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Talk:For All Mankind - Season 2

2023-06-20T22:13:09Z

Charon68: /* Some notes and a reference for the M16s */

== Some notes and a reference for the M16s ==
The buttstocks are not quite M4 stocks, but something weird. They have (very 21st century) sling sockets, but also long toes sticking down and curving back. Not visible easily but it's there.
Trigger guards are removed, which makes sense for gloved hand use.
They also are not painted white, but are either painted metallic, or plated. I'd assume they were supposed to be read as plated (NP3 was developed for the space program, for example) but are probably just painted for cost :)
Some is discussed in this thread: https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/m-16s-on-the-moon-help-id-this-for-all-mankind-weapon-pics.333339/ where someone involved in the production contributes some details.
[[User:Shoobe01|Shoobe01]] ([[User talk:Shoobe01|talk]]) 21:26, 15 November 2021 (EST)
:You know I've always thought they resembled the Canadian C7A2 variant of the M-16, minus the white furniture and Colt 4xs of course. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 22:12, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Apocalypse Now

2023-04-14T13:01:38Z

Charon68: /* Minigun mock-up? */

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=Apocalypse Now Trivia=
1. [[Harvey Keitel]] was originally cast by Francis Ford Coppola to portray Capt. Willard, but was replaced by [[Martin Sheen]].

2. In the opening scene where a drunken Willard smashes a mirror in his hotel room, Martin Sheen had improvised the smashing and severly split open his thumb due to the fact that the glass was real. Despite Coppola wanted to cut, Sheen told the director that he wanted to keep filming.

3. The water buffalo that was slaughtered in the film was authentic as it was part of a tribal ritual that was witnessed by Coppola prior to filming the sequence.

4. [[Sam Bottoms]] admitted in ''Hearts of Darkness'' that he was on several drugs while filming.

5. [[Martin Sheen]] suffered a heart attack during filming and was unable to film for several weeks. Martin's brother, Joe Estevez, was hired to film pickup shots as principal photography continued until Sheen could return.

6. The original budget for the film was $16 million, but the final cost turned out to be about $32 Million.

7. In the documentary ''Hearts of Darkness'', Francis Ford Coppola was heard on tape saying he was seriously thinking of shooting himself.

8. Francis Ford Coppola lost more than 100 pounds during filming.

9. Marlon Brando was paid $1 million in advance for his role in the film. Brando eventually turned up on set extremely late, severely overweight (+100kg), and apparently had not read the script or the book "Heart of Darkness". After days of arguments over single lines of dialogue, an ad-lib style script was agreed upon, and this was shot according to Brando's stipulations that he appears in shadows.

10. The original version of the film was to be directed by George Lucas and was actually considered being shot in Vietnam during the war.

=Discussion=
==bs==

I added the Ma Deuce as the Patrol boats carry two in the forward turret.
:Although I say this often, eventually I'll try to grab this cheap somewhere or rent it, I remember a lot of Vietnam era weaponry in heavy use. Good movie really, but a little more bizzare than your typical war flick. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:: Aw, i want to screen cap this.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Predator20 is taking up the task under my guidance. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I won't have to touch up this page, won't I?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::What is he doing? One gun at a time? -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
:I'm doing one set of guns at a time. It's my first page I'm putting up by myself. The M16 will probably go last, too many to choose from. GM45, I'll do the text once all the images are loaded. Or you can write them as I load them.[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
::Oh okay, I hadn't checked this yet. I'll wait until you're done. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:My uncle Robert, who was a SEAL in 'Nam, said that this movie is as close as it gets to the real deal-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
::I got my fair share of nitpicks when it comes to this movie. But the movie is great so I won't post it.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

The caption for Colby (Scott Glenn) should be changed. It mentions him twice as Lt. but he was a Captain, as demonstrated by the captain's bars on his beret, and the narrative of Williard on the boat when he gets mail at the bridge.
:If he's mentioned as a Captain by Williard it should be changed. I was going by IMDb which list him as Lt.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
== The AK's ==

Those shots are the best ones I have. Are any of them any good to make a positive identification? [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
:Done. You can tell by the front sights among other things that they are Norinco Type 56s. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:: How does the rest of the page look to you? - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
:::I'm happy with it, it looks professional and completed. After being bugged about it several times, I disciplined myself to limit 8 screencaps per gun, but the 10 you put in some sections doesn't really seem too cumbersome. Good work, your first page is complete! I'll make the Year of the Dragon page so you can get started on that. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::Thanks, I really happy with the way it turned out. Wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. I think since the scenery changes on the M16 pics it makes it not so cumbersome. The only thing that bugs me is the M16 list, there are too many of the same actor. I got some shots of Lance ([[Sam Bottoms]]) and Chief ([[Albert Hall]]) with M16's but the shots weren't good enough for the page. So I'm going to go back and see if I can get some better ones. I'll take a few of Willard's out. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]~
::You missed the Original M16s though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]], you're more than welcome to add any gun pics that need be to added or replace some of mine with better ones. Or you can tell me what scene has the original M16's and I'll see what I can do.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
::::The Hairy village scene. Kilgore mans a M16 in that one.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Oliveira, This is the only scene I got of Kilgore with an M16.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
[[Image:ApnowM16-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
::That's definately an M16 (SP1), you can see it doesn't have a forward assist ("slab-side"), so this would obviously go under a different category than the M16A1. BTW, I changed the M16 pics and added and removed one image, since the shot of Willard in the jungle wasn't as good as the shot of Willard giving up his M16A1. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::: I added two images. There is never any good shots of him with it though.- [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
::::I filled in the description and added an image to save you the trouble. The reason we call them M16 (SP1)'s is because they could either be military issue M16's fitted with A1 flashhiders or civilian issue AR-15 SP1's converted to full auto, depending on what the armorer had handy. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::::It looks like Kilgore's M16 has an SP1-style upper (no forward assist), but an A1 lower (there seems to be fencing around the magazine release). It's another Franken-gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::I missed that. I hate being sleep depraved. I'm just going to finish Se7en and get the hell to sleep. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::It's not necessarily a "Franken-gun." Late model M16s used by the USAF (and USN) did have A1-style full fence lowers. These are also known as "Colt 604s." - [[User:Rhurst1945|Rhurst1945]]

== MGC M16 ==
After watching the movie again, in the scene where the PBR gets attacked right after Lance pops out a purple haze, there is a close up of two MGC M16s.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
:I think I know the scene you're talking about, they get shot up. Which makes sense to use replicas. I don't have a snap of them. I'll take one. I also found a better shot of Willard with his M16A1 when he meets the colonist, in my Apocalypse Now folder. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:44, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Mock-up machine gun ==
The fake DShK or an M2 machine gun doesn't look like DShK, but some mutant bastard child of the Maxim and Browning M1917 machine guns, but I'm not 100% sure. It is most likely made to look like a "general" machine gun, instead of an actual machine gun. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 22:58, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

==M1 Garand==
I rewatched the ending of the Redux edition from when boat reaches Kurtz's compound, and I can't see an M1 Garand anywhere. I found three other unlisted guns, but no M1 Garand. Does anyone have any more detail? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 19:38, 25 July 2012 (CDT)

At one hour, forty-eight minutes, twenty-one seconds (1:48:21) into the film, look on the wall as Willard and the Photojournalist walk by, the shirtless man with the camo pants is holding an M1 garand. There is also a video on youtube. Type Apocalypse Now--Arrival, skip to 4:18.

:That it? I suppose... --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:14, 5 August 2012 (CDT)
[[Image:ApocalypseNow_M1G_01.jpg|thumb|none|601px|]]

Yes, that is it. If you back up the scene maybe one or two seconds you can see it better.
:If I back it up, it's barely in the frame. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:25, 5 August 2012 (CDT)
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1kqFwVuQ-Hg#t=261s], right here. Pause at 4:21.
:::Am I allowed to re add it to the page?
::::I suppose. And please sign your posts. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 12:46, 5 August 2012 (CDT)
:::::Sorry. I'm Trying to screencap a better view but for some reason my computer keeps acting up. Keeps pulling up things about copyright issues. No matter, if it's okay i'll just add this one until I can clear that up.--[[User:Gunner5|Gunner5]]

==Unknown rifle==
One of Kurtz's men is armed with an unknown bolt-action rifle.
[[Image:AN_rifle_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Revolver==
Chef has a revolver tucked into his pants when the boat reaches Kurtz's compound. Do you think it's the Chief's revolver? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 19:47, 25 July 2012 (CDT)
[[Image:AN_revolver_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Minigun mock-up? ==

Despite what is written in the description about how the M134s are from the Philippine Air Force, does anyone else think they look a hell of a lot like mock-ups? Firstly, the main "receiver" is too wide in relation to the barrels, and all the additional parts that attach like the delinker and motor are perfectly smooth cylinders, rather than the more irregular shapes covered in bolts, rivets and plates that they would be in real life. Secondly the barrel clamps are wrong, having that nut at the front, and the rear clamp being the same thickness as all the others rather than thicker. Thirdly the profiles of the barrels themselves is weird, with the back half being much thicker than the front abruptly changing at the rear of the barrel clamp. Lastly, the mount looks particularly cobbled together and appears that it wouldn't articulate enough to be of any use on a real weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:54, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

:Honest to jeebus I came here to say that. Watched it for the first time in a while and I couldn't help but think something looked off about the weapon.--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 13:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

== M1918 BAR? ==

In the Redux version, a possible BAR is present in the French plantation scene. Just before Hubert de Marais introduces himself, a soldier behind him slung a possible M1918 BAR(or its variant) on his shoulder. However, due to fog it is hard to determine which variant. If you have the film, check 1:48:40-1:49:00 for the soldier on the left side of the frame behind Hubert.

:Is it different from this one?--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 06:37, 10 November 2014 (EST)
[[Image:ApnowB.A.R.-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the "Redux" version, seen on the left is a French colonist with an M1918A2 BAR rested on his shoulders.]]
:: I think that image is exactly what he's talking about, and this gun is clearly identifiable as a M1918A2 version from the grip and bipod. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 12:52, 10 November 2014 (EST)

=Additional=
==Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse==
[[image:Hearts of Darkness, A Filmmaker's Apocalypse Poster.jpeg|300px|thumb|right|''Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse'' (1991)]]

''Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse'' is the 1991 documentary about the production of Apocalypse Now. Narrated by his wife Eleanor, the documentary follows the hardships of director [[Francis Ford Coppola]] and features tons of behind-the-scenes footage. The documentary shows the scope of how many guns were used.

'''NOTE: Only behind-the-scenes (BTC) footage, not shots from the movie that are featured in the documentary'''

 

===Smith & Wesson Model 10===
A poignant photo in the documentary shows director [[Francis Ford Coppola]] pointing a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] at his own head (possibly the one used by [[Albert Hall]] in the movie). This image perfectly sums up the director's attitude towards the movie's hellish production.
[[Image:SW103inch.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 with 3" barrel - .38 Special]]
[[Image:S&WM10 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Coppola points a S&W Model 10 to his head. On three separate occasions, the director seriously discussed killing himself to end the production.]]

===M1911A1===
During casting sessions in 1975, several actors are given prop guns to use while acting out scenes. Coppola is briefly seen handling an [[M1911A1]] during one of these sessions.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|WWII era Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:M1911A1 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Coppola dry-fires an M1911A1.]]

===M1928A1 Thompson===
One of the prop guns given to the actors during the casting sessions is an [[M1928A1 Thompson]] without a compensator. The gun was likely a non-functioning prop.
[[Image:Submachine gun M1928 Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and no compensator - .45ACP]]
[[Image:Thompson Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An actor who did not make the cast acts out a scene using a Thompson.]]
[[Image:Thompson Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another actor on the left holding the Thompson.]]

===Winchester Model 1892===
During interviews with screenwriter [[John Milius]] there is a [[Winchester Model 1892]] hanging on his wall.
[[Image:As069-model1892eldoradocarb-20-357-38sp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine with large lever loop - .32WCF/.38-40/.44-40/.25-20.]]
[[Image:Winchester1892 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1892 on John Milius's wall.]]

===M1 Carbine===
One of the extras at Kurtz's temple carries an [[M1 Carbine]], yet it is never seen in the actual movie.
[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M1 Carbine (Post-War) - .30 Carbine]]
[[Image:M1Carbine Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra with an M1 Carbine slung while shooting the slaughter scene.]]

===M1 Garand===
An extra at Kurtz's temple can be spotted with an [[M1 Garand]]. Additionally, Filipino Rebels shown in stock footage carry M1 Garands.
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]]
[[Image:M1Garand Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra with an M1 Garand slung over his shoulder while filming the slaughter scene.]]
[[Image:M1Garand Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stock footage of Filipino Rebels with American M1 Garands.]]

===M14===
Stock footage of US Marines in Vietnam shows them armed with [[M14]] rifles.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:M14 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stock footage of a Marine firing an M14 in Vietnam.]]
[[Image:M14 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two Marines with M14's.]]

===M16A1===
The documentary opens the scope of how man [[M16A1]] rifles were used for the film, mainly in the hands of extras playing Kurtz's army.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 30-round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|During one of the casting sessions, actors [[Albert Hall]] and [[Sam Bottoms]] use M16A1's for their scene, while Coppola watches.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sam Bottoms gets ready to do a scene with an M16A1 slung over his shoulder.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Actors in costume at the range during weapons training.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Frederic Forrest]] (Chef) fires a full-auto burst during weapons training.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Eleanor Coppola, the director's wife, decides to take some shots.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|While shooting a scene at the temple, several extras chant and hold up M16A1's, much to the distress of [[Dennis Hopper]].]]

===M16===
Some concept art of a cut sequence shows Willard firing an M16 with a (more appropriate) 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16 with 20-round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Concept art of Willard gunning down several NVC's for a sequence in an earlier draft of the script.]]

===Norinco Type 56===
The [[Norinco Type 56]] is briefly seen with extras.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with folding "Pig Sticker" bayonet - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Norinco56 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra, standing behind Coppola's two sons Gian-Carlo and Roman, holds a Norinco 56.]]

===M60===
The [[M60 machine gun]] is briefly seen in the documentary.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:M60 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stock footage of a Marine firing an M60 in Vietnam.]]
[[Image:M60 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Director Francis Ford Coppola fires an M60 during weapons training.]]

===Browning M2HB===
Naturally, the PBR's [[Browning M2HB]] machine guns are featured throughout the documentary.
[[Image:BrowningM2_plain.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB - .50 BMG]]
[[File:Twin M2 machine guns PBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Dual Browning M2HB in PBR - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:M2 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The PBR's twin M2 machine guns are seen here during the first day of shooting. [[Harvey Keitel]] is playing Willard in this shot, sitting in front of the dual machine guns. After reviewing this day's footage, Coppola decided Keitel was not right for the part and hired [[Martin Sheen]].]]
[[Image:M2 Hearts 3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Filming the trench scene with M2 circled in red.]]

===Fake DShK heavy machine gun (mock up)===
More fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s can be seen while shooting the massive helicopter attack scene.
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DShKM heavy machine gun - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:FakeDShK Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A shirtless extra fires the fake DShK at a passing helicopter.]]
[[Image:FakeDShK Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Coppola directing an extra with the fake DShK resting in the background.]]

===Ithaca 37===
Actor [[Scott Glenn]] (Colby) can be seen dancing with the [[Ithaca 37]] while shooting the slaughter scene.
[[Image:IthacaBayo.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37 Trench Gun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Ithaca37 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Scott Glenn (playing Colby) dances during the climactic slaughter scene.]]

===M79 grenade launcher===
The [[M79 Grenade Launcher]] is briefly shown.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm]]
[[Image:M79 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra hold an M79 while shooting the climactic slaughter scene.]]
[[Image:M79 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Herb Rice]] holding the M79 while shooting the trench scene.]]

===Smith & Wesson 276 Gas Gun===
While filming the Do Lung bridge scene, a pyrotechnic effects technician uses a [[Smith & Wesson 276 Gas Gun]] to fire "star shells" into the sky.
[[File:S&W37mmGasGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 276 Gas Gun - 37mm]]
[[Image:S&W276 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An effects guy fires a "star shell" into the sky.]]

===M26 hand grenade===
A couple extras are seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their equipment (although I don't recall seeing them in the movie).
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:M26 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra in between Francis and Eleanor Coppola wears M26 grenades on his webbing.]]
[[Image:M26 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra playing one of Kurtz's militants wears an M26 grenade on his webbing.]]

Talk:Apocalypse Now

2023-04-14T13:01:15Z

Charon68: /* Minigun mock-up? */

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=Apocalypse Now Trivia=
1. [[Harvey Keitel]] was originally cast by Francis Ford Coppola to portray Capt. Willard, but was replaced by [[Martin Sheen]].

2. In the opening scene where a drunken Willard smashes a mirror in his hotel room, Martin Sheen had improvised the smashing and severly split open his thumb due to the fact that the glass was real. Despite Coppola wanted to cut, Sheen told the director that he wanted to keep filming.

3. The water buffalo that was slaughtered in the film was authentic as it was part of a tribal ritual that was witnessed by Coppola prior to filming the sequence.

4. [[Sam Bottoms]] admitted in ''Hearts of Darkness'' that he was on several drugs while filming.

5. [[Martin Sheen]] suffered a heart attack during filming and was unable to film for several weeks. Martin's brother, Joe Estevez, was hired to film pickup shots as principal photography continued until Sheen could return.

6. The original budget for the film was $16 million, but the final cost turned out to be about $32 Million.

7. In the documentary ''Hearts of Darkness'', Francis Ford Coppola was heard on tape saying he was seriously thinking of shooting himself.

8. Francis Ford Coppola lost more than 100 pounds during filming.

9. Marlon Brando was paid $1 million in advance for his role in the film. Brando eventually turned up on set extremely late, severely overweight (+100kg), and apparently had not read the script or the book "Heart of Darkness". After days of arguments over single lines of dialogue, an ad-lib style script was agreed upon, and this was shot according to Brando's stipulations that he appears in shadows.

10. The original version of the film was to be directed by George Lucas and was actually considered being shot in Vietnam during the war.

=Discussion=
==bs==

I added the Ma Deuce as the Patrol boats carry two in the forward turret.
:Although I say this often, eventually I'll try to grab this cheap somewhere or rent it, I remember a lot of Vietnam era weaponry in heavy use. Good movie really, but a little more bizzare than your typical war flick. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:: Aw, i want to screen cap this.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Predator20 is taking up the task under my guidance. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I won't have to touch up this page, won't I?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::What is he doing? One gun at a time? -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
:I'm doing one set of guns at a time. It's my first page I'm putting up by myself. The M16 will probably go last, too many to choose from. GM45, I'll do the text once all the images are loaded. Or you can write them as I load them.[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
::Oh okay, I hadn't checked this yet. I'll wait until you're done. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:My uncle Robert, who was a SEAL in 'Nam, said that this movie is as close as it gets to the real deal-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
::I got my fair share of nitpicks when it comes to this movie. But the movie is great so I won't post it.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

The caption for Colby (Scott Glenn) should be changed. It mentions him twice as Lt. but he was a Captain, as demonstrated by the captain's bars on his beret, and the narrative of Williard on the boat when he gets mail at the bridge.
:If he's mentioned as a Captain by Williard it should be changed. I was going by IMDb which list him as Lt.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
== The AK's ==

Those shots are the best ones I have. Are any of them any good to make a positive identification? [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
:Done. You can tell by the front sights among other things that they are Norinco Type 56s. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:: How does the rest of the page look to you? - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
:::I'm happy with it, it looks professional and completed. After being bugged about it several times, I disciplined myself to limit 8 screencaps per gun, but the 10 you put in some sections doesn't really seem too cumbersome. Good work, your first page is complete! I'll make the Year of the Dragon page so you can get started on that. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::Thanks, I really happy with the way it turned out. Wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. I think since the scenery changes on the M16 pics it makes it not so cumbersome. The only thing that bugs me is the M16 list, there are too many of the same actor. I got some shots of Lance ([[Sam Bottoms]]) and Chief ([[Albert Hall]]) with M16's but the shots weren't good enough for the page. So I'm going to go back and see if I can get some better ones. I'll take a few of Willard's out. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]~
::You missed the Original M16s though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]], you're more than welcome to add any gun pics that need be to added or replace some of mine with better ones. Or you can tell me what scene has the original M16's and I'll see what I can do.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
::::The Hairy village scene. Kilgore mans a M16 in that one.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Oliveira, This is the only scene I got of Kilgore with an M16.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
[[Image:ApnowM16-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
::That's definately an M16 (SP1), you can see it doesn't have a forward assist ("slab-side"), so this would obviously go under a different category than the M16A1. BTW, I changed the M16 pics and added and removed one image, since the shot of Willard in the jungle wasn't as good as the shot of Willard giving up his M16A1. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::: I added two images. There is never any good shots of him with it though.- [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
::::I filled in the description and added an image to save you the trouble. The reason we call them M16 (SP1)'s is because they could either be military issue M16's fitted with A1 flashhiders or civilian issue AR-15 SP1's converted to full auto, depending on what the armorer had handy. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::::It looks like Kilgore's M16 has an SP1-style upper (no forward assist), but an A1 lower (there seems to be fencing around the magazine release). It's another Franken-gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::I missed that. I hate being sleep depraved. I'm just going to finish Se7en and get the hell to sleep. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::It's not necessarily a "Franken-gun." Late model M16s used by the USAF (and USN) did have A1-style full fence lowers. These are also known as "Colt 604s." - [[User:Rhurst1945|Rhurst1945]]

== MGC M16 ==
After watching the movie again, in the scene where the PBR gets attacked right after Lance pops out a purple haze, there is a close up of two MGC M16s.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
:I think I know the scene you're talking about, they get shot up. Which makes sense to use replicas. I don't have a snap of them. I'll take one. I also found a better shot of Willard with his M16A1 when he meets the colonist, in my Apocalypse Now folder. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:44, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Mock-up machine gun ==
The fake DShK or an M2 machine gun doesn't look like DShK, but some mutant bastard child of the Maxim and Browning M1917 machine guns, but I'm not 100% sure. It is most likely made to look like a "general" machine gun, instead of an actual machine gun. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 22:58, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

==M1 Garand==
I rewatched the ending of the Redux edition from when boat reaches Kurtz's compound, and I can't see an M1 Garand anywhere. I found three other unlisted guns, but no M1 Garand. Does anyone have any more detail? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 19:38, 25 July 2012 (CDT)

At one hour, forty-eight minutes, twenty-one seconds (1:48:21) into the film, look on the wall as Willard and the Photojournalist walk by, the shirtless man with the camo pants is holding an M1 garand. There is also a video on youtube. Type Apocalypse Now--Arrival, skip to 4:18.

:That it? I suppose... --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:14, 5 August 2012 (CDT)
[[Image:ApocalypseNow_M1G_01.jpg|thumb|none|601px|]]

Yes, that is it. If you back up the scene maybe one or two seconds you can see it better.
:If I back it up, it's barely in the frame. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:25, 5 August 2012 (CDT)
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1kqFwVuQ-Hg#t=261s], right here. Pause at 4:21.
:::Am I allowed to re add it to the page?
::::I suppose. And please sign your posts. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 12:46, 5 August 2012 (CDT)
:::::Sorry. I'm Trying to screencap a better view but for some reason my computer keeps acting up. Keeps pulling up things about copyright issues. No matter, if it's okay i'll just add this one until I can clear that up.--[[User:Gunner5|Gunner5]]

==Unknown rifle==
One of Kurtz's men is armed with an unknown bolt-action rifle.
[[Image:AN_rifle_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Revolver==
Chef has a revolver tucked into his pants when the boat reaches Kurtz's compound. Do you think it's the Chief's revolver? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 19:47, 25 July 2012 (CDT)
[[Image:AN_revolver_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Minigun mock-up? ==

Despite what is written in the description about how the M134s are from the Philippine Air Force, does anyone else think they look a hell of a lot like mock-ups? Firstly, the main "receiver" is too wide in relation to the barrels, and all the additional parts that attach like the delinker and motor are perfectly smooth cylinders, rather than the more irregular shapes covered in bolts, rivets and plates that they would be in real life. Secondly the barrel clamps are wrong, having that nut at the front, and the rear clamp being the same thickness as all the others rather than thicker. Thirdly the profiles of the barrels themselves is weird, with the back half being much thicker than the front abruptly changing at the rear of the barrel clamp. Lastly, the mount looks particularly cobbled together and appears that it wouldn't articulate enough to be of any use on a real weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:54, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Honest to jeebus I came here to say that. Watched it for the first time in a while and I couldn't help but think something looked off about the weapon.--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 13:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

== M1918 BAR? ==

In the Redux version, a possible BAR is present in the French plantation scene. Just before Hubert de Marais introduces himself, a soldier behind him slung a possible M1918 BAR(or its variant) on his shoulder. However, due to fog it is hard to determine which variant. If you have the film, check 1:48:40-1:49:00 for the soldier on the left side of the frame behind Hubert.

:Is it different from this one?--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 06:37, 10 November 2014 (EST)
[[Image:ApnowB.A.R.-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the "Redux" version, seen on the left is a French colonist with an M1918A2 BAR rested on his shoulders.]]
:: I think that image is exactly what he's talking about, and this gun is clearly identifiable as a M1918A2 version from the grip and bipod. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 12:52, 10 November 2014 (EST)

=Additional=
==Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse==
[[image:Hearts of Darkness, A Filmmaker's Apocalypse Poster.jpeg|300px|thumb|right|''Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse'' (1991)]]

''Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse'' is the 1991 documentary about the production of Apocalypse Now. Narrated by his wife Eleanor, the documentary follows the hardships of director [[Francis Ford Coppola]] and features tons of behind-the-scenes footage. The documentary shows the scope of how many guns were used.

'''NOTE: Only behind-the-scenes (BTC) footage, not shots from the movie that are featured in the documentary'''

 

===Smith & Wesson Model 10===
A poignant photo in the documentary shows director [[Francis Ford Coppola]] pointing a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] at his own head (possibly the one used by [[Albert Hall]] in the movie). This image perfectly sums up the director's attitude towards the movie's hellish production.
[[Image:SW103inch.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 with 3" barrel - .38 Special]]
[[Image:S&WM10 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Coppola points a S&W Model 10 to his head. On three separate occasions, the director seriously discussed killing himself to end the production.]]

===M1911A1===
During casting sessions in 1975, several actors are given prop guns to use while acting out scenes. Coppola is briefly seen handling an [[M1911A1]] during one of these sessions.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|WWII era Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:M1911A1 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Coppola dry-fires an M1911A1.]]

===M1928A1 Thompson===
One of the prop guns given to the actors during the casting sessions is an [[M1928A1 Thompson]] without a compensator. The gun was likely a non-functioning prop.
[[Image:Submachine gun M1928 Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and no compensator - .45ACP]]
[[Image:Thompson Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An actor who did not make the cast acts out a scene using a Thompson.]]
[[Image:Thompson Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another actor on the left holding the Thompson.]]

===Winchester Model 1892===
During interviews with screenwriter [[John Milius]] there is a [[Winchester Model 1892]] hanging on his wall.
[[Image:As069-model1892eldoradocarb-20-357-38sp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine with large lever loop - .32WCF/.38-40/.44-40/.25-20.]]
[[Image:Winchester1892 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1892 on John Milius's wall.]]

===M1 Carbine===
One of the extras at Kurtz's temple carries an [[M1 Carbine]], yet it is never seen in the actual movie.
[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M1 Carbine (Post-War) - .30 Carbine]]
[[Image:M1Carbine Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra with an M1 Carbine slung while shooting the slaughter scene.]]

===M1 Garand===
An extra at Kurtz's temple can be spotted with an [[M1 Garand]]. Additionally, Filipino Rebels shown in stock footage carry M1 Garands.
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]]
[[Image:M1Garand Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra with an M1 Garand slung over his shoulder while filming the slaughter scene.]]
[[Image:M1Garand Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stock footage of Filipino Rebels with American M1 Garands.]]

===M14===
Stock footage of US Marines in Vietnam shows them armed with [[M14]] rifles.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:M14 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stock footage of a Marine firing an M14 in Vietnam.]]
[[Image:M14 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two Marines with M14's.]]

===M16A1===
The documentary opens the scope of how man [[M16A1]] rifles were used for the film, mainly in the hands of extras playing Kurtz's army.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 30-round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|During one of the casting sessions, actors [[Albert Hall]] and [[Sam Bottoms]] use M16A1's for their scene, while Coppola watches.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sam Bottoms gets ready to do a scene with an M16A1 slung over his shoulder.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Actors in costume at the range during weapons training.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Frederic Forrest]] (Chef) fires a full-auto burst during weapons training.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Eleanor Coppola, the director's wife, decides to take some shots.]]
[[Image:M16A1 Hearts 6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|While shooting a scene at the temple, several extras chant and hold up M16A1's, much to the distress of [[Dennis Hopper]].]]

===M16===
Some concept art of a cut sequence shows Willard firing an M16 with a (more appropriate) 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16 with 20-round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Concept art of Willard gunning down several NVC's for a sequence in an earlier draft of the script.]]

===Norinco Type 56===
The [[Norinco Type 56]] is briefly seen with extras.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with folding "Pig Sticker" bayonet - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Norinco56 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra, standing behind Coppola's two sons Gian-Carlo and Roman, holds a Norinco 56.]]

===M60===
The [[M60 machine gun]] is briefly seen in the documentary.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:M60 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stock footage of a Marine firing an M60 in Vietnam.]]
[[Image:M60 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Director Francis Ford Coppola fires an M60 during weapons training.]]

===Browning M2HB===
Naturally, the PBR's [[Browning M2HB]] machine guns are featured throughout the documentary.
[[Image:BrowningM2_plain.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB - .50 BMG]]
[[File:Twin M2 machine guns PBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Dual Browning M2HB in PBR - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:M2 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The PBR's twin M2 machine guns are seen here during the first day of shooting. [[Harvey Keitel]] is playing Willard in this shot, sitting in front of the dual machine guns. After reviewing this day's footage, Coppola decided Keitel was not right for the part and hired [[Martin Sheen]].]]
[[Image:M2 Hearts 3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Filming the trench scene with M2 circled in red.]]

===Fake DShK heavy machine gun (mock up)===
More fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s can be seen while shooting the massive helicopter attack scene.
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DShKM heavy machine gun - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:FakeDShK Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A shirtless extra fires the fake DShK at a passing helicopter.]]
[[Image:FakeDShK Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Coppola directing an extra with the fake DShK resting in the background.]]

===Ithaca 37===
Actor [[Scott Glenn]] (Colby) can be seen dancing with the [[Ithaca 37]] while shooting the slaughter scene.
[[Image:IthacaBayo.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37 Trench Gun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Ithaca37 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Scott Glenn (playing Colby) dances during the climactic slaughter scene.]]

===M79 grenade launcher===
The [[M79 Grenade Launcher]] is briefly shown.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm]]
[[Image:M79 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra hold an M79 while shooting the climactic slaughter scene.]]
[[Image:M79 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Herb Rice]] holding the M79 while shooting the trench scene.]]

===Smith & Wesson 276 Gas Gun===
While filming the Do Lung bridge scene, a pyrotechnic effects technician uses a [[Smith & Wesson 276 Gas Gun]] to fire "star shells" into the sky.
[[File:S&W37mmGasGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 276 Gas Gun - 37mm]]
[[Image:S&W276 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An effects guy fires a "star shell" into the sky.]]

===M26 hand grenade===
A couple extras are seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their equipment (although I don't recall seeing them in the movie).
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:M26 Hearts 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra in between Francis and Eleanor Coppola wears M26 grenades on his webbing.]]
[[Image:M26 Hearts 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An extra playing one of Kurtz's militants wears an M26 grenade on his webbing.]]

Talk:Without Remorse

2021-05-01T01:56:01Z

Charon68: Created page with "Remington R2Mi Pretty sure it's the rifle used when the team is in Murmansk. --~~~~"

[[Remington R2Mi]]
Pretty sure it's the rifle used when the team is in Murmansk. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:56, 30 April 2021 (EDT)

Talk:Moonraker

2021-04-13T03:55:21Z

Charon68: /* Funny Story */ new section

[[Image:51C7QTQJ6YL SS500 .jpg|thumb|none|300px|DVD cover for ''Moonraker'' (1979)]]
That bolt action rifle kinda looks like a Parker-Hale M82, can anyone confirm that? -
[[User:Deafmatch|Deafmatch]] 14:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

The bolt handle looks a bit too far forward for that. Possibly a Mannlicher-Schonauer sporter? IKD

Yeah, you're absolutely correct, that has to be it, I'm fixing it -
[[User:Deafmatch|Deafmatch]] 16:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Useless bit of trivia, but Drax's laser pistols were made from auto timing lights. David.

The 'rubber batons' are actually meant to be electroshock 'stun' batons - watch how they are used (& listen to the accompanying sound effect). Page altered appropriately. AnthonyB 24/03/12

== moved from page ==

You don't actually see any guns here, just holsters. They could be empty for all we know. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:14, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

== Unidentified Pistol ==
Venetian police officers are armed with these smaller pistols, most probably some [[Beretta]] models.
[[File:Moonrakerpolice1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Unidentified Revolver ==
Airport security officers at Heathrow (the only airport which has ''British Airways'' flights to Rio de Janeiro), (including [[Carlos Kurt]]) carry these revolvers in their holsters, when Jaws boards flight BA 128 to Rio de Janeiro.
[[File:Moonrakerlax1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:Moonrakerlax2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Unidentified semi-automatic pistol ==

It is either a M1911 or a Star Model B. I cannot imagine any third alternative. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 10:28, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
[[File:Mr mac2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|]]

: I'd lean to a 1911A1 there. The Un-ID'd revolver on the page looks like a Smith & Wesson Model 19. I believe the MAC-11s are actually also MAC-10s given their size. Can't make out anything on the other ones here on the talk page. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 01:50, 4 June 2016 (EDT)

== Sterling SMG ==
Is the gun in this image really a Sterling, as the page claims?
[[File:Mr sterling1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard in the Mini Moke wields a Sterling.]]
Granted the image is blurry as hell, but that looks an awful lot like an M16 to me, with the wide handguard. The metal object projecting from the side that I'm assuming has been mistaken for a magazine actually looks to be the Mini Moke's mirror.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] ([[User talk:Leigh Burne|talk]]) 10:30, 10 July 2018 (EDT)

== Funny Story ==

I was looking through a Hollywood memorabilia auction catalog which, among other things, included what was supposed to be a replica M-16 from this movie. I immediately recognized it as a rubber M-16A2 rubber prop which, clearly, was not in the movie. I contacted to auction company to inform them of the error and was shortly thereafter replied to by one of the site managers. Apparently he had to check on it and the story was the site's photographer took a picture of the wrong M-16 prop but it was too late to replace the pic in the catalog. Finally...my firearms trivia knowledge has some real world application. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 23:55, 12 April 2021 (EDT)

Talk:The Mandalorian - Season 2

2020-11-30T18:27:43Z

Charon68: /* The A350 blaster rifle */

=When is it okay to add more information=
I was wondering, when is it a good time to add any new guns and pictures to the page after a new episode airs?--[[User:Thomoy15|Thomoy15]] ([[User talk:Thomoy15|talk]]) 23:28, 6 November 2020 (EST)

=The WESTAR-35=
I've had a look at some pictures of the WESTAR-35 blaster pistol from the show, and I think I figured out what pistol it's based on, I think it is the STI Edge 1911.
--[[User:Thomoy15|Thomoy15]] ([[User talk:Thomoy15|talk]]) 23:54, 13 November 2020 (EST)
:I would agree that it is probably a 1911 type gun, just not sure it is an STI Edge 1911 specifically. In the last image it looks like all of the pistols have double stack steps which would make them 2011s (assuming STIs), and they also have full length accessory rails. My guess would be a [[STI Perfect 10]] or something along those lines. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:23, 14 November 2020 (EST)
---Oh yes, I see it now. --[[User:Thomoy15|Thomoy15]] ([[User talk:Thomoy15|talk]]) 09:46, 14 November 2020 (EST)
:...Well that's certainly an interesting choice for recreating a weapon that was [https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/File:WESTAR35BlasterPistol-CON.png originally designed to use as few polygons as possible for CGI animation]. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] ([[User talk:The Wierd It|talk]]) 14:12, 14 November 2020 (EST)
-Interesting enough, I originally thought the WESTAR-35 would use the Desert Eagle as a basis for live action remake of it.--[[User:Thomoy15|Thomoy15]] ([[User talk:Thomoy15|talk]]) 15:06, 14 November 2020 (EST)

== The A350 blaster rifle ==

The newest episode (which was absolutely fantastic) has a bunch of the Magistrate's goons using A350 blaster rifles, which appear to be based on BARs, as well as some sort of shotgun blaster, which I thought might be a Benelli M3T Super 90 without the stock, but the trigger guard looks off. I'd post screenshots, but Disney Plus doesn't let me take them in a browser anymore. --[[User:BlackHawk510|BlackHawk510]] ([[User talk:BlackHawk510|talk]]) 20:39, 29 November 2020 (EST)
I think you might be right about them being based on shotguns. Heck, even Lang's blaster rifle looks like a shotgun
:My initial reaction was they were based on HCARs. The gas tube underneath the barrel is what kind of dinged it for me but I couldn't get a good look at the stock. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 13:27, 30 November 2020 (EST)

Talk:The Mandalorian - Season 2

2020-11-30T18:25:41Z

Charon68: /* A-350 Blaster Rifles */

Talk:The Mandalorian - Season 2

2020-11-30T18:25:13Z

Charon68: /* A-350 Blaster Rifles */ new section

=When is it okay to add more information=
I was wondering, when is it a good time to add any new guns and pictures to the page after a new episode airs?--[[User:Thomoy15|Thomoy15]] ([[User talk:Thomoy15|talk]]) 23:28, 6 November 2020 (EST)

=The WESTAR-35=
I've had a look at some pictures of the WESTAR-35 blaster pistol from the show, and I think I figured out what pistol it's based on, I think it is the STI Edge 1911.
--[[User:Thomoy15|Thomoy15]] ([[User talk:Thomoy15|talk]]) 23:54, 13 November 2020 (EST)
:I would agree that it is probably a 1911 type gun, just not sure it is an STI Edge 1911 specifically. In the last image it looks like all of the pistols have double stack steps which would make them 2011s (assuming STIs), and they also have full length accessory rails. My guess would be a [[STI Perfect 10]] or something along those lines. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:23, 14 November 2020 (EST)
---Oh yes, I see it now. --[[User:Thomoy15|Thomoy15]] ([[User talk:Thomoy15|talk]]) 09:46, 14 November 2020 (EST)
:...Well that's certainly an interesting choice for recreating a weapon that was [https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/File:WESTAR35BlasterPistol-CON.png originally designed to use as few polygons as possible for CGI animation]. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] ([[User talk:The Wierd It|talk]]) 14:12, 14 November 2020 (EST)
-Interesting enough, I originally thought the WESTAR-35 would use the Desert Eagle as a basis for live action remake of it.--[[User:Thomoy15|Thomoy15]] ([[User talk:Thomoy15|talk]]) 15:06, 14 November 2020 (EST)

== The A350 blaster rifle ==

The newest episode (which was absolutely fantastic) has a bunch of the Magistrate's goons using A350 blaster rifles, which appear to be based on BARs, as well as some sort of shotgun blaster, which I thought might be a Benelli M3T Super 90 without the stock, but the trigger guard looks off. I'd post screenshots, but Disney Plus doesn't let me take them in a browser anymore. --[[User:BlackHawk510|BlackHawk510]] ([[User talk:BlackHawk510|talk]]) 20:39, 29 November 2020 (EST)
I think you might be right about them being based on shotguns. Heck, even Lang's blaster rifle looks like a shotgun

== A-350 Blaster Rifles ==

Any real world template for them? Best image I could get wasn't specific but, based on the 'mag tube' below the barrel it's a shotgun of some sort...just not used to seeing one with a scope on top. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 13:25, 30 November 2020 (EST)

Talk:G.I. Jane

2020-09-16T19:13:31Z

Charon68: /* Unidentified Rifle - FAL? */

== M4 in this movie? ==

In the script, someone said "This is the Carb 15, military designator: M4". So I assumed there we'll see an M4 like weapon, but so far, I didn't see anything. During the dialogue, all we see is the barrel end of a Car-15 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

[[Image:GIJbarrel.jpg|thumb|none|700px| Is that tbe barrel of an M4?]]

:Yeah, in the movie he says, "This is a CAR-15, military designation M4". Which is, of course, far from true. The weapons I see in the screenshots all have the XM177-style flash hider, but the receiver types vary - some have the M16A1-style receiver, others the M16A2-style receiver. I'd guess they're just other AR carbine types with barrels chopped and fake XM177 flash hider installed, which MPM says characterizes the majority of such weapons seen in movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Unidentified Rifle - FAL? ==

I spotted one of the Rangers carrying some sort of 7.62mm rifle at roughly one hour and fifty minutes into the movie. It's just after they get the redirect to their new extract point. 

[[File:GIJaneUnidentified1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|]]
[[File:GIJaneUnidentified2.jpg|600px|thumb|none]]

To my civilian eyes it looks like a FAL of some kind. Anyone able to be more specific?

--Stix

It is definitely a FAL (metric pattern not inch pattern, can tell by the bolt handle in the second shot and the front sight wings) but without seeing the stock type or barrel length can't nail it down 100%. It has the regular three vent plastic handguard, so would just go for a regular FN FAL 50.00. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:55, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

:Strange that a Ranger should be toting a FAL huh? I wonder why they (director/armourers) decided to put that gun in the dude's hands...? I wondered if perhaps the Ranger team had gotten into some sort of contact earlier and the gun had been taken, or stolen, as a souvenir. Did the armed forces or anyone else in Libya ever use FALs? On that note, how common is "souvenir hunting" among American or other NATO servicemen? Is it actually allowed? --Stix #ps - thanx c552 for cleaning up my messy first edit :D
::I remember seeing a couple of articles around the time Qadaffi fell showing the various rebel groups carrying everything from FN2000s, to FN FALs and, somehow, MP-44s. Thanks to its' oil wealth Libya had access to some of the best Europe had to offer to the point it, in many cases, had more weapons than troops most of which wound up in rebel hands when they overran Libyan armouries. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 15:13, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

::I'm more perplexed as to why they're dressed entirely in ''black''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:04, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Bosch - Season 5

2019-05-16T00:23:06Z

Charon68: Created page with "Smith & Wesson 76 In the season finale, when Bosch is opening his gun safe, you see the barrel shroud and stock of an Smith & Wesson 76 before he takes the cut down M..."

[[Smith & Wesson 76]]

In the season finale, when Bosch is opening his gun safe, you see the barrel shroud and stock of an [[Smith & Wesson 76]] before he takes the cut down Mossberg out. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 20:23, 15 May 2019 (EDT)

Talk:Beretta M12

2018-07-20T00:54:43Z

Charon68:

I think that this page should be moved to the Beretta M12 section because the weapon actually '''is''' a Beretta M12. But I think it should be decided by popular vote.- [[User:TheDon152]]

Yes, the two pages should be consolidated. The "info" needs to be changed as well. It says the M12s is a "folding stock variant of the M12". Well, both the M12 and the M12s have folding stocks, there really is no difference in that regard. There ''was'' a wooden stock option for the M12, but as far as I know, it wasn't that common. Perhaps the writer of this article thought the M12 only came with a wooden stock? The major difference between the two versions is the safety. The M12 has a bush button safety, separate from the fire selector lever, while the M12s incorporates the safety with the fire selector lever.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 21:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:Whoa, I wonder who the hell did this? But yes, thanks for alerting me, I'll get this sorted at once. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:26, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

:Alright, fixed. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Weird aside I know but I was watching Ken Burns' The Vietnam War when, during an episode about the Tet Offensive, the showed a CIA guy hosing a window of the American embassy during the siege with what was clearly an M12. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 19:35, 19 July 2018 (EDT)
:I don't think that guy was necessarily CIA, the Marines guarding the embassy had a stock of Beretta SMGs. This was apparently the first time the gun was ever used in combat. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:01, 19 July 2018 (EDT)
::I don't know. The dude wasn't wearing a flack jacket or helmet. The literal short sleeved white shirt and black pants/tie. Almost screamed spook to me. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 20:54, 19 July 2018 (EDT)

Talk:Beretta M12

2018-07-19T23:35:03Z

Charon68:

Talk:Death Wish (2018)

2018-05-28T02:08:55Z

Charon68:

== Please help ID ==

Please help ID this rifle. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:30, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

[[File:DW17 113.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:DW17 115.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The trailer doesn't tell us where he got a full auto rifle, but let's hope he didn't just go into a gun store in Chicago to get it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 18:00, 7 August 2017 (EDT)

:That is definitely an F1 Firearms gun. I think it is a BDR-15-3G Pistol but it has a different handgaurd to the image shown on their site, although it looks like the 9.75" C7K handguard is an optional extra which is what I think this gun has. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:05, 7 August 2017 (EDT)
::Not only is the the thing full auto but it seems to be suppressed and you get the feeling from the scene that he did, in fact, buy it at a local gun store. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 22:08, 27 May 2018 (EDT)

Talk:Bosch - Season 4

2018-05-12T14:57:26Z

Charon68: Created page with "==LAPD Firearms Lab== Is it just me or do there appear to be flintlock pistols on the racks? And, incidentally, that appears to be a Steyr HS-50 on the table at the front. --..."

==LAPD Firearms Lab==
Is it just me or do there appear to be flintlock pistols on the racks? And, incidentally, that appears to be a Steyr HS-50 on the table at the front. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 10:57, 12 May 2018 (EDT)

Talk:Fear the Walking Dead - Season 3

2018-04-21T01:14:57Z

Charon68: Created page with "==M4A1== Is there something off about the carrying handle of the pictured M4 or is it just me? --~~~~"

==M4A1==
Is there something off about the carrying handle of the pictured M4 or is it just me? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:14, 20 April 2018 (EDT)

Talk:The 100 - Season 3

2018-03-21T01:04:58Z

Charon68: /* M134 Minigun */ new section

== M134 Minigun ==

The thing is a complete mockup. If you look closely you can see the barrels are blocked. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:04, 20 March 2018 (EDT)

Talk:Legends of Tomorrow - Season 3

2017-11-30T01:55:54Z

Charon68: Created page with "Pretty sure the aircraft pictured are supposed to be A-1 Skyraiders. --~~~~"

Pretty sure the aircraft pictured are supposed to be A-1 Skyraiders. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 20:55, 29 November 2017 (EST)

Narcos - Season 3

2017-09-16T21:34:27Z

Charon68:

{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}
|name={{PAGENAME}}
|picture=Narcos-Title.jpg
|caption=
|country=[[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States
|channel = [[Netflix]]
|genre = [[:Category:Drama|Drama]] [[:Category:Crime|Crime]]
|creator = Chris Brancato Carlo Bernard Doug Miro Annab Khan
|dates=2017
|language= English Spanish
|episodes =10
|character1= DEA Agent Javier Peña
|actor1= [[Pedro Pascal]]
|character2=Gilberto Rodríguez Orejuela
|actor2=Damián Alcázar
}}

{{TV Title Season|3|Narcos|Narcos}}

__TOC__ 

=Pistols=
==Beretta 92FS==
Colombian National Police officers, are armed with [[Beretta 92FS]] pistols.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]

==EKOL Firat Magnum==
Agent Javier Pena ([[Pedro Pascal]]) main weapon continues to be what appears to be a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]], but this pistol is likely a blank-firing [[EKOL|EKOL Firat Magnum]].
[[Image:ekolfirat.JPG|thumb|none|300px|EKOL Firat Magnum (stainless) - 8mm P.A. blanks]]

=Rifles/Carbines=
==IMI Galil AR==
The [[Galil#Galil_AR|IMI Galil AR]] is frequently used by members of the Colombian National Police, Colombian Army, Search Bloc Officers and AUC Soldiers.
[[File:GalilAR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Galil AR - 5.56x45mm]]

==IMI Galil ACE==
Another weapon that is introduced to in Season 2 is the [[Galil ACE]] predominantly the ACE 21 and 23 variants.
[[Image:Galil ACE 21.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Galil ACE 21 with Meprolight red dot sight - 5.56x45mm NATO]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Gletcher UZM==
Although a large number of Mini-Uzis appear to be used by various Narcos throughout the series in episode seven of the third season Salcedo is seen assembling a weapon that clearly has the markings 'Gletcher UZM' an Uzi replica powered by CO2 cartridges which fires .177 pellets.
[[File:MiniUzi_01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|]]

[[Category:Television]]

Talk:6 Days

2017-08-27T12:24:32Z

Charon68: /* MP-5 Magazines */ new section

==Terrorist Revolver==
One of the terrorist's uses a revolver which, I am pretty sure, is a Smith & Wesson 686 but I couldn't see it clearly. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 17:17, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

==Smith & Wesson .38==
Metropolitan Police Constable Trevor Lock is seen with what is described as a 'Smith & Wesson .38' but the full weapon is never seen as, with in real life, it never leaves its' holster.

==Amazon Video ==

You can actually watch this on Amazon [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:44, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

== MP5SD ==

I don't think that's an MP5SD, rather I think it's some sort of barrel shroud or compensator on a regular MP5. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:17, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
::Actually during the briefing Colonel Rose specifically mentions using "...silenced weapons" and when the envisioned run through happens you hear the cliched 'Hollywood' sound of suppressed weapons. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 08:22, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

== MP-5 Magazines ==

During the raid and the run throughs the SAS troopers are all using curved MP-5 mags. I thought those didn't come into use until later in the 1980s and they were still using the old straight mags at the time of Operation Nimrod. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 08:24, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

Talk:6 Days

2017-08-27T12:22:59Z

Charon68:

Talk:6 Days

2017-08-20T21:17:51Z

Charon68: Created page with "==Terrorist Revolver== One of the terrorist's uses a revolver which, I am pretty sure, is a Smith & Wesson 686 but I couldn't see it clearly. --~~~~"

6 Days

2017-08-20T21:16:32Z

Charon68: /* Handguns */

{{upcoming}}

[[Image:6D.jpg‎|thumb|300px|right|''6 Days'' (2017)]]

{{Film Title}}

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
==FN Hi-Power==
The [[FN Hi-Power]] appears to be the handgun carried by the Special Air Service (SAS).
[[Image:L9A1.jpg|thumb|300px|none|British L9A1 and licensed FN Hi-Power - 9x19mm]]
[[File:6D 621.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
==Unknown Smith & Wesson .38==
Metropolitan Police Constable Trevor Lock is seen with what is described as a 'Smith & Wesson .38' but the full weapon is never seen as, with in real life, it never leaves its' holster.

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] is the main weapon carried by members of the Special Air Service (SAS).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:6D 601.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==
A [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]] is carried by several SAS soldiers.
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9x19mm. This is a very well worn Motion picture weapon]]
[[File:6D 621.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD==
During the rundown of a proposed operation two SAS operatives including Rusty Firmin ([[Jamie Bell]]) are seen wielding [[Heckler & Koch MP5SD]]s.
[[File:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==PM-63 RAK==
One of the terrorists appears to be armed with an [[PM-63 RAK]].
[[Image:PM63.JPG|thumb|350px|none|PM-63 RAK - 9x18mm Makarov]]

==SA Vz.61 Skorpion==
One of the terrorists appears to be armed with an [[SA Vz.61 Skorpion]].
[[Image:Yugoslav Model 61 Skorpion.jpg|thumb|350px|none|CZ Vz. 61 E / Yugoslavian made M84 distinguishable by its black pistol grip - .32 ACP]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]

6 Days

2017-08-20T21:07:25Z

Charon68: /* Heckler & Koch MP5SD */

{{upcoming}}

[[Image:6D.jpg‎|thumb|300px|right|''6 Days'' (2017)]]

{{Film Title}}

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
==FN Hi-Power==
The [[FN Hi-Power]] appears to be the handgun carried by the Special Air Service (SAS).
[[Image:L9A1.jpg|thumb|300px|none|British L9A1 and licensed FN Hi-Power - 9x19mm]]
[[File:6D 621.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] is the main weapon carried by members of the Special Air Service (SAS).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:6D 601.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==
A [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]] is carried by several SAS soldiers.
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9x19mm. This is a very well worn Motion picture weapon]]
[[File:6D 621.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD==
During the rundown of a proposed operation two SAS operatives including Rusty Firmin ([[Jamie Bell]]) are seen wielding [[Heckler & Koch MP5SD]]s.
[[File:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==PM-63 RAK==
One of the terrorists appears to be armed with an [[PM-63 RAK]].
[[Image:PM63.JPG|thumb|350px|none|PM-63 RAK - 9x18mm Makarov]]

==SA Vz.61 Skorpion==
One of the terrorists appears to be armed with an [[SA Vz.61 Skorpion]].
[[Image:Yugoslav Model 61 Skorpion.jpg|thumb|350px|none|CZ Vz. 61 E / Yugoslavian made M84 distinguishable by its black pistol grip - .32 ACP]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]

6 Days

2017-08-20T20:49:09Z

Charon68: /* Submachine Guns */

{{upcoming}}

[[Image:6D.jpg‎|thumb|300px|right|''6 Days'' (2017)]]

{{Film Title}}

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
==FN Hi-Power==
The [[FN Hi-Power]] appears to be the handgun carried by the Special Air Service (SAS).
[[Image:L9A1.jpg|thumb|300px|none|British L9A1 and licensed FN Hi-Power - 9x19mm]]
[[File:6D 621.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] is the main weapon carried by members of the Special Air Service (SAS).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:6D 601.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==
A [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]] is carried by several SAS soldiers.
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9x19mm. This is a very well worn Motion picture weapon]]
[[File:6D 621.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD==
During the rundown of a proposed operation two SAS operatives including Rusty Firmin ([[Jamie Bell]]) are seen wielding [edit] [[Heckler & Koch MP5SD]]s.
[[File:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==PM-63 RAK==
One of the terrorists appears to be armed with an [[PM-63 RAK]].
[[Image:PM63.JPG|thumb|350px|none|PM-63 RAK - 9x18mm Makarov]]

==SA Vz.61 Skorpion==
One of the terrorists appears to be armed with an [[SA Vz.61 Skorpion]].
[[Image:Yugoslav Model 61 Skorpion.jpg|thumb|350px|none|CZ Vz. 61 E / Yugoslavian made M84 distinguishable by its black pistol grip - .32 ACP]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]

File:Six Days.jpg

2017-08-20T01:58:11Z

Charon68: Movie Poster for Six Days (2017)

Movie Poster for Six Days (2017)

Superman II

2017-06-23T00:45:58Z

Charon68: /* RL-83 Blindicide Rocket Launcher */

[[Image:supermanII.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Superman II'' (1980)]]

'''''Superman II''''' is the 1980 sequel to 1978's ''[[Superman: The Movie]]''. The sequel finds the Man of Steel having to battle three Kryptonian criminal who have escaped a space prison and are intent on conquering Earth. Both ''[[Superman: The Movie]]'' and its sequel were filmed simultaneously, but production conflicts led to director [[Richard Donner]] departing before completing the second film. ''Superman II'' was subsequently finished and released with new scenes under the direction of [[Richard Lester]]. In 2006, [[Richard Donner]] and editor Michael Thau collaborated to restore as much of Donner's original vision as possible with newly discovered footage. This version of the film was released on video under the title: "Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut". Many alternate sequences were restored (and a few excised) as well as the appearance of Superman's father Jor-El ([[Marlon Brando]]).

{{Film Title}}

__TOC__ 

{{Spoilers}}

=Shotguns=
==Coach Shotgun==
Dwayne (Peter Whitman), the young deputy who confronts the supervillains, aims a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Coach-style]] shotgun at General Zod ([[Terence Stamp]]). After he superheats the barrels with his heat vision, Zod takes the shotgun away and fires a blast into his chest to no ill effect. Zod then comments, "A weapon of some sort."
[[Image:Blued stainlessreceiver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stoeger/IGA Coach Gun Supreme Blue with Stainless Receiver - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Sup2 02.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deputy Dwayne (Peter Whitman) with his shotgun as he confronts the supervillains.]]
[[File:Sup2 04.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The deputy armed with the shotgun.]]
[[Image:SII-shotgun.jpg‎ |thumb|none|601px|Zod superheats Deputy Dwayne's 12 Gauge Sawed off Double Barreled Shotgun.]]
[[Image:SII-shotgun2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|601px|Zod fires at himself several times (just once in the Richard Donner cut). Note how only smoke is seen coming out instead of a muzzle flash. (Likely this was done because even blanks are still very dangerous when fired at close range.)]]

==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==
In the Theatrical Cut, Joey aims his [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] at Zod and his friends until Zod moves him around.
[[Image:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|500px|1960s Era Commercial Stevens hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:SIIStevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the Theatrical Cut, Joey is armed with a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] just before he's levitated by Zod.]]

=Handguns=
==Colt Python==
US Capitol police who defend the White House against the supervillains are seen armed with [[Colt Python]]s. Both Deputy Dwayne as well as the Sheriff ([[Clifton James]]) appear to carry the revolvers as well.
[[Image:Colt-Python.jpg|thumb|300px|none|[[Colt Python]] with 4" Barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:Colt-Python2.jpg|thumb|601px|none|In the Theatrical Cut, Capitol police officer fires his [[Colt Python]] in defense of the White House.]]
[[Image:SII-Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deputy Dwayne's holstered revolver is seen on the left.]]

==Colt Detective Special==
Secret Service agents are seen firing their [[Colt Detective Special]] revolvers at Zod, Ursula, and Non during the battle at the White House.
[[File:ColtDetectiveSpec SquareButt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special 1st Gen with Square Butt - .38 Special]]
[[Image:SII-ColtDS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Secret Service agent fires his Colt Detective Special.]]

==M1911A1==
Several agents and US Army officers carry the [[M1911A1]].
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|World War 2 issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SIIM1911Colt.jpg|thumb|601px|none|A US Army officer escapes from his Jeep with a holstered [[M1911A1]] on his hip.]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The MP on the near left is armed with an M1911A1..]]
[[Image:M2-2FlameAth-SII.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The soldier on the right appears to hold the M1911A1.]]

=Machine Guns=
==FN MAG-58 (mocked up as M60 machine gun)==
US Marines defending the White House are seen firing what appears to be an [[M60]] machine gun at General Zod before Non (Jack O' Halloran) takes the machine gun and breaks it in half. In reality, the machine is an [[FN MAG]] mocked up to resemble the [[M60]].
[[Image:FNMAG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|FN MAG 58 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:S2 301.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The machine gun team firing the mocked up FN MAG.]]
[[Image:M60-SII.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Marine machine gun team stare in amazement as a roof collapses on several of them. While the foregrip resembles the M60, the stock and the carry handle are from an FN MAG.]]
[[Image:S2 306.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Here the FN MAG is readily identifiable.]]
[[Image:Sup2_337.jpg|thumb|none|601px| Non (Jack O'Halloran) takes the machine gun and breaks it in half. Note how this breakaway prop was molded to resemble the mockup and not a real M60.]]

=Rifles=
==M16 Rifle==
US Army soldiers use [[M16#M16 Rifle|M16s]] while engaging the supervillains in East Houston, Idaho.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-SII.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A news report with a soldier running with an M16.]]
[[Image:Sup2_61.jpg|thumb|none|601px|US soldiers with their M16 rifles.]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Soldiers fire their M16 rifles.]]

==Armalite AR-10==
The US Marines who defend the White House can be seen using [[Armalite AR-10]] rifles during the attack by the supervillains. In the Richard Donner cut, General Zod is seen using an Armalite to kill several agents.
[[Image:Ar10-1.jpg|thumb|none|501px|Armalite AR-10, "Sudanese" model - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Marine fires his AR-10 in the White House before Non smashes the pillar on him.]]
[[Image:SII-M16Zod.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Zod uses the Armalite on several Marines and security guards.]]

==Winchester Model 1892==
A prison guard is armed with a [[Winchester Model 1892]].
[[Image:Winchester1892Carbine.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1892 - .38-40]]
[[Image:Superman II-carbinegun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A prison guard guards the prison with his Winchester Model 1892.]]

=Submachine Guns=
==M3 "Grease Gun"==
One Green Beret uses an [[M3 / M3A1 "Grease Gun"|M3 "Grease Gun"]] to shoot at Zod, Non, and Ursalla during the East Houston battle.
[[Image:M3_Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3 "Grease Gun" .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Sup2_62.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Green Beret with the M3 Grease Gun in the theatrical cut.]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Green Beret in the center reloads his M3 "Grease Gun".]]

==MAT-49==
In the Theatrical Cut, several of the terrorists who have taken over the Eiffel Tower in Paris carry [[MAT-49]]s. Some have their stock removed.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|MAT-49 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Superman II-MAT-49.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A terrorist ([[Richard Griffiths]]) holds a MAT-49 while escorting prisoners.]]
[[Image:Superman II-MAT-49-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|602px|A terrorist at the Eiffel Tower with his MAT-49.]]

=Other=
==M2 Flamethrower==
An Army soldier is seen with an [[M2 Flamethrower]] when Zod uses his super breath to direct the flame at the diner.
[[Image:M2-2FlameAth.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M2-2 Flamethrower]]
[[Image:M2-2FlameAth-SII.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Zod directs the flame fired by the M2 Flamethrower with his super breath.]]

==M9A1 Bazooka==
A Green Beret team is seen firing an [[M1 Bazooka#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 Bazooka]], but Non catches the rocket.
[[Image:M9bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M9A1 "Bazooka" - 2.36 inch]]

[[Image:M20A1SuperBazooka-SII.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Green Berets with the M9A1 Bazooka stare in amazement when Non catches their fired rocket. ]]

== RL-83 Blindicide Rocket Launcher ==
A Marine bazooka team at the White House is seen firing what appears to be an [[Blindicide|RL-83 Blindicide]] at Non, but to no effect.
[[File:Blindicide.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RL-83 Blindicide Rocket Launcher]]
[[File:Sup2 23.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the Richard Donner cut, a Marine bazooka team prepares to use the launcher. (Note that the round appears to be too big to actually place inside that end of the launcher).]]
[[Image:SII-M20.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Marine bazooka team firing the RL-83 Blindicide]]

{{Superman Series}}
[[Category: Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category: Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Richard Lester]]

Superman II

2017-06-20T23:25:59Z

Charon68: /* M20 Super Bazooka */

[[Image:supermanII.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Superman II'' (1980)]]

'''''Superman II''''' is the 1980 sequel to 1978's ''[[Superman: The Movie]]''. The sequel finds the Man of Steel having to battle three Kryptonian criminal who have escaped a space prison and are intent on conquering Earth. Both ''[[Superman: The Movie]]'' and its sequel were filmed simultaneously, but production conflicts led to director [[Richard Donner]] departing before completing the second film. ''Superman II'' was subsequently finished and released with new scenes under the direction of [[Richard Lester]]. In 2006, [[Richard Donner]] and editor Michael Thau collaborated to restore as much of Donner's original vision as possible with newly discovered footage. This version of the film was released on video under the title: "Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut". Many alternate sequences were restored (and a few excised) as well as the appearance of Superman's father Jor-El ([[Marlon Brando]]).

{{Film Title}}

__TOC__ 

{{Spoilers}}

=Shotguns=
==Coach Shotgun==
Dwayne (Peter Whitman), the young deputy who confronts the supervillains, aims a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Coach-style]] shotgun at General Zod ([[Terence Stamp]]). After he superheats the barrels with his heat vision, Zod takes the shotgun away and fires a blast into his chest to no ill effect. Zod then comments, "A weapon of some sort."
[[Image:Blued stainlessreceiver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stoeger/IGA Coach Gun Supreme Blue with Stainless Receiver - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Sup2 02.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deputy Dwayne (Peter Whitman) with his shotgun as he confronts the supervillains.]]
[[File:Sup2 04.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The deputy armed with the shotgun.]]
[[Image:SII-shotgun.jpg‎ |thumb|none|601px|Zod superheats Deputy Dwayne's 12 Gauge Sawed off Double Barreled Shotgun.]]
[[Image:SII-shotgun2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|601px|Zod fires at himself several times (just once in the Richard Donner cut). Note how only smoke is seen coming out instead of a muzzle flash. (Likely this was done because even blanks are still very dangerous when fired at close range.)]]

==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==
In the Theatrical Cut, Joey aims his [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] at Zod and his friends until Zod moves him around.
[[Image:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|500px|1960s Era Commercial Stevens hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:SIIStevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the Theatrical Cut, Joey is armed with a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] just before he's levitated by Zod.]]

=Handguns=
==Colt Python==
US Capitol police who defend the White House against the supervillains are seen armed with [[Colt Python]]s. Both Deputy Dwayne as well as the Sheriff ([[Clifton James]]) appear to carry the revolvers as well.
[[Image:Colt-Python.jpg|thumb|300px|none|[[Colt Python]] with 4" Barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:Colt-Python2.jpg|thumb|601px|none|In the Theatrical Cut, Capitol police officer fires his [[Colt Python]] in defense of the White House.]]
[[Image:SII-Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deputy Dwayne's holstered revolver is seen on the left.]]

==Colt Detective Special==
Secret Service agents are seen firing their [[Colt Detective Special]] revolvers at Zod, Ursula, and Non during the battle at the White House.
[[File:ColtDetectiveSpec SquareButt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special 1st Gen with Square Butt - .38 Special]]
[[Image:SII-ColtDS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Secret Service agent fires his Colt Detective Special.]]

==M1911A1==
Several agents and US Army officers carry the [[M1911A1]].
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|World War 2 issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SIIM1911Colt.jpg|thumb|601px|none|A US Army officer escapes from his Jeep with a holstered [[M1911A1]] on his hip.]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The MP on the near left is armed with an M1911A1..]]
[[Image:M2-2FlameAth-SII.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The soldier on the right appears to hold the M1911A1.]]

=Machine Guns=
==FN MAG-58 (mocked up as M60 machine gun)==
US Marines defending the White House are seen firing what appears to be an [[M60]] machine gun at General Zod before Non (Jack O' Halloran) takes the machine gun and breaks it in half. In reality, the machine is an [[FN MAG]] mocked up to resemble the [[M60]].
[[Image:FNMAG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|FN MAG 58 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:S2 301.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The machine gun team firing the mocked up FN MAG.]]
[[Image:M60-SII.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Marine machine gun team stare in amazement as a roof collapses on several of them. While the foregrip resembles the M60, the stock and the carry handle are from an FN MAG.]]
[[Image:S2 306.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Here the FN MAG is readily identifiable.]]
[[Image:Sup2_337.jpg|thumb|none|601px| Non (Jack O'Halloran) takes the machine gun and breaks it in half. Note how this breakaway prop was molded to resemble the mockup and not a real M60.]]

=Rifles=
==M16 Rifle==
US Army soldiers use [[M16#M16 Rifle|M16s]] while engaging the supervillains in East Houston, Idaho.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-SII.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A news report with a soldier running with an M16.]]
[[Image:Sup2_61.jpg|thumb|none|601px|US soldiers with their M16 rifles.]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Soldiers fire their M16 rifles.]]

==Armalite AR-10==
The US Marines who defend the White House can be seen using [[Armalite AR-10]] rifles during the attack by the supervillains. In the Richard Donner cut, General Zod is seen using an Armalite to kill several agents.
[[Image:Ar10-1.jpg|thumb|none|501px|Armalite AR-10, "Sudanese" model - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Marine fires his AR-10 in the White House before Non smashes the pillar on him.]]
[[Image:SII-M16Zod.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Zod uses the Armalite on several Marines and security guards.]]

==Winchester Model 1892==
A prison guard is armed with a [[Winchester Model 1892]].
[[Image:Winchester1892Carbine.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1892 - .38-40]]
[[Image:Superman II-carbinegun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A prison guard guards the prison with his Winchester Model 1892.]]

=Submachine Guns=
==M3 "Grease Gun"==
One Green Beret uses an [[M3 / M3A1 "Grease Gun"|M3 "Grease Gun"]] to shoot at Zod, Non, and Ursalla during the East Houston battle.
[[Image:M3_Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3 "Grease Gun" .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Sup2_62.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Green Beret with the M3 Grease Gun in the theatrical cut.]]
[[Image:SII-M16A1w30rdMag-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Green Beret in the center reloads his M3 "Grease Gun".]]

==MAT-49==
In the Theatrical Cut, several of the terrorists who have taken over the Eiffel Tower in Paris carry [[MAT-49]]s. Some have their stock removed.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|MAT-49 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Superman II-MAT-49.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A terrorist ([[Richard Griffiths]]) holds a MAT-49 while escorting prisoners.]]
[[Image:Superman II-MAT-49-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|602px|A terrorist at the Eiffel Tower with his MAT-49.]]

=Other=
==M2 Flamethrower==
An Army soldier is seen with an [[M2 Flamethrower]] when Zod uses his super breath to direct the flame at the diner.
[[Image:M2-2FlameAth.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M2-2 Flamethrower]]
[[Image:M2-2FlameAth-SII.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Zod directs the flame fired by the M2 Flamethrower with his super breath.]]

==M9A1 Bazooka==
A Green Beret team is seen firing an [[M1 Bazooka#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 Bazooka]], but Non catches the rocket.
[[Image:M9bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M9A1 "Bazooka" - 2.36 inch]]

[[Image:M20A1SuperBazooka-SII.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Green Berets with the M9A1 Bazooka stare in amazement when Non catches their fired rocket. ]]

== RL-83 Blindicide Rocket Launcher ==
A Marine bazooka team at the White House is seen firing what appears to be an [[Blindicide|RL-83 Blindicide]] at Non, but to no effect.
[[File:Blindicide.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RL-83 Blindicide Rocket Launcher]]
[[File:Sup2 23.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the Richard Donner cut, a Marine bazooka team prepares to use the launcher. Note that this launcher is actually being held the wrong way (the round appears to be too big to actually place inside that end of the launcher).]]
[[Image:SII-M20.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Marine bazooka team firing the RL-83 Blindicide]]

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Talk:War Machine

2017-05-27T13:38:04Z

Charon68: /* Small Points */

==Additional Weapons==
The Para SAW has a fixed stock, not collapsible, I don't know if that necessarily matters. Additionally Duckman appears to be armed with an M933 but the handguards don't look milspec. I also saw some of the Marines whose weapons were loaded with PMAGs with the 'window'. (non firearms related but...)In addition I am sure that I saw the SIG P-226 in the holsters of some of the US and UK personnel and there was a scene with, presumably, some Special Ops guys loading up.--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 09:30, 27 May 2017 (EDT)

Talk:War Machine

2017-05-27T13:30:28Z

Charon68: Created page with "==Small Points== The Para SAW has a fixed stock, not collapsible, I don't know if that necessarily matters. Additionally Duckman appears to be armed with an M933 but the handg..."

==Small Points==
The Para SAW has a fixed stock, not collapsible, I don't know if that necessarily matters. Additionally Duckman appears to be armed with an M933 but the handguards don't look milspec. And finally I saw some of the Marines whose weapons were loaded with PMAGs with the 'window'. (non firearms related but...)--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 09:30, 27 May 2017 (EDT)

Talk:NCIS: Los Angeles - Season 8

2017-05-04T01:44:36Z

Charon68: /* Orange Tip */ new section

Patriots Day

2017-02-17T02:44:49Z

Charon68:

{{NowShowing}}

{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Patriots Day
|picture = PatriotsD.jpg
|caption = ''Poster''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|border|25px]] United States
|director = [[Peter Berg]]
|date= 2016
|language =
|studio=
|distributor=Lionsgate
|character1=Tommy Saunders
|actor1=[[Mark Wahlberg]]
|character2= Jeffrey Pugliese
|actor2=[[J.K. Simmons]]
|character3= Richard DesLauriers
|actor3=[[Kevin Bacon]]
|character4=Ed Davis
|actor4=[[John Goodman]]
|character5= Carol Saunders
|actor5=[[Michelle Monaghan]]
}}

'''''Patriots Day''''' is a 2016 crime drama directed by [[Peter Berg]] and follows the events before and after the terrorist bombing of the Boston Marathon in 2013. The film's cast includes [[Mark Wahlberg]], [[J.K. Simmons]], [[John Goodman]], [[Kevin Bacon]] and [[Michelle Monaghan]]. The film also marks the third collaboration between Berg and Wahlberg that was based on real events, following 2013's ''[[Lone Survivor]]'' and 2016's ''Deepwater Horizon''.

{{Film Title}}
__TOC__ 
== Glock 17 ==
The [[Glock 17]] is carried by officers of law enforcement in the film, including Sgt. Tommy Saunders ([[Mark Wahlberg]]) and Sgt. Jeffrey Pugliese ([[J.K. Simmons]]).
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd Generation Glock 17 - 9x19mm. Note the finger grooves, thumb reliefs, and accessory rail on the frame, which differentiate it from the older model.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 211.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Glock 17]] is drawn by Boston PD Sgt. Tommy Saunders ([[Mark Wahlberg]]).]]
[[File:PatriotsD 254.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Saunders with his Glock drawn during the night shootout.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 206.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Glock 17]] is drawn by Watertown PD Sgt. Jeffrey Pugliese ([[J.K. Simmons]]).]]

== Colt Law Enforcement Model 6920 Carbine==
The "[[M16 rifle series#Colt Law Enforcement Carbine|Law Enforcement Carbine]] is used by Boston PD SWAT and FBI HRT Agents.
[[Image:ColtLawEnforcementCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Colt Law Enforcement Carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:PatriotsD 200.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boston PD SWAT officers on patrol armed with their carbines.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FBI SWAT agents with their suppressed carbines.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 251.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boston SWAT officer with his carbine.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 212.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrels of the carbines are visible.]]

==Colt M933==
Some officers are armed with the [[Colt Model 933]].
[[Image:Colt m4 commando 03.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 933 with 4-position stock - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:PatriotsD 260.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The officer fires his carbine during the night shootout.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer with his carbine during the night shootout.]]

==Mossberg 500==
Some officers carry the [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun.
[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Mossberg 500 -12 gauge]]
[[File:PatriotsD 253.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer with his shotgun during the standoff.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5==
At least one Boston SWAT officer has a [[Heckler & Koch MP5|MP5A2]] during the standoff.
[[File:2MP5A2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Milkor MGL==
An FBI HRT team member uses a Milkor [[Milkor MGL|Mark 14 / M32A1]] to deliver '40 Mike Bang' during the climax of the movie.
[[File:Milkor Mark 14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Drama]]
[[Category:Biographical Movie]]

Talk:Patriots Day

2017-02-16T00:24:34Z

Charon68: /* ARs */

== ARs ==

I haven't seen this yet so am only going by the screenshots, but all of the "LE Carbines" appear to actually have M4 length barrels. Also, I think that the carbines carried by the FBI SWAT might actually be HK416s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:10, 14 January 2017 (EST)
:I agree about the 416s. Just saw it and it does look like the HRT members are armed with them. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 19:24, 15 February 2017 (EST)

== Colt 933 ==

My question is why would a beat cop have an automatic weapon in his patrol vehicle? I have heard and seen (even here in Canada) cops with Colt LE carbines in their vehicle which is semi-auto only but this? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 08:39, 28 January 2017 (EST)
:I haven't seen the film, but is the gun actually shown being fired in automatic? If not, bear in mind that Colt make the LE6933 which is a semi-only variant of the 933 for LE use. Generally speaking the majority of Colt rifles have a LE/civillian version that is semi-only, we just list them as the military variant (e.g. Model 933, M4A1, M16A4) as there is no way to tell the difference most of the time, they more often than not are intended to portray the military variant, and in a lot of cases the guns will actually be a civilian variant fitted with a full auto lower from a different gun making them indistinguishable from a real full0auto variant. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:30, 28 January 2017 (EST)
::Definitely full-auto. At one point the officer who fires the weapon refers to it as "the machinegun" before grabbing it and going rock and roll with the thing. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 19:55, 29 January 2017 (EST)

Talk:MacGyver (1985 TV Series)

2017-02-02T00:38:04Z

Charon68: /* Valmet M71S */ new section

==Politics & IMFDB==
May I ask why we are giving a page to one of the most anti gun shows in history?

:Because this is not a political site. The political stance of a movie on gun use do not concern us; indeed, given how anti-gun Hollywood tends to be, this site would probably not exist at all if politics factored in. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Maybe a disclaimer that we dissaprove of the shows message would be good like was done on the page ''[[Redacted]]''.

==the show was idioticly anti gun, but==
Was there an ongoing overt political message? I didn't watch the show on a regular basis, I thought it was really stupid, but I did watch the series finale and the entire thing with idiot boy MacGyver taking out a bad guy, kicking away the gun but not taking it or throwing it into a lake or something and then having the guy get up and shoot MacGyver's friends was inexcusable in its stupidity. If there was ALWAYS an on going 'message' about how guns were evil, then we 'could' put up a disclaimer, but I don't think it was that obvious to the casual viewer. As per myself, I always thought of it as trying to force the show to come up with weird and nonstandard solutions to problems. Richard Dean Anderson DID use tons of guns later in Stargate SG1 and he used them correctly! (i.e. when he shot bad guys, he shoots to kill). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 16:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

If I remember correctly he handled them well too. I remember he had good trigger discipline in at least one episode because I remember his finger being rested on the trigger guard on an MP5 in at least one scene on a Goa'uld mothership. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:31, 11 July 2011 (CDT)

==Richard Dean Anderson==
The reason for all the anti-gun BS is Richard Dean Anderson. This jackass is on the board of directors of "Handgun Control, Inc" and insisted after the pilot that his character never use a gun.

Hi Mr Anon first, sign your posts! Second, get your facts straight. The series was originally developed with the character not using guns because they wanted to create a character who would use his mind to get out of situations instead of just shooting someone. They wanted something different than the tons of other spy shows that were out there and MacGyver delivered. The series wasn't anti gun, anything that went on behind the scenes doesn't matter when it comes to the actual show. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 05:30, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

==Politics and the movie/television Industry==
I agree with [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]. Everyone knows that Hollywood (and probably many of the other movie folks in other countries) tend to be rather knee jerk in their left leaning politics. Especially when it comes to firearms. But IMFDB is about firearms in movies,television etc. If we used political beliefs as the criteria most of the actor pages that I've created over the past two years would be gone. The fact of the matter is that MacGyver was on television for many years and firearms were used. Yes in the real world MacGyver would be dead. But then so would James Bond and all of the heroic characters that [[Bruce Willis]] has played over the years.

:For the record, Bruce Willis is a proud gun owner and gun rights supporder

The discussion page is for just that. We need to keep the actual page free of political content. IMFDB is a reference site. Not an extension of the NRA or GOA. And I am a card carrying member of the NRA incidentally. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::We did the disclaimer on the [[Redacted]] page because we have tons of veterans (who deserve our respect) who were truly offended by that movie. It was a rare instance, and in only rare and outrageous instances will we do that. MacGyver is idiotic, but seriously, the politics were only really present behind the scenes, not on the screen. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:52, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, I watched the show growing up, the only reason MacGyver doesn't use a gun was due to his tramatic childhood of accidently shooting one of his best friends. Many of MacGyver's close friends and allies (many are government agents or police officers) used guns and MacGyver never make any objection. Only when civilians without training picked up guns dropped by the bad guys when MacGyver stopped them.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 19:06, 11 July 2011 (CDT)

== Valmet M71S ==

That second picture with the pilot firing the weapon. Maybe it's me but the thing looks like an AK series weapon (maybe a Type 56) rather than the Valmet. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 19:38, 1 February 2017 (EST)

Talk:Patriots Day

2017-01-30T00:55:00Z

Charon68: /* Colt 933 */

== ARs ==

I haven't seen this yet so am only going by the screenshots, but all of the "LE Carbines" appear to actually have M4 length barrels. Also, I think that the carbines carried by the FBI SWAT might actually be HK416s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:10, 14 January 2017 (EST)

== Colt 933 ==

My question is why would a beat cop have an automatic weapon in his patrol vehicle? I have heard and seen (even here in Canada) cops with Colt LE carbines in their vehicle which is semi-auto only but this? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 08:39, 28 January 2017 (EST)
:I haven't seen the film, but is the gun actually shown being fired in automatic? If not, bear in mind that Colt make the LE6933 which is a semi-only variant of the 933 for LE use. Generally speaking the majority of Colt rifles have a LE/civillian version that is semi-only, we just list them as the military variant (e.g. Model 933, M4A1, M16A4) as there is no way to tell the difference most of the time, they more often than not are intended to portray the military variant, and in a lot of cases the guns will actually be a civilian variant fitted with a full auto lower from a different gun making them indistinguishable from a real full0auto variant. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:30, 28 January 2017 (EST)
::Definitely full-auto. At one point the officer who fires the weapon refers to it as "the machinegun" before grabbing it and going rock and roll with the thing. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 19:55, 29 January 2017 (EST)

Patriots Day

2017-01-28T13:55:31Z

Charon68:

{{upcoming}}

{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Patriots Day
|picture = PatriotsD.jpg
|caption = ''Poster''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|border|25px]] United States
|director = [[Peter Berg]]
|date= 2016
|language =
|studio=
|distributor=Lionsgate
|character1=Tommy Saunders
|actor1=[[Mark Wahlberg]]
|character2= Jeffrey Pugliese
|actor2=[[J.K. Simmons]]
|character3= Richard DesLauriers
|actor3=[[Kevin Bacon]]
|character4=Ed Davis
|actor4=[[John Goodman]]
|character5= Carol Saunders
|actor5=[[Michelle Monaghan]]
}}

'''''Patriots Day''''' is a 2016 crime drama directed by [[Peter Berg]] and follows the events before and after the terrorist bombing of the Boston Marathon in 2013. The film's cast includes [[Mark Wahlberg]], [[J.K. Simmons]], [[John Goodman]], [[Kevin Bacon]] and [[Michelle Monaghan]]. The film also marks the third collaboration between Berg and Wahlberg that was based on real events, following 2013's ''[[Lone Survivor]]'' and 2016's ''Deepwater Horizon''.

{{Film Title}}
__TOC__ 
== Glock 17 ==
The [[Glock 17]] is carried by officers of law enforcement in the film, including Sgt. Tommy Saunders ([[Mark Wahlberg]]) and Sgt. Jeffrey Pugliese ([[J.K. Simmons]]).
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd Generation Glock 17 - 9x19mm. Note the finger grooves, thumb reliefs, and accessory rail on the frame, which differentiate it from the older model.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 211.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Glock 17]] is drawn by Boston PD Sgt. Tommy Saunders ([[Mark Wahlberg]]).]]
[[File:PatriotsD 254.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Saunders with his Glock drawn during the night shootout.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 206.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Glock 17]] is drawn by Watertown PD Sgt. Jeffrey Pugliese ([[J.K. Simmons]]).]]

== Colt Law Enforcement Model 6920 Carbine==
The "[[M16 rifle series#Colt Law Enforcement Carbine|Law Enforcement Carbine]] is used by Boston PD SWAT and FBI HRT Agents.
[[Image:ColtLawEnforcementCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Colt Law Enforcement Carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:PatriotsD 200.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boston PD SWAT officers on patrol armed with their carbines.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FBI SWAT agents with their suppressed carbines.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 251.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boston SWAT officer with his carbine.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 212.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrels of the carbines are visible.]]

==Colt M933==
Some officers are armed with the [[Colt Model 933]].
[[Image:Colt m4 commando 03.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 933 with 4-position stock - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:PatriotsD 260.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The officer fires his carbine during the night shootout.]]
[[File:PatriotsD 255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer with his carbine during the night shootout.]]

==Mossberg 500==
Some officers carry the [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun.
[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Mossberg 500 -12 gauge]]
[[File:PatriotsD 253.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer with his shotgun during the standoff.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5==
At least one Boston SWAT officer has a [[Heckler & Koch MP5|MP5A2]] during the standoff.
[[File:2MP5A2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

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[[Category:Biographical Movie]]

Talk:Patriots Day

2017-01-28T13:44:27Z

Charon68: /* Colt 933 */

Talk:Patriots Day

2017-01-28T13:44:00Z

Charon68: /* Colt 933 */ new section

Talk:Patriots Day

2017-01-28T13:39:59Z

Charon68: /* Colt 933 */ new section

Talk:The Siege of Jadotville

2016-12-10T00:29:46Z

Charon68:

== Walther MPL ==

There appears to be a Walther MPL or similar SMG used by one of the rebels attacking the company. I will upload a screenshot when possible, but the time stamp is at 1:26:59-ish. This would be anachronistic as the MPL was not produced until 1963, while the events in this film took place in 1961. [[User:DeadpoolDeadcool|DeadpoolDeadcool]] ([[User talk:DeadpoolDeadcool|talk]]) 23:24, 15 October 2016 (EDT)

It's a Franchi LF-57 which actually was used by Congo/Katanga --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] ([[User talk:AdAstra2009|talk]]) 04:57, 16 October 2016 (EDT)
:::AdAstra is correct, it's a LF-57. There were also a couple of Vigneron SMGs in this movie.-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 07:34, 16 October 2016 (EDT)

== "A Bren should do it"? ==

Anyone else find it odd the sniper chooses to use an open sight, open bolt Bren instead of his No4 Mk1(T)? --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 09:06, 16 October 2016 (EDT)
:I was thinking the same thing. The two guns are in the same caliber (.303 British), and, if anything, the sights on the Bren are considerably worse than the high-range scope on the Enfield. Does anyone know why this would be done? --[[User:Caldwellb734|Caldwellb734]] ([[User talk:Caldwellb734|talk]]) 14:37, 17 October 2016 (EDT)

If anything, they should actually have started using the MAG 57s. Perhaps the Bren is a heavy gun and is more accurate than the Enfield, even a scoped Enfield isn't that accurate compared to other bolt action rifles of the era. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:43, 17 October 2016 (EDT)

==Use of older rifles==
Also, I am kinda surprised at the surplus of older rifles being used by the Irish despite this being 1961. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:45, 17 October 2016 (EDT)
:Sgt. Prendergast shared your same opinion in the film. Is this company's being issued obsolete firearms historically accurate? --[[User:Caldwellb734|Caldwellb734]] ([[User talk:Caldwellb734|talk]]) 21:20, 17 October 2016 (EDT)
::It's accurate. There are photos on the internet of the Irish forces in the Congo, and the soldiers are indeed using Lee-Enfields, Brens, and Vickers. The Irish did have FN FALs, but only a few had been issued by the time the battle portrayed in the movie occurred.-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 22:05, 17 October 2016 (EDT)

oh yes it is accurate the defense forces still had the bren mark 4 used by the reserve defense forces up until 2008 the fn fal was never abandoned it just got recycled as a designated marksman rifle
--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] ([[User talk:Seekerdude|talk]]) 13:57, 18 October 2016 (EDT)

::I think the only thing about the FALs that bothered me was in several instances, they racked the charging handles to chamber rounds during moments when there should already have been a round chambered, like when Quinlan gave his rifle to Prendergast during a white flag meet. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:16, 19 October 2016 (EDT)
:::One could argue they were checking their brass to make sure the guns were chambered, but it was likely done for dramatic effect. Everybody loves that "Cha-CHK!" --[[User:Caldwellb734|Caldwellb734]] ([[User talk:Caldwellb734|talk]]) 15:22, 19 October 2016 (EDT)
:::It wasn't for brass checking because no one was looking to see brass. It was for dramatic effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:43, 19 October 2016 (EDT)
they included this as it sounded and looked "cool" --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] ([[User talk:Seekerdude|talk]]) 19:32, 19 October 2016 (EDT)

== Quinlan's Sidearm. ==

I believe Quinlan carries a Hi Power as his sidearm. It is seen unholstered a couple times. --[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] ([[User talk:Westernman1987|talk]]) 12:05, 17 October 2016 (EDT)
:I can confirm this, don't have screenshots yet but I did see Quinlan carrying a Hi Power.--[[User:Caldwellb734|Caldwellb734]] ([[User talk:Caldwellb734|talk]]) 14:37, 17 October 2016 (EDT)
::I think one of the mercs used a Hi-Power as well.-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 21:18, 17 October 2016 (EDT)

==FALs==

I am not entirely versed in the history of the FAL in the UK. I know the British uses the semi-auto only L1A1 SLR, but what about the Irish who are literally next door? Did they adopt the full auto FAL or because they are so close to England, adopt the L1A1 as well? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 12:36, 18 October 2016 (EDT)
:As far as I know, Irish Defence Forces adopted Belgian FN FAL 50.00 version in 1961. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 12:51, 18 October 2016 (EDT)
:Not sure how true this is, but had an Irish fellow tell me they tried to limit what they got from the British for the old grudge reason. I honestly wouldn't be suprised if they bypassed the L1A1 and went with the Belgian FALs. Again, pure speculation from one old Irish guy who was not a fan of the English.[[User:Zombiedrd|Zombiedrd]] ([[User talk:Zombiedrd|talk]]) 12:51, 18 October 2016 (EDT)
this is true the irish fn was capable of full auto had an ENERGA anti-tank rifle grenade sight attached to the gas plug which can be seen in some of the film stills--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] ([[User talk:Seekerdude|talk]]) 19:28, 19 October 2016 (EDT)
::My guess is that these rifles are probably actually [https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4a/b3/66/4ab366327dd3839c5488ac609cf93afc.jpg South African R1s]. These rifles have the plastic handguard and wood type C stock which is typical of the R1s, and the R1s were also fitted with the grenade sight gas plug (not the earliest ones though, these ended up being reissued to police). I don't think South Africa used the ENERGA though, they had their own grenade but the sight is the same. This is filmed in South Africa after all, so that is also what would be most available. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:59, 20 October 2016 (EDT)

==Missing Weapons==
A Franchi LF-57, Sten Gun, a couple of Vigneron SMGs, and Mauser rifles are also seen in this movie. Will they be added to the page?-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 15:58, 5 November 2016 (EDT)
:You could do it yourself; editing a page on IMFDB doesn't require black magic.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 16:53, 5 November 2016 (EDT)

==Carl Gustav M/45==
Just read an interesting article about the making of the movie/history behind it and there was a brief mention that the Carl Gustav M/45s used in the movie were found by the film's amourer in storage in South Africa and were period authentic including a claim that one of the weapons matched the serial #s of weapons actually used in the battle. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 19:29, 9 December 2016 (EST)

Talk:The Dark Tower

2016-11-22T23:34:56Z

Charon68: /* Please no */

== Please no ==

THIS IS NOT RIGHT! The guns are wrong, the actor is wrong, everything is wrong! I'm not racist, but Roland isn't supposed to be black. End of rant.

:If you're going to rant on a horrible comic book interpretation, at least try to mark your name.--[[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 16:16, 22 November 2016 (EST)

Chill out, this is one of those adaptations where they don't care what skin color the original character is. I'd be more annoyed if they made Roland a woman to be PC for today's audiences. Idris Elba is an awesome actor. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:52, 22 November 2016 (EST)
::Well said sir. Well said. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 18:34, 22 November 2016 (EST)

Talk:Person of Interest - Season 5

2016-06-02T01:55:44Z

Charon68: /* Please help ID this rifle. */

==Machine gun in "B.S.O.D"==
That machine gun has an unrailed feed cover and standard unrailed handguards so it isn't a Mark 46 Mod 0. My guess would be that it is just an M249, but can't tell if it has the full length or paratrooper barrel. Is it seen without the barrel obscured by the muzzle flash? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:45, 5 May 2016 (EDT)

== Please help ID ==

Please help ID these pistols. The third and forth were supposedly ID'ed as a "Ruger .22". --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 17:08, 19 May 2016 (EDT)
[[File:POIS5E5 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Shotseeker" (S5E05).]]
[[File:POIS5E5 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bruce Moran ([[James LeGros]]) threatens Reese with the pistol in "ShotSeeker" (S5E05). (Not a Makarov)]]
[[File:POIS5E05 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Shotseeker" (S5E05).]]
[[File:POIS5E05 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Shotseeker" (S5E05).]]

:First one looks like a [[Smith & Wesson 5946]]. As for the .22, it is a Ruger but am not sure which one. The barrel looks like a 22/45 Lite, but the frame is a Mark III one. Not sure, but I think they may interchange so it could be a genuine hybrid. Can't really tell for sure with that second one, it is very shiny and from too extreme an angle to make out most of the features. My guess would be that it is a nickel P229, but could be WAY off with that, am mainly going by the step along the slide. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:34, 19 May 2016 (EDT)

== Please help ID (2016 06 01) ==

Please help iD this pistol. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 06:09, 1 June 2016 (EDT)
[[File:POIS5E09 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
: Pretty sure that's a CZ75B (with the safety on), though the hammer looks a tad off (might just be the angle though). Front sight seems to be missing as well. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 15:10, 1 June 2016 (EDT)

::I do not think that it is a real CZ-75B, but a replica or blank firer of some sort. The real CZ-75B introduced a firing pin block which means the slide has a tell-tale pin hole through the middle of the serrations which isn't present on this gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:52, 1 June 2016 (EDT)

== Please help ID this rifle. ==

Please help ID this weapon. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:32, 1 June 2016 (EDT)

[[File:POIS5E10 18.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
- Not entirely sure. In the episode the weapon is broken down with the barrel being screwed into the receiver sans gas tube but this isn't like the DRD Paratus. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:55, 1 June 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Fear the Walking Dead - Season 2

2016-04-21T10:09:07Z

Charon68: /* GSG-5 */ new section

== GSG-5 ==

That isn't an MP5A2. I thought something was a little off so I took a closer look and attached the following screen cap. (Sorry...best I could do). Notice the groove down the center of the mag...that looks like the sort of thing you would see on the GSG MP-5 clones. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 06:09, 21 April 2016 (EDT)
[[File:FTWD 01.jpg|thumb|900px|none|]]

File:FTWD 01.jpg

2016-04-21T10:06:39Z

Charon68: The MP-5 clone from Fear the Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 2.

The MP-5 clone from Fear the Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 2.

Talk:Barb Wire

2016-02-17T02:16:30Z

Charon68:

What is it with Pamela Anderson using a [[Desert Eagle]]? I thought big muscles = big gun, not big boobs = big guns (???) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Wait, that matters? lol [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
:What, you never heard of recoil absorbers? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]
:Go to the website "TVTropes" and look up 'Boobs of Steel.' That should explain a little. [[User:2wingo|2wingo]]

== Xander Berkley ==

It's listed as a Browning Hi-Power, also claimed to be a SIG-Sauer P226.

I believe it's actually a Ruger Pistol, I don't know the exact model.
:: I will look again. Throughout the film it is hard to see since he whips it around from a distance. There aren't any good closeups of his handgun. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:55, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

==Desert Eagle Non-Gun==

[[Image:BW-2ToneDEHeadA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Barb Holds a 2 toned .357 DE Desert Eagle at the head of Krebs ([[Loren Rubin]]) - .357 DE. This pistol changes to an all black model in the very next shot.]]

This one actually looks like a non-gun model. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

:I don't think the Non Guns were around at the time the movie was made. Also, we have pictures of those, and the Desert Eagle Non Gun is quite a bit different. That being said, it is possible that this might be a painted plastic or rubber-cast version of some type, but you'd have to ask Steve to be sure (he built the Eagles used on this movie). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Looks to me like it just has a stainless frame like Bullet Tooth Tony's gun in [[Snatch]]. The stainless frames were available on the Mark I and VII models. There was also an alloy frame available on the Mark VII's too. But the pic does make it seem like it doesn't have a front sight.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

:::I think the tip of the barrel is just behind the guy's head. That being said, I see guns in movies that are missing their sights all the time for some reason (like in ''[[Burn Notice#Jericho 941 "Baby Eagle"|Burn Notice]]'' where the Jericho 941 used by a bad guy is missing its sights). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:50, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

::::Or the actor holding the gun could be like [[Josh Brolin]] and it comes back to the armorer missing pieces and they still have to continue filming! ;) LOL! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I got to ask what you meant by the [[Josh Brolin]] comment. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
It's just a trick of the Camera. The Light is reflecting off his face making it look like the background. The Gun is aimed behind his head.

==AK-47==
The AK in that scene is not a replica but it is a rubber stunt prop. I was just watching it (hey don't judge me) and you can see the barrel is completely blocked. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:16, 16 February 2016 (EST)

Talk:Hyena Road

2016-02-08T15:59:57Z

Charon68:

I think those carbines are actually SFWs based on the barrel profile aren't they? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:23, 8 February 2016 (EST)
:Possible but the troopers are PPCLI, line infantry, and the C8A3 is standard issue for specialist troops in the Canadian military. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 10:59, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Hyena Road

2016-02-08T01:57:15Z

Charon68:

{{Infobox Movie
|name = Hyena Road
|picture =Hyena road poster.jpg
|caption = ''Hyena Road'' theatrical poster
|country = [[Image:CAN.jpg|25px]] Canada
|director = [[Paul Gross]]
|date= 2015
|studio=Triple 7 Films WT Films
|distributor=Elevation Pictures
|character1=Pete Mitchell
|actor1=[[Paul Gross]]
|character2=Ryan Sanders
|actor2=[[Rossif Sutherland]]
|character3=Travis
|actor3=[[Allan Hawco]]
|character4=Ghost
|actor4=Neamat Arghandabi
|character5=Jennifer Bowman
|actor5=Christine Horne
|character6=General Riling
|actor6=[[Clark Johnson]]
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'''''Hyena Road''''' is a 2015 war drama written by, directed and starring [[Paul Gross]] (''[[Passchendaele]]''). Gross stars as Pete Mitchell, a Canadian military intelligence officer who recruits a team of snipers led by Ryan Sanders ([[Rossif Sutherland]]) in an effort to track down a mysterious Afghan fighter known as the Ghost. The film blends real footage shot by Gross in Afghanistan with action footage filmed in Canada and in Jordan.

{{Film Title|Hyena Road}}
__TOC__ 

=Rifles=
==McMillan TAC-50==
Ryan Sanders ([[Rossif Sutherland]]) and Travis ([[Allan Hawco]]) use suppressed [[McMillan Tactical Rifles#McMillan TAC-50|McMillan TAC-50]] sniper rifles during their missions. The TAC-50, known as the C15 in Canadian service, is famous for having made one of the longest kill-shots in history at 2,430 meters (2,657 yd/1.509 miles) while being used in Afghanistan in 2002.

[[Image:Mcmillan-tac50.jpg|thumb|none|400px|McMillan TAC-50 - .50 BMG]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-TAC50-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ryan Sanders ([[Rossif Sutherland]]) aims a McMillan TAC-50.]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-TAC50-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the scope and receiver.]]

==C14 Timberwolf==
Hickey ([[David Richmond-Peck]]) uses a suppressed [[C14 Timberwolf]] when engaging some suspected booby traps early in the film. The [[C14 Timberwolf]] replaced the [[Parker-Hale M-85|C3A1]] formerly in use with the Canadian Armed Forces. The weapon used in this movie has a desert camouflage scheme.
[[File:C14MRSWS.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|C14 Timberwolf]]
[[File:Hyena01.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Hickey aims the C14 at a suspected booby trap.]]
[[File:Hyena03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the C14's receiver showing it's 5 round box mag of .338 Lapua.]]
[[File:Hyena04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hickey preparing for another shot from his C14 Timberwolf.]]

==Colt Canada C7A2==
Pete Mitchell ([[Paul Gross]]) and other Canadian soldiers use [[Diemaco C7/Colt Model 715|Colt Canada C7A2]] rifles.

[[Image:C7a2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Canada C7A2 with ELCAN scope and polymer magazine 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:Hyena road still 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mitchell and other Canadian soldiers hold Colt Canada C7A2 rifles in a production still.]]

==Colt Canada C8A3 Carbine==
Members of Ryan's sniper team are equipped with [[Colt Canada C8 Carbine|Colt Canada C8A3 Carbines]] with suppressors, laser aiming devices and camouflage paint jobs.

[[Image:Colt Canada C8 carbine.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Colt Canada C8A3 carbine 5.56x45mm with ELCAN scope and polymer magazine. Also known as the "C8FTHB" (Flat-Top Heavy Barrel)]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-pstill-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ryan Sanders ([[Rossif Sutherland]]) holds a C8A3 in a production still.]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-C8-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Travis (Allan Hawco) checks his C8A3 carbine.]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-C8-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The sniper team holds C8A3 carbines.]]

==AKM==
Taliban fighters use [[AKM]] rifles to ambush the Canadians.

[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-AKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Taliban fighters fire AKMs.]]

=Machine Guns=
==FN C9A2 Light Machine Gun==
A [[FN Minimi#FN C9 Light Machine Gun|FN C9A2 Light Machine Gun]] is seen mounted on a LAV III APC.

[[Image:101-smallarm-2-c9a2-lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN C9A2 light machine gun with ELCAN scope, AN/PEQ-2 IR designator, and 200-round cloth ammo bag - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-C9A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Canadian soldier mans a C9A2 while on patrol.]]

==FN C6 GPMG==
[[FN MAG|FN C6]] machine guns with spade grips are mounted on the turret of LAV III APCs.

[[Image:FNMAG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN MAG 58 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-LAV3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FN C6 is pintle-mounted on the LAV III. A C9A2 is also visible.]]

==Dillon Aero M134 Minigun==
Real-life footage of Canadian gunners firing [[Dillon Aero M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134D Miniguns]] from Griffon helicopters is used in the film.

[[Image:DAM134DT.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Dillon Aero M134D-H (H stands for Hybrid) combines the titanium and skeletonized parts that were engineered for use in the M134D-T minigun with the steel housing of the previous M134D - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-M134-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134D is fired from a CH-146 Griffon.]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An interior shot.]]

=Other=
==M242 Bushmaster Chaingun==
Canadian LAV III APCs are equipped with 25mm [[M242 Bushmaster chaingun|M242 Bushmaster chain guns]].

[[Image:M242 Cannon.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M242 Bushmaster Chain Gun (Current Model) - 25x137mm]]
[[File:HyenaRoad-LAV3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M242 chain gun, as seen in the LAV III's turret.]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]
[[Category:Drama]]
[[Category:Canadian Produced/Filmed]]

File:Hyena04.jpg

2016-02-08T01:40:34Z

Charon68: A screencap of a C14 Timberwolf from 'Hyena Road'

A screencap of a C14 Timberwolf from '[[Hyena Road]]'

File:Hyena03.jpg

2016-02-08T01:38:08Z

Charon68: Screenshot of the receiver of a C14 Timberwolf from 'Hyena Road'

Screenshot of the receiver of a C14 Timberwolf from '[[Hyena Road]]'

File:Hyena01.jpg

2016-02-08T01:36:36Z

Charon68: Screencap of C14 Timberwolf from 'Hyena Road'.

Screencap of C14 Timberwolf from '[[Hyena Road]]'.

File:Hydra SCAR-L.jpg

2015-12-03T01:52:17Z

Charon68: