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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Southland_-_Season_5&amp;diff=1103900</id>
		<title>Talk:Southland - Season 5</title>
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		<updated>2017-05-04T19:57:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;CosmoRenfro: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Unknown Firearm==&lt;br /&gt;
In the 5th episode, &amp;quot;Off-Duty&amp;quot;, a crazed gunman fires an unknown handgun at cars in the street before running out of ammunition. This is the screen-cap, if anyone can identify this (or raise the quality to help), it'd be greatly appreciated. It looks like some kind of S&amp;amp;W auto to me. Perhaps a 4506 or 5906? [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] ([[User talk:Glock172|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SouthlandS5E05(01).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A crazed gunman holds a hostage in the street before realizing he is out of ammunition.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:SouthlandS5E10(3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Detective Ruben Robinson ([[Dorian Missick]]) argues with an RHD detective about how to deal with a suspect in &amp;quot;Reckoning&amp;quot; (S5E10). His Glock 22 can be seen in his holster. This is one of the few good glimpses viewers can get of his weapon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Trigger Discipline==&lt;br /&gt;
Another user pointed out actor [[Shawn Hatosy]]'s lack of trigger-discipline in a screen-cap and how it is rare to see behaviors like that on the show. I understand IMFDB's policy on these types of edits, however, because it ''very likely was intentional'' to depict his character's lack of focus to his job in that particular episode, I left the edit on the page (as well as posting on another screen-cap when the character, Bryant, uses proper trigger discipline when he is more focused on the situation at hand). [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] ([[User talk:Glock172|talk]]) 23:28, 24 April 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Detective Adams rank==&lt;br /&gt;
It's just a detail, but the insigna on Lydia's uniform is the one of a detective II, not the one of a sergeant. [[User:CosmoRenfro|CosmoRenfro]] ([[User talk:CosmoRenfro|talk]]) 21:57, 4 may 2017 (UTC+2)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>CosmoRenfro</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Southland_-_Season_3&amp;diff=1045301</id>
		<title>Talk:Southland - Season 3</title>
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		<updated>2016-08-18T21:53:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;CosmoRenfro: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Lydia's sidearm continuity==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it possible that Lydia's use of the S&amp;amp;W 5906 on the range instead of her S&amp;amp;W 3913 is because the 5906 is live-fire? Due it being filmed on a firing range? The recoil when she fires seems realistically consistent with a live 9mm rather than a blank-firing gun that she mimics the recoil on in other scenes, and all of the shots were filmed from behind, so it seems possible. This show is known to be as real as possible in terms of actor training.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Despite the filming at a live range, it is very unlikely that the production would risk any type of injury from a live-fire situation.  There are more than a few angles (especially ones seen on the page) that show the barrel of the firearm and it is very unlikely that a camera operator would want to be in front of a gun that is firing live rounds.   The only time live-fire would be likely tolerated is in reality series where the majority of the camera shots are from static positions.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:15, 22 August 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Then they certainly trained [[Regina King]] well at looking professional, because it looks a lot like she's firing a real weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Kimber 1911 for LAPD officer==&lt;br /&gt;
I am surprised to see a LAPD officer carrying a Kimber 1911, I thought that only SWAT and SIS detectives are allowed to carry 1911 pistols. Have the rules changed ?  --[[User:CosmoRenfro|CosmoRenfro]] 23:53, 18 August 2016 (UTC+2)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>CosmoRenfro</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Shadow_of_the_Wolf&amp;diff=842291</id>
		<title>Talk:Shadow of the Wolf</title>
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		<updated>2014-08-13T18:45:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;CosmoRenfro: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Unidentified Rifles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure about the first one, but the second looks like some kind of pump action .22 rifle. From the shape of the grip I would guess it is the [[FN Trombone]], but is hard to tell from this distance.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:49, 6 June 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Webley MK IV ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The revolver isn't a Webley MK VI but a Webley MK IV, because we can see the logo &amp;quot;Webley&amp;quot; on the top of the grips.  --[[User:CosmoRenfro/CosmoRenfro]] 20:46, 13 August 2014 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>CosmoRenfro</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Open_Range&amp;diff=690675</id>
		<title>Talk:Open Range</title>
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		<updated>2013-05-06T17:40:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;CosmoRenfro: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Rafa, I'm sorry I replaced your pictures but I need them all to match and yours were all full screen sized, mine were edited widescreen. I hope you didn't mind. -GM45&lt;br /&gt;
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== 1873 Winchester vs. 1876 Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Doesn't Waite's ([[Kevin Costner]]) rifle look more like a Winchester 1876?  I just watched this movie, and when I saw the gun the first I thought was that it was a 1876--[[User: Colt Revolver Fan]].&lt;br /&gt;
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No there is a difference. Compare the two photos of the 1873 and the 1876 then look at the rifle Costner is using. It's an 1873. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:33, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''First the Winchester 1873. Note the back of the reciever where it meets the rifle stock.'''''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Winchester1873short.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The 1873 &amp;quot;Short Rifle&amp;quot; model with octagon barrel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''Now look at the Winchester 1876 and it's reciever.'''''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:New_centennial.jpg|none|500px|thumb| Winchester Model 1876 &amp;quot;sporting&amp;quot; configuration in 45-60 WCF with 26 inch barrel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''Now look at the Winchester that Costner is using. It's an 1873.''''' &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:OpenRangeWinchester73-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Waite racks the lever on his '73 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Winchester 1876 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm agree with Colt Revolver Fan, I also think that the rifle is a Winchester 1876. The visible part of the barrel is more longer than the wooden part, and look the pronounced curvature of the butt. --[[User:CosmoRenfro|CosmoRenfro]] 14:48, 6 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sawed Peacemaker ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The barrel of Charley's Single Action Army cavalry seems to have been sawed, because we don't see the front sight. I think that Kevin Costner wanted a barrel with a length which was adapted to him. -CosmoRenfro- 15/07/12&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>CosmoRenfro</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Open_Range&amp;diff=690529</id>
		<title>Talk:Open Range</title>
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		<updated>2013-05-06T12:48:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;CosmoRenfro: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Rafa, I'm sorry I replaced your pictures but I need them all to match and yours were all full screen sized, mine were edited widescreen. I hope you didn't mind. -GM45&lt;br /&gt;
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== 1873 Winchester vs. 1876 Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Doesn't Waite's ([[Kevin Costner]]) rifle look more like a Winchester 1876?  I just watched this movie, and when I saw the gun the first I thought was that it was a 1876--[[User: Colt Revolver Fan]].&lt;br /&gt;
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No there is a difference. Compare the two photos of the 1873 and the 1876 then look at the rifle Costner is using. It's an 1873. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:33, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''First the Winchester 1873. Note the back of the reciever where it meets the rifle stock.'''''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Winchester1873short.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The 1873 &amp;quot;Short Rifle&amp;quot; model with octagon barrel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''Now look at the Winchester 1876 and it's reciever.'''''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:New_centennial.jpg|none|500px|thumb| Winchester Model 1876 &amp;quot;sporting&amp;quot; configuration in 45-60 WCF with 26 inch barrel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''Now look at the Winchester that Costner is using. It's an 1873.''''' &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:OpenRangeWinchester73-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Waite racks the lever on his '73 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm agree with Revolver Fan, I also think that the rifle is a Winchester 1876. The visible part of the barrel is more longer the wooden part, and look the pronounced curvature of the butt. --[[User:CosmoRenfro|CosmoRenfro]] 14:48, 6 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sawed Peacemaker ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The barrel of Charley's Single Action Army cavalry seems to have been sawed, because we don't see the front sight. I think that Kevin Costner wanted a barrel with a length which was adapted to him. -CosmoRenfro- 15/07/12&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>CosmoRenfro</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Detroit_1-8-7&amp;diff=627242</id>
		<title>Talk:Detroit 1-8-7</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-31T20:55:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;CosmoRenfro: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Working on this, from scratch. Give me time to get this going. If anyone can correct which Glock the Dets. Carry, let me know. I think its the 23.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Help Id'ing a 3rd gen S&amp;amp;W Pistol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Haven't gotten a screenshot yet, but there is a 3rd Generation S&amp;amp;W pistol in a couple of episodes- Could be any number of stainless pistols- 5906, 4006etc. Will post here so we can figure this out.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here you go. Anyone recognize the pistol? it looks like a 5906 to me.&lt;br /&gt;
:Which episode is that from? I'll try to get a better shot? And why are these two shots in different aspect ratios? &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:52, 30 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Its just how I cropped 'em. its from Stone Cold, Episode 16. During a meet between a deep cover DEA Agent, Det. Stone and a drug dealer.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unk S&amp;amp;W 3rd gen from behind.jpg|thumb|none|500px|unknown S&amp;amp;W 3rd gen.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unk S&amp;amp;W 3rd gen from side.jpg|thumb|none|500px|unknown S&amp;amp;W 3rd gen. side view]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Long slide, adjustable sights, single stack frame, I'm going for a late model [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506]]: [[File:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:04, 30 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Homicide: Season 8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I caught the pilot on Netflix, and I can't help but notice the similarities to ''[[Homicide: Life on the Street]]''. Depressing urban setting? Check. Rookie homicide detective paired up with prickly yet effective partner? Check. Dry-erase board with closed cases in black and open cases in red? Check. Documentary-style? Check. Heck, they even have a black dude who's fluent in Italian like in ''Homicide''. There are only 18 episodes, so I can pitch in if you need help. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 01:43, 26 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. I'm going to need some help on what appears to be an M-4 of some sort in a few episodes- Sometimes in the hands of an FBI SWAT team the other time in the DPD SRT.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Screenshots ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Got 'em coming. so far OK. Any comments or ideas?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need help ID'ing this gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Its a Beretta 92 or 96 Series of some sort. But Which is it? &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UNK Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|350px|unknown Beretta]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Glocks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sanchez looks like she has a Glock 19, everyone else looks like a Glock 17. I'm only two eps in, only she, Fitch and Stone have drawn their weapons so far. Unless we have definitive proof otherwise, we should assume they're all chambered in 9mm. &lt;br /&gt;
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OK I'll edit it to reflect that. Glocks all look the same to me. Just a piece of tupperware.(LOL)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 03:19, 31 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:D187_G17_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Fitch with his Glock drawn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:D187_G17_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A look at Fitch's bore. I doubt you can see the 1.1mm difference between a 9mm and a .40 in this shot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:D187_G17_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stone with his Glock drawn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:D187_G19_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A nice convenient shot of Sanchez and Stone side by side with their weapons drawn. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Glock 26 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the image Sanchez seems to brandish a Glock 26 instead of a Glock 19, the barrel is too short for a Glock 19. --[[User:CosmoRenfro|CosmoRenfro]] ([[User talk:CosmoRenfro|talk]]) 21:55, 31 October 2012 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Chicago_Code&amp;diff=600424</id>
		<title>Talk:The Chicago Code</title>
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		<updated>2012-08-12T10:33:04Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;== Unknown gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While I am rewatching the first 2 episodes, can someone ID this gun for me. It appeared in the opening chase scene in the first episode&lt;br /&gt;
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I may be wrong, but that looks like a [[Vektor CP1]] to me.  The shape looks right, I can't think of any other pistol with a partly red trigger, and I think I can just about make out the Vektor logo on the grip.  [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 12:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Jimmoy, definetley a CP1 --SmithandWesson36 20:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deleted my images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I want to know why was 2 images of the SIG I capped were deleted and I had to repost them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:27, 19 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Accidentally deleted those while trying to add another pic. My bad. -Peejn8r&lt;br /&gt;
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== Carry guns ==&lt;br /&gt;
So if the posted trivia about the Chicago Police department is correct... The 226 Caleb Evers carries would not be allowed because it is a DA/SA, as evidenced by the hammer spur on his 226, instead of the DAK pattern that would be required? - Peejn8r&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the 226 can also be in DAO [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the 226 had either the DA/SA standard or DAK (Double Action Kellerman,evidenced by the shorter hammer/no spur), setups only. I could be mistaken. - Peejn8r&lt;br /&gt;
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I love my Sig but honestly limiting a DA/SA gun to DAO seems dumb to me because its not designed for it.  Case in point Beretta 96D.  Basically a Double Action Only M9 in .40, has a heavy trigger and also massively long pull.  Especially when Glock and the alike, XD M&amp;amp;P p99, have a similar feeling setup with way better trigger pulls. - Peejn8r&lt;br /&gt;
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:Could someone please enlighten me as to why Police Departments are switching over to DAO? I dont see what is wrong with DA/SA, and I personally cant stand DAO, with the longer trigger pull each time. Sorry if I come off as ignorant, as there is probably a good reason.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 04:28, 23 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't speak for Chicago but my PD went to DAO or striker fired only to keep the manual of arms the same. That way if another person had to use another persons firearm for some reason it is a consistant trigger pull. I personally prefer DA/SA for my firearms but having a consistant trigger pull has its merits. --[[User:Ram229|Ram229]] 01:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats pretty much it... The idea behind DAO is not so much if another officer gets the weapon but for the training.  With the DAO pattern the trigger pull is identical everytime.  The problem with a DAO system is the massive long trigger pull making it hard to double tap accurately.  The advantage of a striker fired weapon is the identical trigger pull of a DAO system without the massively long pull.  I think with a DAO Beretta the pull is like 12 pounds everytime.  The pull on a Glock is supposed to be 5.5, Huge difference.  Personally I prefer the DA/SA setup, or even Cocked and Locked Single Action. - Peejn8r&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the responses. But I don't see why the trigger pull should be the same every time. It is after the first shot on DA/SA, and if the argument is to make sure the Police don't accidentally shoot someone then the trigger would still be the same as on the first shot on DA/SA. If they need to fire again (i.e. a shootout maybe?) then it would be better to have a responsive trigger, right? Again, I don't mean to come off as arrogant or anything and I apologize if I do.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 01:08, 27 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It has more to do with the training aspect. When a larger dept authorizes several different guns for carry instead of actually issuing a particular firearm training is the only thing the PD can control. Imagine being in charge of the PD fireamrs unit or armorer and having to train every officer on multiple different platforms. When my dept changed over to the M&amp;amp;P after having a DA/SA SW99 the cert officer kept forgetting and saying &amp;quot;decock and holster.&amp;quot; Now imagine if he forgot to say &amp;quot;decock and holster&amp;quot; and we were still carrying our DA/SA guns. After awhile officers might start carrying in SA mode only. If all the guns are DAO systems or striker fired like Glocks there is no worry about messing up and causing an unsafe practice from developing. Not to mention having to emply someone to keep track of all the different platforms would be just plain unreasonable. As far as a misfire or 2nd strike for DA/SA firearms, most depts that I have worked with and for train to clear misfires before pulling the trigger again. My dept actually induces them to help officers practice the &amp;quot;clear, move and then engage the threat&amp;quot; typ of scenario.--[[User:Ram229|Ram229]] 22:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not only that but the Striker-fired weapon is able to have the internal safeties to prevent the gun from &amp;quot;negligent&amp;quot;/accidental discharge with the advantage of a light trigger pull.  Because the first shot is often the most crucial shot, the shortened/lighter trigger pull allows for less chance of trigger yank under stress.-Peejn8r&lt;br /&gt;
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Striker-fired weapons, many of which are now using polymer frames, are also cheaper and lighter and arguably as durable.  Losing a few ounces is always nice on a gun belt full of heavy gear.  And Cost, a Sig Classic (220, 226, 229) will run around 700 dollars, whereas a glock will go for 400-500 (Police Department Prices). - [[User:Peejn8r|Peejn8r]]&lt;br /&gt;
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To answer the original question, the DAK versions lack the decocker lever and the hammer spur, yes, but there are standard DA/SA models that are converted to DAO, and they are usually, if not always, missing the decocker lever while retaining the hammer spur, so seeing spur hammers does not necessarily mean the guns are not DAO, but if you see a decocker on the gun, it's probably a standard DA/SA model. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 00:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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A former CPD officer I know told me that as of 2012, the SIG-Sauer is no longer approved for carry. I edited that on Wikipedia, and dispite not citing it, it is still there. Perhaps it was confirmed? Can anyone clarify this? [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] 12:55, 12 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Holdup gun==&lt;br /&gt;
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The gun used to hold up Alderman Gibbons in episode 4 looks like a small caliber Beretta like a Jetfire or Bobcat maybe a 1934- [[User:Peejn8r|Peejn8r]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going with Cheetah [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:21, 3 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== SIG P226R ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Sig p226R seems to be an airsoft replica, the markings are white and pronounced like airsoft guns marketed by KJWorks. --[[User:CosmoRenfro|CosmoRenfro]] 12:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>CosmoRenfro</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Open_Range&amp;diff=590412</id>
		<title>Talk:Open Range</title>
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		<updated>2012-07-15T10:10:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;CosmoRenfro: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Rafa, I'm sorry I replaced your pictures but I need them all to match and yours were all full screen sized, mine were edited widescreen. I hope you didn't mind. -GM45&lt;br /&gt;
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== 1873 Winchester vs. 1876 Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Doesn't Waite's ([[Kevin Costner]]) rifle look more like a Winchester 1876?  I just watched this movie, and when I saw the gun the first I thought was that it was a 1876--[[User: Colt Revolver Fan]].&lt;br /&gt;
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No there is a difference. Compare the two photos of the 1873 and the 1876 then look at the rifle Costner is using. It's an 1873. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:33, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''First the Winchester 1873. Note the back of the reciever where it meets the rifle stock.'''''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Winchester1873short.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The 1873 &amp;quot;Short Rifle&amp;quot; model with octagon barrel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''Now look at the Winchester 1876 and it's reciever.'''''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:New_centennial.jpg|none|500px|thumb| Winchester Model 1876 &amp;quot;sporting&amp;quot; configuration in 45-60 WCF with 26 inch barrel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''Now look at the Winchester that Costner is using. It's an 1873.''''' &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:OpenRangeWinchester73-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Waite racks the lever on his '73 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sawed Peacemaker ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The barrel of Charley's Single Action Army cavalry seems to have been sawed, because we don't see the front sight. I think that Kevin Costner wanted a barrel with a length which was adapted to him. -CosmoRenfro- 15/07/12&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>CosmoRenfro</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Burn_Notice_-_Season_3&amp;diff=590205</id>
		<title>Talk:Burn Notice - Season 3</title>
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		<updated>2012-07-14T17:09:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;CosmoRenfro: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Not a Mossberg ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The shotgun used by Sugar in S3E12 isn't a Mossberg 500, it can't be. Close inspection of the barrel above the retaining screw shows some sort of barrel clamp in place. The forend is also too close to the end of the barrel to be characteristic of a Mossberg 500 or 590.&lt;br /&gt;
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::In the future, please sign your posts by clicking the &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; button (second from the far right). --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:47, 31 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not a Glock 19 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first photography Natalie uses a Glock 26 instead of a Glock 19, it's necessary to look the rod under the barrel to notice it. -CosmoRenfro- 14/07/12&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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