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Talk:Jackie Chan

2016-01-03T08:52:34Z

Btgr: /* Jackie and Firearms */

{{Director Title}}

<gallery>
File:Police-story.jpg| ''[[Police Story (1985)]]''
Armor of God poster.jpg|''[[Armour of God]]'' (1986)
Police-story-2.jpg| ''[[Police Story 2]]'' (1988)
Image:AOG2.jpg|''[[Armour of God II: Operation Condor]]'' (1991)
File:WhoamI.jpg|''[[Who Am I?]]'' (1998) co-director
1911 poster.jpg|''[[1911 (2011)]]'' co-director
</gallery>

=Discussion=
[[Image:JackieChanMinigun.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Jackie Chan with a Minigun in an unknown movie.]]

::I believe the image is from one of Chan's early American movies, a 1985 film called ''[[Protector, The]]'' ([http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089847/]). Also, in the film the weapon is stated as being a portable, six-shot 20mm cannon and not a minigun. Most likely a purely fictional weapon. The film is rather sub-par by Jackie Chan's usual standards but is still worth a watch.
:::-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::That scene IS from The Protector, and to recall what the gun was known as, "WTF is that? I got that from an Israeli friend of mine. That's a portable 6-shot 20MM cannon. It is never held by Jackie on-screen, but it is in the promotional images. Although in the film, it is used and held by Danny Aiello, as he's the only one shown to touch it. Probably a fake prop.-[[User:Codemaster94|Codemaster94]]

==Jackie and Firearms==
Jackie Chan seems to avoid using guns in many of his films or else uses them less than others may in the same situations. There are a few exceptions to this but it is still a fairly common feature of many of his films. Does Chan dislike firearms or does he simply abstain from them in order to make room for greater amounts of hand-to-hand fight scenes? I heard somewhere that he hates guns in general but I've never found anything that confirmed this. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

He once said that he needed to carry a gun everyday in order to protect himself from triads. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 03:52, 3 January 2016 (EST)

Talk:Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation

2015-08-08T20:26:59Z

Btgr: /* Seen the movie */

OK, first time creating a imfdb page. Working MOSTLY off of the first trailer. Trying to add the first poster, any publicity images; you know the usual stuff at this stage.
:Are you planning on adding screencaps from the trailer? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 08:25, 24 March 2015 (EDT)
I tried, but the quality of the shots I got were... not optimum. Partly it's to do with not getting a high quality video, partly due to the fast-cut nature of the footage. There's silenced pistol (possibly a SIG-Sauer) used by a motorcylists, what might by M16Ks, a gun disguised a flute. Also, due to this being a Mission: Impossible film, there are less shootouts than in other action movies. Still, less than three months to go 'til release, I think we ought to get the page ready. ([[User: Scott197836]])
:Remember that M:I-2 and M:I-3 had lots of shootouts. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 13:54, 25 March 2015 (EDT)
::"Motorcycle Pistols" Looks like Sig P220's of some kind fitted with Osprey Suppressors, best guess judging by the size I'd say P226. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 02:20, 25 March 2015 (GMT)

==Ethan Hunt pistol==
Doesn't Ethan hold a pistol while in a tuxedo as well? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 22:39, 24 March 2015 (EDT)
:Yeah, but you can't really see it, if you can identify it let us know.
:[[Image:MI5-TuxPistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 16:29, 25 March 2015 (GMT)

== Seen the movie ==

Guards were seen with AK variants during the Morocco scene, SCO19 officers were seen with MP5s during the London scene and the Ethan Hunt pistol is actually a dart gun. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 19:50, 1 August 2015 (EDT)

Just saw it, Ethan and Brandt appear to use Benelli MP95Es posing as dart guns. Also the villain uses a suppressed p99 in the beginning, and Ethan uses a supressed p226 as well as an unsupressed version at the end. The villain appears to use one too. I also think Luther is assembling one briefly before the end.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 03:07, 2 August 2015 (EDT)

:I spotted a 1911 style pistol on a table in Ethan's apartment when the CIA team are approaching to capture him in Havana. I think Ilsa had a SIG Sauer P250 towards the end, there is a close up of it and the back looks more like the P250 than the P226 to me. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:34, 6 August 2015 (EDT)

Saw the movie again, what appears to be SIG SG 552s were seen in the IMF armory in Vienna and one of the guards who unmasked Benji appears to be carrying a Glock pistol. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 16:26, 8 August 2015 (EDT)

== Found this on Yahoo, need help identifying ==

They look like custom target pistols
https://www.yahoo.com/sy/nn/fp/rsz/080215/images/smush/CruiseRenner_635x250_1438530912.jpg

I've looked around a bit, and instead of a Benelli like I previously claimed, the pistol in question appears to be walther ssp.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 18:09, 2 August 2015 (EDT)
:Don't think it is an SSP (or the SSP-E which is a closer match in terms of outline) as this pistol feeds from a magazine which drops in trough the top of the ejection port. On the movie guns you can see what looks like a magazine floorplate ahead of the trigger guard. From what I can see it isn't a Benelli MP95E either, or for that matter a Hammerli 280, Walther GSP, or any other pistol of this layout I can find. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:44, 4 August 2015 (EDT)
[[File:Mi5-16252r.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Promo image that shows them better]]

Talk:Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation

2015-08-01T23:50:41Z

Btgr: /* Seen the movie */ new section

Talk:Top Gear

2014-06-18T10:49:52Z

Btgr: /* Burma Special */ new section

This article should be deleted being that it is a documentary. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that. It's a British variety show that focuses on equal aspects entertainment and humor, but also factual information concerning the cars. If you've seen the show you'll know what I'm talking about, it really is the farthest thing from a documentary. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 22:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

:even then so it is a nonfictional item, so it falls out of the scope of IMFDB. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 17:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:: If that's the case, then all [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Category:Documentary these] pages need to be deleted as well. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 17:19, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
That is correct --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 17:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Top gear Ground Force ==

in Top gear Ground Force Jeremy uses an Over/Under shotgun for some light gardening

== TV Tropes ==

I was looking through the '''Imperial Storm Trooper Marksmanship Academy''' section and found this mentioned. ''"A Series 13 episode of Top Gear saw the British Armed Forces firing at a stationary Mitsubishi Evo 7 from only a few hundred yards away with machine guns, missing the majority of the time. The tracer rounds that went astray were enough to light parts of the surrounding area on fire." '' Is this a valid criticism? Or is that about all the accuracy you could expect form L7's and Browning M2's? [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]] 16:59 22/2/11
: Here is the video of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAPRTAksr2w . When they are actually shooting at the stationary Evo, they seem to have pretty good accuracy, but the whole thing is staged, and I imagine that the majority of the tracers are added in post, particularly when it is being driven around the firing zone. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

== Newly added AK ==

[[Image:Tg_s17ep1_ak47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Based on the general look of it and that mold line along the top of the nearest gun's handguard: airsoft guns? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:20, 25 July 2011 (CDT)

== Interceptors ==
What about the firearms that appear in their mock 70's-detective show opening sequence titled "The Interceptors". They use, as far as I can tell, a Walther, a Luger, a Sten and a Colt Detective Special.
:: At one point a baddie is shown using a P38 as well, although it locks back after the first shot, but post editting showed it shooting again, ie muzzle flash, although this may have been somewhat deliberate as the whole sequence was spoofing 70's cop shows.

:: Jeremy or Jason Clarkson's "signature" weapon is a Walther P38, and James or James Steed's "signature" weapon is a Sten Sub Machine Gun, Richard or Roger St. Hammond's signature weapon was his hands, as hes a "karate master".

== Albania Special ==

During the Albania Special, the guys "rob" a bank, and come out with handguns. I have a capture from the episode and it seems to be a Tokarev TT-33, but im not entirely sure.

Considering where they were and what they were doing, i think its reasonable to assume its a Tokarev.

[http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/Hitokiri_Gensai/vlcsnap-2011-09-22-12h49m39s45.png Screen Cap from Episode 16x03]

the location of the rear sight and the shape of the trigger seem to suggest it.

==Jeremy shooting cars==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAiXRKQffQ0

Jeremy was seen firing an Over and Under Shotgun, a SPAS-12 shotgun, an unknown General Purpose machine gun and a Carl Gustav Recoiless Rifle.

:The GPMG is the L7 GPMG, the British version of the FN MAG. It is in the fire-support set up, mounted on a tripod and with the stock removed. Is this clip actually from Top Gear, or is it from one of Jeremy Clarkson's DVDs? [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]

== Missing Firearms ==

In the Car Biathlon, didn't James use a .22 slide action rifle (the one used in the Olympics) plus, Clarkson and May did seem to use a Remington Extended tube in the Polar Special, well May didn't use it but only bluff by cocking the shotgun. Yet, Clarkson did indeed however use it to destroy the Spam (food). Also, I have noticed in the East U.S Special, there was a Glock, I believe it's either a Glock 17 or a Glock 19, I know for sure it has to be a 9mm. but it hasn't been used. [[User:Repoman|Repoman]]

== New Episodes ==

This article's out of date, so I'm working on screencapping new episodes starting with the Africa Special in series 19. It would be appreciated if some folks could join me; I trust you can all find the episodes online fine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:34, 12 April 2013 (EDT)

== Burma Special ==

In the Burma Special, several soldiers were seen wielding AK and M16 assault rifles, plus one of the soldiers was seen with a pistol possibly a Browning Hi-Power or SIG Saucer P226 in his holster. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 06:49, 18 June 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

2013-10-29T08:31:21Z

Btgr: /* Getting the feeling of anachronism */

==Unknown SMG==
Anybody know what these are?

[[File:MGS5Unknown.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:05, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

:Considering all footage shown so far, showing relatively narrow arsenal assets, I'm willing to say pretty surely that it's the same MP9 as in Ground Zeroes. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 17:24, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

But whats the point of holding them sideways like that especially with the ejection port facing up.--[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:40, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

:I assume however, it could be held sideways because they are so densely packed together, using it as a method of evading to shower their mates with hot brass. I'm puzzled as to why they are holding them ejection port upwards, but it could be some recoil controlling technique perhaps even a depiction of the C.A.R. technique. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 18:03, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::You are thinking about it too much, I would highly doubt that anyone involved in this decision has even heard of the CAR technique. My guess is that they are doing it because someone thinks it looks cool, particularly if you get to have the cases spraying upwards into the air showing off some nice physics. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:59, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::I don't know about the guns, but the stuff on the soldiers backs seem to resemble the fuel canisters for the M2 Flamethrower or a similar flamethrower. What I do know is that whatever the make, the backpack is undeniably a flamethrower weapon. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:50, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::::I don't think they are, more likely they are air tanks as they appear to be wearing breathing apparatus. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:39, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Found another gun image, it's from the last few seconds of the VGA trailer:
:::[[File:Pp12.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:::Don't know if its the same gun or a different gun, but still, hope I helped. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:57, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

The The Phantom Pain and Ground Zero is the same game. They've just announced that. So one of these pages has got to go [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 19:47, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:The last I read (earlier today) "Ground Zeroes" is the prologue to "The Phantom Pain" which taken together make up MGS5, but they would not confirm whether or not they were shipping it as one game or two separate ones. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:59, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::Well, I advocated patience and just waiting for official word earlier, I don't know why people are in such a rush. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:22, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Yeah, here's a bit of a problem, though: Konami told GameSpot that they are two separate games. Jay Boor, director of PR, stated they are two separate games, and the official MGS facebook page (which is owned by Konami and Kojima Productions) not only stated they were two different games, they even quoted Kojima's twitter on it. We keep them separate. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 20:46, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::::If they truly are separate games, then why does the new trailer contain footage from BOTH teasers and titled it MGS5 The Phantom Pain? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 21:57, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::If I recall correctly, ''Peace Walker'' and ''Portable Ops'' also contained footage from ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' in their debut trailers, so I doubt it would mean much. Even if it did, it's likely that they are somewhat connected, but still separate games. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:59, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::::::I don't ever remember they using footage from MGS3 to advertise that the final product will look like Portable Ops or Peacewalker. The recent trailer did not even state they were two separate games. It didn't say Ground Zeroes once, it only titled itself as MGS5 The Phantom Pain. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 22:58, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::::Portable Ops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0NUg0DLMpQ
:::::::Peace Walker TGS2009 Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5trPeM9wI
:::::::Both of these trailers showed footage from ''MGS3'', at least at the beginning of the trailer. And the trailer may not have stated they were two separate games, but Konami and other official sources stated they are. Heck, even Kojima stated that the sequence he showed in TPP was actually the tutorial at the beginning of a game, despite claiming that Ground Zeroes was the prologue. The only way to claim both to be true is if they are indeed separate games. And besides, Kojima also stated that both Rising and Peace Walker were Metal Gear Solid 5 in interviews, even though back then it was clear as day they were separate games. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:16, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I am still holding out that it's all misdirection on part of the creator. It seems odd to market 2 games at the same time. Are both going to be released at the same time? in one box? a year apart? There's a lot of questions from a production standpoint [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:22, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
::::::::And going back to the portable games trailers with MGS3 footage. Those were the Japanese trailers and the MGS3 footages serve as a jump off point. If you were to compare advertising like that to these games, it would be like watching a trailer of MGS5 starting off with a couple scenes from MGS4, 2 completely different games but obviously has connections to each other since they exist in the same universe. You can't argue because the portable games did it so it makes sense for the new MGS5 trailer. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:26, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::It's not odd at all that they'd market two completely different games at the same time. Heck, Lords of Shadows 2 actually marketed both the console game and the portable game at the exact same time in E3 2012, and Epic Mickey 2 also did the same with two games that were completely different. And misdirection or not, I sincerely doubt Kojima'd refer to the opening scene of TPP as being the tutorial to the game AFTER marketing it as the same as Ground Zeroes. You can't have a tutorial level after the main prologue of a game. Did we have that in the Plant Chapter of MGS2? Operation Snake Eater in MGS3? Any of the levels after Liquid Sun in MGS4? Any of the levels after the intro to Peace Walker? There is a way for games to be separate and the same at the exact same time though: Think Sonic 4. Separate releases, same game. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 12:07, 21 April 2013 (EDT)

==Gun wish list==
Here's some guns I hope will come for the game since Kojima confirmed The Phantom Pain will take place around 1984. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:52, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

The first is a Glock and not the Glock 18.
Galil

CZ75

UZI

ASP9

M14

AK74

FAL

Valmet series

Browning HP

VP70

Beretta 93R

SIG SG 540

XL64E5

FAMAS

More M16 variants

Daewoo K1 / K2

Mini-14

SA Vz.58

AR-18

Different AK variants

Guns that I personally predict would be useable: --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 18:58, 6 July 2013 (EDT)

Makarov PM

Stetchkin APS

M1911A1

Any .357 Magnum revolver made by Smith & Wesson, Colt or Ruger

SPAS-12

Lee-Enfield

SKS

PPSh-41

Sterling SMG

BXP or Skorpion

AKS-74U

GP-25 (for the AK47 variant)

M203 (for the SAR-80)

FN MAG-58

PKM

RPG-7

M72 LAW

FIM-92 Stinger

RGD-5 or M67

Heckler & Koch G11

Railgun

=New Red band trailer=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gEqmkduIeMU

:Am the only one, but are there quite a lot of hybrid firearms on display here? Take a closer look at those AKs, both the 7.62 and 5.56 versions. AK-74 stand-ins have a ring sight mounted on the back of the receiver, and [http://cdn1.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/14607241/mgs5_phantom_pain.0_cinema_640.0.jpg 7.62 ones have a bizarre wooden front grip, AKS-74U patterned back sights along with a pretty western looking flash hider]. Now those are some jive-ass Kalashnikovs if I ever laid my very one eyes upon one. Is anyone a bit more versed as to why Kojima suddenly went for this bizarre change? --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 17:26, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

I'll admit it is unusual, but at least they look like they can exist unlike Resident Evil 6 where all guns seemed like frankenguns [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 18:58, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

=Getting the feeling of anachronism =
I wonder, with the recent trailer, a lot of the tech and gear are a bit anachronistic for the 80s like Skull face's men. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 19:19, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
:Dudes got a robot arm, I don't think historical accuracy is a big deal.--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] ([[User talk:Crazycrankle|talk]]) 20:49, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
::That's a BS argument. If that's the excuse, why not all guns be fictional and they start using halo plasma rifles and phasers? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:07, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
:::Kojima has said that MGS takes place in an alternate time line from the real world, so there being anachronisms in weapons and technology really shouldn't matter all that much, I mean hell, Peace Walker had some weapons that weren't made until the 80's and I believe some that weren't made until the 90's, so it's a little late for the "This is anachronistic!" arguments.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] ([[User talk:Kornflakes89|talk]]) 23:08, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
::::Kojima has confirmed that ''"Weapons will be based off of weapons found in the 1980's"''. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 04:31, 29 October 2013 (EDT)

= Single Action Army and other guns =

Not much to go off but Ocelot's gun does not look like an SAA at all. It looks like some kind of top breaker. Do you think the guns in this one are going to be generic instead of actual models like they've been before?--[[User:Acepeacemaker|Acepeacemaker]] ([[User talk:Acepeacemaker|talk]])
:I would agree that it looks nothing like a Colt, more like a Webley, but it isn't a perfect match for that either. As far as I can tell every one of these weapons is a hybrid or fabrication of some sort. The AK is the same shape as an AK-47, but every single part of it is wrong in some way. The rifle used by Skull Face's guys is pretty close to a real gun, as everything up the the rear of the handguard is a SIG SG 550, but ahead of that it goes to hell (looks a bit like an FNC from that point on). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:12, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
::Yeah back to the AK, in the shot I took of Snake disarming a guy, that AK has the elevated rear sight like a Galil [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 16:33, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
:::That AK is such a mess it is ridiculous. if you look at the receiver it actually appears to be partly based on that of an FN FAL (left side reflected on both sides of the AK) with an AKM dust cover with an AKS-74U rear sight. Added to this you have the weird straight post front sight (which I think I recognise from something but can't place), the slotted flash hider which looks a bit like a shortened Druganov, a vent-less handguard which looks like it has an M16A2 handguard texture applied to it, and a gas block like nothing I have seen on an AK. Also, unless they are at different game build stages there are two different rifles here, as the one with the rear sight at the top of the back cover has a Bakelite style 5.45×39mm style mag with the shallower curve. The guns are so f'ed up in this game so far that I almost get the feeling that they weren't actually designed for it, they just took existing models from other games and messed them up in the hopes that nobody would notice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:22, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

:::I took a look around at some AK variants and the front sight post that you mentioned you couldn't place looks like it's from the AK-74. Could also be taken from the PKM. Take a look at the entry for [[9th Company]] and compare --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:09, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I don't think so, the AK-74 front sight has a sloped back and a cut out in the middle, whereas this is vertical front and back and has no cut out. It also attaches to the barrel in a different way to any of the AK type sights. I've since remembered the thing it reminds me of, which is the front sight used on the original Gerat 06 prototype. I highly doubt this is what they deliberately based it on as this is such an obscure weapon, but this is what it reminded me of when I first saw it:[[File:Mauser Gerat 06 Early.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Mauser Gerat 06 - 7.92×33mm Kurz]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:05, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I just noticed, it also looks a lot like the front sight on the Knorr-Bremse paratrooper rifle prototype as seen [http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6949/knorrbremse1pz5.jpg here], the groove up the side is very similar. Both this and the Gerat 06 front sight are hooded though, although if they just used a random side on image they found as a reference you might not necessarily realise and model it as open. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:26, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

Let's hope the final product is a little different than advertised. In previous games, the weapons were slightly altered from early footage. In a way, the different weapon designs give off a sense of familiar yet alternate view of the period that the game takes place in. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 18:43, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Anyway, you think the revolve might be a Nagant? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 18:45, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

2013-10-02T21:19:54Z

Btgr:

{{upcoming}}

[[File:MGSGZPoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes'' (2014)]]

'''The following weapons appear in the video game ''Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes'':'''

'''For weapons relating to its sister game, see ''[[Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain]]''.'''

__TOC__ 

==M93-T Smoke/Flare Grenade==

An icon for Flare Grenades are seen in IGN's extended gameplay video. They could be used to summon the MSF gunship as Big Boss's extraction method when Big Boss frees Chico and Paz. The outline and nature of the grenade suggests that it is the M93-T Smoke/Flare Grenade.

[[File:MGSGZFlareGrenades.jpg|none|500px|thumb|The Flare Grenade icon.]]

==Unidentified FN-Style Rifle==

One of the first screenshots for the games shows Snake with what a rifle resembling an [[FN FNC]]. The rifle is not an FNC however, appearing to instead be a hybrid of various weapon parts. At this stage it is unconfirmed if this is the final version of the gun as it will appear in game, or if it is a place-holder model.

[[File:FN FNC Paratrooper.jpg |thumb|none|400px|FN FNC Paratrooper - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:Metal-gear-solid-ground-zero-fam-art.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A FN Style Rifle in the first screenshot.]]

==SAR-80==

A guard at the Prison camp in the debut trailer is armed with a [[SAR-80]]. Because of the Prison camp's obvious American ties as well as the gun's non usage in America, its implied that the guards are non-Americans who were hired to guard it.

[[File:SAR80.jpg|thumb|none|450px|SAR-80 Assault rifle - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:MGSGZDaewooK2.jpg|none|500px|thumb|A guard with a SAR-80.]]

==Shipunov 2A42==

A [[Shipunov 2A42]] chaingun can be seen mounted on a helicopter in IGN's extended gameplay video.

[[Image:800px-Autocanon 2A42 on the Mi28N heli.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Shipunov 2A42 mounted on a Mi-28 Havoc - 30x165mm]]
[[File:MGSGZChaingun.jpg|none|500px|thumb|The 2A42 on Snake's getaway chopper (which is intended to extract Paz and Chico as well, although the viewing ended early due to time constraints). Note that the chopper combines aspects of both the Mi-24D and the Mi-28 Havoc, such as the former's sizable transport bay and the latter's cockpits and its usage of the Shipunov.]]

==Unknown MG==

Part of a convoy in the debut trailer has a unknown MG mounted on a truck.

[[File:MGSGZUnknownMG.jpg|none|500px|thumb|The truck seen at a distance from a Jeep, standing guard at a heliport on Camp Omega.]]

==Ruger MP9==
The soldiers are seen with [[Ruger MP9]]s with most of its grip removed and a [[Skorpion]] style stock. Some have lights mounted underneath.

[[File:RugerMP9smg.jpg|none|400px|thumb|Ruger MP9 with stock folded - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Skorpion-ZA-VZ61 side.jpg|none|400px|thumb|Sa. Vz. 61 Skorpion with 10 round magazine and stock extended - .32 ACP]]
[[File:MGSGZUnknownSMG.jpg|none|500px|thumb|Ruger MP9 at the ready.]]
[[File:MGSGZUnknownSMG2.jpg|none|500px|thumb|The MP9 with the stock folded. Note that it appears to have a groove for a top-mounted charging handle, but no actual handle.]]
[[File:MGSGZUnknownSMGHoldsterd.jpg|none|500px|thumb|The soldier with his Ruger MP9 holstered.]]

==M1911 Series Pistol==
A soldier has an unknown [[M1911]] type pistol in his holster.

[[File:MGSGZUnknownSMGHoldsterd.jpg|none|500px|thumb|The soldier with his 1911 in his holster. Look for the tell tale hammer.]]

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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

2013-10-02T08:09:02Z

Btgr: 2014 release confirmed

{{upcoming}}

[[File:MGS5Title.jpg|thumb|right|500px|''Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain'' (2014)]]

'''The following weapons appear in the video game ''Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain'':'''

'''For weapons relating to its sister game, see ''[[Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes]]''.'''

__TOC__ 

==Colt Single Action Army==
The [[Colt Single Action Army]] is seen in one of Ocelot's holsters in the debut trailer.

[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army - .45 Long Colt]]
[[File:MGS5ColtSAA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Colt Single Action Army in Ocelot's holster.]]
[[File:MGS5Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Remington 870==

Naked Snake uses a [[Remington 870]] while on Ocelot's white horse (yes, a white horse), against a fiery apparition resembling Colonel Volgin on an equally fiery apparition resembling a winged unicorn.

[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 - 12 Gauge]]
[[File:MGS5Remington870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Naked Snake firing a Remington 870 at a fiery apparition of Volgin. While a bit hard to see the 870 style magazine cap is visible confirming its identity.]]

==FAL Style Rifle==

The same unknown [[FAL]] style rifle from [[Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes]] is used by Snake and his MSF Mercs.

[[File:FN FNC Paratrooper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN FNC Paratrooper - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:MGS5FALRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:MGS5FALRifle2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:MGS5FALRifleFire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:MGS5FALRifle3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==SAR-80==

Snake is seen with a [[SAR-80]] in a gameplay trailer.

[[File:SAR80.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SAR-80 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:MGS5FALRifle4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Unknown gun==
Several soldiers were seen using unknown guns while storming the hospital premises in ''The Phantom Pain'' VGA and GDC trailers.

[[File:MGS5Unknown.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Several soldiers using guns of an unknown make in both the VGA and the GDC trailers, during a raid at a hospital.]]

==Unknown Rifle==
Nearing the very end of the VGA trailer, a soldier aimed a rifle of an unknown make at a subdued Big Boss, while a child with psychic powers levitated himself into the air. The rifle had a flashlight on the barrel, which shone on Big Boss's subdued body.

[[File:Pp12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier readies his rifle at a subdued Big Boss (cut off from picture), while a child (implied to be Psycho Mantis) levitates up into the air. It's not pictured, but the gun has a flashlight on it.]]

==Unknown Sniper Rifle==

[[File:MGS5SR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:MGS5SR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==AK Variant==

An [[AK]] rifle is seen used by child soldiers in the Red Band trailer. These particular AKs have [[AKM]] dust covers with [[AKS-74U]] rear sights.

[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKM - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[File:MGS5AK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:MGS5AK2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:MGS5AK3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Unknown mech gun==

[[File:MGSMGgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==SIG SG 550==

One of Skull Face's men is seen with a [[SIG SG 550]].

[[Image:SIG550.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG SG 550 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:MGS5SIGrifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Solider on the left is showing the left side of the SIG SG 550.]]
[[File:MGS5SIGrifle2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Shipunov 2A42==

A [[Shipunov 2A42]] is mounted on the same Mi-20/Mi-28 hybrid seen in [[Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes]].

[[Image:800px-Autocanon 2A42 on the Mi28N heli.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Shipunov 2A42 mounted on a Mi-28 Havoc - 30x165mm]]
[[File:MGS52A42.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Shipunov 2A42 mounted on the "combocopter".]]

==M18 Smoke Grenades==

[[M18 Smoke Grenade]]s are seen on a MSF soldier's vest.

[[Image:M18red.jpg|thumb|none|250px|M18 Smoke Grenade]]
[[File:MGS5UnknownGrenades.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Gun Shelf==

During the presentation of his new Metal Gear Solid video game, Hideo Kojima made a demonstration of what the FOX engine was capable of. He most notably showed a conference room set, with this gun wall.

We can recognize the "customized" [[Ruger MP9]]s from the [[Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes]] trailer, as well as a FN-style rifle (with a flashlight on the barrel) and the [[SAR-80]] rifle, top left. Then there is the [[Remington 870]] already seen in the Pantom Pain trailer.

Regarding new guns, we can notice two [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistols at the bottom right and also what seems to be a sawed-off [[Winchester Model 1887]] lever action shotgun. There's also a missile launcher that might be a [[FIM-43 Redeye]] and a grenade launcher looking like a [[Milkor Stopper]] with an FN-style folding stock.

[[File:MGS5 Guns.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

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Talk:Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

2013-07-06T22:58:06Z

Btgr: /* Gun wish list */

==Unknown SMG==
Anybody know what these are?

[[File:MGS5Unknown.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:05, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

:Considering all footage shown so far, showing relatively narrow arsenal assets, I'm willing to say pretty surely that it's the same MP9 as in Ground Zeroes. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 17:24, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

But whats the point of holding them sideways like that especially with the ejection port facing up.--[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:40, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

:I assume however, it could be held sideways because they are so densely packed together, using it as a method of evading to shower their mates with hot brass. I'm puzzled as to why they are holding them ejection port upwards, but it could be some recoil controlling technique perhaps even a depiction of the C.A.R. technique. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 18:03, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::You are thinking about it too much, I would highly doubt that anyone involved in this decision has even heard of the CAR technique. My guess is that they are doing it because someone thinks it looks cool, particularly if you get to have the cases spraying upwards into the air showing off some nice physics. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:59, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::I don't know about the guns, but the stuff on the soldiers backs seem to resemble the fuel canisters for the M2 Flamethrower or a similar flamethrower. What I do know is that whatever the make, the backpack is undeniably a flamethrower weapon. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:50, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::::I don't think they are, more likely they are air tanks as they appear to be wearing breathing apparatus. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:39, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Found another gun image, it's from the last few seconds of the VGA trailer:
:::[[File:Pp12.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:::Don't know if its the same gun or a different gun, but still, hope I helped. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:57, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

The The Phantom Pain and Ground Zero is the same game. They've just announced that. So one of these pages has got to go [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 19:47, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:The last I read (earlier today) "Ground Zeroes" is the prologue to "The Phantom Pain" which taken together make up MGS5, but they would not confirm whether or not they were shipping it as one game or two separate ones. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:59, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::Well, I advocated patience and just waiting for official word earlier, I don't know why people are in such a rush. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:22, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Yeah, here's a bit of a problem, though: Konami told GameSpot that they are two separate games. Jay Boor, director of PR, stated they are two separate games, and the official MGS facebook page (which is owned by Konami and Kojima Productions) not only stated they were two different games, they even quoted Kojima's twitter on it. We keep them separate. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 20:46, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::::If they truly are separate games, then why does the new trailer contain footage from BOTH teasers and titled it MGS5 The Phantom Pain? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 21:57, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::If I recall correctly, ''Peace Walker'' and ''Portable Ops'' also contained footage from ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' in their debut trailers, so I doubt it would mean much. Even if it did, it's likely that they are somewhat connected, but still separate games. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:59, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::::::I don't ever remember they using footage from MGS3 to advertise that the final product will look like Portable Ops or Peacewalker. The recent trailer did not even state they were two separate games. It didn't say Ground Zeroes once, it only titled itself as MGS5 The Phantom Pain. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 22:58, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::::Portable Ops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0NUg0DLMpQ
:::::::Peace Walker TGS2009 Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5trPeM9wI
:::::::Both of these trailers showed footage from ''MGS3'', at least at the beginning of the trailer. And the trailer may not have stated they were two separate games, but Konami and other official sources stated they are. Heck, even Kojima stated that the sequence he showed in TPP was actually the tutorial at the beginning of a game, despite claiming that Ground Zeroes was the prologue. The only way to claim both to be true is if they are indeed separate games. And besides, Kojima also stated that both Rising and Peace Walker were Metal Gear Solid 5 in interviews, even though back then it was clear as day they were separate games. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:16, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I am still holding out that it's all misdirection on part of the creator. It seems odd to market 2 games at the same time. Are both going to be released at the same time? in one box? a year apart? There's a lot of questions from a production standpoint [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:22, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
::::::::And going back to the portable games trailers with MGS3 footage. Those were the Japanese trailers and the MGS3 footages serve as a jump off point. If you were to compare advertising like that to these games, it would be like watching a trailer of MGS5 starting off with a couple scenes from MGS4, 2 completely different games but obviously has connections to each other since they exist in the same universe. You can't argue because the portable games did it so it makes sense for the new MGS5 trailer. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:26, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::It's not odd at all that they'd market two completely different games at the same time. Heck, Lords of Shadows 2 actually marketed both the console game and the portable game at the exact same time in E3 2012, and Epic Mickey 2 also did the same with two games that were completely different. And misdirection or not, I sincerely doubt Kojima'd refer to the opening scene of TPP as being the tutorial to the game AFTER marketing it as the same as Ground Zeroes. You can't have a tutorial level after the main prologue of a game. Did we have that in the Plant Chapter of MGS2? Operation Snake Eater in MGS3? Any of the levels after Liquid Sun in MGS4? Any of the levels after the intro to Peace Walker? There is a way for games to be separate and the same at the exact same time though: Think Sonic 4. Separate releases, same game. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 12:07, 21 April 2013 (EDT)

==Gun wish list==
Here's some guns I hope will come for the game since Kojima confirmed The Phantom Pain will take place around 1984. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:52, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

The first is a Glock and not the Glock 18.
Galil

CZ75

UZI

ASP9

M14

AK74

FAL

Valmet series

Browning HP

VP70

Beretta 93R

SIG SG 540

XL64E5

FAMAS

More M16 variants

Daewoo K1 / K2

Mini-14

SA Vz.58

AR-18

Different AK variants

Guns that I personally predict would be useable: --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 18:58, 6 July 2013 (EDT)

Makarov PM

Stetchkin APS

M1911A1

Any .357 Magnum revolver made by Smith & Wesson, Colt or Ruger

SPAS-12

Lee-Enfield

SKS

PPSh-41

Sterling SMG

BXP or Skorpion

AKS-74U

GP-25 (for the AK47 variant)

M203 (for the SAR-80)

FN MAG-58

PKM

RPG-7

M72 LAW

FIM-92 Stinger

RGD-5 or M67

Heckler & Koch G11

Railgun

=New Red band trailer=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gEqmkduIeMU

