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Talk:Snitch

2013-07-05T02:40:34Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* El Topo's training. */ new section

Is there a reason that you weant for a Glock 21 rather than a 17? Also, the slide is a Salient Arms Internatinal, which now that I come to think of it I have only seen for a 19s, 17s and 34s. They may make them for other calibers, but I haven't seen them. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:21, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

:Actually, no. I just immediately thought of that as a Glock 21 since I first saw the film in theaters. The bore size always gets me; when I think a Glock is a G21, my mind always makes the bore bigger than it actually seems. But hey, thanks for noting that out. Oh, and the slide thing? I saw a slide similar to that some time ago, and I heard it was a Glockworx custom work. I've never even heard of the Salient Arms before this day. But... they do have a pic of a compact .40 Glock on their facebook page, so i guess they ventured into other calibers too. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

== The Salient Arms Glock ==

Salient Arms International posted this on their facebook page: [[http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=588558377855540&set=a.492196127491766.133018.201574069887308&type=1&relevant_count=1]]
They're saying that Barry Pepper's Glock is a 21, (though, they admit they were not techical advisors on the film), and that's what I thought too. I'm hoping to get a second opinion on this. I also send them a message about the Glock on their facebook page. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 11:24, 25 June 2013 (EDT)

== El Topo's training. ==

Just a weird little note, because i notice things like this. When repelling the attack from the rival cartel, El Topo, reveals he has some training. He pulls out the M60 and lays down fire, then moves behind his men to a better position, keeping the barrel pointed into the ground as he moves, not covering his men with it as he goes.

Not that important i realize but as later explained, he was Paramilitary. So it seems to make sense, just strange to see that in a movie.

[[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 22:40, 4 July 2013 (EDT)

Talk:The A-Team (2010)

2013-02-16T20:36:41Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* Special Forces OD-A */

== Bradley Cooper: Fully Automatic ==
If you purchase the Unrated Extended Edition on I-tunes it comes with a very cool extra feature about Bradley Cooper really taking well to the M4, and to guns in general. Joe Carnahan is a shooter and gun owner himself, and he seems to really get a kick out of Cooper becoming a shooter. It has a ton of behind the scenes material with the guys training, and it also has an unseen sequence of Cooper reloading and firing the M4 that HEAT fans will enjoy.

== Hannibal 1911 hi res pic ==

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/The-A-Team-movie-image-9.jpg

I just watched the trailer. Is that tank an XM8 Buford? Wow.

:As a note, the M8 AGS was never called the Buford. It's believed to have actually been coined by Tom Clancy in his book ''Armored Cav: A Guided Tour of an Armored Cavalry Regiment'' and picked up on by others. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

A-Team -- B-movie?

''-Implying B-movie is a bad thing.''--[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 15:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

No shit. I mean come on, the trailer shows one of the team shooting down an F-18 with a mounted machine gun on a tank, WHILE THE TANK IS FALLING OUT OF THE GODDAMNED SKY!!! Even kicking your transmission of disbelief into high gear won't help that.[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:Consider the source material. You've got four special forces guys who expend thousands of rounds of ammo and yet manage to not even wound, much less kill, anyone in five years, all while somehow evading arrest while riding around in a VERY distinctive vehicle driven by an even more distinctive driver. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 05:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Well dude if you pay attention to the shows audience, it was a helluva a lot of kids on a friday night, they didn't want it to be to violent, but you have to give them this, of there was a tire to be shot it was shot.
I think the original was more believable cause it was back in the day no satellites and databases no APB's so its probably hard to catch them if they go all around, nowadays the show wouldn't work just to unrealistic.
it looked like a drone not a fighter
Yeah its a drone still stupid

it aspost to be an over the top action movies

It's an MQ-1 Predator which is a UAV. Also the film is Fictitious. Made for peoples enjoyment to get away from the real world by watching something impossible done on film. what's the problem with that.
[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]

also lately in films and tv show they have been showing UAV to by mounted with machine guns when they can only by fitted with missiles and bombs.

REMOVED FROM MAIN PAGE (Regarding Hannibal's 1911):
:It was definitely a Para-Ordnance model .45, you can see it has a wider grip, his mags are double stacked, and the logo is on the right side of the slide. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::And Hannibal obviously uses two different guns as his sidearms; first one in the film's first half, when Hannibal and his Team are still working for the government, and the second during the latter half. Most noticeable is the diffrence between the front slide serrations: the first one has six, and the second one has only three. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::: The Special features on the Blu Ray give it as a "Para-Ordnance P14-45 Limited". Ten in the mag, one in the spout. .45 ACP, semi-auto. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== M4A1 ==

Can anyone post some links or pictures of these rifles used in the Movie?
I am really loving those Olive Foregrips and Stock.

UPDATE: Could the M4A1 actually be this?
[[Image:M6A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|LWRC M6A1, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
:no, this is too expensive. Also note their rifles have step-down on the barrels for nubtube fixation.

::Armorers tend to mostly use what they have in inventory already. They're not going to go out and buy all-new ARs (since all such rifles are so similar). It's more likely that these are just regular M4A1s that have been fitted with the olive furniture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

::And the M203 is ''not'' a "noob tube"... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right, someone's been playing too much MW2 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

The gun is in fact the LWRC M6A1.

: According to the Special features on the Blu Ray they are "Bushmaster XM15-E2S"--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 18:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

About these M4s. I actually saw a picture of the A-Team running away from an explosion, in IMDB, okay and I saw Hannibal's M4 had an EOTech sight on it. And Face's M4 must have been the only one with the Red Dot Sight on it. I didn't want to post the actual picture, due to me fearing copyright, but is it alright if I provide just the link to that picture? [[User:Shoockeye7665|Shoockeye7665]] 12:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Why does it still say tan magpul furniture, looks FG to me. - skyrider

== Hannibal's sidearm ==

No doubt about it: Hannibal's 1911 is in fact a Para-ord. The slide serrations spell it all out on this one. 6 in back - offset under sights - with 3 in front. Looks like a P14 with front cocking serrations milled, or more likely an S14 with night sights. You even see the finish in the movie, and it almost looks like they've just sprayed over the stainless. Regardless, it's a Para. If not one specific, it could just be a mix-master hi-cap. --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I recently saw a production still in a magazine of Hannibal and he had a shoulder holster on with what appeared to carry a 1911 variant possibly a Kimber Custom II.

Any chance at someone identifing the brand/type of shoulder holster that Hannibal uses? [[Spades of Columbia]]

Just saw the movie last night; Hannibal's 1911 is most certainly not a Kimber of any sort. Slide serrations are way off, so who knows. Almost looked like a custom slide from Caspian, but still wouldn't bet on it.

As for the leather shoulder rig, it looked a lot like a DeSantis.

To me the 1911 looks like a Para p-14 or some sort of variant, take a look at one of the promo pics where you can see it in the shoulder holster. Looks like a double-stack grip to me, but maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.

:I just saw this movie, and I agree that it's not a Kimber Warrior (lacks the Picatinny rail). My guess is Colt XSE. It's also likely that it was a custom 1911 assembled by the movie's armorers; the slide could be Colt, frame could be something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

No it's defiantly a Kimber possibly a Custom some don't have rails. Confirmed by the films armorer the same guy who confirmed Face's Glock as a 17 standard finish.

::I need to see that evidence before you change it back (link please). And if it's not a Warrior, then don't put down that it is. It's better to say "Unknown 1911" if we don't know the exact model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 11:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

:: If I can find it I will post the link but I watched as a special on Sleuth or FX I forget.

It seems that Hannible uses multiply 1911's through out the movie...but it looked as if the 1911 that Lynch said was Hannibles personal weapon that he attempted to frame hannible with at the end of the movie was a Nighthawk GRP or even the enforcer model. But pretty sure he didn't use the same 1911 the whole time. [[Spades of Columbia]]

::The gun was heavily ruined to make it look more used by a Veteran. When Hannibal pulled a gun on Baracus I had seen a large logo (that not seen a trademark) on the right side of the slide near the front grooves (Can anyone confirm?). It is possible that this logo is of the Rangers, as was done with the logo of SEAL TEAM 4 on the Augustus Gibbons Colt XSE in [[XXX 2: State of the Union#Colt XSE M1911|XXX 2]]. [[User: Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

it could be a Nickel Plated Nighthawk FLX. these are fairly new guns, but as stated on the page. are double stacked.

[[Image:FLX 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nighthawk FLX - .45 ACP]]

I'd say thats probably a very accurate guess. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Good lookin piece but the front grip serrations are all kinds of diffrent.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 12:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

It can't be a double stack/para. In that last picture you see more than 3 serrations in the front and you can even imagine a single stack mag at the bottom. Also you can see in the grip/right above the trigger area that it is flat. Double stack guns have it widen for the wide magazine.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/para1.jpg
look straight above the magazine catch
EDIT: Actually after rewatching, it is probably both and it is just switched throughout the movie- skyrider

Yeah, thats what i was saying. Hannible uses more then one 1911 in this movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 16:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I love Nighthawk 1911's - and I would like to see one in a movie - but his 1911 doesn't run a 2011 frame.--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

its a shame. ud think with games like MW2 or Medal of Honor that has Elite units ud think theyd have Multiple Nighthawk variants. Delta Force uses them thanks to larry Vickers.

would the guns firing pin be removed or replanted so easily?

It would be that easy if his gun is based on a series 70...but if his gun had a firing pin safety then no you couldn't do what he did as easy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 10:48, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

:Are there 1911's with firing pin safeties? :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:54, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
::Yes the Series 80 Colt's, Para, Kimber, a few others as well. Those without, Springfield for example use a titanium firing pin with a heavy spring to pass the drop test.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:07, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

I was wondering if we should seperate the obvious single stack 1911 thats seen briefly at the beginning of the movie? I notice that its noted to be a different gun, and i know its SUPPOSED to be standing in for the Para, but its obviously not, should we move it out from the Para entry or at the very least, note that its a stand in, not just say its the same gun but caption it different. -MissySummers-

== Not a lot of new guns ==

I am a bit disappointed that they didn't have a wide variety of weapons used int his movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:I was a little more disappointed by the dialogue, the way in which the action scenes were directed, and the excessive cheese throughout. And I tend to think that kind of stuff matters a little more than the variety of weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I saw a guy with an Uzi at the bank, and I'm sure the Sig 552 isn't. It has a ful rail on top.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:I don't think it was a 556; the receiver didn't look like it (mostly around the magazine well). Also, they make continuous rails for the 552. I think it's more likely that they just took a 552, removed the stock, and gave it the upper rail, though I could be wrong. We'll see when the Blu Ray becomes available. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

:I thought it was a 552 the first time. After viewing again I'm pretty sure it was the 556 pistol, it seemed to be using STANAG magazines. And for posterity, I enjoyed the stupid dialog and oozing cheese. C'mon its the A Team its not gonna be oscar worthy, its gonna be guns, explosions, stupidity and deus ex machina. =P [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] 15:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:: The first thing that came to mind when I saw Pike carrying the "552" was (strangely enough) a KAC PDW or a Robinson XCR... though I admit I never paid that much attention to what he was using. :S (BTW, I also enjoyed it for it's over-the-top cheesiness. It's exactly what I was expecting out of an A-team movie.)*EDIT* just saw the movie again with my GF... when Pike first gets out of the car at the beginning of the scene I could clearly tell it was a Sig 552. No full-top rail, no forward vertical grip that I could see. Later the gun looks like it may have switched. This may be either an editing or continuity error.

It looks just like the Sig 556 pistol...[[Spades of Columbia]]

:Somebody added some new pictures:

:[[Image:A-TEAM_PIKE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:That is definitely a SIG 552 with the stock removed. Handguards, magwell, sights, etc. are totally wrong for a 556. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

you are correct...the front gas adjustment is a 552 design and not even close the 556.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

stock hasnt been removed its just folded to the left side of the gun. handy little touch that makes it a more concealable package, i do think they change the doctor sight though. [[User:fenris357|fenris357]]

:Actually, the stock on all SIG 550-series rifles folds to the right, not the left. His gun is clearly missing the stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Mini 14 ==
Hannibal was firing full auto, wouldn't that make it an AC-556? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

He may have just been firing quickly, like they did in the original TV show.

In the picture we have, it looks like a Ruger Mini 14 stainless with a factory ruger folding stock. Look at the front sight. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

He was using a stainless semi-auto with the older front blade sight, and a factory folding stock. I didn't notice what I'd call full auto firing, just rapid fire semi-auto. I believe the pic on the main page is in fact an AC-556, and not representative of the one used in the film. The one in the film did NOT have the birdcage flash-hider or the mid-barrel mounted front sight. For reference, it was this gun: http://www.armco-guns.com/Mini%2014%20folder%20%202.JPG --[[User:Rugerlvr|Rugerlvr]] 00:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

:If he was firing semi-auto, then he had an impossibly fast trigger finger. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

The sound editing could have made it sound full auto. I'll need to watch the movie again [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

: I'm with Spartan, I'm pretty sure he was firing full-auto. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 19:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Its definatly still a semi, he fires fairly fast, but its about one round per bad guy and is definatly not full auto --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I just watch the movie last night; it's definitely semi. -SasquatchJim

== Nice Little Things ==

There were a few small things in this movie that made me smile, things you don't see in most movies, like when Pike was in the car and they were gonna shoot him, and the CIA guys were failing with the Beretta, and one called it a silencer and he muttered something about it being a suppressor. And I also noticed for once the Armorer was in the credits, as "Armorer/Firearms", and for the most part all the fights and reloading and such were very good, there were only a couple little things that seemed a ''little'' off, but it was almost perfect :)

Pike may have been a traitorous fink, but at least he wasn't stupid. Why is the CIA always inept, despite being super-evil? They can listen to your phone conversations half a world away but ''still'' can't pull of their evil schemes. 2 things I didn't like about the embassy scene: One, the CIA just walks through security. I was so wishing a dozen marines with M16s would stop them, and 2: the extradition order. If Sosa was a bright as she usually was, she would have maid sure it wasn't a fake. I wouldn't put it past the oh-so-evil CIA to do that.

== Mk 19 ==

wasnt there one at the end of the film?

When? I remember an M2, but no Mk19.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

near the end, at the docks, where lynch is up on that crane. I could have sworn there was a Mk 19 sitting next to him.

== Frankfurt am Main skyscrapers ==

You can replace the "Koeniggs Bank" in the last section (where Baracus fires the M203 launcher) with "Königsbank". I am not sure if the "ö" causes problems with the code of this website, but you may give it a try. --Paul_Baeumer [[Special:Contributions/84.181.224.167|84.181.224.167]] 18:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikes SIG ==

Im sure pike was using a 228 not a 226 as it looked compact and for some reason i couted off his rounds he fired before reloading. 13, same mag cap as the 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

:Nope, it was a 226. I saw the squared trigger guard myself. I also own a 226 and know SIGs pretty well, so I am pretty confident about this. Also, counting the rounds fired is a bad way to figure out the type of gun used; we all know movies never show reloading, making it look like actors fire hundreds of rounds from 30-shot mags. Same principle applies here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, I just streamed that scene and you are right its definatly too long to be a 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

What is on the rail of pikes Sig SG 552? it doesnt look like a sight.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

== PX4 Compact ==

Is it just me, or does the Compact PX4 look HUGE in Jessica Biels' hands? I was looking at the [[Live Free or Die Hard]] page and it looks about the same size when it's in Bruce Willis' hands. Maybe he just has large hands.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:She's a woman. Of course she has smaller hands than Bruce Willis. I don't know very many women who have big hands. Every time I ever go to ranges, I notice that women there have trouble properly gripping most guns because their hands are so smaller than those of their boyfriends/husbands. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks bigger than the px4. But it might just be that it is Berettas Px4 Storm Sub-Compact pistol. It's not suppost to be released untill 2011 they may have put it in the movie to per-mote the guns release. Here is a link goths gun.
http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-type-f-sub-compact/

:While it's possible that Beretta may have provided Px4 Sub-Compacts as a promotional deal with the producers, the guns in the movie look to me like Compacts, not Sub-Compacts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

::We need to get some continuity because the page text says compact, but the pictures are of the subcompact.

==Face==

Ok a few things Face. Firstly on the bagdad mission face is carrying two side arms, what looks like a walther p99 on the left of his chest and a second (possibly his glock) on his thigh. On a seperaate not did anyone else think it was odd that he only had 4 rounds in his glock at the showdown at the docks? (Which he uses to shoot free the cables). Even if you include the 2 shots at the frankfurt station that makes for 6 total, why would you not take at least a full mag? That said I thought he was very proficent at weapons handling. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 20:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

He's too busy chasing around Jessica Biel to worry about loading his gun.
:I find I can't fault him for that ;) Seriously though are you sure the slide locks back during the fight at the docks? I didn't notice myself, but is it possible the gun had a double feed, causing the slide to partially lock? If not it's probably just a goof, like they took multiple takes of that shot and didn't bother reloading the mag between takes.

It seems to be similar to in Shooter where there were only 4 rounds in the Beretta.

It was a Taurus, sign your posts.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.
What do you mean, exactly? Like, put my name after it? 'Cause I'm not a member or anything.

Face has his Glock on his thigh holster in Bagdad. Im not 100% sure its a P99 on his vest, cant find a good picture of it and dont own the film yet, but it definately does look like one.

Is in fact a P99 on his vest. You get a good shot of it when they let B.A out of the container.

[[Image:Ateam-M4-prod-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Bradley Cooper]] as Face and [[Liam Neeson]] as Hannibal with M4A1 carbines in a production still. Glock in thigh holster. Possibly a P99 on left side of his vest.]]

Face still carries his Glock on his thigh in addition to the p99 on his vest in baghdad, whoever re did the page needs to re do the glock entry to represent this - Captain Snikt--[[Special:Contributions/86.148.97.195|86.148.97.195]] 01:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this really needs to be changed --[[Special:Contributions/86.150.213.139|86.150.213.139]] 01:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Remington 870 ==

Is that a Remington 870? I don't know if it just the angle of the pic but somehow the receiver looks a little different as does the mag tube. As a side note btw they actually do refer to the tank in the C-130 as a "Buford". --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 10:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I have the Blu-Ray (which is already out here in Finland, and in several other European countries) and I did some screencapping. I will finish the page and tidy it up tomorrow. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::'''Since we are a U.S. Based site, DO NOT upload anything until after the December 2010 release date. I am SERIOUS. ''' We have no way of verifying pre-release in ANY OTHER COUNTRY. (for example)(and unfortunately for our Asian members) we don't trust ANY pre release titles from Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia or China. With Europe, again we have no way of verifying this. This MAY be released in Finland, But of course I wonder why a major motion picture would be released in FINLAND before the U.S.? Regardless, you cannot upload images prior to the official release date. Since we can only verify the Studio's official DVD release date, IMFDB will stick to that. Sorry. Just stating that it is released in your country, sadly, in the past, has meant nothing, and it offers no legal protection for us if the member is mistaken and the images are indeed from a BOOTLEG of some sort. Thanks for your cooperation. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Movie will be out on Video Dec.11,2010 ==

So please do not put up any screenshots that aren't from the trailers or clips.

--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Special Forces OD-A ==

Random note but in the description for this page it is said that 'The A-Team' is a Ranger team which isn't true. Yes they are all Ranger's but they are actually a U.S. Army Special Forces OD-A team. And no it's not because they are called 'The A-Team', it's because of the mission types they take on and the fact that when they are at trial you can see their Special Forces pin's along with the Special Forces Insignia on their arm's. They could possibly be 1st SFOD-D, but that would depend on what color their beret's are and since I'm colorblind I can't tell. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:57, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Really doubt they are Delta. It's been a good while since I've seen the movie, but I don't recall seeing a red and black USASOC patch on their uniforms. Highly likely they are U.S. Army SF. And someone probably thought they were Rangers because they all had a Ranger tattoo. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 19:28, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Anything's possible and I figured that was why someone labeled them as a Ranger team. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:04, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

Isnt it true that, even if they were Green Berets or Unit operators that theyd still wear the Ranger tabs? As i recall, they have 7th Special Forces flashing on their berets. [[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 19:19, 15 February 2013 (EST)

:Correct. On U.S. Army uniforms you are allowed up to three skill tabs on the shoulder. So even Delta operators wearing the Class A Uniform for offical photos will still have any tabs earned shown (IE - Special Forces, Ranger & Airborne. Also known as the Triple Canopy). See here - http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.194566190608695.46212.194560650609249&type=3 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:52, 16 February 2013 (EST)

::I believe their beret's were black with a red flashing symbolizing the 7th Special Forces Group. Doesnt that mean that they're not Rangers or even Special Forces? Rangers used to wear the Black Beret, but that was changed in 2001, and of course Green Beret's wear green berets. So, yes its a movie, but, what group would the belong to?

::EDIT: Just happened to see the movie on TV today! During their trial, they're wearing green berets with red flashings from the 7th, as well their shoulder patches are from Special Forces. [[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 15:36, 16 February 2013 (EST)

== Pike's Sig sight ==

What kind of sight is on Pike's rifle. Is it even a real sight?--Gunner5
:It's real all right. Not sure the exact type bu 5 minutes on Cheaper Than Dirt shows these:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/6-0930343
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-BU300236
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/3-0930626

Talk:The A-Team (2010)

2013-02-16T20:35:53Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* Special Forces OD-A */

== Bradley Cooper: Fully Automatic ==
If you purchase the Unrated Extended Edition on I-tunes it comes with a very cool extra feature about Bradley Cooper really taking well to the M4, and to guns in general. Joe Carnahan is a shooter and gun owner himself, and he seems to really get a kick out of Cooper becoming a shooter. It has a ton of behind the scenes material with the guys training, and it also has an unseen sequence of Cooper reloading and firing the M4 that HEAT fans will enjoy.

== Hannibal 1911 hi res pic ==

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/The-A-Team-movie-image-9.jpg

I just watched the trailer. Is that tank an XM8 Buford? Wow.

:As a note, the M8 AGS was never called the Buford. It's believed to have actually been coined by Tom Clancy in his book ''Armored Cav: A Guided Tour of an Armored Cavalry Regiment'' and picked up on by others. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

A-Team -- B-movie?

''-Implying B-movie is a bad thing.''--[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 15:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

No shit. I mean come on, the trailer shows one of the team shooting down an F-18 with a mounted machine gun on a tank, WHILE THE TANK IS FALLING OUT OF THE GODDAMNED SKY!!! Even kicking your transmission of disbelief into high gear won't help that.[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:Consider the source material. You've got four special forces guys who expend thousands of rounds of ammo and yet manage to not even wound, much less kill, anyone in five years, all while somehow evading arrest while riding around in a VERY distinctive vehicle driven by an even more distinctive driver. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 05:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Well dude if you pay attention to the shows audience, it was a helluva a lot of kids on a friday night, they didn't want it to be to violent, but you have to give them this, of there was a tire to be shot it was shot.
I think the original was more believable cause it was back in the day no satellites and databases no APB's so its probably hard to catch them if they go all around, nowadays the show wouldn't work just to unrealistic.
it looked like a drone not a fighter
Yeah its a drone still stupid

it aspost to be an over the top action movies

It's an MQ-1 Predator which is a UAV. Also the film is Fictitious. Made for peoples enjoyment to get away from the real world by watching something impossible done on film. what's the problem with that.
[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]

also lately in films and tv show they have been showing UAV to by mounted with machine guns when they can only by fitted with missiles and bombs.

REMOVED FROM MAIN PAGE (Regarding Hannibal's 1911):
:It was definitely a Para-Ordnance model .45, you can see it has a wider grip, his mags are double stacked, and the logo is on the right side of the slide. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::And Hannibal obviously uses two different guns as his sidearms; first one in the film's first half, when Hannibal and his Team are still working for the government, and the second during the latter half. Most noticeable is the diffrence between the front slide serrations: the first one has six, and the second one has only three. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::: The Special features on the Blu Ray give it as a "Para-Ordnance P14-45 Limited". Ten in the mag, one in the spout. .45 ACP, semi-auto. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== M4A1 ==

Can anyone post some links or pictures of these rifles used in the Movie?
I am really loving those Olive Foregrips and Stock.

UPDATE: Could the M4A1 actually be this?
[[Image:M6A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|LWRC M6A1, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
:no, this is too expensive. Also note their rifles have step-down on the barrels for nubtube fixation.

::Armorers tend to mostly use what they have in inventory already. They're not going to go out and buy all-new ARs (since all such rifles are so similar). It's more likely that these are just regular M4A1s that have been fitted with the olive furniture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

::And the M203 is ''not'' a "noob tube"... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right, someone's been playing too much MW2 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

The gun is in fact the LWRC M6A1.

: According to the Special features on the Blu Ray they are "Bushmaster XM15-E2S"--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 18:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

About these M4s. I actually saw a picture of the A-Team running away from an explosion, in IMDB, okay and I saw Hannibal's M4 had an EOTech sight on it. And Face's M4 must have been the only one with the Red Dot Sight on it. I didn't want to post the actual picture, due to me fearing copyright, but is it alright if I provide just the link to that picture? [[User:Shoockeye7665|Shoockeye7665]] 12:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Why does it still say tan magpul furniture, looks FG to me. - skyrider

== Hannibal's sidearm ==

No doubt about it: Hannibal's 1911 is in fact a Para-ord. The slide serrations spell it all out on this one. 6 in back - offset under sights - with 3 in front. Looks like a P14 with front cocking serrations milled, or more likely an S14 with night sights. You even see the finish in the movie, and it almost looks like they've just sprayed over the stainless. Regardless, it's a Para. If not one specific, it could just be a mix-master hi-cap. --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I recently saw a production still in a magazine of Hannibal and he had a shoulder holster on with what appeared to carry a 1911 variant possibly a Kimber Custom II.

Any chance at someone identifing the brand/type of shoulder holster that Hannibal uses? [[Spades of Columbia]]

Just saw the movie last night; Hannibal's 1911 is most certainly not a Kimber of any sort. Slide serrations are way off, so who knows. Almost looked like a custom slide from Caspian, but still wouldn't bet on it.

As for the leather shoulder rig, it looked a lot like a DeSantis.

To me the 1911 looks like a Para p-14 or some sort of variant, take a look at one of the promo pics where you can see it in the shoulder holster. Looks like a double-stack grip to me, but maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.

:I just saw this movie, and I agree that it's not a Kimber Warrior (lacks the Picatinny rail). My guess is Colt XSE. It's also likely that it was a custom 1911 assembled by the movie's armorers; the slide could be Colt, frame could be something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

No it's defiantly a Kimber possibly a Custom some don't have rails. Confirmed by the films armorer the same guy who confirmed Face's Glock as a 17 standard finish.

::I need to see that evidence before you change it back (link please). And if it's not a Warrior, then don't put down that it is. It's better to say "Unknown 1911" if we don't know the exact model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 11:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

:: If I can find it I will post the link but I watched as a special on Sleuth or FX I forget.

It seems that Hannible uses multiply 1911's through out the movie...but it looked as if the 1911 that Lynch said was Hannibles personal weapon that he attempted to frame hannible with at the end of the movie was a Nighthawk GRP or even the enforcer model. But pretty sure he didn't use the same 1911 the whole time. [[Spades of Columbia]]

::The gun was heavily ruined to make it look more used by a Veteran. When Hannibal pulled a gun on Baracus I had seen a large logo (that not seen a trademark) on the right side of the slide near the front grooves (Can anyone confirm?). It is possible that this logo is of the Rangers, as was done with the logo of SEAL TEAM 4 on the Augustus Gibbons Colt XSE in [[XXX 2: State of the Union#Colt XSE M1911|XXX 2]]. [[User: Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

it could be a Nickel Plated Nighthawk FLX. these are fairly new guns, but as stated on the page. are double stacked.

[[Image:FLX 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nighthawk FLX - .45 ACP]]

I'd say thats probably a very accurate guess. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Good lookin piece but the front grip serrations are all kinds of diffrent.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 12:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

It can't be a double stack/para. In that last picture you see more than 3 serrations in the front and you can even imagine a single stack mag at the bottom. Also you can see in the grip/right above the trigger area that it is flat. Double stack guns have it widen for the wide magazine.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/para1.jpg
look straight above the magazine catch
EDIT: Actually after rewatching, it is probably both and it is just switched throughout the movie- skyrider

Yeah, thats what i was saying. Hannible uses more then one 1911 in this movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 16:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I love Nighthawk 1911's - and I would like to see one in a movie - but his 1911 doesn't run a 2011 frame.--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

its a shame. ud think with games like MW2 or Medal of Honor that has Elite units ud think theyd have Multiple Nighthawk variants. Delta Force uses them thanks to larry Vickers.

would the guns firing pin be removed or replanted so easily?

It would be that easy if his gun is based on a series 70...but if his gun had a firing pin safety then no you couldn't do what he did as easy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 10:48, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

:Are there 1911's with firing pin safeties? :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:54, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
::Yes the Series 80 Colt's, Para, Kimber, a few others as well. Those without, Springfield for example use a titanium firing pin with a heavy spring to pass the drop test.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:07, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

I was wondering if we should seperate the obvious single stack 1911 thats seen briefly at the beginning of the movie? I notice that its noted to be a different gun, and i know its SUPPOSED to be standing in for the Para, but its obviously not, should we move it out from the Para entry or at the very least, note that its a stand in, not just say its the same gun but caption it different. -MissySummers-

== Not a lot of new guns ==

I am a bit disappointed that they didn't have a wide variety of weapons used int his movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:I was a little more disappointed by the dialogue, the way in which the action scenes were directed, and the excessive cheese throughout. And I tend to think that kind of stuff matters a little more than the variety of weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I saw a guy with an Uzi at the bank, and I'm sure the Sig 552 isn't. It has a ful rail on top.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:I don't think it was a 556; the receiver didn't look like it (mostly around the magazine well). Also, they make continuous rails for the 552. I think it's more likely that they just took a 552, removed the stock, and gave it the upper rail, though I could be wrong. We'll see when the Blu Ray becomes available. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

:I thought it was a 552 the first time. After viewing again I'm pretty sure it was the 556 pistol, it seemed to be using STANAG magazines. And for posterity, I enjoyed the stupid dialog and oozing cheese. C'mon its the A Team its not gonna be oscar worthy, its gonna be guns, explosions, stupidity and deus ex machina. =P [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] 15:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:: The first thing that came to mind when I saw Pike carrying the "552" was (strangely enough) a KAC PDW or a Robinson XCR... though I admit I never paid that much attention to what he was using. :S (BTW, I also enjoyed it for it's over-the-top cheesiness. It's exactly what I was expecting out of an A-team movie.)*EDIT* just saw the movie again with my GF... when Pike first gets out of the car at the beginning of the scene I could clearly tell it was a Sig 552. No full-top rail, no forward vertical grip that I could see. Later the gun looks like it may have switched. This may be either an editing or continuity error.

It looks just like the Sig 556 pistol...[[Spades of Columbia]]

:Somebody added some new pictures:

:[[Image:A-TEAM_PIKE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:That is definitely a SIG 552 with the stock removed. Handguards, magwell, sights, etc. are totally wrong for a 556. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

you are correct...the front gas adjustment is a 552 design and not even close the 556.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

stock hasnt been removed its just folded to the left side of the gun. handy little touch that makes it a more concealable package, i do think they change the doctor sight though. [[User:fenris357|fenris357]]

:Actually, the stock on all SIG 550-series rifles folds to the right, not the left. His gun is clearly missing the stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Mini 14 ==
Hannibal was firing full auto, wouldn't that make it an AC-556? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

He may have just been firing quickly, like they did in the original TV show.

In the picture we have, it looks like a Ruger Mini 14 stainless with a factory ruger folding stock. Look at the front sight. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

He was using a stainless semi-auto with the older front blade sight, and a factory folding stock. I didn't notice what I'd call full auto firing, just rapid fire semi-auto. I believe the pic on the main page is in fact an AC-556, and not representative of the one used in the film. The one in the film did NOT have the birdcage flash-hider or the mid-barrel mounted front sight. For reference, it was this gun: http://www.armco-guns.com/Mini%2014%20folder%20%202.JPG --[[User:Rugerlvr|Rugerlvr]] 00:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

:If he was firing semi-auto, then he had an impossibly fast trigger finger. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

The sound editing could have made it sound full auto. I'll need to watch the movie again [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

: I'm with Spartan, I'm pretty sure he was firing full-auto. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 19:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Its definatly still a semi, he fires fairly fast, but its about one round per bad guy and is definatly not full auto --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I just watch the movie last night; it's definitely semi. -SasquatchJim

== Nice Little Things ==

There were a few small things in this movie that made me smile, things you don't see in most movies, like when Pike was in the car and they were gonna shoot him, and the CIA guys were failing with the Beretta, and one called it a silencer and he muttered something about it being a suppressor. And I also noticed for once the Armorer was in the credits, as "Armorer/Firearms", and for the most part all the fights and reloading and such were very good, there were only a couple little things that seemed a ''little'' off, but it was almost perfect :)

Pike may have been a traitorous fink, but at least he wasn't stupid. Why is the CIA always inept, despite being super-evil? They can listen to your phone conversations half a world away but ''still'' can't pull of their evil schemes. 2 things I didn't like about the embassy scene: One, the CIA just walks through security. I was so wishing a dozen marines with M16s would stop them, and 2: the extradition order. If Sosa was a bright as she usually was, she would have maid sure it wasn't a fake. I wouldn't put it past the oh-so-evil CIA to do that.

== Mk 19 ==

wasnt there one at the end of the film?

When? I remember an M2, but no Mk19.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

near the end, at the docks, where lynch is up on that crane. I could have sworn there was a Mk 19 sitting next to him.

== Frankfurt am Main skyscrapers ==

You can replace the "Koeniggs Bank" in the last section (where Baracus fires the M203 launcher) with "Königsbank". I am not sure if the "ö" causes problems with the code of this website, but you may give it a try. --Paul_Baeumer [[Special:Contributions/84.181.224.167|84.181.224.167]] 18:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikes SIG ==

Im sure pike was using a 228 not a 226 as it looked compact and for some reason i couted off his rounds he fired before reloading. 13, same mag cap as the 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

:Nope, it was a 226. I saw the squared trigger guard myself. I also own a 226 and know SIGs pretty well, so I am pretty confident about this. Also, counting the rounds fired is a bad way to figure out the type of gun used; we all know movies never show reloading, making it look like actors fire hundreds of rounds from 30-shot mags. Same principle applies here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, I just streamed that scene and you are right its definatly too long to be a 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

What is on the rail of pikes Sig SG 552? it doesnt look like a sight.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

== PX4 Compact ==

Is it just me, or does the Compact PX4 look HUGE in Jessica Biels' hands? I was looking at the [[Live Free or Die Hard]] page and it looks about the same size when it's in Bruce Willis' hands. Maybe he just has large hands.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:She's a woman. Of course she has smaller hands than Bruce Willis. I don't know very many women who have big hands. Every time I ever go to ranges, I notice that women there have trouble properly gripping most guns because their hands are so smaller than those of their boyfriends/husbands. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks bigger than the px4. But it might just be that it is Berettas Px4 Storm Sub-Compact pistol. It's not suppost to be released untill 2011 they may have put it in the movie to per-mote the guns release. Here is a link goths gun.
http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-type-f-sub-compact/

:While it's possible that Beretta may have provided Px4 Sub-Compacts as a promotional deal with the producers, the guns in the movie look to me like Compacts, not Sub-Compacts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

::We need to get some continuity because the page text says compact, but the pictures are of the subcompact.

==Face==

Ok a few things Face. Firstly on the bagdad mission face is carrying two side arms, what looks like a walther p99 on the left of his chest and a second (possibly his glock) on his thigh. On a seperaate not did anyone else think it was odd that he only had 4 rounds in his glock at the showdown at the docks? (Which he uses to shoot free the cables). Even if you include the 2 shots at the frankfurt station that makes for 6 total, why would you not take at least a full mag? That said I thought he was very proficent at weapons handling. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 20:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

He's too busy chasing around Jessica Biel to worry about loading his gun.
:I find I can't fault him for that ;) Seriously though are you sure the slide locks back during the fight at the docks? I didn't notice myself, but is it possible the gun had a double feed, causing the slide to partially lock? If not it's probably just a goof, like they took multiple takes of that shot and didn't bother reloading the mag between takes.

It seems to be similar to in Shooter where there were only 4 rounds in the Beretta.

It was a Taurus, sign your posts.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.
What do you mean, exactly? Like, put my name after it? 'Cause I'm not a member or anything.

Face has his Glock on his thigh holster in Bagdad. Im not 100% sure its a P99 on his vest, cant find a good picture of it and dont own the film yet, but it definately does look like one.

Is in fact a P99 on his vest. You get a good shot of it when they let B.A out of the container.

[[Image:Ateam-M4-prod-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Bradley Cooper]] as Face and [[Liam Neeson]] as Hannibal with M4A1 carbines in a production still. Glock in thigh holster. Possibly a P99 on left side of his vest.]]

Face still carries his Glock on his thigh in addition to the p99 on his vest in baghdad, whoever re did the page needs to re do the glock entry to represent this - Captain Snikt--[[Special:Contributions/86.148.97.195|86.148.97.195]] 01:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this really needs to be changed --[[Special:Contributions/86.150.213.139|86.150.213.139]] 01:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Remington 870 ==

Is that a Remington 870? I don't know if it just the angle of the pic but somehow the receiver looks a little different as does the mag tube. As a side note btw they actually do refer to the tank in the C-130 as a "Buford". --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 10:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I have the Blu-Ray (which is already out here in Finland, and in several other European countries) and I did some screencapping. I will finish the page and tidy it up tomorrow. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::'''Since we are a U.S. Based site, DO NOT upload anything until after the December 2010 release date. I am SERIOUS. ''' We have no way of verifying pre-release in ANY OTHER COUNTRY. (for example)(and unfortunately for our Asian members) we don't trust ANY pre release titles from Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia or China. With Europe, again we have no way of verifying this. This MAY be released in Finland, But of course I wonder why a major motion picture would be released in FINLAND before the U.S.? Regardless, you cannot upload images prior to the official release date. Since we can only verify the Studio's official DVD release date, IMFDB will stick to that. Sorry. Just stating that it is released in your country, sadly, in the past, has meant nothing, and it offers no legal protection for us if the member is mistaken and the images are indeed from a BOOTLEG of some sort. Thanks for your cooperation. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Movie will be out on Video Dec.11,2010 ==

So please do not put up any screenshots that aren't from the trailers or clips.

--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Special Forces OD-A ==

Random note but in the description for this page it is said that 'The A-Team' is a Ranger team which isn't true. Yes they are all Ranger's but they are actually a U.S. Army Special Forces OD-A team. And no it's not because they are called 'The A-Team', it's because of the mission types they take on and the fact that when they are at trial you can see their Special Forces pin's along with the Special Forces Insignia on their arm's. They could possibly be 1st SFOD-D, but that would depend on what color their beret's are and since I'm colorblind I can't tell. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:57, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Really doubt they are Delta. It's been a good while since I've seen the movie, but I don't recall seeing a red and black USASOC patch on their uniforms. Highly likely they are U.S. Army SF. And someone probably thought they were Rangers because they all had a Ranger tattoo. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 19:28, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Anything's possible and I figured that was why someone labeled them as a Ranger team. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:04, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

Isnt it true that, even if they were Green Berets or Unit operators that theyd still wear the Ranger tabs? As i recall, they have 7th Special Forces flashing on their berets. [[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 19:19, 15 February 2013 (EST)

:Correct. On U.S. Army uniforms you are allowed up to three skill tabs on the shoulder. So even Delta operators wearing the Class A Uniform for offical photos will still have any tabs earned shown (IE - Special Forces, Ranger & Airborne. Also known as the Triple Canopy). See here - http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.194566190608695.46212.194560650609249&type=3 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:52, 16 February 2013 (EST)

::I believe their beret's were black with a red flashing symbolizing the 7th Special Forces Group. Doesnt that mean that they're not Rangers or even Special Forces? Rangers used to wear the Black Beret, but that was changed in 2001, and of course Green Beret's wear green berets. So, yes its a movie, but, what group would the belong to? EDIT: Just happened to see the movie on TV today! During their trial, they're wearing green berets with red flashings from the 7th, as well their shoulder patches are from Special Forces.

== Pike's Sig sight ==

What kind of sight is on Pike's rifle. Is it even a real sight?--Gunner5
:It's real all right. Not sure the exact type bu 5 minutes on Cheaper Than Dirt shows these:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/6-0930343
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-BU300236
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/3-0930626

Talk:The A-Team (2010)

2013-02-16T18:35:40Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* Special Forces OD-A */

== Bradley Cooper: Fully Automatic ==
If you purchase the Unrated Extended Edition on I-tunes it comes with a very cool extra feature about Bradley Cooper really taking well to the M4, and to guns in general. Joe Carnahan is a shooter and gun owner himself, and he seems to really get a kick out of Cooper becoming a shooter. It has a ton of behind the scenes material with the guys training, and it also has an unseen sequence of Cooper reloading and firing the M4 that HEAT fans will enjoy.

== Hannibal 1911 hi res pic ==

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/The-A-Team-movie-image-9.jpg

I just watched the trailer. Is that tank an XM8 Buford? Wow.

:As a note, the M8 AGS was never called the Buford. It's believed to have actually been coined by Tom Clancy in his book ''Armored Cav: A Guided Tour of an Armored Cavalry Regiment'' and picked up on by others. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

A-Team -- B-movie?

''-Implying B-movie is a bad thing.''--[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 15:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

No shit. I mean come on, the trailer shows one of the team shooting down an F-18 with a mounted machine gun on a tank, WHILE THE TANK IS FALLING OUT OF THE GODDAMNED SKY!!! Even kicking your transmission of disbelief into high gear won't help that.[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:Consider the source material. You've got four special forces guys who expend thousands of rounds of ammo and yet manage to not even wound, much less kill, anyone in five years, all while somehow evading arrest while riding around in a VERY distinctive vehicle driven by an even more distinctive driver. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 05:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Well dude if you pay attention to the shows audience, it was a helluva a lot of kids on a friday night, they didn't want it to be to violent, but you have to give them this, of there was a tire to be shot it was shot.
I think the original was more believable cause it was back in the day no satellites and databases no APB's so its probably hard to catch them if they go all around, nowadays the show wouldn't work just to unrealistic.
it looked like a drone not a fighter
Yeah its a drone still stupid

it aspost to be an over the top action movies

It's an MQ-1 Predator which is a UAV. Also the film is Fictitious. Made for peoples enjoyment to get away from the real world by watching something impossible done on film. what's the problem with that.
[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]

also lately in films and tv show they have been showing UAV to by mounted with machine guns when they can only by fitted with missiles and bombs.

REMOVED FROM MAIN PAGE (Regarding Hannibal's 1911):
:It was definitely a Para-Ordnance model .45, you can see it has a wider grip, his mags are double stacked, and the logo is on the right side of the slide. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::And Hannibal obviously uses two different guns as his sidearms; first one in the film's first half, when Hannibal and his Team are still working for the government, and the second during the latter half. Most noticeable is the diffrence between the front slide serrations: the first one has six, and the second one has only three. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::: The Special features on the Blu Ray give it as a "Para-Ordnance P14-45 Limited". Ten in the mag, one in the spout. .45 ACP, semi-auto. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== M4A1 ==

Can anyone post some links or pictures of these rifles used in the Movie?
I am really loving those Olive Foregrips and Stock.

UPDATE: Could the M4A1 actually be this?
[[Image:M6A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|LWRC M6A1, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
:no, this is too expensive. Also note their rifles have step-down on the barrels for nubtube fixation.

::Armorers tend to mostly use what they have in inventory already. They're not going to go out and buy all-new ARs (since all such rifles are so similar). It's more likely that these are just regular M4A1s that have been fitted with the olive furniture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

::And the M203 is ''not'' a "noob tube"... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right, someone's been playing too much MW2 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

The gun is in fact the LWRC M6A1.

: According to the Special features on the Blu Ray they are "Bushmaster XM15-E2S"--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 18:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

About these M4s. I actually saw a picture of the A-Team running away from an explosion, in IMDB, okay and I saw Hannibal's M4 had an EOTech sight on it. And Face's M4 must have been the only one with the Red Dot Sight on it. I didn't want to post the actual picture, due to me fearing copyright, but is it alright if I provide just the link to that picture? [[User:Shoockeye7665|Shoockeye7665]] 12:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Why does it still say tan magpul furniture, looks FG to me. - skyrider

== Hannibal's sidearm ==

No doubt about it: Hannibal's 1911 is in fact a Para-ord. The slide serrations spell it all out on this one. 6 in back - offset under sights - with 3 in front. Looks like a P14 with front cocking serrations milled, or more likely an S14 with night sights. You even see the finish in the movie, and it almost looks like they've just sprayed over the stainless. Regardless, it's a Para. If not one specific, it could just be a mix-master hi-cap. --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I recently saw a production still in a magazine of Hannibal and he had a shoulder holster on with what appeared to carry a 1911 variant possibly a Kimber Custom II.

Any chance at someone identifing the brand/type of shoulder holster that Hannibal uses? [[Spades of Columbia]]

Just saw the movie last night; Hannibal's 1911 is most certainly not a Kimber of any sort. Slide serrations are way off, so who knows. Almost looked like a custom slide from Caspian, but still wouldn't bet on it.

As for the leather shoulder rig, it looked a lot like a DeSantis.

To me the 1911 looks like a Para p-14 or some sort of variant, take a look at one of the promo pics where you can see it in the shoulder holster. Looks like a double-stack grip to me, but maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.

:I just saw this movie, and I agree that it's not a Kimber Warrior (lacks the Picatinny rail). My guess is Colt XSE. It's also likely that it was a custom 1911 assembled by the movie's armorers; the slide could be Colt, frame could be something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

No it's defiantly a Kimber possibly a Custom some don't have rails. Confirmed by the films armorer the same guy who confirmed Face's Glock as a 17 standard finish.

::I need to see that evidence before you change it back (link please). And if it's not a Warrior, then don't put down that it is. It's better to say "Unknown 1911" if we don't know the exact model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 11:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

:: If I can find it I will post the link but I watched as a special on Sleuth or FX I forget.

It seems that Hannible uses multiply 1911's through out the movie...but it looked as if the 1911 that Lynch said was Hannibles personal weapon that he attempted to frame hannible with at the end of the movie was a Nighthawk GRP or even the enforcer model. But pretty sure he didn't use the same 1911 the whole time. [[Spades of Columbia]]

::The gun was heavily ruined to make it look more used by a Veteran. When Hannibal pulled a gun on Baracus I had seen a large logo (that not seen a trademark) on the right side of the slide near the front grooves (Can anyone confirm?). It is possible that this logo is of the Rangers, as was done with the logo of SEAL TEAM 4 on the Augustus Gibbons Colt XSE in [[XXX 2: State of the Union#Colt XSE M1911|XXX 2]]. [[User: Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

it could be a Nickel Plated Nighthawk FLX. these are fairly new guns, but as stated on the page. are double stacked.

[[Image:FLX 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nighthawk FLX - .45 ACP]]

I'd say thats probably a very accurate guess. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Good lookin piece but the front grip serrations are all kinds of diffrent.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 12:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

It can't be a double stack/para. In that last picture you see more than 3 serrations in the front and you can even imagine a single stack mag at the bottom. Also you can see in the grip/right above the trigger area that it is flat. Double stack guns have it widen for the wide magazine.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/para1.jpg
look straight above the magazine catch
EDIT: Actually after rewatching, it is probably both and it is just switched throughout the movie- skyrider

Yeah, thats what i was saying. Hannible uses more then one 1911 in this movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 16:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I love Nighthawk 1911's - and I would like to see one in a movie - but his 1911 doesn't run a 2011 frame.--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

its a shame. ud think with games like MW2 or Medal of Honor that has Elite units ud think theyd have Multiple Nighthawk variants. Delta Force uses them thanks to larry Vickers.

would the guns firing pin be removed or replanted so easily?

It would be that easy if his gun is based on a series 70...but if his gun had a firing pin safety then no you couldn't do what he did as easy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 10:48, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

:Are there 1911's with firing pin safeties? :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:54, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
::Yes the Series 80 Colt's, Para, Kimber, a few others as well. Those without, Springfield for example use a titanium firing pin with a heavy spring to pass the drop test.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:07, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

I was wondering if we should seperate the obvious single stack 1911 thats seen briefly at the beginning of the movie? I notice that its noted to be a different gun, and i know its SUPPOSED to be standing in for the Para, but its obviously not, should we move it out from the Para entry or at the very least, note that its a stand in, not just say its the same gun but caption it different. -MissySummers-

== Not a lot of new guns ==

I am a bit disappointed that they didn't have a wide variety of weapons used int his movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:I was a little more disappointed by the dialogue, the way in which the action scenes were directed, and the excessive cheese throughout. And I tend to think that kind of stuff matters a little more than the variety of weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I saw a guy with an Uzi at the bank, and I'm sure the Sig 552 isn't. It has a ful rail on top.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:I don't think it was a 556; the receiver didn't look like it (mostly around the magazine well). Also, they make continuous rails for the 552. I think it's more likely that they just took a 552, removed the stock, and gave it the upper rail, though I could be wrong. We'll see when the Blu Ray becomes available. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

:I thought it was a 552 the first time. After viewing again I'm pretty sure it was the 556 pistol, it seemed to be using STANAG magazines. And for posterity, I enjoyed the stupid dialog and oozing cheese. C'mon its the A Team its not gonna be oscar worthy, its gonna be guns, explosions, stupidity and deus ex machina. =P [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] 15:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:: The first thing that came to mind when I saw Pike carrying the "552" was (strangely enough) a KAC PDW or a Robinson XCR... though I admit I never paid that much attention to what he was using. :S (BTW, I also enjoyed it for it's over-the-top cheesiness. It's exactly what I was expecting out of an A-team movie.)*EDIT* just saw the movie again with my GF... when Pike first gets out of the car at the beginning of the scene I could clearly tell it was a Sig 552. No full-top rail, no forward vertical grip that I could see. Later the gun looks like it may have switched. This may be either an editing or continuity error.

It looks just like the Sig 556 pistol...[[Spades of Columbia]]

:Somebody added some new pictures:

:[[Image:A-TEAM_PIKE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:That is definitely a SIG 552 with the stock removed. Handguards, magwell, sights, etc. are totally wrong for a 556. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

you are correct...the front gas adjustment is a 552 design and not even close the 556.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

stock hasnt been removed its just folded to the left side of the gun. handy little touch that makes it a more concealable package, i do think they change the doctor sight though. [[User:fenris357|fenris357]]

:Actually, the stock on all SIG 550-series rifles folds to the right, not the left. His gun is clearly missing the stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Mini 14 ==
Hannibal was firing full auto, wouldn't that make it an AC-556? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

He may have just been firing quickly, like they did in the original TV show.

In the picture we have, it looks like a Ruger Mini 14 stainless with a factory ruger folding stock. Look at the front sight. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

He was using a stainless semi-auto with the older front blade sight, and a factory folding stock. I didn't notice what I'd call full auto firing, just rapid fire semi-auto. I believe the pic on the main page is in fact an AC-556, and not representative of the one used in the film. The one in the film did NOT have the birdcage flash-hider or the mid-barrel mounted front sight. For reference, it was this gun: http://www.armco-guns.com/Mini%2014%20folder%20%202.JPG --[[User:Rugerlvr|Rugerlvr]] 00:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

:If he was firing semi-auto, then he had an impossibly fast trigger finger. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

The sound editing could have made it sound full auto. I'll need to watch the movie again [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

: I'm with Spartan, I'm pretty sure he was firing full-auto. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 19:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Its definatly still a semi, he fires fairly fast, but its about one round per bad guy and is definatly not full auto --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I just watch the movie last night; it's definitely semi. -SasquatchJim

== Nice Little Things ==

There were a few small things in this movie that made me smile, things you don't see in most movies, like when Pike was in the car and they were gonna shoot him, and the CIA guys were failing with the Beretta, and one called it a silencer and he muttered something about it being a suppressor. And I also noticed for once the Armorer was in the credits, as "Armorer/Firearms", and for the most part all the fights and reloading and such were very good, there were only a couple little things that seemed a ''little'' off, but it was almost perfect :)

Pike may have been a traitorous fink, but at least he wasn't stupid. Why is the CIA always inept, despite being super-evil? They can listen to your phone conversations half a world away but ''still'' can't pull of their evil schemes. 2 things I didn't like about the embassy scene: One, the CIA just walks through security. I was so wishing a dozen marines with M16s would stop them, and 2: the extradition order. If Sosa was a bright as she usually was, she would have maid sure it wasn't a fake. I wouldn't put it past the oh-so-evil CIA to do that.

== Mk 19 ==

wasnt there one at the end of the film?

When? I remember an M2, but no Mk19.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

near the end, at the docks, where lynch is up on that crane. I could have sworn there was a Mk 19 sitting next to him.

== Frankfurt am Main skyscrapers ==

You can replace the "Koeniggs Bank" in the last section (where Baracus fires the M203 launcher) with "Königsbank". I am not sure if the "ö" causes problems with the code of this website, but you may give it a try. --Paul_Baeumer [[Special:Contributions/84.181.224.167|84.181.224.167]] 18:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikes SIG ==

Im sure pike was using a 228 not a 226 as it looked compact and for some reason i couted off his rounds he fired before reloading. 13, same mag cap as the 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

:Nope, it was a 226. I saw the squared trigger guard myself. I also own a 226 and know SIGs pretty well, so I am pretty confident about this. Also, counting the rounds fired is a bad way to figure out the type of gun used; we all know movies never show reloading, making it look like actors fire hundreds of rounds from 30-shot mags. Same principle applies here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, I just streamed that scene and you are right its definatly too long to be a 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

What is on the rail of pikes Sig SG 552? it doesnt look like a sight.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

== PX4 Compact ==

Is it just me, or does the Compact PX4 look HUGE in Jessica Biels' hands? I was looking at the [[Live Free or Die Hard]] page and it looks about the same size when it's in Bruce Willis' hands. Maybe he just has large hands.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:She's a woman. Of course she has smaller hands than Bruce Willis. I don't know very many women who have big hands. Every time I ever go to ranges, I notice that women there have trouble properly gripping most guns because their hands are so smaller than those of their boyfriends/husbands. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks bigger than the px4. But it might just be that it is Berettas Px4 Storm Sub-Compact pistol. It's not suppost to be released untill 2011 they may have put it in the movie to per-mote the guns release. Here is a link goths gun.
http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-type-f-sub-compact/

:While it's possible that Beretta may have provided Px4 Sub-Compacts as a promotional deal with the producers, the guns in the movie look to me like Compacts, not Sub-Compacts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

::We need to get some continuity because the page text says compact, but the pictures are of the subcompact.

==Face==

Ok a few things Face. Firstly on the bagdad mission face is carrying two side arms, what looks like a walther p99 on the left of his chest and a second (possibly his glock) on his thigh. On a seperaate not did anyone else think it was odd that he only had 4 rounds in his glock at the showdown at the docks? (Which he uses to shoot free the cables). Even if you include the 2 shots at the frankfurt station that makes for 6 total, why would you not take at least a full mag? That said I thought he was very proficent at weapons handling. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 20:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

He's too busy chasing around Jessica Biel to worry about loading his gun.
:I find I can't fault him for that ;) Seriously though are you sure the slide locks back during the fight at the docks? I didn't notice myself, but is it possible the gun had a double feed, causing the slide to partially lock? If not it's probably just a goof, like they took multiple takes of that shot and didn't bother reloading the mag between takes.

It seems to be similar to in Shooter where there were only 4 rounds in the Beretta.

It was a Taurus, sign your posts.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.
What do you mean, exactly? Like, put my name after it? 'Cause I'm not a member or anything.

Face has his Glock on his thigh holster in Bagdad. Im not 100% sure its a P99 on his vest, cant find a good picture of it and dont own the film yet, but it definately does look like one.

Is in fact a P99 on his vest. You get a good shot of it when they let B.A out of the container.

[[Image:Ateam-M4-prod-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Bradley Cooper]] as Face and [[Liam Neeson]] as Hannibal with M4A1 carbines in a production still. Glock in thigh holster. Possibly a P99 on left side of his vest.]]

Face still carries his Glock on his thigh in addition to the p99 on his vest in baghdad, whoever re did the page needs to re do the glock entry to represent this - Captain Snikt--[[Special:Contributions/86.148.97.195|86.148.97.195]] 01:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this really needs to be changed --[[Special:Contributions/86.150.213.139|86.150.213.139]] 01:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Remington 870 ==

Is that a Remington 870? I don't know if it just the angle of the pic but somehow the receiver looks a little different as does the mag tube. As a side note btw they actually do refer to the tank in the C-130 as a "Buford". --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 10:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I have the Blu-Ray (which is already out here in Finland, and in several other European countries) and I did some screencapping. I will finish the page and tidy it up tomorrow. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::'''Since we are a U.S. Based site, DO NOT upload anything until after the December 2010 release date. I am SERIOUS. ''' We have no way of verifying pre-release in ANY OTHER COUNTRY. (for example)(and unfortunately for our Asian members) we don't trust ANY pre release titles from Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia or China. With Europe, again we have no way of verifying this. This MAY be released in Finland, But of course I wonder why a major motion picture would be released in FINLAND before the U.S.? Regardless, you cannot upload images prior to the official release date. Since we can only verify the Studio's official DVD release date, IMFDB will stick to that. Sorry. Just stating that it is released in your country, sadly, in the past, has meant nothing, and it offers no legal protection for us if the member is mistaken and the images are indeed from a BOOTLEG of some sort. Thanks for your cooperation. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Movie will be out on Video Dec.11,2010 ==

So please do not put up any screenshots that aren't from the trailers or clips.

--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Special Forces OD-A ==

Random note but in the description for this page it is said that 'The A-Team' is a Ranger team which isn't true. Yes they are all Ranger's but they are actually a U.S. Army Special Forces OD-A team. And no it's not because they are called 'The A-Team', it's because of the mission types they take on and the fact that when they are at trial you can see their Special Forces pin's along with the Special Forces Insignia on their arm's. They could possibly be 1st SFOD-D, but that would depend on what color their beret's are and since I'm colorblind I can't tell. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:57, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Really doubt they are Delta. It's been a good while since I've seen the movie, but I don't recall seeing a red and black USASOC patch on their uniforms. Highly likely they are U.S. Army SF. And someone probably thought they were Rangers because they all had a Ranger tattoo. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 19:28, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Anything's possible and I figured that was why someone labeled them as a Ranger team. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:04, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

Isnt it true that, even if they were Green Berets or Unit operators that theyd still wear the Ranger tabs? As i recall, they have 7th Special Forces flashing on their berets. [[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 19:19, 15 February 2013 (EST)

:Correct. On U.S. Army uniforms you are allowed up to three skill tabs on the shoulder. So even Delta operators wearing the Class A Uniform for offical photos will still have any tabs earned shown (IE - Special Forces, Ranger & Airborne. Also known as the Triple Canopy). See here - http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.194566190608695.46212.194560650609249&type=3 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:52, 16 February 2013 (EST)

::I believe their beret's were black with a red flashing symbolizing the 7th Special Forces Group. Doesnt that mean that they're not Rangers or even Special Forces? Rangers used to wear the Black Beret, but that was changed in 2001, and of course Green Beret's wear green berets. So, yes its a movie, but, what group would the belong to?

== Pike's Sig sight ==

What kind of sight is on Pike's rifle. Is it even a real sight?--Gunner5
:It's real all right. Not sure the exact type bu 5 minutes on Cheaper Than Dirt shows these:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/6-0930343
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-BU300236
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/3-0930626

Talk:The A-Team (2010)

2013-02-16T00:20:35Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* Special Forces OD-A */

== Bradley Cooper: Fully Automatic ==
If you purchase the Unrated Extended Edition on I-tunes it comes with a very cool extra feature about Bradley Cooper really taking well to the M4, and to guns in general. Joe Carnahan is a shooter and gun owner himself, and he seems to really get a kick out of Cooper becoming a shooter. It has a ton of behind the scenes material with the guys training, and it also has an unseen sequence of Cooper reloading and firing the M4 that HEAT fans will enjoy.

== Hannibal 1911 hi res pic ==

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/The-A-Team-movie-image-9.jpg

I just watched the trailer. Is that tank an XM8 Buford? Wow.

:As a note, the M8 AGS was never called the Buford. It's believed to have actually been coined by Tom Clancy in his book ''Armored Cav: A Guided Tour of an Armored Cavalry Regiment'' and picked up on by others. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

A-Team -- B-movie?

''-Implying B-movie is a bad thing.''--[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 15:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

No shit. I mean come on, the trailer shows one of the team shooting down an F-18 with a mounted machine gun on a tank, WHILE THE TANK IS FALLING OUT OF THE GODDAMNED SKY!!! Even kicking your transmission of disbelief into high gear won't help that.[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:Consider the source material. You've got four special forces guys who expend thousands of rounds of ammo and yet manage to not even wound, much less kill, anyone in five years, all while somehow evading arrest while riding around in a VERY distinctive vehicle driven by an even more distinctive driver. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 05:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Well dude if you pay attention to the shows audience, it was a helluva a lot of kids on a friday night, they didn't want it to be to violent, but you have to give them this, of there was a tire to be shot it was shot.
I think the original was more believable cause it was back in the day no satellites and databases no APB's so its probably hard to catch them if they go all around, nowadays the show wouldn't work just to unrealistic.
it looked like a drone not a fighter
Yeah its a drone still stupid

it aspost to be an over the top action movies

It's an MQ-1 Predator which is a UAV. Also the film is Fictitious. Made for peoples enjoyment to get away from the real world by watching something impossible done on film. what's the problem with that.
[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]

also lately in films and tv show they have been showing UAV to by mounted with machine guns when they can only by fitted with missiles and bombs.

REMOVED FROM MAIN PAGE (Regarding Hannibal's 1911):
:It was definitely a Para-Ordnance model .45, you can see it has a wider grip, his mags are double stacked, and the logo is on the right side of the slide. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::And Hannibal obviously uses two different guns as his sidearms; first one in the film's first half, when Hannibal and his Team are still working for the government, and the second during the latter half. Most noticeable is the diffrence between the front slide serrations: the first one has six, and the second one has only three. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::: The Special features on the Blu Ray give it as a "Para-Ordnance P14-45 Limited". Ten in the mag, one in the spout. .45 ACP, semi-auto. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== M4A1 ==

Can anyone post some links or pictures of these rifles used in the Movie?
I am really loving those Olive Foregrips and Stock.

UPDATE: Could the M4A1 actually be this?
[[Image:M6A1.jpg|thumb|right|500px|LWRC M6A1, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
:no, this is too expensive. Also note their rifles have step-down on the barrels for nubtube fixation.

::Armorers tend to mostly use what they have in inventory already. They're not going to go out and buy all-new ARs (since all such rifles are so similar). It's more likely that these are just regular M4A1s that have been fitted with the olive furniture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

::And the M203 is ''not'' a "noob tube"... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right, someone's been playing too much MW2 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

The gun is in fact the LWRC M6A1.

: According to the Special features on the Blu Ray they are "Bushmaster XM15-E2S"--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 18:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

About these M4s. I actually saw a picture of the A-Team running away from an explosion, in IMDB, okay and I saw Hannibal's M4 had an EOTech sight on it. And Face's M4 must have been the only one with the Red Dot Sight on it. I didn't want to post the actual picture, due to me fearing copyright, but is it alright if I provide just the link to that picture? [[User:Shoockeye7665|Shoockeye7665]] 12:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Why does it still say tan magpul furniture, looks FG to me. - skyrider

== Hannibal's sidearm ==

No doubt about it: Hannibal's 1911 is in fact a Para-ord. The slide serrations spell it all out on this one. 6 in back - offset under sights - with 3 in front. Looks like a P14 with front cocking serrations milled, or more likely an S14 with night sights. You even see the finish in the movie, and it almost looks like they've just sprayed over the stainless. Regardless, it's a Para. If not one specific, it could just be a mix-master hi-cap. --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I recently saw a production still in a magazine of Hannibal and he had a shoulder holster on with what appeared to carry a 1911 variant possibly a Kimber Custom II.

Any chance at someone identifing the brand/type of shoulder holster that Hannibal uses? [[Spades of Columbia]]

Just saw the movie last night; Hannibal's 1911 is most certainly not a Kimber of any sort. Slide serrations are way off, so who knows. Almost looked like a custom slide from Caspian, but still wouldn't bet on it.

As for the leather shoulder rig, it looked a lot like a DeSantis.

To me the 1911 looks like a Para p-14 or some sort of variant, take a look at one of the promo pics where you can see it in the shoulder holster. Looks like a double-stack grip to me, but maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.

:I just saw this movie, and I agree that it's not a Kimber Warrior (lacks the Picatinny rail). My guess is Colt XSE. It's also likely that it was a custom 1911 assembled by the movie's armorers; the slide could be Colt, frame could be something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

No it's defiantly a Kimber possibly a Custom some don't have rails. Confirmed by the films armorer the same guy who confirmed Face's Glock as a 17 standard finish.

::I need to see that evidence before you change it back (link please). And if it's not a Warrior, then don't put down that it is. It's better to say "Unknown 1911" if we don't know the exact model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 11:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

:: If I can find it I will post the link but I watched as a special on Sleuth or FX I forget.

It seems that Hannible uses multiply 1911's through out the movie...but it looked as if the 1911 that Lynch said was Hannibles personal weapon that he attempted to frame hannible with at the end of the movie was a Nighthawk GRP or even the enforcer model. But pretty sure he didn't use the same 1911 the whole time. [[Spades of Columbia]]

::The gun was heavily ruined to make it look more used by a Veteran. When Hannibal pulled a gun on Baracus I had seen a large logo (that not seen a trademark) on the right side of the slide near the front grooves (Can anyone confirm?). It is possible that this logo is of the Rangers, as was done with the logo of SEAL TEAM 4 on the Augustus Gibbons Colt XSE in [[XXX 2: State of the Union#Colt XSE M1911|XXX 2]]. [[User: Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

it could be a Nickel Plated Nighthawk FLX. these are fairly new guns, but as stated on the page. are double stacked.

[[Image:FLX 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nighthawk FLX - .45 ACP]]

I'd say thats probably a very accurate guess. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Good lookin piece but the front grip serrations are all kinds of diffrent.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 12:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

It can't be a double stack/para. In that last picture you see more than 3 serrations in the front and you can even imagine a single stack mag at the bottom. Also you can see in the grip/right above the trigger area that it is flat. Double stack guns have it widen for the wide magazine.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/para1.jpg
look straight above the magazine catch
EDIT: Actually after rewatching, it is probably both and it is just switched throughout the movie- skyrider

Yeah, thats what i was saying. Hannible uses more then one 1911 in this movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 16:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I love Nighthawk 1911's - and I would like to see one in a movie - but his 1911 doesn't run a 2011 frame.--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

its a shame. ud think with games like MW2 or Medal of Honor that has Elite units ud think theyd have Multiple Nighthawk variants. Delta Force uses them thanks to larry Vickers.

would the guns firing pin be removed or replanted so easily?

It would be that easy if his gun is based on a series 70...but if his gun had a firing pin safety then no you couldn't do what he did as easy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 10:48, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

:Are there 1911's with firing pin safeties? :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:54, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
::Yes the Series 80 Colt's, Para, Kimber, a few others as well. Those without, Springfield for example use a titanium firing pin with a heavy spring to pass the drop test.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:07, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

I was wondering if we should seperate the obvious single stack 1911 thats seen briefly at the beginning of the movie? I notice that its noted to be a different gun, and i know its SUPPOSED to be standing in for the Para, but its obviously not, should we move it out from the Para entry or at the very least, note that its a stand in, not just say its the same gun but caption it different. -MissySummers-

== Not a lot of new guns ==

I am a bit disappointed that they didn't have a wide variety of weapons used int his movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:I was a little more disappointed by the dialogue, the way in which the action scenes were directed, and the excessive cheese throughout. And I tend to think that kind of stuff matters a little more than the variety of weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I saw a guy with an Uzi at the bank, and I'm sure the Sig 552 isn't. It has a ful rail on top.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:I don't think it was a 556; the receiver didn't look like it (mostly around the magazine well). Also, they make continuous rails for the 552. I think it's more likely that they just took a 552, removed the stock, and gave it the upper rail, though I could be wrong. We'll see when the Blu Ray becomes available. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

:I thought it was a 552 the first time. After viewing again I'm pretty sure it was the 556 pistol, it seemed to be using STANAG magazines. And for posterity, I enjoyed the stupid dialog and oozing cheese. C'mon its the A Team its not gonna be oscar worthy, its gonna be guns, explosions, stupidity and deus ex machina. =P [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] 15:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:: The first thing that came to mind when I saw Pike carrying the "552" was (strangely enough) a KAC PDW or a Robinson XCR... though I admit I never paid that much attention to what he was using. :S (BTW, I also enjoyed it for it's over-the-top cheesiness. It's exactly what I was expecting out of an A-team movie.)*EDIT* just saw the movie again with my GF... when Pike first gets out of the car at the beginning of the scene I could clearly tell it was a Sig 552. No full-top rail, no forward vertical grip that I could see. Later the gun looks like it may have switched. This may be either an editing or continuity error.

It looks just like the Sig 556 pistol...[[Spades of Columbia]]

:Somebody added some new pictures:

:[[Image:A-TEAM_PIKE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:That is definitely a SIG 552 with the stock removed. Handguards, magwell, sights, etc. are totally wrong for a 556. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

you are correct...the front gas adjustment is a 552 design and not even close the 556.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

stock hasnt been removed its just folded to the left side of the gun. handy little touch that makes it a more concealable package, i do think they change the doctor sight though. [[User:fenris357|fenris357]]

:Actually, the stock on all SIG 550-series rifles folds to the right, not the left. His gun is clearly missing the stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Mini 14 ==
Hannibal was firing full auto, wouldn't that make it an AC-556? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

He may have just been firing quickly, like they did in the original TV show.

In the picture we have, it looks like a Ruger Mini 14 stainless with a factory ruger folding stock. Look at the front sight. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

He was using a stainless semi-auto with the older front blade sight, and a factory folding stock. I didn't notice what I'd call full auto firing, just rapid fire semi-auto. I believe the pic on the main page is in fact an AC-556, and not representative of the one used in the film. The one in the film did NOT have the birdcage flash-hider or the mid-barrel mounted front sight. For reference, it was this gun: http://www.armco-guns.com/Mini%2014%20folder%20%202.JPG --[[User:Rugerlvr|Rugerlvr]] 00:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

:If he was firing semi-auto, then he had an impossibly fast trigger finger. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

The sound editing could have made it sound full auto. I'll need to watch the movie again [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

: I'm with Spartan, I'm pretty sure he was firing full-auto. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 19:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Its definatly still a semi, he fires fairly fast, but its about one round per bad guy and is definatly not full auto --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I just watch the movie last night; it's definitely semi. -SasquatchJim

== Nice Little Things ==

There were a few small things in this movie that made me smile, things you don't see in most movies, like when Pike was in the car and they were gonna shoot him, and the CIA guys were failing with the Beretta, and one called it a silencer and he muttered something about it being a suppressor. And I also noticed for once the Armorer was in the credits, as "Armorer/Firearms", and for the most part all the fights and reloading and such were very good, there were only a couple little things that seemed a ''little'' off, but it was almost perfect :)

Pike may have been a traitorous fink, but at least he wasn't stupid. Why is the CIA always inept, despite being super-evil? They can listen to your phone conversations half a world away but ''still'' can't pull of their evil schemes. 2 things I didn't like about the embassy scene: One, the CIA just walks through security. I was so wishing a dozen marines with M16s would stop them, and 2: the extradition order. If Sosa was a bright as she usually was, she would have maid sure it wasn't a fake. I wouldn't put it past the oh-so-evil CIA to do that.

== Mk 19 ==

wasnt there one at the end of the film?

When? I remember an M2, but no Mk19.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

near the end, at the docks, where lynch is up on that crane. I could have sworn there was a Mk 19 sitting next to him.

== Frankfurt am Main skyscrapers ==

You can replace the "Koeniggs Bank" in the last section (where Baracus fires the M203 launcher) with "Königsbank". I am not sure if the "ö" causes problems with the code of this website, but you may give it a try. --Paul_Baeumer [[Special:Contributions/84.181.224.167|84.181.224.167]] 18:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikes SIG ==

Im sure pike was using a 228 not a 226 as it looked compact and for some reason i couted off his rounds he fired before reloading. 13, same mag cap as the 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

:Nope, it was a 226. I saw the squared trigger guard myself. I also own a 226 and know SIGs pretty well, so I am pretty confident about this. Also, counting the rounds fired is a bad way to figure out the type of gun used; we all know movies never show reloading, making it look like actors fire hundreds of rounds from 30-shot mags. Same principle applies here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, I just streamed that scene and you are right its definatly too long to be a 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

What is on the rail of pikes Sig SG 552? it doesnt look like a sight.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

== PX4 Compact ==

Is it just me, or does the Compact PX4 look HUGE in Jessica Biels' hands? I was looking at the [[Live Free or Die Hard]] page and it looks about the same size when it's in Bruce Willis' hands. Maybe he just has large hands.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:She's a woman. Of course she has smaller hands than Bruce Willis. I don't know very many women who have big hands. Every time I ever go to ranges, I notice that women there have trouble properly gripping most guns because their hands are so smaller than those of their boyfriends/husbands. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks bigger than the px4. But it might just be that it is Berettas Px4 Storm Sub-Compact pistol. It's not suppost to be released untill 2011 they may have put it in the movie to per-mote the guns release. Here is a link goths gun.
http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-type-f-sub-compact/

:While it's possible that Beretta may have provided Px4 Sub-Compacts as a promotional deal with the producers, the guns in the movie look to me like Compacts, not Sub-Compacts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

::We need to get some continuity because the page text says compact, but the pictures are of the subcompact.

==Face==

Ok a few things Face. Firstly on the bagdad mission face is carrying two side arms, what looks like a walther p99 on the left of his chest and a second (possibly his glock) on his thigh. On a seperaate not did anyone else think it was odd that he only had 4 rounds in his glock at the showdown at the docks? (Which he uses to shoot free the cables). Even if you include the 2 shots at the frankfurt station that makes for 6 total, why would you not take at least a full mag? That said I thought he was very proficent at weapons handling. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 20:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

He's too busy chasing around Jessica Biel to worry about loading his gun.
:I find I can't fault him for that ;) Seriously though are you sure the slide locks back during the fight at the docks? I didn't notice myself, but is it possible the gun had a double feed, causing the slide to partially lock? If not it's probably just a goof, like they took multiple takes of that shot and didn't bother reloading the mag between takes.

It seems to be similar to in Shooter where there were only 4 rounds in the Beretta.

It was a Taurus, sign your posts.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.
What do you mean, exactly? Like, put my name after it? 'Cause I'm not a member or anything.

Face has his Glock on his thigh holster in Bagdad. Im not 100% sure its a P99 on his vest, cant find a good picture of it and dont own the film yet, but it definately does look like one.

Is in fact a P99 on his vest. You get a good shot of it when they let B.A out of the container.

[[Image:Ateam-M4-prod-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Bradley Cooper]] as Face and [[Liam Neeson]] as Hannibal with M4A1 carbines in a production still. Glock in thigh holster. Possibly a P99 on left side of his vest.]]

Face still carries his Glock on his thigh in addition to the p99 on his vest in baghdad, whoever re did the page needs to re do the glock entry to represent this - Captain Snikt--[[Special:Contributions/86.148.97.195|86.148.97.195]] 01:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this really needs to be changed --[[Special:Contributions/86.150.213.139|86.150.213.139]] 01:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Remington 870 ==

Is that a Remington 870? I don't know if it just the angle of the pic but somehow the receiver looks a little different as does the mag tube. As a side note btw they actually do refer to the tank in the C-130 as a "Buford". --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 10:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I have the Blu-Ray (which is already out here in Finland, and in several other European countries) and I did some screencapping. I will finish the page and tidy it up tomorrow. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::'''Since we are a U.S. Based site, DO NOT upload anything until after the December 2010 release date. I am SERIOUS. ''' We have no way of verifying pre-release in ANY OTHER COUNTRY. (for example)(and unfortunately for our Asian members) we don't trust ANY pre release titles from Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia or China. With Europe, again we have no way of verifying this. This MAY be released in Finland, But of course I wonder why a major motion picture would be released in FINLAND before the U.S.? Regardless, you cannot upload images prior to the official release date. Since we can only verify the Studio's official DVD release date, IMFDB will stick to that. Sorry. Just stating that it is released in your country, sadly, in the past, has meant nothing, and it offers no legal protection for us if the member is mistaken and the images are indeed from a BOOTLEG of some sort. Thanks for your cooperation. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Movie will be out on Video Dec.11,2010 ==

So please do not put up any screenshots that aren't from the trailers or clips.

--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Special Forces OD-A ==

Random note but in the description for this page it is said that 'The A-Team' is a Ranger team which isn't true. Yes they are all Ranger's but they are actually a U.S. Army Special Forces OD-A team. And no it's not because they are called 'The A-Team', it's because of the mission types they take on and the fact that when they are at trial you can see their Special Forces pin's along with the Special Forces Insignia on their arm's. They could possibly be 1st SFOD-D, but that would depend on what color their beret's are and since I'm colorblind I can't tell. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:57, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Really doubt they are Delta. It's been a good while since I've seen the movie, but I don't recall seeing a red and black USASOC patch on their uniforms. Highly likely they are U.S. Army SF. And someone probably thought they were Rangers because they all had a Ranger tattoo. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 19:28, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Anything's possible and I figured that was why someone labeled them as a Ranger team. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:04, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

Isnt it true that, even if they were Green Beret's or Unit operators that theyd still wear the Ranger tabs? As i recall, they have 7th Special Forces flashing on their berets. [[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 19:19, 15 February 2013 (EST)

== Pike's Sig sight ==

What kind of sight is on Pike's rifle. Is it even a real sight?--Gunner5

Talk:The A-Team (2010)

2013-02-16T00:20:02Z

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== Bradley Cooper: Fully Automatic ==
If you purchase the Unrated Extended Edition on I-tunes it comes with a very cool extra feature about Bradley Cooper really taking well to the M4, and to guns in general. Joe Carnahan is a shooter and gun owner himself, and he seems to really get a kick out of Cooper becoming a shooter. It has a ton of behind the scenes material with the guys training, and it also has an unseen sequence of Cooper reloading and firing the M4 that HEAT fans will enjoy.

== Hannibal 1911 hi res pic ==

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/The-A-Team-movie-image-9.jpg

I just watched the trailer. Is that tank an XM8 Buford? Wow.

:As a note, the M8 AGS was never called the Buford. It's believed to have actually been coined by Tom Clancy in his book ''Armored Cav: A Guided Tour of an Armored Cavalry Regiment'' and picked up on by others. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

A-Team -- B-movie?

''-Implying B-movie is a bad thing.''--[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 15:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

No shit. I mean come on, the trailer shows one of the team shooting down an F-18 with a mounted machine gun on a tank, WHILE THE TANK IS FALLING OUT OF THE GODDAMNED SKY!!! Even kicking your transmission of disbelief into high gear won't help that.[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:Consider the source material. You've got four special forces guys who expend thousands of rounds of ammo and yet manage to not even wound, much less kill, anyone in five years, all while somehow evading arrest while riding around in a VERY distinctive vehicle driven by an even more distinctive driver. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 05:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Well dude if you pay attention to the shows audience, it was a helluva a lot of kids on a friday night, they didn't want it to be to violent, but you have to give them this, of there was a tire to be shot it was shot.
I think the original was more believable cause it was back in the day no satellites and databases no APB's so its probably hard to catch them if they go all around, nowadays the show wouldn't work just to unrealistic.
it looked like a drone not a fighter
Yeah its a drone still stupid

it aspost to be an over the top action movies

It's an MQ-1 Predator which is a UAV. Also the film is Fictitious. Made for peoples enjoyment to get away from the real world by watching something impossible done on film. what's the problem with that.
[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]

also lately in films and tv show they have been showing UAV to by mounted with machine guns when they can only by fitted with missiles and bombs.

REMOVED FROM MAIN PAGE (Regarding Hannibal's 1911):
:It was definitely a Para-Ordnance model .45, you can see it has a wider grip, his mags are double stacked, and the logo is on the right side of the slide. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::And Hannibal obviously uses two different guns as his sidearms; first one in the film's first half, when Hannibal and his Team are still working for the government, and the second during the latter half. Most noticeable is the diffrence between the front slide serrations: the first one has six, and the second one has only three. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::: The Special features on the Blu Ray give it as a "Para-Ordnance P14-45 Limited". Ten in the mag, one in the spout. .45 ACP, semi-auto. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== M4A1 ==

Can anyone post some links or pictures of these rifles used in the Movie?
I am really loving those Olive Foregrips and Stock.

UPDATE: Could the M4A1 actually be this?
[[Image:M6A1.jpg|thumb|right|500px|LWRC M6A1, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
:no, this is too expensive. Also note their rifles have step-down on the barrels for nubtube fixation.

::Armorers tend to mostly use what they have in inventory already. They're not going to go out and buy all-new ARs (since all such rifles are so similar). It's more likely that these are just regular M4A1s that have been fitted with the olive furniture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

::And the M203 is ''not'' a "noob tube"... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right, someone's been playing too much MW2 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

The gun is in fact the LWRC M6A1.

: According to the Special features on the Blu Ray they are "Bushmaster XM15-E2S"--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 18:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

About these M4s. I actually saw a picture of the A-Team running away from an explosion, in IMDB, okay and I saw Hannibal's M4 had an EOTech sight on it. And Face's M4 must have been the only one with the Red Dot Sight on it. I didn't want to post the actual picture, due to me fearing copyright, but is it alright if I provide just the link to that picture? [[User:Shoockeye7665|Shoockeye7665]] 12:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Why does it still say tan magpul furniture, looks FG to me. - skyrider

== Hannibal's sidearm ==

No doubt about it: Hannibal's 1911 is in fact a Para-ord. The slide serrations spell it all out on this one. 6 in back - offset under sights - with 3 in front. Looks like a P14 with front cocking serrations milled, or more likely an S14 with night sights. You even see the finish in the movie, and it almost looks like they've just sprayed over the stainless. Regardless, it's a Para. If not one specific, it could just be a mix-master hi-cap. --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I recently saw a production still in a magazine of Hannibal and he had a shoulder holster on with what appeared to carry a 1911 variant possibly a Kimber Custom II.

Any chance at someone identifing the brand/type of shoulder holster that Hannibal uses? [[Spades of Columbia]]

Just saw the movie last night; Hannibal's 1911 is most certainly not a Kimber of any sort. Slide serrations are way off, so who knows. Almost looked like a custom slide from Caspian, but still wouldn't bet on it.

As for the leather shoulder rig, it looked a lot like a DeSantis.

To me the 1911 looks like a Para p-14 or some sort of variant, take a look at one of the promo pics where you can see it in the shoulder holster. Looks like a double-stack grip to me, but maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.

:I just saw this movie, and I agree that it's not a Kimber Warrior (lacks the Picatinny rail). My guess is Colt XSE. It's also likely that it was a custom 1911 assembled by the movie's armorers; the slide could be Colt, frame could be something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

No it's defiantly a Kimber possibly a Custom some don't have rails. Confirmed by the films armorer the same guy who confirmed Face's Glock as a 17 standard finish.

::I need to see that evidence before you change it back (link please). And if it's not a Warrior, then don't put down that it is. It's better to say "Unknown 1911" if we don't know the exact model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 11:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

:: If I can find it I will post the link but I watched as a special on Sleuth or FX I forget.

It seems that Hannible uses multiply 1911's through out the movie...but it looked as if the 1911 that Lynch said was Hannibles personal weapon that he attempted to frame hannible with at the end of the movie was a Nighthawk GRP or even the enforcer model. But pretty sure he didn't use the same 1911 the whole time. [[Spades of Columbia]]

::The gun was heavily ruined to make it look more used by a Veteran. When Hannibal pulled a gun on Baracus I had seen a large logo (that not seen a trademark) on the right side of the slide near the front grooves (Can anyone confirm?). It is possible that this logo is of the Rangers, as was done with the logo of SEAL TEAM 4 on the Augustus Gibbons Colt XSE in [[XXX 2: State of the Union#Colt XSE M1911|XXX 2]]. [[User: Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

it could be a Nickel Plated Nighthawk FLX. these are fairly new guns, but as stated on the page. are double stacked.

[[Image:FLX 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nighthawk FLX - .45 ACP]]

I'd say thats probably a very accurate guess. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Good lookin piece but the front grip serrations are all kinds of diffrent.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 12:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

It can't be a double stack/para. In that last picture you see more than 3 serrations in the front and you can even imagine a single stack mag at the bottom. Also you can see in the grip/right above the trigger area that it is flat. Double stack guns have it widen for the wide magazine.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/para1.jpg
look straight above the magazine catch
EDIT: Actually after rewatching, it is probably both and it is just switched throughout the movie- skyrider

Yeah, thats what i was saying. Hannible uses more then one 1911 in this movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 16:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I love Nighthawk 1911's - and I would like to see one in a movie - but his 1911 doesn't run a 2011 frame.--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

its a shame. ud think with games like MW2 or Medal of Honor that has Elite units ud think theyd have Multiple Nighthawk variants. Delta Force uses them thanks to larry Vickers.

would the guns firing pin be removed or replanted so easily?

It would be that easy if his gun is based on a series 70...but if his gun had a firing pin safety then no you couldn't do what he did as easy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 10:48, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

:Are there 1911's with firing pin safeties? :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:54, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
::Yes the Series 80 Colt's, Para, Kimber, a few others as well. Those without, Springfield for example use a titanium firing pin with a heavy spring to pass the drop test.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:07, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

I was wondering if we should seperate the obvious single stack 1911 thats seen briefly at the beginning of the movie? I notice that its noted to be a different gun, and i know its SUPPOSED to be standing in for the Para, but its obviously not, should we move it out from the Para entry or at the very least, note that its a stand in, not just say its the same gun but caption it different. -MissySummers-

== Not a lot of new guns ==

I am a bit disappointed that they didn't have a wide variety of weapons used int his movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:I was a little more disappointed by the dialogue, the way in which the action scenes were directed, and the excessive cheese throughout. And I tend to think that kind of stuff matters a little more than the variety of weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I saw a guy with an Uzi at the bank, and I'm sure the Sig 552 isn't. It has a ful rail on top.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:I don't think it was a 556; the receiver didn't look like it (mostly around the magazine well). Also, they make continuous rails for the 552. I think it's more likely that they just took a 552, removed the stock, and gave it the upper rail, though I could be wrong. We'll see when the Blu Ray becomes available. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

:I thought it was a 552 the first time. After viewing again I'm pretty sure it was the 556 pistol, it seemed to be using STANAG magazines. And for posterity, I enjoyed the stupid dialog and oozing cheese. C'mon its the A Team its not gonna be oscar worthy, its gonna be guns, explosions, stupidity and deus ex machina. =P [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] 15:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:: The first thing that came to mind when I saw Pike carrying the "552" was (strangely enough) a KAC PDW or a Robinson XCR... though I admit I never paid that much attention to what he was using. :S (BTW, I also enjoyed it for it's over-the-top cheesiness. It's exactly what I was expecting out of an A-team movie.)*EDIT* just saw the movie again with my GF... when Pike first gets out of the car at the beginning of the scene I could clearly tell it was a Sig 552. No full-top rail, no forward vertical grip that I could see. Later the gun looks like it may have switched. This may be either an editing or continuity error.

It looks just like the Sig 556 pistol...[[Spades of Columbia]]

:Somebody added some new pictures:

:[[Image:A-TEAM_PIKE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:That is definitely a SIG 552 with the stock removed. Handguards, magwell, sights, etc. are totally wrong for a 556. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

you are correct...the front gas adjustment is a 552 design and not even close the 556.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

stock hasnt been removed its just folded to the left side of the gun. handy little touch that makes it a more concealable package, i do think they change the doctor sight though. [[User:fenris357|fenris357]]

:Actually, the stock on all SIG 550-series rifles folds to the right, not the left. His gun is clearly missing the stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Mini 14 ==
Hannibal was firing full auto, wouldn't that make it an AC-556? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

He may have just been firing quickly, like they did in the original TV show.

In the picture we have, it looks like a Ruger Mini 14 stainless with a factory ruger folding stock. Look at the front sight. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

He was using a stainless semi-auto with the older front blade sight, and a factory folding stock. I didn't notice what I'd call full auto firing, just rapid fire semi-auto. I believe the pic on the main page is in fact an AC-556, and not representative of the one used in the film. The one in the film did NOT have the birdcage flash-hider or the mid-barrel mounted front sight. For reference, it was this gun: http://www.armco-guns.com/Mini%2014%20folder%20%202.JPG --[[User:Rugerlvr|Rugerlvr]] 00:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

:If he was firing semi-auto, then he had an impossibly fast trigger finger. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

The sound editing could have made it sound full auto. I'll need to watch the movie again [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

: I'm with Spartan, I'm pretty sure he was firing full-auto. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 19:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Its definatly still a semi, he fires fairly fast, but its about one round per bad guy and is definatly not full auto --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I just watch the movie last night; it's definitely semi. -SasquatchJim

== Nice Little Things ==

There were a few small things in this movie that made me smile, things you don't see in most movies, like when Pike was in the car and they were gonna shoot him, and the CIA guys were failing with the Beretta, and one called it a silencer and he muttered something about it being a suppressor. And I also noticed for once the Armorer was in the credits, as "Armorer/Firearms", and for the most part all the fights and reloading and such were very good, there were only a couple little things that seemed a ''little'' off, but it was almost perfect :)

Pike may have been a traitorous fink, but at least he wasn't stupid. Why is the CIA always inept, despite being super-evil? They can listen to your phone conversations half a world away but ''still'' can't pull of their evil schemes. 2 things I didn't like about the embassy scene: One, the CIA just walks through security. I was so wishing a dozen marines with M16s would stop them, and 2: the extradition order. If Sosa was a bright as she usually was, she would have maid sure it wasn't a fake. I wouldn't put it past the oh-so-evil CIA to do that.

== Mk 19 ==

wasnt there one at the end of the film?

When? I remember an M2, but no Mk19.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

near the end, at the docks, where lynch is up on that crane. I could have sworn there was a Mk 19 sitting next to him.

== Frankfurt am Main skyscrapers ==

You can replace the "Koeniggs Bank" in the last section (where Baracus fires the M203 launcher) with "Königsbank". I am not sure if the "ö" causes problems with the code of this website, but you may give it a try. --Paul_Baeumer [[Special:Contributions/84.181.224.167|84.181.224.167]] 18:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikes SIG ==

Im sure pike was using a 228 not a 226 as it looked compact and for some reason i couted off his rounds he fired before reloading. 13, same mag cap as the 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

:Nope, it was a 226. I saw the squared trigger guard myself. I also own a 226 and know SIGs pretty well, so I am pretty confident about this. Also, counting the rounds fired is a bad way to figure out the type of gun used; we all know movies never show reloading, making it look like actors fire hundreds of rounds from 30-shot mags. Same principle applies here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, I just streamed that scene and you are right its definatly too long to be a 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

What is on the rail of pikes Sig SG 552? it doesnt look like a sight.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

== PX4 Compact ==

Is it just me, or does the Compact PX4 look HUGE in Jessica Biels' hands? I was looking at the [[Live Free or Die Hard]] page and it looks about the same size when it's in Bruce Willis' hands. Maybe he just has large hands.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:She's a woman. Of course she has smaller hands than Bruce Willis. I don't know very many women who have big hands. Every time I ever go to ranges, I notice that women there have trouble properly gripping most guns because their hands are so smaller than those of their boyfriends/husbands. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks bigger than the px4. But it might just be that it is Berettas Px4 Storm Sub-Compact pistol. It's not suppost to be released untill 2011 they may have put it in the movie to per-mote the guns release. Here is a link goths gun.
http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-type-f-sub-compact/

:While it's possible that Beretta may have provided Px4 Sub-Compacts as a promotional deal with the producers, the guns in the movie look to me like Compacts, not Sub-Compacts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

::We need to get some continuity because the page text says compact, but the pictures are of the subcompact.

==Face==

Ok a few things Face. Firstly on the bagdad mission face is carrying two side arms, what looks like a walther p99 on the left of his chest and a second (possibly his glock) on his thigh. On a seperaate not did anyone else think it was odd that he only had 4 rounds in his glock at the showdown at the docks? (Which he uses to shoot free the cables). Even if you include the 2 shots at the frankfurt station that makes for 6 total, why would you not take at least a full mag? That said I thought he was very proficent at weapons handling. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 20:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

He's too busy chasing around Jessica Biel to worry about loading his gun.
:I find I can't fault him for that ;) Seriously though are you sure the slide locks back during the fight at the docks? I didn't notice myself, but is it possible the gun had a double feed, causing the slide to partially lock? If not it's probably just a goof, like they took multiple takes of that shot and didn't bother reloading the mag between takes.

It seems to be similar to in Shooter where there were only 4 rounds in the Beretta.

It was a Taurus, sign your posts.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.
What do you mean, exactly? Like, put my name after it? 'Cause I'm not a member or anything.

Face has his Glock on his thigh holster in Bagdad. Im not 100% sure its a P99 on his vest, cant find a good picture of it and dont own the film yet, but it definately does look like one.

Is in fact a P99 on his vest. You get a good shot of it when they let B.A out of the container.

[[Image:Ateam-M4-prod-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Bradley Cooper]] as Face and [[Liam Neeson]] as Hannibal with M4A1 carbines in a production still. Glock in thigh holster. Possibly a P99 on left side of his vest.]]

Face still carries his Glock on his thigh in addition to the p99 on his vest in baghdad, whoever re did the page needs to re do the glock entry to represent this - Captain Snikt--[[Special:Contributions/86.148.97.195|86.148.97.195]] 01:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this really needs to be changed --[[Special:Contributions/86.150.213.139|86.150.213.139]] 01:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Remington 870 ==

Is that a Remington 870? I don't know if it just the angle of the pic but somehow the receiver looks a little different as does the mag tube. As a side note btw they actually do refer to the tank in the C-130 as a "Buford". --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 10:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I have the Blu-Ray (which is already out here in Finland, and in several other European countries) and I did some screencapping. I will finish the page and tidy it up tomorrow. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::'''Since we are a U.S. Based site, DO NOT upload anything until after the December 2010 release date. I am SERIOUS. ''' We have no way of verifying pre-release in ANY OTHER COUNTRY. (for example)(and unfortunately for our Asian members) we don't trust ANY pre release titles from Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia or China. With Europe, again we have no way of verifying this. This MAY be released in Finland, But of course I wonder why a major motion picture would be released in FINLAND before the U.S.? Regardless, you cannot upload images prior to the official release date. Since we can only verify the Studio's official DVD release date, IMFDB will stick to that. Sorry. Just stating that it is released in your country, sadly, in the past, has meant nothing, and it offers no legal protection for us if the member is mistaken and the images are indeed from a BOOTLEG of some sort. Thanks for your cooperation. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Movie will be out on Video Dec.11,2010 ==

So please do not put up any screenshots that aren't from the trailers or clips.

--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Special Forces OD-A ==

Random note but in the description for this page it is said that 'The A-Team' is a Ranger team which isn't true. Yes they are all Ranger's but they are actually a U.S. Army Special Forces OD-A team. And no it's not because they are called 'The A-Team', it's because of the mission types they take on and the fact that when they are at trial you can see their Special Forces pin's along with the Special Forces Insignia on their arm's. They could possibly be 1st SFOD-D, but that would depend on what color their beret's are and since I'm colorblind I can't tell. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:57, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Really doubt they are Delta. It's been a good while since I've seen the movie, but I don't recall seeing a red and black USASOC patch on their uniforms. Highly likely they are U.S. Army SF. And someone probably thought they were Rangers because they all had a Ranger tattoo. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 19:28, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Anything's possible and I figured that was why someone labeled them as a Ranger team. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:04, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

Isnt it true that, even if they were Green Beret's or Unit operators that theyd still wear the Ranger tabs? As i recall, they have 7th Special Forces flashing on their berets. [[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 19:19, 15 February 2013 (EST)

== Pike's Sig sight ==

What kind of sight is on Pike's rifle. Is it even a real sight?--Gunner5

Talk:The A-Team (2010)

2013-02-16T00:19:15Z

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== Bradley Cooper: Fully Automatic ==
If you purchase the Unrated Extended Edition on I-tunes it comes with a very cool extra feature about Bradley Cooper really taking well to the M4, and to guns in general. Joe Carnahan is a shooter and gun owner himself, and he seems to really get a kick out of Cooper becoming a shooter. It has a ton of behind the scenes material with the guys training, and it also has an unseen sequence of Cooper reloading and firing the M4 that HEAT fans will enjoy.

== Hannibal 1911 hi res pic ==

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/The-A-Team-movie-image-9.jpg

I just watched the trailer. Is that tank an XM8 Buford? Wow.

:As a note, the M8 AGS was never called the Buford. It's believed to have actually been coined by Tom Clancy in his book ''Armored Cav: A Guided Tour of an Armored Cavalry Regiment'' and picked up on by others. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

A-Team -- B-movie?

''-Implying B-movie is a bad thing.''--[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 15:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

No shit. I mean come on, the trailer shows one of the team shooting down an F-18 with a mounted machine gun on a tank, WHILE THE TANK IS FALLING OUT OF THE GODDAMNED SKY!!! Even kicking your transmission of disbelief into high gear won't help that.[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:Consider the source material. You've got four special forces guys who expend thousands of rounds of ammo and yet manage to not even wound, much less kill, anyone in five years, all while somehow evading arrest while riding around in a VERY distinctive vehicle driven by an even more distinctive driver. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 05:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Well dude if you pay attention to the shows audience, it was a helluva a lot of kids on a friday night, they didn't want it to be to violent, but you have to give them this, of there was a tire to be shot it was shot.
I think the original was more believable cause it was back in the day no satellites and databases no APB's so its probably hard to catch them if they go all around, nowadays the show wouldn't work just to unrealistic.
it looked like a drone not a fighter
Yeah its a drone still stupid

it aspost to be an over the top action movies

It's an MQ-1 Predator which is a UAV. Also the film is Fictitious. Made for peoples enjoyment to get away from the real world by watching something impossible done on film. what's the problem with that.
[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]

also lately in films and tv show they have been showing UAV to by mounted with machine guns when they can only by fitted with missiles and bombs.

REMOVED FROM MAIN PAGE (Regarding Hannibal's 1911):
:It was definitely a Para-Ordnance model .45, you can see it has a wider grip, his mags are double stacked, and the logo is on the right side of the slide. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::And Hannibal obviously uses two different guns as his sidearms; first one in the film's first half, when Hannibal and his Team are still working for the government, and the second during the latter half. Most noticeable is the diffrence between the front slide serrations: the first one has six, and the second one has only three. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::: The Special features on the Blu Ray give it as a "Para-Ordnance P14-45 Limited". Ten in the mag, one in the spout. .45 ACP, semi-auto. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== M4A1 ==

Can anyone post some links or pictures of these rifles used in the Movie?
I am really loving those Olive Foregrips and Stock.

UPDATE: Could the M4A1 actually be this?
[[Image:M6A1.jpg|thumb|right|500px|LWRC M6A1, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
:no, this is too expensive. Also note their rifles have step-down on the barrels for nubtube fixation.

::Armorers tend to mostly use what they have in inventory already. They're not going to go out and buy all-new ARs (since all such rifles are so similar). It's more likely that these are just regular M4A1s that have been fitted with the olive furniture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

::And the M203 is ''not'' a "noob tube"... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right, someone's been playing too much MW2 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

The gun is in fact the LWRC M6A1.

: According to the Special features on the Blu Ray they are "Bushmaster XM15-E2S"--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 18:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

About these M4s. I actually saw a picture of the A-Team running away from an explosion, in IMDB, okay and I saw Hannibal's M4 had an EOTech sight on it. And Face's M4 must have been the only one with the Red Dot Sight on it. I didn't want to post the actual picture, due to me fearing copyright, but is it alright if I provide just the link to that picture? [[User:Shoockeye7665|Shoockeye7665]] 12:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Why does it still say tan magpul furniture, looks FG to me. - skyrider

== Hannibal's sidearm ==

No doubt about it: Hannibal's 1911 is in fact a Para-ord. The slide serrations spell it all out on this one. 6 in back - offset under sights - with 3 in front. Looks like a P14 with front cocking serrations milled, or more likely an S14 with night sights. You even see the finish in the movie, and it almost looks like they've just sprayed over the stainless. Regardless, it's a Para. If not one specific, it could just be a mix-master hi-cap. --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 23:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I recently saw a production still in a magazine of Hannibal and he had a shoulder holster on with what appeared to carry a 1911 variant possibly a Kimber Custom II.

Any chance at someone identifing the brand/type of shoulder holster that Hannibal uses? [[Spades of Columbia]]

Just saw the movie last night; Hannibal's 1911 is most certainly not a Kimber of any sort. Slide serrations are way off, so who knows. Almost looked like a custom slide from Caspian, but still wouldn't bet on it.

As for the leather shoulder rig, it looked a lot like a DeSantis.

To me the 1911 looks like a Para p-14 or some sort of variant, take a look at one of the promo pics where you can see it in the shoulder holster. Looks like a double-stack grip to me, but maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.

:I just saw this movie, and I agree that it's not a Kimber Warrior (lacks the Picatinny rail). My guess is Colt XSE. It's also likely that it was a custom 1911 assembled by the movie's armorers; the slide could be Colt, frame could be something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

No it's defiantly a Kimber possibly a Custom some don't have rails. Confirmed by the films armorer the same guy who confirmed Face's Glock as a 17 standard finish.

::I need to see that evidence before you change it back (link please). And if it's not a Warrior, then don't put down that it is. It's better to say "Unknown 1911" if we don't know the exact model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 11:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

:: If I can find it I will post the link but I watched as a special on Sleuth or FX I forget.

It seems that Hannible uses multiply 1911's through out the movie...but it looked as if the 1911 that Lynch said was Hannibles personal weapon that he attempted to frame hannible with at the end of the movie was a Nighthawk GRP or even the enforcer model. But pretty sure he didn't use the same 1911 the whole time. [[Spades of Columbia]]

::The gun was heavily ruined to make it look more used by a Veteran. When Hannibal pulled a gun on Baracus I had seen a large logo (that not seen a trademark) on the right side of the slide near the front grooves (Can anyone confirm?). It is possible that this logo is of the Rangers, as was done with the logo of SEAL TEAM 4 on the Augustus Gibbons Colt XSE in [[XXX 2: State of the Union#Colt XSE M1911|XXX 2]]. [[User: Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

it could be a Nickel Plated Nighthawk FLX. these are fairly new guns, but as stated on the page. are double stacked.

[[Image:FLX 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nighthawk FLX - .45 ACP]]

I'd say thats probably a very accurate guess. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Good lookin piece but the front grip serrations are all kinds of diffrent.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 12:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

It can't be a double stack/para. In that last picture you see more than 3 serrations in the front and you can even imagine a single stack mag at the bottom. Also you can see in the grip/right above the trigger area that it is flat. Double stack guns have it widen for the wide magazine.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/para1.jpg
look straight above the magazine catch
EDIT: Actually after rewatching, it is probably both and it is just switched throughout the movie- skyrider

Yeah, thats what i was saying. Hannible uses more then one 1911 in this movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 16:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I love Nighthawk 1911's - and I would like to see one in a movie - but his 1911 doesn't run a 2011 frame.--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

its a shame. ud think with games like MW2 or Medal of Honor that has Elite units ud think theyd have Multiple Nighthawk variants. Delta Force uses them thanks to larry Vickers.

would the guns firing pin be removed or replanted so easily?

It would be that easy if his gun is based on a series 70...but if his gun had a firing pin safety then no you couldn't do what he did as easy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 10:48, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

:Are there 1911's with firing pin safeties? :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:54, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
::Yes the Series 80 Colt's, Para, Kimber, a few others as well. Those without, Springfield for example use a titanium firing pin with a heavy spring to pass the drop test.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:07, 4 November 2011 (CDT)

I was wondering if we should seperate the obvious single stack 1911 thats seen briefly at the beginning of the movie? I notice that its noted to be a different gun, and i know its SUPPOSED to be standing in for the Para, but its obviously not, should we move it out from the Para entry or at the very least, note that its a stand in, not just say its the same gun but caption it different. -MissySummers-

== Not a lot of new guns ==

I am a bit disappointed that they didn't have a wide variety of weapons used int his movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:I was a little more disappointed by the dialogue, the way in which the action scenes were directed, and the excessive cheese throughout. And I tend to think that kind of stuff matters a little more than the variety of weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I saw a guy with an Uzi at the bank, and I'm sure the Sig 552 isn't. It has a ful rail on top.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:I don't think it was a 556; the receiver didn't look like it (mostly around the magazine well). Also, they make continuous rails for the 552. I think it's more likely that they just took a 552, removed the stock, and gave it the upper rail, though I could be wrong. We'll see when the Blu Ray becomes available. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

:I thought it was a 552 the first time. After viewing again I'm pretty sure it was the 556 pistol, it seemed to be using STANAG magazines. And for posterity, I enjoyed the stupid dialog and oozing cheese. C'mon its the A Team its not gonna be oscar worthy, its gonna be guns, explosions, stupidity and deus ex machina. =P [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] 15:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:: The first thing that came to mind when I saw Pike carrying the "552" was (strangely enough) a KAC PDW or a Robinson XCR... though I admit I never paid that much attention to what he was using. :S (BTW, I also enjoyed it for it's over-the-top cheesiness. It's exactly what I was expecting out of an A-team movie.)*EDIT* just saw the movie again with my GF... when Pike first gets out of the car at the beginning of the scene I could clearly tell it was a Sig 552. No full-top rail, no forward vertical grip that I could see. Later the gun looks like it may have switched. This may be either an editing or continuity error.

It looks just like the Sig 556 pistol...[[Spades of Columbia]]

:Somebody added some new pictures:

:[[Image:A-TEAM_PIKE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:That is definitely a SIG 552 with the stock removed. Handguards, magwell, sights, etc. are totally wrong for a 556. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

you are correct...the front gas adjustment is a 552 design and not even close the 556.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

stock hasnt been removed its just folded to the left side of the gun. handy little touch that makes it a more concealable package, i do think they change the doctor sight though. [[User:fenris357|fenris357]]

:Actually, the stock on all SIG 550-series rifles folds to the right, not the left. His gun is clearly missing the stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Mini 14 ==
Hannibal was firing full auto, wouldn't that make it an AC-556? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

He may have just been firing quickly, like they did in the original TV show.

In the picture we have, it looks like a Ruger Mini 14 stainless with a factory ruger folding stock. Look at the front sight. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

He was using a stainless semi-auto with the older front blade sight, and a factory folding stock. I didn't notice what I'd call full auto firing, just rapid fire semi-auto. I believe the pic on the main page is in fact an AC-556, and not representative of the one used in the film. The one in the film did NOT have the birdcage flash-hider or the mid-barrel mounted front sight. For reference, it was this gun: http://www.armco-guns.com/Mini%2014%20folder%20%202.JPG --[[User:Rugerlvr|Rugerlvr]] 00:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

:If he was firing semi-auto, then he had an impossibly fast trigger finger. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

The sound editing could have made it sound full auto. I'll need to watch the movie again [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

: I'm with Spartan, I'm pretty sure he was firing full-auto. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 19:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Its definatly still a semi, he fires fairly fast, but its about one round per bad guy and is definatly not full auto --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I just watch the movie last night; it's definitely semi. -SasquatchJim

== Nice Little Things ==

There were a few small things in this movie that made me smile, things you don't see in most movies, like when Pike was in the car and they were gonna shoot him, and the CIA guys were failing with the Beretta, and one called it a silencer and he muttered something about it being a suppressor. And I also noticed for once the Armorer was in the credits, as "Armorer/Firearms", and for the most part all the fights and reloading and such were very good, there were only a couple little things that seemed a ''little'' off, but it was almost perfect :)

Pike may have been a traitorous fink, but at least he wasn't stupid. Why is the CIA always inept, despite being super-evil? They can listen to your phone conversations half a world away but ''still'' can't pull of their evil schemes. 2 things I didn't like about the embassy scene: One, the CIA just walks through security. I was so wishing a dozen marines with M16s would stop them, and 2: the extradition order. If Sosa was a bright as she usually was, she would have maid sure it wasn't a fake. I wouldn't put it past the oh-so-evil CIA to do that.

== Mk 19 ==

wasnt there one at the end of the film?

When? I remember an M2, but no Mk19.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

near the end, at the docks, where lynch is up on that crane. I could have sworn there was a Mk 19 sitting next to him.

== Frankfurt am Main skyscrapers ==

You can replace the "Koeniggs Bank" in the last section (where Baracus fires the M203 launcher) with "Königsbank". I am not sure if the "ö" causes problems with the code of this website, but you may give it a try. --Paul_Baeumer [[Special:Contributions/84.181.224.167|84.181.224.167]] 18:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikes SIG ==

Im sure pike was using a 228 not a 226 as it looked compact and for some reason i couted off his rounds he fired before reloading. 13, same mag cap as the 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

:Nope, it was a 226. I saw the squared trigger guard myself. I also own a 226 and know SIGs pretty well, so I am pretty confident about this. Also, counting the rounds fired is a bad way to figure out the type of gun used; we all know movies never show reloading, making it look like actors fire hundreds of rounds from 30-shot mags. Same principle applies here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, I just streamed that scene and you are right its definatly too long to be a 228 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 18:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

What is on the rail of pikes Sig SG 552? it doesnt look like a sight.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

== PX4 Compact ==

Is it just me, or does the Compact PX4 look HUGE in Jessica Biels' hands? I was looking at the [[Live Free or Die Hard]] page and it looks about the same size when it's in Bruce Willis' hands. Maybe he just has large hands.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:She's a woman. Of course she has smaller hands than Bruce Willis. I don't know very many women who have big hands. Every time I ever go to ranges, I notice that women there have trouble properly gripping most guns because their hands are so smaller than those of their boyfriends/husbands. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks bigger than the px4. But it might just be that it is Berettas Px4 Storm Sub-Compact pistol. It's not suppost to be released untill 2011 they may have put it in the movie to per-mote the guns release. Here is a link goths gun.
http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-type-f-sub-compact/

:While it's possible that Beretta may have provided Px4 Sub-Compacts as a promotional deal with the producers, the guns in the movie look to me like Compacts, not Sub-Compacts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

::We need to get some continuity because the page text says compact, but the pictures are of the subcompact.

==Face==

Ok a few things Face. Firstly on the bagdad mission face is carrying two side arms, what looks like a walther p99 on the left of his chest and a second (possibly his glock) on his thigh. On a seperaate not did anyone else think it was odd that he only had 4 rounds in his glock at the showdown at the docks? (Which he uses to shoot free the cables). Even if you include the 2 shots at the frankfurt station that makes for 6 total, why would you not take at least a full mag? That said I thought he was very proficent at weapons handling. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 20:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

He's too busy chasing around Jessica Biel to worry about loading his gun.
:I find I can't fault him for that ;) Seriously though are you sure the slide locks back during the fight at the docks? I didn't notice myself, but is it possible the gun had a double feed, causing the slide to partially lock? If not it's probably just a goof, like they took multiple takes of that shot and didn't bother reloading the mag between takes.

It seems to be similar to in Shooter where there were only 4 rounds in the Beretta.

It was a Taurus, sign your posts.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 21:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.
What do you mean, exactly? Like, put my name after it? 'Cause I'm not a member or anything.

Face has his Glock on his thigh holster in Bagdad. Im not 100% sure its a P99 on his vest, cant find a good picture of it and dont own the film yet, but it definately does look like one.

Is in fact a P99 on his vest. You get a good shot of it when they let B.A out of the container.

[[Image:Ateam-M4-prod-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Bradley Cooper]] as Face and [[Liam Neeson]] as Hannibal with M4A1 carbines in a production still. Glock in thigh holster. Possibly a P99 on left side of his vest.]]

Face still carries his Glock on his thigh in addition to the p99 on his vest in baghdad, whoever re did the page needs to re do the glock entry to represent this - Captain Snikt--[[Special:Contributions/86.148.97.195|86.148.97.195]] 01:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this really needs to be changed --[[Special:Contributions/86.150.213.139|86.150.213.139]] 01:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Remington 870 ==

Is that a Remington 870? I don't know if it just the angle of the pic but somehow the receiver looks a little different as does the mag tube. As a side note btw they actually do refer to the tank in the C-130 as a "Buford". --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 10:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I have the Blu-Ray (which is already out here in Finland, and in several other European countries) and I did some screencapping. I will finish the page and tidy it up tomorrow. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::'''Since we are a U.S. Based site, DO NOT upload anything until after the December 2010 release date. I am SERIOUS. ''' We have no way of verifying pre-release in ANY OTHER COUNTRY. (for example)(and unfortunately for our Asian members) we don't trust ANY pre release titles from Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia or China. With Europe, again we have no way of verifying this. This MAY be released in Finland, But of course I wonder why a major motion picture would be released in FINLAND before the U.S.? Regardless, you cannot upload images prior to the official release date. Since we can only verify the Studio's official DVD release date, IMFDB will stick to that. Sorry. Just stating that it is released in your country, sadly, in the past, has meant nothing, and it offers no legal protection for us if the member is mistaken and the images are indeed from a BOOTLEG of some sort. Thanks for your cooperation. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Movie will be out on Video Dec.11,2010 ==

So please do not put up any screenshots that aren't from the trailers or clips.

--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Special Forces OD-A ==

Random note but in the description for this page it is said that 'The A-Team' is a Ranger team which isn't true. Yes they are all Ranger's but they are actually a U.S. Army Special Forces OD-A team. And no it's not because they are called 'The A-Team', it's because of the mission types they take on and the fact that when they are at trial you can see their Special Forces pin's along with the Special Forces Insignia on their arm's. They could possibly be 1st SFOD-D, but that would depend on what color their beret's are and since I'm colorblind I can't tell. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:57, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Really doubt they are Delta. It's been a good while since I've seen the movie, but I don't recall seeing a red and black USASOC patch on their uniforms. Highly likely they are U.S. Army SF. And someone probably thought they were Rangers because they all had a Ranger tattoo. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 19:28, 21 July 2012 (CDT)

Isnt it true that, even if they were Green Beret's or Unit operators that theyd still wear the Ranger tabs? As i recall, they have 7th Special Forces flashing on their berets. [[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 19:19, 15 February 2013 (EST)

Anything's possible and I figured that was why someone labeled them as a Ranger team. [[User:Puppet.of.fate|Puppet.of.fate]] 15:04, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

== Pike's Sig sight ==

What kind of sight is on Pike's rifle. Is it even a real sight?--Gunner5

Talk:Fast Five

2012-11-22T06:38:59Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* Gisele's "Gangsta" draw */

Vin's shotgun looks more like a Mossberg 590, if you look at the magazine tube and the shape of the trigger guard. It's clearer in the high resolution photo. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:45, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== M134 Minigun ==
Though the weapon is obviously chopped the set up seems to be similar to the one you see in the Dillon Aero publicity videos where one of their miniguns is set up inside a Suburban. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Superbowl Trailer ==

I can't screencap it, but in the trailer they showed during the Super Bowl Hobbs was shown using an M4A1 with an underbarrel M26 SASS [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 05:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

[[Image:Fastfive-UMP-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|That's [[Alimi Ballard]] of [[Numb3rs]] fame with the M4A1/M203 combo with an EOTech sight.]]

== Rock's vest ==
make and model of his tactical vest

(A little Google wouldn't have hurt) Looks to be one of the Blackhawk! S.T.R.I.K.E. models. And sign your posts. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 04:55, 1 May 2011 (CDT)
Google is of no help pas well as some of the military forums I frequent

Another question about the Rock's gear. I can't seem to figure out the make and model of his thigh holster. I have looked around some sites but found nothing that matches.--[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 14:15, 12 May 2011 (CDT)

Is it me or does the vest look like it's on back to front? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:52, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== The SMG identified as a S&W M-76 is actually.. ==
...a Carl Gustav M/45. I updated the page to reflect this information.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 20:46, 7 May 2011 (CDT)

== M-14 ==
During the Ambush of Hobb's convoy, is it just me, or did the M14 seem to be going rock n' roll? I thought I saw full auto muzzle flash from it. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:15, 22 August 2011 (CDT)

:Putting this photo here until I figure out why cropping a picture causes it to turn up distorted on the site --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 20:23, 23 September 2011 (CDT)
[[File:Fastfive-pstill-m14.jpg|thumb|none|499px|]]

::Tadaa! You can make pictures appear correctly by changing the the px by 1 or so. After the picture has updated itself, you can turn it back. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 17:05, 29 September 2011 (CDT)
:::That did the trick. Thanks for the suggestion!--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 19:45, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

::It's possible that the M-14 was going full auto. It was a select-fire rifle. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 17:58, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

How did anyone think the M14 had the Aimpoint Comp M3 and swivel mount 3x magnifier? It's very obviously got a scope of some sort. The agent with the M4/M203 has an EOTech and 3x magnifier, but none of the DSS team have Aimpoint sight.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 10:03, 6 October 2011 (CDT)

:::I dont see a selector switch on this particular gun, maybe it was modified for full auto fire for the movie?

[[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 01:24, 22 November 2012 (EST)

== Possible Ithaca Auto & Burglar? ==

When the crew holds up Reyes first cash house, does the doorman carry an Ithaca Auto & Burglar? I'd get a screen of it, but the shot is rather poorly lit, and i'm terrible at doing screens. [[User:The Kaptain|The Kaptain]] 22:00, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

==M26 MASS==
When exactly does Dwayne Johnson use his MASS in the film? I've watched the movie several times specifically watching for it and I've never seen him fire it, and yet every time I edit this page to reflect that, someone changes it back. Could somebody point the scene out to me? Or better yet, upload an image of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 06:16, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

He uses it when they are in the parking garage during the robbery scene, if my memory is correct. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 16:57, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:That's just it, I looked out for it specifically in that scene, and I didn't see him fire it once. Maybe I'm blind, could somebody upload a screencap of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:26, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
::I request proof of him using it as well. I've watched the movie several times and I sure don't see him using it in the parking garage. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 03:33, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
:::I just watched the film again last night, specifically looking out for Johnson using the M26 in scenes where it appeared, and I didn't see him firing it once. I even viewed the parking garage scene ''twice'' just to be sure. Until someone can upload an image of him actually using it I'm going to change the page to reflect that he never fires it on-screen. (I never heard him firing it off screen either.)--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 03:18, 10 May 2012 (CDT)

== Gisele's "Gangsta" draw ==

As i recall reading, somewhere, i believe it was in Colonel Jeff Cooper's Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip, he talks about how the Israeli's do a "flat" draw, like Gisele does in the movie, apparently done because as we know, the Israeli's, especially Mossad, teach to carry Condition 3, ie, no round in the chamber, and therefore need to rack the slide to ready the gun for combat, and as such decided that it was easier to do so, while drawing the gun flat, with a 90 degree angle.

Not sure if that was the intention of the director but, it seems logical, that she, being former Mossad, is doing as she was trained.

According to her Wikipedia page, Gal Gadot, who plays Gisele Yashar, served in the Israeli Army, before being a model, and took part in a photoshoot that featured models who had previously served. That might give a lot more insight into her useage of the Israeli made Jericho and her particular grip and draw of it in the movie.

Just a thought

[[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 01:23, 22 November 2012 (EST)

Talk:True Grit (2010)

2012-11-22T06:35:06Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* True West interview with Prop-man */

== A remake? ==

I know that the original ''[[True Grit]]'' was made 42 years ago and for many movie-goers it might as well have been made 100 years ago, but still that's pretty gutsy. Rooster Cogburn was the role that got [[John Wayne]] his Oscar and the original movie is a classic. However I will probably go and see this one whne it comes out at Christmas. I like [[Jeff Bridges]] and the Coen Brothers. Change of pace for them as well. Well somewhat. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

They're both based on a novel by Charles Portis. The Coen's version is apparently closer to the book than the 1969 film is.--[[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]

The Coen Brothers version looks like it's going to be a lot darker and grittier than the other one. It looks badass. -[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Those that have read the book know that it also has a good deal of humor, thanks to the first person narration of Mattie Ross. I hope and trust the Coens to include that aspect as well, though not in a voice-over.
-[[User:Blokhed|Blokhed]] 29 September 2010

I'm glad that Josh Brolin is in this. It'll make up for his piece-of-crap ''Jonah Hex'' movie. --[[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]] 15:41, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Well I watched it last night. It's pretty good. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:24, 11 June 2011 (CDT)

The original movie is truer to the book in terms of plot, but the remake is more faithful in terms of character and tone. - [[User:2wingo|2wingo]]

==Unknown Winchester==

Rooster is also seen firing a Winchester at one point in the trailer, though I can't discern which model.

:It looks like a Model 1873, or possibly an 1876. I say it could be an 1876 because of the rather large bore diameter. -
[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

To me, it looks like an 1866 Winchester "Yellow Boy" as the brass reciever is a giveaway- [[User: LaFarge]]
[[Image:tg-winchester-rooster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rooster takes aim with his Winchester.]]
[[Image:TG 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:TG 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=="Rooster" Cogburn charge==

"Rooster" Cogburn could be using his Single Action Army and Mattie Ross Colt Dragoon because it looks like only the gun in his left has a loading lever

nevermind in one of the TV spot trailers is shows there there both Colt navy or Colt Dragoon, it hard to tell

-- I just saw the movie, and can confirm that he uses his two 1851 Navys, contrary to my earlier identification of one Navy and one Dragoon. In fact he never handles Mattie's Dragoon apart from the beginning. -- Blokhed 12/26/10

The revolvers Rooster uses in making the charge are both 2nd model Colt Dragoons. He carries them in pommel holsters on the forks of his saddle. They are from the description in the Portis novel. They are the same model as Mattie's pistol. the reference to "Navy sixes" was an error in dialogue. Rooster carries a 7 1/2" Colt "Peacemaker" in a belt holster as described in the novel.

Actually the book is ambiguous, I just checked - Mattie describes the revolvers in his saddle holsters as 'Big guns like mine' but Rooster refers to them as 'Navy Sixes'. The movie stills of Rooster's charge could show either Navies or Dragoons, it's hard to tell. The interview with the prop guy in True West magazine (I've added the link at the bottom of this page) says they were 2nd model Dragoons, repros by Uberti like Mattie's [[User:Paulvilliams|Paulvilliams]] 05:41, 8 June 2012 (CDT)

During the Corn Bread Shoot, when the Dragoon is seen in his hand, i believe it was meant to stand in for one of his 1851 Navies. He empties his SAA, when retrieving more corn bread, the holsters on his saddle is only holding one of his Navies. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/Hitokiri_Gensai/vlcsnap-2011-11-19-04h01m39s156.png Note here, the near side holster is clearly holding a pistol while here, http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/Hitokiri_Gensai/vlcsnap-2011-11-19-03h58m43s23.png the holster is now clearly empty. The scene between these two is the clear shot of the Dragoon in his hands. -MissySummers-

== How does he fire right handed? ==

Hes blind in his right eye yet he fires long guns right handed, how could he be accurate without seeing the sights?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Which hand you use does not matter, eye dominance does. For example, my father shoots right handed while is left eye dominant. - Jeff

You don't get it, he can't SEE out of his right eye, how can he aim if he can not SEE the sights?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:54, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

you just tilt you head so you left eye is lined up with the sights.

Yeah, note the first picture above, his head is tilted far enough to use his left eye. (Im also right handed and left eye dominant.)

== The rope around the Henry Rifle. ==

I think the rope Brolin's character uses as a carrying strap should be mentioned because i just saw the film in theaters and the 3 other people that were with me were confused with what that was. Don't ask.

A rope sling was the civilian way of making a sling cheaply. At the ending fighting of World War II, The Arisaka rifles used rope slings with the rope drilled and knotted into the stock and wrapped around the fore end, instead of a leather sling with expensive sling loops. Along with multiple procedures removed for cheap production. - [[User: LaFarge]]

== Sharps1874 or 1868? (moved from main movie page) ==

I have seen this carbine mis-identified ever since this movie came out. Apparently others are just repeating what someone else assumed. It was not an 1874 Sharps carbine, of which only 496 were made. He (like the real Texas rangers, see Durham’s “Taming the Nueces Strip”) is using an 1868 Sharps carbine conversion. .50-70….of which 31,000 were converted. from Percussion to Cartridge and distributed to troops and millitia’s and yes, texas rangers…was in use into the 80s.

If you want a replica of that gun, somebody makes an exact one of McNelly’s which is exactly like the one Matt Damon’s character is using.

bc

:: I can find absolutely NO proof of this statement in the slightest. The 1874 was a popular sporting rifle, and it was produced on a large scale from its induction. -MissySummers-

== Chaney's Henry and sling ==

I just corrected some of the description. In the book, the Henry was NOT stolen from Mattie's father; it is described as Chaney's rifle from the beginning. Also, the book makes special mention of the fact that he uses "a piece of cotton plow line" for a sling. "He could have taken an old piece of harness and made a nice leather strap for it. That would have been too much trouble." - Blokhed, 2/9/11

Is it just me or does the rope obstruck the sights?--[[User:Mattatack92|Mattatack92]] 23:32, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

It does obstruck the sights, but we never actually see him fire from the shoulder in the movie.--[[User:Insight11|Insight11]] 20:43, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

(moved from main page)
[[Image:Tg-henry-2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The poster shows [[Josh Brolin]] as Chaney with the Henry.]]

==Possible identification error==
In this image, it appears Cogburn is holding Mattie's Colt Dragoon. The barrel and frame appear thicker than on a Navy Colt, and the loading lever latch is smaller like a Dragoon, instead of covering the whole front of the loading lever like on a Navy. Also, the all around size of the revolver appears larger than a Navy. In the other shots it does appear he uses Navy Colts, but I think in this scene he may have used Mattie's gun to shoot the corn dodgers with.
[[File:TG10 002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
- [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==True West interview with Prop-man==
Several of the questions we're all wondering about are answered in this article:
http://www.truewestmagazine.com/jcontent/living-the-dream/living-the-dream/firearms/4010-guns-with-true-grit

: Ever since i saw the movie, id been wondering if the guns he carried in his saddle holsters were actually Colt Navies, considering the size and look of the gun felt off. That article makes it clear that the guns ARENT Colt Navy's but Colt Dragoons Second Models. Answers a few questions for sure then.

Should the mainpage be changed to reflect this?

[[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 01:35, 22 November 2012 (EST)

Talk:Fast Five

2012-11-22T06:24:24Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* M-14 */

Vin's shotgun looks more like a Mossberg 590, if you look at the magazine tube and the shape of the trigger guard. It's clearer in the high resolution photo. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:45, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== M134 Minigun ==
Though the weapon is obviously chopped the set up seems to be similar to the one you see in the Dillon Aero publicity videos where one of their miniguns is set up inside a Suburban. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Superbowl Trailer ==

I can't screencap it, but in the trailer they showed during the Super Bowl Hobbs was shown using an M4A1 with an underbarrel M26 SASS [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 05:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

[[Image:Fastfive-UMP-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|That's [[Alimi Ballard]] of [[Numb3rs]] fame with the M4A1/M203 combo with an EOTech sight.]]

== Rock's vest ==
make and model of his tactical vest

(A little Google wouldn't have hurt) Looks to be one of the Blackhawk! S.T.R.I.K.E. models. And sign your posts. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 04:55, 1 May 2011 (CDT)
Google is of no help pas well as some of the military forums I frequent

Another question about the Rock's gear. I can't seem to figure out the make and model of his thigh holster. I have looked around some sites but found nothing that matches.--[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 14:15, 12 May 2011 (CDT)

Is it me or does the vest look like it's on back to front? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:52, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== The SMG identified as a S&W M-76 is actually.. ==
...a Carl Gustav M/45. I updated the page to reflect this information.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 20:46, 7 May 2011 (CDT)

== M-14 ==
During the Ambush of Hobb's convoy, is it just me, or did the M14 seem to be going rock n' roll? I thought I saw full auto muzzle flash from it. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:15, 22 August 2011 (CDT)

:Putting this photo here until I figure out why cropping a picture causes it to turn up distorted on the site --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 20:23, 23 September 2011 (CDT)
[[File:Fastfive-pstill-m14.jpg|thumb|none|499px|]]

::Tadaa! You can make pictures appear correctly by changing the the px by 1 or so. After the picture has updated itself, you can turn it back. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 17:05, 29 September 2011 (CDT)
:::That did the trick. Thanks for the suggestion!--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 19:45, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

::It's possible that the M-14 was going full auto. It was a select-fire rifle. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 17:58, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

How did anyone think the M14 had the Aimpoint Comp M3 and swivel mount 3x magnifier? It's very obviously got a scope of some sort. The agent with the M4/M203 has an EOTech and 3x magnifier, but none of the DSS team have Aimpoint sight.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 10:03, 6 October 2011 (CDT)

:::I dont see a selector switch on this particular gun, maybe it was modified for full auto fire for the movie?

[[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 01:24, 22 November 2012 (EST)

== Possible Ithaca Auto & Burglar? ==

When the crew holds up Reyes first cash house, does the doorman carry an Ithaca Auto & Burglar? I'd get a screen of it, but the shot is rather poorly lit, and i'm terrible at doing screens. [[User:The Kaptain|The Kaptain]] 22:00, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

==M26 MASS==
When exactly does Dwayne Johnson use his MASS in the film? I've watched the movie several times specifically watching for it and I've never seen him fire it, and yet every time I edit this page to reflect that, someone changes it back. Could somebody point the scene out to me? Or better yet, upload an image of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 06:16, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

He uses it when they are in the parking garage during the robbery scene, if my memory is correct. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 16:57, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:That's just it, I looked out for it specifically in that scene, and I didn't see him fire it once. Maybe I'm blind, could somebody upload a screencap of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:26, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
::I request proof of him using it as well. I've watched the movie several times and I sure don't see him using it in the parking garage. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 03:33, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
:::I just watched the film again last night, specifically looking out for Johnson using the M26 in scenes where it appeared, and I didn't see him firing it once. I even viewed the parking garage scene ''twice'' just to be sure. Until someone can upload an image of him actually using it I'm going to change the page to reflect that he never fires it on-screen. (I never heard him firing it off screen either.)--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 03:18, 10 May 2012 (CDT)

== Gisele's "Gangsta" draw ==

As i recall reading, somewhere, i believe it was in Colonel Jeff Cooper's Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip, he talks about how the Israeli's do a "flat" draw, like Gisele does in the movie, apparently done because as we know, the Israeli's, especially Mossad, teach to carry Condition 3, ie, no round in the chamber, and therefore need to rack the slide to ready the gun for combat, and as such decided that it was easier to do so, while drawing the gun flat, with a 90 degree angle.

Not sure if that was the intention of the director but, it seems logical, that she, being former Mossad, is doing as she was trained.

Just a thought
[[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 01:23, 22 November 2012 (EST)

Talk:Fast Five

2012-11-22T06:23:19Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* Gisele's "Gangsta" draw */

Vin's shotgun looks more like a Mossberg 590, if you look at the magazine tube and the shape of the trigger guard. It's clearer in the high resolution photo. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:45, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== M134 Minigun ==
Though the weapon is obviously chopped the set up seems to be similar to the one you see in the Dillon Aero publicity videos where one of their miniguns is set up inside a Suburban. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Superbowl Trailer ==

I can't screencap it, but in the trailer they showed during the Super Bowl Hobbs was shown using an M4A1 with an underbarrel M26 SASS [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 05:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

[[Image:Fastfive-UMP-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|That's [[Alimi Ballard]] of [[Numb3rs]] fame with the M4A1/M203 combo with an EOTech sight.]]

== Rock's vest ==
make and model of his tactical vest

(A little Google wouldn't have hurt) Looks to be one of the Blackhawk! S.T.R.I.K.E. models. And sign your posts. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 04:55, 1 May 2011 (CDT)
Google is of no help pas well as some of the military forums I frequent

Another question about the Rock's gear. I can't seem to figure out the make and model of his thigh holster. I have looked around some sites but found nothing that matches.--[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 14:15, 12 May 2011 (CDT)

Is it me or does the vest look like it's on back to front? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:52, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== The SMG identified as a S&W M-76 is actually.. ==
...a Carl Gustav M/45. I updated the page to reflect this information.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 20:46, 7 May 2011 (CDT)

== M-14 ==
During the Ambush of Hobb's convoy, is it just me, or did the M14 seem to be going rock n' roll? I thought I saw full auto muzzle flash from it. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:15, 22 August 2011 (CDT)

:Putting this photo here until I figure out why cropping a picture causes it to turn up distorted on the site --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 20:23, 23 September 2011 (CDT)
[[File:Fastfive-pstill-m14.jpg|thumb|none|499px|]]

::Tadaa! You can make pictures appear correctly by changing the the px by 1 or so. After the picture has updated itself, you can turn it back. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 17:05, 29 September 2011 (CDT)
:::That did the trick. Thanks for the suggestion!--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 19:45, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

::It's possible that the M-14 was going full auto. It was a select-fire rifle. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 17:58, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

How did anyone think the M14 had the Aimpoint Comp M3 and swivel mount 3x magnifier? It's very obviously got a scope of some sort. The agent with the M4/M203 has an EOTech and 3x magnifier, but none of the DSS team have Aimpoint sight.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 10:03, 6 October 2011 (CDT)

:::I dont see a selector switch on this particular gun, maybe it was modified for full auto fire for the movie?

~Carly Anne~

== Possible Ithaca Auto & Burglar? ==

When the crew holds up Reyes first cash house, does the doorman carry an Ithaca Auto & Burglar? I'd get a screen of it, but the shot is rather poorly lit, and i'm terrible at doing screens. [[User:The Kaptain|The Kaptain]] 22:00, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

==M26 MASS==
When exactly does Dwayne Johnson use his MASS in the film? I've watched the movie several times specifically watching for it and I've never seen him fire it, and yet every time I edit this page to reflect that, someone changes it back. Could somebody point the scene out to me? Or better yet, upload an image of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 06:16, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

He uses it when they are in the parking garage during the robbery scene, if my memory is correct. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 16:57, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:That's just it, I looked out for it specifically in that scene, and I didn't see him fire it once. Maybe I'm blind, could somebody upload a screencap of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:26, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
::I request proof of him using it as well. I've watched the movie several times and I sure don't see him using it in the parking garage. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 03:33, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
:::I just watched the film again last night, specifically looking out for Johnson using the M26 in scenes where it appeared, and I didn't see him firing it once. I even viewed the parking garage scene ''twice'' just to be sure. Until someone can upload an image of him actually using it I'm going to change the page to reflect that he never fires it on-screen. (I never heard him firing it off screen either.)--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 03:18, 10 May 2012 (CDT)

== Gisele's "Gangsta" draw ==

As i recall reading, somewhere, i believe it was in Colonel Jeff Cooper's Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip, he talks about how the Israeli's do a "flat" draw, like Gisele does in the movie, apparently done because as we know, the Israeli's, especially Mossad, teach to carry Condition 3, ie, no round in the chamber, and therefore need to rack the slide to ready the gun for combat, and as such decided that it was easier to do so, while drawing the gun flat, with a 90 degree angle.

Not sure if that was the intention of the director but, it seems logical, that she, being former Mossad, is doing as she was trained.

Just a thought
[[User:CarlyAnneSummers|~CarlyAnne~]] ([[User talk:CarlyAnneSummers|talk]]) 01:23, 22 November 2012 (EST)

Talk:Fast Five

2012-11-22T06:20:34Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* M-14 */

Vin's shotgun looks more like a Mossberg 590, if you look at the magazine tube and the shape of the trigger guard. It's clearer in the high resolution photo. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:45, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== M134 Minigun ==
Though the weapon is obviously chopped the set up seems to be similar to the one you see in the Dillon Aero publicity videos where one of their miniguns is set up inside a Suburban. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Superbowl Trailer ==

I can't screencap it, but in the trailer they showed during the Super Bowl Hobbs was shown using an M4A1 with an underbarrel M26 SASS [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 05:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

[[Image:Fastfive-UMP-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|That's [[Alimi Ballard]] of [[Numb3rs]] fame with the M4A1/M203 combo with an EOTech sight.]]

== Rock's vest ==
make and model of his tactical vest

(A little Google wouldn't have hurt) Looks to be one of the Blackhawk! S.T.R.I.K.E. models. And sign your posts. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 04:55, 1 May 2011 (CDT)
Google is of no help pas well as some of the military forums I frequent

Another question about the Rock's gear. I can't seem to figure out the make and model of his thigh holster. I have looked around some sites but found nothing that matches.--[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 14:15, 12 May 2011 (CDT)

Is it me or does the vest look like it's on back to front? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:52, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== The SMG identified as a S&W M-76 is actually.. ==
...a Carl Gustav M/45. I updated the page to reflect this information.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 20:46, 7 May 2011 (CDT)

== M-14 ==
During the Ambush of Hobb's convoy, is it just me, or did the M14 seem to be going rock n' roll? I thought I saw full auto muzzle flash from it. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:15, 22 August 2011 (CDT)

:Putting this photo here until I figure out why cropping a picture causes it to turn up distorted on the site --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 20:23, 23 September 2011 (CDT)
[[File:Fastfive-pstill-m14.jpg|thumb|none|499px|]]

::Tadaa! You can make pictures appear correctly by changing the the px by 1 or so. After the picture has updated itself, you can turn it back. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 17:05, 29 September 2011 (CDT)
:::That did the trick. Thanks for the suggestion!--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 19:45, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

::It's possible that the M-14 was going full auto. It was a select-fire rifle. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 17:58, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

How did anyone think the M14 had the Aimpoint Comp M3 and swivel mount 3x magnifier? It's very obviously got a scope of some sort. The agent with the M4/M203 has an EOTech and 3x magnifier, but none of the DSS team have Aimpoint sight.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 10:03, 6 October 2011 (CDT)

:::I dont see a selector switch on this particular gun, maybe it was modified for full auto fire for the movie?

~Carly Anne~

== Possible Ithaca Auto & Burglar? ==

When the crew holds up Reyes first cash house, does the doorman carry an Ithaca Auto & Burglar? I'd get a screen of it, but the shot is rather poorly lit, and i'm terrible at doing screens. [[User:The Kaptain|The Kaptain]] 22:00, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

==M26 MASS==
When exactly does Dwayne Johnson use his MASS in the film? I've watched the movie several times specifically watching for it and I've never seen him fire it, and yet every time I edit this page to reflect that, someone changes it back. Could somebody point the scene out to me? Or better yet, upload an image of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 06:16, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

He uses it when they are in the parking garage during the robbery scene, if my memory is correct. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 16:57, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:That's just it, I looked out for it specifically in that scene, and I didn't see him fire it once. Maybe I'm blind, could somebody upload a screencap of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:26, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
::I request proof of him using it as well. I've watched the movie several times and I sure don't see him using it in the parking garage. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 03:33, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
:::I just watched the film again last night, specifically looking out for Johnson using the M26 in scenes where it appeared, and I didn't see him firing it once. I even viewed the parking garage scene ''twice'' just to be sure. Until someone can upload an image of him actually using it I'm going to change the page to reflect that he never fires it on-screen. (I never heard him firing it off screen either.)--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 03:18, 10 May 2012 (CDT)

== Gisele's "Gangsta" draw ==

As i recall reading, somewhere, i believe it was in Colonel Jeff Cooper's Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip, he talks about how the Israeli's do a "flat" draw, like Gisele does in the movie, apparently done because as we know, the Israeli's, especially Mossad, teach to carry Condition 3, ie, no round in the chamber, and therefore need to rack the slide to ready the gun for combat, and as such decided that it was easier to do so, while drawing the gun flat, with a 90 degree angle.

Not sure if that was the intention of the director but, it seems logical, that she, being former Mossad, is doing as she was trained.

Just a thought

~Carly Anne~

Talk:Fast Five

2012-11-22T06:18:57Z

CarlyAnneSummers: /* Gisele's "Gangsta" draw */ new section

Vin's shotgun looks more like a Mossberg 590, if you look at the magazine tube and the shape of the trigger guard. It's clearer in the high resolution photo. [[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]] 09:45, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== M134 Minigun ==
Though the weapon is obviously chopped the set up seems to be similar to the one you see in the Dillon Aero publicity videos where one of their miniguns is set up inside a Suburban. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Superbowl Trailer ==

I can't screencap it, but in the trailer they showed during the Super Bowl Hobbs was shown using an M4A1 with an underbarrel M26 SASS [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 05:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

[[Image:Fastfive-UMP-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|That's [[Alimi Ballard]] of [[Numb3rs]] fame with the M4A1/M203 combo with an EOTech sight.]]

== Rock's vest ==
make and model of his tactical vest

(A little Google wouldn't have hurt) Looks to be one of the Blackhawk! S.T.R.I.K.E. models. And sign your posts. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 04:55, 1 May 2011 (CDT)
Google is of no help pas well as some of the military forums I frequent

Another question about the Rock's gear. I can't seem to figure out the make and model of his thigh holster. I have looked around some sites but found nothing that matches.--[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 14:15, 12 May 2011 (CDT)

Is it me or does the vest look like it's on back to front? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:52, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== The SMG identified as a S&W M-76 is actually.. ==
...a Carl Gustav M/45. I updated the page to reflect this information.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 20:46, 7 May 2011 (CDT)

== M-14 ==
During the Ambush of Hobb's convoy, is it just me, or did the M14 seem to be going rock n' roll? I thought I saw full auto muzzle flash from it. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:15, 22 August 2011 (CDT)

:Putting this photo here until I figure out why cropping a picture causes it to turn up distorted on the site --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 20:23, 23 September 2011 (CDT)
[[File:Fastfive-pstill-m14.jpg|thumb|none|499px|]]

::Tadaa! You can make pictures appear correctly by changing the the px by 1 or so. After the picture has updated itself, you can turn it back. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 17:05, 29 September 2011 (CDT)
:::That did the trick. Thanks for the suggestion!--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 19:45, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

::It's possible that the M-14 was going full auto. It was a select-fire rifle. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 17:58, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

How did anyone think the M14 had the Aimpoint Comp M3 and swivel mount 3x magnifier? It's very obviously got a scope of some sort. The agent with the M4/M203 has an EOTech and 3x magnifier, but none of the DSS team have Aimpoint sight.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 10:03, 6 October 2011 (CDT)

== Possible Ithaca Auto & Burglar? ==

When the crew holds up Reyes first cash house, does the doorman carry an Ithaca Auto & Burglar? I'd get a screen of it, but the shot is rather poorly lit, and i'm terrible at doing screens. [[User:The Kaptain|The Kaptain]] 22:00, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

==M26 MASS==
When exactly does Dwayne Johnson use his MASS in the film? I've watched the movie several times specifically watching for it and I've never seen him fire it, and yet every time I edit this page to reflect that, someone changes it back. Could somebody point the scene out to me? Or better yet, upload an image of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 06:16, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

He uses it when they are in the parking garage during the robbery scene, if my memory is correct. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 16:57, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

:That's just it, I looked out for it specifically in that scene, and I didn't see him fire it once. Maybe I'm blind, could somebody upload a screencap of him actually using it?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:26, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
::I request proof of him using it as well. I've watched the movie several times and I sure don't see him using it in the parking garage. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 03:33, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
:::I just watched the film again last night, specifically looking out for Johnson using the M26 in scenes where it appeared, and I didn't see him firing it once. I even viewed the parking garage scene ''twice'' just to be sure. Until someone can upload an image of him actually using it I'm going to change the page to reflect that he never fires it on-screen. (I never heard him firing it off screen either.)--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 03:18, 10 May 2012 (CDT)

== Gisele's "Gangsta" draw ==

As i recall reading, somewhere, i believe it was in Colonel Jeff Cooper's Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip, he talks about how the Israeli's do a "flat" draw, like Gisele does in the movie, apparently done because as we know, the Israeli's, especially Mossad, teach to carry Condition 3, ie, no round in the chamber, and therefore need to rack the slide to ready the gun for combat, and as such decided that it was easier to do so, while drawing the gun flat, with a 90 degree angle.

Not sure if that was the intention of the director but, it seems logical, that she, being former Mossad, is doing as she was trained.

Just a thought

~Carly Anne~