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Talk:You Only Live Twice

2013-03-13T07:34:01Z

King rhoton:

Any idea of the handguns the security guards use when Bond is brought to Osato's headquarters while pretending to be Henderson's assassin? --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 02:31, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Colt New Service ==

Is this Colt New Service missing the ejection rod or is it just me? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 12:12, 13 October 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:Yoltw-webley3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bond picks up Blofeld's Webley]]

== Unidentified submachine guns ==
Firs ones looks like some sort of Sten submachine guns.
[[File:Austen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Austen Mk I - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Sten MkIII.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Sten Mk III Submachine gun - 9x19mm]]
[[File:YOLTsmg1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guns are on the right.]]

Second ones are MP40s.
[[File:MP40.jpg|thumb|none|350px|MP40 9x19mm]]
[[File:YOLTsmg2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bond and Tanaka run past the guns.]]
[[File:YOLTsmg3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two guns can be seen next to a Ninja.]]
--[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 13:31, 4 March 2013 (EST)

== Unidentified rifle ==
First one looks like a Thompson M1921A submachine gun.
[[File:Colt 1921A Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1921A Thompson with 20-round magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[File:YOLTunidentified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A ninja runs with his rifle (on the left).]]

Second one looks like a Thompson M1921AC or M1928 loaded with a 20-round magazine.
[[File:Colt1921AC.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1921AC Thompson with 20-round magazine - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP, made famous through countless classic gangster movies.]]
[[File:YOLTunidentified1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The ninja in the center holds his rifle.]]

In the same picture the ninja second from the left seems to have a Thompson M1A1.
[[File:M1sb.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[File:YOLTunidentified1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Fourth one looks like a Thompson M1928A1 submachine gun.
[[File:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine and early 'simplified' rear sight that would be adopted for the M1 Thompson - .45 ACP]]
[[File:YOLTunidentified2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The ninja on the left prepares to enter the volcano lair with his rifle in his hands.]]
--[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 13:54, 4 March 2013 (EST)

== C96 ==
In the scene where Bond is waiting for his first meeting with Osato (when Osato is arriving by helicopter), he's being monitored from a device in the ceiling which provides a remote operator with a video feed and--surprise!--a C96 mounted upside down. It's a very brief clip with terrible lighting, but the profile of that broomhandle is unmistakable. Plus, the gun is definitely the focus of the clip. I'll have to buy a copy of the movie this weekend to get a screencap that doesn't have a network bug watermark on it. --[[User:King Rhoton]] 0:30, 13 March 2013 (PDT)

Talk:Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows

2013-03-13T07:02:02Z

King rhoton: /* Mauser M712 */

Where did anyone get the idea that Austrian soldiers were involved? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:44, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

== Unidentified Rifle ==

I think it's safe to say that these aren't Gewehr 1898s. See below. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:35, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:MG98b-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The magazine that extends out of the rifle.]]
[[Image:MG98c-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Muzzle looks weird. ]]

Gewehr 1888's? It's got the fat muzzle. And the Austro-Hungarian Army did use a licensed copy. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_GEW_88.jpg] --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:48, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

Also, the rifle in the trailer has a visible magazine , the 98 does not have one. -G36Ghost.

== Mauser M712 ==

In the trailer between 32-34 seconds an unknown character can be seen loading a magazine into a C-96 pattern pistol, implying the M712. I would include this but am still somewhat unfamiliar with Wiki editing, and more importantly, how to upload a picture. Not to shirk responsibility, but if someone more knowledgeable can do it, thanks. --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 21:28, 28 October 2011 (CDT)

: Its most definitly a M712. The character using it describes it as using a 10 round box magazine, and even accurately notes it firing a 7.63 caliber round. He tells Holmes his revolver is a relic, in comparison. Edit: I believe that the useage of a detachable box magazine makes it a M712 right away. I think we should remove the C96 title from the entry on the main page. -MissySummers-

:: I agree that it's an M712, but given how many parts are interchangeable between them and "vanilla" C96's, I believe everyone classifies them to be a subtype of C96 (like M30, 1902 experimental, bolo, etc). If we want to get more generic, the C96 entry should probably be reclassified as "broomhandle", but that's a sloppy term which opens the door to Astra 900 and other clones, which deserve their own entries. -King Rhoton-

== Man portable machine gun ==

There was a scene where Watson took hold of a weird weapon that looks like nothing I've ever seen before and fits a top shiny banana shaped magazine and was firing it full auto [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:22, 17 December 2011 (CST)

The closest I can come is a Beretta M1918, though I have a feeling that's incorrect.[[User:pastorhack]]

:From how cumbersome and awkward it looked, think it could be a Villar-Perosa OVP M1918, the regular automatic carbine version of the [[Villar-Perosa submachine gun]]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:58, 18 December 2011 (CST)

::Just noticed that it is actually visible for a few frames in the trailer:
::[[File:SH2 trailer SMG.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
::To me this doesn't look like and OVP or a Beretta M1918, so am stumped. Neither of these guns have a magazine well like this. The profile of the barrel looks a bit like the OVP but it is too thick. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that this weapon is mockup up from something else. This gun doesn't seem to have any sights, and that silver bit behind the magazine could be the receiver of a donor weapon which has a conventional layout. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:15, 18 December 2011 (CST)

It's a mocked-up Villar-Perosa--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:54, 18 December 2011 (CST)

It really does look like a Villar-Persoa. So do we put this on the page? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:55, 1 January 2012 (CST)

Are we sure it's actually a Villar-Perosa that was used? I saw the movie and the gun resembled a scaled-down version of the 1895 light-weight Maxim that had been adapted for a Villar-Perosa style box feed. I admit I never got a really good look at the entire weapon, but it seemed to have the same kind of pistol grip that you would find on a Maxim. So I don't think we can say the weapon was intended to be a Villar-Perosa, and unless we can get some behind the scenes info on the production we have no idea what was used to construct it.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 13:41, 1 January 2012 (CST)

It looks like an early Bren prototype because of the curved magazine--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:21, 20 January 2012 (CST)
:First off, it clearly isn't a bren, as the bren has a much larger magazine for starters, and generally looks nothing like this. Below is a picture of the Villar-Perosa OVP M1918 Automatic Carbine:
:[[File:Villar-perosa 1918.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
:There is definitely a similarity but there are quite a few differences which I think mean it is not an actual OVP: the barrel is too thick and lacks a front sight, the curvature of the magazine looks too severe and the base plate is different, genuine OVPs don't have a protruding magazine well and lastly the film gun has an odd boxy stainless steel structure behind the magazine. I still think it is a different submachine gun that has been flipped over and modified to look like an OVP, but until Bluray screenshots are available it is very hard to tell. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:22, 20 January 2012 (CST)
:: I don't believe the weapon is supposed to represent the OVP, and in fact I don't think it is supposed to represent an actual real world weapon. From what I could see, the only aspect of the gun that resembled the OVP is the magazine, the gun itself looks like it was inspired by the 1895 light weight Maxim. At one point in the film a number of the guns are shown sitting on a table in the weapons factory, it's only a quick shot but I'm sure the they had pistol grips that resembled the type found on a Maxim. IMO, the propmaster was tasked with providing some form of man portable machine gun for this film, and the best solution was a hybrid of two real world weapons in order to create something that looked like it could have existed in 1891.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 00:10, 21 January 2012 (CST)
I always figured that the anachronistic guns were meant to be prototypes developed by Moriarty's weapons designers and were taken after his demise and the liquidation of his assets. The gun is clearly heavily inspired by the Villar-Perosa, but likely isn't necessarily meant to represent the Villar-Perosa. In this universe, the design was taken and made into the double-gun by an Italian designer as a way of increasing its firepower. It's an easy explanation for all the anachronistic weapons. Now the question is whether the gun was a real weapon converted and dressed up or a non-firing prop with CGI or pyro for the gunfire. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 07:13, 18 April 2012 (CDT)
== Anachronistic ==

this movie actualy takes place in 1891 and not 1882 as this artical states --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 14:03, 18 December 2011 (CST)

The text states 1892. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:16, 18 December 2011 (CST)

:I saw this movie today. 1891 has been mentioned twice. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:09, 30 December 2011 (CST)

::Yep. The original story, "The Final Problem", was also set in 1891. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 07:55, 15 January 2012 (CST)

== shotgun ==

one of the men on the train looked like the had a shotgun?

Correct. One of the soldiers had a Winchester 1887. Hard to tell if it was 10 gauge or 12. --[[User:Bad Boy|Bad Boy]] 23:36, 24 December 2011 (CST)

I actually thought that was a Martini-Henry, which would make sense for British soldiers of the time to be using. I guess it could be a (rather rare) Greener Prison Shotgun, which would look similar, in which case it would be 14 gauge. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 08:13, 1 January 2012 (CST)

I've seen images of the Greener shotgun and it looks nothing like an 1887. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:51, 1 January 2012 (CST)

Sorry for the imprecise wording, I meant similar to a Martini-Henry. I could very well be wrong about it being that, I didn't get a particularly good look at it and I suppose the 1887 being in the previous film lends some credence to that idea. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 15:17, 1 January 2012 (CST)

I just bought the movie and the shotgun was a Winchester 1887. [[User:Balin21|Balin21]] 10:40 14 June 2012 (CST)

== The Forest Scene ==

Is it just me, or was that the best action scene in a movie in the last five years? I can't be the only one who thinks this. It was intense, well shot, and surprisingly innovative in the way it moved the camera and used high-speed film. It was completely awesome. I'd also like to figure out what make of cannon that was that the bad guys (and Watson, earlier) were using. -Cutter9792 (1/1/2012)

No it wasn't. In fact, the slow mo ramping up effect is very dated and a bit annoying after 300 did it. There are plenty of movies that have far superior action scenes [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:33, 1 January 2012 (CST)

== Single shot pistol ==

During the scene on the train I am quite sure that I saw a small single shot pistol, used to dispatch one of the maxim gun crew. Anybody get a look at that?

It looked like a Colt .41 RF derringer. I suspect if it was then it was one of the modern replicas in .22 short.

I think it was the C sharps pepperbox like the one in the first movie--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 20:06, 20 January 2012 (CST)

== Interesting Observation ==

There are double anachronisms in both films:

Sherlock Holmes 1: Suppressed Nagant Model 1895

Sherlock Holmes 2: Selective Mauser Model 1896

And judging by the pattern, Sherlock Holmes 3 gonna have "*adjective/adjectival participle starting with "S"* *Designer/Manufacturer* Model 1897".

--[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 08:28, 15 January 2012 (CST)

* I believe the suggestion in both films is that they're not meant to be the "Nagant 1895" or the "Mauser C96", but rather new weapons of a design that would only later be commercialized. The Nagant could be explained away as a modification to a contemporary revolver by Holmes himself, while it's quite clearly suggested that Moriarty's been manufacturing some highly advanced weapons for the war he plans on starting. After his death, the designs were probably confiscated and later used as the basis for the weapons as we know them today, like the apparent Villar-Perosa and the Mauser.[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 07:13, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

::That's what I interpreted it as as well - all the anachronistic guns seen were just advanced prototypes made by Moriarty, in an alternative history "this-is-where-they-first-came-from" kind of way.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 05:25, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

== Suppressor ==

Were sound suppressors even concieved back in the 1890's ? [[User:EoghanG93|EoghanG93]] 11:58, 14 June 2012 (CDT)

Hiram Maxim marketed the first commercial silencer about 1902. Don't know how long he worked on the device though. I remember an episode of "Gunsmoke" where a killer was using a silencer he had invented on his rifle, so it has been done before in media. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 21:58, 14 June 2012 (CDT)

It was done to show that Moriarty is better than Holmes. as you see in the first film Holmes is "in the process of inventing a device which muffles the sound of a gunshot". Moriarty succeeds where Sherlock Failed.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 07:59, 17 June 2012 (CDT)

== Moran's sniper rifle ==

Moran's rifle looks nothing like Martini-Henry. In fact, it looks nothing like any rifle I've seen. Maybe it's a complete prop?

==Unused images==
[[Image:MG98-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Men charging through a forest with Mannlicher Gewehr 1888s.]]

=Unknowns=

==Revolver==
Rene Heron ([[Laurence Possa]]) attempts to kill the British Prime Minister with an unknown nickel plated revolver. I was going to guess Webley Mk I, but I noticed that it appears to hav a five shot cylinder.
[[Image:SHGoS_revolver_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_revolver_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the front of the cylinder as Rene struggles with Watson. It appears to only hold five rounds.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_revolver_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A brief shot of the grips as Rene is unarms.]]

==Artillery piece==
Probably not eligible for inclusion, but Watson uses it to end his standoff with Moran.
[[Image:SHGoS_artillery_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Talk:Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows

2013-03-13T07:01:29Z

King rhoton: /* Mauser M712 */

Where did anyone get the idea that Austrian soldiers were involved? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:44, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

== Unidentified Rifle ==

I think it's safe to say that these aren't Gewehr 1898s. See below. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:35, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:MG98b-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The magazine that extends out of the rifle.]]
[[Image:MG98c-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Muzzle looks weird. ]]

Gewehr 1888's? It's got the fat muzzle. And the Austro-Hungarian Army did use a licensed copy. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_GEW_88.jpg] --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:48, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

Also, the rifle in the trailer has a visible magazine , the 98 does not have one. -G36Ghost.

== Mauser M712 ==

In the trailer between 32-34 seconds an unknown character can be seen loading a magazine into a C-96 pattern pistol, implying the M712. I would include this but am still somewhat unfamiliar with Wiki editing, and more importantly, how to upload a picture. Not to shirk responsibility, but if someone more knowledgeable can do it, thanks. --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 21:28, 28 October 2011 (CDT)

: Its most definitly a M712. The character using it describes it as using a 10 round box magazine, and even accurately notes it firing a 7.63 caliber round. He tells Holmes his revolver is a relic, in comparison. Edit: I believe that the useage of a detachable box magazine makes it a M712 right away. I think we should remove the C96 title from the entry on the main page. -MissySummers-

I agree that it's an M712, but given how many parts are interchangeable between them and "vanilla" C96's, I believe everyone classifies them to be a subtype of C96 (like M30, 1902 experimental, bolo, etc). If we want to get more generic, the C96 entry should probably be reclassified as "broomhandle", but that's a sloppy term which opens the door to Astra 900 and other clones, which deserve their own entries. -King Rhoton-

== Man portable machine gun ==

There was a scene where Watson took hold of a weird weapon that looks like nothing I've ever seen before and fits a top shiny banana shaped magazine and was firing it full auto [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:22, 17 December 2011 (CST)

The closest I can come is a Beretta M1918, though I have a feeling that's incorrect.[[User:pastorhack]]

:From how cumbersome and awkward it looked, think it could be a Villar-Perosa OVP M1918, the regular automatic carbine version of the [[Villar-Perosa submachine gun]]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:58, 18 December 2011 (CST)

::Just noticed that it is actually visible for a few frames in the trailer:
::[[File:SH2 trailer SMG.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
::To me this doesn't look like and OVP or a Beretta M1918, so am stumped. Neither of these guns have a magazine well like this. The profile of the barrel looks a bit like the OVP but it is too thick. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that this weapon is mockup up from something else. This gun doesn't seem to have any sights, and that silver bit behind the magazine could be the receiver of a donor weapon which has a conventional layout. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:15, 18 December 2011 (CST)

It's a mocked-up Villar-Perosa--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:54, 18 December 2011 (CST)

It really does look like a Villar-Persoa. So do we put this on the page? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:55, 1 January 2012 (CST)

Are we sure it's actually a Villar-Perosa that was used? I saw the movie and the gun resembled a scaled-down version of the 1895 light-weight Maxim that had been adapted for a Villar-Perosa style box feed. I admit I never got a really good look at the entire weapon, but it seemed to have the same kind of pistol grip that you would find on a Maxim. So I don't think we can say the weapon was intended to be a Villar-Perosa, and unless we can get some behind the scenes info on the production we have no idea what was used to construct it.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 13:41, 1 January 2012 (CST)

It looks like an early Bren prototype because of the curved magazine--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:21, 20 January 2012 (CST)
:First off, it clearly isn't a bren, as the bren has a much larger magazine for starters, and generally looks nothing like this. Below is a picture of the Villar-Perosa OVP M1918 Automatic Carbine:
:[[File:Villar-perosa 1918.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
:There is definitely a similarity but there are quite a few differences which I think mean it is not an actual OVP: the barrel is too thick and lacks a front sight, the curvature of the magazine looks too severe and the base plate is different, genuine OVPs don't have a protruding magazine well and lastly the film gun has an odd boxy stainless steel structure behind the magazine. I still think it is a different submachine gun that has been flipped over and modified to look like an OVP, but until Bluray screenshots are available it is very hard to tell. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:22, 20 January 2012 (CST)
:: I don't believe the weapon is supposed to represent the OVP, and in fact I don't think it is supposed to represent an actual real world weapon. From what I could see, the only aspect of the gun that resembled the OVP is the magazine, the gun itself looks like it was inspired by the 1895 light weight Maxim. At one point in the film a number of the guns are shown sitting on a table in the weapons factory, it's only a quick shot but I'm sure the they had pistol grips that resembled the type found on a Maxim. IMO, the propmaster was tasked with providing some form of man portable machine gun for this film, and the best solution was a hybrid of two real world weapons in order to create something that looked like it could have existed in 1891.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 00:10, 21 January 2012 (CST)
I always figured that the anachronistic guns were meant to be prototypes developed by Moriarty's weapons designers and were taken after his demise and the liquidation of his assets. The gun is clearly heavily inspired by the Villar-Perosa, but likely isn't necessarily meant to represent the Villar-Perosa. In this universe, the design was taken and made into the double-gun by an Italian designer as a way of increasing its firepower. It's an easy explanation for all the anachronistic weapons. Now the question is whether the gun was a real weapon converted and dressed up or a non-firing prop with CGI or pyro for the gunfire. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 07:13, 18 April 2012 (CDT)
== Anachronistic ==

this movie actualy takes place in 1891 and not 1882 as this artical states --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 14:03, 18 December 2011 (CST)

The text states 1892. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:16, 18 December 2011 (CST)

:I saw this movie today. 1891 has been mentioned twice. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:09, 30 December 2011 (CST)

::Yep. The original story, "The Final Problem", was also set in 1891. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 07:55, 15 January 2012 (CST)

== shotgun ==

one of the men on the train looked like the had a shotgun?

Correct. One of the soldiers had a Winchester 1887. Hard to tell if it was 10 gauge or 12. --[[User:Bad Boy|Bad Boy]] 23:36, 24 December 2011 (CST)

I actually thought that was a Martini-Henry, which would make sense for British soldiers of the time to be using. I guess it could be a (rather rare) Greener Prison Shotgun, which would look similar, in which case it would be 14 gauge. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 08:13, 1 January 2012 (CST)

I've seen images of the Greener shotgun and it looks nothing like an 1887. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:51, 1 January 2012 (CST)

Sorry for the imprecise wording, I meant similar to a Martini-Henry. I could very well be wrong about it being that, I didn't get a particularly good look at it and I suppose the 1887 being in the previous film lends some credence to that idea. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 15:17, 1 January 2012 (CST)

I just bought the movie and the shotgun was a Winchester 1887. [[User:Balin21|Balin21]] 10:40 14 June 2012 (CST)

== The Forest Scene ==

Is it just me, or was that the best action scene in a movie in the last five years? I can't be the only one who thinks this. It was intense, well shot, and surprisingly innovative in the way it moved the camera and used high-speed film. It was completely awesome. I'd also like to figure out what make of cannon that was that the bad guys (and Watson, earlier) were using. -Cutter9792 (1/1/2012)

No it wasn't. In fact, the slow mo ramping up effect is very dated and a bit annoying after 300 did it. There are plenty of movies that have far superior action scenes [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:33, 1 January 2012 (CST)

== Single shot pistol ==

During the scene on the train I am quite sure that I saw a small single shot pistol, used to dispatch one of the maxim gun crew. Anybody get a look at that?

It looked like a Colt .41 RF derringer. I suspect if it was then it was one of the modern replicas in .22 short.

I think it was the C sharps pepperbox like the one in the first movie--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 20:06, 20 January 2012 (CST)

== Interesting Observation ==

There are double anachronisms in both films:

Sherlock Holmes 1: Suppressed Nagant Model 1895

Sherlock Holmes 2: Selective Mauser Model 1896

And judging by the pattern, Sherlock Holmes 3 gonna have "*adjective/adjectival participle starting with "S"* *Designer/Manufacturer* Model 1897".

--[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 08:28, 15 January 2012 (CST)

* I believe the suggestion in both films is that they're not meant to be the "Nagant 1895" or the "Mauser C96", but rather new weapons of a design that would only later be commercialized. The Nagant could be explained away as a modification to a contemporary revolver by Holmes himself, while it's quite clearly suggested that Moriarty's been manufacturing some highly advanced weapons for the war he plans on starting. After his death, the designs were probably confiscated and later used as the basis for the weapons as we know them today, like the apparent Villar-Perosa and the Mauser.[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 07:13, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

::That's what I interpreted it as as well - all the anachronistic guns seen were just advanced prototypes made by Moriarty, in an alternative history "this-is-where-they-first-came-from" kind of way.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 05:25, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

== Suppressor ==

Were sound suppressors even concieved back in the 1890's ? [[User:EoghanG93|EoghanG93]] 11:58, 14 June 2012 (CDT)

Hiram Maxim marketed the first commercial silencer about 1902. Don't know how long he worked on the device though. I remember an episode of "Gunsmoke" where a killer was using a silencer he had invented on his rifle, so it has been done before in media. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 21:58, 14 June 2012 (CDT)

It was done to show that Moriarty is better than Holmes. as you see in the first film Holmes is "in the process of inventing a device which muffles the sound of a gunshot". Moriarty succeeds where Sherlock Failed.

--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] 07:59, 17 June 2012 (CDT)

== Moran's sniper rifle ==

Moran's rifle looks nothing like Martini-Henry. In fact, it looks nothing like any rifle I've seen. Maybe it's a complete prop?

==Unused images==
[[Image:MG98-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Men charging through a forest with Mannlicher Gewehr 1888s.]]

=Unknowns=

==Revolver==
Rene Heron ([[Laurence Possa]]) attempts to kill the British Prime Minister with an unknown nickel plated revolver. I was going to guess Webley Mk I, but I noticed that it appears to hav a five shot cylinder.
[[Image:SHGoS_revolver_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_revolver_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the front of the cylinder as Rene struggles with Watson. It appears to only hold five rounds.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_revolver_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A brief shot of the grips as Rene is unarms.]]

==Artillery piece==
Probably not eligible for inclusion, but Watson uses it to end his standoff with Moran.
[[Image:SHGoS_artillery_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows

2013-03-13T06:54:05Z

King rhoton: /* Mauser C96 */

[[Image:AGOSposter.jpg|thumb|right|301px|''Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows'' (2011)]]

'''''Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows''''' is the 2011 sequel to 2009's ''Sherlock Holmes'' directed by [[Guy Ritchie]] and starring [[Robert Downey Jr.]], [[Jude Law]], [[Noomi Rapace]] and Jared Harris.

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=Handguns=
== Webley Mk V ==
In the alleyway brawl, an attacker (uncredited) pulls a [[Webley Mk V]] on Sherlock Holmes ([[Robert Downey Jr.]]), but Holmes is able to take it away. Madam Simza Heron ([[Noomi Rapace]]) hands Holmes another one before he and Watson ([[Jude Law]]) infiltrate the Meinhard factory.
[[Image:Webley Mk. V.JPG|thumb|none|300px|.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The one-eyed attacker with his Webley.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Webley-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes unloads the revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes handing the now empty revolver back. Note the shape of the grips.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes with another Webley Mk V in the Heilbronn factory.]]

== Webley Bulldog==
Mary Watson ([[Kelly Reilly]]) pulls out Watson's [[Webley Bulldog]] on their honeymoon train. Dr. Watson later uses it to fend off the assassins.
[[File:WebleyBulldog.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Webley "British" Bulldog Revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mary finds her husband's revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mary holds the Bulldog on one of the assassins before her husband tosses him off of the train.]]
[[File:SH 2 bulldog.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Watson checks the hallway.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|That's... unfortunate.]]

==Webley No. 5==
Holmes fires upon the assassins with a what appears to be a [[Webley No.5]] revolver before handing it off to Watson.
[[File:0bd1cce5c59b8d2ac79a613bc71209e2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nickle-plated Webley No.5 with Adams type ejector.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM6_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes hands Watson his revolver.]]

== Sharps Model 1A Pepperbox ==
Sherlock Holmes ([[Robert Downey, Jr.]]) carries a [[Sharps Pepperbox|Sharps Model 1A Pepperbox]] pistol while dressed in drag on the train to Brighton, and Watson ([[Jude Law]]) uses it to disable one of Moriarty's henchmen manning the machine gun.
[[File:Sharps Model 1A.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Sharps Model 1A - .22 Short]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes checks the hallway with his drawn pepperbox.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson with the pepperbox as he and Holmes take cover.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson fires on the assassins with the pepperbox.]]

==Mauser C96==
Colonel Sebastian Moran ([[Paul Anderson]]) confronts Holmes with a [[Mauser C96]] in the Meinhard factory. Holmes later uses one during the shootout in the factory. The use of this gun in the movie is rather anachronistic as it's set in 1891 and the C96 was first produced in 1896. The hammer and address panel are indicative of the 1930's model, but since Moran tosses Holmes a removable magazine for the C96, it must be a Schnellfeuer version of the C96, which wasn't commercially available until 1932. It is implied that the C96 design is a prototype developed by Moriarty's weapons designers for the impending war he desires to start.
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mauser C96 "Broomhandle" - 7.63x25mm Mauser.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran boasts to Holmes about his brand new automatic pistol.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A box full of C96 pistols.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes picks up a C96.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes shoots a soldier in the train shed during the escape.]]
[[Image:AGOS-C96.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes loads a magazine into his C96. Most C96's load from the top.]]

==Mle 1892 Revolver==
Anarchist Claude Ravache ([[Thierry Neuvic]]) shoots himself with a [[Mle 1892 Revolver]]. Watson later picks it up to confront the other anarchists. Watson still has this revolver, or another copy when he and Holmes infiltrate the Meinhard factory.
[[Image:Mle_1892.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Modele d’Ordonnance Mle 1892 Revolver]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Spoiler?]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson opens fire on the anarchists.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the revolver tucked in Watson's pants.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson with his revolver out while pinned down by Moran.]]

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Andrzej ([[Vladimir 'Furdo' Furdik]]) is armed with a [[Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873]] during the factory escape.
[[Image:Chamelot-Delvigne-Model-1873B.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Chamelot-Delvigne Mle. 1873 (blued) - 11mm. This example appears to have a broken trigger return spring and something wrong with the loading gate.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1873_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andrzej with his revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1873_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andrzej with his revolver, Watson with the custom SMG, and Holmes with a C96.]]

=Shotguns=
==Winchester Model 1887==
One of Moriarty's train hitmen tries to fire a [[Winchester Model 1887]] shotgun on Holmes and Watson, but sets himself on fire due to Holmes' sabotage.
[[File:PaulNewmanShotgunActual.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1887 Shotgun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins retreat when Holmes opens fire.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins with the Winchester 1887.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the markings on the barrel can be read, "12 GA, 22" 2 3/4"]]

=Rifles=
==Mauser Gewehr 1888==
[[Mauser Gewehr 1888|1888 Commission Rifles(Gewehr 88)]]s are used by the Meinhard guards and several men. Madam Simza, Holmes, Watson, and Moran use them during the factory escape.
[[Image:Gewehr1888_OE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Gewehr 1888 - 7.92x57mm Mauser. This sample was an issued rifle in the Ottoman Empire, updated in 1938. This is a movie armory weapon. The version in the movie is the original format and has a barrel jacket.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the twins (either Alexandre or Victor Carril) aims his Commission Rifle.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A factory guard aims his Gewehr 88 at the escaping team. Notice that the bolt is not fully closed. Since the rifle fired immediately afterwards anyway, it's probable that the film used CGI muzzle flashes.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes deflects a bayonet thrust.]]
[[Image:MG98b-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes ejects a spent round before disarming the user.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes then chambers a new round. The receiver is marked "SPANDAU 1890".]]
[[Image:MG98c-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Watson aiming a captured Mannlicher Gewehr 1888.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran aims his rifle at the escaping party.]]

==Customized Martini-Henry Sniper Rifle==
Col. Moran ([[Paul Anderson]]) uses a [[Martini-Henry Rifle Series|Customized Martini-Henry sniper rifle]] , which is fitting since he is an veteran of the Anglo-Afghan war. He's also described as the best shot in the army before his dismissal (which Watson erroneously refers to as a dishonorable discharge, which is only reserved for enlisted men.)
[[Image:Martinisporter.jpg|400px|thumb|none| Martini-Henry "Sporter" .577-.450 caliber modified by the famous London gunsmith J. Rigby]]
[[Image:GL-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The rifle in its case.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran begins to assemble the rifle.]]
[[Image:GLb-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moran adds a suppressor to the rifle.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran takes aim.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran loads a round.]]
[[Image:GLc-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moran fires the sniper rifle.]]

=Other=
==Maxim 1895==
Two of Moriarty's gunmen man a [[Maxim#Maxim 1895|Maxim 1895]] with brass water jacket, and spade grips in an attempt to kill Dr. and Mrs. Watson.
[[Image:Maxim1895.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Maxim Model 1895 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Maxim_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins reveal the Maxim.]]
[[Image:Maxim-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moriarty's gunman opens up on Holmes and Watson.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Maxim_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_spitzer_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Maxim's ammunition belt with Holmes' surprise. The use of spitzer rounds in 1891 is an anachronism.]]

==No. 2 Mk II Hale Grenade==
The assassins on the train are equipped with what appear to be modified No. 2 Mk II Hale Grenades. Holmes uses one to set a booby trap.
[[Image:SHGoS_grenade_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes' booby trap in place.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_grenade_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bag of grenades.]]

==Custom Submachine Gun==
The train assassins and later Watson use what appear to be steampunk inspired custom submachine guns. They load from the top, and appear to be only capable of being fired from the hip.
[[Image:SHGoS_SMG_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson fires the SMG during the factory escape.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SMG_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|There appears to be a handgrip on the left side of the gun.]]

==Gatling Gun==
Meinhard guards use [[Gatling Gun]]s fed from Broadwell drums.
[[File:Gatling gun 1865.jpg|thumb|400px|none|An 1865 Gatling Gun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Meinhard guards unveil the Gatling gun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the guards fits the Broadwell drum.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gatling Gun lays down fire on the escaping party. (Why the guards are using a Gatling gun when they have access to Maxim guns is unknown.)]]

==7.58 cm Minenwerfer==
Meinhard guards attack the escaping party with 7.58 cm Minenwerfers. This is yet another anachronism, as this weapon wasn't introduced until 1909.
[[Image:SHGoS_mortar_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Meinhard guard loads the mortar.]]
[[File:SH 2 gatling.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Trivia=
==.223 Shell Casing==
Colonel Moran is shown assembling a poison dart cartridge using a modern Winchester .223 shell casing.
[[Image:SHGoS_casing_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"WINCHESTER .223 REM"]]

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Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows

2013-03-13T06:52:11Z

King rhoton: /* Mauser C96 */

[[Image:AGOSposter.jpg|thumb|right|301px|''Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows'' (2011)]]

'''''Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows''''' is the 2011 sequel to 2009's ''Sherlock Holmes'' directed by [[Guy Ritchie]] and starring [[Robert Downey Jr.]], [[Jude Law]], [[Noomi Rapace]] and Jared Harris.

{{Film Title}}

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=Handguns=
== Webley Mk V ==
In the alleyway brawl, an attacker (uncredited) pulls a [[Webley Mk V]] on Sherlock Holmes ([[Robert Downey Jr.]]), but Holmes is able to take it away. Madam Simza Heron ([[Noomi Rapace]]) hands Holmes another one before he and Watson ([[Jude Law]]) infiltrate the Meinhard factory.
[[Image:Webley Mk. V.JPG|thumb|none|300px|.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The one-eyed attacker with his Webley.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Webley-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes unloads the revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes handing the now empty revolver back. Note the shape of the grips.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes with another Webley Mk V in the Heilbronn factory.]]

== Webley Bulldog==
Mary Watson ([[Kelly Reilly]]) pulls out Watson's [[Webley Bulldog]] on their honeymoon train. Dr. Watson later uses it to fend off the assassins.
[[File:WebleyBulldog.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Webley "British" Bulldog Revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mary finds her husband's revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mary holds the Bulldog on one of the assassins before her husband tosses him off of the train.]]
[[File:SH 2 bulldog.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Watson checks the hallway.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|That's... unfortunate.]]

==Webley No. 5==
Holmes fires upon the assassins with a what appears to be a [[Webley No.5]] revolver before handing it off to Watson.
[[File:0bd1cce5c59b8d2ac79a613bc71209e2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nickle-plated Webley No.5 with Adams type ejector.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM6_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes hands Watson his revolver.]]

== Sharps Model 1A Pepperbox ==
Sherlock Holmes ([[Robert Downey, Jr.]]) carries a [[Sharps Pepperbox|Sharps Model 1A Pepperbox]] pistol while dressed in drag on the train to Brighton, and Watson ([[Jude Law]]) uses it to disable one of Moriarty's henchmen manning the machine gun.
[[File:Sharps Model 1A.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Sharps Model 1A - .22 Short]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes checks the hallway with his drawn pepperbox.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson with the pepperbox as he and Holmes take cover.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson fires on the assassins with the pepperbox.]]

==Mauser C96==
Colonel Sebastian Moran ([[Paul Anderson]]) confronts Holmes with a [[Mauser C96]] in the Meinhard factory. Holmes later uses one during the shootout in the factory. The use of this gun in the movie is rather anachronistic as it's set in 1891 and the C96 was first produced in 1896. Furthermore, as Moran tosses Holmes a removable magazine for the C96, it must be a Schnellfeuer version of the C96, which wasn't commercially available until 1932. It is implied that the C96 design is a prototype developed by Moriarty's weapons designers for the impending war he desires to start.
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mauser C96 "Broomhandle" - 7.63x25mm Mauser.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran boasts to Holmes about his brand new automatic pistol.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A box full of C96 pistols.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes picks up a C96.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes shoots a soldier in the train shed during the escape.]]
[[Image:AGOS-C96.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes loads a magazine into his C96. Most C96's load from the top.]]

==Mle 1892 Revolver==
Anarchist Claude Ravache ([[Thierry Neuvic]]) shoots himself with a [[Mle 1892 Revolver]]. Watson later picks it up to confront the other anarchists. Watson still has this revolver, or another copy when he and Holmes infiltrate the Meinhard factory.
[[Image:Mle_1892.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Modele d’Ordonnance Mle 1892 Revolver]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Spoiler?]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson opens fire on the anarchists.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the revolver tucked in Watson's pants.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson with his revolver out while pinned down by Moran.]]

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Andrzej ([[Vladimir 'Furdo' Furdik]]) is armed with a [[Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873]] during the factory escape.
[[Image:Chamelot-Delvigne-Model-1873B.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Chamelot-Delvigne Mle. 1873 (blued) - 11mm. This example appears to have a broken trigger return spring and something wrong with the loading gate.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1873_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andrzej with his revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1873_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andrzej with his revolver, Watson with the custom SMG, and Holmes with a C96.]]

=Shotguns=
==Winchester Model 1887==
One of Moriarty's train hitmen tries to fire a [[Winchester Model 1887]] shotgun on Holmes and Watson, but sets himself on fire due to Holmes' sabotage.
[[File:PaulNewmanShotgunActual.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1887 Shotgun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins retreat when Holmes opens fire.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins with the Winchester 1887.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the markings on the barrel can be read, "12 GA, 22" 2 3/4"]]

=Rifles=
==Mauser Gewehr 1888==
[[Mauser Gewehr 1888|1888 Commission Rifles(Gewehr 88)]]s are used by the Meinhard guards and several men. Madam Simza, Holmes, Watson, and Moran use them during the factory escape.
[[Image:Gewehr1888_OE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Gewehr 1888 - 7.92x57mm Mauser. This sample was an issued rifle in the Ottoman Empire, updated in 1938. This is a movie armory weapon. The version in the movie is the original format and has a barrel jacket.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the twins (either Alexandre or Victor Carril) aims his Commission Rifle.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A factory guard aims his Gewehr 88 at the escaping team. Notice that the bolt is not fully closed. Since the rifle fired immediately afterwards anyway, it's probable that the film used CGI muzzle flashes.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes deflects a bayonet thrust.]]
[[Image:MG98b-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes ejects a spent round before disarming the user.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes then chambers a new round. The receiver is marked "SPANDAU 1890".]]
[[Image:MG98c-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Watson aiming a captured Mannlicher Gewehr 1888.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran aims his rifle at the escaping party.]]

==Customized Martini-Henry Sniper Rifle==
Col. Moran ([[Paul Anderson]]) uses a [[Martini-Henry Rifle Series|Customized Martini-Henry sniper rifle]] , which is fitting since he is an veteran of the Anglo-Afghan war. He's also described as the best shot in the army before his dismissal (which Watson erroneously refers to as a dishonorable discharge, which is only reserved for enlisted men.)
[[Image:Martinisporter.jpg|400px|thumb|none| Martini-Henry "Sporter" .577-.450 caliber modified by the famous London gunsmith J. Rigby]]
[[Image:GL-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The rifle in its case.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran begins to assemble the rifle.]]
[[Image:GLb-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moran adds a suppressor to the rifle.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran takes aim.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran loads a round.]]
[[Image:GLc-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moran fires the sniper rifle.]]

=Other=
==Maxim 1895==
Two of Moriarty's gunmen man a [[Maxim#Maxim 1895|Maxim 1895]] with brass water jacket, and spade grips in an attempt to kill Dr. and Mrs. Watson.
[[Image:Maxim1895.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Maxim Model 1895 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Maxim_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins reveal the Maxim.]]
[[Image:Maxim-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moriarty's gunman opens up on Holmes and Watson.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Maxim_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_spitzer_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Maxim's ammunition belt with Holmes' surprise. The use of spitzer rounds in 1891 is an anachronism.]]

==No. 2 Mk II Hale Grenade==
The assassins on the train are equipped with what appear to be modified No. 2 Mk II Hale Grenades. Holmes uses one to set a booby trap.
[[Image:SHGoS_grenade_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes' booby trap in place.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_grenade_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bag of grenades.]]

==Custom Submachine Gun==
The train assassins and later Watson use what appear to be steampunk inspired custom submachine guns. They load from the top, and appear to be only capable of being fired from the hip.
[[Image:SHGoS_SMG_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson fires the SMG during the factory escape.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SMG_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|There appears to be a handgrip on the left side of the gun.]]

==Gatling Gun==
Meinhard guards use [[Gatling Gun]]s fed from Broadwell drums.
[[File:Gatling gun 1865.jpg|thumb|400px|none|An 1865 Gatling Gun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Meinhard guards unveil the Gatling gun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the guards fits the Broadwell drum.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gatling Gun lays down fire on the escaping party. (Why the guards are using a Gatling gun when they have access to Maxim guns is unknown.)]]

==7.58 cm Minenwerfer==
Meinhard guards attack the escaping party with 7.58 cm Minenwerfers. This is yet another anachronism, as this weapon wasn't introduced until 1909.
[[Image:SHGoS_mortar_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Meinhard guard loads the mortar.]]
[[File:SH 2 gatling.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Trivia=
==.223 Shell Casing==
Colonel Moran is shown assembling a poison dart cartridge using a modern Winchester .223 shell casing.
[[Image:SHGoS_casing_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"WINCHESTER .223 REM"]]

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Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows

2013-03-13T06:51:40Z

King rhoton: /* Mauser C96 */

[[Image:AGOSposter.jpg|thumb|right|301px|''Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows'' (2011)]]

'''''Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows''''' is the 2011 sequel to 2009's ''Sherlock Holmes'' directed by [[Guy Ritchie]] and starring [[Robert Downey Jr.]], [[Jude Law]], [[Noomi Rapace]] and Jared Harris.

{{Film Title}}

__TOC__<br clear="all">

=Handguns=
== Webley Mk V ==
In the alleyway brawl, an attacker (uncredited) pulls a [[Webley Mk V]] on Sherlock Holmes ([[Robert Downey Jr.]]), but Holmes is able to take it away. Madam Simza Heron ([[Noomi Rapace]]) hands Holmes another one before he and Watson ([[Jude Law]]) infiltrate the Meinhard factory.
[[Image:Webley Mk. V.JPG|thumb|none|300px|.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The one-eyed attacker with his Webley.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Webley-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes unloads the revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes handing the now empty revolver back. Note the shape of the grips.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM5_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes with another Webley Mk V in the Heilbronn factory.]]

== Webley Bulldog==
Mary Watson ([[Kelly Reilly]]) pulls out Watson's [[Webley Bulldog]] on their honeymoon train. Dr. Watson later uses it to fend off the assassins.
[[File:WebleyBulldog.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Webley "British" Bulldog Revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mary finds her husband's revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mary holds the Bulldog on one of the assassins before her husband tosses him off of the train.]]
[[File:SH 2 bulldog.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Watson checks the hallway.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WB_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|That's... unfortunate.]]

==Webley No. 5==
Holmes fires upon the assassins with a what appears to be a [[Webley No.5]] revolver before handing it off to Watson.
[[File:0bd1cce5c59b8d2ac79a613bc71209e2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nickle-plated Webley No.5 with Adams type ejector.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_WM6_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes hands Watson his revolver.]]

== Sharps Model 1A Pepperbox ==
Sherlock Holmes ([[Robert Downey, Jr.]]) carries a [[Sharps Pepperbox|Sharps Model 1A Pepperbox]] pistol while dressed in drag on the train to Brighton, and Watson ([[Jude Law]]) uses it to disable one of Moriarty's henchmen manning the machine gun.
[[File:Sharps Model 1A.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Sharps Model 1A - .22 Short]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes checks the hallway with his drawn pepperbox.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson with the pepperbox as he and Holmes take cover.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SP_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson fires on the assassins with the pepperbox.]]

==Mauser C96==
Colonel Sebastian Moran ([[Paul Anderson]]) confronts Holmes with a [[Mauser C96]] in the Meinhard factory. Holmes later uses one during the shootout in the factory. The use of this gun in the movie is rather anachronistic as it's set in 1891 and the C96 was first produced in 1896. Furthermore, as Moran tosses Holmes a removable magazine for the C96, it must be a Schnellfeuer version of the C96, which wasn't commercially available until 1932. It is implied that the C96 design is a prototype developed by Moriarty's weapons designers for the impending war he desires to start. As Moran states that this model of C96 is fully-automatic
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mauser C96 "Broomhandle" - 7.63x25mm Mauser.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran boasts to Holmes about his brand new automatic pistol.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A box full of C96 pistols.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes picks up a C96.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_C96_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes shoots a soldier in the train shed during the escape.]]
[[Image:AGOS-C96.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes loads a magazine into his C96. Most C96's load from the top.]]

==Mle 1892 Revolver==
Anarchist Claude Ravache ([[Thierry Neuvic]]) shoots himself with a [[Mle 1892 Revolver]]. Watson later picks it up to confront the other anarchists. Watson still has this revolver, or another copy when he and Holmes infiltrate the Meinhard factory.
[[Image:Mle_1892.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Modele d’Ordonnance Mle 1892 Revolver]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Spoiler?]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson opens fire on the anarchists.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the revolver tucked in Watson's pants.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1892_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson with his revolver out while pinned down by Moran.]]

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Andrzej ([[Vladimir 'Furdo' Furdik]]) is armed with a [[Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873]] during the factory escape.
[[Image:Chamelot-Delvigne-Model-1873B.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Chamelot-Delvigne Mle. 1873 (blued) - 11mm. This example appears to have a broken trigger return spring and something wrong with the loading gate.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1873_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andrzej with his revolver.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_M1873_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andrzej with his revolver, Watson with the custom SMG, and Holmes with a C96.]]

=Shotguns=
==Winchester Model 1887==
One of Moriarty's train hitmen tries to fire a [[Winchester Model 1887]] shotgun on Holmes and Watson, but sets himself on fire due to Holmes' sabotage.
[[File:PaulNewmanShotgunActual.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1887 Shotgun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins retreat when Holmes opens fire.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins with the Winchester 1887.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_W1887_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the markings on the barrel can be read, "12 GA, 22" 2 3/4"]]

=Rifles=
==Mauser Gewehr 1888==
[[Mauser Gewehr 1888|1888 Commission Rifles(Gewehr 88)]]s are used by the Meinhard guards and several men. Madam Simza, Holmes, Watson, and Moran use them during the factory escape.
[[Image:Gewehr1888_OE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Gewehr 1888 - 7.92x57mm Mauser. This sample was an issued rifle in the Ottoman Empire, updated in 1938. This is a movie armory weapon. The version in the movie is the original format and has a barrel jacket.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the twins (either Alexandre or Victor Carril) aims his Commission Rifle.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A factory guard aims his Gewehr 88 at the escaping team. Notice that the bolt is not fully closed. Since the rifle fired immediately afterwards anyway, it's probable that the film used CGI muzzle flashes.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes deflects a bayonet thrust.]]
[[Image:MG98b-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Holmes ejects a spent round before disarming the user.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes then chambers a new round. The receiver is marked "SPANDAU 1890".]]
[[Image:MG98c-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Watson aiming a captured Mannlicher Gewehr 1888.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Mauser_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran aims his rifle at the escaping party.]]

==Customized Martini-Henry Sniper Rifle==
Col. Moran ([[Paul Anderson]]) uses a [[Martini-Henry Rifle Series|Customized Martini-Henry sniper rifle]] , which is fitting since he is an veteran of the Anglo-Afghan war. He's also described as the best shot in the army before his dismissal (which Watson erroneously refers to as a dishonorable discharge, which is only reserved for enlisted men.)
[[Image:Martinisporter.jpg|400px|thumb|none| Martini-Henry "Sporter" .577-.450 caliber modified by the famous London gunsmith J. Rigby]]
[[Image:GL-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The rifle in its case.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran begins to assemble the rifle.]]
[[Image:GLb-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moran adds a suppressor to the rifle.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran takes aim.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_sniper_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moran loads a round.]]
[[Image:GLc-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moran fires the sniper rifle.]]

=Other=
==Maxim 1895==
Two of Moriarty's gunmen man a [[Maxim#Maxim 1895|Maxim 1895]] with brass water jacket, and spade grips in an attempt to kill Dr. and Mrs. Watson.
[[Image:Maxim1895.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Maxim Model 1895 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Maxim_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassins reveal the Maxim.]]
[[Image:Maxim-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Moriarty's gunman opens up on Holmes and Watson.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Maxim_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SHGoS_spitzer_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Maxim's ammunition belt with Holmes' surprise. The use of spitzer rounds in 1891 is an anachronism.]]

==No. 2 Mk II Hale Grenade==
The assassins on the train are equipped with what appear to be modified No. 2 Mk II Hale Grenades. Holmes uses one to set a booby trap.
[[Image:SHGoS_grenade_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holmes' booby trap in place.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_grenade_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bag of grenades.]]

==Custom Submachine Gun==
The train assassins and later Watson use what appear to be steampunk inspired custom submachine guns. They load from the top, and appear to be only capable of being fired from the hip.
[[Image:SHGoS_SMG_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watson fires the SMG during the factory escape.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_SMG_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|There appears to be a handgrip on the left side of the gun.]]

==Gatling Gun==
Meinhard guards use [[Gatling Gun]]s fed from Broadwell drums.
[[File:Gatling gun 1865.jpg|thumb|400px|none|An 1865 Gatling Gun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Meinhard guards unveil the Gatling gun.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the guards fits the Broadwell drum.]]
[[Image:SHGoS_Gatling_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gatling Gun lays down fire on the escaping party. (Why the guards are using a Gatling gun when they have access to Maxim guns is unknown.)]]

==7.58 cm Minenwerfer==
Meinhard guards attack the escaping party with 7.58 cm Minenwerfers. This is yet another anachronism, as this weapon wasn't introduced until 1909.
[[Image:SHGoS_mortar_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Meinhard guard loads the mortar.]]
[[File:SH 2 gatling.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Trivia=
==.223 Shell Casing==
Colonel Moran is shown assembling a poison dart cartridge using a modern Winchester .223 shell casing.
[[Image:SHGoS_casing_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"WINCHESTER .223 REM"]]

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