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Talk:True Detective - Season 2

2015-07-14T04:32:54Z

HKUrban: /* Machine Pistol */

==Machine Pistol==
In Season 2 Episode 4, one of the criminals with Ledo Amarilla wields a machine pistol when he gets out of the SUV up until shortly before Velcoro shoots him. It's hard to tell but my best guess based on its profile is it might be a Steyr SPP or some variant of such. I'd take a screen but in all the stills I can muster it always ends up motion blurred.

--[[User:HKUrban|HKUrban]] ([[User talk:HKUrban|talk]]) 00:32, 14 July 2015 (EDT)

==Behind the scenes images==
Not sure if these are legit images or taken by spectators, (judging by some of the angles I'm inclined to go with the latter), so I'll just link to them for now, but these images show the weapons listed on the page without images.
 [http://i.imgur.com/ZLO3L5o.jpg| Smith & Wesson 4006]
 [http://i.imgur.com/HA1eKSI.jpg| SIG-Sauer P226 Beavertail]
 [http://i.imgur.com/1ASt2oo.jpg| Browning Hi-Power]
 --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 22:00, 17 April 2015 (GMT)

==CZ 52==
Is it just me or does the CZ 52, look more like a Browning HP? --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 00:47, 14 June 2015 (GMT)
:I'm in agreement with you; that is a BHP.--[[User:Tecolote|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote|talk]]) 01:58, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
::I'm gonna go ahead and change it then. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 17:28, 14 June 2015 (GMT)

==SIG-Sauer P226 Beavertail==
Detective Ani Bezzerides ([[Rachel McAdams]]) is also seen with a [[SIG-Sauer P226 Beavertail]] in various behind the scenes shots.
[[File:SIGP226-Beavertail.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226 Beavertail - 9x19mm.]]

=Additional=

[[File:TDS2-SW4006-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Velcoro runs down a street behind Woodrugh with his Hi-Power drawn.]]

Talk:True Detective - Season 2

2015-07-14T04:32:34Z

HKUrban:

==Machine Pistol==
In Season 2 Episode 4, one of the criminals with Ledo Amarilla wields a machine pistol when he gets out of the SUV up until shortly before Velcoro shoots him. It's hard to tell but my best guess based on its profile is it might be a Steyr SPP or some variant of such. I'd take a screen but in all the stills I can muster it always ends up motion blurred.
[[User:HKUrban|HKUrban]] ([[User talk:HKUrban|talk]]) 00:32, 14 July 2015 (EDT)

==Behind the scenes images==
Not sure if these are legit images or taken by spectators, (judging by some of the angles I'm inclined to go with the latter), so I'll just link to them for now, but these images show the weapons listed on the page without images.
 [http://i.imgur.com/ZLO3L5o.jpg| Smith & Wesson 4006]
 [http://i.imgur.com/HA1eKSI.jpg| SIG-Sauer P226 Beavertail]
 [http://i.imgur.com/1ASt2oo.jpg| Browning Hi-Power]
 --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 22:00, 17 April 2015 (GMT)

==CZ 52==
Is it just me or does the CZ 52, look more like a Browning HP? --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 00:47, 14 June 2015 (GMT)
:I'm in agreement with you; that is a BHP.--[[User:Tecolote|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote|talk]]) 01:58, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
::I'm gonna go ahead and change it then. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 17:28, 14 June 2015 (GMT)

==SIG-Sauer P226 Beavertail==
Detective Ani Bezzerides ([[Rachel McAdams]]) is also seen with a [[SIG-Sauer P226 Beavertail]] in various behind the scenes shots.
[[File:SIGP226-Beavertail.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226 Beavertail - 9x19mm.]]

=Additional=

[[File:TDS2-SW4006-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Velcoro runs down a street behind Woodrugh with his Hi-Power drawn.]]

Talk:Tyrant

2014-07-23T19:36:03Z

HKUrban: /* AR-15 variant */

==AR-15 variant==
I can't understand what exactly AR-15 variant in the hands of the soldier. Note the shape of lower receiver.
[[File:Tyrant-S1E1-ColtAR15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] ([[User talk:Bednardos|talk]]) 17:49, 22 July 2014 (EET)

:Just barely beat me to making this article! I had the screencaps lined up and everything. Anyways, I believe the "M16s" and "CAR-15s" used by the regular security forces (at least until Ep 04) are non-firing replica props based on their appearance to include parallel forward assist/pin (see the non-firing prop segment of the [[M16]] article). If this is true, then it kind of spoils that those particular rifles will never be used in a firefight. The same can not be said of some of the other, more impressive hardware like the Vz. 58s and MTARs. --[[User:HKUrban|HKUrban]] ([[User talk:HKUrban|talk]]) 02:03, 23 July 2014 (EDT)
::I'm not so sure about that. Firstly, as far as I can tell the forward assist correctly sticks out diagonally (particularly visible on the M16 shot) as opposed to being parallel to the barrel axis like on the MGC replicas. The thing that I find particularly odd about these guns is the fact that the upper is absolutely perfect and appears to be genuine upper from an actual gun, as opposed to the lower which is really crude with awful ergonomics and only vaguely resembles that of an AR-15. To me it sort of seems like that for whatever reason they had some uppers but no lowers, so just whipped something up from scratch that looked sort of right from a distance. Why this would be the case though, I have no idea. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:57, 23 July 2014 (EDT)
:::On second review you are right, at least about this particular piece. I think there may be a few different models floating around depending on proximity to camera, screen time, etc. Because of that I may have noticed mock-up features on one piece and fallen victim to confirmation bias when examining others. I will look back through my screen grabs and see if I can pick out some of these different versions. It is indeed strange that they have access to top-of-the-line Israeli firearms like the MTAR, X95S, and Galatz, but not to standard M16s and M4s which are fairly prevalent in Israel where much of this season was being filmed prior to escalation of conflict in that region. --[[User:HKUrban|HKUrban]] ([[User talk:HKUrban|talk]]) 15:22, 23 July 2014 (EDT)

==Israeli Weapons==
When I first saw the showcase of weapons available in Episode 4, I was both confused and impressed. It seemed rather odd that the show was able to not only acquire what appear to be real versions of high-end Israeli small arms, but that they would chose these weapons for a fictional Arab country in the throws of the Arab Spring, especially when more traditional AK-type weapons were seen in the flashback sequences and in the hands of rebels. When I learned that the show was being filmed in Israel, it did explain the access to these weapons on a real world basis, but it does still beg the question as to what the in-universe explanation is, especially since in Episode 1, the elder Al Fa'id made mention of "Zionists" in a negative light.

With the exception of the Romat used by a rebel child, all purely Israeli weapons have been seen in the hands of Special Forces. This could lead to areas of speculation as to Abbudin's relationship with Israel (and by extension their Arab neighbors). Are the Abbudin Security Forces overt or clandestine in their acquisitions from Israel? Did Abbudin defeat Israel in a recent conflict and capture some of their small arms (replacing their older Chinese and Romanian rifles with M16s and MTARs)? For that matter, does the presence of Israeli weapons also hint that Abbudin is geographically proximate to Israel? I have a feeling we can't definitively answer these questions without an interview with the show's writers or directors, but it might be at lest worth noting the peculiarity of Abbudin's arsenal in the main pages commentary. --[[User:HKUrban|HKUrban]] ([[User talk:HKUrban|talk]]) 15:35, 23 July 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Tyrant

2014-07-23T19:26:23Z

HKUrban: /* AR-15 variant */

Talk:Tyrant

2014-07-23T06:03:38Z

HKUrban: