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Most of my uploaded firearms pics were photographed by me and thus offered for use by IMFDB with my permission.

BTW: Please IDENTIFY yourself when you leave a message. I shouldn't have to sleuth your identity through the Wiki/History page to figure out who asked what. ;) Thanks.

==NO REQUESTS==

'''I am copying this announcement from my User Page. So if you want a photo of a specific gun, don't ask me. I photograph what I can, when I can. Any new requests will be deleted and not answered. Thanks. MPM2008'''

==NEW RULE==
I appreciate input and questions from new members. But new members SHOULD list their age and what country they are from. It really helps me formulate an appropriate response. I don't want to sound like a jerk when I assume that you're an adult and you're an American, when and if you are not. Thanks for your cooperation.

== Fictional gun names ==
I changed them back, but using quotations to denote fictional looks unprofessional, the second you read sentance one of any of these you can tell it's fictional. Maybe put (fictional firearm) at the end of each title. But I digress --[[User:jonatheng|jonatheng]]

== AMT Automag ==
I created a new page for the AMT Automag as the Automag III and Automag IV are completely separate designs than the .357 Auto Mag pistol that I have had the luck to be able to examine. Also AMT was never involved in manufacturing the origional Auto Mag pistol. Basically they were useing the name for marketing purposes. I'm just giving my reasoning. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 18:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

As I don't have an form of Automag to examine again in person(of the three different models I have examined two were of questionable origin and the third was out of my pricerange). I have been looking up both the Auto mag and the AMT Automag Models. The Automag Mosels look to be based on Longslide M1911s rather than the AMC Automag. If you look at the control layout the AMC model and the AMT Models have vastly differety control setups.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Sentinel Arms Stryker==
Dear Sir,
I was wondering if you had any information about the Sentinel Arms Stryker that is shown on the Desparado page. I know it's an Armsel Striker varient but I don't know enough about it to say anything about it on the Armsel striker page. I've also seen a Striker Varient made by Penn Arms and i want to know what the differance is. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Wesley's Beretta==
Hi, I am requesting a picture of Wesley's Beretta 92S used in Wanted (2008). If you don't mind.[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==US Navy Mark 12 MOD X Special Purpose Rifle==
Hi I was referred by MT2008 that you may have access to a MK 12 SPR or a similar weapon. If you have access to an image to add to the Mk 12 SPR section of the M16 page that would be appreciated. The current image has a watermark and is a graphic from somewhere and probably copyrighted so It would be cool if that image could be replaced. thanks, -[[User:AdAstra2009]]

Well thanks for looking into it, I appreciate it -[[User:AdAstra2009]]

: Check with Mike he has them in inventory. -[[User:Phoenixent |Steve]] 06:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==YES!==

Thank you SO much! Those look great, and actually, they look very close to the ones that have appeared in quite a few movies. We can start replacing the two-tone SIG pics that we have on our other pages with these immediately! Again, I ''greatly'' appreciate you doing this for me. How will I ever repay you?

Out of curiosity, since you told me that they usually don't fit, how did you make them work together? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re: MP5A5==

Huh, that's interesting. I always figured Stembridge would have mostly -90 series guns that looked just like those "MP5s" that appear in so many productions they've rented to. Any idea why those HK94s were never converted further to make them look like more realistic MP5s? As my ''[[Air Force One]]'' page shows, Stembridge basically left those guns as-is well into the 1990s.

Thanks for the MP5A5 picture...I was actually close to replacing it myself (albeit with something from a Google image search). And yes, I'm sure more people than me appreciate them! At least, I hope so. You're pretty much the most important person we've got when it comes to gun images. I mean, how many sites out there get to have pictures of the same prop weapons used in many films?

==Thanks for the new pictures==

You've uploaded a lot of good pictures recently...I especially like the S&W 4506 and the SIG P220 Sport (is that the one from Cinema Weaponry that's appeared in several movies?) I thought of taking a picture of my own personal 4506 for a while, but gave up because I knew I couldn't take one as good as what you could do. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Thanks for the pics, they are great- Beeteles

==One other thing...==

I know I keep asking for stuff from you lately, but this time it's talk only.

I just finished working on the ''[[Air Force One]]'' page for this site. That movie features some type of short-barreled AK which looks just like the one from ''[[True Lies]]''. Here's a picture:

[[Image:AFO-shortyAK-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

The next time you talk to Harry Lu, would you mind asking him what these guns are and who owns them (Stembridge?) Thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:==

The new pictures are really cool, as usual. I especially love the M16A1 with A2 handguards picture, because there are a lot of Hollywood movies featuring guns with that config, and it's great that we now have a picture to prove to our visitors how you sneaky armorers have deceived so many of us common folk action movie fans with those fake M16A2s! Haha, just kidding. Anyway, how did you get your hands on a Diemaco? Remember Al Vrkljan, the Canadian armorer who helped me out on ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)]]''? He told me that Diemaco/Colt Canada wouldn't sell any of their guns to his company or any civilian companies, so where did it come from?

Also, you brought up an interesting point on the ''[[American Gun (2006)]]'' page...as an armorer who works in the film industry, how do you feel about the anti-gun attitudes that seem so prevalent in Hollywood? Does it ever frustrate you and make you not want to rent your guns out to people who are so overtly anti-RKBA? I've always wondered how armorers feel about the people they work with.

Appreciate the effort on the Type 84 and two-tone P226 pics. Whenever you get a chance!

== Oh, yes, and one other request...==

I have another request, this one a bit more unusual. I recently did a page for ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]'', which features a two-tone SIG P226 of West German manufacture that has a stainless frame and a regular black slide and barrel. It looks like the armorer just combined two existing guns to make it (since the two-tone P226s usually have black frame and stainless slide), and I'd love to have a picture of something identical for my page. So if you ever get out those two P226s that you photographed for IMFDB back in June, do you mind combining this:

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]]

..and this...

[[Image:SigP226Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]]

...to make this?

[[Image:2F2F-P226-10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:2F2F-P226-13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

...and then taking a picture of it for me? Also, if you put the slide and barrel from the stainless P226 on the frame of the black P226, you'd have a gun identical to the one from ''[[Face/Off]]'' which we could use for that page.

:Now THAT is news to me. I'm really surprised...finishes really make the fit of the parts THAT difficult? Wow. I don't think the gun above is a factory job because the two-tone P226s that SIG has sold are always black frame and stainless slide, not the other way around. Do you by chance know who supplied the weapons for ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]''?

:Thanks for the info, as always.

==Re: Back for a bit==

I do think you're right and that there are some SKS rifles in ''[[Platoon]]'' (which may or may not be Chinese Type 56 copies, for all I know). I own that movie on DVD, so as soon as I get back to my place, I'm gonna have to pop it in my laptop and watch again to be sure. Also, thanks for backing me up on the CAR-15 variants in the film - I was pretty sure they were 653s, and I know that particular model was exported in large numbers to U.S. allies during the 1970s (if you ever check out any Arab-Israeli war photos from the news, even today, you'll see many IDF personnel using them).

I was also suspicious of the "MAC-9" page, because I have never heard of that variant. On the other hand, I had no idea that the 9mm variant of the MAC-10 was called the "MAC-10/9"; I've usually just heard it referred to as a MAC-10. I figure "MAC-9" was just somebody butchering the spelling of "M11/9", which has appeared in lots of movies (I made the entry for that gun under the MAC-10 page myself, though someone else put down - inaccurately - that it was used in ''[[Blue Streak]]'').

Sorry to hear Josh Brolin broke a gun...indeed, how DO you bend a trigger guard? Then again, he's had some issues with the law lately, so maybe it's not too surprising. What film is he working on that required him to carry a Police Chief Special, anyway? Some period piece, I take it? I don't know how frustrating it is to be an armorer, but I can imagine...I mean, if you've rented out dozens of guns to one production, doesn't that make you lose your nerve to think how much those guns must be getting tossed around, even with armorers on-set to supervise their use? Also, remember when you sent me that picture of guns to ID from your vault? How many did I get right?

That's cool if you can get a picture of a Chinese Tokarev. Later. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Long-barreled AK under-folder==

Here is the gun from ''[[The X-Files]]'' I mentioned to you. Found these on a fan site for the show. They're not great quality, but you can see it pretty well:

[[Image:X-files-Type84-4.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84-3.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84-2.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84.jpg|thumb|800px|none|(This one is from a different episode)]]

It's clearly an under-folder, it has a long barrel, but it also has what appears to be a .223 mag. And it seems to have a hooded front sight in the first pic. Any idea what this might be? It's appeared in several episodes of the show from a couple of seasons, and I always thought it was a Type 84 under-folder fitted with the barrel from an RPK clone. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Mike Sudrow is listed on IMDB as having worked on a few episodes of ''[[The X-Files]]''. Since the show lasted so long (nine years), I imagine they probably had many, many different armorers depending on the season/filming location.

::As far as Canadian armorers go, Al Vrkljan of Movie Armaments Group was on here a couple months ago. He corrected me on the ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)|Incredible Hulk]]'' page by telling me that, interestingly enough, Diemaco/Colt Canada won't sell its weapons to film armorers in Canada! He also told me more about those mystery grenade launchers we were discussing earlier, plus he updated the page with more guns that I had missed. I really hope he comes back; he said he might be able to get some pictures of the launchers for us.

==Re:Re:Sahara==
As far as the source goes, I believe Crowntower Limited supplied the weapons that were used in ''[[Sahara]]''. I say that based on a couple of deductions: Sascha Robey was one of the armorers who worked on ''[[Casino Royale]]'' as well as ''[[Sahara]]'', Crowntower is listed in the credits of ''[[Casino Royale]]'' (but not ''[[Sahara]]'') as the weapons supplier, and finally, if you look at our ''[[Casino Royale]]'' page, the AKs in that film top look identical to the one in ''[[Sahara]]'' that we were talking about. Perhaps this Sascha Robey rented the same guns for two films.

:OK, you know what? My eyes ''do'' suck! I just stood way, way back from my monitor and squinted, and now I see that it's not a hooded Norinco sight; it's just the angle makes it appear circular. You are right; it can't be a Type 84, or anything that uses Type 84 parts. And I'm guessing that also means I could be wrong about the ''[[Casino Royale]]'' AKs, too.

:It's kinda strange, though...I wouldn't have figured British armorers would use civilian AK variants that were essentially geared towards the U.S. firearms market.

==RE:==

First of all, cheers for the update on the Type 84 picture. There's no hurry; I understand if it takes a while to get the appropriate mags (since obviously, a Type 84 doesn't look very different from a Type 56 without them).

Second, while I don't speak for everyone on here, I can say that I personally do not have any problem with you replacing pictures of guns on this site (even those that I uploaded) with any that you took. Nor do I see why anyone else would. The only reason I can imagine anyone getting offended would be if they went to the same effort you do to get the guns and photograph them on their own. But pretty much everyone else on here just uploads pictures they copied from other gun sites, in some cases ''airsoft'' web sites (like that picture we used to have of the SP89, which was just an airsoft MP5K fitted with an SP89 handguard from DenTrinity; terrible!). And it doesn't take much time or effort to copy and upload someone else's work.

Additionally, your gun photos are obviously of superior quality to anything else on here, and they're of guns that have actually appeared in movies (possibly the same movies as the pages they're on), so as far as I am concerned, there really isn't any reason why we can't replace any existing photos of guns with the ones you've taken. In fact, I would encourage you to ''not'' be so timid in the future when it comes to replacing photos. If you want an example of what I mean by this, take a look at the [[Armalite AR-18]] page. Your AR-18 picture is way better than any of those on the page, so I don't see any reason why you can't just remove some of the others (maybe keep ONE of the other photos of the gun with the scope, and even that could be replaced if you took an equivalent picture).

One thing I will point out, though: I have sometimes used pictures on my pages that are from the web site of Rick Washburn's company Weapons Specialists, Inc. (http://www.weaponspecialists.com/index.php). They provided the guns for ''[[I Am Legend]]'', so the page for that movie now features pictures of the guns used in the film that I copied and uploaded from them (including the tan-framed Mark 23). In cases like that, I'd prefer those particular photos stay up (you'll know them because I always provide links and info mentioning where they're from) because they feature the actual movie guns, and they're decent quality. Besides that, I don't have any problem with you replacing any and all photos of guns on this site with yours.

==Chinese Type 56==

First of all, I GREATLY appreciate the photo you took of one of the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' AKs for me. I didn't know you had access to any British armories?

However, I have one question: Do you think it's really appropriate to classify the Chinese Type 56 rifles with stamped receivers as "AK-47" and "AKS-47" clones, as opposed to AKM/AKMS derivatives? I realize that the Type 56s with stamped receivers lack just about all of the other features of the AKMs (including the muzzle break, ribbed receiver cover, rate reducer, grip rails, narrower front sight, etc.), but I've usually heard them described as AKM copies simply to distinguish them from the earlier milled-receiver versions. I know this is an over-simplification of sorts because the Type 56s aren't really orthodox AK-47s or AKMs (they're more like a weird hybrid version), but I figured it would be more appropriate.

:Well, I would say I know the differences between the two. I must point out that I own a Chinese AK (mine was imported by Golden State Arms and simply has 'AK47S 7.62x39mm - Made in China' stamped on the receiver). I was simply curious whether the presence of a stamped receiver on the Type 56 made it worthy of being designated an AKM variant or not.

:Personally, I think the best bet might be to literally just create a new sub-entry for the Type 56 under the [[AK-47]] page and then we can focus on finding any and all movies that feature the Type 56 and putting them under there. This would reflect best the fact that the Type 56 is sort of a weird hybrid AK-47/AKM with distinctly Chinese characteristics (such as the hooded front sight), which most other AK derivatives (like the Maadis) don't have.

::Haha, no offense taken, just wanted you to know I'm not a complete newbie when it comes to AKs, though obviously you completely blow me out of the water. Anyway, I would definitely appreciate the Type 84 pic whenever you get a chance. Not sure if there's anything else I need at the moment...but I would strongly encourage you to just take pictures of whatever you can get your hands on. As I've said, it's really great that we have you because this site is full of pictures that are copied from sites like world.guns.ru or (in some cases) AIRSOFT websites (i.e. the SP89 picture that we used to have before I replaced it).

::BTW, these are some incredible pics you've gotten us lately, moreso than usual. How on earth did you get that Romanian AIMS from "44 Minutes"? Do you know Thell Reed, too? Also, I'm going to do a LITTLE bit of additional work on the [[AK-47#Type 56|Type 56]] entry, and I think I'm also gonna ditch the AKS-47 one for now (simply because there don't seem to be any movies I'm aware of that have actual milled-receiver Russian AKS-47s or close copies) and move all the Type 56-1 entires down. If you disagree, you can revert (or partially modify) the edits and I won't mind. Also, good work on the [[RPG-7]] article getting the Type 69 mentioned (it's something I wanted to do myself - mostly because "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" also has a Type 69).

==Re: Editing Dogs of War==

Thanks for the info. I've seen those guns in a whole bunch of movies and I always wondered what they were, who made them, and why. I think they've also appeared in a couple episodes of ''[[The A-Team]]'' and a Chuck Norris movie or two.

I have some great screenshots of the fake Uzis which I took for my ''[[Raw Deal]]'' page (I've been meaning to work on it for ages, but so far, I just never have managed to get around to it). Here they are:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-59410.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

[[Image:Vlcsnap-59747.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

== Re: image ==

Sorry for the mixup. Feel free to replace the image with a better one if you have one handy. It's good to have a professional armourer on the site to help out, you've been doing some good work so far. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 10:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

Sure, you can re-post the CZ99 pic. It isn't "mine"; I took it from world.guns.ru, which is where many of the photographs of guns on this site come from (as you can imagine, that's why I'm happy to have someone like you who is willing to give us original photos, especially when they're of actual movie guns)

== Hey ==

Hey MoviePropMaster, I'm Alienqueen11, and I seen the images you have uploaded, and they're great. I also want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload a picture of a [[Remington 870]] with Ghost Ring Sights and a High Capacity Tube like the one in the screenshot below for the [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] page, I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for complitementing my knowledge on guns, I also reverted a version of one of your MP5 pictures because someone copied over it with an airsoft image, I really wish some people would checked the thing while they're uploading an image to make sure the name isn't already used to avoid mistakes like this. And once again, thanks for your contributions and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11.

== Heartbreak Ridge M16's ==

I just saw ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' on TV this afternoon, and all the [[M16 rifle series|M16]]'s I saw on-screen were the A1 variant, complete with bolt-forward assist buttons at the rear of the upper recievers. Even saw one fitted with an [[M203 grenade launcher]] used by one of the Recon Marines under Gunnery Sergeant Highway's command.

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904
- He might want to look at my page and see they weren't ''all'' M16A1s.

==Question==
[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]: Hi, I was just wondering how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect? My other question is that on the [[Hollow Point]] page I made recently, did I get the AK varient right? I figured I'd ask you as you seem to be the AK pro on the site. Thanks.
(My list of pages is on my profile if you feel like checking any of my other work as well.)

==M14 rifle==
I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great, is there any chance you could take some good shots? The pictures now are blurry, or black and white.

==37mm Launcher==
Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM

::I built the colt launcher page based on what MT said, but your input greatly helped it. It's a shame taking professional pictures is so complex. The best I have is photoshop and an erase brush. I have a Norinco Type 54 pistol and I wanted to put pictures of it on the site soon. I'm not bad with editing, it should come out okay. I just need to find the time to do it. The M14 rifle pics came out great, let me know if you get your hands on an M21. I'll have plenty of films to be corrected in the future, my to do list touches the sky. One or two every friday or saturday. Stay cool. -GM

==Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon"==
:Here's a tricky task, do you think you could find a Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon"? Aparently it is what John Practice uses in [[Last Action Hero]] according to user input, and I can't find a good picture of it. Until I do find a good picture, I'll have to keep my horrible AR-24 picture I had on their before. If it isn't a Bren 10 PF, I'd assume you of all people would shoot me straight.
[[Image:StarMegastarLastActionHero.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the picture of him with the Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon". His is a tutone model, but I'm not that picky. If both can be had, it would make a nice page in the Bren 10 gun section.]]
==M1911/M1911A1==
::I apoligize for asking one more thing of you, but the M1911 and M1911A1 pistols are infamous works of art in the firearms world, commonly used in films. We got a repro M1911 picture (modernized), a Springfield M1911A1 (when Colt M1911A1 is the genuine picture desired), another M1911A1 with pachmyr grips (better than springfield, but see how it sticks out on Platoon? It's ''too'' modern) So is their any chance you could find a genuine (or prefered, an ''authentic'' reproduction) of a Colt M1911 and Colt M1911A1 to snap some shots of, that would be awesome. I trust you know them apart, your a pro. Thanks. Good luck. -GM

==Re:Last Action Hero==
I saw [[Last Action Hero]] when I was young and loved it. Now, it is still one of my favorites. I like how it makes fun of action movies, by showing how Arnold can fire a billion rounds from a Desert Eagle and cars just explode for no reason. I'll fix those problems you mentioned. Your saying they are more likely civilian TEC-9s instead of TEC-DC9's? What physical traits help determine this, just the sling? And they were firing full-auto so they were probably converted.

== Hi! ==

Still no replacement grip for the M70?

Shame, it looks strange with that grip - I'm used to seeing them on M76s and M72s... which reminds me: about that mystery long barreled AK - I know that Crvena Zastava makes under-folder RPKs, namely the M72A (7.62 - based on M70), and the M90A (5.56 - based on an assault rifle of the same designation). The under-folder RPKs (those with an "A") have removable bipods (the standard, solid-stock ones have fixed), so w/ the folding stocks and w/o bipods they would look like those mystery AKs, no? Also, one more improtant fact: unlike the Yugo AKs (which have 3 holes), the Yugo RPKs have TWO holes in the forward grip (like the original AKs). http://pookieweb.dyndns.org:61129/Yugo/pics/m72a.jpg

I hope this was hepful, keep up the good work!

== Request ==

I'm sorry to ask, but if you get the chance, can you upload a [[Beretta M92F|Beretta M92FS]]? I know the ones on the site are already good enough, but I want to see how great one by you would be. I know you're already busy, so don't do it if you're too busy, and if you can't upload it, it's okay. Anyway, welcome back, the new pictures for the M16 and M14 are great. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== RE:870 ==

I think you're right about the Mossberg sights on the 870, they seem to match those on the Mossberg more then anything.

Here the picture I had on the page when I thought his shotgun was a Mossberg 500:
[[Image:Mossberg500.gif|thumb|none|335px|[[Mossberg 500]] 12 ga. with optional ghost ring sights.]]

And this is the image I have on the page now, seeing it now, they look nothing like the sights in the screencap:
[[Image:870p.jpg|thumb|none|335px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with magazine extention tube and ghost ring sights.]]

And it looks like the armorer must have put the Mossberg sights on the Remington:
[[Image:DotD Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

Hope this helps, and thanks for the favor, I appreciate it. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Done ==

Don't worry, he won't be able to edit again, if it happens again, I'll be sure to make so only registered users can edit the [[Commando]] page. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==Karabiner 98k sniper rifle==
:I recently noticed while working on the [[Saving Private Ryan]] page that we have no sniper rifle varient Kar98k rifle pic. I've noticed you [[Enemy at the Gates]] page is in need of this picture as well too. I apoligize for adding yet another gun to your to-do list but just let me know if you find one. -GM45

==Re: FINALLY==

Excellent! I already have a use for the 870 folder, too - just put it on the ''[[RoboCop]]'' page (which features an identical weapon). And thanks for the UMP-45 and the Gen 2 Glock-17 as well! There are so many movies that feature Gen 2 Glocks, yet all we have is that stock picture of a Gen 3. When I get back to my place later today, I'm going to start using your Glock in every movie page that features such a gun.

Also...that AR15A2 you photographed; can we consider it an M16A2? Is it converted to auto or burst? We really need a good M16A2 picture, because the one that appears throughout the site is yet another crappy airsoft picture.

==RE:==

Hmmm, I'll have to see. There's lots of loose women and great beer over here in Texas that I ''might'' be able to offer you, but the gold's gonna be hard to come by! Haha.

Thanks yet AGAIN for the improved two-tone P226 picture. Weirdly enough, I completely failed to notice that the one in ''[[Face/Off]]'' had a silver hammer until you pointed it out. But it's great that you have a better eye for detail than I do, and moreso that you corrected it. And, of course, thank you for answering my questions about movie guns to the best of your ability. I think your idea for a 12-gauge pump page is perfectly useful, though I must point out that if it can't be categorized, it's gonna be hard for other users to find it. In order to make sure people see it, please add links to it on pages for the shotguns it distinguishes from each other. That would be the best way to make sure your word gets out.

Hope you don't mind, but I've already shown your SIG pics on SIGforum.com to draw attention to our site. I'd show your H&K pictures on HKPRO forum (where I also post), too, if their forum wasn't down every other minute. I dunno if you post on any other gun-related boards, but if you do, show off your pics and point folks to IMFDB. The more attention, the better. We've already got 55,000 views from the ''[[Heat]]'' page (which features your P220 and M16A1 pictures, among others), so spread the word and more people will discover the beauty of IMFDB with its original movie gun pictures, taken by an actual movie armorer!

Oh, yeah, and I will respond to the topic of vandals on Bunni's talk page shortly. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:Dibbs==
Feel free, one less thing for me to do. I only ask that you keep the bow and knife on the page so it fits the other two. I'll eventually add them to [[Rambo (2008)]] so that one fits as well. If anything I'll likely just add some shots like I tend to do. Thanks for asking me and not just doing it. Can't wait to see it. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]
::Almost forgot, MT2008 may have asked already but we really need a Poly Tech Legend AK pic.

:::Nope, I forgot, too! Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad idea. I've been looking for one on Google image search, but no go on any good ones. Also, speaking of AKs (and here I go again making your request list longer), a new AKM pic would be nice. Not to sound unappreciative, but I tend to shy away from the one you took just because the red stock looks out-of-place and ugly, plus the magazine is the plastic type rather than the ribbed type. If you can get a picture of one of the Maadi AKMs with the right stock, plus a metal ribbed-style mag (which is more the "classic" style, if you will)...great. If not, no worries. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:Casino Royale==

Yep, that's the exact same picture I looked up to remind myself what an M76 was. Actually, I think I always thought that the M76 just referred to their long-range rifle, and I didn't remember that their smaller-caliber AKs were called M76. But I did know off the top of my head that it couldn't be Zastava because their full-sized AKs always have the folding GL sight, and the ''[[Casino Royale]]'' AKs don't.

BTW, any idea what's wrong with the [[Taurus PT92]] picture you gave us? I just put it on the page for ''[[The X-Files]]'', and now it's disappeared. A search of the page history indicates no act of vandalism.

Oh, yeah, and one other thing: I never thanked you for getting that Australian Automatic Arms carbine picture for ''[[The Matrix]]'' page. So...thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== DotD 870 ==

I don't mean to bug you, but did you have any luck with the Dawn of the Dead Remington 870, and did the message I sent you about about the sights help at all, please let me know. Also excellent work lately, The new Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 pictures are great, and so are the many other pictures you uploaded lately, I really like the two tone Sig P226s you got for MT2008, those are one of kind. Good luck, and keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:10, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Kelly's Heroes==
I was aware they were using FN BAR type D 8mm guns instead of american .30-06 BARs but I didn't know they were using the wrong mag pouches. Thanks for the info. -GM45

==Re:M1911 pistols==
The 1911 pictures are absolute perfection. The M1911 from 1913 looks great. I have one from 1913 too and yours puts mine to shame. Thanks very much. -GM45

:And thanks for the P38, too! Feel free to just delete the one that's been on the P38 already, and insert your image into any and all movie pages featuring P38s. I've been replacing old gun images on many pages with your new gun images (i.e. the Glock you uploaded earlier in the week). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Re: Beretta M92FS ==

It looks excellent, I don't mind an American made Beretta, an Italian made one isn't too different, is it? If you come across an Italian one in the future, you can upload that, but you don't have to, like I said, I like the new one as it is. Thank you soo much for the favor, you never disappoint.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

==Thanks for the USP!==

I was thinking of asking you for a USP pic, but figured I should hold off on it, just to prevent you from getting bogged down.

As you can tell, we're embarking on a campaign to replace any and all older images of guns taken from other sites, with the pictures you've uploaded. I'm also curious...what would you think of a page dedicated to explaining the importance of your gun images to new users of the site, and featuring examples of your work? It would be linked from the main page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Should cartoons be allowed? ==

I want to know if it is either no one cares about the fact that cartoons like Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and recently South Park had been allowed to this site. I have don't think these pages should exist because do you think about the rare guns that appears on those shows and wonder what they are? Cause I sure don't. I'm too busy laughing my ass off to how funny these series are, not wondering if the shotgun Homer used in the Zombie episode was a Winchester Model 1887 or that it never appeared in any other episode following. I don't care and I dont think anyone else should care. We're getting cartoon fanboys that thinks just because Family Guy has an episode where Stewie has a closet full of look alike guns, means we should write a page about them. Those guns are not the point of the show and the artist that drew them obviously didn't take much consideration for them or mention. I think Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and South Park be removed at once. None of them deserve to be on this site. And whoever puts them here doesn't respect this site enough.
::That's a little harsh. I added some of the info on those pages, thank you. I was eventually going to do the South Park movie, because it does in fact have some pretty obvious guns in it. Personally I think they shouldn't be removed but if they are to stay, someone should take the time to screencap them and show us what they are talking about. -GM45

==Reign of Fire==
I just finished screencapping [[Reign of Fire]] and before I upload them on the page, I wanted to see if you knew what this gun is. Based on what I see I'm assuming it is a .577 Nitro Tyrannosaurus Rex rifle built personally by the Mauser company's greatest gunsmiths based on the Mauser rifle type extractor/bolt release and the Mauser style firing pin striker seen on the gun. At first I thought it was a Model 70 or a Mauser sporterized and then they show what big ass rounds he loads in it so now I just don't know. I figured of all, you'd likely know best. Also, if it is a T-rex rifle, I'd likely need a picture of it because as usual, the internet sucks for finding gun pics. I know this gun is rare but so is the .600 Nitro double barreled rifle, but that is seen in [[The Lost World: Jurassic Park]] despite that. I'm not expecting a picture from you because I know how rare and expensive it is but I figured if it ever came up I could count on you.

Here's the pics:
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|His rifle resting up against the table.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the extractor/bolt release and Mauser style striker.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This scope symbol looks familiar, what brand is this?]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Look at the monstrous rounds he loads it with. Only two fit in the gun! They look like either .577 or .600 Nitro rounds.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|He fires the rifle at the big bull dragon, which does nothing and tosses it away after two shots.]]

Hope you respond soon. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]
::I've decided to upload the movie tommorow to give you more time to respond. -GM

: I didn't expect you'd have one, after all it isn't a mass produced company gun. Major members of the Mauser company make it customly crafted. You'll see it all on the page in a sec. Also, the pic I uploaded I had to edit so it was horizontal and since it had 4 whited corners after turning it, I had to clone the corners in. Once you know, it is far more obvious to tell where I edited.

==Re: New Pics==

What I meant is that I want to make sure people on this site see how thorough you are, and how accurately you match guns to requests. Remember that AR15 Sporter that you visually modified to look like an XM177 from ''[[The Dogs of War]]''? Or the two SIG P226s you made to look the ones in ''[[Face/Off]]'' and ''[[Bad Boys II]]''? Those are the kinds of gun pics that I want to show off to new folks. What I would do is just make a page that briefly explains your contributions, and then shows guns you've photographed and how close they are to those in the movies. This is an unformed idea, I admit, but basically, I want people browsing this sight to understand (1.) That your images are exclusive to IMFDB, and (2.) That they're basically close representations of what those users have seen in movies. I know I'm not being terribly articulate, but do you understand what I mean?

And don't worry about replacing previous pics with your pics. The rest of us will continue to do that for you, as we've been doing. So far, we've pretty much replaced all of the old M16s, M4s, Berettas, Glocks, Kar98s, MP40s, etc. with your guns. I think I'm gonna start putting your USP pic on our pages, too (except those that feature the larger .45 variant of the USP, like ''[[Collateral]]'').-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==AK-47 recognition page==
Now that you've made a Shotgun page, why not make an AK page to tell a Norinco from a Maadi from a genuine, from a poly tech, etc.
Also, maybe an M16 page for slab sides, A1s, A2s, etc.
It would probably help the users out a lot. I'm sure the shotgun page did. Personally, I have trouble telling a Norinco Type 56 aside from its hooded sight. Perhaps a couple of close ups of sight placement, recievers and all that will make me a more efficient I.Der. -GM45

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, MPM2008, I uploaded some more shots of Ving Rhames' shotgun in [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] if you want to take a look, it's in the Custom Remington 870 section of the page. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Hey, MPM2008, do you want me to put protections on your images so no one can revert them if they've been upload over with images from the internet in the past, or upload over them? I'm asking this because some user keeps uploading a crappy picture from the internet over your H&K USP40 image. And if you want, I could ask Bunni to make you a mod or I can take the protections off them whenever you want to edit them or upload a new version of them. Let me know what you want to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Update: I protected all your images, and I also asked Bunni to make you an adminstrator so you can upload new versions of or revert them if want. If you not made an admin right away, just tell me what image you want to access, and I'll unlock it for you. I'm sorry I had to do this, but I wanted to prevent idiots like the guy who kept uploading over your H&K USP40 from changing your pictures, and I promise, if I ever get the ability to block users back, I will undo the protections. See you soon and good luck.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:Made you a mod, enjoy. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 22:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Response ==

Thanks, I will always make sure your images stay the way they are. And I didn't understand that user either, I told him politely a bunch of times to stop, but he wouldn't listen. What really intrigues me most is how somebody could prefer a crappy image they probably found on Google Images over an excellent well photographed image such as yours. As for being a mod, congratulations, but I most warn you that the block function is not working at this time, but Bunni is trying his best to fix it, but you will be able to delete any pages or images you don't want, and you will also be able to protect pages. And if we ever get the ability to block back, that one user is going to be the first on my list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

As for the 870, take as much time as you need to, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait when it's uploaded. I will also have more requests in the future, but I won't bother you with them right now. And I also I have a question, I read your new project pictures thing on your user page, and when you say 870 riot configurations, do mean Remington 870s similar in appearence to the one seen in [[Walking Tall]]? Thanks, and good luck, I can't wait to see any future images you upload.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Update- MPM2008, you are now able to block vandals.

==Re:Special page==

Well, that's fine. But now that you're a mod and your images can be protected, I don't think there's much to worry about. I also think it would just be cool if new users understood right off the bat that IMFDB has essentially its own movie armorer. -MT2008

== Other Request ==

Hey, MPM2008, whenever you get the chance, is there a possiblity you can get me a Beretta 92FS Inox or Stainless model of the Beretta 92FS? Thanks in advance. Also, good work with your recent images, I really like the new Walther P99, I was going to ask for one, but you thought about it before I did. Keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

==Sin City Yellow Bastard's custom 92FS==
YB's Beretta 92FS in [[Sin City]] is a unique blend of a factory black and an Inox model, similair to SIG-Sauer used in 2 fast 2 furious. Since AQ11 just asked for an Inox, if you get your hands on one, do yuo think you could mix the two together. This is the gun in the movie.
[[Image:SC92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note how it has reverse tutone rather than the typical factory style.]]

Thanks -GM45

==Re: Reign of Fire==
Thanks. Take your time on the Ultimax, it isn't a big deal right now. Wiki just made me an Admin. so I'm feeling pretty damn special right now. I'm going to get the Punisher (2004) on today, than I'm finally back on track with my original list. -GM45

=="Non Guns"==

I just made a page for the [["Non Guns"]], and I'm curious to know what you think of it. I don't know a whole lot about them besides what I've read online, whereas I imagine you've probably got some experience with them, since I've heard many armorers rent them for scenes where blanks are unsafe. Any thoughts? Would say the summary I've done at the top of the page is a pretty good description of what they do?

Cheers.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Haha, trust me, I hear you on the "fugly" part. I cringe every time I spot a Non Gun in a movie or TV show, because they're ''soooooo'' fake-looking and too many idiot directors don't even think to film them at angles/lighting conditions where it won't be so obvious what they are. But, like you've said, our goal here is to be educational and informative, and no matter how crappy Non Guns might look, they are still important to the topic of guns in cinema, and that's what we're here for. :) The images are from Weapons Specialists' web site, which apparently subrents them; ISS has their own pictures, but I prefer Weapons Specialists' because theirs don't have the measuring tape above the gun.

:Sorry to hear you've been sick, but don't worry...you never have to apologize for anything. I really like the idea of your "Hello IMFDB!" card and think it would be great for our site. I will, of course, not demand it or anything, but it would be awesome if we had something like that. I agree with the idea of using the IMFDB logo, though if I can think of anything else, I'll tell you. As usual, thanks for all the work you've been doing (for us AND Hollywood), and thanks for the kind words on my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== 2nd-Gen Glock 23 ==

Hey, I was wondering if you could possibly provide an image of a 2nd-Generation [[Glock#Glock 23|Glock 23]] for the article on ''[[The Fugitive]]'', since the image for that weapon on the page is of a 3rd-Generation model with accessory rails on the frame as opposed to the smooth-framed 2nd-Generation model seen in the screenshots? I already edited the [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22]] section similarly for that article and the sequel ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'', and was wondering if you could help me out with that one image so I don't have to chase down an image on Google. Thanks in advance. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:I asked for Second-Generation Glocks, those are 3rd generation (note the accessory rails at the front of the frame). Seeing as someone identified the compact Glock model in the film in question as a Glock 19 it's something of a moot point now. However, a 2nd-Generation [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] image would be appreciated as there's none available here yet and there's several pages here that could benefit from an image of that weapon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

== Get Well Soon ==

Hey MPM2008, I heard you were sick so I wanted to stop by and say get well soon.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

==My man!==

Awesome! The AKM and Type 84 look great; they're just what we needed. It's weird that I haven't been able to find a good picture of a standard fixed-stock Type 84 anywhere; yours might just be one of the best pics of this gun on the entire 'net right now. Question...is the AKM a Maadi, or is some other make? I would like to edit the entry on the AK-47 page to say if it is or not.

I will start phasing out the old pictures and replacing them, although it seems you guys have a head start on me. And thanks for the other new pictures as well - love that new PSG-1, the Uzi Carbine, and of course the "plain" 870 police (which, like you said, was something we REALLY needed). I'm also glad to see you're better, too. Take care. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

(BTW...dunno if you've noticed, but I only discovered this recently; if you hit the " ~ " key four times, it signs your posts automatically so that you don't have to type out your username. I've been using Wikis for several years now and I only just figured that out. Alienqueen discovered this long before I did, but just a heads-up.)

== Great work ==

Thanks for the police 870, it looks excellent. we really needed a standard since so many of the 870s on the site look like that. I'll be sure to replace all the 870s that need to be replaced with that. And also, I'm glad to hear you got better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Pics==

Hi,

First of all, thanks yet again for the new pics! The SR9s are nice, but...I had no idea that some SR9s in movies are actually converted from HK91s? If that's the case, then by all means, you should still go ahead and put down those pics under the SR9 section of the G3 page. But does this also mean that the SR9(T) from ''[[The Replacement Killers]]'' is one of these guns? Again, this is just a huge revelation for me. I still see no reason to put them under the HK91 entry, simply because if they're meant to be SR9s, just as the converted HK94s are meant to be MP5s, then I think it's appropriate to label them as such.

And, thanks for the Type 56 that looks like the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' ones. If you want to shoot it again with the regular non-blued bolt carrier, that's fine by me. However, I should also point out that the ones in ''Goldeneye'' also have red bakelite magazines, so you might wanna give it one of those, too. Then, you'll have something identical to the ''Goldeneye'' "AKS-74s". But I will still use the picture you have in the meantime. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

:Hmmm. Yeah, I guess I figured when I noticed the trigger, but I wasn't sure if the gun from ''[[The Replacement Killers]]'' was genuine or not. Was this sort of thing done because real SR9s were too expensive? I figured since the SR9 used to be a readily available civilian "assault rifle", armorers would use it.

:However, if your guns are a fairly accurate representation of the SR9s that have appeared in movies, then it's better that you've given us images of these particular guns. I agree with you that our goal should be to have the most accurate representations of movie guns possible, and since you're an armorer, we can anticipate that yours represent what movies use.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

::''only 125 TCs were imported into the entire USA and only 100 T models''

::Wow, it was really that few? OK, that explains everything. I had no idea they were so rare to begin with. Even HKPRO, which has import data for most of the -90 series guns, didn't have that info. Thanks for those numbers.

::Like I've said, I think this means it's good that we have the pics you've taken because they are a very accurate representation of the SR9s actually used in movies. I would recommend you do one of those "Movie Armorer's Notes" in the SR9 section of the G3 page, just like you did for the Colt Commando section on the M16 page, explaining what you've told me. Hope it doesn't bother you that we're unmasking all of the various tricks that you armorers have been using over the years to convince moviegoers they're seeing one gun when it's actually another! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re: SR9==

I think part of the problem is that there just aren't enough people who take Wikis in general seriously. As far as HK aficionados go, one of my pet peeves is that way too many of them I meet are way too arrogant towards non-HK owners for not being able to appreciate the "Teutonic superiority" (as Larry Correia put it) of HK weapons. Sorry to say that I dunno if you can please some of them no matter what you do. :)

Personally, I accept that there's some stuff that even Hollywood's people have to do in order to make our movie experience satisfactory. Like when we were talking about the ''[[Jarhead]]'' Abrams tanks...it's a necessary evil for Hollywood vehicle wranglers to dress up an English Centurion to look like an M1A1 simply because unless you're Spielberg, it's very hard to get the DoD to lend you a real one for a show. And likewise, in 1984, it was not possible to get real Soviet AKMs, RPG-7s, and DShKs, so the Stembridge armorers had to find the next best thing. But I also enjoy uncovering these tricks simply because I'm an enthusiast of firearms and military equipment in general, so I always like seeing how Hollywood's people think on the fly in adverse circumstances. There's an art to it, no? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction on the Four Brothers' HK33, it was labeled as a HK41 long before I started editing the page, I just took the screenshot. And also, thanks for the new images, I'm putting up the new M16A2 on pages right now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem, every image you upload is great. I also have a question, how do you get the pictures so perfect? Because your gun images are probably some of the best, if not the best gun images I ever seen on the internet. And yea, your new camera really does make a difference, the new versions of the images look great. Anyway, good job on your recent images, and can't wait to see your future M16s.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I see, you put alot of effort into your images and that's exactly what makes them great. I agree that alot of gun sites have bad images, some gun books don't have the best pictures either. One problem with some sites is that they also don't use the best examples, like they'll have a picture of gun but it'll have a whole bunch of modifications on it when the unmodified one is what's really needed, and I agree which should replace as many as the old images as possible. And I think visitors do notice your images because if you look at your Remington 870 Riot Model's file page, it has almost 200 views anad it's only been there since Sunday. And good work on the new M4, if you noticed, Hieloco (the user who kept trying to replace your images with "Net" Images) uploaded a version of the ColtM4 file with similar attachments, but yours beats his by by a long shot. And also is that the same M4 you mentioned on MT2008's talk page that the actor dropped? Just wondering.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==re:M16A2==

First of all, thanks so much for the new M16A2! The AR15 A2 picture was nice, too, but I just thought it'd be better to have the real deal, and it's nice that we have it now. AlienQueen's already been getting to work on replacing the old M16A2 with the new one, and I'll help out, too. The Luger is another image we needed - and the fact that it's from ''Hogan's Heroes'' is especially cool! As far as the HK91 goes, I didn't notice the shadow, but the new one is fine by me. There's only one that troubles - I think the newer Taurus 85 image is a bit fuzzier compared to the old one.

As far as future stuff goes, I have another recommendation. You know how we have an AR15 section under the M16 rifle page? I'd like to get some more un-modified, basic civvie AR15 variants on there, especially Colt Sporters, because I've seen them used in quite a few movies and TV shows that stand in for mil-spec M16s. We've already got an SP1 with an A2 hand guard that you took for the ''[[Heat]]'' page, but I think we should also have SP1s without the forward assist (both A1 and A2 forearms) and a carbine with a 16" barrel. What do you think? (Sadly, I have added more guns to your to-do list...inevitable.)

And yes, we definitely have some of the best gun pics on the 'Net thanks to you. I must admit I'm still smitten with the fact that Norinco Type 84 pics are basically non-existent in just about any gun image site around (even World Guns, which is usually pretty reliable)...except here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, one other thing occurred to me, something we need more than the Colt Sporter ARs...do you think you could get some pics of [[Thompson Submachine Gun]]s? All of our Tommy images are jacked from elsewhere on the Net. It's about time they were replaced. Of course, I know we've already given you a ridiculous number of requests, so I won't bug you too much. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==Sergio Leone Trilogy==
I finished the Leone Trilogy yesterday and I was wondering if you could I.D. the machine gun used in ''[[A Fistful of Dollars]]'', someone said it was a fake but wasn't very specific. I figured if it was some type of fake movie gun, you'd know best.

:Also, excellent Single Action Army picture, that's a beautiful gun. Care to tell me a little about the one you uploaded? Thanks. -GM

P.S. Check out [[Last Man Standing]], I just got that done.

Good job on the Luger P08, it looks great. I don't think the finishes are a big deal, to tell you the truth, I don't even notice it. And it's cool that it was used in Hogan's Heroes, because not only is it a special gun, but someone's destined to make a Hogan's Heroes page eventually, and it will be of a great use when someone does. Keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

::Speaking of LMS, his two .45s uniquely have diamond grips and I was wondering if you could take a special picture of A1s with diamond grips. I made a rough draft picture of what I had in mind.
[[Image:CrossM1911A1s-w-diamondgrips-roughdraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cross placed, fitted with diamond grips.]]
Let me know what you can do. -GM

==re: Taurus 85 & G3==

Haha...whoops, you're right. I keep forgetting, but...when you upload a new version of an existing image, IMFDB doesn't instantly replace it. Instead, the old image goes fuzzy for a period of time (which seems to vary from hours to days; no clue why) before the new image replaces it. I saw your Taurus Mod 85 pic when it was in this fuzzy "transitional" phase and the thought slipped my mind that this happens. The filter from my brain to my mouth (or rather, my keyboard) doesn't work sometimes, I guess.

As far as the G3 page goes, it is unfortunate. One thing I find annoying about Wikis is that there's apparently no way to confine an image to a particular section of a page when you use the "align" code, so when we follow page conventions and force an image to shift left, right, or center, it totally fucks up the formatting if the images are bigger than the text (which is going to be common for guns that don't have very many movie appearances listed). The only thing you can do is just add lots of space in between each section manually so that the images fit into the section.

But I do agree with you on one thing...why do we need a regular sporter SR9 with the thumbhole stock? Have you seen a movie with one? Do you or any of your fellow armorers have any in stock? Better yet, is there any movie or TV show that would NEED some heavily neutered civilian version of a G3? I kinda doubt it, so I would say it doesn't make sense to include the image. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I ditched the other two SR9 pics. Til we get movies with them (and I know I haven't heard of any yet), no point in having them on there.

:Nice that you found those long-barreled AK folders. I'm pretty sure that Vollmer had at least one at sale (years ago, back when their sales site was still online), but they are quite rare in this country indeed. As far as the pics from World Guns go...it's a mix, just like here. Some of them are pics that the site's editors took themselves, others are jacked from other sites, and some are scanned from books or gun rags. I've usually just used them because (before us), they were one of the most comprehensive gun sites on the net. But I definitely think that because of you, IMFDB now has not only good movie gun images, but some of the best gun images, PERIOD.

