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Total War: Shogun 2

2016-03-08T19:21:18Z

MaxRavenclaw: /* Snider-Enfield rifle */

[[File:TWS2.JPG|300px|thumb|right|''Total War: Shotgun 2'']]
{{Game Title}}
__TOC__<br clear=all>
=Total War: Shogun 2=
== Tanegashima ==
The main gun you'll see in the game is the [[Tanegashima]], a Japanese matchlock arquebus. This gun is the only Japanese firearm made for the next couple of centuries and is used by the in-game Ashigaru units as well as Portuguese Missionaries.
[[Image:TanegashimaGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Japanese "Tanegashima" matchlock arquebus.]]
[[File:TWS21.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Three Ashigaru troops stand ready, Tanegashimas in hand.]]
[[File:TWS22.jpg|600px|thumb|none|A line of Ashigaru troops volley fire their Tanegashimas.]]
[[File:TWS23.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Portuguese missionaries also use their own matchlock muskets.]]

=Total War: Shogun 2 — Fall of the Samurai=
'''''Total War: Shogun 2 — Fall of the Samurai''''' is an expansion pack for the game that sets it in the late 1800's and adds quite a lot of firearms to the game.
==Smith & Wesson Model 2==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 2]] is added with this expansion pack and usually seen with officers.
[[Image:S&wmodel2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 2 .32 Short]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer fires his Smith & Wesson Model 2 along with his men.]]

==Colt 1860 Army==
A [[Colt 1860 Army]] is seen on the cover
[[Image:1860Army.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt 1860 Army - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai unknown revolver.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army officer holds the 1860 Army on the cover.]]

==Minié rifle==
A variant of the Minié muzzle-loaded rifle is the backbone of early armies.
[[File:Pattern1853Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Minié muzzle-loaded rifle.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08 00004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rifleman aims his Minié rifle.]]

==Snider-Enfield rifle==
The British [[Snider-Enfield Rifle]] is used by more elite troops.
[[File:Nepalese Snider.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Snider-Enfield breech-loaded rifle.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08_00002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royal Marines and their Snider-Enfield rifles.]]

==Spencer repeating rifle==
The American Spencer repeating rifle is used by the Tosa Riflemen and some Cavalry units.
[[File:Spencer-rifle.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Spencer repeating rifle.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08_00001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tosa Riflemen and their Spencer repeating rifles.]]

==Chassepot 1866 bolt action rifle==
French [[Chassepot 1866]] rifle is the main rifle of the game and is common to see with troops.
[[File:Chassepot rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chassepot bolt action rifle.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Riflemen fire their Chassepot 1866.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai rifle 2 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Different riflemen attempt to repel an attack by horseback archers with their Chassepots.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08 00003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|French Marines marching with their Chassepots.]]

==Gatling Gun==
The [[Gatling Gun]] is also in the game, serving as a lethal weapon against cavalry units.
[[Image:Gatling_gun_1865.jpg|thumb|none|300px|British M1865 Gatling Gun at the Royal Artillery Museum - .58 Rimfire / .50-70]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai Gatling 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Gatling Gun crew fires the weapon at approaching Samurai.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai gatling 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another Gatling gun opens up on a large group of cavalry.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai gatling 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A large group of Gatling guns sit in waiting.]]

==Armstrong gun==
The standard artillery piece in the game is the Armstrong Gun.
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai armstrong gun 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A gun crew covers their ears after firing the Armstrong Gun.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai armstrong gun 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another crew reloads their Armstrong Gun.]]

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[[Category:War]]

Total War: Shogun 2

2016-03-08T19:20:46Z

MaxRavenclaw: /* Total War: Shogun 2 — Fall of the Samurai */

[[File:TWS2.JPG|300px|thumb|right|''Total War: Shotgun 2'']]
{{Game Title}}
__TOC__<br clear=all>
=Total War: Shogun 2=
== Tanegashima ==
The main gun you'll see in the game is the [[Tanegashima]], a Japanese matchlock arquebus. This gun is the only Japanese firearm made for the next couple of centuries and is used by the in-game Ashigaru units as well as Portuguese Missionaries.
[[Image:TanegashimaGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Japanese "Tanegashima" matchlock arquebus.]]
[[File:TWS21.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Three Ashigaru troops stand ready, Tanegashimas in hand.]]
[[File:TWS22.jpg|600px|thumb|none|A line of Ashigaru troops volley fire their Tanegashimas.]]
[[File:TWS23.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Portuguese missionaries also use their own matchlock muskets.]]

=Total War: Shogun 2 — Fall of the Samurai=
'''''Total War: Shogun 2 — Fall of the Samurai''''' is an expansion pack for the game that sets it in the late 1800's and adds quite a lot of firearms to the game.
==Smith & Wesson Model 2==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 2]] is added with this expansion pack and usually seen with officers.
[[Image:S&wmodel2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 2 .32 Short]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer fires his Smith & Wesson Model 2 along with his men.]]

==Colt 1860 Army==
A [[Colt 1860 Army]] is seen on the cover
[[Image:1860Army.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt 1860 Army - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai unknown revolver.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army officer holds the 1860 Army on the cover.]]

==Minié rifle==
A variant of the Minié muzzle-loaded rifle is the backbone of early armies.
[[File:Pattern1853Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Minié muzzle-loaded rifle.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08 00004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rifleman aims his Minié rifle.]]

==Snider-Enfield rifle==
The British [[Snider-Enfield Rifle]] breech-loaded rifle is used by more elite troops.
[[File:Nepalese Snider.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Snider-Enfield breech-loaded rifle.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08_00002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royal Marines and their Snider-Enfield rifles.]]

==Spencer repeating rifle==
The American Spencer repeating rifle is used by the Tosa Riflemen and some Cavalry units.
[[File:Spencer-rifle.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Spencer repeating rifle.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08_00001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tosa Riflemen and their Spencer repeating rifles.]]

==Chassepot 1866 bolt action rifle==
French [[Chassepot 1866]] rifle is the main rifle of the game and is common to see with troops.
[[File:Chassepot rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chassepot bolt action rifle.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Riflemen fire their Chassepot 1866.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai rifle 2 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Different riflemen attempt to repel an attack by horseback archers with their Chassepots.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08 00003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|French Marines marching with their Chassepots.]]

==Gatling Gun==
The [[Gatling Gun]] is also in the game, serving as a lethal weapon against cavalry units.
[[Image:Gatling_gun_1865.jpg|thumb|none|300px|British M1865 Gatling Gun at the Royal Artillery Museum - .58 Rimfire / .50-70]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai Gatling 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Gatling Gun crew fires the weapon at approaching Samurai.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai gatling 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another Gatling gun opens up on a large group of cavalry.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai gatling 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A large group of Gatling guns sit in waiting.]]

==Armstrong gun==
The standard artillery piece in the game is the Armstrong Gun.
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai armstrong gun 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A gun crew covers their ears after firing the Armstrong Gun.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai armstrong gun 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another crew reloads their Armstrong Gun.]]

[[Category:Video Game]]
[[Category:War]]

File:2016-03-08 00001.jpg

2016-03-08T19:18:22Z

MaxRavenclaw:

File:Spencer-rifle.JPG

2016-03-08T19:17:58Z

MaxRavenclaw:

File:2016-03-08 00002.jpg

2016-03-08T19:15:46Z

MaxRavenclaw:

File:Nepalese Snider.jpg

2016-03-08T19:14:19Z

MaxRavenclaw:

File:2016-03-08 00004.jpg

2016-03-08T19:13:15Z

MaxRavenclaw:

File:Pattern1853Rifle.jpg

2016-03-08T19:12:11Z

MaxRavenclaw:

Total War: Shogun 2

2016-03-08T19:05:06Z

MaxRavenclaw: /* Chassepot 1866 bolt action rifle */ added an image

[[File:TWS2.JPG|300px|thumb|right|''Total War: Shotgun 2'']]
{{Game Title}}
__TOC__<br clear=all>
=Total War: Shogun 2=
== Tanegashima ==
The main gun you'll see in the game is the [[Tanegashima]], a Japanese matchlock arquebus. This gun is the only Japanese firearm made for the next couple of centuries and is used by the in-game Ashigaru units as well as Portuguese Missionaries.
[[Image:TanegashimaGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Japanese "Tanegashima" matchlock arquebus.]]
[[File:TWS21.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Three Ashigaru troops stand ready, Tanegashimas in hand.]]
[[File:TWS22.jpg|600px|thumb|none|A line of Ashigaru troops volley fire their Tanegashimas.]]
[[File:TWS23.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Portuguese missionaries also use their own matchlock muskets.]]

=Total War: Shogun 2 — Fall of the Samurai=
'''''Total War: Shogun 2 — Fall of the Samurai''''' is an expansion pack for the game that sets it in the late 1800's and adds quite a lot of firearms to the game.
==Smith & Wesson Model 2==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 2]] is added with this expansion pack and usually seen with officers.
[[Image:S&wmodel2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 2 .32 Short]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer fires his Smith & Wesson Model 2 along with his men.]]

==Colt 1860 Army==
A [[Colt 1860 Army]] is seen on the cover
[[Image:1860Army.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt 1860 Army - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai unknown revolver.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army officer holds the 1860 Army on the cover.]]

==Chassepot 1866 bolt action rifle==
French [[Chassepot 1866]] rifle is the main rifle of the game and is common to see with troops.
[[File:Chassepot rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chassepot bolt action rifle.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Riflemen fire their Chassepot 1866.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai rifle 2 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Different riflemen attempt to repel an attack by horseback archers with their Chassepots.]]
[[Image:2016-03-08 00003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|French Marines marching with their Chassepots.]]

==Gatling Gun==
The [[Gatling Gun]] is also in the game, serving as a lethal weapon against cavalry units.
[[Image:Gatling_gun_1865.jpg|thumb|none|300px|British M1865 Gatling Gun at the Royal Artillery Museum - .58 Rimfire / .50-70]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai Gatling 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Gatling Gun crew fires the weapon at approaching Samurai.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai gatling 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another Gatling gun opens up on a large group of cavalry.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai gatling 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A large group of Gatling guns sit in waiting.]]

==Armstrong gun==
The standard artillery piece in the game is the Armstrong Gun.
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai armstrong gun 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A gun crew covers their ears after firing the Armstrong Gun.]]
[[Image:Fall of the Samurai armstrong gun 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another crew reloads their Armstrong Gun.]]

[[Category:Video Game]]
[[Category:War]]

File:2016-03-08 00003.jpg

2016-03-08T19:04:09Z

MaxRavenclaw:

Talk:Total War: Shogun 2

2014-09-27T08:17:27Z

MaxRavenclaw: /* I did some research. These are the real weapons in the game. */

The main game has only 1 eligible firearm for this wiki. The ''Rise of the Samurai'' expansion pack being, set centuries earlier, has none. The ''Fall of the Samurai'', being set in the 19th century, has the majority of eligible firearms--to save space, shouldn't this expansion pack and the main game be covered together, with redirects for ''Fall of the Samurai'' being sent to the main ''Total War: Shogun 2'' page? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 20:42, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
:Expansion packs don't get their own pages. But if it doesn't have any guns to begin with, it's a moot point. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:51, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
I see, but still, this will likely be one of the few games on this wiki where the expansion pack has more eligible guns than the original game! Please make sure the redirects get taken care of, though.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 21:49, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== Unknown revolver ==

The unknown revolver looks like either a [[Colt 1860 Army]] or Colt 1861 Navy to me, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:58, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== Rifle ID ==

I don't think the rifle is a Thouvenin. This is a type of action rather than a specific rifle, where there is a protrusion from the back of the chamber which the bullet is rammed against to deform it so that it fills the barrel (precursor to the Minié ball). By deffinition these are muzzle loading weapons with a percussion cap type lock, whereas this appears to be a bolt action. It is hard to tell as only the left side is shown, but i believe it could be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chassepot Chassepot], it has matching cleaning rod, rear sight and barrel bands, and it looks like the back of the bolt is the same. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:08, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== I did some research. These are the real weapons in the game. ==

I dug around the .pack files and the internet and this is what I figured out.
Here are some renders from the guy who did the models for the game: http://www.tiflos.com/2012/05/30/total-war-shogun-2-fall-of-the-samurai/
By relating the data I extracted form the pack files with the render pictures from that site and confirming the validity of the weapon on the net this is my final conclusion.

1. Minnie Rifle.
In file it's ID is boshin_minnie and minnie_b (Bayonet version). Not sure which Minnie rifle though.

2. Spencer Repeating Rifle (ID: boshin_spencer). This one is used by Carabine Cav and Tosa Riflemen, although the Tosa Riflemen use muzzle loading animation in the older patches. I heard that was fixed in the later patches. The mod I used didn't fix it so I fixed it myself.

3. Cassepot Rifle (boshin_chassepot, chassepot_b). Used by Japanese Elite Infantry (Shogunate/Imperial/Republican Guard Inf) and French Infanterie de Marine.

4. British Snider-Enfield Breechloader (boshin_snider, snider_b). Used by Royal Marines and some line infantry (at least in my mod). But the line has the same problem as the Tosa Riflemen: muzzle-loading a breech-loader.

5. Colt? The Revolvers are ID-ed boshin_colt. So I'm guessing it's a Colt. Need further research.

I'll leave this here for a while, see if anyone responds. If no one does, I'll edit the main article myself. Although I'd prefer if a more experienced user did it.
Is it OK if I use the renders form the site I provided or should I add screenshots from the game? Can I use both?

Talk:Total War: Shogun 2

2014-09-27T08:17:09Z

MaxRavenclaw: /* I did some research. These are the real weapons in the game. */ new section

The main game has only 1 eligible firearm for this wiki. The ''Rise of the Samurai'' expansion pack being, set centuries earlier, has none. The ''Fall of the Samurai'', being set in the 19th century, has the majority of eligible firearms--to save space, shouldn't this expansion pack and the main game be covered together, with redirects for ''Fall of the Samurai'' being sent to the main ''Total War: Shogun 2'' page? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 20:42, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
:Expansion packs don't get their own pages. But if it doesn't have any guns to begin with, it's a moot point. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:51, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
I see, but still, this will likely be one of the few games on this wiki where the expansion pack has more eligible guns than the original game! Please make sure the redirects get taken care of, though.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 21:49, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== Unknown revolver ==

The unknown revolver looks like either a [[Colt 1860 Army]] or Colt 1861 Navy to me, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:58, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== Rifle ID ==

I don't think the rifle is a Thouvenin. This is a type of action rather than a specific rifle, where there is a protrusion from the back of the chamber which the bullet is rammed against to deform it so that it fills the barrel (precursor to the Minié ball). By deffinition these are muzzle loading weapons with a percussion cap type lock, whereas this appears to be a bolt action. It is hard to tell as only the left side is shown, but i believe it could be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chassepot Chassepot], it has matching cleaning rod, rear sight and barrel bands, and it looks like the back of the bolt is the same. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:08, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== I did some research. These are the real weapons in the game. ==

I dug around the .pack files and the internet and this is what I figured out.
Here are some renders from the guy who did the models for the game: http://www.tiflos.com/2012/05/30/total-war-shogun-2-fall-of-the-samurai/
By relating the data I extracted form the pack files with the render pictures from that site and confirming the validity of the weapon on the net this is my final conclusion.

1. Minnie Rifle.
In file it's ID is boshin_minnie and minnie_b (Bayonet version). Not sure which Minnie rifle though.
2. Spencer Repeating Rifle (ID: boshin_spencer). This one is used by Carabine Cav and Tosa Riflemen, although the Tosa Riflemen use muzzle loading animation in the older patches. I heard that was fixed in the later patches. The mod I used didn't fix it so I fixed it myself.
3. Cassepot Rifle (boshin_chassepot, chassepot_b). Used by Japanese Elite Infantry (Shogunate/Imperial/Republican Guard Inf) and French Infanterie de Marine.
4. British Snider-Enfield Breechloader (boshin_snider, snider_b). Used by Royal Marines and some line infantry (at least in my mod). But the line has the same problem as the Tosa Riflemen: muzzle-loading a breech-loader.
5. Colt? The Revolvers are ID-ed boshin_colt. So I'm guessing it's a Colt. Need further research.

I'll leave this here for a while, see if anyone responds. If no one does, I'll edit the main article myself. Although I'd prefer if a more experienced user did it.
Is it OK if I use the renders form the site I provided or should I add screenshots from the game? Can I use both?