:Am the only one, but are there quite a lot of hybrid firearms on display here? Take a closer look at those AKs, both the 7.62 and 5.56 versions. AK-74 stand-ins have a ring sight mounted on the back of the receiver, and [http://cdn1.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/14607241/mgs5_phantom_pain.0_cinema_640.0.jpg 7.62 ones have a bizarre wooden front grip, AKS-74U patterned back sights along with a pretty western looking flash hider]. Now those are some jive-ass Kalashnikovs if I ever laid my very one eyes upon one. Is anyone a bit more versed as to why Kojima suddenly went for this bizarre change? --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 17:26, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

I'll admit it is unusual, but at least they look like they can exist unlike Resident Evil 6 where all guns seemed like frankenguns [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 18:58, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

=Getting the feeling of anachronism =
I wonder, with the recent trailer, a lot of the tech and gear are a bit anachronistic for the 80s like Skull face's men. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 19:19, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
:Dudes got a robot arm, I don't think historical accuracy is a big deal.--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] ([[User talk:Crazycrankle|talk]]) 20:49, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
::That's a BS argument. If that's the excuse, why not all guns be fictional and they start using halo plasma rifles and phasers? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:07, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

= Single Action Army and other guns =

Not much to go off but Ocelot's gun does not look like an SAA at all. It looks like some kind of top breaker. Do you think the guns in this one are going to be generic instead of actual models like they've been before?--[[User:Acepeacemaker|Acepeacemaker]] ([[User talk:Acepeacemaker|talk]])
:I would agree that it looks nothing like a Colt, more like a Webley, but it isn't a perfect match for that either. As far as I can tell every one of these weapons is a hybrid or fabrication of some sort. The AK is the same shape as an AK-47, but every single part of it is wrong in some way. The rifle used by Skull Face's guys is pretty close to a real gun, as everything up the the rear of the handguard is a SIG SG 550, but ahead of that it goes to hell (looks a bit like an FNC from that point on). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:12, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
::Yeah back to the AK, in the shot I took of Snake disarming a guy, that AK has the elevated rear sight like a Galil [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 16:33, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
:::That AK is such a mess it is ridiculous. if you look at the receiver it actually appears to be partly based on that of an FN FAL (left side reflected on both sides of the AK) with an AKM dust cover with an AKS-74U rear sight. Added to this you have the weird straight post front sight (which I think I recognise from something but can't place), the slotted flash hider which looks a bit like a shortened Druganov, a vent-less handguard which looks like it has an M16A2 handguard texture applied to it, and a gas block like nothing I have seen on an AK. Also, unless they are at different game build stages there are two different rifles here, as the one with the rear sight at the top of the back cover has a Bakelite style 5.45×39mm style mag with the shallower curve. The guns are so f'ed up in this game so far that I almost get the feeling that they weren't actually designed for it, they just took existing models from other games and messed them up in the hopes that nobody would notice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:22, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Let's hope the final product is a little different than advertised. In previous games, the weapons were slightly altered from early footage. In a way, the different weapon designs give off a sense of familiar yet alternate view of the period that the game takes place in. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 18:43, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Anyway, you think the revolve might be a Nagant? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 18:45, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Simon Pegg

2013-07-04T08:17:58Z

Btgr: Created page with "http://www.redcarpetcrash.com/the-worlds-end-new-featurette-on-the-genius-that-edgar-wright-is/ Just some proof that a gun is seen in The World's End. --~~~~"

http://www.redcarpetcrash.com/the-worlds-end-new-featurette-on-the-genius-that-edgar-wright-is/

Just some proof that a gun is seen in The World's End. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 04:17, 4 July 2013 (EDT)

Simon Pegg

2013-07-04T08:16:49Z

Btgr:

[[Image:HFTaurusPT92AF-7.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Simon Pegg armed with a [[Taurus PT92|Taurus PT92 AF]] as Sgt. Nicholas Angel in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]''.]]

{{Actor FTV Title}}

==Film==
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="225"|'''Title'''
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| [[Winchester Model 1866 "Yellow Boy"]] || Shaun || ''[[Shaun of the Dead]]'' || || 2006
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| [[Taurus PT92AF]] || Sgt. Nicholas Angel || ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'' |||| 2007
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| [[Jericho 941|Jericho 941 "Baby Eagle"]] || Sgt. Nicholas Angel || ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'' |||| 2007
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| [[Heckler & Koch G36C]] || Sgt. Nicholas Angel || ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'' |||| 2007
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| [[Mossberg 500]] || Sgt. Nicholas Angel || ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'' |||| 2007
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| [[L1A1 SLR]] || Sgt. Nicholas Angel || ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'' |||| 2007
|-
| [[Glock 17]] || Benji Dunn || ''[[Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol]]'' |||| 2011
|-
| [[Heckler & Koch G36C]] || Benji Dunn || ''[[Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol]]'' |||| 2011
|-
| [[SIG-Sauer P226 E2]] || Benji Dunn || ''[[Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol]]'' |||| 2011
|-
| [[Heckler & Koch USP]] || Gary King || ''[[World's End, The]]'' || Promo Shot || 2013
|-
|}

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="225"|'''Title'''
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| [[Remington 870]] || Tim Beasly ||''[[Spaced]]'' |||| 1999-2001
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| [[M1911]] || First Sergeant William Evans || ''[[Band of Brothers]]'' |||| 2001
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| [[M1A1 Carbine]] || First Sergeant William Evans || ''[[Band of Brothers]]'' |||| 2001
|-
|}

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Type 63 rifle

2013-07-03T10:39:35Z

Btgr: Semi-Autos aren't banned in Australia.

[[Image:Type63.jpg|right|thumb|600px|Norinco Type 63 - 7.62x39mm]]
The Norinco Type 63 rifle, also incorrectly referred as the Type 68 by Western sources, is a Chinese made assault rifle that was made to replace the [[Type 56]] in Chinese service when soldiers needed a combination of long rifle range and rifle firepower. Despite the fact that it resembles the SKS, it uses the rotating bolt system of the [[AK-47]] rather than the tilting bolt system of the [[SKS]]. It was also exported to Vietnam, Cambodia, North Korea, Anti-Soviet forces in Afghanistan, Albania, and semi-auto surplus variants were also exported to Australia before the introduction of the 1996 restrictions on the legal ownership of semi-automatic longarms and pump-action shotguns.

==Specifications==
(1969 – 1978)

* '''Type:''' Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x39mm

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|3.8}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|1033}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|531}}

* '''Feed System:''' 20-round box magazine

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto/Full-Auto

-----
{{Gun Title}}

===Film===
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| ''[[Kite Runner, The|The Kite Runner]]'' || || Taliban || || 2007
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Talk:Hot Fuzz

2013-06-09T22:35:56Z

Btgr: /* Guns */

I just saw a commercial for the HD DVD release of ''Hot Fuzz'' and they showed a scene wherein a Catholic priest says "Stop this mindless violence!" and whips out two small-frame handguns hidden in the sleeves of his outfit. I was unable to identify them because the camera cut to the next scene in the commercial too quickly. Can anyone else ID these weapons and add them to the article? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

:I've got a boatload of screenshots for Hot Fuzz I need to upload... pics of the pistols are in there, though I wasn't able to identify them... [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 01:20, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

==Snarky Commentary==
I am removing snarky commentary from this page. If you're one of the folks who put in sarcastic insults to the actors .... tough titties. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
==Mossberg==
In the Mossberg section, the gun in Andy's hand is NOT a Mossberg, it has a cross bolt safety, and is marked Squires Bingham, so not a Mossberg, idk what it is though, maybe someone else can help with that. Oh and Mary Porter's isn't either, the rear of the receiver has a slight hump. Looks like a Charles Daly.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
==Annette Roper==
The shop owner lady's name is Annette Roper, played by Patricia Franklin.
==Fake Gun?==
Since the air rifle used at the fete and the fake gun used by Eve Draper are included, can anyone else ID the fake gun used by Danny while watching Point Break?

:LOL, that's his TV remote! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:49, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

==Guns==
:you know, for a town in Britain (A country whose top three most hated things are the Irish, Indians and guns) that little town in the movie sure does have alot of firearms-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
::Irish, immigrants and guns. Only the extreme right wing of the british goverment hates immigrants and the Irish however.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sure they do. That totally explains the Troubles hahaha-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
::I think the Troubles is much more easily blamed on the far-right Ulster Unionists than the British government. And in my experience, the Brits hate the Northern Irish Protestants (who claim to be British) almost as much as the Catholics. But anyway, this isn't the place for this discussion... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:I don't think the UDA or IRA are going to keep up there antics for much longer, thank god-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

if heckler and koch can send an 82 yr old a MP5 that lives in a small country town mistaking here for a police station anythings posable - scarecrow

The last time I checked, the Conservatives and other right-wing political parties in the UK were as equally against legal gun ownership as their Labour and left-wing counterparts. Don't forget that the 1988 gun laws (the laws that prohibited the legal ownership of semi-automatic centrefire rifles in the UK) that were introduced in the UK after the Hungerford massacre in 1987 were done by Margaret Thatcher's Tory Government.
It seems that the conservatives in both the UK and Australia are against gun ownership and support draconian gun laws (I know because I live in Australia, I own a few firearms and I saw first hand the anti-gun hysteria the conservative government of John Howard and the Australian media whipped up in Australia in the days and weeks after the Port Arthur massacre in April 1996)-[[Roughneck Jase]] 10:09AM AEST, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

:That sums up the the UK gun situation quite well ''Roughneck Jase''. However, the conservatives opinions of guns (UK atleast) can partly be blamed on wanting to appear friendly and liberal - in other words, gain votes. There are that many MAG type groups in the UK, they're bound to get some votes by appearing anti-gun. @ ''Scarecrow'' - if you're talking about what I think you are, it was actually the ''Police Firearms training centre'', not H&K who sent the elderly lady the submachine gun! And finally - trust me S&WShooter, the Brits hate far more than the Irish, Indians and guns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRNvXv1J84A Everyone should watch this! --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 18:35, 9 June 2013 (EDT)

== Anyone notice maybe... ==

How Mr. Webleys name may be a reference to the british webley revolvers? thought crossed my mind. I know the name comes up a lot in the UK but y'know...something to think about.--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 07:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

==Re-organize==
Hope you people don't mind if I re-organized it so it looks cleaner.--[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 21:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Outtake firearm ==
In one of the outtakes which you can find on youtube, it shows Simon Pegg failing to do the S019 scene and you can briefly see the Police officer behind him with a shotgun which resembles a Remington 870 but it could be a Winchester or Mossberg used later on, infact The British armed forces use Remingtons for door breaching.

==Old People==

it may be just me, but it seems most of the older townspeople in the movie do a better job of firing their weapons than the younger ones, case in point being Mr. Treacher and the shopkeeper with the Steyr. I guess that proves the old adage, with age comes experience. :P -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 21:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Mr. Treacher is so good with firarms because the actor playing him ([[Tim Barlow]]) is actually deaf! He had lost his hearing for over fifty years before having a cochlea transplant in 2008, one year after this film was made. ([[User:jackbel]])

==G36==

During the SO19 scene at the beginning, Simon Pegg fires an automatic burst into the offender with the Kalashnikov. This is incorrect as all weapons used by British Police are limited to Semi-Automatic fire only, as an officer may only use the number of bullets necessary to stop the suspect. This does not apply to Military Police.
[[Theocd]]

:This is not entirely true. It is the case that standard ARV (Armed Response Vehicle) officers and foot officers will only be issued semi-automatic weapons. However SFOs (Specialist Firearms Officers) do on occasion use fully automatic weapons. SFOs would be used for hostage or terrorism related situations, making this case slightly more possible.--[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 13:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Could you provide a source? Not being anal, just want to make sure my facts are straight. Cheers. [[Theocd]]

I always thought it was only one shot fired anyway. As for sources: [http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/CO19/weapons/ clicky!] [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 15:58, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I watched it a few times and as far as I can tell there are at least two muzzle flahes and accompanying sounds. As for the source, the only things I can find is "all MP5s used by British police are single fire / semi-automatic only. " and "As with their MP5s, CO19 G36s are fitted with single-fire trigger groups." [[Theocd]]

Possible manual rather than mechanical burst then? [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 15:06, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

==Quoting==
When danny quotes will smith by sayin " your off the fuckin chain!" when does will smith say that?[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

Will Smith says it in Bad Boys 2 when they get the cars thrown at them. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:03, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

== smith wesson model 64 ==

i just looked at the picture of the gun again and it seems to either have pearl or ivory grips if you look close enough.

== redoing page. ==

I am going to redo this page with widescreen images. I will try my best to keep the images the same, i.e. screenshot the same points in the movie. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:25, 18 February 2012 (CST)

Talk:Miami Vice - Season 3

2013-05-29T20:16:50Z

Btgr: /* Borrowed footage */ new section

==Beretta Cheetah or Model 70?==
I think that the Beretta pistol used in the episode "heroes of the revolution" is not a "Cheetah", but a single-action model 70 (the 2nd scan seems to show a model 70, with the single action trigger, and the extension for the little finger in the magazine). I've modified accordingly the page. However I don't have here the DVD of this episode, so I might be making a mistake. Can anyone confirm that the gun is, actually, a model 70? [[User:Rafa|Rafa]]

:I can view the episode again and take a better took. edit: I'm thinking anytime a suppressor was used they used the Model 70. Because the barrel is flush on the Cheetah, not on the Model 70. So good call. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:MV2-BERCHET-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|season 2, it's hard to tell with the shadowing but it looks like a single action trigger]]
[[Image:MV3-BERCHET-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|season 3, barrel sticks out.]]

== Bushmaster XM 15 "V-Match" ==
Though I know Bushmaster has been around for decades was this model even in existence in the 1980s? I thought Bushmaster did not come out with their Disspiator line of weapons until sometime in the 1990s. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:06, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

The Cuban rebels use Crosman AR-17 .177 pellet rifles, not the Armscor M16-22 (M1600).

==Red Tape==
Watching the episode today i saw the gun Diaz's partner pullled before trying to enter the room at the beginning of the episode and it looked to me like a SIG (either the P220 or P226, though part of me thinks P226 due to the episode being made in 1987) and i have no way to screencap it (same issue with my Colt Trooper edit) so if anyone has season 3 on DVD and wants to review the episodes just to be sure.

== Borrowed footage ==

Some of the Nicaraguan footage in '''"Stone's War"''' was actually borrowed from the film [[Latino]]. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 16:16, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

Lord of War

2013-05-26T00:36:05Z

Btgr: /* Heckler & Koch MP5A2/A3 */

'''The following guns were used in the movie ''Lord of War'''''
[[Image:Lord of War film.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''[[Lord of War]]'' (2005)]]

=Handguns=
== Beretta 92SB ==

Yuri's brother Vitaly Orlov ([[Jared Leto]]) carries a [[Beretta 92SB]] pistol throughout the film. During the altercation with the narco-guerilla in Colombia, he pulls this weapon to defend his brother. The same prop also appears as one of the guns Yuri tries to sell André Baptiste Sr. ([[Eamonn Walker]]).

[[Image:BerettaM92SB.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92SB 9x19mm]]
[[Image:LOWBeretta92SB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vitaly draws his Beretta 92SB when Lebanese soldiers execute Palestinian guerillas. Note round trigger guard and the hollow threaded guide rod to allow the attachment of a compensator]]
[[Image:LOWBeretta92SB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vitaly draws his Beretta 92SB when he hears an Afghan Mujahideen fire his AKMS.]]
[[Image:LOWBeretta92SB-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vitaly aims his Beretta 92SB at the Columbian narco-guerilla. He had better put his finger on the trigger if he wants the reflex to shoot the man if the man shoots him. ]]

==Glock 17==

In one part of the film, Yuri sells four [[Glock 17]] pistols to a Colombian narco-guerilla (possibly a member of FARC),along with a large shipment of other weapons. When a dispute arises regarding payment for the weapons (the drug lord wants to give him cocaine instead of money), Yuri ends up getting shot with one of the pistols, violating the most important of his three rules; "Don't get shot with your own merchandise".

A notable mistake is that two of the Glock 17s in this scene (including the one used by the drug lord to shoot Yuri) are clearly 3rd Generation models (they have frame rails for mounting accessories, plus thumb reliefs and finger grooves in the grip), which were introduced in the late-1990s, but the scene takes place in the late-1980s. The other two Glocks are both 2nd Generation models, which would have been correct for the time period.

[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|350px|2nd Generation Glock 17 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|3rd Generation Glock 17 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-187090.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The narco-guerilla reaches for a [[Glock#Glock-17|Glock 17]] during the scene in Colombia. The two Glocks in the center of the box are Generation 3 models, which did not exist at the time in which the scene takes place (1989).]]
[[Image:LOWGlock17-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The narco-guerilla shoots Yuri with one of the Glock 17s.]]

==Makarov PM==
A Russian soldier in Ukraine points his [[Makarov PM]] at the Interpol agents when they try to bust Yuri.
[[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Makarov PM - 9x18mm Makarov.]]
[[Image:LOWMakarovPM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Russian soldier points his Makarov PM at Interpol agents.]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 686 ==
While Yuri is negotiating with André Baptiste Sr. ([[Eamonn Walker]]), the warlord uses a [[Smith & Wesson Model 686]] to kill one of the men in the room, after which Yuri comments that he'll have to purchase the weapon having used it. Later on, André captures Yuri's primary gun-running competitor, Simeon Weisz ([[Ian Holm]]) as a "present" for Yuri and gives him the opportunity to kill him using the revolver. When Yuri is reluctant to do the deed himself, the warlord puts the gun in Yuri's hand and presses Yuri's finger on the trigger until the gun fires, killing Weisz.

[[Image:800px-SW686.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 686 - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:LOWS&W686-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|André Baptiste Sr. examines Yuri's Smith & Wesson Model 686. Here he spins the cylinder while it is swung out of the gun, yet the ratcheting sound is heard, despite having nothing to ratchet against.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-195882.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Now you're gonna have to buy it. It's a used gun!"]]
[[Image:LOWS&W686-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|André Baptiste Sr. holding his Smith & Wesson 686.]]
[[Image:LoWS&W686-1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|André Baptiste Sr. forces Yuri Orlov to kill Simeon Weisz with the Smith & Wesson 686 Yuri had sold him earlier in the movie.]]
[[Image:LOWS&W686-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on the trigger guard as they pull the trigger together.]]

==Star Model B==
The Russian Mobster who is attacked in the restaurant single handedly takes out the two hitters with his [[Star Model B]] pistol. It appears the same gun is among the weapons Yuri sells to André Baptiste Sr. The is the same Star Model B used in ''[[Flight of the Phoenix]]''.
[[Image:StarPistolB.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Star Model B Pistol, blued finish - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:LOW1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The Russian mobster fires his Star Model B at the hitters.]]
[[Image:LOW1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The Russian points his Star Model B at Yuri.]]
[[Image:LOW1911-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yuri sells possibly the same gun to André Baptiste Sr.]]

=Sub-Machine Guns=

==Micro Uzi==

Yuri's very first arms sale is a batch of [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzi]] machine pistols, which are sold to local Russian mobsters (this is unrealistic as the civilian version of the Micro-Uzi was not made available until 1983).

[[Image:MicroUziPistol02.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Micro Uzi with 32 rd magazine - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-180394.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A couple of [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzis]] along with sound suppressors and ammo hidden in a video camera case, about to be sold to the mobsters.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-180687.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the mobsters points a [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzi]] at Yuri right after Yuri said it is so quiet that they could unload a mag into him and never wake the guy next door. He should have also told him to put the suppressor on first before threatening to try it on him,]]
[[Image:LOWMicroUzi-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vitaly Orlov ([[Jared Leto]]) examines one of Yuri's [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzis]].]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A2/A3 ==

Throughout the movie, the Interpol agents are brandishing [[H&K MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5]] submachine guns, both the MP5A2 and MP5A3, many of which have Navy trigger groups. In one scene where Interpol agents confront Yuri as he is about to ship an Mi-24 attack helicopter to Burkina Faso, one of the agents shoves an MP5 in his face threateningly. He coolly replies, "Oh, the new MP5...would you like a silencer for that?" A couple were also seen in Yuri Orlov's weapons container.

[[Image:H&KMP5-N.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 9x19mm with Navy trigger group]]
[[Image:Hk-mp5n.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with Navy trigger group]]
[[Image:LOWMP5triggergroup.jpg|thumb|none|600px|If you look closely to the right, you can see this MP5A3 has a Navy trigger group.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-105165.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Oh, the new MP5...would you like a silencer for that?"]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-105633.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The agent in the background has an MP5A2 Navy.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5K ==

Interpol agent Jack Valentine ([[Ethan Hawke]]) carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]] with a 15-round magazine and a Navy trigger group.

[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5KA 9x19mm with Navy trigger group]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-191772.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Agent Valentine sticks his MP5K in Yuri's face.]]
[[Image:LOWMP5K-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Valentine with his MP5K slung at his side.]]

== Uzi ==

In one scene, Yuri and Vitaly sell full-size [[Uzi]] submachine guns to Somali Islamic resistance fighters (one of them tests the weapon by firing it at a cardboard cutout of Ronald Reagan). Yuri notes the irony of this transaction: "I sold Israeli-made Uzis to Muslims."

[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Uzi 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-183510.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Somali gunman test-fires an [[Uzi]] (missing its stock for some reason).]]

=Rifles=

==AK-47==

Yuri Orlov ([[Nicolas Cage]]) is seen examining a Type III Pattern [[AK-47]] rifle of Russian manufacture during one of the film's most memorable scenes, the weapon's simplicity and near-indestructibility being highly praised by him. The film starts out following the journey of an AK-47 7.62x39mm round from a munitions factory in Russia to its final destination in an African country, where it is fired at and kills a child soldier.

[[Image:Ak 54.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-47 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:LOWAK-47-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yuri cycles the action on the AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-62887.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the magazine well of the AK-47 Yuri is inspecting as he loads the weapon with a magazine full of dummy rounds (the Cyrillic markings on the selector establish that the gun is of Russian manufacture).]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-189346.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yuri Orlov plays with a Soviet-built Type III AK-47 during the scene in which he describes the Kalashnikov's legendary reputation for viewers.]]
[[Image:LOWAK-47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Several AK-47s are seen piled up in Yuri's plane.]]

==AKM==
Yuri Orlov ([[Nicolas Cage]]) is seen loading and handing out an [[AKM]] to an African when his plane lands on the dirt road. They also appear numerous times during Yuri's sales. A Russian mobster is seen using one with the stock removed to appear like an [[AKMS]], although close inspection reveals it lacks the stock and hinges.
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AKM - 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:LOWAKMS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Russian mobster on the right fires his AKM with the stock and cleaning rod removed.]]
[[Image:LOWAKMS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mobster fires his AKM.]]
[[Image:LOWAKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yuri loads an AKM and gives to an African free of charge.]]
[[Image:LOWAKM-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|André Baptiste Sr. ([[Eamonn Walker]]) views a crate of Yuri's weapons, containing an AKM (fourth from the first) and four AK-47s..]]

==AKMS==
Several [[AKMS]]'s are seen among Yuri's deliveries.
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AKMS - 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:LOWMPi-KMS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yuri shows Vitaly how even newspapers are filled with guns, where an Afghan rebel is seen holding a side-folding stock East German MPi-KMS.]]
[[Image:LOWAKMS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The camera passes several AKMS's (fitted with East German BFAs).]]
[[Image:LOWAKMS-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bundle of AKMS's are next to Yuri on his plane.]]

== André Baptiste, Jr.'s custom AK ==

The gold-plated [[AK-47]]/[[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] derivative carried by André Baptiste, Jr. ([[Sammi Rotibi]]) is not, as has been written previously, an "AKS-47U" or "AKMSU" or any such factory-manufactured weapon. It is a custom-made Kalashnikov that was built specially for the movie. Martin Edge, an armorer at Hire Weapons, which supplied the guns for all scenes filmed in South Africa, has sent IMFDB an e-mail with the following details:

'''''"The weapon started out as a Saiga hunting rifle''' with synthetic stock and furniture...Here are the rest of the details:''

''-The folding stock is, as you mentioned from East Germany, this was purchased in East Germany at an arms fair and fitted to the weapon ''
''-The top cover is held on by means of a S.M.L.E. rear top cover spring clip ''
''-A pistol grip was installed and the trigger moved forward, the trigger guard is from a Vector R4 ''
''-The barrel and gas tube were shortened and the front sight is fitted to the barrel by means a flat on the barrel and a key on the front sight, the hand guard is held in position by the flash hider ''
''-The Muzzle brake/flash hider was turned down from a piece of bar ''

''The weapon was originally supplied to the production with the black synthetic furniture, but was rejected in favour of the wooden furniture. The weapon was actually built by Bruce Wenztel, the owner of Hire Arms, which is Johannesburg based movie weapons props house in South Africa. I was not one of the armourers on the movie as I was not working for the company that the time of the production. The armourer was Lance Peters who handled the weapons on set on the companies behalf. Hire Arms imported some weapons and supplied the others. I spend most of my time building specialized weapons for future productions and spend very little time on set. The company has 400 feature movies under its belt and seems to be going from strength to strength. I am attaching various other pictures, please feel free to upload as you like.''

''You also mention the magazine in your copy, and it is an early type and was chosen because of its surface area for ease of plating. Brass plating was suggested as an alternative to gold but was rejected by the production in favour of 18crt gold plating, which cost a small fortune."''

As mentioned in Martin's e-mail, he sent us a number of photos of the gold-plated AK. IMFDB is extremely grateful to him for this exclusive info!

[[Image:AK open.jpg|thumb|left|500px|]]
[[Image:LOW-GoldAK2.jpeg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:LOW-GoldAK3.jpeg|thumb|left|500px|]]
[[Image:LOW-GoldAK4.jpeg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-194035.jpg|thumb|none|600px|André Baptiste, Jr. holding his gold-plated AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-196208.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of Jr.'s AK - note the East German side-folding stock (not like the AKS-47U or AKMSU at all).]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-194516.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jr. firing his AK into the air from his car while Yuri winces.]]
 
 

==CAR-15 SMG==
One of the Narco-guerilla's henchmen is seen holding an [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series|CAR-15]] with a 10" barrel when Yuri sells him Glocks. One is also seen in Yuri's gun container.
[[Image:XM177_shorty.jpg|thumb|none|450px|CAR-15 SMG - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:LOWShortyCAR-15-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Left: The narco-guerilla's henchman holding a CAR-15 SMG. Right: A CAR-15 SMG (shown to be a slab-side) is seen in Yuri's container, bottom left.]]

== Colt Model 723 ==

During the Berlin Arms Fair scenes, several female models can be seen posing with [[M16 rifle series# Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|Colt Model 723s]].

[[Image:Colt-M-16-A-2-m723.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 723 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:LOWMenuM723-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the models poses with a Colt Model 723 during the DVD Menu.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-181167.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Girls with Colt Models 723 atop a T-72 tank during the Berlin Arms Fair.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-182121.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of one of the Colt Model 723 lying on the floor (next to the uniforms worn by the models).]]

==Heckler & Koch G3A3 (South African)==
A number of the South African variant of the [[Heckler & Koch G3A3]] can be seen in the pile of surplus rifles left in Lebanon by America peace keepers.
[[File:SouthAfricanG3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|South African version of the Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[File:Vlcsnap-182389.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A pair of the South African G3A3s are visible in the top right of the pile, and another in the bottom left.]]

==Henry US Survival Break-Down Rifle==
A [[Henry US Survival]] break-down rifle with a stainless steel finish, a matching Aimpoint CompM2 reflex sight, and a wire stock is seen in Yuri's weapons container.
[[Image:Henry US Survival.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Henry US Survival .22 LR with Aimpoint CompM2 reflex sight. The weapon seen here belongs to Weapons Specialists, Ltd., the New York-based prop house which supplied the weapons for the New York scenes of '''''Lord of War''''', so this gun is probably the exact same one seen in the film.]]
[[Image:LOWUnknownPistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Henry US Survival circled in red.]]

== Karabiner 98k ==

A [[Karabiner 98k]] bolt-action rifle can be seen in the hands of an Afghan Mudjahideen rebel during the montage where Yuri describes the growth of his business. The rifle has a straight bolt unlike a genuine 98k but has the indentation in the stock under the bolt indicating this gun is built off of several Mauser variants.

[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98K - 7.92x57mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-104476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Mudjahideen armed with a Karabiner 98K]]‎

==L1A1 SLR==
André Baptiste Sr.'s ([[Eamonn Walker]]) escort soldiers are seen armed with [[FN FAL#L1A1|L1A1 SLR]]s.
[[Image:L1A1-SLR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|L1A1 SLR - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:LOWL1A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of André Baptiste Sr.'s escorts with an L1A1 SLR.]]

==M16A1 with A2 Handguards==
Two Lebanese soldiers are seen using [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1s with M16A2-style handguards]] to execute Palestinian guerillas. One is also seen in Yuri Orlov's weapons container.
[[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with A2 handguards - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-179366.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Lebanese soldier closest to the camera prepares to fire his M16A1 with A2 handguards. The soldier at the end has one as well.]]
[[Image:LOWM16A1wA2HG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M16A1 with A2 handguards hanging on the wall top left.]]

== M16A2 ==
In one of Yuri's first major sales, he procures hundreds of surplus [[M16 rifle series#M16A2|M16A2]] rifles left in Lebanon by America peace keepers, which he sells to the leader of a Lebanese Maronite militia (probably the real-life Phalange) in a joint deal with a corrupt American military officer named Lt. Colonel Southern (a reference to Lt. Colonel Oliver North, who in real life helped sell American-made weaponry "under the table" to proxy forces).

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-182389.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A pile of American M16A2s left over in Lebanon (some AKs and [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s are also visible in the pile). ]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-183078.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of one of the M16s in the pile (the weapon is actually an AR-15, as can be seen by the receiver. It also appears to have suffered damage to the upper receiver just above the magazine well and is missing the bolt catch).]]

==Norinco Model 311==
One of the [[M16 rifle series#Norinco Model 311|Norinco Model 311]] is inside the surplus [[M16 rifle series#M16A2|M16A2]] rifles left in Lebanon by America peace keepers.

[[Image:-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Model 311 (CQ 5.56) - 5.56x45mm NATO]]

[[Image:Vlcsnap-182389.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A pile of American M16A2s left over in Lebanon. An [[M16 rifle series#Norinco Model 311|Norinco Model 311]] in front of right ,note the stock.]]

== M40A3 rifle ==
An [[Remington 700#M40 Sniper Rifle|M40A3 sniper rifle]] with a Harris Bipod and a high-powered scope is seen in Yuri's weapons container..
[[Image:M40a3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M40A3, 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:LOWSniperRifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M40A3 sniper rifle is sitting on the table.]]

==Norinco Type 56-1==
As in many Hollywood movies, one of the most common AK derivatives seen in the film is the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]], the Chinese copy of the [[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]], with its distinctive hooded front sight. In fact, AKs of this type are seen being used by the ex-USSR soldiers in Ukraine during the early-1990s (which is highly inaccurate, because Soviet troops would never use Chinese-made weapons and the 7.62x39mm AKs had been phased out of Russian service at the time of the scene, anyway). Many of the Type 56-1s seen in the movie have been visually modified to pass for [[AKMS]] rifles - they have been fitted with the ribbed receiver cover (Chinese AKs normally have smooth) and the wider front grip.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 56-1 AK rifle with underfolder stock - 7.62x39mm (Chinese copy of [[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]])]]
[[Image:LOWType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Russian Mobster fires his Norinco Type 56-1 during a hit in a restaurant. Note that the folding stock has been removed.]]
[[Image:LOWType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Soviet troop in Ukraine erroneously holding a Norinco Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:LOWType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Soviet mechanic working on the Hind (played by Nicholas Cage's son [[Weston Cage]]) aims his Norinco Type 56-1 at the Interpol agents.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-184419.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Afghan Mujahideen fires a Norinco Type 56-1 (note that in real life, the CIA in cooperation with China and Pakistan supplied many Type 56 rifles to the Mujahideen to fight the Soviet troops in Afghanistan.) This particular Chinese Type 56 has the ribbed top cover of an AKM - the Chinese AKs have smooth top covers.]]
[[Image:LOWType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Africans clear out a box in Yuri's plane filled with Norinco Type 56-1s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-213609.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The R.U.F. rebel commander fires a Norinco Type 56-1 at Vitaly Orlov ([[Jared Leto]]) after he blows up a truck full of arms intended for the rebels.]]

In Yuri's gun container, a nickel-plated Norinco Type 56-1 with ivory furniture and a Romanian-style folding grip is seen, which is the same prop used in the film ''[[Belly]]''.
[[Image:BellyNorincoType56-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nickel plated Norinco Type 56-1 used in ''[[Belly]]''.]]
[[Image:LOWBellyAK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The custom Norinco Type 56-1 circled in red.]]

==SA Vz.58 Assault Rifle==
In Ukraine, a Russian stockpile of weaponry consists of thousands of Kalashnikovs, which are in fact [[SA Vz.58 assault rifle]]s standing in. According to Director Andrew Niccol in the DVD commentary, the guns were real guns rented from a real arms dealer, as it was cheaper for the production to rent 3,000 real guns than to rent 3,000 blank converted props.

[[Image:800px-Sa 58-JH01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SA Vz.58 - 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:LOWSAVz58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Thousands of SA Vz.58s are seen in the Soviet armory.]]
[[Image:LOWSAVz58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the distinctive shape of the stocks, indicating they are not AK-47s.]]

==Smith & Wesson 3000==
A [[Smith & Wesson 3000 Shotgun]] with a side-folding stock is seen in Yuri's weapons container.

[[File:S&WModel3000FoldingStockExt.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Smith & Wesson 3000with folding stock - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:LOWRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Smith & Wesson 3000 circled in red.]]

==Vektor R5==
A Lebanese soldier is seen using an [[Galil|Vektor R5]] to execute Palestinian guerillas. It is noted as being a Vektor R5 and not a Galil SAR by the bulge on the end of the gas tube just behind the front sight, which prevents the handguard retaining clip from moving unless the rifle is disassembled.

[[Image:VektorR5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Vektor R5 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-179366.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Lebanese soldier (second in line) fires his IMI Galil SAR.]]

=Machine Guns=

==FN MAG-58==
When Yuri sells Communist made ammunition to fascists in Borneo, one of the fascist soldiers is seen manning an [[FN MAG|FN MAG-58]] mounted on a jeep.
[[Image:FNMAG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN MAG-58 - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:LOWFNMAG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A fascist soldier mans an FN MAG-58.]]

== M60 Machine Gun ==

While doing business with André Baptiste, André Baptiste Jr. requests that Yuri get him what he calls "the gun of Rambo"; an [[M60 machine gun]]. Upon receiving it, he is seen firing the gun at random civilians while driving in the truck to do business with the R.U.F. in Sierra Leone. An M60 is also seen on the Coast Guard boat when Jack Valentine is about to board the Kristol/Kono.

[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:LOWM60-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 machine gun mounted on Jack Valentine's boat.]]
[[Image:LOWM60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|André Baptiste Jr. hangs out of the transport truck window manning his new "gun of Rambo".]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-211124.jpg|thumb|none|600px|André Baptiste Jr. fires the M60 with sadistic glee at civilians in Sierra Leone.]]

=Launchers and Grenades=
== RPG-7 ==

Another frequently-seen weapon in the film is the [[RPG-7]]. In one scene, Yuri gives away a whole plane full of weapons, including RPG's, to peasants to avoid being caught with them by Interpol agents. Interestingly, the flight scene shows that the launchers are armed, having live rockets mounted...never a very safe way to fly.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:LOWRPG-7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An [[RPG-7]] in an African's house.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-199860.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yuri hands out [[RPG-7]]s to civilians as he attempts to get rid of all evidence before Interpol catches him.]]

== RGD-5 Hand Grenade ==

Near the end of the film, Vitaly uses [[RGD-5 hand grenade]]s to try to destroy the weapons his brother is selling to the R.U.F. in exchange for conflict diamonds, but only manages to destroy one truck.

[[Image:Rdg5.jpg|thumb|none|200px|RGD-5 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:LOWRGD5-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|African Civilians cleaning out Yuri's plane take [[RGD-5 hand grenade]]s out of a crate.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-107037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vitaly opens a crate of [[RGD-5 hand grenade]]s.]]

== Trivia ==

NATO had to be notified during the filming of the line of tanks and armor when Yuri visits the Ukrainian base, otherwise they would have appeared to be part of a war mobilization from satellite images.
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Robert Beltran

2013-05-17T07:24:58Z

Btgr:

[[Image:comet9.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Robert Beltran as Hector Gomez with a M1911 pistol in ''[[Night of the Comet]]'' (1984).]]
[[Image:Robert Beltran-M-16.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Robert Beltran as Eddie Guerrero holds an [[M16A1]] assault rifle in ''[[Latino]]'' (1985).]]

'''Robert Beltran can be seen using the following weapons in the following films and television series:'''

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Gun'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[MAC-10]] || Kayo Ramos || ''[[Lone Wolf McQuade]]''|| || 1983
|-
| [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] || Kayo Ramos || ''[[Lone Wolf McQuade]]''|| || 1983
|-
| [[Ruger Mini-14]] || Kayo Ramos || ''[[Lone Wolf McQuade]]''|| || 1983
|-
| [[M16A1]] || Kayo Ramos || ''[[Lone Wolf McQuade]]''|| || 1983
|-
| [[M72 LAW]] || Kayo Ramos || ''[[Lone Wolf McQuade]]''|| || 1983
|-
| [[Iver Johnson Revolver]] || Hector Gomez || ''[[Night of the Comet]]''|| || 1984
|-
| [[M1911|M1911 pistol]] || Hector Gomez || ''[[Night of the Comet]]''|| || 1984
|-
| [[Uzi]] || Hector Gomez || ''[[Night of the Comet]]''|| Wooden stock || 1984
|-
| [[M1911|M1911A1 pistol]] || Eddie Guerrero || ''[[Latino]]''|| || 1985
|-
| [[M16A1]] || Eddie Guerrero || ''[[Latino]]''|| || 1985
|-
| [[SPAS-12]] || Eddie Guerrero || ''[[Latino]]''|| || 1985
|-
|}

=== Television ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Gun'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]] || Chakotay || ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' || "Nemesis" (S04E04), Mocked up as alien weapon || 1997
|-
| [[AKU-94]] || Chakotay || ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' || "Nemesis" (S04E04), Mocked up as alien weapon || 1997
|-
| [[M1 Garand]] || Chakotay || ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' || "The Killing Game, Part II" (S04E19) || 1998
|-
| [[M1911A1]] || Chakotay || ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' || "The Killing Game, Part II" (S04E19) || 1998
|-
|}

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Latino

2013-05-14T08:44:38Z

Btgr: /* FN FAL */

{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Latino
|picture = Latino-DVD.jpg
|caption = ''DVD Cover''
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|director = Haskell Wexler
|date= 1985
|language = English
|studio= Lucasfilm
|distributor=CBS/Fox
|character1=Eddie Guerrero
|actor1=[[Robert Beltran]]
|character2=Marlena
|actor2=Annette Charles
|character3=Ruben
|actor3=[[Tony Plana]]
|character4=Becket
|actor4=[[Michael Goodwin]]
|character5=Salazar
|actor5=[[Julio Medina]]
}}

'''''Latino''''' is a 1985 war film from noted director/cinematographer Haskell Wexler. Vietnam veteran Eddie Guerrero ([[Robert Beltran]]) travels to Nicaragua to train ‘contras’ and when influenced by love for a local woman, begins to doubt the justice of the mission.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the film ''Latino'':'''

__TOC__ 

== M1911A1 pistol ==
Eddie Guerrero ([[Robert Beltran]]) carries a [[M1911A1]] pistol. Marlena's son (Juan Carlos Ortiz) finds gun in Eddie's bag.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1911A1 pistole - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:RB-L-M1911A1-01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:LT-L-M1911A1-01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:LT-L-M1911A1-02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== M16A1 assault rifle ==
Eddie Guerrero ([[Robert Beltran]]) and some ''Contras'' soldiers use [[M-16]] assault rifles.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M16A1 with 30 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:RB-L-M16-AR-01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Eddie Guerrero (Robert Beltran) (right) carries his weapon.]]
[[Image:L-C-M16-AR-01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''Contras'' soldiers in a village.]]

== FN FAL ==
''Contras'' soldiers were also equipped with [[FN FAL]] battle rifles.
[[Image:FN_FAL_50_00.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL 50.00 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:L-C-FN-FAL-01.jpg|none|thumb|500px|A Contras soldier (left) holds a FN FAL rifle in his hand.]]
[[Image:L-S-FN-FAL-01.jpg|none|thumb|500px|Forcibly recruited Luis aims his FN FAL at Eddie.]]
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== Norinco Type 56 ==
Soldiers ''FSLN'' and some villagers carry [[Norinco Type 56]] assault rifles.
[[Image:Early_type_56.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56, early milled receiver model with under-folding ("pig sticker") bayonet - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:L-S-AK-47AR-01.jpg|none|thumb|500px|]]
[[Image:L-S-AK47AR-02.jpg|none|thumb|500px|]]
[[Image:Type 56 export model.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56 (M22 code instead of the factory symbol as it was built for export) lacking the under-folding ("pig sticker") bayonet - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:L-S-Nor-56-01.jpg|none|thumb|500px|]]
[[Image:L-S-Nor-56-02.jpg|none|thumb|500px|]]

== Czech Vz. 52 Rifle ==
Some sandinistas carry [[Czech Vz. 52 Rifle]]s on their back.
[[Image:VZ52Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Czech VZ52 rifle, sometimes called the CZ52 or the S.H.E. rifle, is a carbine that was chambered in both 7.62x45mm and 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:L-S-U-RiF-01.jpg‎|none|thumb|500px|]]
[[Image:L-S-U-RiF-02.jpg‎|none|thumb|500px|]]

==FN MAG 58 machine gun==
''Contras'' received into the arms [[FN MAG 58]] machine guns.
[[Image:Mag58postb.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|FN MAG 58 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:L-C-FN-MAG58-01.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun ==
Ruben ([[Tony Plana]]) tested a [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG]]
[[Image:TP-L-B-M2HB-01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:TP-L-B-M2HB-02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== 25mm Orion Flare Gun ==
Villagers set a trap made with a [[25mm Orion Flare Gun]].
[[Image:ORION_25mm.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Orion flare gun - 25mm]]
[[Image:L-S-Flare-P-01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:L-S-Flare-P-02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==M79 grenade launcher==
Contras is seen with a [[M79 grenade launcher]] on his back.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm]]
[[Image:L-C-M72-LAW.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

== RPG-7 launcher ==
Contras carries a [[RPG-7]] launcher on his shoulder.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:L-C-RPG-7-L.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== M2 Mortar ==
Contras firing from a [[M2 Mortar]]s at the sandist´s village.
[[Image:M2Mortar60mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M2 Mortar - 60mm]]
[[Image:L-C-M224-M-01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:L-C-M224-M-02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

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Talk:Latino

2013-05-14T08:00:09Z

Btgr: /* Missing Guns */ new section

== Mortar ==
This mortar has a shorter barrel than M224, and the baseplate is square, not round. It looks rather like [[M2 Mortar|M2]]. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:03, 10 April 2013 (EDT) Thx, Greg!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 06:23, 10 April 2013 (EDT)

== Missing Guns ==

I saw a [[MAC 10]] submachine gun, an [[M20A1 "Super Bazooka"]], an [[M60 Machine Gun]], [[Maadi ARM]] assault rifles and [[SPAS-12]] shotguns in this movie. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 04:00, 14 May 2013 (EDT)

24

2013-05-12T08:17:22Z

Btgr: It's confirmed there will be an Indian 24.

{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}
|name= 24
|picture = 24Season1.jpg
|caption = Season 1 cover
|country = [[File:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|channel = FOX
|genre = Espionage Action
|creator = Joel Surnow Robert Cochran
|dates = 2001 - 2010
|seasons = 8
|episodes = 192
|character1=Jack Bauer
|actor1=[[Kiefer Sutherland]]
|character2=Chloe O'Brian
|actor2=[[Mary Lynn Rajskub]]
|character3=Kim Bauer
|actor3=[[Elisha Cuthbert]]
}}
'''24''' was an American television action series that starred [[Kiefer Sutherland]] as Jack Bauer, an agent for government agency known as the Counter Terrorism Unit (CTU). The show is notable for having each episode occur in real time (including commercial breaks). Each season encompassed a 24 hour period (hence the name "24") in Jack Bauer's life as he attempted to thwart a dire threat to the country. The series, which aired on the FOX network for eight seasons from 2001 to 2010, also inspired a video game ([[24: The Game]]), a television movie (''[[24: Redemption]]'') and an Indian remake TV series.
<div style="text-align: center;">
<gallery perrow=4>
Image:24Season1.jpg‎|[[24 - Season 1|Season 1]] (2001)
Image:24Season2.jpg‎|[[24 - Season 2|Season 2]] (2002)
Image:24Season3.jpg‎|[[24 - Season 3|Season 3]] (2003-2004)
Image:24Season4.jpg‎|[[24 - Season 4|Season 4]] (2005)
Image:24season5.jpg‎|[[24 - Season 5|Season 5]] (2006)
Image:24Season6.jpg‎|[[24 - Season 6|Season 6]] (2007)
Image:24 Season 7 DVD Cover.jpg|[[24 - Season 7|Season 7]] (2009)
Image:24S8.jpg|[[24 - Season 8|Season 8]] (2010)
Image:24.jpg|[[24: The Game]] (2006)
Image:24- Redemption.jpg|[[24: Redemption]] (2008)
</gallery>
</div>

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[[Category:Espionage]]

T.J. Ramini

2013-05-08T09:52:33Z

Btgr: He had a gun on The Bill.

'''T.J. Ramini can be seen using the following firearms in the following television series:'''

[[Image:NCIS GPMG.jpg|thumb|right|400px|T.J. Ramini as Malachi Ben-Gidon on ''[[NCIS]]''.]]

== Television ==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Gun'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="100"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Walther PPK/S]] || DC Zain Nadir || ''[[The Bill]]'' || Unloaded || 2005-2007
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS]] || Tarin Faroush || ''[[24 - Season 8]]'' || || 2009-2010
|-
| [[Non Guns#Beretta 92F|Beretta 92F Non Gun]] || Tarin Faroush || ''[[24 - Season 8]]'' || || 2009-2010
|-
| [[Makarov PM]] || Tarin Faroush || ''[[24 - Season 8]]'' || || 2009-2010
|-
| [[FN P90]] ||Malachi Ben-Gidon || ''[[NCIS]]'' || || 2009
|-
| [[M1911A1]] ||Malachi Ben-Gidon || ''[[NCIS]]'' || || 2009
|-
| [[Glock 17]] ||Malachi Ben-Gidon || ''[[NCIS]]'' || || 2011

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Talk:Counter-Strike: Source

2013-04-28T10:32:29Z

Btgr: /* One Question */

Sorry if i bothered you, but it's best if the pictures have descriptions like in other articles. I play this game, but i can't get in-game screenshots because i am a "weapon skin whore" and have all my guns replaced with skins. I don't know the weapons in-game names, just the real-life ones. - [[User:Flying Dane|Flying Dane]]

I'm going to start adding screenshots in a short while. It's no bother at all :)

If the Berettas are .40s, shouldn't they be called "Beretta ''96''G Elite II"?--[[Special:Contributions/141.165.143.210|141.165.143.210]] 23:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
*they should, but the hud shows 9mm. Which indicates 92g elite II.
keep in mind that counter strike guns arent realistic, for example, the IMI galil is suposed to fire 5,56; but the skin shown is for a 7,62 one.

== One Question ==

Do you hate FPS games when none of the enemies you killed drop ammo for you to pick up or that you can't take their weapons?? --unsigned

:Yes. TVTropes has [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnusableEnemyEquipment a page on that] you might find interesting. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 15:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

::What does this have to do with CS Source? Just press G to drop your weapon and pick up the fallen one, you will get ammo as well. --[[User:Devang.dn|Devang.dn]] 13:02, 14 March 2011 (CDT)

You can't pick up enemy weapons in Counter Strike: Condition Zero Deleted Scenes. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 06:32, 28 April 2013 (EDT)

== Inverted Weapons ? / M4 reloading animation ==

Hi, is it just me, or do all the weapons appear inverted for some reason (unless you switch you orientation to left handed). Is there a reason for this?
Also, I haven't had much hands on experience with an M4, but why does it show the gun being cocked by the forward assist? Does that even work in real life, why not just pull the charging handle?
:Valve doesn't do anything realistic about most of their guns, they aren't a valid source for information on guns since they either a. Don't know any better b. Too lazy to make it more realistic. For example if Counter Strike was any realistic at all, the Desert Eagle/Night Hawk wouldn't have such a massiv amount of fans or be acknowlegded at being the best gun in the game.--[[Special:Contributions/194.182.87.97|194.182.87.97]] 23:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::CS was an independent third-party mod to HL. Creators of it made weapons appear in this way because:
::-Thought it looked better (but they included lefty option for a reason)
::-Copyright reasons (note weapon names also)
::Later Valve bought the rights when they saw its huge popularity.

From what I heard the weapons were left handed b/c most of the original mod team were leftys.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 01:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

To the person asking about the forward assist pulling, that error was apparently fixed when the M4 got a new set of animations for Condition Zero. The draw animation involved racking the charging handle followed by a hard tap on the forward assist. Sadly, this animation wasn't carried over into Source, where it still used Gooseman's original inaccurate animations. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 00:28, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

== Menu screen ==

Could someone put the CAR-15 on this page, as its seen held by the CT's in the menu background?--[[User:Jaffaceksi|Jaffaceksi]] 22:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Glock 18 - Worth mentioning ? ==

The Glock's stats of a 20 round magazine and 3 round burst are more like the Beretta 93R than the full auto Glock 18. Can this be slipped somewhere in the article? --[[User:Devang.dn|Devang.dn]] 13:05, 14 March 2011 (CDT)

== M4A1 ==

Maybe it is just me but I cannot see the rails below the carry handle. I looks pretty fixed to me, which means you know what... [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 07:49, 2 May 2011 (CDT)

JFK

2013-04-27T09:53:12Z

Btgr: "Murder" sounds like a better term.

[[Image:JFK poster.jpeg|thumb|right|300px|''JFK'' (1991)]]

'''''JFK''''' is a 1991 drama directed by [[Oliver Stone]] and stars [[Kevin Costner]] as Jim Garrison, the New Orleans District Attorney who comes to believe that there was an conspiracy behind the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The film's cast included [[Tommy Lee Jones]], [[Kevin Bacon]], [[Ed Asner]], [[Jack Lemmon]], [[Walter Matthau]], [[Michael Rooker]], [[John Candy]] and [[Joe Pesci]].

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=Rifles=
==Carcano M91/38==
The infamous rifle allegedly used by Oswald is the [[Carcano Rifle Series#Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle|Carcano M91/38]]. In several flashbacks, it's seen fired not only by Lee Harvey Oswald ([[Gary Oldman]]), but a fake Oswald ([[Frank Whaley]]) as well. Both Lou Ivan ([[Jay O. Sanders]]) and Jim Garrison are seen holding it while sitting in the depository window.
[[Image:CarcanoM91-38ShortRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle - 6.5mm.]]
[[Image:JFK 005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lou Ivan ([[Jay O. Sanders]]) is seen working the Carcano rifle in an attempt to duplicate Oswald's shots.]]
[[Image:JFK 004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jim Garrison ([[Kevin Costner]]) holds Oswald's Carcano rifle as he re-enacts the infamous shot.]]
[[Image:JFK 019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"I'm sorry, buddy! I thought I was shooting at the son-of-a-b**** Kennedy!" A man posing as Oswald ([[Frank Whaley]]) uses the Carcano to shoot at another man's target.]]
[[Image:JFK 017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lee Harvey Oswald ([[Gary Oldman]]) fires the Carcano in Garrison's description of the scene.]]

==M1903 Springfield==
The Cuban rebels who are trained by the CIA are seen carrying [[M1903 Springfield]] rifles during their drills. Lee Harvey Oswald appears to be cleaning a disassembled Springfield when he's greeted by Willie O'Keefe ([[Kevin Bacon]]).
[[Image:M1903Mark1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06]]
[[Image:JFK 024.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuban rebels train with M1903 Springfield rifles.]]
[[Image:JFK 002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lee Harvey Oswald appears to be cleaning a disassembled Springfield when he's greeted by Willie O'Keefe ([[Kevin Bacon]]).]]
[[Image:JFK 027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Oswald holds a Springfield while Cuban rebels are being trained.]]

==M1903 Springfield A1 USMC with 8x Unertl scope==
During Garrison's explanation of the assassination, a killer's team "ACME" uses what appears to be a [[M1903A1 Springfield]] with Unertl 8x scope to fire at the President.
[[Image:IMG_1712.JPG|thumb|none|500px|M1903A1 Springfield sniper rifle with 7.8x Unertl scope - .30-06]]
[[Image:Jfk_1903a1_00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the conspirators sets up his M1903 A1 with Unertl 8x.]]
[[Image:Jfk_1903a1_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The sniper takes aim with the the M1903 A1.]]
[[Image:Jfk_1903a1_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of Unertl 8x scope.]]

==Winchester Model 70==
During Garrison's explanation of the assassination, the "Grassy Knoll" shooter appears to be armed with a [[Winchester Model 70]].
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]
[[Image:JFK 731.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During Garrison's explanation of the assassination, the "Grassy Knoll" shooter appears to be armed with a [[Winchester Model 70]].]]
[[Image:JFK 732.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Grassy Knoll" shooter fires the [[Winchester Model 70]].]]

=Handguns=
==Colt M1911A1==
The [[M1911A1]] is seen on a dresser in the apartment of David Ferrie ([[Joe Pesci]]). When Garrison explains a theory regarding the shooting of Officer J.D. Tippit, a gunman is seen using what appears to be an [[M1911A1]] on the Dallas policeman.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|World War II issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:JFK 007.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M1911A1 is seen on the right side of Ferrie's dresser.]]
[[Image:JFK 738.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Garrison explains a theory regarding the shooting of Officer J.D. Tippit, a gunman is seen using what appears to be an [[M1911A1]] on the Dallas policeman.]]

==Colt Cobra==
Jack Ruby ([[Brian Doyle-Murray]]) uses what appears to be a [[Colt Cobra]] to assassinate Lee Harvey Oswald ([[Gary Oldman]]). The Colt Cobra was the revolver used by the real Ruby.
[[Image:colt_cobra_hammerless.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Cobra - .38 Special, hammerless.]]
[[Image:JFK 720.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jack Ruby ([[Brian Doyle-Murray]]) uses what appears to be a [[Colt Cobra]] to assassinate Lee Harvey Oswald ([[Gary Oldman]]).]]

==Colt Detective Special==
As Garrison explains the government's theory of how a police officer was murdered, Lee Harvey Oswald ([[Gary Oldman]]) is seen using what appears to be a [[Colt Detective Special]] to murder Officer J.D. Tippit.
[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:JFK 718.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lee Harvey Oswald ([[Gary Oldman]]) is seen using what appears to be a [[Colt Detective Special]] to murder Officer J.D. Tippit.]]
[[Image:JFK 719.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Oswald fires the revolver at Tippit.]]
[[Image:JFK 030.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Federal agent holds the revolver during the raid on the rebel camp.]]

== Smith & Wesson Military and Police Revolver ==
A [[Smith & Wesson Military & Police]] appears to be the revolver carried by officers of the Dallas Police Department. Officer Baker is seen pulling his revolver when confronting Oswald at the Book Depository. Officer Tippit appears to be pull this revolver when confronted by Oswald.
[[Image:S&W M&PSHORT.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Smith & Wesson Model M&P Revolver - .38 Special]]
[[Image:JFK 714.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Baker is seen pulling his revolver when confronting Oswald at the Book Depository.]]
[[Image:JFK 719.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Tippit appears to be pull this revolver when confronted by Oswald.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 19==
Guy Bannister ([[Ed Asner]]) appears to use a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19]] revolver to strike Jack Martin ([[Jack Lemmon]]).
[[Image:Smith&Wesson-Model-19.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Combat Magnum - .357 Magnum]]
[[File:JFK 710.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Guy Bannister ([[Ed Asner]]) appears to use a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19]] revolver to strike Jack Martin ([[Jack Lemmon]]).]]
[[File:JFK 020.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Guy Bannister ([[Ed Asner]]) with the revolver holstered.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
Lou Ivan ([[Jay O. Sanders]]) appears to be carry a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] in his hip holster while speaking with Garrison at the beginning of the film about Oswald's Carcano.
[[Image:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special - 5 shot. First pattern with flat latch cylinder release.]]
[[File:JFK 707.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lou Ivan ([[Jay O. Sanders]]) appears to be carry a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] in his hip holster while speaking with Garrison at the beginning of the film about Oswald's Carcano.]]

=Shotguns=
== Ithaca 37 ==
When Garrison goes to visit Willie O'Keefe ([[Kevin Bacon]]) in prison, some of the guards in the field are armed with [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns.
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 12 gauge]]
[[Image:JFK 703.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Garrison goes to visit Willie O'Keefe ([[Kevin Bacon]]) in prison, some of the guards in the field are armed with [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns.]]
[[Image:JFK 029.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

=Submachine Guns=
==M1A1 Thompson==
In a flashback, Ferrie is seen firing an [[M1A1 Thompson]] as he trains Cuban rebels.
[[Image:M1sb.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine .45 ACP]]
[[Image:JFK 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|David Ferrie ([[Joe Pesci]]) trains rebels while carrying his M1A1 Thompson.]]

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Southland - Season 5

2013-04-13T21:31:11Z

Btgr: /* Smith & Wesson Model 19 */

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[[File:SouthlS2 00.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Southland'' - Season 5 (2013)]]

'''The following weapons can be seen in Season 5 of the series ''[[Southland]]'':'''

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=Handguns=
==Glock 22==
Officer Ben Sherman ([[Ben McKenzie]]) continues to carry the .40 caliber [[Glock 22]] (which is the standard-issue handgun for the LAPD). Other officers and detectives also carry the Glock 22, including Det. Ruben Robinson ([[Dorian Missick]]), Officer Dave Mendoza ([[Chad Michael Murray]]), and Officer Gary Steele ([[Derek Ray]]).
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 22 - .40 S&W]]
[[File:SouthlS5E02_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Ben Sherman ([[Ben McKenzie]]) has his .40 caliber [[Glock 22]] (which is the standard-issue handgun for the LAPD) at the ready while chasing down a fleeing suspect in "Heat" (S5E02).]]
[[File:SouthLS5E01_09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Hats and Bats" (S5E01), Officer Ben Sherman ([[Ben McKenzie]]) draws the Glock 22 on a shooting suspect. ]]
[[File:SouthLS5E01_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Hats and Bats" (S5E01), Officer Gary Steele ([[Derek Ray]]) keeps his Glock leveled at a suspect in a pawn shop.]]
[[Image:SouthlS5E03_08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Ben Sherman clears an entrance with his Glock 22 when he hears gunfire from an active shooter in "Babel" (S5E03).]]
[[Image:SouthlS5E03_11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Sherman searches for the shooter in a gymnasium with his Glock 22 at the ready in "Babel" (S5E04).]]
[[Image:SouthlS5E03_16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Sherman winces at the deafening gun blast that blows out his ear drum with his Glock 22 in hand in "Babel" (S5E03).]]
[[Image:SouthlS5E03_25.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Sherman fires his Glock 22 at the suspect alongside Bryant, who is next to him, and fellow officers in "Babel" (S5E03).]]
[[Image:Medoza.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A production image from "Hats and Bats" (S5E01) shows Officer Dave Mendoza praising Officer Ben Sherman after Sherman receives a Medal of Valor. Mendoza's Glock 22 can be seen holstered on his hip.]]

==Beretta 92FS==
Several LAPD officers and detectives carry the [[Beretta 92FS]] as their sidearm, including Officer Sammy Bryant ([[Shawn Hatosy]]), Officer Bill "Dewey" Dudek ([[C. Thomas Howell]]), Sergeant Hill ([[Jamie McShane]]), Sergeant Waters (Lesley Fera), and Officer Hank Lucero ([[Anthony Ruivivar]]). In "Babel" (S5E03), Bryant uses his Beretta to trade fire with an active shooter and later bring the shooter down aside fellow officers. Lucero uses his Beretta in a felony stop (inspired by an episode of ''COPS''), with the hammer cocked back in single-action, which most officers refrain from using unless they are already engaged with their weapon in a gunfight.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SouthLS5E01_10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Sammy Bryant ([[Shawn Hatosy]]) draws his Beretta on a shooting suspect in "Hats and Bats" (S5E01).]]
[[File:SouthLS5E02 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Heat" (S5E02), a man who opens fire on Cooper and Steele tries to clear his jammed Beretta.]]
[[File:SouthLS5E02 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Heat" (S5E02), the Beretta is more clearly seen in the suspect's left hand.]]
[[Image:SLS5E03Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Bryant has his Beretta drawn while covering Officer Sherman in "Babel" (S5E03).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|601px|After exchanging fire with a shooter, Officer Bryant advances with his Beretta drawn as he glances at a deafened Officer Sherman in "Babel" (S5E03).]]
[[Image:SouthlS5E03_25.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Bryant, second from the front, fires his Beretta at the active shooter alongside Sherman and fellow officers in "Babel" (S5E03).]]
[[File:SouthlS5E03_18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Babel" (S5E03), Officer Hank Lucero ([[Anthony Ruivivar]]) draws his Beretta during a felony stop. The Beretta is in double-action configuration in this screencap, but it is cocked back in single-action later in the scene, which most officers refrain from using unless they are already engaged with their weapon in a gunfight.]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E06(3).jpg|thumb|none|601px|''"Hands on your head!"'' Officer Lucero draws his Beretta on a knife-wielding suspect in "Bleed Out" (S5E06).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E07(1).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Bryant draws his Beretta to clear a home in "Heroes" (S5E07).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(3).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Lucero clears a corner with his Beretta while serving a search warrant with fellow officers in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(4).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Lucero opens fire into a closed closet alongside two other officers when a suspect shoots through the door in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E09(1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A suspect holds Lucero's Beretta on him and Cooper after they are kidnapped and tortured in "Chaos" (S5E09).]]

==Smith & Wesson 5906==
Officer John Cooper ([[Michael Cudlitz]]) continues to carry the [[Smith & Wesson 5906]] as his duty sidearm. This weapon is on the LAPD approved carry list. In "Heat" (S5E02), Cooper is seen using his 5906 to trade shots with a suspect who fired on him and Steele.
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SouthLS5E01_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer John Cooper ([[Michael Cudlitz]]) keeps his [[Smith & Wesson 5906]] at the ready while taking a suspect into custody in "Hats and Bats" (S5E01).]]
[[Image:SouthLS5E02 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Cooper using his Smith & Wesson 5906 to trade shots with an armed suspect in "Heat" (S5E02). Notice the motto "to serve and protect" on the door; this is a fictitious slogan based on the LAPD's actual motto, "to ''protect'' and ''to serve''". This is one of the few subtleties on the show to prevent the actors from being mistaken as actual police officers.]]
[[Image:SouthLS5E02 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"Steele!"'' Cooper keeps his Smith & Wesson 5906 trained on the downed suspect as he checks on his partner in "Heat" (S5E02).]]
[[Image:SouthLS5E02 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cooper keeps his Smith & Wesson 5906 at the ready after the shooting in "Heat" (S5E02).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E06(7).jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"You in the car, stop moving!"'' Cooper advances on a suspect in a patrol car who blindly fired a revolver at him and his fellow officers in "Bleed Out" (S5E06).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E06(1).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Cooper searches for a suspect with his Smith & Wesson 5906 drawn after finding blood in an empty house in "Bleed Out" (S5E06).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E06(2).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Cooper orders a suspect to come out from behind a shed with his Smith & Wesson 5906 at the ready in "Bleed Out" (S5E06).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E09(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cooper surrenders his Smith & Wesson 5906 to a suspect who gets the drop on him and Lucero in "Chaos" (S5E09).]]

==Smith & Wesson 4506==
In "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08), two LAPD officers serving a search warrant with Officers Cooper and Lucero carry the [[Smith & Wesson 4506]], at one point using their sidearms to use deadly force against a suspect who shoots at them through a closed closet door. The Smith & Wesson 4506 is on the LAPD's approved carry list.
[[Image:S&W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 4506 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(4).jpg|thumb|none|601px|An LAPD officer behind Officer Lucero opens fire into the closet door with his [[Smith & Wesson 4506]] in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(5).jpg|thumb|none|601px|The LAPD officers on either side of Officer Lucero can both be seen with their Smith & Wesson 4506's drawn after the shooting in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08). The barrels are slightly longer than the Smith & Wesson 5906 that Officer Cooper carries. Note all of the handguns in this screenshot are in double-action configuration despite being fired only moments before; this indicates a separate take.]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08BTS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes image shows the LAPD officers to either side of Lucero discharging their Smith & Wesson 4506's in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]

==Smith & Wesson 3913==
Detective Lydia Adams ([[Regina King]]) continues to carry a [[Smith & Wesson 3913]] as her on-duty sidearm. She is juxtaposed with uniformed officers on the show in that she is not often seen drawing her weapon.
[[Image:3913.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 3913 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:SLS5E053913.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Detective Lydia Adams ([[Regina King]]) can be seen with her Smith & Wesson 3913 holstered in "Off-Duty" (S5E05).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(1).jpg|thumb|none|601px|''"Police! Drop the weapon!"'' Detective Adams orders a murder suspect to put his hands up after hearing gunshots in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]

==Smith & Wesson 3914==
Officer Sammy Bryant ([[Shawn Hatosy]]) carries a Smith & Wesson 3914, the blue-steel version of the 3913, as his off-duty firearm. In "Off-Duty" (S5E05), he draws it while working his second job as a celebrity bodyguard to defend himself and his client against a crazed suspect firing at vehicles in the street. He doesn't fire the weapon in the scene. In "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08), Bryant draws his 3914 when he comes home to find the aftermath of a break-in.
[[Image:S&W3914.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 3914 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:SouthLS5E05_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Sammy Bryant ([[Shawn Hatosy]]) draws what appears to be a Smith & Wesson 3914, the blue-steel version of the 3913, when he hears gunshots in "Off-Duty" (S5E05).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E05_3914.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Sammy Bryant takes cover with his Smith & Wesson 3914 drawn when a gunman opens fire in the street in "Off-Duty" (S5E05).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(2).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Bryant pulls his Smith & Wesson 3914 when he sees blood smeared on the wall after returning home in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]

==Kimber Custom TLE II==
In "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08), an officer that serves a search warrant carries a [[Kimber Custom TLE II]]. This is the standard-issue sidearm of LAPD SWAT.
[[Image:KimberCustomTLEII Plain.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Kimber Custom TLE II - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(6).jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08), Officer Huynh covers Officer Dudek ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) as a window is broken open. ]]

==Seecamp LWS==
A [[Seecamp LWS]] is confiscated from a suspect's young child by Officer Ben Sherman ([[Ben McKenzie]]) in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).
[[Image:SeecampLWS-32.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Seecamp LWS-32 - .32 ACP]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(8).jpg|thumb|none|601px|''"Woah, gun!"'' Officer Ben Sherman moves in to snatch a [[Seecamp LWS]] from a suspect's toddler when the child unexpectedly pulls it out in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]

=Revolvers=
===Smith & Wesson Model 60===
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] is used by a pawn shop employee in order to test a ballistic vest in "Hats and Bats" (S5E01). In "Bleed Out" (S5E06), a handcuffed suspect who was not searched is seen firing a single shot at Cooper ([[Michael Cudlitz]]) and Lucero ([[Anthony Ruivivar]]) among their fellow officers with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]].
[[Image:Classic60.jpg‎|300px|thumb|none|Classic Smith & Wesson Model 60 - .38 Special]]
[[File:SouthLS5E01_06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] is confiscated from a pawn shop employee by Officer Cooper after he fires several shots at the owner in order to test a ballistic vest in "Hats and Bats" (S5E01).]]
[[File:SouthlS5E06_304.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Cooper confiscates the [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] after a handcuffed suspect opens fire with it in "Bleed Out" (S5E06).]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
In "Under the Big Top" (S5E04), what appears to be a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] revolver is taken off a suspect during a search by Officer Cooper.
[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[File:SouthlS5E04_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Under the Big Top" (S5E04), what appears to be a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] revolver is taken off a suspect during a search by Cooper.]]
[[File:SouthlS5E04_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] revolver is seen in Lucero's left hand in "Under the Big Top" (S5E04).]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 19==
In "Bleed Out" (S5E06), Officer Cooper ([[Michael Cudlitz]]) finds a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19]] with rubber grips on on a table in Hicks' ([[Gerald McRaney]]), his former FTO, (Field Training Officer) boat where he resides. It is shown to be a Model 19 by the barrel underlug, which the Model 15 (the actual former LAPD-issue revolver) lacks.
[[Image:S&W19Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E06(4).jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Bleed Out" (S5E06), Cooper sees the cocked Smith & Wesson Model 19 on the table in Hicks' ([[Gerald McRaney]]) boat. This is likely Hicks' old LAPD service revolver, although in reality this revolver was not issued like the [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]].]]

=Shotguns=
==Remington 870 Police Riot Magnum==
The [[Remington 870]] Police Riot Magnum is the standard shotgun used by the LAPD in the series. In Season 5's premiere "Hats and Bats" (S5E01), an officer responding to a riot situation carries the modified Remington loaded with non-lethal beanbag rounds. In "Babel" (S5E03), an officer uses a live Remington 870 to volley-fire at an active shooter with Officers Sherman and Bryant when the shooter returns to the scene. Officer Bryant owns two Remington 870's (with black furniture) for home-defense, and is seen removing them both from a gun safe and giving one to Officer Sherman when Bryant receives a gang threat in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Remington 870 Police Riot - 12 Gauge]]
[[File:SouthLS5E01_13.jpg|thumb|none|600px| In Season 5's premiere "Hats and Bats" (S5E01), an officer responding to a riot situation carries the modified Remington loaded with non-lethal beanbag rounds (as evidenced by its green synthetic furniture).]]
[[File:SouthlS5E03_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Cooper holds the modified Remington in "Babel" (S5E03).]]
[[File:SouthlS5E03_23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Babel" (S5E03), an officer on the right fires a Remington 870 at an active shooter.]]
[[File:SouthlS5E06_302.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Bryant on the right holds the "non-lethal" Remington 870 while Sherman holds the live-firing Remington in "Bleed Out" (S5E06). Note actor [[Shawn Hatosy]]'s finger on the trigger, such firearm safety violations are rare on this show.]]
[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Remington 870 with early style black synthetic riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(10).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Bryant removes two Remington 870's from his home gun safe and hands one off to Officer Sherman after he receives a gang threat in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(9).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Sherman loads one of Officer Bryant's Remington 870's in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(11).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Bryant glances at Officer Sherman to show he is ready with his own Remington 870 in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]

==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==
In "Babel" (S5E03), what appears to be a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] with an extended mag tube is used by a white supremacist to perform an active shooter-style attack on an ESL support group at an LA community center. He fires the weapon in close proximity to Officer Sherman's ear when he blows a shot through an exterior doorway, temporarily deafening Sherman. The shooter escapes the scene, but later returns with the same Mossberg and fires it at the crowd of LAPD officers and civilians.
[[Image:Mossberg500cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser with extended magazine tube and heat shield - 12 Gauge]]
[[File:SouthlS5E03_13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Babel" (S5E03), an active shooter fires his Mossberg 500 Cruiser in close proximity to Officer Sherman's ear, causing temporary hearing loss. This is very likely a non-gun to ensure the actor's safety, as the shotgun has no recoil when fired.]]
[[File:SouthlS5E03_21.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Babel" (S5E03), the shooter later returns with the same Mossberg shotgun and fires two shots at the crowd of LAPD officers and civilians before being shot in a volley of gunfire from officers. Note the red shell being ejected to the left of the shot.]]

==Browning Auto-5==
In the episode "Chaos" (S5E09), one of the suspects who kidnaps Cooper and Lucero and is armed with a [[Browning Auto-5]] shotgun.
[[Image:BrowAut5.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Browning Auto 5 (pre WW2) - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:SouthLS5E09 02.jpg|thumb|none|602px|One of the suspects who kidnaps Cooper and Lucero and is armed with a [[Browning Auto-5]] shotgun in "Chaos" (S5E09).]]
[[Image:SouthLS5E09 05.jpg|thumb|none|602px|The suspect holds Cooper and Lucero hostage with a Browning Auto-5 in "Chaos" (S5E09).]]

=Rifles=
==AKMSU==
An [[AKMSU]] rifle is found by Officer Sherman next to an IMI Uzi in a drug dealer's home in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).
[[Image:AK-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMSU Krinkov - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(7).jpg|thumb|none|602px|Officer Sherman spots an AKMSU rifle lying in the closet of a gang member's home in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).]]

== Colt M4A1 ==
The [[Colt M4A1]] is carried by LAPD SWAT during a raid in "Chaos" (S5E09).
[[Image:M4 SWAT-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4A1 used in the film ''[[S.W.A.T. (2003)]]'' - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:SouthLS5E09 08.jpg|thumb|none|602px|The [[Colt M4A1]] with EOTech sights is carried by LAPD SWAT during a raid in "Chaos" (S5E09).]]

=Submachine Guns=
==IMI Uzi==
An [[Uzi]] submachine gun is found by Officer Sherman next to an AKMS in a drug dealer's home in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08).
[[Image:Uzi-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi with collapsible buttstock extended - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E08(7).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Sherman spots an Uzi submachine gun lying in the closet of a gang member's home in "The Felix Paradox" (S5E08). Note that the collapsible buttstock is extended.]]

=Other=
==Defense Technologies 1315 37mm Gas Gun==
In Season 5's premiere "Hats and Bats" (S5E01), Officer Bill "Dewey" Dudek ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) fires rubber bullets and tear gas from a [[S&W gas gun|Defense Technologies 1315]] launcher during a riot situation.
[[Image:DefTech1315.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DefTech 1315 - 37mm.]]
[[Image:SLHatsandBatsDTlauncher.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Production image of Officer Bill "Dewey" Dudek ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) with a [[S&W gas gun|Defense Technologies 1315]] during a riot situation in "Hats and Bats" (S1E01).]]
[[File:SouthLS5E01_15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In Season 5's premiere "Hats and Bats" (S5E01), Officer Dudek fires rubber bullets and tear gas from a [[S&W gas gun|Defense Technologies 1315]] gas launcher during a riot situation.]]

==X26 Taser==
In Season 5's premiere "Hats and Bats" (S5E01), Officer Dave Mendoza ([[Chad Michael Murray]]) uses an [[Taser#X26|X26 Taser]] to subdue an exotic dancer who removes his Glock 22 from its holster and fires it into the air several times. The Glock used in this scene appears to be a [[Non Guns#Glock|non-gun flashpaper replica]]. In "Off-Duty" (S5E05), Officer Hank Lucero ([[Anthony Ruivivar]]) uses the X26 Taser to stop a resisting suspect after the suspect attacks Officer Cooper.
[[Image:X26-tazer.jpg|thumb|none|300px|X26 Taser]]
[[File:SouthLS5E01_16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In Season 5's premiere "Hats and Bats" (S5E01), Officer Dave Mendoza ([[Chad Michael Murray]]) uses an [[Taser#X26|X26 Taser]] to subdue an exotic dancer who commandeers his Glock 22 and fires it into the air.]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E05Taser2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|''"Taser, Taser!"'' In "Off-Duty" (S5E05), Officer Lucero prepares to deploy the X26 Taser on a resisting suspect.]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E05Taser1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Officer Lucero deploys the X26 Taser in "Off-Duty" (S5E05). Notice the doors have been ejected from the front of the cartridge.]]
[[Image:SouthlandS5E05Taser3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The suspect goes down after Officer Lucero deploys the X26 Taser. Notice the wires leading from the cartridge to the suspect.]]

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2013-03-14T07:21:38Z

Btgr:

[[File:BurnS6E02 06.jpg|thumb|right|400px|{{PAGENAME}} holds a Taurus PT92 as Rafael Montero in ''[[Burn Notice - Season 6]]''.]]

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Talk:24

2013-03-12T09:56:02Z

Btgr: /* Kiefer Sutherland */

===Live Free or Die Hard Armorer===
Aside from the gun calibers has anybody noticed that this show uses the same guns as [[Live Free or Die Hard]]? I'm now thinking that if this is the same armorer that supplied Die Hard 4 and since gunmaster has identified the Glock 22's it's not so hard to believe that [[24]] may also be using .40S&W compatible firearms. I've only realized this since season 5.

:This show does not use the same weapons as ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. The weapons for that movie were rented mostly from Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry. I'm pretty sure that ''[[24]]'''s weapons come mostly from Independent Studio Services (or at least, they did in the 7th season). Anyway, I've told you before: Unless you have some way of confirming it, you should assume that the Glocks in the show are 9mms. If the propmaster that worked on the show was going for realism (meaning, the correct Glock model for the FBI), then why did they use SIG P228s, which in real life are not used by the Secret Service anymore? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Yes I already know about that I just realized that after the 5th season of [[24]]. It has had 13/21 weapons used by [[Live Free or Die Hard]] including 2 rare models that are just not seen very much on IMFDB. Especially the [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92G Elite 1A|Beretta 92G Elite 1A]] used in Season 7. It was just interesting thing I couldn't get off my head. Thanks for clearing it up I have never heard of Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry before.

== Breaking up page by Seasons ==

How do people feel about breaking up this page by Season (much like Miami Vice)? Being that this show will be beginning its 8th season soon, it might be the time. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I support the idea very much. If this page gets polished in near future, 8 seasons worth of guns and screencaps is going to be a bitch to read. - AlkoTanko

:Perhaps when someone gets more guns caps. A lot of the guns don't have screen caps [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::At the moment, seasons 1 and 7 could probably have their own separate pages, but the rest of the seasons are incomplete. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 19:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

:::I own seasons 1-4 so I may start screencapping sometime, however at the moment I'm kinda swamped with schoolwork. --[[User:Lews|Lews]] 04:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

::::I'm thinking about doing a re-vamp of Season 1 (though I'm trying to squeeze that and ''[[Chuck]]'' onto my plate). When I do, I'll probably take it out and make it into its own page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:23, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::Well I just finished screencapping Season 2, and I think that's pretty much ready to be seperated, and I should be able to start on Season 3 withing a few days. Season 7 is also definitely ready, and I do agree that Season 1 is in need of a bit of a re-vamp. While I'm here, anyone noticed anything I've missed with Season 2? Might as well finish it off while I'm at it... -- [[User:BillBuchanan24|BillBuchanan24]] 16:10, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::Both Tony and Yusef have Beretta 92FS Inox pistols, Jack gives Kate a Beretta 9000s when they're leaving the warehouse with that Coral Snake guy, The Coral Snake guy had a 1911 pistol along with his uzi, and Kingsley used a pistol in an attempt to kill Jack around the end of the finale, that's all I can think of. --[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 03:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::Thanks Pølaris! I'll screencap those now... Looking at it now, might need a little help ID'ing Wallace's 1911... Don't seem to be too many clear frames... Thanks again mate.

Kingsley used a Walther P99.

== Kiefer Sutherland ==

How come they never give Kiefer Sutherland any action movies with drama in it?

:Maybe he's not a good actor? My only problem with Kiefer is that after 7 seasons of firing guns, he still flinches all the time.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 03:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

::As we've explained before, blanks have far more flash than live rounds. It's pretty hard not to flinch. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::: I noticed his blinking during the first few episodes of this season. I think it has more to do with the loud bang than the muzzle flash. They can't wear a big set of ear muffs, so they have to wear small plugs that barely muffle the sound. Also blinking is different than flinching. Flinching is when you close your eyes before you even fire, at least that's the way I see it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::::I had no idea blanks produced a bigger flash.--

[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 17:47, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
It's my understanding the reason for the bigger flash is to allow the camera to catch the flash in the film frame rather that between the frames.
Regards,

Tecolote

== 24 of 24? ==

Is there gonna be 24 seasons of this show?

Kiefer Sutherland will be close to 60, if there is 24 seasons in this show.

::So...?

:::"Is there"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

If the show continues to have high ratings, then maybe.

: Seriously? 24 seasons? Would be a first. Stargate is one of the only shows I've seen that has 10 seasons. A show is lucky to survive 4 seasons. Let alone 8 (24 now), 9 (Smallville), 10 (Stargate) [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
10 and it's only SG-1, not counting other shows from Stargate universe.

:I was mentioning SG-1. And I hope to God Universe gets cancel before it gets to season 2. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

Sadly no. Fox has announced that this current season will be the last. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100327/ap_en_tv/us_tv24] --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 15:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

They may also leave a few questions unanswered like what happened to Mandy, where abouts is Chase and what happened to Tony after he was arrested???

I also heard everybody saying that the most useless and pointless character in this current season is Dana Walsh.

Until the last episode, that was the case. Now she's been revealed to be working for the bad guys, things are a bit different now. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 00:27, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Well lets all hope she dies or gets arrested at end, and I just hope that they do not copy her character from Nina Myers.

== Series Finale ==

After the series as ended, can someone please update seasons 1-5, and add more screenshots.

Was the final episode of season 7 is really officially the final appearance of Tony Almeida because it doesn't appear he is going to make an appearance in season 8, but I'm not sure if he will be mentioned???

== Goof ==

Anybody else notice that Jack Bauer asks for 2 MP5s and an assortment of assault rifles and his contact gets him MP7s? I thought it was kind of odd.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 21:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I caught that too. When he first asked, I thought it was weird that he asked for TWO. Why two? I suppose he could fire two MP7s akimbo, but it'd be a lot harder to do it with MP5s. Maybe it was MP7s in the script, and Kiefer just goofed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

-he was expecting cole to help him. Therefore 2. the contact probably got a similar weapon (comapct smg) with the mp7.

-why didnt he use it in the raid, all he was using was pistols...again

-I noticed the exact same thing. Seems odd.

== Shotguns on 24 ==

Any ideas why none of the CTUs are issued with pump action shotguns in the entire series? We saw Jack and Cole used a Mossberg, but they weren't issued to them. Shotguns are rarely used by a terrorist or any other character. While the police use Remingtons.

:In Season 3 Episode 1 & 2 Jack and maybe his partner Chase Edmunds ([[James Badge Dale]]) have grabbed [[Remington Model 870 Shotgun#Remington 870|Remington 870's]] from an miniature lock and key armory in CTU Los Angeles to follow a lead supported by LAPD to go after a armed drug dealer. We also seen one standard issued in a back of a stolen FBI SUV in Season 7 Episode 18. Bottom line is CTU is a fictional agency that will make and armory look like a military grade gun store. They have already adopted the [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|G36C]] to be the main weapon for most terrorists in the series. And Jack of course can't figure out how to flip his [[Heckler & Koch MP7#Heckler & Koch MP7|MP7's]] iron sights up. I think it would be a great idea to try out the new XREP shotgun taser round but the series is over and maybe no use in the upcoming 24 movie. -- [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 22:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

List of moments that a shotgun issued by CTU is used:

Season 2:
* [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]], Used by Jack to fire rubber shells to incapacitate a terrorist.
Season 3:
* [[Remington 870]], Jack takes one from a CTU locker.
Season 6:
* [[Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]], Used by jack during the rescue of Morris O'brian.
Season 8:
* [[Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]], Used by Cole to breach Jim Ricker's apartment.