:Good luck on your current projects, and don't let those idiot Obama-supporting actors fuck up any more of your guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==The special page==

Remember how a while ago I asked you if I could try making a page that explained to new IMFDB users just how significant it was that we have a movie armorer who photographs his company's guns for us? Well, I finally got around to trying it out. Here it is:

[[MoviePropMaster2008: IMFDB's Own Armorer]]

The title is kinda cheesy, I admit, but it was the best I could think of. The other issue is that I'm not always sure my facts are straight, so if you want to correct anything, go right ahead. And I realize this might be kind of a lame idea - but I just feel it's important for everyone to understand how important your work is to this site. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

:Oh, trust, I fully understand what you mean about wanting to remain anonymous. Even if you weren't a pro-RKBAer working in an industry that is hostile to gun ownership (and non-liberals in general), it would still be perfectly reasonable to want to remain anonymous. When you're a professional of any sort, working in any industry, you don't want to do post something on a web site under your own name that could get you in trouble. As far as the page goes, however, I don't think it should be too big a deal for your anonymity as long as you avoid giving us your name. It's mostly just a way for us to brag that we have someone who can provide us with such great pictures, and to make sure that our new users understand the significance of those pictures. :-) But if you really are uncomfortable with it, that's fine, too...I can ditch it. It took all of 15 minutes to make.

:BTW, I dunno if you're OK telling me this or not (if not I understand), but are you a member of the American Entertainment Armorers' Association? I remember Dan Shea announcing its creation on a forum I used to visit, a couple years ago now. I understand that it was created specifically to address the threat from Cali's gun laws upon your businesses? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==More SAAs==
Your Colt Peacemakers are great, my western pages greatly need them. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Be sure to check out [[Hellboy II: The Golden Army]], I just finished it. -GM

==Image use on WIkipedia?==
Hi, I am an editor on the English Wikipedia. I came across this great site as it completes the media appearances lacking in our firearms pages. You've got some fantastic images of some obscure equipment in the idea configuration - that is, clear background and side profile shots. These would really help us illustrate some of our pages that are lacking in media content. Would you be kind enough to allow us to use these images on Wikipedia? We could upload them under an attribution license and provide a link to this Wiki in return. Kind regards, Koalorka from the WP:Firearms teams. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 12:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:Any chance of obtaining a response? I can be reached at koalora at rogers.com. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 12:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

::If you are hesitant or have any further questions regarding licensing, feel free to ask. Wikipedia is by principle an entirely non-profit organization as you are probably aware and we could not compensate you financially for the images. I do recognize that there was some considerable effort involved in collecting some of these rare specimens (still salivating over the CETME Ameli) and then setting up a studio with professional lighting, hardware etc. What we can offer to do is attribute you properly and generate additional traffic and awareness for this site and any other organization you specify (even the armory/studio that owns the firearms). If you agreed to have your images uploaded to our server, every one of them would be licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license that requires the copyright holder to be properly credited every time the image is displayed, in either modified or unmodified form. The license does not impair or restrict your moral rights. Here is the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ license description]. We can do a "test" image so to speak, upload an individual image to see if that satifies your expectations.

:In other words, don't make me beg.. :D At least the Ameli, pretty please.

:Regards.
:: To Koaloarka, I appreciate your kind words and gracious offer. As you can probably tell, I've been thinking about the offer. I'm obviously not jumping at the opportunity or else I would have communicated much earlier than now. I must assess what I've been trying to do for the last six months. Since I joined IMFDB I've been working extraordinarily hard to provide the site with exclusive gun images that are available nowhere else. Everyone here knows the hard work, time and $$ spent on trying to get the best quality images of the weapons available anywhere (on the net). And obviously I do it for the benefit of IMFDB. I'm torn by the upside of increased awareness to the site, but I am also not eagerly anticipating the inevitable diluting of the 'exclusivity' of IMFDB's images when they start showing up everywhere on the web.

:: Some background to my thinking - I would not have done the images for a simple firearms site. I probably would not have worked so hard for six months to get these types of images for a gun wiki. IMFDB's unique focus is that it mixes weapons and CINEMA, especially movie trivia and factoids which are not part of the 'regular gun owner's lexicon. '''That is the field I'm in''', and I welcomed the idea of a place where I can contribute my experience and information (mostly 'lost' on the 'regular firearms crowd'). Many of my images are hybrid guns (M16a2s with A1 features or vice versa), or some of custom guns made for the movies (Custom Type 84s or AMD-65s), or weird combinations of uppers and lowers (like the M16 variants, or the 2 toned handguns,etc). which are not factory standards nor are they historically accurate. I remember once, when a firearms historian and enthusiast looked at some of my handguns (SIG P226s and USPs) and was wondering what was wrong with my barrels. He didn't fathom nor appreciate the fact that these were REAL movie guns. He was just disdainful that they were 'ruined' because of the customization needed for blank firing in movies. Anyway, I was toying with the possibility of a limit release of images with a specific watermark or copyright. I was thinking of using similar but not identical images (but still identifying IMFDB.org as the source of the image) with a translucent copyright logo, but that would take some time. But I have not decided yet and I hope you understand my reluctance at this time. I've only been doing this for six months and I don't think I'm ready right now to 'give away' the work I've done when I'm not complete updating the gun images for IMFDB. Perhaps when I've stopped or retired from getting gun pics for IMFDB ....
::''Now there are some sites who already have MY permission to use some MY images, but each one of those entities provided weapons to be photographed, so they helped me personally with the photography itself. (some FFLs, a few collector friends, other armorers, etc.) So you might see a recognizable shot somewhere else, but they will be watermarked and copyrighted as license granted to that entity.

::Anyway I'm still thinking about it. Give me a little time. I am also conferring with other Administrators of IMFDB and I welcome their input. Ultimately, I will have to make some sort of decision (as the original photographer and copyright holder) as to where I wish to release the rights. Hope that helps.

::[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

:::I agree with what you say about how many people in the gun-owning community aren't going to appreciate what these guns are if they see them on any random gun site. Like, who the hell is going to understand that in Hollywood, HK91s are converted to look like SR9s, or AR15 SP1 carbines converted to look like XM177s? However, one thing I think you should consider is that some of the guns you've photographed are hard to find pictures of, and your pictures represent not only good "movie gun" images, but good gun images, period. The Type 84 pics you've taken are a very good example, because like I said earlier, good pics of the Type 84 seem extraordinarily hard to come by. The new FG42 image is also one that I think can be considered particularly special.

:::I would say that at the very least, you should consider it on a case-by-case basis; whether the gun image you have stands as both an important gun image as well as an important "movie gun" image. But ultimately, these are your images, so the decision is yours. Take my opinion only for what it's worth. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

::::I was not asking for a blanket-release of your work into the public domain or any such thing, just a few individual photographs of authentic and obscure and unmodified firearms, i.e. the CETME Ameli, FG42. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 18:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::I KNEW that. But work on Wikipedia WILL be jacked and seen all over the web. And the more removed the image is from the original source (here) the harder it is to force people to remove pirated images on their own sites. I fully intend to slam pirates who steal my images (which is my right), but it's harder when they can say'' "Oh I got it from Wikipedia, who are you? What authority do YOU have to tell me not to use a stolen pic?"'' It might be helpful to make a list of what you are interested in. I am considering creating an alternate image of the same gun with watermarks and attributions for 3rd parties (though it's not something I was planning to do at this time). Let me know your list and we can discuss it. thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

::::::The attribution license is for that purpose specifically, if you are not properly attributed when the image is displayed, that person has violated your rights to the image and is liable for prosecution under international or US copyright laws. Keep in mind that those willing to pirate your images will do so whether or not you agree with it, this will happen at a higher frequency once your sites gains in popularity; by letting Wikipedia use your images, your images will proliferate the net with the proper license, exposing your work and Imfdb.org to the mainstream. Right now, we can do just one image to determine if you'd be satisfied with the end result; how about the Ameli? The CETME Ameli page does not receive too many hits due to the scarcity of the gun. Kind regards. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 19:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

::Any progress here? You asked for a list, we would just like the AMELI at this time. Regards. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 17:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Smiths==

Thanks so much for the Smiths, but especially the Model 29! All the ones on the page before now were 629s, and I figured we needed an original blued M29. In fact, it seems almost like blasphemy that this is exactly what Dirty Harry used and we haven't had the right gun until tonight. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:Oh, yeah, forgot about that other S&W 29, hehe. But still, an MPM2008 photo of a Smith is always preferable to some random image from Google. And to answer your question - yes, you should feel free to replace old pictures jacked from Google with yours. There's no reason why anyone should complain, because...

:*(A.) Your pictures are always vastly superior to the old ones
:*(B.) It takes no effort to copy an image off the web, whereas taking your own pics is a time-consuming process (especially the way you do it)
:*(C.) You're an administrator now, so you have the final word anyway.

:As far as the other Wiki guy's offer goes, I agree that you should only do it if you can mark the images as your own first, or if they give you proper credit (and link to this site, guaranteeing us more hits :). Come to think of it, it might not be a bad idea to do that with ALL of your gun images from now on, just to make sure that we mark them definitively as ours. But although I like being able to think of your gun images as exclusively IMFDB's, not so sure I like the idea of clamping down on other users. I mean, let's face it, we'd look like hypocrites because many of the images on IMFDB are still jacked from other sites (though this will change eventually, of course). World Guns would probably throw a fit if they saw this site. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I suppose you're right...if World Guns did ask us to remove all of the images we've used without permission, I would immediately comply with their request. However, you gotta admit that it's still going to be kind of flattering if people decide that IMFDB is a great source of gun images (not just "movie gun" images) and want to use our pics.

:BTW, have you talked to any of the other armorers about IMFDB? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
I never knew they tend to used A1 muzzle breaks but it does make sense, A1 star flashes look cool (I'm still in awe over the shot when the muzzle flash is out 2ft in each direction)

I hope you don't mind that I edited your pictures together, I just used what I had. I'll just leave them on the page like that until you take some SP1 pics. Thanks. More to come on the Predator page. -GM

Same film different subject. Do you know who mounted the Shotgun under Billy's Rifle. It looks like a Ciener Ultimate only it uses a Mossberg 500 and it's several years before Jane's says such systems came out. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 08:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

==Hollow Point==
[[Image:Type84HybridRifle.jpg]]

Thanks for the Type 84S specific to the [[Hollow Point]] page. I really apprieciate it. Was the gun actually used in the movie or do you mean it is made to look the same? -GM

==The Mask==
I have it on my list, so I'll get it done eventually. -GM

Alienqueen11 here, sorry if I got in the way when you were uploading gun images when I was uploading those Resident Evil screenshots. --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Thanks for the new guns==

I really like those new SIGs you uploaded (just ditched the old P220R image and replaced it with yours on all pages), as well as the Type 84 folder and the Madsen M50 (the movie ''[[City of God]]'' features those, so we gotta get that image on that page whenever someone screencaps it).

Also, can you by chance tell me what kind of shotgun this is (from my page for ''[[The Crow]]''):

[[Image:Vlcsnap-269025.png|thumb|none|500px|]]

Who makes that bullpup stock? I think it's a Muzzelite, but I dunno, and a Google search seems to turn up negative for info or images on this gun. I know I've seen it in at least a couple of action movies from the 1990s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, OK, thanks for clarifying the type of gun used to kill Lee. I figured it was the 629 that killed him because I have heard from various articles that the gun was definitely a .44 Magnum, and the character of Funboy uses the 629 throughout the movie. Any idea why they switched to another gun for that one scene? Seems like it would have been identifiable as a continuity error had the scene been finished and Lee had not been killed.

:And don't worry; I do fully appreciate (have heard it many times) that the entire reason that the accident happened was because the production sent the armorer home in order to save money. And I have heard it was the fault of some clueless property assistant(s) who were responsible for the fuck-up that got Lee killed.

:Also, I appreciate the ID on Grange's shotgun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Dibbs==
I didn't think of it that way but I completely understand what you mean. I'll change the word. Dibbs is kind of declaring it is mine, simply saying that a movie is on my to-do list changes it sort of. The only movies I would really want to declare "dibbs" on are the ones I ordered on DVD, even when I own them on VHS already, just so I can screencap them. I'll remove my dibbs messages and just let people know I plan to do it, and if no one else plans to do it, I would like to. "Dibbs" was simply a poor choice of words. It's not like I'm locking the page from someone else to work on though. When Orca1 9904 asked to do [[Tears of the Sun]], I let him. (AQ11 even cut off the widescreen bars now). When you asked to do Rambo III, I let you. (P.S. Let me know if you need me to finish that.) I agree tho, it was a dumb idea.
P.S. I screencapped Iron Man, sorry. -GM

== One more request ==

Hey MPM2008, when I asked for the Beretta 92FS Inox, I happened to notice GM45 asked for a reversed Two Tone Beretta 92FS for use on the [[Sin City]]. If you happen to get ahold of them, I would like to know if you can combine them the factory style way as well and photograph it if you can, because a Beretta like that would be useful for pages such as [[Hostage (2005)]]. Here's a screenshot of the gun in the movie:

[[Image:HostageBerettatutone-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:HostageBerettatutone-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

That's an awesome shot as always, aAnd you're right that has to be the best shot of the gun on the entire internet. I like it the way it is, and excellent work on your most recent images too, I really like the M16A4. Also, are you still considering the Wikipedia user's offer?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:53, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==AK-104==
It looks great. The magazine is no big deal. Even with that magazine, you still have the only well-taken AK-104 on the net. Don't worry about fixing it right away, it looks awesome even with the wrong mag. One thing though. You never know when one day a movie could have an AK-104 with a waffle mag so don't just cover over it if you take a new pic. You replaced the MAC-10 with the after market mag with the newer image, but you never know when one could be seen using one. Just a pointer. I'm almost done with [[Hot Fuzz]], then I'm gonna do [[Tropic Thunder]], [[Crank]], [[Shawshank Redemption]], and [[The Dirty Dozen]]. Should have them all done by the end of the month. (With deer season, my job to fix guns has been pulling me away. Plus, I hunt myself on occasion.) Keep up the good work. -GM

:If I use the word "sexy" to describe a gun picture, what does that say about me? LOL.

:I like it. And I agree with Alienqueen; I wouldn't worry too much about the mag. However, I must say that I'm a little more excited about some of the other pics you uploaded while I was at work today...thanks so much for re-doing that Type 56-1 picture for the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' page with the AK-74 muzzle break and plastic mag, and I also really appreciate you getting the Benelli M1 Super 90 (oddly enough, we don't have a page for that gun, for whatever reason). And the new XM177 pic is something we REALLY needed; time to ditch that old XM177 picture we've been using to represent "Colt Commandos" in movies (I think it's actually a Tokyo Marui airsoft replica, anyway).

:But...for now, I must do more GRE studying and personal statements for grad school apps. Sadly, I'm getting way too busy to make regular contributions these days, but real life keeps calling. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

:I wouldn't worry too much about the stock, because if you notice every image you upload always finds a use. There's no telling if a movie will come up with an AK 104 in the same configuration, plus if it's a movie gun, the movie it was used in will have to come up eventually. But if you want to upload a new one, that's entirely up to you.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

:So finishes can cause that much trouble when combining parts? Makes you wonder how they do it because I see soo many Berettas in wierd configurations in movies, I remember seeing a Beretta 92FS Inox with a black barrel in Kiss of The Dragon. And also, how rare is it to see a two tone Beretta 92FS? Because even if you search it on Google, there aren't many images of one.

And about the FG421, that is one wierd looking gun, is it German made? Because it resembles the MG42's from [[Saving Private Ryan]] a little bit, but I must say the grip dosen't look too comfortable with the way it's positioned. But another great image none the less.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==FG-42==
Nice piece. It must be rare, I don't ever see them in my typical order books like Southern Ohio Guns or any other vintage firearms catalogs. Like AQ said, I think the grip is positioned ackwardly and seems uncomfortable. Like all the other cool German guns, I can't own it sadly. I don't see why they would make it a paratrooper gun, way too big. Nice pic. Glad you didn't ignore it in the back. -GM

==No Problem==
You're welcome. Despite not being such a great movie, it was quite interesting gun-wise :))

==Taps and Mr. & Mrs. Smith==
I don't own Tapps and have never seen it but I own the Extended Cut of Mr. & Mrs. Smith, which includes a scene with a Mini-gun and cool other things. It is on my list and once my to-do list pile is reduced, I'll get on it. Right now I'm working on Tropic Thunder and The Shawshank Redemption. -GM

==The FG42==

Damn, that thing is beautiful! Reminds me why one can never fail to give the Nazis points for ingenuity when it came to weapons. I seriously want one, along with a Sturmgewehr. Good news though! Have you heard about this? http://www.ssd-weapon.com/engl_web/produkte_en/fg42_en/fg42_en.htm Apparently, they've got civvie reproductions of these guns now! Dunno if/when they'll get imported/manufactured in the States. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

:Your choice, I guess. Are they being imported to the states yet, though? The site doesn't list a U.S. distributor, and I haven't seen any for sale yet. But yeah, it would be cool to have a picture of a nice new FG42, plus you can get the 2nd version which you told Alienqueen you didn't have.

:BTW, speaking of rare German weapons, do you have access to a Sturmgewehr (either -42 or -44)? There aren't too many movies with them that I'm aware of (besides ''[[Escape to Athena]]''), but they do appear in lots of WWII-themed games. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Remington 870==
Closest thing I can find is this bird gun in [[The Unit]].
[[Image:Unit-Mack'sshotty2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

:I read your story on Brandon Lee, that's tragic. I sometimes make dummy bullets and I ''always'' fire the primers before I reload the bullet. Your supposed to use super glue to make sure the round stays in the brass. Then you go to a wire wheel and polish the brass and get rid of any super glue that seeped out. I wonder why they never made "dud" primers that could look live but not go "bang" when the hammer falls on them. I first made dummy rounds with 8mm rounds for my Kar98k, but I didn't super-glue them in, and eventually they all fell into the shells and got stuck. It sucked. I'm sick with something bad and Tropic Thunder is gonna have to wait because I feel like crap. Have a good day. -GM
==Re:Morita==
Thanks, I'm feeling a little better. I was filling out some of the fictional firearms pages and I figured of all of them, you'd like the Morita page since I remembered you said you owned one. I deleted my page because yours came out better than mine. You know more about the movie any way, I have yet to see it fully and last time I saw it was too long ago to remember. -GM
:Nice SMLE pic! And I forgot to mention, the Colt Navy is beautiful. -GM

==Bankok Dangerous==
You made the page look much better now. Your shots are ''far'' clearer than mine. Thanks. -GM

==Tropic Thunder==
A Sporter II pic would be much apprieciated. To test the whole blank safety distance, I tested various blank calibers to a piece of paper and found 10 yards to be the ''dead zone''. Since I'm trying to make a movie with a few friends of mine (maybe something to show a film school), I'm going to use some blanks and want to know my limits. Obviously, since I'm the only one with true experiance and weapons intelligence, I'll be handling the blanks, post-production edits on my computer will fill the rest. I'll try my best to make them look like they know what their doing with guns, but they are pretty dumb. If you have any movie making tips, please let me know.
:P.S. I plan to make it a DVD and might even screencap it as a section on my profile. -GM

==Re:590==
Go for it, fine by me. Your pics are always better than what we find on google. -GM

==The new Cobray M11 picture==

The new Cobray M11/9 picture looks really cool! Thanks so much for that! Also, do you think it's appropriate to classify the M11/9 under the MAC-10 page? I have been thinking about giving that guns its own page for a while now. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

:First of all, I completely missed the MAC-11. I've just been getting busier and busier (currently at work - on a Saturday! - indexing prior art PDF files now), and you upload so many images that I've missed a few here and there. I did like the SG550, though, and the the AMD-65 pics were also something nice (it's cool that you found the same style BFA as the Israelis). But that Type 56 is just...ugh, who the hell treats a nice gun that way? (in Africa or Afghanistan, sure, but not here in the states!) It's odd because I had no clue that the Type 56 was imported to the U.S. back when Uncommon Valor was filmed (82-83). I remember hearing it wasn't until 1984 that they reached these shores.

:As far as the Cobray page goes, I know what you mean about the mistake, but then again, we have the [[Taurus PT92]] page separate from the Beretta 92 page even though the PT92 is commonly mistaken for the 92F. The best thing to do would put a note at the top of the page suggesting people look at the Cobray page just in case.

:Appreciate the effort on the Thompson pics...like I said, we REALLY need some good ones. I hate the fact that someone put an Auto-Ordnance semi-auto Thompson clone with a long barrel to represent an "M1921". Also, from now on, whenever you upload pictures, please do the same thing you did with the Cobray; just upload them as a new version over the old ones. The way, we don't have to go back and replace the old image with your new image on every single page that has the old one. And like I said before, nobody should mind if you get rid of the old images, because yours are always better and you're an admin anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

::Yeah, it makes sense, what you're saying. Were the Type 56s from ''[[Deer Hunter]]'' also the same as the ones from ''[[Uncommon Valor]]''? I mean, let's face it...you don't see that many Chinese AKs (or AK-type firearms, period) in American movies before about the mid-80s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

==That Type 56==
Holy shit, who handled that gun to make it that FUBAR?! One of my main jobs in my dad's shop is to clean up guns, so I understand how horrible that is. Mail it to me, I'll clean it up. -GM

Woah, that thing looks like it's 70 years old with every thing it been through. What did they do to it? I'll give it credit for one thing, that's a very good example of how durable and rugged an AK type assault rifle can be, especially with that kind of treatment.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

==Couple of questions regarding Walther pistols==

1) Has the current-generation P99 been converted or modified into a movie blank-firing gun that you know of? I ask because I see on the back cover of one of Wesley Snipes' DTV movies that he's holding one that appears to be a new-model P99, but it also looks like they took an UMAREX airsoft model and painted the tip black. Insight?

2) Word on a couple of forums is that the Walther PPS makes an appearance in Quantum of Solace, wielded by Olga Kurylenko. If possible, could you confirm? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

::I don't know, but I will keep it in mind when I ask around. MPM2008

==Request==

[[User:Revolver|Revolver]] here
Just curious, could you get a good picture of the M4s used by the Air force in Iron Man? The ones with the ISM-V Scopes?
Possibly other pictures from the movie? Like the G36Ks and G36Cs?
::I'll add it to the gigantic list of things to do. best regards. MPM2008

==.577 Rifle==
That would be awesome. Do you think you could one pic before he mounts a scope and one when he does? You'd have the best picture of such a rifle on the internet. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 00:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Another Request ==

I was wondering, would it be possible for you to get your hands on a stainless steel [[Jericho 941]]? There's at least a couple pages here such as ''[[The Kill Point]]'' and ''[[Transporter 2]]'' that could benefit from it. I'm also still waiting for a 1st-gen [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] (or whichever version of the 19 it is that doesn't have rails on the frame). Thanks in advance. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
:I didn't know it was an order, rather than a request (re the Glock) and I don't have a 2nd gen of my own or I would have posted it already. I have to track down someone with one and take the time to do the photoshoot, a real hassle BTW. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== About Png ==
Hi, for some strange reason VLC does not catches screenshots in jpg, only in png. In the future I will convert them in jpg before uploading. [[User:Fimvit|Fimvit]]

==Re: Goldeneye==

That's fine. In all honesty, it's a bad habit that I'm afraid I have, and I seem to be influencing other forum members to do it even though it does ruin the "encyclopedic" format of the pages, as you've said. I'll try to remember in the future; bad habits die hard for me. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ==

I know, I had already changed the settings. Regardless, it takes the snapshots in png. Can't figure out why...
Kind regards [[User:Fimvit|Fimvit]]

==Crank==
Hahahahahahaha, Blu-ray. I can't afford half a Blu-ray player. I'm still using DVDs, I guess this one just looks a little better. I've noticed some people use png files now, but they take too long to load and if you click on the image, it's just as clear as a jpg, so that's what I use. Thanks. Sorry I'm taking so long with it, I keep getting sidetracked. Go check out AQ11's profile talk and see my list of movies in my pile. Ugh. It's gonna be a long month. -GM

==Thanks==

Thanks so much for the new images (i.e. the USAS-12), and thanks for getting the Benelli shotgun page in order. It really needed an overall badly, and it's crazy that we never even had an entry anywhere for the M1 series before now. Also, nice work on ''[[Ultraviolet]]''; I've had that DVD in my collection for a while, but, like a lot of movies, simply never got around to capping it. No matter; yours are better than mine would have been.

Hope you've had a great Thanksgiving! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, I agree, the Molotov cocktail doesn't need a page. This is the Internet Movie ''Firearms'' Database, not the Internet Movie ''Weapons'' Database. Also, dunno if you saw, but some anonymous user tried to delete your user page, and has thus been nuked. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

::Oh, yeah, almost forgot...I'm not really sure how to see page views besides going to "Special Pages" (under Toolbox on the left side) and there's a "Popular pages" section, but that's not quite what you need... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re: Molotovs==
I understand what you mean fully but many pages link to the Molotov page and it's one of those mistakes that kind of has to be there now. I'm making [[The Whole Nine Yards]] as we speak and that had a molotov. I don't think it is a weapon deserving a spot but too many pages already have it and it's just easier if it is there. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 22:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Question about the SIGs from Double Team==

First of all, nice job so far on the ''[[Double Team]]'' page, even though it's not yet complete.

Anyway, I was looking at this picture:

[[Image:DoubleTeam-Gun-WallA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

What type of laser controls are those on the grip of the SIGs? I ask because I've seen the same setup on a SIG P228 that Denzel Washington uses in the movie ''[[Virtuosity]]'', and I was wondering who makes it. Or was it something done just for both movies? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==The Thompsons==

YES! They're awesome. Thanks so much...we ''really'' needed some good pics of Thompson SMGs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Response (Sorry for being late) ==

Thanks for wishing me a Happy Thanksgiving, I hope you had a great one as well. As for improvised weapons, I agree with you, Propane tanks even though they were made to be bombs shouldn't be listed as weapons. But I agree the molotov should stay since it's already a page for it and it's on quite a few pages. Also good work on Starship Troopers, the page looks great, and the Thompson pictures are great as well. Keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

==Thompson==
Sounds good to me, we need some Thompsons. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 21:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:Please, in the future, never hesitate to replace the old pics with yours. Yours are always better, plus when you just upload over the old ones, we don't have to replace the gun pics on each movie/TV/video game page individually. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== Good Job ==

Good job on replacing all the [[Thompson]]s, the new pictures look great. Also, are you still going to upload an M16A3? And also did some of the M16 type guns you uploaded come from Iraq? I mean like the M16A4, and the M4A1 with the scope and RIS Foregrip.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

==Taegukgi==
I can barely stand anime let alone flash animation shorts. I think it disrespects the hard work we do to screencap movies (and you great efforts to make sure we have images galore) and we have a page for some little short? I don't see why someone would watch it and wonder "Would someone like to know what guns are used in this?" Maybe if someone froze and capped the short it MIGHT be acceptable.

P.S I've been working on [[Wanted]] for 2 days, there are so many guns and continuity errors (guns switch to others in seconds), it is driving me crazy. While most I can figure out, some user input such as your own would be much apprieciated. I feel like I'm lying to the people who read my message at the top of the page that says "I'll have it done today" and can't because I busy. I hope they all understand. I'll make sure I give them the excellent page they've been waiting for (and get rid of the abismal bootleg images). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I think at the very least, a re-direct is in order. The flash animation should be something like "Taegukgi (Flash Animation)". But personally, I'm really kinda skeptical of including stuff that's not professional media. Next thing we know, any kid who makes action movies with his friends and their airsoft guns is gonna try and make an IMFDB page. This is an even bigger problem with mods for first-person shooter games, because there are lots of user-made mods on the 'Net.

:That reminds me...when I get done with the GRE, I need to get the FAQ done that I've been meaning to do. Once I draft it, I would like all the Admins on here to take a look, and we should all agree on particular terms. In it, I will specify rules on stuff like including Flash Animation. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

::Agreed. I have already warned several users that I will not allow images from bootleg copies of movies not out on DVD to be posted on IMFDB, but I missed ''[[Tunnel Rats]]'' because I had no idea what it was or when it was coming out. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

::I also think Anime is ok because it is something licienced, and more official. It's like saying Anime is to films and TV shows is to Flash and Fan made shorts with their home cameras and posted on youtube. I mean, should we start looking up shorts that people film themselves and then upload on Youtube? I don't think so. It's annoying, kinda insulting and a waste of time at the same time to even think of it. I do some of the Anime because I believe how they draw the weapons make them worthy of mention and images worth showing to see how real they drew them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:Just the same, I know you can tell my ONE Glock is real over the others listed that aren't. I don't go to the range as often as I want. Bullets are expensive and so is renting time on the range closest to me. I only play with Airsoft because it's the only time where I get to shoot people and not feel the slightest remorse whatsoever. I'm killing them in a manner of speaking. I have ran into the types of guys that only knows Airsoft brand names. I on the other hand am really interested in the real life counter parts that inspires Airsoft, this is where I found out so much info on real guns...but I still have trouble telling Berettas from Taurus and between shotguns sometimes. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

== FN FAL ==

Could take a picture of an FN-FAL?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Predator==
Thanks, it wasn't on my list but I saw the page was incomplete so I made time for it. Sorry I edited your pictures, but it looks better than an empty spot for now.

Also, excellent job with the Uzi pic, it looks great. I too never liked that Uzi pic before. I just finished screencapping [[Unforgiven]] so be sure to check that out. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"==
Do you think you could check your armory for a [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"]] rifle? Also, a lot of the ones in films are used as Henry rifles by removing the forend, the advantage being the lack of a spring follower pinching the shooter's hand. So if you do find a Yellow Boy, could you remove the forend and snap a shot of that as well? Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== H&K USP and H&K MK 23 ==

Could you replace the pictures of the H&K USP .45 and the H&K MK23 with better images. Thanks.

==Type 84 Target/Match==

So you finally got to take pictures of them. Nice! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

And thanks for the new .308 Valmet. Those appear in lots of movies, so I can use it on my ''[[Hard Target]]'' and ''[[The Negotiator]]'' pages.

==The HK94/MP5 conversion==

Thank you so much for this! I wanted it as much as GM did. Where did you find it? And you've actually confirmed already that it's one of the ''[[Air Force One]]'' MP5s? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

:Nah, of course that doesn't ruin it. If it's a movie gun, and it's the same type of conversion seen in those action movies from the 1980s and 90s, it's fine by me. It's the same ''type'', and that's more than enough for us. As far as Jedi Mind Powers, yeah, I guess I got something like that. Actually, I've just been glued to Facebook extending Christmas wishes to people most of today, and I check IMFDB pretty regularly. Also was working on ''[[24: Redemption]]'' earlier today.

:As far as your watermarking idea goes, I encourage it. However, there may be some way to actually disable right clicking on just your images so people can't save them to their HDs and re-post them later. Or, there may be a way of embedding copyrights into them. Not sure. But we'll figure out something. Asking Bunni about this would be the way to go, I think.

:Hope you've had a great Christmas. Over here on the East Coast, I've only got 1 hr. left before it ends, but you're in Cali, so I guess you still get a few hours left to enjoy today. And thanks for all the wonderful Christmas presents you've given IMFDB (again, I appreciate the HK94, the M78, and the long-barreled Type 84s). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

:The HK94 is great, I felt really bad chopping your pictures. Now I can get rid of them. And I read about your water marking idea. You should put one of your own personal insignias and maybe an imfdb logo. I hope you had a happy holiday. I got lots of movies to screencap including [[The Great Escape]]. I'm going to buy Romeo + Juliet and a few other gun movies with the money I got as well. I'm stilling working on Starsky and Hutch right now though. Great work with Stripes btw, I loved that movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Terminator 2 page==
What do you think of the T2 page? Did I over do it on the "fun facts"? As far as the guns go, did I get my info right? Colt Commandos are kind of hard to ID for me. Hope you have a happy new year. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re: the images==

First, thanks again for the new images. It's nice to have a USP45 (especially since ''[[Collateral]]'' is one of the more popular pages on here, and Tom Cruise used one in that movie). The FNC is another nice one to have. Did you ever find out if the ''[[Heat]]'' FNCs were chopped-down Sporters with auto sears and M16A1 flash hiders installed, as you suspected?

As far as copyrights go...yes, it was inevitable. I know people have been talking about IMFDB and its images on quite a few gun forums, but I had no clue anybody would have the audacity to take your images and claim them as their own! How has your electronic tagging worked? Any particular software you used? The last time you and I discussed watermarking, I did a quick search for software that might be used. I found this: http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=10611 . But if you have a better one, that works, too. I do think you should start getting the images tagged ASAP, because I don't think people should be stealing your stuff. I still do worry somewhat about the "hypocrite" accusations, though, but as long as you keep getting new images up, especially for well-known guns (like ARs, H&Ks, AKs, Glocks, 1911s, etc.), those cries will have little validity.

Anyway, sorry to add to your growing list, but I have another request. I recently did a major re-vamp on the [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series]] page, which used to be called just the "L96A1" page. All of the gun images I have on there now are jacked from Remtek's Accuracy International site, which I hated doing, but had no other choice. If you get a chance to photograph ''any'' of the AW rifles in your company's inventory, I'd be most grateful. I'm especially interested in the basic AW and the AWP (because my ''[[Jericho (TV series)|Jericho]]'' page has the latter), but anything else you have in stock would be great. Thanks so much for all your hard work. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

:The USP-45 looks great. As MT said, it will work well on the Collateral page (especially because I'm going to be adding shots to it later) and the FNC is excellent. Bravo. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Check IMDB for gun-heavy movies (you won't find specific IMDB forum topics in a Google search). It's very common now to see somebody ask a question about a gun in a movie and some other forum user will point them to us. Last one I recall looking at was "Hitman" where somebody mentioned us. I have also seen people make topics about us on everywhere from the AR-15.com to the 1911 forum to the Firing Line.

::As far as reactions go, sorta mixed. Some people draw attention to our mistakes (and let's face it - we had a LOT, especially before you came in), others say we're neat. However, there don't seem to be a whole lot of folks so far who understand the fact that our images are exclusive to us - which is another reason why your watermarking is such a good idea. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Hey MPM2008, I just wanted to say thanks for all your recent pictures, I really like the USP 45, and the Mossberg 590 Mariner. Thanks to you, Imfdb now has genuine pictues of all three calibers the USP is available in. Keep up the excellent work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I was trying not to do too many shots in Commando since I didn't want to muck up your page but I didn't know your limit was 4. I add so many shots usually because they illustrate different users and different scenes. I don't try to spoil the story but I try to run a path with my images. I was trying to respect your format more than how many screencaps (you'll see I kept the calibers after each description like you do and kept the size image under 600px. I'll admit that LMS had too many shots but don't hold that on me every time I go a little over on my screencapping. Hope you had a happy new year. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Finally Got It!==
The AKMS pistol looks great. Nice work. I just finished ''[[The Mist]]'' and ''[[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]]''. Now I'm gonna work on ''[[Van Helsing]]''. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re:Finally Got It! ==

That is one Sweet AK! Is that the actual gun used in the movie? Happy New Year By the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 07:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Finally Got It! ==

It looks awesome! Where did you find? Is it one of Cinema Weaponry's guns, as I suspected? Also, that gun appeared again this past summer in ''[[Pineapple Express]]'', so I added it to that page. But nice job. And Happy New Year! Thanks for the wonderful gifts you have given us! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==Rambo==
I noticed you are adding some new shots to Rambo. Do you think you could grab some shots of his knife and bow, since all the othe Rambo pages have them. If you can't, I'll do it eventually. If you can, note that he has two knives. His mini machete that Stallone actually made for the movie and the knife from Rambo II. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==The Auto 9==

You had access to the Auto 9? Wow, I had no idea they had any of them intact after all these years. Of course, ''[[Sin City]]'' features one, but theirs was actually a modified 92FS, not a 93R. How did you get your hands on this thing? Whatever...nice job, and thanks for the awesome pic. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Finally Answering your questions ==

I understand now, thanks for the reply. So you can basically make it look like any kind of M16 if you have the right parts, anyway I can't wait to see your C7. Also, are you uploading more Mossbergs? Because if you want, I can edit the Mossberg 500 with the Heatshield out of the Comparision picture and upload it if want me to:

[[Image:MossbergComparisonMain.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

But if you prefer to upload your own image, it's okay.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

About the Mossbergs, So you do want me to edit it out? Anyway, A simple Mossberg 500 with a High Capacity magazine tube to replace this image would be nice:

[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 - 12 gauge]]

Also, if you can get an image of a Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip like the one in [[Training Day]] it would be apprecited. Thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Mossberg 500 ==

Hey MPM2008, I cropped and edited the comparison image, and uploaded the Mossberg 500 with the heatshield as a seperate image. I just want to want to know if it's okay before I add it to the page. I wrote that it belongs to you in the image description. What do you think?

[[Image:Mossberg500withHeatShield.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Thanks, I tried to make it looked as much like one of yours as possible. I'll put on the page now. Feel free to edit or overwrite it whenever you like.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==The PT92C==

Thanks for this! I just put it on the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page. I'm guessing it might even be the same one seen in ''[[Gates of Hell (1995)|Gates of Hell]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: 24 Redemption==

Yep, I understand. I was just giving a reason to everyone why I was. I realize you wouldn't make that mistake. I think the page used to have the USPc simply because it appears on the DVD cover, before I screencapped it and generally gave it a huge overhaul. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for the new FALs!==

They look great! We can always use more. Only question is...do you by chance have a picture of a 50.61 like the gun from ''Heat''? (or rather, something that looks like one)

The new Mossberg Bullpup also looks good. While I liked the one with the extended magazine tube, I like this new one better, simply because the standard models without the extended tube seem to be the ones which appear in movies most often. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Excellent, that 50.61 is perfect. Thanks again! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

==Trapdoor Springfield==
Thanks for uploading pics of the Trapdoor Springfield rifles, they complete a few of my pages better. I added your pictures to those pages as well.

I've been working on ''[[The Dirty Dozen]]'', have you seen it? I have the guns down but I've only seen the movie twice and don't know all 12 guy's names. If you have, can you help me out with that? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== RE: Above ==
I am sorry in advance for the language I am about to use but this douche Gunmaster45 completely erased the "Dirty Dozen" page I had ALREADY created. Not a single piece of the page I had created still exists. Admin or not where does this asshole get off destroying a page I worked on???

==Help with ''Transformers'' 1911 pistol ID?==

Hey, I was wondering if you could take a look at the M1911 being used by Captain William Lennox ([[Josh Duhamel]]) in my screenshots of ''[[Transformers]]'' and see if you could ID it? It appears to be a mostly standard M1911 pistol but has a Kimber-style hammer and slight beavertail to the grip safety. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

: Just took another look at the M1911 page and it almost looks like the [[M1911 pistol series#Colt XSE|Colt XSE]], only the weapon in the film lacked the second set of cocking serrations at the front of the slide. What do you think? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re:KIN93==

Not really. He has been warned before this, so being a bit frustrated is understandable. And yes, I agree that being released in theaters does not justify using bootlegs, and will certainly still be noticed by any studio police on the prowl. After all, if a movie hasn't been released on DVD yet, there's no way to get screenshots other than bootlegging. And that's why it's unacceptable. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== About the images on the Predator 2 page ==

Could i replace them?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:28, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I've been trying to cut back on the amount but I have my specific way I make my pages. I don't just tell what guns are used. I tell you what guns are used, who uses them, goofs, and fun facts. It makes the page a little larger but I like to think of it as being thorough, more like an article then just a "page". Since we have pages for actors, guns, and films/TV, it is good to show you the info. Sometimes I just can't pass up good shots. If you notice on my Last Man Standing page, the shot is either good, or is telling information. I understand that some of my pages are cluttered, but I've been doing my best to keep them organized. My limit now is usually ten or less images, but I sometimes have to makd exceptions. You are free to remove screencaps I add if you find them to be to many on one of ''your'' pages. You are free to do whatever you want to your own pages, if I add something you find it not needed, you have the right to remove it. I took some of the Mini 14 shots off your ''[[Commando]]'' page for that reason. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I was looking at the [[Rambo (2008)]] page and saw some of the changes you made. As always, I was a little sad to see those images you removed go but it is your page and your right. While I understand the removal of the shot of the soldier sent airborne by the .50 caliber (I just thought it was worth noting how dumb "movie logic" can get, but it doesn't have a gun in it, so it is not needed), but why did you remove the shot of Diaz with his FN FAL Carbine? I thought it was a pretty clear shot.

I just added some shots to [[Flashpoint]] and soon I'm going to do [[Get Smart]] and a revamp on the Matrix series (the three films and that awful Animatrix) since I bought the four pack DVD - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for your comments about my pictures from [[The Sting]]; it's always been one of my favorite movies (despite its use of suppressed revolvers!) Feel free to make the screencaps any size you feel appropriate, I appreciate your comments and interest! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Screencap limit? ==

Hey, I was just looking at some of my own pages and seeing that I tend to really really overdo it with screencaps (which makes some pages take way too long to load). I was just wondering if you know what a good suggested amount might be for the same gun? Thanks - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That sounds like a very good amount for each. I'll try and go through some of my pages (especially ''[[Dillinger (1973)]]'' and ''[[Bonnie and Clyde]]'') and reduce some of the redundancy. I'll keep it in mind from now on. Thanks for getting back to me so soon! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Hi!==

Sorry I haven't been on IMFDB in a few days. To answer your question: It's not so much that life is kicking me in the ass, it's mostly that I'm in Washington, DC right now without my laptop. Even though I didn't vote for Obama, I came here for his inauguration, mostly because my Mom is a big fan, and because my boss got us the tickets, and well...you know, I do try to do nice things for Mom, even if I don't like the guy she helped elect President. Plus, I got several days off from work, which is always nice.

I should be back tomorrow, and I'll catch up on everything I've missed for the past few days. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request==

I really like how you edit those jacked pics and make them look so much better. So, I figured I'd ask...if you get time, do you want to edit this pic of a Gen 1 Glock 19 that we've been using on several pages?

[[Image:Wviewpoint 0430.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 9mm]]

If you get around to it, cool, but I realize it might be a while. It could use some removal of white space and shadows, and any other touch-ups you can do. Thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

:Ah, alright, well, that's fine then. Just figured I'd ask because I thought I remembered you telling Orca that you didn't have a Gen 1 Glock 19 in stock at the time, and I wasn't sure if that had changed recently. And yes, DC was a whole lotta fun...until I had to go to the party where all the people from my firm were celebrating the inauguration. Try being the only Libertarian in a room full of mindless liberal douchebags and it's quite awkward. I loved how they were all clapping and cheering even when Obama was saying things that weren't really all that profound or moving. I don't think it matters how good or bad Obama turns out to be as President...this Stalin-esque cult of personality around the man is something I will never get used to. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

::It looks WAY better. Only thing is, next time, please just upload a new version over the old one. Thanks for doing this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

::By the way, is there really a difference between the T3 AKMS pistol and the ones from Rambo and Pineapple Express? I keep comparing photos and I still can't see the difference in barrel length. The only thing I see is that the Rambo one may or may not have a smooth receiver cover (like the standard Type 56) instead of the AKM-style ribbed. And the True Lies gun is a different one entirely. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

==Rambo (2008==

Just to give you a heads up I changed the info on Rambo M2 Brownings. I talked to Kevin @ ISS about them and he told me they were M2. He was with the show in Thailand working on the 50's. As for the designation AN/M2 was used by the military to discribe the Browning Aircraft gun both 50cal and 30cal unitl 1944 it was changed in September 44 to M2 Aircraft. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the new 870, It looks amazing. Even the color of the stock and pump match the gun in the movie, excellent work. So are you working on the ghost ring version right now or still looking for the accessories? Either way, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. Thanks again, and keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==M1-C Garand==
Beautiful M1-C, thanks for uploading it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Browning M2==
That is definately useable! It's great! I was going to ask that you replace the M2 pic but figured you had enough to do already. You might want to take a picture of it on a pintle mount though because that is the most commonly seen .50 in films. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I like your picture! If you can do the pintle mount, great, but right now, I'm just happy we have a picture of an M2 at all that we can call our own. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

== Browning M2 ==

Thanks for the M1 Garand info, that picture helped me alot, I now understand how the scope and gun work. As for the M2, That is definitely a usable picture, it's excellent! .50 cals are huge, and I would say that type of format is perfect for them. If you want my photo wishlist again, it is these besides the ghost ring 870:

Beretta 92FS Inox

Two Tone Beretta 92FS (If you're able to combine the parts)

Heckler & Koch Mark 23 ("SOCOM")

And if it's possible, can you obtain a U.S Military issue Beretta M9, I know it's very much the same as a Beretta 92FS, but I heard there were some slight differences, and it would go great with the M9A1 you uploaded before. But if you can't get ahold of it, it's okay. The 870 and the Beretta 92FS Inox are the main things I want. Thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind the M9 actually, MT2008 is right. We don't need it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Help on Alex Reid==

Looks like my Jedi Mind Powers are at work again. Creepy, eh?

Alex Reid uses several types of weapons in ''[[Ultimate Force]]''. She uses a SIG-Sauer P226 in at least a couple of episodes. In the episode where the SAS goes against the IRA, she uses an MP5KA1 to shoot at the terrorists during the ambush, and later briefly has a Glock 17 (the same one you see being pointed at her) before the bad guy takes it away. In the season 1 finale, she is given a PPK, but never gets to fire it herself. In another episode where the SAS goes after a Christian cult, she has an MP5SD3. In the season 2 finale where Red Troop goes to South Ossetia, she uses an FN Minimi. Here are some pics from the ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' page:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-77839.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Caroline Walsh ([[Alex Reid]]) unloads a SIG P226 at French special forces in Episode 2.1, "Communication".]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-136363.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Captain Caroline Walsh ([[Alex Reid]]) firing an FN Minimi in Episode 2.6, "Dead Is Forever".]]

Only problem is, these don't really show her face that clearly, so you can't tell who she is. I'll see about getting others... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I got one. Give me a sec to cap it. Season 1, and the episode was "Just a Target" [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, just remembering, in season 1, forgot which episode, she is seen with a full length double barrel shotgun, but never fires it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Here's the pic of her with her SIG

[[Image:UFCWalsh.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

== Wikipedia pirate? ==

Hi, I requested several images from you a while back, but there appears to be an editor on Wikipedia going by the name Josh Woolstenhulme who appears to be uploading some of your gun photos and claiming to be the author. Here are his uploads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Josh_Woolstenhulme

If this isn't you, just a heads up.

[[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 21:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks. He IS stealing images. A quick pass and I noticed these.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/M1_Garand.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/M1903Mark1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/AKMRifle.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/SMLE.jpg

so how do I complain and get these down?

:I'm not a Wikipedia member at present (I usually post anonymously), but it seems this user is already setting himself up to get your images removed. Note on the AKM image, it now says this:

:''This image or media does not have information on its copyright status. Unless the copyright status is provided, the image will be deleted after Friday, 6 February 2009. Please remove this template if a copyright license tag has been added.''

:But you should keep working with Koalorka to make sure your stuff isn't being taken, because I'm afraid I dunno what to do besides leave requests on a moderator's talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::Yes, that was me that put up the warning tags. All violating images have now been removed and the pirate warned. Thanks again for the Ameli, you can find the article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CETME_Ameli here]. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 16:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==My requests==
I don't have much but here's a few I thought of:

* [[MG42]]

* [[MG34]]

* [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] with/without 33 round mag

* I mentioned before how I'd really like a [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"|Winchester 1866]] with the forearm and without it fro when they mimick Henry rifles in movies.

* Any western guns are great, I'm one of the few who can apprieciate them (since about 90% of the western pages are mine)

* We still need a [[Mossberg 500]] with wood furniture for pages like ''[[Heat]]''

* Some more [[Desert Eagle]]s. The images are all .50AEs, we need some .44s and .357 DEs. We also need a black model.

* [[RPG-7]] (still using that ugly picture taken off google)

* [[M60]] series machine guns

That's all I got for now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Was the extra holding that M60 an extra or someone well known? By the way, I could never do your job. The idea of so many idiots handling and breaking my guns would drive me to insanity. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Good Luck ==

I would like to wish you good luck on your most recent business trip, and I hope you have a good time or try to, and thanks for notifying us about it. Also, sorry to put more requests on your list, but can you look around for these as well?:

* Browning Automatic Rifle or B.A.R

* Mossberg 500 with High Capacity Magazine tube

* Mossberg 590 with Ghost ring sights (I think this is what the Remington 870 on the [[Hostage]] page really is, and I seen them in movies such as The Last Castle)

* M1 and M1A1 Thompson

Thanks, and I wish you the best of luck on your trip.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Revolvers==
I have a question. I know auto pistols need to be milled and threaded to fire blanks but do revolvers need to be modified to fire reliably? I once had some acorn crimped .45 LC blanks which I put through a SAA. The primers backed out from a lack of recoil and the gun locked up. I tried putting it though a Colt M1917 and it hardly fired unless I angled it right. I've seen in movies how some of the firing pins are removed from the hammers (like the S&W 36 from ''[[Running Scared]]''). If they do need to be modified, could you tell me how exactly? Thanks.

P.S. If we have any more things to add to your list, can we just add them directly or should w ask you first in discussion? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I also forgot to ask, what movie was the M60 used on? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Push==
Have you seen the trailers for the new movie ''[[Push]]'' coming out soon? I'd screencap the hi-def trailer but my computer is too slow to do it right. If you're free, could you give it a look? I'd rather you made a page with HD trailer shots than some anonymous user making an empty page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE: Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You are awesome! These guns are great! I'll be sure to add them to the page. I'm going to have to go back and snap a shot of Ace with an SAA (they didn't show him too clear but I think I can find one). I can't wait to see what else is coming. Thanks! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm glad to see you've gotten more famous guns, they look great. It's quite impressive how many guns you're uploading that are well known as used guns by the actors. Did you meet with some important people lately? Keep up the good work, the pics look great. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::All I can say is...Oh, my, God. You have outdone yourself this time. This is one of the best updates you've given us yet. I don't even know how to begin thanking you. I can't even express how giddy with excitement I am that we have these pictures. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Yep, I saw those too! Really awesome. More than awesome, actually. And the new Desert Eagles and the Mark 23 are also VERY highly appreciated, too. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Desert Eagle==
The Desert Eagles are great! We really needed a black model and you gave us all three! Thanks much. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==H&K Mk 23 SOCOM==
Outstanding work with the SOCOM pistols! How did you come across a REAL knight's arament suppressor? You've really outdone yourself this time! Keep up the good work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Photos==
Nice photos you got the other day from our friend. I did not mean to rub you the wrong way last week. We could work better together and put this behind us. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Babylon .A.D/ SPAS 15 ==

I don't think the gun under the M4 is a SPAS 15. The gun pictured has a full lengh forend and the reciver doesn't match. I have seached every where and can't figure out what the gun pictured is. But thanks for help. Gunner313

== Welcome back ==

Welcome back from your trip, hope you enjoyed it, and thanks for the new goodies. I put your newest Smith & Wesson handgun pictures on most of the pages except the ones that had no screencaps or if I couldn't tell which kind of model it was, and I also put the movies guns you got on the S.W.A.T., Untouchables, and Pulp Fiction pages. Best regards.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Thanks ==

Sorry about taking the honors away from you, those are amazing pictures though especially those guns from The Quick and The Dead. If you would like help replacing the pictures, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the new pictures, how many armorers did you meet with? Also the Berettas from Die Hard and Lethal Weapon are nice, so they took it out of the case for you? It looks well worn.
Also, about formatting, I noticed one or two users put at the bottom of sections a few times to space out their pages, I previewed it on pages a few times, it seems to work, but you have do it a few times in a row. Not sure how effective it is, but I figured it's worth noting.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 08:24, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Two requests==

Star Ultrastar, And a S&W 5906 w/ Adjustable sights
Nice job on the Beretta 92 section, by the way
~ Revolver

==Weapon Photos==
Nice photos you just posted. I hope you do well getting your next gig. This SAG BS will put a damper on things. I will have some non-industry related work coming into my shop so it should not hurt that bad. If you need anything PM me on the forum and I will see what I can do. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Re: Update ==

You have really outdone yourself this time, all these new images are amazing. It's cool that you had help from the armorer of True Romance, and that you got to photograph the Beretta from the Die Hard and Lethal weapon films, it makes me wonder why so many why so many actors and directors are so anti gun, especially when they worked around guns so much. Anyway, no one should mind if you replace their pictures, yours are superior to anything else on the site, and I have seen the XXX guns, and those are cool, thanks for finding out what the mystery M1911 on XXX 2 was. It's also cool that IMFDB now has it's own pictures of these unique guns. It was nice of those guys to help you, that was by far the most guns I have ever seen you upload. One thing is for certain, if people don't come here to see what guns were used in which movie, it'll most likely be to see your pictures.

No problem about the formatting, a user named [[User: Vinniebar|Vinniebar]] used it when this site first started, hopefully it'll be the answer to our formatting problems. Anyway you did good with those Berettas, they came out great with what you had there, do the they still work good? Anyway I have to get to bed now. You can keep uploading gun pictures if you want, but you can take a break if you want, you derserve one. Thanks again.

P.S, sorry if it took me long to respond, I'm not the fastest typer.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 09:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==The new stuff==

Your updates just keep getting more and more incredible. Having actual movie guns was cool enough, but having ''specific'' guns from movies handled by stars is just beyond cool. The new Berettas and the Tokarevs are especially appreciated. I just don't even know how to thank you anymore, and words just ain't gonna cut it.

BUT...I must ask you a really quick question. You say that this Beretta was used in ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92F 9mm used by Bruce Willis in the film with extended mag release and slide release.]]

Only thing is, this gun clearly doesn't have the extended mag release and slide release, which is visible in this screencap from our movie page:

[[Image:DH_McClane2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|McClane with his [[Beretta M92F|Beretta 92F]] drawn while taking cover from incoming fire from both Hans and Karl.]]

My question is, isn't THIS the gun that Bruce Willis used in the first ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9mm. This is the actual screen used Beretta carried and fired by [[Bruce Willis]] in the film.]]

...because this one actually DOES have an extended slide release and mag release. Also, LMO has a picture of this gun on their page for ''[[Die Hard]]'' (which isn't as good as yours) and it looks identical to this.

Furthermore, I doubt this gun (the one right above) was in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'' or ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'' because I don't think either of the Berettas in that movie had the extended slide release. On the ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', I posted a picture of one of the Berettas which I took from LMO's site.

Anyway, point is, are you sure you didn't reverse the images? Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:20, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:Also, I could have sworn the Beretta Gibson used in the first ''Lethal Weapon'' had a gold Beretta logo on the grips. Did they replace it with the blacked-out one later on? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::Oh, crap...you know, I barely even grasped the scale of what you uploaded because you did so many. The Auto Ord 1911 from "Pulp Fiction", the S&W 629 and the 1911 from "XXX 2", the P7 from "True Romance"...excuse me while I go pee myself with excitement. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::And not only do we have a Jericho 941 that's stainless, but it's the '''same''' gun used in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''? (faints) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==The Berettas==

First of all, Cinema Weaponry has a display case for some of their famous movie guns? That's really awesome...do you other pictures of it? What else is in it?

Anyway, like I said, I'm pretty sure you just reversed the two Beretta images. THIS one is from ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9mm. This is the actual screen used Beretta carried and fired by [[Bruce Willis]] in the film.]]

Again, if you look at the picture of Willis with the 92F from "Die Hard", it looks identical. Also, wasn't there more than one of them? I've always understood that you guys are in the habit of having at least one or two back-up weapons for each "hero gun" use? Did Mike Papac configure multiple Berettas in the same way as the one used by Bruce Willis in the first "Die Hard"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:OK, I'm looking at your picture of the display case. If you want my opinion, it looks like the 92F in the center of the picture (next to the "Enemy of the State" 1911) actually was used in "Die Hard 2" and "Demolition Man". You can see that it hasn't been modified for Bruce Willis (no left-hand mag release, probably because Sylvester Stallone used it later, and he's no lefty). However, the next Beretta over is definitely the one from the first "Die Hard" - it '''does''' have the left-handed, extended mag release. However, you probably just can't see the label for the gun because it's out of the picture.

:Do you think that might explain things? We should ask Steve about this, as I'm sure he knows well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::But I forget...didn't Syd Stembridge basically take all of his remaining assets to Cinema Weaponry? I've been under the impression that Stembridge and CW essentially merged with each other after Stembridge closed down in '99. So aren't the guns that Syd kept now in Mike's hands?

::And yes, I imagine Mike must have a lot of cool stuff to photograph. One other thing you should ask about...remember the H&K G11 from ''[[Demolition Man]]''? If you can at least get the story on where that gun came from, that would be awesome. I've always wondered...did they build it themselves?

::''ALOT of them in films are still those HK94 conversions, but now we can't tell visually if they are or not.''

::True, but that just means they're identical to almost every single other transferable MP5 within the chain of commerce, which were also converted from HK94s. I forgot...was it La France that did most of the conversions of HK94s for Stembridge, Ellis, etc.? Anyway, it's good that you got the picture of the one that you have. Those things may be obvious conversions, but they're still an important part of movie gun history! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:::I figured Syd was still in business even though he doesn't seem to get many armorer credits these days - if you watch ''[[A Man Apart]]'', for instance, it says, "Weapons provided by Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry" in the credits. But I've been confused about what weapons he retained, what LMO sold, what CW received or what came under their umbrella, etc. Thanks for clearing that up.

:::So as far as the G11 goes, are you saying that the one in ''[[Demolition Man]]'' was actually a real G11 and not something that was built specially for the film? I figured it was built around something else, sort of like the way that "XXX 2" features G36Ks mocked up to look like XM8s (and I think Steve may have had a hand in that film as well). As far as getting a picture, don't worry, I won't pressure you. I realize how hard it must be. I was just curious to know if the gun in the movie was the real deal or not, because I couldn't imagine HK would ever trust some moronic actor with one of their rare prototype weapons (no offense to Wesley Snipes). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==Confusion + Overseas visit==

I think I'm about to make you a whole lot more confused...

''Mike recalls that he didn't install the extended mag release button and slide release until the second movie''

If that's what Mike recalls, then it doesn't seem to match the evidence. Here is a screencap from the '''first''' ''[[Die Hard]]'' showing the Beretta:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-62528.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

So again, this is the ''first'' movie that this image came from. If you look closely, you can see that McClane's (Willis') Beretta '''does''' have the extended slide release. Again, compare to the picture you took:

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|]]

So Mike's memory must be failing him on this, with all due respect. It looks like he ''did'' put on the extended slide release (and mag release) for the first movie. I don't know about the Lethal Weapon movies (I don't have those on DVD), but the 92F from Die Hard 1 is a gun that has an extended slide release.

Also, did Mike do any work on ''[[Die Hard With a Vengeance]]''? I've always been under the impression that because that movie was filmed in New York, Weapons Specialists, Inc. provided the guns for that film. Rick Washburn is credited on IMDB as the armorer on ''[[Die Hard With a Vengeance]]'' (though it looks like Dave Fencl also did some work on the film). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

''I MAY have an opportunity to go overseas (France) and I will try to photograph some of Christophe Maratier's guns (Leon/Ronin/LaFemme Nikita/District B13/Taken/etc) I would like to also go picture taking in Britain at Bapty's or Sascha Robey's collection, but who knows? I don't have a connection/introduction yet with those guys. And with all the retarded gun restrictions going on over there...... ''

That is pretty wild! Unfortunately, Bapty auctioned off a whole bunch of the James Bond movie guns (including several of the original Walthers, plus the OICW replica from ''[[Die Another Day]]''), back in 2006, before the recent ban on "realistic imitation replicas" took place (they were all deactivated prior to the auction). Still, it would be really cool to see some of the stuff they still have. You would probably be able to get them to let you in, though. Dan Shea went to Bapty's back in 2003 (I think) and they let him photograph a lot of their guns (which appear on LMO's site), so if you told them who you were, you could probably get in. Have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

::''Yeah, but WHO is the better photographer? ;)''

::Well, obviously...hehe. :-) The coolest thing is how you got a lot of the same guns as his site, but yours are 100x the quality. Speaking of which, have you ever considered professional gun photography for a living? Or do you already do it? Your pictures are the kind of thing that gun rags and books would kill for.

::''I was thinking of doing an actual table top book with the pics (including a bunch of other angles that I did not upload)''

::What about a book showing off specific "hero guns" from movies? Have any of you (the armorers) talked about that in the past? Of course, I guess the great thing about IMFDB is that you guys are free to use it for precisely this purpose, except that anyone can access it for free.

::''Either that or I'll say "MT2008 says you're full of SHIT!" heheheh. Those were done 23 years ago and we're all doing this from recollection.''

::Ugh, I dunno if I could stomach the idea of correcting Mike on his own work, being as I'm not an armorer. But I do realize that it's unreasonable to expect him to know all this stuff from memory. I have trouble remembering details about specific guns I shot as recently as 5 years ago. 23 years is a ''long'' time to keep details in your head, for any human being.

::As far as the (nearly) blank pages go...screw 'em. I've deleted several already. Also, one user made a page for ''[[The War Briefing]]''. I'm not sure it fits with the scope of the site. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

==re:Asshat==

It's just some dude who's upset because I gave him a temporary suspension for fucking up the ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' page with inaccurate info when he didn't even have the courtesy to ''ask'' before editing. Maybe I over-reacted a ''little'', being that I did most of the screencapping and other work on that page, but the sheer audacity of his rudeness just pissed me off so much that I figured he deserved a time-out.

Don't worry, I wasn't fooled for even a second when I saw the "Warning" on my talk page (you can see my responses to him [[User talk:68.233.138|here]]). And yes, I ''could'' actually report '''him''' for impersonating an FBI agent and they might complain. But, this loser is too pathetic to even bother. Besides, I have the flu right now, so I don't feel like it anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arachnid==

OK, it's really interesting you made a page for this movie...I watched it on Sci-Fi not too long ago, but couldn't remember the title! And even though I'm an ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' fan, I completely failed to recognize [[Alex Reid]] in the movie. Weird...

As far as the guns in the movie, I may be wrong, but I remember the AR-15 carbine (the long-barreled one) being a Colt Sporter-1. Or at least, I think the upper was from a Sporter-1, because that looks to me like a 16" barrel. I can't remember - was the gun ever fired on auto? I remember the Model 733 was, but I remember the other AR only being fired on semi. In which case, I suspect it's most likely a factory civilian Sporter-1.

Also, I think Chris Potter's MAC (the one which magically becomes an Uzi) is an RPB clone or something else that's smaller. Unless Chris Potter is a huge guy with huge hands (and he doesn't seem that way in any of the other stuff I've seen him in where he handles guns), the receiver on the MAC looks a bit too small for it to be an original MAC-10. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

:No worries! I would have been really upset myself. My first week here, I remember editing a page while another user made a minor edit simultaneously, and I was really pissed off too because I lost all my edits which I hadn't backed up, which was nearly an hour of work down the drain. Nowadays, I'm in the habit of copying anything I write into a Word file before submitting in case that happens.

:Anyway, back to the movie...I'm not sure if Chris Potter has such huge hands or not. Not too long ago, I was watching episodes of ''[[Kung Fu: The Legend Continues]]'' on YouTube, which he starred in. His sidearm in that show was a Beretta 92FS Inox (which had a habit of turning into a Taurus PT92 in some scenes), and it didn't seem any bigger in his hands than mine, and I don't have big hands (just long fingers). I haven't compared a MAC-10 to an Uzi in size, so I dunno what the difference is.

:Oh, yeah, and I love how he fires his MAC/Uzi sideways, "gangsta style". He used to do that with his Beretta in "Kung Fu" as well! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Browning A5==
Do you by any chance have any [[Browning A5]] shotguns in your armory, as well as a Remington Model 11 copy, since I've noticed a few pages featuring them (like [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]'s [[Thunderball]] page).

And you never got back to me on my qeustion about blank converting revolvers. It's a little further up your discussion page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==The Rundown==
I've had [[The Rundown]] screencapped for some time now (hadn't had time to upload) but would you mind if I replaced some of your shots with mine (they are larger resolution), but if you don't want me to, I could always delete my caps, but it took me a while to save them. I've had it on my list for some time now, it would really make me happy if I could upload mine. Get back to me on this. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I realized this, so I only replaced one shot of the Remington 870 because it shows just a little bit more. You're shots are still on the page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Thanks, I felt (I guess the word is self-conceous) since I knew I was uploading more screencaps than you would have, but as you see, I add comments on the crazy movie logic and other fun facts to fill out stuff (I always have a plan when I save screencaps, so I know when I plan to label these facts early, hence I sometimes have a heavy screencap load). I try to always catch EVERY gun in a movie, so I never use scene skip and rarely fast forward. When I do fast forward, I have a strange sixth sense that allows me to see guns that are only seen briefly on even normal speed. Anyway, I'll be uploading a movie called [[Legends of the Fall]] tommorow, I'm working on it now. I think it is a perfect gun movie because it covers the early 1900s, so we see old west guns, WWI guns, and prohibition gangster guns. It's great. Incredible film too, I recommend it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Revolvers again==
Copied from above:

I have a question. I know auto pistols need to be milled and threaded to fire blanks but do revolvers need to be modified to fire reliably? I once had some acorn crimped .45 LC blanks which I put through a SAA. The primers backed out from a lack of recoil and the gun locked up. I tried putting it though a Colt M1917 and it hardly fired unless I angled it right. I've seen in movies how some of the firing pins are removed from the hammers (like the S&W 36 from [[Running Scared]]). If they do need to be modified, could you tell me how exactly? Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Thanks for clearing up the SKS, that was the only model I was aware of (not an SKS pro, only know what I've seen or held at shows) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I guess I just had crappy blanks. I can't remember the brand but they were written in french or italian or something. They were acorn blanks, not those longer movie blanks. Plenty loud though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Shoot 'Em Up==
I usually use my desktop computer for screencapping and it keeps the master images at a relatively simple size so I don't need to resize them. But I screencapped [[Shoot 'Em Up]] on my sister's HP Pavilian DV-6000 laptop because my screencapper on the desktop didn't except SEU's format. Her computer is HIGH-DEF and the images were gigantic, even after I resized them. I thought they were small enough after resizing but they were still pretty big. They certainly look nice though. You can tell based on the number of screencaps that I wasn't up to re-resizing all the images because they were a tad over sized. Next time I use her laptop to screencap (get ready for a much better documentation of the Matrix films), I'll be sure to resize them correctly. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Smith and Wesson 1006 ==

Hey, MPM, could you get me a pic of a Smith and Wesson 1006? That'd be awesome, thanks.
from ProtoAuthor.

Also, from me again, how about making an UziMac10, like in Dogs of War?
::Those guns don't exist any more. Once regular Uzis became more prevalent (including the influx of semi automatic Uzi Model A and Model B carbines that were then converted into full auto guns in the 1980s) the MAC 10s were converted back to MAC-10s. And good riddance in my book. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Dang. Well, how about the 1006?

== M1911 Question ==

I was wondering, would it be possible to take the hammer and grip safety from a [[M1911 pistol series#Colt XSE|Colt XSE]] and put them on a standard M1911A1? I was thinking this might be what was done to create [[Josh Duhamel]]'s 1911 in ''[[Transformers]]''. Any input you have on this would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:15, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

== More Requests ==

I have a couple more requests

* The Custom Mossberg 590 from ''[[Rambo (2008)]]'' and ''[[Transformers]]''

* Beretta 92FS fitted with Silencier

* M40 and M40A3 Sniper Rifles

* Barrett M82A1

Thanks

From 76..219.156.200

== Badlands image sizes ==

Hey, a user converted all the 500px images I used on ''[[Badlands]]'' to 300px, but I was wondering if that was too small? I would change it back to my original 500px (or at least 400px) but I don't want to rub anyone the wrong way by undoing what was done (if they had good reason). Also, good call on the 03A3 rifle used, I had completely misidentified it! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks for clearing that up, I appreciate it. I didn't want to cause any trouble but since you'd seen the page for sure I figured you'd know best how to handle it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer==

Hi MPM. The Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer is a completely different weapon compared to the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless. The Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer is a shorter version of the Colt 1902 Military and is chambered in 38 ACP. You don't see them that much any more since the 1911 came out. We did send one out on Public Enemies but do not know if Harry used it. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: No problem but someone at Colt was not think when they named their models. I can see the salesman trying to explain it and the customer rolling their eyes and saying what are you talking about. They had some neat weapons in those early movies. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Ever used one of these?==
While I was screencapping [[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]] (I'll be uploading it very soon), I saw in the special features that they use this special gun that fires balls of dust or spark so you don't have to set up squibs anywhere to imitate bullet impact. It looked pretty cool and I was wondering if you were familiar with these. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Some shots:
[[Image:SquibGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SquibGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SquibGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:''Mythbusters had something remotely similar on an episode a while back. I say remotely, because while they created the same mini-bombs (for lack of a better term), they hand-launched them at their door instead of shooting them.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 07:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

==Watermarked Image==
Since people have been using your images without permission, I made one of your pics with a water mark. What do you think? If you like, I'll be more than happy to add it to all your images so no one steals them.
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70watermarked.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt MK IV Series 70 with IMFDB watermark.]]
All I did was Hardlight the logo to remove the back color and faded it so it was just the logo alone. It's really easy. Get back to me. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:For now do you mind if I just warn of spoilers at the top of the page? Later I'll decide what I can get rid of (if I do). If that guy on the Rambo page is a jerk, by all means remove his images, I personally don't know him so I couldn't have known that.

Don't forget to tell me what you think of the watermark. If it is too big, I can make it smaller. Whatever you want. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up ==

Thanks for the heads up, and good luck with the shoot. It sounds cool that you're going to photograph more great guns, I can't wait to see the McMillan TAC-50 and M249 , and anything else you have, you never dissapoint. If you get more western guns, that will be great, those guns look amazing and GM45 will be thrilled. It's cool that Imfdb will have pictures that no one else has or will have. Anyway, good luck with your shoot, don't work too hard. Also, can you try to get more cool Beretta handguns like the ones you uploaded last time? sorry if I'm bugging you with Berettas alot, I'm just really anxious to see you upload a Beretta 92FS Inox, it's one of the pictures I want most, that's all. Once again, good luck. Also did you tell any other armorers about Imfdb?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, sorry I didn't respond earlier, but I have a '''burning''' request and I'm hoping you get this message before you go to CW again.

:You know those weird AKMSU clones (in 7.62x39mm) that have AKS-74U-style folding stocks? They've appeared in a zillion movies, and I know they must be the same guns being reused a lot. I think they're just full-size AK variants (Type 56s or Maadis, maybe) that have been converted with Krinkov parts kits. I have no idea whose inventory they're in, but I've seen them in a lot of movies that Mike Papac and other CW armorers worked on, which leads me to guess that CW must have at least a couple of them in inventory (unless they sub-rented from a different armory).

:Here is what I'm talking about:

[[Image:XxXAKMSU.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[XXX]]'']]

[[Image:BB2AKS-74U.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[Bad Boys II]]'']]

[[Image:A_MAN_APART-19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[A Man Apart]]'']]

[[Image:TtAKMSU-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''[[Tropic Thunder]]'']]

They've also appeared in movies like ''[[Three Kings]]'', ''[[Crank]]'', ''[[The Kingdom]]'', etc. If you were to take a picture of one of these guns, I think it would probably become our standard AKMSU photo, because probably 90% of the AKMSU-type guns I've seen in movies seem to be these same guns. If you can get one on short notice, great. If not, no worries. But have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Titles starting with "the"==
Personally I've always hated the format of putting "The" at the end, despite it being considered "prop format" and personally I like the titles the way they are. If it is absolutely necessary to make this change, go ahead, but I don't like it. I think titles look fine the way the are "MoviePropMaster2008, User:".

And for the people who make fun of us in chatrooms, FUCK EM! People make diggs at us all the time, but the ten or so admins. on the site work hard and productive and are constantly combating 1000s of anonymous users daily, which is more than most can say. We do what we do right and anyone who mocks our work is a dumbass. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Getting tired of pictures? Every time you upload more guns, I feel like I'm getting presents, because I love seeing awesome new pictures of guns, especially movie guns. I almost peed myself with excitement when you uploaded all those screen-used weapons (like the P220 from "Live Free or Die Hard") on your last update.

:The titles thing may be able to be fixed as well, without actually doing any redirects. There may be a way to sort titles so that the word "The" is ignored. I know that on my iPod, bands that have the word "The" before them are grouped by the next word in their names on my "Artists" list. It can't be that hard to find a command which sorts them differently. I'll see if I can find it.

:And I share GM's sentiments on the people's who talk shit about us. They're just lames. Who cares what they think? If they were better than us, they'd actually make their own sites that are as thorough and informative as ours. Besides, I think IMFDB has already been influential in a lot of ways. I already see people on other gun boards distinguish now between a basic "AK-47" and a Norinco Type 56 look-a-like, which seems to be a trend we helped start, now that we've told people what to look for. For every negative comment I read about IMFDB, I see 10x as many people who love our site. Besides, how else do you explain the ridiculous number of views we've had in the last year? (nearly 3x as many in 2008 as 2007, the first year of operations) The numbers don't lie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

::Nah, dude, I don't disagree with you that it's annoying, what I'm saying is that there may be a way to fix it besides doing re-directs (which is going to take ages if you want to do it). You may be able to fix the page code so that the listing ignores the word "The" if it comes at the beginning of a title. That way, a movie like "The Dark Knight" would be grouped under "D" even if it was listed as "The Dark Knight" instead of "Dark Knight, The". -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==re: AK issues==

No, I don't hate you...actually, I've had the same thought myself for a while. The AK-47 page is getting too long and now includes variants it wasn't really meant to include. However, my idea for the solution is a bit different - that is, I'm not so sure we need to give the guns their own pages based on country of origin.

Broadly speaking, I think the AK-47 page should be limited to AK variants that are 7.62x39mm. You and I both know that the 7.62x39mm AKs which appear in movies and TV shows are the same types that used to be imported to the U.S. in the 1980s as civilian sporters. What that means is that the list is actually pretty limited - you've got the Egyptian Maadis, the Chinese Type 56s, the Hungarian SA-85Ms, and the Yugo M70s, and that's pretty much it. Of course, we've also seen the Romanian AIMS in a couple of movies (like "44 Minutes"), so maybe that one, too. So we can still classify the 7.62x39mm AKs by country, but on the SAME page instead of separate pages. You've told me yourself that armorers mostly stick to the old 1980s-vintage AKs and don't ever buy any of the newer guns (like the crappy Romaks and the Century Arms POSs), so doesn't that make our job pretty simple? We don't necessarily have to look for the more obscure derivatives that will only (at best) show up in movies filmed in countries where those guns were manufactured.

Besides grouping the 7.62x39mm AKs by their country of origin, I propose we also do the following:

*-'''Put the Norinco Type 84 on the [[AK-74]] page instead''': The logic being, the Type 84 often stands in for the AK-74 in American and Canadian movies/TV shows ("Stargate: SG1" being a good example), so why not put it on a page with the gun it's meant to imitate?
*-'''Move ALL AK-100 variants to their own page''' Even though they're basically modest updates of the classic AK-47 design, they're still different enough by name that I think they need their own page.
*-'''Keep any AK derivatives that are significantly different on their pages''' What this means is that something like the AEK-971 should not be on the AK-47 page. And likewise, the Galil and Valmet (which already have their own pages) need to be kept there.
*-'''Refuse to allow any foreign-made derivatives that don't appear in at least a few movies'''

How do you think that sounds? Maybe my defensive reflex is a bit strong on this, but I do really want to keep weapons that are basically identifiable as AK-47s and AKMs on one page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Question:
Hey, MPM, how do movie effects people do RPG fire? Is it all CG, do they launch a dummy tip and edit it out, or what?

== Re: Titles ==

I knew somebody would start changing the titles like that eventually, a few users complained about it, and a website even noted to look for titles beginning with '''The''' in the '''T''' section. The redirects you did worked out great, I think the movies with '''The''' in their titles will be easier to find that way, good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, that makes things much easier! Should we also do the same with titles beginning with "A" or "An"? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
I just finished [[The Boondock Saints]] and am in a pause between movies, were you planning to do this one or can I (I noticed you added shots)? It's been at the bottom of my pile for a while and it wouldn't hurt to start digging from the bottom now. If you have stuff saved, you can of course do it, but if not let me know if I can. Thanks. Great gun pics you've uploaded, we've needed a G36 for a while and the StG 44 is excellent. Superb work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I did the Matrix on my sister's laptop, which puts out some really big pics. I sent them to my desktop and uploaded them on the site but didn't have time to resize them. They look fuzzy? I thought they looked great. I'll be doing the other Matrix movies on the laptop too, but I'll try to resize those shots first. I'm super pissed right now because I screencapped Mr. & Mrs. Smith and 50 of the screencaps didn't save. So now I have to go back and grab the shots, many of which are from gun heavy scenes. So I had planned to upload the caps by tommorow but my crappy as computer has other plans. BTW, I only use my sister's laptop when the DVD doesn't have the right format and won't play on my screencapper (a rarity, but it happens), so I don't use it too often. It's her computer so I obviously can't bogart it for my own means alone. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Your images look a lot better, but didn't you buy this special machine that screencaps VHS and DVDs? I'd assume that would put out better images than any simple DVD player like mine. If I had put more time into it, I could have brightened the pictures to look better (I do that more commonly when adding caps to one of your pages, because my caps look like crap next to yours if I don't edit them). Compared to my regular desktop images, you can see why I would find the laptop ones more appealing. You'll see when I upload Mr. & Mrs. Smith that I brightened the pics. My personal favorite screencap from the Matrix is the Desert Eagle cycling blanks, it just looks cool. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::BTW, how come your images are so small? Usually when I upload images, they are just a little bigger than the sample picture with a full resolution preview. Yours have no higher resolution. Do you resize them to this point to save space or does your screencapper just produce small pics? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Admins==
I had figured he had had quite a probabtion period, but the one with power makes the decisions, not me. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== re: Congratulations! ==

Thanks! It's an honor to be a part of such a talented group. And I certainly understand, no need taking a risk when it's not necessary! While we're on the subject of controlling some of the stuff anonymous users add, I recall seeing a section about spoilers on the forums. I noticed today that someone had changed some of the words on my page for ''[[Godfather Part III, The]]'' to include some spoilers about the action happening (such as main characters getting killed, etc.) I realize this user was probably trying to help others specifically note when the gun was used, but that's what the screencaps are for. Would it be rude to rollback some of this user's suggestions to the previous format (which was more vague about deaths and killings in the film) or were they correct in adding this information? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: Spoilers ==

Absolutely, that helped a ton! There are also a few in the ''[[Scarface]]'' page which, in my opinion, needs some revamping (especially since its one of our most popular pages). I'm thinking of capping it sometime soon when I have about four hours to spare, so hopefully it'll look very cleaned up relatively soon. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Mr. & Mrs. Smith pistols==
I had them IDed as a Browning Buckmark Camper with a suppressor and a Ruger Mk III with a suppressor. Your caps are a tad clearer than mine, and now I'm even more sure I was right. (I'll likely use your caps instead of mine since they show the guns better)

As for the big room full of pistols, that is awesome. I can just image that when you open the door, blinding light shines through and a choir sings. I could spends hours upon hours in there.

BTW, the Beretta 93R pic looks great.

I'm almost done working on M&MS, it's a big movie and has been taking me a long time to finish. I've also brightened my caps so they look nice. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Gun Room Pic ==

Just saw the pic you posted of the Stembridge handgun room, and to quote [[James Earl Jones]] in ''[[The Hunt for Red October]]'': '''"Mother of god..."''' [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, I love when you post the pictures of vaults/armories and such. Thanks for sharing those with us. Also, the new gun pics lately (the G36, Sturmgewehr, Beretta 93R, etc.) are much appreciated! Sorry I haven't been around as much lately; I have kind of a lot going on right now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== RE: You might get a kick out of this ==

Wow, all I can say is Handgun Heaven! That collection truly is amazing, it has everything from Flintlocks to Semi-Automatics, I enjoy it when you take pictures of vaults and museum cases, they're really cool. Btw, the G36 rifles, the Beretta 93R, and the other photos you uploaded this past week are amazing, thank you for uploading.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Who supplied armorers [[CornerShot|CornerShot's]] ==

I been to every gun selling site and read every youtube video and could not ever find a
[[CornerShot|CornerShot]] on auction. Probably because CNN said this weapon system will onfortunately not be sold to civilians. Were these weapons systems real or replicas if they were real how could armorer's get them when they originated from IRAQ?[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1993]] 22:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== gun room picture ==

They have an incredibly impressive collection there! That seems like one of those places that once you enter, you'd never want to leave! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==SP89 used in ''The Rock''==
Hi, I would like to know more about the H&K SP89 used in The Rock (1996).

Was it actually, based on a H&K SP-89? or just a H&K MP5k plus a SP89 type front grip?

Also,i would like to know What's the trigger set of it? 0-1? S-E-F? or with Navy type?

Would you mind to post a photo of it?

Thx a lot~

[[User:Friendsever|Friendsever]]

==Proper Quote==
That was my bad, I could have sworn he said "Kids." Thanks for clearing that up and going through the effort of screencapping it with subtitles. I'm working on the Glocks now, then I won't have much more to add. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Reply==
I'd probably stick my hand in the cubby with the MP5K-PDWs or the one with the sawed off/pistol grip shotguns below it to the left.

As for the "Colt 25", it is indeed a Colt 1908 Pocket chambered in .25 ACP, but most newcomers (and the person who made the page) know the cheap airsoft gun's name, which is the "Colt 25". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I was reading the Dawn of the Dead page, and I agree that the M16 they used looks more real than an Armscor. I own an Armscor M1600, it hits almost dead-on at 80yards but the pistol grip cracked so I don't use it much anymore. It hardly looks like an M16 at all. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::How do I get my own room like that? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Imagine if you will....... ==

Wow, how big is Cinema Armory? I would look in the one that the green Beretta looking handgun in it. What is that green handgun anyway? That is a very cool picture btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

==Sigma SW9F==

Thanks so much for that one! It's cool that we now have a standard black Sigma as well as the grey one. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==
I don't know. I had originally changed the Mustang because it had its own page and added it to the 1911. Basically it is still a Compact 1911 variant in .380 ACP (even refered to as Colt Government Model .380 by some and derived from such), but then again they make the Imbel M973 in 9mm and the Imbel MD1 in .38 Super Auto and both of them are fit for the 1911 page and based on the 1911 model. So my vote is no. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re: Chamelot Delvigne Model 1873==
The Chamelot Delvigne Model 1873 was issued in the white only they were never blued by the French. Strange to us that someone would issue a bare metal weapon any finishing or caliber mods were done by gunsmith here in the states. We had ten of them at Ellis and they were beautiful in the white. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re: Die Hard 2 "MP5s"==

I don't think we can call the MP5A3s in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'' "fake" MP5A3s because if you look closely, they don't seem to be partial conversions. On Stewart's MP5, you can see that it has a barrel with three attachment lugs, and the lower receiver has a pushpin (for swapping out different types) and a flipper magazine release. The partially-converted HK94s wouldn't have any of that stuff.

The MP5 handled by McClane (the one with the scope) may or may not be an HK94 partial conversion; I will have to check my DVD to be sure. But for now, I'm just going to call them MP5A3s because unless the gun is a partial HK94 conversion, we shouldn't call it a "fake" MP5 (even though we both know that 99% of transferable MP5s in the U.S. were actually converted from HK94s). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, I don't disagree with you that we should separate the HK94s from the MP5 if they are '''partial''' conversions. I've been trying to do that more and more often myself (see my ''[[Air Force One]]'' page, for instance). But the only thing I'm saying is, '''the Die Hard 2 MP5s are ''not'' partial conversions.''' Therefore, we can't really call them "fake". I think your eye just slipped. The ones in the movie are the full conversions which are visually indistinguishable from standard MP5A3s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

::Just checked my DVD. The scoped MP5A3 used by McClane is also a full conversion (it has an SEF lower and barrel lugs, which are visible when he pulls it out of the snow, takes out the mag, and realizes it's loaded with blanks). But it's all good, since we're on the same page now, as you said. ;)

::I do appreciate the new pics! The AKMS and SL8 are quite nice, but the main one I was happy about was the S&W Sigma SW9F you gave me for my ''[[American Dragons]]'' page. Even though the Sigma doesn't appear in too many movies, it's really great we have one those now! Thanks again for all your hard work! As far as new users making too many gun pages...screw 'em. I mentioned my stance on this in that topic on the forum. Check it out.

::Oh, yeah, and did you see that we were able to use your Daewoo DP51/K5 picture on the page for the game ''[[Combat Arms]]''? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Smith & Wesson Model 60 Hammerless ==

I was wondering, did you ever upload a picture of a [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] with a shaved hammer? I could have sworn we had a pic of such a gun here but when I went looking for it for the ''[[CSI: NY]]'' page I couldn't find one. Any help you could provide on this would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Beast of War'' Screenshots ==

I love the new screenshots, way better than the crappy Youtube stills I had up. Thanks a lot for screencapping this page for me. One note though; the tank used in the film is actually a Ti-67; a T55 that was modified by the Israeli's , most notably having the main gun upgraded from the original 100mm D-10T to a western-built 105mm L7 gun (the same kind used in the American M60 Patton and the earliest version of the M1 Abrams). Thanks again for the new screencaps, looking forward to seeing the rest of them. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks so much ==

Thank you so much for the 870, it looks amazing! I'm wondering the same thing, maybe he wanted to mock the 870 up to look like a Mossberg 590 with Ghost ring sights. But we got to admit, it sure does look badass, thanks again for the shotgun. if you need anything, just ask.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Thanks for the Beast updates ==

I saw this film several times on TV a few years back, but I haven't been able to catch more than Youtube clips (where the previous low-res screenshots came from) lately. Some of the info came from those clips, while the rest came from memory and research on IMDB and Wikipedia. As for the screenshot captions, I don't mind at all, makes my job easier. I remember the film also has a firearm-related Rudyard Kipling quote at the beginning. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Dawn of the Dead Shotgun ==

If anyone deserves thanks it's you, but you're welcome. Also, since we're talking about shotguns, do you think you could get an old wood stock set on a Mossberg 590 for the Dead Presidents page? ~[[User:yournamehere|Yournamhere]] (I forgot my name, silly me.)

== Re: Dawn of the Dead Shotgun ==

Thanks again, it looks even more menacing now, a true zombie killer. One question, did you have to do something specific to the shotgun to get the sights on? such as drilling holes?. Anyway, thanks again for the shotgun, it was well worth the wait.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Omega Man pictures ==

Hey great work on the OM page. I don't have the ability to capture stills from a DVD with my PC (I don't think I do) so way to go. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Yep I'm a fan of Omega Man. ==

I'm forty-one and I remember going to a drive in with my parents back in the summer of 73 and watching Omega Man. It was the second feature, but dad says that I stayed awake for the entire movie. Pretty impressive for a five year old.

I own a copy of I Am Legend, but I prefer OM. Own both actually.

The only guns I own from the movie are a 1911A1 and a 1903A3.Whoops sorry I do own an M-1 carbine as well. I own several S&W revolvers , but unfortunately they never make an appearance in the movie. And I belong to a couple Omega Man websites. For those who like the movie.

I don't own any selective fire weapons. Out of my price range right now.

My wife hates it. Oh well. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: Orphaned Image==
It belonged to the ''[[Quigley Down Under]]'' page, but I had replaced all the images later on since QDU was my first page I screencapped and had all widescreen shots. I didn't know that if you saved over an image, it eventually stopped getting stretched, and I wasn't an Admin. yet so I couldn't delete them myself. I deleted that image and any other from that movie that pop up in random images. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Mauser Rifle Series==
I was wondering since you added the Mauser 98 to the page if you think the Gew 98 should be on the same page instead of a separate page? I was thinking that it should be for everything else except the popular Gew98 ans K98k rifles. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: You rock on the Mauser photos they are beautiful. At Ellis we had 1891, 1895, 1898. Model 1935 and VZ's I just have to find my repair records before I list them. Thanks Steve

==re:==

I'm in the habit of making LOTS of new redirects, meaning that I do new pages for gun variants that we have grouped on particular pages, and then I redirect to the group page. The advantage is that it makes it simpler to insert gun page links when I'm doing a movie/TV page. Like, who wants to write '''<nowiki>[[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Tactical|Heckler & Koch USP Tactical]]</nowiki>''' when you can just write '''<nowiki>[[Heckler & Koch USP Tactical]]</nowiki>''' and be done with it? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

==Heckler & Koch MP7A1 and Heckler & Koch 416 ==

HI MoviePropMaster, I'm Gerry.I want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload pictures of a Heckler & Koch MP7A1 and the Keckler & Koch 416 I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.

==XM16E1 Photo==
Hey MPM, I hope that it did not upset you on the XM16E1 photo it was a configuration that most people have never seen or own. It was just one that was missing and the mod was a flash hider, chrome carrier to go with We Were Soldiers. If I did sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Your Break==
You deserve a break, you've done a lot of hard work for us. I hope you find taking pics fun again, just remember, you alone have taken more movie gun pics than any other on the net. It was my fault for starting the whole Frankengun thing, but I think the best way to fix it is to not allow it from now on, and credit you for any of the ones in current use. I can imagine it must be frustrating to have people messing with your work. It annoys me how people like Kin93 almost MASS-PRODUCE your images in this manner, and I don't see your name anywhere on "his" pics. At least Steve told you he used your M16A1 and M16 pics. Kin93 never even contacted you. Anyway, hope your hiatus ends soon, we all love your gun pics and apoligize for those who don't appreciate them. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:On the one hand, I think you definitely deserve a break. IMFDB doesn't pay the bills, after all, and anything you do for us should be done because you enjoy it, not because you feel obligated to do it.

:On the other hand, I don't think you should take it too personally if IMFDB users make "franken gun" pictures. Yes, they should give you credit (as Kin93 failed to do), but it doesn't mean they don't appreciate your work. Whenever someone does that to you again, you should warn them that you don't like them butchering your work, but please don't treat all of IMFDB as if we're like this. Besides your gun pictures (which are awesome), you're one of the most valuable people on this site. Even if you never post another gun picture again, your presence would be greatly missed. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Break ==

Sorry to hear about your most recent problem, and I agree, they should atleast give you credit when they edit your pictures, that's what I would do. And believe me, there are a quite a few users on here who apprecite your work. You are one of the most important users on this site because you have helped bring this site very far, and if there is anyone who deserves a break, it is definitely you. Hopefully you'll be able to find taking gun pictures fun again, and come back, but until then, enjoy your break. You will be missed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

'''Edit''' MPM2008, When you come back, I think you should see this:[http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MK23]

==RE: THANKS! for the note of support==
I'm glad to see your back and I'm sorry you had a tough time. We all missed you though, the site felt a little less complete without you. Sorry to hear that guy took credit for your work, I'm sure he'll get his soon enough >:)

BTW, check out the Dirty Harry movies, I've been working on them lately (I finished [[Enforcer, The|The Enforcer]] most recently) and am trying to get [[Sudden Impact]] done by tommorow. Anyway, welcome back! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: THANKS! for the note of support ==

Glad to have you back, and sorry to hear about the tough time you had during your break. Sorry to hear about the shotgun too, hopefully the credit found it's way to who it really belongs to. And I find those Franken Gun picture amusing too, everytime I see one, I wonder to myself how they do that, but figured it was photoshoping, did you see this one?:

[[Image:CustomNorthHollywoodAR15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Hybrid gun made to resemble the firearm used by Emil Matasareanu in the North Hollywood Shootout - 5.56mm]]

About the Wiki page I showed you, [[User:Cutaway|Cutaway]] uploaded your picture of the Mark 23 with the supressor on it on that site, but I also contacted MT2008 about it as well, and Cutaway agreed to take it off the page, don't be hard on Cutaway though, I don't think he knew that you didn't want your pictures on other sites.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

==Glad you're back!==

I'm relieved you came back. The past couple weeks just have not been the same with you gone. I totally understand what you said, though.

In your absence, we've still been enforcing rules regarding your pictures. Alienqueen and I took care of the pictures that Cutaway posted on the Gunpedia Wiki (he complied with my request to remove them). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

==Welcome back!==
Hey MPM, Glad that you are back hope things went well. I have been putting in some long hours down south also. Good to see your back at it. If there is anything we can do to help let us know. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re: AMT Pistols page==
I haven't been talking to Rockwolf actually, I just figured I'd make the page because we needed it. It's understandable that no one wanted them, they are ugly and fire mostly unique cartridges. They are like 1911s on steroids. Anyway, I had Auto Mags on the mind because of the Sudden Impact page I'm soon to upload. BTW, how the hell do you write Auto Mag? Is it Auto Mag, AutoMag, or Automag? I figured it was the first since that's what's written on the gun in your pic (which looks great). That's a 180, right?

I'm proud of my Auto Mag III picture, since it was originally a gun on a rug, but I took the rug out. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::So should I change the page name to [[AMT Auto Mag Pistol Series|AMT AUTOMAG Pistol Series]]? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re: Executive Decision==

Thank you, sir. Though I think did get maybe a ''little'' carried away with pics of the Glock 19 (seven total, one of which shows just the magazine). Usually, when I do that, it's because a movie has made me enamored with the particular gun that gets more screencaps than the rest. Watching "Executive Decision" has given me the worst urge to go out and blow $$$$$ I need for tuition on a Gen 1 Glock 19.

''When I see the 'crazy terrorist' with the Norinco Type 56-1 I always expect him to scream "I Blow You! Mother Bitches!!!!!" hahahahahaha.''

Haha, I should have recognized him! It was indeed Shaun Toub [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0869467/] who played both the crazy(er) terrorist with the AK folder in "Executive Decision", as well as the store clerk in "Bad Boys". -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

OK, wow, it happens that you post on my Talk Page at the same time I'm writing a response on yours! Haha. Thanks for the new "44 Minutes" M16 pic. Again, whenever you get around to it...Best, [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Request==

Excuse me, but I have a request. Could you combine your Remington 870 Folding stock, Ithaca 37, and MP40 images to make the cool looking Ithaca 37 from ''[[The Professionals]]''? You just take the a pistol grip of the Remington, add it on to the Ithaca 37, and then put MP40 stock on it. I would really appreciate it. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

::Here's a picture

[[Image:Prosm37.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

==The Last Crusade==
Excellent work with the page, that was always my favorite Indy film (Indiana Jones, I mean). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm glad to here you're doing all the Indiana Jones films, I was so sick of how crappy they were. And I agree, your screencaps look very clear. I have to brighten and sharpen my images just so they can even come close to yours. I just finished brightening and resaving all the Sudden Impact caps so I'll upload them tommorow if all things go well. I should probably go to sleep, it's 3:35am. But tommorow's Saturday and it's spring break from school so who cares? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Redacted==
I can image that movie offended you (and other veterans), it made all soldiers look like pyschopathic rapists. But I cannot say I would want it removed. Why? Because then we are just as one-sided as the admins. on Wikipedia who delete all the negative crap about President Obama (remember how much we criticized that?). While the movie is offensive (as is Bowling for Columbine), they still have guns so who are we to say they are unfit to be documented on here. (but understand I still am for what you said, the movie was very offensive).

I'm a good example of why Redacted should stay on the site (about 4 years ago). I watched the film but didn't know all the guns that well, and thought "I wonder what they are using. What AK is that?" Even though I didn't like the movie these questions still arose. I doubt I'm the only person in the world who's done this, so those who hated the movie but still wanted to know what guns were used are at a loss.

So my vote for deletion is "no". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Edit: I understand you aren't picking on me, you have every right to hate the movie, as does every veteran. I just think that how you feel about a movie doesn't mean it should be removed from the site. Hopefully you understand what I mean and not think I'm being on sided or anything. I totally agree with you about the film. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== imfdb is now controversial? ==

When did this happen? I haven't seen or heard anything.And if the site is now controversial who is upset about us? [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==V.I.P.==
Great job with [[V.I.P.]] so far. I haven't seen that show in a million years. I finally got the Dirty Harry movies done! Now I have a ton of other Eastwood films I'm going to do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm not positive on what it is but it ''might'' be a Beretta 21A Bobcat threaded for suppressor, similair to this one:

[[Image:Beretta21ABobcatSuppressed.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Beretta 21A Bobcat threaded for a suppressor - .22 LR.]]

==Fictional Firearm article moves==
I like the changes you made to the fictional firearm titles, but gramatically speaking, the apostrophe should be before the 's'. It would only be placed after if it is a plural word ending in 's'. For example, the possessive of oceans would be oceans'. If it is singular it always ends in "'s" even if the word ends in 's' such as Jesus's. Hope that helps, if you care. -[[User:Unbreakablewatcher|UW]]
::fuck I should have known that. I was tired and it was late. I will change it later. Thx. MPM

==re: Browning BDA==

Nah, unfortunately, I totally forgot about the BDA when I did the page. Gunmaster was the one who recognized it based on your picture. For some reason, I kept thinking it was a Beretta of some kind and spent 20 minutes searching Beretta photos. My brain is kinda dead right now because I let myself get talked into running 8 miles this afternoon, on only 4 hrs. sleep.

I don't think it's a problem if you want to create pages for some new guns that may/may not be in movies. The only thing I find annoying is when people make pages for guns that ''couldn't'' appear in movies because they're only rare prototypes or variants that you know armorers wouldn't have (like the original SR9). Also, if you ever want to upload your MAG-7 shotgun picture, we can put it on the ''[[Romeo + Juliet]]'' page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Barb Wire==

Hey,

It's awesome you're screencapping ''[[Barb Wire]]'', but I thought I'd make some comments here (so we don't have edit conflicts) after looking at the screencaps with my eagle eyes ;)

*(1.) The SIG-Sauer is a P228, not a P226. You can see in the first shot that the trigger guard is rounded, not squared like on the 226. Denzel Washington used an identical gun (maybe even the same one) in the movie "Virtuosity", with that same custom laser-control grip. LMO has a picture of it on their site under their "Movie Guns" section.
*(2.) The gun you IDed as a Browning Hi-Power also seems to be the two-tone P228.
*(3.) The Congressionals' M16s look to me like the MGC replica M16s, except with A2 handguards and A1 flash hiders. If you look closely, it seems they have the same style forward assist as the MGC M16s.

Here's the "Virtuosity" P228, which, again, looks like it's the same one that's used in "Barb Wire": http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/Virtuosity

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

:''also you notice that there's a bunch more guys posting FULL frame screengrabs? versus widescreen? should I replace a full frame shot with a widescreen of the same shot (thus showing more of the picture?)..... MPM''

:I don't think it matters TOO much. I use widescreen myself when I can, but full frame is fine, too. As long as the guns are visible, that will do. :)

:As far as replacing the Franken-guns, go for it. I've said before - nobody's entitled to complain when you replace images because yours are better (and they involve actual effort besides just going to Google or Photoshopping other pics). However, I'm starting to wonder how we can even begin to get every single variant. I mean, let's face it...there are SO many different Franken-M16s, H&Ks, etc. that you'd go insane trying to get every little variation. I wouldn't sweat it too much. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

About the picture, remember when the servers switched back in October? Well, two images you uploaded were lost. I wasn't sure if you noticed or not, so I took that image from the old server and uploaded here, and credited to you.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== images ==

What with people overwriting images with the same images that are already on the site?

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Glock23.jpg]
[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg]

--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==Crank: High Voltage==
I was watching the red band trailer for [[Crank: High Voltage]] and I took some caps but the video quality was so crappy only one of the pics was even close to site-worthy. Since you seem pretty good at finding excellent quality HD trailers, I was wondering if you could take a look at it. That is if you aren't too busy. Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I watched ''[[Enemy at the Gates]]'' last night and saw some guns you missed, so I added the caps to the page, as well as a few minor add ons to the existing guns. It's your page of course so you decide what can stay or go. I tried to make every shot I took very important and took as few as possible. You may notice my images match yours pretty close, I finally figured out how to match your cap format. I need to brighten a little more though, they still look too dark. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
: Like I said, it is ''your'' page, you can remove any images I added if you don't like them. I only added one image to the Mosin Nagant section so Joseph Fiennes could have an image for his page if needed, and added two to the sniper version, because they were pretty good close ups. I also added three shots to the Kar98k sniper section, although the closeup in his room isn't the best so I suppose it could go. It's all up to you. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE:==

I definitely do not remember that one being in the third "Die Hard" movie. Our page doesn't have it, either. Hmmm...

As for the last post: '''"All you need for a movie is a girl and a gun."''' - Jean-Luc Godard (and yeah, he was a commie bastard, but he spoke wisdom on this point) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:A DEA agent used one in ''[[Con Air]]'' if you were wondering. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Yeah, I'm replying to what you said in Matt's talk page. Now that I think of it, that ''could'' be th gun Pamela Anderson is holding. I'll check out Bionic Woman now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Category:B&W==
Hey MPM, I like your new sub-category for B&W films I came up with an idea for you. How about a category for Widescreen since it did not exist until after World War II somewhere about 1951 or 1952. Just a thought for you. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Happy Easter to you too MPM. Don't let them get to you. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Bionic Woman==

Nice job on the page! It needs gun photos and links, of course, but we'll get on that. Anyway, here are some quick observations...

*(1.) The MP5s you IDed as MP5A4s seem to have collapsible stocks, which makes them MP5A5s.
*(2.) The Serbian gangster's pistol, which you IDed as an S&W 5904, looks like a Browning BDA (the DA version of the Hi-Power, not the BDA-380).
*(3.) John got the last two right...they are a CZ-75 (or some clone) and a two-tone Walther P99, respectively.

Take care. Hope you had a happy Easter! Also, when I get home (I'm at work now...ugh) I'll have to put in my "Die Hard III" DVD and see where that Seecamp 32 that's on LMO's site appeared. I really don't remember it, but I'll look for you. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==

Ah, thanks for the new gun pictures! We '''really''' needed a two-tone Walther P99 because there are a LOT of movies that have them (''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]'', ''[[Underworld]]'', ''[[A History of Violence]]'', ''[[Far Cry (2009)|Far Cry]]'', etc.) I thought about asking you for one a while ago, but decided I should let you prioritize other stuff. Also, while I don't have screencaps for it, there were Browning BDAs used by Tibetan separatists in an episode of ''[[Ultimate Force]]'', so we can use that one on that page, too.

''Also what is with the gigantic ... but blurry ... screenshots that I see other users uploading?''

What do you mean? Can you show me examples? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==Spawn AMT 380 Backup Pistol==
Hey MPM, That AMT 380 Backup Pistol that's used in Spawn is just dirty or due to the lighting. AMT built the Backups in Stainless Steel only with the frame and top of the slide bead blasted. My aunt worked at AMT and I knew Harry Sanford since I was a kid until he passed away. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, No problem on the id for the Backup. AMT which was the last name for that company had several locations. As a kid I went to two different El Monte shops and my aunt worked at both Covina and Irwindale. I think my aunt has a couple of the earlier Backups I will see if I can get a photo of them. I filled in a few blank spots on unknown weapons on pages. It was fun doing that as making new pages can get a little tiring. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT==

The AMT Backup is really nice! It's good we have a picture of one for my ''Spawn'' page. I was about to upload a Google image search result, but obviously, yours is waaayy better.

So, I checked "Die Hard III" (got through about an hour last night, another hour this afternoon) and I don't know where the hell that Seecamp .32 appears in the movie. Either my eagle eyes are failing me (possible), or LMO got their facts wrong. Or maybe it was rented for "Die Hard III" for a scene that wasn't filmed. But it appears nowhere in the finished film that I can tell. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Scarface talk page ==

Yeah, now that I read what it said you're probably right. I just assumed it was some anonymous user trying to cause trouble. Whether it was or not, you're right - the discussion there is invalid now so I got rid of it again. Thanks for prompting me to take a second look, you were definitely right. Oh and a quick sidenote, the ''[[Bionic Woman]]'' page is looking great! You certainly put a good deal of work into that it looks like. I didn't get to see it when it was on but it looks pretty good from the caps you got. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

==High Standard 8111 page==
Hey MPM,I placed your High Standard K120 Shotgun photo on this page although the page name is not correct. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] listed it by the High Standard catalog number 8111 instead of the Model name '''High Standard FLITE KING'''. If you could fix this please. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, Thanks for the correction on the page. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Thanks ==

I can certainly understand the burnout feeling, especially when working with TV shows with so many episodes. That would be great if they would get those pictures; IMFDB is certainly indebted to you for all the hard work you're doing to get us exclusive pictures like that! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:35, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Did you take this picture?==
No, I just jacked it from google and touched it up with photoshop. Feel free to replace it whenever you want. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE:==

That would be REALLY cool if you got pictures of some of the sci-fi guns. There are a lot of pics of the Moritas floating around the 'Net, but most of them are (A.) shit quality, or (B.) the rubber stunt versions. We both know yours will inevitably be 100x better! Haha.

Also, I notice you were curious about these machine pistols from ''[[Timecop]]'':

[[Image:TimeCop-AutoGunS00a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]

I don't know what this damn thing is called, but it appears in quite a few TV shows and movies. Excalibur got some GREAT pics of them appearing in ''[[Smallville]]'':

[[Image:Clownrobbers2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

They also appeared in at least one episode of the TV show ''[[Viper]]'' (which also had the ''[[Timecop]]'' Taurus PT99 in its pilot episode) and I think I remember seeing them in an episode of ''[[The X-Files]]'' as well. Some of the ones used in ''[[Smallville]]'' seem to be the same ones used in ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'', and we have a picture of a rubber stunt version:

[[Image:Gun Cylon stunt.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Do you think your Canadian armorer acquaintances would have any idea what they might be? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

That "Cylon Gun" is a different one, look at the cocking handle on the side. It's similar, but different. Also, I can get some Moritas up, though they are Watermarked from the site I got them off. -protoAuthor

== Re: Image overwrites ==

I agree with you about the overwrites, I think you should be only one who is allowed to decide whether your images are to be overwritten or not. It just annoys me when some random user overwrites one of your images when it's not theirs. BTW, Great job on you most recent gun pictures.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Old Movies==
Hey MPM, Thanks for the compliment on the old movies that I have been posting. Some of them are harder to get clean screencaps on as the master has not been restored. But that is something I a lot of in my own library so I will keep filling the empty spots. I also have westerns dating back than also those will come in due time. One more note for you as it is important to both of us SAG signed Friday and will announce Monday. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== re: bourne ==

Thanks! Yeah, I figured that because of its age and its less action-oriented story it would have less guns but it surprised me! Trying to identify that rifle really bothered me, I looked through a bunch of H&K and SIG rifles but then when I saw the side shot of it (which is much too brief), I wondered the same thing about the Ruger. That was really the only trouble I had save for the two pistols I currently have labelled as "unidentified" and the CZ-82 I had labelled as a Makarov (but GM45 helped out a good bit with identifying that, as well as noting the Beretta as an original 92 model rather than the 92S I had it labelled as). All in all it wasn't a bad movie at all, if some parts were a little slow (probably to draw in a more diverse audience rather than the typical espionage/action crowd. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 18:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

==Re: New images==

'''Nice!''' I'm so glad we have a two-tone Jericho now. It seems like every other action movie made these days features the lead bad guy using a gun in the exact same configuration. As far as getting a two-tone FS model, I think it's mostly the British armorers who use that model because as best I know, the 941FS was the only version ever sold in Europe. I think the two-tone 941FS pistols that you see in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'', ''[[Casino Royale]]'', ''[[Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life]]'', and ''[[Children of Men]]'' are all the exact same gun, because all of those shows were supplied by Crowntower, Ltd. (according to credits). It's likely that you're seeing the same pistol being reused in many films. Fortunately, there are plenty of American action movies which use the original model with the slide safety in two-tone (i.e. my page for ''[[Under Siege 2: Dark Territory]]'').

I'm also happy to have a good Benelli M3, too! Thanks again for all of these. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Nice! ==

Awesome work on the new pictures, we needed a two tone Jericho 941. From the looks of it many of the movies on here use the early model Jerichos, the only page I've seen that had a Jericho without the safety on the slide is [[District B13]]. Anyway, Thanks for the new gun pictures, they're highly appreciated. By the way, is there a such thing as a reverse two tone Jericho 941? Just wondering.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::Excellent work, I kind of missed seeing your work. Screencaps improve the site but your images complete it :). If the '94 doesn't have a saddle ring or holes for one, it isn't a saddle ring. I'd say its a Trapper Carbine, is the barrel 16"?

==Re:==

Nice picture...I would say how about a Vertec section under the Beretta 92 page? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

if you watch 2:55:58 of a bridge to far you will see german soldiers with m1 garands , I think they must have had a shortage of k98k's in this film.

== Hey MPM ==

Someone is using your Lee-enfield No1 MkIII picture in this wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Enfield_rifle
[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taps==
I remember you asked if I had Mr. & Mrs. Smith and Taps, and guess what? I bought Taps. I have it sitting in my screencapping box and will try to do it soon. I also grabbed Appaloosa, which I've been meaning to grab for a while. I'll be screencapping that now. :)

This is irrelevant, but I got to hand a Federal M201-Z gas gun today. I went to this man's house who was a former Correctional Officer, and he owns one. He said he owned a gas gun and I asked if it was a Federal M201-Z, which shocked him since most people don't know these guns off the top of their head. Needless to say I thought it was awesome. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Thank you for Troll Removal==
Thank you for removing the troll who was among other things messing with the content of the M16 page. I've gone through and undid several other posts by this person as they contributed nothing to the pages modified. Rockwolf66

==Re:Chuck guns==

An armorer from ISS has been sending me photographs of stuff from their inventory that has appeared in movies and TV shows, including the guns from "Chuck". I'm also going to be posting photos of an M1903 Springfield from "Letters from Iwo Jima" and a nickel PPK from the "Austin Powers" movies that he sent me, too.

Also, did you check out some of the pics I posted on ''[[The Spirit]]'' page? I got great pics of Samuel L. Jackson's revolvers from that movie, and of the O/U shotguns he used, plus Eva Mendes' Beretta Jetfire. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE:WTF? ==

As much as I love the Resident Evil videogames and it's guns, I would have to say no to a Samurai Edge page. The Samurai Edge is basically a Beretta 92FS with modified parts, but is still visually the same looking gun, not too different to be worth noting on anything else beside the videogame pages, mockups such as the Aliens' Pluse Rifle are a different story. Plus, not only did he make the page, but it seems that the user copied and pasted the entire article off the Resident Evil Wiki up to the placement of the images, See here [http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Samurai_Edge], and you'll notice everything is the same. I would say delete the page, but I would get word from MT2008, and GM45 before doing anything.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

:Plagiarism is a huge no-no. So, it is now gone. I would maybe say OK to an entry on the Beretta 92 pistol series page, but certainly not if everything is copied word-for-word from another Wiki. If we see that, there's no reason not to shoot (delete) on sight. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem MPM2008, I deleted the article.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

==Re: 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle==
Hey MPM, Same that people have to chisel others out of what they have. I know how that goes I just try not to think about it anymore. The 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle was at Ellis Mercantile as that was were the guns came from for Dirty Harry except for the Model 29. I looked at it and just shook my head at what they did to sporterize them. We also had the 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle that was used in the Manchurian Candidate. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Tutone Taurus PT92 AFS==
Your images are always useful. I put it on the [[Shoot 'Em Up]] page, as that is the only page off the top of my head that I know has that gun in it. Excellent work as always. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, I didn't even notice that. Again, excellent image. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Remington 700P==
MPM, as far as the PSS entry goes someone was converting all of the 700PSS entries to 700P entries. I put a bit of data on the 700 Police entry so that hopefully People will realize that not every black remington 700 is a P model. I myself own a 700P in .300 Winmag and someday I should try and get a good photo of is so that we can referance the barrel contures. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:I am changing all the 700P entrys back to PSS enties.Still as I'm not at home and I don't own a PSS I'm not going to make any judgements on if the rifles really are P models or PSS models. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

==Shotgun Blanks==
Hi MPM, I was wondering if you could help me out with something. Me and my dad are building 12 Gauge shotgun blanks with a reloading press for a movie I'm making in June with some friends, and we were wondering, is there an alternative method of packing in the power than to keep the plastic wad in? Because that plastic wad can be lethal and while we know are safety, sometimes we have to fire blanks at people. Now, he figures something like a wad of cardboard could replace it, but we don't want to try anything unsafe without some more information.

Since a box of 20 blanks is $30 bucks, we figure shotgun blanks are way cheaper to make ourselves. I hope you know a method, or else I may have to pull out the heavy kevlar vests my dad has ;). Or we are going to have to use a LOT more camera tricks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Taurus PT92 ==

Hey MPM2008, thanks for the new Taurus PT92 pictures, they're amazing, especially the two tone ones, keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, I greatly appreciate those pics, too! The one with the wood grips looks identical to the PT92 that I used to own (although I replaced the wood grips with a set of Hogues not long after I got it). And the two-tone is awesome - did you make it with ''Darkman II'' in mind? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Reply ==

You're welcome, and yeah, I remember the days when we had those crappy images. I even used to be impressed by some of them, but then when you came along, you showed we otherwise, and now I can't stand looking at airsoft images on this site. No one can shoot gun pictures better then you. And awesome work on the Mossberg 590, [[User: Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] asked for it, and there's a place for it on the [[Dead Presidents]] page, I'll be sure to put it there right now. Thanks once again, you have out did yourself once again.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem, and don't worry, I'm sure you're fine. We all get that way after alot of hard work. And by the way, is that Mossberg 590 something that should go on [[MoviePropMaster2008: IMFDB's Own Armorer|your page]]?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

:Haha, Alienqueen beat me to the punch. But I agree...of course your images are so much better than airsoft images. Remember when our SP89 image used to be a picture of an airsoft MP5K with an SP89-style hand guard? I cringe at the memory now.

:BTW, sorry I haven't been on so much recently, but between the move out of my apartment in TX and my crash-course in Arabic, I've been pretty busy. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Mossberg 590 from Dead Presidents==

Thanks for finally uploading it with the wood furniture, now the page looks cooler. I also saw you uploaded a Model 36 Flat Latch so I'll change that if it hasn't already been altered. ~[[User:yournamehere|Yournamehere]]

==Re: Inox==

Yeah, two-tone P226s are pretty common in movies. The "reverse two-tone" from ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]'' is rare (mostly because it wasn't available that way from the factory), but the normal two-tone (nickel slide, black frame, nickel controls) has been in plenty of movies. At the very least, I figured we needed one for the ''[[Face/Off]]'' and ''[[Bad Boys II]]'' pages, since the tutone P226 is very prominently featured in both of those movies.

As far as the Inox goes, whenever you can get around it, please do it. The fact that we don't have a good image of a 92FS Inox is kind of embarrassing, since the stock image used on our Beretta 92 series page has appeared on almost 75 movie/TV show pages now. The way I see it, the more a gun image appears on IMFDB, the more urgent it is that it needs to be replaced if it hasn't received the MPM2008 treatment yet.

And yes, I agree that the newer Inox Berettas are pretty ugly; the fact that the controls are now black was obviously done to lower production costs. The older ones look way better. Also, I don't think I've seen an Inox with black controls in a movie (besides ''[[Shaft]]'', which featured those cheap 8mm blank replicas that also had black controls), and as I know we agree, it's best to use guns that look identical to the ones which our visitors have seen in their favorite action films. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

==Something you should check out==

Have you seen this:

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:MostImages

This shows the most-used images on IMFDB, and of course, they're all gun images. Anyway, you can see that most of them are gun images you uploaded, but a few in the Top 25 aren't. The Browning M2 image that was uploaded by Bunni when this site was started has been on 108 pages, the Inox image has been on 74, and the M60 has been on 70.

Anyway, I mention it because I think it's a good guide for stuff to prioritize. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

==MP5K request==
I apoligize for requesting an image (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to yet or not [?]) but I've noticed that more and more movies use SEF MPK5s with the foregrips removed to make them machine pistols (including ''[[Taken]]'' which I just finished screencapping) so I figured you'd be the man to find one. Thanks, and again sorry. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== RE: Calico Weapons page ==

Great work, The page looks great. The Calico Rifles are probably the most futuristic guns I've seen, they look like something out of Star Wars. I'll be sure to keep a look out for any Calicos on movie pages, I listed Bad Boys on th page just now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

:Well, it's interesting you say that, Alienqueen, considering that the Calicos have been around for over 20 years now!

:MPM: The page looks much, MUCH better now. I suck with Calicos myself (now that they're so much harder to find), and I get lost with the different variants. Also, have you ever noticed that Calico used to call their weapons the "Liberty I" and "Liberty II"? What is with the "Liberty" nomenclature, and which guns does it apply to?

:Oh, yeah, and are you sure the ''Deep Rising'' Calicos are the M955A? Not saying you're wrong, just that I personally can't tell the barrel length with those fake rotating barrels on them. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

::OK, thanks for the explanation about the "Liberty" thing. As far as ''Deep Rising'' goes, what you are saying makes sense.

::I have one other question which you might be able to help me with...can you tell what kind of optics are used on the M1-L1s in ''[[Deep Rising]]''? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey MPM, I have a request for you. When I was at Ellis Mercantile we had a pair of custom M-100's built by LaFrance Specialties for a show. Would it be okay to change your M-100 into that configuration? Or you can set it up yourself as there is a photo of it on World Guns.ru smg .Let me know when you can. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey MPM, Ellis supplied LaFrance with M100 rifles and he made pistols out of them. They are different then the M110 pistols as they still have the rifle looks. I can mod you photo with you permission and then upload it under LaFrance Specialties M100 Calico Pistol. If it's not up to you standard on the photo when I upload it delete it.Let me know when you can. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey MPM, The LaFrance Calicos were sold when the Ellis Gun Room was sold off. I have access to the rental records for them so I can find out what show they were built for. As for a photo World Guns.ru has a photo of one from LaFrance. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey MPM, I uploaded the image of the LaFrance built M100 Calico Pistol. I know that Ellis had two of these I will check with Syd to see if they had them also. The photo is not as good as yours but it will work for now unless you modify one of you photos to match. I don't think we will ever see these in the film industry again. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Small Request ==

Hey, MPM2008, I'm not sure if you're still calling a hiatus on requests at this time, but if you're not, I would like to know if you can upload another Remington 870 Police riot shotgun like the one here [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg], but with synthetic furniture if you get the chance. Thanks, and sorry if I added to your list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Experimental Guns ==

I say get rid of any experimental or old gun pages, since they have no chance of appearing in anything anyway, Cutaway created way too many pages like that. But we should keep the ones you created since you're a movie armorer, and like you said, they're already blank adopted, so they have a chance at appearing in a movie eventually, plus they're nice pictures. So my opinion is to get rid of the experimental guns, and keep the pages you created even if they don't appear in anything because you never when you'll be called to a set or work on a movie that will need them.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

:I've already deleted a whole bunch of Cutaway's gun pages that don't appear in movies. If you want to delete any more, I think it's fine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== Greetings! ==

Hello MPM2008, I'm a new user to this site, 500Magnum. I just would like to express how I think your pictures are the bomb! I have never seen such fine looking pictures in my lifetime. Keep up all that hard work!
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magum]]

==S&W 60==
It's okay, it seems like a pretty easy mistake to make when a gun is improperly labeled by the factory. I'm actually somewhat relieved it actually IS a model 60, because now I don't have to find the image and change it to a Model 36 Satin nickel on all the captions where the image was used on a movie page. I'm glad you cleared that up. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Ich verstehe nicht==

I figured this would be your kinda movie! It even has the hottie from ''Downfall'' toting automatic weapons (though she gets killed early on, sadly). It's a pretty good movie; one of the CT analysts I used to work with recommended it to me.

I'm going to start uploading my screencaps soon. Maybe you can help me with some of the guns I'm not sure about. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:22, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

==FN 303 pic==

Thanks for the new FN303 pic-[[User:SB2296|SB2296]]

==Use of Pictures==
Hey, MPM, a friend of mine on another forum is making a continuing thread about "Fantastic Firearms". With pictures. I was wondering if I could say he could use your pictures in his article, since they're so awesome. -protoAuthor
:Also, could you get a good picture of a sawed-off Remington 870 with an Enforcer pistol grip?

==RE:==

First of all, I'm sorry I merged the Zastava M70 page without asking you. However, I didn't '''delete''' the page for that gun; I simply copied the text onto the AK-47 page and then '''re-directed''' the page to go to the Zastava M70 entry on the AK-47 page. If you type in "Zastava M70" in the search engine, it will take you to the new page.

If you want to change it back, that's cool, but I must ask you to consider whether your objections have merit. You seem to be worried that people won't be able to find the Zastava M70; if we do '''re-directs''', then this doesn't happen. And remember that our previous discussion about where to put the M70 was before we knew how to do re-directs.

Also, if SB2296 actually '''deleted''' the PSL page without doing a re-direct, then he is '''not''' doing the same thing I do. I would never want users to be confused; but I think that with re-directs, this doesn't happen. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

:The M70 may be built on an RPK receiver, but surely you can't deny that its '''role''' is that of an automatic rifle, not an LMG or squad automatic weapon (like the RPK)? Everything else about the gun is roughly AK-based (albeit with the many modifications specific to Serb needs, like the GL sight). That's how I see it - the AK-47 page is more-or-less intended for AK-type '''rifles''', not light machine guns. And the M70 is, fundamentally, still a rifle, even if it's built on an LMG receiver. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

::You raise a good point, and I actually considered moving the Galil and Valmet pages a while ago. Which raises another point - I wound up not doing it because the Valmet M78 and Galil look very different from the AK-47 or AKM, even though the receiver design is very similar. Whereas the M70 still does look like an AK, and is usually used to impersonate Russian AK variants in movies. On the other hand, I would ''maybe'' consider moving the Valmet M78 to the RPK page, since we both know that the M78 has most often been used in Hollywood to impersonate RPKs.

::Again, I don't want to sound like I'm fighting you too much or anything, and I don't want us to get '''too''' upset about this. I only raise these points because I think it's worth asking ourselves how to be consistent in our classification scheme. These are, of course, issues that are inherent to guns that don't fit into a particular page or category so easily.

::Also, before I forget...thanks so much for the new pictures you've uploaded recently! Where did you get those Howa Type 89s? It says on Wikipedia that the Type 89 was never exported out of Japan. It's also really nice that we have a good Blaser R93 picture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

==FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle Page==
Hey MPM, I changed the FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle page back to it original format and added info explaining that the weapon is based on the stamped receiver RPK and not the Dragunov. Some think that it's a SVD but it's not it's more like a Yugo .308 AK. So all in good now. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==RE: Why do people forget Category:Movie?==

Yeah, I agree with you there. It just annoyed me because it's right in the description before they create page using the box, but like you said, it's probably better if they don't. One thing I hate the most is having a visitor find their favorite movie in the Categories, and clicking on it to find a blank or poorly made page, but hopefully that problem will be phased out with time. By the way, I got rid of and deleted those crappy movie templates that [[User: Dragon]] made, so you guys don't have to worry about seeing them anymore. Best Regards.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 07:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Picture Request ==
i am really sorry to bother you with this but i would like you to take a picture of a AK-74 and AK-74M. I am really sorry MPM2008 but i love your pictures and we need a AK-74 and AK-74M Picture.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

==Bren Ten "Peregrine Falcon". I can get you a picture.==
Hey, MPM, I've got a book with a picture of the Bren Ten, I could scan that for you if you'd like. It is old and black and white, though.-protoAuthor
:Done, put it on the "Last Action Hero" page. It also appears that tutone is standard, because that picture is from a gun digest.-protoAuthor

== PT99 ==

We can use these images to the page of the PT99? - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
[[Image:MindPt99.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:TauPt99O.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

== Re: Red Heat Link ==

No problem, I think those linked headings were there for ages before you started editing. Anyway, awesome work on the page, it looks hundreds of times better now. Is the Podbyrin picture you uploaded the actual gun from the movie? It looks great.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Podbyrin ==

Yeah, I just noticed the trigger guard after I sent the message, but no, don't remove it, despite the trigger guard, it's perfect. Plus it's nice to have another unique gun on this site, and it may be the only high resolution picture of the Podbyrin on the net. Thanks again for the new picture, and by the way, thanks alot for the Two Tone M1911A1 you uploaded a few days, it's one of my favorite images on the site.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Nice Podbyrin Pic! ==

Sweet! I like that picture. I haven't seen [[Red Heat]], but I've been dying to see the Podbyrin 9.2mm. Good work MPM2008! -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

:It looks better! But please don't butcher a 92SB (which are kind of rare nowadays) to achieve the same effect in real life! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::I can't even tell it is photoshopped. You may have noticed my comment on the Podbyrin page noting the wrong trigger guard. Maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't a Walther P38 trigger guard be better suited, since the gun is a "P38 on steroids"? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Sorry MPM2008, I cut and pasted your sig block by mistake as a quick means of leaving my signature. I sometimes have the habit of pasting and modding words to get things done quicker, anyway i have corrected the mistake on the talk page - [[User:Cutaway]] 03:21AM (UTC)

==Matrix screencap==
I noticed you replaced my screencap with this:

[[Image:Matrix-TwinMP5Kfirea.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

If it is any consolation, I had planned to reupload all of the images resized, sharpened, and brightened. Now that school will be over at the end of next week, I'll have more free time to get it done (as well as the other Matrix films). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:It's no big deal or anything (and I did think it was cool you grabbed the same frame), I just thought I'd let you know incase you had planned to replace my screencaps or something. My sisters laptop stretches images for some reason, I can fix that too but it is a tad harder... - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I didn't do it to be immature, I did it because your images make mine look like crap in comparison and I figured it stood out too much. Even with all the image editing I did I couldn't get the color contrast correct. Sorry... - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::It's alright, I understand your frustration and I've definately run into petty people on the net before. Keep an eye out for Matrix Reloaded, it's my next project. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Czech BRNO VZ24 Mauser==
Hey MPM, The Czech BRNO VZ24 Mauser Rifles built before the war were similar to the M24 Yugo or 1935 Peruvian with straight bolt handle, long handguard and different rear sight. It was during the war that the Germans changed them to K98K standard. We had them both in Ellis Mercantile pre-war VZ24 and wartime production. I think that if it is a VZ24 wartime production it should be in the K98k page as they were K98k but the pre war rifles should be on the Mauser Rifle page. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Small Request==
MPM, I know you're not taking requests right now, but I have a small one compared to my last request (The Proffessionals Ithaca 37; I'm sorry about adding it to your to-do list). Could you possibly create a Cobray M11/9 with a MAC-11 style stock (the parts are interchangable, right)? We could use it for our ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' and ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' pages. Thanks and have a great summer. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

==CZ75 WITHOUT Ring Hammer==
Hey, MPM, protoAuthor here. Do you have an early-edition CZ75? One without the ring hammer, but with the...damn, forget the term, but the 1911-looking hammer. Just wondering if you could get a picture of one up here, for articles like Gunsmith Cats. No biggie if you don't, I can probably find a good picture on JC Devine some day-protoAuthor

==Seven Days==

Yes, I am an absent-minded moron. I admit it. I even checked the page history and then forgot who I was planning to address. :)

Anyway, watching the AVIs of ''[[Seven Days]]'' has made me realize what a ridiculous number of franken-M16s there are in the biz. This show has some of the same XM177 mock-ups seen in ''[[The Rock]]'' and other movies/TV shows - the ones that have M16A2 receivers but chopped barrels with the fake XM177-style compensators. I've seen some episodes that also feature M16 SP1s with A2 hand guards and A1 flash hiders (just like in ''[[The X-Files]]''). Any chance you'd be willing to do some more franken-M16 pictures, or let me Photoshop a few? (of course, I won't do it without your permission)

Here's a couple from Season 1 episodes:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-00061.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00067.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00023.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00040.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Thanks again. Hope work hasn't been too bad for you. I just watched a TV show where an actor threw down his M16A1 (a real one, not one of the rubber stunt versions) and thought of what you told us in that forum topic. Haha. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Honoring Actors who have passed away ==

Read your suggestion about the addon for the pages of deceased actors/ actresses, and I think it'd be a good idea. I also have a couple other additions for that list, namely [[Alexander Godunov]] and [[Heath Ledger]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's a great idea. I could find some good screenshots of Carradine from the Kill Bill movies if you want, so we don't grab a google image or something. (edit: I checked the page, your image is just fine). It's a shame about Carradine, not the most honorable way to go :( - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Hey MPM, I think it's a GREAT idea to honor the actors that have passed away. I think that it would raise the level of IMFDB another notch considering that people from the industry are now checking out this site more often. What ever you do on this I will use on a lot of my pages since it's mostly B&W and those actors are gone for the most part. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
Glad you liked the Heston photo with his DOB and DOD. That was my contribution. I think you're onto something.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
== Re: Godunov? ==

According to his Wikipedia article, he passed away in May 1995 due to a combination of alcohol abuse and Hepatitis complications. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==

That's a very good idea, I say go for it. I would be great to honor some of the greatest actors seen in movies. [[Roy Scheider]] is a good one too, I was going to put something on the Jaws page for him, but I wasn't sure how it would work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Over reacting ==

Ok, I might agree the Team America one deleting might have been over doing it. I was just pissed off that no one cares about South Park, The Simpsons, and American Dad, not to mention Family Guy. I see HUGE discussions on what kind of weapons they are using when clearly most of them were fictional guns drew up because the guy drawing doesnt know a thing about guns or wasnt told to be more detail with them, the rest of the shows look like doodles, why make the guns look like guns. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== VG guns ==

Well some games can be forgiven to be a little bit lack of detail, but quite a few games do go out, record the sound of the real gun shots and use those in the final production, the bigger problem most gamers has with VG guns is more on their accuracy and power compared to the real thing. VG developers sometimes significantly just make guns that would be powerful and accurate as hell weak as fuck for the sake of game balance. And going with Modern Warfare 2, some of the guns are just stupid for what real world special forces would use. I mean the Bushmaster ACR? I can see how it has military uses, but I don't even think it was even considered for military use. Russian Ultranationalist using AUGs and FAMAS? Spas 12s? Oh yeah and the one big thing a Kriss Super V. That thing last I heard wasn't even in full production yet and they somehow have Russian terrorists get ahold of one? At least with COD4, they were semi consistent with what primary guns people use, the SAS and Marines using M4 weapons, the enemy using AKs, but the random USPs, Berettas and the one mission where you as the SAS trooper holding and M24 sniper rifle was just piss poor. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== RE: VG guns ==
I agree with you MPM, but only because most of those experimental and rare guns are pieces of shit. For exemple, look at how many games have the XM8! The XM8 sucks ass and video game developers love them. The same thing happens with the XM29. It's a piece of shit and video game developers love them because it looks futuristic and cool. It also happens wtih the SPAS-12. It's really fucking weird to see a discontinued, really expensive shotgun being used by police or Military soldiers in video games.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

:Speaking as someone who first got into modern military/LE weaponry by doing weapons skins for ''[[Half-Life]]'' mods in my teens, I can say that most game dev teams really have no common sense when it comes to weapons. The SPAS-12 is actually a very good example. I remember on my first mod (which never got finished), there was a lot of disagreement amongst the members of my team over what type of shotgun we were going to have. Most members wanted the SPAS-12 because they all thought it looked cooler, while I wanted a pistol-grip Mossberg with heat shield (I had just been to a gun show where I had the chance to hold one, and being 17, I thought it was the coolest gun ever). Ultimately, the SPAS-12 won out when we voted on our forum. Of course, this was an unprofessional mod being designed by high school and college students, but most of the professional teams in the business aren't that much different - the designers are all geeks who have zero real-life experience with firearms. Whenever they choose which guns are going to appear in the game, the team members almost always pick what they've seen in other video games or their favorite movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== RE: SPAS 12 ==
Yes, the SPAS-12 apears in movies all the time, however, i was talking about how it's weird to see SPAS-12s being used by Militarys and terrorist/criminals because they are discountinued(I probably spelled that wrong) and expensive. The SPAS-12 does needs a place in IMFDB. So does the XM8 even though the only XM8s that appear in movies and television are Mock-ups like the ones in XXX 2.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Understood==

Yeah, I should've responded on Oliveira's page. I got carried away again... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== thank you for editing ==

Thank you for your editing of things specifically the star trek page which looks great now. You're Awsome!!!!!!

==Re: Our own movie==

OK, so the idea of IMFDB doing its own action movie (with an actual budget, storyline, and production staff) is a total fantasy, but here's something a little more grounded in reality: What would you think of a short home-made video where we show off some blank-adapted firearms, provide narration describing how they work, maybe even do a brief firing demo where we fire a few rounds through a pistol at someone's range? IMFDB already has a YouTube account (under Bunni's name) - we would just post it there. Nothing too fancy - just a video that would explain to people that, contrary to popular belief, the guns they see in movies are real. I'm still amazed at how many people seem to think they're "fake" (just talked to another gun owner on another message board who initially didn't believe me).

Also, that reminds me...what are rental fees at the armories nowadays? Does it cost significantly more to rent adapt a blank-adapted pistol as it costs me to rent an unmodified pistol from my local range? Of course, I'm guessing blanks themselves are the bigger expense (since the armories all do their own loads). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, yeah, and by this, I mean that the blank-adapted firearms in the video would be rented/borrowed from one of the major rental armories. If that's even possible... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:00, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

::I don't see why the action movie is a fantasy. I could get someone to write us a script, and if we all pooled our resources... We have people who can be actors on this site (myself included), I'm sure. We just need money. How many members do we have?-protoAuthor

:::ProtoAuthor, I have been on some film sets (mostly when I was younger and several major shows were filmed in my home town), and I know enough about the industry to know that that's not a realistic goal.

:::MPM, wow, I had no idea blank costs had risen THAT high, even though my sources have always told me they are more expensive than live rounds. And sorry to hear about the SAG losses, though I remember hearing about it earlier (you're actually one of a couple people I know working in showbiz who have told me the same story about how it affects them).

:::That being said, the best I can say is that I'd rent one of the guns that hasn't "paid for itself" in rentals yet (i.e. one of your Springfield XDs or FNPs), so it would be a step forward to a return on the investment. But I do understand the issue with blanks, that and the fact that I appreciate how hard it is given your schedule. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

:::''rule of thumb is usually 10% of full replacement costs for one week.''

:::So, in other words, an $800 pistol would rent for $80 a week? Does it adjust as a gun loses Blue Book value? (i.e. do Gen 2 Glocks rent for lower prices than Gen 3 Glocks)? Also, I'm guessing daily rentals or student rates aren't SOP? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== SAG Strike ==
Ok, i know some things about the SAG strike but i didn't knew it was that bad! Can you tell me how the SAG strike affected movie armourers?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== new user issue ==

My guess would be an issue with his browser. To troubleshoot I'd suggest first creating a new account using the same computer, if the problem persists I would change to a different browser (ie. Firefox) and if it still persists try a different computer. I bet simply changing browsers will take care of it though. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Much as I hate to be down on a page obvious work has gone into... ==

[[Einhander]]

It's a scrolling shooter where the player controls a spaceship. I can see how two of the pictured weapons could be based on real-life weaponry, but you could say the same of Halo [sniper rifle as NTW-20, assault rifle as FN F2000] and I don't think that's around anymore. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

==Holland & Holland Page==
Thanks for the compliment. Boy I wish one of those H&H rifles pictured were mine. But I'm just a mere mortal who has only held an H&H Double (owned by a wealthy local businessman). And I count myself lucky for that experience. The photos are from the Nitro Express Forums site. http://nitroexpress.com/
But thanks again. I figured it was time that we had a page for those great (and expensive) doubles. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks, and Little help please ==

First thanks for your revamp of the Calico weapons, great photos. Second I was wondering if you could help ID this gun from the Australian show [[Sea Patrol]]:

[[Image:Sea Patrol Revolver 2.png]]

Nothing I find seems right, it looks like a Smith and Wesson but the pattern on the handle seems off. Revolvers aren't my strong suit.

Thanks, and keep up the great photographing.
[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 22:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

==Memorial Photos==
I'm flexible. If that is what folks want done or want to do I won't throw a hissy fit if they replace the photos I added. I've heard from different contributors regarding the memorial photos. Some people like what I've been doing - gives it a Hollywood feeling. But you an a couple others have suggested using screencaps with the actors in their iconic roles. That's the nice thing about imfdb. we can all contribute. For me it's just fun. Good hearing from you. Glad to know that folks are not against the memorial photo idea. Just have different opinions on how to format them. Or is it present? Well you know what I mean. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

==Test Template Page==
Hey MPM, Nice test page showing the difference between old and new. Adding a new column is easy just have to figure out what to name the column and how wide to max it out. I am working on the AK and M1911 right now to test but I can see right now to add a note section. Let me know what you think. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
: Hey MPM, Added the notes column check it out. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==The Daewoo K3==

Hey, MPM, I just made a page for the [[Daewoo K3]]. I just figured out last night (with Steve's help) that some "M249s" in movies are visually-modified K3s (like the one used by [[Kevin Costner]] in ''[[3000 Miles to Graceland]]''). Can you tell me more about the obstacles to buying M249s which led armorers to use the K3? I figured I should get input from both of you on this so that the summary is accurate as possible. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

:Steve says they were apparently cheaper at one time. One thing I've noticed is that the K3s seem to appear mostly in action movies filmed in Canada. If you happen to run into one of the K3s made to look M249-ish, please do tell. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== I hate puppets ==

It's not that I hate puppets. It's that I hate taking it seriously. I mean come on. We're talking about what kind of guns they armed little string puppets. Where did they come to the conclusion that I hate puppets? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, well I got tired of looking at the cartoons, screen caps or not. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

==Rock Island Armory Commander==
Hey MPM, You would not happen to have a photo of a Rock Island Armory Commander. Ben Stiller uses one in [[Starsky & Hutch (2004)]]. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, Good to see that you are busy working I know several that are just looking for some work. The RIA Commander in the photo has Colt Series 70 checkered grips on it. No hurry on the photo as I will put a filler in it place for now. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Template ==

Hey MPM2008, I just want to say amazing work on the new template. That is a good example of how a template should look, I can actually see that successfully showing up on more page in the future. It looks millions of times better then the crappy ones Dragon made months ago. Good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks but PhoenixEnt designed the original template. I am just playing around with it to try to see what format seems best, and boy is it hard. I sure hope we all agree on something :) MPM2008

I Concur, this will help keep the information neat and organized. This will especially be good to have on certain pages. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

The only issue I can potentially see is if no character is seen using something; for example, a remote weapon who's controller isn't identified, a weapon found on the ground but not picked up, or whatever. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

:Hey MPM, Thanks for the compliment on the template layout. You really brought it out to the for front. I just brought to IMFDB some items we used on another wiki. I do believe that all the Admins will come to the same page on how the final layout will look. It will look great when we all get on board the same train. Thanks Again. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::I think we should use more, although it'll take alot of work getting used to. I agree to anything that will help the site look neater, plus I would like to see that template on more pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

*slaps forehead* OK, I admit it, I really am going senile at 23. Either that or the fact that I had my Arabic final yesterday and have been sleep-deprived for the better part of the week. Sorry, but don't take it personally. Oh, and nice job. ;) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

I prefer Chronological order as well, since it neatly documents each year the guns appeared each year without needing a character to use it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

:I figured there was already a consensus that we do things by chronological order? I definitely agree with the idea, 100%. Also, in situations where we have multiple movies featuring the same gun in one year, then we go to alphabetical order within those years only. For example, if we have listed ten films, all released in 1996, that feature the Beretta 92F, those ten films should be alphabetical order. There might even be a way to change the columns so that we won't have to write "1996" for all ten films, though I have no idea how right now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Zombieland Mare's Leg pistol==
I understand my comment on the Mare's Leg gun disrupted the flow of the page, so I figured I'd tell you a little bit about it. I'd assume it is a C.B. Custom model. They've been selling the "Mare's Leg" in typical pistol calibers (.38spl, .45LC, .357Mag) and consider it a pistol so civilians can buy it without paying a tax for a cut down rifle. Since the gun looks so new and shiny, this could be assumed. Also, they sell the gun with a non-loop lever. LSI (Legacy Sports International) has also been reproducing Mare's Leg guns since 2008, so perhaps this film bought one brand new from the company to show it off (but since the movie was filmed at this time it would be BRAND new). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== The Hills Have Eyes ==

Sorry about that, I couldn't figure out why it was doing that, so I just deleted the redirect page, if you can make a better redirect, go ahead. I'm not too good at doing redirects myself.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 17:06, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem, I was going to try getting rid of the Category: Movie tab at first, but everytime I hit the Edit tab, it would bring me to the page it redirected to, so I just decided to get rid of it, thanks for creating a better redirect by the way. --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Alien resurrection ==

I added a note to [[Alien: Resurrection]] about a page I found on the props, you might want to take a look and see if it's legit since it implies most or all the sci-fi firearms are just props made from machined aluminium. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 01:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Hey MPM ==
Anyone ever tell you that you have a lot of pictures? haha. - [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:BTW the HKP7M13 picture, the factory nick and the blued, are they the same gun? I'm just wondering, same serial no., and if they are, how'd you accomplish that?-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Ahahah I completely agree, I posted a picture of my Gold Cup on the forum, but I put duck tape over the SN. So are they the same gun? I saw that they had nicks in the same place as well. And thanks, I just pay attention

==Desert Eagle==

Agreed, moved back. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

==Navy SEALs==
Hey MPM, would it be okay if I uploaded a few screencaps for [[Navy SEALs]]? When I say a few, I mean a FEW. I just wanted to add some guns you missed.

* Terrorists fire a DShK (or M2 mock up) at a helicopter during the film's start

* FN FAL seen in soldier's hands in news footage.

* Sheen uses a Browning Hi-Power to shoot a terrorist when he finds the conversation "boring".

* Stinger missile launcher, which is kind of pivotal to the whole story.

* One of the SEALs is seen holding a 92FS in one scene (during the night raid), it had a squared trigger guard.

I promise I won't fill up the page with huge amounts of screencaps, in fact I think each gun should only hail one or two caps each, total. I don't think I'll need to add any extra caps to the existing guns either, unless I come across something really, REALLY good. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::After screencapping it, I noticed all types of AK variants are seen, not just AK-47s and AKMS's. The Hi-Power was a CZ-75. The new footage had an FN FAL, and M16A1 with jungle taped magazines, and a DShK. The gun at the beggining is the same type of mocked up M2HB from Rambo III, except it is a dual mount. And a terrorist APC is seen fitted with dual M1919 .30 calibers. There are some other guns too but that was just some of the stuff I caught. I took a few more extra screencaps for the existing guns than I thought I would, so I'll put those in the discussion and let you okay them. Sound good? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Shit. Damn my impatience! Well I only added some extras to the existing guns on the page and filled out the AKs in better detail. I'll leave everything else to you, and hey, if you miss anything once your done I still have all my screencaps saved and ready to use. Sorry to tread on your toes. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::BTW, I fixed up the page format a bit (it wasn't quite IMFDB standard). I was wondering, what is this gun Ramos is holding?:
[[Image:NS-FNFNCPara-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ramos with (???). My best guess is an FN FNC Para or someting around that series of firearms.]]
::::I figured you'd know best. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Can you delete a duplicate picture? ==

After updating [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DefTech1315.jpg DefTech1315.jpg] I noticed the [[RoboCop 3]] page used a duplicate image of the original (found [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DefTec37mmGasGun.jpg here]). They were both the same image before and now the [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DefTech1315.jpg DefTech1315.jpg] is just a larger/cleaner version, and the one [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DefTec37mmGasGun.jpg here] isn't used. [[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 16:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:::DONE :)

==RE:Sorry guys==
Good luck with the productions. I started to film my own movie last tuesday and a little today, so I guess summer's movie making time. Hope you get back soon. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Great to hear from you again! I was wondering what happened (I only '''just''' noticed the update on your user page, haha). Hope all goes well and you (and the guns) all come out of it OK. I'm sure you'll have stories to tell, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! Also I hope you're having a good time with the productions you're working on now! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Your Photos ==

You know, I was just looking at those photos you took on your user page, and I must say that these are very well done. Bravo! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Indies ==

So do you ever find that the Indies are lees knowledgable about firearms from the A list movies or is there no difference. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:40, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::There are ignorant idiots everywhere. Doesn't matter what the budget is. MPM2008

== Smith & Wesson Model 5943 ==
I read your comment regarding the 5943. I don't know if I came off as rude, condescending, or arrogant, but I assure you I did not intend offense nor did I mean to slight you in any way. I am merely a gun enthusiast whose knowledge is evergrowing, much like the rest of the people on this site.

The Smith & Wesson number system dictates that a "5943" is a full size, double action only, alloy framed gun, and there are numerous examples of this. However, the gun pictured to represent the 5943 has the 3.5 inch barrel of many of the 69 Series guns. You know without a doubt that it's a 5943, which, since I can't confirm with you due to your real life projects, I can only assume you can confirm by the marking number stamped on the frame. After looking some more online, I've found two possible answers to this phenomena. One, someone could have merged a 6946 slide assembly with a 5943 frame, but I don't know if you got the gun secondhand or not, so this isn't likely. The other answer is the 5943 SSV (short slide variant) which is exactly like the one you have pictured. I'll attach a link to an example. It has a blued slide, but I did find an example with a stainless slide, but the picture was removed before I could save it.

Again, sorry if I offended you, I'm just trying to figure something out and learn.

[http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9959/5943vssnx0.jpg]

==Bisley Colt==
Nice pic of the Bisley Colt! I didn't know Cimmeron made a copy of that version, but I guess I haven't looked at their site in a while. Any way, excellent work. How's the work in the indie movies going? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Help with Militaria ==
I see you are a collector of Military equipment. I want to be a collector too. Could you tell me where to find a good website that sells militaria? I am looking for a soviet SSh68 helmet. The one the Soviet Army used during the war in afghanistan. I'm also looking for a Vietnam War era american M1 Helmet with the Nam Leaf pattern. Could you tell me where i can find those?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Nope. I got all my stuff years ago in person and NOT on the internet. I bought all my M1 helmets with the nam leaf pattern cover at the Great Western gun show in 1993. MPM

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re: Primeval==

''I just saw a chopped and converted HK94 (masquerading as an MP5) on the BBC show "Primevel" tonight. WTF? Why on earth would the British Armorers have such a thing?''

Hmmmm, that is odd. I imagine that there were at least some HK94s imported to the U.K. before the 1987 Hungerford Massacre (and the subsequent ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns), so it's possible that a few were acquired by the British armories and only partially converted to MP5 specs. But it's definitely the kind of thing I wouldn't expect to see anywhere except in American movies and TV shows. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Remington M1903A3 in Public Enemies==
I think this is a factual error mistake or someone confused the rifles to be M1903's.Maybe it's an earlier version of the M1903. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==The S&W in Constantine==

[[Image:C-RachelGunLoadCarA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) loads up her 6906.]]

This pistol has a single-stack frame, so it can't be a 6906. It's most likely a 3913 (the regular 3913, not the Ladysmith). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

:''WTF? you in the habit of reading Gunmaster45's talk page?''

:Yep, I'm just creepy like that. No, seriously, I was about to leave a message on his page when I decided to PM him on the forum instead.

:As for the S&W, I'm not 100% sure it's a 3913. But remember that because Rachel Weisz is a woman, she's probably got small hands, so guns which look compact in the hands of a guy are probably going to look much bigger in her hands. Her IMDB profile says she's 5'7".

:Thanks for the new pictures. It's nice to have our own P18.9, and the old-school MGC XM177 look-a-like. I've actually handled one of the newer MGC XM177s (which has a more realistic-looking forward assist button). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

::Whoa, you have been quite busy this weekend! Nice, very nice! But still curious...any chance of an MGC M16 configured like the ones from ''[[Barb Wire]]'' and ''[[Outbreak]]''? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't think the ''[[Barb Wire]]'' guns are a factory MGC config; I think they were built using real M16 parts. As you noted yourself on the page, they have real M16 mags that clearly don't fit in the wells.

:::Anyway, as far as the Photoshopped guns go, I noticed that somebody keeps re-adding many of the M16s (like that inaccurate XM177E1) to the M16 page even though I have removed them myself on various occasions. Not sure who keeps doing it, but I would not discourage you from removing them. I'm getting to the point where I'm a bit fed up with Anonymous users myself (I've undone their incorrect edits a whole bunch of times now). But I hope it doesn't make you completely hate us. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I was just coming on here to suggest 3913 as well (not the Lady Smith though). I believe this is the gun in [[Painkiller Jane (2007)]] as well. Let me know when you plan to finish [[Navy SEALs]], I'm looking forward to seeing it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::BTW, excellent gun pics. As always. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==UWE AKs==

''I think they're Bulgarian Arsenal ARs in 5.56mm not Norinco guns.''

Hmmm, you might be right (the dark wood is certainly not consistent with Chinese AKs), but I'm pretty sure they have the full-circle front sight hoods, which would mean they're Norincos. I'll have to check again to be sure. Also, the armorers who worked on ''[[Underworld: Evolution]]'' are the same guys who do ''[[Stargate: SG1]]'', and that show very often uses the Type 84 to equip the Russian SG teams (as an AK-74 substitute). So it would make lots of sense if the same guns were used here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:You might be right (and we both know I've screwed this up before), but just take a look at this one other shot:

:[[Image:UWEAK-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

:My eyes could still be playing tricks on me, but those do looked like the circular front sight. Also, I noticed that in ''Stargate: Continum'', Cameron Mitchell used a Type 84 with the same color wood:

:[[Image:SGAK7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Again, the same armorers worked on both shows. It would make plenty of sense if the same AKs were sent out on both. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Images ==

Hey MPM2008, I just want to say excellent work on the images you have uploaded this past weekend, I like the Pre war M1911A1 alot. Keep up the good work, I hope work has gotten atleast a little easier for you.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Can you believe this guy? ==

Yournamehere thinks he can come to my page and change the format I prefer because he doesn't like it. How is my format not orderly. It's pissing me off. I mean look at my [[Black Lagoon]] Page. How is it better now than before when I had sections for which guns is which. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== You should ban this guy. ==

67.183.66.44 is making nonsense edits to loads of gun articles, adding links to films he seems to just be making up as he goes along, adding images that are misformatted...He needs a good solid kick up the rear, I think, since he's just making things worse now. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:05, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Jericho==

Nah, I'm not sure who those guys are (or if they're all the same person). I haven't touched my ''[[Jericho]]'' page in months now, even though it could use some more work.

Also, sorry I didn't get back to you about user 67.183.66.44, even though I see you banned him. I have been pretty busy and I keep forgetting to do things for this site that I've been meaning to do. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:08, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

==Léon==
Don't commend me, give the honors to AdAstra2009. He's the one who did the completed page first and IDed the obscure weapons such as the assault rifles. I'm just adding better screencaps and fixing formating issues (no captions, lack of descriptions, etc.), although there are a few guns I will still upload that I don't think he found. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE: Gun ID==
It looks like a Star Model PD. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I second that; I think John is correct. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

=== Pulse Rifle inspiring the Morita ===
Yes it did, the same guy made both of them. The dude took what he learned from the pulse rifle, and applied it to the morita.-protoAuthor

==Nice new pics! + "Stealth" ==

Thanks for the new MP7 pictures! Are those yours? The Rossi Overland is also great, because now we can ditch the picture that was jacked from LMO (I think you can probably just upload over the old one, and nobody will mind).

Also, I still think that the MP7 that you documented in ''[[Stealth]]'' is actually a prototype PDW and not a production model, for the reasons I mentioned on the page (and which I guess we should move to discussion). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Actually, ignore what I said, I forgot that the existing Rossi Overland was the same one from ''[[The Untouchable]]'', and keeping it for that page only is a good idea. But I think we should use yours for all other pages that have the Rossi. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Nah, I ain't psychic, just happened to be online at the same time. It happens. LOL. As I said later, changed my mind...the LMO one can stay on the ''[[The Untouchables]]'' page only, but every other page that uses it should have the image replaced by yours. Also, I think there's already a sawed-off 870 besides that one from the Waco Police Dept. on here somewhere...we should just ditch it and use the other one.

::Nice MP7. H&K may think we suck and they hate us, but having our own MP7 pictures is really great, especially since it appears in so many movies as of late. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Assault on Precinct 13 ==
Oh yeah that movie is seventies all the way. My dad was a cop back in the seventies (1970 - 1994) and what that movie portrays was a very real concern of cops. The idea of a police precinct being besieged in an inner-city neighborhood seemed very real. Plus all the firearms are old school. Revolvers, pump action shotguns,even that unrealistic "silencer"on the C96. None of the bells and whistles that the remake had.Plus the bad guys was a street gang not some type of massive armyof "bad" cops.I like the fact that the original isn't so PC. All in all it's a better movie imho. Just has an edge that the remake lacks. Alot of the 1970 cop films had a bite to them. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:24, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== ''Flight of the Intruder'' Edits ==

Sorry about stepping on your toes in regard to ''[[Flight of the Intruder]]'', I didn't mean to mess you up while you were working on the page. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Don't use PNG files for screenshots ==

Okay. Now I have to convert all the screenshots after I take them, no a big problem. How do I remove the pics I already posted?
BTW, I didn't realize just how much work it takes to make a page till now, you guys are really amazing. --[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 23:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

==From your TimeCop page==

MPM,

[[Image:Timecop-ShotgunEmptyA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Lyle Atwood ([[Jason Schombing]]) looks down and finds his custom SBR empty. This weapon would later be used on Stargate: Atlantis. The Actor ([[Jason Schombing]]) would also have a recurring role as Dr. Robert Rothman on the show ''[[Stargate:SG1]]'']]

As you noted, this is the same gun used on ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]''. The show's armorer, Rob Fournier, specifically said in an interview that it's a [[Desert Eagle]] .44 Magnum, and he also mentioned that the gun was originally built for ''[[Timecop]]'' even though it's been re-used on the ''Stargate'' shows several times now. You can check that interview out here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIR_UCp6fPo

Just thought you might be interested. Have a good weekend. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Maruzen Pump action TEC 9 in Planet Terror ==

Thanks for spotting that. The M3 Grease gun was already written on the page before I worked on it and I followed it right in. I didn't pay close enough attention to caps I took of it either to see there is a big damn difference. I was in too much of a hurry trying to get them all loaded. Thanks again. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== ==
When I get older I would like to be a film armorer but have no idea how, could you help me? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 19:35, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

==Category:Behind the Scenes Image==

Good idea! We do have a lot of photos that need this classification (mostly on John's pages). Do we apply it to images of stuff like armorers showing off the guns, actors training with weapons, etc., as well as Trivia-related stuff? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Re: B&W Actor Pages ==

Thanks for the heads-up on that; I modified some of the pages I had made recently which mostly include B&W actors and a few actors from ''Hill Street Blues'' who have passed on. Would you be able to check one of the pages, such as [[George Raft]]'s, just to make sure I did it correctly? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, unrelated, but would you be able to very briefly check this cap and identify the revolver. I had originally thought it was a heavy-barreled S&W Model 10 but Gunman69 identified it as a Model 15. He may be correct but I'd just like a confirmation. Thanks!
[[Image:Hsb101-sw10hb1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Re: Flamethrower==

Looks a lot better! Feel free to replace the old one. Also, I've meaning to re-upload most of the images my contact at ISS sent me - '''not''' the ''[[Public Enemies]]'' guns, since those are the ones that got me into trouble, but I will put back the guns from ''[[Chuck]]'', ''[[Letters from Iwo Jima]]'', ''[[The Unit]]'', etc. When I do, would you like to do clean-up work on those?

Also, what do you think of the gun pictures on Weapons Specialists, Ltd.'s web site? I just uploaded their Seecamp LWS-32 (so that I could use it for my ''[[Strapped]]'' page):

[[Image:SeecampLWS-32.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

I think they're not quite as good as yours, but still pretty sweet. They have a lot of cool stuff on their site. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Hi Standard group pic ==

Oops, sorry! Thanks for letting me know, I just put the previous picture back up! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 20:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

==The Cell==

I doubt those SIGs are P220s. When in doubt, you should probably assume P226, because the 226 is by ''far'' the most common SIG pistol used in movies.

Also, the gun you IDed as a Glock 17 in ''[[Jeepers Creepers]]'' also appears to be a SIG P226. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:33, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== Mera Gaon Mera Desh moved to ....... ==

You have moved Mera Gaon Mera Desh to My Village, My Country aka "Mera Gaon Mera Desh" as per IMFDB's standard that if a foreign has an English international title, that title takes precedence. But as far as I know, this film does not have any english title. Even in the IMDB it is listed as simply: Mera Gaon Mera Desh. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0232081/ My village, my country is a direct translation of the hindi phrase, mera gaon mera desh, however the movie is known by its original hindi name. Therefore It would be kind enough if you inform me the reason behind this redirection that has taken place. Thankyou. [[User:Ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] 08:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Also I would like to know that how this '''foreign films''' are defined in IMFDB. As this is an international detabase, US made films are also foreign to us. Had this been Hollywood movie firearms data base, then films made outside US could have been called '''foreign'''. But this is certainly not the case. Therefore, I think it is not fair to precede an english translation before a non-english title. I would be happy to here from you regarding this matter. Thankyou. [[User:Ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] 08:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

: Ok, now I can get the point that why you have changed the title. But I have checked on the IMDB that [[Khosla ka Ghosla]] has a UK subtitle, Khosla's Nest, and [[Rang De Basanti]] has an english international title, Paint It Yellow. Are these has to be changed as well? Yes, I can remember that I was told this before, but the reason I have raised this question again is that the word '''foreign''' and '''international''' appears contradictory to me. Why cant we take it as a fully global site instead of an American site? The server may be somewhere in the America but why are you restricting the site as an American only.[[User:Ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] 02:48, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Nid de guepes ==

It might be me bringing my wikipedia notions over, but oh well.

*Didn't know we could just upload covers grabbed from other sites.
*It's not like I have 'ownership' of the page, anyone can add whatever relevant, that's the whole point of a wiki.. Right? :/ --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] 18:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

==Request==
I have a request for you. Could you take the 2nd Generation Glock 22 picture and spruce it up (cut the bars, fix the lighting, etc) like you did with the 2nd Generation Glock 19? Here's a picture of it:

[[Image:Glock 22.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]

Thanks! - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

==Re: Seven Days==

Thanks! I miss this show and wish it would come to DVD, too. I do have quite a few more pics of other guns used in ''[[Seven Days]]'', including a S&W 640 Centenniel which Parker used briefly in an episode, Norinco Type 84 AKs, an NSV heavy machine gun, a custom shorty AK variant, the shotgun used to kill Olga in 1x04 "Come Again", the Dragunovs, etc. I will also document the Non-Guns used in the Pilot, which, as you pointed out, were due to the restrictions of filming in the District. There are also a LOT of appearances of airsoft guns in this show (many of them pretty obvious, even on the low-resolution AVIs I have) for the non-firing scenes.

Also, Nick Searcy, who played Ramsey on the show, is from this state (North Carolina). I can't remember if he still has family here or what, but I know he's been back at least a few times in the past 5 years. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== Question! ==
I've noticed your name a lot on the site and I decided it was best to ask you. I've noticed several weapons on Law and Order Criminal Intent but I have no photos and only have the weapon in my mind. Also, is it fine to copy paste things for games? Like Resistance 2, which have descriptions about weapons in it. -GunEnthusiast

==Re: The M60==
Nice! Finally, you have blessed us with our own M60 picture! I personally like the bipod down a little more, but the bipod up is fine, too. It might even be more appropriate, because they're commonly wielded that way in movies. Whatever you choose, please make sure to upload over the existing one...it would be a nightmare to replace the M60 image by hand on over 100 pages! Hehe.

Also, I did a little more work on ''[[Seven Days]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

==Apology==
Look, I'm sorry that I pissed you off about uploading that Remington 870 with a Pachmayr grip pic. Fist of all, I got it off this JC Devine site where they auction guns and I thought I can just save a few pics and upload them to help the site. Second of all, it matches the one used on ''[[The Kill Point]]''. You can delete if you want to and upload your version. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

==The AK Krinkov==

Nice picture! It's really great we have our own picture of one of those [[AK-47#AKMSU|AKMSU]]/Krinkov-type guns, because that style weapon has appeared in a HUGE number of Hollywood movies and TV shows (if you check the "Links" section under the image, I just added your picture to almost 25 more pages which feature the same gun). Plus, up until now, that Zastava M92 which we've been using is just not a very good representation of the kind of AKMSU seen in the movies. Thanks for the image. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

:''I haven't checked on the various armories to see what exact version was used in what film, but I guess I will get around to it.''

:Steve mentioned to me that CW had quite a few of the Krinkov side-folders that look like yours. ISS has some, too, but I believe CW owns the majority of the ones that have been seen in Hollywood movies. Probably 95% of the AK Krinkovs that have been in American action movies are of the same type as the one you photographed - AKMs with the parts kit added and the side-folding [[AKS-74U]]-style buttstock. The movies that your picture now links to represent only a partial listing, I reckon.

:As for the unknown pistols in ''[[The Hunted]]'', here is what I can tell:

:*(1.) The suppressed pistol in the SF guy's holster looks to be a SIG P226 with a 20-round magazine. You can see the grip panels pretty clearly, and they're definitely SIG-style.
:*(2.) The pistol used by the Serb soldier looks to me like a CZ 75, though I'm again not 100% sure. But the CZ 75 is the most common Wonder Nine used by Eastern European military personnel in Hollywood, even in movies depicting military forces that never actually used the CZ 75 in real life.

:Hope that helps a bit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC

== New Template ==

I have created two new templates, [[Template:Infobox Movie]], and [[Template:Sortable Table]]. Tell me if you like it. [[User:Ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] 06:45, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

::Hi, actually I dont have all those DVDs with me right now. I am trying my best to get those DVDs, so that I can finish all my articles as soon as possible. By the way, when I was creating the movie template one thing came into my mind, that, may be points like release dates, directer, producers are of less relevant for IMFDB. These data are easily available on IMDB and Wikipedia. So I have changed the format a bit. Could you please have a look at [[Template:Infobox Movie]] once again and tell me if this will be of any help. In that page I have changed only the box which has KAMINEY in it, the other two remains the same. Also could you please suggest me some more IMFDB related points that I can incorporate in the infobox movie, television and videogames. Thanks (this is a Festival season in India, so greetings from me as well)[[User:Ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] 15:38, 23 September 2009 (UTC

==Warehouse 13==

I'm watching the Pilot episode now. The SIG pistols used by the USSS agents are a mix of P228s and P229s, not P226s. Lattimer's SIG is a 229 when he first loads it up (you can see the cocking serrations pretty clearly), but later at the museum, due to a continuity error, it becomes a 228. It becomes a 229 again in his apartment when he meets Mrs. Frederick, and then it's a 228 when he first arrives at Warehouse 13 and draws on Artie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:Nice! Those are really great. Of course, I see you already made the P225 picture the new standard version, but no reason anyone should complain; it looks ''way'' better. And the 8mm Bruni is much-appreciated; I think those have appeared in some other movies, too, besides ''[[Ultimate Force]]''. Also, the nickel Taurus PT92 w/ pearl grips used in ''[[Shooter]]'' was also used by Lex Luthor a few times in ''[[Smallville]]'' (literally, the exact same gun; both had the same armorers). You should add it to the ''Smallville'' page as well.

:I will watch some more episodes of ''[[Warehouse 13]]'' when I get the chance, but the Pilot definitely has P228s and 229s only. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:41, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

==Hi==

Sorry I've been a bit busy lately; I've been helping with some research in my department. Thanks for those new pics of M16s and Berettas. I've seen AR15 SP1s with A2 hand guards in quite a few movies, so it's great we have a picture of that. Also, you should add the picture of the Taurus PT92 with the pearl grips to ''[[Smallville]]. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

==Beretta 92FS Inox==
Can you get a picture of a Beretta 92FS Inox with wooden grips? Several movies like [[Push]] have these kinds of Berettas.(Crysis) -[[Special:Contributions/98.234.121.159|98.234.121.159]] 14:57, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

== Love the new picture ==
Seriously, I vocally cheer a little bit every time I see you've uploaded a new gun picture. Thanks for all your hard work, man.-protoAuthor 21:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== sarcastic captions ==
I agree that some of the sarcastic remarks have gotten carried away in some instances. On ''[[Stand, The|The Stand]]'' page I remarked that Ossie Davis didn't use a good grip when holding the S&W Model 29. But I just mentioned it and let it go. Some of our members have trouble letting it go. But I like to write humerous captions as well. Read my captions on Ghost and the Darkness, Crossfire Trail and The Yakuza. I don't have any trouble with humor. But there is a difference. So ,to wrap things up, I think you're onto something. I never really considered that folks in the industry would be checking us out. I don't know why I didn't think about that. I would like to think that they would use us as a teaching tool, but if they are turned off by smart ass remarks then we're "shooting" ourselves in our foot and the same mistakes will continue to be made. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Captions==
I try to use the best shot without the actors looking bad. (I usually end up with multiple caps for each scene.) I guess the best thing to do is point out good handling, and that is all. I think the worst as far as comments go is [[Payback]]. While Mel has handled weapons before he may not care for them all that much and doesn't ever practice. Just because the Porter character has a USMC tattoo doesn't mean, Mel is going to go get USMC training. (He has better shit to do.) Most of those comments are written by GM45 correct? Who is a MOD, so some users may be following by example. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
== Remington 870/Captions ==

Awesome work, it looks perfect. I put it on a few pages that I know use 870s with black furniture, so you can go in and start editing when you're ready. There could be more pages that use them, but I'm not sure. As for the caption thing, I agree, it's one thing pointing out stances and actors having their fingers on the trigger for trivial purposes, but calling them names and making fun of them shouldn't be allowed, because like you said, they never get the chance to practice proper shooting techniques, plus these are movies, and no one should take these things too seriously if they see them.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Thanks for your actions ==

No problem, your photos are part of what makes Imfdb great. If you're wondering about all the unploading, switching servers apparantly caused a bug that made us unable to revert images and pages like we usually would, so we had to click on your revision of the images, save the file, and then re-upload them over the images Hiel0c0 screwed with. But anyway, everything seems to be back to normal now or atleast close thanks to bunni, and his network administrators. I'm doing good fine by the way, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Planet Terror ==
Thanks. There is still some work to be done on the page. I always try to check recent changes, to see what new goodies you're adding to site. I saw that Python and immediately thought of Planet Terror. There is probably a few others using the blued versions that need to be changed to the stainless. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== A real life spook ==

Check it out I think we have a real life spook on the site! :o [[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User:LuckyLuciano]] [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

==New guns==

Beautiful! Did you make another trip to CW (I take it this explains the T3 SL6 and the "Fair Game" Beretta Inox?)

It's wonderful that we have a Beretta 92FS Inox now - that's been one of our site's biggest omissions for a while now. Also, do you know if that particular Beretta was used in any movies/shows besides "Fair Game"? I only ask because if it's Mike's gun, there might be a possibility it could have been used in ''[[The Last Boy Scout]]'' and ''[[Hostage]]''.

Thanks again for the new pictures. Again, they're beautiful. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, wow! No, I missed those classic screen beauties. Must have been an update you did while I was away (I come and go nowadays). Nice! Also, you mean to say you have a lot more where these came from?

:Don't worry, I haven't died just yet. But I do sometimes expect my research and papers and everything is going to kill me, I must admit. It does seem a lot quieter without John around - he used to be the one who tackled all the big new films when they got released to DVD. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

== My Man ==

Thanks so much for the Beretta 92FS Inox, it looks great! Not only have you gave us a new Beretta Inox, but also a two tone Beretta, and the screen used Sage Control SL-6 from Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, you are great! By the way, how did you get the grenade launcher? Did you make another visit to Cinema Armory?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for the response and info ==
Thank you for the apologue and responding back to me. When I first started contributing to pages I had though that I couldn’t use other member's photos. That's why I probably uploaded so many photos to pages that already had them. I've never received a message asking me to stop uploading images that were already represented, but that person could have posted it on the firearm page I posted on. If I have gotten a message to my discussion page (only messages I’ve gotten have only come from AdAstra2009, and didn’t concern photos) I would have stopped sooner. But I will check around to see what photos I’ve posted than present nothing and deleted them. As of now the only time I upload an image is when I can’t find one on this site, or trying to find something similar that isn’t posted. I wish I would have read MT2008 message but I honestly don’t know where he posted it. Not trying to blame him for anything, but know that I do know I will delete those photos. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 07:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Foxy Brown/The Getaway ==

First off, EXCELLENT work getting the shotgun used in ''The Getaway''! Having stuff like that is just part of what makes this site great! I'll try and watch for the shots you mean before the weekend, most likely tomorrow afternoon/evening or Friday afternoon. The shotgun was most prominently used in two or three big scenes but I'll watch the last half to try and catch it; that would be very impressive to match the numbers.
Also, thanks for the compliments on the ''Entourage'' page; a good number of those came from a "Behind the Scenes" feature in the fourth season DVD that showed good close ups of the weapons used to film the movie-within-a-show.
Finally, I'm glad you were able to help identify FB's pistol. Something bothered me about labeling it as a Baby Browning but since it had a similar look I figured it was a safe enough bet. Thanks for getting the correct identification though! Do you know if those were used in any other films or shows?
Good to hear from you and great work lately with the photos! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 09:58, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry if you've been waiting on that ''Getaway'' shotgun cap. I've watched those scenes a few times over and maybe it's me (so used to seeing the movie itself) but I'm not able to find the exact part you mean with a closeup of the side. Do you happen to know which part that's from? Also, GREAT job getting those exclusives from ''The Book of Eli'', ''Dirty Harry'', ''The Usual Suspects'', ''Pulp Fiction'', and the others. Your contributions are invaluable and really help imfdb to be a one-of-a-kind site! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Screen used gun uploads==
Yeah, I have noticed a lot of those lately. Most recently, I saw those guns from ''[[Dirty Harry]]'', which made me happy. But the ''[[Miami Vice]]'' S&W 645 beats that out, at least for me :). Thank you so much! If you could get those other Miami Vice guns like you said, that would be awesome. :) -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Live Free or Die Hard==
I didn't call it the actual gun used because I wasn't sure that it was. I guess it makes sense because it's the EXACT same configuration :). And no, I don't think it would be too confusing if you said it was from ''[[Iron Man (2008)]]'' and ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. It's just like that Beretta 92F that was used in ''[[Die Hard]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon]]''. So yeah, you should say that it's from both movies :). -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 15:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

==Re: MAG-7==

As best I know, ''[[Romeo + Juliet]]'' is the only major Hollywood movie that's ever featured the MAG-7. I'm sure it's appeared in movies filmed in South Africa, but I haven't seen any of those films.

You've really got a lot of cool stuff from the boys at Cinema Weaponry. Please, do tell me, how was your trip down there? This is a really awesome update you've put together for us. Also, have you seen Steve recently? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:43, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the Street Sweeper and the Gen 2 Glock 19. But do you mind deleting the Glock and re-uploading over the old picture of the Glock 19 2nd Gen that we've been using on dozens of pages? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

::Actually I wouldn't reupload it over the current image, I think it would be better to have the image named Glock 192ndGen rather then Vviewpoint or whatever, I can go on Pages and replace the images.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Forum Moderator ==

Just made you a moderator on the forum - have fun wrangling the noobs! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 04:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Thanks for your help ==

No problem, I don't like the idea of gun pictures having names like that, like you said it's just too wierd and confusing. As for the recent waves of screen used gun, excellent work! It's an honor to know that IMFDB is the only site on the web to have this pictures, and what's even more impressive is that alot of the guns you uploaded are 20-30 years old atleast and they're still in great shape, plus you got guns from movies that aren't even out yet, I wouldn't be suprised if other prop sites are jealous of IMFDB. Thanks so much for your updates, I can't wait to see what you upload next time.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Where should I put this? ==

Hmm, I'm not really too good with identifying AKs myself, but I'll try to help as much as I can. [[Congo]] could possibly use one, and it looks like [[Hard Boiled]] and [[Rambo: First Blood Part II]] use them, but I'm not sure, you would be probably have an easier time identifying them then I do, and yes I would suggest a new section for it, or atleast put under with the original AK-47s. As for the question about getting sick of your updates, definitely not, I could never get tired of seeing your pictures, they're too awesome. P.S, can you do me a favor? If you get the chance, can you get an Ithaca 37 with a high capacity magazine tube for [[The Terminator]] page? because the current image representing Reese's shotgun is terrible, and dosen't fit well at all, even if you get one that isn't screen used or has a full stock, it would be a better representation then that. Thanks again, let me know if you need anymore help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

== rules page ==

That's the power of the wiki structure! We'll both have at it and see what comes out. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 04:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== M1911 history page ==

You've done a great job so far with the [[IMFDB Info - The History of M16s in Film and Television]]. It's a great way to add more information about one of our most popular pages. I was thinking: we should do a page like that for the 1911s. I'm always seeing confusion about 1) what 1911s were used in a movie and 2) how to identify different 1911 variants. I think this would definitely help clear up confusion about 1911s, as well as attract more people to our site who are interested in this weapon (the wikipedia article on 1911s is, in my opinion, substandard). Granted I'm only suggesting that this be done for Colt models, and not the different firearm company variants (S&W, Springfield Armory, Kimber, etc.) because not only would it be very long, but the real point is to inform about the history of the original Colt variants. Anyways, this is only a suggestion. I know how busy you are, so don't think I'm trying to pressure you, but I think it'd be a great idea :). -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

== insulting actors/films ==

I think we should include your notes on not insulting actors to the rules and standards page. Personally I feel this should be in the principles section under "Be nice." and let everyone behave like adults, but if we're going to enforce it maybe it should be a new rule. Thoughts? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
:Let's do both - it deserves to be a clear cut rule as well as being expounded upon in the other sections.[[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:47, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Your photo has been edited. ==

One of your 1911A1 photos has been edited to look like the Dillinger machine pistol used in Public Enemies. Also I think that image was edited over an image I had already posted under the Dillinger machine pistol in Public Enemies. The image I had up was an actual firearm, while this edit is just cut and pasted together. The "new" image that replaced mine still even has most of my original write up I did in the thumb. I know that you do not tolerate your photos being messed with, as I can now kind of relate since my image has been messed with so I figured Id let you know. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 00:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== No problem. ==

That would be awesome if you could build the machine pistol. I understand what you mean by the younger members too. I was going to write him the message but when I saw his user page I thought that would not be the best/nicest thing to do. Anyway thanks for the response lol. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 01:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bauer .25 Automatic ==

Excellent find! I'd say you're right; there's almost a 95% chance that's the FB Bauer and I've seen ''Wonderboys'' (but don't own it) and I remember Tobey Maguire using a small nickel pistol like that, with Michael Douglas's character mentioning he thought it was a "cap gun". From the shots I grabbed from FB though, I'd say we can be almost positively sure it's the same pistol. Thanks and great work! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 10:53, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Gun image rule ==
I had a quick questoin regarding the rule that multiple images of the same gun should not be uploaded to this site. I agree that two images which are virtually identicle are unnecessary, however, would two images of the same weapon but with different finishes or barrel lengths be considered redundant as well? Granted they are identical from a technical standpoint, however having images with different finishes could help contributors post an image on an article which is a closer visual approximation to the weapon used in the film. So to reiterate, would uploading images of the same weapon with black, stainless, and two-tone finishes violate the principle posted on the rule page?
-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== 4006 Reliability Question ==
Hey, MPM, I was just wondering how reliable the Smith and Wesson 4006 was with blanks. I'm currently writing a script, and I've armed the main character with one. I'm seriously planning to make this script a movie someday (in the far future, but hey...), so I'm asking for your input. -protoAuthor 18:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

== The History of the M16 page ==
When are you going to update the history of the M16 page? Because I would like to help.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

==Re post==
I posted this question above but I fear it may have been lost among the other so I will restate it here. I apologize in advance if it sounds like I am pestering you:
:I had a quick questoin regarding the rule that multiple images of the same gun should not be uploaded to this site. I agree that two images which are virtually identicle are unnecessary, however, would two images of the same weapon but with different finishes or barrel lengths be considered redundant as well? Granted they are identical from a technical standpoint, however having images with different finishes could help contributors post an image on an article which is a closer visual approximation to the weapon used in the film. So to reiterate, would uploading images of the same weapon with black, stainless, and two-tone finishes violate the principle posted on the rule page?

-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Standards==
Pursuant to the Standards page...how many caps are considered too many? The reason I ask is that I have been capping for the "[[Sons of Anarchy]]" page and have a fair amount at the moment. I know you should not do too many caps per weapons so I was wondering what is acceptable? 2, 3, per weapon? Any advice or commentary would be appreciated. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...it narrows it down a great deal. As it stands I have something like 60 caps for the series but, again, they are for the same weapons (AKs) and the like. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 11:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

:::I know what you mean. For SOA there are some "unique" weapons but then, as I look, there's a Glock, there's another, there's another...yadda yadda. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== I'm looking for some props==
My name's Joe and I read your username and thought you might be able to help me with finding some prop revolvers or pistols. My brother is a film maker and we are looking for some 70's era revolvers ( S&W model 10 and 27) and a Colt 1911 for his film. My e-mail adress is humanzie3@aol.com, if you can help me out please shoot me an E-mail. November 2, 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Hurt Locker==

I'll confess that the captures were from a screener. You can delete them- I was a bit too eager to get some decent shots after watching the movie at the theatre. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 00:21, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Forum login ==
Is the error that login attempts are being used up, but not by you?
:I have a problem similiar to your's sometimes. For some reason I can't log onto the site at night or at some random point during the day. I hope you succeed where I have failed and figure out what is wrong-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::Someone is trying to brute force attack the login passwords and is using up all of your attempts. I hope you have strong passwords that aren't in the dictionary or forms of dictionary words. If not they should be changed to something strong and random ASAP. I will go through the server logs and try and track down the offending IP address. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:28, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I have a list of ip addresses trying to access your account - and it's a long list. Do you access from many different computers? Does your ip address change often? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 04:37, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Too many screencaps ==

Whoops! Sorry about that. I wasn't counting how many I uploaded, but I guess that was too much. How does it look now? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:39, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Reservoir Dogs ==

Thanks! I was wondering: do you think the screenshots look low quality? Because I used an ordinary DVD, but [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] thinks they look low quality. I don't really they do, but I figured I should get a second opinion. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:Also, that'd be great if you got the hero guns from the movie, especially the nickel 1st gen [[Colt Detective Special]]. I know there are a lot of pages that feature this gun but we only have pictures of the blued 1st gen. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== H&K G3 page ==
Can you protect the page from anonymous users, I reverted the edit of the vandal who for the umpteenth time decided to remove the Specifications section.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 13:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Clue revolver ==

Hey, I have some grabs from the 1985 movie ''Clue'' but I have no idea what this revolver is. Since there's no cylinder release (this picture is of the right side but the left side looks exactly the same), I'm baffled.
[[Image:Clue-rev1.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
Thanks in advance for taking a look. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 20:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks MPM. Would you recommend me (or anyone) making a page for H&R revolvers? It seems like there've been a few in some movie pages lately and I don't know enough about them to discern whether to bulk the similar ones together or make a page for each model? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 22:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::I think you're right! Sorry I only sent the side shot before, I didn't want to clutter up your talk page with pictures especially if I hadn't made the article yet :-/ Also, I just checked and saw that the Model 922 is a nine-shot .22 revolver. If I had sent a shot from the front, we would have seen the six-shot cylinder so that's my fault as well! Thanks for helping out though! A user (not sure who) has been adding H&R revolver pictures which has been great to help identify some H&Rs in other films, so hopefully he'll see this change as well. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 02:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

== I can't believe it ==
How the hell did you get an M1941 Johnson rifle? I though they were extremely hard to find.

Also, did you take that S&W Model 39 picture yourself?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Comments ==

Sorry about that, I was just very frustrated with all the recent vandalism on that page especially when it's hinted that's it's the same person doing it over and over again. I'll cut down on it next time.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:22, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

== Smith & Wesson hammers ==
I posed this question to gun master a while back and he was unable to help me. I was hopeing you could provide some insight:
:I don't know whether or not you have the answer to this question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I was doing some reading recently and learned Colt's Positive Lock safety, separating the hammer from the firing pin to prevent accidental discharge, was developed fairly early in the twentieth century and applied to Colt revolvers, however, many Smith & Wesson revolvers continued to use the simple spiked hammer design for decades. I was currious if you knew when, if ever, S&W adopted a safer mechanism for their revolvers and if you had any details about the design.
:-Anonymous

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the pin on the hammer of Porter's model 27.]]

After more thought I figured that Smtih & Wesson had to have some safety mechanism on their guns differentiating them from models like the Colt Single Actoin Army, but I haven't been able to find any details on them. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== ''Italian Job'' Trivia Section ==

The reason I moved the trivia section of ''[[Italian Job, The (2003)|The Italian Job]]'' is because it was not directly firearm-related. I was following the precedence set by the trivia section of ''[[Transformers]]''; having the non-gun trivia about the titular robots moved to the discussion section. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== High Standard shotgun ==
Why did you put an place holder picture of an High standard shotgun? I thought you already had took a picture of that shotgun for us. Here:

[[Image:HIghStandardM10Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An abomination.]]
--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

== Re: You won't believe this. ==

MPM, you da man! :) These look awesome. I would've never expected to see Tony Montana's M16 here! Or the Skull's shotgun or the M16's from [[Predator]]! Great work. Thanks so much for these lovely images! :) -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
-Edit: oh, and yes, I think the black tape looks better. That makes it the EXACT configuration, making it all the more genuine :)
:Once again, I'm blown away! IMFDB is very indebted to you; Thanks for all your work MPM! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:41, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::MPM, you get the all the best stuff. Fucking cool.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:43, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:Ah, sorry! I just got a bit over-excited about the exclusive pictures ;) You're absolutely right though, gotta give the prop houses their due! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]!
::Really great stuff MPM, Tony Montana's M16 in particular. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 06:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

:::I echo everyone above. Beautiful! Which armory owns this gun now? Also, can I show this off on The Firing Line as publicity for us? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Truly awesome MPM. I continue to be amazed by your contributions. You have elevated the imfdb to a new standard and are truly making it a definitive historical source. ps. love the tape, I was using gaffer tape to close off some bathrooms on set yesterday, good to know I can use it mount accessories to my firearms. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 01:28, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

==Year of the Dragon comment==
[[Image:YD-S&W10-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Herbert is not a very good shot. Not enough trigger time.]]
:Putting this image on the page is not professional and it has questionable value. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

::I wasn't putting down the actor, that's the character in the film that's a bad shot. In the film White (Rourke) is told by his superiors that Herbert needs more training.(hence not enough trigger time) But White says there isn't enough time and throws Herbert undercover. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the update. that is interesting information. Hmmm, the description should specifically mention the plot point being given to the audience regarding Herbert's unsuitability to go undercover and thus ends in his death. But then I still wonder how relevant it is considering we're trying to cut down the number of extraneous screencaps. Thanks for the explanation! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:33, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I would have replied to it sooner but I hadn't checked that page in a while. It was one of the first pages I did. You can delete the pic if you want, there is a few other pics I think that can be deleted also. I'll give you a list. Also thanks for putting out that memo about commenting on actors weapon skills. The site is a whole lot better.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:51, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:Also how is it going on getting more Miami Vice guns?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:55, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

== Re: You won't believe this ==

Awesome work MPM2008! You have done a very amazing job bringing us the actual screen used M16A1 and shotgun from Scarface, Scarface fans will definitely be proud and excited. As for the black tape, I think you've done a great job making the gun the way it was in the movie, I mean what better way to see the image then the way it appeared in the movie. Keep up the great work, I can't wait to see what you upload next time. Your edits make Imfdb proud.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

==Additional stock gun pics==
I was thinking since not all of the gun pics you take can be put in their main page. (that goes for other people's stock gun pics too) Couldn't they be put in their talk page and a note be made to check it for additional gun pics? These two below are not in the 870 page but are used in several movies. It would help with clutter of pics in some gun pages and maybe keep users from uploading pics you've already taken but don't know about since they aren't in the gun page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

I could be wrong, but I could've swore that you uploaded an image like this below with the same furniture but without the extended magazine tube. I looked for it on your page but couldn't find it so I may be wrong. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:34, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Remington870NewModel.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Colt Canada C7==

Hey, I have a question: Have you taken any pictures of Colt Canada C7s/Model 715s that are on your hard drive? The reason I ask is because I've recently done pages for several TV shows filmed in Vancouver (including ''[[The Sentinel (TV series)|The Sentinel]]'' and ''[[Millennium]]''), and those shows have many of these rifles. I've also noticed that many of them seem to have the "Stowaway" pistol grip that used to come standard on Olympic Arms AR-15s, so I think the "C7s" used by the Canadian armorers are actually late-80s/early-90s Olympic Arms rifles converted to select-fire. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:41, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good if you have a C7 upper. Better yet, if you slap it on an Olympic Arms full-auto lower with the Stowaway pistol grip (if you have any of those), you'll have something that looks just like the guns that the Canadian armorers use. I'm not sure why they like the OAs, either, but they sure do seem to use a lot of them.

:Thanks also for that shorty M16 picture; I had no idea that anyone besides Olympic Arms manufactured guns with that style barrel. If the K23 series didn't exist in 1996, then yeah, I guess the gun in ''[[The Sentinel (TV series)|The Sentinel]]'' can't be one of those. Only difference, the one in ''The Sentinel'' has a different hand guard than yours (it doesn't have those horizontal cuts). Otherwise, they're the same, so I'll use the picture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:21, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

== The Unit Page ==

Yes, I'm trying to clean up the page with a little more detailed descriptions and screencaps from the actual DVD's. Keep posting those screen used gun pics! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

== The Protector revolver ID ==

Okay here are my best educated guesses.

[[Image:P-Model28SnubA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
S&W Model 19 with the 2.5 inch barrel. It had the full lug protecting the ejector rod and the Baughman front ramp sight as well as adjustable rear sights and it appears to have the engraved lettering on the frame typical of S&W revolvers. None of the .38 special K frame snubbies (Model 15 and Model 10) made by S&W have a full lug protecting the ejector rod.

[[Image:P-S&WSnubAielloBoatA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
S&W Model 27 with the 3.5" barrel. Danny Aiello is a big guy so the N frame Model 27 might appear to be smaller in his hand, but the frame is bigger than the medium sized K frame Model 19 and the barrel has more length. But it ends right after the front of the ejector rod lug unlike the 4" barrel Model 28. But the big giveaway is the amount of light you can see between the front of the cylinder and the frame. The Model 27 is a .357 magnum and has a shorter cylinder than the Model 57 (41 magnum) or the Model 29 (44 magnum). On both those models the cylinder fills the frame. Also the cylinder fills the frame on the Model 19. That one feature alone makes me certain it's a Model 27. Also compare it to the snubbie held by Aiello in the screencap below.

[[Image:P-SnubAielloA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
Back to the S&W Model 19 with the 2.5 inch barrel for the above stated reasons.

Hope this helped. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

==Smith & wesson hammer repost==
'''''I asked this question a few weeks ago and I guess it got lost among all your other messages'''''

I posed this question to Gunmaster a while back and he was unable to help me. I was hopeing you could provide some insight:
:I don't know whether or not you have the answer to this question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I was doing some reading recently and learned Colt's Positive Lock safety, separating the hammer from the firing pin to prevent accidental discharge, was developed fairly early in the twentieth century and applied to Colt revolvers, however, many Smith & Wesson revolvers continued to use the simple spiked hammer design for decades. I was currious if you knew when, if ever, S&W adopted a safer mechanism for their revolvers and if you had any details about the design.
:-Anonymous

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the pin on the hammer of Porter's model 27.]]

After more thought I figured that Smtih & Wesson had to have some safety mechanism on their guns differentiating them from models like the Colt Single Actoin Army, but I haven't been able to find any details on them. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== Pirates of the Caribbean ==

I think it's pretty crazy that someone keeps putting up these pages, but doesn't work on them, so I thought I would work on the pages so you wouldn't have to keep deleting them. Unless you don't want me to. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. You can delete the Pirates posters I uploaded. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:42, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

:I actually have a picture of a Trapdoor Springfield converted to a pistol for this movie (from ISS's inventory) that I would love to upload, but can't without the page. Do you think it might justify the page's inclusion? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:14, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

==Rush Hour 3==

Nice job on ''[[Rush Hour 3]]''; it's great that you've finished up that page. I do have a few corrections, though...

[[Image:RH3-Glocka.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A triad holds a Glock 17 against the head of Soo Yung ([[Zhang Jingchu]]) - 9mm]]

I think this is actually the Non Gun Glock. The trigger guard has that weird distorted look that the Non Gun Glocks have. But the barrel is definitely too short for a G17.

[[Image:RH3-GenevieveTwoGuns02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A very bald Genvieve ([[Noemie Lenoir]]) with two handguns, one of which is a SIG-Sauer P220 - .45 acp]]
[[Image:RH3-GenevieveTwoGunsa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

This is actually a P226, not a -220. If you look closely in the second screencap, you can see the double-stack bulges on the frame. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

==Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay==

Do you think those are inexpensive airsoft P226s being used by the Air Marshalls? I just looked at my own 226, and the markings on the slide don't look like that. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:27, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

== Not a problem ==

the anonymous poster has been very busy. He/she needs to educate themselves on the correct terminology. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 10:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

==Quotes==

So far, nobody seems to have noticed that I changed [[Template:Quote]]. I wonder what that means? ;) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

==RE BTW you do great work==
Thank you, It's great to know that my work is appreciated :) --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
Can you block these two anonymous users-[[Special: Contributions/94.142.129.98|94.142.129.98]] (for adding gibberish to the Generation Kill talk page) and [[Special: Contributions/216.45.58.187|216.45.58.187]] (for vandalising the DEA page).--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 14:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

==Boondock Saints II Desert Eagle==

When I talked to [[Al Vrkljan]] about the guns used on ''The Boondock Saints II'', he told me that the Desert Eagles that his company built for the movie were chambered in .357 Magnum. Of course, you are correct that fluted barrel Mark XIX = .44 Magnum, but is it possible they may have re-chambered the Eagles just for this show?

Also, sorry I haven't been around a lot the past few days - I'm on vacation right now and haven't had as much time to patrol the site. But I did temporarily ban that one Anonymous user who kept making annoying mass edits (you know, like when he inserted "Category:Pistol" onto all the revolver pages, which I have since un-done) for a week to be on the safe side. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

:Both the .357 and .44 Mark XIXs have fluted barrels. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:28, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
==Delete list==
Unnecessary images from my pages.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:BTL-UNKRIFLE-3.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:BTL-UNKRIFLE-5.jpg

== Jacked Images ==

No problem, I got rid of those images when the owner wanted them gone. As for the Imfdb being pirates, I don't think so. If we don't have our own exclusive image of a gun, we have to due with something else, plus there are websites out there alot worse then we are.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

==Need help on Incredible Hulk==

I don't have access to the site's forum so I need your help here.

Can you go to this page and help me?

[[Talk:Incredible_Hulk%2C_The_(2008)#Need_M16_confirmation]]

--[[User:Dangerman 1973|Dangerman 1973]] 16:14, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

==Single barrel shotgun==
I noticed you recently made a page for bolt action sporting rifles similar to the pages for double barrel and pump-action shotguns. I was wondering whether or not a similar page for single barrel shotguns would be a good idea. I know they are not as common in film as the other weapons these types of pages were made for, but I think they are weapons where many people (certainly myself) have trouble distinguishing specific models. If you could give me your thoughts and feedback it would be greatly appreciated. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==A request==
I know you said no more request, but figured I would ask anyway. There is a particular Smith & Wesson Model 629 with a Magna ported 2.5 barrel that's been used in a few films. Seems like it would be the same one. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:EP-S&W629-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Extreme Prejudice]].]]
[[Image:H6292.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Hitcher, The (1986)]].]]
[[Image:BevCopS&W6295.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Beverly Hills Cop]].]]

==Time for image standardization?==

Thanks for informing me about the needs for game screenshots. I'm no fan of jpeg artifacts in images, so I just set the "quality meter" in Adobe Photoshop to maximum in the jpeg conversion screen (my screenshot program only saves in bmp format). After your reminder though, I tried setting the meter to 3/4ths and it seems to be alright.

Maybe it's time for the "upload file" page to contain the rules and standards for images themselves, then. Right now it doesn't say anything about "preferred resolutions" or "recommended filesizes." If that page contained more information on those rules for the wiki, I'm sure it would eliminate a lot of confusion and inappropriate files.

As for the GRAW2 page, maybe you can remove the overly-large screenshots for the MR-C rifle--I can post smaller ones from the PC version. Unfortunately, the PC version's all I have, so until someone uploads screenshots for the console versions too, that page will likely stay incomplete for some time. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 15:39, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

== RD protection change ==

Sorry, YNH asked me to change it back because he saw the movie again and said there was a gun that wasn't on the page. I forgot to change it back afterward [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

==Tremors: Wall of Guns==
Can you help me find more guns on Burt's wall of guns? I can't identify some because of the picture quality. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 05:56, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

== Last Samurai screencaps ==

The screencaps are from the DVD. Let me know what movies, I probably have them.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

== Beat Me to the Draw ==

I was just investigating the anonymous user who blanked the Smith & Wesson semi-auto pages, only to find you'd already nailed him. Good kill, over. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

==S&W 4500==
I never deleted anything from any article. All I did was copy and paste the information from the 4505, 4556, and 4516 articles onto the 4506 article and then changed that article's name. I deliberatly left the other articles unchanged so that if my change was rejected all that was necessary was to change the 4506 page back. Gunman69 recommended after the change that I contact an administrator to check the changes and decide what to do with the old ones so I informed MT2008 (who I believe is an Administrator) of what I did. I never logged in anonymously (well more Anonymously than usual) and wipped out the pages. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

:Sorry I didn't get back to you guys sooner yesterday, but I had a very busy day. I see that the S&W 4500 page has been created and all the variants grouped. Are we good? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:47, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Hunter ==

Hey MPM, I've been working a lot on the page for ''[[Hunter]]'' in the last month and am about two episodes shy of completing the first season. I'll be picking up the next two as soon as I can. Since there are at least 51 different firearms used during the first season (and undoubtedly more as the series continues), would you recommend splitting the page up by season like ''Miami Vice''? Also, as long as we're on the TV show subject, do we have a preferred format? I ''tend'' to try and keep the firearms in order of appearance, although this seems more practical for films rather than TV shows. Thanks ahead of time for your input! (P.S. I know some of the entries on the page are a little screencap-happy, but I wanted to try and get a wide pool to chose from, then delete whatever is deemed unnecessary or superfluous at the end of the season) - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 15:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
: Thank you very much for that response! I agree, the 4:3 really makes excess screencapping look even worse, but luckily with the first season complete and the decision to split up the seasons, I can streamline to a 4-7 limit. I'm going to delete some of the YouTube placeholders I had for guns used in later seasons (1-3 are the only ones that have been released on DVD so far) and cross my fingers that the rest will be released soon. I'll also start looking through the weaponry used and if it balances out in terms of handguns, rifles, etc., I'll split them up and leave the main weapons (Hunter's compensated P9S, for example) towards the top and sort the rest alphabetically. Again, thanks very much for your input and hopefully your latest four-day job went well! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 09:17, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Server Speed ==

How's it feeling now? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 01:26, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

==The Way of the Gun==
I added a few screencaps to the page. I know you don't like people adding an excessive amount of screencaps to a page, especially one you worked on. If you think it's one pic too many let me know. I try not be pic happy. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

==Seecamp==

Nice! Thanks for that! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:15, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

:Hmmmm, good question. I hate to ban somebody permanently who isn't making ''malicious'' edits (vandalizing, spamming, etc.) But I really don't understand why this guy seems to be so incapable of talking to us, especially after he's been asked so many times. Failing to acknowledge our requests is just obnoxious. I don't know if he's autistic or what, but either way, he certainly doesn't seem to get the message. For now, I say ban him temporarily, but let's tell him that if he continues to do what he's been doing, then the next time, the ban ''will'' be permanent. He's had enough warnings, enough times. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

==user==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/64.17.73.184 Needs to banned. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

==Thanks (Already Dead) ==
Thank you for the appreciation and comments... Sorry for the hyperlinks, it's been a long time since I've read the rules. I'll propably read them again in a few days :) And for the spoilers on [[Already Dead]]; I tried to keep them as minimal as possible, but for instance the only good view of The Detective's Colt Defender is when he is holding it on his lap when he's dead.

PS. I will also change the hyperlinks from my other pages (Smokin' Aces 2) too, to be in line with the rules... But not yet, since our winter break just started ;) But I'll get to it as soon as I can. Once again, thank you. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:45, March 5 2010 (UTC)

==The Olympic Arms AR-15==

Thanks for the OA rifle! We do need one. But you don't by chance happen to have a C7/Colt 715 upper you can slap onto that lower, do you?

Also, one other thing...I just watched "The Education of Jamie Sommers", and from what I can tell, the M16 that the guy picks up and fires is not the same one seen on the floor. I think they use an Olympic K4B (with the distinctive "Stowaway" grip) when the rifle is lying on the floor, but when he raises the rifle to fire, it's an M16A1. In other words, yet another continuity error. The Olympic ARs used by the BC armorers always seem to be the C7 look-a-likes. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

:One other thing, while I'm at it, a few more things for the ''[[Bionic Woman]]'' page...

:* The Beretta 93R used by the motorcycle assassin is actually a 92FS converted to auto and fitted with a 93R grip (the firing weapon, not just the rubber one). I'm guessing it's probably the same one that was used in ''[[Harsh Realm]]'', and I've also seen that gun in ''[[Wrongfully Accused]]'' and ''[[Seven Days]]''.

:* The M249 used by the guards in the Pilot is almost surely going to be a [[Daewoo K3]]. The BC armorers don't seem to have any real M249s, for reasons I don't understand, so they always use the K3s as stand-ins.

:Hope that helps. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:48, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Batman movies categorization ==

I'm not sure what you mean by changing the categories for Batman, because I don't think I touched that part. Could you elaborate? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:58, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

== Predators (2010) ==

Thanks for updating, i couldn't find that pic with the minigun when i wrote the page and ive just found it and was about to amend that section. In the script its definately described as a 4 barrelled GShG so i guess they are just pretending the minigun is the russian gun.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 18:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Dirty Harry ==
Any preference regarding the M29 vs. M57 debate going on between me and and another poster on that page. He thinks it should be shown as the Model 57, but I think it should be listed as the M29 with notice given to the possibility that that a M57 was the actual model and served as a body double so to speak. Do you even care? I'm out of it, but you are the webmaster. More or less. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

That would be great. Perhaps Milius will be able to confirm that he had originally intended the M29 to have a four inch barrel and if the production really did obtain two working M29's from the factory. I was involved in an investigation several years ago and actually spoke over the phone with Roy Jinks. I was tracing the background of a S&&W Model 23 that was in our evidence locker, but I think this time it would be an abuse of my authority to call him (he's now semi-retired and working out of his house)to see if that actually happened. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== About PNGs ==
Sorry about the PNGs! I know how to convert them, but it looks like you already have. Thanks. I will convert them from now on.
--[[User:Linkinpark9812|Linkinpark9812]] 04:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

==Dirty Harry Model 29 description wording==
It looks to me like someone either copied IMDb or they copied us. Plagiarism?

Imdb
'':Dirty Harry's gun is supposedly a Smith & Wesson Model 29 revolver, chambered for a .44 Magnum cartridge. In the film, the gun is shown as being capable of sending assailants flying through the air, even when shot from a distance, however, in reality the gun does not produce such dramatic results. Additionally, the .44 Magnum round is not considered to be a practical caliber for urban police force use due to recoil (which makes target re-acquisition difficult) and over-penetration issues, which greatly increases the likelihood of the bullet going through its target and injuring bystanders. The actual gun used on set by Clint Eastwood was reportedly not a Smith & Wesson Model 29. According to a story circulated by a member of the studio's prop department, Smith & Wesson did not have a Model 29 in stock at the time, and so a Smith & Wesson Model 57 chambered for a .41 Magnum cartridge was used. The Model 29 and Model 57 are identical except for minute differences in bore size, chamber dimensions, and exterior markings, none of which are visible in the film. Fans however, have claimed that in a close up at the end of the film, the gun carried by Eastwood is in fact a genuine Model 29 chambered for a .44 Magnum. The close-up clearly shows the markings "44 MAGNU," with the final "M" blocked from view.''

Ours
'':Dirty Harry's gun is a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] revolver, chambered for a .44 Magnum cartridge. In the film, the gun is shown as being capable of sending assailants flying through the air, even when shot from a distance, however, in reality the gun does not produce such dramatic results. Additionally, the .44 Magnum round is not considered to be a practical caliber for urban police force use due to recoil (which makes target re-acquisition difficult) and over-penetration issues, which greatly increases the likelihood of the bullet going through its target and injuring bystanders. The actual gun used on set by Clint Eastwood was reportedly not a Smith & Wesson Model 29. According to a story circulated by a member of the studio's prop department, Smith & Wesson did not have a Model 29 in stock at the time, and so a Smith & Wesson Model 57 chambered for a .41 Magnum cartridge was used. The Model 29 and Model 57 are identical except for minute differences in bore size, chamber dimensions, and exterior markings, none of which are visible in the film. At the end of the film there is a close up of the gun that clearly reads 44 Magnum on the barrel. So the Model 57 may have been used until Model 29's were found.''

I added "At the end of the film there is a close up of the gun that clearly reads 44 Magnum on the barrel. So the Model 57 may have been used until Model 29's were found."

This pic clearly shows 44 magnum on the barrel. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:DH1S&W25-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Proposed wording==

I don't think all that sending guys flying and over penetration stuff is necessary.

Inspector "Dirty" Harry Callahan's sidearm throughout the film is a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] with a 6.5" barrel. John Milius who did uncredited rewrites for Dirty Harry notes on the [[Magnum Force]] commentary track. That he had written Callahan to have a Model 29 with a 4" barrel, like he had himself. But only the 6.5" barrel models could be found. There are several sources claiming that when filming began no Model 29's could be found, so the Model 57 chambered in .41 Magnum was used instead. At the end of the film there is a close up of the gun that clearly reads 44 Magnum on the barrel. So the Model 57 may have been used as a stand in until Model 29's were found.

Let me know what you think. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

:I'll add some info about over penetration and it's mainly a hunting caliber, etc. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== M2 Carbine ==

I read your post in the Forum about M2 Carbines. I can’t log into the forum for whatever reason so I am responding here. I made [[The Eagle Has Landed]] page recently and in the movie they us either M1 or M2 carbine. Now in the film the actors are seen firing them on semi auto and full auto. There is never a real good close-up. Could you take a look at the page and see you can tell if they are M1, M2s or both? I have read that it was pretty easy to convert M1s to fully automatic which would probably explain if they are not M2s, because in the film they clearly are firing on full auto. Any help would be appreciated.--[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 03:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

RE: Thanks for the confirmation. Its funny how British armories would have more M2 Carbines than the US armories. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 17:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

MPM,

What about [[Apocalypse Now]]? GM45, I think was the one that changed them to M2. It was filmed in the Philippines so I have no clue about their weapons access. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:ApnowM1carb-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:ApnowM1carb-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Waterworld ==

Thanks about the page. There's still a few more shots for me to upload. But if you know which ones were left off, let me know.
--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

==Howa Type 89 help==

Mate, I need to edit something as I updated an article regarding a name change from Library War to Toshokan Senso. Thanks. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 08:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

: Got your "request". Took care of it. I'll wait for the article unlock. Thanks. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 08:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

==Mistake==

Apologies over the Library War article. I overlooked it. Will fix all reverts to it once article is unlocked. I'm also waiting for the availability of the Howa Type 89 article so that I can work on it also. Thanks. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 17:46, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Happy Now==

Excellent, thank you, sir! Yes, I am quite happy.

Well, OK, not quite (and I apologize in advance if I sound demanding). There is one thing I've mentioned: All of the "C7s"/"Model 715s" we have documented on IFMDB are actually Olympic Arms K4Bs. Those are what the British Columbia armorers use, because as we've noticed, they seem to love Oly. The M16 that appears on your page for ''[[Bionic Woman]]'' is also a K4B (the M16A1 only appears due to a continuity error when the guy fires it). So what I kinda hoped was that you take the upper receiver from this...

[[Image:Colt715 C7Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

...and fit it onto the lower receiver from this:

[[Image:OlympicArmsAR15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

So that you would have (effectively) a pre-1994 OlyArms K4B rifle. Of course, I do realize that I can't demand anything, and how hard it is to take the pics. But ''if'' you were to do that, you would have an accurate representation of the "Model 715" rifles that appear in Vancouver productions (which account for almost all of the "C7"/"Model 715" appearances that we have ever documented on IMFDB).

BTW, thanks also for the M1 Paratrooper model. Something else we've needed for a while. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE: There's no pleasing you ==

I know, I know...it must be my "aspergian" tendency or whatever to be so obsessive. ;) Seriously, it's not a ''huge'' deal if we just use the Model 715 you photographed, since, pistol grip aside, it's the same gun as the Oly K4B.

''So are all the Canadian shows have the Oly grip on them? Are you sure?''

Obviously, I can't be 100% sure. But I can tell you that the Model 715s that appear in ''[[Millennium]]'', ''[[Viper]]'', ''[[Harsh Realm]]'', ''[[M.A.N.T.I.S.]]'', and now ''[[Bionic Woman]]'' all definitely have the Oly "Stowaway" pistol grip, so they must be full-auto conversions of Oly K4Bs. All of those shows were filmed in British Columbia, so my '''gut feeling''' is that if you see a show that was filmed in British Columbia and it has C7-type AR-15s, the rifles in question are probably from the same batch of K4Bs owned by whatever armory exists in Vancouver. It seems like a safe bet, right? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Stargate/Seven Days==

There are a lot of TV shows filmed in British Columbia (especially Vancouver), but I'm pretty sure there's only one major armory in the province that supplies to all of them. There aren't that many shows where the pistol grips on the Model 715s are visible, but it still strikes me as highly likely that they're all K4Bs if they all come from the same armory.

*(1.) I wasn't able to see the pistol grips on the episode of ''[[Stargate: SG1]]'' that had the Model 715s (the one that Excalibur screencapped), but again, if it's the same armory that supplied ''[[Viper]]'' and ''[[Millennium]]'', then the guns are presumably the same ones: K4Bs.

*(2.) I don't remember if I've ever seen any Model 715s on ''[[Seven Days]]'', though I can check again. The firing M16s I can recall seeing on that show were all M16A1s with A2 handguards (the non-firing scenes all used Airsoft M16A2s).

As for the Photoshopped pictures, yes, let's keep deleting them. I'm trying to recall if I've seen anymore. The only one we still have that I recall is the XM16E1 picture that Steve Karnes made (it's still on the M16 page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE: C7 stuff==

I'll replace the C7/Model 715 picture on all the other pages later tonight.

As for the receiver, what you've told me is interesting because it seems to explain why we probably see the Oly K4Bs in all of these Vancouver productions. You're saying that Colt wouldn't even sell its lowers to armorers? Presumably, this would apply to the Canadians, too. Maybe the armory in Vancouver wanted to buy C7-style rifles in case they ever had to work on a movie depicting the Canadian forces (since, in the early-90s, the C7 is what the CF still used). But since Al has told me that Diemaco wouldn't sell them any of its rifles, ''and'' since Colt wouldn't have either, OlyArms would have made the most sense for them, because the pre-94 K4B looks like the C7 and because Oly's plant is just across the border (a few hours away).

I'm speculating, of course, but it would explain a lot, no? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Colt cowards==

Yeah, I remember what cowards Colt were, long before the AWB was ever passed. I'm old enough to remember those badly neutered "Match Target" rifles being the only Colt rifles available at FFLs. I just didn't think they were such pussies that they treated ''armorers'' the same way. If they did, then I think it would go a long way towards explaining the use of Oly K4B rifles by the Vancouver armorers - they couldn't have bought C7s from Diemaco, but they also wouldn't have been able to get Model 715s or AR-15 A2s from Colt (without going through red tape, presumably), so going to OlyArms was probably the easiest way for them to get a C7-style gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:38, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE: 715 photo ==

Nah, I don't think it matters too much, since it's only the right side of the gun that's visible (not the left). It still looks extremely close to a 715, which is what matters most for our purposes.

I have also been planning to buy a 20" upper and A2 buttstock for my DPMS Panther carbine that I bought this past January. I already have a Stowaway pistol grip on the gun (which I bought direct from Oly). I was planning to buy an A2-style barreled upper, but do you think I should get a Model 715-style upper instead? I don't care too much about having the A1-style rear sight, after all (I can't imagine I'll ever be shooting at distances where I'd need to just for elevation, and I'm not that good, anyway). '''If''' I get a 715 barreled upper and slap it on my DPMS lower with the Oly grip, I will have a rifle that looks (from the right side) identical to an Oly K4B, so I can photograph it and you can edit it for IMFDB use. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:12, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Cool. Yeah, I guess it does look a bit closer to the real thing, but you gotta admit: Few people will notice. Just look at all the mistakes on World Guns or Security Arms (or any other site with gun photos).

Also, I did the ''[[Harsh Realm]]'' page ages ago. Contrary to what I said on the page, the Model 715s which appear on that show are definitely OlyArms K4Bs. In the opening scene of the Pilot episode, [[Max Martini]] has his rifle slung over his back in one scene, and it's possible to see that it has a Stowaway grip. Plus, ''[[Harsh Realm]]'' was done in Vancouver, and like I've said, the armorers there definitely use K4Bs to simulate C7s/Model 715s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:37, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==
Really sorry for that, will make sure it does not happen again.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 10:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

==removed comment==
"The SP89 was obviously a lazy choice by the film's armorer, because the book clearly specifies a full-auto MP5K."

That was not written by me. About all I did on that page was the images. I'm not one to write comments like that. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

:Well, I am guilty of not deleting it when I worked on the page. It's been awhile since I work on that page, I just happened to check it out when comparing the holsters worn by Tommy Lee Jones in "No Country" and "In the Electric Mist". --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:40, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

==Archer==
I recently took alot of screencaps from the show ''Archer'' and when I went to create the page noticed that a page for that show had already been created and deleted with the message that western animation was not allowed on IMFDB. Below are a few of the screencaps I took from the show:
[[Image:Archerkalash.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Note the area above the magazine indicating that this was specifically intended to be an AK-47]]
[[Image:Cubanuzi.JPG|thumb|none|600px|This weapon is clearly a full sized Uzi]]

I refrained from taking images of any weapons that appeared in the show that were amorphous drawings that beared no resemblance to real weapons, however to ban western animation that clearly represents actual weapons seems to reflect more on personal prejudice rather than quality standards as there are Video Game and a few Anime articles on this site that feature guns with far less clear basis on real weapons than many of those featured on this show. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==RE: P228==

Personally, I'm fine with your P228 picture for now. We can certainly replace it with a jacked image from Google if you really don't like it. But if so, the proper way to do so is to upload over the old one, whereas Mr. Joker is trying to add the image to just one page. And he's ignoring my attempts to talk about it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

==Reply: Archer==
I only brought the matter to you because it appeared that you were the one who had previously deleted the ''Archer'' article. I too have never been a fan of having video games and Anime on this site (truth be told I'm not that fond of either media in general). The only articles I have created so far have all been live action films and television shows, however, watching the show ''Archer'' I noticed that the guns were rendered far better than in most western animation and thought it might be interesting to make a page for the series. I apologize if it seemed I was singling you out for complaints and would like to know if there is another admin I should clear the idea with first before I go through the trouble of building the page. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Another request==
In the Frankengun thread on the forums, you said you'll take request but we can't hound you about when we're getting them. So another request.

We need a Colt Python snub nose with nickel finish. We have two images of blued finish models that are jacked from the web. But nickel is more priority since we don't have one. Thanks. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:40, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Get94-python3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Getaway, The (1994)]].]]
[[Image:NBT-Revolver-Thug.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|[[Nothing But Trouble]].]]

Here is a photo I found on the Internet. Only one I was able to locate, but if nothing else it can fill in until something better comes along. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:22, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Nickelpython.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Nickel plated [[Colt Python]] - .357 magnum]]

== Three Kings ==
I used my copy of the DVD. IDK if it means anything, but i used Windows Snipping tool to take the shots. All of my movies that I've upload have been on legally purchased DVDs. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

==Re: Atlantis: The Lost Empire==
I replaced the images with widescreen images and I even increased the picture size to 600px. Hope this helps. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 04:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Hey MPM2008, I would like to say welcome back from the Pacific, I hope you really enjoyed your time there. I also have a question, is this M60 you uploaded back in September from your armory?

[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun with bipod folded - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

If so, why didn't you put your copyright on it? It's no big deal, I'm just asking since it's a great picture, and I want to know if it's yours. Thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:45, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Re:M60 ==

Yeah, sorry I haven't been around lately, been caught up in school work, but I'm back to help now. I think I might have stopped those those spammers using the the Index.php to hi for good. I deleted the Index.php and protected it, so far it seems to work. Also, there is this new user named [[User:SuperModerator|SuperModerator]] claiming to be a mod. Should be say something to him?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:Damn, somebody was impersonating a mod? My bad for not seeing it. Also, how was the show? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:Okay then, thanks for getting rid of him. He was likely one of those people pretending be a moderator in order to insult other users and keep them from talking back to him. Thanks again for showing what a real mod can do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:32, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I've slipped and acted like a jerk myself alot while banning people, lol. But yes, We can't afford having fake mods making us look bad, I think spammers and Vandals are already enough to deal with.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:22, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:I'm trying to keep up with everything. Even though I basically work in front of a computer for 10 hrs a day (which means I tend to come on here when I'm feeling distracted), I still miss out sometimes on annoying anonymous users. My tendency is to notice if they edit a page that I worked on, but not always other stuff.

:Also, thanks for the new M733 photo. Also, that's cool that you get to go to Rome. What do you mean by advisory capacity? Just curious. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==Question about Colt Model 733 Carbine==

I noticed that you just edited the [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 727/Model 733|Colt Model 733]] section of the [[M16 rifle series]] page to remove the comment about genuine Colt Model 733's having A2-style upper recievers. I take it then that this statement was false and real Model 733's actually have an A1-style upper? Just want to verify this for future reference. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==Massive Amount of Guns==

Am watching a National Geographic special on Guns in America and was considering creating a page for it. Thing is the number if weapons visible in the thing is so overwhelming I have no idea how long the page would be. Any suggestions? Age: 41 Country: Canada --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 13:40, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks for the tip. In actuality the thing seemed to strive for some semblance of balance but, as with most documentaries of this sort, did seem a little anti-gun. What I found funny about it was some of the interview subjects which included two purported trauma specialists (MDs) who were capping rounds at a range and both seemed almost giddy in the process and a self avowed pacifist who owns, among other things, a custom MAC-11, an M-16 model of some sort and several others (all Class 3) which he keeps as "investments for his grandchildren". --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 15:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

==Situation Critical==
Thanks for the information you gave. BTW can you help me recognize the exact variant of the [[Situation Critical#Heckler & Koch G3A4|G3A4]], it may be a G3KA4 or a HK91. My age is 15 and I do not live in North America (cannot specify my exact region).--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 06:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks and that is the North Hollywood Shootout episode. Are there any other such airsoft weapons in the page?--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 06:07, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

==Disambiguation page==
I have created some disambiguation pages,eg, [[M3]] and [[Delta Force]] to improve page navigation in IMFDB. Considering the latter I used to hate when I typed to search the video game Delta Force when the site redirected me to the movie page Delta Force with the same name. So I am currently in the process of making disambiguation pages for pages with similar titles to make navigating pages easy. Ben41 asked me recieve the sysop's consent before undertaking this project.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 14:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Re: the member on probation ==

Thanks, and yeah, I'm going to keep an eye on him. It's one thing getting to a heated argument with other users, but openly insulting other users over spelling, and a lack of knowledge is just plain trolling. Oliviera may have went too far with the swearing sometimes, but atleast he contributes to the site, but if this user is only here for discussion, he might as well be nice about it. I agree with your warning too, it should make him think twice before snapping at other users. Thanks again.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== RE: StrikerDelta ==

Welcome back, hope you're enjoying your trip so far. As for StrikerDelta, he came back under the IP address 173.62.63.63 a few days ago, see his contributions
[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/173.62.63.63] here, and deleted the content on a whole bunch of pages, and I banned him for that too, so that should get rid of him for good. As for the address you mentioned, I'm not certain that's him, but I'll definitely keep a watch on him, if he goes too far with deleting stuff, I'll let him know. Any way, other then that, Good luck with your work, let me know if you need anything.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:56, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hey, MPM ==
ProtoAuthor here, I've forgotten my login, and the email won't come to me. But I see we now have a Silent Hill 3 page. I've been contributing as of last night, but I want to upload official images from the press releases. I'd scan my guide, but I don't have it with me, and it won't look as good. So, I hope my email comes soon.

==Blank adaptions==
I posted this question on the Star Model B page but figured it would be better to ask you directly as you're the leading authority on this site. Around what time did armorers resolve the issue of converting larger calibre guns to cycle blanks so that it was no longer necessary to do things like use a Star Model B as a 1911 or make fake 1911s with revolvers inside as was done in [[FBI Story, The|The FBI Story]]? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 00:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== User talk:99.12.124.133 ==

I hate to report this, but this user keeps creating pages with only a minimal amount of information and I'm not sure what to do. I hate to have to go and fix every page this user makes. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

==RE: We Were Soldiers==

Holy crap, you got screen-used gun pics from ''[[We Were Soldiers]]''? Beautiful! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:42, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== We Were Soldiers and screencapping ==

Thanks, I'll make sure in the future to have some screencaps ready before I start the pages. As for the We Were Soldiers page, I saw that you're deleting some screencaps and have replaced some. I had some HD caps ready for the M60 section and the M1 section, but if you want to do the rest, that's fine with me. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== PNG's to be deleted ==

What's the best way to let you know that you can delete some of the PNG's I've replaced with JPG's? What I've tried to do is use the same filename for the JPG as was used for the PNG. If you look at [[The Incredible Hulk]] page, I've replaced the PNG's with JPG versions, so you can delete the PNG files. I've done the same thing for the [[Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine]]. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:01, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== RE: We Were Soldiers AK ==

Hey, MPM, I have a question...did anyone at CW tell you if the ''[[We Were Soldiers]]'' AKs have been used on any other shows? Also, I'm wondering if we should use that AK to replace many of the jacked Internet AK images that we've already got.

BTW, I finally learned why Canadian movies and TV shows have so many Olympic Arms AR rifles. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Yeah, I hate those jacked images, too. I especially hate that people keep using the picture of a Type I AK-47, which is something that has almost surely never appeared in a single movie (not in the West, anyway). Even the Type IIs are pretty rare (although at least one appeared in ''[[Blood Diamond]]''). But I figure that since the ''[[We Were Soldiers]]'' AK is about the closest we have (for now) to a Russian AK that's all our own, we could use it as a placeholder until we find a "general" image. Kind of like the way that we use the nickel Baby Eagle from ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' as our standard version.

As for OlyArms and the Canucks, I got the following info from an anonymous source:

* The big armory in British Columbia is run by a guy named Tom Felcan. His company has changed names a lot (Felcan International, Felcan Enterprises, or just Tom Felcan), but it's the same guy in charge. '''Any''' movie or TV show filmed in British Columbia gets its weapons from Tom Felcan - ''The X-Files'', all of the ''Stargate'' shows, ''Seven Days'', ''Battlestar Galactica'', etc.

* In the early-90s, Felcan made a bulk purchase from OlyArms. The records are all gone (due to the fire at the OA plant from 10 years ago), but my source remembers Felcan approaching them to purchase a ''very'' large quantity of K4B rifles and K3B carbines, both complete guns and upper receiver kits, around '91-'92. These were all semi-auto civvie rifles, but a few years later, Oly sold Felcan a smaller number of LEO flattop K3B and K23B "stubby" carbines (again, as either complete rifles or upper receivers-only).

In short, that's why you see so many Oly guns in productions from that neck of the woods. Speaking of which, I'm doing some more work on the page you started for ''[[Jeremiah]]'', and that show has a ton of AR rifles made by OA. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== The Sopranos PJK-9HP ==
Thanks for identifying the PJK-9HP used by [[Tony Sirico]] on an episode of ''[[The Sopranos]]''. I knew it was a FEG (thanks to the help of another contributor), but was unable to find exactly which model. With the fantastic new photo you uploaded, that page (one of my favorite of my own articles) is now even better. Again, just a small thing but I wanted to thank you for that contribution! Hope all's been well. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

==Delete list==
Got a better view of the rifle used in this episode. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Roy_rifle.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Roy_rifle2.jpg

== Hybrid Pictures ==
Hey MPM2008, I remember you saying something about you not wanting any "Frankengun" pictures made from your images. Well, I found this on the Thompson Submachinegun page: [[Image:MiModtommy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine, early 'simplified' rear sight, and side-folding stock - .45 ACP]]

It's been on the site for quite awhile, what do you want done with it?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Hybrid ==
I took the Hybrid picture off the Thompson page, but left it on the movie page for now. As for the sniper rifle, beautiful image! Feel free to overwrite any of the gun pictures I uploaded whenever you please. Keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:47, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Excellent work. Thanks for the screen used guns from [[We Were Soldiers]] too. Long Mountain Outfitters must be getting jealous.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

==Virus==
Nice job on ''[[Virus]]''. Here's something you might want to point out on your page:
[[Image:Virus-MPIAK74NK RunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The mock MPI-74NK from ''[[Virus]]'']]
Now compare to these images from ''[[Seven Days]]'' (1.11 - "HAARP Attack"):

[[Image:Vlcsnap-00077.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00078.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00081.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Coincidence? I think not. ;) I remember this weapon also appeared in an episode of ''[[JAG]]''; I believe it was originally Mike Gibbons' gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

==Interesting email I recieved==
I recieved an interesting email today in regards to deleting a duplicate image of an [[RKG-3 anti-tank grenade]], filename 'RKG-3 GRENADE REPLICA.jpg' and I thought I should share it to see what you and the other senior admins think of it. Below is the bulk of the message in its entirety:

"Hello,

Thank you for the image update on IMFDB, we didn’t load those images originally due to copyright issues and chose to use an image from our company website instead. Any questions you have regarding ordnance or weapons feel free to send an email. Thank you and any questions, please do not hesitate to let me know.

Sincerely,

M. Patrick Jordan
Sales and Logistics

INERT PRODUCTS, LLC.
INERT EXPLOSIVE TRAINING PRODUCTS
Email - Sales@Inertproducts.com
Phone: 1-570-341-3751
Fax: 570-300 -1693
http://www.inertproducts.com"

If I'm interpreting this correctly, it sounds like someone uploaded a copyrighted image without permission and the owners of the image emailed me to thank me for removing it. What do you think? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

==Re: Inert ordnance==
I was contacted by him on AIM not long ago; he's the person who uploaded the picture I removed. Apparently he uploaded it not realizing we already had a picture of that weapon. He's a pretty cool guy; served as an EOD in the Army prior to retiring. He's here under [[User:MPJOrdTech]]. Good to have yet another expert to add to our stable of professionals. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

== Enfield Mk II revolver ==
I sure don't have any (non) jacked images. Wish I did. However Nyles might be a good resource. Not only is he an old gun collector with connections, but he's Canadian and the Mk II was issued to the Mounties so there might be several up north that can be photographed. Who was the armoer for [[Silverado]] ? That movie was filmed in 84 in New Mexico and John Cleese used one. Could that be a possible connection? Or did you already think of that? Anyway that's all I have for ideas. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 13:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

==Hudson AK-47 replica==
Thanks for the info, but are you sure those are the .22 AK clones? I saw one of those up-close once, and the one I saw had a less-curved magazine (almost shaped like a Norinco Type 84 mag). I can't remember what brand it was, but I think the receiver said that it was imported by Mitchell Arms. Also, haven't the Hudson AK-47s' manufacturing specs been changed a whole bunch of times? The ones that they made in the 1980s look quite different from the ones they make today (I've seen pictures of those, too). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Film Template page ==

I think with the poster line at the top, it makes the table of contents go all the way below the poster. With the way it's put on [[The American]] (which is one of the pages I started), I prefer having the top of the poster aligned with the table of contents. But that's just my preference. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pictures Question ==
I was wondering, are you still closed to gun picture requests? I was asking because I was wondering if it would be possible to get a picture of an M16A4 with an M203 grenade launcher, as there are several articles (namely ''[[Legion]]'' and ''[[Project Reality]]'', to name a couple) that could benefit from such an image. I hope to hear from you soon on this, and wish you well. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Zastava pictures ==
Can you block this guy and delete the unnecessary Zastava pictures that he uploaded.
[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Boksi]
--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 08:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Limited Time offer==

Hey, MPM! First off, I'm on a pretty busy trip to the capital city right now (my first as a lobbyist), but thanks for making this offer. Right now, I'm pretty tired, so I can't really think of what I'd love to see on the site. But off the top of my head - can you see if anyone has a [[Daewoo K3]], especially a Paratrooper model? I ''think'' Mike Gibbons used to have a few of them, but not sure. Also, since ''[[Predators]]'' is out in theaters now (saw it recently, BTW), do you know who has the screen-used guns from that movie? I'm sure I'll think of ''lots'' more later, but those will do for now, LOL. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

:Oh, and one other thing: Do you know anybody who has a Knight's Armament Revolver Rifle? I've been searching in vain to find a good picture of one of those. They're pretty rare. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:40, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Hmmm, I'm stumped. I can tell you that in some of the screencaps, it's a SIG Non-Gun. But a few of the images show a gun that looks like a Taurus PT945, yet the cocking serrations are too tall, so I don't think that's what it is. I'm really not sure, gonna have to look some more. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

==RE: M3 carbine Pic==
I thought before that Kin93 was replacing your pic without permission since that all of your firearm images are taken from a real armory until you told me that yours was a fixed image of someone's image :) - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

== Invasion USA ==

I don't know if you're still working on this one, I added a few screenshots to [[Invasion U.S.A. (1985)]]. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== In reply to "You're gone I hear" ==

Hi, hope you are doing well. Probably you have gone through [[User:SB2296|SB2296]]'s talk page.

Yes you are right, this American site does not has to somehow change to suit my view of the world. Well you can have your American site. Neither I wanted this site to comply with my worldview, nor to start an argument with you. I just had a doubt. As far as I can recall, I have never claimed that IMFDB's '''I''' stands for '''INTERNATIONAL'''. May be you are right that the DEMAND made it INTERNATIONAL. But again, people from other part of the world could easily misinterpret this as nothing was mentioned regarding its STRICTLY American nature. It is quite difficult for a non-American to understand that '''Internet''' Movie Firearms '''Data Base''' '''is restricted to America'''.

You are talking about '''WORLDVIEW'''.
What world view can describe the '''obscureness''' of the film [[New York]]? see: '''22:39, 1 November 2009 AdAstra2009's comment''' here: [[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Wallpaper&action=history]]. Irrespective of the fact that the page has clear screen caps and well researched, it is obscure. I can understand that wallpaper was removed as it was not in a typical desktop res but whats wrong with the film? 'high and mighty Americans' (your words, not mine) perhaps can answer this.

And last but not the least, You get revenue because people voluntarily contribute. Even my SUCKED UP pages give you revenue, no matter how small, but they still do so. If you think those pages are realy sucked up, please delete them (including all the foreign pages which does not meet quality standards). But please dont think in your mind that why foreign pages are left halfway finished.

Thanks. [[User:Ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] 17:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

==Talk:Index.php==
I'm thinking we should recreate that page and protect it, so only admins can touch it. I had delete it twice this morning in a short period of time.

I watched the preview for The Walking Dead a few days ago. Looks pretty good, reminds me of cross between 28 Days Later (waking up in a hospital) and The Crazies (sheriff). --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

==re:Russian Spammer==
Yeah I kind of figured it was spammer. If they're in a foreign language they usually are. Another thing I noticed, once a spammer hits a talk page, they'll keep on that same page until the protection level is changed. This one talk page got spammed three times before I wised up. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Front paging ==

I was wondering who of the Admins is responsible for the front page featuring of articles. People put so much work into the [[Stargate SG-1|SG-1]] Article over the past few months, I personally thing that it is quite presentable by now. If the one responsible needs any help with picking caps for the FP, feel free to ask me :P --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== What are your views on getting this page deleted ==
[["Seburo Firearms"]] I mean really, they are completely fake. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 01:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie Wiki ==

Hey MPM2008, I'm not sure if you knew this but I have spotted a bunch of your images being used on the Zombie Wiki here: [http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons]. I not sure if you gave them permission to use the images, but the way the images are viewed won't allow me to see who uploaded them. Just wanted to make sure you knew about it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:I checked it out and they give just give credit for the pictures '''to IMFDB just in general'''. I'm not sure if You're okay with just that, but I just thought I would check it out. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 19:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::To find the person who uploaded it, put ''Image:'' after the name of the image and then you'll find out. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:26, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie ==
Pkay so you think the Zombie sub-cateogry should be movie and television only? Am I understanding you correctly? I have no problem with that and I can change it. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I understand and agree with you. I'm changing it. By the way have you see the commericals for the new AMC series starting on Halloween ''[[Walking Dead, The|The Walking Dead]]''? Produced by [[Frank Darabont]] and Gale Ann Hurd? Something tells me you have. I'll be watching it. At least for the first few episodes. Me and zombie movies go back 30 + years.My guilty pleasure. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:24, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

==Picture Notes==
I was wondering if I could get your opinion on something I have been doing about notes in the frames of gun pictures. Because a lot of the weapon pictures we have uploaded to the sight have information already in the bottom of the frame, when I have needed to make a comment about the specific weapon featured in the show in comparison to the pictured weapon, I have made my comments bold and italicized to differentiate them from the information normally in the frame. Below is an example I did on the ''[[Bones]]'' article:

:''In the episode "Mummy in the Maze," the murderer dressed as a clown uses a sawn-off double barrel shotgun in his shootout with Booth.''
[[Image:SBS-Shotgun Scarface.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|'''''The weapon in the episode was sawn down to the semi-pistol grip portion of the stock with the barrels left relatively long, similar to this weapon''''' - 12 gauge.]]

The bold text is used to compare the weapon in the show to the one in the picture, something I also did on the ''[[Love Kills]]'' page. I was curious if you thought this might be something I should try to popularize or if maybe I should refrain from putting article-specific notes in the frames of gun images at all. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== Beretta AR ==

Can I know why the Beretta AR 70/90 has been removed? What I wrong? --[[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] 09:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:Ok, I updated the right section. However now would be more correct to call the page "Beretta AR-70 Series" rather than "Beretta AR-70/223.--[[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] 09:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

::What fuck have I done? I tell you what I did. Yesterday I created the new section "Beretta AR 70/90", which disappeared after a few hours I do not know why. I asked why is disappered and you rightly told me that it was not necessary to open two pages of the same weapon. So this morning I updated the existing "Beretta AR-70/223" section. Now you tell me very rudely that I've done a mess, can I know where I wrong?--[[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] 21:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

It Appears that Charly Driver deleted the "gun" category tag, by mistake or by ignorance of it's purpose I assume. I've fixed it. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== La Femme Nikita ==

I was going to change it, but it looks like you already did. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Re:The perpetrator ==

I left a message on the page's discussion, but no one seems to have responded. As for MattyDienhoff, I say warn about your copyright policies. I wouldn't be too hard on him since he appears to be a young user and more then likely didn't know about your copyright.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

== User 173.62.63.157 ==
Thanks to you, man. Long as he's gone either way. I just don't tend to leave messages about problem members on every admin's page (hell, I don't even know 'em all), but well, whatever I guess. Thanks again Mastah. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
== RE Section Headers ==
Sorry about that, I'll keep it in mind in the future. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 06:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
==Total Recall==
Better check out the addition from the supposed inventor. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Also I sent a message to Bunni and I've locked the page so only admin can make changes. Just being careful right now. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:18, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
: I know people that have dealt with John Goncz in the industry. He uses a lot of cursing and threats but generally he is regard as being highly eccentric. His weapon as long since past it's prime but he believes it made a fortune on the film industry. You should talk to Syd some more about him and move from there. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 22:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. I started to think that myself, but I knew you would be more familiar with this situation. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie Wiki ==

Hey MPM2008, I have talked to the head of the Zombie Wiki, Philodox a few days ago about the issue with your images on his wiki, and he responded saying that he respects you and IMFDB. I also gave him a list of the images, and also Matty Dienoff isn't who uploaded your images there, there's also a user named Angel 956 also uplaoded a few onto the site. Right now, I'm just waiting to see if the images get deleted. If you want to talk to Philodox yourself, here's a link to his profile [http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/User:Philodox], and here's his response to me, if you want to see what he had to say [http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:72.226.76.56].
--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I knew you said you had an electronic tag somewhere on your images, and that's what I told Philodox. As for watermarking, I really don't like the idea of having a big IMFDB symbol on the side of the image, as I too believe this ruins the image. But one idea I do like is to have the site's name or your name on one of the corners of the image, like you put on this Cetme Ameli you shot for that user from wikipedia:

[[Image:CetmeAmeliIMFDBVer2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Notice on the bottom left corner you put Courtesy of www.imfdb.org. I wouldn't mind something like that as it doesn't disturb the image so much and it won't be too noticeable, but users will still see it and know who it belongs to as long as the lettering is darker then this image.]]

Anyway that's my opinion. Let me know what you decide.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

==Specifications template==
I have just now created a proper template for the specifications section (example [[Unique Alpine TPG-1|here]]). Although it is amateurish it is the best one I could do, please suggest ways in improving it.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 16:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

== RE: Your Expertise ==

While I thank you for suggesting that I become the black powder flintlock expert, I am not quite sure that I am up to the task. Though I have some experience and interest in flintlocks, I couldn't tell you specifics on them, such as the style of Pennsylvania Rifle (Allentown, Dickert, Lancaster, or York for example), nor could I tell you specifics such as what model of certain flintlocks, like was it a second or third model Brown Bess. Yet, if you want to shoot me a question on flintlocks or black powder, I will try my best to help out where I can. Right now I am just comfortable commenting on pages, as I am a new user.
--[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]] 18:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Patriot (2000)

2010-09-24T18:37:47Z

Markethunter:

The main rifle made for Mel Gibson's character was made by Frank House. To read an article about how Gibson learned to load and fire for ''The Patriot'' read ''Aim Small, Miss Small'' by Mark A. Baker. This was a column written for Muzzleloader Magazine, and can be found in ''A Pilgrim's Journey Volume Two:1996-2005'' by Mark A. Baker.
--[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]] 21:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

== Movie Goof ==

In the scene where Gibson's character rescues his oldest son, he tells Samuel to reload for his brother Nathan after his first shot. Yet, you don't see any reloading accoutrements with the them. The only one who has a powder horn and shot pouch is Gibson.
--[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]] 18:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Patriot (2000)

2010-09-24T18:36:56Z

Markethunter: /* Movie Goof */ new section

User:Markethunter

2010-09-23T22:23:29Z

Markethunter:

Well, some of you might be wondering why I chose Markethunter as a screen name, and what does it mean?
A market hunter was a longhunter, men who lived on the frontier of the central colonies, Virginian, North Carolina, Pennsylvania in the mid to late 18th Century They would venter out into the land beyond the Appalachian Mountains, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, for the purpose of obtaining white tailed deerskins. Starting in spring, these men would hunt in groups, and end their hunts in fall after the first frost or two. Deerskins taken in this time were better for tanning and making all sorts of items-moccasins, leggings, pouches, breeches. One deerskin weighed about 2.5 pounds, and the price per pound was about 40 cents, thus one buck for one buck. Some hunters got rich, others didn't. Sometimes they stayed out for a year. Daniel Boone, a longhunter, stayed for two years in Kentucky, 1769-1771. They had their troubles on the frontier, wolves, bears, panthers, the elements, and such tribes as the Shawnee or Cherokee. Sometimes their skins were stolen by these tribes. Sometimes the men died quick and suddenly. They had to be ever watchful, ever aware of their surroundings. After hunting in smaller groups of twos and threes (attracted less attention), they would rendezvous back at their base camp, caching and packing the hides on horses to take back to the market. In times of need they would have to live off the land, but at their camps they had a well stocked camp to return to at night. These were some of the first frontiersmen-Daniel Boone, Simon Kenton, Spencer and Laban Recrords, Elisha Wallen, and Uriah Stone.

I have found the longhunters' lives interesting, hence my interest in the colonial period. I do like other parts of history, but the colonial one is probably my favorite. I portray a longhunter in colonial events. While I find their lives appealing, I would like to set some things in order. I do not condone the taking of deer, or any animal just for the skin. In this day and age, we are taught conservation (I took Hunter's Safety). Also, the violence that was prevalent on the frontier is indeed, to say the least, unfortunate. Now, sometimes fighting against the American Indians was just (defending your family), and other times it was not (killing them just because they enjoyed it). It was, unfortunately, terrible on both sides. Whites and Indians would raid, pillage, and plunder. Scalping were common, as was mutilation. Homes were burned, as were crops, and families were torn apart. While we look at this today with disdain, we must remember that history cannot be looked at through present eyes. You must look at the past through the eyes of the past. I am not trying to make excuses, but rather give an understanding of why people did what they did. The longhunters were hunters (surprise surprise), and to them, making money by killing deer for there skins was right up their tree. Fighting the Indians was so that they could survive. Indeed, both sides were just trying to survive. But, the longhunters eventually put themselves out of a job. They, along with Indian hide hunters, killed millions of deer in the land between the Appalachian Mountains and the Mississippi River. The longhunters were followed by settlers, who put up stations, forts, and towns, which eventually became cities. The West of then became the East. The Indians, after being moved multiple times, were moved to Oklahoma and Kansas, to be put on reservations. Every story has some dark parts, yet every story should be told. A friend of mine who has been a historical interpreter for all his life said that we must tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And so I shall strive to do so.

To learn more about the longhunters, I would recommend two books for starters. ''The Hunters of Kentucky'' and ''The Long Hunt''. Both are by Ted Franklin Belue. I found them good books, and if you so choose to read them, I hope you will too. Also, you can check out artists such as David Wright and Andrew Knez, Jr. to see what the longhunters as they would have been.

With that, I bid you farewell, to keep your nose to the wind, and to keep your powder dry.

Markethunter

User talk:Ben41

2010-09-23T21:42:34Z

Markethunter: /* Thank You */ new section

==Page Making==
Two problems. You need to go on IMDb and find the correct title, and spell the title properly when you make a page. And two, actor pages do not require you to add JUST character and movies, the point of the pages is to list the guns the actor has used. IMDb already lists all the movies actors are in, so we don't (http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Ben41&action=editand won't) have to. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Band of Brothers ==

Thanks for inserting information onto the page such as characters, situations, episodes, etc. It looks much more cleaned up now! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 19:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

==U571==
Thanks for the screencaps. Just a reminder. Be sure to identify who is on screen and what they are doing in the shot. Also identify which actors used which guns. That is really important information for the individual actor's pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::Excellent! Great work! Thanks! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

==Hi==

Hey, Ben,

Great work on all the screencaps and contributions you've so far, but I must insist that you try to follow format:

*(1.) Always include gun pictures along with the screencaps from the movie.
*(2.) Always make sure you link to the gun pages.

If you want to save time, you can just go to a page for another movie in which the same gun appears, and copy and paste the code from that page to save time. If I'm doing a page for a movie that has a SIG-Sauer P226, for example, I will just go to a page that has the same gun (like ''[[Air Force One]]''), copy the entry, and then change the code as needed. It's a good habit to get into, and it's important for this site's completeness and cohesion.

Thanks, and again, great work so far. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:36, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks I'll try. ==

Thanks for the input, I'll try and include the gun pictures as well.

== Hey Ben ==
I was wondering if i could redo your page for [[Rules of Engagement]]. I dont want to step on any toes, but with your permission, I'll make it look real pretty. :) -[[User:The_Winchester|Winchester]]

If you want redo the descriptions, that's fine. I just pretty much did the screen caps. [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 14 Oct 2009

==Your screencaps are too big==
Gorgeous work on the Dark Knight Blu-ray pics .... BUT ... 1925 pixels across?!?!?! 925KB sized files?!?!?!?! These MUST be shrunk down in that the original size won't be looked at full resolution anyway and they are taking up way too much space. Have you noticed how long it takes for these images to be loaded when clicking on the page? I know that some of our veteran members (and mods) sometimes upload gigantic images, but I think yours are now the biggest on the site. Please make them smaller to allow quick loading of your page. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 14:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll make sure the rest of the pics I'll upload are smaller in size, but I think the reason it's still loading slow is because the majority of the pics are still PNG's. I'm trying to replace them, but there's a lot of pictures. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Robocop ==

Hey, great job at improving the screencaps on the [[Robocop]] page. They look great now! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 08:10, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, still a work in progress, but I really wanted to up the quality of the pics. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

==New Heat screencaps==
Were those taken from a Blu-ray? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

:No, these caps are from the Special Edition DVD. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, did you mess with the color? The reason I ask is the new pic you uploaded of DeNiro seems to have more grain in the pic.
[[Image:Heat-M16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Your pic.]]
[[Image:HT-00001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A quick one I took]]
It's not the same exact frame but close. My DVD is the '05 Two-Disc Special Edition. Also when someone sends you a message on your talk page, you reply back on theirs. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I use the VLC too. I never tried saving them to PNG first then the JPEG. I may try that. Also I uploaded a new version of my cap. It's the same frame now. The first one I took was a little bit after. Some of the shots you took look better than others. The shot of Pacino and Studi in elevator looks great, more color.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

==The Unit==
Please tell me you're going to replace all of the older pics with your newer more awesome pics. That will motivate me to get more screen used guns for the page. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

I have always used .PNGs in lieu of .Jpegs because, while they are bigger, they are of superior quality, especially when it comes to thumbnails. Therefore, identifying guns is easier as the images are clearer. Since the rules, standards and principles insists on space conserving .jpeg images, the Carlito's way page will probably be the last one I do using .PNGs. I decided this yesterday before you sent me this and just didn't think it was worth announcing, and the only reason the Carlito's Way images are .PNGs is because I was halfway done with doing them all when I picked up my work yesterday. Needless to say I'll conform to the rules this time, so long as the quality of the screencaps doesn't suffer too much. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 22:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

==The Problem with the Pirates pages==
Thanks for asking ahead of time :) But I hate those pages. There is little we can identify other than 'flintlock pistol, 'flintlock musket', 'flintlock blunderbuss', etc. It's crap. We can offer no other information other than what is completely obvious to the audience. Gee. Jack Sparrow uses a flintlock pistol. So what? They didn't need US to tell them that. And if we cannot identify what make, model of pistol (which is hard since so many are custom), then it is a complete waste of IMFDB server space to have the page. I'm going to go on a deletion spree for all the lame pages with no screencaps on them. It's a part of the rules and standards, that bad pages are NOT better than no pages at all. Lame pages, especially lots of them, makes us look bad. Good thing you're trying to fix a bunch of the bad existing pages. I wish more members did that rather than create endless NEW pages that are lame. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

==Aliens==
I wasn't sure if you were going to be adding anymore pics to the page. I added 3 screencaps, I have a few others that can be added too if you're finshed. I had already capped the film the same time I uploaded the behind the scenes images. Which was at the end of Nov. but I didn't get off my ass and upload them so you beat me to it. Which is no big deal.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

==Stargate==
:I've noticed that the screencaps that you upload are much brighter/clearer than mine -are you using Blu Ray? --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

==The Interpreter==

[[Image:Henry US Survival.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Henry US Survival .22 LR with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope]]

The rifle you see in this picture is the exact same one that was used in ''[[The Interpreter]]''. I got the picture from the web site of Weapons Specialists, Ltd. in New York, which is the company that supplied the weapons to the production. So it's a safe bet that this exact gun is the one from the movie. You can see it's the same configuration and everything. This same gun was also used in ''[[Lord of War]]'' (another movie for which Weapons Specialists supplied guns).

Also, the AK rifle in the movie is an AK-47, not an AKM (and most likely, it's a converted Poly Tech Legend). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:22, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

== White Hunter Black Heart ==

I'm into double rifles. Hope you weren't offended by my post on the discussion page, but it's fairly common for folks to mistake a double rifle for a double shotgun.I used to until a few years ago whne I set out to educate myself.Unfortunately it's all book learning. Personally I would love to own a double rifle - even a German double. But the German rifles start at $10,000 and go up to $20,000. The British doubles start at approximately $70,000 and go as high as $250,000. *Sigh*

I have the soul of a snob and the bank account of a working class joe. Oh well. The page looks good by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

==Last Samurai==
WOW! Great work on the replacement screenshots!!!!!! are those Blu-ray? Stunning! Now I need to secretly ask you to fix some of the popular (but poorly screencapped) pages ;) nudge nudge wink wink ..... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::BTW, per IMFDB rules, you can replace existing screenshots with your much superior widescreenshots. Some of the pages you've worked on, you seem hesitant to replace the crappier pics. By ALL MEANS replace the crappier pics! Great screenshots are a wonder to behold. Like [[Eraser]], i hope you can replace the full screen caps. No one can complain. The rules say that Widescreen are preferable to fullscreen. :) Also, do you check the forum? I was hoping to PM you there. Send me a PM there so I can reply to it. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
==Extreme Prejudice==
Thanks for redoing those caps. Gunmaster45 uploaded them for me before I knew I how to do them myself. Also I had figured Atwater's pistol was a Smith & Wesson 39, not a Commander. But I couldn't tell enough from my cap. Since you redid it, it's clear. I really need to start messing with the colors on the VLC payer like you talked about. I pretty sure there is only one dvd version of Extreme Prejudice. Also there is an M60 used by the cartel in the final shootout that I missed. I think they are killed by Atwater. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:S&W39-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 39-2 9x19mm]]
[[Image:EP-ColtCommander-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Buck Atwater puts down his Smith & Wesson Model 39 after the car is wrecked while fleeing the bank robbery.]]
Alright you must a magic setting when it comes to adjusting the colors on the VLC. I was able to make them better that what it was but still not as sharp.
[[Image:EP-S&W629-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|old stock settings]]
[[Image:DS-00029.jpg|thumb|none|450px|my new one with adjusted settings]]
[[Image:DS-00031.jpg|thumb|none|450px|mine adjusted]]
[[Image:EP-Win92SRC-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|yours.]]
What adjustment am I missing? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
==VLC setting==
Deinterlace? Where is that at? I didn't see it in Video effects. I messed with the gamma some. Maybe I need to use it more instead of brightness. What about hue and contrast also? Thanks for your help on this. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
:Edit found Deinterlace. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
::Man I tried to get the adjustments right. I give up. Have fun doing the rest of the Extreme Prejudice page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

==Burn Notice==
Your Burn Notice stuff is looking fantastic! Great screen caps and information, keep it up! --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

:Yeah, you've really filled out the page. It was a mess before you started working on it, but now it looks a lot better. I was actually planning to do some work on it for a while, but your screencaps are much higher-quality than mine, and so far, it's coming out great anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

==Hi and thanx...==
Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it and from now on will do screencaps with VLC... :)
But if you're referring to the [[Universal Soldier: Regeneration]] screencaps, I am not the one responsible for those ones... I'm just now gonna upload my screencaps and remove those ols trailer caps... [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 13:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
==HD and MM quotes==
You forgot, so I added it.

@@@
'''Marlboro Man ([[Don Johnson]]): '''Guns are made to be shot Harley, not thrown. -- ''[[Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man]]''

HD: You're gonna get shot up here.

MM: Well you're gonna get smashed down there!

HD: Hey man I'd rather get smashed than shot.

MM: Not me!

Another one of my favorites, not sure if it would work on the main page.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

==Hi, you need to categorize your pic uploads==
Great job, but when you upload screenshots, you need to put in the Category in double brackets and then put in 'screenshots'. Check out how other screenshots are 'categorized'. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== RE Screencaps ==

Yeah the program I have been using is not the best, and I could not change aspect ratio settings for some reason. I just downloaded the VLC player that you wrote about on your main page. I will try using it and if it works out fine then Ill probably go back and rescreencap pages Ive don in wide screen. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 21:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

==Don't change the Categorization of the Batman movies==
Those were done so that the movies will appear in the order they were made. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::I checked the page edit history. You were the one who changed the "Category: Movie | Batman 2" etc to just "Category:Movie". Don't do that. the Batman 2,3,4, etc. was done intentionally so that the titles sorted by their cinematic order, not by pure alphabetical order. We did the same thing to the blade Series of movies. Done purely by alphabetical sorting, Blade Trinity would be listed AHEAD of the first Blade movie rather than third. Hope that helps, but these specific page edits were done for a specific reason. thanks for your cooperation. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 10:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

==Marked for Death==

I'm glad to see someone is doing a page for this movie!

That being said, Hatcher's 1911 in the movie is not an SVI (I don't think those even existed when the movie was made). We had a topic about this in the forum, but the 1911 in the movie is a Federal Ordnance PSP-07. It's mentioned in the credits for the movie. Check out the forum topic here:

http://www.imfdb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=853

Also, the H&K automatic weapon used by Hatcher is not an HK53 (in fact, it's not even a .223-caliber weapon, if you look at the magazine). It is called the "HK51K", and it's a custom G3 conversion done by Bill Fleming, a Class III manufacturer.

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

==Enhanced image request==
Could you enhance this image from Dirty Harry. The reason I ask is to better see the magnum markings. This one guy keeps changing it to a Model 57 a 41 magnum. It looks like it reads 44 magnum on the barrel. But an enhanced image would make it read better. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:DH1S&W25-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This close up is at the end of the film.]]

Thanks. I have the newer box set too. But you usually have a way of making them appear a little bit better. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Pacific ==
So, where did you get access to those high resolution screencaps?--[[Special:Contributions/189.34.128.142|189.34.128.142]] 19:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

The trailers are available on Youtube HD. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Eiger Sanction ==
I'v made a couple changes. Hemlock is actually using a [[Smith & Wesson Model 40]] and not a Model 49 Bodyguard. Also the henchman is using hwat appears to be a snubby [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] instead of the [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] snubbie. If you look closely at the screencap you will notice no adjustable sights. The revolver appears to have fixed or duty sights which would make it the Model 10. Also I went ahead and listed the weapons used by Hemlock on [[Clint Eastwood]] 's page. And also showed on the respective firearms pages. But nevertheless it's good work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

==Great work on Waterworld==
I hope you finish the page. :) There are many dressed up guns in that movie. Alas, most of the weapons were changed back after the movie was over, but I can see what I can get from Syd Stembridge regarding what guns still exist that appeared in that movie. Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
==EP==
Since you're still in the process of replacing images, could you replace the one below?
[[Image:EP-MAC10-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:EP-M16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
With the guy above firing a MAC-10. Don't really need two images back to back with Clancy Brown. Thanks. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Richard Attenborough Page ==
thanks for upgrading it. I had run out of time and had to go to work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== Quigly Poster ==

I like the image of the movie poster. Nice. Really added to the page. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== RE ==
I actually created disambiguation pages for CSI and Delta Force to make page navigation easier. I will try to make as many such pages I can, since unlike Wikipedia, page navigation needs a lot of improvement because sometimes even if we type the proper page name in the search box, we get the result not found.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 10:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Actor's Pages ==

Thanks for the heads up, Ben. I agree that the pages look ''much'' better in the table format, but I've seen several different examples on different pages in terms of what column is which, so I figured I'd leave them in the basic format. However, it seems that now we've reached a more streamlined pattern (such as on the page you alerted me to), so I'll be sure to follow that from then on. On a side note, all of your pages look great, the screencaps are very sharp! Nice work! --[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
==Writing spoilers==
On the [[A Perfect Getaway]] page it would hard to write what's going on without spoiling anything. GM45 came up with this on the [[Se7en]] page and I have used it on several pages.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:55, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Seven-SAM1911-A1-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Highlight for Spoilers:''' Write spoiler text here.]]

== New Format ==
Sure I can do that. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

==Actor page response==
Sorry, but I'm not that familiar with that format. I know enough about it to modify and add to pages already using that template but have never created one from scratch. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==New pages==
Hey, Ben41! :) You're an awesome screencapper and page fixer, but, please, don't create multiple new pages with no screen caps. At least have some of the graphics ready to roll BEFORE the page is rolled out. Creating new pages with no screenshots or graphics inspires other (less capable page makers) to create scads of new empty pages with only gun listings. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:42, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:BTW I have 100% confidence that '''you''' will populate the page with great caps, but the worry is that others will do the first part and not the second part. thanks.

==We Were Soldiers==
I love your HD screencaps. And I know that you have the discipline to put in an appropriate number of screencaps. Heck you can replace even the ones I put in. LOL. It's all about the quality of the pics and the page. I'm just trying to get rid of the full screen caps which I dislike. Anyway, I know you're busy so I started working on the page - it being one of the most VIEWED pages on IMFDB. Did you notice I added more SCREEN USED hero guns to the page? ;) I can probably get more in the future when I have time. I just have to check with Mike Papac as to what guns were used on the production (but that takes time and checking records, etc.). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

==Thanks for the help on WWS==
Your screencaps look awesome. A little favor though. We're trying to keep the screencaps from between 7-10 per section. I was going to cull the XM16 page, but since you did an awesome job of replacing the full screen shots, I was hoping you would do the honors. A big criticism of the page when it was done earlier was the overuse of screenshots (the XM16 page had 33 screencaps at one point). Thanks again for your great work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== User: 99.12.124.133 ==

I sent him a final warning, if he doesn't listen this time, he's gone for good. By the way, excellent work replacing screencaps all over IMFDB with much better ones, you have improved many pages on here alot. Keep up the good work, and let me know if you need anything.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:54, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== RE: Thanks for the comments ==

Sure, I'll delete them when you start.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Virtuosity==

Hey, Ben, good work on ''[[Virtuosity]]'', but I have a question. Do you have screenshots of the following characters/weapons from the movie:

* Denzel Washington gets an H&K USP from a transport guard and uses it later in the movie.

* A bunch of the police officers in the movie also use the Beretta 92F, especially at the club.

* One of the terrorists in the flashback sequence is armed with an M16-type rifle, I think an M16A1 with A2-style hand guards (can't tell).

If you don't mind grabbing these screencaps, I'd appreciate it. It would complete the page. Gracias. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks! Also, I think the subguns used in the movie may be [[Walther MPL]] or MPK, not Franchi LF-57s (I started a discussion about it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

==Some Last of the Mohicans guns==
Hey there. Glad to see how much work you've done on the page. :) I had some pics of some of the background muskets (used by civilians and indians) that were 'rescued' from the production by one of the gunsmiths I knew who worked on the picture. As you know, the vast majority of the guns were destroyed during the filming (the stuntmen pretty much used their muskets as clubs in most of the fight scenes) and over 400 Brown Bess muskets were destroyed. I have a pic of two background guns. Is there any screenshot which may have these in them? I know they were for background people. One is a modern repro of a common commercial flintlock firearm of the time period, the other is known as a trade gun, i.e. a lesser quality flintlock that had less parts and craftsmanship, developed specifically for trade with the Indians (i.e. they let the 'locals' get the more cheaply made muskets). Anyway, just wondering if you thought we should add this to your excellent page.
[[Image:LastOfMohicans Musket2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|700px|Last of the Mohicans background screen musket]]
[[Image:LastOfMohicans Trade Musket.jpg‎ |thumb|none|700px|Last of the Mohicans background screen musket - fortress siege scene only]]

Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::Actually those were real firing muskets (modern replicas) of civilian muskets, so they were issued to the Colonists volunteers to represent 'private purchase' weapons of the civilians. The Trade muskets were issued to allied Indians to the British Army as they were the 18th century equivalent of 'lend lease' to friendly Indian tribes. They were indeed fired. All non-firing guns were rubber. The reason why so many guns were destroyed was that after 2 weeks of filming a lot of the actors and stuntmen and background extras were really banging on each other with the guns as clubs during the many days of 'hand to hand fighting' filming. I suspect the filmmakers expected this since the production '''purchased''' the muskets, they didn't rent the majority of them, except for select hero guns. Thanks. So the info on the movie page isn't quite right. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Wild Geese II ==

Thanks for adding to this page, ive been looking for stuff on that Safari Arms pistol for so long now. Do you plan to add screencaps?--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 21:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

==Kuffs==
I noticed you did the caps for Kuffs. Do you still have the movie? A quote could be added to the template. Slater says something like "I need a really big gun that holds lots of bullets" The gun clerk explains the Beretta and Slater says he'll take two. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

==House==
The Glock Eleas Koteas holds has a rail so it's a 3rd gen, but also Koteas has big hands. Do you think the gun looks like a .45 cap? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 12:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== Re: 24 - Season 5 ==
I'm still working on 24 - Season 5. Unlike most users I don't submit or save my work until it's completely done but I'll just save the first 8 episodes now that your asking. I've been stuck on Kalashnikov variants in the first 4 episodes that's why i haven't finished yet. - [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 14:02, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

:Those black sidebars only occur during the first 3 episodes. I think those are caused by the DVDs since I am using VLC Media Player. As you could see I've decided to finish up [[24 - Season 5|Season 5]] since someone already have been posting low res screencaps and not leaving much detail like I did in [[24 - Season 7|Season 7]]. Can you help identifying the AK Variants when I'm done with episode 4. I think if I do one episode per day so I could get much more done. I can't make the caps any brighter since they've already been sitting in My Pictures for 3 months. But I look forward to doing seasons 4, 6, and 8. - [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 22:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

==RoboCop==
Do you plan on adding any more caps to it? Emil Antonowsky ([[Paul McCrane]]) uses the Ithca 37 to shoot Murphy in the warehouse and some shots of him could be added. I have the dvd and can add them, but if you're still working on the page. I'll let you take care of it.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah looks like a TEC-9 mini.
[[Image:TEC-9Mini.jpg|thumb|none|215px|Intratec TEC-9 Mini with barrel shroud removed - 9x19mm]]

Also some more shots of Kurtwood with his "Sidewinder" would be good too and some with his Desert Eagle. Also a shot of Ronny Cox with the Desert Eagle at the end.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

==Missing In Action==

Hey Ben,
I was screencapping [[Missing In Action]]. Unfortunatly i didn't finish before you started adding screencaps.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks, The one computer i have that can do screencaps sucks but I really do need to learn how to properly use VCl. After Missing in Action I was going to do Delta Force 2 and the the rutger Hauer film Wanted Dead or Alive.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::My computer is chokeing up on VCL. if you have any more Missing In action images post them. I was also going to do Delta Force 2 but given my limitations that's out for now.[[Special:Contributions/69.232.200.58|69.232.200.58]] 04:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Crossing Over==

Yeah, I was gonna say...rapid turn-around! Anyway, now that I've seen the ones you uploaded, they're of better quality than mine, so I'd rather leave it to you (plus, it ensures that the quality will be consistent). That sound good? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

== A-Team Page episode titles ==

I do not know what is standart procedure, but should the episode titles be in italics or in quotation marks? I personally prefer italics. It looks better. -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I will go through the article and change the titles. Thanks for the answer! -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

==PNGs replaced with JPGs==
I reuploaded the images as jpgs with proper tags, but how would I go about deleting the pngs? --[[User:Damaku250|Damaku250]] 19:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

==The film page template==
I noticed that you changed the template for [[The American]]. That template has an interesting history. I've never used it because I was one of the early ones who didn't like that formatting change. Some users created a template that had the poster line BELOW the summary line amongst other slight changes. There was no consensus. I think just one person came up with it and used it. But I always did it the way that Bunni did it. The majority of the site was Bunni's way. But ever since one of the Mods made their own 'user's template' people have started changing pages to conform with it, which I never agreed with. Just letting you know, as a mod, I've always been changing them back to the original style from when the site first began. I still think the poster should be aligned top most and to the upper rightmost corner of the page to start with, which means the poster image line should be first on the page, just because that's the way 90% of the site was when it first started and I thought it looked best. Just thought I'd give you some of the interesting background history, (and why most of the pages which I work on are changed to that way, moreso if I did all the work on the page, which I did NOT on [[The American]] which is someone else's page. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::Since you started the page and put all the screencaps up, I defer to your preference. :) Which is what I said previously, but on my pages I prefer the old style. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
==Jesse Ventura==
I'm not one to trust Wikipedia. Ventura might have served in Vietnam, but is said not to have saw actual combat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura#Navy_career Otherwise I would have included him when I wrote up the Richard Chaves page. I was wanting to do more research into Ventura's military career. Ventura is a veteran though.

Also before I build an actor page I search their name before I build the article, take Melanie Griffith she also used a SIG P230 in Season 3 of Miami Vice.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

cont...

I thinking the wording Chaves' page should be: "Best known for his role as Poncho in Predator, Richard served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division, he is one of two actors in the film that served in the Vietnam War. The other being Jesse Ventura who served in the Navy's UDT."

Alt wording could be "Best known for his role as Poncho in Predator, Richard served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division, he is one of two actors in the film that are Vietnam veterans. The other being Jesse Ventura who served in the Navy's UDT." Or if you can think of better wording, go for it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

==Miami Vice vs 24==
I'm going to wrap up season four of Vice probably next week. Then I'll get started on season five. When that gets finished we'll be able to do an accurate count on the total number of different guns used. You can go ahead do a count on 24 if you want and see where it's at. Also don't just add the number of guns per season together. A Beretta 92FS counts once not eight times. If we did that 24 would be at 234 and Miami Vice would be at 195 currently with a season and a half to go. I think Vice was at 100+ different guns before the page was split into seasons. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Reupping a-team image ==

It´ll have to wait till Friday. I´ll get it done then.--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

: Sorry for the delay. Was away for longer then I expected. The [[A-Team%2C_The#Ruger_Mini_14_Stainless_version_with_Folding_stock|image]] has been replaced. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

==Cherry 2000==
You're doing great work but you're doing too many pages at one time. I clicked on one of the images you uploaded for the film a few weeks back. It was Ben Johnson holding a SAA (I'll always remember him from The Wild Bunch), I checked the paged today it wasn't on there. I went through your uploads and found it along with another that had Brion James with a Winchester 1897. I put them on the page. You may want check your other films and see if any images are missing. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== The Kingdom ==

Any specific reason why you reverted the close-up of Sykes with the 91? And the one of the MP5? Your over-brightened (and sorta yellow-ish) shots aren't exactly better. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

: I personally cant see the point of using your 91 pic over the new one. It´s more detailed and you get to see the stock fully. Though in retrospective reverting the MP5 picture was a good idea indeed. And the whole .png to .jpg thing isn´t necessary for me. I own Photoshop, so I can regulate the quality of my .jpg´s fully (which is also the reason why all my uploads until yesterday were so big, I only started to use lower compression then)..--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

VLC never made it darker for me. Are you sure that you have the video effects off? It might also simply be your screen. The brightness differs heavily between different models (there´s a massive gap between my laptop and my gaming rig in terms of contrast). --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

== Good Work ==
You're doing good work. Remember to link the movies to the guns or is that link the guns to the movies. Nevertheless keep it up. Thanks for the help.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Using Photoshop ==

Sounds overly complicated to me. I take the caps, work up the quality a bit, resize and save with quality compression 10. It works well enough. Though I am open to any kind of advice. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

: I was planning on redoing those, but lost interest that very same day. You can redo them if you want. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:18, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

== Jesse Stone ==
Yes but I have no definite timetable. If you want to do it go for it. My ego won't be bruised. On the other hand you suck for updating [[Fort Apache, The Bronx]]. LOL. I've been planning on doing an upgrade, but I was going to borrow my father's DVD and I'm not going to be seeing him until October. But perhaps I'll see if I can get some screencaps to add at that time. As you probably noticed I've been tinkering with that page over the past couple years. It needs some work. Good job. And you are welcome. Also right back at you. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Not a problem. And yes I've read that there is another Stone movie coming out this year. I believe they've already filmed it. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

==Admin==

Hey, Ben, the thought just occurred to me...you are WAY overdue for an Administrator position offer. Have any of the other Admins offered you the position yet? You've been doing a lot of work on this site for a long time, so I think you've earned it. If you want the job, I will gladly email Bunni and ask him to promote you. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== Guess we're getting promoted. ==

I've been invited as well. I put your name in, but it looks like somebody beat me to it. Congrats.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== All hail ==

our new Ben41 admin overlord. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 16:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

== Carnosaur 3 ==

Okay, [[Carnosaur 3: Primal Species|it's]] been taken care of. How's it look now? I've also added a section about two pistols that have been at the beginning and end of the movie, I really can't tell what the are, but I think they either are:

#[[Glock|Glock 17]]
#[[Beretta 92 pistol series|M9]]
#[[Taurus PT92]]
#[[M1911A1]]

Here's the pictures of the pistols:
[[Image:Carnosaur3DolanPistol.jpg|200px]]
[[Image:Carnosaur3HodgesPistol.jpg|200px]]

==BTW - a belated Congratulations on your promotion to Mod==
Now you will have to fight the trolls/idiots/fanboys even MORE! hahahahaha(evil laugh). Congratulations!!!! MPM

== Thanks man ==

Thanks for fixing the page I created. Sorry that it wasn't up to scratch. I was just surprised that no-one else had made the page in the three years since the movies release. Appreciate it. (Gunmaster12)--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
==Lame actor pages==
I would have just deleted them. Maybe then he would get the message. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Apocalypse Now Trivia ==

I did see the documentary, but that was about four years ago, so my memory may be wrong. Also, I've never really been much on spelling and grammar (my english teachers will tell you). - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 21:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== Category ==
How do I start a category or sub-category. I would like to create a couple new ones. For Italian movies/directors and Australian movies/directors. But I can't figure it out. Help --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:40, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Hogan's Heroes ==

I got a picture of Bob Crane with a P38, BUT you cant see his face thanks to the SS disguise. Do you think that I should still put it up? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:58, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== Re:Thanks for your help ==

Sorry about replaying late, but help with what? If you're talking about Banukis517, no problem, he seemed like a good contributor and I didn't want to see him get banned.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 17:59, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== PPK in The Unit ==

No, I do not remember which episode it is from. I guess you'll have to watch them all [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==Thanks for the Alphaville help==
My first time. Thank you very much for the assistance[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 11:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== New RoboCop pics ==

Well, I'm a good bit late here, but I want to congratulate you personally on putting on the upgraded caps for RoboCop, especially the newest Blu-Ray caps. It's my all time favorite film and it looks bitchin' in Blu-Ray from the pics I've seen (on here and elsewhere). Anyway, it looks great - Excellent job on it, as well as the others you've done, man. Glad to have every gun on there now. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

==invasion==
Yeah, thanks for the heads up but I am still working on it. Kinda hard when I'm actually in the middle of several productions at the same time. The aggregate time I have available to screencap and post on IMFDB is about 20 minutes a DAY currently. I should have done more but I still have a ton of unfixed screenshots that I have to crop and upload. Thanks for the message, though I would still like the opportunity to finish it :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 16:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

==Redirects==
You aren't doing the redirects right. You redirected the [[Colt Mk IV Series 70]] to the [[M1911A1]]. Check the link below that's how you're supposed to do it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Mk_IV_Series_70&redirect=no

==Saving Private Ryan==
You're images have too much saturation and I'm planning to revert them back to Gunmaster45's pics and/or replace them with mine. The movie was suppose to be like that to give it the old look. I recommending seeing the discussion page for [[Saving Private Ryan]]. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 03:24, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:Thank you for fixing it. Now the pictures looks a little closer to its original quality. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 04:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

==The Score==
I checked out The Score and noticed the screencaps are brightened and sharpened on the page. Excellent work, they look great! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== <nowiki>{{Film Title}} & __TOC__ </nowiki> ==

For some reason when you use <nowiki> {{Film Title}} & __TOC__ </nowiki> it will put the weapons list at the bottom of the movie poster. But if you type out "The following guns were used in the film" and use <nowiki>__TOC__ </nowiki> it doesn't. While I like using <nowiki> {{Film Title}} </nowiki> because it saves on typing, but when you have to use clear=all also it doesn't work to your advantage. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:18, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:It must have to with having written text or an image code above clear=all. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:38, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

==Nikita Disambiguation==
Putting the off shoot shows on the same lines is wrong. Those are 'footnotes' to the original entries, since they are NOT technically disambiguations since they have different titles. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:52, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

==Grindhouse==
Please, do not delete the screencaps from [[Grindhouse]] and turn them back. It was taken from YouTube videos, it's not illegal (cause it's legal to put on YouTube fragment of the film and watch it, and even do the screencaps), especially in case of [[Grindhouse#Hobo with a Shotgun]] - this was even on director's Jason Eisener's official channel. And you're wrong -there are japanese DVD release. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
: I think I can shock you. Just discovered that another video was from Rob Zombie's [[http://www.youtube.com/user/RZPerversion99 |Official YouTube Channel]]. Get back those pictures. :) --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:28, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I think we should just combine Planet Terror and Death Proof into the Grindhouse page. Thoughts?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah you're right, it's going to be released together in a few months. I don't that will matter much, except maybe allow better fake trailer caps. But User:Kloga does need to choose what Hobo with shotgun pics he really wants to keep. There's too many of them.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::: Ben, message about Rob Zombie means, that it's the same case, that with the Hobo, cause he directed this trailer and he legally put it on YouTube from his own copy of the film. So, could you take the pictures back, please? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Thank You ==

Thank you for correcting me when I posted items in the wrong spot. Very gracious of you. I appreciate it greatly.--[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]] 21:42, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Last of the Mohicans

2010-09-23T21:39:31Z

Markethunter:

Kudos to putting this page together Nyles. I would browse the site looking for a page on it, and never found one until recently. This is my first post as a member of the site, so please bear with my if I make some mistakes. I mean no disrespect in my commets.

I would not call Hawkeye's rifle a Kentucky Flintlock Rifle. The rifles were made in Pennsylvania, but many men used them in Kentucky such as Daniel Boone or Simon Kenton. The Pennsylvania rifles became known as Kentucky rifles because they were used by men who explored and brought other settlers to the state. There also is a song entitled "The Hunters of Kentucky" which played a role in the rifle being known by a different name.
I believe Magua to be using a musket of sorts. If you look at the picture of him aiming, you can make out a front sight, but no rear. Muskets would have had this.

Taking a look at the slightly anachronistic PN rifle, I am not so sure it is slightly anachronistic. Early rifles would have had a straighter stock and butt, with either a wooden patchbox or non at all. The trigger guard would have been larger, with possibly the set triggers made after the style on the Jaeger rifles. There also can be seen some carving on the stock at the ramrod entry pipe under the rear sight. However, I could be wrong on this point, but my limited reading has lead me to think the way I do. Perhaps more research on my part is needed.

When Hawkeye and Uncas are covering the runner, it is difficult to tell what Hawkeye is using. He very well could be using a Brown Bess, but this doesn't quite make sense with me as a musket is only accurate out to 50-75 yards. Wouldn't it make more sense for a woodsman who uses a rifle to be using a rifle? Perhaps the script writers thought of this? Uncas seems to be using a rifle, at least to me. The buttplate looks more like what you would find on a rifle, and getting very close to the screen, just a little to the left of Hawkeye's wampum powderhorn strap it seems that I find a small dark colored object that is sticking up perpendicular to the barrel. I believe that is a rear sight. The lock is a bit smaller too, as muskets generally had larger locks.

If you take a look at the scene of the massacre with Uncas aiming at someone offscreen, I see a nosecap that appears to be flush with the barrel. That is something a rifle would have had. You do see a strap, but it looks like the strap is fastened directly to the barrel. Uncas could be like Hawkeye and use a temporary sling sometimes.

I do not know what kind of flintlock Chingachgook is using. My dad says that it looks like a Northwest Trade Gun, but I am not quite so sure. I think it to be a musket though.

Again, thanks for putting this page up in the first place. It is a great first step.

Keep your powder dry boys- [[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]]

::Thanks [[User:Markethunter|Markethunterr]] but this page was built by [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] with a few contributions from Me [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] and [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]. If anyone deserves credit it's [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] for making this page possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Sorry. I mistakenly thought that since Nyles had posted a comment on how he edited the page he had created it. I accidentally deleted that in my attempts to create a post. Perhaps there is a way to put it back in? Anyway, then my thanks goes to you, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]], along with [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] and [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]].

:::--[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]] 21:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

:::P.S. In the courier scene, Uncas' rear sight seems farther back that what I have usually seen on rifles. Still, the buttplate looks like those found on rifles. "Killdeer" Hawkeye's rifle was made by Wayne Watson, gunsmith. You can either see his name in the credits, or go to his website http://www.waynepwatson.com/index.html. All I have to go on for the correctness of his rifle is from ''A Pilgrim's Journey Volume Two: 1996-2005'' by Mark A. Baker, page 121, in which he says "From the beginning, the prop master allowed Frank to build the rifle that he believed would be proper to the time and place of the movie (a privilege not allowed Wayne Watson when he built so beautifully the final Killdeer for ''The Last of the Mohicans'')." Frank is Frank House, builder of the rifle that Mel Gibson's character, Benjamin Martin, uses in ''The Patriot''.

Talk:The Patriot (2000)

2010-09-23T21:38:16Z

Markethunter: New page: The main rifle made for Mel Gibson's character was made by Frank House. To read an article about how Gibson learned to load and fire for ''The Patriot'' read ''Aim Small, Miss Small'' by M...

The Patriot (2000)

2010-09-23T21:34:43Z

Markethunter:

Talk:The Alamo (2004)

2010-09-23T21:33:56Z

Markethunter:

To read an article on the rifle built for Billy Bob Thornton check out GUNS magazine, January 2004. The article, by Bill Ball, is entitled ''The most famous rifle of Texas! Recreating Colonel Crockett's rifle at the battle of the Alamo''.
--[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]] 21:33, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Quigley Down Under

2010-09-23T21:31:47Z

Markethunter: /* Hawken */ new section

==Hollywood Wonders==
I figured these shots would take up too much room on the page, but here is what the the Sharps rifle can do with the help of Hollywood and its physics denying ways. Since the rounds are not moving at the speed of light and aren't as heavy or heavier than the person being shot, this is commonly known as impossible, despite what some "rocking chair commandos" may tell you.

Yeah but they look cool. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

[[Image:QDUSuperSharps-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This guy does a complete flip in the air!]]
[[Image:QDUSuperSharps-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley shoots this guy in the leg and he is sweeped off his feet.]]

There are several other things that are impossible about this movie. The setting of the movie is the year 1860.

Says who? Where and when is that stated in the film?

Did you watch the movie? It isnt an 1874, it was converted from paper cartridges, to self contained metalic cartridges.
-Blaise

''Yes, I watched the movie. And the company that built the gun (and two others) used by Selleck in the movie is Shiloh Sharps Company from Big Timber, Montana. They used their model 1874, not a percussion rifle converted to an metallic cartridge (their model 1863 rifle). Shiloh Sharps offers a '''Model 1874 Quigley rifle''' to this day on their website. Here's a note from a guy who talked to the Shiloh Sharps people who verified to him that it was an 1874 model in the movie, scroll down to the last post by Michael Hacker on January 13, 2007: http://www.survivalarts.com/archives/000238.html I'll say it again, the gun(s) Selleck used in the movie was/were Model 1874 Sharps. And for historical purposes, there were NO cartridge conversions of Sharps rifles in 1860-1874, no one made the brass for this, no one did the conversions. Quigley would have been carrying a paper cartridge rifle. I realize the script calls for Quigley to have somehow found a gunsmith who magically makes brass center-fire cartridges in an age when the only ones, and they were few and far between, were small caliber rimfires, and then could also magically convert the rifle to fire these. Simply stating that this is a premise of the movie doesn't make it doable in the real world of the time, or historically accurate, anymore than the cartridge conversion that some Texas gunsmith does to Selleck's revolver in another of his revisionist westerns, Last Stand At Saber River which is set in 1865 (not to mention the The Good, The Bad and The Ugly among others). So there was no one on the Australian continent who could shoot accurately at distance? They never heard of the Whitworth rifle, first produced in 1857 that could make head shots at over 1000 yards? Marston has to send fliers around the world to find someone who can shoot accurately at 800-1000 yards? Well maybe so, since the script was written so that none of his hired hands could hit the broad side of a barn with a revolver except that kid that finally shot Quigley in the leg. Frankly the whole premis of this movie is preposterous, why would Marsten not simply kill Quigley at his ranch instead of the whole melodramtic, idiotic "take him two days journey away in a wagon and the let Australia kill him". Huh? Shoot the guy on the ground at your feet and end your problem then and there. And then to top off the stupidity, let some henchman take the rifle and the ammunition with him, instead of Marsten keeping it as a prize as he undoubtedly would have. And then the wagon driver takes off instead of getting off the wagon and shooting Quigley dead after his partner is knifed (apparently they're all too stupid to search him for hidden weapons too). This kind of insanity continues all the way through, culminating in the kid shooting Quigley in the leg and then not blowing Quigley's brains out then and there when he steps on the rifle; and collecting the 200 pounds reward from Marsten. No, they drag him for God knows how long behind a horse, which of course doesn't kill him nor even tear up his clothes. Then Marsten doesn't kill him, but has a quick draw contest, and Quigley is so unaffected by being dragged for miles behind a horse that he outdraws three guys, even though he doesn't like handguns, good Barbera Boxer-style liberal that he is, and hasn't even been able to put his hands on one for the 3 month voyage and his time in Australia before he wins the gunfight. Yet he outdraws three guys who use and practice with a handgun all the time. Yeah, I was able to suspend disbelieve (rolling eyes here).''

Then there is the fact that the so-called Model 1858 Remington New Army did not begin production until at least 1860 (the Remington-Beals Army & Navy 1860-62), and the 1861 Army & Navy beginning in 1862; so it could not possibly have been in the United States, let alone Australia, in 1860, and if it's after 1860, the manufacturers are filling military contracts first and foremost for Lincoln's War. The Colt 1860 Army did not begin production until 1860, so considering tooling up, production, assembly, testing and inspection of the guns before they were sent to market, first fulfilling military contracts, there was again no way they could have been in Australia in 1860.

Then there is Matthew Quigley himself. We're supposed to believe that a Wyoming frontiersman in 1860 doesn't like handguns and doesn't carry one, that he'd go halfway around the world to a foreign country without asking or knowing exactly what the shooting job entailed (someone would believe a guy would hire a dude and pay for him to come halfway around the world just to shoot feral dogs??), and when he finds out he would be, in effect, so in tune with John Brown's views that he would go to war with his own people and side with black aborigines against them. Now keep in mind that it had been a year or less since John Brown had been executed for what today would be labeled "terrorist activities" and he would be called a terrorist. Brown led a raid on a U.S. military arsenal at Harper's Ferry, Virginia (this was when the six western counties were still part of the state of Virginia) the goal of which was to lead a slave rebellion and basically overthrow the government of the United States. He was captured, tried for treason and hanged for leading what the government today has made a dirty word, militia, and Brown and his group were in effect, "insurgents". And Matthew Quigley, Wyoming frontiersman who would have had to have had his share of run-ins with hostile Indians, is supposed to be a spritual kinsman of John Brown? I don't think so, not in the 1860's. This movie basically makes Tom Selleck's character into a 1968 liberal Democrat from New York. Bleech.

This is a great debate, but why don't you guys actually have a signature? What are you all afraid of? Also I just watched the movie today and nowhere does it say anything about it being 1860. I just figure it's the late 1860's or even the early 1870's. It's still agood movie even if it isn't an accurate historical portrayl of the hero. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:42, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Is there some great significance to "having a signature"? If it's after Lincoln's War or in the 1870's, then why is no one carrying a Henry, a Goldenboy Winchester or a Model 73, or even a Spencer? No cartridge conversion revolvers either, (the first one of those was the Remington New Model Army in 1868 converted to .46 Rimfire, according to Cimarron's website, and they paid a royalty to Smith & Wesson who owned the Rollin White patent on bored through cylinders; S&W themselves didn't start making bored through cylinders until nearly two years later with the Model 3 and Colt didn't start making cartridge conversions or doing it on customers guns until, if memory serves, 1871). These guys are armed with Hawkins Plains rifles (percussion) and even the shipping clerk at the end has a single shot percussion pistol under the counter (oh for the days of no passports with RFID chips, fingerprinting and facial recognition software!). I also found it odd that no one in the movie has a shotgun, ranchers and cattle herders in the Outback country would certainly have found a scattergun quite useful, especially with the threat of feral dogs.

:It could be the film just decided to depict Australia as behind with the most modern weaponry, and it could be Marsten and his men brought what they had when they first came to Australia and never rearmed. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Actually, S&W started making guns under the Rollins-White patent in 1857 with the Model 1 in .22 Short, followed up by the Model 2 in .32 RF in 1861 and the Model 1 1/2 small frame .32 RF in 1865. They didn't start making large bore guns until the Model 3 American in 1870, but they were certainly making bored through cylinders beforehand. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

:: or it could be that they could use black powder revolver because get your hands on modern bullets would be difficult with towns being far away. so they could make there own bullets and gun powder.

== Signature Significance ==
'''Unknown'''

''Is there some great significance to "having a signature"?''

Having a signature is polite. It means you bothered to make a page so when you contribute or edit things we know who did it. It's pride of ownership.You've filled out this discussion page and yet nobody knows who you are. What's your background? Obviously you have knowledge about the various firearms of the Civil War era. Why is that?Don't be such a stranger. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

== Was there anything similar to Quigleys Shiloh Sharps 1874 Long Range back in 1868? ==

I'm writing a story based in 1868 that calls for the protagonist to have something akin to Quigley's 1874, but the time period of the story is not flexible and must take place in 1868, so I was wondering if a gun like his existed back then. One that had things like double-triggers and adjustable rear sights. Thanks in advance.

Just don't tell anyone the date, it can take place in 1866, but if you're the only one who knows then there's no problem with a few historical inaccuracies. Besides, you could always handwave it and say it was custom built, not a production gun(or maybe an early prototype). Lastly, I'd worry more about cultural historical inaccuracies than any gun anachronisms. Face it, guns are tools, and you shouldn't bend a story just to fit its props. --[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 05:48, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
::There were many models of Sharps rifles made before 1874, so a Sharps model in 1868 would still work, it'd just have to be a percussion gun. Write something in like a Sharps 1865 long barrel percussion rifle fitted with a full-length scope. Say it's a sharpshooter's rifle kept from the Civil War. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Although I agree with Mr. Jigsaw, there certainly were target rifles available in 1868, but most were muzzle loaders. Here's an example of an American target rifle of the era: http://www.gatling-gun.com/SchuetzenTargetRifle.htm. Here's a breakdown of Confederate sharpshooter rifles, including the famous British Whitworth: http://www.cfspress.com/sharpshooters/arms.html. There was also the US 2nd Sharpshooters special-order Sharps 1859 infantry rifle, which had set triggers and was a percussion breechloader. It could have been fitted with a Vernier sight, or even an early scope, with relatively minor modifications. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

: Thanks everyone, this really helps.

== Hawken ==

[[Image:QuigleyHawkinsmusket-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's henchmen cocks his Hawken rifle as the Red-coats approach]]
That's not a Hawken in the above picture. Looks more like an Enfield that the soldiers were carrying.
[[Image:QDUHawkins-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|.... Quigley shoots the gun with his Sharps and destroys it. It's easy to understand why such a poor quality gun was chosen, because no armorer in his right mind would destroy a perfectly good firearm of good quality.]] The triggerguard is different from the Thompson Center Hawken, but it still is a Plains type rifle (haven't seen the movie in a while, so I don't remember).
--[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]] 21:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Quigley Down Under

2010-09-23T21:20:48Z

Markethunter: /* Thompson Center Arms Hawken Plains Rifle */

'''The following guns were used in the movie ''Quigley Down Under'':'''

[[Image:Quigley poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Quigley Down Under'' (1990)]]
__TOC__ 

'''WARNING! SPOILERS AHEAD!'''

==Shiloh Sharps 1874 Long Range Rifle==
Matthew Quigley ([[Tom Selleck]]) uses a Shiloh [[Sharps#Sharps 1874 Long Rang|Sharps 1874 Long Range]] rifle with a 34" barrel (4"s longer than a standard 30" barrel) converted to fire a .45-110 metallic cartridge with a 540 grain paper-patch bullet. It has double set triggers, and is fitted with a ladder-elevated Vernier peep sight and a Globe front sight. He is an incredible sharpshooter with this rifle and often makes use of the double set triggers for more accurate shots. Sometimes he shoots from so far away, the report of the rifle is heard 2-3 seconds after the impact of the bullet (Even though sound catches up with supersonic rounds after 300-400 yards). Several times in the film the gun is shown capable of sending people airborne (some even completely flipped in mid-air!), as movie rules states a big gun must send bad guys flying.

[[Image:UbertiSharps1874longrange.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Sharps 1874 Long Range with 34" barrel, fitted with Vernier sight. The film credits the actual rifle used as being manufactured by Shiloh Rifle Mfg., Big Timber, MT. Differences between that and the Uberti (pictured) can be seen in the photo - The tang sight windage adjustment is at the base on the Uberti while it is on the slider of the Shiloh's sight. The Shiloh has a patch box in the stock which the Uberti does not, and the Shiloh has the curved military butt plate compared to the Uberti's straighter shotgun butt.]]
[[Image:QuigleySharps3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley's rifle features his initials engraved on the side "M.Q".]]
[[Image:QuigleySharps2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley aims down his Sharps 1874. Note Globe front sight.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley fires his Sharps 1874 at Marston's men.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley uses his double set triggers. For those who don't know how double set triggers work, this shot shows how he pulls the rear trigger to make the trigger pull on the first trigger lighter, making the rifle more accurate.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley's Sharps laying among his gear.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley firing his Sharps.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley aiming his Sharps.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley shoots a rope out on one of his traps with a well aimed shot from his Sharps. Hitting a rope while properly rested is hard enough, but only Quigley can shoot one while laying on his back.]]

* At one point in the film, we have some excellent gun dialogue seldom seen in most movies, in which Quigley explains his rifle to Marston.

===Breech Loader===
[[Image:QuigleySharpsbreachloader.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"It's a lever-action breach loader."]]

===Cartridge===
[[Image:Quigley45-110Sharps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"It's converted to use a special .45 caliber, 110 metal cartridge with a 540 grain paper-patch bullet."]]

===Barrel===
[[Image:Quigley34inSharps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Usual barrel length is 30 inches. This one has an extra 4."]]

===Double Set Triggers===
[[Image:QuigleyDoubleSetTriggers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"It's fitted with double set triggers..."]]

===Sight===
[[Image:QuigleyVernierSharps-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"...and a Vernier sight. It's marked up to twelve-hundred yards. This one shoots a mite further. "]]
[[Image:QuigleyVernierSharps-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley affixes his Vernier sight to his rifle.]]

==Colt 1860 Army==
Elliot Marston ([[Alan Rickman]]) uses a [[Colt 1860 Army]] .44 caliber as his personal sidearm. He refers to it as the Army revolver and has much respect for its maker, Colonel Samuel Colt. He gives his second one to Quigley in the final duel, thinking he is bad with revolvers based on how he said he never had much use for one. When Quigley defeats him and his two men he says, '''"I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it."''' He pockets the revolver, then realizing he found a reason to use one.
[[Image:1860Army.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1860 Army - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtarmy1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston tests his Colt Army for any problems before the final showdown.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColt1860.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston with his Colt Army at the ready.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtarmy2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston's spare Colt Army, which he gives Quigley for the final showdown.]]
[[Image:QDUColtArmy-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkin sticks the Colt Army in Quigley's belt.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtarmy3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley draws and fires the Colt Army with lighting speed at the final showdown.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtarmy4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston lay dying, Colt Army in hand. Quigley said he didn't have much use for a pistol...not that he didn't know how to use one...]]

==Griswold & Gunnison 1860==
Marston's men are mainly armed with reproduction [[Griswold & Gunnison Revolver|Griswold & Gunnison 1860 Revolvers]] in .36 caliber throughout the film. They are not Colt 1851s as previously noted due to their round barrels and brass frames.
[[Image:GRISWOLD.jpg|400px|none|thumb|Griswold & Gunnison 1860 revolver-.36 caliber. Confederate manufacture]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtNavy1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hobb ([[Conor McDermottroe]]) lay dying, gut-shot from Quigley's rifle, with his G&G 1860 at his side.]]
[[Image:QDUG&G1860-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"You've got one shot left in that shooter. Make the most of it."]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtNavy2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"I got him! I got Quigley!" One of Marston's men holds the wounded Quigley at gun point with his G&G 1860.]]

==Colt 1851 "U.S. Marshal"==
Dobkin ([[Tony Bonner]]) carries a pocket version of the 1851, known as the [[Colt 1851 Navy|Colt 1851 Navy "U.S. Marshal"]] with ivory grips and cylinder grooves which Quigley also pockets for himself after the final duel.
[[Image:1851USMarshall.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1851 "U.S. Marshal" pocket - .36 caliber.]]
[[Image:Quigley1851USMarshal-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkin armed with his U.S. Marshal during a gunfight with Quigley.]]
[[Image:Quigley1851USMarshal-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the U.S. Marshal pistol.]]
[[Image:Quigley1851USMarshal-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkin lays dead holding his pocket Navy with Ivory grips and cylinder grooves. Quigley picks it up for his own use.]]

==Colt 1862 Pocket Navy==
One of Marston's men tries to draw a "belly gun", a [[Colt 1862 Navy]], from the small of his back before being shot by Quigley.
[[Image:Colt1862Navy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1862 Navy - .36 caliber.]]
[[Image:QDUColt1862Navy-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston's man tries to draw his Colt 1862 Navy.]]

==Remington 1858 New Army==
One of Marston's men carries a [[Remington 1858 New Army]] in the film.
[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 1858 New Army - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:QDURem58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men with a Remington 1858 New Army.]]
[[Image:QuigleyRem58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first of Marston's men to fire on Quigley in the town, armed with a Remington 1858.]]
[[Image:QuigleyRem58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston's man armed with his Remington 1858.]]

==Thompson Center Arms Hawken Plains Rifle==
Marston's men arm themselves mainly with [[Hawkins Plains Rifle|Thompson Center Arms Hawken Plains]] rifles throughout the film. Quigley kills one of these men and takes the rifle off his horse for Crazy Cora to use.
[[Image:ThompsonHawkinsrifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Thompson Center Arms Hawken Plains - .45 caliber.]]
[[Image:QuigleyHawkinsmusket-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's henchmen cocks his Hawken rifle as the Red-coats approach]]
[[Image:QuigleyHawkinsmusket-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora fires a poorly aimed hip-shot from a Hawken rifle at some attacking Dingos.]]
[[Image:QuigleyHawkinsmusket-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men with a Hawken rifle.]]
[[Image:QDUHawkins-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men tries to run and grab his Hawken rifle to kill Quigley. Note how the stock lacks a gloss finish and the general weapon is in somewhat poor condition, probably because in the next shot....]]
[[Image:QDUHawkins-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|.... Quigley shoots the gun with his Sharps and destroys it. It's easy to understand why such a poor quality gun was chosen, because no armorer in his right mind would destroy a perfectly good firearm of good quality.]]

==Bounty Hunter Dueling Pistol==
The gunsmith of the town offers Quigley a Italian .45 caliber dueling pistol, called simply the "Bounty Hunter", but he refuses, claiming he never had much use for a shooter (pistol).
[[Image:BountyHunterpistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Italian Bounty Hunter - .45 caliber.]]
[[Image:QuigleyBountyhunter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gunsmith offers Quigley his Italian Bounty Hunter.]]

==Colt Dragoon 1848==
Quigley also takes off the dead man's horse a [[Colt Dragoon|Colt Dragoon 1848]] .44 caliber pistol. Crazy Cora ([[Laura San Giacomo]]) uses the Colt Dragoon to fend off dingos from her camp and an Aborigine baby while Quigley is away getting .45-110 shells from a town. Presumably the same man who owned the horse is seen cocking the gun on the wagon as the Red-coats aproach.
[[Image:Colt1stDragoon-44Cal.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Colt Dragoon 2nd Model - .44 caliber.]][[Image:QuigleyDragoon48-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's henchmen cocks his Colt Dragoon as the Red-coats approach. Since it isn't loaded with percussion caps, it is pretty useless.]]
[[Image:QuigleyDragoon48-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora prepares her Colt Dragoon to use on attacking Dingos]]
[[Image:QuigleyDragoon48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora fires her Colt Dragoon.]]
[[Image:QDUColtDragoon-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora fires her Colt Dragoon.]]
[[Image:QDUColtDragoon-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora packs lead balls into the Colt Dragoon, attempting to reload it before the Dingos come back.]]
[[Image:QuigleyDragoon48-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men with a Colt Dragoon.]]

==Colt Walker 1847==
A full-sized original [[Colt Walker|Colt Walker 1847]] is seen in the hands of one of Marston's men during the shootout in in the town with Quigley. The Colt Walker used is most likely a reproduction. Only about 1100 where originally made and they now sell for US$150,000 or more.
[[Image:1847ColtWalker.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Walker Colt 1847 - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtWalker1847.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men fires on Quigley with a Walker Colt and a Colt Navy.]]

==Enfield 1864 Cavalry Carbine==
The British Red-Coats are all armed with [[Enfield 1864 Cavalry]] carbines.
[[Image:1864-enfield-cavalry-carbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Enfield P64 Cavalry Carbine.]]
[[Image:Quigley1851confederatecarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px|British Red-Coats ready their Enfield carbines.]]

==Boot Pistol==
At the end of the film when Quigley is preparing to leave Australia, the travel clerk cocks a Hoppes Model 300 Ethan Allan boot pistol (source, 3rd Ed. Black Powder Gun Digest, page 16) under his counter when asking his name, aware there is a bounty on Quigley.
[[Image:QDUBootPistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The clerk picks up his boot pistol.]]
[[Image:QDUBootPistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Name?" The clerk cocks the hammer on his boot pistol.]]
[[Image:QDUBootPistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The clerk uncocks the pistol when Quigley says his name is Roy.]]

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Talk:The Alamo (2004)

2010-09-23T21:17:34Z

Markethunter: New page: To read an article on the rifle built for Billy Bob Thornton check out GUNS magazine, January 2004. The article, by Bill Ball, is entitled ''The most famous rifle of Texas! Recreating Colo...

To read an article on the rifle built for Billy Bob Thornton check out GUNS magazine, January 2004. The article, by Bill Ball, is entitled ''The most famous rifle of Texas! Recreating Colonel Crockett's rifle at the battle of the Alamo''.

Keep your powder dry boys-[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]]

The Alamo (2004)

2010-09-23T21:07:24Z

Markethunter: /* Model 1766 French Charleville Infantry Musket */

''The Alamo'' was the 2004 film based on the legendary 13-day siege of the Alamo Mission in what is modern day San Antonio, Texas. The battle was not strategically important, but was pivotal in uniting the resolve of Texans in the Texas Revolution of 1835-6 (in which Texas declared itself an independent Republic and kicked out governmental influences from Mexico). Despite the fact the the Mexican Army was fighting the Republic of Texas, most people confuse this campaign with the Mexican-American War of the 1840s.

'''The following guns were used in the 2004 film ''The Alamo'':'''

[[Image:Alamo ver2.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The Alamo (2004)]]

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== Kentucky Flintlock Rifle ==
Davy Crockett ([[Billy Bob Thornton]]) most notably uses a [[Kentucky Flintlock Rifle|Kentucky/Pennsylvania long rifle]] during his attempted shot at Santa Anna ([[Emilio Echevarría]]) but he misses due to the wind. Though many people believe that Kentucky long rifles were the norm, nearly all of the defenders carried a mish mash of whatever weapon was available.
[[Image:Kentuckyrifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Kentucky Rifle - .50, .45, or .36 caliber.]]
[[Image:Alamo-ThorntonA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Davy Crockett ([[Billy Bob Thornton]]) rests with his Kentucky rifle.]]

== Model 1766 French Charleville Infantry Musket==
This surplus French gun was commonly used by the defenders of the Alamo. The Charleville went through a series of modifications since its inception and all variants found their way to America somehow, however, it is difficult to see which year pattern is being used in the film, since there are no closeups of the pan & frizzen side of the gun. For the sake of historical accuracy, the Model 1766 French Charleville Infantry Musket was the most common Charleville seen at the siege.
[[Image:Charlie.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Charleville Musket - 69 caliber]]
[[Image:Alamo-LongGunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Alamo Defender fires a Charleville 1766.]]
[[Image:Alamo-FlintlockA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Micajah Autry ([[Kevin Page]]) fires his Charleville 1766.]] I'm not seeing a barrel band on it. Is it possible that some models of the Charleville didn't have barrel bands? -Markethunter

== Flintlock Pistol ==
Gen. Sam Houston ([[Dennis Quaid]]) and Lt. Col. William B. Travis ([[Patrick Wilson]]) keep Flintlock pistols as their sidearms. Col. James Bowie ([[Jason Patric]]) is given two flintlock pistols when he is too sick and stuck in bed.
[[Image:sparroflintlock.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Flintlock Pistol]]

== Double Barreled Flintlock Shotgun ==
Lt. Col. William B. Travis ([[Patrick Wilson]]) and Col. James Bowie ([[Jason Patric]]) each carry Double Barreled Flintlock shotguns throughout the film. They are mostly seen strapped on their backs but Travis is seen most clearly when he shoots a charging Mexican soldier coming at Crockett ([[Billy Bob Thornton]]). Jim Bowie assembles his shotgun during the final battle of the Alamo, he uses it to shoot the Mexican soldiers coming in before they bayonet him.
[[Image:Alamo-double-barreledA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Lt. Col. Travis ([[Patrick Wilson]]) fires his Double barreled flintlock shotgun.]]

== Brown Bess Flintlock Musket ==
The Mexican Army under the command of General Santa Anna use Brown Bess smoothbore .75 caliber muskets, which was the standard issue long gun of the Mexican Army of the time.
[[Image:BrownBessInfantry-Musket-1722-1768.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Brown Bess Flintlock Musket - .75 caliber.]]

==British Baker .61 Cal Rifle==
[[Image:Alamo-Flintlock02A.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Cavalry Musketoon==
Short barreled muskets aka musketoons were seen carried by cavalry soldiers, most evidently by Sam Houston's horsemen.

==1795 Springfield Flintlock Infantry Musket==
[[Image:Flintlockmusket.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield Model 1795]]
Seen are some vintage 1795 Springfield muskets (from the War of 1812) used as secondary weapons.

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Quigley Down Under

2010-09-23T21:01:58Z

Markethunter: /* Thompson Center Arms Hawkins Plains Rifle */

'''The following guns were used in the movie ''Quigley Down Under'':'''

[[Image:Quigley poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Quigley Down Under'' (1990)]]
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'''WARNING! SPOILERS AHEAD!'''

==Shiloh Sharps 1874 Long Range Rifle==
Matthew Quigley ([[Tom Selleck]]) uses a Shiloh [[Sharps#Sharps 1874 Long Rang|Sharps 1874 Long Range]] rifle with a 34" barrel (4"s longer than a standard 30" barrel) converted to fire a .45-110 metallic cartridge with a 540 grain paper-patch bullet. It has double set triggers, and is fitted with a ladder-elevated Vernier peep sight and a Globe front sight. He is an incredible sharpshooter with this rifle and often makes use of the double set triggers for more accurate shots. Sometimes he shoots from so far away, the report of the rifle is heard 2-3 seconds after the impact of the bullet (Even though sound catches up with supersonic rounds after 300-400 yards). Several times in the film the gun is shown capable of sending people airborne (some even completely flipped in mid-air!), as movie rules states a big gun must send bad guys flying.

[[Image:UbertiSharps1874longrange.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Sharps 1874 Long Range with 34" barrel, fitted with Vernier sight. The film credits the actual rifle used as being manufactured by Shiloh Rifle Mfg., Big Timber, MT. Differences between that and the Uberti (pictured) can be seen in the photo - The tang sight windage adjustment is at the base on the Uberti while it is on the slider of the Shiloh's sight. The Shiloh has a patch box in the stock which the Uberti does not, and the Shiloh has the curved military butt plate compared to the Uberti's straighter shotgun butt.]]
[[Image:QuigleySharps3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley's rifle features his initials engraved on the side "M.Q".]]
[[Image:QuigleySharps2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley aims down his Sharps 1874. Note Globe front sight.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley fires his Sharps 1874 at Marston's men.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley uses his double set triggers. For those who don't know how double set triggers work, this shot shows how he pulls the rear trigger to make the trigger pull on the first trigger lighter, making the rifle more accurate.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley's Sharps laying among his gear.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley firing his Sharps.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley aiming his Sharps.]]
[[Image:QDUSharps1874Long-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley shoots a rope out on one of his traps with a well aimed shot from his Sharps. Hitting a rope while properly rested is hard enough, but only Quigley can shoot one while laying on his back.]]

* At one point in the film, we have some excellent gun dialogue seldom seen in most movies, in which Quigley explains his rifle to Marston.

===Breech Loader===
[[Image:QuigleySharpsbreachloader.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"It's a lever-action breach loader."]]

===Cartridge===
[[Image:Quigley45-110Sharps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"It's converted to use a special .45 caliber, 110 metal cartridge with a 540 grain paper-patch bullet."]]

===Barrel===
[[Image:Quigley34inSharps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Usual barrel length is 30 inches. This one has an extra 4."]]

===Double Set Triggers===
[[Image:QuigleyDoubleSetTriggers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"It's fitted with double set triggers..."]]

===Sight===
[[Image:QuigleyVernierSharps-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"...and a Vernier sight. It's marked up to twelve-hundred yards. This one shoots a mite further. "]]
[[Image:QuigleyVernierSharps-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley affixes his Vernier sight to his rifle.]]

==Colt 1860 Army==
Elliot Marston ([[Alan Rickman]]) uses a [[Colt 1860 Army]] .44 caliber as his personal sidearm. He refers to it as the Army revolver and has much respect for its maker, Colonel Samuel Colt. He gives his second one to Quigley in the final duel, thinking he is bad with revolvers based on how he said he never had much use for one. When Quigley defeats him and his two men he says, '''"I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it."''' He pockets the revolver, then realizing he found a reason to use one.
[[Image:1860Army.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1860 Army - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtarmy1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston tests his Colt Army for any problems before the final showdown.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColt1860.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston with his Colt Army at the ready.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtarmy2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston's spare Colt Army, which he gives Quigley for the final showdown.]]
[[Image:QDUColtArmy-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkin sticks the Colt Army in Quigley's belt.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtarmy3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Quigley draws and fires the Colt Army with lighting speed at the final showdown.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtarmy4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston lay dying, Colt Army in hand. Quigley said he didn't have much use for a pistol...not that he didn't know how to use one...]]

==Griswold & Gunnison 1860==
Marston's men are mainly armed with reproduction [[Griswold & Gunnison Revolver|Griswold & Gunnison 1860 Revolvers]] in .36 caliber throughout the film. They are not Colt 1851s as previously noted due to their round barrels and brass frames.
[[Image:GRISWOLD.jpg|400px|none|thumb|Griswold & Gunnison 1860 revolver-.36 caliber. Confederate manufacture]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtNavy1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hobb ([[Conor McDermottroe]]) lay dying, gut-shot from Quigley's rifle, with his G&G 1860 at his side.]]
[[Image:QDUG&G1860-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"You've got one shot left in that shooter. Make the most of it."]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtNavy2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"I got him! I got Quigley!" One of Marston's men holds the wounded Quigley at gun point with his G&G 1860.]]

==Colt 1851 "U.S. Marshal"==
Dobkin ([[Tony Bonner]]) carries a pocket version of the 1851, known as the [[Colt 1851 Navy|Colt 1851 Navy "U.S. Marshal"]] with ivory grips and cylinder grooves which Quigley also pockets for himself after the final duel.
[[Image:1851USMarshall.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1851 "U.S. Marshal" pocket - .36 caliber.]]
[[Image:Quigley1851USMarshal-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkin armed with his U.S. Marshal during a gunfight with Quigley.]]
[[Image:Quigley1851USMarshal-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the U.S. Marshal pistol.]]
[[Image:Quigley1851USMarshal-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkin lays dead holding his pocket Navy with Ivory grips and cylinder grooves. Quigley picks it up for his own use.]]

==Colt 1862 Pocket Navy==
One of Marston's men tries to draw a "belly gun", a [[Colt 1862 Navy]], from the small of his back before being shot by Quigley.
[[Image:Colt1862Navy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1862 Navy - .36 caliber.]]
[[Image:QDUColt1862Navy-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston's man tries to draw his Colt 1862 Navy.]]

==Remington 1858 New Army==
One of Marston's men carries a [[Remington 1858 New Army]] in the film.
[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 1858 New Army - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:QDURem58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men with a Remington 1858 New Army.]]
[[Image:QuigleyRem58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first of Marston's men to fire on Quigley in the town, armed with a Remington 1858.]]
[[Image:QuigleyRem58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marston's man armed with his Remington 1858.]]

==Thompson Center Arms Hawken Plains Rifle==
Marston's men arm themselves mainly with [[Hawkins Plains Rifle|Thompson Center Arms Hawken Plains]] rifles throughout the film. Quigley kills one of these men and takes the rifle off his horse for Crazy Cora to use.
[[Image:ThompsonHawkinsrifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Thompson Center Arms Hawken Plains - .45 caliber.]]
[[Image:QuigleyHawkinsmusket-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's henchmen cocks his Hawken rifle as the Red-coats approach]]
That's not a Hawken in the above picture. Looks more like an Enfield that the soldiers were carrying. -Markethunter
[[Image:QuigleyHawkinsmusket-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora fires a poorly aimed hip-shot from a Hawken rifle at some attacking Dingos.]]
[[Image:QuigleyHawkinsmusket-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men with a Hawken rifle.]]
[[Image:QDUHawkins-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men tries to run and grab his Hawken rifle to kill Quigley. Note how the stock lacks a gloss finish and the general weapon is in somewhat poor condition, probably because in the next shot....]]
[[Image:QDUHawkins-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|.... Quigley shoots the gun with his Sharps and destroys it. It's easy to understand why such a poor quality gun was chosen, because no armorer in his right mind would destroy a perfectly good firearm of good quality.]] The triggerguard is different from the Thompson Center Hawken, but it still could be a Plains type rifle. -Markethunter

==Bounty Hunter Dueling Pistol==
The gunsmith of the town offers Quigley a Italian .45 caliber dueling pistol, called simply the "Bounty Hunter", but he refuses, claiming he never had much use for a shooter (pistol).
[[Image:BountyHunterpistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Italian Bounty Hunter - .45 caliber.]]
[[Image:QuigleyBountyhunter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gunsmith offers Quigley his Italian Bounty Hunter.]]

==Colt Dragoon 1848==
Quigley also takes off the dead man's horse a [[Colt Dragoon|Colt Dragoon 1848]] .44 caliber pistol. Crazy Cora ([[Laura San Giacomo]]) uses the Colt Dragoon to fend off dingos from her camp and an Aborigine baby while Quigley is away getting .45-110 shells from a town. Presumably the same man who owned the horse is seen cocking the gun on the wagon as the Red-coats aproach.
[[Image:Colt1stDragoon-44Cal.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Colt Dragoon 2nd Model - .44 caliber.]][[Image:QuigleyDragoon48-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's henchmen cocks his Colt Dragoon as the Red-coats approach. Since it isn't loaded with percussion caps, it is pretty useless.]]
[[Image:QuigleyDragoon48-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora prepares her Colt Dragoon to use on attacking Dingos]]
[[Image:QuigleyDragoon48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora fires her Colt Dragoon.]]
[[Image:QDUColtDragoon-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora fires her Colt Dragoon.]]
[[Image:QDUColtDragoon-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crazy Cora packs lead balls into the Colt Dragoon, attempting to reload it before the Dingos come back.]]
[[Image:QuigleyDragoon48-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men with a Colt Dragoon.]]

==Colt Walker 1847==
A full-sized original [[Colt Walker|Colt Walker 1847]] is seen in the hands of one of Marston's men during the shootout in in the town with Quigley. The Colt Walker used is most likely a reproduction. Only about 1100 where originally made and they now sell for US$150,000 or more.
[[Image:1847ColtWalker.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Walker Colt 1847 - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:QuigleyColtWalker1847.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Marston's men fires on Quigley with a Walker Colt and a Colt Navy.]]

==Enfield 1864 Cavalry Carbine==
The British Red-Coats are all armed with [[Enfield 1864 Cavalry]] carbines.
[[Image:1864-enfield-cavalry-carbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Enfield P64 Cavalry Carbine.]]
[[Image:Quigley1851confederatecarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px|British Red-Coats ready their Enfield carbines.]]

==Boot Pistol==
At the end of the film when Quigley is preparing to leave Australia, the travel clerk cocks a Hoppes Model 300 Ethan Allan boot pistol (source, 3rd Ed. Black Powder Gun Digest, page 16) under his counter when asking his name, aware there is a bounty on Quigley.
[[Image:QDUBootPistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The clerk picks up his boot pistol.]]
[[Image:QDUBootPistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Name?" The clerk cocks the hammer on his boot pistol.]]
[[Image:QDUBootPistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The clerk uncocks the pistol when Quigley says his name is Roy.]]

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Talk:Hawken rifle

2010-09-23T20:49:57Z

Markethunter: New page: I took out the word early and added Mountain Men in the first sentence. The frontier was around long before the Mountain Men, just not in the same place. Also, there were Voyageurs who tra...

I took out the word early and added Mountain Men in the first sentence. The frontier was around long before the Mountain Men, just not in the same place. Also, there were Voyageurs who traveled as far west as the Rockies to set up fur trading posts. The Spanish also explored the Rockies before the American Mountain Man ventured west beyond the Mississipppi River.

Keep your powder dry boys-[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]]

Hawken rifle

2010-09-23T20:46:32Z

Markethunter:

The Hawken rifle was a brand of black powder long rifle used on the prairies and in the Rocky Mountains of the United States during the frontier days of the Mountain Man. It has become synonymous with the "plains rifle", the buffalo gun, and the fur trapper's gun. Born in the 1820s, it was eventually displaced by breechloaders (such as the Sharps rifle) and lever-action rifles which flourished after the Civil War.
[[Image:ThompsonHawkinsrifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hawkins Plains Rifle - .50 caliber.]]
[[Image:Hawken.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hawken Rifle - .30 caliber]]

==Specifications==
*Weight: Approximately 10-15 pounds
*Caliber: Round shot, averaged .54 caliber
*Action: Flintlock and percussion cap (after about 1835)
*Rate of Fire: User-dependent
*Muzzle velocity: Variable
*Effective range: 200 yards
*Feed system: Muzzle loaded
*Sights: Open blade sight

'''The Hawkins Pains Rifle has been seen in the following:'''

=== Film ===

* ''[[Quigley Down Under]]'' (1990)

* ''[[Watchmen]]'' (2009)

* ''[[Jeremiah Johnson]]'' (1972)

=== Television ===

* A Cavalary in ''[[Mail Call]]''

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[[Category:Rifle]]

The Patriot (2000)

2010-09-23T20:38:38Z

Markethunter:

Talk:The Last of the Mohicans

2010-09-23T20:35:34Z

Markethunter:

Kudos to putting this page together Nyles. I would browse the site looking for a page on it, and never found one until recently. This is my first post as a member of the site, so please bear with my if I make some mistakes. I mean no disrespect in my commets.

I would not call Hawkeye's rifle a Kentucky Flintlock Rifle. The rifles were made in Pennsylvania, but many men used them in Kentucky such as Daniel Boone or Simon Kenton. The Pennsylvania rifles became known as Kentucky rifles because they were used by men who explored and brought other settlers to the state. There also is a song entitled "The Hunters of Kentucky" which played a role in the rifle being known by a different name.
I believe Magua to be using a musket of sorts. If you look at the picture of him aiming, you can make out a front sight, but no rear. Muskets would have had this.

Taking a look at the slightly anachronistic PN rifle, I am not so sure it is slightly anachronistic. Early rifles would have had a straighter stock and butt, with either a wooden patchbox or non at all. The trigger guard would have been larger, with possibly the set triggers made after the style on the Jaeger rifles. There also can be seen some carving on the stock at the ramrod entry pipe under the rear sight. However, I could be wrong on this point, but my limited reading has lead me to think the way I do. Perhaps more research on my part is needed.

When Hawkeye and Uncas are covering the runner, it is difficult to tell what Hawkeye is using. He very well could be using a Brown Bess, but this doesn't quite make sense with me as a musket is only accurate out to 50-75 yards. Wouldn't it make more sense for a woodsman who uses a rifle to be using a rifle? Perhaps the script writers thought of this? Uncas seems to be using a rifle, at least to me. The buttplate looks more like what you would find on a rifle, and getting very close to the screen, just a little to the left of Hawkeye's wampum powderhorn strap it seems that I find a small dark colored object that is sticking up perpendicular to the barrel. I believe that is a rear sight. The lock is a bit smaller too, as muskets generally had larger locks.

If you take a look at the scene of the massacre with Uncas aiming at someone offscreen, I see a nosecap that appears to be flush with the barrel. That is something a rifle would have had. You do see a strap, but it looks like the strap is fastened directly to the barrel. Uncas could be like Hawkeye and use a temporary sling sometimes.

I do not know what kind of flintlock Chingachgook is using. My dad says that it looks like a Northwest Trade Gun, but I am not quite so sure. I think it to be a musket though.

Again, thanks for putting this page up in the first place. It is a great first step.

Keep your powder dry boys- [[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]]

::Thanks [[User:Markethunter|Markethunterr]] but this page was built by [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] with a few contributions from Me [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] and [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]. If anyone deserves credit it's [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] for making this page possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Sorry. I mistakenly thought that since Nyles had posted a comment on how he edited the page he had created it. I accidentally deleted that in my attempts to create a post. Perhaps there is a way to put it back in? Anyway, then my thanks goes to you, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]], along with [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] and [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]].

:::Keep your powder dry boys-[[User:Markethunter|Markethunter]]

:::P.S. In the courier scene, Uncas' rear sight seems farther back that what I have usually seen on rifles. Still, the buttplate looks like those found on rifles. "Killdeer" Hawkeye's rifle was made by Wayne Watson, gunsmith. You can either see his name in the credits, or go to his website http://www.waynepwatson.com/index.html. All I have to go on for the correctness of his rifle is from ''A Pilgrim's Journey Volume Two: 1996-2005'' by Mark A. Baker, page 121, in which he says "From the beginning, the prop master allowed Frank to build the rifle that he believed would be proper to the time and place of the movie (a privilege not allowed Wayne Watson when he built so beautifully the final Killdeer for ''The Last of the Mohicans'')." Frank is Frank House, builder of the rifle that Mel Gibson's character, Benjamin Martin, uses in ''The Patriot''.

Talk:The Last of the Mohicans

2010-09-23T19:28:04Z

Markethunter:

Kudos to putting this page together Nyles. I would browse the site looking for a page on it, and never found one until recently. This is my first post as a member of the site, so please bear with my if I make some mistakes. I mean no disrespect in my commets.

I would not call Hawkeye's rifle a Kentucky Flintlock Rifle. The rifles were made in Pennsylvania, but many men used them in Kentucky such as Daniel Boone or Simon Kenton. The Pennsylvania rifles became known as Kentucky rifles because they were used by men who explored and brought other settlers to the state. There also is a song entitled "The Hunters of Kentucky" which played a role in the rifle being known by a different name.
I believe Magua to be using a musket of sorts. If you look at the picture of him aiming, you can make out a front sight, but no rear. Muskets would have had this.

Taking a look at the slightly anachronistic PN rifle, I am not so sure it is slightly anachronistic. Early rifles would have had a straighter stock and butt, with either a wooden patchbox or non at all. The trigger guard would have been larger, with possibly the set triggers made after the style on the Jaeger rifles. There also can be seen some carving on the stock at the ramrod entry pipe under the rear sight. However, I could be wrong on this point, but my limited reading has lead me to think the way I do. Perhaps more research on my part is needed.

When Hawkeye and Uncas are covering the runner, it is difficult to tell what Hawkeye is using. He very well could be using a Brown Bess, but this doesn't quite make sense with me as a musket is only accurate out to 50-75 yards. Wouldn't it make more sense for a woodsman who uses a rifle to be using a rifle? Perhaps the script writers thought of this? Uncas seems to be using a rifle, at least to me. The buttplate looks more like what you would find on a rifle, and getting very close to the screen, just a little to the left of Hawkeye's wampum powderhorn strap it seems that I find a small dark colored object that is sticking up perpendicular to the barrel. I believe that is a rear sight. The lock is a bit smaller too, as muskets generally had larger locks.

If you take a look at the scene of the massacre with Uncas aiming at someone offscreen, I see a nosecap that appears to be flush with the barrel. That is something a rifle would have had. You do see a strap, but it looks like the strap is fastened directly to the barrel. Uncas could be like Hawkeye and use a temporary sling sometimes.

I do not know what kind of flintlock Chingachgook is using. My dad says that it looks like a Northwest Trade Gun, but I am not quite so sure. I think it to be a musket though.

Again, thanks for putting this page up in the first place. It is a great first step.

Keep your powder dry boys- [[User:Markethunter|Markethunterr]]

::Thanks [[User:Markethunter|Markethunterr]] but this page was built by [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] with a few contributions from Me [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] and [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]. If anyone deserves credit it's [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] for making this page possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Sorry. I mistakenly thought that since Nyles had posted a comment on how he edited the page he had created it. I accidentally deleted that in my attempts to create a post. Perhaps there is a way to put it back in? Anyway, then my thanks goes to you, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]], along with [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] and [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]].

:::Keep your powder dry boys-Markethunter

:::P.S. In the courier scene, Uncas' rear sight seems farther back that what I have usually seen on rifles. Still, the buttplate looks like those found on rifles. "Killdeer" Hawkeye's rifle was made by Wayne Watson, gunsmith. You can either see his name in the credits, or go to his website http://www.waynepwatson.com/index.html. All I have to go on for the correctness of his rifle is from ''A Pilgrim's Journey Volume Two: 1996-2005'' by Mark A. Baker, page 121, in which he says "From the beginning, the prop master allowed Frank to build the rifle that he believed would be proper to the time and place of the movie (a privilege not allowed Wayne Watson when he built so beautifully the final Killdeer for ''The Last of the Mohicans'')." Frank is Frank House, builder of the rifle that Mel Gibson's character, Benjamin Martin, uses in ''The Patriot''.

Talk:The Last of the Mohicans

2010-09-22T00:11:16Z

Markethunter: