Talk:Predator (1987)

2010-02-04T23:43:32Z

HnK416:

How's this page look now? This movie is one of my favorites and I need to do it justice. -GM

It looks great now. Thanks for getting rid of the pistols section and giving each pistol it's own section. Predator is a great movie, and now it has the page it deserves. What's next on your list?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Great work on the screen caps. I'm still one of those guys who doesn't like 'non firearms' or munitions on pages, but that's just me. For example, I'm still mystified WHY molotov cocktails are listed on any movie page. Since they're an improvised weapon, kinda like a brick or rock. IMHO. Was that MP5 another chopped MPM2008 image? or was it something off the net? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I just edited one of your pics to use for now. The reason I wouldn't consider a Molotov an improvised weapon is because it is more like an explosive, like a grenade really. Rocks and Bricks don't blow up, molotovs have a chemical reaction and burn things. And to me, if it blows up, it is allowed on here. -GM

== Manpack Mini-gun ==
From a Friend of Mine I have gotten a Quote from the Films Technical Advisor about the Hand-held Minigun.I'm going to integrate it into the page as it does go into the creation of the weapon as a man portible device. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

the Quote is:
"The Predator gun is an M-134. It was never a microgun (XM-214). That story has been rattling around the Internet and elsewhere for years, that the Predator gun was a 5.56, it wasn't. Ventura had a hand in putting together the harness that held the gun, after all, he had to carry and handle the darn thing, and told me a bunch about it. When Dan had the gun (past tense I believe) he contacted me to see if Ventura wanted to buy the weapon. I'm going to do a writeup on the XM-214 including pictures of me holding one. It isn't a big deal to pick the microgun up and hold it cradled in one arm. Maybe when people see just how small the 5.56mm gun is, this story will start going away. The pack in the movie held all of four seconds worth of ammo and no batteries. In the first scene when Ventura fires the gun, you can see the cable for it it the dirt behind him. And the trigger didn't work. The special effects man handled powering the gun for several reasons, including safety. Something about them not wanting the actors injured if the gun was dropped and the trigger pulled."
[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:46, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== As far as detonating 40mm grenades... ==

There are/were two sets of fuzes. The earlier ones armed in 3 to 5 meters (9 to 15 feet or so) and presented a hazard because of the casualty radius of the rounds. These rounds were primarily used with the M79 but will chamber and fire in the M203. The "later" rounds included a third arming mechanism which delayed arming until the round was 14-28 meters from the barrel.

== Minigun Fire Rate ==

I'd like to know the source of the "confirmed" fire rate of 1250 RPM. Reason being, I'm the guy that came up with the 1700-1800rpm figure which I figured out by counting the number of barrel rotations the weapon makes in a given time frame while the movie is playing in slow motion. There are several closeup shots on the weapon muzzle that make this possible. It should also be noted that in the special features Jesse fires the weapon with unedited sound and the weapon fires at such a rate that it is continuous sound, much like how a real Minigun sounds.

:That's interesting, since a movie camera only records at a rate of 24 frames per second and you're claiming the gun fired at 30 rounds per second, meaning it completed five rotations a second, and that you eyeballed it rotating once every 4.8 frames in 'slow motion.' Any rate of fire over 1,440 rpm would be wasting ammo for the hell of it, since at that speed you'd already be firing a shot every frame. With your prediction they would be literally throwing away 6 rounds a second. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 13:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
I got the rate of fire that I did by communicating with people who have acctually worked on said Minigun and that rate of Fire was stated back when Dan Shea was liquidating the Stenbridge gun collection. Plus have you ever heard a HK-21E rip off a belt at 1,100RPM? I have and it sounds very close to the unedited Predator Minigun sound. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 03:25, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I could be wrong, but that's what I observed. I just wanted to know where the confirmed fire rate came from.

I found this article online where a Dillon Aero rep briefly discusses the Predator gun:

http://www.defensereview.com/dillon-aero-m134d-and-m134d-t-gatling-guns-peace-through-firepower-superiority/

It supports the 1250 RPM claim or thereabouts.

== Billy's Mosberg 500 - " While never seen firing the shotgun in the film... " ==

Hello

I beg to differ. At 27:00 ~ 27:01 while Billy is seen standing onscreen in the upper far right shooting downward at fleeing enemy personell
you can see that he has expended all 5.56mm ammo and is switching to the 500. His movement is sublte but you can see him shift the weapon
to grasp the lower of the rifle to use it as a make shift grip for the 500. He manages to get off one round before the next cut to Dutch who is
seen shooting some additional personell. Thoughts?

== Poncho pistol ==

I don't see this movie for a long time but I remember that Poncho carrie a sig P220 or P226. I'm not sure but I think that extract it when the prisoner tried to escape. Can anyone confirm? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:I remember wrong. These are the evidence. [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
[[Image:Poncho1.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:Poncho2.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

:That's definitely another Desert Eagle. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Predators Wristblades ==

Why don't they have their own section on the page? there are dozens of pages with sections about knives that were in the movie, and I think that the Wristblades should have one as well.

Talk:Fallout 3

2010-02-04T00:37:39Z

HnK416:

== Blackhawk ==

- Though it's a special gun in game, the "Blackhawk" looks exactly the same as the regular Scoped .44 Magnum, not like a Ruger Blackhawk.

:I agree. The blackhawk is just a Model 29 and not a Ruger Blackhawk.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

==Lincoln's Repeater==

::Wasn't it the SPENCER rifle that was presented to Lincoln, NOT the Henry rifle?
::''On August 18, 1863, Christopher Spencer walked into the White House carrying one of his rifles and a supply of cartridges. He walked past the sentries, and into Abraham Lincoln's office. After some discussion, he returned the following afternoon, when Spencer and Lincoln were joined by Edwin Stanton, Secretary of War and other officials, and the group then proceeded to walk out on the Mall. Near the site of the Washington Monument, they engaged in target shooting. Subsequent to that meeting, the U.S ordered some 13,171 rifles and carbines, along with some 58 million rounds of ammunition (source: Wikipedia)''

:Today, they make replicas fire whatever they want. Uberti makes a .44 Magnum Henry. (Henry now makes a .44 Magnum "Big Boy", but that is a completely new gun) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Fallout3lr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

::Oh YEAH...it WAS a Spencer. I really hate myself now. I just watched a history channel special about it and I forgot which gun it was... This is embarrassing...[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:Don't hate yourself, he ''was'' presented a Henry at some point. The gun seen in For a Few Dollars More is replica model of that gun. They even sell a modern replica today. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Hey guys i went to the smithsonian american history museum and Lincoln did own a Henry like in game but without foregrip.--[[User:Panther61DC08|Panther61DC08]] 03:15, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

::Lincoln lived to see 1960, eh?

== Pictures ==
I have gotten permission to use pictures of the fallout 3, 1, and 2 weapons from a Fallout wikipedia, so I will be helping to add to this page and the others soon. Just a heads up. [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
==Deathlands==
:If ya'll like Fallout 3, I recommend you try reading James Axler's Deathland series. The two have almost the same setting, but Deathlands is more serious-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::More serious? Do you mean more gritty, violent, realistic and depressing?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Hells yeah. In the series there is no such thing as a recurring protaganist- if a character isn't one of the main characters, they die horrible bloody deaths. Also, Deathlands is all about the guns. When someone is described, so is their weapon-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Like Threads?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:17, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:I dunno-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:08, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Unscoped revolver ==

There IS an attainable version of the unscoped S&W Model 29. It's from the Motthership Zeta expansion, carried by a guy named Paulsen

== 10mm SMG ==

Is it me, or it looks more like UMP-9 than MP5K?
--[[Special:Contributions/194.11.24.40|194.11.24.40]] 23:00, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

== R91 Assault Rifle ==

It has some G3 qualities to it, but am I the only one who thinks it looks like a early model FAL? The handguard, stock, and magazine looks FAL-like to me. It could just be that I want most guns to be a FAL.

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