Talk:Total Western

2014-06-29T12:36:09Z

Galilan:

The un-IDed pistols 1-3 appear to be M1911s. #4 appear to be a SIG-Sauer of some sort, although in the last picture, it looks like a Beretta. The first shotgun appears to be a sawn-off Winchester 1912, but the last image looks like a Mossberg 500. The M16A2 looks like it's missing the flash hider, which probably means it's a civilian model. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:00, 9 April 2014 (EDT)

UnIDed pistol #1 looks like a [[M1911_pistol_series#Colt_MK_IV_Series_80_Combat_Elite|Colt Combat Elite]] to me.
[[Image:80elite6-1-.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Combat Elite - .45 ACP]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:09, 10 April 2014 (EDT)
:Many thanks! There is some continuity error with shotguns, I'll looks this scene again to resolve it. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 10:04, 10 April 2014 (EDT)
::I'm still unsure with shotguns. As I looks again and again, the one with pistol grip seems to resemble Mossberg 500 while the second one seems to be not a Mossberg but something else. And the third one, with elongated tube, bears some resemblance with High Standart. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:41, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

The unidentified SMG it's a Uzi: a wooden buttstock one, without the buttstock.

Torrente

2014-06-29T12:31:52Z

Galilan: /* Unidentified Submachine Gun */

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{{Infobox Movie|{{Torrente}}
|name = Torrente<br>
|picture = Torrente-poster.jpg
|caption =
|country = [[Image:ESP.jpg|25px]] Spain
|director = Santiago Segura
|date = 1998
|character1 = Torrente
|character2 = Rafi
|actor1 = [[Santiago Segura]]
|actor2 = [[Javier Cámara]]
}}

'''''Torrente''''' is a Spanish cop comedy set in Madrid in the 1990’s that tells the story of former police inspector José Luis Torrente. His total lack of good manners, plus his fondness for seedy bars and adult magazines, assure that his despicable personality does more damage than the criminals he is supposed to chase.

In a desperate attempt to get back into service, he starts an investigation into a Chinese drug smuggling ring. He picks Rafi, a not-so-clever fishmonger, and his friends to help him. Underlying motivation for this unlikely choice of companions is Torrente’s attempt to make a romantic move on Rafi’s niece Amparito.

This movie (full title:'''''Torrente, The Stupid Arm of the Law''''' (Spanish: '''''Torrente, El Brazo Tonto de la Ley''''') marks the starts of the Torrente franchise. Next to a video game, several movies were to follow; '''''[[Torrente 2]], Mission in Marbella''''' in 2001, '''''[[Torrente 3]], The Protector''''' in 2005 and '''''[[Torrente 4]], Lethal Crisis''''' in 2011.

{{Film Title|Torrente}}

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=Handguns=

==Llama Scorpio==
Torrente ([[Santiago Segura]]) uses a [[Llama Scorpio]] revolver as his side-arm throughout the movie. Rafi ([[Javier Cámara]]) also uses it on several occasions. In the beginning of the movie, the gun accidentally drops from Torrentes holster and Rafi picks it up, before giving an elaborate description of the gun.
[[Image:Llama Scorpio.jpg|thumb|none|300px| Llama Scorpio revolver - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Torrente-LlamaScorpio-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''”A Llama .38 Special CGT! It can perforate 3mm of steel at a distance of 90 meters. Made in Spain, in Vitoria!”''.]]
[[Image:Torrente-LlamaScorpio-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Torrente looking at the [[Llama Scorpio]] in his hand whilst deciding on his next move during the finale.]]
[[Image:Torrente-LlamaScorpio-09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the supermarket robbery scene, the robber on the left is seen holding a [[Llama Scorpio]] as well.]]

==Llama Model 8==
A local drug lord (actor unknown) carries a chromed [[Llama Pistol Series#Llama Model 8|Llama Model 8]] pistol with pearl grips as his side-arm throughout the movie. Even though it strongly resembles a [[M1911A1]] (both in design and dimensions), it can be identified by the large ventilated rib on top of the slide.
[[Image:Llama Model 8.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Llama Model 8 Pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Torrente-LlamaModel8-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The drug lord threatening Raffi’s niece Amparito ([[Neus Asensi]]) with the [[Llama Pistol Series#Llama Model 8|Llama Model 8]], note the ventilated rib on the barrel.]]
[[Image:Torrente-LlamaModel8-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The drug lord threatening Torrente’s father Felipe (Tony Leblanc), giving a good view on the two openings in the rib on the barrel.]]

==Beretta 92SB-C==
Rodrigo ([[Antonio de la Torre]]), one of drug lord’s henchmen, carries a [[Beretta 92SB-C]] throughout the movie. It is identifiable by the round trigger guard and the barrel which has roughly the same length as the slide.
[[Image:92SB-C.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92SB-C, compact model of the 92SB - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Torrente-Beretta92SBC-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rodrigo holding his [[Beretta 92SB-C]] as he and a fellow thug discuss their next move.]]
[[Image:Torrente-Beretta92SBC-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rodrigo looks at his boss for advice after somebody has exited through a window of their office. Note the typical front part of the gun.]]

=Submachine Guns=

==Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II==
Torrente also uses a [[Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II]] in several scenes, most notably in the scene where he takes Rafi to a public park for shooting lessons. It is not, as might be expected, a Spanish copy but rather an original Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II, the difference being that the Spanish copy has a circular retracting handle whereas the one on the Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II is more shaped like a lever.
[[Image: Mp28.jpg|thumb|none|460px| Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II Submachine Gun - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Torrente-MP28-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Torrente taking the [[Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II]] out of its case during the shooting lessons in a public park.]]
[[Image:Torrente-MP28-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Torrente struggling with the [[Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II]] as Rafi watches in awe at the random destruction caused by the shooting.]]
[[Image:Torrente-MP28-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the final shoot-out, Rafi clings on to his [[Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II]]. Note the retracting handle identifying this gun as an original rather than a Spanish copy.]]

==CETME C2==
Most thugs from the drug smuggling ring carry the [[Sterling SMG|CETME C2]], a Spanish version of the [[Sterling SMG|Sterling Mk. IV]] submachine gun that is recognizable by the straight magazine, rather than the curved one on the original version, and a more ergonomic handgrip.
[[Image:CETME C2.jpg|thumb|none|460px|CETME C2 Submachine Gun - 9x23mm Largo]]
[[Image:SterlingSMG.jpg|thumb|none|460px|Sterling Mk. IV Submachine Gun - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Torrente-CetmeC2-06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the final shoot-out at the old warehouse, one of Rafi’s friends (actor unknown) carries a [[Sterling SMG|CETME C2]], taken from a disarmed gang member a few moments earlier.]]
[[Image:Torrente-CetmeC2-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Torrente and Rafi being chased by several members of the drug smuggling ring, the two in the front carrying the [[Sterling SMG|CETME C2]].]]
[[Image:Torrente-CetmeC2-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rafi’s girlfriend (actor unknown) takes a [[Sterling SMG|CETME C2]] off a thug in the final shoot-out and uses it to deadly effect.]]

==Unidentified Submachine Gun==
During the climatic shoot-out at the old warehouse, 4 thugs are firing the same unidentified submachine gun. The magazine well is located very much to the front and the overall design appears to be 1950-s and it bears some resemblance to the [[Madsen M50]]. I'ts probably to be a "Parinco[[File:http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3262/dsc01572en8.jpg]]", experimental spanish model, copy of Belgian's Vigneron.
[[Image:Torrente-unidsubmachgun-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

=Shotguns=

==Remington 870 Slug Gun==
During the supermarket robbery scene, one of the robbers is carrying a [[Remington 870 Slug Gun]] with a sawn-off stock and what appears to be some kind of custom-made pistol grip.
[[Image:Remington870SlugGun.jpg|thumb|none|460px|Remington 870 Slug Gun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Torrente-Rem870slug-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the rifle sights and receiver of the [[Remington 870 Slug Gun]] from the business end.]]
[[Image:Torrente-Rem870slug-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This side-view shows the magazine tube plus what looks like a sharply angled custom-made pistol grip.]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Behind the Scenes Images==
[[Image:Torrente-trivia-01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|From a ladder a member of the special effects team simulates bullet impacts from a submachine gun by shooting paint ball pellets into the dusty park grounds.]]
[[Image:Torrente-trivia-04.jpg|thumb|none|800px|When shooting (…) is finished, one of the actors makes a fool of himself by accidentally firing his blank-loaded pistol before handing it over to one of the armorers.]]

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CETME Rifle

2011-10-27T13:08:08Z

Galilan: /* Film */

[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Spanish CETME Rifle Chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:Cetme b30.jpg|thumb|right|500px|CETME Model B - 7.62x51mm]]
The name CETME is an acronym for Centro de Estudios Técnicos de Materiales Especiales, a Spanish government design and development establishment. The CETME rifle, which was initially trialed with other calibers, but eventually chambered for 7.62x51mm NATO caliber, was designed primarily by the German engineer, Ludwig Vorgrimmler, who based his model on a late WWII German prototype assault rifle, the experimental StG45(M).

Manufactured in Spain from 1957, the CETME served as a blueprint for the German Heckler & Koch G3 series of battle rifles. The CETME features roller-delayed blowback operation, which it shares with many German weapons. The CETME rifle was manufactured in five models, the A, B, C, L , LC and LV models. The primary difference in the three first models is the absence of bipod and less weight C model, with more wood. The L series was the "light", modern 5.56 NATO assault rifles with composite materials, the LC was the short version of it, and the LV was an improved, and last version of CETME L.

The easiest way to determine a Spanish CETME apart from one of its H&K cousins is by looking at the fixed rear site (whereas the H&K family generally use the rotary "spindle" or "barrel" type peep-sights.). Some older magazines are slightly curved, but many CETME magazines look almost identical to H&K ones; also the wooden stock is usually indicative of a CETME, however there are some H&K G3/91's with wooden furniture stock sets.

'''The Spanish CETME has been used by the following actors in the following:'''

==Film==

* Some Somali Militia in ''[[Black_Hawk_Down|Blackhawk Down]]''
[[Image:Blackhawk1-1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Scan from "Blackhawk Down"]]
*The Hoover Dam Terrorist members in ''[[Universal Soldier]]'', using model "BtC".
[[Image:UnisolA 03.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Scan from "Universal Soldier"]]
*Swat team using model "B" in ''[[Hell of the Living Dead]]''.
[[Image:Cetme 12 Hell of the living dead.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Scan from "Hell of the living dead"]]
'''See also'''
[[Heckler_%26_Koch_G3| H&K G3 H&k 91]]

==Games==

*[[Fallout 3]] called the R91 Assault Rifle
*[[Ace Combat: Assault Horizon]]
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Torrente

CETME Rifle