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Talk:Battle of Warsaw 1920

2012-06-16T05:06:38Z

Harleyguy: /* Model 17 Stielhandgranate */

== Several questions ==
=== Model 17 Stielhandgranate ===
Are you sure that it is Model 17? It seems to me that this is [[Model 17 Stielhandgranate|Model 24]], as in every other movie with German grenades. I doubt that a real Model 17 could survive until 2011.
Yes, O. K. But aim is perhaps to inform the viewer what weapons the his heroes to used in historical reality. I write about it here - [[All Quiet on the Western Front (1979)]]--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 00:28, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
:I cannot agree. If we see Browning Hi-Power in 1920 we say that this is anachronistically used Hi-Power and don't say that this is a Model 1903, right? So if a Model 24 grenade is used, we say that a Model 24 is used in the movie though it stands for Model 17. I think so. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 02:20, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

In the Browning Hi-Power to see at a glance, so I can blame. Otherwise, the presumption of innocence applies everywhere, right? Accuse the filmmakers of anachronism by blurred shot? It was there that I can write it straight, it's not a grenade, but the sand full dummy :)--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 02:52, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

So what are we saying here? That a gun that didn't come into production for another 15 years is in the movie representing...what, a Colt Model 1903 Hammer? I wonder why the film maker did not just use a Colt 1911, or a Luger, or a C-96 Mauser? Those guns are all readily available and fit the 1920 time period. This smacks of laziness on the film maker's part. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 22:05, 15 June 2012

:A Model 17 doesn't need to survive. It's very easy to make custom props.[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 00:51, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
::Of course. But I doubt that any movie maker would make such props when there are plenty dummy Model 24s. And the grenade on the screenshot looks more like Model 24. But I don't insist if you are completely sure that this is Model 17. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 02:20, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
::It's very difficult to tell with the blurry photo, but it does seem to have a thinner head than a 24. But since 24s seem to have varying head sizes, I don't think there's really any way to properly tell unless we can find a screencap showing the little lever-like handle on the side of the head. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:08, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

=== One more MG ===
I have found in Internet a screenshot from the movie:
[[File:Battle of Warsaw light MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
This light MG is most likely based on Czech [[UK vz. 59|Vz. 59]] which is disguised as [[Maxim#Maxim_MG08/15|MG08/15]].

I think that it is definitely a Czech Vz. 59. Also if there are no objections as I mentioned earlier I have been trying to clear up the spelling and grammar on the page and will continue to do so.
--[[User:6pulkpancerna|6pulkpancerna]] 18:51, 13 May 2012 (CDT)

Thx very much for this!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 06:15, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

=== BA-27 ===
The armored car which is "playing the role" of Soviet BA-27 (which, in turn, didn't exist in 1920) is a modern replica of Polish Vz.34.

I am just trying to fix a lot of the spelling mistakes on this page.
: - [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:44, 13 May 2012 (CDT)

Thx for all repair.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 06:20, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

=== Unidentified MG ===

[[File:BW-Pol-MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
It will help someone identify what kind of light machine gun?
:[[Chauchat]]. The barrel looks a little long so it could be a modern replica. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 03:56, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

And it's not by chance the model [[UK vz. 59|Vz. 59]]?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 06:02, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
: It's hard to say for sure - too far and too blurry. If this is disguised Vz.59 too (as with 08/15 and the aircraft MG) then the disguise is very good. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 06:49, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

=== The problem with identifying a rifles ===

After regaining independence, the Polish Army were armed with Mosin1891, Mannlicher M1895 and Mauser M1898. Along with the "Blue Army" soldiers French rifles appeared ( Berthier and Lebel ). But also Lee Enfield and Japanese Arisaka! Especially those last two I can not distinguish between them, so it is possible that the hero has not in his hand Enfield, but that is a Japanese rifle :)

[[File:Arisakat38.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Arisaka rifle]]

[[File:Borys_Szyc-rifle-detail.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Arisaka rifle]]

:Arisaka rifles were purchased in Japan by Russian army in 1914-15. In 1917-18 when the old Russian army collapsed, its weapon including Arisaka rifles came in hands of the armies of Poland, Finland and other new states. So Arisaka in this movie is historically correct. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 06:47, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

Thx very much, Greg! --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 07:21, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

:Interesting, but I don't think that is an Arisaka. The front sight is too large and too close to the front of the barrel, the stock end cap is too long, and it has a guide for the cleaning rod under the barrel which the Arisaka doesn't. Looks more like a Mauser of some sort. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 08:34, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
:: [http://mauser98k.internetdsl.pl/wz29/15.jpg Polish Mauser wz.29]? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 09:12, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
:::The front sight is similar (if not the same), but I think the rifles here look like they are full size, rather than the wz. 29 which is a carbine. Also note that the rifle in the film has the top of the barrel exposed forward of the barrel band (metal loop that goes around the middle of the handguard) unlike the wz. 29 which is covered. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:59, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
[[File:Szyc-rifle1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:Szyc-rifle2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:Borys_Szyc-rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

That's right, there are inconsistencies and for this i sent more pictures of this rifle. And what's the loop on the of the other rifles? It's like the Enfield.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 11:20, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

Other adepts to Rifle of Jan Krynicki:

[[File:M1917enfield.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Enfield rifle]]
[[File:GewehrModel1891.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mauser 98 rifle]]
[[File:Gewehr1888 OE.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mannlicher rifle]]

That's a M91 Mauser, not a M98. The rifles in question are 98 actions, probably Persian 98/29 (long rifle) and Czech vz.24 (short rifle) based on the prominent BRNO front sight protector's "ears". They are certainly NOT M1917s or Arisaka 38s.--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] 20:30, 20 May 2012 (CDT)

[[File:Czech_Persian_Mauser_98-29.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] Here is and thanks for identifikation. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]]

01:02, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Wild Bill

2011-08-10T05:01:39Z

Harleyguy: /* Remington 1866 Derringer */

'''The following firearms were used in the film ''Wild Bill'':'''
[[Image:Wb-dvd.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Wild Bill'' (1995)]]__TOC__ 

== Colt 1851 Navy (Richards-Mason) ==
James Butler "Wild Bill" Hickok ([[Jeff Bridges]]) carries, as the real Wild Bill did, two [[Colt 1851 Navy#Colt 1851 Navy (Richards-Mason Conversion)|Colt 1851 Navy]] revolvers, sometimes using a red sash around his waist in lieu of a holster. However, the Colt Navys used in the film are the Richards-Mason cartridge-converted models, which would be anachronistic to the earlier scenes of Wild Bill firing his revolvers in the 1860s (However, the two Navys he fires during the Deadwood shootout, retrieved for him by Jane, aren't cartridge-converted). Several other characters, notably Jack McCall ([[David Arquette]]), Phil Coe ([[Dennis Hayden]]), and Ed Plummer ([[John Dennis Johnston]]) all have cartridge-converted Navy revolvers.
[[Image:Colt1851cartridge.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1851 Navy with Richards-Mason cartridge conversion - .38 Long Colt.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wild Bill draws his Colt Navys when he is assaulted by a group of soldiers in Hays, Kansas during his time as city marshal in 1870.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wild Bill with his revolvers during his time with Buffalo Bill Cody's ([[Keith Carradine]]) "Wild West Show" in 1875.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wild Bill checks his Colt Navy when Will Plummer calls him out.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The man who draws on Calamity Jane in Deadwood has a Colt Navy, which Bill takes from him and knocks him out with.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wild Bill holds up the man's Colt Navy as his own two revolvers stick out from his belt.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During a flashback to 1861, a McCanles Gang member fires at Wild Bill with a Colt Navy.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall surprises Wild Bill and Calamity Jane during a moment of intimacy in Nuttall & Mann's No. 10 saloon.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall holds his Colt Navy on Wild Bill and Calamity Jane.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall unloads his Colt Navy before handing it to Wild Bill.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wild Bill holds McCall's unloaded Colt Navy to his own head.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Calamity Jane retrieves Wild Bill's two engraved Colt Navys after McCall and his assassins leave.]]
[[Image:Wb-cnav12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wild Bill kills Donnie and the others, firing at least 26 shots from his two six-round Colt Navy revolvers.]]

== Winchester Model 1866 "Yellow Boy" ==
An Indian encountered by Wild Bill while buffalo-hunting in the 1860s has a [[Winchester Model 1866 "Yellow Boy"]]. Will Plummer ([[Bruce Dern]]) also has one in a flashback to Wild Bill's duel with Ed Plummer.
[[Image:Winchester66.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" - .44 RF.]]
[[Image:Wb-win66a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Indian with his Yellow Boy.]]
[[Image:Wb-win66b.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Indian rides towards Wild Bill, Winchester in hand.]]
[[Image:Wb-win66c.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Will Plummer aims his Winchester '66 at Wild Bill after the latter kills Ed Plummer.]]
[[Image:Wb-win66d.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Will Plummer falls, his Yellow Boy falling out of his hand.]]

