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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Savages&amp;diff=629225</id>
		<title>Savages</title>
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		<updated>2012-11-06T21:07:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* SIG SG 556 DMR */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{NowShowing}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:savages-movie-poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Savages'' (2012)]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Savages''''' is a 2012 narco-thriller based on Don Winslow's novel of the same name and directed by [[Oliver Stone]]. The film follows two successful marijuana-dealing friends: Chon ([[Taylor Kitsch]]), a former Navy SEAL, and Ben ([[Aaron Johnson]]), a UC Berkley graduate who must fight back against the Baja Cartel, run by Elena La Reina ([[Salma Hayek]]) and her enforcer Lado ([[Benicio del Toro]]), who have kidnapped their girlfriend O ([[Blake Lively]]) in order to push them out of the business. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''The following weapons were used in the film ''[[Savages]]'':''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
Both Dennis ([[John Travolta]]) and Lado ([[Benicio del Toro]]) carry what appear to be [[Glock 22]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 22]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lado_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lado ([[Benicio del Toro]]) pulls his Glock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Dennis_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dennis ([[John Travolta]]) pulls his Glock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Chon ([[Taylor Kitsch]]) is seen spinning the cylinder of a [[Ruger LCR]].  The novel states that he pulls out a .38, when the Cartel asks him if he has a gun on hand. It is likely that this is the same gun, since the LCR comes in .357 and .38.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px| LCR in .38]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ruger_lcr.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chon with the LCR.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==M1911 Variant==&lt;br /&gt;
In a few shots, both from the trailer and in publicity stills, some of the characters are seen with what resembles variants of [[M1911|1911s]]. O is seen with one in the trailer and Chon in a publicity still.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:KimberCustomTLEII_Plain.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The pistol seen is most likely a Kimber, from the stills, one can make out an extended beavertail and a skeletonized hammer.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon_and_Ben.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Chon and Ben reveal themselves on the computer. In Chon's waist you can see the grip of the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon_and_Ben_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In a more clear publicity still you can see the 1911 in Chon's waist better, notice the beavertail, and the curved hammer.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:O_1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|O ([[Blake Lively]]) fires the 1911.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==SIG-Sauer P232==&lt;br /&gt;
Chon also is seen holding what appears to be a [[SIG-Sauer P232]]. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SIGP232.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG-Sauer P232]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon_ppk.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chon ([[Taylor Kitsch]]) with the SIG-Sauer P232.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C ==&lt;br /&gt;
Throughout the film Ben uses a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK45C.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The HK45C used by Ben (in the novel, Ben is described as using a .22).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of Ben brandishing his HK45C.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon_and_Ben_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|On the right in this publicity image, Ben's HK45C can be seen in his waistband.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Rilfes=&lt;br /&gt;
==M4 Variant==&lt;br /&gt;
During the money hijacking scene Chon and his team of ex-Navy SEALs use heavily modified [[M4]] rifles, complete with a scopes, rails, vertical foregrips, and lights.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mk18.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MK18 Modo Carbine. Resembles the one used by Chon, albiet without all the accessories.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M4_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chon and his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M4_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another still with the M4 from behind Chon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ChonM4_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Good side view of the M4. Note the Grippod vertical grip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M4_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|View of the business end of the M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Sniper Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Blaser R93 LRS2==&lt;br /&gt;
Ex-Navy SEALs Sam ([[Alexander Wraith]]), and Billy ([[Anthony Cutolo]]) both uses [[Blaser R93 LRS2]] sniper rifles throughout the course of the film providing sniper cover for Chon and Ben.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Superscript text&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;==SIG SG 556 DMR==&lt;br /&gt;
The cartel snipers use [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 556 DMR|SIG SG 556 DMR]]'s during the final shootout. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:556-DMR-Bi-Pod-Up.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG SG 556 DMR 5.56x45mm with Magpul PRS stock, Harris bipod, and polymer magazine]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cartel snipers take aim with SIG 556 DMR's.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Rocket Launchers=&lt;br /&gt;
==RPG-7==&lt;br /&gt;
During the money hijacking scene one of Chon's ex-Navy SEALs use a 40mm [[RPG-7]] to take out a cartel vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 in 40mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rpg.jpg|thumb|none|601px|An RPG-7 is seen being prepared to be fired.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Action Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Crime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Oliver Stone]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Savages&amp;diff=629224</id>
		<title>Savages</title>
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		<updated>2012-11-06T21:05:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Remington RSASS */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{NowShowing}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:savages-movie-poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Savages'' (2012)]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Savages''''' is a 2012 narco-thriller based on Don Winslow's novel of the same name and directed by [[Oliver Stone]]. The film follows two successful marijuana-dealing friends: Chon ([[Taylor Kitsch]]), a former Navy SEAL, and Ben ([[Aaron Johnson]]), a UC Berkley graduate who must fight back against the Baja Cartel, run by Elena La Reina ([[Salma Hayek]]) and her enforcer Lado ([[Benicio del Toro]]), who have kidnapped their girlfriend O ([[Blake Lively]]) in order to push them out of the business. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''The following weapons were used in the film ''[[Savages]]'':''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
Both Dennis ([[John Travolta]]) and Lado ([[Benicio del Toro]]) carry what appear to be [[Glock 22]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 22]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lado_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lado ([[Benicio del Toro]]) pulls his Glock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Dennis_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dennis ([[John Travolta]]) pulls his Glock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Chon ([[Taylor Kitsch]]) is seen spinning the cylinder of a [[Ruger LCR]].  The novel states that he pulls out a .38, when the Cartel asks him if he has a gun on hand. It is likely that this is the same gun, since the LCR comes in .357 and .38.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px| LCR in .38]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ruger_lcr.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chon with the LCR.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==M1911 Variant==&lt;br /&gt;
In a few shots, both from the trailer and in publicity stills, some of the characters are seen with what resembles variants of [[M1911|1911s]]. O is seen with one in the trailer and Chon in a publicity still.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:KimberCustomTLEII_Plain.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The pistol seen is most likely a Kimber, from the stills, one can make out an extended beavertail and a skeletonized hammer.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon_and_Ben.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Chon and Ben reveal themselves on the computer. In Chon's waist you can see the grip of the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon_and_Ben_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In a more clear publicity still you can see the 1911 in Chon's waist better, notice the beavertail, and the curved hammer.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:O_1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|O ([[Blake Lively]]) fires the 1911.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==SIG-Sauer P232==&lt;br /&gt;
Chon also is seen holding what appears to be a [[SIG-Sauer P232]]. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SIGP232.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG-Sauer P232]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon_ppk.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chon ([[Taylor Kitsch]]) with the SIG-Sauer P232.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C ==&lt;br /&gt;
Throughout the film Ben uses a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK45C.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The HK45C used by Ben (in the novel, Ben is described as using a .22).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of Ben brandishing his HK45C.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon_and_Ben_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|On the right in this publicity image, Ben's HK45C can be seen in his waistband.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Rilfes=&lt;br /&gt;
==M4 Variant==&lt;br /&gt;
During the money hijacking scene Chon and his team of ex-Navy SEALs use heavily modified [[M4]] rifles, complete with a scopes, rails, vertical foregrips, and lights.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mk18.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MK18 Modo Carbine. Resembles the one used by Chon, albiet without all the accessories.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M4_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chon and his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M4_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another still with the M4 from behind Chon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ChonM4_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Good side view of the M4. Note the Grippod vertical grip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M4_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|View of the business end of the M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Sniper Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Blaser R93 LRS2==&lt;br /&gt;
Ex-Navy SEALs Sam ([[Alexander Wraith]]), and Billy ([[Anthony Cutolo]]) both uses [[Blaser R93 LRS2]] sniper rifles throughout the course of the film providing sniper cover for Chon and Ben.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==SIG SG 556 DMR==&lt;br /&gt;
The cartel snipers use [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 556 DMR|SIG SG 556 DMR]]'s during the final shootout. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:556-DMR-Bi-Pod-Up.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG SG 556 DMR 5.56x45mm with Magpul PRS stock, Harris bipod, and polymer magazine]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cartel snipers take aim with SIG 556 DMR's.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Rocket Launchers=&lt;br /&gt;
==RPG-7==&lt;br /&gt;
During the money hijacking scene one of Chon's ex-Navy SEALs use a 40mm [[RPG-7]] to take out a cartel vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 in 40mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rpg.jpg|thumb|none|601px|An RPG-7 is seen being prepared to be fired.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Action Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Crime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Oliver Stone]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629212</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629212"/>
		<updated>2012-11-06T20:34:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* SIG 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==SIG 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are using SIG 556 DMR's, not the Remington RSASS.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Two cartel snipers taking aim with SIG 556 DMR's.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629211</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629211"/>
		<updated>2012-11-06T20:32:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==SIG 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are using SIG 556 DMR's, not the Remington RSASS.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sig 556 Designated Marksman rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629210</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629210"/>
		<updated>2012-11-06T20:32:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are using Sig 556 DMR's, not the Remington RSASS.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sig 556 Designated Marksman rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629209</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
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		<updated>2012-11-06T20:32:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are using Sig 556 DMR's.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sig 556 Designated Marksman rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629208</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
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		<updated>2012-11-06T20:28:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are said to use Remington RSASS rifles, but they are actually Sig 556 DMR's.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sig 556 Designated Marksman rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629207</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
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		<updated>2012-11-06T20:24:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are said to use Remington RSASS rifles, but they are actually Sig 556 DMR's.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Sig 556 Designated Marksman rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629206</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629206"/>
		<updated>2012-11-06T20:24:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are said to use Remington RSASS rifles, but they are actually Sig 556 DMR's.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|300px|Sig 556 Designated Marksman rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|300px|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629205</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629205"/>
		<updated>2012-11-06T20:23:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are said to use Remington RSASS rifles, but they are actually Sig 556 DMR's.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Sig 556 Designated Marksman rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629204</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
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		<updated>2012-11-06T20:22:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: /* Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are said to use Remington RSASS rifles, but they are actually Sig 556 DMR's.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Sig 556 Designated Marksman rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Better closeup of receiver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
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That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg&amp;diff=629203</id>
		<title>File:Savages-sig556dmr-2.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2012-11-06T20:17:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: &lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg&amp;diff=629202</id>
		<title>File:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Savages-sig556dmr-1.jpg&amp;diff=629202"/>
		<updated>2012-11-06T20:17:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: &lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Savages&amp;diff=629198</id>
		<title>Talk:Savages</title>
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		<updated>2012-11-06T20:08:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Elduderino: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Sig 556 Designated Marksman Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to make a correction to the main page, the Baja Cartel snipers are said to use Remington RSASS rifles, but they are actually Sig 556 DMR's.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
In some shots of the trailer some unidentifiable pistols are shown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a SIG SAUER than a USP Compact. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:05, 6 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unknown_1.jpg|thumb|none|701px|Chon being held up by a gangbanger. Possibly a HK USP Compact. Again excuse the YouTube bar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chon870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chon with his shotgun. The novel  describes this scene as &amp;quot;Chon leaves his &amp;quot;Pony&amp;quot; (the Ford Mustang behind him) with a &amp;quot;Remington Model 870 SPS Super Slug pump action, 12-gauge with a synthetic cantilevered slug and a rubberized pistol grip that 'advances deer-leveling technology to farther reaches and smaller group sizes than ever before'.&amp;quot;-Don Winslow's ''Savages'', chapter 31, page 46.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just because it is said to be a Remington 870 in the book does not mean it will be an 870 in the movie. Movies miss details from the books they are based off all the time. For example in ''No Country for Old Men,'' Llewelyn's rifle is described as a Mauser rifle, but in the movie adaptation Llewelyn uses a Remington 700. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:08, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just about to post the same thing. So it does not mean that the shotgun is actually a 870, we will see when the movie comes out. In the meantime should we just call it unknown shotgun? Also about the M1911, just because of the beavertail and hammer, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a Kimber either, it's not that hard to get a M1911 modified with those parts. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 12:47, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I agree they should be listed as unknown shotgun and unknown 1911 variant right now until we can get better shots of both guns. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:00, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Also, Ben's pistol looks like a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45C, so I'm going to list it as such. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 13:04, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::This was my first time creating a page. How did I do? --[[User:Plumtree23|Plumtree23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::The overall format was good, I had to make a few changes to the page, but nothing major, so not too bad for a first page, better than a lot of other first pages I have seen. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:53, 29 April 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Lado's M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
I distinctly remember the Lado character using an M1911A1 early on in the film, in the part where he killed Shea Whigham's character.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Vests ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey anyone recognize the vests they were wearing during the first convoy assault --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 1 November 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Elduderino</name></author>
	</entry>
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