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Talk:Starship Troopers

2015-02-17T09:14:54Z

Euromutt:

I have one of the Morita Rifles from the movie but it's all beat up. I still have my battle armor from the movie shoot (you know, the guy that was standing 355th from the guy on the left! ;) I'll try to fix up the Morita rifle and photograph it. sigh, yet another thing to do. MPM2008

:No stress. There are actually lots of pics of the Moritas from the movie floating around on the 'Net, but obviously, we'd rather have one of yours than something taken from another site. Whenever you get around to it. -MT2008

::Are you by any chance visible in any of these shots MPM? Obviously I wouldn't ask you to point yourself out if you are, but I'd still find it cool to know if you were. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::Does your Morita rifle still work?
::::Uh, the Moritas are shells. Any live guns like the Ruger AC556 and short barreled Ithaca 37 would be removed and locked up in the vault with all the other cinema weapons. My morita can still fit a Ruger Mini 14 but there were tons of internal structural damage and putting the rifle back in and trying to fire it would just result in a rifle bouncing around a sci fi shell, which is really unsafe. I have some Morita pulls, i.e. stunt Moritas which were molded with the Rifle and and short Ithaca 37 mounted so that it looks complete. I will see what I can do but the Morita still needs a bunch of repairs. remember it's over 13 years old.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:10, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

:Dude, that would be badass! If I had one I would bring it to the range and turn some heads-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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in the book the mobile infantry used power armor that made tanks look cheap.
they never said the full armament in the book. the weapons mention were "pewee nukes", a bomb launcher on the back, "hand flamers", some sort of energy weapon called a "knife beam"
also having jumping ability (including jet and rocket boost assistance), and provided the wearer with improved senses (infrared vision and night vision, radar, and amplified hearing), a completely self-contained personal environment, sophisticated communications equipment, and tactical map displays. Their powered armor made the Mobile Infantry a hybrid between an infantry unit and an armored one. so they can move fast and kick ass. every mobile infantry used power armor making them a formidable fighting force

:The CGI series was more accurate with the book somewhat, and the 3rd movie, straight to DVD of course brought the power armor. I want to know what the guns are built from in that movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::I believe they were M1 Thompsons in a really big plastic shell. I'll try to screencap that at some point. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

also the bugs in the book had ships, city and energy weapons
== Live fire exercise section ==

I'm not sure who wrote this, but they seem to have missed the point a little; it's ''supposed'' to be ridiculously unsafe, fitting in with the movie's nature as a satire; it's the classic 'badass bootcamp' sequence taken to the level of outright absurdity. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:I wrote this, and no Vangelis, it is not excuseable. It is dumb, plain and simple. It makes the audience groan, and not in a good way. Verhoeven did a lot that was intentionally over the top. This was just stupid. They were trying to make the camp look busy and bustling with people, but even during filming, people were grousing about how dumb the entire live fire layout was. Try not to make excuses for it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:04, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:: Uwe Boll made a hilariously bad movie about Vietnam and this is ''still'' the stupidest war movie I have ever seen. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] ([[User talk:Atypicaloracle|talk]]) 06:37, 19 February 2013 (EST)
:::It is easily the worst movie TCM has ever aired for their annual "28 Days of Oscar" festival. (Nominated for best visual effects.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:40, 19 February 2013 (EST)
::: The combat sequences are this film's weak point, frankly. As a satire of fascism, ''Starship Troopers'' does a very good job.--[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] ([[User talk:Euromutt|talk]]) 03:54, 17 February 2015 (EST)

== I could do more damage with an airsoft rifle! ==
As much as I actually do enjoy this movie, the Mobile Infantry couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:33, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

the MI in the book were better Rex095

== SouthPaw Morita shot ==

I believe that shot is reversed, if you watch the original trailer they have the same shot but the not reversed I'm assuming

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2909/mortia.png

Since you obviously don't pay attention to the captions written under the screenshots, the creator of this page even pointed it out that it's a reverse shot [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:10, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

"An impressive lineup of Morita Rifles. Either the shot is reversed or all the actors are aiming their rifles "Southpaw" or Left handed".
It does not state that it is just implies that it is.

==The future is here==
Has the Morita inspired this? [[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 20:23, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
http://www.military.com/news/article/army-sending-new-airburst-gun-to-101st.html

No, that gun was part of the OICW project. The OICW project had been around since before the ST movie came out.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 21:13, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

And the X-25 is just an airburst grenade launcher. It's not an assault rifle. It used to be part of the OICW project and it used to be BIGGER because the airburst grenade launcher has an assault rifle underneath it. I mean, if you've done more research on bullpup rifles, you can see many other weapons that are very successful, like the AUG, FAMAS or the Tavor. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:31, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that! Here in Leftieland we don't get much news on weapons so it's new to us.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]]

:You could do a google search for Bullpup weapons and it'll give you a ton of sites that'll talk about it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:31, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

==Sights? Who needs sights?==
I'm re-watching this film on Netflix, almost twenty years after I saw it the first time, and while I think I noticed the first time that nobody in the film actually sights their weapons, only now, thanks to the magic of IMFDB.org, do I notice that that is to a large extent because almost none of the weapons even ''have'' sights to begin with. The exception being "Sugar" Watkins' "sniper" rifle, which has a bloody huge sight which he doesn't use either (though Raszcak does when he borrows the weapon). --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] ([[User talk:Euromutt|talk]]) 04:14, 17 February 2015 (EST)

Talk:Starship Troopers

2015-02-17T08:54:53Z

Euromutt: /* Live fire exercise section */

The Blacklist - Season 1

2015-01-19T12:40:40Z

Euromutt: /* Smith & Wesson M&P */

{{Infobox TV|The Blacklist - Season 1
|picture = BlacklistS1.jpg
|country = [[File:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|channel = NBC
|genre = Crime
|dates = 2013-2014
|episodes = 22
|character1= Raymond "Red" Reddington
|actor1=[[James Spader]]
|character2= FBI Special Agent Elizabeth Keen
|actor2=[[Megan Boone]]
|character3= FBI Assistant Director Harold Cooper
|actor3=[[Harry Lennix]]
|character6= FBI Special Agent Donald Ressler
|actor6=[[Diego Klattenhoff]]
}}

{{TV Title Season|1|Blacklist, The{{!}}The Blacklist}}

__TOC__ 

=Pistols=

==Beretta 92FS==
Raymond Reddington examines a photo of a [[Beretta 92FS]] in a clear evidence bag in "Pilot". It's seen in a weapons cache of the Courier in "The Courier (No. 85)". One is seen in the armory of the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)".

[[File:92FS+M9Hybrid.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Current American made Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm. Note the slanted dust cover, recurved backstrap and hex grip screws which distinguish this from earlier versions.]]
[[File:Blacklist pilot photos.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raymond examines the photo of a 92FS in a clear evidence bag in "Pilot".]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 047.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Beretta 92FS is among the many weapons owned by the Courier in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S02E05).]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Beretta 92FS on the wall rack in the armory.]]

==Colt M1911A1==
What appears to be a Colt M1911A1 is seen behind the Beretta 92FS in "The Courier (No. 85)".
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Nickel Plated Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 047.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Colt M1911A1 is among the many weapons owned by the Courier in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S01E05).]]

==Colt Mark IV Series 80==
Reddington uses a Colt Mark IV Series 80 as his main sidearm throughout "The Good Samaritan (No. 106)".

[[File:Series801991.jpg|450px|thumb|none|Colt MK IV Series 80 Post 2003 Model- .45 ACP.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E11 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Red shoots an armed bodyguard of a money launderer in "The Good Samaritan (No. 106)". (S01E11)]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E11 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Red takes a magazine full of .45 ACP bullets from the unloaded pistol. (S01E11)]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E11 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Field stripping the pistol in front of Aram. (S01E11)]]

==Colt M45A1 CQBP==
A [[Colt M45A1 CQBP]] is used as the main sidearm of Anslo Garrick ([[Ritchie Coster]]), first seen in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)Part 1".

[[File:M45A1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M45A1 Close Quarter Battle Pistol (CQBP) - .45 ACP]]
[[File:GarrickSilencedM45A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Anslo Garrick ([[Ritchie Coster]]) aims his silenced [[Colt M45A1 CQBP]] at a truck driver, coercing him to park the truck by the elevators in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Part 1".]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Garrick threatens to execute Assistant Director Harry Cooper in the middle of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Part 1".]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Garrick aims the M45A1 at the head of Dembe near the end of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Part 1".]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E10 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|You can the picatinny railing of the M45A1 on Garrick's leg near the end of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion".]]

==CZ 75 SP-01 PHANTOM==
Elizabeth finds a [[CZ 75 SP-01 PHANTOM]] in a box underneath the floorboards of her apartment belonging to her husband in "Pilot". In the box also include wads of American dollars and several passports.
[[File:CZ 75 SP-01 Phantom.jpg|thumb|300px|none|CZ 75 SP-01 PHANTOM - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 075.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Discovering the box with the SP-01, multiple passports and wads of American dollars.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 077.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Elizabeth examines the pistol.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E02 027.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The PHANTOM can be seen again in "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S01E02) when Elizabeth repacks the box.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E03 pistol test.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Elizabeth prepares to fire the SP-01 on several soaked phone books to serve as a makeshift ballistic sponge in "Wujing (No. 84)".]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E3unk2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|(S1E03)]]

==CZ 83==
An early model [[CZ 83]] is used by Nestor ([[Bjorn Dupaty]]) to stop Liz and Ressler's investigation in "The Cyprus Agency (No. 64)" (S01E13).
[[File:CZ 83 Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|CZ 83, early model with rounded trigger guard - .32 ACP]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E13 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the rounded trigger guard which indicates that this is an early model]]

==FN Five-seveN USG==
A [[FN Five-seveN]] is among the many weapons owned by the Courier in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S01E05).
[[File:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|300px|none|FN Five-seveN USG (U.S. Government) model - FN 5.7×28mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 045.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Just visible in this shot is the MIL-STD-1913 rail indicating that this is the later USG model. Also note that the pistol is either fitted with an extended 30 round magazine, or a 20 magazine that is simply not inserted all of the way into the pistol.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 039.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The Five-seveN can be seen in a case when the Courier's weapons are found by the FBI.]]

==Glock 17==
[[Glock 17]]s are used by various FBI personnel throughout the series. One is most likely seen on the wall rack of an armory in the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)". One of the armed men working for "The Judge" uses a Glock 17 when he captures Agent Cooper in "The Judge (No. 57)". A loaded Glock 17 is seen in an evidence photo near the end of "Ivan (No. 88)". Bank security guards use Glock 17s at the start of "Berlin (No. 8)".

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Glock 17 (3rd Gen) - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:blacklist_glock1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FBI Police officer aims his Glock 17 at Reddington while he gets arrested at the J. Edgar Hoover Building.]]
[[File:BlacklistGlockCircleRed.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The FBI officers surround Reddington with their Glock 17s.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Glock 17 on the wall rack next to the MP5A3.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E15 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed man working for the "Judge" aims his Glock 17 at Agent Cooper after being disarmed.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E17 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Keen examines the evidence photo of a loaded Glock 17.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bank security guard orders bank clients to stay put due to the risk of infecting the public.]]

==Glock 19==
A few FBI agents can also be seen with Glock 19s throughout the season with Ressler carrying it as his main sidearm for the rest of the season. One of Zamani's men has a [[Glock 19]] in "Pilot". Wujing ([[Chin Han]]) and his thugs use Glock 19s in "Wujing (No. 84)". Reactivated CIA agent Meera Malik ([[Parminder Nagra]]) uses a Glock 19 as her main sidearm in the season, which first appears in the same episode. Reddington takes Ressler's Glock 19 and uses it for a short time in "Anslo Garrick" (No 16) Part 1". Owen Mallory ([[Campbell Scott]]) seizes Liz's Glock 19 and attempts to fire it before he's wounded by Ressler in "The Cyprus Agency (No. 64)". A loaded Glock 19 is seen in an evidence photo near the end of "Ivan (No. 88)". Stragenly enough, a Public Security Police officer is armed with a Glock 19 at the start of "The Pavlovich Brothers (No. 119-122)". Berlin agents operating in New York appear to use the Glock 19 as their primary sidearm.

[[File:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Glock 19, 3rd generation - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 041.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of Zamani's men, disguised as a hazmat worker, aims his Glock 19 at a wounded Elizabeth inside the wrecked Chevrolet Suburban.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E03 042.jpg|thumb|600px|none|An FBI SWAT team member loading his Glock 19 in "Wujing (No. 84)" (S01E03). Note the slide markings which confirm that this is a 9x19mm Glock 19.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E3NANGlock.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Two of Wujing's thugs hold Glock 19s on Keen and Reddington.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E3G19.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Wujing holds a Glock 19 on Keen and Reddington. Note the angled portion cut off the front of the Glock's barrel hood (the portion of the slide which locks into the ejection port when the pistol is in battery) which is a necessary alteration required for a theatrical blank fire gun to function correctly.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E03 Wujing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wujing aims the Glock 19 at Reddington.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E3unk.jpg|thumb|600px|none|(S1E03)]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 Meera Malik.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CIA Agent Meera Malik opens fire with his Glock 19 at the fleeing Courier's SUV in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S02E05).]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 036.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Both Malik and FBI Special Agent Elizabeth Keen ([[Megan Boone]]) carry Glock 19s in the Virginia operation.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 061.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Ressler with his Glock 19 in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S02E05).]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E07 003.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Keen surrendering her Glock 19 is "Frederick Barnes (No. 47)" (S01E07).]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reddington fires Ressler's Glock 19 at steam pipes during the attack on the FBI's black ops compound.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E11 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meera with the Glock 19 while leading a raid on Aram's residence.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E13 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mallory aims the iron sights of Liz's Glock 19. (S01E13)]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E16 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good closeup of the Glock 19 in Ressler's right hand near the end of "Mako Tanida (No. 83)".]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E17 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Keen examines the evidence photo of a loaded Glock 19.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E19 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PSP officer trains his sidearm on an ambulance in "The Pavlovich Brothers" (No. 119-122). The depiction is wrong since they use Chinese-made firearms. In addition, PSP uniforms are suppose to be fully dark blue.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Berlin agent fires the Glock 19 to execute an ex-air traffic controller near the end of "Berlin (No 8.)"]]

==Glock 26==
Special Agent Elizabeth Keen ([[Megan Boone]]) carries a [[Glock 26]] as her main sidearm, which showed up first in "Pilot" (S1E01). She somehow changes her sidearm to the Glock 19 in "The Courier (No. 85)". Tom Keen (Ryan Eggold) seems to use one in order to execute the Cowboy in the middle of "Mako Tanida (No. 83)" (S1E16).

[[Image:Glock 26.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Glock 26 subcompact pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 023.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Elizabeth drawing her Glock inside the crashed car.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 044.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Elizabeth emerges out of the wrecked SUV.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E02 086.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Elizabeth operating an elevator with her Glock 26 in hand in "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S1E02).]]
[[File:Blacklist E02 hotel corridor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Elizabeth aims her Glock 26 at Dembe near the end of "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S1E02).]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E16 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tom pulls the slide of the Glock 26.]]

==Glock (unknown type)==
A Haitian man appears to have a Glock pistol tucked in his waistband in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)". There's not enough details to determine what type of Glock pistol it is.

[[File:Blacklist S1E04 Glock unknown type.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Haitian man appears to pull out the Glock after Reddington receives a call from Liz.]]

==Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0==
A [[Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0]] is among the many weapons owned by the Courier in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S02E05).
[[File:Mk23.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0 - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 046.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The Mk 23 is the upper most pistol in this shot.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 039.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A clearer shot of the Mk 23 when the Courier's weapons are found by the FBI. Note that it is fitted with a MIL-STD-1913 rail adapter on the proprietary H&K rail.]]

== Heckler & Koch P30 ==
In "Berlin: Conclusion (No. 8)" (S01E22), Raymond "Red" Reddington ([[James Spader]]) uses a suppressed [[Heckler & Koch P30]] when confronting Milos Pavel Kinsky ([[Andrew Howard]]).
[[File:p30suppressed.jpg|401px|thumb|none|Heckler & Koch P30 w/ Suppressor - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:Jamesspaderp30.jpg|600px|thumb|none|In "Berlin: Conclusion (No. 8)" (S1E22), Raymond "Red" Reddington draws his suppressed [[Heckler & Koch P30]] on Milos Pavel Kinsky.]]
[[File:Jamesspaderp30table.jpg|600px|thumb|none|In "Berlin: Conclusion (No. 8)" (S1E22), Reddington holds the P30 while talking about his memory of people's names and how it's critical to his survival. All that ends with him basically saying he has no clue who Kinsky is.]]
[[File:Jamesspaderp30draw.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Reddington holds his P30 on Tom Keen, who is using a [[SIG-Sauer P232]] to threaten Elizabeth Keen.]]

==Heckler & Koch USP Compact==
A Wild Bunch mercenary holds Keen with a Heckler & Koch USP Compact aimed at her neck at the start of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion".
[[Image:Usp compact 3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|H&K USP Compact with full un-bobbed hammer - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E10 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The WB mercenary aims his USP Compact at Keen's neck in a showdown with Special Agent Mojtabai.]]

==IWI Jericho 941 RPSL==
An IWI Jericho 941 RPSL is used by Eric Trettel ([[Ryan O'Nan]]) aka the Alchemist near the end of "The Alchemist (No. 101)" as his main sidearm.

[[File:Jericho 941 RPSL.jpg|thumb|none|400px|none|Jericho 941 RPSL Semi-Compact, polymer framed - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E12 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eric aims the barrel of the RPSL at the cashier at a convenience store in Virginia.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E12 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eric confronts an armed man after threatening the cashier to drop the phone.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E12 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(S1E12)]]

==Makarov PM==
A [[Makarov PM]] is used by Reddington in "Wujing (No. 84)" (S01E03)

[[File:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Makarov PM - 9x18mm]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E3RedHG.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Reddington fires the Makarov.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E03 069.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Reddington hand the Makarov back to the guard he took it from.]]

==Ruger P89==
A Ruger P89 is used by Milton Bobbit ([[Damian Young]]) to threaten a businessman near the end of "Milton Bobbit (No. 135)".

[[Image:P89.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Ruger P89 9x19mm.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E18 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Milton brandishes the P89 when he sees MPD and FBI vehicles approach the cemetary.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
One of Dechambou's henchmen in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S02E05) carries what appears to be a [[SIG-Sauer P226]].
[[File:SigP226.jpg|thumb|300px|none|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 060.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The pistol has a double stack step on the frame and a hooked trigger guard which suggest that it is a P226.]]

==SIG-Sauer P229==
A [[SIG-Sauer P229]] is used by FBI Special Agent Donald Ressler ([[Diego Klattenhoff]]), first seen in "Pilot". One of Dechambou's henchmen is armed with a P229 in the middle of "The Courier (No. 85)".
[[File:SIGP229.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 051.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Special Agent Ressler opens fire at an armed mercenary.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 058.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of Dechambou's henchmen aims a P229 at Special Agent Ressler in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S02E05).]]

==SIG-Sauer P229R==
Later in the pilot episode (S01E01), Special Agent Ressler can also be seen using a [[SIG-Sauer P229R]]. This is most likely a continuity error, although it could be justified as Ressler would have lost his original pistol when jumping from the bridge during the kidnapping. Special Agent Aram Mojtabai ([[Amir Arison]]) uses one handed to him by FBI Assistant Director Cooper in the middle of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)". Mako Tanida ([[Hoon Lee]]) uses a P229R as his main sidearm when he arrives in America in the middle of "Mako Tanida (No. 83)". One is seen seized by the Metropolitan Police Department near the end of "Ivan (No. 88)". Danny ([[Isiah Whitlock Jr.]]) uses one in the middle of "Milton Bobbit" (No. 135).

[[File:SIG-SauerP229R.jpg|thumb|300px|none|SIG-Sauer P229R - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 065.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Special Agent Ressler aims his sidearm at the suspect, who is supposed to be Reddington.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E16 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tanida struggles with Ressler while the former aims the P229R over the latter's right shoulder.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E17 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Keen examines a MPD evidence photo of an unloaded P229R.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E18 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Danny aims the P229R at a politician in "Milton Bobbit" (No. 135).]]

==SIG-Sauer P229 E2==
MPD officers in "Frederick Barnes (No. 47)" (S01E07) carry [[SIG-Sauer P229 E2]]s. One of these pistols is later taken by Frederick Barnes ([[Robert Sean Leonard]]).

[[File:Screen-capture-204.jpg|thumb|300px|none|SIG-Sauer P229 E2 - 9x19mm. This is the current production model of the P229 (for the sake of distinguishing between this version and the older-model P229, IMFDB still refers to it as the "P229 E2", even though SIGArms no longer uses this designation).]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E07 001.jpg|thumb|600px|none|An MPD officer with his holstered P229.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E07 004.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Barnes holding a P229 on the MPD officer he took it from. Note the external extractor which identifies this as a current model P229 rather than the older P228R.]]

==SIG-Sauer P232==
A stainless steel [[SIG-Sauer P232]] is used by Perry (Wass Stevens) to murder an NYPD officer and a woman at the start of "The Cyprus Agency (No. 64)" (S1E13). A non-gun pistol that resembles a blued P232 is used by a rogue Federal Penitentiary Service (FSIN) officer coerced to hijack an unmarked cargo plane near the end of "Berlin (No. 8)". A blued [[SIG-Sauer P232]] is used by Tom Keen (Ryan Eggold) is first used as his personal sidearm in "Berlin" (No. 8)".

[[Image:SigP232.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P232 (Stainless Steel finish) - .380 ACP]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E13 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Perry fires the P232 at the back of the uniformed NYPD officer at the start of "The Cyprus Agency (No. 64)" (S1E13).]]
[[Image:SIGP232.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P232 - .380 ACP]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tom inserts the silencer on the barrel of his P232.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tom aims the silenced P232 at the downed Reddington agent.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The FSIN officer shoots his colleague in the head.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the pistol's barrel is very different from the actual P232, which leads to the conclusion that it's a non-gun due to safety reasons.]]
[[File:BlacklS1E22_06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Berlin: Conclusion (No. 8)" (S1E22), Tom aims the P232 at Liz's temple.]]

==Smith & Wesson 3914==
A [[Smith & Wesson 3914]] (NYPD DAO Auth. variant) is used by ex-SPLA guerrilla fighter Dembe Zuma ([[Hisham Tawfiq]]) near the end of "General Ludd (No. 109)".
[[File:S&W 3914.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Smith & Wesson 3914 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E08 General Ludd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dembe aims the 3914 at the head of Nathaniel Wolff.]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E08 Dembe.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dembe calmly aims the 3914 at Nathaniel Wolff.]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E08 Dembe-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dembe aims the 3914 at Nathaniel Wolff.]]

==Smith & Wesson M&P==
Special Agent Mojtabai carries a [[Smith & Wesson M&P]] of undetermined caliber (but not .45 ACP) in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)" and uses it to fatally shoot one of the Wild Bunch in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion."
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 30.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Special Agent Mojtabai does a quick brass check on the S&W M&P issued to him before he took refuge in a generator room.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 31.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Special Agent Keen does a quick brass check on Special Agent Mojtabai's sidearm.]]

==Solothurn ITM AT84S==
A [[Solothurn ITM AT84S]] is used by Ranko Zamani ([[Jamie Jackson]]) in "Pilot". A Solothurn is also used by an assassin to kill a CIA agent in Shanghai in "Wujing (No. 84)" (S01E03).
[[File:SolothurnAT84S.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Solothurn ITM AT84S with factory wood grips - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 056.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Zamani draws his pistol on Elizabeth.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 059.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A closer view of the Solothurn.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E3HG.jpg|thumb|601px|none|A Solothurn is also used to kill a CIA agent in Shanghai in "Wujing (No. 84)" (S01E03).]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E03 011.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The assassin firing the Solothurn through the car window.]]

==Walther P99==
An armed General Ludd militant uses a two-tone Walther P99 when engaged in a shootout with Special Agents Keen and Ressler in "General Ludd (No. 109)".
[[Image:WaltherP99 twotoneA.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Walther P99 with silver slide - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E08 P99.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A masked General Ludd militant opens fire with his P99.]]

==Walther P99QA==
The man surveiling Agent Keen's apartment in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion" (S01E10) carries a two-tone [[Walther P99QA]].

[[File:P99QA titanium.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Walther P99QA with titanium coated slide - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E10 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrel of the two-tone P99QA pressed against Agent Keen's neck.]]

==Star Firestar==

[[File:Blacklist S1E20 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E20 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
A Smith & Wesson Model 36 is used by Reddington near the end of "The Good Samaritan (No. 106)" to wound Henry in the leg. Also uses it again when he confront Meera Malik at her house by the end of "The Alchemist (No. 101)", now being used as his personal sidearm.

[[Image:S%26Wmodel36square.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 revolver with square butt - .38 Special.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E11 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Red aims the Model 36 at Henry's leg.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E11 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Red speaks to Henry after he fires the revolver.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E11 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Threatening Janice after Red locks her in a closet.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E12 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the revolver at Meera in her house.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E13 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Red fires the revolver to assassinate Diane Fowler at the end of "The Cyprus Agency" (No. 64).]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M36 being brandished by Red, aimed at Liz, as FBI SWAT teams and agents surround him from all sides near the end of "Berlin: (No. 8).]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 640/642==
Either a Smith & Wesson Model 640 or a 642 revolver was used by Dr. Gideon Hadley ([[Ezra Knight]]) near the end of "The Cyprus Agency (No. 64)".
[[Image:Smith%26Wesson640.jpg|none|thumb|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 640 Centennial - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:S&W642Airweight.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 642 Airweight Snub nose revolver chambered in .38 Special]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E13 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The revolver being grabbed by Dr. Hadley after being confronted by Special Agent Ressler. (S1E13)]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E12 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(S1E12)]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E12 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(S1E12)]]

=Submachine Guns=

==FN P90==
A FN P90 is seen on the wall rack of an armory in the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Part 1". A mercenary working under Anslo Garrick uses one in storming the compound in the same episode before Liz kills him and seizes the weapon from his corpse.
[[Image:FNP90Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 - left side view - 5.7x28mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The P90 hanging on the wall rack below the FN SCAR-L.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary searches an abandoned room with the shouldered P90.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liz reloads the P90 with a fresh magazine.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A2==
Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Emergency Response Team operators sweep the kitchen of a restaurant in Montreal, Quebec armed with [[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]s in "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S01E02). A few FBI SWAT operators are armed with the MP5A2 when they search for Elizabeth near the end of "The Stewmaker (No. 161)" (S01E04).

[[File:SWATMP5.jpg|thumb|401px|none|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight and Navy trigger group - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist E02 RCMP ERT operators a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RCMP ERT operator searches for Reddington. Note the shoulder patches, which are not official RCMP ERT patches since the agency refuses to allow film/TV production companies to use any insignia that closely resembles the official RCMP insignia unless they are paid royalties.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E04 hostage rescue.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The FBI SWAT operator holding the MP5A2 (circled in red) while searching a cabin to secure Elizabeth. (S1E04)]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
FBI SWAT operators use them as their main submachine gun throughout the season. Some of the RCMP ERT operators are armed with [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]s in "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S01E02). One is used by the Courier as his main weapon when he engages Liz and Malik in the middle of "The Courier (No. 85)". A few mercenaries working for Anslo Garrick are armed with MP5A3s that have railed handguards attached in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)" and in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion". A few MP5A3s are partially seen on the wall racks of the FBI black ops compound's armory in the former episode. Most of Reddington's own mercenaries use them as their primary weapon near the end of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion". A Syrian Embassy security guard is seen armed with the MP5A3 in the middle of "Madeline Pratt (No. 73)". Berlin agents operating in New York use the MP5A3 as their primary weapon.

[[File:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with SEF trigger group - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MP5A3RIS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with Navy trigger group, railed handguard, RIS foregrip, and M68 Aimpoint red dot scope - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:HKMP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with Surefire Weaponlight and "SD"-style stock.]]
[[File:Blacklist E02 RCMP ERT operator.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A RCMP ERT operator searches for Reddington. Note the shoulder patches, which are not official RCMP ERT patches since the agency refuses to allow film/TV production companies to use any insignia that closely resembles the official RCMP insignia unless they are paid royalties.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E04 field meeting.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FBI SWAT operator armed with the MP5A3 (circled in red) in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)" (S01E04).]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 013.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The Courier ([[Robert Knepper]]) uses an MP5A3 with a railed handguard at several points in "The Courier (No. 85)".]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 055.jpg|thumb|600px|none|FBI Special Agent Donald Ressler (Diego Klattenhoff) examining one of the Courier's MP5s when searching his home.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenaries fire their suppressed MP5A3s at FBI SWAT officers in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16).]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary opens fire with his suppressed MP5A3 when FBI SWAT officers show up at the underground parking lot.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The buttstock of the MP5A3 next to a Glock pistol.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MP5A3 with a tactical flashlight underneath the barrel on a wall rack behind Agent Mojtabai.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E10 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the MP5A3s outfitted with railed handguards and barrel suppressors in the hands of Reddington's own mercenaries as they infiltrate Garrick's observation post.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E14 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Syrian Embassy guard confronts Reddington in "Madeline Pratt (No. 73)".]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E14 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FBI SWAT operators raid a public park to search for the missing effigy.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Berlin agents secure the hijacked armored car in "Berlin (No. 8)".]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==
A [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]] can be seen in Gina Zanetakos' appartment in "Gina Zanetakos (No. 152)" (S01E06).
[[File:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Heckler & Koch MP5K with "Navy" trigger pack - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E06 022.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The MP5K is on the right.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW==
A Heckler & Koch [[MP5K-PDW]] is used by Anslo Garrick as his primary weapon, first seen in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)". At least one of the Wild Bunch mercenaries uses one when Reddington's mercenaries storm Garrick's covert observation post near the end of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion".

[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW|Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]] - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MP5K-PDW slung on his left shoulder as Garrick executes one of his wounded mercenaries.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E10 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A WB mercenary takes cover from a frag grenade attack while wielding a suppressed MP5K-PDW.]]

==Heckler & Koch UMP==
A [[Heckler & Koch UMP]] is carried by one of the RCMP ERT operators in "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S01E02). The magazine is not seen so it is not possible to determine the caliber.
[[File:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E02 033.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The UMP stock and rear sight are visible in this shot.]]

==IMI Uzi==
An [[IMI Uzi]] is used by cartel gunmen to ambush FBI agents transporting a drug cartel suspect in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)" (S01E04).

[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi with buttstock collapsed - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E04 airport ambush.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A cartel gunman opens fire with the Uzi at FBI agents in an ambush.]]

==KRISS Vector==
One of the mercenaries who participate in raiding the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)Part 1" is armed with a [[TDI Vector|KRISS Vector]] outfitted with a suppressor and ACOG. Another mercenary in Garrick's hideout in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion" is armed with a Vector outfitted with a suppressor, EOTech sight and Surefire-type vertical foregrip.

[[Image:KRISSVectorBlank.jpg|thumb|none|400px|TDI / KRISS USA Vector Blank Fire with EOTech red dot sight - .45 ACP]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E09 20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Wild Bunch mercenary leaps from the compactor of a garbage truck armed with the suppressed KRISS Vector.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E09 013.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Vector can also be seen briefly in the background whilst Garrick is talking to Reddington. Visible in this shot are the suppressor and ACOG that are fitted to the weapon.]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E10 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary on the right is armed with a suppressed Vector, which has the EOTech sight and the Surefire-type vertical foregrip.]]

==Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion==
A [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion]] is seen on the wall rack of an armory in the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Part 1".

[[Image:CZ Vz.61.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Sa. Vz. 61 Skorpion - .32 ACP.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 24.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Vz. 61 Skorpion on the wall rack next to the 92FS.]]

==Special Weapons MP-10==
One of the Wild Bunch mercenaries carries a [[Special Weapons MP-10]] fitted with a suppressor and EOTech sight in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)" (S01E09). A pair of MP-10s also appear in the armory of the FBI's black ops compound in the same episode.
[[File:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Special Weapons MP-10 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E09 24.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A WB mercenary waits for the signal to raid the black ops compound. Note the MP-10 in the rectangle.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E09 012.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The same mercenary can be seen on the left of this frame as the Wild Bunch move through the parking garage on their way into the compound. Note the suppressor and EOTech sight.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 28.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MP-10s on the wall rack of the black ops compound's armory.]]

=Assault Rifles=

==AK-47==
Public Security Police officers manning a covert Laogai at the start of "The Pavlovich Brothers (No.119-122)" are armed with AK-47s. They aren't used by the actual PSP since AK-based weapons are relegated to state-backed People's Liberation Army Militia and various reserve forces.

[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Authentic AK-47 built from US Receiver. This is an '''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film ''We Were Soldiers'' (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E19 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PSP officer prepares to secure an ambulance.]]

==AKM==
One Russian mobster near the end of "Madeline Pratt (No. 73)" is armed with what appears to be an AKM.

[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E14 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Russian mobster (in rectangle) appears to be armed with an AKM.]]

==AKS-47==
A couple of AKS-47s are seen in the hands of Russian mobsters near the end of "Madeline Pratt (No. 73)".

[[File:DeactivatedAKS(1954-59).jpg|thumb|none|400px|Type III AKS-47 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E14 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Russian mobster (in rectangle) stands guard while being armed with an AKS-47.]]

==AKS-74U==
An [[AKS-74U]] with a railed handguard is used by assassins to kill a CIA agent in Shanghai in "Wujing (No. 84)" (S01E03). Gina Zanetakos also has one in her apartment in "Gina Zanetakos (No. 152)" (S01E06). The same weapon is seen on the wall rack of an armory in the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)". Russian mobsters use them when they confront the FBI near the end of "Madeline Pratt (No. 73)". All the Pavlovich brothers use them as their main weapon in "The Pavlovich Brothers (No. 119-122).

[[File:AKS74U-RIS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AKS-74U with railed handguard - 5.45x39mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E03 007.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Note the railed handguard.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E3AR.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Receiver of the carbine.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E06 019.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The AKS-74U can be seen laying on a counter in Zanetakos' apartment.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E06 026.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Note the folded stock of the AKS-74U visible in the bottom left of this shot.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AKS-74U (in red circle) on the armory's wall rack.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E14 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Russian mobster in front is armed with an AKS-74U.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E14 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Russian mobsters open fire with their AKS-74Us at FBI SWAT operators.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E19 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Pavlovich brothers confronts Red at their hideout.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E19 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Pavlovich brothers aim his AKS-74U at Tom's Ford Mustang.]]

==Colt Law Enforcement Carbine==
[[Colt Law Enforcement Carbine]]s are used by FBI SWAT/HRT operators and other personnel instead of Colt M4A1s as their main assault rifle. One is apparently seen in an Interpol red notice profile of ex-Sudan People's Liberation Army guerrilla fighter turned bodyguard Dembe in "The Freelancer". Bomb Squad officers of the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia are armed with LE Carbines in the same episode. One Colt LE is seen with an EOTech holographic sight mounted on the upper receiver via picatinny railing in the armory of the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)". Virigina State Police Tactical Operations Team operators use Colt LE carbines near the end of "The Alchemist (No. 101)" after being summoned to deal with a hostage situation. One of the Pavlovich brothers in their Serbian hideout examines an LE Carbine at the start of "The Pavlovich Brothers (No. 119-122)"

[[File:Colt LE6920 SOCOM.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt LE6920 SOCOM Carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 068.jpg|thumb|600px|none|An armed FBI SWAT operator escorts a US Marine officer near the end of "Pilot".]]
[[File:Blackist E02 railway search.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MPDDC Bomb Squad officer armed with a LE carbine slung on his shoulder in "The Freelancer".]]
[[File:Blacklist Dembe profile photo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Interpol red notice profile has the photo of Dembe in his SPLA days in "The Freelancer".]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E03 112.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Several FBI SWAT members can be seen with Colt LE Carbines as they arrest Wujing in "Wujing (No. 84)" (S01E03). One of the rifles, seen here, is fitted with a Ballista Tactical Systems Nautilus Rotating Rail handguard.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E04 FBI agent running.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FBI Special Agent runs for cover under fire in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)".]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E06 013.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A FBI SWAT officer is armed with a Law Enforcement Carbine in "Gina Zanetakos (No. 152)" (S01E06).]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Colt LE at the FBI black ops compound's armory with the mounted EOTech holographic sight.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E10 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FBI SWAT operators move in to secure the abandoned blacksite near the end of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion".]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E12 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A VSP TOT operator aims his Colt LE Carbine in "The Alchemist (No. 101)" at a gas station in a hostage situation.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E19 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Pavlovich brothers checks the mounted ACOG sight on the LE carbine at the start of "The Pavlovich Brothers (No. 119-122)".]]

==Colt M16A2==
What is presumably a Colt M16A2 is seen on the wall rack of an armory in the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)". Abashiri Prison guards in Hokkaido, Japan are armed with M16A2s outfitted with torchlights at the start of "Mako Tanida (No. 83)" when Mako Tanida escapes from prison.

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Colt M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm. Select Fire rifle (Safe/Semi/3 round Burst Only).]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Colt M16A2 (highlighted in a red circle) hanging on the wall rack.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E16 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Abashiri Prison guard with a M16A2 slung on his back with a German Shepard hunting for Tanida. This is unusual since Colt-made firearms are not used in general issue in the Japanese law enforcement community.]]

==Enfield L22A1==
An Enfield L22A1 is seen hanging from a rack at the armory in the FBI's black ops compound after being raided in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)".

[[Image:Sa80A2-l22a2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|L22A1 w/20-round magazine and SUSAT scope - 5.56x45mm NATO.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The L22A1 hanging on the rack above the FN SCAR-L.]]

==FN SCAR-L==
A [[FN SCAR-L]] is among the many weapons owned by the Courier in "The Courier (No. 85)" (S02E05). One is seen hanging on a rack at the armory in the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)".

[[File:FN SCAR-L (Standard).jpg|thumb|450px|none|FN SCAR-L - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E05 043.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Only the rear portion of the weapon is visible so it is not possible to determine the barrel length.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The FN SCAR-L on the wall rack below the Enfield L22A1.]]

==Heckler & Koch G36K==
A Heckler & Koch G36K is seen hanging at a wall rack of an armory at the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Part 1".

[[Image:H&K-G36K.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G36K with ZF 3x4° dual optical sight - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The G36K on the wall rack above the SG 552.]]

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
A [[Heckler & Koch G36C]] is used by one of Zamani's henchmen in "Pilot". Some of the RCMP ERT operators are armed with the G36C in Montreal in "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S01E02).
[[File:G36CwForegrip.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 018.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of Zamani's henchmen opens fire with a G36C at FBI HRT officers. You can see two 30-round magazines clamped together via studs.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E02 055.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The officer entering from the left is carrying a G36C in "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S01E02).]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E02 058.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A front view of the officer's G36C.]]

==LWRC M6A2==
In a bit of continuity error, [[LWRC M6A2|LWRC M6A2s]] are used sometimes to take the place of Colt LE Carbines in various episodes in the season.

[[Image:LWRCi M6A2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|LWRC M6A2 with Crane stock, Magpul MIAD pistol grip, & PMAG magazine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 031.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Special Agent Donald Ressler aims the M6A2 during the kidnapping in the pilot episode.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E01 039.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Agent Ressler drops the M6A2 to help Keen. It appears in this shot that the M6A2 may be a rubber or a stunt replica.]]
[[File:Blacklist pilot SUV interior.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary with an M6A2 being shot by Elizabeth.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E02 005.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Two FBI HRT operators at the FBI Special Ops Division armed with M6A2s in "The Freelancer (No. 145)" (S01E02).]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E02 021.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the MPDDC Bomb Squad officers has a M6A2 slung on his shoulder.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E09 25.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meera opens fire on Garrick's mercenaries with a scoped M6A2 in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)".]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E10 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The lead Reddington mercenary storms Garrick's covert observation post in the middle of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion". It has a suppressor, riflescope, railed handguard and a Magpul-type buttstock..]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E10 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|You can see the Magpul buttstock and the riflescope attached on the picatinny railing on the rifle's upper receiver.]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E10 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another good view of the rifle with the railed handguard and the Magpul PMAG attached.]]

==SIG SG 552==
A SIG SG 552 is seen hanging on the wall rack of an armory in the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)". A Wild Bunch mercenary guarding Garrick's covert observation post is seen armed with the SG 552 before Reddington's mercenaries gun him down near the end of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion".

[[File:SIG SG 553-2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG SG 552-2, version with permanent scope rail - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E9 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SG 552 as seen in the wall rack below the G36K.]]
[[File:BlacklistS01E10 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SIG circled in red.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E10 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A WB mercenary goes down while gripping the pistol grip of his SG 552.]]

==Steyr AUG==
A Steyr AUG is seen hanging on the wall rack of an armory in the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)".

[[Image:Steyr-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Steyr AUG - Austrian Army Version - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 21.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Steyr AUG A1 (highlighted in a red circle) in the armory's wall rack.]]

=Shotgun=

==Mossberg 500 "Persuader"==
One of Reddington's mercenaries is armed with the Mossberg 500 "Persuader" near the end of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16) Conclusion" as the team infiltrates Garrick's covert observation post.

[[File:Moss500Persuader.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 500 "Persuader" (left view) with door breaching brake, folding stock and shell holder - 12 gauge.]]
[[File:BlacklistS1E10 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Reddington mercenary secures the rear of his team prior to storming the covert observation post. Note the folded stock.]]

==Remington 870==
A FBI Special Agent uses a Remington 870, but without firing it in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)". One is used by a mercenary when Anslo Garrick leads a raid on the FBI's black ops compound in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)", which consist of a short barrel, a short picatinny rail on the receiver and a M4-based stock.

[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870 with early style black synthetic riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:Remington 870 MCS MK.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870 MCS Masterkey - 12 Gauge.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E04 FBI Special Agent shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FBI Special Agent ports the Remington 870 while coming under attack in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)".]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary fires his Remington 870 at Agent Ressler's leg after being shot in the chest in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)".]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reddington slings the shotgun at his right shoulder after he fires Ressler's sidearm at the downed mercenary.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 25.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reddington opens fire with the modified Remington 870 MCS at incoming mercenaries in the FBI black ops compound.]]

==Remington 870 Slug Gun==
A FBI Special Agent uses a Remington 870 Slug Gun, but without firing it in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)".

[[Image:Remington870SlugGun.jpg‎|thumb|450px|none|Remington 870 Slug Gun - 12 Gauge]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E04 FBI agent takedown.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FBI Special Agent is shot to death by a cartel gunman in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)".]]

=Sniper Rifles=

==Remington 700PSS==
A Virginia State Police Tactical Operations Team sniper uses a Remington 700PSS near the end of "The Alchemist (No. 101)" during a hostage situation. One is seen in Tom's hideout in the middle of "Mako Tanida (No. 83)". A FBI SWAT sniper uses one near the end of "Milton Bobbit (No. 135)".

[[Image:RemingtonPSS700.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 700PSS with Leupold Mark 4 scope and Harris bipod - .300 Win Mag]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E12 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The TOT sniper aims the Remington 700PSS at the gas station's convenience store.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E16 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Remington 700PSS with the riflescope and bipod equipped.]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E17 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Keen examines a photo of the 700PSS seized by the Metropolitan Police Department as evidence near the end of "Ivan (No. 88)".]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E18 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FBI SWAT sniper takes aim with the 700PSS at Milton Bobbit near the end of "Milton Bobbit (No. 135)".]]

=Machine Guns=

==M61 Vulcan==
A US Navy Grumman F-14 Tomcat uses a M61 Vulcan as its main machine gun, seen near the end of "Berlin (No. 8)".

[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M61 Vulcan 20mm.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Tomcat prepares to take off from the runway of the USS Abraham Lincoln after receiving word that an unidentified airplane has breached New York airspace.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E21 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Tomcat chases the unregistered cargo plane after it appears over New York airspace.]]

==RPK==
The Pavlovich brothers use RPK light machine guns as their main weapon while they undergo a mission to capture Tom in the middle of "Pavlovich Brothers (No. 119-122)".

[[Image:RPK right side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK with folded bipod and 40-round magazine - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E19 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two of the Pavlovich brothers encircle a Berlin hideout while porting their RPKs.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E19 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Pavlovich brothers port an RPK.]]

=Rocket Launchers=

==FIM-92 Stinger==
Reddington oversees the selling of FIM-92 Stingers in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)". He claims that the models are an improved version of the original FIM-92.

[[Image:-0976t.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIM-92A Stinger - 70mm.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E04 arms deal Haiti.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Haitian man checks the launch tube of the FIM-92.]]

==RPG-7==
A RPG-7 is used by a cartel gunman to take out a Department of Homeland Security helicopter in "The Stewmaker (No. 161)". It's also seen in an evidence photo taken by the US military in the hands of a Taliban fighter in "The Judge (No. 57)."

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:Blacklist S01E4 RPG launcher.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The cartel gunman aims the RPG-7 via iron sights.]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E15 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A black and white photograph of a Taliban fighter armed with a RPG-7.]]

=Grenades=

==Model 7290==
A Model 7290 flashbang is used by Reddington to stun a couple of mercenaries shooting at him in "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)" during the raid on the FBI's black ops compound.

[[Image:Model 7290.jpg|thumb|none|130px|Model 7290 flashbang grenade]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reddington prepares to hurl the primed flashbang after the safety pin is removed.]]

==Smoke Grenade==
A mercenary working for Zamani hurls a smoke grenade inside the wrecked SUV in "Pilot".

[[File:Blacklist pilot smoke grenade.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A smoke grenade discharges smoke throughout the interior of the wrecked FBI Suburban SUV.]]

=Other=

==Evidence Photo==
An evidence photo examined by the FBI task force is seen in "Mako Tanida (No. 83)".

[[File:Blacklist S1E16 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The task force examines an evidence photo (middle) with an array of small arms.]]

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Talk:The Blacklist - Season 1

2015-01-19T11:08:22Z

Euromutt:

== Unknown submachine gun ==

A quick guess as to the unknown submachine gun; how about the [[MAC-10#Armscor BXP|Armscor BXP]]? [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 06:24, 4 December 2013 (EST)
:I really can't make it out well enough to tell what it is, but a BXP is pretty unlikely for a production not filmed in South Africa. Whilst looking to try and find another shot of it, I found that one of the Wild Bunch carries a Special Weapons MP-10 with an EOTech and suppressor (can best be seen when you see them all in the back of the garbage truck and again when they are moving through the parking garage immediately after the title card), and another has a TDI Vector with an ACOG and suppressor (the last person who gets out of the truck although it is blurry, seen again in the background when Garrick is talking to Red as he starts treating Ressler's leg). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:53, 4 December 2013 (EST)

The one in the armory looks like a UMP, due to the open front, the other one to me looks like PP2000, don't throw rotten things at me. More likely its a MAC or MP9 or something along those lines, no way its a BXP. The second unknown pistol looks like a rubber prop, the front seems bent, it could be they both are since they are not used, pointed at anyone close to camera etc. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:08, 4 December 2013 (EST)
:I would agree with the UMP one, it also has that similar ramped rear to the front sight. I did briefly wonder if it was an MP-10 with the flashlight hider machined off (have seen this mod and it makes it look a lot like a UMP), but a plain UMP is probably more likely. As for the PP-2000 I did briefly think this as well, particularly with how the supporting grip looks like it is holding a small vertical grip like on the PP-2000. However there are a couple of things that rule it out. Firstly, this is a pretty odd weapon choice as this has only appeared in one film, of Russian origin. To have one show up in a fleeting background role in something filmed in New York seems pretty unlikely. Secondly, if you look at the bottom of the magazine you can see that it has a sort of lip at the bottom, like a UMP mag. Lastly this has a too large an ejection port to be a PP-2000. For both the TMP/MP-9 and the MAC I would say that there is too much receiver behind the ejection port, and in the case of the TMP the ejection port is too large, and as for the MAC this gun is too rounded and doesn't have the slope at the rear of the lower receiver. I can't come up with a match though, am starting to wonder if it is a conventional layout submachine gun that the person is just grasping by the mag well of something like that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:14, 4 December 2013 (EST)
::I was sure that I saw a Vector too, but it looked too blurry that I thought it wasn't worth the time to get an image of it. Don't know if I can look through the episode again since I'll cap some images in the new episode. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 20:57, 4 December 2013 (EST)
:::I'll get a couple of image of them from Part 1 as I know where to look. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:20, 5 December 2013 (EST)

Could it be the Ekol UZI looking blank gun/gas pistol, it has appeared quite a lot in TV series and low budgets. I doubt its a real UZI ,for one there would be no reason to attach rails to it. I think the unknown mercenary rifle is either a SIG, or a FAL with an aftermarket stock, the old guy with the long hair also seemed to have the same AR type rifle as Ressler on the bridge, but with a different scope --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:47, 5 December 2013 (EST)

It really looks to me like a MAC or one of its cousins - there's a big, square part towards the back that looks like the ejection port. I've seen aftermarket kits that put a rail on top of a MAC and add a foregrip as well. [http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j331/Dolphinvet/M119mmLageright1.jpg This one is a M11 with custom after-market parts for example.] [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] ([[User talk:Atypicaloracle|talk]]) 20:08, 23 December 2014 (EST)

== Smith & Wesson 3914 ==

The S&W 3914 used in this series is an NYPD DAO Auth. gun, not a standard 3914. It has no manual safety/docker levers on either side of the frame and fires double action only. These are authorized and issued for off-duty use along with a few others. There's another shot in the episode that shows the left side of the frame with no manual safety/docker and the typical gold laser S&W logo etching. --[[User:Luckyluciano|Luckyluciano]] ([[User talk:Luckyluciano|talk]]) 23:24, 5 December 2013 (EST)
:If it is a DAO, would that not make it a 3954? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 03:53, 6 December 2013 (EST)

:No. While both the 3914 DAO and the 3954 are both DAO pistols, the 3914 DAO has a different action than that of the 3954. There is no precocking on the 3914 DAO and there is also second strike capability, unlike the 3954. The 3914 DAO double action is just like a standard 3914's double action, there's just no transition to SA with the 3914 DAO. What gives the gun in the show away as a 3914 is that it doesn't have the extended frame toward the rear. If you google an image of a 3954 and a 3914, you'll see that the rear of the frame and slide on a 3954 extends back quite a bit more than a standard 3914SA/DA or 3914DAO. The standard DA/SA 3914 and the 3914 DAO frames are identical and look just like the gun in the show. Lastly, the giveaway that it's an NYPD Auth 3914DAO is as mentioned above, the lack of safety/decocker on the left side of the frame as well and the gold laser etching. I'll try to upload the screenshot of the other side. --[[User:Luckyluciano|Luckyluciano]] ([[User talk:Luckyluciano|talk]]) 19:36, 6 December 2013 (EST)

== Unknown Assault Rifle ==

Based upon the stock and the forend, that looks like a SIG 55~variant. I would assume 556 based on the magazine.--[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] ([[User talk:Rebusdi|talk]]) 21:52, 15 December 2013 (EST)
:My gut feeling is that it is one of this SG 550/P556 hybrids:[[File:SIG 552 2tone.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG P556 SWAT with SG 550 series lower receiver and 30-round SG 550 magazine - 5.56x45mm]] To me it looks like it has the sloped front sight and that silver loop at the top of the stock hinge pin that is seen on this gun. Also, these weapons are owned by "The Specialists Ltd." prop house, and judging by some of the other less than typical guns that have appeared (like the Specialist Weapons MP-10, CZ 75 SP-01 Phantom, Solothurn ITM AT84S and the S&W 3914DOA for example) along with the fact that this show is short in NY where they are based, I would guess they provide the weapons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:02, 16 December 2013 (EST)

==Unknown==
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 26.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:Blacklist S1E09 29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Added Smith & Wesson M&P==
Aram's sidearm in both episodes of "Anslo Garrick (No. 16)" was incorrectly identified as a SIG P229; it is in fact, a S&W M&P. Trust me, I own two. Plus, in the screen caps, you can see the slide lock on the right side, and SIGs, frankly, are not southpaw-friendly. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] ([[User talk:Euromutt|talk]]) 06:08, 19 January 2015 (EST)

The Blacklist - Season 1

2012-06-10T08:54:42Z

Euromutt:

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2012-06-10T08:54:40Z

Euromutt:

Talk:Last Man Standing (1996)

2011-12-23T12:39:09Z

2011-12-05T08:18:35Z

Euromutt:

[[Image:hordeposter.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''La Horde'' (2009)]]
'''''La Horde''''' or ''The Horde'' is a 2009 French horror film, directed by Yannick Dahan and Benjamin Rocher, it stars [[Jean-Pierre Martins]] (as Ouessem), [[Eriq Ebouaney]] (as Adewale) and [[Doudou Masta]] (as Bola). It tells the story of a group of French police officers attempting to take down a group of drug dealers in retaliation for the killing of a fellow police officer. However, soon both the police and the drug dealers find themselves directly in the middle of a zombie outbreak.

NOTE: Identifying a majority of these weapons was very difficult as the movie was filmed in almost complete darkness, so even the most recognizable weapon was very difficult to identify due to lighting.
Also, for various reasons, many characters switch weapons in the course of the film, so that character X's handgun may later be seen in the hands of character Y, etc.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the film ''La Horde'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Pistols=
==Sig Sauer SIGPRO SP2022==
The police officers initially carry and use the [[SIG Pro#SP 2022|SIG Pro SP2022]], which (in 9x19mm) is the standard-issue handgun of the ''Gendarmerie Nationale'', the ''Police Nationale'' and various other French law enforcement agencies. The designation "2022" in fact refers to the year until which the French police expects to keep the gun in service. Actual police-issue models have "PROPRIETÉ DE L'ÉTAT" ("property of the state") stamped on the right side of the dust cover. Some of the minor drug dealers also carry this weapon.
[[Image:SIG-SauerP2022Pro.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG Pro SP 2022 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:hordersigpro-4.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Detective Tony ([[Antoine Oppenheim]]) with his SP2022]]
[[Image:hordersigpro-3.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Seb, a minor gang member, is seen in the background wielding a SP2002]]
[[Image:hordersigpro-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Closer shot of Seb's SP2002]]
[[Image:hordersigpro-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|José with an SP2022, possibly taken off one of the cops]]

==Beretta 92FS==
Various drug dealers carry and use the [[Beretta 92FS]]; some of the cops acquire these pistols from the dealers' stockpile.
[[Image:Beretta92F LeftSide.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92F - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:horderberetta92-3.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The lead dealer, Adewale Markuni ([[Eriq Ebouaney]]) jams his 92FS into detective Ouessem's ([[Jean-Pierre Martins]]) neck; it should be noted the placement of the finger on the trigger, though it is hard to tell if the hammer is in the firing position until...]]
[[Image:horderberetta92-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px| ...detective Jimenez ([[Aurélien Recoing]]) falls into the line of sight of the 92FS and here you can see hammer is in the firing position and the finger is on the trigger]]
[[Image:horderberetta92-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Aurore ([[Claude Perronas]]) with her 92FS]]

==Beretta 92FS Inox==
The female officer known as Aurore ([[Claude Perronas]]) takes a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with masking tape wrapped around the grip from the dealer's stockpile and uses it for the rest of the film.
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:hordeberettainox-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Aurore with her Inox, note the tape wrapped around the grip]]
[[Image:hordeberettainox1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Adewale realizes Aurore has an Inox pointed at his head]]

==Beretta 93R==
Adewale's brother Bola ([[Doudou Masta]]) uses a [[Beretta 93R]], with a custom barrel weight/compensator.
[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 93R - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:horde93mock-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Bola aims his Beretta 93R.]]
[[Image:horde93mock-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Close-up shot of the 93R.]]

==Colt M1911A1==
Detective Ouessem ([[Jean-Pierre Martins]]) uses a [[Colt M1911A1]] akimbo with a Walther P99 towards the climax; José Greco ([[Jo Prestia]]), one of the drug dealers, also carries a nickel-plated model with pearl grips.
[[Image:Colt1911A1PreWar.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Pre-War Colt M1911A1 Pistol Commercial - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:hordem1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Ouessem loads up an M1911A1 from the concierge's closet]]
[[Image:hordedual2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Ouessem holds his M1911A1 and a Walther P99.]]
[[Image:NickelM1911.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Colt M1911A1 Pistol that was '''bright nickel''' plated by the owner (with Pearl grips) - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:hordem1911-4.jpg|thumb|none|550px|José holds his nickel plated M1911A1.]]
[[Image:hordem1911-3.jpg|thumb|none|550px|José holds his nickel plated M1911A1.]]
[[Image:hordem1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|José holds his nickel plated M1911A1.]]

==Walther P99==
Ouessem is seen using a [[Walther P99]] along with a Colt M1911A1 akimbo.
[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P99 - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:hordedual2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Ouessem holds his M1911A1 and a Walther P99.]]

=Shotguns=

==Remington 870==
Detective Jimenez carries a [[Remington 870]] with a pistol grip, side saddle, and a rail mounted above the ejection port, which is later briefly picked up by one of the dealers.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolded.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with stock folded - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:horderemington870-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Jimenez with the Remington 870.]]

==Mossberg 500==
The man known as "the concierge" ([[Alain Figlarz]]) is seen carrying a [[Mossberg 500]] with a wood stock, blued finish, and extended magazine; he carries it but never gets a chance to use it.
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:hordemossberg500-3.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The concierge with his Mossberg 500.]]

==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==
Adewale uses a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] for most of the film.
[[Image:Mossberg500Cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:hordemossberg500-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Adewale with his Mossberg 500 Cruiser.]]
[[Image:hordemossberg500-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Aiming the 500 Cruiser one handed, bad idea if it was fired like this.]]

==Double Barreled Shotgun==
Tony finds a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] on a corpse, but only uses it once, and then only as a club.
[[Image:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|450px|1960s Era Commercial Stevens hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:hordedoublegun-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The Double Barreled shotgun in the hands of a corpse.]]
[[Image:hordedoublegun-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Tony with his Double Barreled Shotgun.]]

=Sub-Machineguns=

==MAT-49==
Aurore uses a [[MAT-49]] towards the end of the film.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|MAT-49 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:hordemat49-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Aurore loads up a magazine into the MAT-49.]]
[[Image:hordemat49-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Aurore with the MAT-49.]]

=Machineguns=

==Modified AA-52==
René ([[Yves Pignot]]), an Indochina veteran living in the apartment building, finds a belt-fed machinegun in the concierge's apartment that is a [[MAS AA-52]] with a barrel (or barrel jacket) taken from a [[Browning M1919]]A4.
[[Image:hordemg-4.jpg|thumb|none|550px|René finds the machinegun, in a closet.]]
[[Image:hordemg-3.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Taking aim with the machinegun.]]
[[Image:Lahorde-mg5.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The muzzle flash provides some illumination, revealing the receiver to be that of an AA-52.]]
[[Image:hordemg-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Another shot of the weapon.]]
[[Image:hordemg-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Another shot of the weapon.]]

=Explosives=

==MK II Grenade==
René also uses a [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]
[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 "Pineapple" High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:hordermk2-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The pin is pulled and the lever has popped.]]
[[Image:hordermk2-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The zombie will never know what hit him.]]

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La Horde

2011-12-05T07:39:19Z

Euromutt: /* Sig Sauer SIGPRO SP2022 */

MAS AA-52

2011-12-05T07:33:54Z

2011-06-26T11:06:18Z

Euromutt: /* DShK heavy machine gun? */

==OTHER==
That's Norman Reedus with the crossbow. He plays Daryl Dixon, who was not in the actual comic that I can recall. I like that though, he's a cool actor. I'm also a little bummed that they didn't use the guns drawn in the comics. Rick uses a HK mk.23. For those of you who might think that it's impossible to tell that from the comic the artist wrote HK MK.23 on the barrel. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:I read some where that the Walker are attracted to loud noises. that might be why he is carrying a crossbow

It is smart to use a crossbow; because it saves on bullets and in most all undead literature and movies the undead always react and swarm when they hear a gunshot. Very good show, have never read the comic but look forward to.-GoshMr.Peabody

It's pretty amazing. I recommend buying the trade paperbacks. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Whoa==
I loved the comic, when the hell did it get a tv show?

The idea was revealed a while ago. It comes out on Halloween. -SasquatchJim

honestly , its like two hours till the show ,i cant wait. simmons 8492

Well it kept my interest. I'll watch it again next week to see if it can maintain the momentum.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

honestly it took some time to realy get things going , but now hes in a populated zone with other survivers . and if i was him id start that tank up! simmons 8492

I coulda sworn the 50 on that tank was still loaded with ammo and in the next scene, it had no ammo [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Just watched it again. The .50 on the tank doesn't appear to be loaded, but there's another one in a sandbag fort that is, in the foreground as he goes by. -IGemini 04:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

iv watched it from the start and i have to say its great simmons 8492

== Crappy dialogue ==

In the trailer, one of the cops told the other to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off. First off, the man he was talking to, had a Glock, so no safety. And since he's a trained cop, ready to open fire on a suspect that's hostile, why wouldn't he have a round in the chamber and his gun ready to go? That line just threw me off [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, just watched it. Its brilliant, easily as good as the comic. The 'crappy dialogue above does jar a little tho. Hes telling him to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off as it is implied the officer in question is a bit useless, however after doing a brass check the officer in question then presses down on the slide release (even tho the slide is forward) as if to pretend it is the saftey catch. Morgan has a 5 shot snub revolver (which someone else will have to identify as im not too good with em). Rick pull a 92fs (standing in for an m9) from a dead soldiers shoulder holster at the end of the episode, and i'm fairly sure the SIG is a tutone P228 or 229 not a P239 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

:Maybe Basset is so damn useless that he hasn't even figured out that Glocks don't come with manual safeties... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:28, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

The funny thing about the thing with the safety is that you can hear the sound of a safety being click off.--[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 04:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Remember that the dialogue was written long before it was decided the cop would be holding a Glock(unless the writer is Michael Mann). So maybe the round in the chamber thing may have been unwarranted, but maybe he was a rookie, he did seem sort of skittish. Regardless, it's unfair to call ''that'' crappy dialogue. I think you're letting your knowledge of guns get in the way of enjoying good stories.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 04:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Dont know if its worth noting, but the cop he tells that too, is actually, the first zombie he ends up shooting, after leaving the police station. Rick commented he was careless and dumb, so reminding him, makes sense.

And, of course, Rick committed a cardinal sin; he referred to a magazine as a clip :P -SasquatchJim

I'm not surprised, Sasqatch. The cop I talked to called his Glock 17 a "Glock 9". I'm sure he would have said clip to. Not all cops are into guns. Haha

==SIG P239==

[[Image:WalkingDead-SIGP239.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P239 at police.]]

This doesn't look like a P239 to me; more like a P226 or P228. It's too big, and it has nickel controls (which the two-tone P239s don't have). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:P228 because of the slide length. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::Remember, on low resolution screencaps like the ones I had to use, feel free to correct the Gun IDs. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
::: Watching the scene I agree that it is somewhat larger. Sounds fine to me - I'll change it. The first episode was pretty good. I'm adding a Beretta 92FS (M9) entry - Grimes indeed takes one off a 'dead' soldier inside the Abrams tank he gets into, as noted by the above section. Also, I never did get a good glance at the snub revolver, though I'm fairly certain it's a S&W. They're replaying the show so I'll keep an eye for it, and some of the other guns. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

==Spoiler Comment and Morgan's Revolver==
Its nice to see the page updated but arn't some of the descriptions (mainly the colt python) a bit spoilerific for anyone who hasn't watched it yet? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Whoa, yes they are, I sure as hell didn't add those. :b I'll reword them somewhat. Also! The revolver Morgan uses is a Snub S&W Model 66, I can almost guarantee it. Bah, wish I could get screencaps. Still, I'll add that as well. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 04:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure its a 66? I remember it having a 5 round cylinder --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I grabbed this off my skyplus box so sorry bout the quality [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2i700fm.jpg[/IMG] Any use, its definatly a 5 shot--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: I could have ''sworn'' it was a S&W. But it's definitely not a Model 66, since there's no rear adj. sights, nor of course a 6-shot cylinder. But Smith snubbie J-frames (5-shot) all have flat 'bull-nose' ejector rod shrouds, not curved. Bah, now I'm kinda stumped. My best guess at this point would probably be a [[Ruger SP101]]. Convert that image there to JPG and upload it on the site. It's not great, but it's better than nothing. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

::Looks like it could also be either the [[Taurus Model 617]] or possibly a stainless steel [[Taurus Model 85]]. Biu it is difficult.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

From the barrel it looks like an early Taurus Model 85 in stainless or nickel plated. It was a five shot cylinder definitely.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: After posting I did consider it being a Taurus, many of them are awfully S&W looking to begin with. I doubt it's a 617 but it easily could be an 85. Hell, could be anything for all I know at this point. I guess it'll just be another 'unidentified' until we get more/better screencaps. I'll modify the S&W 66 entry I posted and just call it un-ID'd snub revolver, noting the 5-shot capacity and stating the possible choices. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I am almost certain it is actually a Ruger SP101, two inch model. No other snubbie, as far as I know, has the upper rear of the frame shaped into a rear sight notch like the SP101, as both of those Taurus models just lack rear sights - you can check the Taurus website as both models lack a "rear sight" category under specifications. Also, if you check out the behind the scenes vid [http://www.amctv.com/originals/The-Walking-Dead/?bclid=625294007001&bcpid=111717822001&bctid=628200502001 here], there is a pretty decent side shot of the revolver. The general shape is very close to a SP101, and even from the front, the lines on Morgan's triggerguard and barrel are cut much closer semi-melted look on the SP than the very sharp ones on a Taurus oR S&W.

All said, the easiest way to tell would be if they showed the damned cylinder release at some point. --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 07:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC) (Corrected typo --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 02:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC))

: It's not an SP101. The recoil shield shown is a simple traditional shape, not the bulkier contours Rugers have in that part of the frame. Also, the ejector rod shroud is cut back more sharply from the muzzle, and the revolver in the show seems to lack the small hole on the front of the frame for the front crane lock. [[User:Rule .303|Rule .303]] 14:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Judging by the screens uploaded I'd say definately not a 617, 617 is a 7-shot, also can't see a ported barrel. Still think it's a Taurus though. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

If you watch the Making of the Walking dead Season 1 it shows the side of the revolver.. Looks exactly like the Ruger SP101 from Breaking Bad. I'm guessing its the same prop. (Just like I think the RV is. )

== What kind of tank was that? ==

Its oviously a stand-in for an M-1 but I'm not sure what it is. I'm thinking possibly a Chieftain, but I'm not sure. Also, note that a real M-1 woulnd't have worked for the scene since it lacks the floor escape hatch.

-AC.

:I'm also reasonably certain the 82nd Airborne Division doesn't have tanks in their TO&E, yet the (un)dead soldier in the tank had an 82nd patch on his left shoulder. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:32, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

At this point I'm not sure, but I do suspect it's the same tank that shows up in ''[[Zombieland]]''. Both shows are filmed in Georgia and the voice-over commentary on ''Zombieland'' states that the tank is owned by a private collector.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Definately a Chieftain.

: I concur, Chieftains are often used (mocked-up) as stand-ins for Abrams tanks. I also noticed the bottom escape hatch, which as far as I can recall, indeed isn't on an actual Abrams. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

''Other comments posted on main page-''

(Perhaps it is just me, but the Abrams featured in this appears to be a mocked up British Chieftain Tank, I didn't get a good look at the tank but it didn't seem to be a genuine Abrams, although it could simply be an older pattern M1 without the TUSK upgrade, reactive armor and the more apparent loaders hatch. Yet that would not explain the escape hatch.- Doc345)

Older M1s didn't look that diffrent, from the later ones, aside from the most recent upgardes.

Also, the angle of the frontal turret armor is wrong to be an M1.

I think this may be the same tank which appeared in, among other series, Jericho. The vehicle, if I remember correctly, is built on an old Centurion chasis to resemble an Abrams with some obvious differences. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

On a random note, where was a Striker seen in the episode? It says on the page that there was one with a fifty cal on it, but aside from the tank, the only other military vehicles I saw where some HMMWVs, what looked like a deuce, and a half, and some abandone Hueys.

Intrestingly, in the trailor, the one Rick first sees after leaving the hospital lacked a rotor blade making me think it was edited in post-production. Also, the one off to Ricks left appears to still be lacking one.

-AC

at the begging seen when the main cerictor walkes out of the hospital he sees a ebandoned military equpent you can see a Stryker IFV --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 21:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
heres a picture
[[Image:The walking dead.png]]

I can say without a doubt that the 'M1' ''is'' a Chieftain, not a Centurion. The long sloping frontal 'nose' armour, the front idler wheel and the lockers/storage bins are features of the Chieftain, not the Centurion. Not too sure about the 'escape hatch' though. I wonder if this is the same 'M1' that appears in the 2010 remake of Red Dawn? It looks the same to me. [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]

*Naw, that one they've actually made some modifications to like building up the hull and turret to be more Abrams-like and putting an M1-style bulge over the cylindrical fume extractor. This is just a Chieftain with a fake M2 awkwardly perched on top of the hatch weapon mounting. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:07, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

== Things I noticed ==

Did anybody else notice that when Morgan cocked the hammer back on his gun and threatened to shoot Grimes if he didn't talk, the cylinder didn't advance to the next chamber like it should?

And what about Grimes' personal arsenal in his backpack? Is it safe to assume that rubber/resin mockups? He was getting bounced pretty hard by that horse and the guns kept bumping him in the back. That's at least 40 pounds of gear to be carrying around.

More than safe to assume that. Most of them even appeared to have solid barrels. Probably rubber.--[[Special:Contributions/99.48.50.70|99.48.50.70]] 04:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

The cylinder did rotate, I remembered that happening when I watched the scene. As far as the bag -o- guns, I have no idea. If they were all rubber, they were modeled after some hard to find shotgun configurations and looked very real. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 20:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

According to Grimes in episode 3 his duffle bag was holding six shotguns, two "high powered" rifles, a dozen handguns, and 700 rounds of assorted ammo. That's easily 80-90 pounds of gear. There's no way Grimes could be carrying that around in one hand with a gas can in the other. Or getting bucked and having the bag sag to the side and the stuff not come falling out.

Did anybody else notice that Dale seemed to switch between carrying a rifle with a sling, to carrying one without a sling between scenes?

== I rewatched the first episode. ==

Two of the Sheriffs deputys from the neighboring county had shotguns. One looked like and 870 Remington. The other looked like a Mossberg.

The gun used to shoot Rick, I'm pretty sure was either 1911, or a Glock. It seemed to have an extended slide.

-AC

:: I noticed the shotguns too but it was hard to get a decent look at them, mainly the second one (Mossberg I guess). I will concur at least one of the other shotguns was indeed a standard 870. No idea what the pistol is/was. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Almost positive the other two deputys, from the neighboring county had Glocks, like the other deputys from Ricks department.

You can see one of the shotguns fairly well, after Rick gots shot, one of the two deputys joins Shane in trying to help Rick. Like Shane, he drops his gun, and it can be seen fairly well.

Looking at the pick on here, I'm more positive than ever that the last gunmans weapon was a 1911.
Good eye on my part, since it was litreally visible for like less than a second.-AC.

==Andrea's gun==
I believe Andrea is packing a Smith and Wesson 3913 Ladysmith [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:I concur. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

Here's a good picture. http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-2-rick-andrea.php
[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:: I also agree about it being a 3913 Ladysmith. We also saw a M67 'baseball' grenade in this latest episode (actually the training version, you could still spot some blue paint on it). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== What kind of rifle did Meryl have? ==

Looked like possibly a Model 70, but I'm bad at identifing bolt actions.
-AC

Seriously, does anyone know what kind of rifle he had?-AC

Compare the bolt heads (or whatever the end of the bolt closest to the butt is called); the Remington 700 seems to have more of a protruding portion, while the Mod. 70 is tucked in and more square-like.

At least, that's what it seems like. There used to be a generic page for comparing Bolt-Action Rifles, like the shotguns have now. Where did that page go?

Here it is.

[[Bolt Action Rifles - Most common Sporting Models|Scoped Bolt Action Hunting Rifles]]. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

==Shane's Pistol==
Can anyone identify the pistol Shane is carrying? It looks like either a Glock or possibly a Sig Pro. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Probally a Gock. There very common cop guns, in both hollywood, and real life. Also, severael of the cops, at opening shootout had them, so evedently the prophouse they went to had some.
-AC

Definitely a Glock. Although it's only shown briefly, it looks like a 17. He carries it in a thumb break holster.

Picture of him holding it: http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-4-carl-lori-shane-morales.php

After looking at the screenshot on the main page, can anyone identify the holster?

In the finale you can see its a Glock 19. Not 17. (Also the firing M4s looked like they had blank firing adapters as flashiders)

==Merle==

It's Merle not Maryl or Marle

==Guts==
I really like how Rick actually checks the dead soldier's vest for more ammo instead of just taking the weapon like every other film. I also like how when his Beretta runs dry he doesn't toss it away like some generic action hero but he keeps it and stows it in Glenn's backpack. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that was good stuff. Have yet to see the Beretta again though. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:Did you also notice that his [[Colt Python]] is still in his hoslter even though he ran out of ammo for it? I liked that touch as well. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

You never know what you might find ammo for at a latter date.-AC
::Which he does in the third episode. Anyway Python's are too expensive to be tossing away on a whim. Even after the Zombie Apocalypse has happened. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

If I recall right they've been outta production since the late 90s.

::The last Python was manufactured approximately six years ago. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Still outta production than. If I recall right, for a while it was outta generael production, but could be special ordered.

Yes the last five or six years it had to be ordered through the custom shop.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

The Python, and The Anaconda, where the best revolvers Colt made since the SAA imho-AC

IMO, the Official Police and Detective Special should be included as well. -SasquatchJim

Too bad that still fully loaded .50 next to the tank is too heavy to take back [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

If he can walk and ride a horse with a 90lb bag on his back like its nothing, he could carry a M2.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

And he brought buddies with him to GET that bag he left behind. They can lug around an M2 with ammo. Sure it doesn't look like there's any extra, but it's an M2 with AMMO! [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

But honestly, what would be the purpose, in this story? I mean, they're already getting guns and ammo, and it's not like you need a lot of penetration to kill a zombie, so they don't really need a .50 caliber machinegun. All it would really do was kill a couple of zombies while making a shitload of noise, attracting every zombie in a mile radius. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 05:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

: I bet one would've come in handy on top of the camper during the attack on the camp. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 04:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::Possibly (I posted that before I saw that episode, sorry.), though I doubt any of them have any training or even any practice with military grade machine guns, and so I'm betting that during the chaos of the attack, they would have killed more of their own people. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 02:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
::: Woulda been kinda hard to use that thing in the dark, too, since the only source of light is that campfire. Scoring headshots on zombies without friendly fire in a situation like that? No way even TV-land can pull THAT one off.

Talking about scavenging guns, even when they were rushing back to the vehicles in front of the CDC wouldn't it have been a good idea to at least grab a couple of the discarded weapons lying around out front?

==Vatos==
Ok, tonight I think I've seen a S&W model 10, a Colt Detective Special, and possibly a S&W mosel 28 in the hands of the mexican gangsters and it looks like T-Dog was using a BAR. The bag had some Sigs and Glocks and Daryl had a Remington 870 and I think that Rick is using a Mossberg 590 not a 500. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Just so everyone knows, I didn't edit the page tonight, I just wrote on here. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Daryl took at least one Sig from the bag. T-Dog used a Mossberg later, but I think his scoped rifle was a BAR. The shotty Glenn ended up with, looked the same as Daryl's. Also, Shane drew his pistol at one point, but it was hard to see.-AC
==Daryl's Crossbow==
Daryl Dixon's crossbow is a Horton Scout HD 125: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2817217&cid=CSE:GoogleProductSearch. In the fourth episode "Vatos", when Daryl points it a T-dog on the roof you can see the faded Horton logo on the front. Scout 125 can be seen above the trigger after the camera angle changes.

::Picture added and changes made. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Was that an XD? ==

The handgun, that Daryl takes from the bag of guns. At first I thought it was a SIG, but after rewatching it, I think it may have been a Springfield Army XD.
-AC

Nope, definitely a bi-tone Sig of some kind.

Yeah, the XDs don't have all that stuff on the side of the gun and the slide is actually more Glock like than the more rounder Sig slides [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) inspects a bi-tone Sig Sauer handgun from his bag of guns.]]

- ZeoRanger5 17:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

that looks like a SIG-sauer P226 or P228. simmons 8492

I agree with simmons 8492, i'd say p228 myself.

How did you think that was an XD?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 14:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Not sure. When I stuck it in his waistband, it looked like a combination between a Sig, and a Glock. As far as handguns go, I'd say the XD is closest to that description. Course I was rather sleep deprived at the time.-AC

i also think that in episode 5 shane pulls what looks to be a sig when the sister is coming back to life . im not sure because i know shane has a glock but this isnt in the holster , its carried mexican style and is only seen for seconds. can some one verify ?[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Rick also pulls a gun carried similarily in that scene. Ricks looked like a Glock.

but shanes looks more like a sig or something .[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Some ones gotta move that pic into the 228 spot.[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

:It's not a P228. The screencap doesn't show it well, but I checked the episode again, and it's possible to see that it has the squared trigger guard of the P226, rather than rounded, as on a P228. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

==Faking recoil==

Its a littlle overdone but nice to see it (a HP in 9mm doesnt kick as much as shown, but its better than most shows, and handling is pretty good or tv.

may be because he hasent realy fired a 9mm in a while he wasnt use to it or because hes used to the revovler

That makes no sense, .357 Magnum (I'm guessing thats what is loaded) has alot more kick, if he can handle a .357 than he could easily handle a 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 23:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

and im sure that a python has more kick than that highpower . and being that he killed a hand full of zombies with that in the first episode it wont matter .-[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

:Just a FYI, its Hi Power, not High Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

/AUA

Since most people don't know the distinction between a Hi-Power and a Colt M1911, and the show is known to have certain..flaws when it comes to reality, they could have just been assuming that it was a .45, and Hollywood logic states that if it's larger than 9mm, it makes your wrist fly up and sends bad guys flying.

Or it was just because they wanted Rick to seem cool with a stainless steel firearm (like his Colt Python, which he points at other survivors so often, it could be a drinking game).

But being seriously, this is the same show where Glocks have external, slide-mounted safeties in the US and headshots can be made off-hand with a sidearm at 50 meters while running.

AUA/

:I haven't been able to watch the series only the first episode (no cable) but... The Python is a heavy revolver and could be loaded with .38 Specials. Also with the Hi-Power being a semi-auto and able to shoot more rapidly. Would have more perceived recoil. Seeing guys on YouTube handle .45s with very little recoil, it's shotguns and full auto rifles where movies get recoil wrong. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

==DShK heavy machine gun?==

I believe there was an abandoned DShK heavy machine gun flanked by sandbags when they headed towards the CDC building by the looks of the muzzle. (This was the best episode so far, I think.) - Angel_956

Most likely a mocked up M2 but I definatly saw that distinct muzzle brake.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I added a cap but you cannot really tell one way or another if it is a mock up or not. Either way...it makes no sense for it to be there in the first place!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why would an outdated Soviet Union machine gun even be in the show, but it might be cleared up in the next episode. I clearly remember the guy in the CDC building saying something about some French soilders, I think. If so it might of meant that there was an international response to the zombie outbreak, trying to control it, explaining the DShK. [[User:Angel_956|Angel_956]]

:Now your just over-analyzing, it's in all likeliness what they used because it's what was available to use when they were shooting the scene. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

:Maybe somebody "requisitioned" (read: looted) it from the National Infantry Museum or Fort Benning; both are in or around Columbus, GA, which isn't exactly close to Atlanta, but it's the closest place I can think of where you might plausibly find a DShK. When you need more HMGs, you grab what's available. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 20:18, 24 June 2011 (CDT)

Weird though, since they obviously had M2s available for filming.-AC

:Not necessarily. Armorers can change during filming and weapons may not be available even though they were previously. Also remember that only the first episode had the M2 so the armorer could have changed since then. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

::Actually, those M2HBs are still there in episodes 2 ("Guts," when Grimes escapes from the tank) and 4 ("Vatos," when Glenn goes to retrieve the Bag O' Guns) and they pass at least two M2HBs on the way to the CDC's front door after they pass the DShK. They weren't just there for the pilot. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 09:18, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

My thought was militia that made a last stand with the army to protect the people gathering at the CDC (notice the weapon is surrounded by bodies in civilian clothes), the DShK having been purchased by one of the members (legitimately or otherwise) and subsequently put to use following the outbreak. - Wolfblade670

== Daryl's knife ==

In the third episode, when Daryl is told about his brother, he attacks Rick with some sort of hunting or combat knife. He's later seen with it in a sheath on his left thigh, and you get a fairly close (But very brief) look at it when they're walking through the building at the beginning of the forth episode. Anyone have any clue what it is? I mean, from the brief glimpse I got of it in the forth episode, it looked like it was possibly a TOPS Steel Eagle 107C, the same kind of knife that the character Royce had sheathed in Predators, but I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm, or give an alternative? [[User:Acora|Acora]] 07:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== What kind of gun did he give Morales? ==

He said it was a .357, but I have no idea what it was.-AC

/AUA

He held it in his hand for a profile shot; maybe you should try screencapping it at that point and going from there. There should be an ID for it though, unlike Morgan's snubnose.

AUA/

I lack the equipment needed to screencap.-AC

/AUA

Use IrfanView (freeware) or the PrtScn button on your computer (press it on the frame you want to capture, and then paste it into Paint to crop it).

AUA/

I think it's a Smith and Wesson 586 [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

== Rick's second shotgun.==

After Rick gives the 590 (it wasn't a 500, someone should change that) to Guillermo, he uses one with an 18 inch barrel, a blued type finish and wood furniture. I think some people commented on it being a Mossberg, but it has a rounded bolt like a Remington 870. However, it's not an 870 since the trigger guard isn't round enough, the magazine tube is longer than the standard 4 shot tube, and it doesn't have an extension attached, and the wood furniture has a single rib on the side for gripping. After doing some research, my best guess is that it's an earlier H&R Pardner Pump, possibly in some sort of police configuration. I know it's neither a Mossberg or a Remington, though.

It's indeed an H&R Pardner Pump. The humpback receiver is unmistakable. [Ballistics_Expert2]

/AUA

I'd PrtScn/screencap the shotgun in question before making any comparisons. We still haven't definitively IDed Dale's bolt-action, so maybe you should get one of that as well.

AUA/

We still have Merles bolt-action as well.
-AC

This cap from the page will suffice:

[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Remigton, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]

And a link to a Pardner Pump configured similarly:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj131/TRguy/Guns/NEFPardnerPumpYouth8-12-10.jpg

A few things distinguishing the shotgun in the picture as a Pardner Pump as opposed to an 870, 500 series, or whatever:

-Some type of thin rib on the top of the barrel.
-The foregrip has the distinctive groove in it as seen on the Pardner Pump.
-The agnle that the receiver curves at the butt end is a sharper angle rather than a bend type (you can tell by the shadow).
-The magazine tube is longer than a 4 shot, but it's not screwed on like other models, nor does the endcap and barrel link resemble that of other models.

Some other things that you can't notice in the picture, like the flatter trigger guard or a good shot of the angled receiver, are seen in the series very easily, namely in Episode 5 during Rick and Shane's patrol, when this cap takes place, and one instance in Episode 6 where the doctor is drawing blood and the gun is sitting behind Rick as he waits. This good enough? --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 10:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

::I think you're right, it's not a Remington, Mossberg, or a Winchester. It looks like a Pardner, more like the Pardner pump compact, due to the shorter barrell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

-Rick's first shotgun was a 500 with the extended tube. It didn't have the bayonet lug, just check some of the promo pics on imbd.com - [[User:MarkXIX|MarkXIX]]

Ah, so it is, I could have sworn I saw the 590s tube cap on it. I can notice a buncha stuff on an H&R, but I get that wrong, lol. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 17:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

==Think its funny==

Rick misses several close range shots (so do long gun toting officers) in the beginning against chase suspects, then later in series hes nailing headshots left and right....

Noticed that too, although zombies don't shoot back. They just charge straight ahead.

/AUA

It's a screenplay-direction thing. The show is already a bit overdramatized in general, so little things like the 'clip' and 'safety' dialogue or the headshot ratio aren't really all that important to the screenwriters, at least not compared with inserting dramatic bits into it.

AUA/

When the police were shooting the chase suspects, their targets were live people. An accurate marksman or not, if you're not used to firing live rounds at live humans your subconscious may not want you to hit that kill shot. Zombies are different.

also he has had weeks of shooting live targets ie the zombies so he as probaly leared to shot them really well --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:21, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

/AUA

Unless you're superhuman, you can't learn how to make a shot that is off-hand, behind you, at a 1.5 x 1 ft target at 50 meters, while RUNNING, in a few weeks. Few people would be able to make that shot, period. The gate-zombie shots were just...unfeasible.

AUA/

*Well it is a show about the dead walking around and eating the flesh of the living. I'm willing to overlook the amazing skill that Rick displays with headshots.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:28, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

==Question about Shane's shotgun technique==
Just a question for those who may know, is it considered proper technique to hold the gun that high on the shoulder, with his cheek resting on the receiver? I figuered it was an adjustmant made due to the M4-style stock, as Rick and other survivors wielding unmodified weapons don't do this.

: I noticed that too, I figured it was just the actor's preference (possibly due to inexperience) but I guess it could be because of the M4 stock. I dunno. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 01:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

:It's standard practice in the US military. They teach you to ride the stock high so that your sights are level with your eyes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 13:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thats with the M16/M4, not a shotgun.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

:the stock on the shotgun is a Knoxx Industries SpecOps NRS Shotgun Stock

::My dad has one on his 870.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

-i noticed that . i dont think that stock has a single thing to do with it . it probably prefrances [[user:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

==Series Finale==

I noticed a nickel finished pistol tucked into Daryl's waistband mexican style early on in the episode, looked like a SIG.
I'm thinking that Daryl's pistol was probably the same Hi-Power Rick took off merle in episode 2.

Does any one else think the grenade description is a bit of a spoiler as it is a deus ex machina. I suggest only saying it is used in episode 6 and not how. I know this has absoloutely nothing to do with firearms but i loved the ax decapitation amidst the headshots at the end --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

:The grenade wasn't a deus ex machina, but a textbook example of Chekhov's gun. He found it in the first episode even. It would have been a deus ex machina if they found it there.(I expected him to actually bring it out against the guys in the city in episode 3, myself)--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 08:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, New guy here. When Jenner allows the the others to enter the facility at the start of the episode, he's seen holding an M4, and he mentions that "There're a lot of these lying around. I familiarized myself." And yet, none of the others ever even think of finding a couple of the guns for themselves. Shame, considering a couple of those and a few mags would've come in pretty handy outside (especially if there was a suppressor to be found) Anyone else bugged by this?

They've been sitting outside for like a month. The M4 is a fine, gun, but you need to clean it regularly.-AC

:Only if your in the desert sand, sitting around like that outside would be fine but not how I would store my guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I was definitely bugged by this fact. Supposedly a lot of M4s and 30 round magazines lying around, and Jenner's the only guy who has one. But then again the supply of ammo might've been low, considering everything that'd happened. [[Ballistics_Expert2]]

first off all there are no M4A1`s seen inside all out side wicth iswere he probily got it second they were only out side for a few momints ehter runing away from the bulding or trying to get in before they are over welbed with zombies tird as he said ammo is preety rare as you can see when they are out side there are hunderdes of dead zombies witch had to be killed by something --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 19:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== To Do List. ==

1. Shotguns used by deputies in opening shootout.
2. Morgans revolver.
3. Merles rifle.
4. The guns, Rick, and Shane pull after Amy turns.
5. The gun given to Morales.
6. Daryls handgun.
7. Whether Shanes Glock is a 17 or 19.
8. Whether Ricks first shotty was a 500 or a 590.
9. Ricks second shotty.

I miss anything?-AC

==Short Season Huh?==

At least season 2 will be twice as long, whenever they get around to making it.....

At least there will be a seaon two, I thought this was a miniseries at first and was very dissapointed that it was over so soon. [[Special:Contributions/67.187.27.89|67.187.27.89]] 01:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

It's definately already in production. Normally when a series gets picked up production on the second season gets rolling ASAP. This became a pretty popular show, show I'm guessing AMC got the ball rolling right away when they realized they had demand for the show. Anyone here read the graphic novel series? I want to try and get into it but want to know if it's worth the time and money--[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 05:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

They really are worth it. I buy the trade paperbacks, they are like $12.00 a book. There are 13 of them up to now. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Personaaly i prefer the graphic novels. Dont get me wrong i love the series, but the comics are much more grim and dark, in the series everyone seems to be more willing to get along and its more zombie orientated, the comics are much more grim, its about the characters and in the comic no characters are safe, even mainstay ones. The tv series feels slightly more commercialised and main characters have outlived their comic book life already. I do love the tv version, and darly dixion is the best non comic character creation to be added to the series, I just hope Carl gets a gun next series, that said and cant belive i have to wait till october to see series 2.- Captain Snikt [[Special:Contributions/109.157.4.163|109.157.4.163]] 23:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Popular Cop Guns ==
An answer above said that the Glock was "a very common cop gun, in both hollywood, and real life." This is true, but I was wondering if their were any other cop guns in hollywood and in real life that are as popular as the Glock.--[[User:MarineCorps1|MarineCorps1]] 21:49, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The Beretta 92 is the only one that comes to mind for me. -SasquatchJim.

:There aren't too many police depts issuing the Beretta 92F anymore, even though Hollywood still shows them being carried by cops. Anyway, Glock holds just under 2/3rds of the U.S. law enforcement market, SIG-Sauer holds about 1/3rd, and a number of other makes (S&W, H&K, Beretta, etc.) are constantly fighting each other for what's left. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

SIG-Sauer P226, S&W M19/66, AR-15, and many more... --[[User:nkingman|nkingman]]

Ah, that's right.
Some older ones include the S&W Model 10, S&W Model 28, Colt Trooper, and a 12 gauge pump shotgun (namely a Remington 870.)
Another new one is the S&W M&P -SasquatchJim

There was once a time when the S&W Model 15/67, the S&W Model 13/65. Colt Official Police, Ruger Six Series revolvers, the S&W Model 19/66 and the Colt Lawman/Trooper Mk III were also very popular Cop revolvers.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:40, 28 March 2011 (CDT)

== Flash suppressor on M4A1 ==

Did anyone else notice the flash suppressor on the M4A1 held by the soldier that gets grabbed is different than normal?
:I thought it was a nongun.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.179.105|129.89.179.105]] 01:22, 19 December 2010 (UTC)(thePotShot)
::Just for reference,
::[[Image:M4A1nongun.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M4A1 Non Gun]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it's a Non Gun M4. Look at the range at which he's shooting at his comrades. Blanks are dangerous if an actor is shooting at other actors who are that close, so they probably had to use the Non Gun instead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:Actually, the Aimpoint M68 CCO (in this case I believe it is a Comp M2 or ML2) can be used with the foreward lens cover closed. Used in this method, it forms an occuladed eye-sight, which were one of the first types of weapons optics employed. Using an occuladed eye-sight is very similar in principle to the BAC method employed in some Trijicon ACOGs, both eyes are left open and due to the way the brain processes images from the eye, what the left (or right eye sees) downrange has the red dot from the other eye (which is looking down the sight) superimposed on it. This is useful as there are rumors that the red dot (particularly in the Aimpoint family) can in fact be detected from in front of the weapon due to the intensity of the light, espiecially in night battle conditions. So the sceintist might really know what he is doing, but it is just as likely it was a mistake by the prop department.[[User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 22:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== I liked Rick's reaction when he pulled the pin on the grenade in the last episode ==

He was thinkin "ohshitohshitohshitohshit" and then hauled ass outta there haha. I liked that little detail, along with him getting knocked off his feet as he tried to get as far away from it as possible, instead of the clichè "walk slowly towards the camera as a bomb goes off behind you with a bad-ass grimace on your face". This show had a lot of nice little details like that. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 03:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I liked that too. i hate when like the everyday joe can slowly walk away from a huge explosion,[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

Talk:The Walking Dead (TV Series)

2011-06-25T14:18:43Z

Euromutt: /* DShK heavy machine gun? */

==OTHER==
That's Norman Reedus with the crossbow. He plays Daryl Dixon, who was not in the actual comic that I can recall. I like that though, he's a cool actor. I'm also a little bummed that they didn't use the guns drawn in the comics. Rick uses a HK mk.23. For those of you who might think that it's impossible to tell that from the comic the artist wrote HK MK.23 on the barrel. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:I read some where that the Walker are attracted to loud noises. that might be why he is carrying a crossbow

It is smart to use a crossbow; because it saves on bullets and in most all undead literature and movies the undead always react and swarm when they hear a gunshot. Very good show, have never read the comic but look forward to.-GoshMr.Peabody

It's pretty amazing. I recommend buying the trade paperbacks. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Whoa==
I loved the comic, when the hell did it get a tv show?

The idea was revealed a while ago. It comes out on Halloween. -SasquatchJim

honestly , its like two hours till the show ,i cant wait. simmons 8492

Well it kept my interest. I'll watch it again next week to see if it can maintain the momentum.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

honestly it took some time to realy get things going , but now hes in a populated zone with other survivers . and if i was him id start that tank up! simmons 8492

I coulda sworn the 50 on that tank was still loaded with ammo and in the next scene, it had no ammo [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Just watched it again. The .50 on the tank doesn't appear to be loaded, but there's another one in a sandbag fort that is, in the foreground as he goes by. -IGemini 04:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

iv watched it from the start and i have to say its great simmons 8492

== Crappy dialogue ==

In the trailer, one of the cops told the other to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off. First off, the man he was talking to, had a Glock, so no safety. And since he's a trained cop, ready to open fire on a suspect that's hostile, why wouldn't he have a round in the chamber and his gun ready to go? That line just threw me off [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, just watched it. Its brilliant, easily as good as the comic. The 'crappy dialogue above does jar a little tho. Hes telling him to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off as it is implied the officer in question is a bit useless, however after doing a brass check the officer in question then presses down on the slide release (even tho the slide is forward) as if to pretend it is the saftey catch. Morgan has a 5 shot snub revolver (which someone else will have to identify as im not too good with em). Rick pull a 92fs (standing in for an m9) from a dead soldiers shoulder holster at the end of the episode, and i'm fairly sure the SIG is a tutone P228 or 229 not a P239 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

:Maybe Basset is so damn useless that he hasn't even figured out that Glocks don't come with manual safeties... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:28, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

The funny thing about the thing with the safety is that you can hear the sound of a safety being click off.--[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 04:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Remember that the dialogue was written long before it was decided the cop would be holding a Glock(unless the writer is Michael Mann). So maybe the round in the chamber thing may have been unwarranted, but maybe he was a rookie, he did seem sort of skittish. Regardless, it's unfair to call ''that'' crappy dialogue. I think you're letting your knowledge of guns get in the way of enjoying good stories.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 04:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Dont know if its worth noting, but the cop he tells that too, is actually, the first zombie he ends up shooting, after leaving the police station. Rick commented he was careless and dumb, so reminding him, makes sense.

And, of course, Rick committed a cardinal sin; he referred to a magazine as a clip :P -SasquatchJim

I'm not surprised, Sasqatch. The cop I talked to called his Glock 17 a "Glock 9". I'm sure he would have said clip to. Not all cops are into guns. Haha

==SIG P239==

[[Image:WalkingDead-SIGP239.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P239 at police.]]

This doesn't look like a P239 to me; more like a P226 or P228. It's too big, and it has nickel controls (which the two-tone P239s don't have). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:P228 because of the slide length. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::Remember, on low resolution screencaps like the ones I had to use, feel free to correct the Gun IDs. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
::: Watching the scene I agree that it is somewhat larger. Sounds fine to me - I'll change it. The first episode was pretty good. I'm adding a Beretta 92FS (M9) entry - Grimes indeed takes one off a 'dead' soldier inside the Abrams tank he gets into, as noted by the above section. Also, I never did get a good glance at the snub revolver, though I'm fairly certain it's a S&W. They're replaying the show so I'll keep an eye for it, and some of the other guns. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

==Spoiler Comment and Morgan's Revolver==
Its nice to see the page updated but arn't some of the descriptions (mainly the colt python) a bit spoilerific for anyone who hasn't watched it yet? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Whoa, yes they are, I sure as hell didn't add those. :b I'll reword them somewhat. Also! The revolver Morgan uses is a Snub S&W Model 66, I can almost guarantee it. Bah, wish I could get screencaps. Still, I'll add that as well. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 04:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure its a 66? I remember it having a 5 round cylinder --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I grabbed this off my skyplus box so sorry bout the quality [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2i700fm.jpg[/IMG] Any use, its definatly a 5 shot--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: I could have ''sworn'' it was a S&W. But it's definitely not a Model 66, since there's no rear adj. sights, nor of course a 6-shot cylinder. But Smith snubbie J-frames (5-shot) all have flat 'bull-nose' ejector rod shrouds, not curved. Bah, now I'm kinda stumped. My best guess at this point would probably be a [[Ruger SP101]]. Convert that image there to JPG and upload it on the site. It's not great, but it's better than nothing. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

::Looks like it could also be either the [[Taurus Model 617]] or possibly a stainless steel [[Taurus Model 85]]. Biu it is difficult.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

From the barrel it looks like an early Taurus Model 85 in stainless or nickel plated. It was a five shot cylinder definitely.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: After posting I did consider it being a Taurus, many of them are awfully S&W looking to begin with. I doubt it's a 617 but it easily could be an 85. Hell, could be anything for all I know at this point. I guess it'll just be another 'unidentified' until we get more/better screencaps. I'll modify the S&W 66 entry I posted and just call it un-ID'd snub revolver, noting the 5-shot capacity and stating the possible choices. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I am almost certain it is actually a Ruger SP101, two inch model. No other snubbie, as far as I know, has the upper rear of the frame shaped into a rear sight notch like the SP101, as both of those Taurus models just lack rear sights - you can check the Taurus website as both models lack a "rear sight" category under specifications. Also, if you check out the behind the scenes vid [http://www.amctv.com/originals/The-Walking-Dead/?bclid=625294007001&bcpid=111717822001&bctid=628200502001 here], there is a pretty decent side shot of the revolver. The general shape is very close to a SP101, and even from the front, the lines on Morgan's triggerguard and barrel are cut much closer semi-melted look on the SP than the very sharp ones on a Taurus oR S&W.

All said, the easiest way to tell would be if they showed the damned cylinder release at some point. --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 07:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC) (Corrected typo --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 02:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC))

: It's not an SP101. The recoil shield shown is a simple traditional shape, not the bulkier contours Rugers have in that part of the frame. Also, the ejector rod shroud is cut back more sharply from the muzzle, and the revolver in the show seems to lack the small hole on the front of the frame for the front crane lock. [[User:Rule .303|Rule .303]] 14:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Judging by the screens uploaded I'd say definately not a 617, 617 is a 7-shot, also can't see a ported barrel. Still think it's a Taurus though. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

If you watch the Making of the Walking dead Season 1 it shows the side of the revolver.. Looks exactly like the Ruger SP101 from Breaking Bad. I'm guessing its the same prop. (Just like I think the RV is. )

== What kind of tank was that? ==

Its oviously a stand-in for an M-1 but I'm not sure what it is. I'm thinking possibly a Chieftain, but I'm not sure. Also, note that a real M-1 woulnd't have worked for the scene since it lacks the floor escape hatch.

-AC.

:I'm also reasonably certain the 82nd Airborne Division doesn't have tanks in their TO&E, yet the (un)dead soldier in the tank had an 82nd patch on his left shoulder. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:32, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

At this point I'm not sure, but I do suspect it's the same tank that shows up in ''[[Zombieland]]''. Both shows are filmed in Georgia and the voice-over commentary on ''Zombieland'' states that the tank is owned by a private collector.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Definately a Chieftain.

: I concur, Chieftains are often used (mocked-up) as stand-ins for Abrams tanks. I also noticed the bottom escape hatch, which as far as I can recall, indeed isn't on an actual Abrams. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

''Other comments posted on main page-''

(Perhaps it is just me, but the Abrams featured in this appears to be a mocked up British Chieftain Tank, I didn't get a good look at the tank but it didn't seem to be a genuine Abrams, although it could simply be an older pattern M1 without the TUSK upgrade, reactive armor and the more apparent loaders hatch. Yet that would not explain the escape hatch.- Doc345)

Older M1s didn't look that diffrent, from the later ones, aside from the most recent upgardes.

Also, the angle of the frontal turret armor is wrong to be an M1.

I think this may be the same tank which appeared in, among other series, Jericho. The vehicle, if I remember correctly, is built on an old Centurion chasis to resemble an Abrams with some obvious differences. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

On a random note, where was a Striker seen in the episode? It says on the page that there was one with a fifty cal on it, but aside from the tank, the only other military vehicles I saw where some HMMWVs, what looked like a deuce, and a half, and some abandone Hueys.

Intrestingly, in the trailor, the one Rick first sees after leaving the hospital lacked a rotor blade making me think it was edited in post-production. Also, the one off to Ricks left appears to still be lacking one.

-AC

at the begging seen when the main cerictor walkes out of the hospital he sees a ebandoned military equpent you can see a Stryker IFV --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 21:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
heres a picture
[[Image:The walking dead.png]]

I can say without a doubt that the 'M1' ''is'' a Chieftain, not a Centurion. The long sloping frontal 'nose' armour, the front idler wheel and the lockers/storage bins are features of the Chieftain, not the Centurion. Not too sure about the 'escape hatch' though. I wonder if this is the same 'M1' that appears in the 2010 remake of Red Dawn? It looks the same to me. [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]

*Naw, that one they've actually made some modifications to like building up the hull and turret to be more Abrams-like and putting an M1-style bulge over the cylindrical fume extractor. This is just a Chieftain with a fake M2 awkwardly perched on top of the hatch weapon mounting. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:07, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

== Things I noticed ==

Did anybody else notice that when Morgan cocked the hammer back on his gun and threatened to shoot Grimes if he didn't talk, the cylinder didn't advance to the next chamber like it should?

And what about Grimes' personal arsenal in his backpack? Is it safe to assume that rubber/resin mockups? He was getting bounced pretty hard by that horse and the guns kept bumping him in the back. That's at least 40 pounds of gear to be carrying around.

More than safe to assume that. Most of them even appeared to have solid barrels. Probably rubber.--[[Special:Contributions/99.48.50.70|99.48.50.70]] 04:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

The cylinder did rotate, I remembered that happening when I watched the scene. As far as the bag -o- guns, I have no idea. If they were all rubber, they were modeled after some hard to find shotgun configurations and looked very real. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 20:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

According to Grimes in episode 3 his duffle bag was holding six shotguns, two "high powered" rifles, a dozen handguns, and 700 rounds of assorted ammo. That's easily 80-90 pounds of gear. There's no way Grimes could be carrying that around in one hand with a gas can in the other. Or getting bucked and having the bag sag to the side and the stuff not come falling out.

Did anybody else notice that Dale seemed to switch between carrying a rifle with a sling, to carrying one without a sling between scenes?

== I rewatched the first episode. ==

Two of the Sheriffs deputys from the neighboring county had shotguns. One looked like and 870 Remington. The other looked like a Mossberg.

The gun used to shoot Rick, I'm pretty sure was either 1911, or a Glock. It seemed to have an extended slide.

-AC

:: I noticed the shotguns too but it was hard to get a decent look at them, mainly the second one (Mossberg I guess). I will concur at least one of the other shotguns was indeed a standard 870. No idea what the pistol is/was. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Almost positive the other two deputys, from the neighboring county had Glocks, like the other deputys from Ricks department.

You can see one of the shotguns fairly well, after Rick gots shot, one of the two deputys joins Shane in trying to help Rick. Like Shane, he drops his gun, and it can be seen fairly well.

Looking at the pick on here, I'm more positive than ever that the last gunmans weapon was a 1911.
Good eye on my part, since it was litreally visible for like less than a second.-AC.

==Andrea's gun==
I believe Andrea is packing a Smith and Wesson 3913 Ladysmith [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:I concur. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

Here's a good picture. http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-2-rick-andrea.php
[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:: I also agree about it being a 3913 Ladysmith. We also saw a M67 'baseball' grenade in this latest episode (actually the training version, you could still spot some blue paint on it). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== What kind of rifle did Meryl have? ==

Looked like possibly a Model 70, but I'm bad at identifing bolt actions.
-AC

Seriously, does anyone know what kind of rifle he had?-AC

Compare the bolt heads (or whatever the end of the bolt closest to the butt is called); the Remington 700 seems to have more of a protruding portion, while the Mod. 70 is tucked in and more square-like.

At least, that's what it seems like. There used to be a generic page for comparing Bolt-Action Rifles, like the shotguns have now. Where did that page go?

Here it is.

[[Bolt Action Rifles - Most common Sporting Models|Scoped Bolt Action Hunting Rifles]]. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

==Shane's Pistol==
Can anyone identify the pistol Shane is carrying? It looks like either a Glock or possibly a Sig Pro. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Probally a Gock. There very common cop guns, in both hollywood, and real life. Also, severael of the cops, at opening shootout had them, so evedently the prophouse they went to had some.
-AC

Definitely a Glock. Although it's only shown briefly, it looks like a 17. He carries it in a thumb break holster.

Picture of him holding it: http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-4-carl-lori-shane-morales.php

After looking at the screenshot on the main page, can anyone identify the holster?

In the finale you can see its a Glock 19. Not 17. (Also the firing M4s looked like they had blank firing adapters as flashiders)

==Merle==

It's Merle not Maryl or Marle

==Guts==
I really like how Rick actually checks the dead soldier's vest for more ammo instead of just taking the weapon like every other film. I also like how when his Beretta runs dry he doesn't toss it away like some generic action hero but he keeps it and stows it in Glenn's backpack. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that was good stuff. Have yet to see the Beretta again though. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:Did you also notice that his [[Colt Python]] is still in his hoslter even though he ran out of ammo for it? I liked that touch as well. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

You never know what you might find ammo for at a latter date.-AC
::Which he does in the third episode. Anyway Python's are too expensive to be tossing away on a whim. Even after the Zombie Apocalypse has happened. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

If I recall right they've been outta production since the late 90s.

::The last Python was manufactured approximately six years ago. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Still outta production than. If I recall right, for a while it was outta generael production, but could be special ordered.

Yes the last five or six years it had to be ordered through the custom shop.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

The Python, and The Anaconda, where the best revolvers Colt made since the SAA imho-AC

IMO, the Official Police and Detective Special should be included as well. -SasquatchJim

Too bad that still fully loaded .50 next to the tank is too heavy to take back [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

If he can walk and ride a horse with a 90lb bag on his back like its nothing, he could carry a M2.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

And he brought buddies with him to GET that bag he left behind. They can lug around an M2 with ammo. Sure it doesn't look like there's any extra, but it's an M2 with AMMO! [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

But honestly, what would be the purpose, in this story? I mean, they're already getting guns and ammo, and it's not like you need a lot of penetration to kill a zombie, so they don't really need a .50 caliber machinegun. All it would really do was kill a couple of zombies while making a shitload of noise, attracting every zombie in a mile radius. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 05:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

: I bet one would've come in handy on top of the camper during the attack on the camp. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 04:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::Possibly (I posted that before I saw that episode, sorry.), though I doubt any of them have any training or even any practice with military grade machine guns, and so I'm betting that during the chaos of the attack, they would have killed more of their own people. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 02:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
::: Woulda been kinda hard to use that thing in the dark, too, since the only source of light is that campfire. Scoring headshots on zombies without friendly fire in a situation like that? No way even TV-land can pull THAT one off.

Talking about scavenging guns, even when they were rushing back to the vehicles in front of the CDC wouldn't it have been a good idea to at least grab a couple of the discarded weapons lying around out front?

==Vatos==
Ok, tonight I think I've seen a S&W model 10, a Colt Detective Special, and possibly a S&W mosel 28 in the hands of the mexican gangsters and it looks like T-Dog was using a BAR. The bag had some Sigs and Glocks and Daryl had a Remington 870 and I think that Rick is using a Mossberg 590 not a 500. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Just so everyone knows, I didn't edit the page tonight, I just wrote on here. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Daryl took at least one Sig from the bag. T-Dog used a Mossberg later, but I think his scoped rifle was a BAR. The shotty Glenn ended up with, looked the same as Daryl's. Also, Shane drew his pistol at one point, but it was hard to see.-AC
==Daryl's Crossbow==
Daryl Dixon's crossbow is a Horton Scout HD 125: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2817217&cid=CSE:GoogleProductSearch. In the fourth episode "Vatos", when Daryl points it a T-dog on the roof you can see the faded Horton logo on the front. Scout 125 can be seen above the trigger after the camera angle changes.

::Picture added and changes made. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Was that an XD? ==

The handgun, that Daryl takes from the bag of guns. At first I thought it was a SIG, but after rewatching it, I think it may have been a Springfield Army XD.
-AC

Nope, definitely a bi-tone Sig of some kind.

Yeah, the XDs don't have all that stuff on the side of the gun and the slide is actually more Glock like than the more rounder Sig slides [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) inspects a bi-tone Sig Sauer handgun from his bag of guns.]]

- ZeoRanger5 17:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

that looks like a SIG-sauer P226 or P228. simmons 8492

I agree with simmons 8492, i'd say p228 myself.

How did you think that was an XD?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 14:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Not sure. When I stuck it in his waistband, it looked like a combination between a Sig, and a Glock. As far as handguns go, I'd say the XD is closest to that description. Course I was rather sleep deprived at the time.-AC

i also think that in episode 5 shane pulls what looks to be a sig when the sister is coming back to life . im not sure because i know shane has a glock but this isnt in the holster , its carried mexican style and is only seen for seconds. can some one verify ?[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Rick also pulls a gun carried similarily in that scene. Ricks looked like a Glock.

but shanes looks more like a sig or something .[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Some ones gotta move that pic into the 228 spot.[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

:It's not a P228. The screencap doesn't show it well, but I checked the episode again, and it's possible to see that it has the squared trigger guard of the P226, rather than rounded, as on a P228. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

==Faking recoil==

Its a littlle overdone but nice to see it (a HP in 9mm doesnt kick as much as shown, but its better than most shows, and handling is pretty good or tv.

may be because he hasent realy fired a 9mm in a while he wasnt use to it or because hes used to the revovler

That makes no sense, .357 Magnum (I'm guessing thats what is loaded) has alot more kick, if he can handle a .357 than he could easily handle a 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 23:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

and im sure that a python has more kick than that highpower . and being that he killed a hand full of zombies with that in the first episode it wont matter .-[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

:Just a FYI, its Hi Power, not High Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

/AUA

Since most people don't know the distinction between a Hi-Power and a Colt M1911, and the show is known to have certain..flaws when it comes to reality, they could have just been assuming that it was a .45, and Hollywood logic states that if it's larger than 9mm, it makes your wrist fly up and sends bad guys flying.

Or it was just because they wanted Rick to seem cool with a stainless steel firearm (like his Colt Python, which he points at other survivors so often, it could be a drinking game).

But being seriously, this is the same show where Glocks have external, slide-mounted safeties in the US and headshots can be made off-hand with a sidearm at 50 meters while running.

AUA/

:I haven't been able to watch the series only the first episode (no cable) but... The Python is a heavy revolver and could be loaded with .38 Specials. Also with the Hi-Power being a semi-auto and able to shoot more rapidly. Would have more perceived recoil. Seeing guys on YouTube handle .45s with very little recoil, it's shotguns and full auto rifles where movies get recoil wrong. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

==DShK heavy machine gun?==

I believe there was an abandoned DShK heavy machine gun flanked by sandbags when they headed towards the CDC building by the looks of the muzzle. (This was the best episode so far, I think.) - Angel_956

Most likely a mocked up M2 but I definatly saw that distinct muzzle brake.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I added a cap but you cannot really tell one way or another if it is a mock up or not. Either way...it makes no sense for it to be there in the first place!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why would an outdated Soviet Union machine gun even be in the show, but it might be cleared up in the next episode. I clearly remember the guy in the CDC building saying something about some French soilders, I think. If so it might of meant that there was an international response to the zombie outbreak, trying to control it, explaining the DShK. [[User:Angel_956|Angel_956]]

:Now your just over-analyzing, it's in all likeliness what they used because it's what was available to use when they were shooting the scene. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

:Maybe somebody "requisitioned" (read: looted) it from the National Infantry Museum or Fort Benning; both are in or around Columbus, GA, which isn't exactly close to Atlanta, but it's the closest place I can think of where you might plausibly find a DShK. When you need more HMGs, you grab what's available. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 20:18, 24 June 2011 (CDT)

Weird though, since they oviously had M2s available for filming.-AC

:Not necessarily. Armorers can change during filming and weapons may not be available even though they were previously. Also remember that only the first episode had the M2 so the armorer could have changed since then. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

::Actually, those M2HBs are still there in episodes 2 ("Guts," when Grimes escapes from the tank) and 4 ("Vatos," when Glenn goes to retrieve the Bag O' Guns). They weren't just there for the pilot. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 09:18, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

My thought was militia that made a last stand with the army to protect the people gathering at the CDC (notice the weapon is surrounded by bodies in civilian clothes), the DShK having been purchased by one of the members (legitimately or otherwise) and subsequently put to use following the outbreak. - Wolfblade670

== Daryl's knife ==

In the third episode, when Daryl is told about his brother, he attacks Rick with some sort of hunting or combat knife. He's later seen with it in a sheath on his left thigh, and you get a fairly close (But very brief) look at it when they're walking through the building at the beginning of the forth episode. Anyone have any clue what it is? I mean, from the brief glimpse I got of it in the forth episode, it looked like it was possibly a TOPS Steel Eagle 107C, the same kind of knife that the character Royce had sheathed in Predators, but I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm, or give an alternative? [[User:Acora|Acora]] 07:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== What kind of gun did he give Morales? ==

He said it was a .357, but I have no idea what it was.-AC

/AUA

He held it in his hand for a profile shot; maybe you should try screencapping it at that point and going from there. There should be an ID for it though, unlike Morgan's snubnose.

AUA/

I lack the equipment needed to screencap.-AC

/AUA

Use IrfanView (freeware) or the PrtScn button on your computer (press it on the frame you want to capture, and then paste it into Paint to crop it).

AUA/

I think it's a Smith and Wesson 586 [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

== Rick's second shotgun.==

After Rick gives the 590 (it wasn't a 500, someone should change that) to Guillermo, he uses one with an 18 inch barrel, a blued type finish and wood furniture. I think some people commented on it being a Mossberg, but it has a rounded bolt like a Remington 870. However, it's not an 870 since the trigger guard isn't round enough, the magazine tube is longer than the standard 4 shot tube, and it doesn't have an extension attached, and the wood furniture has a single rib on the side for gripping. After doing some research, my best guess is that it's an earlier H&R Pardner Pump, possibly in some sort of police configuration. I know it's neither a Mossberg or a Remington, though.

It's indeed an H&R Pardner Pump. The humpback receiver is unmistakable. [Ballistics_Expert2]

/AUA

I'd PrtScn/screencap the shotgun in question before making any comparisons. We still haven't definitively IDed Dale's bolt-action, so maybe you should get one of that as well.

AUA/

We still have Merles bolt-action as well.
-AC

This cap from the page will suffice:

[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Remigton, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]

And a link to a Pardner Pump configured similarly:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj131/TRguy/Guns/NEFPardnerPumpYouth8-12-10.jpg

A few things distinguishing the shotgun in the picture as a Pardner Pump as opposed to an 870, 500 series, or whatever:

-Some type of thin rib on the top of the barrel.
-The foregrip has the distinctive groove in it as seen on the Pardner Pump.
-The agnle that the receiver curves at the butt end is a sharper angle rather than a bend type (you can tell by the shadow).
-The magazine tube is longer than a 4 shot, but it's not screwed on like other models, nor does the endcap and barrel link resemble that of other models.

Some other things that you can't notice in the picture, like the flatter trigger guard or a good shot of the angled receiver, are seen in the series very easily, namely in Episode 5 during Rick and Shane's patrol, when this cap takes place, and one instance in Episode 6 where the doctor is drawing blood and the gun is sitting behind Rick as he waits. This good enough? --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 10:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

::I think you're right, it's not a Remington, Mossberg, or a Winchester. It looks like a Pardner, more like the Pardner pump compact, due to the shorter barrell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

-Rick's first shotgun was a 500 with the extended tube. It didn't have the bayonet lug, just check some of the promo pics on imbd.com - [[User:MarkXIX|MarkXIX]]

Ah, so it is, I could have sworn I saw the 590s tube cap on it. I can notice a buncha stuff on an H&R, but I get that wrong, lol. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 17:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

==Think its funny==

Rick misses several close range shots (so do long gun toting officers) in the beginning against chase suspects, then later in series hes nailing headshots left and right....

Noticed that too, although zombies don't shoot back. They just charge straight ahead.

/AUA

It's a screenplay-direction thing. The show is already a bit overdramatized in general, so little things like the 'clip' and 'safety' dialogue or the headshot ratio aren't really all that important to the screenwriters, at least not compared with inserting dramatic bits into it.

AUA/

When the police were shooting the chase suspects, their targets were live people. An accurate marksman or not, if you're not used to firing live rounds at live humans your subconscious may not want you to hit that kill shot. Zombies are different.

also he has had weeks of shooting live targets ie the zombies so he as probaly leared to shot them really well --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:21, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

/AUA

Unless you're superhuman, you can't learn how to make a shot that is off-hand, behind you, at a 1.5 x 1 ft target at 50 meters, while RUNNING, in a few weeks. Few people would be able to make that shot, period. The gate-zombie shots were just...unfeasible.

AUA/

*Well it is a show about the dead walking around and eating the flesh of the living. I'm willing to overlook the amazing skill that Rick displays with headshots.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:28, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

==Question about Shane's shotgun technique==
Just a question for those who may know, is it considered proper technique to hold the gun that high on the shoulder, with his cheek resting on the receiver? I figuered it was an adjustmant made due to the M4-style stock, as Rick and other survivors wielding unmodified weapons don't do this.

: I noticed that too, I figured it was just the actor's preference (possibly due to inexperience) but I guess it could be because of the M4 stock. I dunno. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 01:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

:It's standard practice in the US military. They teach you to ride the stock high so that your sights are level with your eyes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 13:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thats with the M16/M4, not a shotgun.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

:the stock on the shotgun is a Knoxx Industries SpecOps NRS Shotgun Stock

::My dad has one on his 870.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

-i noticed that . i dont think that stock has a single thing to do with it . it probably prefrances [[user:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

==Series Finale==

I noticed a nickel finished pistol tucked into Daryl's waistband mexican style early on in the episode, looked like a SIG.
I'm thinking that Daryl's pistol was probably the same Hi-Power Rick took off merle in episode 2.

Does any one else think the grenade description is a bit of a spoiler as it is a deus ex machina. I suggest only saying it is used in episode 6 and not how. I know this has absoloutely nothing to do with firearms but i loved the ax decapitation amidst the headshots at the end --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

:The grenade wasn't a deus ex machina, but a textbook example of Chekhov's gun. He found it in the first episode even. It would have been a deus ex machina if they found it there.(I expected him to actually bring it out against the guys in the city in episode 3, myself)--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 08:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, New guy here. When Jenner allows the the others to enter the facility at the start of the episode, he's seen holding an M4, and he mentions that "There're a lot of these lying around. I familiarized myself." And yet, none of the others ever even think of finding a couple of the guns for themselves. Shame, considering a couple of those and a few mags would've come in pretty handy outside (especially if there was a suppressor to be found) Anyone else bugged by this?

They've been sitting outside for like a month. The M4 is a fine, gun, but you need to clean it regularly.-AC

:Only if your in the desert sand, sitting around like that outside would be fine but not how I would store my guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I was definitely bugged by this fact. Supposedly a lot of M4s and 30 round magazines lying around, and Jenner's the only guy who has one. But then again the supply of ammo might've been low, considering everything that'd happened. [[Ballistics_Expert2]]

first off all there are no M4A1`s seen inside all out side wicth iswere he probily got it second they were only out side for a few momints ehter runing away from the bulding or trying to get in before they are over welbed with zombies tird as he said ammo is preety rare as you can see when they are out side there are hunderdes of dead zombies witch had to be killed by something --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 19:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== To Do List. ==

1. Shotguns used by deputies in opening shootout.
2. Morgans revolver.
3. Merles rifle.
4. The guns, Rick, and Shane pull after Amy turns.
5. The gun given to Morales.
6. Daryls handgun.
7. Whether Shanes Glock is a 17 or 19.
8. Whether Ricks first shotty was a 500 or a 590.
9. Ricks second shotty.

I miss anything?-AC

==Short Season Huh?==

At least season 2 will be twice as long, whenever they get around to making it.....

At least there will be a seaon two, I thought this was a miniseries at first and was very dissapointed that it was over so soon. [[Special:Contributions/67.187.27.89|67.187.27.89]] 01:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

It's definately already in production. Normally when a series gets picked up production on the second season gets rolling ASAP. This became a pretty popular show, show I'm guessing AMC got the ball rolling right away when they realized they had demand for the show. Anyone here read the graphic novel series? I want to try and get into it but want to know if it's worth the time and money--[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 05:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

They really are worth it. I buy the trade paperbacks, they are like $12.00 a book. There are 13 of them up to now. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Personaaly i prefer the graphic novels. Dont get me wrong i love the series, but the comics are much more grim and dark, in the series everyone seems to be more willing to get along and its more zombie orientated, the comics are much more grim, its about the characters and in the comic no characters are safe, even mainstay ones. The tv series feels slightly more commercialised and main characters have outlived their comic book life already. I do love the tv version, and darly dixion is the best non comic character creation to be added to the series, I just hope Carl gets a gun next series, that said and cant belive i have to wait till october to see series 2.- Captain Snikt [[Special:Contributions/109.157.4.163|109.157.4.163]] 23:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Popular Cop Guns ==
An answer above said that the Glock was "a very common cop gun, in both hollywood, and real life." This is true, but I was wondering if their were any other cop guns in hollywood and in real life that are as popular as the Glock.--[[User:MarineCorps1|MarineCorps1]] 21:49, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The Beretta 92 is the only one that comes to mind for me. -SasquatchJim.

:There aren't too many police depts issuing the Beretta 92F anymore, even though Hollywood still shows them being carried by cops. Anyway, Glock holds just under 2/3rds of the U.S. law enforcement market, SIG-Sauer holds about 1/3rd, and a number of other makes (S&W, H&K, Beretta, etc.) are constantly fighting each other for what's left. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

SIG-Sauer P226, S&W M19/66, AR-15, and many more... --[[User:nkingman|nkingman]]

Ah, that's right.
Some older ones include the S&W Model 10, S&W Model 28, Colt Trooper, and a 12 gauge pump shotgun (namely a Remington 870.)
Another new one is the S&W M&P -SasquatchJim

There was once a time when the S&W Model 15/67, the S&W Model 13/65. Colt Official Police, Ruger Six Series revolvers, the S&W Model 19/66 and the Colt Lawman/Trooper Mk III were also very popular Cop revolvers.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:40, 28 March 2011 (CDT)

== Flash suppressor on M4A1 ==

Did anyone else notice the flash suppressor on the M4A1 held by the soldier that gets grabbed is different than normal?
:I thought it was a nongun.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.179.105|129.89.179.105]] 01:22, 19 December 2010 (UTC)(thePotShot)
::Just for reference,
::[[Image:M4A1nongun.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M4A1 Non Gun]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it's a Non Gun M4. Look at the range at which he's shooting at his comrades. Blanks are dangerous if an actor is shooting at other actors who are that close, so they probably had to use the Non Gun instead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:Actually, the Aimpoint M68 CCO (in this case I believe it is a Comp M2 or ML2) can be used with the foreward lens cover closed. Used in this method, it forms an occuladed eye-sight, which were one of the first types of weapons optics employed. Using an occuladed eye-sight is very similar in principle to the BAC method employed in some Trijicon ACOGs, both eyes are left open and due to the way the brain processes images from the eye, what the left (or right eye sees) downrange has the red dot from the other eye (which is looking down the sight) superimposed on it. This is useful as there are rumors that the red dot (particularly in the Aimpoint family) can in fact be detected from in front of the weapon due to the intensity of the light, espiecially in night battle conditions. So the sceintist might really know what he is doing, but it is just as likely it was a mistake by the prop department.[[User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 22:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== I liked Rick's reaction when he pulled the pin on the grenade in the last episode ==

He was thinkin "ohshitohshitohshitohshit" and then hauled ass outta there haha. I liked that little detail, along with him getting knocked off his feet as he tried to get as far away from it as possible, instead of the clichè "walk slowly towards the camera as a bomb goes off behind you with a bad-ass grimace on your face". This show had a lot of nice little details like that. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 03:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I liked that too. i hate when like the everyday joe can slowly walk away from a huge explosion,[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

Talk:The Walking Dead (TV Series)

2011-06-25T12:32:18Z

Euromutt: /* What kind of tank was that? */

==OTHER==
That's Norman Reedus with the crossbow. He plays Daryl Dixon, who was not in the actual comic that I can recall. I like that though, he's a cool actor. I'm also a little bummed that they didn't use the guns drawn in the comics. Rick uses a HK mk.23. For those of you who might think that it's impossible to tell that from the comic the artist wrote HK MK.23 on the barrel. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:I read some where that the Walker are attracted to loud noises. that might be why he is carrying a crossbow

It is smart to use a crossbow; because it saves on bullets and in most all undead literature and movies the undead always react and swarm when they hear a gunshot. Very good show, have never read the comic but look forward to.-GoshMr.Peabody

It's pretty amazing. I recommend buying the trade paperbacks. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Whoa==
I loved the comic, when the hell did it get a tv show?

The idea was revealed a while ago. It comes out on Halloween. -SasquatchJim

honestly , its like two hours till the show ,i cant wait. simmons 8492

Well it kept my interest. I'll watch it again next week to see if it can maintain the momentum.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

honestly it took some time to realy get things going , but now hes in a populated zone with other survivers . and if i was him id start that tank up! simmons 8492

I coulda sworn the 50 on that tank was still loaded with ammo and in the next scene, it had no ammo [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Just watched it again. The .50 on the tank doesn't appear to be loaded, but there's another one in a sandbag fort that is, in the foreground as he goes by. -IGemini 04:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

iv watched it from the start and i have to say its great simmons 8492

== Crappy dialogue ==

In the trailer, one of the cops told the other to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off. First off, the man he was talking to, had a Glock, so no safety. And since he's a trained cop, ready to open fire on a suspect that's hostile, why wouldn't he have a round in the chamber and his gun ready to go? That line just threw me off [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, just watched it. Its brilliant, easily as good as the comic. The 'crappy dialogue above does jar a little tho. Hes telling him to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off as it is implied the officer in question is a bit useless, however after doing a brass check the officer in question then presses down on the slide release (even tho the slide is forward) as if to pretend it is the saftey catch. Morgan has a 5 shot snub revolver (which someone else will have to identify as im not too good with em). Rick pull a 92fs (standing in for an m9) from a dead soldiers shoulder holster at the end of the episode, and i'm fairly sure the SIG is a tutone P228 or 229 not a P239 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

:Maybe Basset is so damn useless that he hasn't even figured out that Glocks don't come with manual safeties... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:28, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

The funny thing about the thing with the safety is that you can hear the sound of a safety being click off.--[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 04:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Remember that the dialogue was written long before it was decided the cop would be holding a Glock(unless the writer is Michael Mann). So maybe the round in the chamber thing may have been unwarranted, but maybe he was a rookie, he did seem sort of skittish. Regardless, it's unfair to call ''that'' crappy dialogue. I think you're letting your knowledge of guns get in the way of enjoying good stories.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 04:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Dont know if its worth noting, but the cop he tells that too, is actually, the first zombie he ends up shooting, after leaving the police station. Rick commented he was careless and dumb, so reminding him, makes sense.

And, of course, Rick committed a cardinal sin; he referred to a magazine as a clip :P -SasquatchJim

I'm not surprised, Sasqatch. The cop I talked to called his Glock 17 a "Glock 9". I'm sure he would have said clip to. Not all cops are into guns. Haha

==SIG P239==

[[Image:WalkingDead-SIGP239.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P239 at police.]]

This doesn't look like a P239 to me; more like a P226 or P228. It's too big, and it has nickel controls (which the two-tone P239s don't have). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:P228 because of the slide length. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::Remember, on low resolution screencaps like the ones I had to use, feel free to correct the Gun IDs. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
::: Watching the scene I agree that it is somewhat larger. Sounds fine to me - I'll change it. The first episode was pretty good. I'm adding a Beretta 92FS (M9) entry - Grimes indeed takes one off a 'dead' soldier inside the Abrams tank he gets into, as noted by the above section. Also, I never did get a good glance at the snub revolver, though I'm fairly certain it's a S&W. They're replaying the show so I'll keep an eye for it, and some of the other guns. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

==Spoiler Comment and Morgan's Revolver==
Its nice to see the page updated but arn't some of the descriptions (mainly the colt python) a bit spoilerific for anyone who hasn't watched it yet? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Whoa, yes they are, I sure as hell didn't add those. :b I'll reword them somewhat. Also! The revolver Morgan uses is a Snub S&W Model 66, I can almost guarantee it. Bah, wish I could get screencaps. Still, I'll add that as well. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 04:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure its a 66? I remember it having a 5 round cylinder --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I grabbed this off my skyplus box so sorry bout the quality [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2i700fm.jpg[/IMG] Any use, its definatly a 5 shot--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: I could have ''sworn'' it was a S&W. But it's definitely not a Model 66, since there's no rear adj. sights, nor of course a 6-shot cylinder. But Smith snubbie J-frames (5-shot) all have flat 'bull-nose' ejector rod shrouds, not curved. Bah, now I'm kinda stumped. My best guess at this point would probably be a [[Ruger SP101]]. Convert that image there to JPG and upload it on the site. It's not great, but it's better than nothing. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

::Looks like it could also be either the [[Taurus Model 617]] or possibly a stainless steel [[Taurus Model 85]]. Biu it is difficult.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

From the barrel it looks like an early Taurus Model 85 in stainless or nickel plated. It was a five shot cylinder definitely.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: After posting I did consider it being a Taurus, many of them are awfully S&W looking to begin with. I doubt it's a 617 but it easily could be an 85. Hell, could be anything for all I know at this point. I guess it'll just be another 'unidentified' until we get more/better screencaps. I'll modify the S&W 66 entry I posted and just call it un-ID'd snub revolver, noting the 5-shot capacity and stating the possible choices. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I am almost certain it is actually a Ruger SP101, two inch model. No other snubbie, as far as I know, has the upper rear of the frame shaped into a rear sight notch like the SP101, as both of those Taurus models just lack rear sights - you can check the Taurus website as both models lack a "rear sight" category under specifications. Also, if you check out the behind the scenes vid [http://www.amctv.com/originals/The-Walking-Dead/?bclid=625294007001&bcpid=111717822001&bctid=628200502001 here], there is a pretty decent side shot of the revolver. The general shape is very close to a SP101, and even from the front, the lines on Morgan's triggerguard and barrel are cut much closer semi-melted look on the SP than the very sharp ones on a Taurus oR S&W.

All said, the easiest way to tell would be if they showed the damned cylinder release at some point. --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 07:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC) (Corrected typo --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 02:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC))

: It's not an SP101. The recoil shield shown is a simple traditional shape, not the bulkier contours Rugers have in that part of the frame. Also, the ejector rod shroud is cut back more sharply from the muzzle, and the revolver in the show seems to lack the small hole on the front of the frame for the front crane lock. [[User:Rule .303|Rule .303]] 14:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Judging by the screens uploaded I'd say definately not a 617, 617 is a 7-shot, also can't see a ported barrel. Still think it's a Taurus though. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

If you watch the Making of the Walking dead Season 1 it shows the side of the revolver.. Looks exactly like the Ruger SP101 from Breaking Bad. I'm guessing its the same prop. (Just like I think the RV is. )

== What kind of tank was that? ==

Its oviously a stand-in for an M-1 but I'm not sure what it is. I'm thinking possibly a Chieftain, but I'm not sure. Also, note that a real M-1 woulnd't have worked for the scene since it lacks the floor escape hatch.

-AC.

:I'm also reasonably certain the 82nd Airborne Division doesn't have tanks in their TO&E, yet the (un)dead soldier in the tank had an 82nd patch on his left shoulder. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:32, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

At this point I'm not sure, but I do suspect it's the same tank that shows up in ''[[Zombieland]]''. Both shows are filmed in Georgia and the voice-over commentary on ''Zombieland'' states that the tank is owned by a private collector.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Definately a Chieftain.

: I concur, Chieftains are often used (mocked-up) as stand-ins for Abrams tanks. I also noticed the bottom escape hatch, which as far as I can recall, indeed isn't on an actual Abrams. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

''Other comments posted on main page-''

(Perhaps it is just me, but the Abrams featured in this appears to be a mocked up British Chieftain Tank, I didn't get a good look at the tank but it didn't seem to be a genuine Abrams, although it could simply be an older pattern M1 without the TUSK upgrade, reactive armor and the more apparent loaders hatch. Yet that would not explain the escape hatch.- Doc345)

Older M1s didn't look that diffrent, from the later ones, aside from the most recent upgardes.

Also, the angle of the frontal turret armor is wrong to be an M1.

I think this may be the same tank which appeared in, among other series, Jericho. The vehicle, if I remember correctly, is built on an old Centurion chasis to resemble an Abrams with some obvious differences. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

On a random note, where was a Striker seen in the episode? It says on the page that there was one with a fifty cal on it, but aside from the tank, the only other military vehicles I saw where some HMMWVs, what looked like a deuce, and a half, and some abandone Hueys.

Intrestingly, in the trailor, the one Rick first sees after leaving the hospital lacked a rotor blade making me think it was edited in post-production. Also, the one off to Ricks left appears to still be lacking one.

-AC

at the begging seen when the main cerictor walkes out of the hospital he sees a ebandoned military equpent you can see a Stryker IFV --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 21:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
heres a picture
[[Image:The walking dead.png]]

I can say without a doubt that the 'M1' ''is'' a Chieftain, not a Centurion. The long sloping frontal 'nose' armour, the front idler wheel and the lockers/storage bins are features of the Chieftain, not the Centurion. Not too sure about the 'escape hatch' though. I wonder if this is the same 'M1' that appears in the 2010 remake of Red Dawn? It looks the same to me. [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]

== Things I noticed ==

Did anybody else notice that when Morgan cocked the hammer back on his gun and threatened to shoot Grimes if he didn't talk, the cylinder didn't advance to the next chamber like it should?

And what about Grimes' personal arsenal in his backpack? Is it safe to assume that rubber/resin mockups? He was getting bounced pretty hard by that horse and the guns kept bumping him in the back. That's at least 40 pounds of gear to be carrying around.

More than safe to assume that. Most of them even appeared to have solid barrels. Probably rubber.--[[Special:Contributions/99.48.50.70|99.48.50.70]] 04:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

The cylinder did rotate, I remembered that happening when I watched the scene. As far as the bag -o- guns, I have no idea. If they were all rubber, they were modeled after some hard to find shotgun configurations and looked very real. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 20:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

According to Grimes in episode 3 his duffle bag was holding six shotguns, two "high powered" rifles, a dozen handguns, and 700 rounds of assorted ammo. That's easily 80-90 pounds of gear. There's no way Grimes could be carrying that around in one hand with a gas can in the other. Or getting bucked and having the bag sag to the side and the stuff not come falling out.

Did anybody else notice that Dale seemed to switch between carrying a rifle with a sling, to carrying one without a sling between scenes?

== I rewatched the first episode. ==

Two of the Sheriffs deputys from the neighboring county had shotguns. One looked like and 870 Remington. The other looked like a Mossberg.

The gun used to shoot Rick, I'm pretty sure was either 1911, or a Glock. It seemed to have an extended slide.

-AC

:: I noticed the shotguns too but it was hard to get a decent look at them, mainly the second one (Mossberg I guess). I will concur at least one of the other shotguns was indeed a standard 870. No idea what the pistol is/was. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Almost positive the other two deputys, from the neighboring county had Glocks, like the other deputys from Ricks department.

You can see one of the shotguns fairly well, after Rick gots shot, one of the two deputys joins Shane in trying to help Rick. Like Shane, he drops his gun, and it can be seen fairly well.

Looking at the pick on here, I'm more positive than ever that the last gunmans weapon was a 1911.
Good eye on my part, since it was litreally visible for like less than a second.-AC.

==Andrea's gun==
I believe Andrea is packing a Smith and Wesson 3913 Ladysmith [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:I concur. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

Here's a good picture. http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-2-rick-andrea.php
[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:: I also agree about it being a 3913 Ladysmith. We also saw a M67 'baseball' grenade in this latest episode (actually the training version, you could still spot some blue paint on it). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== What kind of rifle did Meryl have? ==

Looked like possibly a Model 70, but I'm bad at identifing bolt actions.
-AC

Seriously, does anyone know what kind of rifle he had?-AC

Compare the bolt heads (or whatever the end of the bolt closest to the butt is called); the Remington 700 seems to have more of a protruding portion, while the Mod. 70 is tucked in and more square-like.

At least, that's what it seems like. There used to be a generic page for comparing Bolt-Action Rifles, like the shotguns have now. Where did that page go?

Here it is.

[[Bolt Action Rifles - Most common Sporting Models|Scoped Bolt Action Hunting Rifles]]. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

==Shane's Pistol==
Can anyone identify the pistol Shane is carrying? It looks like either a Glock or possibly a Sig Pro. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Probally a Gock. There very common cop guns, in both hollywood, and real life. Also, severael of the cops, at opening shootout had them, so evedently the prophouse they went to had some.
-AC

Definitely a Glock. Although it's only shown briefly, it looks like a 17. He carries it in a thumb break holster.

Picture of him holding it: http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-4-carl-lori-shane-morales.php

After looking at the screenshot on the main page, can anyone identify the holster?

In the finale you can see its a Glock 19. Not 17. (Also the firing M4s looked like they had blank firing adapters as flashiders)

==Merle==

It's Merle not Maryl or Marle

==Guts==
I really like how Rick actually checks the dead soldier's vest for more ammo instead of just taking the weapon like every other film. I also like how when his Beretta runs dry he doesn't toss it away like some generic action hero but he keeps it and stows it in Glenn's backpack. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that was good stuff. Have yet to see the Beretta again though. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:Did you also notice that his [[Colt Python]] is still in his hoslter even though he ran out of ammo for it? I liked that touch as well. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

You never know what you might find ammo for at a latter date.-AC
::Which he does in the third episode. Anyway Python's are too expensive to be tossing away on a whim. Even after the Zombie Apocalypse has happened. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

If I recall right they've been outta production since the late 90s.

::The last Python was manufactured approximately six years ago. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Still outta production than. If I recall right, for a while it was outta generael production, but could be special ordered.

Yes the last five or six years it had to be ordered through the custom shop.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

The Python, and The Anaconda, where the best revolvers Colt made since the SAA imho-AC

IMO, the Official Police and Detective Special should be included as well. -SasquatchJim

Too bad that still fully loaded .50 next to the tank is too heavy to take back [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

If he can walk and ride a horse with a 90lb bag on his back like its nothing, he could carry a M2.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

And he brought buddies with him to GET that bag he left behind. They can lug around an M2 with ammo. Sure it doesn't look like there's any extra, but it's an M2 with AMMO! [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

But honestly, what would be the purpose, in this story? I mean, they're already getting guns and ammo, and it's not like you need a lot of penetration to kill a zombie, so they don't really need a .50 caliber machinegun. All it would really do was kill a couple of zombies while making a shitload of noise, attracting every zombie in a mile radius. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 05:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

: I bet one would've come in handy on top of the camper during the attack on the camp. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 04:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::Possibly (I posted that before I saw that episode, sorry.), though I doubt any of them have any training or even any practice with military grade machine guns, and so I'm betting that during the chaos of the attack, they would have killed more of their own people. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 02:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
::: Woulda been kinda hard to use that thing in the dark, too, since the only source of light is that campfire. Scoring headshots on zombies without friendly fire in a situation like that? No way even TV-land can pull THAT one off.

Talking about scavenging guns, even when they were rushing back to the vehicles in front of the CDC wouldn't it have been a good idea to at least grab a couple of the discarded weapons lying around out front?

==Vatos==
Ok, tonight I think I've seen a S&W model 10, a Colt Detective Special, and possibly a S&W mosel 28 in the hands of the mexican gangsters and it looks like T-Dog was using a BAR. The bag had some Sigs and Glocks and Daryl had a Remington 870 and I think that Rick is using a Mossberg 590 not a 500. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Just so everyone knows, I didn't edit the page tonight, I just wrote on here. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Daryl took at least one Sig from the bag. T-Dog used a Mossberg later, but I think his scoped rifle was a BAR. The shotty Glenn ended up with, looked the same as Daryl's. Also, Shane drew his pistol at one point, but it was hard to see.-AC
==Daryl's Crossbow==
Daryl Dixon's crossbow is a Horton Scout HD 125: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2817217&cid=CSE:GoogleProductSearch. In the fourth episode "Vatos", when Daryl points it a T-dog on the roof you can see the faded Horton logo on the front. Scout 125 can be seen above the trigger after the camera angle changes.

::Picture added and changes made. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Was that an XD? ==

The handgun, that Daryl takes from the bag of guns. At first I thought it was a SIG, but after rewatching it, I think it may have been a Springfield Army XD.
-AC

Nope, definitely a bi-tone Sig of some kind.

Yeah, the XDs don't have all that stuff on the side of the gun and the slide is actually more Glock like than the more rounder Sig slides [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) inspects a bi-tone Sig Sauer handgun from his bag of guns.]]

- ZeoRanger5 17:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

that looks like a SIG-sauer P226 or P228. simmons 8492

I agree with simmons 8492, i'd say p228 myself.

How did you think that was an XD?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 14:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Not sure. When I stuck it in his waistband, it looked like a combination between a Sig, and a Glock. As far as handguns go, I'd say the XD is closest to that description. Course I was rather sleep deprived at the time.-AC

i also think that in episode 5 shane pulls what looks to be a sig when the sister is coming back to life . im not sure because i know shane has a glock but this isnt in the holster , its carried mexican style and is only seen for seconds. can some one verify ?[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Rick also pulls a gun carried similarily in that scene. Ricks looked like a Glock.

but shanes looks more like a sig or something .[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Some ones gotta move that pic into the 228 spot.[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

:It's not a P228. The screencap doesn't show it well, but I checked the episode again, and it's possible to see that it has the squared trigger guard of the P226, rather than rounded, as on a P228. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

==Faking recoil==

Its a littlle overdone but nice to see it (a HP in 9mm doesnt kick as much as shown, but its better than most shows, and handling is pretty good or tv.

may be because he hasent realy fired a 9mm in a while he wasnt use to it or because hes used to the revovler

That makes no sense, .357 Magnum (I'm guessing thats what is loaded) has alot more kick, if he can handle a .357 than he could easily handle a 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 23:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

and im sure that a python has more kick than that highpower . and being that he killed a hand full of zombies with that in the first episode it wont matter .-[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

:Just a FYI, its Hi Power, not High Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

/AUA

Since most people don't know the distinction between a Hi-Power and a Colt M1911, and the show is known to have certain..flaws when it comes to reality, they could have just been assuming that it was a .45, and Hollywood logic states that if it's larger than 9mm, it makes your wrist fly up and sends bad guys flying.

Or it was just because they wanted Rick to seem cool with a stainless steel firearm (like his Colt Python, which he points at other survivors so often, it could be a drinking game).

But being seriously, this is the same show where Glocks have external, slide-mounted safeties in the US and headshots can be made off-hand with a sidearm at 50 meters while running.

AUA/

:I haven't been able to watch the series only the first episode (no cable) but... The Python is a heavy revolver and could be loaded with .38 Specials. Also with the Hi-Power being a semi-auto and able to shoot more rapidly. Would have more perceived recoil. Seeing guys on YouTube handle .45s with very little recoil, it's shotguns and full auto rifles where movies get recoil wrong. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

==DShK heavy machine gun?==

I believe there was an abandoned DShK heavy machine gun flanked by sandbags when they headed towards the CDC building by the looks of the muzzle. (This was the best episode so far, I think.) - Angel_956

Most likely a mocked up M2 but I definatly saw that distinct muzzle brake.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I added a cap but you cannot really tell one way or another if it is a mock up or not. Either way...it makes no sense for it to be there in the first place!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why would an outdated Soviet Union machine gun even be in the show, but it might be cleared up in the next episode. I clearly remember the guy in the CDC building saying something about some French soilders, I think. If so it might of meant that there was an international response to the zombie outbreak, trying to control it, explaining the DShK. [[User:Angel_956|Angel_956]]

:Now your just over-analyzing, it's in all likeliness what they used because it's what was available to use when they were shooting the scene. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

:Maybe somebody "requisitioned" (read: looted) it from the National Infantry Museum or Fort Benning; both are in or around Columbus, GA, which isn't exactly close to Atlanta, but it's the closest place I can think of where you might plausibly find a DShK. When you need more HMGs, you grab what's available. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 20:18, 24 June 2011 (CDT)

Weird though, since they oviously had M2s available for filming.-AC

:Not necessarily. Armorers can change during filming and weapons may not be available even though they were previously. Also remember that only the first episode had the M2 so the armorer could have changed since then. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

My thought was militia that made a last stand with the army to protect the people gathering at the CDC (notice the weapon is surrounded by bodies in civilian clothes), the DShK having been purchased by one of the members (legitimately or otherwise) and subsequently put to use following the outbreak. - Wolfblade670

== Daryl's knife ==

In the third episode, when Daryl is told about his brother, he attacks Rick with some sort of hunting or combat knife. He's later seen with it in a sheath on his left thigh, and you get a fairly close (But very brief) look at it when they're walking through the building at the beginning of the forth episode. Anyone have any clue what it is? I mean, from the brief glimpse I got of it in the forth episode, it looked like it was possibly a TOPS Steel Eagle 107C, the same kind of knife that the character Royce had sheathed in Predators, but I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm, or give an alternative? [[User:Acora|Acora]] 07:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== What kind of gun did he give Morales? ==

He said it was a .357, but I have no idea what it was.-AC

/AUA

He held it in his hand for a profile shot; maybe you should try screencapping it at that point and going from there. There should be an ID for it though, unlike Morgan's snubnose.

AUA/

I lack the equipment needed to screencap.-AC

/AUA

Use IrfanView (freeware) or the PrtScn button on your computer (press it on the frame you want to capture, and then paste it into Paint to crop it).

AUA/

I think it's a Smith and Wesson 586 [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

== Rick's second shotgun.==

After Rick gives the 590 (it wasn't a 500, someone should change that) to Guillermo, he uses one with an 18 inch barrel, a blued type finish and wood furniture. I think some people commented on it being a Mossberg, but it has a rounded bolt like a Remington 870. However, it's not an 870 since the trigger guard isn't round enough, the magazine tube is longer than the standard 4 shot tube, and it doesn't have an extension attached, and the wood furniture has a single rib on the side for gripping. After doing some research, my best guess is that it's an earlier H&R Pardner Pump, possibly in some sort of police configuration. I know it's neither a Mossberg or a Remington, though.

It's indeed an H&R Pardner Pump. The humpback receiver is unmistakable. [Ballistics_Expert2]

/AUA

I'd PrtScn/screencap the shotgun in question before making any comparisons. We still haven't definitively IDed Dale's bolt-action, so maybe you should get one of that as well.

AUA/

We still have Merles bolt-action as well.
-AC

This cap from the page will suffice:

[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Remigton, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]

And a link to a Pardner Pump configured similarly:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj131/TRguy/Guns/NEFPardnerPumpYouth8-12-10.jpg

A few things distinguishing the shotgun in the picture as a Pardner Pump as opposed to an 870, 500 series, or whatever:

-Some type of thin rib on the top of the barrel.
-The foregrip has the distinctive groove in it as seen on the Pardner Pump.
-The agnle that the receiver curves at the butt end is a sharper angle rather than a bend type (you can tell by the shadow).
-The magazine tube is longer than a 4 shot, but it's not screwed on like other models, nor does the endcap and barrel link resemble that of other models.

Some other things that you can't notice in the picture, like the flatter trigger guard or a good shot of the angled receiver, are seen in the series very easily, namely in Episode 5 during Rick and Shane's patrol, when this cap takes place, and one instance in Episode 6 where the doctor is drawing blood and the gun is sitting behind Rick as he waits. This good enough? --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 10:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

::I think you're right, it's not a Remington, Mossberg, or a Winchester. It looks like a Pardner, more like the Pardner pump compact, due to the shorter barrell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

-Rick's first shotgun was a 500 with the extended tube. It didn't have the bayonet lug, just check some of the promo pics on imbd.com - [[User:MarkXIX|MarkXIX]]

Ah, so it is, I could have sworn I saw the 590s tube cap on it. I can notice a buncha stuff on an H&R, but I get that wrong, lol. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 17:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

==Think its funny==

Rick misses several close range shots (so do long gun toting officers) in the beginning against chase suspects, then later in series hes nailing headshots left and right....

Noticed that too, although zombies don't shoot back. They just charge straight ahead.

/AUA

It's a screenplay-direction thing. The show is already a bit overdramatized in general, so little things like the 'clip' and 'safety' dialogue or the headshot ratio aren't really all that important to the screenwriters, at least not compared with inserting dramatic bits into it.

AUA/

When the police were shooting the chase suspects, their targets were live people. An accurate marksman or not, if you're not used to firing live rounds at live humans your subconscious may not want you to hit that kill shot. Zombies are different.

also he has had weeks of shooting live targets ie the zombies so he as probaly leared to shot them really well --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:21, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

/AUA

Unless you're superhuman, you can't learn how to make a shot that is off-hand, behind you, at a 1.5 x 1 ft target at 50 meters, while RUNNING, in a few weeks. Few people would be able to make that shot, period. The gate-zombie shots were just...unfeasible.

AUA/

*Well it is a show about the dead walking around and eating the flesh of the living. I'm willing to overlook the amazing skill that Rick displays with headshots.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:28, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

==Question about Shane's shotgun technique==
Just a question for those who may know, is it considered proper technique to hold the gun that high on the shoulder, with his cheek resting on the receiver? I figuered it was an adjustmant made due to the M4-style stock, as Rick and other survivors wielding unmodified weapons don't do this.

: I noticed that too, I figured it was just the actor's preference (possibly due to inexperience) but I guess it could be because of the M4 stock. I dunno. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 01:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

:It's standard practice in the US military. They teach you to ride the stock high so that your sights are level with your eyes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 13:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thats with the M16/M4, not a shotgun.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

:the stock on the shotgun is a Knoxx Industries SpecOps NRS Shotgun Stock

::My dad has one on his 870.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

-i noticed that . i dont think that stock has a single thing to do with it . it probably prefrances [[user:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

==Series Finale==

I noticed a nickel finished pistol tucked into Daryl's waistband mexican style early on in the episode, looked like a SIG.
I'm thinking that Daryl's pistol was probably the same Hi-Power Rick took off merle in episode 2.

Does any one else think the grenade description is a bit of a spoiler as it is a deus ex machina. I suggest only saying it is used in episode 6 and not how. I know this has absoloutely nothing to do with firearms but i loved the ax decapitation amidst the headshots at the end --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

:The grenade wasn't a deus ex machina, but a textbook example of Chekhov's gun. He found it in the first episode even. It would have been a deus ex machina if they found it there.(I expected him to actually bring it out against the guys in the city in episode 3, myself)--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 08:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, New guy here. When Jenner allows the the others to enter the facility at the start of the episode, he's seen holding an M4, and he mentions that "There're a lot of these lying around. I familiarized myself." And yet, none of the others ever even think of finding a couple of the guns for themselves. Shame, considering a couple of those and a few mags would've come in pretty handy outside (especially if there was a suppressor to be found) Anyone else bugged by this?

They've been sitting outside for like a month. The M4 is a fine, gun, but you need to clean it regularly.-AC

:Only if your in the desert sand, sitting around like that outside would be fine but not how I would store my guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I was definitely bugged by this fact. Supposedly a lot of M4s and 30 round magazines lying around, and Jenner's the only guy who has one. But then again the supply of ammo might've been low, considering everything that'd happened. [[Ballistics_Expert2]]

first off all there are no M4A1`s seen inside all out side wicth iswere he probily got it second they were only out side for a few momints ehter runing away from the bulding or trying to get in before they are over welbed with zombies tird as he said ammo is preety rare as you can see when they are out side there are hunderdes of dead zombies witch had to be killed by something --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 19:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== To Do List. ==

1. Shotguns used by deputies in opening shootout.
2. Morgans revolver.
3. Merles rifle.
4. The guns, Rick, and Shane pull after Amy turns.
5. The gun given to Morales.
6. Daryls handgun.
7. Whether Shanes Glock is a 17 or 19.
8. Whether Ricks first shotty was a 500 or a 590.
9. Ricks second shotty.

I miss anything?-AC

==Short Season Huh?==

At least season 2 will be twice as long, whenever they get around to making it.....

At least there will be a seaon two, I thought this was a miniseries at first and was very dissapointed that it was over so soon. [[Special:Contributions/67.187.27.89|67.187.27.89]] 01:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

It's definately already in production. Normally when a series gets picked up production on the second season gets rolling ASAP. This became a pretty popular show, show I'm guessing AMC got the ball rolling right away when they realized they had demand for the show. Anyone here read the graphic novel series? I want to try and get into it but want to know if it's worth the time and money--[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 05:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

They really are worth it. I buy the trade paperbacks, they are like $12.00 a book. There are 13 of them up to now. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Personaaly i prefer the graphic novels. Dont get me wrong i love the series, but the comics are much more grim and dark, in the series everyone seems to be more willing to get along and its more zombie orientated, the comics are much more grim, its about the characters and in the comic no characters are safe, even mainstay ones. The tv series feels slightly more commercialised and main characters have outlived their comic book life already. I do love the tv version, and darly dixion is the best non comic character creation to be added to the series, I just hope Carl gets a gun next series, that said and cant belive i have to wait till october to see series 2.- Captain Snikt [[Special:Contributions/109.157.4.163|109.157.4.163]] 23:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Popular Cop Guns ==
An answer above said that the Glock was "a very common cop gun, in both hollywood, and real life." This is true, but I was wondering if their were any other cop guns in hollywood and in real life that are as popular as the Glock.--[[User:MarineCorps1|MarineCorps1]] 21:49, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The Beretta 92 is the only one that comes to mind for me. -SasquatchJim.

:There aren't too many police depts issuing the Beretta 92F anymore, even though Hollywood still shows them being carried by cops. Anyway, Glock holds just under 2/3rds of the U.S. law enforcement market, SIG-Sauer holds about 1/3rd, and a number of other makes (S&W, H&K, Beretta, etc.) are constantly fighting each other for what's left. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

SIG-Sauer P226, S&W M19/66, AR-15, and many more... --[[User:nkingman|nkingman]]

Ah, that's right.
Some older ones include the S&W Model 10, S&W Model 28, Colt Trooper, and a 12 gauge pump shotgun (namely a Remington 870.)
Another new one is the S&W M&P -SasquatchJim

There was once a time when the S&W Model 15/67, the S&W Model 13/65. Colt Official Police, Ruger Six Series revolvers, the S&W Model 19/66 and the Colt Lawman/Trooper Mk III were also very popular Cop revolvers.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:40, 28 March 2011 (CDT)

== Flash suppressor on M4A1 ==

Did anyone else notice the flash suppressor on the M4A1 held by the soldier that gets grabbed is different than normal?
:I thought it was a nongun.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.179.105|129.89.179.105]] 01:22, 19 December 2010 (UTC)(thePotShot)
::Just for reference,
::[[Image:M4A1nongun.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M4A1 Non Gun]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it's a Non Gun M4. Look at the range at which he's shooting at his comrades. Blanks are dangerous if an actor is shooting at other actors who are that close, so they probably had to use the Non Gun instead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:Actually, the Aimpoint M68 CCO (in this case I believe it is a Comp M2 or ML2) can be used with the foreward lens cover closed. Used in this method, it forms an occuladed eye-sight, which were one of the first types of weapons optics employed. Using an occuladed eye-sight is very similar in principle to the BAC method employed in some Trijicon ACOGs, both eyes are left open and due to the way the brain processes images from the eye, what the left (or right eye sees) downrange has the red dot from the other eye (which is looking down the sight) superimposed on it. This is useful as there are rumors that the red dot (particularly in the Aimpoint family) can in fact be detected from in front of the weapon due to the intensity of the light, espiecially in night battle conditions. So the sceintist might really know what he is doing, but it is just as likely it was a mistake by the prop department.[[User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 22:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== I liked Rick's reaction when he pulled the pin on the grenade in the last episode ==

He was thinkin "ohshitohshitohshitohshit" and then hauled ass outta there haha. I liked that little detail, along with him getting knocked off his feet as he tried to get as far away from it as possible, instead of the clichè "walk slowly towards the camera as a bomb goes off behind you with a bad-ass grimace on your face". This show had a lot of nice little details like that. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 03:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I liked that too. i hate when like the everyday joe can slowly walk away from a huge explosion,[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

Talk:The Walking Dead (TV Series)

2011-06-25T12:28:27Z

Euromutt: /* Crappy dialogue */

==OTHER==
That's Norman Reedus with the crossbow. He plays Daryl Dixon, who was not in the actual comic that I can recall. I like that though, he's a cool actor. I'm also a little bummed that they didn't use the guns drawn in the comics. Rick uses a HK mk.23. For those of you who might think that it's impossible to tell that from the comic the artist wrote HK MK.23 on the barrel. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:I read some where that the Walker are attracted to loud noises. that might be why he is carrying a crossbow

It is smart to use a crossbow; because it saves on bullets and in most all undead literature and movies the undead always react and swarm when they hear a gunshot. Very good show, have never read the comic but look forward to.-GoshMr.Peabody

It's pretty amazing. I recommend buying the trade paperbacks. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Whoa==
I loved the comic, when the hell did it get a tv show?

The idea was revealed a while ago. It comes out on Halloween. -SasquatchJim

honestly , its like two hours till the show ,i cant wait. simmons 8492

Well it kept my interest. I'll watch it again next week to see if it can maintain the momentum.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

honestly it took some time to realy get things going , but now hes in a populated zone with other survivers . and if i was him id start that tank up! simmons 8492

I coulda sworn the 50 on that tank was still loaded with ammo and in the next scene, it had no ammo [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Just watched it again. The .50 on the tank doesn't appear to be loaded, but there's another one in a sandbag fort that is, in the foreground as he goes by. -IGemini 04:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

iv watched it from the start and i have to say its great simmons 8492

== Crappy dialogue ==

In the trailer, one of the cops told the other to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off. First off, the man he was talking to, had a Glock, so no safety. And since he's a trained cop, ready to open fire on a suspect that's hostile, why wouldn't he have a round in the chamber and his gun ready to go? That line just threw me off [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, just watched it. Its brilliant, easily as good as the comic. The 'crappy dialogue above does jar a little tho. Hes telling him to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off as it is implied the officer in question is a bit useless, however after doing a brass check the officer in question then presses down on the slide release (even tho the slide is forward) as if to pretend it is the saftey catch. Morgan has a 5 shot snub revolver (which someone else will have to identify as im not too good with em). Rick pull a 92fs (standing in for an m9) from a dead soldiers shoulder holster at the end of the episode, and i'm fairly sure the SIG is a tutone P228 or 229 not a P239 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

:Maybe Basset is so damn useless that he hasn't even figured out that Glocks don't come with manual safeties... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:28, 25 June 2011 (CDT)

The funny thing about the thing with the safety is that you can hear the sound of a safety being click off.--[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 04:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Remember that the dialogue was written long before it was decided the cop would be holding a Glock(unless the writer is Michael Mann). So maybe the round in the chamber thing may have been unwarranted, but maybe he was a rookie, he did seem sort of skittish. Regardless, it's unfair to call ''that'' crappy dialogue. I think you're letting your knowledge of guns get in the way of enjoying good stories.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 04:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Dont know if its worth noting, but the cop he tells that too, is actually, the first zombie he ends up shooting, after leaving the police station. Rick commented he was careless and dumb, so reminding him, makes sense.

And, of course, Rick committed a cardinal sin; he referred to a magazine as a clip :P -SasquatchJim

I'm not surprised, Sasqatch. The cop I talked to called his Glock 17 a "Glock 9". I'm sure he would have said clip to. Not all cops are into guns. Haha

==SIG P239==

[[Image:WalkingDead-SIGP239.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P239 at police.]]

This doesn't look like a P239 to me; more like a P226 or P228. It's too big, and it has nickel controls (which the two-tone P239s don't have). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:P228 because of the slide length. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::Remember, on low resolution screencaps like the ones I had to use, feel free to correct the Gun IDs. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
::: Watching the scene I agree that it is somewhat larger. Sounds fine to me - I'll change it. The first episode was pretty good. I'm adding a Beretta 92FS (M9) entry - Grimes indeed takes one off a 'dead' soldier inside the Abrams tank he gets into, as noted by the above section. Also, I never did get a good glance at the snub revolver, though I'm fairly certain it's a S&W. They're replaying the show so I'll keep an eye for it, and some of the other guns. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

==Spoiler Comment and Morgan's Revolver==
Its nice to see the page updated but arn't some of the descriptions (mainly the colt python) a bit spoilerific for anyone who hasn't watched it yet? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Whoa, yes they are, I sure as hell didn't add those. :b I'll reword them somewhat. Also! The revolver Morgan uses is a Snub S&W Model 66, I can almost guarantee it. Bah, wish I could get screencaps. Still, I'll add that as well. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 04:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure its a 66? I remember it having a 5 round cylinder --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I grabbed this off my skyplus box so sorry bout the quality [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2i700fm.jpg[/IMG] Any use, its definatly a 5 shot--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: I could have ''sworn'' it was a S&W. But it's definitely not a Model 66, since there's no rear adj. sights, nor of course a 6-shot cylinder. But Smith snubbie J-frames (5-shot) all have flat 'bull-nose' ejector rod shrouds, not curved. Bah, now I'm kinda stumped. My best guess at this point would probably be a [[Ruger SP101]]. Convert that image there to JPG and upload it on the site. It's not great, but it's better than nothing. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

::Looks like it could also be either the [[Taurus Model 617]] or possibly a stainless steel [[Taurus Model 85]]. Biu it is difficult.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

From the barrel it looks like an early Taurus Model 85 in stainless or nickel plated. It was a five shot cylinder definitely.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: After posting I did consider it being a Taurus, many of them are awfully S&W looking to begin with. I doubt it's a 617 but it easily could be an 85. Hell, could be anything for all I know at this point. I guess it'll just be another 'unidentified' until we get more/better screencaps. I'll modify the S&W 66 entry I posted and just call it un-ID'd snub revolver, noting the 5-shot capacity and stating the possible choices. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I am almost certain it is actually a Ruger SP101, two inch model. No other snubbie, as far as I know, has the upper rear of the frame shaped into a rear sight notch like the SP101, as both of those Taurus models just lack rear sights - you can check the Taurus website as both models lack a "rear sight" category under specifications. Also, if you check out the behind the scenes vid [http://www.amctv.com/originals/The-Walking-Dead/?bclid=625294007001&bcpid=111717822001&bctid=628200502001 here], there is a pretty decent side shot of the revolver. The general shape is very close to a SP101, and even from the front, the lines on Morgan's triggerguard and barrel are cut much closer semi-melted look on the SP than the very sharp ones on a Taurus oR S&W.

All said, the easiest way to tell would be if they showed the damned cylinder release at some point. --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 07:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC) (Corrected typo --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 02:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC))

: It's not an SP101. The recoil shield shown is a simple traditional shape, not the bulkier contours Rugers have in that part of the frame. Also, the ejector rod shroud is cut back more sharply from the muzzle, and the revolver in the show seems to lack the small hole on the front of the frame for the front crane lock. [[User:Rule .303|Rule .303]] 14:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Judging by the screens uploaded I'd say definately not a 617, 617 is a 7-shot, also can't see a ported barrel. Still think it's a Taurus though. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

If you watch the Making of the Walking dead Season 1 it shows the side of the revolver.. Looks exactly like the Ruger SP101 from Breaking Bad. I'm guessing its the same prop. (Just like I think the RV is. )

== What kind of tank was that? ==

Its oviously a stand-in for an M-1 but I'm not sure what it is. I'm thinking possibly a Chieftain, but I'm not sure. Also, note that a real M-1 woulnd't have worked for the scene since it lacks the floor escape hatch.

-AC.

At this point I'm not sure, but I do suspect it's the same tank that shows up in ''[[Zombieland]]''. Both shows are filmed in Georgia and the voice-over commentary on ''Zombieland'' states that the tank is owned by a private collector.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Definately a Chieftain.

: I concur, Chieftains are often used (mocked-up) as stand-ins for Abrams tanks. I also noticed the bottom escape hatch, which as far as I can recall, indeed isn't on an actual Abrams. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

''Other comments posted on main page-''

(Perhaps it is just me, but the Abrams featured in this appears to be a mocked up British Chieftain Tank, I didn't get a good look at the tank but it didn't seem to be a genuine Abrams, although it could simply be an older pattern M1 without the TUSK upgrade, reactive armor and the more apparent loaders hatch. Yet that would not explain the escape hatch.- Doc345)

Older M1s didn't look that diffrent, from the later ones, aside from the most recent upgardes.

Also, the angle of the frontal turret armor is wrong to be an M1.

I think this may be the same tank which appeared in, among other series, Jericho. The vehicle, if I remember correctly, is built on an old Centurion chasis to resemble an Abrams with some obvious differences. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

On a random note, where was a Striker seen in the episode? It says on the page that there was one with a fifty cal on it, but aside from the tank, the only other military vehicles I saw where some HMMWVs, what looked like a deuce, and a half, and some abandone Hueys.

Intrestingly, in the trailor, the one Rick first sees after leaving the hospital lacked a rotor blade making me think it was edited in post-production. Also, the one off to Ricks left appears to still be lacking one.

-AC

at the begging seen when the main cerictor walkes out of the hospital he sees a ebandoned military equpent you can see a Stryker IFV --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 21:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
heres a picture
[[Image:The walking dead.png]]

I can say without a doubt that the 'M1' ''is'' a Chieftain, not a Centurion. The long sloping frontal 'nose' armour, the front idler wheel and the lockers/storage bins are features of the Chieftain, not the Centurion. Not too sure about the 'escape hatch' though. I wonder if this is the same 'M1' that appears in the 2010 remake of Red Dawn? It looks the same to me. [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]

== Things I noticed ==

Did anybody else notice that when Morgan cocked the hammer back on his gun and threatened to shoot Grimes if he didn't talk, the cylinder didn't advance to the next chamber like it should?

And what about Grimes' personal arsenal in his backpack? Is it safe to assume that rubber/resin mockups? He was getting bounced pretty hard by that horse and the guns kept bumping him in the back. That's at least 40 pounds of gear to be carrying around.

More than safe to assume that. Most of them even appeared to have solid barrels. Probably rubber.--[[Special:Contributions/99.48.50.70|99.48.50.70]] 04:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

The cylinder did rotate, I remembered that happening when I watched the scene. As far as the bag -o- guns, I have no idea. If they were all rubber, they were modeled after some hard to find shotgun configurations and looked very real. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 20:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

According to Grimes in episode 3 his duffle bag was holding six shotguns, two "high powered" rifles, a dozen handguns, and 700 rounds of assorted ammo. That's easily 80-90 pounds of gear. There's no way Grimes could be carrying that around in one hand with a gas can in the other. Or getting bucked and having the bag sag to the side and the stuff not come falling out.

Did anybody else notice that Dale seemed to switch between carrying a rifle with a sling, to carrying one without a sling between scenes?

== I rewatched the first episode. ==

Two of the Sheriffs deputys from the neighboring county had shotguns. One looked like and 870 Remington. The other looked like a Mossberg.

The gun used to shoot Rick, I'm pretty sure was either 1911, or a Glock. It seemed to have an extended slide.

-AC

:: I noticed the shotguns too but it was hard to get a decent look at them, mainly the second one (Mossberg I guess). I will concur at least one of the other shotguns was indeed a standard 870. No idea what the pistol is/was. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Almost positive the other two deputys, from the neighboring county had Glocks, like the other deputys from Ricks department.

You can see one of the shotguns fairly well, after Rick gots shot, one of the two deputys joins Shane in trying to help Rick. Like Shane, he drops his gun, and it can be seen fairly well.

Looking at the pick on here, I'm more positive than ever that the last gunmans weapon was a 1911.
Good eye on my part, since it was litreally visible for like less than a second.-AC.

==Andrea's gun==
I believe Andrea is packing a Smith and Wesson 3913 Ladysmith [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:I concur. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

Here's a good picture. http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-2-rick-andrea.php
[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:: I also agree about it being a 3913 Ladysmith. We also saw a M67 'baseball' grenade in this latest episode (actually the training version, you could still spot some blue paint on it). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== What kind of rifle did Meryl have? ==

Looked like possibly a Model 70, but I'm bad at identifing bolt actions.
-AC

Seriously, does anyone know what kind of rifle he had?-AC

Compare the bolt heads (or whatever the end of the bolt closest to the butt is called); the Remington 700 seems to have more of a protruding portion, while the Mod. 70 is tucked in and more square-like.

At least, that's what it seems like. There used to be a generic page for comparing Bolt-Action Rifles, like the shotguns have now. Where did that page go?

Here it is.

[[Bolt Action Rifles - Most common Sporting Models|Scoped Bolt Action Hunting Rifles]]. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

==Shane's Pistol==
Can anyone identify the pistol Shane is carrying? It looks like either a Glock or possibly a Sig Pro. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Probally a Gock. There very common cop guns, in both hollywood, and real life. Also, severael of the cops, at opening shootout had them, so evedently the prophouse they went to had some.
-AC

Definitely a Glock. Although it's only shown briefly, it looks like a 17. He carries it in a thumb break holster.

Picture of him holding it: http://blogs.amctv.com/photo-galleries/the-walking-dead-season-1-episode-photos/episode-4-carl-lori-shane-morales.php

After looking at the screenshot on the main page, can anyone identify the holster?

In the finale you can see its a Glock 19. Not 17. (Also the firing M4s looked like they had blank firing adapters as flashiders)

==Merle==

It's Merle not Maryl or Marle

==Guts==
I really like how Rick actually checks the dead soldier's vest for more ammo instead of just taking the weapon like every other film. I also like how when his Beretta runs dry he doesn't toss it away like some generic action hero but he keeps it and stows it in Glenn's backpack. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that was good stuff. Have yet to see the Beretta again though. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

:Did you also notice that his [[Colt Python]] is still in his hoslter even though he ran out of ammo for it? I liked that touch as well. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

You never know what you might find ammo for at a latter date.-AC
::Which he does in the third episode. Anyway Python's are too expensive to be tossing away on a whim. Even after the Zombie Apocalypse has happened. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

If I recall right they've been outta production since the late 90s.

::The last Python was manufactured approximately six years ago. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Still outta production than. If I recall right, for a while it was outta generael production, but could be special ordered.

Yes the last five or six years it had to be ordered through the custom shop.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

The Python, and The Anaconda, where the best revolvers Colt made since the SAA imho-AC

IMO, the Official Police and Detective Special should be included as well. -SasquatchJim

Too bad that still fully loaded .50 next to the tank is too heavy to take back [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

If he can walk and ride a horse with a 90lb bag on his back like its nothing, he could carry a M2.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

And he brought buddies with him to GET that bag he left behind. They can lug around an M2 with ammo. Sure it doesn't look like there's any extra, but it's an M2 with AMMO! [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

But honestly, what would be the purpose, in this story? I mean, they're already getting guns and ammo, and it's not like you need a lot of penetration to kill a zombie, so they don't really need a .50 caliber machinegun. All it would really do was kill a couple of zombies while making a shitload of noise, attracting every zombie in a mile radius. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 05:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

: I bet one would've come in handy on top of the camper during the attack on the camp. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 04:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::Possibly (I posted that before I saw that episode, sorry.), though I doubt any of them have any training or even any practice with military grade machine guns, and so I'm betting that during the chaos of the attack, they would have killed more of their own people. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 02:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
::: Woulda been kinda hard to use that thing in the dark, too, since the only source of light is that campfire. Scoring headshots on zombies without friendly fire in a situation like that? No way even TV-land can pull THAT one off.

Talking about scavenging guns, even when they were rushing back to the vehicles in front of the CDC wouldn't it have been a good idea to at least grab a couple of the discarded weapons lying around out front?

==Vatos==
Ok, tonight I think I've seen a S&W model 10, a Colt Detective Special, and possibly a S&W mosel 28 in the hands of the mexican gangsters and it looks like T-Dog was using a BAR. The bag had some Sigs and Glocks and Daryl had a Remington 870 and I think that Rick is using a Mossberg 590 not a 500. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Just so everyone knows, I didn't edit the page tonight, I just wrote on here. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Daryl took at least one Sig from the bag. T-Dog used a Mossberg later, but I think his scoped rifle was a BAR. The shotty Glenn ended up with, looked the same as Daryl's. Also, Shane drew his pistol at one point, but it was hard to see.-AC
==Daryl's Crossbow==
Daryl Dixon's crossbow is a Horton Scout HD 125: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2817217&cid=CSE:GoogleProductSearch. In the fourth episode "Vatos", when Daryl points it a T-dog on the roof you can see the faded Horton logo on the front. Scout 125 can be seen above the trigger after the camera angle changes.

::Picture added and changes made. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Was that an XD? ==

The handgun, that Daryl takes from the bag of guns. At first I thought it was a SIG, but after rewatching it, I think it may have been a Springfield Army XD.
-AC

Nope, definitely a bi-tone Sig of some kind.

Yeah, the XDs don't have all that stuff on the side of the gun and the slide is actually more Glock like than the more rounder Sig slides [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) inspects a bi-tone Sig Sauer handgun from his bag of guns.]]

- ZeoRanger5 17:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

that looks like a SIG-sauer P226 or P228. simmons 8492

I agree with simmons 8492, i'd say p228 myself.

How did you think that was an XD?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 14:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Not sure. When I stuck it in his waistband, it looked like a combination between a Sig, and a Glock. As far as handguns go, I'd say the XD is closest to that description. Course I was rather sleep deprived at the time.-AC

i also think that in episode 5 shane pulls what looks to be a sig when the sister is coming back to life . im not sure because i know shane has a glock but this isnt in the holster , its carried mexican style and is only seen for seconds. can some one verify ?[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Rick also pulls a gun carried similarily in that scene. Ricks looked like a Glock.

but shanes looks more like a sig or something .[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Some ones gotta move that pic into the 228 spot.[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

:It's not a P228. The screencap doesn't show it well, but I checked the episode again, and it's possible to see that it has the squared trigger guard of the P226, rather than rounded, as on a P228. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

==Faking recoil==

Its a littlle overdone but nice to see it (a HP in 9mm doesnt kick as much as shown, but its better than most shows, and handling is pretty good or tv.

may be because he hasent realy fired a 9mm in a while he wasnt use to it or because hes used to the revovler

That makes no sense, .357 Magnum (I'm guessing thats what is loaded) has alot more kick, if he can handle a .357 than he could easily handle a 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 23:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

and im sure that a python has more kick than that highpower . and being that he killed a hand full of zombies with that in the first episode it wont matter .-[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

:Just a FYI, its Hi Power, not High Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

/AUA

Since most people don't know the distinction between a Hi-Power and a Colt M1911, and the show is known to have certain..flaws when it comes to reality, they could have just been assuming that it was a .45, and Hollywood logic states that if it's larger than 9mm, it makes your wrist fly up and sends bad guys flying.

Or it was just because they wanted Rick to seem cool with a stainless steel firearm (like his Colt Python, which he points at other survivors so often, it could be a drinking game).

But being seriously, this is the same show where Glocks have external, slide-mounted safeties in the US and headshots can be made off-hand with a sidearm at 50 meters while running.

AUA/

:I haven't been able to watch the series only the first episode (no cable) but... The Python is a heavy revolver and could be loaded with .38 Specials. Also with the Hi-Power being a semi-auto and able to shoot more rapidly. Would have more perceived recoil. Seeing guys on YouTube handle .45s with very little recoil, it's shotguns and full auto rifles where movies get recoil wrong. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

==DShK heavy machine gun?==

I believe there was an abandoned DShK heavy machine gun flanked by sandbags when they headed towards the CDC building by the looks of the muzzle. (This was the best episode so far, I think.) - Angel_956

Most likely a mocked up M2 but I definatly saw that distinct muzzle brake.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I added a cap but you cannot really tell one way or another if it is a mock up or not. Either way...it makes no sense for it to be there in the first place!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why would an outdated Soviet Union machine gun even be in the show, but it might be cleared up in the next episode. I clearly remember the guy in the CDC building saying something about some French soilders, I think. If so it might of meant that there was an international response to the zombie outbreak, trying to control it, explaining the DShK. [[User:Angel_956|Angel_956]]

:Now your just over-analyzing, it's in all likeliness what they used because it's what was available to use when they were shooting the scene. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

:Maybe somebody "requisitioned" (read: looted) it from the National Infantry Museum or Fort Benning; both are in or around Columbus, GA, which isn't exactly close to Atlanta, but it's the closest place I can think of where you might plausibly find a DShK. When you need more HMGs, you grab what's available. --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 20:18, 24 June 2011 (CDT)

Weird though, since they oviously had M2s available for filming.-AC

:Not necessarily. Armorers can change during filming and weapons may not be available even though they were previously. Also remember that only the first episode had the M2 so the armorer could have changed since then. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

My thought was militia that made a last stand with the army to protect the people gathering at the CDC (notice the weapon is surrounded by bodies in civilian clothes), the DShK having been purchased by one of the members (legitimately or otherwise) and subsequently put to use following the outbreak. - Wolfblade670

== Daryl's knife ==

In the third episode, when Daryl is told about his brother, he attacks Rick with some sort of hunting or combat knife. He's later seen with it in a sheath on his left thigh, and you get a fairly close (But very brief) look at it when they're walking through the building at the beginning of the forth episode. Anyone have any clue what it is? I mean, from the brief glimpse I got of it in the forth episode, it looked like it was possibly a TOPS Steel Eagle 107C, the same kind of knife that the character Royce had sheathed in Predators, but I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm, or give an alternative? [[User:Acora|Acora]] 07:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== What kind of gun did he give Morales? ==

He said it was a .357, but I have no idea what it was.-AC

/AUA

He held it in his hand for a profile shot; maybe you should try screencapping it at that point and going from there. There should be an ID for it though, unlike Morgan's snubnose.

AUA/

I lack the equipment needed to screencap.-AC

/AUA

Use IrfanView (freeware) or the PrtScn button on your computer (press it on the frame you want to capture, and then paste it into Paint to crop it).

AUA/

I think it's a Smith and Wesson 586 [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

== Rick's second shotgun.==

After Rick gives the 590 (it wasn't a 500, someone should change that) to Guillermo, he uses one with an 18 inch barrel, a blued type finish and wood furniture. I think some people commented on it being a Mossberg, but it has a rounded bolt like a Remington 870. However, it's not an 870 since the trigger guard isn't round enough, the magazine tube is longer than the standard 4 shot tube, and it doesn't have an extension attached, and the wood furniture has a single rib on the side for gripping. After doing some research, my best guess is that it's an earlier H&R Pardner Pump, possibly in some sort of police configuration. I know it's neither a Mossberg or a Remington, though.

It's indeed an H&R Pardner Pump. The humpback receiver is unmistakable. [Ballistics_Expert2]

/AUA

I'd PrtScn/screencap the shotgun in question before making any comparisons. We still haven't definitively IDed Dale's bolt-action, so maybe you should get one of that as well.

AUA/

We still have Merles bolt-action as well.
-AC

This cap from the page will suffice:

[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Remigton, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]

And a link to a Pardner Pump configured similarly:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj131/TRguy/Guns/NEFPardnerPumpYouth8-12-10.jpg

A few things distinguishing the shotgun in the picture as a Pardner Pump as opposed to an 870, 500 series, or whatever:

-Some type of thin rib on the top of the barrel.
-The foregrip has the distinctive groove in it as seen on the Pardner Pump.
-The agnle that the receiver curves at the butt end is a sharper angle rather than a bend type (you can tell by the shadow).
-The magazine tube is longer than a 4 shot, but it's not screwed on like other models, nor does the endcap and barrel link resemble that of other models.

Some other things that you can't notice in the picture, like the flatter trigger guard or a good shot of the angled receiver, are seen in the series very easily, namely in Episode 5 during Rick and Shane's patrol, when this cap takes place, and one instance in Episode 6 where the doctor is drawing blood and the gun is sitting behind Rick as he waits. This good enough? --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 10:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

::I think you're right, it's not a Remington, Mossberg, or a Winchester. It looks like a Pardner, more like the Pardner pump compact, due to the shorter barrell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

-Rick's first shotgun was a 500 with the extended tube. It didn't have the bayonet lug, just check some of the promo pics on imbd.com - [[User:MarkXIX|MarkXIX]]

Ah, so it is, I could have sworn I saw the 590s tube cap on it. I can notice a buncha stuff on an H&R, but I get that wrong, lol. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 17:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

==Think its funny==

Rick misses several close range shots (so do long gun toting officers) in the beginning against chase suspects, then later in series hes nailing headshots left and right....

Noticed that too, although zombies don't shoot back. They just charge straight ahead.

/AUA

It's a screenplay-direction thing. The show is already a bit overdramatized in general, so little things like the 'clip' and 'safety' dialogue or the headshot ratio aren't really all that important to the screenwriters, at least not compared with inserting dramatic bits into it.

AUA/

When the police were shooting the chase suspects, their targets were live people. An accurate marksman or not, if you're not used to firing live rounds at live humans your subconscious may not want you to hit that kill shot. Zombies are different.

also he has had weeks of shooting live targets ie the zombies so he as probaly leared to shot them really well --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:21, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

/AUA

Unless you're superhuman, you can't learn how to make a shot that is off-hand, behind you, at a 1.5 x 1 ft target at 50 meters, while RUNNING, in a few weeks. Few people would be able to make that shot, period. The gate-zombie shots were just...unfeasible.

AUA/

*Well it is a show about the dead walking around and eating the flesh of the living. I'm willing to overlook the amazing skill that Rick displays with headshots.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:28, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

==Question about Shane's shotgun technique==
Just a question for those who may know, is it considered proper technique to hold the gun that high on the shoulder, with his cheek resting on the receiver? I figuered it was an adjustmant made due to the M4-style stock, as Rick and other survivors wielding unmodified weapons don't do this.

: I noticed that too, I figured it was just the actor's preference (possibly due to inexperience) but I guess it could be because of the M4 stock. I dunno. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 01:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

:It's standard practice in the US military. They teach you to ride the stock high so that your sights are level with your eyes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 13:56, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thats with the M16/M4, not a shotgun.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

:the stock on the shotgun is a Knoxx Industries SpecOps NRS Shotgun Stock

::My dad has one on his 870.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

-i noticed that . i dont think that stock has a single thing to do with it . it probably prefrances [[user:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

==Series Finale==

I noticed a nickel finished pistol tucked into Daryl's waistband mexican style early on in the episode, looked like a SIG.
I'm thinking that Daryl's pistol was probably the same Hi-Power Rick took off merle in episode 2.

Does any one else think the grenade description is a bit of a spoiler as it is a deus ex machina. I suggest only saying it is used in episode 6 and not how. I know this has absoloutely nothing to do with firearms but i loved the ax decapitation amidst the headshots at the end --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

:The grenade wasn't a deus ex machina, but a textbook example of Chekhov's gun. He found it in the first episode even. It would have been a deus ex machina if they found it there.(I expected him to actually bring it out against the guys in the city in episode 3, myself)--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 08:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, New guy here. When Jenner allows the the others to enter the facility at the start of the episode, he's seen holding an M4, and he mentions that "There're a lot of these lying around. I familiarized myself." And yet, none of the others ever even think of finding a couple of the guns for themselves. Shame, considering a couple of those and a few mags would've come in pretty handy outside (especially if there was a suppressor to be found) Anyone else bugged by this?

They've been sitting outside for like a month. The M4 is a fine, gun, but you need to clean it regularly.-AC

:Only if your in the desert sand, sitting around like that outside would be fine but not how I would store my guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I was definitely bugged by this fact. Supposedly a lot of M4s and 30 round magazines lying around, and Jenner's the only guy who has one. But then again the supply of ammo might've been low, considering everything that'd happened. [[Ballistics_Expert2]]

first off all there are no M4A1`s seen inside all out side wicth iswere he probily got it second they were only out side for a few momints ehter runing away from the bulding or trying to get in before they are over welbed with zombies tird as he said ammo is preety rare as you can see when they are out side there are hunderdes of dead zombies witch had to be killed by something --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 19:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== To Do List. ==

1. Shotguns used by deputies in opening shootout.
2. Morgans revolver.
3. Merles rifle.
4. The guns, Rick, and Shane pull after Amy turns.
5. The gun given to Morales.
6. Daryls handgun.
7. Whether Shanes Glock is a 17 or 19.
8. Whether Ricks first shotty was a 500 or a 590.
9. Ricks second shotty.

I miss anything?-AC

==Short Season Huh?==

At least season 2 will be twice as long, whenever they get around to making it.....

At least there will be a seaon two, I thought this was a miniseries at first and was very dissapointed that it was over so soon. [[Special:Contributions/67.187.27.89|67.187.27.89]] 01:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

It's definately already in production. Normally when a series gets picked up production on the second season gets rolling ASAP. This became a pretty popular show, show I'm guessing AMC got the ball rolling right away when they realized they had demand for the show. Anyone here read the graphic novel series? I want to try and get into it but want to know if it's worth the time and money--[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 05:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

They really are worth it. I buy the trade paperbacks, they are like $12.00 a book. There are 13 of them up to now. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Personaaly i prefer the graphic novels. Dont get me wrong i love the series, but the comics are much more grim and dark, in the series everyone seems to be more willing to get along and its more zombie orientated, the comics are much more grim, its about the characters and in the comic no characters are safe, even mainstay ones. The tv series feels slightly more commercialised and main characters have outlived their comic book life already. I do love the tv version, and darly dixion is the best non comic character creation to be added to the series, I just hope Carl gets a gun next series, that said and cant belive i have to wait till october to see series 2.- Captain Snikt [[Special:Contributions/109.157.4.163|109.157.4.163]] 23:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Popular Cop Guns ==
An answer above said that the Glock was "a very common cop gun, in both hollywood, and real life." This is true, but I was wondering if their were any other cop guns in hollywood and in real life that are as popular as the Glock.--[[User:MarineCorps1|MarineCorps1]] 21:49, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The Beretta 92 is the only one that comes to mind for me. -SasquatchJim.

:There aren't too many police depts issuing the Beretta 92F anymore, even though Hollywood still shows them being carried by cops. Anyway, Glock holds just under 2/3rds of the U.S. law enforcement market, SIG-Sauer holds about 1/3rd, and a number of other makes (S&W, H&K, Beretta, etc.) are constantly fighting each other for what's left. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

SIG-Sauer P226, S&W M19/66, AR-15, and many more... --[[User:nkingman|nkingman]]

Ah, that's right.
Some older ones include the S&W Model 10, S&W Model 28, Colt Trooper, and a 12 gauge pump shotgun (namely a Remington 870.)
Another new one is the S&W M&P -SasquatchJim

There was once a time when the S&W Model 15/67, the S&W Model 13/65. Colt Official Police, Ruger Six Series revolvers, the S&W Model 19/66 and the Colt Lawman/Trooper Mk III were also very popular Cop revolvers.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:40, 28 March 2011 (CDT)

== Flash suppressor on M4A1 ==

Did anyone else notice the flash suppressor on the M4A1 held by the soldier that gets grabbed is different than normal?
:I thought it was a nongun.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.179.105|129.89.179.105]] 01:22, 19 December 2010 (UTC)(thePotShot)
::Just for reference,
::[[Image:M4A1nongun.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M4A1 Non Gun]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it's a Non Gun M4. Look at the range at which he's shooting at his comrades. Blanks are dangerous if an actor is shooting at other actors who are that close, so they probably had to use the Non Gun instead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:Actually, the Aimpoint M68 CCO (in this case I believe it is a Comp M2 or ML2) can be used with the foreward lens cover closed. Used in this method, it forms an occuladed eye-sight, which were one of the first types of weapons optics employed. Using an occuladed eye-sight is very similar in principle to the BAC method employed in some Trijicon ACOGs, both eyes are left open and due to the way the brain processes images from the eye, what the left (or right eye sees) downrange has the red dot from the other eye (which is looking down the sight) superimposed on it. This is useful as there are rumors that the red dot (particularly in the Aimpoint family) can in fact be detected from in front of the weapon due to the intensity of the light, espiecially in night battle conditions. So the sceintist might really know what he is doing, but it is just as likely it was a mistake by the prop department.[[User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 22:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== I liked Rick's reaction when he pulled the pin on the grenade in the last episode ==

He was thinkin "ohshitohshitohshitohshit" and then hauled ass outta there haha. I liked that little detail, along with him getting knocked off his feet as he tried to get as far away from it as possible, instead of the clichè "walk slowly towards the camera as a bomb goes off behind you with a bad-ass grimace on your face". This show had a lot of nice little details like that. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 03:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I liked that too. i hate when like the everyday joe can slowly walk away from a huge explosion,[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]