== double-barreled shotgun ==
Will Plummer ([[Bruce Dern]]) carries a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|side-by-side double-barreled shotgun]] when he calls Wild Bill out in Kansas City.
[[Image:Wb-shotgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Will Plummer calls Wild Bill out to fight him.]]
[[Image:Wb-shotgun2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Will Plummer fires his shotgun when Wild Bill takes his time exiting the bar.]]

== Single Action Army ==
Calamity Jane ([[Ellen Barkin]]) keeps a nickel Quickdraw [[Single Action Army]] as her primary sidearm, best seen when Wild Bill first arrives in Deadwood in August 1876. Will Plummer ([[Bruce Dern]]) also uses an SAA, an Artillery Model, during his duel with Wild Bill in Kansas City.
[[Image:ColtSAA475barrel.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Colt Single Action Army]] w/ 4.75" barrel, referred to as "Quick-Draw" or "Civilian" model. ]]
[[Image:Wb-saa1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Will Plummer fires his SAA during his duel with Wild Bill.]]
[[Image:Wb-saa2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Calamity Jane fires her SAA into the air upon Wild Bill's arrival in Deadwood.]]
[[Image:Wb-saa3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A drunk whorehouse patron ([[John Richard Petersen]]) fires his Cavalry SAA at a prostitute's feet to get her to dance.]]
[[Image:Wb-saa4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the men with McCall and Donnie holds his Artillery SAA on Wild Bill and Calamity Jane.]]

== Remington 1866 Derringer ==
Lurline Newcomb ([[Christina Applegate]]) keeps a [[Remington 1866 Derringer]] which she gives to Jack McCall ([[David Arquette]]) who ties it up his sleeve and uses to assassinate Wild Bill inside Nuttall & Mann's No. 10 (even though the real McCall had used a double-action .45 revolver, although this film makes ''many'' historical errors for the sake of its storytelling). ''What .45 double action revolver existed in 1876? Colt didn't come out with theirs for another two years. You're right about the film being wildly historically inaccurate though.''
[[Image:Remington1866Type4.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. Caliber. Polished Steel with yellow pearl grips]]
[[Image:Wb-derr1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lurline draws her derringer on the drunk whorehouse patron.]]
[[Image:Wb-derr2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall ties the derringer to his arm.]]

== Colt 1860 Army ==
During the flashback to Wild Bill's shootout with the McCanles Gang in 1860, one of the gang has a [[Colt 1860 Army]].
[[Image:1860Army.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1860 Army .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:Wb-c60a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A McCanles Gang member crashes through the door with a Colt Army in his hand.]]

== unidentified derringer ==
Wild Bill Hickok ([[Jeff Bridges]]) keeps a derringer in his left vest pocket, which Jack McCall ([[David Arquette]]) knows and takes from him.
[[Image:Wb-pistol2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wild Bill with his derringer inside the opium den.]]
[[Image:Wb-pistol3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall holds Wild Bill's derringer on Calamity Jane.]]
[[Image:Wb-pistol4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall holds Wild Bill's derringer on Calamity Jane.]]
[[Image:Wb-pistol5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall holds Wild Bill's derringer on Wild Bill himself before giving it back later.]]

== Remington 1875 ==
Donnie Lonigan ([[James Remar]]) and one of his men carry [[Remington 1875]] revolvers.
[[Image:Rem1875.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Remington 1875 - .45 Long Colt.]]
[[Image:Wb-rem75a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McCall and Donnie hold their revolvers on Calamity Jane and Wild Bill.]]
[[Image:Wb-rem75b.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Donnie's men with his Remington '75.]]
[[Image:Wb-rem75c.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Donnie with his Remington drawn.]]
[[Image:Wb-rem75d.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Donnie threatens Wild Bill when McCall is unable to shoot.]]

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Talk:The Long Riders

2011-08-10T04:38:05Z

Harleyguy:

There are several weapons left out of this great movie, gentlemen, so thought I'd mention. There was the ubiquitous 1873 Winchester, a cut down double barrel shotgun that a cousin of the Younger brothers, also named Younger, uses when he and Bob Younger (Keith Carridine) are accosted in the woods by two Pinkertons and is killed and also kills one of the Pinkertons. Cole Younger (David Carridine) is shown in a scene early in the movie, when Jesse is wounded and Ed Miller is expelled from gang, sitting on a horse next to his brother Jim (Robert Carradine) holding a single barrel shotgun.

There was also the ubiquitous Model 1866 and 1873 Winchesters. I don't think my old Dell 8250 has a screen capture feature. Alas I only have The Longriders on VHS at present.--[[User:harleyguy|harleyguy]] 02:43, 3 February 2010

You need to start screencapping when you get your DVD's ouf storage.And of course make your own page so we know who you are. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:43, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

== Dragoon? ==

Based on that screen-capture alone, I'm not entirely convinced that's a Dragoon. It looks too small in his hand. Not sure it's an 1851 Navy either, though. Would need some more screen-shots to be sure. -- Blokhed 3/30/11

Keith Carradine is clearly holding a Dragoon based on the hook holding the loading lever up under the barrel. The Walker did not have this feature and it's way too big a gun to be a 1851 Navy. [[Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 21:37, 9 August 2011

Talk:The Missing (2003)

2011-07-28T02:08:21Z

Harleyguy:

Since the setting of the movie is 1885, wouldn't that be the Sharps Model 1874 Carbine that the soldiers have rather than the percussion Model 1863? [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 04:58 21 April 2010

I would have thought that standard Army issue (until the Krag-Jorgensen was adopted in the 1890s) would have been some variant of the Trapdoor Springfield. I understand that private purchase was an option in the Army at some points, I did not know that the Sharps was standard issue in the nineteenth century outside of a unit like Berdan's Sharpshooters. Perhaps someone can lead me out of my fog of ignorance? --[[User:Ruzhyo|Ruzhyo]] 19:47, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I was in error in my original post. Have since learned that there were only 456 of the Model 1874 Carbines made but over 32,000 of the Model 1863 were converted to .50-70 Goverment centerfire cartridges. I stand corrected. However, I would like to point out that Maggie carried a cut down double barreled shotgun as well, with what looks to be a 20" barrel. It's a rabbit-ear hammer model, possible a Colt 1878, she has it on her saddle in a front, right side scabbard, and is seen drawing it when she comes upon the carnage of her boyfriend having been roasted alive in a cow skin, her hired hand shot dead with arrows and stripped naked, and then finds her youngest daughter Dot wandering in a daze. Also at least one of the Indians in the "brujo's" gang is using a Model 1873 Winchester. --[[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 19:06, 27 July 2011

Talk:The Missing (2003)

2011-07-28T02:04:18Z

Harleyguy:

Since the setting of the movie is 1885, wouldn't that be the Sharps Model 1874 Carbine that the soldiers have rather than the percussion Model 1863? [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 04:58 21 April 2010

I would have thought that standard Army issue (until the Krag-Jorgensen was adopted in the 1890s) would have been some variant of the Trapdoor Springfield. I understand that private purchase was an option in the Army at some points, I did not know that the Sharps was standard issue in the nineteenth century outside of a unit like Berdan's Sharpshooters. Perhaps someone can lead me out of my fog of ignorance? --[[User:Ruzhyo|Ruzhyo]] 19:47, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I was in error in my original post. Have since learned that there were only 456 of the Model 1874 Carbines made but over 32,000 of the Model 1863 were converted to .50-70 Goverment centerfire cartridges. I stand corrected. However, I would like to point out that Maggie carried a cut down double barreled shotgun as well, with what looks to be a 20" barrel. It's a rabbit-ear hammer model, possible a Colt 1878, she has it on her saddle in a front, right side mount, and is seen drawing it when she comes upon the carnage of her boyfriend having been roasted alive in a cow skin, her hired hand shot dead with arrows and stripped naked, and then finds her youngest daughter Dot wandering in a daze.

Talk:The Searchers

2011-07-16T17:55:15Z

Harleyguy: Created page with "I have this movie on VHS and was just watching it on AMC channel. Never could figure out what type of rifle "Ol' Mose Harper" (Hank Worden) carried, just couldn't get a good enou..."

I have this movie on VHS and was just watching it on AMC channel. Never could figure out what type of rifle "Ol' Mose Harper" (Hank Worden) carried, just couldn't get a good enough look at it. That's him in the pic that is captioned regarding Commanche warriors.

Talk:Let's Get Harry

2010-09-01T01:04:07Z

Harleyguy: New page: Gary Busey uses a Smith & Wesson 5906 or a something very similar looking, and the drug dealer chief uses a Colt Python if I remember correctly. Been a long time since I've seen this movie...

Gary Busey uses a Smith & Wesson 5906 or a something very similar looking, and the drug dealer chief uses a Colt Python if I remember correctly. Been a long time since I've seen this movie, but it's a very cool and well done movie IMO. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 31 August 2010 19:11

Talk:The Maltese Falcon (1941)

2010-09-01T00:59:29Z

Harleyguy: New page: Too bad there isn't a page for the orginal 1931 version. It has a Colt 1908 (or is it a 1903?) Colt Hammerless, and what looks to be a FN Model 1900. Plus there are better looking women an...

Too bad there isn't a page for the orginal 1931 version. It has a Colt 1908 (or is it a 1903?) Colt Hammerless, and what looks to be a FN Model 1900. Plus there are better looking women and it's a better movie than the 1941 version. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 31 August 2010 19:06

Talk:Kel-Tec SUB-2000

2010-08-12T01:02:17Z

Harleyguy: New page: This gun was also used on the TV sci-fi show First Wave. The alien Gua that helped the humans, named Joshua, sometimes carried one of these. Harleyguy 11 August 2010 19:...

This gun was also used on the TV sci-fi show First Wave. The alien Gua that helped the humans, named Joshua, sometimes carried one of these. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 11 August 2010 19:09

Talk:The Wild Bunch

2010-08-03T23:04:04Z

Harleyguy:

== Missing Gun ==

There's a gun missing in this page. A single barrel shotgun appears in the movie at the beginnig.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I added it. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 01:18, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

There's another gun missing as well. When the Wild Bunch rides into the small village after crossing into Mexico to change clothes and horses, and the Gortch brothers start saying Sykes doesn't deserve a full share, Sykes draws a Sharps rifle from a scabbard and cocks the hammer back while quietly moving into position to fire. He is also carrying the big Sharps when he is shot in the leg by Strother Martin's character and rides to safety in the rocks.

The Luger P.08 is shown with the prostitute who shoots Pike in the back, but one is also briefly seen held by the senior German officer ("Commander Frederich Mohr of the Imperial German Army" as he identified himself when Angel kills his ex-finace, but Commander is a navy rank) that Pike shoots after the brief pause when he and Dutch kill Mapache. The Luger flies out of his hand when he starts to fall after being shot by Pike's M1911 (or apparently Star Model B!). One other point if you don't mind, the guy identified as a "Mexican officer" trying to fire the M1917 machine gun in one photo is really the junior German officer, in German uniform, that Tector shoots with his Model 92 and then Lyle finishes off, if I remember correctly, with his shotgun.

Thanks for this site guys, I love it!!

== Sykes rifle ==

After the meet up with Freddie Sykes (Edmund O'Brien) after the opening robbery, Sykes is shown carrying a Sharps Model 1874/77 rifle, also towards the end when he is shot in the leg by Strother Martin's Springfield .30-06. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 3 August 17:10

Talk:Colt 1871-72 Open Top

2010-08-03T19:42:23Z

Harleyguy:

The Colt Open Top was also chambered in .44 Colt caliber, an outside lubricated bullet. The 1860 Colt Army cartridge conversion was chambered for the .44 Colt as well. Some Remington Model 1875 revolvers were also initially chambered in this cartridge. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 3 August 2010 13:38

Talk:Colt 1871-72 Open Top

2010-08-03T19:31:24Z

Harleyguy:

The Colt Open Top was also chambered in .44 Colt caliber, an outside lubricated bullet. The 1860 Colt Army cartridge conversion was chambered for the .44 Colt as well, which Rafe Covington uses at the beginning of the movie Crossfire Trail (taking it from the ship captain's cabin). Some Remington Model 1875 revolvers were also initially chambered in this cartridge. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 3 August 2010 13:38

Talk:Colt 1871-72 Open Top

2010-08-03T19:30:46Z

Harleyguy: New page: The Colt Open Top was also chambered in .44 Colt caliber, an outside lubricated bullet. The 1860 Colt Army cartridge conversion was chambered for the .44 Colt as well, which Rafe Covington...

Sharps Rifle

2010-07-30T22:56:34Z

Harleyguy: /* Film */

'''Variants of the ''Sharps Rifle'' have been used in the following films:'''

==Sharps 1859 Carbine==
[[Image:Sharps 1859.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Sharps 1859 Carbine - .52 caliber.]]
===Television===
* Cavalry re-enactors in ''[[Mail Call]]''
* ''[[Weaponology]]''
 
==Sharps 1863 Carbine==
[[Image:Sharps 1863 carbine.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Sharps 1863 Carbine - .52 caliber.]]
===Film===
* Sioux Indians and Union soldiers in ''[[Dances With Wolves]]''
===Television===
* ''[[Weaponology]]''
 
==Sharps 1865 Saddle Ring Carbine==
[[Image:Sharps1865saddleringcarbine.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Sharps 1865 Saddle Ring Carbine - .52 caliber.]]
 
==Sharps 1869 Carbine==
[[Image:Rifle-SharpsCarbine-2.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Sharps 1869 Carbine - .52 caliber.]]
 

===Television===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[The Three Stooges]]'' || [[Curly Howard]] || Curly Howard || none || 1940
|-
|}

 

==Sharps 1874==
[[Image:Sharps1874.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Sharps 1874 - .45-70.]]
===Film===
* [[Tom Sizemore]] as Bat Masterson in ''[[Wyatt Earp]]''

* [[Clint Eastwood]] as Blondie (The Man With No Name) in ''[[The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly]]''

* [[Kris Kristofferson]] as Noble Adams in the 1988 HBO made movie ''[[The Tracker]]''

* [[Michael Moriarty]] as Hal Barret in ''[[Pale Rider]]''

 

==Sharps 1874 Buffalo==
[[Image:Sharps1874.gif|thumb|400px|right|Sharps 1874 - .45-70. caliber]]
===Film===
* [[Brent Roam]] as Juan in ''[[Tremors 4: The Legend Begins]]'' (2004)

 

==Sharps 1874 Long Range==
[[Image:UbertiSharps1874longrange.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Sharps 1874 Long Range rifle w/ 34" barrel, Vernier peep sight, and Lyman Beach front sight - .45-70.]]
===Film===
* [[Tom Selleck]] as Matthew Quigley in ''[[Quigley Down Under]]''

* [[Kevin Costner]] as Wyatt Earp in ''[[Wyatt Earp]]''

* Unknown actor in ''[[Lonesome Dove]]''

===Animation===
* Charles Muntz in ''[[Up]]''

===Videogames===
* [[Thomas Jane]] as Colton White in ''[[Gun]]''

* ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]''
 

==Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine==
[[Image:Sharps1874cavalarycarbine.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine - .45-70.]]
===Film===
* [[Glen Campbell]] as La Boeuf in ''[[True Grit]]''

* [[Bill Pullman]] as Ed Masterson in ''[[Wyatt Earp]]''

* [[Kiefer Sutherland]] as Josiah Gordon "Doc" Scurlock in ''[[Young Guns]]''

* [[Frederic Forrest]] as Blue Duck in ''[[Lonesome Dove]]''

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Battle Rifle]]

Winchester Model 1866 "Yellow Boy"

2010-07-30T22:36:47Z

Harleyguy:

'''The ''Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"'' has been used in the following films:'''
[[Image:Winchester66.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Carbine - .44 RF.]]
[[Image:Yellowboy.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Carbine - .44/40.]]

===Film===

* [[Clint Eastwood]] as Blondie (The Man With No Name) in ''[[The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly]]'' (mocked up to look like [[Henry 1860]])

* [[Michael Jeter]] as Percy and some other extras in ''[[Open Range]]''

* [[Jeff Corey]] as Tom Cheney in ''[[True Grit]]'' (mocked up to look like [[Henry 1860]])

*[[various Apaches]] in ''[[The Missing]]'', the band of Apaches that kidnapped the young girls and headed to Mexico are using the Winchester 1866, both in Carbine and Rifle versions.

* [[Viggo Mortensen]] as Everett Hitch in ''[[Appaloosa]]

* ''[[Crossfire Trail]]''

* ''[[Did You Hear About the Morgans?]]''

* ''[[Patrick Kilpatrich]] as The Ute in [[The Quick and The Dead (1987)]]''

===Videogames===

*[[Thomas Jane]] as Colton White in ''[[Gun]]''

*''[[Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood]]''

*''[[Timesplitters 2]]'' (as the "vintage rifle")

===Television===

* An episode of ''[[Home and Away]]''

===Anime===

===Animation===

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Battle Rifle]]

Winchester Model 1866 "Yellow Boy"

2010-07-30T22:36:32Z

Harleyguy:

'''The ''Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"'' has been used in the following films:'''
[[Image:Winchester66.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Carbine - .44 RF.]]
[[Image:Yellowboy.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Carbine - .44/40.]]

===Film===

* [[Clint Eastwood]] as Blondie (The Man With No Name) in ''[[The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly]]'' (mocked up to look like [[Henry 1860]])

* [[Michael Jeter]] as Percy and some other extras in ''[[Open Range]]''

* [[Jeff Corey]] as Tom Cheney in ''[[True Grit]]'' (mocked up to look like [[Henry 1860]])

*[[various Apaches]] in ''[[The Missing]]'', the band of Apaches that kidnapped the young girls and headed to Mexico are using the Winchester 1866, both in Carbine and Rifle versions.

* [[Viggo Mortensen]] as Everett Hitch in ''[[Appaloosa]]

* ''[[Crossfire Trail]]''

* ''[[Did You Hear About the Morgans?]]''

* ''[[Patrick Kilpatrich]] as The Ute in [[The Quick and The Dead (1987]]''

===Videogames===

*[[Thomas Jane]] as Colton White in ''[[Gun]]''

*''[[Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood]]''

*''[[Timesplitters 2]]'' (as the "vintage rifle")

===Television===

* An episode of ''[[Home and Away]]''

===Anime===

===Animation===

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Battle Rifle]]

Talk:First Blood

2010-07-30T22:32:17Z

Harleyguy:

I am pretty sure the weapon used by Brian Dennehy's character (the Sheriff) was an HK 33 or 93 given the curved nature of the magazine on the weapon.

:Yes, you are correct...HK93.

==Widescreen==
I'm sorry this page has widescreen pics but I made this page before I knew to crop out the black bars. It is a real pain to crop out the bars by resaving and uploading them. I ought to know, I did it for the [[Quigley Down Under]] page. -GM
:Thanks for fixing the widescreen bars AQ11, I was acutally going to do this just after I did TRK for MT2008 but you beat me to it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Rambo's M16 ==

Where does Rambo get his M16? First he's laying in the Rocks watching the National Guardsmen go by, then he's got one slung over his back when he finds the civilian out hunting.

- Probably stole one from one of Teasle's deputies when he ambushed them. I thought he did have it slung when he came out of the water (but just hard to see). If not, him not having it on his back in one shot and having it in another is probably just continuity error. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Title ==

Isn't the title of the movie just "First Blood?" That's how it's listed in IMDB. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 12:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC) 
Yes it is, but I think it's called Rambo: First Blood internationally.

:That may be true, but aren't we supposed to go by however it is in IMDb? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 04:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

If you type [[First Blood]] in the search box, you'll be redirected to this movie page. The title is explained in the summary on the actual movie page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Alternate Ending==

Anyone who's read David Morrell's novel "First Blood" knows of the changes in this movie from the novel. The alternate ending is not far off from the ending of the novel, where Trautman kills a wounded Rambo who also has a broken rib from a cliff fall into a tree; although Trautman's shot is from a shotgun a few feet away and blows John Rambo's head off. But virtually everything else has been changed or reversed; the location, characters living and dying, personalities. Trautman is asked at the end of the novel how he feels about killing his friend, and he replies "better than knowing he was suffering".

They apparently wanted to make the movie into a statement for Vietnam Vets as well as try to create a franchise, because in the book not only does John Rambo die at the end, so does Sheriff Teasel who was shot similtaneously by Rambo. And not only do both of them die, but Rambo kills all the deputies, the dog handler, and all the dogs and severely wounds one of the town's people who comes out with a gun. The location is changed from Kentucky to Washington State, so the scene in the book where Rambo meets a moonshiner and his son who gives him shoes, clothes and a .30-30 Winchester is gone (because in Rambo's escape from the jail basement and the sadistic cop he eventually shoots out of the helicopter, spraying blood and brains on the pilot and freaking him out so much he crashes at the low level in the canyon he's flying). In the novel, Rambo guts a deputy in the basement after beating the snot out of the sadistic one. His only crime is being an apparent "vagrant" in the Kentucky town and trying to get something to eat, and not liking being run out of town before he gets it. The only survivor in the woods is Sheriff Teasel who survives by crawling on hands and knees through thick sticker bushes, and who, as written by David Morrell, is not the arrogant, violence prone red-neck that Brian Dennehy portrays him as, but is a decent guy who is a Korean War veteran (the book was published in 1972), who's father was killed mistakenly in a hunting accident and the dog handler had become a surrogate father to him as a child. Rambo is not the "I don't want to kill anyone so don't make me do it" guy of the film, he is a hardened Special Forces operative who suffered terribly for a short time as a POW, and a flashback to that due to the brutality inflicted on him in the jail basement is what sets him off. He kills without emotion, without remorse; screw with him and you die--sometimes quicky and somtimes painfully, but you die. Also in the movie, along with the Model 94 Winchester the moonshiner gives him, Rambo is carrying a Colt Python that he recovers off the deputy's body that he shot from the helicopter door; and Sheriff Teasel is not armed with a Model 66 but with a Browning Hi-Power, which he shoots Rambo with at the end of the book as Rambo shoots him with the .357 Magnum. He dies seconds after Rambo, watching Trautman's ejected shotgun shell twirl through the air and hit the ground. There's almost a metaphysical bond that develops, where Teasel can get inside Rambo's head and "see what he's thinking" in anticipating his moves. [[User: Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 30 July 2010 16:38

Talk:First Blood

2010-07-30T22:28:45Z

Harleyguy:

I am pretty sure the weapon used by Brian Dennehy's character (the Sheriff) was an HK 33 or 93 given the curved nature of the magazine on the weapon.

:Yes, you are correct...HK93.

==Widescreen==
I'm sorry this page has widescreen pics but I made this page before I knew to crop out the black bars. It is a real pain to crop out the bars by resaving and uploading them. I ought to know, I did it for the [[Quigley Down Under]] page. -GM
:Thanks for fixing the widescreen bars AQ11, I was acutally going to do this just after I did TRK for MT2008 but you beat me to it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Rambo's M16 ==

Where does Rambo get his M16? First he's laying in the Rocks watching the National Guardsmen go by, then he's got one slung over his back when he finds the civilian out hunting.

- Probably stole one from one of Teasle's deputies when he ambushed them. I thought he did have it slung when he came out of the water (but just hard to see). If not, him not having it on his back in one shot and having it in another is probably just continuity error. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Title ==

Isn't the title of the movie just "First Blood?" That's how it's listed in IMDB. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 12:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC) 
Yes it is, but I think it's called Rambo: First Blood internationally.

:That may be true, but aren't we supposed to go by however it is in IMDb? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 04:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

If you type [[First Blood]] in the search box, you'll be redirected to this movie page. The title is explained in the summary on the actual movie page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Alternate Ending==

Anyone who's read David Morrill's novel "Rambo" knows of the changes in this movie from the novel. The alternate ending is not far off from the ending of the novel, where Trautman kills a wounded Rambo who also has a broken rib from a cliff fall into a tree; although Trautman's shot is from a shotgun a few feet away and blows John Rambo's head off. But virtually everything else has been changed or reversed; the location, characters living and dying, personalities. Trautman is asked at the end of the novel how he feels about killing his friend, and he replies "better than knowing he was suffering".

They apparently wanted to make the movie into a statement for Vietnam Vets as well as try to create a franchise, because in the book not only does John Rambo die at the end, so does Sheriff Teasel who was shot similtaneously by Rambo. And not only do both of them die, but Rambo kills all the deputies, the dog handler, and all the dogs and severely wounds one of the town's people who comes out with a gun. The location is changed from Kentucky to Washington State, so the scene in the book where Rambo meets a moonshiner and his son who gives him shoes, clothes and a .30-30 Winchester is gone (because in Rambo's escape from the jail basement and the sadistic cop he eventually shoots out of the helicopter, spraying blood and brains on the pilot and freaking him out so much he crashes at the low level in the canyon he's flying). In the novel, Rambo guts a deputy in the basement after beating the snot out of the sadistic one. His only crime is being an apparent "vagrant" in the Kentucky town and trying to get something to eat, and not liking being run out of town before he gets it. The only survivor in the woods is Sheriff Teasel who survives by crawling on hands and knees through thick sticker bushes, and who, as written by David Morrill, is not the arrogant, violence prone red-neck that Brian Dennehy portrays him as, but is a decent guy who is a Korean War veteran, who's father was killed mistakenly in a hunting accident and the dog handler had become a surrogate father to him as a child. Rambo is not the "I don't want to kill anyone so don't make me do it" guy of the film, he is a hardened Special Forces operative who suffered terribly for a short time as a POW, and a flashback to that due to the brutality inflicted on him in the jail basement is what sets him off. He kills without emotion, without remorse; screw with him and you die--sometimes quicky and somtimes painfully, but you die. Also in the movie, along with the Model 94 Winchester the moonshiner gives him, Rambo is carrying a Colt Python that he recovers off the deputy's body that he shot from the helicopter door; and Sheriff Teasel is not armed with a Model 66 but with a Browning Hi-Power, which he shoots Rambo with at the end of the book as Rambo shoots him with the .357 Magnum. He dies seconds after Rambo, watching Trautman's ejected shotgun shell twirl through the air and hit the ground. There's almost a metaphysical bond that develops, where Teasel can get inside Rambo's head and "see what he's thinking" in anticipating his moves.

Talk:Romancing the Stone

2010-07-16T21:28:49Z

Harleyguy:

Except for the closeup when Jack T. Colton (Michael Douglas) pushes the safety off on the shotgun, the receiver on the gun he is using looks like an Ithaca Model 37, as the photo of him taking cover shows there is no ejection port on the right side as the Model 870 has, although the forestock and vented rib on top looks like the 870. There is also a double action revolver that Colonel Zolo uses when he confronts Joan Wilder (Theresa Russell) and shoots at Jack Colton after the bus crash, a stainless DA revolver that Danny DeVito uses to temporarily steal the emerald from Colton and Wilder. [[User:harleyguy|harleyguy]] 22:21 16 March 2010

It's a Remington 870 made for left handers with the ejection port on the other side. You can see that in the third screenshot. Also, it's Kathleen Turner.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I finally saw that a few weeks back watching the movie on one of the Encore channels. When Colton and Joan Wilder are walking through the village to the "bellmaker's" house after spending the night in the aircraft fusalage I saw the left side ejection port very briefly. Yep, Kathleen Turner. She and Theresa Russell look a lot a like to me. My error. [[User:harleyguy|harleyguy]] 15:29 16 July 2010
==Added Guns==
===Zolo's Revolver===
[[Image:romancing1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:romancing2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
S&W Model 19. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Romancing the Stone

2010-07-16T21:22:38Z

Harleyguy:

Except for the closeup when Jack T. Colton (Michael Douglas) pushes the safety off on the shotgun, the receiver on the gun he is using looks like an Ithaca Model 37, as the photo of him taking cover shows there is no ejection port on the right side as the Model 870 has, although the forestock and vented rib on top looks like the 870. There is also a double action revolver that Colonel Zolo uses when he confronts Joan Wilder (Theresa Russell) and shoots at Jack Colton after the bus crash, a stainless DA revolver that Danny DeVito uses to temporarily steal the emerald from Colton and Wilder. [[User:harleyguy|harleyguy]] 22:21 16 March 2010

It's a Remington 870 made for left handers with the ejection port on the other side. You can see that in the third screenshot. Also, it's Kathleen Turner.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I finally saw that a few weeks back watching the movie on one of the Encore channels. When Colton and Joan Wilder are walking through the village to the "bellmaker's" house after spending the night in the aircraft fusalage I saw the left side ejection port very briefly. [[User:harleyguy|harleyguy]] 15:29 16 July 2010
==Added Guns==
===Zolo's Revolver===
[[Image:romancing1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:romancing2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
S&W Model 19. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Smith & Wesson Model 3

2010-06-21T20:05:22Z

Harleyguy:

Gregory Peck carried what appeared to be (from rate of fire) a double action S&W Model 3 (which I guess would make it the Frontier model?) in the 1974 movie "Billy Two Hats". [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 21 June 2010 14:09

Talk:Smith & Wesson Model 3

2010-06-21T20:03:21Z

Harleyguy: New page: Gregory Peck carried a double action S&W Model 3 (which I guess would make it the Frontier model?) in the 1974 movie "Billy Two Hats". James Keach (as Jesse James) also used a Model 3 in T...

Gregory Peck carried a double action S&W Model 3 (which I guess would make it the Frontier model?) in the 1974 movie "Billy Two Hats". James Keach (as Jesse James) also used a Model 3 in The Long Riders. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 21 June 2010 14:09

Talk:Rough Riders

2010-06-21T20:01:44Z

Harleyguy:

You're quite correct that Roosevelt carried a Colt DA raised from the Maine, presented to him by his brother-in-law W.S. Cowles. My understanding is that Roosevelt did own a nickel plated Colt SAA with ivory grips embossed with the the large TR on them, so it's not completely out of whack to have him shown with it in Cuba; even though he didn't carry it there. But there are several historical inaccuracies in the film (and it's a great movie) such as showing William Tiffany being shot dead on Kettle Hill when in reality he died from Yellow Fever on Long Island after the regiment was moved out of Cuba, the fictional presence of German military advisors (there were none), the presence of Maxim machine guns on the San Juan Heights (the Spanish army had them but they were not deployed on the San Juan Heights). Also, while I enjoyed Gary Busey's portrayal of Joe Wheeler, he needed to get down to his "Buddy Holly" weight to accurately portray Wheeler, who was a slight physical figure, but a great cavalry leader. Also Frederick Funston was not in Cuba at this time and did not participate in the war there, he'd been in Cuba with the revolutionaries in 1896 but contracted malaria and his weight dropped to about 95 pounds, the Cubans granted leave and he returned to the U.S. Funston was commissioned as a colonel in the 20th Kansas Infantry, U.S. Army, a month after war was declared and landed in the Philippines and fought there during the "Insurrection". He was not in Cuba during the war. [[harleyguy]]

==Screencaps coming==
This movie is the next one on my list that I intend to do screencaps for. It does have some historical inaccuracies, but it's true to the spirit of the time in my opinion. Plus Milius uses historical accuracy for style. He's good at that. See The Wind and the Lion. Which I'm sure you have already. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:29, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

==Screencaps HAve Arrived==
Okay so this wasn't the ''very next'' page I screecapped, but I was close. Of course I have to now caption the photos and add more info, but at least I finally got the screencaps completed. Whew. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:14, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

==On the set pics==
I have some great on the set pics of this mini-series shoot, but I can't find them! Yes, I'm already kicking myself. When I find them I'll post them. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Those would be great. Looking forward to them. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

==Fun Fact==
:I have been to the Menger Hotel bar, where President Roosevelt recruited many of the Rough Riders-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Joe Kidd

2010-05-28T19:11:24Z

Harleyguy: /* Ross Model 10 */

Long Mountain Outfitters has a picture of the C96 used in the film, but I can't find it on there anymore. If someone knows were to find it, please help me out. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I'll take a look, it might be in their directory. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

The site looks good. Glad somebody finally got around to this movie. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== Smith & Wesson ==

Definately not a Schofield, it's a New Model No.3. I uploaded a picture of the thing for another movie, once I find the bloody thing I'll add it.

=== Ross Model 10 ===

This rifle, while a cool and all too rare addition to a movie, is anachronistic to the film. There is a picture of William McKinley in the sheriff's office, so I must presume the setting of the movie is from 1899 to pre-September 1901, since Robert Duval's character is using a Savage Model 99. [[user:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 28 May 2010 13:17

Talk:Joe Kidd

2010-05-28T19:10:26Z

Harleyguy:

LeMat Revolver

2010-05-28T18:54:24Z

Harleyguy: /* Film */

'''The ''LeMat 1861'' revolver has been seen in the following films:'''
[[Image:Lemat.jpg|thumb|right|500px|LeMat 1861 current reproduction - .36 or .44 caliber.]]

==Info==
The LeMat percussion revolver was invented by a French gunsmith and first issued in 1861. The gun was famed for its 9 shot capacity and an under barrel 16 or 18 gauge shotgun, and was favored by Confederate soldiers during the civil war. Production ceased mainly in 1865 but the gun was still made in limited quantities for quite a long time. Today, some companies make reproduction models.

== Specifications ==
*Weight: 3.1 lb (1.41 kg), unloaded
*Length: 13.25in. (356 mm)
*Caliber: .42 Ball (.44 repro) or .36 ball, 16ga Shot
*Action: Single Action revolver
*Rate of fire: 9 rounds/minute
*Muzzle velocity: 620 ft/s (190 m/s)
*Effective range: 40 yd
*Maximum range: 100 yd
*Feed system: 9-round cylinder, single-shot smoothbore secondary barrel
*Sights: fixed front post and rear notch

===Film===

* A quickdraw contestant in ''[[The Quick and the Dead]]''

* Seen in a guncase in ''[[The Punisher (2004)]]''

* [[Jude Law]] as Inman in ''[[Cold Mountain]]'' (in novel too)

* Seen in ''[[Twelve Monkeys]]'': given to James Cole/Bruce Willis in airport (end of the film).

* Carried by Buford Coker, former South Carolina infantryman, on cattle drive in 1868 in both tv movie and novel of [[Centennial]].

===Television===

* Fired by [[R. Lee Ermey]] in an episode of ''[[Mail Call]]''

* Seen in the Short-lived TV Show ''[[Firefly]]'', modified to look more futuristic

* A 1959–1960 CBS television show, "[[Johnny Ringo]]" aired for one season (38 episodes). Ringo was played by Don Durant and carried a LeMat revolver

===Video Games===

* ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]''

* ''[[Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood]]'' (Unable to use the shotgun barrel)

[[Category:Gun]]

[[Category:Revolver]]

LeMat Revolver

2010-05-28T18:53:17Z

Harleyguy: /* Film */

'''The ''LeMat 1861'' revolver has been seen in the following films:'''
[[Image:Lemat.jpg|thumb|right|500px|LeMat 1861 current reproduction - .36 or .44 caliber.]]

==Info==
The LeMat percussion revolver was invented by a French gunsmith and first issued in 1861. The gun was famed for its 9 shot capacity and an under barrel 16 or 18 gauge shotgun, and was favored by Confederate soldiers during the civil war. Production ceased mainly in 1865 but the gun was still made in limited quantities for quite a long time. Today, some companies make reproduction models.

== Specifications ==
*Weight: 3.1 lb (1.41 kg), unloaded
*Length: 13.25in. (356 mm)
*Caliber: .42 Ball (.44 repro) or .36 ball, 16ga Shot
*Action: Single Action revolver
*Rate of fire: 9 rounds/minute
*Muzzle velocity: 620 ft/s (190 m/s)
*Effective range: 40 yd
*Maximum range: 100 yd
*Feed system: 9-round cylinder, single-shot smoothbore secondary barrel
*Sights: fixed front post and rear notch

===Film===

* A quickdraw contestant in ''[[The Quick and the Dead]]''

* Seen in a guncase in ''[[The Punisher (2004)]]''

* [[Jude Law]] as Inman in ''[[Cold Mountain]]'' (in novel too)

* Seen in ''[[Twelve Monkeys]]'': given to James Cole/Bruce Willis in airport (end of the film).

* Carried by Buford Coker, former South Carolina infantryman, on cattle drive in 1868 in both tv movie and novel of Centennial.

===Television===

* Fired by [[R. Lee Ermey]] in an episode of ''[[Mail Call]]''

* Seen in the Short-lived TV Show ''[[Firefly]]'', modified to look more futuristic

* A 1959–1960 CBS television show, "[[Johnny Ringo]]" aired for one season (38 episodes). Ringo was played by Don Durant and carried a LeMat revolver

===Video Games===

* ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]''

* ''[[Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood]]'' (Unable to use the shotgun barrel)

[[Category:Gun]]

[[Category:Revolver]]

LeMat Revolver

2010-05-28T18:52:48Z

Harleyguy:

'''The ''LeMat 1861'' revolver has been seen in the following films:'''
[[Image:Lemat.jpg|thumb|right|500px|LeMat 1861 current reproduction - .36 or .44 caliber.]]

==Info==
The LeMat percussion revolver was invented by a French gunsmith and first issued in 1861. The gun was famed for its 9 shot capacity and an under barrel 16 or 18 gauge shotgun, and was favored by Confederate soldiers during the civil war. Production ceased mainly in 1865 but the gun was still made in limited quantities for quite a long time. Today, some companies make reproduction models.

== Specifications ==
*Weight: 3.1 lb (1.41 kg), unloaded
*Length: 13.25in. (356 mm)
*Caliber: .42 Ball (.44 repro) or .36 ball, 16ga Shot
*Action: Single Action revolver
*Rate of fire: 9 rounds/minute
*Muzzle velocity: 620 ft/s (190 m/s)
*Effective range: 40 yd
*Maximum range: 100 yd
*Feed system: 9-round cylinder, single-shot smoothbore secondary barrel
*Sights: fixed front post and rear notch

===Film===

* A quickdraw contestant in ''[[The Quick and the Dead]]''

* Seen in a guncase in ''[[The Punisher (2004)]]''

* [[Jude Law]] as Inman in ''[[Cold Mountain]]'' (in novel too)

* Seen in ''[[Twelve Monkeys]]'': given to James Cole/Bruce Willis in airport (end of the film).

* Carried by Buford Coker, former South Carolina infantryman, on cattle drive in 1868 in both movie and novel of Centennial.

===Television===

* Fired by [[R. Lee Ermey]] in an episode of ''[[Mail Call]]''

* Seen in the Short-lived TV Show ''[[Firefly]]'', modified to look more futuristic

* A 1959–1960 CBS television show, "[[Johnny Ringo]]" aired for one season (38 episodes). Ringo was played by Don Durant and carried a LeMat revolver

===Video Games===

* ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]''

* ''[[Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood]]'' (Unable to use the shotgun barrel)

[[Category:Gun]]

[[Category:Revolver]]

Talk:The Land That Time Forgot

2010-05-28T18:26:08Z

Harleyguy:

==Various Guns==

===Rifles===
Used both by the German crew of the submarine and also the British sailors.
[[Image:land1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bowen Tyler ([[Doug McClure]]) wields a rifle against a dinosaur attacking the submarine.]]
[[Image:land2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Reverse angle of Bowen giving the dino a taste of hot lead. Also note how the shoulder strap has suddenly vanished.]]
[[Image:land9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Captain Von Schoenvorts ([[John McEnery]]) goes hunting for styracosaurs with his rifle.]]

===Sub Gun===

This large gun is mounted on the German submarine and is used at one point to blow a couple of styracosaurs (who in truth were just minding their own business) to kingdom come.

[[Image:land12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|British and German sailors operate the gun to defend the submarine from the ornery herbivores. All the way onshore.]]

=== redundant photos ===

All but the deck gun pic are on the main page. As far as the MP-18, the setting of this movie is 1916 or the first 3 months of 1917 as America is still "neutral". Use of the MP-18 would be anachronistic. It's also unlikely the sub would have the long barreled 'artillery' version of the P.08 rather than the 6" navy version.

Talk:The Land That Time Forgot

2010-05-28T18:24:55Z

Harleyguy:

Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA

2010-05-17T21:47:12Z

Harleyguy: /* Films */

==Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA series of Pistol and Carbines==
[[Image:Claridge_HiTech_S9.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol - 9mm]]
[[Image:ClaridgeHiTec9mmTR.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol with cooling fin muzzle extension (used in the movie Total Recall) - 9mm]]
[[Image:GonczGA-9.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Goncz GA-9 Long Barrel pistol - 9mm]]
[[Image:GonczGA-9Side.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Goncz GA-9 - target version of Goncz GS-9 - 9mm]]
The Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA has a controversial history, primarily due to the feud between the designer Lajos John Goncz and his own Goncz Armament, Inc. of North Hollywood, CA and the subsequent manufacturers of the gun, Joe and Gail Claridge of Claridge Hi-Tec, Inc. in Northridge, CA. Goncz designed the original pistol and rifle carbine versions of the firearm between 1984 and 1990. Claridge took over production and made some slight manufacturing changes (changes that Goncz did not agree with) and produced more firearms in the years between 1990 and 1994, when they were forced to close shop due to legal problems with Goncz. Despite their feud, both versions of the firearms are finely machined pistols with some heft and finish. The versions of the guns are nearly identical outwardly except for the manufacturer's name on the sides. There are several versions of the Goncz/Claridge pistol - a short barreled standard version, a slightly longer barrel '''match''' version and the 16" barrel '''carbine''' with slight variations within each subcategory - including a choice between a deep blued finish and a satin steel finish.

'''The Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA can be seen in the following:'''

==Films==

* [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Douglas Quaid and [[Rachel Ticotin]] in ''[[Total Recall]]'' (Goncz GA-9)

* A Space Marine and the Leprechaun in ''[[Leprechaun 4: In Space]]'' - (Goncz GA-9)

* Various Gang members in ''[[The Intruder]]'' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Antonio Banderas]] in ''[[Assassins]]'' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Captain Leo Davidson in ''[[Planet of the Apes (2001)]]'' (Goncz GA-9)

* Mexican Military units in ''[[Once Upon a Time in Mexico]]'' ' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Don Cheadle]] as War Machine in ''[[Iron Man 2]]''

* Several "Skins" badguys in ''[[Neon City]]'' (Goncz GA-9)

==Television==

* A standard Goncz GA-9 pistol and a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin muzzle extension were used as Pulse Pistols on ''[[seaQuest DSV]]'' in the episode "And Everything Nice", and a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin was carried by Section 7 officer Colonel Manheim ([[Marc Macaulay]]).

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA

2010-05-17T21:46:30Z

Harleyguy: /* Films */

==Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA series of Pistol and Carbines==
[[Image:Claridge_HiTech_S9.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol - 9mm]]
[[Image:ClaridgeHiTec9mmTR.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol with cooling fin muzzle extension (used in the movie Total Recall) - 9mm]]
[[Image:GonczGA-9.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Goncz GA-9 Long Barrel pistol - 9mm]]
[[Image:GonczGA-9Side.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Goncz GA-9 - target version of Goncz GS-9 - 9mm]]
The Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA has a controversial history, primarily due to the feud between the designer Lajos John Goncz and his own Goncz Armament, Inc. of North Hollywood, CA and the subsequent manufacturers of the gun, Joe and Gail Claridge of Claridge Hi-Tec, Inc. in Northridge, CA. Goncz designed the original pistol and rifle carbine versions of the firearm between 1984 and 1990. Claridge took over production and made some slight manufacturing changes (changes that Goncz did not agree with) and produced more firearms in the years between 1990 and 1994, when they were forced to close shop due to legal problems with Goncz. Despite their feud, both versions of the firearms are finely machined pistols with some heft and finish. The versions of the guns are nearly identical outwardly except for the manufacturer's name on the sides. There are several versions of the Goncz/Claridge pistol - a short barreled standard version, a slightly longer barrel '''match''' version and the 16" barrel '''carbine''' with slight variations within each subcategory - including a choice between a deep blued finish and a satin steel finish.

'''The Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA can be seen in the following:'''

==Films==

* [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Douglas Quaid and [[Rachel Ticotin]] in ''[[Total Recall]]'' (Goncz GA-9)

* A Space Marine and the Leprechaun in ''[[Leprechaun 4: In Space]]'' - (Goncz GA-9)

* Various Gang members in ''[[The Intruder]]'' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Antonio Banderas]] in ''[[Assassins]]'' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Captain Leo Davidson in ''[[Planet of the Apes (2001)]]'' (Goncz GA-9)

* Mexican Military units in ''[[Once Upon a Time in Mexico]]'' ' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Don Cheadle]] as War Machine in ''[[Iron Man 2]]''

* Several "Skins" badguys in ''[[Neon City]]''

==Television==

* A standard Goncz GA-9 pistol and a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin muzzle extension were used as Pulse Pistols on ''[[seaQuest DSV]]'' in the episode "And Everything Nice", and a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin was carried by Section 7 officer Colonel Manheim ([[Marc Macaulay]]).

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Talk:The Wind and the Lion

2010-05-11T11:31:33Z

Harleyguy: /* Screencaps */

== Screencaps ==

The screencaps look great. Thanks for adding those to the page. Excellent work.This has been one of my favorite movies for years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I second that. A trivia note I found interesting, that Brian Keith played Theodore Roosevelt in this movie, and in another John Milius tv movie, Rough Riders, played Roosevelt's predecessor William McKinley. I believe that was Keith's last role, as he died not long afterward and you can see he's ill in that movie. A fine actor, Brian Keith was. [[User:Harley|Harleyguy]] 11 May 2010 04:32

Talk:The Wind and the Lion

2010-05-11T11:28:50Z

Harleyguy: /* Screencaps */

Talk:Colt 1851 Navy

2010-05-11T10:56:13Z

Harleyguy: New page: The gun is listed twice for Clint Eastwood in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. He just used the cartridge conversion model (which hadn't been invented at the time)as did everyone else in th...

The gun is listed twice for Clint Eastwood in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. He just used the cartridge conversion model (which hadn't been invented at the time)as did everyone else in the film. If I remember correctly Lee Van Cleef carried a Remington New Army. He had a cartridge belt on it but in the closeups of the final shootout at the graveyard you can see percussion caps on cylinder. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 11 May 2010 03:57

Hombre

2010-05-11T10:38:18Z

Harleyguy: /* Colt Single Action Army */

'''Hombre''' is a classic 1967 Western starring Paul Newman.

== Colt Single Action Army ==
used by various characters in the film.

== Winchester 1873 ==
John Russell (Paul Newman) carries a Winchester 1873 with a shortened magazine.
what was the revolver russell had it was a double action

== Winchester 1892 ==
Carried by members of Cicero's gang.

Russel's rifle was not the Winchester 92, it had a loading tube from the butt of the stock. I don't know what it was but I would love to know.

== Unknown Revolver ==
When Cicero's gang robs the stagecoach, they find an unknown snub-nosed revolver on Dr. Favor (Fredric March).

== Coach Shotgun ==
Henry Mendez (Martin Balsam) carries a double barreled coach shotgun in the film.

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Western Movie]]

Hombre

2010-05-11T10:05:57Z

Harleyguy: /* Colt Single Action Army */

'''Hombre''' is a classic 1967 Western starring Paul Newman.

== Colt Single Action Army ==
[[Image:ColtSAA475barrel.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 4.75" barrel, case colored and blued, referred to as "Quick-Draw" or "Civilian" model. ]]

used by various characters in the film.

== Winchester 1873 ==
John Russell (Paul Newman) carries a Winchester 1873 with a shortened magazine.
what was the revolver russell had it was a double action

== Winchester 1892 ==
Carried by members of Cicero's gang.

Russel's rifle was not the Winchester 92, it had a loading tube from the butt of the stock. I don't know what it was but I would love to know.

== Unknown Revolver ==
When Cicero's gang robs the stagecoach, they find an unknown snub-nosed revolver on Dr. Favor (Fredric March).

== Coach Shotgun ==
Henry Mendez (Martin Balsam) carries a double barreled coach shotgun in the film.

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Western Movie]]

Talk:The Professionals (1966)

2010-05-07T23:37:25Z

Harleyguy:

There's no way to edit "Catagory", but this should be in the Westerns section, should it not?

I'll be damned. I've seen this movie many, many times (and own the DVD) but never once noticed a Model 1887 shotgun. Always thought Lancaster was using a Model 1892 carbine because I thought that was what he was loading when Raza's men came riding up through that canyon. Thanks for pointing that out. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 7 May 2010 16:38

Remington Rolling Block

2010-05-07T09:48:43Z

Harleyguy:

'''The Remington Rolling Block rifle has appeared in the following film used by the following actors:'''
[[Image:Remingtonrollingblock.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Remington Rolling Block Militarized - .45 caliber]]
[[Image:RemingtonRBLOCK.gif|thumb|450px|right|Remington No. 1 Rolling Block - ..22 rimfire]]

===Movies===

* ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'' on the racks in Auther Webley's storage

* Mahdist guards and [[Djimon Hounsou]] as Abou Fatma in ''[[The Four Feathers]]''

* An Arcadia 234 inhabitant in ''[[Soldier]]''

* [[Anthony Hopkins]] as Colonel Ludlow and [[Gordon Tootoosis]] as One Stab in ''[[Legends of the Fall]]''

* ''[[Tremors 4: The Legend Begins]]''

* Mexican Guerillas and [[Clint Eastwood]] as Hogan in ''[[Two Mules for Sister Sara]]''

* seen in a weapons case in ''[[Goldeneye]]''

* [[Gary Cole]] as George Armstrong Custer in ''[[Son of the Morning Star]]''

===Video Games===

* John Marsten in ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]''

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Battle Rifle]]

Remington Rolling Block

2010-05-07T09:47:18Z

Harleyguy:

'''The Remington Rolling Block rifle has appeared in the following film used by the following actors:'''
[[Image:Remingtonrollingblock.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Remington Rolling Block Militarized - .45 caliber]]
[[Image:RemingtonRBLOCK.gif|thumb|450px|right|Remington No. 1 Rolling Block - ..22 rimfire]]

===Movies===

* ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'' on the racks in Auther Webley's storage

* Mahdist guards and [[Djimon Hounsou]] as Abou Fatma in ''[[The Four Feathers]]''

* An Arcadia 234 inhabitant in ''[[Soldier]]''

* [[Anthony Hopkins]] as Colonel Ludlow and [[Gordon Tootoosis]] as One Stab in ''[[Legends of the Fall]]''

* ''[[Tremors 4: The Legend Begins]]''

* Mexican Guerillas and [[Clint Eastwood]] as Hogan in ''[[Two Mules for Sister Sara]]''

* seen in a weapons case in ''[[Goldeneye]]''

* Gary Cole as George Armstrong Custer in ''[[Son of the Morning Star]]''

===Video Games===

* John Marsten in ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]''

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Battle Rifle]]

Talk:The Mummy (1999)

2010-05-07T09:36:31Z

Harleyguy: New page: == Trivia Note == Oded Fehr's character's name is Ardeth Bay, an anagram of "Death By Ra". Harleyguy 7 May 2010 02:37

== Trivia Note ==

Oded Fehr's character's name is Ardeth Bay, an anagram of "Death By Ra". [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 7 May 2010 02:37

Winchester Model 1886

2010-05-07T09:29:31Z

Harleyguy:

Winchester Model 1886

2010-05-07T09:29:10Z

Harleyguy:

Talk:Martini-Henry Rifle Series

2010-05-07T09:15:21Z

Harleyguy: /* The Hunting Party */

== The Hunting Party ==

In the movie The Hunting Party (a western from 1971) starring Gene Hackman, Oliver Reed and Candace Bergen, Hackman has four sporterized versions of the Martini-Henry, each with a telescopic sight. Hackman claims to his friends on a train/whorehouse that they can shoot accurately to 800 yards, and they use them to hunt down that band of bandits that have kidnapped Hackman's wife, played by Bergen, and the leader of the band she falls in love with is Oliver Reed. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 7 May 2010 02:16

Talk:Martini-Henry Rifle Series

2010-05-07T09:14:44Z

Harleyguy: New page: == The Hunting Party == In the movie The Hunting Party (a western from 1971) starring Gene Hackman, Oliver Reed and Candace Bergen, Hackman has four sporterized versions of the Martini-He...

Talk:The Beast of War

2010-05-07T08:47:29Z

Harleyguy:

==I'm doing more screencaps of this film==
MoviePropmaster2008

:Very nice work MPM, the page came out great. The screencaps on here before were pretty low res but I love when you cover Israeli made film because you know so much about the guns (and vehicles). Great job! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== "The use of a Browning M2 is curious, since Israeli Armorers have easy access to real DShK guns they have captured from the Arab armies over the years." ==

Obvious counterpoint to this: they may have the guns, but I imagine unless they captured an Arab army film studio they probably don't have huge amounts of movie-safe 12.7x109mm ammo for the DshKs; similarly, there's the issue of familiarity with the M2, spare parts availability, etc. If it was going to be used a lot, I can't see them being able to justify the cost of using a real DshK over a mockup to the producers, especially when they were already faking the helo and had the wrong gun on the T-55. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 04:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::Not really. Stallone was using a REAL DSHk with real blanks in Rambo III when they were filming in Israel. The attack on the Muj Camp and Stallone firing at the helicopters from the hilltop was ALL the real deal. Making blanks is no big deal for any country with an established motion picture industry. it's just a matter of convenience, which is why we see so many Combloc weapons in movies filmed in Eastern European countries, even when (in the movie) they're supposed to be in the "U.S.". The Israelis have access to tons of Arab arms already, ever since the first serious Arab Israeli war of 1948, and the one in 1956 and the one in 1967 and 1973. ;) There was NO really good reason, unless they didn't have DSHks blank adapted (which would be weird) or they had a lot of leftover .50 cal blanks (which the U.S. gave them as military aid). The Military training blanks work pretty well and I noticed that these guns in the film didn't have the super giant fireball that MOVIE blanks usually do (See StarShip troopers for super fireball 50 cal blanks). MPM

== RGD-1 ==

There is no such thing as Soviet `RGD-1` hand grenade. Actually it is an `F-1` hand grenade, in service from World War 2 era. It was still in Soviet Army service during Afghan war, as well in Russian Army service during wars in Chechnya.
::Sorry, back in the 1980s when a lot of our information was sketchy about Russo weapons (and there was no internet) we always called them RGD-1s. As information becomes more accurate, and people today forget we didn't have internet communications with people in Russia (plus there was previous few books on Soviet weaponry). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:33, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

== T-55 or T-62 ==

You guys would know better than I do, I only raise the question because I came across a link saying it's a T-62. But it's from Wikipedia, so I guess consider the source. I only raise the question so it can be answered here. This is the link:

"The Beast is a movie released in 1988 about the crew of a Soviet T-62 tank and their attempts to escape a hostile region, set during the invasion of Afghanistan in 1981."

It's in the Media and Popular Culture section of this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan_in_popular_culture [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 7 May 2010 01:48

Talk:Death Hunt

2010-05-07T05:22:39Z

Harleyguy:

==screencaps==
Nobody has this on DVD? This page needs some screencaps! --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 07:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I only have it on VHS to date. Just watched it on Fox Movie Channel, and noticed that some of the actors are carrying Winchest Model 1873's. Constable Alvin Adams (Andrew Stevens) carries one when he shoots a deer with Sgt Edgar Millen (Lee Marvin) and Sundog (Carl Weathers), and is carrying one at the shootout at Albert Johnson's (Charles Bronson) cabin. So is the man who gets his arm caught in a bear trap outside Johnson's cabin. Johnson also has a single shot shotgun that he cuts the barrel off down to the forestock (which he points at Millen when he opens the window), and a single shot bolt action rifle that he cuts the buttstock off of. He shoots the one-eyed "Charlie" who rushes the cabin and kicks in the door, only to be shot dead by Johnson who's lying entrenched on the floor with these two guns. One of Hazel's (Ed Lauter) pals uses a SxS shotgun to shoot at Johnson when he opens the cabin window to talk to Millen, and is shot dead by Johnson with the Colt Peacemaker. There's a continuity error in the film also, the scenes where Millen is opening his trunk and taking out weapons such as his Colt New Service revolver and 12 gauge Winchester pump shotgun, and has a leather shotgun shell belt over his shoulder when talking to Angie Dickinson before going out the door, are all when he's leaving to lead the posse of psycho trappers and his three Mounties to Johnson's cabin. But they have it inserted in the film to look like it's after the shootout when they're leaving to pursue Johnson. As much as I like this movie, I sure wish someone would make a movie based on the facts of The Mad Trapper of Rat River. The books on this guy are a fascinating story. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 6 May 2010 22:10

Talk:Death Hunt

2010-05-07T05:16:34Z

Harleyguy: /* screencaps */

==screencaps==
Nobody has this on DVD? This page needs some screencaps! --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 07:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I only have it on VHS to date. Just watched it on Fox Movie Channel, and noticed that some of the actors are carrying Winchest Model 1873's. Constable Alvin Adams (Andrew Stevens) carries one when he shoots a deer with Sgt Edgar Millen (Lee Marvin) and Sundog (Carl Weathers), and is carrying one at the shootout at Albert Johnson's (Charles Bronson)cabin. So is the man who gets his arm caught in a bear trap outside Johnson's cabin. Johnson also has a single shot shotgun that he cuts the barrel off down to the forestock (which he points at Millen when he opens the window), and a single shot bolt action rifle that he cuts the buttstock off of. He shoots the one-eyed "Charlie" who rushes the cabin and kicks in the door, only to be shot dead by Johnson who's lying entrenched on the floor with these two guns. There's a continuity error in the film also, the scenes where Millen is opening his trunk and taking out weapons such as his Colt New Service revolver and 12 gauge Winchester pump shotgun, and has a leather shotgun shell belt over his shoulder when talking to Angie Dickinson before going out the door, are all when he's leaving to lead the posse of psycho trappers and his three Mounties to Johnson's cabin. But they have it inserted in the film to look like it's after the shootout when they're leaving to pursue Johnson. As much as I like this movie, I sure wish someone would make a movie based on the facts of The Mad Trapper of Rat River. The books on this guy are a fascinating story. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 6 May 2010 22:10

Talk:Death Hunt

2010-05-07T05:16:02Z

Harleyguy:

==screencaps==
Nobody has this on DVD? This page needs some screencaps! --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 07:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I only have it on VHS to date. Just watched it on Fox Movie Channel, and noticed that some of the actors are carrying Winchest Model 1873's. Constable Alvin Adams (Andrew Stevens) carries one when he shoots a deer with Sgt Edgar Millen (Lee Marvin) and Sundog (Carl Weathers), and is carrying one at the shootout at Albert Johnson's (Charles Bronson)cabin. So is the man who gets his arm caught in a bear trap outside Johnson's cabin. Johnson also has a single shot shotgun that he cuts the barrel off down to the forestock, and a single shot bolt action rifle that he cuts the buttstock off of. He shoots the one-eyed "Charlie" who rushes the cabin and kicks in the door, only to be shot dead by Johnson who's lying entrenched on the floor with these two guns. There's a continuity error in the film also, the scenes where Millen is opening his trunk and taking out weapons such as his Colt New Service revolver and 12 gauge Winchester pump shotgun, and has a leather shotgun shell belt over his shoulder when talking to Angie Dickinson before going out the door, are all when he's leaving to lead the posse of psycho trappers and his three Mounties to Johnson's cabin. But they have it inserted in the film to look like it's after the shootout when they're leaving to pursue Johnson. As much as I like this movie, I sure wish someone would make a movie based on the facts of The Mad Trapper of Rat River. The books on this guy are a fascinating story. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 6 May 2010 22:10

Talk:Death Hunt

2010-05-07T05:11:47Z

Harleyguy: