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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005374</id>
		<title>Talk:The Expanse</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T15:18:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: /* Antagonists' weapons */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== SL8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I'm pretty sure it's an SL8 going by the thumbhole stock, but that could be a future-ish addition to a regular G36. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on the double stack magazine well (Canadian filmed?) and short rail, I would call these SL8-4s.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:27, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unidentified rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I have no idea what this bullpup rifle is based on, if anything. It seems odd to me that they would build a prop from scratch and make it so.. conventional.. so following logic it is probably a dressed-up bullpup rifle of some sort. But which? It reminds me most of a Tavor, but if it is one, it is quite heavily dressed up. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering that The Expanse series (the books atleast) are ''fairly'' realistic, i wouldn't say it's so strange that they made the weapon look rather conventional (although there's doesn't appear to be any type of sight on it, unless that orange thing is the sight) Anyhow, parts of it kinds reminds me an SA80--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is an airsoft rifle called a APS UAR:[[File:APS UAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|APS UAR (Urban Assault Rifle) airsoft gun]]These were previously used in another SyFy series that I can't remember the name of and doesn't have a page on here yet. As this isn't a real gun, I will make a section for it on the [[Air Guns]] page.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:24, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Used in both Dark Matter and Killjoys.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me, I have the last couple of episodes of [[Killjoys]] sitting on my computer waiting to be capped. Where I am up to though, (episode 7) I didn't notice any, are they in one of the later episodes or did I miss it?--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:14, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're mostly background props compared to the Tavors whilst in Dark Matter they're used more often.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XO's gun closet ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.XOs guncollection.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of random guns here, I'm not going to bother since (spoilers, heh) the ship they were on was blown up along with the character in the first episode. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Even if they are one-offs they should be included on the main page, as they still appeared in the show. As for what they are, the bottom revolver is a Colt Python, the pistol in the middle is an Umarex blank fire replcia of a Walther P88C, not sure about the top revolver though. As for the longs, one on the left is a double barrelled coach gun, other two are lever actions. My guess would be Winchester Model 1873 saddle ring carbines.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:41, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== bullet velocity ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While this is from the second book, i might as well ask here. In that book, in the very beginning when Bob and her crew gets owned by that protowhatever thing, she says something about firing her AR with rounds going something around 1000 m/s. I always thought that was kinda strange since there's nothing special about that velocity, especially since they're on one of Mars moons where there's no air and the gravity pull isn't as strong. Shouldn't those rounds go faster?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:12, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was Ganymede, a moon of Jupiter.  Gravity and drag have very little to do with initial muzzle velocity.--[[User:signal11|signal11]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Thomas Jane? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the new series starring former Punisher [[Thomas Jane]]?. And, if so, is it any good? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 11:39, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:While i haven't watched the show, the first book is really good so i hope this is too, then again, the first trailer looked kinda meh, and it also had Avasarala in it for some reason.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 12:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I watched the first episode, but didn't care for it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:50, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::On the other hand, I think this show absolutely amazing. A must watch in my book. 10/10. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 14:58, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How similar is it to the first book? Avasarala (i think that's how you spell it) is in this season, but she wasn't in the first book, so it seems like they're doing something different from, well, the books.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:07, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miller's Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here's some shots of Detective Miller's sidearm that he loots after the hotel lobby scene. I think a Rhino? Some more sure than I feel free to add to the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot; heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-side.jpg|As he's shooting open a cabinet&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-cylinder.jpg|Checking...some sort of space ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-badguy-revolver.jpg|The original owner, but he ended up not needing it anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:40, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, pretty sure its the Rino. And are those Kriss Vectors seen during the hotel lobby shootout?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 22:33, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== MCRN(?) sidearms used by Holden's crew ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Holden and crew seem to use similar sidearms, maybe ones they raided from the Rocinante (formerly MCRN Tachi) armory?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot; widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg|Holden ducking for cover &lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-amos-rocisidearm.jpg|Amos ducking for cover&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-holden-sidearm-threequarter.jpg|Holden ducking under a gambling machine...not 100% sure this is the same gun, it seems like he looted one off a &amp;quot;cop&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-mcrnpatrol-sidearm.jpg|Also used by MCRN patrols&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:49, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:These look like the XD(M)s already mentioned on the page. Might as well add the screens. I didn't even realize those were XDs when I first watched the show. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 00:17, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Antagonists' weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone have a shot of the weapons that are used by the mystery antagonists? They have at least two weapons, one is a grenade launcher which looks like some kind of standalone launcher ( bit like a B&amp;amp;T but it isn't one) with an additional FN EGLM mounted upside down on top of it, whilst the other is seen only very briefly when they board the MCRN capital ship, but it looks like some kind of mocked up energy weapon or taser type thing.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:03, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Here's some shots of the rifle [[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 10:18, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot; widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-donnagerboarders-rifle.jpg|Picking up the rifle&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-donnagerboarders-rifle2.jpg|Holding it point blank at the boarder&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-donnagerboarders-rifle2.jpg&amp;diff=1005373</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-donnagerboarders-rifle2.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T15:17:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: The Expanse, Episode 4. Holden threatens a boarder with his own rifle.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 4. Holden threatens a boarder with his own rifle.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-donnagerboarders-rifle.jpg&amp;diff=1005372</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-donnagerboarders-rifle.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T15:16:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: The Expanse, Episode 4. Holden picks up a rifle dropped by the Donnager's boarders.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 4. Holden picks up a rifle dropped by the Donnager's boarders.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005291</id>
		<title>Talk:The Expanse</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005291"/>
		<updated>2016-02-22T04:19:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: add another image&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== SL8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I'm pretty sure it's an SL8 going by the thumbhole stock, but that could be a future-ish addition to a regular G36. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on the double stack magazine well (Canadian filmed?) and short rail, I would call these SL8-4s.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:27, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unidentified rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I have no idea what this bullpup rifle is based on, if anything. It seems odd to me that they would build a prop from scratch and make it so.. conventional.. so following logic it is probably a dressed-up bullpup rifle of some sort. But which? It reminds me most of a Tavor, but if it is one, it is quite heavily dressed up. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering that The Expanse series (the books atleast) are ''fairly'' realistic, i wouldn't say it's so strange that they made the weapon look rather conventional (although there's doesn't appear to be any type of sight on it, unless that orange thing is the sight) Anyhow, parts of it kinds reminds me an SA80--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is an airsoft rifle called a APS UAR:[[File:APS UAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|APS UAR (Urban Assault Rifle) airsoft gun]]These were previously used in another SyFy series that I can't remember the name of and doesn't have a page on here yet. As this isn't a real gun, I will make a section for it on the [[Air Guns]] page.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:24, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Used in both Dark Matter and Killjoys.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me, I have the last couple of episodes of [[Killjoys]] sitting on my computer waiting to be capped. Where I am up to though, (episode 7) I didn't notice any, are they in one of the later episodes or did I miss it?--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:14, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're mostly background props compared to the Tavors whilst in Dark Matter they're used more often.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XO's gun closet ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.XOs guncollection.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of random guns here, I'm not going to bother since (spoilers, heh) the ship they were on was blown up along with the character in the first episode. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Even if they are one-offs they should be included on the main page, as they still appeared in the show. As for what they are, the bottom revolver is a Colt Python, the pistol in the middle is an Umarex blank fire replcia of a Walther P88C, not sure about the top revolver though. As for the longs, one on the left is a double barrelled coach gun, other two are lever actions. My guess would be Winchester Model 1873 saddle ring carbines.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:41, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== bullet velocity ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While this is from the second book, i might as well ask here. In that book, in the very beginning when Bob and her crew gets owned by that protowhatever thing, she says something about firing her AR with rounds going something around 1000 m/s. I always thought that was kinda strange since there's nothing special about that velocity, especially since they're on one of Mars moons where there's no air and the gravity pull isn't as strong. Shouldn't those rounds go faster?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:12, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was Ganymede, a moon of Jupiter.  Gravity and drag have very little to do with initial muzzle velocity.--[[User:signal11|signal11]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Thomas Jane? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the new series starring former Punisher [[Thomas Jane]]?. And, if so, is it any good? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 11:39, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:While i haven't watched the show, the first book is really good so i hope this is too, then again, the first trailer looked kinda meh, and it also had Avasarala in it for some reason.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 12:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I watched the first episode, but didn't care for it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:50, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::On the other hand, I think this show absolutely amazing. A must watch in my book. 10/10. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 14:58, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How similar is it to the first book? Avasarala (i think that's how you spell it) is in this season, but she wasn't in the first book, so it seems like they're doing something different from, well, the books.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:07, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miller's Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here's some shots of Detective Miller's sidearm that he loots after the hotel lobby scene. I think a Rhino? Some more sure than I feel free to add to the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot; heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-side.jpg|As he's shooting open a cabinet&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-cylinder.jpg|Checking...some sort of space ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-badguy-revolver.jpg|The original owner, but he ended up not needing it anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:40, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, pretty sure its the Rino. And are those Kriss Vectors seen during the hotel lobby shootout?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 22:33, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== MCRN(?) sidearms used by Holden's crew ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Holden and crew seem to use similar sidearms, maybe ones they raided from the Rocinante (formerly MCRN Tachi) armory?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot; widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg|Holden ducking for cover &lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-amos-rocisidearm.jpg|Amos ducking for cover&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-holden-sidearm-threequarter.jpg|Holden ducking under a gambling machine...not 100% sure this is the same gun, it seems like he looted one off a &amp;quot;cop&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-mcrnpatrol-sidearm.jpg|Also used by MCRN patrols&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:49, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-mcrnpatrol-sidearm.jpg&amp;diff=1005290</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-mcrnpatrol-sidearm.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T04:18:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: The Expanse, Episode 6&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 6&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;diff=1005283</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T04:09:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: Calvin235 uploaded a new version of &amp;amp;quot;File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;amp;quot;: Reverted to version as of 03:52, 22 February 2016&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005282</id>
		<title>Talk:The Expanse</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005282"/>
		<updated>2016-02-22T03:56:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: /* Miller's Revolver */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== SL8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I'm pretty sure it's an SL8 going by the thumbhole stock, but that could be a future-ish addition to a regular G36. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on the double stack magazine well (Canadian filmed?) and short rail, I would call these SL8-4s.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:27, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unidentified rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I have no idea what this bullpup rifle is based on, if anything. It seems odd to me that they would build a prop from scratch and make it so.. conventional.. so following logic it is probably a dressed-up bullpup rifle of some sort. But which? It reminds me most of a Tavor, but if it is one, it is quite heavily dressed up. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering that The Expanse series (the books atleast) are ''fairly'' realistic, i wouldn't say it's so strange that they made the weapon look rather conventional (although there's doesn't appear to be any type of sight on it, unless that orange thing is the sight) Anyhow, parts of it kinds reminds me an SA80--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is an airsoft rifle called a APS UAR:[[File:APS UAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|APS UAR (Urban Assault Rifle) airsoft gun]]These were previously used in another SyFy series that I can't remember the name of and doesn't have a page on here yet. As this isn't a real gun, I will make a section for it on the [[Air Guns]] page.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:24, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Used in both Dark Matter and Killjoys.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me, I have the last couple of episodes of [[Killjoys]] sitting on my computer waiting to be capped. Where I am up to though, (episode 7) I didn't notice any, are they in one of the later episodes or did I miss it?--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:14, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're mostly background props compared to the Tavors whilst in Dark Matter they're used more often.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XO's gun closet ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.XOs guncollection.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of random guns here, I'm not going to bother since (spoilers, heh) the ship they were on was blown up along with the character in the first episode. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Even if they are one-offs they should be included on the main page, as they still appeared in the show. As for what they are, the bottom revolver is a Colt Python, the pistol in the middle is an Umarex blank fire replcia of a Walther P88C, not sure about the top revolver though. As for the longs, one on the left is a double barrelled coach gun, other two are lever actions. My guess would be Winchester Model 1873 saddle ring carbines.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:41, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== bullet velocity ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While this is from the second book, i might as well ask here. In that book, in the very beginning when Bob and her crew gets owned by that protowhatever thing, she says something about firing her AR with rounds going something around 1000 m/s. I always thought that was kinda strange since there's nothing special about that velocity, especially since they're on one of Mars moons where there's no air and the gravity pull isn't as strong. Shouldn't those rounds go faster?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:12, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was Ganymede, a moon of Jupiter.  Gravity and drag have very little to do with initial muzzle velocity.--[[User:signal11|signal11]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Thomas Jane? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the new series starring former Punisher [[Thomas Jane]]?. And, if so, is it any good? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 11:39, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:While i haven't watched the show, the first book is really good so i hope this is too, then again, the first trailer looked kinda meh, and it also had Avasarala in it for some reason.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 12:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I watched the first episode, but didn't care for it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:50, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::On the other hand, I think this show absolutely amazing. A must watch in my book. 10/10. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 14:58, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How similar is it to the first book? Avasarala (i think that's how you spell it) is in this season, but she wasn't in the first book, so it seems like they're doing something different from, well, the books.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:07, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miller's Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here's some shots of Detective Miller's sidearm that he loots after the hotel lobby scene. I think a Rhino? Some more sure than I feel free to add to the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot; heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-side.jpg|As he's shooting open a cabinet&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-cylinder.jpg|Checking...some sort of space ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-badguy-revolver.jpg|The original owner, but he ended up not needing it anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:40, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, pretty sure its the Rino. And are those Kriss Vectors seen during the hotel lobby shootout?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 22:33, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== MCRN(?) sidearms used by Holden's crew ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Holden and crew seem to use similar sidearms, maybe ones they raided from the Rocinante (formerly MCRN Tachi) armory?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot; widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg|Holden ducking for cover &lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-amos-rocisidearm.jpg|Amos ducking for cover&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-holden-sidearm-threequarter.jpg|Holden ducking under a gambling machine...not 100% sure this is the same gun, it seems like he looted one off a &amp;quot;cop&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:49, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;diff=1005281</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;diff=1005281"/>
		<updated>2016-02-22T03:52:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: Calvin235 uploaded a new version of &amp;amp;quot;File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;diff=1005280</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: Calvin235 uploaded a new version of &amp;amp;quot;File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005277</id>
		<title>Talk:The Expanse</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005277"/>
		<updated>2016-02-22T03:49:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: /* MCRN(?) sidearms used by Holden's crew */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== SL8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I'm pretty sure it's an SL8 going by the thumbhole stock, but that could be a future-ish addition to a regular G36. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on the double stack magazine well (Canadian filmed?) and short rail, I would call these SL8-4s.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:27, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unidentified rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I have no idea what this bullpup rifle is based on, if anything. It seems odd to me that they would build a prop from scratch and make it so.. conventional.. so following logic it is probably a dressed-up bullpup rifle of some sort. But which? It reminds me most of a Tavor, but if it is one, it is quite heavily dressed up. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering that The Expanse series (the books atleast) are ''fairly'' realistic, i wouldn't say it's so strange that they made the weapon look rather conventional (although there's doesn't appear to be any type of sight on it, unless that orange thing is the sight) Anyhow, parts of it kinds reminds me an SA80--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is an airsoft rifle called a APS UAR:[[File:APS UAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|APS UAR (Urban Assault Rifle) airsoft gun]]These were previously used in another SyFy series that I can't remember the name of and doesn't have a page on here yet. As this isn't a real gun, I will make a section for it on the [[Air Guns]] page.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:24, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Used in both Dark Matter and Killjoys.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me, I have the last couple of episodes of [[Killjoys]] sitting on my computer waiting to be capped. Where I am up to though, (episode 7) I didn't notice any, are they in one of the later episodes or did I miss it?--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:14, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're mostly background props compared to the Tavors whilst in Dark Matter they're used more often.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XO's gun closet ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.XOs guncollection.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of random guns here, I'm not going to bother since (spoilers, heh) the ship they were on was blown up along with the character in the first episode. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Even if they are one-offs they should be included on the main page, as they still appeared in the show. As for what they are, the bottom revolver is a Colt Python, the pistol in the middle is an Umarex blank fire replcia of a Walther P88C, not sure about the top revolver though. As for the longs, one on the left is a double barrelled coach gun, other two are lever actions. My guess would be Winchester Model 1873 saddle ring carbines.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:41, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== bullet velocity ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While this is from the second book, i might as well ask here. In that book, in the very beginning when Bob and her crew gets owned by that protowhatever thing, she says something about firing her AR with rounds going something around 1000 m/s. I always thought that was kinda strange since there's nothing special about that velocity, especially since they're on one of Mars moons where there's no air and the gravity pull isn't as strong. Shouldn't those rounds go faster?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:12, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was Ganymede, a moon of Jupiter.  Gravity and drag have very little to do with initial muzzle velocity.--[[User:signal11|signal11]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Thomas Jane? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the new series starring former Punisher [[Thomas Jane]]?. And, if so, is it any good? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 11:39, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:While i haven't watched the show, the first book is really good so i hope this is too, then again, the first trailer looked kinda meh, and it also had Avasarala in it for some reason.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 12:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I watched the first episode, but didn't care for it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:50, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::On the other hand, I think this show absolutely amazing. A must watch in my book. 10/10. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 14:58, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How similar is it to the first book? Avasarala (i think that's how you spell it) is in this season, but she wasn't in the first book, so it seems like they're doing something different from, well, the books.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:07, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miller's Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here's some shots of Detective Miller's sidearm. I think a Rhino? Some more sure than I feel free to add to the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot; heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-side.jpg|As he's shooting open a cabinet&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-cylinder.jpg|Checking...some sort of space ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-badguy-revolver.jpg|Also used in &amp;quot;random street violence on Eros&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:40, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, pretty sure its the Rino. And are those Kriss Vectors seen during the hotel lobby shootout?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 22:33, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== MCRN(?) sidearms used by Holden's crew ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Holden and crew seem to use similar sidearms, maybe ones they raided from the Rocinante (formerly MCRN Tachi) armory?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot; widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg|Holden ducking for cover &lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-amos-rocisidearm.jpg|Amos ducking for cover&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-holden-sidearm-threequarter.jpg|Holden ducking under a gambling machine...not 100% sure this is the same gun, it seems like he looted one off a &amp;quot;cop&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:49, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;diff=1005275</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-holden-rocisidearm.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T03:46:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-amos-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;diff=1005274</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-amos-rocisidearm.jpg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-amos-rocisidearm.jpg&amp;diff=1005274"/>
		<updated>2016-02-22T03:46:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-holden-sidearm-threequarter.jpg&amp;diff=1005272</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-holden-sidearm-threequarter.jpg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-holden-sidearm-threequarter.jpg&amp;diff=1005272"/>
		<updated>2016-02-22T03:44:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: The Expanse, Episode 10.

Not 100% sure if this is the same gun he had originally when getting to Eros (or if looted from a &amp;quot;cop&amp;quot;/PMC)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 10.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not 100% sure if this is the same gun he had originally when getting to Eros (or if looted from a &amp;quot;cop&amp;quot;/PMC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-badguy-handgun.jpg&amp;diff=1005270</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-badguy-handgun.jpg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-badguy-handgun.jpg&amp;diff=1005270"/>
		<updated>2016-02-22T03:43:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 8, Hotel Lobby&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005266</id>
		<title>Talk:The Expanse</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005266"/>
		<updated>2016-02-22T03:40:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: /* Miller's Revolver */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== SL8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I'm pretty sure it's an SL8 going by the thumbhole stock, but that could be a future-ish addition to a regular G36. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on the double stack magazine well (Canadian filmed?) and short rail, I would call these SL8-4s.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:27, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unidentified rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I have no idea what this bullpup rifle is based on, if anything. It seems odd to me that they would build a prop from scratch and make it so.. conventional.. so following logic it is probably a dressed-up bullpup rifle of some sort. But which? It reminds me most of a Tavor, but if it is one, it is quite heavily dressed up. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering that The Expanse series (the books atleast) are ''fairly'' realistic, i wouldn't say it's so strange that they made the weapon look rather conventional (although there's doesn't appear to be any type of sight on it, unless that orange thing is the sight) Anyhow, parts of it kinds reminds me an SA80--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is an airsoft rifle called a APS UAR:[[File:APS UAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|APS UAR (Urban Assault Rifle) airsoft gun]]These were previously used in another SyFy series that I can't remember the name of and doesn't have a page on here yet. As this isn't a real gun, I will make a section for it on the [[Air Guns]] page.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:24, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Used in both Dark Matter and Killjoys.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me, I have the last couple of episodes of [[Killjoys]] sitting on my computer waiting to be capped. Where I am up to though, (episode 7) I didn't notice any, are they in one of the later episodes or did I miss it?--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:14, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're mostly background props compared to the Tavors whilst in Dark Matter they're used more often.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XO's gun closet ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.XOs guncollection.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of random guns here, I'm not going to bother since (spoilers, heh) the ship they were on was blown up along with the character in the first episode. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Even if they are one-offs they should be included on the main page, as they still appeared in the show. As for what they are, the bottom revolver is a Colt Python, the pistol in the middle is an Umarex blank fire replcia of a Walther P88C, not sure about the top revolver though. As for the longs, one on the left is a double barrelled coach gun, other two are lever actions. My guess would be Winchester Model 1873 saddle ring carbines.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:41, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== bullet velocity ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While this is from the second book, i might as well ask here. In that book, in the very beginning when Bob and her crew gets owned by that protowhatever thing, she says something about firing her AR with rounds going something around 1000 m/s. I always thought that was kinda strange since there's nothing special about that velocity, especially since they're on one of Mars moons where there's no air and the gravity pull isn't as strong. Shouldn't those rounds go faster?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:12, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was Ganymede, a moon of Jupiter.  Gravity and drag have very little to do with initial muzzle velocity.--[[User:signal11|signal11]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thomas Jane? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the new series starring former Punisher [[Thomas Jane]]?. And, if so, is it any good? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 11:39, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:While i haven't watched the show, the first book is really good so i hope this is too, then again, the first trailer looked kinda meh, and it also had Avasarala in it for some reason.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 12:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I watched the first episode, but didn't care for it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:50, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::On the other hand, I think this show absolutely amazing. A must watch in my book. 10/10. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 14:58, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How similar is it to the first book? Avasarala (i think that's how you spell it) is in this season, but she wasn't in the first book, so it seems like they're doing something different from, well, the books.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:07, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miller's Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here's some shots of Detective Miller's sidearm. I think a Rhino? Some more sure than I feel free to add to the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot; heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-side.jpg|As he's shooting open a cabinet&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-cylinder.jpg|Checking...some sort of space ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-badguy-revolver.jpg|Also used in &amp;quot;random street violence on Eros&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Calvin235|Calvin235]] ([[User talk:Calvin235|talk]]) 22:40, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, pretty sure its the Rino. And are those Kriss Vectors seen during the hotel lobby shootout?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 22:33, 21 February 2016 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-badguy-revolver.jpg&amp;diff=1005265</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-badguy-revolver.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T03:39:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: The Expanse, Episode 8&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Expanse, Episode 8&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Expanse&amp;diff=1005240</id>
		<title>Talk:The Expanse</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T03:18:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: /* Miller's Revolver */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== SL8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.SL8 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I'm pretty sure it's an SL8 going by the thumbhole stock, but that could be a future-ish addition to a regular G36. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on the double stack magazine well (Canadian filmed?) and short rail, I would call these SL8-4s.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:27, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unidentified rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E04.MCRN rifle 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
I have no idea what this bullpup rifle is based on, if anything. It seems odd to me that they would build a prop from scratch and make it so.. conventional.. so following logic it is probably a dressed-up bullpup rifle of some sort. But which? It reminds me most of a Tavor, but if it is one, it is quite heavily dressed up. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering that The Expanse series (the books atleast) are ''fairly'' realistic, i wouldn't say it's so strange that they made the weapon look rather conventional (although there's doesn't appear to be any type of sight on it, unless that orange thing is the sight) Anyhow, parts of it kinds reminds me an SA80--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is an airsoft rifle called a APS UAR:[[File:APS UAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|APS UAR (Urban Assault Rifle) airsoft gun]]These were previously used in another SyFy series that I can't remember the name of and doesn't have a page on here yet. As this isn't a real gun, I will make a section for it on the [[Air Guns]] page.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:24, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Used in both Dark Matter and Killjoys.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
::::That reminds me, I have the last couple of episodes of [[Killjoys]] sitting on my computer waiting to be capped. Where I am up to though, (episode 7) I didn't notice any, are they in one of the later episodes or did I miss it?--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:14, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're mostly background props compared to the Tavors whilst in Dark Matter they're used more often.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XO's gun closet ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The.Expanse.S01E01.XOs guncollection.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of random guns here, I'm not going to bother since (spoilers, heh) the ship they were on was blown up along with the character in the first episode. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] ([[User talk:Joffeloff|talk]]) 09:26, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Even if they are one-offs they should be included on the main page, as they still appeared in the show. As for what they are, the bottom revolver is a Colt Python, the pistol in the middle is an Umarex blank fire replcia of a Walther P88C, not sure about the top revolver though. As for the longs, one on the left is a double barrelled coach gun, other two are lever actions. My guess would be Winchester Model 1873 saddle ring carbines.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:41, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== bullet velocity ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While this is from the second book, i might as well ask here. In that book, in the very beginning when Bob and her crew gets owned by that protowhatever thing, she says something about firing her AR with rounds going something around 1000 m/s. I always thought that was kinda strange since there's nothing special about that velocity, especially since they're on one of Mars moons where there's no air and the gravity pull isn't as strong. Shouldn't those rounds go faster?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 10:12, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was Ganymede, a moon of Jupiter.  Gravity and drag have very little to do with initial muzzle velocity.--[[User:signal11|signal11]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Thomas Jane? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the new series starring former Punisher [[Thomas Jane]]?. And, if so, is it any good? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 11:39, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:While i haven't watched the show, the first book is really good so i hope this is too, then again, the first trailer looked kinda meh, and it also had Avasarala in it for some reason.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 12:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I watched the first episode, but didn't care for it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:50, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::On the other hand, I think this show absolutely amazing. A must watch in my book. 10/10. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 14:58, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How similar is it to the first book? Avasarala (i think that's how you spell it) is in this season, but she wasn't in the first book, so it seems like they're doing something different from, well, the books.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:07, 20 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miller's Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here's some shots of Detective Miller's sidearm. I think a Rhino? Some more sure than I feel free to add to the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot; heights=&amp;quot;300px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-side.jpg|As he's shooting open a cabinet&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Expanse-miller-revolver-cylinder.jpg|Checking...some sort of space ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>File:Expanse-miller-revolver-cylinder.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T03:14:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: From The Expanse, Episode 10&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;From The Expanse, Episode 10&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Expanse-miller-revolver-side.jpg&amp;diff=1005237</id>
		<title>File:Expanse-miller-revolver-side.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-22T03:13:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Calvin235: From The Expanse, Episode 10.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;From The Expanse, Episode 10.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Calvin235</name></author>
	</entry>
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