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File:Mosin Scope.JPG

2015-09-21T15:30:16Z

Maxmali: Authentic scope on the sniper-version of a soviet Mosin Nagant M1891/30.

Authentic scope on the sniper-version of a soviet Mosin Nagant M1891/30.

(In The Line of Fire) - Composite Pistol

2015-03-15T15:50:11Z

Maxmali: /* Television */

[[Image:Comppist.JPG‎|thumb|right|300px|Prop double of actual pistol used in the film.]]
[[Image:ITLOFFiringPistol.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|Actual firing pistol used in the film after it had been deactivated.]]
In the 1993 film ''[[In The Line of Fire]]'', Booth ([[John Malkovich]]) is seen constructing this two shot, reloadable clandestine pistol. The weapon is used to great effect several times throughout the film. The weapon appears to use .38 Short Colt ammunition, or possibly a variation of .38 S&W with unbelted cartridge cases. While a version of this "Composite Pistol" was also seen used by [[Russell Crowe]] in the movie ''[[No Way Back (1995)]]'', the original blank-firing prop was deactivated by cutting it into three pieces after the filming of ''In The Line of Fire''.

Other prop weapons closely based off the general design and aesthetic of this weapon (but not this exact same weapon) have occasionally been seen in other productions as well. For the sake of convenience, those appearances will be listed here as well.

'''The "Composite Pistol" has been used in the following:'''

==Film==
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[In The Line of Fire]]'' || [[John Malkovich]] || Mitch Leary || || 1993
|-
| ''[[No Way Back (1995)|No Way Back]]'' || [[Kristopher Logan]] || "Mr. Contingency" || || 1995
|-
| ''[[No Way Back (1995)|No Way Back]]'' || [[Russell Crowe]] || FBI Special Agent Zack Grant || || 1995
|-
|}

==Television==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="175"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="125"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[The X-Files - Season 4]]'' || [[David Palffy]] || 'Dark Man' || "Tempus Fugit" (S4E17), "Max" (S4E18) || 1997
|-
| ''[[The X-Files - Season 4]]'' || Greg Michaels || Scott Garrett / 'Mustache Man' || "Tempus Fugit" (S4E17), "Max" (S4E18) || 1997
|-
| ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]'' || || 'Tourist'/Hitman || "Strip Maul" (S13E9) || 2012
|-

|}

 

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[[Category:Fictional Firearm]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Talk:(In The Line of Fire) - Composite Pistol

2015-03-15T15:40:28Z

Maxmali: /* Why? */

== Additional Images ==
[[File:Comppist.jpg|thumb|none|400px|3D model of Composite Pistol]]

== Why? ==

Why did it have to be destroyed after the film was made? - [[User: 2wingo]]

Because, by the way the gun was made, it was practically untrack-/unidentifyable.
So the damage of it reaching "wrong hands" would've been huge.

Also, on the other side, if someone would've used it and it'd have blown up due to wear and tear, the prop-company could've been sued for a lot of money.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 11:40, 15 March 2015 (EDT)

Talk:CSI: Crime Scene Investigation - Season 12

2015-03-14T01:38:04Z

Maxmali: /* Unknown Pistol */

For the record, I am planning to on doing this page but it should NOT be made until there are actually screenshots available for it. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 18:56, 15 June 2012 (CDT)

== Unknown Pistol ==
----
In "Malice In Wonderland" (S12E18), Emily Hartley ([[Cameron Richardson]]) used an unknown Pistol to hold Trace Lab Tech David Hodges ([[Wallace Langham]]) and his mother Olivia Hodges ([[Jaclyn Smith]]) at gunpoint while she and her husband Kyle ([[Pedro Pascal]]) were driving to the desert until Hodges got loose from his restraints and drugged her and took the gun and held Kyle at gunpoint. Later when Hodges and his mother were freed he gave the gun to a SWAT team member.

It looks to me like a SIG-Sauer P22X, one of the full-size versions, although I don't know which one, as the differences are very small.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 21:38, 13 March 2015 (EDT)

The Equalizer (2014)

2014-12-13T21:17:25Z

Maxmali: /* Springfield Armory XD */ Added detail.

{{NowShowing}}
[[File:Equal14.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Equalizer'' (2014)]]

'''''The Equalizer''''' is the 2014 feature film adaptation of the [[The Equalizer (1985)|1980's television series of the same name]]. The film stars [[Denzel Washington]] as Robert McCall, a former US covert operative living under an assumed identity in Boston who decides to take on the Russian mob when a young woman he met is found brutalized. The film was directed by [[Antoine Fuqua]], who previously collarborated with Washington on ''[[Training Day]]''.

{{Film Title|The Equalizer}}
__TOC__ 

==Glock 17==
A suppressed [[Glock 17]] is seen in the hands of a Russian mobster. Several Glocks are also seen in an arsenal that Robert McCall ([[Denzel Washington]]) keeps in a closet.
[[Image:Evolution.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Glock 17 with suppressor 9x19mm]]
[[File:Eq 301.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Springfield Armory XD==
A thug pulls a [[Springfield XD]] on McCall, who later takes it from him.
In the movie the pistol is wrongly identified as a Heckler & Koch.
[[Image:SpringfieldXD45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Springfield Armory XD - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Eq 305.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Springfield Armory XD in the thug's hand]]
[[File:Eq 306.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall holds the thug at gunpoint with the thug's own Springfield Armory XD]]

==Micro Uzi==
In one trailer, a thug wearing a safety vest can be seen pulling a [[Micro Uzi]] out of the waistband of his pants.

[[Image:MicroUziPistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Micro Uzi 9x19mm]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
Teddy ([[Marton Csokas]]) is seen with an [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] fitted with a railed handguard, RIS foregrip, uppresor, and M68 Aimpoint red dot sight.
[[File:MP5A3RIS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with Navy trigger group, railed handguard, RIS foregrip, and M68 Aimpoint red dot scope 9x19mm]]
[[File:Eq 303.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Closet Weapons Cache==
Much like the original series, McCall keeps several weapons in a hidden cache in his residence. Several handguns, including one with a suppressor can be seen on the back wall, and what appears to be a [[Serbu Super Shorty]] shotgun can be seen on the right side.
[[File:Eq 302.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

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[[Category:Thriller]]
[[Category:Antoine Fuqua]]

House of the Dead

2014-12-07T22:42:39Z

Maxmali: /* Taurus PT92AFS */ Added detail

[[Image:House of the dead ver2.jpg|thumb|right|300px|House of the Dead (2003)]]

{{Film Title|House of the Dead}}

__TOC__ 

=Real Firearms=
==Taurus PT92AFS==
A Stainless [[Taurus PT92|Taurus PT92AFS]] is used primarily by Harbor Police Officer Casper ([[Ellie Cornell]]) as her personal sidearm.
[[Image:TaurusPT92AFSwBlack.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Taurus PT92AFS (Stainless) with Slimline Black Factory Grips - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:HOTD-TaurusPT92.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Ellie Cornell]] as Casper, a harbor Patrol officer aims her stainless Taurus PT92AFS - 9mm]]
[[Image:HOTD-TaurusPT92Side.jpg|thumb|none|500px|When talking with the group of survivors, Casper ([[Ellie Cornell]]) holds her stainless Taurus PT92AFS - 9mm.
Note that, despite working for law enforcment backround and thus being trained in gun handling, she has her finger on the trigger.]]
[[Image:HOTD-TaurusPT92FireBridge.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Casper ([[Ellie Cornell]]) fires her Taurus PT92AFS at a rampaging zombie - 9mm]]
[[Image:HOTD-TaurusPT92SilverWide.jpg|thumb|none|500px|At the abandoned rave site, Casper ([[Ellie Cornell]]) shoots a recently undead Cynthia ([[Sonya Salomaa]]) with a Taurus PT92AFS-9mm]]

==IMI Desert Eagle==
Captain Kirk ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) uses a nickel or stainless steel [[Desert Eagle]] throughout the film.
[[Image:DesertEagleMarkIstainless.jpg|thumb|none|390px|A matte stainless Desert Eagle MK I - .357 Magnum.]]
[[Image:HOTD-DesertEagle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) as Captain Kirk wields his nickel/stainless steel Desert Eagle]]
[[Image:HOTD-DesertEagleFires.jpg|thumb|none|500px|([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) as Captain Kirk fires his nickel/stainless steel Desert Eagle]]

==Customized Jericho 941==
Captain Kirk ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) hands some heavily customized Jericho 941 pistols to Karma ([[Enuka Okuma]]). They are heavily engraved and have a barrel compensator attached.
[[Image:HOTD-TwinJerichos.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karma ([[Enuka Okuma]]) looks at the twin Custom Jericho 941 pistols handed to her - 9mm]]
[[Image:HOTD-JerichoCustomhandoffjpg.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Karma ([[Enuka Okuma]]) looks at a Custom Jericho 941 pistol, note the extra vents cut into the slide and frame and the added rail - 9mm]]
[[Image:HOTD-JerichoPCustomistol2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karma ([[Enuka Okuma]]) examines her new Custom Jericho 941 pistol which is not only engraved but gold plated - 9mm]]

==Astra A-70==
[[File:AstraA70.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Astra A-70 Stainless Pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:HOTD-SilverKahr9pocket.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alicia ([[Ona Grauer]]) wields an Astra A-70 pistol along with her shotgun. This pistol is seen wielded by Casper ([[Ellie Cornell]]) as well. ]]
[[Image:HOTD-SilverKahr9.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-Kahr9tone.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-Kahr9Shot22Tone.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-Twotone-pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==AP-9==
An [[Kimel AP-9|Kimel AP-9 Pistol]] with a scope is initially handed to Rudy ([[Jonathan Cherry]]) however, during moments in the zombie battle, it changes into an ISS MAC-10 Non-gun aka "Flashpaper" gun.
[[Image:AP9-Pistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:HOTD-SilverAP9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Kimel AP-9 pistol as it is taken out of the arms box.]]
[[Image:HOTD-SilverAP9 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Closeup of Rudys' hand as he feels the AP-9 for the first time.]]
[[Image:HOTD-AP9SilverFire.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rudy ([[Jonathan Cherry]]) fires a real full auto converted AP-9 Pistol during the zombie battle.]]
[[Image:HOTD-AP9Continuity.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rudy ([[Jonathan Cherry]]) firing a real full auto converted AP-9 Pistol with scope.]]

== Unidentified Nickel/Stainless Steel Revolver==
[[Image:HOTD-Silver357.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Jonathan Cherry]] as Rudy fires his nickel/SS revolver.]]
[[Image:HOTD-NickelRevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Jonathan Cherry]] as Rudy checks his nickel/SS revolver.]]

==Modified Beretta 93R==
[[Image:HOTD-BerettaTurntable.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-BerettaFiresBulletPath.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-BerettaAutogun.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-BerettaAutoFlash.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-BerettaAutoFire2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Customized Beretta 92FS==
This is the same [[Beretta 92F]] used akimbo style by Gary Cole in I-Spy starring Eddie Murphy and Owen Wilson. NOTE: The laser module under the frame and the compensator are the same!

[[Image:HOTD-CustomBerettaRacks.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-CustomBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-BerettaWExtMag.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Colt M4==
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4A1 with 6 position collapsible stock - 5.56x45mm. Note slight difference in shape of stock compared to older model M4 (above).]]
[[Image:HOTD-M4.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-M4 Casper.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-M4FiresLake.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-M4FireballLake.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-M4CasperWoodsFLash.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-M4CasperHold.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==M16A1==
[[Image:HOTD-KirksM16.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-KirksRoundsUnderWater.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Short barreled Nickel plated Ithaca 37==
Karma ([[Enuka Okuma]]) also uses a short barreled nickel plated [[Ithaca 37]] Shotgun - 12 gauge.
[[Image:HOTD-ShortNickelShotgun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Nickel Plated barrel of the Ithaca with the MP5K style foregrip is seen being pulled from the arms crate. ]]
[[Image:HOTD-ShortShotgunRacks.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karma ([[Enuka Okuma]]) does a weapons check with her Nickel Ithaca 37 with MP5K foregrip - 12 gauge.]]

==Mossberg 500A Mariner Shotgun==
[[Image:Mossberg500AMarinerStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500A Mariner (18.5" barrel) with the proprietary Marinecote™ Finish and Synthetic Stock - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:HOTD-Mossber500SS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|During the handout of the weapons, Casper ([[Ellie Cornell]]) offers Alicia ([[Ona Grauer]]) the nickel plated Mossberg 500A Mariner shotgun - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:HOTD-Mossberg500Taken.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alicia ([[Ona Grauer]]) reacts to being handed a Mossberg 500A Mariner Shotgun - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:HOTD-Mossberg500SilverOna.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In another continuity break, Alicia ([[Ona Grauer]]) is suddenly firing a nickel plated Mossberg 500A Mariner Shotgun with an extended magazine tube - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:HOTD-ShotgunContinuityBreak.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-IthacaContinuity.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Cobray Street Sweeper==
Captain Kirk ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) pulls out an [[Armsel Striker and variants|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper]] from his arms crate and uses it during the battle in front of the house.
[[Image:CobrayStreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper with short barrel and top folding stock - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:HOTD-Streetsweeper.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Captain Kirk ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) loads his Street Sweeper in front of Liberty ([[Kira Clavell]]) ]]
[[Image:HOTD-StreetSweeperKirk.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Captain Kirk ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) patrols with his Street Sweeper alongside Casper ([[Ellie Cornell]]). ]]
[[Image:HOTD-StreetsweeperTurntable.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Captain Kirk ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) fires his Street Sweeper on the 'turntable' shot that Director Uwe Bolls uses multiple times]]

=ISS Non gun "flashpaper" firearms=
==Colt Carbine Non-Gun==
[[Image:HOTD-ColtCarbineNonGun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|During the battle, Casper's Colt M4 turns into an ISS Non-Gun variant.]]

==Walther PPK Non-Gun==
[[Image:HOTD-FlashpaperPPKS.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-LibertyFlashpaperPPK.jpg|thumb|none|500px| Liberty ([[Kira Clavell]]) running with the Walther PPK Non gun during the zombie battle.]]
[[Image:HOTD-LibertyFires.jpg|thumb|none|500px| Liberty ([[Kira Clavell]]) firing the Walther PPK Non gun during the zombie battle. Note the odd flash from the 'flashpaper' charges.]]
[[Image:HOTD-SilverNongunContinuity.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Generic .357 Revolver Non-Gun==
[[Image:HOTD-FlashpaperSilverRevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Short barreled Ithaca 37 Nickel plated shotgun==
[[Image:HOTD-ShotgunContinuity.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In a continuity break in a film filled with continuity breaks, Karma ([[Enuka Okuma]]) now holds a Non-Gun nickel Ithaca 37 with a standard black synthetic foregrip.]]
[[Image:HOTD-FlashShotgunFake.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The flashpaper 'flash' of the Shotgun "Non-gun"]]

==Ingram MAC-10 - two tone==
[[Image:HOTD-MAC10Nongun2tone 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-MAC10FlashpaperFire.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-MAC10FakeSilver.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-MAC-10NonGun.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Desert Eagle Non-Gun==
[[Image:HOTD-TwinGoldFlashpaperDE.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-TwinFakeFlashpaperDE.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-FlashpaperDETwin.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Beretta Inox 92FS Non-Gun==
[[Image:Ng pistol beretta92 SN.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Beretta Inox Non Gun]]
[[Image:HOTD-FlashpaperGunsduo.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

=Other weapons=
==Mk II Hand Grenade==
[[Image:HOTD-MKII-out-of-box.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:HOTD-MKII GregDies.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Sword==
Used by the Undead Priest to attack Alicia ([[Ona Grauer]])
[[Image:HOTD-OnaGrauer DodgesSword.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Explosives==
C4 blocks and sticks of dynamite are also in Kirks' chest of weapons, all loosely stored.
[[Image:HOTD-ArmsBox.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

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[[Category:Uwe Boll]]

The Bourne Supremacy

2014-11-17T16:12:15Z

Maxmali: /* Heckler & Koch SL8-4 */

{{Infobox Movie
|name = The Bourne Supremacy
|picture = Bourne supremacy 04.jpg
|caption = ''DVD Cover''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States [[Image:GER.jpg|25px]] Germany
|director = [[Paul Greengrass]]
|date= 2004
|language = English Russian German Italian
|studio=Universal Pictures Motion Picture THETA Produktionsgesellschaft
|distributor=Universal Pictures
|character1=Jason Bourne
|actor1=[[Matt Damon]]
|character2=Marie
|actor2=[[Franka Potente]]
|character3=Conklin
|actor3=[[Chris Cooper]]
|character4=Kirill
|actor4=[[Karl Urban]]
|character5=Pamela Landy
|actor5=[[Joan Allen]]
|character6=Jarda
|actor6=[[Marton Csokas]]
|character7=John Nevins
|actor7=[[Tim Griffin]]
|character8=Nicolette
|actor8=[[Julia Stiles]]
|character9=
|actor9=
|character10=
|actor10=
}}

'''''The Bourne Supremacy''''' is the 2004 sequel to 2002's ''[[The Bourne Identity]]''. [[Matt Damon]] returns as the covert operative known as Jason Bourne, who comes out of hiding to expose who is responsible for a series of assassinations that were done in his name. The sequel was directed by Paul Greengrass, who also returned for the 2007 sequel ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''. The film's plot bears little resemblance to the Robert Ludlum novel of the same name.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''The Bourne Supremacy'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
== Beretta 92SB==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) has a [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92SB]] at the beginning of the movie when he and Marie ([[Franka Potente]]) are escaping from Kirill in Goa, India. He is shown pulling one out of the glovebox of their SUV. Presumably, it is lost during the crash.
[[Image:BerettaM92SB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92SB - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne grabs a Beretta from his glove compartment and loads a magazine.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne performs a brass check on his Beretta while escaping from Kirill.]]

==Beretta 92FS==
After Marie is killed in India, Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) packs his [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] up with his belongings when clearing out of their former home. Jarda ([[Marton Csokas]]), another ex-Treadstone agent, also carries a Beretta.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne picks his Beretta up from the bed to pack.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda, who has a Beretta.]]

==Glock 17==
Some of the German policemen at the Hotel Brecker carry [[Glock 17]]s.
Note that this is an error, as the German SEK (German SWAT) carries Walther-Pistols in real life.
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 (2nd generation) - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-glock1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German policeman aims his Glock 17 at the hotel room door.]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-glock1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German policeman aims his Glock 17 at the hotel room door.]]

==Makarov PM==
The Russian policemen who detain Kirill are carrying [[Makarov PM]] pistols.
[[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Makarov PM - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:Bournesup-makarov1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Russian policeman aims his Makarov at Kirill.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-makarov2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the Russian policemen reads Kirill's credentials while holding his Makarov.]]

==SIG-Sauer P225==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) uses a [[SIG-Sauer P225]] throughout the movie after arriving in Naples, stolen from U.S. Consulate agent John Nevins ([[Tim Griffin]]). It is most notably seen when he confronts Treadstone asset Jarda in his home, and when Bourne uses it to shoot through the door of his stolen taxi at Kirill's stolen Mercedes in Moscow and some how shoots 12 rounds instead of the P225's 8. Bourne also used a P225 in his flashback to the Neski double-murder (his first assignment).
[[Image:SIG-Sauer-P225.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P225 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne points his P225 at Nevins after disarming him of it.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda, who has a Beretta.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225c.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225d.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne sticks his P225 to Nicky Parsons' ([[Julia Stiles]]) head.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225e.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne uses a P225 in his flashback to killing Neski.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225f.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Kirill.]]

==Walther P99==
The FSB assassin Kirill ([[Karl Urban]]) uses a 1st generation Walther P99 with a QPQ finished slide during his pursuit of Jason Bourne. It is most notably seen in his hands when he wounds Bourne from an overhead bridge while in Moscow, and later during the film's final car chase when fired from Kirill's Mercedes towards Bourne's taxi. There is also a publicity photo of Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) firing a standard black first-gen P99, though no scene in the movie depicts this. He does, however, use one to threaten Ward Abbott in his hotel room.
[[Image:WaltherP99 twotoneA.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Walther P99 with silver slide - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-wp99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill unloads his P99 in the hotel room.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wp99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill aims his P99 at Bourne.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wp99b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill raises his arms, P99 in hand, explaining to the police that he is with the FSB.]]
[[Image:Brnsup2-p99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne puts his P99 to the back of Abbott's head.]]
[[Image:JB P99.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The publicity photo of Bourne firing a P99 (not seen in film).]]

== Walther PP ==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) gives CIA deputy director Ward Abbott ([[Brian Cox]]) a [[Walther PP Pistol Series|Walther PP]] to kill himself with.
[[Image:Walther_PP.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Walther PP - 7.65x17mm (.32 ACP)]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne slams the Walther down next to Abbott.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Abbott looks at the PP, considering his options.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Abbott points the gun at Landy before turning it on himself.]]

==Glock 19==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries what appears to be a compact Glock 9mm. The scene is very brief and quick so the screenshots are rather blurry but upon closer look the slide definately puts it in the Glock family not the XD.
[[Image:BourneSPistol1.JPG|thumb|600px|none|One of the 3 agents with what appears to be the compact Glock 19.]]
[[Image:BourneSPistol2.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Here you can see the angle of the grip indicates a Glock.]]

=Shotguns=
==Unknown shotgun==
One of the German SEK (Spezialeinsatzkommando) officers that are sent to arrest Bourne is armed with a pistol gripped fitted with a door breaching muzzle brake and red dot sight.
In real life the German Police uses Benelli shotguns, although without any of the attachments, so this is another error regarding the firearms.
[[Image:BourneS shotgun 2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|An SEK officer holds his shotgun in the lobby of the Brecker Hotel.]]

=Machine Pistols and Submachine guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]. MP5A3s are also carried by the Berlin SWAT officers.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-hkmp5a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's alarm carries an MP5A3.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD3==
Some German SWAT officers at the Hotel Brecker can be seen with [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3]] submachine guns.
[[Image:H&KMP5SD6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD6 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BourneS mp5 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Micro Uzi==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries a [[Uzi|Micro Uzi]] with a folding stock.
[[Image:MicroUziPistolStock.jpg‎|thumb|none|275px|Micro Uzi with Folding Stock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-uzi1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A CIA response team member with a Micro Uzi on the way to Jarda's.]]

=Rifles=
==Heckler & Koch SL8-4==
Several of the German SEK (Spezialeinsatzkommando) team officers who attempt to arrest Bourne at the hotel are armed with what supperficially appear to be [[Heckler & Koch G36]] rifles. However, a close inspection of the rifles reveals that they are actually the civilian [[Heckler & Koch SL8-4]] version of the rifle fitted with a 30 round magazine and a G36E sight/carry handle.
Neither rifle is used by the real life SEK (german SWAT), whose officers are restricted to different versions of the MP5.
[[Image:HK SL8-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch SL8-4 - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:G36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G36E - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-hkg36a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs through the hotel.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-hkg36.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs with his G36/SL8 rifle.]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-hkg36b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs through the hotel. In this screenshot, the SL8 buttstock is clearly seen.]]

==AKS-74==
A guard is seen with an [[AKS-74]] after the police call for FSB backup in the Moscow chase scene.
[[Image:AKS-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BourneS ak-74 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard with an AKS-74 is seen at right. Note the AK-74 style muzzle brake and side-fold stock]]

=Sniper Rifles=
==Sauer Model 202 Takedown Rifle==
Kirill ([[Karl Urban]]) uses a [[Sauer Model 202|Sauer Model 202 Takedown Rifle]] in the beginning of the movie to shoot and kill Marie.
[[Image:Sauer202.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sauer Model 202 - .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:Kirill-rifle.PNG|thumb|600px|none|Kirill aiming his rifle right before shooting Marie.]]

==Keppeler & Fritz KS II Mockup Prop==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) uses a bolt-action, bullpup sniper rifle when talking to Pam Landy ([[Joan Allen]]) at the CIA headquarters in Berlin. The scope is a Zeiss Victory Diavari, but the rifle itself appears to be custom-built prop specially for the movie by a gunsmith to resemble the Keppler & Fritz KS II in general appearance. The poster image of Bourne with a scoped sniper rifle appears to show him holding this weapon, however this rifle is actually an unmodified [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]].

''NOTE: A number of anonymous users have edited this page to indicate that the rifle is a [[Walther WA 2000]]. The rifle in question is not a WA2000; it is a bolt-action design (whereas the WA2000 is a semi-automatic), and the receiver is clearly the wrong shape. It is also not a [[Keppeler & Fritz KS II Precision]] as previously suggested (see [[Talk:Bourne_Supremacy,_The#Sniper_Rifle_Definitely_NOT_a_KS-II|discussion topic]]). ''

[[Image:Bournesup-rifle1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne takes aim at the CIA headquarters.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-rifle2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne's finger on the trigger (notice how the grip and the trigger guard are different from the Walther WA 2000).]]
[[Image:Bournesup-rifle3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne looks through the scope while talking to Landy.]]
[[File:BS-RoofSniperMockeup.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Production still from the same angle, which shows a better shot of the prop rifle.]]

{{Bourne Series}}

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:Espionage]]
[[Category:German Produced/Filmed]]
[[Category:Paul Greengrass]]

The Bourne Supremacy

2014-11-17T16:10:37Z

Maxmali: /* Unknown shotgun */

{{Infobox Movie
|name = The Bourne Supremacy
|picture = Bourne supremacy 04.jpg
|caption = ''DVD Cover''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States [[Image:GER.jpg|25px]] Germany
|director = [[Paul Greengrass]]
|date= 2004
|language = English Russian German Italian
|studio=Universal Pictures Motion Picture THETA Produktionsgesellschaft
|distributor=Universal Pictures
|character1=Jason Bourne
|actor1=[[Matt Damon]]
|character2=Marie
|actor2=[[Franka Potente]]
|character3=Conklin
|actor3=[[Chris Cooper]]
|character4=Kirill
|actor4=[[Karl Urban]]
|character5=Pamela Landy
|actor5=[[Joan Allen]]
|character6=Jarda
|actor6=[[Marton Csokas]]
|character7=John Nevins
|actor7=[[Tim Griffin]]
|character8=Nicolette
|actor8=[[Julia Stiles]]
|character9=
|actor9=
|character10=
|actor10=
}}

'''''The Bourne Supremacy''''' is the 2004 sequel to 2002's ''[[The Bourne Identity]]''. [[Matt Damon]] returns as the covert operative known as Jason Bourne, who comes out of hiding to expose who is responsible for a series of assassinations that were done in his name. The sequel was directed by Paul Greengrass, who also returned for the 2007 sequel ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''. The film's plot bears little resemblance to the Robert Ludlum novel of the same name.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''The Bourne Supremacy'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
== Beretta 92SB==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) has a [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92SB]] at the beginning of the movie when he and Marie ([[Franka Potente]]) are escaping from Kirill in Goa, India. He is shown pulling one out of the glovebox of their SUV. Presumably, it is lost during the crash.
[[Image:BerettaM92SB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92SB - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne grabs a Beretta from his glove compartment and loads a magazine.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne performs a brass check on his Beretta while escaping from Kirill.]]

==Beretta 92FS==
After Marie is killed in India, Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) packs his [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] up with his belongings when clearing out of their former home. Jarda ([[Marton Csokas]]), another ex-Treadstone agent, also carries a Beretta.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne picks his Beretta up from the bed to pack.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda, who has a Beretta.]]

==Glock 17==
Some of the German policemen at the Hotel Brecker carry [[Glock 17]]s.
Note that this is an error, as the German SEK (German SWAT) carries Walther-Pistols in real life.
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 (2nd generation) - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-glock1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German policeman aims his Glock 17 at the hotel room door.]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-glock1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German policeman aims his Glock 17 at the hotel room door.]]

==Makarov PM==
The Russian policemen who detain Kirill are carrying [[Makarov PM]] pistols.
[[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Makarov PM - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:Bournesup-makarov1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Russian policeman aims his Makarov at Kirill.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-makarov2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the Russian policemen reads Kirill's credentials while holding his Makarov.]]

==SIG-Sauer P225==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) uses a [[SIG-Sauer P225]] throughout the movie after arriving in Naples, stolen from U.S. Consulate agent John Nevins ([[Tim Griffin]]). It is most notably seen when he confronts Treadstone asset Jarda in his home, and when Bourne uses it to shoot through the door of his stolen taxi at Kirill's stolen Mercedes in Moscow and some how shoots 12 rounds instead of the P225's 8. Bourne also used a P225 in his flashback to the Neski double-murder (his first assignment).
[[Image:SIG-Sauer-P225.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P225 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne points his P225 at Nevins after disarming him of it.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda, who has a Beretta.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225c.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225d.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne sticks his P225 to Nicky Parsons' ([[Julia Stiles]]) head.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225e.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne uses a P225 in his flashback to killing Neski.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225f.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Kirill.]]

==Walther P99==
The FSB assassin Kirill ([[Karl Urban]]) uses a 1st generation Walther P99 with a QPQ finished slide during his pursuit of Jason Bourne. It is most notably seen in his hands when he wounds Bourne from an overhead bridge while in Moscow, and later during the film's final car chase when fired from Kirill's Mercedes towards Bourne's taxi. There is also a publicity photo of Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) firing a standard black first-gen P99, though no scene in the movie depicts this. He does, however, use one to threaten Ward Abbott in his hotel room.
[[Image:WaltherP99 twotoneA.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Walther P99 with silver slide - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-wp99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill unloads his P99 in the hotel room.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wp99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill aims his P99 at Bourne.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wp99b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill raises his arms, P99 in hand, explaining to the police that he is with the FSB.]]
[[Image:Brnsup2-p99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne puts his P99 to the back of Abbott's head.]]
[[Image:JB P99.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The publicity photo of Bourne firing a P99 (not seen in film).]]

== Walther PP ==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) gives CIA deputy director Ward Abbott ([[Brian Cox]]) a [[Walther PP Pistol Series|Walther PP]] to kill himself with.
[[Image:Walther_PP.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Walther PP - 7.65x17mm (.32 ACP)]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne slams the Walther down next to Abbott.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Abbott looks at the PP, considering his options.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Abbott points the gun at Landy before turning it on himself.]]

==Glock 19==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries what appears to be a compact Glock 9mm. The scene is very brief and quick so the screenshots are rather blurry but upon closer look the slide definately puts it in the Glock family not the XD.
[[Image:BourneSPistol1.JPG|thumb|600px|none|One of the 3 agents with what appears to be the compact Glock 19.]]
[[Image:BourneSPistol2.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Here you can see the angle of the grip indicates a Glock.]]

=Shotguns=
==Unknown shotgun==
One of the German SEK (Spezialeinsatzkommando) officers that are sent to arrest Bourne is armed with a pistol gripped fitted with a door breaching muzzle brake and red dot sight.
In real life the German Police uses Benelli shotguns, although without any of the attachments, so this is another error regarding the firearms.
[[Image:BourneS shotgun 2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|An SEK officer holds his shotgun in the lobby of the Brecker Hotel.]]

=Machine Pistols and Submachine guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]. MP5A3s are also carried by the Berlin SWAT officers.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-hkmp5a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's alarm carries an MP5A3.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD3==
Some German SWAT officers at the Hotel Brecker can be seen with [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3]] submachine guns.
[[Image:H&KMP5SD6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD6 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BourneS mp5 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Micro Uzi==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries a [[Uzi|Micro Uzi]] with a folding stock.
[[Image:MicroUziPistolStock.jpg‎|thumb|none|275px|Micro Uzi with Folding Stock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-uzi1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A CIA response team member with a Micro Uzi on the way to Jarda's.]]

=Rifles=
==Heckler & Koch SL8-4==
Several of the German SEK (Spezialeinsatzkommando) team officers who attempt to arrest Bourne at the hotel are armed with what supperficially appear to be [[Heckler & Koch G36]] rifles. However, a close inspection of the rifles reveals that they are actually the civilian [[Heckler & Koch SL8-4]] version of the rifle fitted with a 30 round magazine and a G36E sight/carry handle.
[[Image:HK SL8-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch SL8-4 - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:G36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G36E - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-hkg36a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs through the hotel.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-hkg36.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs with his G36/SL8 rifle.]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-hkg36b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs through the hotel. In this screenshot, the SL8 buttstock is clearly seen.]]

==AKS-74==
A guard is seen with an [[AKS-74]] after the police call for FSB backup in the Moscow chase scene.
[[Image:AKS-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BourneS ak-74 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard with an AKS-74 is seen at right. Note the AK-74 style muzzle brake and side-fold stock]]

=Sniper Rifles=
==Sauer Model 202 Takedown Rifle==
Kirill ([[Karl Urban]]) uses a [[Sauer Model 202|Sauer Model 202 Takedown Rifle]] in the beginning of the movie to shoot and kill Marie.
[[Image:Sauer202.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sauer Model 202 - .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:Kirill-rifle.PNG|thumb|600px|none|Kirill aiming his rifle right before shooting Marie.]]

==Keppeler & Fritz KS II Mockup Prop==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) uses a bolt-action, bullpup sniper rifle when talking to Pam Landy ([[Joan Allen]]) at the CIA headquarters in Berlin. The scope is a Zeiss Victory Diavari, but the rifle itself appears to be custom-built prop specially for the movie by a gunsmith to resemble the Keppler & Fritz KS II in general appearance. The poster image of Bourne with a scoped sniper rifle appears to show him holding this weapon, however this rifle is actually an unmodified [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]].

''NOTE: A number of anonymous users have edited this page to indicate that the rifle is a [[Walther WA 2000]]. The rifle in question is not a WA2000; it is a bolt-action design (whereas the WA2000 is a semi-automatic), and the receiver is clearly the wrong shape. It is also not a [[Keppeler & Fritz KS II Precision]] as previously suggested (see [[Talk:Bourne_Supremacy,_The#Sniper_Rifle_Definitely_NOT_a_KS-II|discussion topic]]). ''

[[Image:Bournesup-rifle1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne takes aim at the CIA headquarters.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-rifle2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne's finger on the trigger (notice how the grip and the trigger guard are different from the Walther WA 2000).]]
[[Image:Bournesup-rifle3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne looks through the scope while talking to Landy.]]
[[File:BS-RoofSniperMockeup.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Production still from the same angle, which shows a better shot of the prop rifle.]]

{{Bourne Series}}

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:Espionage]]
[[Category:German Produced/Filmed]]
[[Category:Paul Greengrass]]

The Bourne Supremacy

2014-11-17T16:07:09Z

Maxmali: /* Glock 17 */

{{Infobox Movie
|name = The Bourne Supremacy
|picture = Bourne supremacy 04.jpg
|caption = ''DVD Cover''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States [[Image:GER.jpg|25px]] Germany
|director = [[Paul Greengrass]]
|date= 2004
|language = English Russian German Italian
|studio=Universal Pictures Motion Picture THETA Produktionsgesellschaft
|distributor=Universal Pictures
|character1=Jason Bourne
|actor1=[[Matt Damon]]
|character2=Marie
|actor2=[[Franka Potente]]
|character3=Conklin
|actor3=[[Chris Cooper]]
|character4=Kirill
|actor4=[[Karl Urban]]
|character5=Pamela Landy
|actor5=[[Joan Allen]]
|character6=Jarda
|actor6=[[Marton Csokas]]
|character7=John Nevins
|actor7=[[Tim Griffin]]
|character8=Nicolette
|actor8=[[Julia Stiles]]
|character9=
|actor9=
|character10=
|actor10=
}}

'''''The Bourne Supremacy''''' is the 2004 sequel to 2002's ''[[The Bourne Identity]]''. [[Matt Damon]] returns as the covert operative known as Jason Bourne, who comes out of hiding to expose who is responsible for a series of assassinations that were done in his name. The sequel was directed by Paul Greengrass, who also returned for the 2007 sequel ''[[The Bourne Ultimatum]]''. The film's plot bears little resemblance to the Robert Ludlum novel of the same name.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''The Bourne Supremacy'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
== Beretta 92SB==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) has a [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92SB]] at the beginning of the movie when he and Marie ([[Franka Potente]]) are escaping from Kirill in Goa, India. He is shown pulling one out of the glovebox of their SUV. Presumably, it is lost during the crash.
[[Image:BerettaM92SB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92SB - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne grabs a Beretta from his glove compartment and loads a magazine.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne performs a brass check on his Beretta while escaping from Kirill.]]

==Beretta 92FS==
After Marie is killed in India, Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) packs his [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] up with his belongings when clearing out of their former home. Jarda ([[Marton Csokas]]), another ex-Treadstone agent, also carries a Beretta.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-beretta3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne picks his Beretta up from the bed to pack.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda, who has a Beretta.]]

==Glock 17==
Some of the German policemen at the Hotel Brecker carry [[Glock 17]]s.
Note that this is an error, as the German SEK (German SWAT) carries Walther-Pistols in real life.
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 (2nd generation) - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-glock1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German policeman aims his Glock 17 at the hotel room door.]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-glock1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German policeman aims his Glock 17 at the hotel room door.]]

==Makarov PM==
The Russian policemen who detain Kirill are carrying [[Makarov PM]] pistols.
[[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Makarov PM - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:Bournesup-makarov1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Russian policeman aims his Makarov at Kirill.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-makarov2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the Russian policemen reads Kirill's credentials while holding his Makarov.]]

==SIG-Sauer P225==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) uses a [[SIG-Sauer P225]] throughout the movie after arriving in Naples, stolen from U.S. Consulate agent John Nevins ([[Tim Griffin]]). It is most notably seen when he confronts Treadstone asset Jarda in his home, and when Bourne uses it to shoot through the door of his stolen taxi at Kirill's stolen Mercedes in Moscow and some how shoots 12 rounds instead of the P225's 8. Bourne also used a P225 in his flashback to the Neski double-murder (his first assignment).
[[Image:SIG-Sauer-P225.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P225 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne points his P225 at Nevins after disarming him of it.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda, who has a Beretta.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225c.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Jarda.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225d.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne sticks his P225 to Nicky Parsons' ([[Julia Stiles]]) head.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225e.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne uses a P225 in his flashback to killing Neski.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-sigp225f.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne aims his P225 at Kirill.]]

==Walther P99==
The FSB assassin Kirill ([[Karl Urban]]) uses a 1st generation Walther P99 with a QPQ finished slide during his pursuit of Jason Bourne. It is most notably seen in his hands when he wounds Bourne from an overhead bridge while in Moscow, and later during the film's final car chase when fired from Kirill's Mercedes towards Bourne's taxi. There is also a publicity photo of Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) firing a standard black first-gen P99, though no scene in the movie depicts this. He does, however, use one to threaten Ward Abbott in his hotel room.
[[Image:WaltherP99 twotoneA.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Walther P99 with silver slide - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-wp99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill unloads his P99 in the hotel room.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wp99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill aims his P99 at Bourne.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wp99b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kirill raises his arms, P99 in hand, explaining to the police that he is with the FSB.]]
[[Image:Brnsup2-p99a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne puts his P99 to the back of Abbott's head.]]
[[Image:JB P99.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The publicity photo of Bourne firing a P99 (not seen in film).]]

== Walther PP ==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) gives CIA deputy director Ward Abbott ([[Brian Cox]]) a [[Walther PP Pistol Series|Walther PP]] to kill himself with.
[[Image:Walther_PP.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Walther PP - 7.65x17mm (.32 ACP)]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne slams the Walther down next to Abbott.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Abbott looks at the PP, considering his options.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-wpp3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Abbott points the gun at Landy before turning it on himself.]]

==Glock 19==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries what appears to be a compact Glock 9mm. The scene is very brief and quick so the screenshots are rather blurry but upon closer look the slide definately puts it in the Glock family not the XD.
[[Image:BourneSPistol1.JPG|thumb|600px|none|One of the 3 agents with what appears to be the compact Glock 19.]]
[[Image:BourneSPistol2.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Here you can see the angle of the grip indicates a Glock.]]

=Shotguns=
==Unknown shotgun==
One of the German SEK (Spezialeinsatzkommando) officers that are sent to arrest Bourne is armed with a pistol gripped fitted with a door breaching muzzle brake and red dot sight.
[[Image:BourneS shotgun 2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|An SEK officer holds his shotgun in the lobby of the Brecker Hotel.]]

=Machine Pistols and Submachine guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]. MP5A3s are also carried by the Berlin SWAT officers.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesup-hkmp5a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's alarm carries an MP5A3.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD3==
Some German SWAT officers at the Hotel Brecker can be seen with [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3]] submachine guns.
[[Image:H&KMP5SD6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD6 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BourneS mp5 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Micro Uzi==
One of the CIA team responding to Jarda's home alarm carries a [[Uzi|Micro Uzi]] with a folding stock.
[[Image:MicroUziPistolStock.jpg‎|thumb|none|275px|Micro Uzi with Folding Stock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-uzi1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A CIA response team member with a Micro Uzi on the way to Jarda's.]]

=Rifles=
==Heckler & Koch SL8-4==
Several of the German SEK (Spezialeinsatzkommando) team officers who attempt to arrest Bourne at the hotel are armed with what supperficially appear to be [[Heckler & Koch G36]] rifles. However, a close inspection of the rifles reveals that they are actually the civilian [[Heckler & Koch SL8-4]] version of the rifle fitted with a 30 round magazine and a G36E sight/carry handle.
[[Image:HK SL8-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch SL8-4 - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:G36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G36E - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-hkg36a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs through the hotel.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-hkg36.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs with his G36/SL8 rifle.]]
[[Image:Bournesupr-hkg36b.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A German SWAT officer runs through the hotel. In this screenshot, the SL8 buttstock is clearly seen.]]

==AKS-74==
A guard is seen with an [[AKS-74]] after the police call for FSB backup in the Moscow chase scene.
[[Image:AKS-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BourneS ak-74 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard with an AKS-74 is seen at right. Note the AK-74 style muzzle brake and side-fold stock]]

=Sniper Rifles=
==Sauer Model 202 Takedown Rifle==
Kirill ([[Karl Urban]]) uses a [[Sauer Model 202|Sauer Model 202 Takedown Rifle]] in the beginning of the movie to shoot and kill Marie.
[[Image:Sauer202.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sauer Model 202 - .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:Kirill-rifle.PNG|thumb|600px|none|Kirill aiming his rifle right before shooting Marie.]]

==Keppeler & Fritz KS II Mockup Prop==
Jason Bourne ([[Matt Damon]]) uses a bolt-action, bullpup sniper rifle when talking to Pam Landy ([[Joan Allen]]) at the CIA headquarters in Berlin. The scope is a Zeiss Victory Diavari, but the rifle itself appears to be custom-built prop specially for the movie by a gunsmith to resemble the Keppler & Fritz KS II in general appearance. The poster image of Bourne with a scoped sniper rifle appears to show him holding this weapon, however this rifle is actually an unmodified [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]].

''NOTE: A number of anonymous users have edited this page to indicate that the rifle is a [[Walther WA 2000]]. The rifle in question is not a WA2000; it is a bolt-action design (whereas the WA2000 is a semi-automatic), and the receiver is clearly the wrong shape. It is also not a [[Keppeler & Fritz KS II Precision]] as previously suggested (see [[Talk:Bourne_Supremacy,_The#Sniper_Rifle_Definitely_NOT_a_KS-II|discussion topic]]). ''

[[Image:Bournesup-rifle1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne takes aim at the CIA headquarters.]]
[[Image:Bournesup-rifle2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne's finger on the trigger (notice how the grip and the trigger guard are different from the Walther WA 2000).]]
[[Image:Bournesup-rifle3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Bourne looks through the scope while talking to Landy.]]
[[File:BS-RoofSniperMockeup.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Production still from the same angle, which shows a better shot of the prop rifle.]]

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Talk:Heckler & Koch AG grenade launcher series

2014-11-06T15:38:00Z

Maxmali: Answered question

From what I can tell from looking around, if it doesn't have a folding front grip it's not an M320, it's either an ''XM''320 (the prototypes don't look to have had it) or an AG36. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 12:31, 13 March 2011 (MSK)
:AG-C and AG-NL variants also don't have the vert grip. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:39, 28 December 2011 (CST)
::AG-C can have the vert grip, but if it does it's mounted to a front rail rather than directly to the launcher. Newer AG36 also has it, mounted directly to the launcher (Wikipedia has a picture of a Latvian soldier with one like this on a G36) but the AG36 is attached to a special handguard so that's the giveaway there. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:59, 28 December 2011 (CST)

== Battlefield 3? ==

The M320 is in Battlefield 3. Why isn't it on this page? [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] 9:07, 1 February 2012 (PST)

== PEQ box vs radial sight on a carbine ==
Does the radial sight prevent mounting of PEQs on the top rail of an M4's handguard or is it offset enough to fit both? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 09:12, 26 October 2013 (EDT)
::It wwas developed for the US-Military, and the first point it had to fullfil was full compatibility with AR15-pattern rifles.
Also, on the HK-Website, it is shown being attached to an M4.
So there must be a way to do that without too much fiddling about.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 10:38, 6 November 2014 (EST)

== HK169 ==
How on earth can this be described as an "updated version" of the HK69? They're two totally different designs. You wouldn't describe the M32 as an "updated version" of the M79, would you? The M16 as an "updated version" of the M14? How about the M1 Abrams as an "updated version" of the M60 Patton? Or IMFDb as an "updated version" of Wikipedia? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:35, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
:The placement is odd since we DO have a page for the HK69. I'm going to move it there. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 03:06, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
::From H&K webpage of the HK169: "The HK169 was developed by Heckler & Koch as a state of the art '''successor of the well-known HK69''' to meet all the requirements for modern warfare or law enforcement applications." Also, I put it here because it is basically a GLM with a folding stock instead of the collapsing one. It is closer to the GLM than the HK69. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] ([[User talk:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|talk]]) 07:13, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
:::"Successor of" and "updated version of" are different. Either way, I've moved it to the HK69 page. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:03, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
::::No, I think it should stay on this page since it ''is'' just a GLM in a dedicated standalone configuration. I only found it odd that it was referred to as an "updated" HK69 because the two systems have no mechanical relation whatsoever. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:41, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::The HK169 should definitely not be on the HK69, it is a successor in name only. Aside from a similar name and the round it fires, it bears absolutely not relation whatsoever to the original HK69, it is simply a variant of the AG-C fitted into a stock, so I think it should go on [[Heckler & Koch AG36|that page]]. On the topic, does anybody else think these two pages should be merged? They are essentially the same weapon and in other situations like this we would normally put them on the same page separated by sections. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:53, 11 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::I was just looking into it, and it appears that there is now the M320 A1 which is [http://www.arl.army.mil/www/default.cfm/pages/8/default.cfm?article=2140 being used by the US Army] which has the grip attached to a rail, making it exactly the same as the current model of the H&K GLM, so there is in fact no difference between the two. Also, just to throw something else in the mix, I don't think the picture of the M320 fitted to the HK416 is actually a true M320, but rather the AG416 which is a proprietary variant for the HK416 which attaches via a cross pin at the front of the handguard.
:::::::Correction, turns out that M320A1 is simply the designation for the launcher fitted with M4 mounting brackets, as opposed to the M320 which has the M16 mounting brackets. In that case, it appears that there is no different designation for the launchers that have the vertical grip fixed to the barrel and the ones with the rail. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:16, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::::Maybe we can merge all of them under a "Heckler & Koch Grenade Launchers" page? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:44, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::I think we should merge the AG36, AG-C/EGLM and M320 pages (also adding in the HK169 here), but keep the HK69A1 with HK79 one separate as it is a totally different system. The only problem is, I then don't know what to call it as something like "Heckler & Koch Grenade Launchers" sounds like it should include the HK69. I think we should probably call it the "Heckler & Koch GLM series" or something like that, as the GLM is sort of the core weapon that all of the others are variants of. If you want to be technical I believe that the first one that was actually made was the AG36, but from a naming and categorisation standpoint I think GLM works better. I must admit though, I am pretty confused as to what the different variants of this actually are and in what way they differ as there is a lot of incorrect and contradictory information out there, particularly in terms of how they mount, even on the HK USA site. Does anyone know, is there a model of this that actually just mounts directly to the 6 o'clock rail on a guns forearm, and not to any other part? The M320 mounts via brackets which replace the bottom half of the handguard much like on the M203, and the AG416 mounts to a rail but must be secured by a cross pin through a hole built into the HK416/417. Some places talk about the AG-C/EGLM as though it mounts directly to a rail (I think this may just by the old/alternate name for what they call the GLM now) but I can find no specifics on how exactly it does so. I think most of the variants can actually just change into others by swapping out the mounting hardware anyway. The problem is that most airsoft replicas seem to get it wrong, with the launcher just locking via the lever that adjusts the stock, but on a real launcher I doubt that this would be up to the job of managing the recoil (hence the pin at the front of the AG416 and why the recoil of the M320 is taken directly by the barrel nut). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:14, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::I say just stick with '''AG36''', since that's the base model that all others are derived from. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:20, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::::The problem with that is that today that doesn't really make sense in terms of coming up with a proper name for the series. Also, I think the origin of the AG36 is that it was designed as the companion the the XM8 which would actually mean by that rationale that we should call it the "XM320 series". --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:40, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::::The XM320 was developed from the AG36, not the other way around. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:27, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Do you have a source or something with dates, as I have always heard that the original grenade launcher was the XM320 developed for the XM8 program. If you look at photos of the XM320 on the XM8 you will see that there are some differences such as a slightly different pistol grip and trigger guard shape which are not there on the AG36 or the M320. To me it would make more sense that the XM320 was an original version that was developed on, as opposed to having the original AG36 design, changing it for some reason, and then changing it back when it was developed into the M320. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:28, 17 May 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Beretta Px4 Storm

2014-10-16T13:04:15Z

Maxmali: New question

==Additional Variants==
[[Image:PX$SD.jpg|thumb|none|421px|Beretta Px4 Storm SD (Special Duty) with extended, non-threaded barrel - .45 ACP]]

== Differences in Appearance ==

Apart from the barrel and the writing on the slide, are there any optical differences between the different ammunition-variants?
--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 09:04, 16 October 2014 (EDT)

== Beretta PX4 Storm Inox ==

Does the Beretta PX4 Storm Inox warrant its own section?? I know with a lot of guns the two-tone version doesn't get its own but with [[Beretta]] it seems a little different. As with the [[Beretta 92FS]]/[[Beretta 92FS Inox]]. Thoughts? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 01:04, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

Only if a PX4 Inox shows up. Till then, there's no need for an Inox section. --[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 15:10, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

:Mandolin, it did show up in [[Covert Affairs - Season 3]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 15:56, 22 July 2012 (CDT)
:: Oh. Didn't see it on the PX4 page. Derp.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:43, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Burn Notice - Season 6

2014-08-15T16:24:58Z

Maxmali: Another point

== Gun Promos ==
[[File:Michael Westen S5 Shotgun 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:312064 10150995561660108 749546975 n.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:365364.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Please help ID(Updated) ==

Not sure about the black rifle. Please help. Could it be a [[Bushmaster ACR]]? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 18:04, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
[[File:BurnS6E06 106.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BurnS6E06 112.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BurnS6E06 103.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BurnS6E06 101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BurnS6E06 109.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an ACR to me, too. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:23, 12 August 2012 (CDT)
: It looks like an Magpul Masada PTS ACR to me [JavierMdR]

Its a Bushmaster ACR. The PTS Airsoft replica has a built in Flip up front sight. The one in the pic has an Magpul MBUS front sight, which the real Bushmaster ACR has. [theszurk3]

== Nickel 1911 ==

In the second screenshot it looks like it has Colt rollmarks, just because it has the full length guide rod does not make it not a Colt pistol as the full length guide rod could have been installed after purchase. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 03:05, 16 June 2012 (CDT)
:There's also a quick shot when Michael picks it up that it shows Colt on the magazine. I know it's not conclusive but just as compelling FWIW. I'm also inclined to believe the guide rod is aftermarket. I'm having trouble coming up with 1911 manufacturers that include a stainless guide rod stock yet have all other "vanilla" features like a standard (non-beavertailed) grip or raised sights. I think Norinco MIGHT make a 1911 like that, but the information is really unreliable. - [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] 19:52, 22 June 2012 (CDT)

== Glock ==

Does anyone else think that the Glock used in the season 6 premier is a Glock 19, not a 17? --[[User:Mormonpowerranger521|Mormonpowerranger521]]

I'm with you. It looks to short to be a Glock 17. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 12:30, 16 June 2012 (CDT)
:I agree.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:38, 16 June 2012 (CDT)
[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd Generation Glock 19 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BurnNS6E01 08.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The guard holds his pistol on an "injured" Michael. (S6E01)]]

==New guns==

Since nobody's worked on this page for a while, a few observations about new guns in the series:

*(1.) Jesse seems to have started using a rail-frame, stainless P226R (updating his sidearm choice slightly) in this season, though I also thought it appeared at least once last season.

*(2.) Episode 6x06 prominently featured Smith & Wesson M&P-15 rifles with dark earth furniture. I think this may be the first time that the M&P-15 has appeared in Hollywood.

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 10:53, 27 July 2012 (CDT)

:I noticed the rifles you mentioned, but from the glimpses I've seen at least one looked like it had Magpul furniture. I'll probably re-watch it and see.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 23:25, 28 July 2012 (CDT)

What makes you think this is an M&P-15, from what I can see it is just an M4 with Magpul furniture. Are there any unique features that make this an M&P-15 rather than a Colt gun? Anyway, the M&P-15 MOE (the version with the Magpul furniture) has a 16" barrel whereas this gun has the standard M4 14.5" barrel. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 12:33, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

:: That is a Bushmaster ACR MOE M4-Type Carbine [User:JavierMdR]

:Fair enough, you might be right, although I'm pretty sure that they make LE versions of the M&P-15 that have 14.5" barrels. Though it also doesn't seem to have the correct markings on the magazine well... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:21, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

:Some shots of the rifle, is it in MP15? No MP logo? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 18:29, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

::In "Shock Wave" (S6E06), the [[M16 rifle series|Smith & Wesson MP15]] is seen carried by some of the men employed by Garret Hartley ([[William Mapother]]).
[[File:BurnS6E06 16.jpg|thumb|none|800px|"Shock Wave" (S6E06)]]
[[File:BurnS6E06 11.jpg|thumb|none|800px|"Shock Wave" (S6E06)]]

::I guess that for now, we should just put that it's an M4 with Magpul furniture, as Commando pointed out. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:20, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

:: That is a Bushmaster ACR MOE M4-Type Carbine [User:JavierMdR]

:::Are you referring to the [[Remington R5 RGP]] because it is clearly not that. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 01:03, 13 August 2012 (CDT)

::::OK, I think I have found proof that this weapon is indeed a Smith & Wesson M&P-15. Here is a link to the web site of Weapons Specialists, who, as we have discussed, are now supplying the weapons for the show: http://thespecialistsltd.com/m4-moe-furniture

::::The site refers to this weapon as an "M4 - MOE furniture", but you can see that the magazine well has the S&W M&P logo. It's safe to assume that the weapon pictured on the site is the exact AR which you actually are seeing on the show. So I think it's mystery solved - the weapon is indeed an M&P-15. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:07, 24 August 2012 (CDT)

:::::I wouldn't bet on it, the gun on The Specialists' website has a 16" barrel whereas the one in the show has a 14" one (which they list as a 14.5" making it even more confusing). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 15:39, 24 August 2012 (CDT)

==M4A1==

[[File:BurnS6E02 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael's CIA trainer Tom Card ([[John C. McGinley]]) readies an M4A1 with an EOTech sight outside Kemp's house in "Mixed Messages" (S06E02).]]
This is clearly not an M4A1, as it only has a two-position fire selector, Safe and Fire. Judging by the barrel length on some of the rifles listed under M4A1, I think that they might actually be Colt LE Carbines. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 19:51, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

:It has a 14.5" barrel so I think it should be classified as an M4. It is hard to tell from some of the camera angles, but I think all of the weapons have 14.5" barrels other than the first two pictures (and possibly the one for "Split Decision") which have 16" barrels making them LE6920 Colt Law Enforcement Carbines. In terms of film/TV weapos you really cannot judge them by the lower receiver, as the majority of weapons will be civilian semi auto weapons that have either had the lower replaced with a different full auto one or have had the sear swapped out to convert them to auto. In this case as the lower only has the semi markings, that would probably make it (assuming it is a colt gun) an LE6921, also called the M4LE Carbine. As it is impossible to tell these LE M4s from military M4s without seeing the selector markings (and most of the time they will be depicted as full auto guns), I think these should be listed as M4s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:26, 30 July 2012 (CDT)

== Jesse's SIG ==

I'm not convinced that this is a P226, look at the lack of double stack bulges in this picture-
[[File:BurnS6E04 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the pistol in question.]]
But I've checked it out before and I came to the conclusion that it was a P226, but then I saw that picture...other thoughts?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 16:58, 11 August 2012 (CDT)
:From the first screenshot it looks like it could be a .45, my guess would be a newer P220:[[File:SigP220RSilver.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG-Sauer P220ST - .45 ACP]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:26, 11 August 2012 (CDT)

::Yeah, I think you're right, it is a P220. Although what's weird is that when this gun first appeared in Season 5, it was a P226:

::[[File:BurnS5E13 102.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jesse with his P226 in "Damned If You Do" (S5E13).]]

::Here, you can see the double-stack bulges on the frame if you look carefully, IDing it as a 226. I guess I would have figured that the armorer would have used the same gun both seasons, but maybe the 226 wasn't available when they started filming this season. Also, ISS has had rail-frame P220STs in inventory for a while now (they first started showing up on TV as far back as Season 2 of ''[[NCIS - Season 2|NCIS]]''). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 11:08, 12 August 2012 (CDT)
:::Yep, the one in this picture is definitely a 226. But that was in Season 5. I'm thinking that maybe the show switched armorers this season (or the same armorer changed his inventory), because there are some subtle differences in the guns this season. Such as Mike's P30 now has a shaved hammer and the P226 became a P220, and I bet there are some others we haven't found yet. I'm pretty sure the Magpul furniture on the M4's is new, as well as the P556 hybrid thing. As the season continues, there might be some other new stuff.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:05, 12 August 2012 (CDT)

::::OK, I did some research, and it turns out you're correct. For the past five seasons, the show got its weapons from Independent Studio Services (ISS) in California, and a guy named Andrew Wert was the main armorer. As of Season 6, the show's guns are rented from Weapons Specialists, Ltd. (now just The Specialists) in New York, and Ryan Washburn is the new weapons masters. I'm guessing that this explains the changes in weapons that you have pointed out. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:19, 12 August 2012 (CDT)

:::::Alright, that's interesting. I browsed through their website and found a stainless P220 (no stainless P226), a MOE M4, and a "two tone" SG 552 (the P556 hybrid), so this is definitely the armorer. I didn't see the P30 or Kahr T9, but I'm sure their website isn't perfectly up to date.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:36, 12 August 2012 (CDT)

::::::They also have the "Less Lethal" Mossberg 500 fitted with the orange furniture and what they call the Remington 870 Magnum which is identified as a Remington 870 MCS on this page. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 01:00, 13 August 2012 (CDT)

:::::::What's also funny is that the pic of the AKS-74U with RIS that appears on the page was also taken from The Specialists' web site, which means that the gun in the picture is probably the exact same one which appears on the show. (Also pretty sure that this AKSU was used in ''[[Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:26, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

== Kahr in Episode 8 ==

I have no idea what kind of Kahr this is, but it's definitely way too big for a K9.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 17:01, 11 August 2012 (CDT)
[[File:BurnS6E08 06.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mike with the unknown Kahr.]]

:It is it's "tactical" brother with a 4" barrel and longer grip, the T9: [[File:Kahr T9.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Kahr T9 - 9x19mm]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:23, 11 August 2012 (CDT)

== Taser ==
I changed the Taser to an X3 based on The Specilists LTD, who supplied the weapons for the show, having an X3 exactly like the one in the show in their inventory:[[http://thespecialistsltd.com/taser-x3]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 01:31, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
:I also think it's an X3, but don't start id'ing guns based on what they have listed on their inventory. Sure, it can help with unknowns, but who says that their website is accurate or up to date?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 02:20, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
::Well, I had already thought it was an X3, I was just using that as a backup to support the change. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 02:28, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
:::Yeah, that wasn't necessarily directed at you, but I could see some people changing things because they "aren't listed on the website" and I wanted to go ahead and mention that that is not a good idea.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 12:53, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
::::Oh ok, yeah I have never done it before, just saw it on their site so I figured it was that taser. Yeah, I agree that the site is probably not completely accurate, because I doubt the company only has about 20 pistols because that's around the amount on their site. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:10, 13 August 2012 (CDT)

== AR-pattern sniper rifle ==
[[File:BurnS6E10 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Desperate Times" (S6E10), what is identified as an [[SR-25|M110]] sniper rifle is one of the weapons that the CIA provides for Michael and the time. ]]
[[File:BurnS6E10 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Desperate Times" (S6E10), closeup of the rifle.]]
[[File:BurnS6E10 28.jpg|thumb|none|600px|in "Desperate Times" (S6E10).]]

I don't know what that is, but it's not an M110. The rail forearms are both wrong (the one in the first two pics looks ''similar'' to that on the PWS Diablo), the lower receiver lacks a bolt catch on the right side, and, most telling, the upper receiver has a combined brass deflector/forward assist assembly. I'm thinking a Vltor of some kind, but I don't recognize it as any specific rifle model. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:48, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

:Is Tyler Gray's weapon [http://www.snipercentral.com/dpmssass.phtml one of these]? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 19:21, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

== What are these? ♥o♥ ==
Sniper rifles used in "Ends & Means" (S6E12). Once someone helps me ID them I can crop out the black bars and add them. They are HD and sans network logo.--[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] ([[User talk:Sergei Titov|talk]]) 02:04, 18 November 2012 (EST)

Never mind, search indexed bullpup and looked through results till I found it. Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout.--[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] ([[User talk:Sergei Titov|talk]]) 02:04, 18 November 2012 (EST)
[[File:QuickTimePlayer 2012-11-09 10-44-55-08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:QuickTimePlayer 2012-11-09 10-44-56-06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:QuickTimePlayer 2012-11-09 10-44-57-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Unless there are any editors for BN s6 anymore, I'm going to proceed with uploading my screencaps. Merci ;)--[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] ([[User talk:Sergei Titov|talk]]) 02:04, 18 November 2012 (EST)
:Feel free, but remember to crop out the black bars at the top and bottom of the screenshots. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:30, 18 November 2012 (EST)

== Was that a S&W M&P? ==

I noticed that in the episode "Ends and Means" when Michael is in the room with Card, that there appears to be some something on the slide of his handgun. It actually looks like the warning sticker that comes on M&Ps. I can't take a screenshot but can anyone else confirm or deny whether it is indeed a M&P?
:I'm pretty sure it was an M&P variant, I don't see it on the page though.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] ([[User talk:--JazzBlackBelt--|talk]]) 04:35, 27 June 2013 (EDT)
[[File:BurnS5E12 11.jpg|500px|none|thumb]]
:Looks like a .45 to me as well. Maybe it was used as a stand in for his P30. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 13:43, 28 June 2013 (EDT)

== Walther P99 Continuity ==

In episode 16, near the end of the episode, during the standoff, Michael's P30 is replaced by a Walther P99 for several minutes, before switching back and forth to the HK in several quick cuts during the action at the end of the scene. It also appeared that the Walther was jammed or had the slide lock back during one part. --[[User:IvanSidorenko|IvanSidorenko]] ([[User talk:IvanSidorenko|talk]]) 04:04, 7 July 2013 (EDT)

== Beretta in Trailer ==
Fiona's Beretta 3032 Tomcat from the previous seasons was used in the TV-trailer for season 6 (in Ad-breaks and at the end of each aired episode), in the form of Fiona tossing it in an arch to Michael, throwing it across the Series title.
Maybe that's worth mentioning on the page.
--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 12:24, 15 August 2014 (EDT)

Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe

2014-08-05T16:09:10Z

Maxmali: Added a detail

[[Image:Burnnoticefall.jpg‎|thumb|right|301px|''Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe'' (2011)]]

'''''Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe''''' is the 2011 television prequel film to the series ''[[Burn Notice]]''. The film follows Sam Axe ([[Bruce Campbell]]) on a mission to Colombia during his days as a Navy SEAL and reveals the reason why he retired from the military to live in Miami. The film was directed by ''[[Burn Notice]]'' star [[Jeffrey Donovan]].

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
==SIG-Sauer P226==
A [[SIG-Sauer P226]] is seen as the sidearm of Lt. Commander Sam Axe ([[Bruce Campbell]]).
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A factory black (K-Kote) SIG-Sauer P226 pistol chambered in 9x19mm. This is a real movie gun and has appeared in several motion pictures.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Commander Sam Axe ([[Bruce Campbell]]) pulls his SIG-Sauer P226]]
[[File:BNFOSA 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sam puts his SIG to the head of CIA officer Bailey ([[John Ales]]).]]
[[File:BNFOSA 47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Commandante Veracruz' ([[Pedro Pascal]]) sidearm changes briefly to a SIG.]]

== Glock 17 ==
The [[Glock_17#Glock_17|Glock 17]] is used by Lt. Commander Sam Axe ([[Bruce Campbell]]) to threaten CIA Officers Bailey and Manaro.
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Glock 17 Second Generation- 9x19mm.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sam ([[Bruce Campbell]]) pulls the Glock on CIA operatives.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Glock used by Sam.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 205.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Manaro (Brendan O'Malley) is threatened with Sam's Glock.]]

==Umarex SA177 BB Gun Repeater==
Colonel Veracruz ([[Pedro Pascal]]) carries what appears to be a Umarex SA177 BB Gun Repeater, a replica that somewhat resembles the Glock.
[[File:Umarex.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[File:BNFOSA 200.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sam is threatened with the pistol.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Veracruz ([[Pedro Pascal]]) threatens Sam with his pistol.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 202.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handgun is aimed at Sam.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Veracruz with his handgun. ]].

=Rifles=
==M4A1 Carbine==
Some of Veracruz's troops are armed with the [[M4A1]] rifle.
[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with 4 position collapsible stock 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:BNFOSA 20.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:BNFOSA 48.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:BNFOSA 49.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:BNFOSA 42.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the absence of a front sight, and the flipped down rear sight, making it difficult if not impossibe to aim the rifle.]]

==M16A1 (with A2 handguards) ==
Many of Veracruz's troops are armed with [[M16A1]] rifles that have been fitted with A2 Handguards. Sam is seen holding up one as well.
[[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 43.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sam holds up the M16A1 rifle that's been fitted with A2 handguards (according to the DVD commentary, this is a deliberate homage to [[Bruce Campbell]]'s "this is my boomstick" scene in ''[[Army of Darkness]]''). ]]

==Bushmaster XM15 "V-Match"==
A [[M16|Bushmaster XM15 "V-Match"]] appears to be also carried by many of Veracruz's troops.
[[Image:Bushmaster xm15 vmatch 20.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Bushmaster XM15 "V-Match" Note smooth handguard and absence of front sight - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:BNFOSA 48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sam is threatened by Veracruz's troops. The rifle on the right appears to be a Bushmaster.]]

==CQB-R / Mk. 18 Mod 0==
At least one [[M16 rifle series|CQB-R / Mk. 18 Mod 0]] is used by Veracruz's soldiers during the battle at the cliff.
[[Image:M4A1CQBR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mk. 18 Mod 0 5.56x45mm with RIS handguard]]
[[File:BNFOSA 21.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==FN FAL==
The [[FN FAL]] is seen being used by one of Veracruz's soldiers during the battle at the cliff.
[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|500px| FN FAL 50.00 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:BNFOSA 28.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[FN FAL]] is seen being used by one of Veracruz's soldiers during the battle at the cliff.]]

== Mauser Rifles==
Many of the rebels can be seen carrying [[Mauser Rifle Series|Mauser]]-type rifles throughout the film.
[[File:Chilean1895Mauser.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[File:BNFOSA 46.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luis (Germán Escallón) with his Mauser.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 36.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:BNFOSA 29.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Winchester Model 1873==
A few [[Winchester Model 1873]] rifles are seen being used by rebels, as well as Sam Axe.
[[Image:Winchester1873.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Winchester Model 1873 carbine - 1st generation rifle - 44-40 Cal.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel holds the Winchester.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 34.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sam opens fire with the Winchester.]]

==Norinco Type 56==
What appear to be [[Norinco Type 56]] rifles are used by several of Veracruz's soldiers. They are 7.62x39mm AK variants with solid stocks, and though there aren't any good shots of the front sight, they appear to be Norinco rifles because of the commonality of these rifles in comparison to other variants.
[[Image:Type56Standard.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 - 7.62x39mm.]]
[[File:BNFOSA 33.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

=Shotguns=
==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==
Many of the rebels are also seen using [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]]s.
[[File:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[File:BNFOSA 25.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The rebels are also seen using [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]]s.]]

=Heavy Weapons=
==M134 Minigun==
The [[M134 Minigun]] is seen mounted on a Colombian police helicopter that engages Veracruz's troops. It's important to note that the sound effect being used is incredibly inaccurate.
[[Image:Armament.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M134 Minigun mounted on M21 Armament Subsystem (Which also includes huge M158 Rocket Launcher).]]
[[File:BNFOSA 38.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[M134 Minigun]] is seen mounted on a Colombian police helicopter that engages Veracruz's troops. It's important to note that the sound effect being used is incredibly inaccurate.]]
=See Also=
{{Burn Notice Series}}

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Comedy]]
[[CAtegory:Drama]]
[[Category:Espionage]]

Talk:Criminal Minds - Season 9

2014-08-01T15:55:11Z

Maxmali: /* Hasting's Weapon */

== "Route 66" 's sawed-off stock shotgun is this ? ==

A shotgun is [[High Standard Flite King Shotgun Series]] or [[Armscor M30 Series Shotguns]]? I was determined from shape of receiver and bolt. --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 11:57, 31 July 2014 (JST)
[[File:CMS9E05_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|seen in "Route 66" (S9E05).]]
[[Image:HighStandardK120Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|High Standard FLITE KING K-1200 Riot Standard Model (Catalog #8111) - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:Shotgunr6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Armscor M30R6 - 12 gauge.]]

: Could be either, though I'm leaning to the Armscor personally. I do agree it's NOT a Mossberg - It lacks the Mossberg safety, and the trigger-guard and receiver aren't quite right (the [[Maverick Model 88]], which has a trigger-guard button safety, still uses the the same receiver style, so not that either). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 13:18, 31 July 2014 (EDT)

:: I would say that it rather looks like the Armscor, as the iron behind the ejector port appeares in two shades, as if it is angled. Although I don't know if that effect might come from the shotgun just being used (dirt, aging, etc), or if it has been modified to fire blanks (although I don't know why a shotgun needs to be adapted).--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 16:34, 31 July 2014 (EDT)

== Hasting's Weapon ==

Does anyone know the weapon that Michael Hastings, played by Tahmoh Penikett, used in the 200th episode? Its bugging me a bit that it hasn't been identified. --[[User:Bauer2121|Bauer2121]] ([[User talk:Bauer2121|talk]]) 06:18, 31 July 2014 (EDT)
[[File:CMS9E14 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(S9E14).]]

: The page lists it as a 1911A1, although I don't see this rounded part on the front of the slide on the 1911, which the pictured pistol seems to have.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 11:55, 1 August 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Pancor Jackhammer

2014-08-01T15:51:13Z

Maxmali:

If there have been two of these shotguns made, where are they?
Have they been scrapped?
Because if they're in some collection or museum, maybe it would be possible to get a better photo.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 11:51, 1 August 2014 (EDT)

Why is fallout 3 on this page? [[Special:Contributions/193.1.104.2|193.1.104.2]] 18:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Dunno, but don't worry, it's gone now [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:42, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:FN P90

2014-08-01T11:03:20Z

Maxmali: /* What about P90's reliability? */

==Other Variants==

[[Image:Fn p90 3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|FN P90 Tactical LV with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope, Surefire Universal weaponlight, and suppressor. The LV model is fitted with an integral laser as noted by the plate on the front of the grip, and the laser warning sticker - 5.7x28mm]]
[[File:P90pred.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Airsoft FN P90 "Predator" - 6mm BBs]]

== P90 TR and PS90 ==

Do FN actually offer a TR version? As I understood it, the TR version is a figment of airsoft gunmaker Toyko Marui's imagination which was created to allow them to resume production after the mould for their standard P90 sight block broke. I have seen real P90s with triple rail sight blocks in photos, but described as aftermarket parts. Airsoft P90s are so close to the real thing, and P90s are so rarely seen actually firing on film, that I feel it is likely that all or nearly all P90TRs on film are actually airsoft guns.

With the PS90, I thought that was semi-auto only in factory form, sold as the civilian-legal version of the P90, hence the long barrel, much as an HK94 is to an MP5. I'm not certain about either of these things, so I thought it best to ask the pros before changing the page.

The PS90 is according to FN a Semi-Automatic only weapon. As for the P90TR that is offered by FNUSA as a Standard Production Model.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 16:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

: The PS90 is really friggin' front heavy-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

::Wasn't when I held it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:33, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

==Magazines==
FN only offers 30 round magazines for the civilian version of this gun but I have heard that the 50 round magazines are fairly easy to find after market. Can anyone confirm or deny this? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:I found a few on impactguns and gunbroker, you can also buy directly from their site fnhusa, and I'm pretty sure you can find some from google.--[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 04:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Still don't understand why they ship with 30 round mags instead of 50. All that happens is the new owner of this gun gets it with the 30 rounder, then buys 50s after that.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thats the point, if they just gave you a 50rd mag then thats one less thing your gonna buy from em. They can nickel and dime ya to death hah.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 10:38, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

:But then theres the aftermarket magazines plus the tooling needed to make those magazines. Its really pointless.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

==TR==
TR stands for Triple Rail not Tactical Rail as it is on the page. I just checked FNH USA's website it is there. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 17:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

== Question ==

How powerful is the 5.7x28mm round anyway? Can it penetrate through your standard bulletproof vest? Or can it also penetrate the more heavier bulletproof vests? --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 17:55, 17 March 2011 (CDT)
:The P90 can penetrate through light bulletproof vests (mostly Level II) like those wrapped in Kevlar with ease, but it cannot actually penetrate through the more heavier bulletproof vests. The 5.7x28mm rounds are similar to the 4.6x30mm rounds fired by the MP7. In fact, both the MP7 and the P90 are technically and generally similar in terms of accuracy, compactness, stopping power, and weight (though the P90 is more bulkier than the MP7). The 5.7x28mm rounds are overall powerful, light, and a similar size to the 9mm rounds fired by most submachine guns. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 22:09, 16 September 2011 (CDT)
::It can actually penetrate a IIIA vest, or the CRISAT target (1.6mm titanium plate with 20 layers of Kevlar) at 200m. Basically, it will penetrate any soft armour and most helmets at this range, but will be stopped by the hard plates used in most military vests. The MP7 has similar penetration. Of course, this only applies to military ammunition, not the civilian stuff. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 03:33, 17 September 2011 (CDT)

== Taxi Listing ==

The movie page [[Taxi]] doesn't have a P90 entry, so either it's missing it or the entry for it here needs to be removed. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 12:41, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

== P90 Tactical ==

[[File:P90 tact d 500px.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN P90 Tactical - 5.7x28mm]]
Firstly, what is the deal with the Tactical model? It is the railed top model listed on the FN Herstal website, but the FNH USA page only lists the TR version. Is the Tactical a Europe only version, or is it just that the US website is "behind the times"?

Secondly, does it deserve its own section? The only show I've found that has used it is [[Nikita (2010)|Nikita]] (only checked the TR section though so could be more), is that enough? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:54, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
:It seems to be a regular P90 with the reflex scope replaced with a rail. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 20:40, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
::That is what it is, but it isn't an aftermarket modification, FN sells it like that as the P90 Tactical as opposed to the regular P90 Standard. They don't appear to offer the P90 TR anymore, this is the only "flat top" model. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 03:36, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
:::Not that it necessarily pertains to this conversation, but the P90 in the P90 TR section with the aimpoint and sound suppressor looks like it could be a Tactical instead of a TR, as the scope is sitting higher and the flashlight seems further back than it should be on the TR. [[User:Dover500|Dover500]] 06:22, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
::::Yeah that one is a tactical too, easier way to tell is the fact that the top rail is longer than the upper receiver. Also, you can see that it still has the back up iron sights on the side. Thinking about it, the tactical version has the standard back up iron sights on either side of the upper receiver, but it also has another set of back up iron sights inside the flat top rail (not sure if they are flip up or recessed inside) which means it has three separate sets of iron sights. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:21, 17 September 2011 (CDT)

== What about P90's reliability? ==

So,what is the P90? I mean, it looks like a perfect weapon to me. It's small, it's light, fitted with 50 nice 5.7x28mm rounds. And what about gun's reliability and stuff? I really love the gun,and.. is it really THAT perfect? [[User:Littlesoldier1|Littlesoldier1]] 18:21, 29 February 2012 (CST)

: It is a well engineered and built PDW-gun, and has a couple of opportunities compared to other guns, such as the (not-civillian) 50 rounds in the magazine, the overall smooth form, with nothing really sticking out, the fact that it packs a compact size while not loosing accuracy (thanks to the bullpup-layout), and the shells being ejected downwards, making it a perfect gun for left & right handed shooting or shooting in narrow spaces. The downsides are the almost unique calibre, the fact that many people dislike polymer-guns. And guns that look/function unusual always have a hard stand, just look at how the M16 was treated when it was introduced to soldiers.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 07:01, 1 August 2014 (EDT)

Talk:FN P90

2014-08-01T11:02:18Z

Maxmali: /* What about P90's reliability? */

==Other Variants==

[[Image:Fn p90 3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|FN P90 Tactical LV with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope, Surefire Universal weaponlight, and suppressor. The LV model is fitted with an integral laser as noted by the plate on the front of the grip, and the laser warning sticker - 5.7x28mm]]
[[File:P90pred.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Airsoft FN P90 "Predator" - 6mm BBs]]

== P90 TR and PS90 ==

Do FN actually offer a TR version? As I understood it, the TR version is a figment of airsoft gunmaker Toyko Marui's imagination which was created to allow them to resume production after the mould for their standard P90 sight block broke. I have seen real P90s with triple rail sight blocks in photos, but described as aftermarket parts. Airsoft P90s are so close to the real thing, and P90s are so rarely seen actually firing on film, that I feel it is likely that all or nearly all P90TRs on film are actually airsoft guns.

With the PS90, I thought that was semi-auto only in factory form, sold as the civilian-legal version of the P90, hence the long barrel, much as an HK94 is to an MP5. I'm not certain about either of these things, so I thought it best to ask the pros before changing the page.

The PS90 is according to FN a Semi-Automatic only weapon. As for the P90TR that is offered by FNUSA as a Standard Production Model.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 16:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

: The PS90 is really friggin' front heavy-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

::Wasn't when I held it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:33, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

==Magazines==
FN only offers 30 round magazines for the civilian version of this gun but I have heard that the 50 round magazines are fairly easy to find after market. Can anyone confirm or deny this? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:I found a few on impactguns and gunbroker, you can also buy directly from their site fnhusa, and I'm pretty sure you can find some from google.--[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 04:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Still don't understand why they ship with 30 round mags instead of 50. All that happens is the new owner of this gun gets it with the 30 rounder, then buys 50s after that.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thats the point, if they just gave you a 50rd mag then thats one less thing your gonna buy from em. They can nickel and dime ya to death hah.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 10:38, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

:But then theres the aftermarket magazines plus the tooling needed to make those magazines. Its really pointless.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

==TR==
TR stands for Triple Rail not Tactical Rail as it is on the page. I just checked FNH USA's website it is there. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 17:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

== Question ==

How powerful is the 5.7x28mm round anyway? Can it penetrate through your standard bulletproof vest? Or can it also penetrate the more heavier bulletproof vests? --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 17:55, 17 March 2011 (CDT)
:The P90 can penetrate through light bulletproof vests (mostly Level II) like those wrapped in Kevlar with ease, but it cannot actually penetrate through the more heavier bulletproof vests. The 5.7x28mm rounds are similar to the 4.6x30mm rounds fired by the MP7. In fact, both the MP7 and the P90 are technically and generally similar in terms of accuracy, compactness, stopping power, and weight (though the P90 is more bulkier than the MP7). The 5.7x28mm rounds are overall powerful, light, and a similar size to the 9mm rounds fired by most submachine guns. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 22:09, 16 September 2011 (CDT)
::It can actually penetrate a IIIA vest, or the CRISAT target (1.6mm titanium plate with 20 layers of Kevlar) at 200m. Basically, it will penetrate any soft armour and most helmets at this range, but will be stopped by the hard plates used in most military vests. The MP7 has similar penetration. Of course, this only applies to military ammunition, not the civilian stuff. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 03:33, 17 September 2011 (CDT)

== Taxi Listing ==

The movie page [[Taxi]] doesn't have a P90 entry, so either it's missing it or the entry for it here needs to be removed. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 12:41, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

== P90 Tactical ==

[[File:P90 tact d 500px.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN P90 Tactical - 5.7x28mm]]
Firstly, what is the deal with the Tactical model? It is the railed top model listed on the FN Herstal website, but the FNH USA page only lists the TR version. Is the Tactical a Europe only version, or is it just that the US website is "behind the times"?

Secondly, does it deserve its own section? The only show I've found that has used it is [[Nikita (2010)|Nikita]] (only checked the TR section though so could be more), is that enough? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:54, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
:It seems to be a regular P90 with the reflex scope replaced with a rail. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 20:40, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
::That is what it is, but it isn't an aftermarket modification, FN sells it like that as the P90 Tactical as opposed to the regular P90 Standard. They don't appear to offer the P90 TR anymore, this is the only "flat top" model. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 03:36, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
:::Not that it necessarily pertains to this conversation, but the P90 in the P90 TR section with the aimpoint and sound suppressor looks like it could be a Tactical instead of a TR, as the scope is sitting higher and the flashlight seems further back than it should be on the TR. [[User:Dover500|Dover500]] 06:22, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
::::Yeah that one is a tactical too, easier way to tell is the fact that the top rail is longer than the upper receiver. Also, you can see that it still has the back up iron sights on the side. Thinking about it, the tactical version has the standard back up iron sights on either side of the upper receiver, but it also has another set of back up iron sights inside the flat top rail (not sure if they are flip up or recessed inside) which means it has three separate sets of iron sights. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:21, 17 September 2011 (CDT)

== What about P90's reliability? ==

So,what is the P90? I mean, it looks like a perfect weapon to me. It's small, it's light, fitted with 50 nice 5.7x28mm rounds. And what about gun's reliability and stuff? I really love the gun,and.. is it really THAT perfect? [[User:Littlesoldier1|Littlesoldier1]] 18:21, 29 February 2012 (CST)

: It is a well engineered and built PDW-gun, and has a couple of opportunities compared to other guns, such as the (not-civillian) 50 rounds in the magazine, the overall smooth form, with nothing really sticking out, the fact that it packs a compact size while not loosing accuracy (thanks to the bullpup-layout), and the shells being ejected downwards, making it a perfect gun for left & right handed shooting or shooting in narrow spaces.
The downsides are the almost unique calibre, the fact that many people dislike polymer-guns. And guns that look/function unusual always have a hard stand, just look at how the M16 was treated when it was introduced to soldiers.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 07:01, 1 August 2014 (EDT)

Talk:FN P90

2014-08-01T11:01:49Z

Maxmali: /* What about P90's reliability? */

==Other Variants==

[[Image:Fn p90 3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|FN P90 Tactical LV with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope, Surefire Universal weaponlight, and suppressor. The LV model is fitted with an integral laser as noted by the plate on the front of the grip, and the laser warning sticker - 5.7x28mm]]
[[File:P90pred.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Airsoft FN P90 "Predator" - 6mm BBs]]

== P90 TR and PS90 ==

Do FN actually offer a TR version? As I understood it, the TR version is a figment of airsoft gunmaker Toyko Marui's imagination which was created to allow them to resume production after the mould for their standard P90 sight block broke. I have seen real P90s with triple rail sight blocks in photos, but described as aftermarket parts. Airsoft P90s are so close to the real thing, and P90s are so rarely seen actually firing on film, that I feel it is likely that all or nearly all P90TRs on film are actually airsoft guns.

With the PS90, I thought that was semi-auto only in factory form, sold as the civilian-legal version of the P90, hence the long barrel, much as an HK94 is to an MP5. I'm not certain about either of these things, so I thought it best to ask the pros before changing the page.

The PS90 is according to FN a Semi-Automatic only weapon. As for the P90TR that is offered by FNUSA as a Standard Production Model.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 16:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

: The PS90 is really friggin' front heavy-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

::Wasn't when I held it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:33, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

==Magazines==
FN only offers 30 round magazines for the civilian version of this gun but I have heard that the 50 round magazines are fairly easy to find after market. Can anyone confirm or deny this? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:I found a few on impactguns and gunbroker, you can also buy directly from their site fnhusa, and I'm pretty sure you can find some from google.--[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 04:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Still don't understand why they ship with 30 round mags instead of 50. All that happens is the new owner of this gun gets it with the 30 rounder, then buys 50s after that.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thats the point, if they just gave you a 50rd mag then thats one less thing your gonna buy from em. They can nickel and dime ya to death hah.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 10:38, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

:But then theres the aftermarket magazines plus the tooling needed to make those magazines. Its really pointless.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

==TR==
TR stands for Triple Rail not Tactical Rail as it is on the page. I just checked FNH USA's website it is there. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 17:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

== Question ==

How powerful is the 5.7x28mm round anyway? Can it penetrate through your standard bulletproof vest? Or can it also penetrate the more heavier bulletproof vests? --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 17:55, 17 March 2011 (CDT)
:The P90 can penetrate through light bulletproof vests (mostly Level II) like those wrapped in Kevlar with ease, but it cannot actually penetrate through the more heavier bulletproof vests. The 5.7x28mm rounds are similar to the 4.6x30mm rounds fired by the MP7. In fact, both the MP7 and the P90 are technically and generally similar in terms of accuracy, compactness, stopping power, and weight (though the P90 is more bulkier than the MP7). The 5.7x28mm rounds are overall powerful, light, and a similar size to the 9mm rounds fired by most submachine guns. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 22:09, 16 September 2011 (CDT)
::It can actually penetrate a IIIA vest, or the CRISAT target (1.6mm titanium plate with 20 layers of Kevlar) at 200m. Basically, it will penetrate any soft armour and most helmets at this range, but will be stopped by the hard plates used in most military vests. The MP7 has similar penetration. Of course, this only applies to military ammunition, not the civilian stuff. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 03:33, 17 September 2011 (CDT)

== Taxi Listing ==

The movie page [[Taxi]] doesn't have a P90 entry, so either it's missing it or the entry for it here needs to be removed. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 12:41, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

== P90 Tactical ==

[[File:P90 tact d 500px.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN P90 Tactical - 5.7x28mm]]
Firstly, what is the deal with the Tactical model? It is the railed top model listed on the FN Herstal website, but the FNH USA page only lists the TR version. Is the Tactical a Europe only version, or is it just that the US website is "behind the times"?

Secondly, does it deserve its own section? The only show I've found that has used it is [[Nikita (2010)|Nikita]] (only checked the TR section though so could be more), is that enough? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:54, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
:It seems to be a regular P90 with the reflex scope replaced with a rail. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 20:40, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
::That is what it is, but it isn't an aftermarket modification, FN sells it like that as the P90 Tactical as opposed to the regular P90 Standard. They don't appear to offer the P90 TR anymore, this is the only "flat top" model. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 03:36, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
:::Not that it necessarily pertains to this conversation, but the P90 in the P90 TR section with the aimpoint and sound suppressor looks like it could be a Tactical instead of a TR, as the scope is sitting higher and the flashlight seems further back than it should be on the TR. [[User:Dover500|Dover500]] 06:22, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
::::Yeah that one is a tactical too, easier way to tell is the fact that the top rail is longer than the upper receiver. Also, you can see that it still has the back up iron sights on the side. Thinking about it, the tactical version has the standard back up iron sights on either side of the upper receiver, but it also has another set of back up iron sights inside the flat top rail (not sure if they are flip up or recessed inside) which means it has three separate sets of iron sights. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:21, 17 September 2011 (CDT)

== What about P90's reliability? ==

So,what is the P90? I mean, it looks like a perfect weapon to me. It's small, it's light, fitted with 50 nice 5.7x28mm rounds. And what about gun's reliability and stuff? I really love the gun,and.. is it really THAT perfect? [[User:Littlesoldier1|Littlesoldier1]] 18:21, 29 February 2012 (CST)

: It is a well engineered and built PDW-gun, and has a couple of opportunities compared to other guns, such as the (not-civillian) 50 rounds in the magazine, the overall smooth form, with nothing really sticking out, the fact that it packs a compact size while not loosing accuracy (thanks to the bullpup-layout), and the shells being ejected downwards, making it a perfect gun for left & right handed shooting or shooting in narrow spaces.
The downsides are the almost unique calibre, the fact that many people dislike polymer-guns.
And guns that look/function unusual always have a hard stand, just look at how the M16 was treated when it was introduced to soldiers.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 07:01, 1 August 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Criminal Minds - Season 9

2014-07-31T20:34:46Z

Maxmali: /* "Route 66" 's sawed-off stock shotgun is this ? */

Talk:Taser

2014-07-31T16:28:15Z

Maxmali:

==A TASER is NOT a firearm!==
This is a prime candidate for DELETION. There are many other less lethal devices used by police and civilians. Stunguns, Pepper spray, beanbag rounds, rubber. Though the original Taser is classified by the ATF as a firearm, only because some of the models use chemical charges to fire the darts (some others don't) it's a pure technicality. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC) Opinions from other members on the subject are requested.
:I know it is not a firearm but the FN 303 is also not a firearm as it also uses compressed air and it has a page, I just thought that I would make a page for the taser as it is seen in quite a few movies and tv shows these days. --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 05:47, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
::That page can easily be removed if you so desire, however, one of the criteria is whether or not the general public will confuse it with a firearm (or the generally accepted definition of a firearm). No one wonders what a Taser is, they know what a Taser is and they KNOW it's not a firearm in the conventional sense of the word. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I say let it stay. If you can hold it in your hand and use it to shoot a projectile out at someone, it's a firearm in my eyes, More so, even than some of the "fantasy weapons" allowed on here.--[[User:Spikemonkey|Spikemonkey]] 05:25, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I suppose if you want to get pedantic, firearms are ranged weapons that rely on chemical explosives (where the "fire" in "firearm" comes from) to propel a projectile at something or someone to cause harm to it by breaking the target apart, and receives all of its propulsive energy at the start (unlike missiles or rockets which gradually accelerate). By this definition, a speargun is not a firearm (since it relies on tension rather than expanding gases to launch the projectile) and rail- or coil-guns don't count either, since they electromagnetically accelerate a projectile rather than using a chemical explosive (maybe the technical term should be "EMAC gun" and not rifle since they don't require any rifling in a barrel?).

I myself don't mind which way this wiki swings, since here we also list things that are not strictly man-portable firearms either (like the entries for rocket launchers, mines and vehicle-mounted weapons such as the Bushmaster chaingun). I would like this wiki to be on the inclusive side, so as long as it's within reason. One example is how I plan to include the "Less-Lethal Shotgun" on the [[S.W.A.T. 4]] page since it's converted from a Benelli Nova shotgun and still uses chemical explosives to propel its beanbags, but won't include the Pepper Spray in the game since it's not a ranged weapon nor was it made from a conventional firearm. The Pepper-ball gun I've decided to include anyway for completeness' sake, despite using compressed air instead of chemical explosives.

Either way, whichever the decision the powers-that-be here on this wiki make, it should be clear and posted somewhere easily accessed and seen so that the policy of this wiki will be clear and easily enforced for all contributors. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 05:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks. Will do. The problem is that SOME NEW MEMBERS always find a way to 'stretch' the definition of what should be on the site. I suppose that is why rules and regulations always end up being so LONG. This IS the Movie FIREARMS database, and yes, I've had FIGHTS with other members as to the 'mission creep' of ever expanding lists of stuff that appears on the site. One of these days we'll have a page for 'Sharp Stick' and there will be someone arguing as to why it should be here. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea if this is finished or not but I think that if you delete this on the basis that it is not strictly a firearm, well, there will be so much other things that should be removed from the site, just like mines & such. Rocket launchers arn't firearms either. Just saying my view. :)
--[[User:ZacharyXD|ZacharyXD]] ([[User talk:ZacharyXD|talk]]) 14:49, 11 September 2012 (EDT)
: I agree with --ZacharyXD, after all even Airsoft-Guns and Non-guns are listed, and they're even further "off" from the firearm-classification. So this definitely deserves to stay here.

Talk:Divergent

2014-07-31T14:02:32Z

Maxmali:

The rifle sure is a mock-up made for the movie, but, at least partly, it seems to be made of real gun parts, like the upper rail of a H&K G36C, and an M4-Style telescope-Buttstock.
Maybe that's worth adding to the text.
--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 10:02, 31 July 2014 (EDT)

Tris uses the Rino as well, and you might add the Dauntless rifle and pistol, at least to the discussion page.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 18:20, 29 March 2014 (EDT)
: I though Four used the Rino, not Eric.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 13:54, 30 March 2014 (EDT)
:: Four definitely used the Rhino, in his "test sequence", and Tris uses it in one of her's, as far as I remember.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 10:02, 31 July 2014 (EDT)