die Hard''?

::As far as using the ''Die Hard'' image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from ''Die Hard'' is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site. Thanks for your help, MT. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Also, the Beretta used in the first Lethal Weapon was different from in the subsequent films because it had a gold Beretta logo on the grips instead of the black one that matches the grips on the Berettas shown here. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::''the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?''

::::I'm not really sure. When MoviePropMaster took the pictures of these guns, he said he may have got confused what movies they appeared in. But here is a picture of the second Beretta (and its "stunt double") in their display case at Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry:

::::[[Image:DisplayCase01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

::::You can see that the label next to the gun only mentions ''Die Hard II'' and ''Demolition Man'' as its movie appearances. But MPM '''did''' say he was specifically told that they also brought this Beretta out of "retirement" from the glass case so that it could have a cameo appearance in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' (as we mentioned on the page for that movie). I'm not sure if it was in ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', but that strikes me as unlikely because that movie was filmed in New York and a different armory supplied the weapons for it. I'm also not sure if it was in any of the other ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' movies or not. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::''As far as using the Die Hard image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from Die Hard is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site.''

::::Hmmm, to me, that's kind of stupid because there is so little difference between the 92F and 92FS. Not to mention that it's rather hard to be sure when one or the other is being used (the 92FS replaced the 92F in production very quickly, after all). But I would prefer that the ''[[Die Hard]]''/''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' Beretta only be used on pages for movies in which it actually appears. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::::I think they do this to movies that featured the Beretta that were made in the 80s. If I'm not mistaken, the Beretta 92FS came out in 1990, so they probably think it would be inaccurate to post a picture of the 92FS when the movie obviously used a 92F. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::::Well that's all a moot point. I Just uploaded two shots of early Beretta 92Fs which can be used generically as opposed to the hero movie guns. Thank you thank you thank you, just leave a tip in the jar........ [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

MPM2008, you deserve a cookie. I have replaced the 92FS image and the Die Hard 92F in a few 80's films. But what is the best year to stop using the 92F? Lethal Weapon 2 came out in '89 and Die Hard 2 '90, they both feature the 92FS. Anything prior to '88? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:The 92FS actually came out in either late 1988/early 1989, so these guns were purchased IMMEDIATELY and used right away, which is rare unless it's a hot and 'hip/trendy' gun like the 92. Prior to 1989 there ARE no 92FS guns. PRior to 1983 there are no 92F guns (The ones in 1983 were actually 92SB-F guns which were the same weapon. There is NO stop use date for the 92F or even the 92S/92SB guns. As you've seen people still grab them from inventory as recently as now in films. Just because the Walther P38 technically stopped production at the end of WW2 (Walther's post war versions were actually named differently) we still see the P38 in films for the past 65 years. So in essence we're just taking a wild guess. The only things we can be sure of is when they are NOT being used (i.e. the year of production is too early for the model to have been sold). But any gun of any age can be used at any time. When in doubt and it looks the same, opt for the 92FS from 1990 on unless you can get a really good look at the shiny grips, then it's a 92F. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on the new Beretta 92F pictures, MPM2008, they look great!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I get what you mean about the 92F still being used today. But like you said unless you can really see the shiny grips or have a really great shot of the slide. You pretty much have to go when the film was made. I haven't handled that many Beretta's I didn't even notice the grips being different F shiny vs FS flat.
Here is a pic of my 92F. While the grips look flat, they're shiny it is just my crappy photo skills.
[[Image:PRE20-BER92F.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Also wouldn't a history timeline of the changes on the 92 be a good thing for the page? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

==TEST==

original list
* [[Will Smith]] as Lt. Col. Dr. Robert Neville in ''[[I Am Legend]]''

* [[Mykelti Williamson]] as Sgt. Drucker in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Liam Neeson]] as Bryan Mills in ''[[Taken]]''

* Undercover Officers in ''[[La Haine]]''

* [[Richard Grieco]] as Michael Corben(Promotional shots) and Pierre in ''[[Teen Agent]]''

* Assassins in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' (fitted with suppressors)

* [[Jason Bose Smith]] as Little Henry, a carjacker, and LAPD officers in ''[[American History X]]''

* U.S. Army Rangers in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* [[Sean Patrick Flanery]] as Connor MacManus, [[Norman Reedus]] as Murphy MacManus, and [[David Della Rocco]] as Rocco ("the Funny Man") in ''[[The Boondock Saints]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''

* [[Diego Sandoval]] as ''Empty Gun Man'' in ''[[Desperado]]'' (fitted with suppressor)

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Lt. John McClane in the ''[[Die Hard]]'' series

* An L.A.P.D. SWAT officer, [[Alan Rickman]] as Hans Gruber, and [[Alexander Godunov]] as Karl in ''[[Die Hard]]''

* [[Nicolas Cage]] as Castor Troy and [[Dominique Swain]] as Jamie Archer in ''[[Face/Off]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as Jack Carter in ''[[Get Carter (2001)|Get Carter]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Tequila Yuen and [[Tony Leung]] as Alan in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Mark Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Waise Lee]] as Shing, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, and Triad gang members in ''[[A Better Tomorrow]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ken Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, [[Dean Shek]] as Lung Si, [[Fui-On Shing]] as Ko's Right Hand Man, [[Ming Yan Lung]] as Chong, [[Shan Kwan]] as Ko Ying Pui, and others in ''[[A Better Tomorrow II]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ah Jong in ''[[The Killer]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as John Lee in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Detective Nick Chen in ''[[The Corruptor]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Josh Hartnett]] as Detective K.C. Calden in ''[[Hollywood Homicide]]''

* [[Kim Bodnia]] as Harald in ''[[In China They Eat Dogs]]''

* [[Adam Baldwin]] as Major Mitchell, U.S. military and Secret Service personnel in ''[[Independence Day]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Jarhead]]''

* [[Mel Gibson]] as Detective Martin Riggs in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series ''(fitted with a laser sight in [[Lethal Weapon 4]])''

* L.A.P.D. officers and [[Rene Russo]] as Sergeant Lorna Cole in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Leon in ''[[Leon (The Professional)]]''(Customized with Compensators and Silencers)

* [[Jared Leto]] as Vitaly Orlov in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as DEA Agent Sean Vetter and [[Larenz Tate]] as DEA Agent Demetrius Hicks in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* [[Keanu Reeves]] as Neo in ''[[The Matrix]]'' and in ''[[The Matrix Revolutions]]''

* FBI Agents and [[Jackie Chan]] as Chief Inspector Lee in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Dennis Quaid]] as Guy and [[Stellan Skarsgard]] as Peter Dominic in ''[[Savior]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[The Siege]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* L.A.P.D. patrol officers and one of Montel's cronies in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' ''(the latter being fitted with a silencer)''

* [[Robert Patrick]] as the T-1000 in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]] as the T-X in ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* [[Ethan Hawke]] as Officer Jake Hoyt in ''[[Training Day]]''

* [[Kate Beckinsale]] as Selene in ''[[Underworld]]'' (fitted with compensators and modified to fire full auto)

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Volcano]]''

* N.S.A. agent posing as a robber at the 'diner' in ''[[xXx]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[X-Men]]''

* [[Lou Diamond Phillips]] as Cisco in ''[[The Big Hit]]''

* U.S. Navy S.E.A.L.S., [[Sean Connery]] as John Patrick Mason, and [[Nicolas Cage]] as FBI Agent Stanley Goodspeed in ''[[The Rock]]'' (Connery and Cage using one fitted with a tactical flashlight)

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Lions for Lambs]]''

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Bob Lee Swagger in ''[[Shooter]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as John Spartan in ''[[Demolition Man]]''

* [[Jet Li]] as Gabriel Law in ''[[The One]]''.

* [[Steven Seagal]] as Nico Toscani in ''[[Above the Law]]''

* Police in ''[[Vantage Point]]''

* [[Steve Carell]] as Agent 86 in ''[[Get Smart]]''

* [[Scott Caan]] as Jones in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* Japanese soldiers in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* [[Martin Lawrence]] as Miles Logan in''[[Blue Streak]]''

* [[Elizabeth Banks]] as Starla Grant in ''[[Slither]]''

* Shinji Mimura in [[Battle Royale|Battle Royale(Film)]]

* [[Tom Cruise]] as Ethan Hunt in ''[[Mission: Impossible 3]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* Rookie Kincaid in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* [[Clive Owen]] as Louis Salinger in [[The International]]

* Minneapolis P.D. officers in ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''

* ''[[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]'' (2008)

* Omar in ''[[Traitor]]''

* Mace in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* An assassin in ''[[The Sentinel]]'', fitted with a suppressor.

* Detectives Curtis and Anderson in ''[[Unknown]]''

* Truck driver in ''[[Dreamcatcher]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Dragon Wars: D-War]]''

* [[Andy Whitfield]] as Gabriel in ''[[Gabriel]]'' (dual-wielded with silencers)

* The corrupt police officers hired by Dominic Greene in ''[[Quantum of Solace]]''

* Kansas City Police officers and detectives in ''[[Mad Money]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Chev Chelios, [[Art Hsu]] as Johnny Vang, and LAPD officers in ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]''

* A member of the french national police in ''[[MR 73]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''

* [[Esai Morales]] as Staff Sergeant Stern in ''[[In the Army Now]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Sheriff Pangborn in ''[[Needful Things]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Frankie in ''[[State of Grace]]''

* [[Tengiz Borisoff]] as Josip Barada in ''[[Red Heat]]''

* [[Sue Price]] as Alex Sinclair in ''[[Nemesis 2: Nebula]], [[Nemesis III: Prey Harder]] and [[Nemesis 4: Death Angel]]''

* [[Barry Pepper]] as Mike Norton in ''[[Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The]]''

* [[Ben Kingsley]] as Frank Falenczyk in ''[[You Kill Me]]

* [[Viktor Sukhorukov]] as Victor Bagrov in [[Brother 2#Beretta 92FS|Brother 2]]

* American cops in [[Brother 2#Police weapon on Viktor's detention|Brother 2]]

* [[Ben Kingsley]] as Xavier Fitch and [[Michael Madsen]] as Preston Lennox in ''[[Species]]''

* [[Larry B. Scott]] as Sgt. Charles Biddle in ''[[ Extreme Prejudice]]'' (1987)

* FBI Agents in ''[[In the Line of Duty: The FBI Murders]]'' (continuity error)

==Distinction==
What exactly is the distinction between the Beretta 92F and the 92FS?
:The FS models have a slide retention device on the frame. Here is a pic showing the slide differences. The FS on top, F on the bottom. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Slide.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Variantons we don't have ==

We are lacking:

Beretta 92A1: 17 round mag, and a Picattiny-Similar rail under the barrel

Beretta 96A1: Same as above but is chambered in .40 S&W and haves a 12 round mag

Beretta 92FS type M9A1: Basically a civilian M9A1 --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 01:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

:Unless those weapons have appeared in any movies or TV shows, I'm not sure we need them on this page. Our goal is to document what appears in movies, not to make a comprehensive list of every variant that Beretta has ever made. As a general guideline, we don't add variants/pictures to a page if we have no evidence that they've appeared in any media. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 00:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

2009-12-22T05:08:44Z

Mcguinness: /* Excerpt from Remington 700P */

Ah, goddamnit. I wanted to do this.
Well, maybe i can make it up to IMFDB standards sometime, just '''DON'T''' do Half-Life 2. - [[User:Flying Dane|Flying Dane]]

==Screenshots==
I have a lot of shots for the page and will upload them tommorow. -GM

I've got a crapload of good real pictures for a lot of the guns, but I don't have any clue as to how to upload them, so, for anyone that can, email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

== You know what would have been better? ==

I kinda wished the creators of this game made more guns for us to use. There are so many modern firearms at least they could put in the multiplayer. Like the G36 carrying handle instead of the rail, H&K machineguns, H&K grenade launchers, a full auto M16 in the multiplayer, the option to put every accessory on your primary, like sights, suppressor, and grenade launcher all in one instead of just pick only one. I know they did that for balance, but screw balance. Let's see, what else? The UMP, Mac-10, Glocks (specificly the Glock 18), Drum magazines, AUG, Tavor, SA80/L85A1, L96A1, MP7A1. I know I'm starting to sound like I'm turning the gun choices of COD4 into Rainbow Six, but that's why I like that game a lot because it has SO MANY GUNS to pick from and the option of putting whatever you want. I want the ability to change firing modes, to add and take off suppressors. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

: Not to mention having the actual front sight posts still present on optic-equipped M16s and M4s would have been nice. I realize they probably removed it to give better visibility, but still. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

::Firing selectors would have been nice. Full auto or nothing is kind of lame. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::According to gamers, the military doesn't use semi-automatic (sarcasm). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 09:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

::Well screw hardcore gamers. I have most of the Tom Clancy games and those you can select weapons to semi and auto and even some have bursts mode[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:06,
3 April 2009 (UTC)

:::I agree completely with you. In most situations in-game, I seemingly always find myself tapping the trigger for single shots instead of firing bursts. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

i would have liked to have seen the L96A1 and or the AW50F, as these would have been awesome in cod, also the glock 18, SR-25, and i would have liked to do my own customising of weapons, like on the M16 on the modified version you lose the front sights which just look wrong.

Is ok to put pics on this from other websites. [[User:Drjuki]]

I want a goddamm regular FN FAL and a IMI Galil AR with the wood hand guards. They would be perfect in the hands of terrorists in the game. They already have the G3 why not a FN FAL?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

i would have liked to customised the weapons myself

In my opinion the worst choice of the Infinity Ward was the selection of the MP-44 as "final unlock": is older than the AK-47 and cannot be modified, excepted the selection of the camouiflage painting. Why call the game "Modern Warfare" if the (teorically) ultimate gun is also the oldest???
[[User:Lone Soldier|Lone Soldier]] 03-12-2009

== Desert Eagle ==

what finishes do the Desert Eagles have in the game? IMI lists several variants http://www.magnumresearch.com/CustomFinishes.asp

Just stainless steel, I think. But don't quote me. I never use it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198
the game has chrome and titanium gold.

Stainless steel, as well as gold once you reach level 55.

==P90 comments.==
whoever keeps deleting my edits bugger off, this gun is awesome it is easy to aim and has awesome stopping power, and to say it is weak and inaccurate is just plain rubbish, u would have to be a fool to fail to kill an oppo with this gun

''Have at it, but remember - this is the last time I play nice.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 19:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

this weapon is the fantastic it is very easy to aim it has good stopping power and at close range it is downright lethal

Can't we all play nice?!?! [[User:Drjuki]]

I stopped playing COD4 because of peoples bickering "Thats a noob gun" "you're camping" "that perk sucks"

There is a crowd who all believe what perks everyoe should have and what weapons, Id love to see a game by their rules, it would be boring. So waiting a few minuites behid a corner is camping, and i'm kicked for it, but they can sit in a building with a siper level the whole match? Tehn there is the p90 debate. Let people who like it use it, do't start telling them there a noob and being unfair.

Come on clutch! Don't be so evil on the kid.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Any weapon or perk combination you use to kill an opposing player is deemed "noobish". Anymore I just laugh their rants off and go on with the game. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

I think it's sad people (including myself) stop playing the very good multiplayer because of the other players who just ruin it with loud, abusive talking, silly arguments about trivial matters, and generally making it uncomfortable. [[User:Mcguinness]]

the noobish comment is spot on as if u use something that the other gamers dont like noobish sod that i kill the lot of em, and the silly arguements comment is also right it gets down right annoying

== No Browning M2? ==
Why is there no Browning on the page? It was clearly seen in-game.

== Red Dot Sight ==
The red dot sight on the M4 SOPMOD is a Sure Shot Reflex Sight, not a C-More. [[http://www.afmo.com/Sure_Shot_Reflex_Sight_p/217-00588.htm]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

==The 1911 Griggs used looks more like a Kimber TLE stainless==

About the Springfield 1911 in the game I also think it is a Springfield opposed to a Kimber Warrior because I have one and the grip is a lighter color plus it has a different magazine.

==Excerpt from Remington 700P==
*''"Oddly, the M40A3 also seen in game is very much the same weapon, although in the game they have slightly different attributes."''

I have to agree and disagree with this statement, as they can't be classified "as the same weapon", since the M40A3 has its own model number, designation, and role in the Marine Corps; and was modified from the R700P, one change being the finely rifled heavy barrel. However, both rifles, as mentioned before, are made from the Remington 700 model. I think this should be clarified a bit more clearly. Any thoughts? --''[[User:Blemo|'''B''''''le''''''mo''']] [[Image:Progress Wheel.gif]] [[user talk:Blemo|'''TALK''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|'''CONTRIBUTIONS''']] • [[Special:Emailuser/Blemo|'''EMAIL''']] • '''MESSAGE''''' 12:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Just quick, is the 700p the ltr model or not? Can you tell? [[User:Mcguinness]]

== Bluey? ==
I noticed that some M4's and M16's have "Bluey" on the side. Is there a reason for this? Or just something the designers put in?

*I think it's "Blue 4," possibly to identify who the rifle belongs to in the squad. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

== M4/M16 ==
I added a little more information about how the gas block removal on an M4/M16 would effect the firearm. It is true that is the gas block is removed that the next round will not chamber automatically. the bolt would have to be racked to load a new round. I just thought I'd add that information to the page. It can be removed if desired. [[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

User:Mcguinness

2009-10-13T07:45:18Z

Mcguinness: /* About Me */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old. My favourite movie is Lock, stock and 2 Smoking Barrels.

This is a fun site to come on now and again when i'm bored

My Favourite gun is the [[M14 Rifle]]

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]

[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]

[[M14 Rifle]]

[[Heckler & Koch Mark 23]]

Talk:Grand Theft Auto IV

2009-10-13T07:44:17Z

Mcguinness: /* old gun */

- Just a quick message from the creator, thanks for updating and correcting the article. It looks professional now. Thanks again.

== Colt M4A1 ==

''Total BS, that's got to be a M468/REC7, model design is nothing close to an M4A1''
(comment placed here so as to not clutter up the main article)

:Hi. I've looked at M468 and the REC7, and while, yes, they do bear some resemblance, there are also many differences which distinguish it to not be the weapon used in GTA IV. For example, the foregrip of the M468 is vastly different from the in-game weapon which is cylindrical, much like a stock M4, and does not have the R.I.S foregrip which features on the M468 or REC7. Another difference is that of the front sight, which is upright and fixed, found on the game's version of the weapon (again, like the M4A1) does not feature on either the M468 or REC7. Furthermore, neither the M468 or REC7 have a front sling hoop and the M468 has a shorter barrel than the game's weapon. [[User:Chef Brian|'''''Chef Brian''''']] [[User talk:Chef Brian|Vrooom]] 20:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

::This gun can't be an M468 or a 416 because both those guns have flip up sights. This rifle in game has the standard front sights of an M4. It just has the carrying handle taken off and replaced with an H&K style rear sight. Get pics of a these guns together on one screen and you can really tell the difference. Hell, I'll do it myself

[[Image:Hk416-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch HK416 with 10 inch barrel, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4A1 Carbine - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BarettM468.gif|thumb|none|500px|Barrett M468 6.8 caliber.]]

Now comparing, seeing which one fits the one Niko is using.

[[Image:M4gta.jpg|none|thumb|300px|The M4A1 Carbine]]

Definitely a M4A1 Carbine, The only thing that makes even an argument for it being a 416 is the absence of the carry handle and rear site.
Another thing is the cylindrical AR-15 foregrips (they arent rail covers) I have yet to see a 416 with a cylindrical foregrip. -[[User:AdAstra2009]]
I DON'T THINK SO THE 416 HAS FLIP UP SIGHTS.. ONLY THE M468 DOES. ANYWAY, ITS' SIMPLY AN M4A1 WITH CARRYING HANDLE REMOVED AND DIFFERENT SIGHT

== Lost and Damned Compensated Pistol ==
Definitely a CZ-75 style pistol,looks nothing like a BHP, besides the slide is not tall enough to be a Browning Hi-Power.
[[Image:Cz75.jpg|thumb|none|350px|CZ-75 9mm]]
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerStd.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Browning Hi-Power 9mm]]
[[Image:ColtM1911 1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Shot from the game]]

== HK XM320 ==

From the picture on the official site it looks like the grenade launcher is the XM320's predecessor the HK69. You can tell from where the stock connects to the frame. But we shall see when the game is released if the breach opens to the side or top. It might be a combination gun.

==Lost and Damned Weapons==

Anyone got any new, good pictures of the new weapons from the Lost and Damned? If you have any, post them.

==Glock 17==

It would actually make sense that the regular pistol in the game was a Glock 22. As someone pointed out, the CZ-75, a 9mm pistol, isn't as powerful as the Glock. In addition, we should call it a Glock 22 based on appearance, not specifications. For instance, previous GTA games used a Colt 1911 as the main pistol, despite it having an unrealistic 17 round magazine. Nonetheless, it was a Colt 1911, just like this is clearly a Glock 22.

==AK-47==

Could someone get a good screenshot of the AK-47 in-game and post it.
[[Image:Machine_Gun.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AK-47 in GTA IV]]
:There you go. [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Thanks for the AK-47 screenshot. It looks really good. Now, does anyone have ANY screenshots from the Lost and Damned part of the game? It'd be really cool to see some of the sawn off shotgun and the grenade launcher. I really wanna see what the new guns look like before I download The Lost and The Damned.

Does anyone have any pictures of the Desert Eagle in gameplay? If you have or get any, please post them.

== About the Ithaca 37 ==
The gun in game doesnt look very much like a stakeout at all. you shouldn't base it off of some airsoft gun. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::That's probably what the developers did.-protoAuthor
:::Then I can say that's probably what they didn't do just as easily --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 19:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, unless you know of another gun that looks like the in-game gun, it really IS most likely what the developers did, despite what you think. I mean, just look at the two photos. They are almost exactly the same. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== AK vs M4 ==

Okay, so in GTA IV you've got the AK-47 and M4A1 to choose from, but which is best? Well, the AK seems to have more power, which makes sense, and the M4 is more accurate, which again makes sense. But really, which is a better rifle to use overall?--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 20:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

::I think the M4 has a better rate of fire but i'm not sure.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Thanks to whoever got those kick-ass screenshots of the snipers and desert eagle and the Micro-Uzi. Those shots are pretty damn awesome.

::::No problem :-) -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 20:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::Believe it or not, the AK-47 and the M4A1 do the same damage in SP, and the M4A1 does more in multiplayer. (I know for sure because I've seen the values) Meanwhile, the M4A1 can shoot farther than the AK, which is obviously inaccurate. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 11:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Inaccurate?! you say a 5.56 mm with AR mechanic has a shorter engage range then a russian-made weapon intended to mass-production? the M4 shoots circa 600 meters in real life, and it's a carbine. The M16 hits 800. the ak doesn't hit anything over 150 meters. anyway, I saw values too, and they say are identical, but they're not. The AK has a bit more stopping power, and the M4 is more accurate, has lighter recoil and more action range.

==WTF?==
:I can't seem to get a copy of this game that doesn't freeze up sometimes. I've tried 5 different copies on 2 different 360's and they all froze at some point. I even went and tracked down a brand new copy and it still froze. I'm getting sick and tired of having to do missions over because the freezes before I can save-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 07:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hm. I know there were freezing issues around the launch of the PS3 version due to network load problems, but those were cleared up. Is it possible both the 360s were having disc or hard drive issues? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 15:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. one was a brand new Elite and the other one was in good condition-S&Wshooter

===Heckler & Koch MP5A3===

One of the screenshots from the beta version of the game depict Niko holding a [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with it's stock extended. However, this weapon was removed from the final version of the game, and replaced by the [[MP5#Special_Weapons_MP-10_and_SP-10|MP-10]] .
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with "tropical" (wide) forearm - 9x19mm with stock extended]]
[[Image:gta4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Niko holds a [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] in the beta version of the game.]]

::MP5A3 should be removed -it is not a "non player weapon" it is a weapon that is not even in the game so it is irrelevant. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 01:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree. These weapons aren't counted in any of the other GTA games, so why should we start here? I also think putting in the other weapons that are only in the artwork is irrelevant as well. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:39, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Gay Tony weapons ==

on the official website it appears there will also be an Automag. the AA12 is ejecting green shotgun shells in the trailer, and is shown to be firing Frag12 rounds in the Weazel News special on gun crime in Liberty City.

== Gay Tony FN P90 ==
Is the P90 in The Ballad of Gay Tony a FN PS90 converted to full-auto?--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 16:38, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The barrel on the PS90 is longer and thinner than the one in the game. My guess is it's a suppressor, but we won't find out until the game is released. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

== old gun ==
what i don't understand is why the armourers or people who decide what guns go on the game chose such an out of date pistol. the AMC Automag had stopped prodution ages before the new millenium so why decide to put it in a modern day game, the gun would have been more appropriate for GTA Vice city or Vc Stories since they were set in the mid 80's.
:It's because the Automag looks like it could take a man's head off even if you miss-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:You know, I pride myself on trying to be clever, but I'd be hard-pressed to come up with a better response than that. -protoAuthor 00:50, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah the old adage of "I'm not a good shot but this shoots REALLY big bullets" (courtesy of Hellboy) if that were the case why not a S&W500? the biggest production handgun cartridge. though it only holds 5 shots which many would get angry over in a videogame.

:I'm guessing its because the Automag just looks cool. The S&W 500 just looks like a regular revolver. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:32, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
::Because it's the gun Charles Bronson used in Death Wish 3 to kill hundreds. And Clint Eastwood used in one of the Dirty Harry movies to kill even more hundreds. In other words, it's a badass pistol and deserves to be in the game.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

On a badass scale of 1 to 10, it hits 11. Need more be said? [[User:Mcguinness]]

Talk:Grand Theft Auto IV

2009-10-13T07:43:40Z

Mcguinness: /* old gun */

Talk:Grand Theft Auto IV

2009-10-13T07:43:24Z

Mcguinness: /* old gun */

Talk:Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

2009-09-09T08:49:18Z

Mcguinness: /* P90 comments. */

Ah, goddamnit. I wanted to do this.
Well, maybe i can make it up to IMFDB standards sometime, just '''DON'T''' do Half-Life 2. - [[User:Flying Dane|Flying Dane]]

==Screenshots==
I have a lot of shots for the page and will upload them tommorow. -GM

I've got a crapload of good real pictures for a lot of the guns, but I don't have any clue as to how to upload them, so, for anyone that can, email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

== You know what would have been better? ==

I kinda wished the creators of this game made more guns for us to use. There are so many modern firearms at least they could put in the multiplayer. Like the G36 carrying handle instead of the rail, H&K machineguns, H&K grenade launchers, a full auto M16 in the multiplayer, the option to put every accessory on your primary, like sights, suppressor, and grenade launcher all in one instead of just pick only one. I know they did that for balance, but screw balance. Let's see, what else? The UMP, Mac-10, Glocks (specificly the Glock 18), Drum magazines, AUG, Tavor, SA80/L85A1, L96A1, MP7A1. I know I'm starting to sound like I'm turning the gun choices of COD4 into Rainbow Six, but that's why I like that game a lot because it has SO MANY GUNS to pick from and the option of putting whatever you want. I want the ability to change firing modes, to add and take off suppressors. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

: Not to mention having the actual front sight posts still present on optic-equipped M16s and M4s would have been nice. I realize they probably removed it to give better visibility, but still. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

::Firing selectors would have been nice. Full auto or nothing is kind of lame. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::According to gamers, the military doesn't use semi-automatic (sarcasm). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 09:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

::Well screw hardcore gamers. I have most of the Tom Clancy games and those you can select weapons to semi and auto and even some have bursts mode[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:06,
3 April 2009 (UTC)

:::I agree completely with you. In most situations in-game, I seemingly always find myself tapping the trigger for single shots instead of firing bursts. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

i would have liked to have seen the L96A1 and or the AW50F, as these would have been awesome in cod, also the glock 18, SR-25, and i would have liked to do my own customising of weapons, like on the M16 on the modified version you lose the front sights which just look wrong.

Is ok to put pics on this from other websites. [[User:Drjuki]]

I want a goddamm regular FN FAL and a IMI Galil AR with the wood hand guards. They would be perfect in the hands of terrorists in the game. They already have the G3 why not a FN FAL?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

i would have liked to customised the weapons myself

== Desert Eagle ==

what finishes do the Desert Eagles have in the game? IMI lists several variants http://www.magnumresearch.com/CustomFinishes.asp

Just stainless steel, I think. But don't quote me. I never use it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198
the game has chrome and titanium gold.

==P90 comments.==
whoever keeps deleting my edits bugger off, this gun is awesome it is easy to aim and has awesome stopping power, and to say it is weak and inaccurate is just plain rubbish, u would have to be a fool to fail to kill an oppo with this gun

''Have at it, but remember - this is the last time I play nice.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 19:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

this weapon is the fantastic it is very easy to aim it has good stopping power and at close range it is downright lethal

Can't we all play nice?!?! [[User:Drjuki]]

I stopped playing COD4 because of peoples bickering "Thats a noob gun" "you're camping" "that perk sucks"

There is a crowd who all believe what perks everyoe should have and what weapons, Id love to see a game by their rules, it would be boring. So waiting a few minuites behid a corner is camping, and i'm kicked for it, but they can sit in a building with a siper level the whole match? Tehn there is the p90 debate. Let people who like it use it, do't start telling them there a noob and being unfair.

Come on clutch! Don't be so evil on the kid.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Any weapon or perk combination you use to kill an opposing player is deemed "noobish". Anymore I just laugh their rants off and go on with the game. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

I think it's sad people (including myself) stop playing the very good multiplayer because of the other players who just ruin it with loud, abusive talking, silly arguments about trivial matters, and generally making it uncomfortable. [[User:Mcguinness]]

== No Browning M2? ==
Why is there no Browning on the page? It was clearly seen in-game.

== Red Dot Sight ==
The red dot sight on the M4 SOPMOD is a Sure Shot Reflex Sight, not a C-More. [[http://www.afmo.com/Sure_Shot_Reflex_Sight_p/217-00588.htm]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

==The 1911 Griggs used looks more like a Kimber TLE stainless==

About the Springfield 1911 in the game I also think it is a Springfield opposed to a Kimber Warrior because I have one and the grip is a lighter color plus it has a different magazine.

==Excerpt from Remington 700P==
*''"Oddly, the M40A3 also seen in game is very much the same weapon, although in the game they have slightly different attributes."''

I have to agree and disagree with this statement, as they can't be classified "as the same weapon", since the M40A3 has its own model number, designation, and role in the Marine Corps; and was modified from the R700P, one change being the finely rifled heavy barrel. However, both rifles, as mentioned before, are made from the Remington 700 model. I think this should be clarified a bit more clearly. Any thoughts? --''[[User:Blemo|'''B''''''le''''''mo''']] [[Image:Progress Wheel.gif]] [[user talk:Blemo|'''TALK''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|'''CONTRIBUTIONS''']] • [[Special:Emailuser/Blemo|'''EMAIL''']] • '''MESSAGE''''' 12:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Gunmaster45

2009-08-17T09:40:10Z

Mcguinness: /* Help!/Help Received */

'''Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the ''bottom'' of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks.''' - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Hey==
Sorry about the Brandon Soo Hoo thing. I was busy working on summer school stuff I had to do for the summer. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Future Weapons==
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
==Helicopter in The Marine==
Hey GM,
That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks==
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==Wanted==
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to [[Quantum of Solace]] go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
==Quantum of Solace==
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.

==Dirty Harry==

Just so you know, [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

==1911==

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.

:Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do ''so'' much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?

::It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.

::Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in ''[[Training Day]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]'' don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

==New stuff==

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the [[AK-47]] page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

:I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.

::Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?

:My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.

::OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".

: "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

== Your articles ==

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the ''[[Heat]]'' page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for ''[[Hollow Point]]'' or ''[[Last Action Hero]]'', but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.

:As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

== Current stuff ==

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your ''[[Hollow Point]]'' page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in ''[[The Fugitive]]''.

As far as the grenade launcher in ''[[Hollow Point]]'', it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.

::You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the [[Hollow Point]] page.

I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

==Heat==

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

::It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to ''you''.

::Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.

::From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.

:::So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.

::::All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.

::::Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on ''[[The Rock]]'' page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

==Defense Technologies==

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

[[Image:Federallabs37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (''[[RoboCop 3]]'' is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

== Great Work! ==

Thanks for uploading the poster for the [[Catch a Fire]] page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Response ==

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then [[Bad Boys II]], and it's MoviePropMaster2008's [[District B13]] with 37 guns. [[User: Alienqueen11]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the [[Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem]] page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on [[Toy Soldiers]]. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== About Language ==

Hey, I want to say good work on [[Heartbreak Ridge]], there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, [[User: Bunni|Bunni]], the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

:OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from ''Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels''), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

== MGS4 M1911A1 ==

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgnpNaJ6M0]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== .50 Caliber 1911? ==

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

[[Image:M1.50GI.jpg]]

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

== Nice work on Platoon ==

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)==
..''"how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?" ''
: I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

..''"I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."''
:Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

..''"Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."''
: I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

..''"Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."''
: The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.

::''Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better.'' -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Last Action Hero==
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

== Nice job ==

Hey, nice job on the [[Jurassic Park]] page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put [[A Beautiful Mind]] on your Pages Built list. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Re: Nice Job ==

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. [[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==M1911 shots by MPM2008==
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Uzi ==

About the [[Uzi]] page, you might want to leave a note on [[User: Bunni|Bunni's]] talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Training Day Revolver ==

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes.
Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg]]

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.

==Call of Duty 4 Pictures==

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

:Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'

hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.

Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki

== Re: Saving Private Ryan ==

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).

:Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.

::I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.

:::The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

==Good call on the xXx==
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329774/]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

==Dibbs==
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

== About the screencaps on COD4. ==

How did get them? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re:XXX==

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on ''[[Kelly's Heroes‎]]''. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on ''[[Where Eagles Dare]]''.

==On Kelly's Heroes==
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

==M1911s==
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Are you sure? ==

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

::What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

==Reign of Fire==
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008

==577 pic==
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

== The Punisher ==

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on [[Hard Boiled]] because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The [[Sin City]] talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''Tears of the Sun'' ==

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Re:Tybalts Gun==

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

==Ak recog==
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Jarhead'' M60E3 ==

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the [[M60 machine gun]], it has always had two [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240 machine gun]]s; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The [[Browning M2]] heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==animated gifs==
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.

[[Image:HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif]]
MPM2008

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Reign of Fire==
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

==...==

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008

::Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.

::BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

== Jaws ==

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping [[Jaws]]? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Top Pages ==

Very cool idea - nice work. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping [[Four Brothers]], and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]], so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Jaws]] is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==thanks==

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

[[Image:MyP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.

:As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...

:BTW, very nice job on the ''[[Last Man Standing]]'' page! Though I would recommend maybe being a ''little'' less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==crap==
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==Empty Pages I Created==
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. [[User:CyclopsScott|CyclopsScott]] 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==Western guns==
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hotel Rwanda==
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== The World Is Not Enough (video game) ==

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

==FYI==
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Walther P99 page ==

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

==Hollowpoint==
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

== American Gangster page ==

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

==the subject of "dibbs"==
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.

There you go, I cut the black bars off the [[Hostage]] screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on [[Hot Fuzz]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==fun gun==
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm]]
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Excellent work!! ==

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

==Movies to screengrab==
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

==Remington 870==
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Morita Rifle==
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bangkok Dangerous==
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==tropic thunder==
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==590==
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==You're not gonna believe this==
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==On some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Smokin' Aces ==

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have [[Smokin' Aces]]? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==New screencaps==
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Workload==
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:U.S. Marshals==

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== anonymous users ==

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Molotovs==
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

==Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics==
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)]]

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== the other Glock ==
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

==Alien Nation==
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ''Jingle All the Way'' ==

Thanks for the compliments on ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== The Dark Knight ==

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do [[The Dark Knight]], you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

::I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Got it for you==
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm]]

==T2==
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps on Commando==
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape. ==

You can do it.I don´t mind.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen ==
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

== Re: Scarface ==

I'll try to get more shots for [[Scarface]] when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on [[Mail Call]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.6.6.30]

This made me really pissed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a ''severe'' warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

==24==

Will you be around today to screen cap [[24]] Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on [[24]]. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on [[24]] the page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Lord of War==

Eh, depends. Main question is, how ''many'' additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the ''[[Lord of War]]'' page is one of the site's most popular.

::I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Tyrannasaurus ==

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Godfather ==

Thanks, ''[[The Godfather]]'' is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: The Departed==

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on ''[[Get Smart]]''! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), ''and'' I got two days off from work, ''and'' I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.

:Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Good suggestions! ==

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of ''[[The Getaway (1972)]]'' so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: The Untouchables ==

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Mail Call ==

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

I made some edits to it but they got erased. Why? I'm still working on screencapping yet, i didn't have enough time to add gun pics and you didn't add them. P.S When will you be getting season 3-8? [[User:Drjuki]]

Oh, ok. I thought you ment don't add any seasons since you were going to do that. I didn't know you were going to through the earlier seasons. You know who. Drjuki.

== The Untouchables ==

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

== XXX ==

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in [[Armageddon]], [[XXX]] and [[Death Race]]. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from [[We Were Soldiers]] that we had two miniguns mount on.

== Video Games ==

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

== Iron Man CAR15 ==

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M60E1 machine gun ==

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M1 Garand question ==

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the '''M60''', I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
[[Image:M60SnapShotOnSet.jpg]]
:Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

==Re:Hitman==

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances.
[[User: Charon68]]

==Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" ([[Lance Henriksen]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.]]
[[Image:Remington1875Q&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod ([[Gene Hackman]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.]]
[[Image:Remington1875SilverQ&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.]]

Like it? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I got more, but they're not western related ==
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Replacing some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Your page format==
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==SOCOM Mk 23==
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Hitman==

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gunner313 ==

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Iron Giant'' ==

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shoot 'Em Up.==

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==push==
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Legends of the Fall ==

Hi, I congratulate you for you work!
Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film?
Sorry for my bad english.

== Legends of the Fall (again) ==

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

== shotgun in Thunderball ==

Hey I just posted screenshots from ''[[Thunderball]]'' and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a [[Remington 870]]) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Tanks for your answer ==

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.

==SIG==

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for ''Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft'' (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Rundown==
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are '''not''' what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also '''replace''' any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Blank revolver question==
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shit==

I just did an edit on ''[[The Rundown]]'' while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Norinco SKS Sporter==
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

==Blank revolvers==
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

==The Rundown==
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shootemup==
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Legends of the Fall==
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

==Street Kings==

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the ''[[Street Kings]]'' page. And I literally just mean a few:

*(1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
*(2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
*(3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect.
--[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.

:Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates ([[Common]]) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Unforgiven Shotgun==

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, Check out the photo of the W. Richards that I just posted. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Dust hit gun==
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

==Review on Wanted==
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. '''Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. ''' I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that '''Darth Vader is Luke's father''', some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==watermark==
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
'''Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1'''
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== some Westerns ==

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for ''[[The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford]]'' and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on ''[[American Outlaws]]'' which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: Boondock Saints==

Dude, armory scenes in movies ''always'' suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' or ''[[The Matrix]]''. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an ''extremely'' regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - ''[[Menace II Society]]'' and ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1897==

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Appaloosa==
Hey John
Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
:No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix==
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little ''''squished''''. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-DEa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-Cheetah2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-CheetahA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Admins==
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
::Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

== Speakeasy804 ==

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Need your help here==
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

[[Image:MMS-Twin-Silenced-Pistolsa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]
[[Image:MMS-TwinSilencedPistols2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]

Here are the candidates that people suggested:
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkCamperSS.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmark2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk II - Silenced]]
[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II]]

What do you think? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
::When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith==
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
[[Image:MMS-QuoteCorrect.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.]]
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

==Colt 25?==
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Re: Sgt. York ==
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant==
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Pages Lock Out==
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with [[The Wild Geese]] can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== 1911's and other models. ==

Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an '''old''' cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.

I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned ''seven'' of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.

Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.

However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a [[Webley Mk VI]] - which is my pride and joy.

I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?

Talk to you later. [[Jcordell]]

Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a [[Savage 99]] rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. [[Jcordell]]

== Thanks for your help ==

Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]
Ah - ha! Got it.

The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.

== Winchester Model 1895 ==

I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.

I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== My job here ==

Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Colt Troopers. ==

Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.

==Colt Mustang==
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008

==S&W MkII Hand Ejector==
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

==orphaned image==
What is this from? It's not linked to any page.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg
MPM2008

==Bergmann MP18==
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve

== ''CSI: Miami'' S&W Semi-Auto ID ==

I don't think the pistol shown on ''[[CSI: Miami]]'' is a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5946|S&W 5946]]. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4046|Smith & Wesson 4046]] does have a right-handed safety though. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

==In the Line of Fire Llama==
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve

==XM16E1==

Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve

==Idea for New Page==
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

== M4 vs. M4A1 ==

The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Young Guns ==

Great job with ''[[Young Guns]]''! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't ''something'' they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:: Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.

==RE: RoboCop 2==

Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."

Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== re: Nice Work ==

Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on ''The Untouchables'' page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that!
Also, I'll peruse ''The Godfather'' sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake.
On a different note, great job with the first ''Dirty Harry''. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have ''Casino Royale'' so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get ''Quantum of Solace'' pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is ''Never Say Never Again'' which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with ''Magnum Force'' as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:::I never saw ''Flashpoint'' but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw ''Magnum Force'' is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Gunmaster,
Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman==
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== KAC SR-25 ==

If you read the paragraph at the top of the [[Knight's Armament SR-25]] page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hello other-young-gun-nut ==

I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--[[User:GlocksRevilACP|GlocksRevilACP]] 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Beretta 9000S==
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008

== Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp ==

If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp ''Sudden Impact'' and ''The Dead Pool'' as well because they are pretty weak.

== Hostage Molotovs ==

While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.

:That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.

==Colt 1903 new page==
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT Pistols page==
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
:: Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. ''"No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!"'' So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Last crusade==
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redacted==
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.

::Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM

==Thanks for the reply==
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008

==addendum==
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008

== Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]] ==

You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in [[The Enforcer]]. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]]. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Great. thanks. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question==
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==VIP==
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008

==VIP gun help==
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008

== Diamondback or Python ==

Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping ''[[The Enforcer]]'', so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, ''[[Magnum Force]]''. What do you think? [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in ''[[The Enforcer]]''. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in ''[[Magnum Force]]''. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Outlaw Josey Wales ==

Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?==

Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

==Collateral==
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:: John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
* ''[[Miracle at St. Anna]]'' filling out the page
* ''[[Bullets or Ballots]]''
* ''[[Warbirds]]'' A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
* ''[[Lady Gangster]]''

Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.

==Winchester 1892==
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Category:Flare Pistol==
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks for the assist. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM

==Seecamp==
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008

==RE:==

Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go ''too'' crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the ''[[Belly]]'' AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bourne Identity (1988) ==

Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008

==Did you take this picture?==
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg

== Help ==

How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? [[User:Drjuki]]

Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. [[User:drjuki]]

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'll remember to use move instead, some anonymus user created the page before I tried redirecting it. I know I haven't done any work in a long time, once in awhile I'll find a movie I want to screencap, right now I'm thinking about uploading some extra shots for [[I Am Legend]]. Btw, good job on you most recent pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I found a few good shots in the movie that were missed, although I'm not completely comfortable about replacing someone else's screengrabs, so I might put some screenshots on the talk page for anyone who's more comfortable with replacing them. Also, I've seen Ctone's blog too, and he does a great job, especially with his screenshots. I think I might get started screencapping now since I have alot of free time. Thanks for the Redirect btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I got so far, and I'll be uploading more tomorrow as well. If you have any suggestions for screenshots, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

==Madness Combat==
Does anyone where i could post a madness combat page, i have like tewlve pages filled with guns and I HAVE TO POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Drjuki]]

No i know i can't post them here, i was just wondering if you knew a site where i could. [[User:Drjuki]]

== I Am Legend ==

Sure, I'll get pictures when I put the DVD in.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Call of duty 2 ==

Hey i don't plan these i just add pics if it needsem or add text if it needs em. I don't even have half the games i edit on here. [[User:Drjuki]]

Yes I was. [[User:Drjuki]]

== RE: COD4(DS) ==
Beacause I've seen some site that listed them. IMFDB Isn't the only site that has weapons in Anime, Movies, TV, And Video Games you know. Sure it's the best one but, you know there are some sites. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S The reason I don't write very well is because I am not used to writing without spellcheck, and grammer check. [[User:Drjuki]]

That is a good I will do that. [[User:Drjuki]]

== Pictures ==

I have a question, if there was a movie where a guy got his head blown off but he had a gun in his hand, would users be allowed to take that pic and other gruesome images? [[User:Drjuki]]

Would you be able to tell me a list of pages that have those? Not all them but just the ones you know. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

== Contact Info? ==

Hey GM45, I was wondering, do you have any instant messenger programs or the like? I'd like to chat with you off-site if possible. You can send your contacts to the email address listed on my userpage if you'd prefer to keep from getting spammed. Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey um, i have a website that has a chatroom on it it's kinda a failed project it's not done yet, if so how's may 9th 3:30?
heres the link http://charlietheunicornstuff.synthasite.com/

You know what f**k that [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

==Re:Appaloosa==
Hey John, Glade you like the film I enjoyed it. Most armories will not give credit to the designer or build for fear they client will go direct to the designer next time around. I only have one armory that tells everyone what I build for them. I will work on those 8 Gauge photos this weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Not sure who did the sound for the show. They most likely re-recorded all the gunfire as they plan to make a second movie. That way the will have their own sound library for the next show.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Appaloosa screencaps. ==

Looking forward to your screencaps. It's a great movie and the page has been needing some help. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Probably one of the best westerns I've seen in years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:Hey John, Nice work on the [[Appaloosa]] page. I am going though the build photos for the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] now and hope to post late tonight the photos and some background with them. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

== When we're gone... ==
What are we going to do when are syops and admins start leaving? When we die, (not literally but not go here anymore) what will happen? Will we appoint new ones? (P.S I've helped out every call of duty page, so thats 10 pages!) Or will we just shut down this site? Will we start making pages for Halo and gears of war when lasers come out? Drjuki.

== Flash ==

Could we make a seperate IMFDB for just flash? We could call it IFFDB (Internet Flash Firearms DataBase)? Drjuki.

==Can You use this anywhere?==
[[Image:TaurusPT92-2tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Taurus PT92 Two Tone - 9mm]]
Another MPM 2008 Image.... ;) MPM2008

==More for your Shootem up page==
[[Image:TaurusPT92AF-Reverse2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Reverse Two Tone Taurus PT92AF - 9mm]]
The arm has a reverse two tone gun like this one. I think this image can help. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==blanks==
I am super busy today, but I am going to look at one of our Hollywood blank and perhaps take a pic of how the cardboard wad is constructed and send it off. regards. MPM2008

== Deadwood ==

Hey GM, I just screencapped the first season of ''[[Deadwood]]''. Since you're a pro with that time period, I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a look at all if you have a chance just to check to see if I've been getting things right? Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 21:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about my late response, I've been busy between work and finishing the Deadwood page. It's all done now so I'll go through looking for errors and discrepancies, etc., etc. I appreciate your information added about the S&W Models 1 and 2, which I'll try to sort out once I can find good gun pictures for each to use. In response to grouping the SAAs together, I would do so (as I normally do) but since I took a large number of screencaps, I decided it would be at least a semi-logical way to split it up. The ''[[Joe Kidd]]'' page looks great of course; very interesting to see a C96 used in a Western (although it's a shame they used the typical Hollywood bottomless magazine!) Finally, I'm very impressed by "Gladys" your 1911! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taken==
Go ahead, John. I was planning on going to get it, but a shitload of work just came my way. Happy hunting. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==Joe Kidd==
Hey John, Looking over the Joe Kidd page you built looks nice. I believe that the Colt 1877 Lightning you show in the capture is a Colt 1878 Double Action in 45 Long Colt. Also the Lightning photo you posted in the Lightning page for Kill Bill is a Cimarron Lightning Single Action. If thats the case does that go in the Single Action Army page like the Uberti's? -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, You are correct I would only add strange Uberti, Hartford and others that were used like the Hartford Model Sheriff and Pinkerton that we used in the Streets of Laredo. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Admin ==
Hey how many pages do you have to edit or make to become a admin? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Matrix: Revolutions ==
Hey, I didn't know whether to put this here or on the Matrix page, but I'll put it both places.
I'd kind of like to do M:R but I saw that you had it down on your to do list. It's yours if you want it, but you might have bigger stuff on your plate. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 05:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, go ahead! --[[Special:Contributions/207.108.206.237|207.108.206.237]] 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: your guns ==
I'd never taken a look at your firearm collection before, but did today. You have some awesome stuff. Being a sucker for 1911's I really like Gladys, and the "Spanish Llama XV" guns. This is really not a post of any real value, but damn. Those are amazing.
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood's page ==

Would you have a problem if I began organizing some of the larger actor pages, such as Eastwood's, chronologically and by film to make them easier? I'd leave the same photos and everything but I just feel the pages should be in some sort of order. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 23:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Desert Eagle Love ==

Thanks, and yes, I know that it is a pretty impractical weapon (don't rub it in), but a few folks I know just like that weapon. I'm just a big fan of large caliber weapons, and I'm just one of those few who just, well you know. Anyways, I'm honored to have become a user on this site. P.S. Thanks for the pointer!
- [[User:500Magnum]]

==I owe you an apology on the Model 60==
Well, today I saw the owner of the Model 36 in satin nickel and he said 'that's not in satin nickel. I was talking about another gun. That's stainless', WTF? That's not what I remembered, but oh well. I popped it open and it is still marked Model 36, so I queried more about why it was marked Model 36-2 and he 'forgot' to mention that it was a factory missmark and thus was collectible. So my tirade about the Model 60 being a custom Model 36 seems a bit unnecessary. I showed him the IMFDB site and he basically concurred, there is nothing about that gun that makes it different from a Model 60 other than the weird factory model stamping which no one can see. I'm no S&W expert, but he set me straight and pointed out that I was wrong to complain about others naming it a 'model 60' when for all intents and purposes, it looks just like one. So I owe you an apology regarding the Model 36/Model 60. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== I like your pictures ==

I'd also like to comment on your pictures, and I think those are pretty good. You must have worked hard to get them.
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
What I meant to say was your screencaps were good; excuse me. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

== New IMFDB? ==
This is hyothetical, say there were some movies I liked and I wanted just them on a site. So I make a website with let's say the matrix. now let's say I copied and pasted descriptions and copied pics from imfdb. Would I be able to do that if I say that I got them from Imfdb.org? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 22:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok That wasn't hypothetical, I'd already done it and wanted to make sure I could keep it. Don't worry. I deleted it. no more. I hope you don't sue me for everything i've got. (P.S. I'm only 10 so that won't work very well.) (P.S.S. Why won't you shoot the nambu?

== I am Legend ==

I got the last screenshots for I Am Legend up, and sorry for the really long delay. how does it look now?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and no problem, I'm glad those templates are gone too, I don't understand why Dragon would even use them when they looked bad, plus we never needed them anyway, I mean it's not that hard to make a simple phrase at the top of each page. About the forum, I signed up for it a few months ago, but I lost my password, I'll be sure to sign up for it again eventually since it appears to be really active. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Pineapple Express ==

Thanks for warning me about the widescreen bars. It took a while, but I removed all of the bars on each of the caps I saved. Tommorrow, I'll replace the ones I aleready posted, and continue my work on the page. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep this in mind for my future postings.
--[[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 12:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Comments in Articles ==
I have relocated several comments of yours from the body of the article to the discussion page. All signed comments should be posted in the discussion page. Otherwise, great work, keep it up. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandals ==
What would you do if some one erased mail call. Like they made a account just to vandalise. and if i put sucks on Twilight, would it count as vandalism? P.S can you tell me when you're done with mail call? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't you think you got it when you're done with mail call, could you tell me that you're done on my talk page? (P.S. I've looked at my contributions and i've made 545 edits! sadly none of them are screencaps, so I can't be a admin yet :( and hey I made a spongbob page (for fun) and I can't beleve how fast it dissapeared! could you tell me who and what happened to it? and hey how old were you when you got made an admin and when you joined?) (P.S.S. The reason I didn't make any screencaps is that my dad won't show me the program that we have because he doesn't like guns and sorry I'm asking so many questions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Help with Identifying Guns ==
hi, I was talking to a friend and he said that he saw 2 unusual weapons on CSI, i was wondering if you could tell me whether or not they were real

the first was a gun that, somehow was able to shoot 2 rounds into the same wound whilst only clicking the trigger once. (sorry if its quite vague); and the other was a gun that was known on CSI:Miami as the "Vapouriser", in the show it turned a person into a mist of blood.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 22:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man ==

thanks for the help man, a said to my friend I thought that the "vapouriser" wasnt real, but he was adamant about it.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== "Gladys" ==
: That is one nice 1911 you have there.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Last Boy Scout Page==
I read on page ''The Last Boy Scout'' that you want to restore it. I had not noticed that your message and I have already prepared all the screencaps and some information (work at 50%). Can I prepare that page or want it you? Or you want my screencaps and you write the description because I spoke bad English? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
::I think that your work will certainly be better than mine. I asked you just to know what was your job. If you're ready to upload good work! ^_^ - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Mail Call ==

I know you don't listen to me and use this to make the score bigger, but counting the REPEATS of weapons already establish. The Garand, the M16 repeats at least 3 times and you counted them into the score. That's just stupid. It's like if I take the 4 seasons of the Unit an counted 1 for every time I see a firearm, even though I have already established that we do see it from season 1. I put down M4s, but I don't do it 4 different times because this rifle has appeared in all the seasons, I just put images of how the rifle looks from each season under the M4 category. I label each section, handguns, SMGs, rifles, etc and put weapons under each regardless of the seasons they've appeared in. The format you've done for Mail Call makes it very messy and kind confusing and VERY unnecessarily LONG. I'm not dissing your efforts, I just think you over did it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Commando Tranquilizer Pistol==
Hey John, I noticed on another blog the Bennett had a tranquilizer pistol pointed and Matrix. Do you have a screen capture on this. I would pull it but I don't have the movie. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey John, Thanks for getting that screen cap later it was just miss identified as a Crossman Air Pistol. I figured that I would fix that little error. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Last Boy Scout Page ==

I have some screencps of various weapons that you haven't published in the page. Can I add them or you're still working on the project? I do not want to ruin your work. If you want I can show them before posting. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:I asked you only because I thought you had finished to post all the images. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Deadliest Warrior ==

Can you ID the Colt Revolver on my [[Deadliest Warrior]] page? Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Deleted article ==

Why did you delete the article for Perfect Dark? Was there something wrong with it I should know about? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Taps ==

Was limited in my resources when I first created the page. Thanks for not wiping out my contributions all together (which has happened before)and excellent work on the caps [[ User:Charon68|Charon68]]

==sorry==
I am sorry if you had issues with my categorizing the firearms lists of various pages. I only did so becaues I found it to be more organized on longer articles than the simple listing method used on shorter pages. I agree with you that since I did not write the original article I have no right to completely alter its format. I am sorry I did so and will cease making these changes in the future.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I just recieved your message thanking me for my cooperation. I had no idea that the one undoing all of my changes was the articles original author (I probably should have checked though) and had I been aware would have desisted immediatly. A simple message would have been enough to make me aware of my mistake, therefore the ultimatum included in your first message was both unnecessary and unappreciated. In the future if you could alert me to my mistakes without the use of threats I would be appreciative. I apologize if a sound angry at all (I'm not, nor do bear you any grudge) I was just slightly offended by the manner in which you told me stop changing page format.
:-Anonymous

== Help for new idiot... ==

Gunmaster45,

I saw your edits to a page (Thief) I created. I am very new, so forgive my indiscretions and errors in protocol. I was wondering if it would be possible to explain how to generate the table of contents present on each page. This is the boxed heading at the top of each page showing each gun and when clicked, takes you directly to each section (gun). I wasn't sure if posting this question here is proper, but I haven't found the help area that explains this action.

Thanks for your help in editing, and I have to say your work is excellent and I will strive to emulate your talent here on this site. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help, Gunmaster45! I appreciate your fast response. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Your suggestions for screencap editing are welcome. I will strive to adhere to the protocols in the future. I was using a poor, non-widescreen version for the screencaps. I have the WS DVD on order and will try to capture next week. If you decide to screencap similar scenes in the meantime, have at it! Thanks for the help. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 06:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Picture Assistance==
I have been contributing to this website for a long time and have written several articles and provided additions to many others. However, while I identify gun use in my pages and include pictures of the firearms (taken from other articles on this site) I have never been able to figure out how to upload pictures to this site from outside sources. Any instruction you can provide on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. My computer skills are mediocre to say the least, therefore I would be greatful if you could make the instructions as simple as possible.
:-Anonymous

==Thank You==
I followed your instructions on how to post images from outside sources and found them both easy to comprehend and effective. Thank you for showing me how to do this so that I can greatly improve my articles.
:-Anonymous

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix Screencap==
I noted on the Matrix discussion page that I was conducting a test and had realized that the existing screencaps are distorted, but the image is exactly the same as yours (the exact frame actually). Nothing on the page has changed, other than the fact that it was not uploaded by you. When people change pages, they're actually CHANGING the page, i.e. making the content different. I will only replace screenshots if they're distorted or crap. Yours were not crap, but I noticed that they seemed stretched upwards and I conducted a test to verify that. MPM2008

== Crossfire Trail ==
That would be great. It's a good western made in the older Hollywood style. It was directed by Simon Wincer who also directed [[Lonesome Dove]] I just bought a brand new Dell computer which will allow me to do screencaps, but right now I'm busy with household stuff and it's still sitting in it's box along with the 20" Hi-def screen --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a little research through my ''American Rifleman'' back-issues. Found some useful info about the guns used by [[Tom Selleck]] in his many westerns in the May 2002 issue.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Quigley Down Under ==

All it says is that there were three Shilo Sharps No. 3 rifles in 45-110 manufactured for him to use in the movie. It's my understanding that one of the rifles was donated to the NRA museum by Selleck.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what I figured. Oh by the way I picked up a Luger a few weeks ago. Manufactured in 1916 at the Erfurt goverment arsenal. Shoots like a champ.Here is a so-so picture I took.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There it is. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Luger One.JPG|thumb|350px|none]]

== Cool Guns ==

I've long considered the Luger P08, Mauser C96 Broomhandle, and the Webley Mk VI revolver to be "cool" handguns. Oh sure there are better handguns out there and certainly more modern handguns, but that itn't the point. Since I was your age (really) I have wanted an example of those three handguns. I now own a Webley Mk VI and a Luger. Perhaps one of these days I'll get a Broomhandle. We'll see. Your dad has a nice Luger there by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your dad has the C96 carbine? Partner you absolutely have to get a photo of that sucker posted. Lucky S.O.B. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==I see you replaced my pic==
And it wouldn't be so bad if your pic was better, but it's not. The contrast ratio is still 'muddy' and color saturation is still weaker. I thought you were more mature than this. I guess I was wrong. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==my apologies==
Like usual, you have a good (and mature beyond your years) explanation for your actions. I apologize. I must keep remembering that you are not like 99% of the guys .. ON the internet ... most of whom are petty. I see so much pettiness on the net that I sometimes forget that this is not the case everyone. THANKS for the explanation. And again, I apologize :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Matrix Reloaded==

I see you're re-vamping the page. Well and done, and good work so far. But I beg of you...please try and limit yourself to 5 screencaps per gun? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:What I would recommend if you have shots that look cool but you've reached the limit is to post them on the discussion page for other people to look at. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Call of duty ==

Hey i found some pics that i could use to TOTALLY revamp COD2, COD4, COD5, and soon MW2. If you could Ok it that would be great. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey i hope you saw COD2 took me all night. P.S. i'm done with COD4 it's awesome, and tommorow i'll work on COD4 (DS), and COD5. P.S.S. great job on The Matrix Revolutions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Screencap assisstance==
I am a little confused on what it is necessary to obtain sceencaps. I am under the impression that specific software is required inorder to play movies in a manner so that screencaps be taken. If that is the case where can this software be obtained.
:-Anonymous

==Payback edit mistake==
I recently viewed the changes you made to the ''[[Payback]]'' article. While I agree completely with your eliminating the Smith & Wesson model 29 and 28 sections and replacing them with one section on the model 27, I noticed that you got rid of the section on the Beretta 92 Porter uses akimbo with his 27. This weapon was definitely present in the film therefore I am confused as to why you omitted it. I have not changed this myself for fear I might accidentally undo some addition or correction.
:-Anonymous

==Commentary==
I always love your commentary, GM. -protoAuthor

==Payback response==
I contacted you immediately after noticing the omission. I checked the article shortly after finishing my message and noticed the change but did not have time to negate my comment before you responded.
:-Anonymous

==Payback again==
I noticed that you eliminated the section on the Smith & Wesson model 38. I am not necessarily disputing your actions I just don't entirely understand it because it looked like the gun was used based on the screencaps that were included.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
Sorry
:-Anonymous

==New Template==
Concerning the new template used to categorize information on recent actor articles, I was wondering whether existing articles would be retroactively changed to fit the new format or if it will be required on future pages.
:-Anonymous

== Payback Page ==

I know that the pages I do are horrible and very bad and I have no objection if someone restores this works, I'm even glad of it, but it was nice to be informed before the repubblication that 8 hours of my work are destroyed. Good job anyway. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:If you've forgotten to advice me it means that there is no problem. I misunderstood your action. It's all ok. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Gran Torino ==

Hey GM45, Great work on Payback, it looks awesome. I also would like to know when you plan on screencapping [[Gran Torino]]? Because it's a good movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it's page completed. I'm not trying to rush you or anything, I'm just curious.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday ==
Your birthday is on the 27th? Mine is on the 30th! It is quite funny how they are so close together.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
I am sorry I made such amateur mistake, considering how similar the two guns are in most aspects I did not think that such a crucial difference existed. You were certainly in the right to remove my comment and I greatly appreciate your explaining the reason to me. On another subject, I was curious if you could get back to me on the Template question I posted 4 sections above.
:-Anonymous

==Template Comment==
Actually, I rather don't care for the new template. I looked at the text in the editing and saw that it is extremely complicated to create. In addition, while the new system presents more information in a more organized fashion, I find it less aesthetically pleasing that the older, simpler format. While I have no problem with the new template being used, I contacted you because I was hoping that contributors who prefer could still create articles using the older format.
:-Anonymous

==Template==
I understand that people will use the new template and have no problem with that. However, I am worried that it will be retroactivly applied to existing articles whether or not article's contributors approve.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Per the anonymous user's comment, (since I can't reply to him) The template only applies to ACTOR pages and Gun pages. No one user has ownership of an Actor page or gun page. Users have 'some' rights over MOVIE/TELEVISION/ANIME/VG pages that they have worked hard on, but that's only a courtesy. If something is horrendously wrong, like a new user creates a hideous page, they have no right to keep a stupid page (like the guy who put 'The Ring'' as a page, WTF?). MPM2008

== Another opinion on new template ==
I don't like it. And personally I don't think I'm going to use it on pages I start. Guess that's me just being an old asshole. sorry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're right. Just being muleheaded.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy early Birthday ==

Thanks GM, I was just wondering, Happy birthday in advance by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

==Payback yet again==
I noticed you removed all of my responses on the ''[[Payback]]'' page to your comments about mistakes the characters or filmmakers made. I realize that my comments made the text about the images rather lengthy and I apologize if they made you feel that I was being overly critical of you, but the reason I wrote them was because ''Payback'' is one of my favorite films and I felt the need to defend it when any justification could be made for its errors. I do not intend to replace my comments, however, deleting them while entirely disregarding the arguments they presented (my Walther-Bersa feature mistake excepted) seems a little discourteous. Once again I am sorry for giving you so much grief over this page the last couple of weeks, but as I stated this is one of my favorite films and I just wanted to see it done justice.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I realize you enjoy pointing out the gun-related errors films make (I really do as well to be honest) and I have no issue with that whatever. In fact, the majority of your criticisms I left alone because I found them to be fully justified. The only comments I made were pertaining to mistakes I thought could justified such as missing at a close distance because the target is concealed or useing a poor grip because the size and location of a target make a hit guaranteed. I know some of the excuses have shaky foundations, but sense I enjoy the film so much I have been grasping at straws to vindicate it. I don't mind your removing them so much as I hope you at least considered what they said first. I will try to stop beating a dead horse and refrain from further commenting on this film, however I am not entirely sure I can restrain myself. ;)
:-Anonymous

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, I did notice you were using the template on the Actors pages it looks good with the info all cleaned up. I will note down about the boxed template and see what everyone else says. That's a good idea of your to clean up the Test page so everyone can use it for cut and paste. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

That does look good with the boxes on the [[Daniel Roebuck]] page. We'll have to see what the others say on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey John, My newest entry I have posted at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]] you might like it also.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Weeds Desert Eagle ==

Are you sure that it is a .44 Magnum. I own one and it is what I originally had listed but reading up I found that it was a .357. I will double check.

== RE:Frackyou ==
I saw on the Mail Call discussion page and was wondering what was the Taunting User Name? Oh and P.S. I hate little F***ers who do that to. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight actors ==
WTF? Why do we have Actor pages for them didn't use any guns? Who even pu them up their? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Deleted Article Question==
As an administrator I was hoping you could answer a question I had regarding some deleted articles. I noticed recently that the Television pages for ''American Dad'', ''Family Guy'', and ''The Simpsons'' had all been deleted. This seemed logical as animated programs such as these may not provide detailed enough images of firearms to definitively say what weapons the images were supposed to represent making these pages rather out of place on this website. However I noticed that the article for ''[[King of the Hill]]'' still exists which has better animation quality, yet still seems to have some of the issues as other animated pages. In addition, there are many other articles mostly on older video games and some animated works that have these problems. Why is it some questionable articles are deleted while others remain? I am not complaining about the decisions made, I am just curious about the process that leads to an articles deletion.
:-Anonymous

== True Lies ==

Thanks, and sure. I don't know why the widescreen for that movie is like that, same thing happens to [[Armageddon]], and [[Broken Arrow]]. If you can get better screenshots, then sure, go for it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Fantastic new caps from ''[[Public Enemies]]''! I'm definitely going for the first day it comes out, I'm a huge Mann fan as well (since you said it, I figure it won't sound as bad if I did haha) and I did a report on Dillinger in 7th grade and I've been fascinated with all that since then. I sure hope my teachers weren't worried about me after that :-/ Anyway, especially good call identifying the .38 Super M1911A1 machine pistol that Dillinger used. I'm really glad Mann used that, as neither of the other Dillinger films I've seen had it! If only there was a way we could share duties capping that when it's out on DVD. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 04:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Haha, thanks I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll get a ton of good shots but you always add so much to the pages that as I'm putting them on, you'll have valuable input to help. I'll be watching both the 1945 and 1973 Dillinger movies the night before, I guess to try and make it my own kind of marathon? Had you seen either, I definitely recommend the '73 version especially with Warren Oates and the great John Milius directing it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::One book that does a great job is the ''Public Enemies'' book written by Bryan Burroughs, it covers Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, and the Barker-Karpis Gang. Really a very interesting book with a ton of stuff if you're looking to check some of the accuracy of the movie. I read the script actually (a few months ago so it'd still be pretty fresh) and I think they took a few liberties with ''who'' was involved with the gang and when they were captured/died/etc., but with things like that it might progress the story in their favor to have it play out a different way. I'm just glad that PE will be featuring a wide variety of guns as well. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Also, happy birthday! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vacancy ==

Thanks for all corrections to the page. I use to put the Screencaps in that way because first I showing good the main actor with the weapon and then the others. But I have no problem to applied the caps in a different way.

== CODWAW ==
Finally done! Tell me what you think. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Ad Question==
I noticed the wide variety of new advertisers on this site. I am slightly confused over some of the new sponsers. While many of the ads are not surprising, I have seen ads promoting cosmetics and high-heeled shoes. Are these people unaware of the demographic this site caters to or are the ads simply generated randomly.
:-Anonymous

== RE: New profile picture ==
Quite the badass GM! Don't let anybody tell you akimbo isn't cool. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, if Hugo Weaving is coming at you, it's a good idea to throw out as much lead as you can, eh?
::I'm just yankin' your chain man! ;) --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Anytime you get a bunch of young guys in a group, their IQ goes way down. I've found myself doing dumb things(thankfully not with firearms) while in groups. Good luck with that! --[[Special:Contributions/75.175.64.56|75.175.64.56]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday ==

Hey GM45, just wanted to say Happy Birthday, I hope you're enjoying it and got everything you wanted. Thanks for your work on AvP by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on [[Gran Torino]], it is a good movie. Awesome work on [[Freddy vs. Jason]] too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
For your help on the Goldeneye/BDA/BDM thing.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's already been done-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I saw that, I edited the BDA pictures back to 600, but they got changed. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::oh yeah, i have a good sized moniter, but those jsut they appear too large.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Don't touch the SEALS page==
I have the screencaps that were left over from the first pass. I just haven't put them on yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Tightrope==
Hey John, I am checking to see if you have the Eastwood movie Tightrope. Let me know as I my need a screencap off of it. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 04:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I will PM you over on the forum for the answer. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: What did you think? ==

First off, I loved it. I feel like Mann really put a lot into this one (as well as the cast/crew, etc., giving credit where it's due of course) but I was incredibly impressed. I feel like they had done extensive research and used that to make the story so good. Like you said, the creative license with Nelson/Floyd/killings during Michigan City jailbreak/etc. may have been wrong but I feel like it did help to move the story forward for viewers not quite as knowledgable to the rest story as people like us ;)

Mann also proved that just because a movie takes place in the 1930s doesn't mean you only need to have 1911s and Thompsons. I noticed a bunch of the guns you had, such as the 1903A3s. I didn't get as good a look at the Winchesters, like the one used to wound Dillinger (I think the guy who wounded him in real life was John Shipley but I don't quite recall. I think the Sioux City bank robbery in the film was a mix of Dillinger's three 1934 bank robberies after his escape). I noticed a lot of revolvers, like the Colts you mentioned. I think I saw some with Smith & Wesson grips at one point but I can't remember when it was. I'm sure I'll go again to see it at some point this weekend so I'll be more eagle-eyed. Although I had especially noticed the shot of the Thompson during the Racine robbery and thought "that'd be GREAT for imfdb!" as well as a bunch of other shots. Amazing what this website does for the movie-watching experience haha

I was trying to do some shot-counting but it became difficult for me to sometimes discern who was shooting. But I agree; Bale looked steel-eyed when he was firing his 1911 at Nelson (also I noticed he kicked what looked like a nickel 1911 out of Pretty Boy Floyd's hand; I heard/read that the only nickel 1911s around during that era were the ones chambered in .38 Super. Do you know if this is true?)

Anyway I hope you enjoyed it, I know I certainly did. My friends were a bit confused by who the characters were exactly (which I could understand, Mann went right into the story!) but I was blown away! Another good (but long!) book to pick up if you have the time is a book called DILLINGER by William J. Helmer I believe. It goes very indepth into the story. The last couple summers my friends and I have been working on making our own ''Pretty Boy Floyd'' film but now it's gonna be pretty tough to avoid copying almost directly from PE! Hope I didn't ramble too much here - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

:Now that would be impressive! What all would you need to convert one to resemble, if not operate, like the one Dillinger had? Also I was just remembering the early scene in which Dillinger disassembled the Thompson - do you happen to recall if they showed Depp doing it himself or if they cut to just a set of hands? I'm just curious as to whether or not he had done it himself; Mann seems to make sure his actors are well trained with firearms (notably Cruise in ''[[Collateral]]'' of course). Also, I just found this interesting message board thread while browsing imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/board/flat/141781630. Covers a bunch of the accuracy things we were talking about. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Public Enemies==
Hey John, Lets see if I can fill in some of the gaps on this. I restore the weapons for Gibbons Ltd used by John Depp and weapons were also supplied by ISS.
* Johnny Depp's Colt 1911A1's were chambered for .45 ACP blanks they represented the real Dillinger's Colt 38 Supers. As of this time there are no 38 Super weapons or blanks in the industry.
* 1928A1 Thompsons the way we have them listed in everything is an error that I have yet figured out how to resolve. The weapons on the show are whats called a 1928 which is the same externally as a 1921 the difference is internal with a heavier actuator to reduce the cyclic rate of the weapon. The horizontal forends were offered on both 1921 and 1921 models of the Thompson. The 1928A1 is a World War II Thompson that had several shortcut in it to increase production during the war and were built by Savage and Auto Ordnance. The first short cut was no more commercial finish on the weapon then the fins were left of the barrel, The rear sight was changed to stamped L shape and not Cutt's comp was the final mod before production switch to the M1. Also if you notice when I have done pages with a Thompson in it the title is Colt 1921A or 1921 AC. The A is for a Thompson without a Cutt's compensator on it and AC is with a Cutt's. For the show there were Colt 1921's (Same weapon from Indy IV) with 1928 internals, 1928A1's refinished to look like a 1921 (Polished Blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built by for the show.
*1903 Colt Pocket Hammer was sent to the production it is unknown if it was used or it was used and the scene was cut.
*Revolvers I know that both the Colt Detectives and Colt Official Police were shipped on the show. I will see if I can help out on the on Saturday when I see the film.
*38 Super Machine Pistol used in the movie was chambered in 9mm blank as 38 Super is not carried by the industry. The weapons was built by ISS for the film.
*BAR these were supplied by Gibbons Ltd and were modified in the Bonny & Clyde configuration by another gunsmith for Gibbons Ltd.

:Hope the answered some of your question by as all things it probably created more. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::John,

::I'm pretty sure that the 1903 Colt Pocket was the gun that Dillinger used for about the last third of the film, in place of the 1911 he had carried earlier. It's the gun he takes with him to the theater and then tries to draw before he gets killed by Purvis and the other agents. I have no idea how accurate this is in real life.

::If some of the guns (including the machine pistol) were supplied by ISS, I might be able to ask my contact at ISS if he can tell me more about that gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Depp had the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer in the Tucson hotel scene. It was brief as Depp sets it down on the table and you can see the tab for the mag catch. But would need to see it on DVD to be sure. Did see a whole was full of Colt Official Police in the Crown Point jail vault. Also the machine gun out side of Crown Point was a Colt Model 1928 Light Machine Gun. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Oops, sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. But I will e-mail ISS and ask. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hard to kill==

::John,

::I got a question to ask. Do you have ''[[Hard to kill]]'' on DVD? If you do, say so. -[[User:speedfilmltd]]

== FC2 SVD ==

By the looks of things it's a bit of both; the forend has twin holes halfway up like the FPK, but it's shaped like the SVD's and the exposed part of the gas piston is smaller like the SVD's, too; other SVD features are things like the cheek pad, the kink in the fire mode switch as opposed to the AK-like switch on the FPK, and so on. Though the weirdest feature the FC2 SVD has is a duckbill three-point flash suppressor like it's an early M16. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

*Actually, I don't think humour in articles is really a bad thing even for a wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Humor this] is a good summary of why. Indeed, I think the Payback article is how all our articles should be; describing how the weapons are shown as well as which ones they are is far more informative and fits in with this Wiki's overall principle of educating readers about firearms in movies. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== sound effects ==

Hey I was just wondering if you knew of a good website from which I could download some good firing sound effects for a movie I'm doing/editing. Preferably there would be sounds for a Thompson (with the higher ROF on the earlier models) and a .44-40 Winchester, as well as pistols. I had considered trying to get some sounds from Youtube but they didn't sound crisp enough when I added them to the film. No big deal, but I was just curious if you knew of anything. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's actually a very good idea to borrow from movies like that, I wish I had thought of it! I might be able to get some crisp Thompson sound shots from ''Dillinger'' or ''Miller's Crossing''. (I'd use ''Public Enemies'' but unfortunately that's not out on DVD yet.) I've been trying to find some sort of BAR to use in mine but I'm afraid I might have to give up on that :-/ Good luck on yours as well - what's it about, if I may ask? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 08:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Shadow==
Hey John, Thanks for the nice words. The Shadow was my first film working in the Industry so it has a special place in my heart. Those custom built Grizzlies were the loudest pistol I have ever tested. I am going to call the owner of them next week and see if I can get a photo of them for IMFDB. I am uploading a special photo tomorrow I know you will like. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 07:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:The Grizzlies in 45 Win Mag were loud with hearing protection on. The Thompsons used on the set started out as Colt 1921's when Tim Curry was firing them but when we switched to the bridge scene the flash did not appear on camera. The cyclic rate on a 1921 was to just fast enough to not show completely on film so we went to the Colt 1928 Thompson we had on hand and the Colt 1921 became a backup. Also on the bridge scene the actor that fired the Thompson tossed away a Smith & Wesson M&P Snub Nose. On the pistols for the head on shot I would have to check and see if I have the paperwork for those. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Forrest Gump ==
Do it. You're much better than me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Mask 1911 ==
This is true, the only real difference is those cocking serrations. To me it has more features common to the CGNM. Most noticeably is the sight rib, with is a part of the slide. I have yet to see this on any other colt variant with the exception of the AMT Hardballer. It is possible that it's a custom series 70, but it's also a possibility that it's an older custom GCNM.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Well I do not know for sure. I have yet to find information on the older (pre series -70). In the mean time, I think the best thing to do, would be to call it a Custom Match Grade Series '70 Colt, because everything on there lends credence to it being a Match grade firearm. I will look for older models though. What do you think? btw, is it just me or does the second picture look like a commander sized gun? The distance from muzzle to the tip of the frame seems too short for a standard. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:Hey John, I agree with that it is not a Gold Cup National Match. Those sights look like a Millet copy of the Novak. The markings on the slide appears to be a Mark IV Series 70 Government Model. So I believe it's a Colt Mark IV Series 70 Government Model with Millet sights. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:::Yeah after some reasearch this is not the NM as I had thought. That D*** sight rib threw me off, never seen another Colt with that, and the markings are a Series 70 (or later) and no series 70 NM had straight serrations. I somewhat think this was a Colt custom shop gun. Sorry, you were right man. But if you change it back please make note it has been customized to hell. Lol, for what was probably paid for the custom job, that gun;s owner probably could have just bought a NM-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:::: Oh that's nice, but don't tell me that, to me a Gold Cup is the epitome of a Colt, and I hate seeing their part's scattered. Granted mine has different grips and grip safety but I didn't do that to it. And Thanks.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== SIG P220 page==

Hey, thanks for working on the SIG P220 series page. One thing, though...the way the format works is that we arrange the movies by date, from most recent to least recent. Also, ditch the parentheses around the year. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Layout Format==
Hey John, Go ahead and try it out to see what everyone thinks. It can be changed back by changing a number. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Talk page archives==
Hey man, I just thought I'd drop you and line and suggest that you seperate the older messages on your talk page into one or more archives. This is the way I do it:
* Create a '''sub-page''' to use as an archive. For example, at [[User_talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1]], and move the text you want to archive there.
* Add the following code to the top of your main talk page, to link to the archive or archives: <nowiki> <div align=right style="float:right;font-size:100%;">'''Archived talk:''' [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1|1]], [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive2|2]] etc.</div> </nowiki>
* Adding a note at the top of the archive pointing out that it's not to be used for discussion, as well as a link back to the main talk page, is good idea as well.
Should make this a lot easier to read. :)--[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 18:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

::The size difference would be negligible, since most of it is only text, but; that's up to you.

::Also, I don't know what the established thing is here, but on every other wiki I've been to it's customary to reply to a message on your own talk page (where the conversation was started), doing it that way it makes it a lot easier to follow the conversation, because it's not spread across pages. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 07:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
*On every Wiki I've been on it's the opposite, because it means the other person recieves the 'you have new messages' notification. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

==Glocks==

I asked about this on another forum a few months back. The answer is...there's no consensus. Some of the Glock fans I talked to told me that the Glock "Generations" refer to the styling only (meaning, any Glock that has rails and finger grooves is a 3rd Gen, while no rails and checked backstraps is 2nd Gen, etc.), while others told me that it does indeed refer to specific models (meaning, a Glock 17 with rails is a 3rd Gen, but a Glock 22 with the same style frame is only 2nd Gen). From what I gather, Glock themselves haven't really taken a specific position on the matter. Also, I have Gun Digest issues from 1999-2000 (when the rail frame/finger grooves models were introduced), and the advertisements for Glocks in them don't make any references to "3rd Generation" or "2nd Generation". So, from what I can tell, the "Generation" nomenclature was invented by fans, not by the company.

Long story short...I stopped caring how people described them, which is why I haven't reverted changes by other users, but I guess the first way of doing it (associating Generations with the styling only) is much easier and makes enough sense. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
==Crimson Rivers==
Thanks for redirecting the page for me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
==Total agreement==
Yeah, I hate pocket pistols too. Due to the fact that I have what amount to bear paws, a full size M1911 would actually suit me better as a pocket gun. Also, the absence of an M4 and FAL in Rainbow Six:Vegas/ Vegas 2 pissed me off-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Modern Warfare 2 ==
I just heard that Modern Warfare 2 has been changed to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 by activision. so could you change the name back, because I can't. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 18:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Glad you like them! And yes, I'm excited to see the other guns, too. There were some pretty rare pieces used in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thinking of adding a brief forward to the Far Cry 2 article ==

As you might have noticed, it's almost finished and I'll have any remaining images tonight. I was thinking of adding a brief introduction it, just explaining firstly the game, then a subheading explaining how the inventory system works and the player actually ''gets'' weapons in the game, since our pages on movies tend to include a shot of how a character first acquires a weapon if there is one [say, Arnie talking to the gun store owner in ''Terminator'']. Seem ok? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Saw ==
I know this'll sound stupid but I'm really squemish and was wondering if any of the saw movies have screen caps. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 20:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== My crack at an incomplete template: ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Template:Incomplete

How's it look? Also, could I request you protect Far Cry 2 now? It's done barring me figuring out any way to jam the flare gun, which seems unlikely since it doesn't even have an idle animation. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Sure! I can ask. Only thing is, does your Dad intend to register the pistol under the NFA? Because I'm pretty sure a pistol with a vertical grip is a Class III AOW. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Found a capture program ==
Power DVD. It's pretty cool. Although the screens look a little dark at times. -protoAuthor

==RE: Face/Off==
Love the page - it turned out great. Caught a lot of guns that I missed when I cleaned it up some a while back (I tend to focus on the "big" guns). You had me for a minute with Eve and Jamie, though...for a second, I thought that your eyes were going bad. :P In somewhat unrelated news, do you plan on redoing the Miami Vice page? I know that's not your favorite movie, but that page is almost begging for some great screencaps...especially the SIG 552. I'd do it, but my software ain't up to snuff. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 01:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

==Pirates==
Feel free to turn it into a decent page. I'm just sick of all these pages made without an ounce of effort in them. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==Armsel Striker page==
John,Someone really messed up the Armsel Stiker page and I'm going to try and fix it. Please protect the page as I don't want to have to fix things again. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Smith & Wesson hammers==
I don't know whether or not you have the answer to this question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I was doing some reading recently and learned Colt's Positive Lock safety, separating the hammer from the firing pin to prevent accidental discharge, was developed fairly early in the twentieth century and applied to Colt revolvers, however, many Smith & Wesson revolvers continued to use the simple spiked hammer design for decades. I was currious if you knew when, if ever, S&W adopted a safer mechanism for their revolvers and if you had any details about the design.
:-Anonymous

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the pin on the hammer of Porter's model 27.]]

==The grip on the Colt 38 Super==

Hey, my contact got back to me on the Colt 38 Super machine pistol from ''[[Public Enemies]]''. I asked him how the rail for the grip was attached to the frame, and he said this:

''"[T]he rail was semi permanently added with some small screws. The screws can be removed from the rail but where they anchored into the frame---those marks will still be there."''

Hope that answers the question. Also, check these out (make sure you click on them all the way, to see how big they are):

[[Image:PBreak-00055.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00056.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00061.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I'm finally going to re-vamp ''[[Point Break]]'', either tonight or tomorrow. It'll be the first movie I've ever done using Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Mislabled team in Transformers ==

I just wanted to let you know you mislabled Cpt. Lennox(Josh Duhamel)'s team As "Ranger". They are not a "Ranger" team they are a Combat Applications Group or as most people know them, A Delta Force unit. I just wanted to let you know, thanks.

==Re:==

Hey, GM, that does indeed look better, and I would love to be able to do the same with the rest of my screencaps. What software do you use? Photoshop?

Unfortunately, one thing I'm starting to realize is that even if I do use Blu-Ray, I won't be able to take screencaps that look quite as good as the disc player is capable of generating. On my HDTV, ''[[Point Break]]'' on Blu-Ray looks very good, but on my laptop, it doesn't come out nearly as well. You may have noticed, for instance, that the resolution of these is only 1166x528 pixels even though the resolution on the disc is 1280x720. This is either due to the limits of VLC Media Player, or my laptop's graphics hardware, or maybe both. And it also may explain why the images aren't quite as sharp as they could be. So if I can edit them manually, I will gladly do so to get the most out of having Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, John, thanks for the offer. I will check out Paint Shop Pro when I have time. Right now, though, I actually haven't had much time to work on ''[[Point Break]]'', either last night or today. I'm probably not going to be doing any more work on this site because I'm celebrating my birthday tonight (which was yesterday), and I have to start working on a term paper tomorrow. But I think I can probably figure it out. I'll make sure to contact you if I have trouble achieving the same effect.

:Also, I tried playing ''[[Push]]'' in Blu Ray on my laptop, and much to my disappointment, it looks WAY worse when I use the screencap function on VLC Media Player (the screencaps come out semi-pixalated). I'm beginning to think it really is an issue with the player and that I'm going to need to find a better screencapping software. VLC just doesn't seem to handle Blu Ray very well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

== Deletion request ==

Can you deleted [[Talk:"BFG"]]? I can't move the talk page there while it still exists, even if it's blank. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== Blackout's minigun ==

I can't see the weapon you're referring to in the two screencaps, are you looking at his refueling probe? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's probably talking about the two gun positions on the sides that a Blackhawk tends to have. Also, out of curiousity; I wrote that extra section on Brawl because he's basically a giant prop, which I think fits in with the general idea of this Wiki to say what's a real weapon and what isn't. Just wondering why it's moved to the talk page? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::Looking at it, it ''does'' look like a Vulcan; the barrels look like they're tapering inwards towards the muzzle in both those shots, though the barrel clamps are a little off. Brawl's would probably be whatever Blackout's is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:Incidentally, what do you think of the BFG page now? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::I've edited the note on the BFR to clear that up a little; "BFR" is obviously a reference to the true meaning of the "BFG" acronym, even though the guns themselves aren't anything like the ''Doom'' one. I tried right-aligned images, but they either aren't lined up, or if they are add a lot of big empty spaces to the article. Also changed the tables, I like yours better. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

==MG42==
Did the Germans use MG42s in X-Men origins Wolverine? You removed MG42 section and I'm not sure if it's the same bunker in other shots. And are bootleg pics allowed? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Neon Genesis Evangelion: Glock 17==

Thanks for pointing that out; I don't understand too well because it says that Glock 17 has "a safety" but then says it doesn't: please explain more clearly (not here, on my user talk page; I don't check in very frequently...or on the Evangelion page). My bad understanding after reading through this is that "the Glock 17 doesn't have an external safety switch, it's got an automatic safety on the trigger so it only fires if you pull the trigger properly; the English dub inserting a line where a character says "safety off" while looking at his glock makes no sense, because there IS no external safety-switch" - is that correct?--[[User:V|V]] 21:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

==Could you help me delete some unnecessary pictures?==
Some arse (aka my brother) got on my account while I was away from it temporarily to do something, and he managed to upload two "unnecessary" images before I got back and chastised him. Could you manage to get them off? If you look at my uploads, it should be obvious which ones shouldn't be there. Thanks! (Dang it forgot this!) -[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 20:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Don't worry John. Matthew took care of it. It was Two pictures oof some beautiful women that T-55's brother put up in his profile. The Women were only in their underwear. Nothing pornographic.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
==Another quote you might enjoy==
:I was talking to my friend last night and I had this to say:''' I held a Glock 22 yesterday (July 20th, 2009) and it felt EXACTLY like an airsoft gun'''. I thought it was funny enough to add to my profile-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
== Yard Work? ==
What the hell?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:Good. I though you were going to help build a house for 2 bucks a hour or something. Now i will leave you to work on Watchmen and sleep. Good night.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Ban==
A user suggested that we ban Lisle202 for a week to teach him a lesson. Is that good? Lisle202 posted bad comments on my talk page. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] ( - )
*Also Lisle202 posted this in [[Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]: "Was das? Das sieht nicht wie ein M1911A1!" I don't know what that language is and what he is saying. This means that Lisle202's grammer is poor as he can speak German and English is his first language. He probably learned from movies like the message posted on my talk. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
:::Kenny99 needs to watch more WW2 movies ;) I barely speak German but even I know that's ''"What's that? That does not look like a M1911A1!"'' ;) regards MPM2008 (''Dieses ist NICHT eine deutschsprachige Web site. Es ist eine englische Sprachenweb site. '') ;)

*Crysis helped me figure out he's peaking German before the second comment. [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
*I'm going to use Translate to tell him to leave as this is english,not German site. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*I'm sorry that this happened. Lisle202 probably doesn't understand what's a bootleg and posted it on X-Men. Then I have to stop him, and we all got into this mess. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Meine Antwort==

Ja, ich verstehe. Ich habe nie davon gehört einer Bootleg vor. - [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]] 21:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
==The Hangover==
I wasn't finished with the page yet. I'll have to redo it in the morning-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I was doing everything other than the pics and poster (I can't do that) when you deleted it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:M'kay. There was a Mossberg 500 and a Jericho 941-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hey do you think a Wilson Combat beavertail piece would fit in my High Standard? I'm tired if wearing gloves when I shoot-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==User: Dillinger ==
Do you know this person? He/she keeps going and removing an a photo of the S&W Model 19 that I posted as a compariosn with the S&W Model 67 on ''[[Escape from New York]]''. I did that so folks could see the difference between the two models. It was a source of controversy over what Snake Plisken was using. What really irritates me is that Dillinger doesn't have a page so I can't even send him a message.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG P220-series==

I wouldn't use the term "standard" to describe models of P220-series guns, unless it's to distinguish them from a special model (i.e two-tone, nickel, railed, etc.) Also, what do you mean about the P226 in "Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay" being a "prop"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
==Thanks for the advice==
:I bruised my hand up pretty bad the first time I shot the gun and one side of the grip safety is really sharp. It's probably because of the size of my hands. I would like to just thank you again for restoring The Hangover . My grandfather is sick with pneumonia and I was at the hospital with him all day and would not have had the time to redo the page.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:What if the gun has a parkerised finish?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:Then I will just have to buy a beavertail for fear of screwing up my grip safety-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Halo article ==

As I just added to the talk page there, the Halo article doesn't actually represent any effort at all on to poster's part; it's copy-pasted from a page on Halopedia. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*There's a few I could see arguments being made for [assault rifle as FN F2000 based, battle rifle the horrible, dishevelled spawn of an XM8 and a TAR-21] and if someone ever wrote a proper article with screenshots that explained some form of "this gun is based on this gun" reasoning, I'd argue we should keep it. That one, though, is worthless plagarism. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==permission==
Can I post X-Men Origins pics from sample clips released by IMDB? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 17:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*Ah nevermind. The clips at IMDB are from TV spots anyway and can be found online. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Vandal detected ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/201.83.221.229

Click the diff. I don't really think that was an improvement. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==
I think you are right on Spider man 3. Flint did indeed use a Smith & Wesson. I am not going to do a Spider Man 2 page as it only shows a Beretta 92FS and a Mossberg 500. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 01:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series==

I hadn't looked at this page in a while, and then I looked at it today and it was incredibly well done. Excellent, excellent job, GM. It looks so much more professional now. Bravo! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Megan Fox Page ==

If an actor or actress has not used any weapons in any films or television yet, DO NOT make a page for them. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
== The Professional ==
I must have bought the stripped down version of Leon, my copy does not have the Roulette Scenes, Ringtrick, Drugdealer, Mathilda's paintball pistol, none of that.
So feel free to screencap it. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:Special deluxe edition huh, that must explain why I only paid like $8.00 for mine. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::I was surprised no-one has done Apocalypse Now yet. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, go ahead. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 15:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== MSN ==
Do you have MSN John?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

==Running Scared, my page setup==
I think I got the story with S&W 36 done right . It goes through so much crap. Also thanks for setting up my page. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== Year of the Dragon ==

Wait on that until Apocalypse Now is pretty much all done up.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== You're right ==
I never heard of the RPD before COD4. -[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Se7en and spoilers ==

Hey GM, I just wanted to say I thought you had a great idea for concealing the spoilers on the page for [[Se7en]]. I always hoped there was a way to explain how the gun was used so that people who had seen the film would understand but people who hadn't wouldn't have it ruined for them. Also great work with the page, as always, it's coming along very well and definitely needed your skills! Do you think we should start maybe going through some other films (when we have time) with major spoilers in the descriptions and changing them to fit the format for the descriptions on Se7en? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 01:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for the help ==

Just wanted to say thanks for helping with the [[RPD]]. I'd rather ask someone than put in "haven't a clue" when uploading stuff and hoping someone else will figure it out. Originally I frequented this site and eventually joined mainly for the Sci-Fi stuff, so I'm not always to good with older stuff. I checked through all the rifles but didn't think to check machine guns for this. -[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]]

==Constantine==
I was wondering if you thought that Rachel Weisz's gun is a 6906. It might be something different, but I don't have any of the models that it may be (some others have been suggested), so I am not an expert on what it may be. It looks a little BIG for a 6906. Just wondering if you wanted to give it a shot. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Another vandal ==

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/97.102.92.187 97.102.92.187] decided it would be a really great idea to [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User%3AS%26Wshooter&diff=157413&oldid=156790 vandalise S&W Shooter's user page] and make nonsense edits to a couple of other articles. Wants a good hard nuking. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 14:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thing Thing==
While I was surfing for more pages to edit, I found this page while surfing. This is actually a flash game and it doesn't belong here. Can you delete it? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Glow, not blow. ;)==

Oops! Kinda funny though.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, it looks great! Only one suggestion: Maybe one more PE image (i.e. the one with Depp and the 1911s)? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== An idea I had. ==

Rather than putting trivia entries on talk pages, which makes them a little tricky to find, why not make a seperate page? The idea I had was something like naming the article after the main one with (trivia) on the end, putting it in "category: movie trivia", then adding a template at the top or bottom of the main article; say the "would you like to know more" button from ''Starship Troopers''. This would read something like:

(Would you like to know more? image) This article has a '''trivia page''' (and that would be a link to it, working like the duplicate template).

It would advertise your hard work more clearly too, rather than just hoping people stumble across it on the discussion page. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 03:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==Walther PPK revisited==
A while back you corrected a glaring mistake I made in claiming the [[Walther PPK]] had a slide release. Once again I would like to thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding but I recently began to wonder; if the the PPK does not have a release, does its slide even lock back when empty? I realize that these two features are not necessarily mutually inclusive, however many guns from the PPK's time period did not lock when empty, so I am unsure what to think. Any information you could provide would be helpful.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== What the hell happened to Perfect Dark? ==

I know that the guns in the game were kind of fictitious, but a TON of them were based off real guns, so can we put it back? [[User:PPK1911HiPower|PPK1911HiPower]] 20:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Overzealous Deletion ==
I would just like to say that in the last few days it appears that some have become extremely quick to label an article as incomplete or recomend it for deletion only a few hours after it was created. Many people lay a basic foundation for a page and come back later to expand it. Therefore, I believe there should be more restrictions on timelimits and level of content before anyone can come along and recomend that someone else's article be eliminated.

On an unrealated subject, if adding pictures to an existing article which contains only text, if someone mentions a 1911 was used without giving any more details as to the weapon's appearance can any 1911 image be added (so long as the model isn't too obscure) until a more precise identification can be made? This same dilemma occurs with M16, MP5, and Kalashnikov models which are not given detailed identification.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::Disagree entirely. There's no excuse whatsoever for dumping trash pages on the site, and the only thing that will discourage it is if it's speedily removed; even if 'many people' do this [and I'd dispute that], we should make it clear this is not how articles should be constructed; a page with no useful information, no effort put into formatting and no screenshots is pointless, and hoping a turd will turn into a diamond if you leave it alone will soon get you a backyard full of turds. ''Anyone'' can take the time and effort to write up an article to an acceptable standard in a word processor before posting it; anyone who does not is going to have their article removed. Your actions of trying to get these pages up to a standard where they are not instantly deleted are laudable, but misguided; you shouldn't be jumping to help out people who won't put the effort in themselves, you should be working on your own projects. We don't want people coming to the site with the mentality that they can put no effort at all into a page because someone else will fix it for them later, because that essentially makes us servants running around after lazy idiots. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 00:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Actor Pages==
Sorry about that. I wasn't familiar with the new table format and I always forget to add the categories. I've fixed most of them now, so check them out and let me now if they are sufficient. Thanks for your guidance. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rules ==
Hey John. It seems you are going to write some rules. Can i help you with that?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Last Boy Scout ==

Hi Gunmaster, please check the discussion page of Last Boy Scout ;)

PS: Waiting to fix my English, lately instead of doing full pages I'm adding information or photos in existing pages. I hope to do well. For example after a year I have found the true name of the custom revolver in Hard Rain, my first page. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

==Payback once again==
Somebody has once again changed the ''[[Payback]]'' article to say that Porter's main gun is a S&W Model 29 instead of a Model 27. Being as this exact same question has see-sawed back and forth several times I was hoping you could verify it. Also I asked you some questions a few days ago that I think got buried in the all the posts. I will restate them below:

:A while back you corrected a glaring mistake I made in claiming the Walther PPK had a slide release. Once again I would like to thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding but I recently began to wonder; if the the PPK does not have a release, does its slide even lock back when empty? I realize that these two features are not necessarily mutually inclusive, however many guns from the PPK's time period did not lock when empty, so I am unsure what to think. Any information you could provide would be helpful.

:If adding pictures to an existing article which contains only text, if someone mentions a 1911 was used without giving any more details as to the weapon's appearance can any 1911 image be added (so long as the model isn't too obscure) until a more precise identification can be made? This same dilemma occurs with M16, MP5, and Kalashnikov models which are not given detailed identification.

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Response==
Thank you for answering my questions although I just wanted to make it clear that I am not the one who changed the ''[[Payback]]'' article to state Porter's weapon was a Model 29. Based on your response I couldn't determine if you were frustrated with me or just in general. I don't think the revolver is a .44 Magnum either but couldn't positively refute the change which is why I asked for your help.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== Gator Gun ==

Hey, good job identifying the so-called "Gator Gun" from ''[[Miami Vice]]''. That was an extremely tough one to identify and I'm impressed that you figured it out. Great job! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 22:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Question concerning Appaloosa 1878 8 Gauge ==

John, I'm looking for information concerning the 1878 8 gauge used in Appaloosa.
Could you please contact me at wv50bmg@gmail.com
Thank you for your time - [[User:Mrwhite1|Matt]] 19:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Obscure Colt Snake Series ==

Hey, just wondering if you have some good pics of the complete colt snake series. If so, they would be greatly appreciated.

thank you,

- [[User:sgt kickass]]

== Can you believe this guy? ==

Yournamehere thinks he can come to my page and change the format I prefer because he doesn't like it. How is my format not orderly. It's pissing me off. I mean look at my [[Black Lagoon]] Page. How is it better now than before when I had sections for which guns is which. I mean our differences aside, I didn't go to your Mail Call page and changed it. It's YOUR page. I don't believe I have the right to mess with how you like it. I just made some suggestions and Yournamehere decides to change my page the way he wants it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Revamp Mail Call ==

I'll think about it. It is a rather daunting task to put everything in the category that I am familiar with. As long as you have no problem with it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:50, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

==Lock'n Load: Pistols==
I had some questions relating to the most recent episode of ''[[Lock 'n Load With R. Lee Ermey]]''. You identified the ".38 double action Colt revolver" as a [[Colt New Service]] 1898, yet according to Ermey the weapon was adopted in 1894 and looked slightly different from the New Service. However, Ermey did mix up a couple of minor facts througout the episode and the difference in appearance could be the result of lighting, angle, or my own error, I just wanted to ask if you were certain about your identification. I was also curious if you knew exactly what .38 round this weapon fired as there were many around at the turn of the century: .38 short Colt, Long Colt, S&W, and special are the ones I can think of off the top of my head and I have no idea which was most common during this period.

I also was confused by the Gunny's statement that the Beretta 92 series of pistols was introduced in 1975, as I thought I read somewhere that they were not introduced until the early 1980's.

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Lock'n Load Response==
In response to the revolver in question, I did a little digging and discovered that the weapon was the [[Colt Model 1892]] as this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_M1892] testifies that the weapon was adopted in the early 1890's as the Military's first double action revolver, which Ermey mentioned the revolver he used was. It turns out that you were correct about the weapon being chambered in .38 Long Colt. I will post an image below so that if you wish you can change the Lock'n Load article in your preffered format as I have had bad luck with television articles lately.

[[Image:Colt Model 1892 Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Model 1892 - .38 Long Colt]]

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Help!/Help Received==
I was trying to fix the [[Uncharted: Drake's Fortune]] page by adding some pictures I have, but i don't know how to upload them! I asked S&W Shooter, and he said to ask you.

Thanks. I'm still an imfdb noob :) [[User: Mcguinness]]

Now i feel like a dick. Sorry :( [[User: Mcguinness]]

User talk:Gunmaster45

2009-08-17T07:29:38Z

Mcguinness: /* Help! */

'''Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the ''bottom'' of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks.''' - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Help received ==
I was trying to fix the [[Uncharted: Drake's Fortune]] page by adding some pictures I have, but i don't know how to upload them! I asked S&W Shooter, and he said to ask you.

Thanks. I'm still an imfdb noob :) [[User: Mcguinness]]

==Hey==
Sorry about the Brandon Soo Hoo thing. I was busy working on summer school stuff I had to do for the summer. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Future Weapons==
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
==Helicopter in The Marine==
Hey GM,
That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks==
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==Wanted==
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to [[Quantum of Solace]] go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
==Quantum of Solace==
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.

==Dirty Harry==

Just so you know, [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

==1911==

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.

:Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do ''so'' much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?

::It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.

::Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in ''[[Training Day]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]'' don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

==New stuff==

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the [[AK-47]] page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

:I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.

::Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?

:My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.

::OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".

: "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

== Your articles ==

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the ''[[Heat]]'' page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for ''[[Hollow Point]]'' or ''[[Last Action Hero]]'', but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.

:As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

== Current stuff ==

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your ''[[Hollow Point]]'' page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in ''[[The Fugitive]]''.

As far as the grenade launcher in ''[[Hollow Point]]'', it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.

::You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the [[Hollow Point]] page.

I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

==Heat==

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

::It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to ''you''.

::Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.

::From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.

:::So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.

::::All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.

::::Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on ''[[The Rock]]'' page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

==Defense Technologies==

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

[[Image:Federallabs37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (''[[RoboCop 3]]'' is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

== Great Work! ==

Thanks for uploading the poster for the [[Catch a Fire]] page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Response ==

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then [[Bad Boys II]], and it's MoviePropMaster2008's [[District B13]] with 37 guns. [[User: Alienqueen11]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the [[Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem]] page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on [[Toy Soldiers]]. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== About Language ==

Hey, I want to say good work on [[Heartbreak Ridge]], there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, [[User: Bunni|Bunni]], the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

:OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from ''Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels''), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

== MGS4 M1911A1 ==

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgnpNaJ6M0]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== .50 Caliber 1911? ==

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

[[Image:M1.50GI.jpg]]

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

== Nice work on Platoon ==

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)==
..''"how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?" ''
: I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

..''"I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."''
:Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

..''"Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."''
: I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

..''"Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."''
: The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.

::''Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better.'' -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Last Action Hero==
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

== Nice job ==

Hey, nice job on the [[Jurassic Park]] page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put [[A Beautiful Mind]] on your Pages Built list. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Re: Nice Job ==

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. [[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==M1911 shots by MPM2008==
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Uzi ==

About the [[Uzi]] page, you might want to leave a note on [[User: Bunni|Bunni's]] talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Training Day Revolver ==

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes.
Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg]]

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.

==Call of Duty 4 Pictures==

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

:Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'

hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.

Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki

== Re: Saving Private Ryan ==

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).

:Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.

::I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.

:::The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

==Good call on the xXx==
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329774/]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

==Dibbs==
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

== About the screencaps on COD4. ==

How did get them? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re:XXX==

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on ''[[Kelly's Heroes‎]]''. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on ''[[Where Eagles Dare]]''.

==On Kelly's Heroes==
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

==M1911s==
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Are you sure? ==

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

::What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

==Reign of Fire==
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008

==577 pic==
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

== The Punisher ==

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on [[Hard Boiled]] because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The [[Sin City]] talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''Tears of the Sun'' ==

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Re:Tybalts Gun==

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

==Ak recog==
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Jarhead'' M60E3 ==

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the [[M60 machine gun]], it has always had two [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240 machine gun]]s; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The [[Browning M2]] heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==animated gifs==
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.

[[Image:HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif]]
MPM2008

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Reign of Fire==
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

==...==

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008

::Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.

::BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

== Jaws ==

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping [[Jaws]]? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Top Pages ==

Very cool idea - nice work. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping [[Four Brothers]], and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]], so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Jaws]] is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==thanks==

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

[[Image:MyP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.

:As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...

:BTW, very nice job on the ''[[Last Man Standing]]'' page! Though I would recommend maybe being a ''little'' less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==crap==
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==Empty Pages I Created==
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. [[User:CyclopsScott|CyclopsScott]] 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==Western guns==
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hotel Rwanda==
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== The World Is Not Enough (video game) ==

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

==FYI==
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Walther P99 page ==

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

==Hollowpoint==
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

== American Gangster page ==

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

==the subject of "dibbs"==
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.

There you go, I cut the black bars off the [[Hostage]] screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on [[Hot Fuzz]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==fun gun==
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm]]
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Excellent work!! ==

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

==Movies to screengrab==
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

==Remington 870==
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Morita Rifle==
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bangkok Dangerous==
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==tropic thunder==
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==590==
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==You're not gonna believe this==
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==On some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Smokin' Aces ==

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have [[Smokin' Aces]]? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==New screencaps==
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Workload==
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:U.S. Marshals==

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== anonymous users ==

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Molotovs==
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

==Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics==
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)]]

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== the other Glock ==
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

==Alien Nation==
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ''Jingle All the Way'' ==

Thanks for the compliments on ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== The Dark Knight ==

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do [[The Dark Knight]], you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

::I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Got it for you==
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm]]

==T2==
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps on Commando==
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape. ==

You can do it.I don´t mind.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen ==
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

== Re: Scarface ==

I'll try to get more shots for [[Scarface]] when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on [[Mail Call]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.6.6.30]

This made me really pissed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a ''severe'' warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

==24==

Will you be around today to screen cap [[24]] Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on [[24]]. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on [[24]] the page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Lord of War==

Eh, depends. Main question is, how ''many'' additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the ''[[Lord of War]]'' page is one of the site's most popular.

::I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Tyrannasaurus ==

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Godfather ==

Thanks, ''[[The Godfather]]'' is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: The Departed==

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on ''[[Get Smart]]''! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), ''and'' I got two days off from work, ''and'' I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.

:Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Good suggestions! ==

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of ''[[The Getaway (1972)]]'' so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: The Untouchables ==

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Mail Call ==

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

I made some edits to it but they got erased. Why? I'm still working on screencapping yet, i didn't have enough time to add gun pics and you didn't add them. P.S When will you be getting season 3-8? [[User:Drjuki]]

Oh, ok. I thought you ment don't add any seasons since you were going to do that. I didn't know you were going to through the earlier seasons. You know who. Drjuki.

== The Untouchables ==

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

== XXX ==

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in [[Armageddon]], [[XXX]] and [[Death Race]]. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from [[We Were Soldiers]] that we had two miniguns mount on.

== Video Games ==

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

== Iron Man CAR15 ==

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M60E1 machine gun ==

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M1 Garand question ==

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the '''M60''', I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
[[Image:M60SnapShotOnSet.jpg]]
:Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

==Re:Hitman==

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances.
[[User: Charon68]]

==Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" ([[Lance Henriksen]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.]]
[[Image:Remington1875Q&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod ([[Gene Hackman]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.]]
[[Image:Remington1875SilverQ&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.]]

Like it? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I got more, but they're not western related ==
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Replacing some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Your page format==
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==SOCOM Mk 23==
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Hitman==

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gunner313 ==

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Iron Giant'' ==

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shoot 'Em Up.==

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==push==
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Legends of the Fall ==

Hi, I congratulate you for you work!
Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film?
Sorry for my bad english.

== Legends of the Fall (again) ==

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

== shotgun in Thunderball ==

Hey I just posted screenshots from ''[[Thunderball]]'' and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a [[Remington 870]]) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Tanks for your answer ==

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.

==SIG==

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for ''Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft'' (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Rundown==
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are '''not''' what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also '''replace''' any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Blank revolver question==
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shit==

I just did an edit on ''[[The Rundown]]'' while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Norinco SKS Sporter==
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

==Blank revolvers==
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

==The Rundown==
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shootemup==
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Legends of the Fall==
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

==Street Kings==

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the ''[[Street Kings]]'' page. And I literally just mean a few:

*(1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
*(2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
*(3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect.
--[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.

:Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates ([[Common]]) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Unforgiven Shotgun==

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, Check out the photo of the W. Richards that I just posted. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Dust hit gun==
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

==Review on Wanted==
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. '''Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. ''' I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that '''Darth Vader is Luke's father''', some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==watermark==
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
'''Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1'''
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== some Westerns ==

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for ''[[The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford]]'' and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on ''[[American Outlaws]]'' which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: Boondock Saints==

Dude, armory scenes in movies ''always'' suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' or ''[[The Matrix]]''. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an ''extremely'' regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - ''[[Menace II Society]]'' and ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1897==

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Appaloosa==
Hey John
Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
:No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix==
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little ''''squished''''. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-DEa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-Cheetah2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-CheetahA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Admins==
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
::Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

== Speakeasy804 ==

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Need your help here==
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

[[Image:MMS-Twin-Silenced-Pistolsa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]
[[Image:MMS-TwinSilencedPistols2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]

Here are the candidates that people suggested:
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkCamperSS.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmark2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk II - Silenced]]
[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II]]

What do you think? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
::When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith==
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
[[Image:MMS-QuoteCorrect.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.]]
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

==Colt 25?==
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Re: Sgt. York ==
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant==
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Pages Lock Out==
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with [[The Wild Geese]] can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== 1911's and other models. ==

Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an '''old''' cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.

I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned ''seven'' of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.

Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.

However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a [[Webley Mk VI]] - which is my pride and joy.

I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?

Talk to you later. [[Jcordell]]

Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a [[Savage 99]] rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. [[Jcordell]]

== Thanks for your help ==

Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]
Ah - ha! Got it.

The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.

== Winchester Model 1895 ==

I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.

I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== My job here ==

Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Colt Troopers. ==

Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.

==Colt Mustang==
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008

==S&W MkII Hand Ejector==
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

==orphaned image==
What is this from? It's not linked to any page.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg
MPM2008

==Bergmann MP18==
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve

== ''CSI: Miami'' S&W Semi-Auto ID ==

I don't think the pistol shown on ''[[CSI: Miami]]'' is a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5946|S&W 5946]]. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4046|Smith & Wesson 4046]] does have a right-handed safety though. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

==In the Line of Fire Llama==
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve

==XM16E1==

Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve

==Idea for New Page==
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

== M4 vs. M4A1 ==

The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Young Guns ==

Great job with ''[[Young Guns]]''! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't ''something'' they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:: Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.

==RE: RoboCop 2==

Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."

Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== re: Nice Work ==

Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on ''The Untouchables'' page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that!
Also, I'll peruse ''The Godfather'' sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake.
On a different note, great job with the first ''Dirty Harry''. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have ''Casino Royale'' so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get ''Quantum of Solace'' pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is ''Never Say Never Again'' which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with ''Magnum Force'' as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:::I never saw ''Flashpoint'' but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw ''Magnum Force'' is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Gunmaster,
Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman==
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== KAC SR-25 ==

If you read the paragraph at the top of the [[Knight's Armament SR-25]] page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hello other-young-gun-nut ==

I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--[[User:GlocksRevilACP|GlocksRevilACP]] 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Beretta 9000S==
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008

== Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp ==

If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp ''Sudden Impact'' and ''The Dead Pool'' as well because they are pretty weak.

== Hostage Molotovs ==

While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.

:That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.

==Colt 1903 new page==
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT Pistols page==
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
:: Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. ''"No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!"'' So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Last crusade==
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redacted==
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.

::Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM

==Thanks for the reply==
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008

==addendum==
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008

== Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]] ==

You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in [[The Enforcer]]. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]]. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Great. thanks. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question==
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==VIP==
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008

==VIP gun help==
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008

== Diamondback or Python ==

Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping ''[[The Enforcer]]'', so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, ''[[Magnum Force]]''. What do you think? [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in ''[[The Enforcer]]''. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in ''[[Magnum Force]]''. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Outlaw Josey Wales ==

Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?==

Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

==Collateral==
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:: John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
* ''[[Miracle at St. Anna]]'' filling out the page
* ''[[Bullets or Ballots]]''
* ''[[Warbirds]]'' A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
* ''[[Lady Gangster]]''

Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.

==Winchester 1892==
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Category:Flare Pistol==
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks for the assist. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM

==Seecamp==
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008

==RE:==

Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go ''too'' crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the ''[[Belly]]'' AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bourne Identity (1988) ==

Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008

==Did you take this picture?==
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg

== Help ==

How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? [[User:Drjuki]]

Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. [[User:drjuki]]

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'll remember to use move instead, some anonymus user created the page before I tried redirecting it. I know I haven't done any work in a long time, once in awhile I'll find a movie I want to screencap, right now I'm thinking about uploading some extra shots for [[I Am Legend]]. Btw, good job on you most recent pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I found a few good shots in the movie that were missed, although I'm not completely comfortable about replacing someone else's screengrabs, so I might put some screenshots on the talk page for anyone who's more comfortable with replacing them. Also, I've seen Ctone's blog too, and he does a great job, especially with his screenshots. I think I might get started screencapping now since I have alot of free time. Thanks for the Redirect btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I got so far, and I'll be uploading more tomorrow as well. If you have any suggestions for screenshots, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

==Madness Combat==
Does anyone where i could post a madness combat page, i have like tewlve pages filled with guns and I HAVE TO POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Drjuki]]

No i know i can't post them here, i was just wondering if you knew a site where i could. [[User:Drjuki]]

== I Am Legend ==

Sure, I'll get pictures when I put the DVD in.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Call of duty 2 ==

Hey i don't plan these i just add pics if it needsem or add text if it needs em. I don't even have half the games i edit on here. [[User:Drjuki]]

Yes I was. [[User:Drjuki]]

== RE: COD4(DS) ==
Beacause I've seen some site that listed them. IMFDB Isn't the only site that has weapons in Anime, Movies, TV, And Video Games you know. Sure it's the best one but, you know there are some sites. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S The reason I don't write very well is because I am not used to writing without spellcheck, and grammer check. [[User:Drjuki]]

That is a good I will do that. [[User:Drjuki]]

== Pictures ==

I have a question, if there was a movie where a guy got his head blown off but he had a gun in his hand, would users be allowed to take that pic and other gruesome images? [[User:Drjuki]]

Would you be able to tell me a list of pages that have those? Not all them but just the ones you know. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

== Contact Info? ==

Hey GM45, I was wondering, do you have any instant messenger programs or the like? I'd like to chat with you off-site if possible. You can send your contacts to the email address listed on my userpage if you'd prefer to keep from getting spammed. Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey um, i have a website that has a chatroom on it it's kinda a failed project it's not done yet, if so how's may 9th 3:30?
heres the link http://charlietheunicornstuff.synthasite.com/

You know what f**k that [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

==Re:Appaloosa==
Hey John, Glade you like the film I enjoyed it. Most armories will not give credit to the designer or build for fear they client will go direct to the designer next time around. I only have one armory that tells everyone what I build for them. I will work on those 8 Gauge photos this weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Not sure who did the sound for the show. They most likely re-recorded all the gunfire as they plan to make a second movie. That way the will have their own sound library for the next show.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Appaloosa screencaps. ==

Looking forward to your screencaps. It's a great movie and the page has been needing some help. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Probably one of the best westerns I've seen in years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:Hey John, Nice work on the [[Appaloosa]] page. I am going though the build photos for the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] now and hope to post late tonight the photos and some background with them. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

== When we're gone... ==
What are we going to do when are syops and admins start leaving? When we die, (not literally but not go here anymore) what will happen? Will we appoint new ones? (P.S I've helped out every call of duty page, so thats 10 pages!) Or will we just shut down this site? Will we start making pages for Halo and gears of war when lasers come out? Drjuki.

== Flash ==

Could we make a seperate IMFDB for just flash? We could call it IFFDB (Internet Flash Firearms DataBase)? Drjuki.

==Can You use this anywhere?==
[[Image:TaurusPT92-2tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Taurus PT92 Two Tone - 9mm]]
Another MPM 2008 Image.... ;) MPM2008

==More for your Shootem up page==
[[Image:TaurusPT92AF-Reverse2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Reverse Two Tone Taurus PT92AF - 9mm]]
The arm has a reverse two tone gun like this one. I think this image can help. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==blanks==
I am super busy today, but I am going to look at one of our Hollywood blank and perhaps take a pic of how the cardboard wad is constructed and send it off. regards. MPM2008

== Deadwood ==

Hey GM, I just screencapped the first season of ''[[Deadwood]]''. Since you're a pro with that time period, I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a look at all if you have a chance just to check to see if I've been getting things right? Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 21:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about my late response, I've been busy between work and finishing the Deadwood page. It's all done now so I'll go through looking for errors and discrepancies, etc., etc. I appreciate your information added about the S&W Models 1 and 2, which I'll try to sort out once I can find good gun pictures for each to use. In response to grouping the SAAs together, I would do so (as I normally do) but since I took a large number of screencaps, I decided it would be at least a semi-logical way to split it up. The ''[[Joe Kidd]]'' page looks great of course; very interesting to see a C96 used in a Western (although it's a shame they used the typical Hollywood bottomless magazine!) Finally, I'm very impressed by "Gladys" your 1911! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taken==
Go ahead, John. I was planning on going to get it, but a shitload of work just came my way. Happy hunting. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==Joe Kidd==
Hey John, Looking over the Joe Kidd page you built looks nice. I believe that the Colt 1877 Lightning you show in the capture is a Colt 1878 Double Action in 45 Long Colt. Also the Lightning photo you posted in the Lightning page for Kill Bill is a Cimarron Lightning Single Action. If thats the case does that go in the Single Action Army page like the Uberti's? -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, You are correct I would only add strange Uberti, Hartford and others that were used like the Hartford Model Sheriff and Pinkerton that we used in the Streets of Laredo. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Admin ==
Hey how many pages do you have to edit or make to become a admin? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Matrix: Revolutions ==
Hey, I didn't know whether to put this here or on the Matrix page, but I'll put it both places.
I'd kind of like to do M:R but I saw that you had it down on your to do list. It's yours if you want it, but you might have bigger stuff on your plate. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 05:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, go ahead! --[[Special:Contributions/207.108.206.237|207.108.206.237]] 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: your guns ==
I'd never taken a look at your firearm collection before, but did today. You have some awesome stuff. Being a sucker for 1911's I really like Gladys, and the "Spanish Llama XV" guns. This is really not a post of any real value, but damn. Those are amazing.
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood's page ==

Would you have a problem if I began organizing some of the larger actor pages, such as Eastwood's, chronologically and by film to make them easier? I'd leave the same photos and everything but I just feel the pages should be in some sort of order. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 23:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Desert Eagle Love ==

Thanks, and yes, I know that it is a pretty impractical weapon (don't rub it in), but a few folks I know just like that weapon. I'm just a big fan of large caliber weapons, and I'm just one of those few who just, well you know. Anyways, I'm honored to have become a user on this site. P.S. Thanks for the pointer!
- [[User:500Magnum]]

==I owe you an apology on the Model 60==
Well, today I saw the owner of the Model 36 in satin nickel and he said 'that's not in satin nickel. I was talking about another gun. That's stainless', WTF? That's not what I remembered, but oh well. I popped it open and it is still marked Model 36, so I queried more about why it was marked Model 36-2 and he 'forgot' to mention that it was a factory missmark and thus was collectible. So my tirade about the Model 60 being a custom Model 36 seems a bit unnecessary. I showed him the IMFDB site and he basically concurred, there is nothing about that gun that makes it different from a Model 60 other than the weird factory model stamping which no one can see. I'm no S&W expert, but he set me straight and pointed out that I was wrong to complain about others naming it a 'model 60' when for all intents and purposes, it looks just like one. So I owe you an apology regarding the Model 36/Model 60. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== I like your pictures ==

I'd also like to comment on your pictures, and I think those are pretty good. You must have worked hard to get them.
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
What I meant to say was your screencaps were good; excuse me. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

== New IMFDB? ==
This is hyothetical, say there were some movies I liked and I wanted just them on a site. So I make a website with let's say the matrix. now let's say I copied and pasted descriptions and copied pics from imfdb. Would I be able to do that if I say that I got them from Imfdb.org? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 22:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok That wasn't hypothetical, I'd already done it and wanted to make sure I could keep it. Don't worry. I deleted it. no more. I hope you don't sue me for everything i've got. (P.S. I'm only 10 so that won't work very well.) (P.S.S. Why won't you shoot the nambu?

== I am Legend ==

I got the last screenshots for I Am Legend up, and sorry for the really long delay. how does it look now?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and no problem, I'm glad those templates are gone too, I don't understand why Dragon would even use them when they looked bad, plus we never needed them anyway, I mean it's not that hard to make a simple phrase at the top of each page. About the forum, I signed up for it a few months ago, but I lost my password, I'll be sure to sign up for it again eventually since it appears to be really active. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Pineapple Express ==

Thanks for warning me about the widescreen bars. It took a while, but I removed all of the bars on each of the caps I saved. Tommorrow, I'll replace the ones I aleready posted, and continue my work on the page. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep this in mind for my future postings.
--[[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 12:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Comments in Articles ==
I have relocated several comments of yours from the body of the article to the discussion page. All signed comments should be posted in the discussion page. Otherwise, great work, keep it up. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandals ==
What would you do if some one erased mail call. Like they made a account just to vandalise. and if i put sucks on Twilight, would it count as vandalism? P.S can you tell me when you're done with mail call? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't you think you got it when you're done with mail call, could you tell me that you're done on my talk page? (P.S. I've looked at my contributions and i've made 545 edits! sadly none of them are screencaps, so I can't be a admin yet :( and hey I made a spongbob page (for fun) and I can't beleve how fast it dissapeared! could you tell me who and what happened to it? and hey how old were you when you got made an admin and when you joined?) (P.S.S. The reason I didn't make any screencaps is that my dad won't show me the program that we have because he doesn't like guns and sorry I'm asking so many questions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Help with Identifying Guns ==
hi, I was talking to a friend and he said that he saw 2 unusual weapons on CSI, i was wondering if you could tell me whether or not they were real

the first was a gun that, somehow was able to shoot 2 rounds into the same wound whilst only clicking the trigger once. (sorry if its quite vague); and the other was a gun that was known on CSI:Miami as the "Vapouriser", in the show it turned a person into a mist of blood.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 22:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man ==

thanks for the help man, a said to my friend I thought that the "vapouriser" wasnt real, but he was adamant about it.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== "Gladys" ==
: That is one nice 1911 you have there.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Last Boy Scout Page==
I read on page ''The Last Boy Scout'' that you want to restore it. I had not noticed that your message and I have already prepared all the screencaps and some information (work at 50%). Can I prepare that page or want it you? Or you want my screencaps and you write the description because I spoke bad English? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
::I think that your work will certainly be better than mine. I asked you just to know what was your job. If you're ready to upload good work! ^_^ - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Mail Call ==

I know you don't listen to me and use this to make the score bigger, but counting the REPEATS of weapons already establish. The Garand, the M16 repeats at least 3 times and you counted them into the score. That's just stupid. It's like if I take the 4 seasons of the Unit an counted 1 for every time I see a firearm, even though I have already established that we do see it from season 1. I put down M4s, but I don't do it 4 different times because this rifle has appeared in all the seasons, I just put images of how the rifle looks from each season under the M4 category. I label each section, handguns, SMGs, rifles, etc and put weapons under each regardless of the seasons they've appeared in. The format you've done for Mail Call makes it very messy and kind confusing and VERY unnecessarily LONG. I'm not dissing your efforts, I just think you over did it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Commando Tranquilizer Pistol==
Hey John, I noticed on another blog the Bennett had a tranquilizer pistol pointed and Matrix. Do you have a screen capture on this. I would pull it but I don't have the movie. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey John, Thanks for getting that screen cap later it was just miss identified as a Crossman Air Pistol. I figured that I would fix that little error. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Last Boy Scout Page ==

I have some screencps of various weapons that you haven't published in the page. Can I add them or you're still working on the project? I do not want to ruin your work. If you want I can show them before posting. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:I asked you only because I thought you had finished to post all the images. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Deadliest Warrior ==

Can you ID the Colt Revolver on my [[Deadliest Warrior]] page? Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Deleted article ==

Why did you delete the article for Perfect Dark? Was there something wrong with it I should know about? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Taps ==

Was limited in my resources when I first created the page. Thanks for not wiping out my contributions all together (which has happened before)and excellent work on the caps [[ User:Charon68|Charon68]]

==sorry==
I am sorry if you had issues with my categorizing the firearms lists of various pages. I only did so becaues I found it to be more organized on longer articles than the simple listing method used on shorter pages. I agree with you that since I did not write the original article I have no right to completely alter its format. I am sorry I did so and will cease making these changes in the future.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I just recieved your message thanking me for my cooperation. I had no idea that the one undoing all of my changes was the articles original author (I probably should have checked though) and had I been aware would have desisted immediatly. A simple message would have been enough to make me aware of my mistake, therefore the ultimatum included in your first message was both unnecessary and unappreciated. In the future if you could alert me to my mistakes without the use of threats I would be appreciative. I apologize if a sound angry at all (I'm not, nor do bear you any grudge) I was just slightly offended by the manner in which you told me stop changing page format.
:-Anonymous

== Help for new idiot... ==

Gunmaster45,

I saw your edits to a page (Thief) I created. I am very new, so forgive my indiscretions and errors in protocol. I was wondering if it would be possible to explain how to generate the table of contents present on each page. This is the boxed heading at the top of each page showing each gun and when clicked, takes you directly to each section (gun). I wasn't sure if posting this question here is proper, but I haven't found the help area that explains this action.

Thanks for your help in editing, and I have to say your work is excellent and I will strive to emulate your talent here on this site. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help, Gunmaster45! I appreciate your fast response. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Your suggestions for screencap editing are welcome. I will strive to adhere to the protocols in the future. I was using a poor, non-widescreen version for the screencaps. I have the WS DVD on order and will try to capture next week. If you decide to screencap similar scenes in the meantime, have at it! Thanks for the help. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 06:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Picture Assistance==
I have been contributing to this website for a long time and have written several articles and provided additions to many others. However, while I identify gun use in my pages and include pictures of the firearms (taken from other articles on this site) I have never been able to figure out how to upload pictures to this site from outside sources. Any instruction you can provide on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. My computer skills are mediocre to say the least, therefore I would be greatful if you could make the instructions as simple as possible.
:-Anonymous

==Thank You==
I followed your instructions on how to post images from outside sources and found them both easy to comprehend and effective. Thank you for showing me how to do this so that I can greatly improve my articles.
:-Anonymous

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix Screencap==
I noted on the Matrix discussion page that I was conducting a test and had realized that the existing screencaps are distorted, but the image is exactly the same as yours (the exact frame actually). Nothing on the page has changed, other than the fact that it was not uploaded by you. When people change pages, they're actually CHANGING the page, i.e. making the content different. I will only replace screenshots if they're distorted or crap. Yours were not crap, but I noticed that they seemed stretched upwards and I conducted a test to verify that. MPM2008

== Crossfire Trail ==
That would be great. It's a good western made in the older Hollywood style. It was directed by Simon Wincer who also directed [[Lonesome Dove]] I just bought a brand new Dell computer which will allow me to do screencaps, but right now I'm busy with household stuff and it's still sitting in it's box along with the 20" Hi-def screen --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a little research through my ''American Rifleman'' back-issues. Found some useful info about the guns used by [[Tom Selleck]] in his many westerns in the May 2002 issue.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Quigley Down Under ==

All it says is that there were three Shilo Sharps No. 3 rifles in 45-110 manufactured for him to use in the movie. It's my understanding that one of the rifles was donated to the NRA museum by Selleck.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what I figured. Oh by the way I picked up a Luger a few weeks ago. Manufactured in 1916 at the Erfurt goverment arsenal. Shoots like a champ.Here is a so-so picture I took.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There it is. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Luger One.JPG|thumb|350px|none]]

== Cool Guns ==

I've long considered the Luger P08, Mauser C96 Broomhandle, and the Webley Mk VI revolver to be "cool" handguns. Oh sure there are better handguns out there and certainly more modern handguns, but that itn't the point. Since I was your age (really) I have wanted an example of those three handguns. I now own a Webley Mk VI and a Luger. Perhaps one of these days I'll get a Broomhandle. We'll see. Your dad has a nice Luger there by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your dad has the C96 carbine? Partner you absolutely have to get a photo of that sucker posted. Lucky S.O.B. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==I see you replaced my pic==
And it wouldn't be so bad if your pic was better, but it's not. The contrast ratio is still 'muddy' and color saturation is still weaker. I thought you were more mature than this. I guess I was wrong. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==my apologies==
Like usual, you have a good (and mature beyond your years) explanation for your actions. I apologize. I must keep remembering that you are not like 99% of the guys .. ON the internet ... most of whom are petty. I see so much pettiness on the net that I sometimes forget that this is not the case everyone. THANKS for the explanation. And again, I apologize :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Matrix Reloaded==

I see you're re-vamping the page. Well and done, and good work so far. But I beg of you...please try and limit yourself to 5 screencaps per gun? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:What I would recommend if you have shots that look cool but you've reached the limit is to post them on the discussion page for other people to look at. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Call of duty ==

Hey i found some pics that i could use to TOTALLY revamp COD2, COD4, COD5, and soon MW2. If you could Ok it that would be great. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey i hope you saw COD2 took me all night. P.S. i'm done with COD4 it's awesome, and tommorow i'll work on COD4 (DS), and COD5. P.S.S. great job on The Matrix Revolutions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Screencap assisstance==
I am a little confused on what it is necessary to obtain sceencaps. I am under the impression that specific software is required inorder to play movies in a manner so that screencaps be taken. If that is the case where can this software be obtained.
:-Anonymous

==Payback edit mistake==
I recently viewed the changes you made to the ''[[Payback]]'' article. While I agree completely with your eliminating the Smith & Wesson model 29 and 28 sections and replacing them with one section on the model 27, I noticed that you got rid of the section on the Beretta 92 Porter uses akimbo with his 27. This weapon was definitely present in the film therefore I am confused as to why you omitted it. I have not changed this myself for fear I might accidentally undo some addition or correction.
:-Anonymous

==Commentary==
I always love your commentary, GM. -protoAuthor

==Payback response==
I contacted you immediately after noticing the omission. I checked the article shortly after finishing my message and noticed the change but did not have time to negate my comment before you responded.
:-Anonymous

==Payback again==
I noticed that you eliminated the section on the Smith & Wesson model 38. I am not necessarily disputing your actions I just don't entirely understand it because it looked like the gun was used based on the screencaps that were included.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
Sorry
:-Anonymous

==New Template==
Concerning the new template used to categorize information on recent actor articles, I was wondering whether existing articles would be retroactively changed to fit the new format or if it will be required on future pages.
:-Anonymous

== Payback Page ==

I know that the pages I do are horrible and very bad and I have no objection if someone restores this works, I'm even glad of it, but it was nice to be informed before the repubblication that 8 hours of my work are destroyed. Good job anyway. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:If you've forgotten to advice me it means that there is no problem. I misunderstood your action. It's all ok. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Gran Torino ==

Hey GM45, Great work on Payback, it looks awesome. I also would like to know when you plan on screencapping [[Gran Torino]]? Because it's a good movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it's page completed. I'm not trying to rush you or anything, I'm just curious.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday ==
Your birthday is on the 27th? Mine is on the 30th! It is quite funny how they are so close together.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
I am sorry I made such amateur mistake, considering how similar the two guns are in most aspects I did not think that such a crucial difference existed. You were certainly in the right to remove my comment and I greatly appreciate your explaining the reason to me. On another subject, I was curious if you could get back to me on the Template question I posted 4 sections above.
:-Anonymous

==Template Comment==
Actually, I rather don't care for the new template. I looked at the text in the editing and saw that it is extremely complicated to create. In addition, while the new system presents more information in a more organized fashion, I find it less aesthetically pleasing that the older, simpler format. While I have no problem with the new template being used, I contacted you because I was hoping that contributors who prefer could still create articles using the older format.
:-Anonymous

==Template==
I understand that people will use the new template and have no problem with that. However, I am worried that it will be retroactivly applied to existing articles whether or not article's contributors approve.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Per the anonymous user's comment, (since I can't reply to him) The template only applies to ACTOR pages and Gun pages. No one user has ownership of an Actor page or gun page. Users have 'some' rights over MOVIE/TELEVISION/ANIME/VG pages that they have worked hard on, but that's only a courtesy. If something is horrendously wrong, like a new user creates a hideous page, they have no right to keep a stupid page (like the guy who put 'The Ring'' as a page, WTF?). MPM2008

== Another opinion on new template ==
I don't like it. And personally I don't think I'm going to use it on pages I start. Guess that's me just being an old asshole. sorry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're right. Just being muleheaded.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy early Birthday ==

Thanks GM, I was just wondering, Happy birthday in advance by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

==Payback yet again==
I noticed you removed all of my responses on the ''[[Payback]]'' page to your comments about mistakes the characters or filmmakers made. I realize that my comments made the text about the images rather lengthy and I apologize if they made you feel that I was being overly critical of you, but the reason I wrote them was because ''Payback'' is one of my favorite films and I felt the need to defend it when any justification could be made for its errors. I do not intend to replace my comments, however, deleting them while entirely disregarding the arguments they presented (my Walther-Bersa feature mistake excepted) seems a little discourteous. Once again I am sorry for giving you so much grief over this page the last couple of weeks, but as I stated this is one of my favorite films and I just wanted to see it done justice.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I realize you enjoy pointing out the gun-related errors films make (I really do as well to be honest) and I have no issue with that whatever. In fact, the majority of your criticisms I left alone because I found them to be fully justified. The only comments I made were pertaining to mistakes I thought could justified such as missing at a close distance because the target is concealed or useing a poor grip because the size and location of a target make a hit guaranteed. I know some of the excuses have shaky foundations, but sense I enjoy the film so much I have been grasping at straws to vindicate it. I don't mind your removing them so much as I hope you at least considered what they said first. I will try to stop beating a dead horse and refrain from further commenting on this film, however I am not entirely sure I can restrain myself. ;)
:-Anonymous

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, I did notice you were using the template on the Actors pages it looks good with the info all cleaned up. I will note down about the boxed template and see what everyone else says. That's a good idea of your to clean up the Test page so everyone can use it for cut and paste. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

That does look good with the boxes on the [[Daniel Roebuck]] page. We'll have to see what the others say on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey John, My newest entry I have posted at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]] you might like it also.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Weeds Desert Eagle ==

Are you sure that it is a .44 Magnum. I own one and it is what I originally had listed but reading up I found that it was a .357. I will double check.

== RE:Frackyou ==
I saw on the Mail Call discussion page and was wondering what was the Taunting User Name? Oh and P.S. I hate little F***ers who do that to. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight actors ==
WTF? Why do we have Actor pages for them didn't use any guns? Who even pu them up their? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Deleted Article Question==
As an administrator I was hoping you could answer a question I had regarding some deleted articles. I noticed recently that the Television pages for ''American Dad'', ''Family Guy'', and ''The Simpsons'' had all been deleted. This seemed logical as animated programs such as these may not provide detailed enough images of firearms to definitively say what weapons the images were supposed to represent making these pages rather out of place on this website. However I noticed that the article for ''[[King of the Hill]]'' still exists which has better animation quality, yet still seems to have some of the issues as other animated pages. In addition, there are many other articles mostly on older video games and some animated works that have these problems. Why is it some questionable articles are deleted while others remain? I am not complaining about the decisions made, I am just curious about the process that leads to an articles deletion.
:-Anonymous

== True Lies ==

Thanks, and sure. I don't know why the widescreen for that movie is like that, same thing happens to [[Armageddon]], and [[Broken Arrow]]. If you can get better screenshots, then sure, go for it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Fantastic new caps from ''[[Public Enemies]]''! I'm definitely going for the first day it comes out, I'm a huge Mann fan as well (since you said it, I figure it won't sound as bad if I did haha) and I did a report on Dillinger in 7th grade and I've been fascinated with all that since then. I sure hope my teachers weren't worried about me after that :-/ Anyway, especially good call identifying the .38 Super M1911A1 machine pistol that Dillinger used. I'm really glad Mann used that, as neither of the other Dillinger films I've seen had it! If only there was a way we could share duties capping that when it's out on DVD. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 04:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Haha, thanks I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll get a ton of good shots but you always add so much to the pages that as I'm putting them on, you'll have valuable input to help. I'll be watching both the 1945 and 1973 Dillinger movies the night before, I guess to try and make it my own kind of marathon? Had you seen either, I definitely recommend the '73 version especially with Warren Oates and the great John Milius directing it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::One book that does a great job is the ''Public Enemies'' book written by Bryan Burroughs, it covers Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, and the Barker-Karpis Gang. Really a very interesting book with a ton of stuff if you're looking to check some of the accuracy of the movie. I read the script actually (a few months ago so it'd still be pretty fresh) and I think they took a few liberties with ''who'' was involved with the gang and when they were captured/died/etc., but with things like that it might progress the story in their favor to have it play out a different way. I'm just glad that PE will be featuring a wide variety of guns as well. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Also, happy birthday! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vacancy ==

Thanks for all corrections to the page. I use to put the Screencaps in that way because first I showing good the main actor with the weapon and then the others. But I have no problem to applied the caps in a different way.

== CODWAW ==
Finally done! Tell me what you think. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Ad Question==
I noticed the wide variety of new advertisers on this site. I am slightly confused over some of the new sponsers. While many of the ads are not surprising, I have seen ads promoting cosmetics and high-heeled shoes. Are these people unaware of the demographic this site caters to or are the ads simply generated randomly.
:-Anonymous

== RE: New profile picture ==
Quite the badass GM! Don't let anybody tell you akimbo isn't cool. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, if Hugo Weaving is coming at you, it's a good idea to throw out as much lead as you can, eh?
::I'm just yankin' your chain man! ;) --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Anytime you get a bunch of young guys in a group, their IQ goes way down. I've found myself doing dumb things(thankfully not with firearms) while in groups. Good luck with that! --[[Special:Contributions/75.175.64.56|75.175.64.56]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday ==

Hey GM45, just wanted to say Happy Birthday, I hope you're enjoying it and got everything you wanted. Thanks for your work on AvP by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on [[Gran Torino]], it is a good movie. Awesome work on [[Freddy vs. Jason]] too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
For your help on the Goldeneye/BDA/BDM thing.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's already been done-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I saw that, I edited the BDA pictures back to 600, but they got changed. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::oh yeah, i have a good sized moniter, but those jsut they appear too large.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Don't touch the SEALS page==
I have the screencaps that were left over from the first pass. I just haven't put them on yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Tightrope==
Hey John, I am checking to see if you have the Eastwood movie Tightrope. Let me know as I my need a screencap off of it. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 04:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I will PM you over on the forum for the answer. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: What did you think? ==

First off, I loved it. I feel like Mann really put a lot into this one (as well as the cast/crew, etc., giving credit where it's due of course) but I was incredibly impressed. I feel like they had done extensive research and used that to make the story so good. Like you said, the creative license with Nelson/Floyd/killings during Michigan City jailbreak/etc. may have been wrong but I feel like it did help to move the story forward for viewers not quite as knowledgable to the rest story as people like us ;)

Mann also proved that just because a movie takes place in the 1930s doesn't mean you only need to have 1911s and Thompsons. I noticed a bunch of the guns you had, such as the 1903A3s. I didn't get as good a look at the Winchesters, like the one used to wound Dillinger (I think the guy who wounded him in real life was John Shipley but I don't quite recall. I think the Sioux City bank robbery in the film was a mix of Dillinger's three 1934 bank robberies after his escape). I noticed a lot of revolvers, like the Colts you mentioned. I think I saw some with Smith & Wesson grips at one point but I can't remember when it was. I'm sure I'll go again to see it at some point this weekend so I'll be more eagle-eyed. Although I had especially noticed the shot of the Thompson during the Racine robbery and thought "that'd be GREAT for imfdb!" as well as a bunch of other shots. Amazing what this website does for the movie-watching experience haha

I was trying to do some shot-counting but it became difficult for me to sometimes discern who was shooting. But I agree; Bale looked steel-eyed when he was firing his 1911 at Nelson (also I noticed he kicked what looked like a nickel 1911 out of Pretty Boy Floyd's hand; I heard/read that the only nickel 1911s around during that era were the ones chambered in .38 Super. Do you know if this is true?)

Anyway I hope you enjoyed it, I know I certainly did. My friends were a bit confused by who the characters were exactly (which I could understand, Mann went right into the story!) but I was blown away! Another good (but long!) book to pick up if you have the time is a book called DILLINGER by William J. Helmer I believe. It goes very indepth into the story. The last couple summers my friends and I have been working on making our own ''Pretty Boy Floyd'' film but now it's gonna be pretty tough to avoid copying almost directly from PE! Hope I didn't ramble too much here - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

:Now that would be impressive! What all would you need to convert one to resemble, if not operate, like the one Dillinger had? Also I was just remembering the early scene in which Dillinger disassembled the Thompson - do you happen to recall if they showed Depp doing it himself or if they cut to just a set of hands? I'm just curious as to whether or not he had done it himself; Mann seems to make sure his actors are well trained with firearms (notably Cruise in ''[[Collateral]]'' of course). Also, I just found this interesting message board thread while browsing imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/board/flat/141781630. Covers a bunch of the accuracy things we were talking about. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Public Enemies==
Hey John, Lets see if I can fill in some of the gaps on this. I restore the weapons for Gibbons Ltd used by John Depp and weapons were also supplied by ISS.
* Johnny Depp's Colt 1911A1's were chambered for .45 ACP blanks they represented the real Dillinger's Colt 38 Supers. As of this time there are no 38 Super weapons or blanks in the industry.
* 1928A1 Thompsons the way we have them listed in everything is an error that I have yet figured out how to resolve. The weapons on the show are whats called a 1928 which is the same externally as a 1921 the difference is internal with a heavier actuator to reduce the cyclic rate of the weapon. The horizontal forends were offered on both 1921 and 1921 models of the Thompson. The 1928A1 is a World War II Thompson that had several shortcut in it to increase production during the war and were built by Savage and Auto Ordnance. The first short cut was no more commercial finish on the weapon then the fins were left of the barrel, The rear sight was changed to stamped L shape and not Cutt's comp was the final mod before production switch to the M1. Also if you notice when I have done pages with a Thompson in it the title is Colt 1921A or 1921 AC. The A is for a Thompson without a Cutt's compensator on it and AC is with a Cutt's. For the show there were Colt 1921's (Same weapon from Indy IV) with 1928 internals, 1928A1's refinished to look like a 1921 (Polished Blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built by for the show.
*1903 Colt Pocket Hammer was sent to the production it is unknown if it was used or it was used and the scene was cut.
*Revolvers I know that both the Colt Detectives and Colt Official Police were shipped on the show. I will see if I can help out on the on Saturday when I see the film.
*38 Super Machine Pistol used in the movie was chambered in 9mm blank as 38 Super is not carried by the industry. The weapons was built by ISS for the film.
*BAR these were supplied by Gibbons Ltd and were modified in the Bonny & Clyde configuration by another gunsmith for Gibbons Ltd.

:Hope the answered some of your question by as all things it probably created more. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::John,

::I'm pretty sure that the 1903 Colt Pocket was the gun that Dillinger used for about the last third of the film, in place of the 1911 he had carried earlier. It's the gun he takes with him to the theater and then tries to draw before he gets killed by Purvis and the other agents. I have no idea how accurate this is in real life.

::If some of the guns (including the machine pistol) were supplied by ISS, I might be able to ask my contact at ISS if he can tell me more about that gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Depp had the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer in the Tucson hotel scene. It was brief as Depp sets it down on the table and you can see the tab for the mag catch. But would need to see it on DVD to be sure. Did see a whole was full of Colt Official Police in the Crown Point jail vault. Also the machine gun out side of Crown Point was a Colt Model 1928 Light Machine Gun. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Oops, sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. But I will e-mail ISS and ask. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hard to kill==

::John,

::I got a question to ask. Do you have ''[[Hard to kill]]'' on DVD? If you do, say so. -[[User:speedfilmltd]]

== FC2 SVD ==

By the looks of things it's a bit of both; the forend has twin holes halfway up like the FPK, but it's shaped like the SVD's and the exposed part of the gas piston is smaller like the SVD's, too; other SVD features are things like the cheek pad, the kink in the fire mode switch as opposed to the AK-like switch on the FPK, and so on. Though the weirdest feature the FC2 SVD has is a duckbill three-point flash suppressor like it's an early M16. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

*Actually, I don't think humour in articles is really a bad thing even for a wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Humor this] is a good summary of why. Indeed, I think the Payback article is how all our articles should be; describing how the weapons are shown as well as which ones they are is far more informative and fits in with this Wiki's overall principle of educating readers about firearms in movies. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== sound effects ==

Hey I was just wondering if you knew of a good website from which I could download some good firing sound effects for a movie I'm doing/editing. Preferably there would be sounds for a Thompson (with the higher ROF on the earlier models) and a .44-40 Winchester, as well as pistols. I had considered trying to get some sounds from Youtube but they didn't sound crisp enough when I added them to the film. No big deal, but I was just curious if you knew of anything. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's actually a very good idea to borrow from movies like that, I wish I had thought of it! I might be able to get some crisp Thompson sound shots from ''Dillinger'' or ''Miller's Crossing''. (I'd use ''Public Enemies'' but unfortunately that's not out on DVD yet.) I've been trying to find some sort of BAR to use in mine but I'm afraid I might have to give up on that :-/ Good luck on yours as well - what's it about, if I may ask? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 08:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Shadow==
Hey John, Thanks for the nice words. The Shadow was my first film working in the Industry so it has a special place in my heart. Those custom built Grizzlies were the loudest pistol I have ever tested. I am going to call the owner of them next week and see if I can get a photo of them for IMFDB. I am uploading a special photo tomorrow I know you will like. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 07:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:The Grizzlies in 45 Win Mag were loud with hearing protection on. The Thompsons used on the set started out as Colt 1921's when Tim Curry was firing them but when we switched to the bridge scene the flash did not appear on camera. The cyclic rate on a 1921 was to just fast enough to not show completely on film so we went to the Colt 1928 Thompson we had on hand and the Colt 1921 became a backup. Also on the bridge scene the actor that fired the Thompson tossed away a Smith & Wesson M&P Snub Nose. On the pistols for the head on shot I would have to check and see if I have the paperwork for those. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Forrest Gump ==
Do it. You're much better than me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Mask 1911 ==
This is true, the only real difference is those cocking serrations. To me it has more features common to the CGNM. Most noticeably is the sight rib, with is a part of the slide. I have yet to see this on any other colt variant with the exception of the AMT Hardballer. It is possible that it's a custom series 70, but it's also a possibility that it's an older custom GCNM.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Well I do not know for sure. I have yet to find information on the older (pre series -70). In the mean time, I think the best thing to do, would be to call it a Custom Match Grade Series '70 Colt, because everything on there lends credence to it being a Match grade firearm. I will look for older models though. What do you think? btw, is it just me or does the second picture look like a commander sized gun? The distance from muzzle to the tip of the frame seems too short for a standard. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:Hey John, I agree with that it is not a Gold Cup National Match. Those sights look like a Millet copy of the Novak. The markings on the slide appears to be a Mark IV Series 70 Government Model. So I believe it's a Colt Mark IV Series 70 Government Model with Millet sights. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:::Yeah after some reasearch this is not the NM as I had thought. That D*** sight rib threw me off, never seen another Colt with that, and the markings are a Series 70 (or later) and no series 70 NM had straight serrations. I somewhat think this was a Colt custom shop gun. Sorry, you were right man. But if you change it back please make note it has been customized to hell. Lol, for what was probably paid for the custom job, that gun;s owner probably could have just bought a NM-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:::: Oh that's nice, but don't tell me that, to me a Gold Cup is the epitome of a Colt, and I hate seeing their part's scattered. Granted mine has different grips and grip safety but I didn't do that to it. And Thanks.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== SIG P220 page==

Hey, thanks for working on the SIG P220 series page. One thing, though...the way the format works is that we arrange the movies by date, from most recent to least recent. Also, ditch the parentheses around the year. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Layout Format==
Hey John, Go ahead and try it out to see what everyone thinks. It can be changed back by changing a number. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Talk page archives==
Hey man, I just thought I'd drop you and line and suggest that you seperate the older messages on your talk page into one or more archives. This is the way I do it:
* Create a '''sub-page''' to use as an archive. For example, at [[User_talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1]], and move the text you want to archive there.
* Add the following code to the top of your main talk page, to link to the archive or archives: <nowiki> <div align=right style="float:right;font-size:100%;">'''Archived talk:''' [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1|1]], [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive2|2]] etc.</div> </nowiki>
* Adding a note at the top of the archive pointing out that it's not to be used for discussion, as well as a link back to the main talk page, is good idea as well.
Should make this a lot easier to read. :)--[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 18:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

::The size difference would be negligible, since most of it is only text, but; that's up to you.

::Also, I don't know what the established thing is here, but on every other wiki I've been to it's customary to reply to a message on your own talk page (where the conversation was started), doing it that way it makes it a lot easier to follow the conversation, because it's not spread across pages. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 07:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
*On every Wiki I've been on it's the opposite, because it means the other person recieves the 'you have new messages' notification. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

==Glocks==

I asked about this on another forum a few months back. The answer is...there's no consensus. Some of the Glock fans I talked to told me that the Glock "Generations" refer to the styling only (meaning, any Glock that has rails and finger grooves is a 3rd Gen, while no rails and checked backstraps is 2nd Gen, etc.), while others told me that it does indeed refer to specific models (meaning, a Glock 17 with rails is a 3rd Gen, but a Glock 22 with the same style frame is only 2nd Gen). From what I gather, Glock themselves haven't really taken a specific position on the matter. Also, I have Gun Digest issues from 1999-2000 (when the rail frame/finger grooves models were introduced), and the advertisements for Glocks in them don't make any references to "3rd Generation" or "2nd Generation". So, from what I can tell, the "Generation" nomenclature was invented by fans, not by the company.

Long story short...I stopped caring how people described them, which is why I haven't reverted changes by other users, but I guess the first way of doing it (associating Generations with the styling only) is much easier and makes enough sense. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
==Crimson Rivers==
Thanks for redirecting the page for me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
==Total agreement==
Yeah, I hate pocket pistols too. Due to the fact that I have what amount to bear paws, a full size M1911 would actually suit me better as a pocket gun. Also, the absence of an M4 and FAL in Rainbow Six:Vegas/ Vegas 2 pissed me off-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Modern Warfare 2 ==
I just heard that Modern Warfare 2 has been changed to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 by activision. so could you change the name back, because I can't. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 18:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Glad you like them! And yes, I'm excited to see the other guns, too. There were some pretty rare pieces used in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thinking of adding a brief forward to the Far Cry 2 article ==

As you might have noticed, it's almost finished and I'll have any remaining images tonight. I was thinking of adding a brief introduction it, just explaining firstly the game, then a subheading explaining how the inventory system works and the player actually ''gets'' weapons in the game, since our pages on movies tend to include a shot of how a character first acquires a weapon if there is one [say, Arnie talking to the gun store owner in ''Terminator'']. Seem ok? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Saw ==
I know this'll sound stupid but I'm really squemish and was wondering if any of the saw movies have screen caps. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 20:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== My crack at an incomplete template: ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Template:Incomplete

How's it look? Also, could I request you protect Far Cry 2 now? It's done barring me figuring out any way to jam the flare gun, which seems unlikely since it doesn't even have an idle animation. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Sure! I can ask. Only thing is, does your Dad intend to register the pistol under the NFA? Because I'm pretty sure a pistol with a vertical grip is a Class III AOW. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Found a capture program ==
Power DVD. It's pretty cool. Although the screens look a little dark at times. -protoAuthor

==RE: Face/Off==
Love the page - it turned out great. Caught a lot of guns that I missed when I cleaned it up some a while back (I tend to focus on the "big" guns). You had me for a minute with Eve and Jamie, though...for a second, I thought that your eyes were going bad. :P In somewhat unrelated news, do you plan on redoing the Miami Vice page? I know that's not your favorite movie, but that page is almost begging for some great screencaps...especially the SIG 552. I'd do it, but my software ain't up to snuff. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 01:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

==Pirates==
Feel free to turn it into a decent page. I'm just sick of all these pages made without an ounce of effort in them. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==Armsel Striker page==
John,Someone really messed up the Armsel Stiker page and I'm going to try and fix it. Please protect the page as I don't want to have to fix things again. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Smith & Wesson hammers==
I don't know whether or not you have the answer to this question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I was doing some reading recently and learned Colt's Positive Lock safety, separating the hammer from the firing pin to prevent accidental discharge, was developed fairly early in the twentieth century and applied to Colt revolvers, however, many Smith & Wesson revolvers continued to use the simple spiked hammer design for decades. I was currious if you knew when, if ever, S&W adopted a safer mechanism for their revolvers and if you had any details about the design.
:-Anonymous

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the pin on the hammer of Porter's model 27.]]

==The grip on the Colt 38 Super==

Hey, my contact got back to me on the Colt 38 Super machine pistol from ''[[Public Enemies]]''. I asked him how the rail for the grip was attached to the frame, and he said this:

''"[T]he rail was semi permanently added with some small screws. The screws can be removed from the rail but where they anchored into the frame---those marks will still be there."''

Hope that answers the question. Also, check these out (make sure you click on them all the way, to see how big they are):

[[Image:PBreak-00055.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00056.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00061.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I'm finally going to re-vamp ''[[Point Break]]'', either tonight or tomorrow. It'll be the first movie I've ever done using Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Mislabled team in Transformers ==

I just wanted to let you know you mislabled Cpt. Lennox(Josh Duhamel)'s team As "Ranger". They are not a "Ranger" team they are a Combat Applications Group or as most people know them, A Delta Force unit. I just wanted to let you know, thanks.

==Re:==

Hey, GM, that does indeed look better, and I would love to be able to do the same with the rest of my screencaps. What software do you use? Photoshop?

Unfortunately, one thing I'm starting to realize is that even if I do use Blu-Ray, I won't be able to take screencaps that look quite as good as the disc player is capable of generating. On my HDTV, ''[[Point Break]]'' on Blu-Ray looks very good, but on my laptop, it doesn't come out nearly as well. You may have noticed, for instance, that the resolution of these is only 1166x528 pixels even though the resolution on the disc is 1280x720. This is either due to the limits of VLC Media Player, or my laptop's graphics hardware, or maybe both. And it also may explain why the images aren't quite as sharp as they could be. So if I can edit them manually, I will gladly do so to get the most out of having Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, John, thanks for the offer. I will check out Paint Shop Pro when I have time. Right now, though, I actually haven't had much time to work on ''[[Point Break]]'', either last night or today. I'm probably not going to be doing any more work on this site because I'm celebrating my birthday tonight (which was yesterday), and I have to start working on a term paper tomorrow. But I think I can probably figure it out. I'll make sure to contact you if I have trouble achieving the same effect.

:Also, I tried playing ''[[Push]]'' in Blu Ray on my laptop, and much to my disappointment, it looks WAY worse when I use the screencap function on VLC Media Player (the screencaps come out semi-pixalated). I'm beginning to think it really is an issue with the player and that I'm going to need to find a better screencapping software. VLC just doesn't seem to handle Blu Ray very well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

== Deletion request ==

Can you deleted [[Talk:"BFG"]]? I can't move the talk page there while it still exists, even if it's blank. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== Blackout's minigun ==

I can't see the weapon you're referring to in the two screencaps, are you looking at his refueling probe? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's probably talking about the two gun positions on the sides that a Blackhawk tends to have. Also, out of curiousity; I wrote that extra section on Brawl because he's basically a giant prop, which I think fits in with the general idea of this Wiki to say what's a real weapon and what isn't. Just wondering why it's moved to the talk page? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::Looking at it, it ''does'' look like a Vulcan; the barrels look like they're tapering inwards towards the muzzle in both those shots, though the barrel clamps are a little off. Brawl's would probably be whatever Blackout's is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:Incidentally, what do you think of the BFG page now? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::I've edited the note on the BFR to clear that up a little; "BFR" is obviously a reference to the true meaning of the "BFG" acronym, even though the guns themselves aren't anything like the ''Doom'' one. I tried right-aligned images, but they either aren't lined up, or if they are add a lot of big empty spaces to the article. Also changed the tables, I like yours better. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

==MG42==
Did the Germans use MG42s in X-Men origins Wolverine? You removed MG42 section and I'm not sure if it's the same bunker in other shots. And are bootleg pics allowed? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Neon Genesis Evangelion: Glock 17==

Thanks for pointing that out; I don't understand too well because it says that Glock 17 has "a safety" but then says it doesn't: please explain more clearly (not here, on my user talk page; I don't check in very frequently...or on the Evangelion page). My bad understanding after reading through this is that "the Glock 17 doesn't have an external safety switch, it's got an automatic safety on the trigger so it only fires if you pull the trigger properly; the English dub inserting a line where a character says "safety off" while looking at his glock makes no sense, because there IS no external safety-switch" - is that correct?--[[User:V|V]] 21:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

==Could you help me delete some unnecessary pictures?==
Some arse (aka my brother) got on my account while I was away from it temporarily to do something, and he managed to upload two "unnecessary" images before I got back and chastised him. Could you manage to get them off? If you look at my uploads, it should be obvious which ones shouldn't be there. Thanks! (Dang it forgot this!) -[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 20:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Don't worry John. Matthew took care of it. It was Two pictures oof some beautiful women that T-55's brother put up in his profile. The Women were only in their underwear. Nothing pornographic.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
==Another quote you might enjoy==
:I was talking to my friend last night and I had this to say:''' I held a Glock 22 yesterday (July 20th, 2009) and it felt EXACTLY like an airsoft gun'''. I thought it was funny enough to add to my profile-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
== Yard Work? ==
What the hell?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:Good. I though you were going to help build a house for 2 bucks a hour or something. Now i will leave you to work on Watchmen and sleep. Good night.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Ban==
A user suggested that we ban Lisle202 for a week to teach him a lesson. Is that good? Lisle202 posted bad comments on my talk page. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] ( - )
*Also Lisle202 posted this in [[Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]: "Was das? Das sieht nicht wie ein M1911A1!" I don't know what that language is and what he is saying. This means that Lisle202's grammer is poor as he can speak German and English is his first language. He probably learned from movies like the message posted on my talk. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
:::Kenny99 needs to watch more WW2 movies ;) I barely speak German but even I know that's ''"What's that? That does not look like a M1911A1!"'' ;) regards MPM2008 (''Dieses ist NICHT eine deutschsprachige Web site. Es ist eine englische Sprachenweb site. '') ;)

*Crysis helped me figure out he's peaking German before the second comment. [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
*I'm going to use Translate to tell him to leave as this is english,not German site. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*I'm sorry that this happened. Lisle202 probably doesn't understand what's a bootleg and posted it on X-Men. Then I have to stop him, and we all got into this mess. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Meine Antwort==

Ja, ich verstehe. Ich habe nie davon gehört einer Bootleg vor. - [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]] 21:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
==The Hangover==
I wasn't finished with the page yet. I'll have to redo it in the morning-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I was doing everything other than the pics and poster (I can't do that) when you deleted it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:M'kay. There was a Mossberg 500 and a Jericho 941-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hey do you think a Wilson Combat beavertail piece would fit in my High Standard? I'm tired if wearing gloves when I shoot-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==User: Dillinger ==
Do you know this person? He/she keeps going and removing an a photo of the S&W Model 19 that I posted as a compariosn with the S&W Model 67 on ''[[Escape from New York]]''. I did that so folks could see the difference between the two models. It was a source of controversy over what Snake Plisken was using. What really irritates me is that Dillinger doesn't have a page so I can't even send him a message.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG P220-series==

I wouldn't use the term "standard" to describe models of P220-series guns, unless it's to distinguish them from a special model (i.e two-tone, nickel, railed, etc.) Also, what do you mean about the P226 in "Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay" being a "prop"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
==Thanks for the advice==
:I bruised my hand up pretty bad the first time I shot the gun and one side of the grip safety is really sharp. It's probably because of the size of my hands. I would like to just thank you again for restoring The Hangover . My grandfather is sick with pneumonia and I was at the hospital with him all day and would not have had the time to redo the page.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:What if the gun has a parkerised finish?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:Then I will just have to buy a beavertail for fear of screwing up my grip safety-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Halo article ==

As I just added to the talk page there, the Halo article doesn't actually represent any effort at all on to poster's part; it's copy-pasted from a page on Halopedia. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*There's a few I could see arguments being made for [assault rifle as FN F2000 based, battle rifle the horrible, dishevelled spawn of an XM8 and a TAR-21] and if someone ever wrote a proper article with screenshots that explained some form of "this gun is based on this gun" reasoning, I'd argue we should keep it. That one, though, is worthless plagarism. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==permission==
Can I post X-Men Origins pics from sample clips released by IMDB? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 17:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*Ah nevermind. The clips at IMDB are from TV spots anyway and can be found online. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Vandal detected ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/201.83.221.229

Click the diff. I don't really think that was an improvement. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==
I think you are right on Spider man 3. Flint did indeed use a Smith & Wesson. I am not going to do a Spider Man 2 page as it only shows a Beretta 92FS and a Mossberg 500. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 01:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series==

I hadn't looked at this page in a while, and then I looked at it today and it was incredibly well done. Excellent, excellent job, GM. It looks so much more professional now. Bravo! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Megan Fox Page ==

If an actor or actress has not used any weapons in any films or television yet, DO NOT make a page for them. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
== The Professional ==
I must have bought the stripped down version of Leon, my copy does not have the Roulette Scenes, Ringtrick, Drugdealer, Mathilda's paintball pistol, none of that.
So feel free to screencap it. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:Special deluxe edition huh, that must explain why I only paid like $8.00 for mine. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::I was surprised no-one has done Apocalypse Now yet. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, go ahead. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 15:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== MSN ==
Do you have MSN John?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

==Running Scared, my page setup==
I think I got the story with S&W 36 done right . It goes through so much crap. Also thanks for setting up my page. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== Year of the Dragon ==

Wait on that until Apocalypse Now is pretty much all done up.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== You're right ==
I never heard of the RPD before COD4. -[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Se7en and spoilers ==

Hey GM, I just wanted to say I thought you had a great idea for concealing the spoilers on the page for [[Se7en]]. I always hoped there was a way to explain how the gun was used so that people who had seen the film would understand but people who hadn't wouldn't have it ruined for them. Also great work with the page, as always, it's coming along very well and definitely needed your skills! Do you think we should start maybe going through some other films (when we have time) with major spoilers in the descriptions and changing them to fit the format for the descriptions on Se7en? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 01:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for the help ==

Just wanted to say thanks for helping with the [[RPD]]. I'd rather ask someone than put in "haven't a clue" when uploading stuff and hoping someone else will figure it out. Originally I frequented this site and eventually joined mainly for the Sci-Fi stuff, so I'm not always to good with older stuff. I checked through all the rifles but didn't think to check machine guns for this. -[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]]

==Constantine==
I was wondering if you thought that Rachel Weisz's gun is a 6906. It might be something different, but I don't have any of the models that it may be (some others have been suggested), so I am not an expert on what it may be. It looks a little BIG for a 6906. Just wondering if you wanted to give it a shot. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Another vandal ==

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/97.102.92.187 97.102.92.187] decided it would be a really great idea to [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User%3AS%26Wshooter&diff=157413&oldid=156790 vandalise S&W Shooter's user page] and make nonsense edits to a couple of other articles. Wants a good hard nuking. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 14:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thing Thing==
While I was surfing for more pages to edit, I found this page while surfing. This is actually a flash game and it doesn't belong here. Can you delete it? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Glow, not blow. ;)==

Oops! Kinda funny though.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, it looks great! Only one suggestion: Maybe one more PE image (i.e. the one with Depp and the 1911s)? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== An idea I had. ==

Rather than putting trivia entries on talk pages, which makes them a little tricky to find, why not make a seperate page? The idea I had was something like naming the article after the main one with (trivia) on the end, putting it in "category: movie trivia", then adding a template at the top or bottom of the main article; say the "would you like to know more" button from ''Starship Troopers''. This would read something like:

(Would you like to know more? image) This article has a '''trivia page''' (and that would be a link to it, working like the duplicate template).

It would advertise your hard work more clearly too, rather than just hoping people stumble across it on the discussion page. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 03:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==Walther PPK revisited==
A while back you corrected a glaring mistake I made in claiming the [[Walther PPK]] had a slide release. Once again I would like to thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding but I recently began to wonder; if the the PPK does not have a release, does its slide even lock back when empty? I realize that these two features are not necessarily mutually inclusive, however many guns from the PPK's time period did not lock when empty, so I am unsure what to think. Any information you could provide would be helpful.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== What the hell happened to Perfect Dark? ==

I know that the guns in the game were kind of fictitious, but a TON of them were based off real guns, so can we put it back? [[User:PPK1911HiPower|PPK1911HiPower]] 20:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Overzealous Deletion ==
I would just like to say that in the last few days it appears that some have become extremely quick to label an article as incomplete or recomend it for deletion only a few hours after it was created. Many people lay a basic foundation for a page and come back later to expand it. Therefore, I believe there should be more restrictions on timelimits and level of content before anyone can come along and recomend that someone else's article be eliminated.

On an unrealated subject, if adding pictures to an existing article which contains only text, if someone mentions a 1911 was used without giving any more details as to the weapon's appearance can any 1911 image be added (so long as the model isn't too obscure) until a more precise identification can be made? This same dilemma occurs with M16, MP5, and Kalashnikov models which are not given detailed identification.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::Disagree entirely. There's no excuse whatsoever for dumping trash pages on the site, and the only thing that will discourage it is if it's speedily removed; even if 'many people' do this [and I'd dispute that], we should make it clear this is not how articles should be constructed; a page with no useful information, no effort put into formatting and no screenshots is pointless, and hoping a turd will turn into a diamond if you leave it alone will soon get you a backyard full of turds. ''Anyone'' can take the time and effort to write up an article to an acceptable standard in a word processor before posting it; anyone who does not is going to have their article removed. Your actions of trying to get these pages up to a standard where they are not instantly deleted are laudable, but misguided; you shouldn't be jumping to help out people who won't put the effort in themselves, you should be working on your own projects. We don't want people coming to the site with the mentality that they can put no effort at all into a page because someone else will fix it for them later, because that essentially makes us servants running around after lazy idiots. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 00:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Actor Pages==
Sorry about that. I wasn't familiar with the new table format and I always forget to add the categories. I've fixed most of them now, so check them out and let me now if they are sufficient. Thanks for your guidance. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rules ==
Hey John. It seems you are going to write some rules. Can i help you with that?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Last Boy Scout ==

Hi Gunmaster, please check the discussion page of Last Boy Scout ;)

PS: Waiting to fix my English, lately instead of doing full pages I'm adding information or photos in existing pages. I hope to do well. For example after a year I have found the true name of the custom revolver in Hard Rain, my first page. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

==Payback once again==
Somebody has once again changed the ''[[Payback]]'' article to say that Porter's main gun is a S&W Model 29 instead of a Model 27. Being as this exact same question has see-sawed back and forth several times I was hoping you could verify it. Also I asked you some questions a few days ago that I think got buried in the all the posts. I will restate them below:

:A while back you corrected a glaring mistake I made in claiming the Walther PPK had a slide release. Once again I would like to thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding but I recently began to wonder; if the the PPK does not have a release, does its slide even lock back when empty? I realize that these two features are not necessarily mutually inclusive, however many guns from the PPK's time period did not lock when empty, so I am unsure what to think. Any information you could provide would be helpful.

:If adding pictures to an existing article which contains only text, if someone mentions a 1911 was used without giving any more details as to the weapon's appearance can any 1911 image be added (so long as the model isn't too obscure) until a more precise identification can be made? This same dilemma occurs with M16, MP5, and Kalashnikov models which are not given detailed identification.

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Response==
Thank you for answering my questions although I just wanted to make it clear that I am not the one who changed the ''[[Payback]]'' article to state Porter's weapon was a Model 29. Based on your response I couldn't determine if you were frustrated with me or just in general. I don't think the revolver is a .44 Magnum either but couldn't positively refute the change which is why I asked for your help.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== Gator Gun ==

Hey, good job identifying the so-called "Gator Gun" from ''[[Miami Vice]]''. That was an extremely tough one to identify and I'm impressed that you figured it out. Great job! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 22:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Question concerning Appaloosa 1878 8 Gauge ==

John, I'm looking for information concerning the 1878 8 gauge used in Appaloosa.
Could you please contact me at wv50bmg@gmail.com
Thank you for your time - [[User:Mrwhite1|Matt]] 19:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Obscure Colt Snake Series ==

Hey, just wondering if you have some good pics of the complete colt snake series. If so, they would be greatly appreciated.

thank you,

- [[User:sgt kickass]]

== Can you believe this guy? ==

Yournamehere thinks he can come to my page and change the format I prefer because he doesn't like it. How is my format not orderly. It's pissing me off. I mean look at my [[Black Lagoon]] Page. How is it better now than before when I had sections for which guns is which. I mean our differences aside, I didn't go to your Mail Call page and changed it. It's YOUR page. I don't believe I have the right to mess with how you like it. I just made some suggestions and Yournamehere decides to change my page the way he wants it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Revamp Mail Call ==

I'll think about it. It is a rather daunting task to put everything in the category that I am familiar with. As long as you have no problem with it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:50, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

==Lock'n Load: Pistols==
I had some questions relating to the most recent episode of ''[[Lock 'n Load With R. Lee Ermey]]''. You identified the ".38 double action Colt revolver" as a [[Colt New Service]] 1898, yet according to Ermey the weapon was adopted in 1894 and looked slightly different from the New Service. However, Ermey did mix up a couple of minor facts througout the episode and the difference in appearance could be the result of lighting, angle, or my own error, I just wanted to ask if you were certain about your identification. I was also curious if you knew exactly what .38 round this weapon fired as there were many around at the turn of the century: .38 short Colt, Long Colt, S&W, and special are the ones I can think of off the top of my head and I have no idea which was most common during this period.

I also was confused by the Gunny's statement that the Beretta 92 series of pistols was introduced in 1975, as I thought I read somewhere that they were not introduced until the early 1980's.

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Lock'n Load Response==
In response to the revolver in question, I did a little digging and discovered that the weapon was the [[Colt Model 1892]] as this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_M1892] testifies that the weapon was adopted in the early 1890's as the Military's first double action revolver, which Ermey mentioned the revolver he used was. It turns out that you were correct about the weapon being chambered in .38 Long Colt. I will post an image below so that if you wish you can change the Lock'n Load article in your preffered format as I have had bad luck with television articles lately.

[[Image:Colt Model 1892 Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Model 1892 - .38 Long Colt]]

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

24: Redemption

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Mcguinness: /* Glock 19 */

24: Redemption

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Mcguinness: /* Glock 19 */

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Mcguinness: uploaded a new version of "Image:Mp5 111.jpg": Mp5 in game

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Mcguinness:

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Mcguinness:

User:Mcguinness

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Mcguinness: /* Pages I've helped with */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

I came across the site when i was trying to find out what the sniper used in [[Die Hard]] was and liked the site a lot!

My Favourite gun is the [[M14 Rifle]]

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]

[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]

[[M14 Rifle]]

[[Heckler & Koch Mark 23]]

Heckler & Koch Mark 23

2009-08-17T03:20:42Z

Mcguinness:

'''The Heckler & Koch Mark 23 pistol appears in the following movies, video games, and anime used by the following actors:
[[Image:Mk23.jpg|thumb|right|400px|H&K Mk 23 Mod 0 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:H&KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎ |thumb|right|400px|H&K Mk 23 Mod 0 with (real) Knights Armament suppressor .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SOCOM.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Airsoft Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0 .45 ACP with Tokyo Marui replica of a Knights Armament suppressor and AN/PEQ-6 Laser Aiming Module]]
[[Image:TanMark23.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch Mark 23 "SOCOM" .45 ACP with desert tan frame (photo from Weapons Specialists, Ltd).]]

== Specifications ==
'''Type:''' Semi Automatic Pistol

'''Weight:''' 1.47kg loaded

'''Cartridge:''' .45 acp

'''Magazine Capacity:''' 12 rounds

'''Effective range:''' 50 metres

'''Place of Origin:''' USA/Germany

'''Design Year:''' 1991

=== Film ===

* [[Kurt Russell]] as Sgt. Todd in ''[[Soldier]]''

* [[Daz Crawford]] as Lighthammer in ''[[Blade II]]''

* U.S. Navy SEALs in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' (with and without silencers)

* [[Will Smith]] as Dr.Robert Neville in ''[[I Am Legend]]''

* [[Christian Bale]] as John Connor in ''[[Terminator Salvation]]''

* [[Tony D'Amario]] as K2 in ''[[District B13]]''

=== Television ===

* Code 5 (Vampire) Hunters in ''[[Ultraviolet]]''

* A villian in ''[[Burn Notice]]''

=== Video Games ===
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|[[Rainbow Six: Vegas]]||||w/ optional laser sight or suppressor||||2006
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|[[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]]||||w/ optional laser sight or suppressor||||2008
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|[[Metal Gear Solid]]||SOCOM||w/suppressor & LAM unit||||1998
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|[[Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes]]||SOCOM||w/suppressor & LAM unit||||2004
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|[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]||||w/ laser & suppressor||||2001
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|[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]]||||||||2008
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|[[Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops ]]||||w/ laser pointer||Found in expansion version||2006
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|[[Blacksite: Area 51]]||||||||2007
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|[[Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix]]||US SOCOM||||||2002
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|[[Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain]]||||||||2004
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|[[Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror]]||||||||2006
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|[[Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow]]||||||||2007
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|[[Project IGI 2: Covert Strike]]||SOCOM||w/ Knight's Armament Suppresor & AN/PEQ-6 laser sight||||2003
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|[[Delta Force: Task Force Dagger]]||Mk 23||w/ laser pointer & suppressor||||2002
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|[[Delta Force: Land Warrior]]||.45 SOC/.45 SOC SD||w/ laser pointer & suppresor||||2000
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|[[Delta Force 2 (VG)]]||.45 Pistol||w/ suppressor||||1998
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|[[Hellforces]]||||w/ AN/PEQ-6 laser sight & suppressor||||2004
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|[[Dark Sector]]||Tekna 9mm / Tekna Burst||Basic version has a laser aiming module (not an AN/PEQ-6), Burst is a fictional burst-firing version with extended mag and laser module||Both have "Mark 24" engraved on the slide instead of "Mark 23"||2008
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=== Anime ===

* ISSP bodyguards in ''[[Cowboy Bebop]]'' (episode "Pierrot Le Fou", fitted with a Wilcox Laser Aiming Modules)

* A U.S. Navy Admiral in ''[[Full Metal Panic]]''

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

User talk:Gunmaster45

2009-08-17T03:12:20Z

Mcguinness: /* Hey */

'''Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the ''bottom'' of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks.''' - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Help! ==
I was trying to fix the [[Uncharted: Drake's Fortune]] page by adding some pictures I have, but i don't know how to upload them! I asked S&W Shooter, and he said to ask you.

==Hey==
Sorry about the Brandon Soo Hoo thing. I was busy working on summer school stuff I had to do for the summer. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Future Weapons==
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
==Helicopter in The Marine==
Hey GM,
That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks==
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==Wanted==
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to [[Quantum of Solace]] go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
==Quantum of Solace==
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.

==Dirty Harry==

Just so you know, [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

==1911==

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.

:Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do ''so'' much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?

::It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.

::Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in ''[[Training Day]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]'' don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

==New stuff==

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the [[AK-47]] page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

:I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.

::Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?

:My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.

::OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".

: "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

== Your articles ==

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the ''[[Heat]]'' page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for ''[[Hollow Point]]'' or ''[[Last Action Hero]]'', but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.

:As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

== Current stuff ==

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your ''[[Hollow Point]]'' page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in ''[[The Fugitive]]''.

As far as the grenade launcher in ''[[Hollow Point]]'', it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.

::You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the [[Hollow Point]] page.

I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

==Heat==

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

::It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to ''you''.

::Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.

::From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.

:::So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.

::::All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.

::::Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on ''[[The Rock]]'' page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

==Defense Technologies==

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

[[Image:Federallabs37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (''[[RoboCop 3]]'' is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

== Great Work! ==

Thanks for uploading the poster for the [[Catch a Fire]] page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Response ==

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then [[Bad Boys II]], and it's MoviePropMaster2008's [[District B13]] with 37 guns. [[User: Alienqueen11]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the [[Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem]] page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on [[Toy Soldiers]]. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== About Language ==

Hey, I want to say good work on [[Heartbreak Ridge]], there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, [[User: Bunni|Bunni]], the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

:OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from ''Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels''), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

== MGS4 M1911A1 ==

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgnpNaJ6M0]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== .50 Caliber 1911? ==

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

[[Image:M1.50GI.jpg]]

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

== Nice work on Platoon ==

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)==
..''"how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?" ''
: I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

..''"I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."''
:Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

..''"Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."''
: I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

..''"Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."''
: The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.

::''Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better.'' -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Last Action Hero==
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

== Nice job ==

Hey, nice job on the [[Jurassic Park]] page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put [[A Beautiful Mind]] on your Pages Built list. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Re: Nice Job ==

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. [[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==M1911 shots by MPM2008==
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Uzi ==

About the [[Uzi]] page, you might want to leave a note on [[User: Bunni|Bunni's]] talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Training Day Revolver ==

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes.
Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg]]

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.

==Call of Duty 4 Pictures==

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

:Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'

hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.

Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki

== Re: Saving Private Ryan ==

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).

:Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.

::I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.

:::The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

==Good call on the xXx==
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329774/]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

==Dibbs==
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

== About the screencaps on COD4. ==

How did get them? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re:XXX==

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on ''[[Kelly's Heroes‎]]''. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on ''[[Where Eagles Dare]]''.

==On Kelly's Heroes==
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

==M1911s==
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Are you sure? ==

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

::What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

==Reign of Fire==
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008

==577 pic==
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

== The Punisher ==

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on [[Hard Boiled]] because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The [[Sin City]] talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''Tears of the Sun'' ==

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Re:Tybalts Gun==

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

==Ak recog==
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Jarhead'' M60E3 ==

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the [[M60 machine gun]], it has always had two [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240 machine gun]]s; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The [[Browning M2]] heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==animated gifs==
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.

[[Image:HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif]]
MPM2008

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Reign of Fire==
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

==...==

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008

::Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.

::BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

== Jaws ==

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping [[Jaws]]? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Top Pages ==

Very cool idea - nice work. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping [[Four Brothers]], and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]], so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Jaws]] is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==thanks==

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

[[Image:MyP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.

:As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...

:BTW, very nice job on the ''[[Last Man Standing]]'' page! Though I would recommend maybe being a ''little'' less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==crap==
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==Empty Pages I Created==
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. [[User:CyclopsScott|CyclopsScott]] 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==Western guns==
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hotel Rwanda==
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== The World Is Not Enough (video game) ==

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

==FYI==
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Walther P99 page ==

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

==Hollowpoint==
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

== American Gangster page ==

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

==the subject of "dibbs"==
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.

There you go, I cut the black bars off the [[Hostage]] screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on [[Hot Fuzz]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==fun gun==
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm]]
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Excellent work!! ==

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

==Movies to screengrab==
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

==Remington 870==
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Morita Rifle==
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bangkok Dangerous==
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==tropic thunder==
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==590==
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==You're not gonna believe this==
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==On some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Smokin' Aces ==

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have [[Smokin' Aces]]? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==New screencaps==
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Workload==
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:U.S. Marshals==

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== anonymous users ==

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Molotovs==
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

==Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics==
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)]]

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== the other Glock ==
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

==Alien Nation==
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ''Jingle All the Way'' ==

Thanks for the compliments on ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== The Dark Knight ==

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do [[The Dark Knight]], you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

::I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Got it for you==
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm]]

==T2==
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps on Commando==
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape. ==

You can do it.I don´t mind.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen ==
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

== Re: Scarface ==

I'll try to get more shots for [[Scarface]] when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on [[Mail Call]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.6.6.30]

This made me really pissed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a ''severe'' warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

==24==

Will you be around today to screen cap [[24]] Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on [[24]]. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on [[24]] the page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Lord of War==

Eh, depends. Main question is, how ''many'' additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the ''[[Lord of War]]'' page is one of the site's most popular.

::I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Tyrannasaurus ==

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Godfather ==

Thanks, ''[[The Godfather]]'' is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: The Departed==

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on ''[[Get Smart]]''! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), ''and'' I got two days off from work, ''and'' I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.

:Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Good suggestions! ==

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of ''[[The Getaway (1972)]]'' so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: The Untouchables ==

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Mail Call ==

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

I made some edits to it but they got erased. Why? I'm still working on screencapping yet, i didn't have enough time to add gun pics and you didn't add them. P.S When will you be getting season 3-8? [[User:Drjuki]]

Oh, ok. I thought you ment don't add any seasons since you were going to do that. I didn't know you were going to through the earlier seasons. You know who. Drjuki.

== The Untouchables ==

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

== XXX ==

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in [[Armageddon]], [[XXX]] and [[Death Race]]. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from [[We Were Soldiers]] that we had two miniguns mount on.

== Video Games ==

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

== Iron Man CAR15 ==

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M60E1 machine gun ==

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M1 Garand question ==

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the '''M60''', I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
[[Image:M60SnapShotOnSet.jpg]]
:Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

==Re:Hitman==

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances.
[[User: Charon68]]

==Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" ([[Lance Henriksen]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.]]
[[Image:Remington1875Q&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod ([[Gene Hackman]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.]]
[[Image:Remington1875SilverQ&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.]]

Like it? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I got more, but they're not western related ==
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Replacing some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Your page format==
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==SOCOM Mk 23==
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Hitman==

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gunner313 ==

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Iron Giant'' ==

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shoot 'Em Up.==

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==push==
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Legends of the Fall ==

Hi, I congratulate you for you work!
Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film?
Sorry for my bad english.

== Legends of the Fall (again) ==

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

== shotgun in Thunderball ==

Hey I just posted screenshots from ''[[Thunderball]]'' and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a [[Remington 870]]) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Tanks for your answer ==

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.

==SIG==

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for ''Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft'' (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Rundown==
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are '''not''' what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also '''replace''' any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Blank revolver question==
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shit==

I just did an edit on ''[[The Rundown]]'' while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Norinco SKS Sporter==
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

==Blank revolvers==
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

==The Rundown==
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shootemup==
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Legends of the Fall==
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

==Street Kings==

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the ''[[Street Kings]]'' page. And I literally just mean a few:

*(1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
*(2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
*(3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect.
--[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.

:Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates ([[Common]]) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Unforgiven Shotgun==

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, Check out the photo of the W. Richards that I just posted. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Dust hit gun==
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

==Review on Wanted==
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. '''Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. ''' I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that '''Darth Vader is Luke's father''', some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==watermark==
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
'''Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1'''
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== some Westerns ==

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for ''[[The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford]]'' and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on ''[[American Outlaws]]'' which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: Boondock Saints==

Dude, armory scenes in movies ''always'' suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' or ''[[The Matrix]]''. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an ''extremely'' regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - ''[[Menace II Society]]'' and ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1897==

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Appaloosa==
Hey John
Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
:No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix==
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little ''''squished''''. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-DEa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-Cheetah2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-CheetahA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Admins==
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
::Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

== Speakeasy804 ==

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Need your help here==
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

[[Image:MMS-Twin-Silenced-Pistolsa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]
[[Image:MMS-TwinSilencedPistols2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]

Here are the candidates that people suggested:
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkCamperSS.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmark2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk II - Silenced]]
[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II]]

What do you think? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
::When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith==
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
[[Image:MMS-QuoteCorrect.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.]]
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

==Colt 25?==
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Re: Sgt. York ==
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant==
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Pages Lock Out==
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with [[The Wild Geese]] can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== 1911's and other models. ==

Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an '''old''' cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.

I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned ''seven'' of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.

Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.

However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a [[Webley Mk VI]] - which is my pride and joy.

I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?

Talk to you later. [[Jcordell]]

Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a [[Savage 99]] rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. [[Jcordell]]

== Thanks for your help ==

Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]
Ah - ha! Got it.

The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.

== Winchester Model 1895 ==

I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.

I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== My job here ==

Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Colt Troopers. ==

Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.

==Colt Mustang==
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008

==S&W MkII Hand Ejector==
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

==orphaned image==
What is this from? It's not linked to any page.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg
MPM2008

==Bergmann MP18==
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve

== ''CSI: Miami'' S&W Semi-Auto ID ==

I don't think the pistol shown on ''[[CSI: Miami]]'' is a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5946|S&W 5946]]. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4046|Smith & Wesson 4046]] does have a right-handed safety though. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

==In the Line of Fire Llama==
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve

==XM16E1==

Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve

==Idea for New Page==
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

== M4 vs. M4A1 ==

The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Young Guns ==

Great job with ''[[Young Guns]]''! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't ''something'' they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:: Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.

==RE: RoboCop 2==

Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."

Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== re: Nice Work ==

Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on ''The Untouchables'' page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that!
Also, I'll peruse ''The Godfather'' sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake.
On a different note, great job with the first ''Dirty Harry''. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have ''Casino Royale'' so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get ''Quantum of Solace'' pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is ''Never Say Never Again'' which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with ''Magnum Force'' as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:::I never saw ''Flashpoint'' but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw ''Magnum Force'' is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Gunmaster,
Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman==
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== KAC SR-25 ==

If you read the paragraph at the top of the [[Knight's Armament SR-25]] page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hello other-young-gun-nut ==

I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--[[User:GlocksRevilACP|GlocksRevilACP]] 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Beretta 9000S==
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008

== Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp ==

If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp ''Sudden Impact'' and ''The Dead Pool'' as well because they are pretty weak.

== Hostage Molotovs ==

While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.

:That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.

==Colt 1903 new page==
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT Pistols page==
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
:: Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. ''"No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!"'' So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Last crusade==
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redacted==
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.

::Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM

==Thanks for the reply==
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008

==addendum==
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008

== Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]] ==

You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in [[The Enforcer]]. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]]. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Great. thanks. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question==
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==VIP==
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008

==VIP gun help==
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008

== Diamondback or Python ==

Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping ''[[The Enforcer]]'', so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, ''[[Magnum Force]]''. What do you think? [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in ''[[The Enforcer]]''. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in ''[[Magnum Force]]''. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Outlaw Josey Wales ==

Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?==

Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

==Collateral==
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:: John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
* ''[[Miracle at St. Anna]]'' filling out the page
* ''[[Bullets or Ballots]]''
* ''[[Warbirds]]'' A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
* ''[[Lady Gangster]]''

Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.

==Winchester 1892==
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Category:Flare Pistol==
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks for the assist. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM

==Seecamp==
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008

==RE:==

Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go ''too'' crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the ''[[Belly]]'' AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bourne Identity (1988) ==

Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008

==Did you take this picture?==
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg

== Help ==

How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? [[User:Drjuki]]

Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. [[User:drjuki]]

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'll remember to use move instead, some anonymus user created the page before I tried redirecting it. I know I haven't done any work in a long time, once in awhile I'll find a movie I want to screencap, right now I'm thinking about uploading some extra shots for [[I Am Legend]]. Btw, good job on you most recent pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I found a few good shots in the movie that were missed, although I'm not completely comfortable about replacing someone else's screengrabs, so I might put some screenshots on the talk page for anyone who's more comfortable with replacing them. Also, I've seen Ctone's blog too, and he does a great job, especially with his screenshots. I think I might get started screencapping now since I have alot of free time. Thanks for the Redirect btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I got so far, and I'll be uploading more tomorrow as well. If you have any suggestions for screenshots, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

==Madness Combat==
Does anyone where i could post a madness combat page, i have like tewlve pages filled with guns and I HAVE TO POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Drjuki]]

No i know i can't post them here, i was just wondering if you knew a site where i could. [[User:Drjuki]]

== I Am Legend ==

Sure, I'll get pictures when I put the DVD in.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Call of duty 2 ==

Hey i don't plan these i just add pics if it needsem or add text if it needs em. I don't even have half the games i edit on here. [[User:Drjuki]]

Yes I was. [[User:Drjuki]]

== RE: COD4(DS) ==
Beacause I've seen some site that listed them. IMFDB Isn't the only site that has weapons in Anime, Movies, TV, And Video Games you know. Sure it's the best one but, you know there are some sites. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S The reason I don't write very well is because I am not used to writing without spellcheck, and grammer check. [[User:Drjuki]]

That is a good I will do that. [[User:Drjuki]]

== Pictures ==

I have a question, if there was a movie where a guy got his head blown off but he had a gun in his hand, would users be allowed to take that pic and other gruesome images? [[User:Drjuki]]

Would you be able to tell me a list of pages that have those? Not all them but just the ones you know. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

== Contact Info? ==

Hey GM45, I was wondering, do you have any instant messenger programs or the like? I'd like to chat with you off-site if possible. You can send your contacts to the email address listed on my userpage if you'd prefer to keep from getting spammed. Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey um, i have a website that has a chatroom on it it's kinda a failed project it's not done yet, if so how's may 9th 3:30?
heres the link http://charlietheunicornstuff.synthasite.com/

You know what f**k that [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

==Re:Appaloosa==
Hey John, Glade you like the film I enjoyed it. Most armories will not give credit to the designer or build for fear they client will go direct to the designer next time around. I only have one armory that tells everyone what I build for them. I will work on those 8 Gauge photos this weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Not sure who did the sound for the show. They most likely re-recorded all the gunfire as they plan to make a second movie. That way the will have their own sound library for the next show.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Appaloosa screencaps. ==

Looking forward to your screencaps. It's a great movie and the page has been needing some help. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Probably one of the best westerns I've seen in years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:Hey John, Nice work on the [[Appaloosa]] page. I am going though the build photos for the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] now and hope to post late tonight the photos and some background with them. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

== When we're gone... ==
What are we going to do when are syops and admins start leaving? When we die, (not literally but not go here anymore) what will happen? Will we appoint new ones? (P.S I've helped out every call of duty page, so thats 10 pages!) Or will we just shut down this site? Will we start making pages for Halo and gears of war when lasers come out? Drjuki.

== Flash ==

Could we make a seperate IMFDB for just flash? We could call it IFFDB (Internet Flash Firearms DataBase)? Drjuki.

==Can You use this anywhere?==
[[Image:TaurusPT92-2tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Taurus PT92 Two Tone - 9mm]]
Another MPM 2008 Image.... ;) MPM2008

==More for your Shootem up page==
[[Image:TaurusPT92AF-Reverse2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Reverse Two Tone Taurus PT92AF - 9mm]]
The arm has a reverse two tone gun like this one. I think this image can help. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==blanks==
I am super busy today, but I am going to look at one of our Hollywood blank and perhaps take a pic of how the cardboard wad is constructed and send it off. regards. MPM2008

== Deadwood ==

Hey GM, I just screencapped the first season of ''[[Deadwood]]''. Since you're a pro with that time period, I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a look at all if you have a chance just to check to see if I've been getting things right? Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 21:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about my late response, I've been busy between work and finishing the Deadwood page. It's all done now so I'll go through looking for errors and discrepancies, etc., etc. I appreciate your information added about the S&W Models 1 and 2, which I'll try to sort out once I can find good gun pictures for each to use. In response to grouping the SAAs together, I would do so (as I normally do) but since I took a large number of screencaps, I decided it would be at least a semi-logical way to split it up. The ''[[Joe Kidd]]'' page looks great of course; very interesting to see a C96 used in a Western (although it's a shame they used the typical Hollywood bottomless magazine!) Finally, I'm very impressed by "Gladys" your 1911! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taken==
Go ahead, John. I was planning on going to get it, but a shitload of work just came my way. Happy hunting. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==Joe Kidd==
Hey John, Looking over the Joe Kidd page you built looks nice. I believe that the Colt 1877 Lightning you show in the capture is a Colt 1878 Double Action in 45 Long Colt. Also the Lightning photo you posted in the Lightning page for Kill Bill is a Cimarron Lightning Single Action. If thats the case does that go in the Single Action Army page like the Uberti's? -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, You are correct I would only add strange Uberti, Hartford and others that were used like the Hartford Model Sheriff and Pinkerton that we used in the Streets of Laredo. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Admin ==
Hey how many pages do you have to edit or make to become a admin? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Matrix: Revolutions ==
Hey, I didn't know whether to put this here or on the Matrix page, but I'll put it both places.
I'd kind of like to do M:R but I saw that you had it down on your to do list. It's yours if you want it, but you might have bigger stuff on your plate. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 05:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, go ahead! --[[Special:Contributions/207.108.206.237|207.108.206.237]] 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: your guns ==
I'd never taken a look at your firearm collection before, but did today. You have some awesome stuff. Being a sucker for 1911's I really like Gladys, and the "Spanish Llama XV" guns. This is really not a post of any real value, but damn. Those are amazing.
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood's page ==

Would you have a problem if I began organizing some of the larger actor pages, such as Eastwood's, chronologically and by film to make them easier? I'd leave the same photos and everything but I just feel the pages should be in some sort of order. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 23:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Desert Eagle Love ==

Thanks, and yes, I know that it is a pretty impractical weapon (don't rub it in), but a few folks I know just like that weapon. I'm just a big fan of large caliber weapons, and I'm just one of those few who just, well you know. Anyways, I'm honored to have become a user on this site. P.S. Thanks for the pointer!
- [[User:500Magnum]]

==I owe you an apology on the Model 60==
Well, today I saw the owner of the Model 36 in satin nickel and he said 'that's not in satin nickel. I was talking about another gun. That's stainless', WTF? That's not what I remembered, but oh well. I popped it open and it is still marked Model 36, so I queried more about why it was marked Model 36-2 and he 'forgot' to mention that it was a factory missmark and thus was collectible. So my tirade about the Model 60 being a custom Model 36 seems a bit unnecessary. I showed him the IMFDB site and he basically concurred, there is nothing about that gun that makes it different from a Model 60 other than the weird factory model stamping which no one can see. I'm no S&W expert, but he set me straight and pointed out that I was wrong to complain about others naming it a 'model 60' when for all intents and purposes, it looks just like one. So I owe you an apology regarding the Model 36/Model 60. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== I like your pictures ==

I'd also like to comment on your pictures, and I think those are pretty good. You must have worked hard to get them.
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
What I meant to say was your screencaps were good; excuse me. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

== New IMFDB? ==
This is hyothetical, say there were some movies I liked and I wanted just them on a site. So I make a website with let's say the matrix. now let's say I copied and pasted descriptions and copied pics from imfdb. Would I be able to do that if I say that I got them from Imfdb.org? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 22:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok That wasn't hypothetical, I'd already done it and wanted to make sure I could keep it. Don't worry. I deleted it. no more. I hope you don't sue me for everything i've got. (P.S. I'm only 10 so that won't work very well.) (P.S.S. Why won't you shoot the nambu?

== I am Legend ==

I got the last screenshots for I Am Legend up, and sorry for the really long delay. how does it look now?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and no problem, I'm glad those templates are gone too, I don't understand why Dragon would even use them when they looked bad, plus we never needed them anyway, I mean it's not that hard to make a simple phrase at the top of each page. About the forum, I signed up for it a few months ago, but I lost my password, I'll be sure to sign up for it again eventually since it appears to be really active. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Pineapple Express ==

Thanks for warning me about the widescreen bars. It took a while, but I removed all of the bars on each of the caps I saved. Tommorrow, I'll replace the ones I aleready posted, and continue my work on the page. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep this in mind for my future postings.
--[[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 12:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Comments in Articles ==
I have relocated several comments of yours from the body of the article to the discussion page. All signed comments should be posted in the discussion page. Otherwise, great work, keep it up. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandals ==
What would you do if some one erased mail call. Like they made a account just to vandalise. and if i put sucks on Twilight, would it count as vandalism? P.S can you tell me when you're done with mail call? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't you think you got it when you're done with mail call, could you tell me that you're done on my talk page? (P.S. I've looked at my contributions and i've made 545 edits! sadly none of them are screencaps, so I can't be a admin yet :( and hey I made a spongbob page (for fun) and I can't beleve how fast it dissapeared! could you tell me who and what happened to it? and hey how old were you when you got made an admin and when you joined?) (P.S.S. The reason I didn't make any screencaps is that my dad won't show me the program that we have because he doesn't like guns and sorry I'm asking so many questions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Help with Identifying Guns ==
hi, I was talking to a friend and he said that he saw 2 unusual weapons on CSI, i was wondering if you could tell me whether or not they were real

the first was a gun that, somehow was able to shoot 2 rounds into the same wound whilst only clicking the trigger once. (sorry if its quite vague); and the other was a gun that was known on CSI:Miami as the "Vapouriser", in the show it turned a person into a mist of blood.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 22:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man ==

thanks for the help man, a said to my friend I thought that the "vapouriser" wasnt real, but he was adamant about it.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== "Gladys" ==
: That is one nice 1911 you have there.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Last Boy Scout Page==
I read on page ''The Last Boy Scout'' that you want to restore it. I had not noticed that your message and I have already prepared all the screencaps and some information (work at 50%). Can I prepare that page or want it you? Or you want my screencaps and you write the description because I spoke bad English? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
::I think that your work will certainly be better than mine. I asked you just to know what was your job. If you're ready to upload good work! ^_^ - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Mail Call ==

I know you don't listen to me and use this to make the score bigger, but counting the REPEATS of weapons already establish. The Garand, the M16 repeats at least 3 times and you counted them into the score. That's just stupid. It's like if I take the 4 seasons of the Unit an counted 1 for every time I see a firearm, even though I have already established that we do see it from season 1. I put down M4s, but I don't do it 4 different times because this rifle has appeared in all the seasons, I just put images of how the rifle looks from each season under the M4 category. I label each section, handguns, SMGs, rifles, etc and put weapons under each regardless of the seasons they've appeared in. The format you've done for Mail Call makes it very messy and kind confusing and VERY unnecessarily LONG. I'm not dissing your efforts, I just think you over did it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Commando Tranquilizer Pistol==
Hey John, I noticed on another blog the Bennett had a tranquilizer pistol pointed and Matrix. Do you have a screen capture on this. I would pull it but I don't have the movie. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey John, Thanks for getting that screen cap later it was just miss identified as a Crossman Air Pistol. I figured that I would fix that little error. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Last Boy Scout Page ==

I have some screencps of various weapons that you haven't published in the page. Can I add them or you're still working on the project? I do not want to ruin your work. If you want I can show them before posting. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:I asked you only because I thought you had finished to post all the images. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Deadliest Warrior ==

Can you ID the Colt Revolver on my [[Deadliest Warrior]] page? Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Deleted article ==

Why did you delete the article for Perfect Dark? Was there something wrong with it I should know about? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Taps ==

Was limited in my resources when I first created the page. Thanks for not wiping out my contributions all together (which has happened before)and excellent work on the caps [[ User:Charon68|Charon68]]

==sorry==
I am sorry if you had issues with my categorizing the firearms lists of various pages. I only did so becaues I found it to be more organized on longer articles than the simple listing method used on shorter pages. I agree with you that since I did not write the original article I have no right to completely alter its format. I am sorry I did so and will cease making these changes in the future.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I just recieved your message thanking me for my cooperation. I had no idea that the one undoing all of my changes was the articles original author (I probably should have checked though) and had I been aware would have desisted immediatly. A simple message would have been enough to make me aware of my mistake, therefore the ultimatum included in your first message was both unnecessary and unappreciated. In the future if you could alert me to my mistakes without the use of threats I would be appreciative. I apologize if a sound angry at all (I'm not, nor do bear you any grudge) I was just slightly offended by the manner in which you told me stop changing page format.
:-Anonymous

== Help for new idiot... ==

Gunmaster45,

I saw your edits to a page (Thief) I created. I am very new, so forgive my indiscretions and errors in protocol. I was wondering if it would be possible to explain how to generate the table of contents present on each page. This is the boxed heading at the top of each page showing each gun and when clicked, takes you directly to each section (gun). I wasn't sure if posting this question here is proper, but I haven't found the help area that explains this action.

Thanks for your help in editing, and I have to say your work is excellent and I will strive to emulate your talent here on this site. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help, Gunmaster45! I appreciate your fast response. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Your suggestions for screencap editing are welcome. I will strive to adhere to the protocols in the future. I was using a poor, non-widescreen version for the screencaps. I have the WS DVD on order and will try to capture next week. If you decide to screencap similar scenes in the meantime, have at it! Thanks for the help. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 06:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Picture Assistance==
I have been contributing to this website for a long time and have written several articles and provided additions to many others. However, while I identify gun use in my pages and include pictures of the firearms (taken from other articles on this site) I have never been able to figure out how to upload pictures to this site from outside sources. Any instruction you can provide on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. My computer skills are mediocre to say the least, therefore I would be greatful if you could make the instructions as simple as possible.
:-Anonymous

==Thank You==
I followed your instructions on how to post images from outside sources and found them both easy to comprehend and effective. Thank you for showing me how to do this so that I can greatly improve my articles.
:-Anonymous

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix Screencap==
I noted on the Matrix discussion page that I was conducting a test and had realized that the existing screencaps are distorted, but the image is exactly the same as yours (the exact frame actually). Nothing on the page has changed, other than the fact that it was not uploaded by you. When people change pages, they're actually CHANGING the page, i.e. making the content different. I will only replace screenshots if they're distorted or crap. Yours were not crap, but I noticed that they seemed stretched upwards and I conducted a test to verify that. MPM2008

== Crossfire Trail ==
That would be great. It's a good western made in the older Hollywood style. It was directed by Simon Wincer who also directed [[Lonesome Dove]] I just bought a brand new Dell computer which will allow me to do screencaps, but right now I'm busy with household stuff and it's still sitting in it's box along with the 20" Hi-def screen --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a little research through my ''American Rifleman'' back-issues. Found some useful info about the guns used by [[Tom Selleck]] in his many westerns in the May 2002 issue.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Quigley Down Under ==

All it says is that there were three Shilo Sharps No. 3 rifles in 45-110 manufactured for him to use in the movie. It's my understanding that one of the rifles was donated to the NRA museum by Selleck.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what I figured. Oh by the way I picked up a Luger a few weeks ago. Manufactured in 1916 at the Erfurt goverment arsenal. Shoots like a champ.Here is a so-so picture I took.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There it is. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Luger One.JPG|thumb|350px|none]]

== Cool Guns ==

I've long considered the Luger P08, Mauser C96 Broomhandle, and the Webley Mk VI revolver to be "cool" handguns. Oh sure there are better handguns out there and certainly more modern handguns, but that itn't the point. Since I was your age (really) I have wanted an example of those three handguns. I now own a Webley Mk VI and a Luger. Perhaps one of these days I'll get a Broomhandle. We'll see. Your dad has a nice Luger there by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your dad has the C96 carbine? Partner you absolutely have to get a photo of that sucker posted. Lucky S.O.B. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==I see you replaced my pic==
And it wouldn't be so bad if your pic was better, but it's not. The contrast ratio is still 'muddy' and color saturation is still weaker. I thought you were more mature than this. I guess I was wrong. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==my apologies==
Like usual, you have a good (and mature beyond your years) explanation for your actions. I apologize. I must keep remembering that you are not like 99% of the guys .. ON the internet ... most of whom are petty. I see so much pettiness on the net that I sometimes forget that this is not the case everyone. THANKS for the explanation. And again, I apologize :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Matrix Reloaded==

I see you're re-vamping the page. Well and done, and good work so far. But I beg of you...please try and limit yourself to 5 screencaps per gun? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:What I would recommend if you have shots that look cool but you've reached the limit is to post them on the discussion page for other people to look at. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Call of duty ==

Hey i found some pics that i could use to TOTALLY revamp COD2, COD4, COD5, and soon MW2. If you could Ok it that would be great. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey i hope you saw COD2 took me all night. P.S. i'm done with COD4 it's awesome, and tommorow i'll work on COD4 (DS), and COD5. P.S.S. great job on The Matrix Revolutions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Screencap assisstance==
I am a little confused on what it is necessary to obtain sceencaps. I am under the impression that specific software is required inorder to play movies in a manner so that screencaps be taken. If that is the case where can this software be obtained.
:-Anonymous

==Payback edit mistake==
I recently viewed the changes you made to the ''[[Payback]]'' article. While I agree completely with your eliminating the Smith & Wesson model 29 and 28 sections and replacing them with one section on the model 27, I noticed that you got rid of the section on the Beretta 92 Porter uses akimbo with his 27. This weapon was definitely present in the film therefore I am confused as to why you omitted it. I have not changed this myself for fear I might accidentally undo some addition or correction.
:-Anonymous

==Commentary==
I always love your commentary, GM. -protoAuthor

==Payback response==
I contacted you immediately after noticing the omission. I checked the article shortly after finishing my message and noticed the change but did not have time to negate my comment before you responded.
:-Anonymous

==Payback again==
I noticed that you eliminated the section on the Smith & Wesson model 38. I am not necessarily disputing your actions I just don't entirely understand it because it looked like the gun was used based on the screencaps that were included.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
Sorry
:-Anonymous

==New Template==
Concerning the new template used to categorize information on recent actor articles, I was wondering whether existing articles would be retroactively changed to fit the new format or if it will be required on future pages.
:-Anonymous

== Payback Page ==

I know that the pages I do are horrible and very bad and I have no objection if someone restores this works, I'm even glad of it, but it was nice to be informed before the repubblication that 8 hours of my work are destroyed. Good job anyway. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:If you've forgotten to advice me it means that there is no problem. I misunderstood your action. It's all ok. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Gran Torino ==

Hey GM45, Great work on Payback, it looks awesome. I also would like to know when you plan on screencapping [[Gran Torino]]? Because it's a good movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it's page completed. I'm not trying to rush you or anything, I'm just curious.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday ==
Your birthday is on the 27th? Mine is on the 30th! It is quite funny how they are so close together.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
I am sorry I made such amateur mistake, considering how similar the two guns are in most aspects I did not think that such a crucial difference existed. You were certainly in the right to remove my comment and I greatly appreciate your explaining the reason to me. On another subject, I was curious if you could get back to me on the Template question I posted 4 sections above.
:-Anonymous

==Template Comment==
Actually, I rather don't care for the new template. I looked at the text in the editing and saw that it is extremely complicated to create. In addition, while the new system presents more information in a more organized fashion, I find it less aesthetically pleasing that the older, simpler format. While I have no problem with the new template being used, I contacted you because I was hoping that contributors who prefer could still create articles using the older format.
:-Anonymous

==Template==
I understand that people will use the new template and have no problem with that. However, I am worried that it will be retroactivly applied to existing articles whether or not article's contributors approve.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Per the anonymous user's comment, (since I can't reply to him) The template only applies to ACTOR pages and Gun pages. No one user has ownership of an Actor page or gun page. Users have 'some' rights over MOVIE/TELEVISION/ANIME/VG pages that they have worked hard on, but that's only a courtesy. If something is horrendously wrong, like a new user creates a hideous page, they have no right to keep a stupid page (like the guy who put 'The Ring'' as a page, WTF?). MPM2008

== Another opinion on new template ==
I don't like it. And personally I don't think I'm going to use it on pages I start. Guess that's me just being an old asshole. sorry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're right. Just being muleheaded.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy early Birthday ==

Thanks GM, I was just wondering, Happy birthday in advance by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

==Payback yet again==
I noticed you removed all of my responses on the ''[[Payback]]'' page to your comments about mistakes the characters or filmmakers made. I realize that my comments made the text about the images rather lengthy and I apologize if they made you feel that I was being overly critical of you, but the reason I wrote them was because ''Payback'' is one of my favorite films and I felt the need to defend it when any justification could be made for its errors. I do not intend to replace my comments, however, deleting them while entirely disregarding the arguments they presented (my Walther-Bersa feature mistake excepted) seems a little discourteous. Once again I am sorry for giving you so much grief over this page the last couple of weeks, but as I stated this is one of my favorite films and I just wanted to see it done justice.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I realize you enjoy pointing out the gun-related errors films make (I really do as well to be honest) and I have no issue with that whatever. In fact, the majority of your criticisms I left alone because I found them to be fully justified. The only comments I made were pertaining to mistakes I thought could justified such as missing at a close distance because the target is concealed or useing a poor grip because the size and location of a target make a hit guaranteed. I know some of the excuses have shaky foundations, but sense I enjoy the film so much I have been grasping at straws to vindicate it. I don't mind your removing them so much as I hope you at least considered what they said first. I will try to stop beating a dead horse and refrain from further commenting on this film, however I am not entirely sure I can restrain myself. ;)
:-Anonymous

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, I did notice you were using the template on the Actors pages it looks good with the info all cleaned up. I will note down about the boxed template and see what everyone else says. That's a good idea of your to clean up the Test page so everyone can use it for cut and paste. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

That does look good with the boxes on the [[Daniel Roebuck]] page. We'll have to see what the others say on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey John, My newest entry I have posted at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]] you might like it also.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Weeds Desert Eagle ==

Are you sure that it is a .44 Magnum. I own one and it is what I originally had listed but reading up I found that it was a .357. I will double check.

== RE:Frackyou ==
I saw on the Mail Call discussion page and was wondering what was the Taunting User Name? Oh and P.S. I hate little F***ers who do that to. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight actors ==
WTF? Why do we have Actor pages for them didn't use any guns? Who even pu them up their? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Deleted Article Question==
As an administrator I was hoping you could answer a question I had regarding some deleted articles. I noticed recently that the Television pages for ''American Dad'', ''Family Guy'', and ''The Simpsons'' had all been deleted. This seemed logical as animated programs such as these may not provide detailed enough images of firearms to definitively say what weapons the images were supposed to represent making these pages rather out of place on this website. However I noticed that the article for ''[[King of the Hill]]'' still exists which has better animation quality, yet still seems to have some of the issues as other animated pages. In addition, there are many other articles mostly on older video games and some animated works that have these problems. Why is it some questionable articles are deleted while others remain? I am not complaining about the decisions made, I am just curious about the process that leads to an articles deletion.
:-Anonymous

== True Lies ==

Thanks, and sure. I don't know why the widescreen for that movie is like that, same thing happens to [[Armageddon]], and [[Broken Arrow]]. If you can get better screenshots, then sure, go for it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Fantastic new caps from ''[[Public Enemies]]''! I'm definitely going for the first day it comes out, I'm a huge Mann fan as well (since you said it, I figure it won't sound as bad if I did haha) and I did a report on Dillinger in 7th grade and I've been fascinated with all that since then. I sure hope my teachers weren't worried about me after that :-/ Anyway, especially good call identifying the .38 Super M1911A1 machine pistol that Dillinger used. I'm really glad Mann used that, as neither of the other Dillinger films I've seen had it! If only there was a way we could share duties capping that when it's out on DVD. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 04:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Haha, thanks I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll get a ton of good shots but you always add so much to the pages that as I'm putting them on, you'll have valuable input to help. I'll be watching both the 1945 and 1973 Dillinger movies the night before, I guess to try and make it my own kind of marathon? Had you seen either, I definitely recommend the '73 version especially with Warren Oates and the great John Milius directing it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::One book that does a great job is the ''Public Enemies'' book written by Bryan Burroughs, it covers Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, and the Barker-Karpis Gang. Really a very interesting book with a ton of stuff if you're looking to check some of the accuracy of the movie. I read the script actually (a few months ago so it'd still be pretty fresh) and I think they took a few liberties with ''who'' was involved with the gang and when they were captured/died/etc., but with things like that it might progress the story in their favor to have it play out a different way. I'm just glad that PE will be featuring a wide variety of guns as well. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Also, happy birthday! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vacancy ==

Thanks for all corrections to the page. I use to put the Screencaps in that way because first I showing good the main actor with the weapon and then the others. But I have no problem to applied the caps in a different way.

== CODWAW ==
Finally done! Tell me what you think. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Ad Question==
I noticed the wide variety of new advertisers on this site. I am slightly confused over some of the new sponsers. While many of the ads are not surprising, I have seen ads promoting cosmetics and high-heeled shoes. Are these people unaware of the demographic this site caters to or are the ads simply generated randomly.
:-Anonymous

== RE: New profile picture ==
Quite the badass GM! Don't let anybody tell you akimbo isn't cool. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, if Hugo Weaving is coming at you, it's a good idea to throw out as much lead as you can, eh?
::I'm just yankin' your chain man! ;) --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Anytime you get a bunch of young guys in a group, their IQ goes way down. I've found myself doing dumb things(thankfully not with firearms) while in groups. Good luck with that! --[[Special:Contributions/75.175.64.56|75.175.64.56]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday ==

Hey GM45, just wanted to say Happy Birthday, I hope you're enjoying it and got everything you wanted. Thanks for your work on AvP by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on [[Gran Torino]], it is a good movie. Awesome work on [[Freddy vs. Jason]] too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
For your help on the Goldeneye/BDA/BDM thing.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's already been done-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I saw that, I edited the BDA pictures back to 600, but they got changed. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::oh yeah, i have a good sized moniter, but those jsut they appear too large.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Don't touch the SEALS page==
I have the screencaps that were left over from the first pass. I just haven't put them on yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Tightrope==
Hey John, I am checking to see if you have the Eastwood movie Tightrope. Let me know as I my need a screencap off of it. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 04:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I will PM you over on the forum for the answer. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: What did you think? ==

First off, I loved it. I feel like Mann really put a lot into this one (as well as the cast/crew, etc., giving credit where it's due of course) but I was incredibly impressed. I feel like they had done extensive research and used that to make the story so good. Like you said, the creative license with Nelson/Floyd/killings during Michigan City jailbreak/etc. may have been wrong but I feel like it did help to move the story forward for viewers not quite as knowledgable to the rest story as people like us ;)

Mann also proved that just because a movie takes place in the 1930s doesn't mean you only need to have 1911s and Thompsons. I noticed a bunch of the guns you had, such as the 1903A3s. I didn't get as good a look at the Winchesters, like the one used to wound Dillinger (I think the guy who wounded him in real life was John Shipley but I don't quite recall. I think the Sioux City bank robbery in the film was a mix of Dillinger's three 1934 bank robberies after his escape). I noticed a lot of revolvers, like the Colts you mentioned. I think I saw some with Smith & Wesson grips at one point but I can't remember when it was. I'm sure I'll go again to see it at some point this weekend so I'll be more eagle-eyed. Although I had especially noticed the shot of the Thompson during the Racine robbery and thought "that'd be GREAT for imfdb!" as well as a bunch of other shots. Amazing what this website does for the movie-watching experience haha

I was trying to do some shot-counting but it became difficult for me to sometimes discern who was shooting. But I agree; Bale looked steel-eyed when he was firing his 1911 at Nelson (also I noticed he kicked what looked like a nickel 1911 out of Pretty Boy Floyd's hand; I heard/read that the only nickel 1911s around during that era were the ones chambered in .38 Super. Do you know if this is true?)

Anyway I hope you enjoyed it, I know I certainly did. My friends were a bit confused by who the characters were exactly (which I could understand, Mann went right into the story!) but I was blown away! Another good (but long!) book to pick up if you have the time is a book called DILLINGER by William J. Helmer I believe. It goes very indepth into the story. The last couple summers my friends and I have been working on making our own ''Pretty Boy Floyd'' film but now it's gonna be pretty tough to avoid copying almost directly from PE! Hope I didn't ramble too much here - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

:Now that would be impressive! What all would you need to convert one to resemble, if not operate, like the one Dillinger had? Also I was just remembering the early scene in which Dillinger disassembled the Thompson - do you happen to recall if they showed Depp doing it himself or if they cut to just a set of hands? I'm just curious as to whether or not he had done it himself; Mann seems to make sure his actors are well trained with firearms (notably Cruise in ''[[Collateral]]'' of course). Also, I just found this interesting message board thread while browsing imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/board/flat/141781630. Covers a bunch of the accuracy things we were talking about. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Public Enemies==
Hey John, Lets see if I can fill in some of the gaps on this. I restore the weapons for Gibbons Ltd used by John Depp and weapons were also supplied by ISS.
* Johnny Depp's Colt 1911A1's were chambered for .45 ACP blanks they represented the real Dillinger's Colt 38 Supers. As of this time there are no 38 Super weapons or blanks in the industry.
* 1928A1 Thompsons the way we have them listed in everything is an error that I have yet figured out how to resolve. The weapons on the show are whats called a 1928 which is the same externally as a 1921 the difference is internal with a heavier actuator to reduce the cyclic rate of the weapon. The horizontal forends were offered on both 1921 and 1921 models of the Thompson. The 1928A1 is a World War II Thompson that had several shortcut in it to increase production during the war and were built by Savage and Auto Ordnance. The first short cut was no more commercial finish on the weapon then the fins were left of the barrel, The rear sight was changed to stamped L shape and not Cutt's comp was the final mod before production switch to the M1. Also if you notice when I have done pages with a Thompson in it the title is Colt 1921A or 1921 AC. The A is for a Thompson without a Cutt's compensator on it and AC is with a Cutt's. For the show there were Colt 1921's (Same weapon from Indy IV) with 1928 internals, 1928A1's refinished to look like a 1921 (Polished Blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built by for the show.
*1903 Colt Pocket Hammer was sent to the production it is unknown if it was used or it was used and the scene was cut.
*Revolvers I know that both the Colt Detectives and Colt Official Police were shipped on the show. I will see if I can help out on the on Saturday when I see the film.
*38 Super Machine Pistol used in the movie was chambered in 9mm blank as 38 Super is not carried by the industry. The weapons was built by ISS for the film.
*BAR these were supplied by Gibbons Ltd and were modified in the Bonny & Clyde configuration by another gunsmith for Gibbons Ltd.

:Hope the answered some of your question by as all things it probably created more. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::John,

::I'm pretty sure that the 1903 Colt Pocket was the gun that Dillinger used for about the last third of the film, in place of the 1911 he had carried earlier. It's the gun he takes with him to the theater and then tries to draw before he gets killed by Purvis and the other agents. I have no idea how accurate this is in real life.

::If some of the guns (including the machine pistol) were supplied by ISS, I might be able to ask my contact at ISS if he can tell me more about that gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Depp had the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer in the Tucson hotel scene. It was brief as Depp sets it down on the table and you can see the tab for the mag catch. But would need to see it on DVD to be sure. Did see a whole was full of Colt Official Police in the Crown Point jail vault. Also the machine gun out side of Crown Point was a Colt Model 1928 Light Machine Gun. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Oops, sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. But I will e-mail ISS and ask. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hard to kill==

::John,

::I got a question to ask. Do you have ''[[Hard to kill]]'' on DVD? If you do, say so. -[[User:speedfilmltd]]

== FC2 SVD ==

By the looks of things it's a bit of both; the forend has twin holes halfway up like the FPK, but it's shaped like the SVD's and the exposed part of the gas piston is smaller like the SVD's, too; other SVD features are things like the cheek pad, the kink in the fire mode switch as opposed to the AK-like switch on the FPK, and so on. Though the weirdest feature the FC2 SVD has is a duckbill three-point flash suppressor like it's an early M16. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

*Actually, I don't think humour in articles is really a bad thing even for a wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Humor this] is a good summary of why. Indeed, I think the Payback article is how all our articles should be; describing how the weapons are shown as well as which ones they are is far more informative and fits in with this Wiki's overall principle of educating readers about firearms in movies. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== sound effects ==

Hey I was just wondering if you knew of a good website from which I could download some good firing sound effects for a movie I'm doing/editing. Preferably there would be sounds for a Thompson (with the higher ROF on the earlier models) and a .44-40 Winchester, as well as pistols. I had considered trying to get some sounds from Youtube but they didn't sound crisp enough when I added them to the film. No big deal, but I was just curious if you knew of anything. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's actually a very good idea to borrow from movies like that, I wish I had thought of it! I might be able to get some crisp Thompson sound shots from ''Dillinger'' or ''Miller's Crossing''. (I'd use ''Public Enemies'' but unfortunately that's not out on DVD yet.) I've been trying to find some sort of BAR to use in mine but I'm afraid I might have to give up on that :-/ Good luck on yours as well - what's it about, if I may ask? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 08:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Shadow==
Hey John, Thanks for the nice words. The Shadow was my first film working in the Industry so it has a special place in my heart. Those custom built Grizzlies were the loudest pistol I have ever tested. I am going to call the owner of them next week and see if I can get a photo of them for IMFDB. I am uploading a special photo tomorrow I know you will like. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 07:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:The Grizzlies in 45 Win Mag were loud with hearing protection on. The Thompsons used on the set started out as Colt 1921's when Tim Curry was firing them but when we switched to the bridge scene the flash did not appear on camera. The cyclic rate on a 1921 was to just fast enough to not show completely on film so we went to the Colt 1928 Thompson we had on hand and the Colt 1921 became a backup. Also on the bridge scene the actor that fired the Thompson tossed away a Smith & Wesson M&P Snub Nose. On the pistols for the head on shot I would have to check and see if I have the paperwork for those. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Forrest Gump ==
Do it. You're much better than me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Mask 1911 ==
This is true, the only real difference is those cocking serrations. To me it has more features common to the CGNM. Most noticeably is the sight rib, with is a part of the slide. I have yet to see this on any other colt variant with the exception of the AMT Hardballer. It is possible that it's a custom series 70, but it's also a possibility that it's an older custom GCNM.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Well I do not know for sure. I have yet to find information on the older (pre series -70). In the mean time, I think the best thing to do, would be to call it a Custom Match Grade Series '70 Colt, because everything on there lends credence to it being a Match grade firearm. I will look for older models though. What do you think? btw, is it just me or does the second picture look like a commander sized gun? The distance from muzzle to the tip of the frame seems too short for a standard. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:Hey John, I agree with that it is not a Gold Cup National Match. Those sights look like a Millet copy of the Novak. The markings on the slide appears to be a Mark IV Series 70 Government Model. So I believe it's a Colt Mark IV Series 70 Government Model with Millet sights. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:::Yeah after some reasearch this is not the NM as I had thought. That D*** sight rib threw me off, never seen another Colt with that, and the markings are a Series 70 (or later) and no series 70 NM had straight serrations. I somewhat think this was a Colt custom shop gun. Sorry, you were right man. But if you change it back please make note it has been customized to hell. Lol, for what was probably paid for the custom job, that gun;s owner probably could have just bought a NM-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:::: Oh that's nice, but don't tell me that, to me a Gold Cup is the epitome of a Colt, and I hate seeing their part's scattered. Granted mine has different grips and grip safety but I didn't do that to it. And Thanks.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== SIG P220 page==

Hey, thanks for working on the SIG P220 series page. One thing, though...the way the format works is that we arrange the movies by date, from most recent to least recent. Also, ditch the parentheses around the year. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Layout Format==
Hey John, Go ahead and try it out to see what everyone thinks. It can be changed back by changing a number. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Talk page archives==
Hey man, I just thought I'd drop you and line and suggest that you seperate the older messages on your talk page into one or more archives. This is the way I do it:
* Create a '''sub-page''' to use as an archive. For example, at [[User_talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1]], and move the text you want to archive there.
* Add the following code to the top of your main talk page, to link to the archive or archives: <nowiki> <div align=right style="float:right;font-size:100%;">'''Archived talk:''' [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1|1]], [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive2|2]] etc.</div> </nowiki>
* Adding a note at the top of the archive pointing out that it's not to be used for discussion, as well as a link back to the main talk page, is good idea as well.
Should make this a lot easier to read. :)--[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 18:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

::The size difference would be negligible, since most of it is only text, but; that's up to you.

::Also, I don't know what the established thing is here, but on every other wiki I've been to it's customary to reply to a message on your own talk page (where the conversation was started), doing it that way it makes it a lot easier to follow the conversation, because it's not spread across pages. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 07:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
*On every Wiki I've been on it's the opposite, because it means the other person recieves the 'you have new messages' notification. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

==Glocks==

I asked about this on another forum a few months back. The answer is...there's no consensus. Some of the Glock fans I talked to told me that the Glock "Generations" refer to the styling only (meaning, any Glock that has rails and finger grooves is a 3rd Gen, while no rails and checked backstraps is 2nd Gen, etc.), while others told me that it does indeed refer to specific models (meaning, a Glock 17 with rails is a 3rd Gen, but a Glock 22 with the same style frame is only 2nd Gen). From what I gather, Glock themselves haven't really taken a specific position on the matter. Also, I have Gun Digest issues from 1999-2000 (when the rail frame/finger grooves models were introduced), and the advertisements for Glocks in them don't make any references to "3rd Generation" or "2nd Generation". So, from what I can tell, the "Generation" nomenclature was invented by fans, not by the company.

Long story short...I stopped caring how people described them, which is why I haven't reverted changes by other users, but I guess the first way of doing it (associating Generations with the styling only) is much easier and makes enough sense. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
==Crimson Rivers==
Thanks for redirecting the page for me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
==Total agreement==
Yeah, I hate pocket pistols too. Due to the fact that I have what amount to bear paws, a full size M1911 would actually suit me better as a pocket gun. Also, the absence of an M4 and FAL in Rainbow Six:Vegas/ Vegas 2 pissed me off-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Modern Warfare 2 ==
I just heard that Modern Warfare 2 has been changed to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 by activision. so could you change the name back, because I can't. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 18:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Glad you like them! And yes, I'm excited to see the other guns, too. There were some pretty rare pieces used in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thinking of adding a brief forward to the Far Cry 2 article ==

As you might have noticed, it's almost finished and I'll have any remaining images tonight. I was thinking of adding a brief introduction it, just explaining firstly the game, then a subheading explaining how the inventory system works and the player actually ''gets'' weapons in the game, since our pages on movies tend to include a shot of how a character first acquires a weapon if there is one [say, Arnie talking to the gun store owner in ''Terminator'']. Seem ok? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Saw ==
I know this'll sound stupid but I'm really squemish and was wondering if any of the saw movies have screen caps. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 20:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== My crack at an incomplete template: ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Template:Incomplete

How's it look? Also, could I request you protect Far Cry 2 now? It's done barring me figuring out any way to jam the flare gun, which seems unlikely since it doesn't even have an idle animation. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Sure! I can ask. Only thing is, does your Dad intend to register the pistol under the NFA? Because I'm pretty sure a pistol with a vertical grip is a Class III AOW. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Found a capture program ==
Power DVD. It's pretty cool. Although the screens look a little dark at times. -protoAuthor

==RE: Face/Off==
Love the page - it turned out great. Caught a lot of guns that I missed when I cleaned it up some a while back (I tend to focus on the "big" guns). You had me for a minute with Eve and Jamie, though...for a second, I thought that your eyes were going bad. :P In somewhat unrelated news, do you plan on redoing the Miami Vice page? I know that's not your favorite movie, but that page is almost begging for some great screencaps...especially the SIG 552. I'd do it, but my software ain't up to snuff. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 01:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

==Pirates==
Feel free to turn it into a decent page. I'm just sick of all these pages made without an ounce of effort in them. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==Armsel Striker page==
John,Someone really messed up the Armsel Stiker page and I'm going to try and fix it. Please protect the page as I don't want to have to fix things again. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Smith & Wesson hammers==
I don't know whether or not you have the answer to this question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I was doing some reading recently and learned Colt's Positive Lock safety, separating the hammer from the firing pin to prevent accidental discharge, was developed fairly early in the twentieth century and applied to Colt revolvers, however, many Smith & Wesson revolvers continued to use the simple spiked hammer design for decades. I was currious if you knew when, if ever, S&W adopted a safer mechanism for their revolvers and if you had any details about the design.
:-Anonymous

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the pin on the hammer of Porter's model 27.]]

==The grip on the Colt 38 Super==

Hey, my contact got back to me on the Colt 38 Super machine pistol from ''[[Public Enemies]]''. I asked him how the rail for the grip was attached to the frame, and he said this:

''"[T]he rail was semi permanently added with some small screws. The screws can be removed from the rail but where they anchored into the frame---those marks will still be there."''

Hope that answers the question. Also, check these out (make sure you click on them all the way, to see how big they are):

[[Image:PBreak-00055.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00056.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00061.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I'm finally going to re-vamp ''[[Point Break]]'', either tonight or tomorrow. It'll be the first movie I've ever done using Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Mislabled team in Transformers ==

I just wanted to let you know you mislabled Cpt. Lennox(Josh Duhamel)'s team As "Ranger". They are not a "Ranger" team they are a Combat Applications Group or as most people know them, A Delta Force unit. I just wanted to let you know, thanks.

==Re:==

Hey, GM, that does indeed look better, and I would love to be able to do the same with the rest of my screencaps. What software do you use? Photoshop?

Unfortunately, one thing I'm starting to realize is that even if I do use Blu-Ray, I won't be able to take screencaps that look quite as good as the disc player is capable of generating. On my HDTV, ''[[Point Break]]'' on Blu-Ray looks very good, but on my laptop, it doesn't come out nearly as well. You may have noticed, for instance, that the resolution of these is only 1166x528 pixels even though the resolution on the disc is 1280x720. This is either due to the limits of VLC Media Player, or my laptop's graphics hardware, or maybe both. And it also may explain why the images aren't quite as sharp as they could be. So if I can edit them manually, I will gladly do so to get the most out of having Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, John, thanks for the offer. I will check out Paint Shop Pro when I have time. Right now, though, I actually haven't had much time to work on ''[[Point Break]]'', either last night or today. I'm probably not going to be doing any more work on this site because I'm celebrating my birthday tonight (which was yesterday), and I have to start working on a term paper tomorrow. But I think I can probably figure it out. I'll make sure to contact you if I have trouble achieving the same effect.

:Also, I tried playing ''[[Push]]'' in Blu Ray on my laptop, and much to my disappointment, it looks WAY worse when I use the screencap function on VLC Media Player (the screencaps come out semi-pixalated). I'm beginning to think it really is an issue with the player and that I'm going to need to find a better screencapping software. VLC just doesn't seem to handle Blu Ray very well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

== Deletion request ==

Can you deleted [[Talk:"BFG"]]? I can't move the talk page there while it still exists, even if it's blank. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== Blackout's minigun ==

I can't see the weapon you're referring to in the two screencaps, are you looking at his refueling probe? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's probably talking about the two gun positions on the sides that a Blackhawk tends to have. Also, out of curiousity; I wrote that extra section on Brawl because he's basically a giant prop, which I think fits in with the general idea of this Wiki to say what's a real weapon and what isn't. Just wondering why it's moved to the talk page? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::Looking at it, it ''does'' look like a Vulcan; the barrels look like they're tapering inwards towards the muzzle in both those shots, though the barrel clamps are a little off. Brawl's would probably be whatever Blackout's is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:Incidentally, what do you think of the BFG page now? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::I've edited the note on the BFR to clear that up a little; "BFR" is obviously a reference to the true meaning of the "BFG" acronym, even though the guns themselves aren't anything like the ''Doom'' one. I tried right-aligned images, but they either aren't lined up, or if they are add a lot of big empty spaces to the article. Also changed the tables, I like yours better. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

==MG42==
Did the Germans use MG42s in X-Men origins Wolverine? You removed MG42 section and I'm not sure if it's the same bunker in other shots. And are bootleg pics allowed? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Neon Genesis Evangelion: Glock 17==

Thanks for pointing that out; I don't understand too well because it says that Glock 17 has "a safety" but then says it doesn't: please explain more clearly (not here, on my user talk page; I don't check in very frequently...or on the Evangelion page). My bad understanding after reading through this is that "the Glock 17 doesn't have an external safety switch, it's got an automatic safety on the trigger so it only fires if you pull the trigger properly; the English dub inserting a line where a character says "safety off" while looking at his glock makes no sense, because there IS no external safety-switch" - is that correct?--[[User:V|V]] 21:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

==Could you help me delete some unnecessary pictures?==
Some arse (aka my brother) got on my account while I was away from it temporarily to do something, and he managed to upload two "unnecessary" images before I got back and chastised him. Could you manage to get them off? If you look at my uploads, it should be obvious which ones shouldn't be there. Thanks! (Dang it forgot this!) -[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 20:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Don't worry John. Matthew took care of it. It was Two pictures oof some beautiful women that T-55's brother put up in his profile. The Women were only in their underwear. Nothing pornographic.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
==Another quote you might enjoy==
:I was talking to my friend last night and I had this to say:''' I held a Glock 22 yesterday (July 20th, 2009) and it felt EXACTLY like an airsoft gun'''. I thought it was funny enough to add to my profile-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
== Yard Work? ==
What the hell?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:Good. I though you were going to help build a house for 2 bucks a hour or something. Now i will leave you to work on Watchmen and sleep. Good night.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Ban==
A user suggested that we ban Lisle202 for a week to teach him a lesson. Is that good? Lisle202 posted bad comments on my talk page. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] ( - )
*Also Lisle202 posted this in [[Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]: "Was das? Das sieht nicht wie ein M1911A1!" I don't know what that language is and what he is saying. This means that Lisle202's grammer is poor as he can speak German and English is his first language. He probably learned from movies like the message posted on my talk. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
:::Kenny99 needs to watch more WW2 movies ;) I barely speak German but even I know that's ''"What's that? That does not look like a M1911A1!"'' ;) regards MPM2008 (''Dieses ist NICHT eine deutschsprachige Web site. Es ist eine englische Sprachenweb site. '') ;)

*Crysis helped me figure out he's peaking German before the second comment. [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
*I'm going to use Translate to tell him to leave as this is english,not German site. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*I'm sorry that this happened. Lisle202 probably doesn't understand what's a bootleg and posted it on X-Men. Then I have to stop him, and we all got into this mess. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Meine Antwort==

Ja, ich verstehe. Ich habe nie davon gehört einer Bootleg vor. - [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]] 21:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
==The Hangover==
I wasn't finished with the page yet. I'll have to redo it in the morning-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I was doing everything other than the pics and poster (I can't do that) when you deleted it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:M'kay. There was a Mossberg 500 and a Jericho 941-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hey do you think a Wilson Combat beavertail piece would fit in my High Standard? I'm tired if wearing gloves when I shoot-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==User: Dillinger ==
Do you know this person? He/she keeps going and removing an a photo of the S&W Model 19 that I posted as a compariosn with the S&W Model 67 on ''[[Escape from New York]]''. I did that so folks could see the difference between the two models. It was a source of controversy over what Snake Plisken was using. What really irritates me is that Dillinger doesn't have a page so I can't even send him a message.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG P220-series==

I wouldn't use the term "standard" to describe models of P220-series guns, unless it's to distinguish them from a special model (i.e two-tone, nickel, railed, etc.) Also, what do you mean about the P226 in "Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay" being a "prop"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
==Thanks for the advice==
:I bruised my hand up pretty bad the first time I shot the gun and one side of the grip safety is really sharp. It's probably because of the size of my hands. I would like to just thank you again for restoring The Hangover . My grandfather is sick with pneumonia and I was at the hospital with him all day and would not have had the time to redo the page.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:What if the gun has a parkerised finish?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:Then I will just have to buy a beavertail for fear of screwing up my grip safety-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Halo article ==

As I just added to the talk page there, the Halo article doesn't actually represent any effort at all on to poster's part; it's copy-pasted from a page on Halopedia. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*There's a few I could see arguments being made for [assault rifle as FN F2000 based, battle rifle the horrible, dishevelled spawn of an XM8 and a TAR-21] and if someone ever wrote a proper article with screenshots that explained some form of "this gun is based on this gun" reasoning, I'd argue we should keep it. That one, though, is worthless plagarism. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==permission==
Can I post X-Men Origins pics from sample clips released by IMDB? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 17:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*Ah nevermind. The clips at IMDB are from TV spots anyway and can be found online. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Vandal detected ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/201.83.221.229

Click the diff. I don't really think that was an improvement. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==
I think you are right on Spider man 3. Flint did indeed use a Smith & Wesson. I am not going to do a Spider Man 2 page as it only shows a Beretta 92FS and a Mossberg 500. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 01:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series==

I hadn't looked at this page in a while, and then I looked at it today and it was incredibly well done. Excellent, excellent job, GM. It looks so much more professional now. Bravo! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Megan Fox Page ==

If an actor or actress has not used any weapons in any films or television yet, DO NOT make a page for them. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
== The Professional ==
I must have bought the stripped down version of Leon, my copy does not have the Roulette Scenes, Ringtrick, Drugdealer, Mathilda's paintball pistol, none of that.
So feel free to screencap it. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:Special deluxe edition huh, that must explain why I only paid like $8.00 for mine. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::I was surprised no-one has done Apocalypse Now yet. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, go ahead. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 15:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== MSN ==
Do you have MSN John?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

==Running Scared, my page setup==
I think I got the story with S&W 36 done right . It goes through so much crap. Also thanks for setting up my page. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== Year of the Dragon ==

Wait on that until Apocalypse Now is pretty much all done up.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== You're right ==
I never heard of the RPD before COD4. -[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Se7en and spoilers ==

Hey GM, I just wanted to say I thought you had a great idea for concealing the spoilers on the page for [[Se7en]]. I always hoped there was a way to explain how the gun was used so that people who had seen the film would understand but people who hadn't wouldn't have it ruined for them. Also great work with the page, as always, it's coming along very well and definitely needed your skills! Do you think we should start maybe going through some other films (when we have time) with major spoilers in the descriptions and changing them to fit the format for the descriptions on Se7en? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 01:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for the help ==

Just wanted to say thanks for helping with the [[RPD]]. I'd rather ask someone than put in "haven't a clue" when uploading stuff and hoping someone else will figure it out. Originally I frequented this site and eventually joined mainly for the Sci-Fi stuff, so I'm not always to good with older stuff. I checked through all the rifles but didn't think to check machine guns for this. -[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]]

==Constantine==
I was wondering if you thought that Rachel Weisz's gun is a 6906. It might be something different, but I don't have any of the models that it may be (some others have been suggested), so I am not an expert on what it may be. It looks a little BIG for a 6906. Just wondering if you wanted to give it a shot. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Another vandal ==

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/97.102.92.187 97.102.92.187] decided it would be a really great idea to [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User%3AS%26Wshooter&diff=157413&oldid=156790 vandalise S&W Shooter's user page] and make nonsense edits to a couple of other articles. Wants a good hard nuking. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 14:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thing Thing==
While I was surfing for more pages to edit, I found this page while surfing. This is actually a flash game and it doesn't belong here. Can you delete it? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Glow, not blow. ;)==

Oops! Kinda funny though.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, it looks great! Only one suggestion: Maybe one more PE image (i.e. the one with Depp and the 1911s)? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== An idea I had. ==

Rather than putting trivia entries on talk pages, which makes them a little tricky to find, why not make a seperate page? The idea I had was something like naming the article after the main one with (trivia) on the end, putting it in "category: movie trivia", then adding a template at the top or bottom of the main article; say the "would you like to know more" button from ''Starship Troopers''. This would read something like:

(Would you like to know more? image) This article has a '''trivia page''' (and that would be a link to it, working like the duplicate template).

It would advertise your hard work more clearly too, rather than just hoping people stumble across it on the discussion page. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 03:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==Walther PPK revisited==
A while back you corrected a glaring mistake I made in claiming the [[Walther PPK]] had a slide release. Once again I would like to thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding but I recently began to wonder; if the the PPK does not have a release, does its slide even lock back when empty? I realize that these two features are not necessarily mutually inclusive, however many guns from the PPK's time period did not lock when empty, so I am unsure what to think. Any information you could provide would be helpful.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== What the hell happened to Perfect Dark? ==

I know that the guns in the game were kind of fictitious, but a TON of them were based off real guns, so can we put it back? [[User:PPK1911HiPower|PPK1911HiPower]] 20:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Overzealous Deletion ==
I would just like to say that in the last few days it appears that some have become extremely quick to label an article as incomplete or recomend it for deletion only a few hours after it was created. Many people lay a basic foundation for a page and come back later to expand it. Therefore, I believe there should be more restrictions on timelimits and level of content before anyone can come along and recomend that someone else's article be eliminated.

On an unrealated subject, if adding pictures to an existing article which contains only text, if someone mentions a 1911 was used without giving any more details as to the weapon's appearance can any 1911 image be added (so long as the model isn't too obscure) until a more precise identification can be made? This same dilemma occurs with M16, MP5, and Kalashnikov models which are not given detailed identification.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::Disagree entirely. There's no excuse whatsoever for dumping trash pages on the site, and the only thing that will discourage it is if it's speedily removed; even if 'many people' do this [and I'd dispute that], we should make it clear this is not how articles should be constructed; a page with no useful information, no effort put into formatting and no screenshots is pointless, and hoping a turd will turn into a diamond if you leave it alone will soon get you a backyard full of turds. ''Anyone'' can take the time and effort to write up an article to an acceptable standard in a word processor before posting it; anyone who does not is going to have their article removed. Your actions of trying to get these pages up to a standard where they are not instantly deleted are laudable, but misguided; you shouldn't be jumping to help out people who won't put the effort in themselves, you should be working on your own projects. We don't want people coming to the site with the mentality that they can put no effort at all into a page because someone else will fix it for them later, because that essentially makes us servants running around after lazy idiots. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 00:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Actor Pages==
Sorry about that. I wasn't familiar with the new table format and I always forget to add the categories. I've fixed most of them now, so check them out and let me now if they are sufficient. Thanks for your guidance. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rules ==
Hey John. It seems you are going to write some rules. Can i help you with that?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Last Boy Scout ==

Hi Gunmaster, please check the discussion page of Last Boy Scout ;)

PS: Waiting to fix my English, lately instead of doing full pages I'm adding information or photos in existing pages. I hope to do well. For example after a year I have found the true name of the custom revolver in Hard Rain, my first page. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

==Payback once again==
Somebody has once again changed the ''[[Payback]]'' article to say that Porter's main gun is a S&W Model 29 instead of a Model 27. Being as this exact same question has see-sawed back and forth several times I was hoping you could verify it. Also I asked you some questions a few days ago that I think got buried in the all the posts. I will restate them below:

:A while back you corrected a glaring mistake I made in claiming the Walther PPK had a slide release. Once again I would like to thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding but I recently began to wonder; if the the PPK does not have a release, does its slide even lock back when empty? I realize that these two features are not necessarily mutually inclusive, however many guns from the PPK's time period did not lock when empty, so I am unsure what to think. Any information you could provide would be helpful.

:If adding pictures to an existing article which contains only text, if someone mentions a 1911 was used without giving any more details as to the weapon's appearance can any 1911 image be added (so long as the model isn't too obscure) until a more precise identification can be made? This same dilemma occurs with M16, MP5, and Kalashnikov models which are not given detailed identification.

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Response==
Thank you for answering my questions although I just wanted to make it clear that I am not the one who changed the ''[[Payback]]'' article to state Porter's weapon was a Model 29. Based on your response I couldn't determine if you were frustrated with me or just in general. I don't think the revolver is a .44 Magnum either but couldn't positively refute the change which is why I asked for your help.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== Gator Gun ==

Hey, good job identifying the so-called "Gator Gun" from ''[[Miami Vice]]''. That was an extremely tough one to identify and I'm impressed that you figured it out. Great job! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 22:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Question concerning Appaloosa 1878 8 Gauge ==

John, I'm looking for information concerning the 1878 8 gauge used in Appaloosa.
Could you please contact me at wv50bmg@gmail.com
Thank you for your time - [[User:Mrwhite1|Matt]] 19:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Obscure Colt Snake Series ==

Hey, just wondering if you have some good pics of the complete colt snake series. If so, they would be greatly appreciated.

thank you,

- [[User:sgt kickass]]

== Can you believe this guy? ==

Yournamehere thinks he can come to my page and change the format I prefer because he doesn't like it. How is my format not orderly. It's pissing me off. I mean look at my [[Black Lagoon]] Page. How is it better now than before when I had sections for which guns is which. I mean our differences aside, I didn't go to your Mail Call page and changed it. It's YOUR page. I don't believe I have the right to mess with how you like it. I just made some suggestions and Yournamehere decides to change my page the way he wants it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Revamp Mail Call ==

I'll think about it. It is a rather daunting task to put everything in the category that I am familiar with. As long as you have no problem with it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:50, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

==Lock'n Load: Pistols==
I had some questions relating to the most recent episode of ''[[Lock 'n Load With R. Lee Ermey]]''. You identified the ".38 double action Colt revolver" as a [[Colt New Service]] 1898, yet according to Ermey the weapon was adopted in 1894 and looked slightly different from the New Service. However, Ermey did mix up a couple of minor facts througout the episode and the difference in appearance could be the result of lighting, angle, or my own error, I just wanted to ask if you were certain about your identification. I was also curious if you knew exactly what .38 round this weapon fired as there were many around at the turn of the century: .38 short Colt, Long Colt, S&W, and special are the ones I can think of off the top of my head and I have no idea which was most common during this period.

I also was confused by the Gunny's statement that the Beretta 92 series of pistols was introduced in 1975, as I thought I read somewhere that they were not introduced until the early 1980's.

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Lock'n Load Response==
In response to the revolver in question, I did a little digging and discovered that the weapon was the [[Colt Model 1892]] as this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_M1892] testifies that the weapon was adopted in the early 1890's as the Military's first double action revolver, which Ermey mentioned the revolver he used was. It turns out that you were correct about the weapon being chambered in .38 Long Colt. I will post an image below so that if you wish you can change the Lock'n Load article in your preffered format as I have had bad luck with television articles lately.

[[Image:Colt Model 1892 Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Model 1892 - .38 Long Colt]]

:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

Beretta 92 pistol series

2009-08-17T02:58:10Z

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'''The Beretta 92 and variants are used by the following actors in the following movies, TV series, anime, and video games:'''

''NOTE: In the past, the Beretta 92F and 92FS have often been misspelled on IMFDB as "M92F" (as this page was originally titled), "M92FS", or "92 FS" with a space in between the "92" and "FS". '''These are incorrect spellings'''; the correct versions are '''"Beretta 92F"''' or '''"Beretta 92FS"'''. Please do not use any of the mis-spelled versions on any future pages, and please correct older pages with this error.''

==Specifications==

'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 9x19mm (92 series), .40 S&W (96 series), 9x21mm IMI (98 series)

'''Capacity:''' 10,11 (96 series) 10,12 (90-two) 10,15,17,20 (92&98 series) 10,13 (Compact L) 8 rounds (Compact M)

'''Fire Modes:''' Semiautomatic

== Beretta 92F/FS ==
Also known as the M9 in U.S. military service (''however, there are few - if any- actual "M9s" seen in movies and TV shows; property masters and armorers always use the civilian 92FS, even when the pistols are seen in the hands of actors playing U.S. military personnel''). Four out of five branches of the military issue the Beretta M9; all five did until 2006 when the USCG adopted the [[SIG-Sauer P229]].

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92F - 9x19mm. This well worn movie gun is the '''original''' Beretta 92F that [[Bruce Willis]] used in ''[[Die Hard]]'' and was also used by [[Mel Gibson]] in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series. This is the hero screen used live firing gun in both films and has since been 'retired' to a glass museum case. Note the left handed magazine release, incorporated in order to accommodate Willis' "south paw" shooting.]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm. This well worn movie gun is the Beretta 92FS that [[Bruce Willis]] used in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'', ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', and had a guest appearance in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. This gun was also used by [[Sylvester Stallone]] in ''[[Demolition Man]]''. ]]
[[Image:Beretta_two_tone-1-.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Factory two tone Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:M9-pistolet.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta M9 9x19mm. U.S. military-issue 92FS. ''Note nomenclature on slide distinguishing this from a standard civilian Beretta 92FS''.]]

=== Film ===

* [[Will Smith]] as Lt. Col. Dr. Robert Neville in ''[[I Am Legend]]''

* [[Mykelti Williamson]] as Sgt. Drucker in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Liam Neeson]] as Bryan Mills in ''[[Taken]]''

* Undercover Officers in ''[[La Haine]]''

* [[Richard Grieco]] as Michael Corben(Promotional shots) and Pierre in ''[[Teen Agent]]''

* Assassins in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' (fitted with suppressors)

* [[Jason Bose Smith]] as Little Henry, a carjacker, and LAPD officers in ''[[American History X]]''

* U.S. Army Rangers in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* [[Sean Patrick Flanery]] as Connor MacManus, [[Norman Reedus]] as Murphy MacManus, and [[David Della Rocco]] as Rocco ("the Funny Man") in ''[[The Boondock Saints]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''

* [[Diego Sandoval]] as ''Empty Gun Man'' in ''[[Desperado]]'' (fitted with suppressor)

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Lt. John McClane in the ''[[Die Hard]]'' series

* An L.A.P.D. SWAT officer, [[Alan Rickman]] as Hans Gruber, and [[Alexander Godunov]] as Karl in ''[[Die Hard]]''

* [[Nicolas Cage]] as Castor Troy and [[Dominique Swain]] as Jamie Archer in ''[[Face/Off]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as Jack Carter in ''[[Get Carter (2001)|Get Carter]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Tequila Yuen and [[Tony Leung]] as Alan in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Mark Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Waise Lee]] as Shing, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, and Triad gang members in ''[[A Better Tomorrow]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ken Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, [[Dean Shek]] as Lung Si, [[Fui-On Shing]] as Ko's Right Hand Man, [[Ming Yan Lung]] as Chong, [[Shan Kwan]] as Ko Ying Pui, and others in ''[[A Better Tomorrow II]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ah Jong in ''[[The Killer]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as John Lee in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Detective Nick Chen in ''[[The Corruptor]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Josh Hartnett]] as Detective K.C. Calden in ''[[Hollywood Homicide]]''

* [[Kim Bodnia]] as Harald in ''[[In China They Eat Dogs]]''

* [[Adam Baldwin]] as Major Mitchell, U.S. military and Secret Service personnel in ''[[Independence Day]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Jarhead]]''

* [[Mel Gibson]] as Detective Martin Riggs in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series ''(fitted with a laser sight in [[Lethal Weapon 4]])''

* L.A.P.D. officers and [[Rene Russo]] as Sergeant Lorna Cole in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Leon in ''[[Leon (The Professional)]]''(Customized with Compensators and Silencers)

* [[Jared Leto]] as Vitaly Orlov in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as DEA Agent Sean Vetter and [[Larenz Tate]] as DEA Agent Demetrius Hicks in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* [[Keanu Reeves]] as Neo in ''[[The Matrix]]'' and in ''[[The Matrix Revolutions]]''

* FBI Agents and [[Jackie Chan]] as Chief Inspector Lee in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Dennis Quaid]] as Guy and [[Stellan Skarsgard]] as Peter Dominic in ''[[Savior]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[The Siege]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* L.A.P.D. patrol officers and one of Montel's cronies in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' ''(the latter being fitted with a silencer)''

* [[Robert Patrick]] as the T-1000 in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]] as the T-X in ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* [[Ethan Hawke]] as Officer Jake Hoyt in ''[[Training Day]]''

* [[Kate Beckinsale]] as Selene in ''[[Underworld]]'' (fitted with compensators and modified to fire full auto)

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Volcano]]''

* N.S.A. agent posing as a robber at the 'diner' in ''[[xXx]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[X-Men]]''

* [[Lou Diamond Phillips]] as Cisco in ''[[The Big Hit]]''

* U.S. Navy S.E.A.L.S., [[Sean Connery]] as John Patrick Mason, and [[Nicolas Cage]] as FBI Agent Stanley Goodspeed in ''[[The Rock]]'' (Connery and Cage using one fitted with a tactical flashlight)

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Lions for Lambs]]''

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Bob Lee Swagger in ''[[Shooter]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as John Spartan in ''[[Demolition Man]]''

* [[Jet Li]] as Gabriel Law in ''[[The One]]''.

* [[Steven Seagal]] as Nico Toscani in ''[[Above the Law]]''

* Police in ''[[Vantage Point]]''

* [[Steve Carell]] as Agent 86 in ''[[Get Smart]]''

* [[Scott Caan]] as Jones in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* Japanese soldiers in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* [[Martin Lawrence]] as Miles Logan in''[[Blue Streak]]''

* [[Elizabeth Banks]] as Starla Grant in ''[[Slither]]''

* Shinji Mimura in [[Battle Royale|Battle Royale(Film)]]

* [[Tom Cruise]] as Ethan Hunt in ''[[Mission: Impossible 3]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* Rookie Kincaid in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* [[Clive Owen]] as Louis Salinger in [[The International]]

* Minneapolis P.D. officers in ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''

* ''[[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]'' (2008)

* Omar in ''[[Traitor]]''

* Mace in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* An assassin in ''[[The Sentinel]]'', fitted with a suppressor.

* Detectives Curtis and Anderson in ''[[Unknown]]''

* Truck driver in ''[[Dreamcatcher]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Dragon Wars: D-War]]''

* [[Andy Whitfield]] as Gabriel in ''[[Gabriel]]'' (dual-wielded with silencers)

* The corrupt police officers hired by Dominic Greene in ''[[Quantum of Solace]]''

* Kansas City Police officers and detectives in ''[[Mad Money]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Chev Chelios in ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]''

* A member of the french national police in ''[[MR 73]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''

* [[Esai Morales]] as Staff Sergeant Stern in ''[[In the Army Now]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Sheriff Pangborn in ''[[Needful Things]]''

* [[Tengiz Borisoff]] as Josip Barada in ''[[Red Heat]]''

* [[Sue Price]] as Alex Sinclair in ''[[Nemesis 2: Nebula]], [[Nemesis III: Prey Harder]] and [[Nemesis 4: Death Angel]]''

* [[Barry Pepper]] as Mike Norton in ''[[Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The]]''

* [[Ben Kingley]] as Frank Falenczyk in ''[[You Kill Me]]

=== Television ===

* ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]''

* ''[[Survivors]]''

* ''[[Bugs]]'' (episode "A Sporting Chance")

* ''[[Stand, The]]''

* Numerous characters in ''[[CSI: Miami]]''

* U.S. military personnel in ''[[JAG]]''

* [[Donnie Wahlberg]] as Captain Horst Cali in ''[[The Kill Point]]''

* [[Currie Graham]] as Cpl. Shaver in ''[[Over There]]''

* U.S. military personnel in ''[[Stargate: SG1]]''

* [[Keifer Sutherland]] as Agent Jack Bauer in ''[[24]]''

* ''[[The Sopranos]]''

* Many characters in ''[[Jericho (TV series)|Jericho]]''

* ''[[NCIS]]''

* Militant extremists in ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' (episode "Future's End")

* Spenser (Robert Urich) in ''[[Spenser: For Hire]]''

* ''[[Seven Days]]''

* ''[[Silk Stalkings]]''

* Numerous characters in ''[[Lost]]''

* Many Villians and most police officers in ''[[Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]''

* Sarah Connor [[Lena Headey]], Derek Reese [[Brian Austin Green]], John Connor [[Thomas Dekker]], and Police Officers in ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Southland]]''

* ''[[Situation Critical]]''

* Many Characters In [[Criminal Minds]]

* [[Will Yun Lee]] as Jae Kim, [[Isaiah Washington]] as Antonio Pope, [[Jordan Bridges]] as Tom Hastings, [[Aleks Paunovic]] as BG Assault Team Leader Curtis and various Berkut Group Tactical officers in ''[[Bionic Woman]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]]'' as DEA Agent Jane Vasco in ''[[Painkiller Jane]]''

=== Anime ===

* ''[[Gunsmith Cats]]''

* Black Scissors enforcers and a hijacker in ''[[Mezzo DSA]]''

* John McClaine in ''[[Mezzo Forte]]''

* Knights of Paris (with silencers) in ''[[Noir]]''

* Rimelda Jorg and other Gazth-Sonika military personnel in ''[[Madlax]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[America's Army]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' (with and without silencer)
* ''[[Battlefield 2 Special Forces]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2 Euro Force]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2: Modern Combat]]'' (with and without silencer)
* ''[[Combat Arms]]''
* ''[[Delta Force: Task Force Dagger]]''
* ''[[Enter the Matrix]]''
* ''[[Jagged Alliance 2]]''
* ''[[Max Payne]]''
* ''[[Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes]]'' and ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]'' (including one modified as a tranq dart gun used by Snake)
* ''[[Operation 7]]''
* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas]]''
* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil Games]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil 3: Nemesis]]'' (as the "M92F S.T.A.R.S. Custom")
* ''[[Resident Evil 5]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil (2002)]]'' (as the "M92F S.T.A.R.S. Custom")
* ''[[S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl]]'' (as the "Martha")
* ''[[Saints Row]]''
* ''[[Shadow Force: Razor Unit]]''

== Beretta 92FS Inox ==
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92FS Inox 9x19mm]]
Inox is short for Inoxidizable, which just means that the slide and frame are stainless instead of black.

=== Film ===

* [[Jason Patric]] as Tellis in ''[[Narc]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Vincent in ''[[Ronin]]''

* Haitian gang members in ''[[Bad Boys II]]''

* [[Michael Madsen]] as Blood in ''[[Beyond the Law]]''

* [[Mekhi Phifer]] as Andre and [[Michael Kelly]] as CJ in ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]]''

* Police officers in ''[[Ghost Rider]]''

* [[Ray Stevenson]] as Frank Castle in [[Punisher: War Zone]]''

* [[Viggo Mortensen]] as Tom Stall and several mafia henchmen in ''[[A History of Violence]]''

* [[Rowan Atkinson]] as Johnny English in ''[[Johnny English]]''

* [[Milla Jovovich]] as Alice in ''[[Resident Evil]]''

* [[Chris Tucker]] as Detective James Carter in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Lindsey Ginter]] as Holloway in ''[[Beverly Hills Cop 3]]''

* [[Flex Alexander]] as Clarence Dewey and [[Samuel L. Jackson]] as FBI Agent Neville Flynn in ''[[Snakes on a Plane]]''

* [[Michael Papajohn]] as the carjacker in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Frank Martin in ''[[Transporter, The|The Transporter]]''

* [[Michael Gross]] as Burt Gummer in ''[[Tremors 2: Aftershocks]]''

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Joe Hallenbeck in ''[[The Last Boy Scout]]''

* [[Tom Sizemore]] as boss Paulie Pintero in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* [[James Remar]] as Agent Markham in ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]''

* One of Jack Travis' henchmen in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as Toorop in ''[[Babylon A.D.]]'' (fitted with custom compensator)

* [[Adam Goldberg]] as The Hebrew Hammer in ''[[The Hebrew Hammer]]''

* [[Terry Crews]] as Washington in ''[[Street Kings]]''

* [[Ben Foster]] as Mars Krupcheck in ''[[Hostage (2005)|Hostage]]''

* [[Andrew Bryniarski]] as Larry Eugene Phillips Jr. in ''[[44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shoot-out]]''

* [[Yau-Gene Chan]] as Peter Wei in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Natasha Henstridge]] as Lt. Melanie Ballard in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* Police Officers in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* [[Simon Baker]] as Riley in ''[[Land of the Dead]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Frank Martin in ''[[Transporter 2]]'' (promotional material only)

=== Television ===

* [[Peter Facinelli]] as Van Ray in ''[[Fastlane]]''

* [[Klaus J. Behrendt]] in ''[[Tatort]]''

* ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]''

*''[[Smallville]]''

* [[Chuck Norris]] as Cordell Walker in ''[[Walker: Texas Ranger]]''

* [[Jeff Kaake]] as Thomas Cole in ''[[Viper]]''

* [[Kiefer Sutherland]] as Agent Jack Bauer in ''[[24]]''

* [[Juliet Aubrey]] as Helen Cutter in ''[[Primeval]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Stranglehold]]''

* ''[[Resident Evil: Director's Cut]]''

* ''[[Saints Row 2]]''

* ''[[Urban Terror]]''

* ''[[Uncharted: Drake's Fortune]]''

=== Anime ===

* Revy in ''[[Black Lagoon]]'' (customized with longer barrels and ivory grips, named "Sword Cutlass," a reference to ''[[Romeo + Juliet]]'')

* Hirooka and Momokichi's body guards in ''[[Mezzo Forte]]''

== Beretta 92FS Compact ==

[[Image:Beretta_compact.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92FS Compact 9x19mm]]
The compact version of the Beretta 92FS, featuring a smaller frame and a shorter barrel and slide.

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Paycheck]]|| [[Colm Feore]] || John Wolfe || || 2003
|-
| [[Paycheck]] || || Henchmen || || 2003
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon 2]] || || L.A.P.D. Detective || || 1989
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92FS Centurion ==

A compact version of the Beretta 92FS, featuring the standard frame, but with a shorter barrel and slide.
[[Image:Beretta92Centurion.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92 Centurion 9x19mm]]

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The Matrix Reloaded]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || || 2003
|-
| [[The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || || 2003
|-
| [[The Rock]] || [[Nicolas Cage]] || Agent Stanley Goodspeed ||Inox finish || 1996
|-
| [[Mission: Impossible 2]] || [[Tom Cruise]] || Ethan Hunt || || 2000
|-
| [[Hard Rain]] || [[Peter Murnik]] || Trooper Phil || Inox finish || 1998
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon 2]]|| || || || 1989
|-
| [[Hollow Point]]|| || || || 1996
|-
|}

=== Television ===

* ''[[The Beast]]''

 

== Beretta 92FS Brigadier ==
[[Image:44 elenco.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS Brigadier 9x19mm]]
A Beretta 92FS with a heavier slide (recognizable by the large triangular projections running halfway along the slide over the barrel).

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || With two-tone finish || 2003
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || || Q-Ball gang member || With two-tone finish || 2003
|-
| [[Mission: Impossible 2]] || [[Tom Cruise]] || Ethan Hunt || || 2000
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92FS Brigadier Inox ==
[[Image:BrigadierInox.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Beretta 92FS Brigadier Inox 9x19mm with custom grips, as seen in ''The Matrix Revolutions'']]
A Beretta 92FS Brigadier featuring Beretta's Inox finish.

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || With custom grips || 2003
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || || Guard || With custom grips || 2003
|-
|}
 

== Beretta 92G Elite 1A ==
[[Image:Beretta92GElite1A.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92G Elite 1A - 9x19mm]]

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Live Free or Die Hard]] || || Terrorist || || 2007
|-
|}

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

== Beretta 92G Elite II ==
[[Image:Beretta 92G Elite II.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92G Elite II 9x19mm]]

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[XXX 2: State of the Union]] || [[Ice Cube]] || Darius Stone || || 2005
|-
| [[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]] || [[Angelina Jolie]] || Jane Smith || || 2005
|-
| [[Pineapple Express]] || [[Rosie Perez]] || Officer Carol Brazier || || 2008
|-
|}

=== Television ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Jonathan Togo]] || Ryan Wolfe || [[CSI: Miami]] || || 2002 - ????
|-
|}

===Video Games===

* ''[[Counter Strike: Source]]'' (as the ".40 Dual Elite" - wielded akimbo)

* ''[[Army of Two]]''

* ''[[Counter-Strike Online]]'' (as the ".40 Dual Elite" - wielded akimbo)

* ''[[Fahrenheit]] ([[Indigo Prophecy]])'' used by Detective Carla Valenti and Detective Tyler Miles
 

== Beretta 92 ==
[[Image:Beretta92oldest.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92, the first Beretta 92 Series model produced, noted by rounded trigger guard, butt located magazine release, and frame mounted safety (pre-decocking safety) - 9x19mm.]]
The first model Beretta, this model featured a rounded trigger guard, frame mounted slide stop safety (as opposed to the later pistols' slide mounted decocking safety), an early style floor plate, and a butt located magazine release.

''Note: Refering to any other model of Beretta as a "Beretta 92" when not referring to this model is incorrect designation.''

===Film===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Bourne Identity, The (1988)|The Bourne Identity]] || [[Richard Chamberlain]] || Jason Bourne || || 1988
|-
| [[Hotel Rwanda]] || || Rwandan Army Commander || || 2004
|-
| [[Hotel Rwanda]] || [[Fana Mokoena]] || General Bizimungu || || 2004
|-
| [[Hurt Locker, The|The Hurt Locker]] || [[Jeremy Renner]] || SSGT. William James || || 2008
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92S ==
[[Image:Beretta Mod92S.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Beretta Model 92S - 9x19mm. This is one of the earliest Beretta 92 variants. Note the magazine released button on the bottom of the pistol grip and early style magazine floor plate.]]
The first modification of the original 92; Beretta modified the Beretta 92 by adding a slide-mounted combined safety and decocking lever, replacing the frame mounted manual thumb safety. This model only has a decocking safety on the left side, the later [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92SB|Beretta 92SB]] would make the safety ambidextrous.

===Film===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Wanted]] || [[James McAvoy]] || Wesley || With custom ornate grips and compensator || 2008
|-
| [[Wanted]] || [[David O'Hara]] || Mr. X || With custom ornate grips and compensator || 2008
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92SB ==
[[Image:BerettaM92SB.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Beretta Model 92SB - 9x19mm (note rounded trigger guard and flat bottom magazine).]]
The previous Air Force sidearm model of the Beretta 92, easily identified by its rounded trigger guard as the 92F and 92FS would later incorporate the squared trigger guard. Also to note, a 92S is the same with only a right handed decocker and the magazine release placed lower on the frame, the SB is an ambidextrous safety version with the release placed at the end of the trigger guard, making the S somewhat obsolete.

===Film===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Owen Wilson]] || Lt. Chris Burnett || || 2001
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Gabriel Macht]] || Lt. Stackhouse || || 2001
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Vladimir Mashkov]] || Sasha || || 2001
|-
| [[Independence Day]] || [[Adam Baldwin]] || Major Mitchell || || 1996
|-
| [[Toy Soldiers]] || [[Michael Champion]] || Jack Thorpe || || 1991
|-
| [[Ice Harvest, The|The Ice Harvest]] || [[Randy Quaid]] || Bill Guerrard || With wood grips and chrome finish || 2005
|-
| [[Rock, The|The Rock]] || [[Tony Todd]] || Captain Darrow || With wood grips || 1996
|-
| [[Bourne Supremacy, The|The Bourne Supremacy]] || [[Matt Damon]] || Jason Bourne || || 2004
|-
|}

===Television===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Fred Dryer]] || Det. Rick Hunter || [[Hunter]] || || 1984 - 1985
|-
| [[Gary Graham]] || Det. Matthew Sikes || [[Alien Nation - The Series]] || || 1989 - 1990
|-
| [[Juliet Aubrey]] || Helen Cutter || [[Primeval]] || || 2007 - ????
|-
|}

===Video Games===

* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]'' (as the M9)

== Beretta 92SB-C ==

[[Image:92SB-C.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Beretta 92SB-C 9x19mm, compact model of the 92SB.]]
The compact version of the Beretta 92SB.

===Film===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[True Lies]]|| [[Tia Carrere]] || Juno skinner || || 1994
|-
|}

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

== Beretta M9A1 ==

A new version of the military M9, with a Picatinny rail and checkered back strap.

[[Image:BerettaM9A1.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta M9A1 - 9x19mm. Updated version of the military M9 Beretta. It has an integral rail for mounting flashlights or lasers and checkered back strap for better grip, similar to that seen on [[Glock]] pistols]]

===Films===
* ''[[Death Race]]''

===Video Games===
* ''[[Freedom Fighters]]''
* ''[[Shadow Force: Razor Unit]]''
* ''[[Killing Floor]]''
 

== Beretta 90two ==
[[Image:Beretta 90two02.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Beretta 90Two Type F - 9x19mm]]

=== Anime ===

* Tres "Gunslinger" Iqus in ''[[Trinity Blood]]'' (heavily customized with laser pointers)

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Beretta 92 pistol series

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'''The Beretta 92 and variants are used by the following actors in the following movies, TV series, anime, and video games:'''

''NOTE: In the past, the Beretta 92F and 92FS have often been misspelled on IMFDB as "M92F" (as this page was originally titled), "M92FS", or "92 FS" with a space in between the "92" and "FS". '''These are incorrect spellings'''; the correct versions are '''"Beretta 92F"''' or '''"Beretta 92FS"'''. Please do not use any of the mis-spelled versions on any future pages, and please correct older pages with this error.''

==Specifications==

'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 9x19mm (92 series), .40 S&W (96 series), 9x21mm IMI (98 series)

'''Capacity:''' 10,11 (96 series) 10,12 (90-two) 10,15,17,20 (92&98 series) 10,13 (Compact L) 8 rounds (Compact M)

'''Fire Modes:''' Semiautomatic

== Beretta 92F/FS ==
Also known as the M9 in U.S. military service (''however, there are few - if any- actual "M9s" seen in movies and TV shows; property masters and armorers always use the civilian 92FS, even when the pistols are seen in the hands of actors playing U.S. military personnel''). Four out of five branches of the military issue the Beretta M9; all five did until 2006 when the USCG adopted the [[SIG-Sauer P229]].

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92F - 9x19mm. This well worn movie gun is the '''original''' Beretta 92F that [[Bruce Willis]] used in ''[[Die Hard]]'' and was also used by [[Mel Gibson]] in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series. This is the hero screen used live firing gun in both films and has since been 'retired' to a glass museum case. Note the left handed magazine release, incorporated in order to accommodate Willis' "south paw" shooting.]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm. This well worn movie gun is the Beretta 92FS that [[Bruce Willis]] used in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'', ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', and had a guest appearance in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. This gun was also used by [[Sylvester Stallone]] in ''[[Demolition Man]]''. ]]
[[Image:Beretta_two_tone-1-.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Factory two tone Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:M9-pistolet.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta M9 9x19mm. U.S. military-issue 92FS. ''Note nomenclature on slide distinguishing this from a standard civilian Beretta 92FS''.]]

=== Film ===

* [[Will Smith]] as Lt. Col. Dr. Robert Neville in ''[[I Am Legend]]''

* [[Mykelti Williamson]] as Sgt. Drucker in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Liam Neeson]] as Bryan Mills in ''[[Taken]]''

* Undercover Officers in ''[[La Haine]]''

* [[Richard Grieco]] as Michael Corben(Promotional shots) and Pierre in ''[[Teen Agent]]''

* Assassins in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' (fitted with suppressors)

* [[Jason Bose Smith]] as Little Henry, a carjacker, and LAPD officers in ''[[American History X]]''

* U.S. Army Rangers in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* [[Sean Patrick Flanery]] as Connor MacManus, [[Norman Reedus]] as Murphy MacManus, and [[David Della Rocco]] as Rocco ("the Funny Man") in ''[[The Boondock Saints]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''

* [[Diego Sandoval]] as ''Empty Gun Man'' in ''[[Desperado]]'' (fitted with suppressor)

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Lt. John McClane in the ''[[Die Hard]]'' series

* An L.A.P.D. SWAT officer, [[Alan Rickman]] as Hans Gruber, and [[Alexander Godunov]] as Karl in ''[[Die Hard]]''

* [[Nicolas Cage]] as Castor Troy and [[Dominique Swain]] as Jamie Archer in ''[[Face/Off]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as Jack Carter in ''[[Get Carter (2001)|Get Carter]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Tequila Yuen and [[Tony Leung]] as Alan in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Mark Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Waise Lee]] as Shing, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, and Triad gang members in ''[[A Better Tomorrow]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ken Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, [[Dean Shek]] as Lung Si, [[Fui-On Shing]] as Ko's Right Hand Man, [[Ming Yan Lung]] as Chong, [[Shan Kwan]] as Ko Ying Pui, and others in ''[[A Better Tomorrow II]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ah Jong in ''[[The Killer]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as John Lee in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Detective Nick Chen in ''[[The Corruptor]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Josh Hartnett]] as Detective K.C. Calden in ''[[Hollywood Homicide]]''

* [[Kim Bodnia]] as Harald in ''[[In China They Eat Dogs]]''

* [[Adam Baldwin]] as Major Mitchell, U.S. military and Secret Service personnel in ''[[Independence Day]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Jarhead]]''

* [[Mel Gibson]] as Detective Martin Riggs in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series ''(fitted with a laser sight in [[Lethal Weapon 4]])''

* L.A.P.D. officers and [[Rene Russo]] as Sergeant Lorna Cole in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Leon in ''[[Leon (The Professional)]]''(Customized with Compensators and Silencers)

* [[Jared Leto]] as Vitaly Orlov in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as DEA Agent Sean Vetter and [[Larenz Tate]] as DEA Agent Demetrius Hicks in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* [[Keanu Reeves]] as Neo in ''[[The Matrix]]'' and in ''[[The Matrix Revolutions]]''

* FBI Agents and [[Jackie Chan]] as Chief Inspector Lee in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Dennis Quaid]] as Guy and [[Stellan Skarsgard]] as Peter Dominic in ''[[Savior]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[The Siege]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* L.A.P.D. patrol officers and one of Montel's cronies in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' ''(the latter being fitted with a silencer)''

* [[Robert Patrick]] as the T-1000 in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]] as the T-X in ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* [[Ethan Hawke]] as Officer Jake Hoyt in ''[[Training Day]]''

* [[Kate Beckinsale]] as Selene in ''[[Underworld]]'' (fitted with compensators and modified to fire full auto)

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Volcano]]''

* N.S.A. agent posing as a robber at the 'diner' in ''[[xXx]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[X-Men]]''

* [[Lou Diamond Phillips]] as Cisco in ''[[The Big Hit]]''

* U.S. Navy S.E.A.L.S., [[Sean Connery]] as John Patrick Mason, and [[Nicolas Cage]] as FBI Agent Stanley Goodspeed in ''[[The Rock]]'' (Connery and Cage using one fitted with a tactical flashlight)

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Lions for Lambs]]''

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Bob Lee Swagger in ''[[Shooter]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as John Spartan in ''[[Demolition Man]]''

* [[Jet Li]] as Gabriel Law in ''[[The One]]''.

* [[Steven Seagal]] as Nico Toscani in ''[[Above the Law]]''

* Police in ''[[Vantage Point]]''

* [[Steve Carell]] as Agent 86 in ''[[Get Smart]]''

* [[Scott Caan]] as Jones in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* Japanese soldiers in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* [[Martin Lawrence]] as Miles Logan in''[[Blue Streak]]''

* [[Elizabeth Banks]] as Starla Grant in ''[[Slither]]''

* Shinji Mimura in [[Battle Royale|Battle Royale(Film)]]

* [[Tom Cruise]] as Ethan Hunt in ''[[Mission: Impossible 3]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* Rookie Kincaid in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* [[Clive Owen]] as Louis Salinger in [[The International]]

* Minneapolis P.D. officers in ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''

* ''[[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]'' (2008)

* Omar in ''[[Traitor]]''

* Mace in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* An assassin in ''[[The Sentinel]]'', fitted with a suppressor.

* Detectives Curtis and Anderson in ''[[Unknown]]''

* Truck driver in ''[[Dreamcatcher]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Dragon Wars: D-War]]''

* [[Andy Whitfield]] as Gabriel in ''[[Gabriel]]'' (dual-wielded with silencers)

* The corrupt police officers hired by Dominic Greene in ''[[Quantum of Solace]]''

* Kansas City Police officers and detectives in ''[[Mad Money]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Chev Chelios in ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]''

* A member of the french national police in ''[[MR 73]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''

* [[Esai Morales]] as Staff Sergeant Stern in ''[[In the Army Now]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Sheriff Pangborn in ''[[Needful Things]]''

* [[Tengiz Borisoff]] as Josip Barada in ''[[Red Heat]]''

* [[Sue Price]] as Alex Sinclair in ''[[Nemesis 2: Nebula]], [[Nemesis III: Prey Harder]] and [[Nemesis 4: Death Angel]]''

* [[Barry Pepper]] as Mike Norton in ''[[Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The]]''

* [[Ben Kingley]] as Frank Falenczyk in ''[[You Kill Me]]

=== Television ===

* ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]''

* ''[[Survivors]]''

* ''[[Bugs]]'' (episode "A Sporting Chance")

* ''[[Stand, The]]''

* Numerous characters in ''[[CSI: Miami]]''

* U.S. military personnel in ''[[JAG]]''

* [[Donnie Wahlberg]] as Captain Horst Cali in ''[[The Kill Point]]''

* [[Currie Graham]] as Cpl. Shaver in ''[[Over There]]''

* U.S. military personnel in ''[[Stargate: SG1]]''

* [[Keifer Sutherland]] as Agent Jack Bauer in ''[[24]]''

* ''[[The Sopranos]]''

* Many characters in ''[[Jericho (TV series)|Jericho]]''

* ''[[NCIS]]''

* Militant extremists in ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' (episode "Future's End")

* Spenser (Robert Urich) in ''[[Spenser: For Hire]]''

* ''[[Seven Days]]''

* ''[[Silk Stalkings]]''

* Numerous characters in ''[[Lost]]''

* Many Villians and most police officers in ''[[Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]''

* Sarah Connor [[Lena Headey]], Derek Reese [[Brian Austin Green]], John Connor [[Thomas Dekker]], and Police Officers in ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Southland]]''

* ''[[Situation Critical]]''

* Many Characters In [[Criminal Minds]]

* [[Will Yun Lee]] as Jae Kim, [[Isaiah Washington]] as Antonio Pope, [[Jordan Bridges]] as Tom Hastings, [[Aleks Paunovic]] as BG Assault Team Leader Curtis and various Berkut Group Tactical officers in ''[[Bionic Woman]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]]'' as DEA Agent Jane Vasco in ''[[Painkiller Jane]]''

=== Anime ===

* ''[[Gunsmith Cats]]''

* Black Scissors enforcers and a hijacker in ''[[Mezzo DSA]]''

* John McClaine in ''[[Mezzo Forte]]''

* Knights of Paris (with silencers) in ''[[Noir]]''

* Rimelda Jorg and other Gazth-Sonika military personnel in ''[[Madlax]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[America's Army]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' (with and without silencer)
* ''[[Battlefield 2 Special Forces]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2 Euro Force]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2: Modern Combat]]'' (with and without silencer)
* ''[[Combat Arms]]''
* ''[[Delta Force: Task Force Dagger]]''
* ''[[Enter the Matrix]]''
* ''[[Jagged Alliance 2]]''
* ''[[Max Payne]]''
* ''[[Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes]]'' and ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]'' (including one modified as a tranq dart gun used by Snake)
* ''[[Operation 7]]''
* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas]]''
* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil Games]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil 3: Nemesis]]'' (as the "M92F S.T.A.R.S. Custom")
* ''[[Resident Evil 5]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil (2002)]]'' (as the "M92F S.T.A.R.S. Custom")
* ''[[S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl]]'' (as the "Martha")
* ''[[Saints Row]]''
* ''[[Shadow Force: Razor Unit]]''

== Beretta 92FS Inox ==
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92FS Inox 9x19mm]]
Inox is short for Inoxidizable, which just means that the slide and frame are stainless instead of black.

=== Film ===

* [[Jason Patric]] as Tellis in ''[[Narc]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Vincent in ''[[Ronin]]''

* Haitian gang members in ''[[Bad Boys II]]''

* [[Michael Madsen]] as Blood in ''[[Beyond the Law]]''

* [[Mekhi Phifer]] as Andre and [[Michael Kelly]] as CJ in ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]]''

* Police officers in ''[[Ghost Rider]]''

* [[Ray Stevenson]] as Frank Castle in [[Punisher: War Zone]]''

* [[Viggo Mortensen]] as Tom Stall and several mafia henchmen in ''[[A History of Violence]]''

* [[Rowan Atkinson]] as Johnny English in ''[[Johnny English]]''

* [[Milla Jovovich]] as Alice in ''[[Resident Evil]]''

* [[Chris Tucker]] as Detective James Carter in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Lindsey Ginter]] as Holloway in ''[[Beverly Hills Cop 3]]''

* [[Flex Alexander]] as Clarence Dewey and [[Samuel L. Jackson]] as FBI Agent Neville Flynn in ''[[Snakes on a Plane]]''

* [[Michael Papajohn]] as the carjacker in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Frank Martin in ''[[Transporter, The|The Transporter]]''

* [[Michael Gross]] as Burt Gummer in ''[[Tremors 2: Aftershocks]]''

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Joe Hallenbeck in ''[[The Last Boy Scout]]''

* [[Tom Sizemore]] as boss Paulie Pintero in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* [[James Remar]] as Agent Markham in ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]''

* One of Jack Travis' henchmen in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as Toorop in ''[[Babylon A.D.]]'' (fitted with custom compensator)

* [[Adam Goldberg]] as The Hebrew Hammer in ''[[The Hebrew Hammer]]''

* [[Terry Crews]] as Washington in ''[[Street Kings]]''

* [[Ben Foster]] as Mars Krupcheck in ''[[Hostage (2005)|Hostage]]''

* [[Andrew Bryniarski]] as Larry Eugene Phillips Jr. in ''[[44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shoot-out]]''

* [[Yau-Gene Chan]] as Peter Wei in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Natasha Henstridge]] as Lt. Melanie Ballard in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* Police Officers in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* [[Simon Baker]] as Riley in ''[[Land of the Dead]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Frank Martin in ''[[Transporter 2]]'' (promotional material only)

=== Television ===

* [[Peter Facinelli]] as Van Ray in ''[[Fastlane]]''

* [[Klaus J. Behrendt]] in ''[[Tatort]]''

* ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]''

*''[[Smallville]]''

* [[Chuck Norris]] as Cordell Walker in ''[[Walker: Texas Ranger]]''

* [[Jeff Kaake]] as Thomas Cole in ''[[Viper]]''

* [[Kiefer Sutherland]] as Agent Jack Bauer in ''[[24]]''

* [[Juliet Aubrey]] as Helen Cutter in ''[[Primeval]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Stranglehold]]''

* ''[[Resident Evil: Director's Cut]]''

* ''[[Saints Row 2]]''

* ''[[Urban Terror]]''

* ''[[Uncharted: Drake's Fourtune]]''

=== Anime ===

* Revy in ''[[Black Lagoon]]'' (customized with longer barrels and ivory grips, named "Sword Cutlass," a reference to ''[[Romeo + Juliet]]'')

* Hirooka and Momokichi's body guards in ''[[Mezzo Forte]]''

== Beretta 92FS Compact ==

[[Image:Beretta_compact.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92FS Compact 9x19mm]]
The compact version of the Beretta 92FS, featuring a smaller frame and a shorter barrel and slide.

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Paycheck]]|| [[Colm Feore]] || John Wolfe || || 2003
|-
| [[Paycheck]] || || Henchmen || || 2003
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon 2]] || || L.A.P.D. Detective || || 1989
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92FS Centurion ==

A compact version of the Beretta 92FS, featuring the standard frame, but with a shorter barrel and slide.
[[Image:Beretta92Centurion.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92 Centurion 9x19mm]]

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The Matrix Reloaded]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || || 2003
|-
| [[The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || || 2003
|-
| [[The Rock]] || [[Nicolas Cage]] || Agent Stanley Goodspeed ||Inox finish || 1996
|-
| [[Mission: Impossible 2]] || [[Tom Cruise]] || Ethan Hunt || || 2000
|-
| [[Hard Rain]] || [[Peter Murnik]] || Trooper Phil || Inox finish || 1998
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon 2]]|| || || || 1989
|-
| [[Hollow Point]]|| || || || 1996
|-
|}

=== Television ===

* ''[[The Beast]]''

 

== Beretta 92FS Brigadier ==
[[Image:44 elenco.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS Brigadier 9x19mm]]
A Beretta 92FS with a heavier slide (recognizable by the large triangular projections running halfway along the slide over the barrel).

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || With two-tone finish || 2003
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || || Q-Ball gang member || With two-tone finish || 2003
|-
| [[Mission: Impossible 2]] || [[Tom Cruise]] || Ethan Hunt || || 2000
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92FS Brigadier Inox ==
[[Image:BrigadierInox.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Beretta 92FS Brigadier Inox 9x19mm with custom grips, as seen in ''The Matrix Revolutions'']]
A Beretta 92FS Brigadier featuring Beretta's Inox finish.

=== Film ===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || With custom grips || 2003
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || || Guard || With custom grips || 2003
|-
|}
 

== Beretta 92G Elite 1A ==
[[Image:Beretta92GElite1A.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92G Elite 1A - 9x19mm]]

===Film===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Live Free or Die Hard]] || || Terrorist || || 2007
|-
|}

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

== Beretta 92G Elite II ==
[[Image:Beretta 92G Elite II.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92G Elite II 9x19mm]]

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[XXX 2: State of the Union]] || [[Ice Cube]] || Darius Stone || || 2005
|-
| [[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]] || [[Angelina Jolie]] || Jane Smith || || 2005
|-
| [[Pineapple Express]] || [[Rosie Perez]] || Officer Carol Brazier || || 2008
|-
|}

=== Television ===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Jonathan Togo]] || Ryan Wolfe || [[CSI: Miami]] || || 2002 - ????
|-
|}

===Video Games===

* ''[[Counter Strike: Source]]'' (as the ".40 Dual Elite" - wielded akimbo)

* ''[[Army of Two]]''

* ''[[Counter-Strike Online]]'' (as the ".40 Dual Elite" - wielded akimbo)

* ''[[Fahrenheit]] ([[Indigo Prophecy]])'' used by Detective Carla Valenti and Detective Tyler Miles
 

== Beretta 92 ==
[[Image:Beretta92oldest.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92, the first Beretta 92 Series model produced, noted by rounded trigger guard, butt located magazine release, and frame mounted safety (pre-decocking safety) - 9x19mm.]]
The first model Beretta, this model featured a rounded trigger guard, frame mounted slide stop safety (as opposed to the later pistols' slide mounted decocking safety), an early style floor plate, and a butt located magazine release.

''Note: Refering to any other model of Beretta as a "Beretta 92" when not referring to this model is incorrect designation.''

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Bourne Identity, The (1988)|The Bourne Identity]] || [[Richard Chamberlain]] || Jason Bourne || || 1988
|-
| [[Hotel Rwanda]] || || Rwandan Army Commander || || 2004
|-
| [[Hotel Rwanda]] || [[Fana Mokoena]] || General Bizimungu || || 2004
|-
| [[Hurt Locker, The|The Hurt Locker]] || [[Jeremy Renner]] || SSGT. William James || || 2008
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92S ==
[[Image:Beretta Mod92S.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Beretta Model 92S - 9x19mm. This is one of the earliest Beretta 92 variants. Note the magazine released button on the bottom of the pistol grip and early style magazine floor plate.]]
The first modification of the original 92; Beretta modified the Beretta 92 by adding a slide-mounted combined safety and decocking lever, replacing the frame mounted manual thumb safety. This model only has a decocking safety on the left side, the later [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92SB|Beretta 92SB]] would make the safety ambidextrous.

===Film===

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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Wanted]] || [[James McAvoy]] || Wesley || With custom ornate grips and compensator || 2008
|-
| [[Wanted]] || [[David O'Hara]] || Mr. X || With custom ornate grips and compensator || 2008
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92SB ==
[[Image:BerettaM92SB.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Beretta Model 92SB - 9x19mm (note rounded trigger guard and flat bottom magazine).]]
The previous Air Force sidearm model of the Beretta 92, easily identified by its rounded trigger guard as the 92F and 92FS would later incorporate the squared trigger guard. Also to note, a 92S is the same with only a right handed decocker and the magazine release placed lower on the frame, the SB is an ambidextrous safety version with the release placed at the end of the trigger guard, making the S somewhat obsolete.

===Film===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Owen Wilson]] || Lt. Chris Burnett || || 2001
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Gabriel Macht]] || Lt. Stackhouse || || 2001
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Vladimir Mashkov]] || Sasha || || 2001
|-
| [[Independence Day]] || [[Adam Baldwin]] || Major Mitchell || || 1996
|-
| [[Toy Soldiers]] || [[Michael Champion]] || Jack Thorpe || || 1991
|-
| [[Ice Harvest, The|The Ice Harvest]] || [[Randy Quaid]] || Bill Guerrard || With wood grips and chrome finish || 2005
|-
| [[Rock, The|The Rock]] || [[Tony Todd]] || Captain Darrow || With wood grips || 1996
|-
| [[Bourne Supremacy, The|The Bourne Supremacy]] || [[Matt Damon]] || Jason Bourne || || 2004
|-
|}

===Television===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Fred Dryer]] || Det. Rick Hunter || [[Hunter]] || || 1984 - 1985
|-
| [[Gary Graham]] || Det. Matthew Sikes || [[Alien Nation - The Series]] || || 1989 - 1990
|-
| [[Juliet Aubrey]] || Helen Cutter || [[Primeval]] || || 2007 - ????
|-
|}

===Video Games===

* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]'' (as the M9)

== Beretta 92SB-C ==

[[Image:92SB-C.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Beretta 92SB-C 9x19mm, compact model of the 92SB.]]
The compact version of the Beretta 92SB.

===Film===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[True Lies]]|| [[Tia Carrere]] || Juno skinner || || 1994
|-
|}

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

== Beretta M9A1 ==

A new version of the military M9, with a Picatinny rail and checkered back strap.

[[Image:BerettaM9A1.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta M9A1 - 9x19mm. Updated version of the military M9 Beretta. It has an integral rail for mounting flashlights or lasers and checkered back strap for better grip, similar to that seen on [[Glock]] pistols]]

===Films===
* ''[[Death Race]]''

===Video Games===
* ''[[Freedom Fighters]]''
* ''[[Shadow Force: Razor Unit]]''
* ''[[Killing Floor]]''
 

== Beretta 90two ==
[[Image:Beretta 90two02.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Beretta 90Two Type F - 9x19mm]]

=== Anime ===

* Tres "Gunslinger" Iqus in ''[[Trinity Blood]]'' (heavily customized with laser pointers)

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Beretta 92 pistol series

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'''The Beretta 92 and variants are used by the following actors in the following movies, TV series, anime, and video games:'''

''NOTE: In the past, the Beretta 92F and 92FS have often been misspelled on IMFDB as "M92F" (as this page was originally titled), "M92FS", or "92 FS" with a space in between the "92" and "FS". '''These are incorrect spellings'''; the correct versions are '''"Beretta 92F"''' or '''"Beretta 92FS"'''. Please do not use any of the mis-spelled versions on any future pages, and please correct older pages with this error.''

==Specifications==

'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 9x19mm (92 series), .40 S&W (96 series), 9x21mm IMI (98 series)

'''Capacity:''' 10,11 (96 series) 10,12 (90-two) 10,15,17,20 (92&98 series) 10,13 (Compact L) 8 rounds (Compact M)

'''Fire Modes:''' Semiautomatic

== Beretta 92F/FS ==
Also known as the M9 in U.S. military service (''however, there are few - if any- actual "M9s" seen in movies and TV shows; property masters and armorers always use the civilian 92FS, even when the pistols are seen in the hands of actors playing U.S. military personnel''). Four out of five branches of the military issue the Beretta M9; all five did until 2006 when the USCG adopted the [[SIG-Sauer P229]].

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92F - 9x19mm. This well worn movie gun is the '''original''' Beretta 92F that [[Bruce Willis]] used in ''[[Die Hard]]'' and was also used by [[Mel Gibson]] in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series. This is the hero screen used live firing gun in both films and has since been 'retired' to a glass museum case. Note the left handed magazine release, incorporated in order to accommodate Willis' "south paw" shooting.]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm. This well worn movie gun is the Beretta 92FS that [[Bruce Willis]] used in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'', ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', and had a guest appearance in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. This gun was also used by [[Sylvester Stallone]] in ''[[Demolition Man]]''. ]]
[[Image:Beretta_two_tone-1-.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Factory two tone Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:M9-pistolet.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta M9 9x19mm. U.S. military-issue 92FS. ''Note nomenclature on slide distinguishing this from a standard civilian Beretta 92FS''.]]

=== Film ===

* [[Will Smith]] as Lt. Col. Dr. Robert Neville in ''[[I Am Legend]]''

* [[Mykelti Williamson]] as Sgt. Drucker in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Liam Neeson]] as Bryan Mills in ''[[Taken]]''

* Undercover Officers in ''[[La Haine]]''

* [[Richard Grieco]] as Michael Corben(Promotional shots) and Pierre in ''[[Teen Agent]]''

* Assassins in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' (fitted with suppressors)

* [[Jason Bose Smith]] as Little Henry, a carjacker, and LAPD officers in ''[[American History X]]''

* U.S. Army Rangers in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* [[Sean Patrick Flanery]] as Connor MacManus, [[Norman Reedus]] as Murphy MacManus, and [[David Della Rocco]] as Rocco ("the Funny Man") in ''[[The Boondock Saints]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]''

* [[Matt Damon]] as Jason Bourne in ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''

* [[Diego Sandoval]] as ''Empty Gun Man'' in ''[[Desperado]]'' (fitted with suppressor)

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Lt. John McClane in the ''[[Die Hard]]'' series

* An L.A.P.D. SWAT officer, [[Alan Rickman]] as Hans Gruber, and [[Alexander Godunov]] as Karl in ''[[Die Hard]]''

* [[Nicolas Cage]] as Castor Troy and [[Dominique Swain]] as Jamie Archer in ''[[Face/Off]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as Jack Carter in ''[[Get Carter (2001)|Get Carter]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Tequila Yuen and [[Tony Leung]] as Alan in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Mark Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Waise Lee]] as Shing, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, and Triad gang members in ''[[A Better Tomorrow]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ken Gor, [[Ti Lung]] as Sung Tse Ho, [[Leslie Cheung]] as Sung Tse Kit, [[Dean Shek]] as Lung Si, [[Fui-On Shing]] as Ko's Right Hand Man, [[Ming Yan Lung]] as Chong, [[Shan Kwan]] as Ko Ying Pui, and others in ''[[A Better Tomorrow II]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ah Jong in ''[[The Killer]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as John Lee in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Detective Nick Chen in ''[[The Corruptor]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Heat]]''

* [[Josh Hartnett]] as Detective K.C. Calden in ''[[Hollywood Homicide]]''

* [[Kim Bodnia]] as Harald in ''[[In China They Eat Dogs]]''

* [[Adam Baldwin]] as Major Mitchell, U.S. military and Secret Service personnel in ''[[Independence Day]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Jarhead]]''

* [[Mel Gibson]] as Detective Martin Riggs in the ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' series ''(fitted with a laser sight in [[Lethal Weapon 4]])''

* L.A.P.D. officers and [[Rene Russo]] as Sergeant Lorna Cole in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Leon in ''[[Leon (The Professional)]]''(Customized with Compensators and Silencers)

* [[Jared Leto]] as Vitaly Orlov in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as DEA Agent Sean Vetter and [[Larenz Tate]] as DEA Agent Demetrius Hicks in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* [[Keanu Reeves]] as Neo in ''[[The Matrix]]'' and in ''[[The Matrix Revolutions]]''

* FBI Agents and [[Jackie Chan]] as Chief Inspector Lee in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Dennis Quaid]] as Guy and [[Stellan Skarsgard]] as Peter Dominic in ''[[Savior]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[The Siege]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* L.A.P.D. patrol officers and one of Montel's cronies in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' ''(the latter being fitted with a silencer)''

* [[Robert Patrick]] as the T-1000 in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]] as the T-X in ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* [[Ethan Hawke]] as Officer Jake Hoyt in ''[[Training Day]]''

* [[Kate Beckinsale]] as Selene in ''[[Underworld]]'' (fitted with compensators and modified to fire full auto)

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Volcano]]''

* N.S.A. agent posing as a robber at the 'diner' in ''[[xXx]]''

* N.Y.P.D. officers in ''[[X-Men]]''

* [[Lou Diamond Phillips]] as Cisco in ''[[The Big Hit]]''

* U.S. Navy S.E.A.L.S., [[Sean Connery]] as John Patrick Mason, and [[Nicolas Cage]] as FBI Agent Stanley Goodspeed in ''[[The Rock]]'' (Connery and Cage using one fitted with a tactical flashlight)

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Lions for Lambs]]''

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Bob Lee Swagger in ''[[Shooter]]''

* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as John Spartan in ''[[Demolition Man]]''

* [[Jet Li]] as Gabriel Law in ''[[The One]]''.

* [[Steven Seagal]] as Nico Toscani in ''[[Above the Law]]''

* Police in ''[[Vantage Point]]''

* [[Steve Carell]] as Agent 86 in ''[[Get Smart]]''

* [[Scott Caan]] as Jones in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* Japanese soldiers in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* [[Martin Lawrence]] as Miles Logan in''[[Blue Streak]]''

* [[Elizabeth Banks]] as Starla Grant in ''[[Slither]]''

* Shinji Mimura in [[Battle Royale|Battle Royale(Film)]]

* [[Tom Cruise]] as Ethan Hunt in ''[[Mission: Impossible 3]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* Rookie Kincaid in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* [[Clive Owen]] as Louis Salinger in [[The International]]

* Minneapolis P.D. officers in ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''

* ''[[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]'' (2008)

* Omar in ''[[Traitor]]''

* Mace in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* An assassin in ''[[The Sentinel]]'', fitted with a suppressor.

* Detectives Curtis and Anderson in ''[[Unknown]]''

* Truck driver in ''[[Dreamcatcher]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Dragon Wars: D-War]]''

* [[Andy Whitfield]] as Gabriel in ''[[Gabriel]]'' (dual-wielded with silencers)

* The corrupt police officers hired by Dominic Greene in ''[[Quantum of Solace]]''

* Kansas City Police officers and detectives in ''[[Mad Money]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Chev Chelios in ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]''

* A member of the french national police in ''[[MR 73]]''

* U.S. Army soldiers in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''

* [[Esai Morales]] as Staff Sergeant Stern in ''[[In the Army Now]]''

* [[Ed Harris]] as Sheriff Pangborn in ''[[Needful Things]]''

* [[Tengiz Borisoff]] as Josip Barada in ''[[Red Heat]]''

* [[Sue Price]] as Alex Sinclair in ''[[Nemesis 2: Nebula]], [[Nemesis III: Prey Harder]] and [[Nemesis 4: Death Angel]]''

* [[Barry Pepper]] as Mike Norton in ''[[Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The]]''

* [[Ben Kingley]] as Frank Falenczyk in ''[[You Kill Me]]

=== Television ===

* ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]''

* ''[[Survivors]]''

* ''[[Bugs]]'' (episode "A Sporting Chance")

* ''[[Stand, The]]''

* Numerous characters in ''[[CSI: Miami]]''

* U.S. military personnel in ''[[JAG]]''

* [[Donnie Wahlberg]] as Captain Horst Cali in ''[[The Kill Point]]''

* [[Currie Graham]] as Cpl. Shaver in ''[[Over There]]''

* U.S. military personnel in ''[[Stargate: SG1]]''

* [[Keifer Sutherland]] as Agent Jack Bauer in ''[[24]]''

* ''[[The Sopranos]]''

* Many characters in ''[[Jericho (TV series)|Jericho]]''

* ''[[NCIS]]''

* Militant extremists in ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' (episode "Future's End")

* Spenser (Robert Urich) in ''[[Spenser: For Hire]]''

* ''[[Seven Days]]''

* ''[[Silk Stalkings]]''

* Numerous characters in ''[[Lost]]''

* Many Villians and most police officers in ''[[Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]''

* Sarah Connor [[Lena Headey]], Derek Reese [[Brian Austin Green]], John Connor [[Thomas Dekker]], and Police Officers in ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]''

* L.A.P.D. officers in ''[[Southland]]''

* ''[[Situation Critical]]''

* Many Characters In [[Criminal Minds]]

* [[Will Yun Lee]] as Jae Kim, [[Isaiah Washington]] as Antonio Pope, [[Jordan Bridges]] as Tom Hastings, [[Aleks Paunovic]] as BG Assault Team Leader Curtis and various Berkut Group Tactical officers in ''[[Bionic Woman]]''

* [[Kristanna Loken]]'' as DEA Agent Jane Vasco in ''[[Painkiller Jane]]''

=== Anime ===

* ''[[Gunsmith Cats]]''

* Black Scissors enforcers and a hijacker in ''[[Mezzo DSA]]''

* John McClaine in ''[[Mezzo Forte]]''

* Knights of Paris (with silencers) in ''[[Noir]]''

* Rimelda Jorg and other Gazth-Sonika military personnel in ''[[Madlax]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[America's Army]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' (with and without silencer)
* ''[[Battlefield 2 Special Forces]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2 Euro Force]]''
* ''[[Battlefield 2: Modern Combat]]'' (with and without silencer)
* ''[[Combat Arms]]''
* ''[[Delta Force: Task Force Dagger]]''
* ''[[Enter the Matrix]]''
* ''[[Jagged Alliance 2]]''
* ''[[Max Payne]]''
* ''[[Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake]]''
* ''[[Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes]]'' and ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]'' (including one modified as a tranq dart gun used by Snake)
* ''[[Operation 7]]''
* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas]]''
* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil Games]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil 3: Nemesis]]'' (as the "M92F S.T.A.R.S. Custom")
* ''[[Resident Evil 5]]''
* ''[[Resident Evil (2002)]]'' (as the "M92F S.T.A.R.S. Custom")
* ''[[S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl]]'' (as the "Martha")
* ''[[Saints Row]]''
* ''[[Shadow Force: Razor Unit]]''

== Beretta 92FS Inox ==
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92FS Inox 9x19mm]]
Inox is short for Inoxidizable, which just means that the slide and frame are stainless instead of black.

=== Film ===

* [[Jason Patric]] as Tellis in ''[[Narc]]''

* [[Jean Reno]] as Vincent in ''[[Ronin]]''

* Haitian gang members in ''[[Bad Boys II]]''

* [[Michael Madsen]] as Blood in ''[[Beyond the Law]]''

* [[Mekhi Phifer]] as Andre and [[Michael Kelly]] as CJ in ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]]''

* Police officers in ''[[Ghost Rider]]''

* [[Ray Stevenson]] as Frank Castle in [[Punisher: War Zone]]''

* [[Viggo Mortensen]] as Tom Stall and several mafia henchmen in ''[[A History of Violence]]''

* [[Rowan Atkinson]] as Johnny English in ''[[Johnny English]]''

* [[Milla Jovovich]] as Alice in ''[[Resident Evil]]''

* [[Chris Tucker]] as Detective James Carter in ''[[Rush Hour]]''

* [[Lindsey Ginter]] as Holloway in ''[[Beverly Hills Cop 3]]''

* [[Flex Alexander]] as Clarence Dewey and [[Samuel L. Jackson]] as FBI Agent Neville Flynn in ''[[Snakes on a Plane]]''

* [[Michael Papajohn]] as the carjacker in ''[[Spider-Man]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Frank Martin in ''[[Transporter, The|The Transporter]]''

* [[Michael Gross]] as Burt Gummer in ''[[Tremors 2: Aftershocks]]''

* [[Bruce Willis]] as Joe Hallenbeck in ''[[The Last Boy Scout]]''

* [[Tom Sizemore]] as boss Paulie Pintero in ''[[Enemy of the State]]''

* [[James Remar]] as Agent Markham in ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]''

* One of Jack Travis' henchmen in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''

* [[Vin Diesel]] as Toorop in ''[[Babylon A.D.]]'' (fitted with custom compensator)

* [[Adam Goldberg]] as The Hebrew Hammer in ''[[The Hebrew Hammer]]''

* [[Terry Crews]] as Washington in ''[[Street Kings]]''

* [[Ben Foster]] as Mars Krupcheck in ''[[Hostage (2005)|Hostage]]''

* [[Andrew Bryniarski]] as Larry Eugene Phillips Jr. in ''[[44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shoot-out]]''

* [[Yau-Gene Chan]] as Peter Wei in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* [[Natasha Henstridge]] as Lt. Melanie Ballard in ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]''

* Police Officers in ''[[Strange Days]]''

* [[Simon Baker]] as Riley in ''[[Land of the Dead]]''

* [[Jason Statham]] as Frank Martin in ''[[Transporter 2]]'' (promotional material only)

=== Television ===

* [[Peter Facinelli]] as Van Ray in ''[[Fastlane]]''

* [[Klaus J. Behrendt]] in ''[[Tatort]]''

* ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]''

*''[[Smallville]]''

* [[Chuck Norris]] as Cordell Walker in ''[[Walker: Texas Ranger]]''

* [[Jeff Kaake]] as Thomas Cole in ''[[Viper]]''

* [[Kiefer Sutherland]] as Agent Jack Bauer in ''[[24]]''

* [[Juliet Aubrey]] as Helen Cutter in ''[[Primeval]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Stranglehold]]''

* ''[[Resident Evil: Director's Cut]]''

* ''[[Saints Row 2]]''

* ''[[Urban Terror]]''

* ''[[Uncharted:Drake's Fourtune]]''

=== Anime ===

* Revy in ''[[Black Lagoon]]'' (customized with longer barrels and ivory grips, named "Sword Cutlass," a reference to ''[[Romeo + Juliet]]'')

* Hirooka and Momokichi's body guards in ''[[Mezzo Forte]]''

== Beretta 92FS Compact ==

[[Image:Beretta_compact.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92FS Compact 9x19mm]]
The compact version of the Beretta 92FS, featuring a smaller frame and a shorter barrel and slide.

=== Film ===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Paycheck]]|| [[Colm Feore]] || John Wolfe || || 2003
|-
| [[Paycheck]] || || Henchmen || || 2003
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon 2]] || || L.A.P.D. Detective || || 1989
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92FS Centurion ==

A compact version of the Beretta 92FS, featuring the standard frame, but with a shorter barrel and slide.
[[Image:Beretta92Centurion.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92 Centurion 9x19mm]]

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The Matrix Reloaded]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || || 2003
|-
| [[The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || || 2003
|-
| [[The Rock]] || [[Nicolas Cage]] || Agent Stanley Goodspeed ||Inox finish || 1996
|-
| [[Mission: Impossible 2]] || [[Tom Cruise]] || Ethan Hunt || || 2000
|-
| [[Hard Rain]] || [[Peter Murnik]] || Trooper Phil || Inox finish || 1998
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon 2]]|| || || || 1989
|-
| [[Hollow Point]]|| || || || 1996
|-
|}

=== Television ===

* ''[[The Beast]]''

 

== Beretta 92FS Brigadier ==
[[Image:44 elenco.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta 92FS Brigadier 9x19mm]]
A Beretta 92FS with a heavier slide (recognizable by the large triangular projections running halfway along the slide over the barrel).

=== Film ===

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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || With two-tone finish || 2003
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || || Q-Ball gang member || With two-tone finish || 2003
|-
| [[Mission: Impossible 2]] || [[Tom Cruise]] || Ethan Hunt || || 2000
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92FS Brigadier Inox ==
[[Image:BrigadierInox.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Beretta 92FS Brigadier Inox 9x19mm with custom grips, as seen in ''The Matrix Revolutions'']]
A Beretta 92FS Brigadier featuring Beretta's Inox finish.

=== Film ===

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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] || Trinity || With custom grips || 2003
|-
| [[Matrix Revolutions, The|The Matrix Revolutions]] || || Guard || With custom grips || 2003
|-
|}
 

== Beretta 92G Elite 1A ==
[[Image:Beretta92GElite1A.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92G Elite 1A - 9x19mm]]

===Film===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Live Free or Die Hard]] || || Terrorist || || 2007
|-
|}

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

== Beretta 92G Elite II ==
[[Image:Beretta 92G Elite II.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92G Elite II 9x19mm]]

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[XXX 2: State of the Union]] || [[Ice Cube]] || Darius Stone || || 2005
|-
| [[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]] || [[Angelina Jolie]] || Jane Smith || || 2005
|-
| [[Pineapple Express]] || [[Rosie Perez]] || Officer Carol Brazier || || 2008
|-
|}

=== Television ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Jonathan Togo]] || Ryan Wolfe || [[CSI: Miami]] || || 2002 - ????
|-
|}

===Video Games===

* ''[[Counter Strike: Source]]'' (as the ".40 Dual Elite" - wielded akimbo)

* ''[[Army of Two]]''

* ''[[Counter-Strike Online]]'' (as the ".40 Dual Elite" - wielded akimbo)

* ''[[Fahrenheit]] ([[Indigo Prophecy]])'' used by Detective Carla Valenti and Detective Tyler Miles
 

== Beretta 92 ==
[[Image:Beretta92oldest.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Beretta 92, the first Beretta 92 Series model produced, noted by rounded trigger guard, butt located magazine release, and frame mounted safety (pre-decocking safety) - 9x19mm.]]
The first model Beretta, this model featured a rounded trigger guard, frame mounted slide stop safety (as opposed to the later pistols' slide mounted decocking safety), an early style floor plate, and a butt located magazine release.

''Note: Refering to any other model of Beretta as a "Beretta 92" when not referring to this model is incorrect designation.''

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Bourne Identity, The (1988)|The Bourne Identity]] || [[Richard Chamberlain]] || Jason Bourne || || 1988
|-
| [[Hotel Rwanda]] || || Rwandan Army Commander || || 2004
|-
| [[Hotel Rwanda]] || [[Fana Mokoena]] || General Bizimungu || || 2004
|-
| [[Hurt Locker, The|The Hurt Locker]] || [[Jeremy Renner]] || SSGT. William James || || 2008
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92S ==
[[Image:Beretta Mod92S.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Beretta Model 92S - 9x19mm. This is one of the earliest Beretta 92 variants. Note the magazine released button on the bottom of the pistol grip and early style magazine floor plate.]]
The first modification of the original 92; Beretta modified the Beretta 92 by adding a slide-mounted combined safety and decocking lever, replacing the frame mounted manual thumb safety. This model only has a decocking safety on the left side, the later [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92SB|Beretta 92SB]] would make the safety ambidextrous.

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Wanted]] || [[James McAvoy]] || Wesley || With custom ornate grips and compensator || 2008
|-
| [[Wanted]] || [[David O'Hara]] || Mr. X || With custom ornate grips and compensator || 2008
|-
|}

 

== Beretta 92SB ==
[[Image:BerettaM92SB.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Beretta Model 92SB - 9x19mm (note rounded trigger guard and flat bottom magazine).]]
The previous Air Force sidearm model of the Beretta 92, easily identified by its rounded trigger guard as the 92F and 92FS would later incorporate the squared trigger guard. Also to note, a 92S is the same with only a right handed decocker and the magazine release placed lower on the frame, the SB is an ambidextrous safety version with the release placed at the end of the trigger guard, making the S somewhat obsolete.

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Owen Wilson]] || Lt. Chris Burnett || || 2001
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Gabriel Macht]] || Lt. Stackhouse || || 2001
|-
| [[Behind Enemy Lines]] || [[Vladimir Mashkov]] || Sasha || || 2001
|-
| [[Independence Day]] || [[Adam Baldwin]] || Major Mitchell || || 1996
|-
| [[Toy Soldiers]] || [[Michael Champion]] || Jack Thorpe || || 1991
|-
| [[Ice Harvest, The|The Ice Harvest]] || [[Randy Quaid]] || Bill Guerrard || With wood grips and chrome finish || 2005
|-
| [[Rock, The|The Rock]] || [[Tony Todd]] || Captain Darrow || With wood grips || 1996
|-
| [[Bourne Supremacy, The|The Bourne Supremacy]] || [[Matt Damon]] || Jason Bourne || || 2004
|-
|}

===Television===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Fred Dryer]] || Det. Rick Hunter || [[Hunter]] || || 1984 - 1985
|-
| [[Gary Graham]] || Det. Matthew Sikes || [[Alien Nation - The Series]] || || 1989 - 1990
|-
| [[Juliet Aubrey]] || Helen Cutter || [[Primeval]] || || 2007 - ????
|-
|}

===Video Games===

* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]'' (as the M9)

== Beretta 92SB-C ==

[[Image:92SB-C.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Beretta 92SB-C 9x19mm, compact model of the 92SB.]]
The compact version of the Beretta 92SB.

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[True Lies]]|| [[Tia Carrere]] || Juno skinner || || 1994
|-
|}

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

== Beretta M9A1 ==

A new version of the military M9, with a Picatinny rail and checkered back strap.

[[Image:BerettaM9A1.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Beretta M9A1 - 9x19mm. Updated version of the military M9 Beretta. It has an integral rail for mounting flashlights or lasers and checkered back strap for better grip, similar to that seen on [[Glock]] pistols]]

===Films===
* ''[[Death Race]]''

===Video Games===
* ''[[Freedom Fighters]]''
* ''[[Shadow Force: Razor Unit]]''
* ''[[Killing Floor]]''
 

== Beretta 90two ==
[[Image:Beretta 90two02.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Beretta 90Two Type F - 9x19mm]]

=== Anime ===

* Tres "Gunslinger" Iqus in ''[[Trinity Blood]]'' (heavily customized with laser pointers)

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

The Hunt for Red October

2009-08-16T09:30:43Z

Mcguinness: /* M1911A1 */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''The Hunt for Red October'':'''
[[Image:The Hunt for Red October movie poster.jpg|right|300px]]

== M1911A1 ==

The [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] pistol appears several times towards the end of the film; first in the hands of Commander Bart Mancuso ([[Scott Glenn]]) and Sonar Technician 2nd Class Ronald "Jonsey" Jones ([[Courtney Vance]]). Cmdr. Mancuso later gives his M1911A1 to the C.O. of the ''Red October'', Captain 1st Class Marko Ramius ([[Sean Connery]]) to defend himself with, and issues one to Dr. Jack Ryan ([[Alec Baldwin]]) as well, Ryan using it to kill a GRU sleeper agent attempting to sabotage Ramius' plans to defect to the United States with the ''Red October''. It is interesting to note that although the M1911A1 Mancuso gives Ryan is in the classic leather holster Mancuso's is in the M12 Universal Military holster which was not available at the time the movie was set. Also, in the Tom Clancy book this is based, Ryan uses a Browning Hi Power.

:None of these are genuine M1911A1s. In several of these screencaps (the last in particular), you can see that the bores of the pistols are too small to be .45 ACP. They are most likely Colt Series 70s in 9mm, a common 1911 substitute in movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ROM1911 1.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Cmdr. Mancuso chambers his M1911A1 en-route to the ''Red October'']]
[[Image:ROM1911 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Cmdr. Mancuso with his M1911A1 drawn aboard the ''Red October'']]
[[Image:ROM1911 3.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Sonar Technician 2nd Class Ronald "Jonsey" Jones wielding an M1911A1 aboard the ''Red October'']]
[[Image:ROM1911 4.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Capt. 1st Cass Marko Ramius wields an M1911A1 as he's wounded by the GRU sleeper agent]]
[[Image:ROM1911 5.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Dr. Jack Ryan draws his M1911A1 as he corners the GRU sleeper agent]]
[[Image:ROM1911 6.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Closeup of Dr. Ryan's M1911A1 moments before he fatally shoots the sleeper agent]]

== Makarov PM ==

The [[Makarov PM]] pistol appears in the film being wielded by Cook's Assistant Igor Loginov ([[Tomas Arana]]) who is in fact a GRU sleeper agent planted aboard the ''Red October'', ambushing the protagonists while they're attempting to evade the ''Konovalov'', his attack fatally wounding Cpt. 2nd Rank Vasily Borodin ([[Sam Neill]]) and also wounding Captain 1st Class Marko Ramius ([[Sean Connery]]) when he and Ryan pursue him.

[[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Makarov PM 9x18mm PM]]
[[Image:ROMakarov.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Cook's Assistant Igor Loginov brandishes a Makarov PM]]

== Remington 870 ==

During the battle with the ''Konovalov'', sailors aboard the American frigate ''Reuben James'' can be seen holding [[Remington 870 Shotgun|Remington 870]] shotguns while guarding the rescued crew of the ''Red October''.

[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Remington 870 Police Magnum 12 guage]]
[[Image:ROShotgun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A U.S. Navy Sailor (left, green vest) wields a Remington 870 shotgun]]

== M14 Rifle ==

Near the end of the film, an [[M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] can be seen very briefly in the hands of a U.S. Navy sailor onboard the American frigate ''Reuben James'' when the ''Konovalov'' appears.

[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M14 rifle 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:ROM14.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A U.S. Navy Sailor wields an M14 rifle]]

== Mossberg 500 ==

A U.S. military guard at the Patuxent River Navy Shipyard is seen with a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500 shotgun]] slung over his shoulder.

[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mossberg 500 12 gauge]]
[[Image:ROShotgun 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A guard at the Patuxent River Navy Shipyard with a Mossberg 500 slung over his back]]

==Norinco Type 56==

A Soviet Naval Infantryman in the ''Red October'''s conn can be seen armed with a [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] rifle (note the hooded front sight) standing in for a Russian [[AK-47]] rifle.

[[Image:Type56Standard.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Norinco Type 56 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:ROType56.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A Soviet Naval Infantryman (left) with a Norinco Type 56]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]
[[Category:Espionage]]

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T08:06:46Z

Mcguinness: /* About Me */

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T08:06:04Z

Mcguinness: /* About Me */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

I came across the site when i was trying to find out what the gun Bruce willis used in [[Die Hard]] was and liked the site a lot!

My Favourite gun is the [[M14 Rifle]]

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]

[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]

[[M14 Rifle]]

User talk:S&Wshooter

2009-08-16T07:54:45Z

Mcguinness: /* Australian laws/help */

== Australian laws/help ==
In my part, we can only have bolt action rifles, double barrel shotguns, and certain other ifles. You can get handguns, but only in shooting clubs, and they have huge restrictions.- [[Mcguinness]]

Ya, a lot of people go hunting for foxes and rabbits. Because they're introduced and considered pests, there's no limit. Also farmers nedd them for snakes they could find. Also, 2 questions:When i put the note above on, it says my user page does'nt exist when i put mcguinness on as a link to my page. Why? Also, how would i upload a picture? [[Mcguinness]]

== COWS, RPG, HILARITY ==

yeah there was 4 guys that took us to the middle of this field, they told us noone came there because the locals hated what went on (tourists shooting guns). We actually saw what was left of a cow some guy who had been there had chucked a grenade at, have you been there before! --[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. Seems like its a waste of livestock though-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Italian gun laws ==

Less than you think. Here in Italy are mostly people who are not interested in weapons. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:The 9x19 isn't sold because it considered military ammo. But get it is not really a problem ... - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== You love history? ==
It looks like we have alot of common ground here, Smith. We are like two partners in a awesome buddy cop film. We may be different but in the end, we help eachother. Just like the Lethal Weapon series. And here is something from the Something Awful forums that i though you would like. Knowing what you think of Michael Bay and his movies and all.-23:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3068945&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=72#post362539899 Michael Bay's version of The Great Gatsby.]
:Shiiiiiit. It's fucking funny though. But that's why i like Michael Bay. But if he shitted all over The Great Gatsby then i would hate him.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Shit. Texas is that hot? Damm. It's winter at this time of the year here in Brazil. It's cold as all shit. I can't even take a bath right.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::84 degrees? How the fuck can people live like that? My city never got that hot.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:59, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Well, Brazilians in Sao Paulo (the State i live in) are also used to the state trying to kill us. But here alleast the Wether is alot of time is moderate. Except in the summer or the winter.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::Six months of summer? Jeez, that's overkill.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Fireants? Be careful with those. They sting like a motherfucker. They are horrible.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== 4506 huh? ==
Hey man, I was reading your page and noted your like of the 4506. This is a fine gun, and like you I'd love to own one, damn Canadian gun laws.....

Anyhow, also noticed your gripes about the RB6 weapon selections. Totally agree on that man. why no S and W? Why no M16 or M4? And your right, the G36C is way overused. If they make a Vegas 3, I wanna see better selection, and no identical guns (stat wise)--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 01:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== USAF Joke ==
That's a good joke Smith. The only military stuff that i find funny is the Running cadence songs and the Troops atitududes.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:I also find funny all that "put stuff on your helmet" and the "write on your helmet" insanity that US Troops did back in 'Nam. I Told you, when i join the Army, i'mma put an Ace of Spades card in my helmet band. Also about the jokes, here in Brazil, most of the Military jokes are about how much the Brazilian military sucks even though they don't.
::I shouln't have derailed the discussion. Shiit.

::Here, have some special forces jokes.
[http://home.comcast.net/~sfa26/jokes-SF.htm http://home.comcast.net/~sfa26/jokes-SF.htm]
I hope you like them.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Yep, I've sold some of them. I asked him if I could. He didn't care much because they were guns he didn't really like much himself, hence the reason he gave them for me. My S&W 4506 is for sale at The Firing Line and Carolina Gun Talk now (I made a topic about it in the IMFDB forum and showed everyone pictures of it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Talk Page==
Actually, it was used in coordination with my previous userpage, but now I've completely renovated my entire page, that the talk page part is still there with my intent to remove it, but apparently not soon enough. :P By the way, it's always nice to meet another user on the site, and I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot. --{{User:Blemo/Sig}}

==RE: Crimson Rivers==
No problem. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Quoted from your Profile==
'''".25 caliber pistols - perfect guns to use if you absolutely want to get killed by the person who you just pissed off by shooting. Has barely any stopping power."'''

Have you ever heard the quote by Jeff Cooper?:

'''"If you ever buy a .25, don't load it. Because if you load it, you may shoot it. And if you shoot it, you may hit someone. And if they find out about it, they could be very angry with you."'''

I think he summed up quite nicely how underpowered the .25 is there. Personally I can't stand any "Pocket Pistol" that can't fit more than three fingers on it. They are too damn small! And only built to last about a 1000 rounds.

I was playing Rainbow Six Vegas 2 today, and finally unlocked the Glock 18C. I was very curious to see how many bullets the "extended" magazine would hold, since I was pissed to find it only held 10+1 rounds in the first game and had no extended magazines. I was somewhat miffed to find the extended magazine was a 17-rounder. The actual Glock 18 has a 19-round standard magazine, and a 33-round extended. But, you can't expect much from video games. And a Barret M468 as the AR of the game? Come on, I wanted an M4A1! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== RE: Birth Certificate ==
It's Great to know fellow patriots such as you and myself can see that the Muslim Anti-Christ is Destroying the God's Nation!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Hawaii? He came from Kenyaland.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
::The Soviets? I Didn't know Zero was working with the commies too!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Okey Seriously now, I didn't know the Soviets were messing around in Kenya.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
::But, Didn't Restore Hope star in December, 1992 and the Soviet Union fall in 1991?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Most Likely.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

==DSR-1==
It's only for the military only and for hunters. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==The Hangover==
Oh, you weren't logged in? I deleted it because it looked like most of the other pages made without any effort. Remember to categorize, use the equal signs to put the page in sections, add a movie poster, and include a gun image, description, and gun page link. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::My bad. But you had no sections on the page, just bolded titles and then the gun descriptions. How about this, you tell me the guns used and I'll build the page in proper format for you so you can use it for future reference? You can add to the descriptions if you want. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::If it's a 1911 part, it should fit your 1911, you'll just need to properly fit it by filing it down to exact size. Is the grip safety spur really so small that you get hammer bit often, or are you gripping a tad too high? Because as you can see on my profile my 1911 has an old spec M1911 grip safety spur before the A1's exteneded improvement, and I don't get slide bit. But then again, my hands are pretty average. ;). Personally I dislike beavertails because they make it hard to uncock the hammer with one hand and look kind of ugly (and snags on clothing). I'd rather just take an A1 spur anyday, since it does a good job of keeping your hand webbing out of the way. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::No problem. If you don't want the beavertail to cut your hands, file down the sharp edges until they are round enough to your liking. If it is a blued beavertail, touch up the spots with instant bluing. If it's stainless, just polish the filed spots until right. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::::Unfortunately, you'd have to bead-blast all the original finish off, and then re-parkerize it. If you cannot re-parkerize it, you're better off bluing it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Oliveira's talk page==
Okey,but this user Lisle202 only speaks German and ruins my pages. Lisle202 was in trouble for posting bootlegs,and only speaks German he lacks and says english words incorrectly as he wrote "mussle" instead of "muzzle". - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 16:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

User talk:S&Wshooter

2009-08-16T05:46:40Z

Mcguinness: /* Australian laws */

== Australian laws ==
In my part, we can only have bolt action rifles, double barrel shotguns, and certain other ifles. You can get handguns, but only in shooting clubs, and they have huge restrictions.- [[Mcguinness]]

Ya, a lot of people go hunting for foxes and rabbits. Because they're introduced and considered pests, there's no limit. Also farmers nedd them for snakes they could find. [[Mcguinness]]

== COWS, RPG, HILARITY ==

yeah there was 4 guys that took us to the middle of this field, they told us noone came there because the locals hated what went on (tourists shooting guns). We actually saw what was left of a cow some guy who had been there had chucked a grenade at, have you been there before! --[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. Seems like its a waste of livestock though-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Italian gun laws ==

Less than you think. Here in Italy are mostly people who are not interested in weapons. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:The 9x19 isn't sold because it considered military ammo. But get it is not really a problem ... - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== You love history? ==
It looks like we have alot of common ground here, Smith. We are like two partners in a awesome buddy cop film. We may be different but in the end, we help eachother. Just like the Lethal Weapon series. And here is something from the Something Awful forums that i though you would like. Knowing what you think of Michael Bay and his movies and all.-23:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3068945&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=72#post362539899 Michael Bay's version of The Great Gatsby.]
:Shiiiiiit. It's fucking funny though. But that's why i like Michael Bay. But if he shitted all over The Great Gatsby then i would hate him.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Shit. Texas is that hot? Damm. It's winter at this time of the year here in Brazil. It's cold as all shit. I can't even take a bath right.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::84 degrees? How the fuck can people live like that? My city never got that hot.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:59, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Well, Brazilians in Sao Paulo (the State i live in) are also used to the state trying to kill us. But here alleast the Wether is alot of time is moderate. Except in the summer or the winter.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::Six months of summer? Jeez, that's overkill.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Fireants? Be careful with those. They sting like a motherfucker. They are horrible.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== 4506 huh? ==
Hey man, I was reading your page and noted your like of the 4506. This is a fine gun, and like you I'd love to own one, damn Canadian gun laws.....

Anyhow, also noticed your gripes about the RB6 weapon selections. Totally agree on that man. why no S and W? Why no M16 or M4? And your right, the G36C is way overused. If they make a Vegas 3, I wanna see better selection, and no identical guns (stat wise)--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 01:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== USAF Joke ==
That's a good joke Smith. The only military stuff that i find funny is the Running cadence songs and the Troops atitududes.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:I also find funny all that "put stuff on your helmet" and the "write on your helmet" insanity that US Troops did back in 'Nam. I Told you, when i join the Army, i'mma put an Ace of Spades card in my helmet band. Also about the jokes, here in Brazil, most of the Military jokes are about how much the Brazilian military sucks even though they don't.
::I shouln't have derailed the discussion. Shiit.

::Here, have some special forces jokes.
[http://home.comcast.net/~sfa26/jokes-SF.htm http://home.comcast.net/~sfa26/jokes-SF.htm]
I hope you like them.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Yep, I've sold some of them. I asked him if I could. He didn't care much because they were guns he didn't really like much himself, hence the reason he gave them for me. My S&W 4506 is for sale at The Firing Line and Carolina Gun Talk now (I made a topic about it in the IMFDB forum and showed everyone pictures of it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Talk Page==
Actually, it was used in coordination with my previous userpage, but now I've completely renovated my entire page, that the talk page part is still there with my intent to remove it, but apparently not soon enough. :P By the way, it's always nice to meet another user on the site, and I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot. --{{User:Blemo/Sig}}

==RE: Crimson Rivers==
No problem. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Quoted from your Profile==
'''".25 caliber pistols - perfect guns to use if you absolutely want to get killed by the person who you just pissed off by shooting. Has barely any stopping power."'''

Have you ever heard the quote by Jeff Cooper?:

'''"If you ever buy a .25, don't load it. Because if you load it, you may shoot it. And if you shoot it, you may hit someone. And if they find out about it, they could be very angry with you."'''

I think he summed up quite nicely how underpowered the .25 is there. Personally I can't stand any "Pocket Pistol" that can't fit more than three fingers on it. They are too damn small! And only built to last about a 1000 rounds.

I was playing Rainbow Six Vegas 2 today, and finally unlocked the Glock 18C. I was very curious to see how many bullets the "extended" magazine would hold, since I was pissed to find it only held 10+1 rounds in the first game and had no extended magazines. I was somewhat miffed to find the extended magazine was a 17-rounder. The actual Glock 18 has a 19-round standard magazine, and a 33-round extended. But, you can't expect much from video games. And a Barret M468 as the AR of the game? Come on, I wanted an M4A1! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== RE: Birth Certificate ==
It's Great to know fellow patriots such as you and myself can see that the Muslim Anti-Christ is Destroying the God's Nation!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Hawaii? He came from Kenyaland.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
::The Soviets? I Didn't know Zero was working with the commies too!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Okey Seriously now, I didn't know the Soviets were messing around in Kenya.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
::But, Didn't Restore Hope star in December, 1992 and the Soviet Union fall in 1991?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Most Likely.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

==DSR-1==
It's only for the military only and for hunters. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==The Hangover==
Oh, you weren't logged in? I deleted it because it looked like most of the other pages made without any effort. Remember to categorize, use the equal signs to put the page in sections, add a movie poster, and include a gun image, description, and gun page link. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::My bad. But you had no sections on the page, just bolded titles and then the gun descriptions. How about this, you tell me the guns used and I'll build the page in proper format for you so you can use it for future reference? You can add to the descriptions if you want. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::If it's a 1911 part, it should fit your 1911, you'll just need to properly fit it by filing it down to exact size. Is the grip safety spur really so small that you get hammer bit often, or are you gripping a tad too high? Because as you can see on my profile my 1911 has an old spec M1911 grip safety spur before the A1's exteneded improvement, and I don't get slide bit. But then again, my hands are pretty average. ;). Personally I dislike beavertails because they make it hard to uncock the hammer with one hand and look kind of ugly (and snags on clothing). I'd rather just take an A1 spur anyday, since it does a good job of keeping your hand webbing out of the way. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::No problem. If you don't want the beavertail to cut your hands, file down the sharp edges until they are round enough to your liking. If it is a blued beavertail, touch up the spots with instant bluing. If it's stainless, just polish the filed spots until right. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::::Unfortunately, you'd have to bead-blast all the original finish off, and then re-parkerize it. If you cannot re-parkerize it, you're better off bluing it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Oliveira's talk page==
Okey,but this user Lisle202 only speaks German and ruins my pages. Lisle202 was in trouble for posting bootlegs,and only speaks German he lacks and says english words incorrectly as he wrote "mussle" instead of "muzzle". - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 16:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:11:52Z

Mcguinness: /* Pages I've helped with */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

My Favourite gun is the [[M14 Rifle]]

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]

[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]

[[M14 Rifle]]

M14 Rifle

2009-08-16T04:11:21Z

Mcguinness: /* M14 Rifle */

'''The M14 rifle and variants can be seen in the following films, television series, and video games used by the following actors:'''
==Specifications==

'''Type:''' Battle Rifle

'''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

'''Capacity:''' 20 round box magazine

'''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto/Full-Auto (M14, M14E2); Semi-Auto (M21, M25) or Civilian models (M14A, M1A)

== M14 Rifle ==
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|right|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:M14E2SAW.jpg|thumb|right|500px|M14E2 Light Machine Gun - a variant of the M14 that was an attempt at an early SAW, meant to supplement the [[Browning Automatic Rifle|B.A.R.]]s and [[M60 machine gun|M60]]s used by American and ARVN troops in the Vietnam War. The design has some obvious flaws as an LMG, being that this rifle doesn't seem very practical as an automatic weapon in the first place.).- 7.62x51mm NATO]]

=== Film ===
* ''[[A Perfect World]]'' (1993)

* U.S. Marine recruits in ''[[Full Metal Jacket]]''

* U.S. Army recruits in ''[[Forrest Gump]]''

* [[Clancy Brown]] as Capt. Byron Hadley in ''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]''

* [[John Allen Nelson]] as Timothy Byrant in ''[[Saigon Commandos]]'' (with sniper scope)

* [[Tom Cruise]] as Ron Kovic in ''[[Born on the Fourth of July]]''

* [[Johnny Strong]] as SFC Randy Shughart in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (with camouflage paint scheme and M68 Aimpoint scope)

* U.S. Navy honor guard in ''[[Clear and Present Danger]]''

* A sniper in ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' (deleted scene)

* U.S. Marine Security Detail in ''[[Thirteen Days]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[The Siege of Firebase Gloria]]''

* A U.S. Navy sailor in ''[[The Hunt for Red October]]''

* Gangmember in ''[[South Central]]''

* U.S. Army Troops and [[Jack Black]] in ''[[Mars Attacks!]]''

* Ford Lincoln Mercury in ambush scene in ''[[The Postman]]''

* MIke Force in ''[[The Green Berets]]'' (1968)

* U.S. Army troops in ''[[The Green Berets]]'' (1968)

* Viet Cong in ''[[The Green Berets]]'' (1968)

=== Television ===

* ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]''

* ''[[CSI: Miami]]''

* ''[[Burn Notice]]''

* ''[[Hawaii Five-O]]''

* ''[[Gomer Pyle]]''

* ''[[American Dreams]]''

*"[[Jericho]]"

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2]]'' (with optional scope and silencer)

* ''[[Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]''

* ''[[Battlefield: Vietnam]]''

* ''[[Stubbs the Zombie]]''

* ''[[Hitman Blood Money]]''

* ''[[Men of Valor]]''

* ''[[Shellshock Nam '67]]''

* ''[[Vietcong|Vietcong: Fist Alpha]]''

* ''[[Combat Arms]]'' (with synthetic stock)

* ''[[Operation 7]]''

* ''[[Silent Hill: Homecoming]]''

== Special ==
2 M14's are in the IMFDB Logo.

== M21 Designated Marksman Rifle/M25 Sniper Rifle ==
[[Image:M21 m1a.jpg|thumb|right|450px|M21 Designated Marksman Rifle 7.62x51mm NATO with folding bipod]]

=== Film ===

* [[Charles Ingram]] as Demetrius "Silk" Owens in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' (with camouflage paint scheme and burlap strips)

* U.S. Army Snipers in ''[[28 Weeks Later]]''

* Hatcher's henchmen in ''[[The Rundown]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Operation Flashpoint]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]''

* ''[[Battlefield: Vietnam]]''

* ''[[Men of Valor]]''

* ''[[Shellshock Nam '67]]''

* ''[[Vietcong|Vietcong: Fist Alpha]]''

* ''[[ArmA II]]''

* ''[[Project Reality]]''

* ''[[Delta Force: Black Hawk Down]]''

== SOCOM 16 ==
The military stopped issuing F/A M14's because they were too hard to control, existing rifles were fixed to fire semi only. M14/M1A's come in 3 barrel lengths 22", 18" bush or scout and the 16"socom.
The military uses the 22 or 18. the navy seals prefer the 18" in the sage ebr chassis. MOD 0 or MOD 1

[[Image:Springfield Armory M1A Socom 16.JPG|thumb|right|400px|SOCOM 16 7.62x51mm NATO with M68 Aimpoint scope]]
=== Film ===

* An Umbrella soldier in ''[[Resident Evil: Apocalypse]]'' (fitted with M68 Aimpoint scope)

===Video Games===

* ''[[Operation 7]]''

* [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]] (being semi-automatic and with a shortened barrel, it more likely to me an M1A SOC16 than regular M14 rifle in CoD4:MW)

* ''[[Dark Sector]]'' (as "VX Carbine")

== Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR ==

This weapon is actually called Mk. 14 Mod 0 EBR (Mark 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle). Even thought the internal parts are from an M14, this weapon is not called M14 EBR. This is a common mistake. It was developed for the US Navy (SEAL Teams to be more precise), and thus it is type classified as a "Mark" weapons system.

[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR. 7.62x51 NATO, with a Harris bipod and vertical RIS foregrip.]]

===Film===

* [[Angelina Jolie]] as Jane Smith in ''[[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]]''

===Video Games===

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]]'' (with suppressor, laser sight, and flashlight all optional)

* ''[[Operation 7]]'' (with a variety of optics, foregrip, stocks, and 16", 18" and 22" barrel lengths)

* ''[[Modern Warfare 2]]'' From the screen shots, "SOAP" has a MK14 MOD 1 on his back and not a mod 0
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Sniper Rifle]]

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:05:32Z

Mcguinness: /* About Me */

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:05:22Z

Mcguinness: /* About Me */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

My Favourite gun is the [[M14 Rifle. ]]

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]

[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:04:43Z

Mcguinness: /* About Me */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

My Favourite gun is the [[M14]]

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]

[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:04:25Z

Mcguinness: /* About Me */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

My Favourite gun is the [[M14
DMR]]

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]

[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:03:13Z

Mcguinness: /* Pages I've helped with */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]

[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:03:05Z

Mcguinness: /* Pages I've helped with */

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:02:54Z

Mcguinness: /* Pages I've helped with */

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T04:02:27Z

Mcguinness: /* Pages I've helped with */

Grand Theft Auto IV

2009-08-16T04:01:47Z

Mcguinness: /* Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" */

'''The following weapons appear in the video game ''Grand Theft Auto IV'':'''
[[Image:Gta-iv-boxart.png|right|300px]]

= Grand Theft Auto IV =

== Handguns ==

=== Glock 22 ===

The standard handgun in Grand Theft Auto IV is visibly a second generation [[Glock#Glock_22|Glock 22]]. It is the standard issue police sidearm and is used by all law enforcement agents as well as many other characters throughout the game. Jacob gives Niko one in "Jamaican Heat", and Niko uses it to cover Jacob during the level, and he later uses it to execute various characters, notably Vlad Glebov, and Mikhail Faustin. He later uses one when he and Roman enter the apartment of Bernie Crane (aka Florian Cravic), and in the "Deal: Mr and Mrs. Bellic", a hitman uses one to try and kill Niko, but ends up killing Roman with it. In the "Revenge: Out of Commission" Level, Jimmy Pegorino uses one during his last stand against Niko. Though it's difficult to discern this detail in-game, looking at the weapon's texture close up reveals the number "22" on the slide, confirming that it is a Glock 22, despite it's 17 round magazine (incorrect for the caliber). In addition, the front sights on the weapon are a mirror image of the rear sights, which is obviously incorrect. It is also the primary gun a vigalante will use when attacking the player.

[[Image:Glock_22.jpg|thumb|none|350px|2nd-generation Glock 22 .40 S&W]]
[[Image:Pistol 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Glock 22]]
[[Image:Nikomadglockskillz.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The in-game Glock 22 clone]]

=== IMI Desert Eagle ===

The .357 Magnum [[Desert Eagle]], called a 'Combat Pistol' in the game, is the more powerful handgun in GTA IV, and is used by a variety of characters throughout the game. In the mission "The Holland Play", if you decide to kill Playboy X without a cinematic execution,and before he retreats into an alley, you can pick one up next to his dead body. This comes in handy, as the pistol is not available for purchase until much later, after the mission "Museum Piece" is completed. In "The Lost and Damned", Ray Boccino uses one to threaten Johnny Klebitz and Jim Fitzgerald in the opening cinematic of the mission "Was it Worth it?".
[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|350px|none|Desert Eagle .50 AE Black (the one in game is chambered in .357 Magnum)]]
[[Image:Deagle.png|thumb|400px|none|Desert Eagle]]
[[Image:4354-gta-iv-screenshot.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Niko aims a Desert Eagle]]

== Shotguns ==

=== Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" ===

The [[Ithaca_37#Ithaca_37_.22Stakeout.22|Ithaca 37 "Stakeout"]], appears as the "Pump Shotgun". It is used by various gang members and by some LCPD, N.O.O.S.E. and FIB officers. For some reason, the in-game clone has a side mounted ejection port, instead of a bottom loading/ejection port that all Ithaca 37 shotguns are fitted with in real life. Also, the in-game clone can hold 8 shells, four more than it's real-life counterpart. Packie McReary uses one during the bank robbery in "Three Leaf Clover" before switching to his M4A1, Packie's friend Gordon King uses one during the mission "Waste Not Want Knots", and Jimmy Pegorino briefly uses one to threaten Niko in the opening cinematic to the mission "Flat Line". Biker vigalantes also use this.

[[Image:xxhardball.jpg|none|350px|thumb|Airsoft Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" replica nearly identical to the one used in the game.]]
[[Image:Shotgun 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 "Stakeout"]]
[[Image:Shortyshotty.jpg|none|400px|thumb|Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" in GTA IV]]

=== Remington 11-87 ===
The [[Remington 11-87]] semi-auto appears as the "Combat Shotgun", it becomes available later in the game, and can be obtained from LCPD patrol cars despite the fact that the cops themselves actually use the Pump Shotgun when prevoked. The in-game version can hold 10 shells, two more than it's real-life counterpart. It also has a fancy thumbhole stock. In "The Lost and Damned", there are two versions of this particular weapon avaliable for some reason. The first is the thumbhole stocked version from the original game which is avaliable for purchase from Terry's gun van, and normal weapon shops. The second version is fitted with an M4 style stock. This version seems to be an easter egg, and has to be found in certain locations, such as the apartment building in the mission "Buyers Market". This version also appears in one of the trailers.

[[Image:1187sportsman.jpg|none|350px|thumb|Remington Model 11-87 Tactical Shotgun - 12 gauge. This is a factory configuration for a tactical setup.]]
[[Image:1187 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Remington 11-87]]
[[Image:GTA IV Combat Shotgun.jpg|none|430px|thumb|The Combat Shotgun]]

== Submachine Guns ==

=== IMI Micro Uzi ===

The [[Uzi#Micro_Uzi|Micro Uzi]] is used by many criminals in Liberty City. The weapon has a large magazine capacity of 50 rounds (even though the magazine's dimensions match those of a 32 round magazine) and a high rate of fire, but is somewhat lacking in accuracy and range. Jacob uses one twice in the game, first during the "Russian Revolution" level, and later brandishes one in the final levels of the game. Mikail Faustin also uses one briefly before he is killed by Niko in "The Master and the Molotov".

[[Image:MicroUziPistol02.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Micro Uzi with 32 rd magazine - 9mm]]
[[Image:Uzi.png|thumb|none|400px|Micro Uzi]]
[[Image:4457-gta-iv-screenshot.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Niko showing us his Micro Uzi]]

[[Image:3357 gtaiv broker full auto.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Niko fires a Micro Uzi]]

=== SW MP-10 ===

The [[MP5#Special_Weapons_MP-10_and_SP-10|MP-10]] is standard issue for LCPD N.O.O.S.E. teams and is also used by some gang members. It has a smaller magazine capacity (30 rounds) than the Micro SMG, but is more accurate and has a somewhat longer effective range.

[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|350px|The MP-10]]
[[Image:Mp5 4.png|thumb|none|400px|SW MP-10]]
[[Image:Sw-mp10.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The MP-10 used in game.]]
[[Image:1205334895screen.png|thumb|none|400px|Niko fires the MP-10.]]

== Assault Rifles ==

=== AK-47 ===

The [[AK-47]] is used almost entirely by criminals in the City. This is NOT the AKM, as evidenced by lack of muzzle brake and the stock, which is angled downward compared to an AKM. It is seen many times throughout the game, provided in some missions and brandished by many different characters. Notably, it is used by Jimmy Pegorino in the "Revenge: Mr. and Mrs. Bellic" level when trying to kill Niko, but he accidentally kills Kate McReary instead. In either ending, Niko is seen with it as he stands before either Dmitri Rascalov, or Jimmy Pegorino.

[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Original AK-47 design, hybrid stamped/milled receiver; 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:Ak47.png|thumb|400px|none|AK-47]]
[[Image:Machine_Gun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AK-47 in GTA IV]]

=== M4A1 Carbine ===

The [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4A1 Carbine]] is issued to LCPD N.O.O.S.E teams, prison guards, and select officers guarding public places such as subway stations and the airport, and appears to have the carry handle removed and has only a stick-up rear sight. Niko uses an M4A1 when he rob the Bank of Liberty in the mission "Three Leaf Clover".

[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M4A1 with LE stock and factory grips. The carry handle with iron sights are not removed - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:M4.4.png|thumb|400px|none|M4A1]]
[[Image:M4gta.jpg|none|thumb|400px|The M4A1 Carbine]]

== Sniper Rifles ==

=== Remington 700 ===

The basic bolt action sniper rifle featured in the game is the [[Remington 700]]. It is used by the majority of marksmen in the game. The gun appears to have undergone slight customization, with a 10 round magazine fitted, yet only holds 5. Niko uses one in one level to cover Packie during a drug deal gone wrong, and later he uses one when he hits a construction site with Playboy X.

[[Image:Remington_700_BDL.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Remington 700 Sniper Rifle]]
[[Image:Sniper 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Remington 700]]
[[Image:4355-gta-iv-screenshot.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Niko with a Remington 700]]

=== Heckler & Koch PSG-1 ===

The semi automatic sniper rifle is a [[Heckler_%26_Koch_G3#H.26K_PSG-1|PSG-1]]. Pinpoint accuracy, but overpriced in the game. Holds 10 rounds.

[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1, 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Psg 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1]]
[[Image:4456-gta-iv-screenshot.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Niko aims his H&K PSG-1]]

== Heavy Weapons ==

=== RPG-7 ===

The [[RPG-7]] is the only rocket launcher in the game. Niko uses one when on a mission for Derrick McReary, using it to shoot down a helicopter from a boat.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|RPG-7 rocket launcher, 40mm]]
[[Image:Rl_4.png‎|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7]]
[[Image:Rpggta.jpg|none|thumb|400px|RPG-7 in GTA IV]]

== Miscellaneous ==

=== M26A1 Grenade ===

The [[M26 hand grenade]] has a 5 second fuse from pin release. After 3 seconds, an audible alarm beep is sounded.

[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M26 HE Frag hand grenade]]
[[Image:Grenade 4.png|thumb|none|400px|M26A1 Grenade]]

=== Molotov Cocktails ===

Rudimentary spirit bottles with a rag. Set alight when equipped. Amusingly, Niko does not extinguish the rag before putting them inside his jacket when switching weapons.

[[Image:Molotov_4.png|thumb|400px|none|Molotov Cocktail]]

= ''The Lost and Damned'' (Xbox 360 Exclusive Downloadable Content) =

[[Image:gta-iv-lost-and-damned.jpg|right|300px]]

'''In addition to the previous weapons.'''

=== CZ 75 Automatic ===

The game's version of this weapon is a [[CZ 75|CZ 75 Automatic]], the machine pistol version of the CZ 75 pistol. It holds 17 rounds, and is reffered to as an "Automatic 9mm". It is introduced in the mission "Bad Cop Drop". It is very accurate, and has a very high firing rate, but it isn't that powerful. The game's Glock 22 even seems to do more damage than this pistol.

[[Image:Cz75fa.jpg|thumb|350px|none|CZ 75 Automatic 9x19mm with spare magazine]]
[[Image:ColtM1911 1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny holding a CZ 75 Automatic]]
[[Image:ColtM1911 2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny firing his CZ 75 Automatic]]
[[Image:GTAIVCZ75.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny aims his CZ 75 Automatic at an unknown target as Billy Grey watches.]]

=== Sawn-off double barreled shotgun ===
This sawed-off [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is called the "Sawed off Shotgun" in the game. It is the first weapon that you are equiped with in the game. It can be fired while riding on a Motorcycle, but can't be used in other types of vehicles. Reguardless, it is the only shotgun in the series so far that can be fired from a vehicle. Unlike the other shotguns in the game, this shotgun has an acurate ammo capacity, as it holds only two shells. On a bike, this weapon is very effective, as it can take down almost any target in no time. On foot, it has a very wide range, but a very slow firing rate due to it's small ammo capacity. A good weapon to have, but it can't compare to the game's Street Sweeper.

[[Image:SawedoffshotgunUntouchables.jpg|thumb|350px|none|A sawed off shotgun used in the film The Untouchables, supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]]
[[Image:SWDBSG1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny shooting with his sawn-off shotgun while riding.]]
[[Image:SWDBSG2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny holding his sawn-off shotgun while sliding.]]
[[Image:SWDBS3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny takes cover in an Angels of Death clubhouse with a sawn-off shotgun.]]
[[Image:gta_lost_damned_achievement.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny with a sawn-off shotgun.]]

=== SWD / Cobray Street Sweeper ===

The [[Armsel_Striker_and_variants#SWD.2FCobray_Street_Sweeper|SWD / Cobray Street Sweeper]] is called an "Assault Shotgun" in the game, but is also referred to as "Street Sweeper" by characters. This weapon is arguably the best new weapon introduced in the Lost and Damned. It holds 8 shells, and is fully automatic, with an extremly high firing rate. It can dispatch of ememies,and vehicles in no time, and aparently has the ability to take down helicopters as well. It is introduced in the mission "Heavy Toll", but is notably used during the mission "Shifting Weight", in which you ride on the back of a speeding bike and take out numerous cop cars, SWAT vans, and helicopters with infinite ammo for the shotgun.

[[Image:SWD-StreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SWD / Cobray Street Sweeper with 18-inch barrel; the location of the in-game version's foregrip suggests it is the full-size version with the barrel extension cut off.]]
[[Image:SWDBSG3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|The Assault Shotgun's icon; note the thicker winding key and front sight, features characteristic of the Street Sweeper and Striker-12, but not the Armsel Striker.]]
[[Image:L&DStriker.jpg|thumb|400px|none|The "Assault Shotgun" in-game.]]
[[Image:1340.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny destroys a police cruiser with his Assault Shotgun.]]

=== Heckler & Koch HK69A1 40mm Launcher ===

The [[Heckler & Koch HK69A1 40mm Launcher]] is called the "Grenade Launcher" in the game. It can be used to bounce grenades off walls, and corners in a similar fashion to the RPG. It is introduced in the mission "Action/Reaction". It is very effective, but sometimes overshoots your intended target. Though it fires one grenade at a time, up to 20 can be held in reserve.

[[Image:HK69A1.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Heckler & Koch HK69A1 40mm.]]
[[Image:GTAIV69.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch HK69A1 in-game icon.]]
[[Image:Grenadelauncher.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny with an HK69A1.]]

===Pipe Bombs===
Has basically the same attributes as grenades. Introduced in the mission "Hit the Pipe".

[[Image:up-pipe_bomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johhny tosses a bomb.]]

= ''The Ballad of Gay Tony'' (Xbox 360 Exclusive Downloadable Content) =

[[Image:gta_ballad_of_gay_tony.jpg|right|300px]]

'''Coming Soon!'''

[[Category:Video Game]]
[[Category:Crime]]

Grand Theft Auto IV

2009-08-16T03:59:15Z

Mcguinness: /* Glock 22 */

'''The following weapons appear in the video game ''Grand Theft Auto IV'':'''
[[Image:Gta-iv-boxart.png|right|300px]]

= Grand Theft Auto IV =

== Handguns ==

=== Glock 22 ===

The standard handgun in Grand Theft Auto IV is visibly a second generation [[Glock#Glock_22|Glock 22]]. It is the standard issue police sidearm and is used by all law enforcement agents as well as many other characters throughout the game. Jacob gives Niko one in "Jamaican Heat", and Niko uses it to cover Jacob during the level, and he later uses it to execute various characters, notably Vlad Glebov, and Mikhail Faustin. He later uses one when he and Roman enter the apartment of Bernie Crane (aka Florian Cravic), and in the "Deal: Mr and Mrs. Bellic", a hitman uses one to try and kill Niko, but ends up killing Roman with it. In the "Revenge: Out of Commission" Level, Jimmy Pegorino uses one during his last stand against Niko. Though it's difficult to discern this detail in-game, looking at the weapon's texture close up reveals the number "22" on the slide, confirming that it is a Glock 22, despite it's 17 round magazine (incorrect for the caliber). In addition, the front sights on the weapon are a mirror image of the rear sights, which is obviously incorrect. It is also the primary gun a vigalante will use when attacking the player.

[[Image:Glock_22.jpg|thumb|none|350px|2nd-generation Glock 22 .40 S&W]]
[[Image:Pistol 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Glock 22]]
[[Image:Nikomadglockskillz.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The in-game Glock 22 clone]]

=== IMI Desert Eagle ===

The .357 Magnum [[Desert Eagle]], called a 'Combat Pistol' in the game, is the more powerful handgun in GTA IV, and is used by a variety of characters throughout the game. In the mission "The Holland Play", if you decide to kill Playboy X without a cinematic execution,and before he retreats into an alley, you can pick one up next to his dead body. This comes in handy, as the pistol is not available for purchase until much later, after the mission "Museum Piece" is completed. In "The Lost and Damned", Ray Boccino uses one to threaten Johnny Klebitz and Jim Fitzgerald in the opening cinematic of the mission "Was it Worth it?".
[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|350px|none|Desert Eagle .50 AE Black (the one in game is chambered in .357 Magnum)]]
[[Image:Deagle.png|thumb|400px|none|Desert Eagle]]
[[Image:4354-gta-iv-screenshot.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Niko aims a Desert Eagle]]

== Shotguns ==

=== Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" ===

The [[Ithaca_37#Ithaca_37_.22Stakeout.22|Ithaca 37 "Stakeout"]], appears as the "Pump Shotgun". It is used by various gang members and by some LCPD, N.O.O.S.E. and FIB officers. For some reason, the in-game clone has a side mounted ejection port, instead of a bottom loading/ejection port that all Ithaca 37 shotguns are fitted with in real life. Also, the in-game clone can hold 8 shells, four more than it's real-life counterpart. Packie McReary uses one during the bank robbery in "Three Leaf Clover" before switching to his M4A1, Packie's friend Gordon King uses one during the mission "Waste Not Want Knots", and Jimmy Pegorino briefly uses one to threaten Niko in the opening cinematic to the mission "Flat Line".

[[Image:xxhardball.jpg|none|350px|thumb|Airsoft Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" replica nearly identical to the one used in the game.]]
[[Image:Shotgun 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 "Stakeout"]]
[[Image:Shortyshotty.jpg|none|400px|thumb|Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" in GTA IV]]

=== Remington 11-87 ===
The [[Remington 11-87]] semi-auto appears as the "Combat Shotgun", it becomes available later in the game, and can be obtained from LCPD patrol cars despite the fact that the cops themselves actually use the Pump Shotgun when prevoked. The in-game version can hold 10 shells, two more than it's real-life counterpart. It also has a fancy thumbhole stock. In "The Lost and Damned", there are two versions of this particular weapon avaliable for some reason. The first is the thumbhole stocked version from the original game which is avaliable for purchase from Terry's gun van, and normal weapon shops. The second version is fitted with an M4 style stock. This version seems to be an easter egg, and has to be found in certain locations, such as the apartment building in the mission "Buyers Market". This version also appears in one of the trailers.

[[Image:1187sportsman.jpg|none|350px|thumb|Remington Model 11-87 Tactical Shotgun - 12 gauge. This is a factory configuration for a tactical setup.]]
[[Image:1187 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Remington 11-87]]
[[Image:GTA IV Combat Shotgun.jpg|none|430px|thumb|The Combat Shotgun]]

== Submachine Guns ==

=== IMI Micro Uzi ===

The [[Uzi#Micro_Uzi|Micro Uzi]] is used by many criminals in Liberty City. The weapon has a large magazine capacity of 50 rounds (even though the magazine's dimensions match those of a 32 round magazine) and a high rate of fire, but is somewhat lacking in accuracy and range. Jacob uses one twice in the game, first during the "Russian Revolution" level, and later brandishes one in the final levels of the game. Mikail Faustin also uses one briefly before he is killed by Niko in "The Master and the Molotov".

[[Image:MicroUziPistol02.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Micro Uzi with 32 rd magazine - 9mm]]
[[Image:Uzi.png|thumb|none|400px|Micro Uzi]]
[[Image:4457-gta-iv-screenshot.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Niko showing us his Micro Uzi]]

[[Image:3357 gtaiv broker full auto.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Niko fires a Micro Uzi]]

=== SW MP-10 ===

The [[MP5#Special_Weapons_MP-10_and_SP-10|MP-10]] is standard issue for LCPD N.O.O.S.E. teams and is also used by some gang members. It has a smaller magazine capacity (30 rounds) than the Micro SMG, but is more accurate and has a somewhat longer effective range.

[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|350px|The MP-10]]
[[Image:Mp5 4.png|thumb|none|400px|SW MP-10]]
[[Image:Sw-mp10.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The MP-10 used in game.]]
[[Image:1205334895screen.png|thumb|none|400px|Niko fires the MP-10.]]

== Assault Rifles ==

=== AK-47 ===

The [[AK-47]] is used almost entirely by criminals in the City. This is NOT the AKM, as evidenced by lack of muzzle brake and the stock, which is angled downward compared to an AKM. It is seen many times throughout the game, provided in some missions and brandished by many different characters. Notably, it is used by Jimmy Pegorino in the "Revenge: Mr. and Mrs. Bellic" level when trying to kill Niko, but he accidentally kills Kate McReary instead. In either ending, Niko is seen with it as he stands before either Dmitri Rascalov, or Jimmy Pegorino.

[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Original AK-47 design, hybrid stamped/milled receiver; 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:Ak47.png|thumb|400px|none|AK-47]]
[[Image:Machine_Gun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AK-47 in GTA IV]]

=== M4A1 Carbine ===

The [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4A1 Carbine]] is issued to LCPD N.O.O.S.E teams, prison guards, and select officers guarding public places such as subway stations and the airport, and appears to have the carry handle removed and has only a stick-up rear sight. Niko uses an M4A1 when he rob the Bank of Liberty in the mission "Three Leaf Clover".

[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M4A1 with LE stock and factory grips. The carry handle with iron sights are not removed - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:M4.4.png|thumb|400px|none|M4A1]]
[[Image:M4gta.jpg|none|thumb|400px|The M4A1 Carbine]]

== Sniper Rifles ==

=== Remington 700 ===

The basic bolt action sniper rifle featured in the game is the [[Remington 700]]. It is used by the majority of marksmen in the game. The gun appears to have undergone slight customization, with a 10 round magazine fitted, yet only holds 5. Niko uses one in one level to cover Packie during a drug deal gone wrong, and later he uses one when he hits a construction site with Playboy X.

[[Image:Remington_700_BDL.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Remington 700 Sniper Rifle]]
[[Image:Sniper 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Remington 700]]
[[Image:4355-gta-iv-screenshot.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Niko with a Remington 700]]

=== Heckler & Koch PSG-1 ===

The semi automatic sniper rifle is a [[Heckler_%26_Koch_G3#H.26K_PSG-1|PSG-1]]. Pinpoint accuracy, but overpriced in the game. Holds 10 rounds.

[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1, 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Psg 4.png|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1]]
[[Image:4456-gta-iv-screenshot.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Niko aims his H&K PSG-1]]

== Heavy Weapons ==

=== RPG-7 ===

The [[RPG-7]] is the only rocket launcher in the game. Niko uses one when on a mission for Derrick McReary, using it to shoot down a helicopter from a boat.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|RPG-7 rocket launcher, 40mm]]
[[Image:Rl_4.png‎|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7]]
[[Image:Rpggta.jpg|none|thumb|400px|RPG-7 in GTA IV]]

== Miscellaneous ==

=== M26A1 Grenade ===

The [[M26 hand grenade]] has a 5 second fuse from pin release. After 3 seconds, an audible alarm beep is sounded.

[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M26 HE Frag hand grenade]]
[[Image:Grenade 4.png|thumb|none|400px|M26A1 Grenade]]

=== Molotov Cocktails ===

Rudimentary spirit bottles with a rag. Set alight when equipped. Amusingly, Niko does not extinguish the rag before putting them inside his jacket when switching weapons.

[[Image:Molotov_4.png|thumb|400px|none|Molotov Cocktail]]

= ''The Lost and Damned'' (Xbox 360 Exclusive Downloadable Content) =

[[Image:gta-iv-lost-and-damned.jpg|right|300px]]

'''In addition to the previous weapons.'''

=== CZ 75 Automatic ===

The game's version of this weapon is a [[CZ 75|CZ 75 Automatic]], the machine pistol version of the CZ 75 pistol. It holds 17 rounds, and is reffered to as an "Automatic 9mm". It is introduced in the mission "Bad Cop Drop". It is very accurate, and has a very high firing rate, but it isn't that powerful. The game's Glock 22 even seems to do more damage than this pistol.

[[Image:Cz75fa.jpg|thumb|350px|none|CZ 75 Automatic 9x19mm with spare magazine]]
[[Image:ColtM1911 1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny holding a CZ 75 Automatic]]
[[Image:ColtM1911 2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny firing his CZ 75 Automatic]]
[[Image:GTAIVCZ75.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny aims his CZ 75 Automatic at an unknown target as Billy Grey watches.]]

=== Sawn-off double barreled shotgun ===
This sawed-off [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is called the "Sawed off Shotgun" in the game. It is the first weapon that you are equiped with in the game. It can be fired while riding on a Motorcycle, but can't be used in other types of vehicles. Reguardless, it is the only shotgun in the series so far that can be fired from a vehicle. Unlike the other shotguns in the game, this shotgun has an acurate ammo capacity, as it holds only two shells. On a bike, this weapon is very effective, as it can take down almost any target in no time. On foot, it has a very wide range, but a very slow firing rate due to it's small ammo capacity. A good weapon to have, but it can't compare to the game's Street Sweeper.

[[Image:SawedoffshotgunUntouchables.jpg|thumb|350px|none|A sawed off shotgun used in the film The Untouchables, supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]]
[[Image:SWDBSG1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny shooting with his sawn-off shotgun while riding.]]
[[Image:SWDBSG2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny holding his sawn-off shotgun while sliding.]]
[[Image:SWDBS3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny takes cover in an Angels of Death clubhouse with a sawn-off shotgun.]]
[[Image:gta_lost_damned_achievement.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny with a sawn-off shotgun.]]

=== SWD / Cobray Street Sweeper ===

The [[Armsel_Striker_and_variants#SWD.2FCobray_Street_Sweeper|SWD / Cobray Street Sweeper]] is called an "Assault Shotgun" in the game, but is also referred to as "Street Sweeper" by characters. This weapon is arguably the best new weapon introduced in the Lost and Damned. It holds 8 shells, and is fully automatic, with an extremly high firing rate. It can dispatch of ememies,and vehicles in no time, and aparently has the ability to take down helicopters as well. It is introduced in the mission "Heavy Toll", but is notably used during the mission "Shifting Weight", in which you ride on the back of a speeding bike and take out numerous cop cars, SWAT vans, and helicopters with infinite ammo for the shotgun.

[[Image:SWD-StreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SWD / Cobray Street Sweeper with 18-inch barrel; the location of the in-game version's foregrip suggests it is the full-size version with the barrel extension cut off.]]
[[Image:SWDBSG3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|The Assault Shotgun's icon; note the thicker winding key and front sight, features characteristic of the Street Sweeper and Striker-12, but not the Armsel Striker.]]
[[Image:L&DStriker.jpg|thumb|400px|none|The "Assault Shotgun" in-game.]]
[[Image:1340.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny destroys a police cruiser with his Assault Shotgun.]]

=== Heckler & Koch HK69A1 40mm Launcher ===

The [[Heckler & Koch HK69A1 40mm Launcher]] is called the "Grenade Launcher" in the game. It can be used to bounce grenades off walls, and corners in a similar fashion to the RPG. It is introduced in the mission "Action/Reaction". It is very effective, but sometimes overshoots your intended target. Though it fires one grenade at a time, up to 20 can be held in reserve.

[[Image:HK69A1.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Heckler & Koch HK69A1 40mm.]]
[[Image:GTAIV69.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch HK69A1 in-game icon.]]
[[Image:Grenadelauncher.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johnny with an HK69A1.]]

===Pipe Bombs===
Has basically the same attributes as grenades. Introduced in the mission "Hit the Pipe".

[[Image:up-pipe_bomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Johhny tosses a bomb.]]

= ''The Ballad of Gay Tony'' (Xbox 360 Exclusive Downloadable Content) =

[[Image:gta_ballad_of_gay_tony.jpg|right|300px]]

'''Coming Soon!'''

[[Category:Video Game]]
[[Category:Crime]]

User:Mcguinness

2009-08-16T03:56:39Z

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== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

== Pages I've helped with ==
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2009-08-16T03:56:02Z

Mcguinness: /* Pages I've helped with */

== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

== Pages I've helped with ==
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2009-08-16T03:55:26Z

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== About Me ==

I live in Australia and love the Call of Duty Series. I like war movies new and old.

== Pages I've helped with ==
[[Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare (Ds) ]]

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