Just felt inclined to add this.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 21:04, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

==Pistols so overused==

Why is it that pistols are always used, even when assault rifles/ SMGs are availible? Like jack making a raid with a usp and judge when he had 2 mp7s?

:If you're talking about episode 20 I agree Jack could have brought along his [[Heckler & Koch MP7#Heckler & Koch MP7|MP7]] but since he and Cole had to walk across the street in the open acting like pedestrians he probably couldn't conceal it in his jacket or find a appropriate bag. They never had suppressors or had any idea how many guards were inside so I wouldn't call it a raid. Assuming the guards were really private security they probably never brought along anything bigger than a shotgun or a full auto into their arsenal since they are in the state of New York gun laws. But you maybe right the writers never get that specific into weaponry like we do. -- [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 18:13, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::They could've easily slung MP7s under their coats. I actually had assumed Jack had done so at first when I saw him crossing the street. And since there were only two of them, against who knows how many bad guys, you'd think he'd err on the side of caution. But then again, we're constantly overthinking it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 02:27, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

:Put that lack of logic in the forum thread of Movie Gun laws. Pistols are always more awesome than anything else and characters wouldn't pick up a better gun right in front of them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

What about revolvers?

Well, video game logic says all revovlers are magnums and they are usaully more powerful than full sized rifles. In movies they dont fire enough bullets and theres to many john woo wannabees who just want to direct a movie showing hundreds of rounds going everywhere.

Does anyone know why the producers/armorer/Kiefer Sutherland decided to make the switch from a Sig P228 to the USP Compact? Realistically speaking I think a federal agent would be much more likely to carry the Sig. (Although 24 has never been too concerned with what someone would realistically do!)

I always assumed that it was because pistols are more easily concealed than a larger weapon. Also about the switch from [[SIG Sauer P228]] to the [[H&K USP Compact]], the USP is smaller while still retaining the same capacity of 13 rounds, but the biggest reason I could think of, was that it was to give Jack a unique sidearm that isn't the typical SIG, GLOCK, Or Beretta. No one else in the series uses it as a personal sidearm and few use it other than Jack.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 21:38, 11 March 2013 (EDT)
===Useful Links===

Here are some links that may be helpful for the people that are working on updating these pages:

http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons_used_by_Jack_Bauer

http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Handguns_on_24

Some of it is incorrrect, because it says that Jack used an Uzi against Bazhaev in Episode 8, but he used a Steyr SPP.

Talk:24

2013-03-12T09:55:45Z

Btgr: /* Assault Rifles */

===Live Free or Die Hard Armorer===
Aside from the gun calibers has anybody noticed that this show uses the same guns as [[Live Free or Die Hard]]? I'm now thinking that if this is the same armorer that supplied Die Hard 4 and since gunmaster has identified the Glock 22's it's not so hard to believe that [[24]] may also be using .40S&W compatible firearms. I've only realized this since season 5.

:This show does not use the same weapons as ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. The weapons for that movie were rented mostly from Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry. I'm pretty sure that ''[[24]]'''s weapons come mostly from Independent Studio Services (or at least, they did in the 7th season). Anyway, I've told you before: Unless you have some way of confirming it, you should assume that the Glocks in the show are 9mms. If the propmaster that worked on the show was going for realism (meaning, the correct Glock model for the FBI), then why did they use SIG P228s, which in real life are not used by the Secret Service anymore? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Yes I already know about that I just realized that after the 5th season of [[24]]. It has had 13/21 weapons used by [[Live Free or Die Hard]] including 2 rare models that are just not seen very much on IMFDB. Especially the [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92G Elite 1A|Beretta 92G Elite 1A]] used in Season 7. It was just interesting thing I couldn't get off my head. Thanks for clearing it up I have never heard of Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry before.

== Breaking up page by Seasons ==

How do people feel about breaking up this page by Season (much like Miami Vice)? Being that this show will be beginning its 8th season soon, it might be the time. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I support the idea very much. If this page gets polished in near future, 8 seasons worth of guns and screencaps is going to be a bitch to read. - AlkoTanko

:Perhaps when someone gets more guns caps. A lot of the guns don't have screen caps [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::At the moment, seasons 1 and 7 could probably have their own separate pages, but the rest of the seasons are incomplete. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 19:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

:::I own seasons 1-4 so I may start screencapping sometime, however at the moment I'm kinda swamped with schoolwork. --[[User:Lews|Lews]] 04:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

::::I'm thinking about doing a re-vamp of Season 1 (though I'm trying to squeeze that and ''[[Chuck]]'' onto my plate). When I do, I'll probably take it out and make it into its own page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:23, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::Well I just finished screencapping Season 2, and I think that's pretty much ready to be seperated, and I should be able to start on Season 3 withing a few days. Season 7 is also definitely ready, and I do agree that Season 1 is in need of a bit of a re-vamp. While I'm here, anyone noticed anything I've missed with Season 2? Might as well finish it off while I'm at it... -- [[User:BillBuchanan24|BillBuchanan24]] 16:10, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::Both Tony and Yusef have Beretta 92FS Inox pistols, Jack gives Kate a Beretta 9000s when they're leaving the warehouse with that Coral Snake guy, The Coral Snake guy had a 1911 pistol along with his uzi, and Kingsley used a pistol in an attempt to kill Jack around the end of the finale, that's all I can think of. --[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 03:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::Thanks Pølaris! I'll screencap those now... Looking at it now, might need a little help ID'ing Wallace's 1911... Don't seem to be too many clear frames... Thanks again mate.

Kingsley used a Walther P99.

== Kiefer Sutherland ==

How come they never give Kiefer Sutherland any action movies with drama in it?

:Maybe he's not a good actor? My only problem with Kiefer is that after 7 seasons of firing guns, he still flinches all the time.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 03:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

::As we've explained before, blanks have far more flash than live rounds. It's pretty hard not to flinch. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::: I noticed his blinking during the first few episodes of this season. I think it has more to do with the loud bang than the muzzle flash. They can't wear a big set of ear muffs, so they have to wear small plugs that barely muffle the sound. Also blinking is different than flinching. Flinching is when you close your eyes before you even fire, at least that's the way I see it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::::I had no idea blanks produced a bigger flash.--

[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 17:47, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
It's my understanding the reason for the bigger flash is to allow the camera to catch the flash in the film frame rather that between the frames.
Regards,

Tecolote

After 24 do you think Kiefer Sutherland should do more voice acting?

== 24 of 24? ==

Is there gonna be 24 seasons of this show?

Kiefer Sutherland will be close to 60, if there is 24 seasons in this show.

::So...?

:::"Is there"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

If the show continues to have high ratings, then maybe.

: Seriously? 24 seasons? Would be a first. Stargate is one of the only shows I've seen that has 10 seasons. A show is lucky to survive 4 seasons. Let alone 8 (24 now), 9 (Smallville), 10 (Stargate) [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
10 and it's only SG-1, not counting other shows from Stargate universe.

:I was mentioning SG-1. And I hope to God Universe gets cancel before it gets to season 2. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

Sadly no. Fox has announced that this current season will be the last. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100327/ap_en_tv/us_tv24] --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 15:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

They may also leave a few questions unanswered like what happened to Mandy, where abouts is Chase and what happened to Tony after he was arrested???

I also heard everybody saying that the most useless and pointless character in this current season is Dana Walsh.

Until the last episode, that was the case. Now she's been revealed to be working for the bad guys, things are a bit different now. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 00:27, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Well lets all hope she dies or gets arrested at end, and I just hope that they do not copy her character from Nina Myers.

== Series Finale ==

After the series as ended, can someone please update seasons 1-5, and add more screenshots.

Was the final episode of season 7 is really officially the final appearance of Tony Almeida because it doesn't appear he is going to make an appearance in season 8, but I'm not sure if he will be mentioned???

== Goof ==

Anybody else notice that Jack Bauer asks for 2 MP5s and an assortment of assault rifles and his contact gets him MP7s? I thought it was kind of odd.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 21:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I caught that too. When he first asked, I thought it was weird that he asked for TWO. Why two? I suppose he could fire two MP7s akimbo, but it'd be a lot harder to do it with MP5s. Maybe it was MP7s in the script, and Kiefer just goofed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

-he was expecting cole to help him. Therefore 2. the contact probably got a similar weapon (comapct smg) with the mp7.

-why didnt he use it in the raid, all he was using was pistols...again

-I noticed the exact same thing. Seems odd.

== Shotguns on 24 ==

Any ideas why none of the CTUs are issued with pump action shotguns in the entire series? We saw Jack and Cole used a Mossberg, but they weren't issued to them. Shotguns are rarely used by a terrorist or any other character. While the police use Remingtons.

:In Season 3 Episode 1 & 2 Jack and maybe his partner Chase Edmunds ([[James Badge Dale]]) have grabbed [[Remington Model 870 Shotgun#Remington 870|Remington 870's]] from an miniature lock and key armory in CTU Los Angeles to follow a lead supported by LAPD to go after a armed drug dealer. We also seen one standard issued in a back of a stolen FBI SUV in Season 7 Episode 18. Bottom line is CTU is a fictional agency that will make and armory look like a military grade gun store. They have already adopted the [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|G36C]] to be the main weapon for most terrorists in the series. And Jack of course can't figure out how to flip his [[Heckler & Koch MP7#Heckler & Koch MP7|MP7's]] iron sights up. I think it would be a great idea to try out the new XREP shotgun taser round but the series is over and maybe no use in the upcoming 24 movie. -- [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 22:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

List of moments that a shotgun issued by CTU is used:

Season 2:
* [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]], Used by Jack to fire rubber shells to incapacitate a terrorist.
Season 3:
* [[Remington 870]], Jack takes one from a CTU locker.
Season 6:
* [[Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]], Used by jack during the rescue of Morris O'brian.
Season 8:
* [[Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]], Used by Cole to breach Jim Ricker's apartment.

Just felt inclined to add this.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 21:04, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

==Pistols so overused==

Why is it that pistols are always used, even when assault rifles/ SMGs are availible? Like jack making a raid with a usp and judge when he had 2 mp7s?

:If you're talking about episode 20 I agree Jack could have brought along his [[Heckler & Koch MP7#Heckler & Koch MP7|MP7]] but since he and Cole had to walk across the street in the open acting like pedestrians he probably couldn't conceal it in his jacket or find a appropriate bag. They never had suppressors or had any idea how many guards were inside so I wouldn't call it a raid. Assuming the guards were really private security they probably never brought along anything bigger than a shotgun or a full auto into their arsenal since they are in the state of New York gun laws. But you maybe right the writers never get that specific into weaponry like we do. -- [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 18:13, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::They could've easily slung MP7s under their coats. I actually had assumed Jack had done so at first when I saw him crossing the street. And since there were only two of them, against who knows how many bad guys, you'd think he'd err on the side of caution. But then again, we're constantly overthinking it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 02:27, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

:Put that lack of logic in the forum thread of Movie Gun laws. Pistols are always more awesome than anything else and characters wouldn't pick up a better gun right in front of them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

What about revolvers?

Well, video game logic says all revovlers are magnums and they are usaully more powerful than full sized rifles. In movies they dont fire enough bullets and theres to many john woo wannabees who just want to direct a movie showing hundreds of rounds going everywhere.

Does anyone know why the producers/armorer/Kiefer Sutherland decided to make the switch from a Sig P228 to the USP Compact? Realistically speaking I think a federal agent would be much more likely to carry the Sig. (Although 24 has never been too concerned with what someone would realistically do!)

I always assumed that it was because pistols are more easily concealed than a larger weapon. Also about the switch from [[SIG Sauer P228]] to the [[H&K USP Compact]], the USP is smaller while still retaining the same capacity of 13 rounds, but the biggest reason I could think of, was that it was to give Jack a unique sidearm that isn't the typical SIG, GLOCK, Or Beretta. No one else in the series uses it as a personal sidearm and few use it other than Jack.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 21:38, 11 March 2013 (EDT)
===Useful Links===

Here are some links that may be helpful for the people that are working on updating these pages:

http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons_used_by_Jack_Bauer

http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Handguns_on_24

Some of it is incorrrect, because it says that Jack used an Uzi against Bazhaev in Episode 8, but he used a Steyr SPP.

Anthony Ruivivar

2013-02-28T09:19:25Z

Btgr:

Blitz

2013-02-22T07:01:35Z

Btgr:

[[File:BlitzPoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Blitz'' (2011)]]
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==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==

Armed Response Teams are equipped with [[MP5A3]]s.

[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BlitzMP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An ART member with his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 in the background.]]
[[File:BlitzMP5A3(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Notice the Taser in the ART member's holster.]]
[[File:BlitzMP5A3(3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch P8==

When Radnor ([[Ned Dennehy]]) breaks into Barry Weiss' ([[Aidan Gillen]]) car he finds a [[Heckler & Koch P8]] among his trophies. The second time he breaks in it turns in a [[P226]].

[[Image:pistole-p8.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch P8 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BlitzP8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Radnor ([[Ned Dennehy]]) finds a Heckler & Koch P8.]]
[[File:BlitzP8(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==SIG P210==

A [[SIG P210]] is shown in the opening credits and in a crime scene photo.

[[Image:Sig P210.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG P210 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BlitzP210.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SIG P210 in the opening credits. The shape of the trigger gives it away.]]
[[File:BlitzP210(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The P210 in a crime scene photo.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==

The [[SIG-Sauer P226]] is the main weapon of Barry Weiss ([[Aidan Gillen]]). Detective Sergeant Tom Brant ([[Jason Statham]]) uses it as well.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BlitzP226.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BlitzP226(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barry Weiss ([[Aidan Gillen]]) with the SIG-Sauer P226 in the finale.]]
[[File:BlitzP226(3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Radnor ([[Ned Dennehy]]) breaks into Barry Weiss car a second time the P8 turns into a P226.]]
[[File:BlitzP226Fire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barry fire the SIG-SauerP226.]]
[[File:BlitzP226Load.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barry loads his SIG.]]
[[File:BlitzP226Unload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt Porter Nash ([[Paddy Considine]]) checks the magazine.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 64==

Tom Brant's ([[Jason Statham]]) P226 turns into a [[Smith & Wesson Model 64]] in the ending.

[[Image:S&WModel64SS.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Smith & Wesson Model 64 Stainless Model - .38 Special]]
[[File:BlitzS&WModel620Promo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tom Brant ([[Jason Statham]]) with a Smith & Wesson Model 64 in a promo image.]]
[[File:BlitzS&WModel620.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

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Karl Urban

2013-02-09T23:48:10Z

Btgr:

[[Image:REDp220Cooper.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Karl Urban aims a [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG-Sauer P220 Sport|SIG-Sauer P220 Sport]] as William Cooper in ''[[Red]]'' (2010).]]

'''Karl Urban''' is an actor from New Zealand, known for ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]'', ''Lord of the Rings'' trilogy, ''[[Out of the Blue]]'', ''[[Red]]'' and ''[[Dredd (2012)]]''.

'''''Karl Urban'' can be seen with the following guns in the following films:'''

==Film==
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="215"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="225"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="225"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
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| [[Walther P99]] || Kirill || ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]'' || 1st Gen model w/ QPQ finished slide || 2004
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| [[Sauer Model 202]] || Kirill || ''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]'' || || 2004
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| [[Heckler & Koch G36]] || John "Grimm" Reaper || ''[[Doom]]'' || Housed in a futuristic shell || 2005
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| [[Heckler & Koch USP]] || John "Grimm" Reaper || ''[[Doom]]'' || || 2005
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| [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] HB || Nick Harvey || ''[[Out of the Blue]]'' || || 2006
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| [[Winchester Model 70]] || Nick Harvey || ''[[Out of the Blue]]'' || Fitted with an open sight and telescopic sight || 2006
|-
| [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG-Sauer P220 Sport|SIG-Sauer P220 Sport]] || William Cooper || ''[[Red]]'' || || 2010
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| [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] || Michael || ''[[And Soon the Darkness (2010)|And Soon the Darkness]]'' || || 2010
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| "Lawgiver" || Judge Dredd || [[Dredd (2012)]] || || 2012
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|}

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Talk:Skyfall

2013-01-30T20:23:29Z

Btgr: /* Quick question regarding the police shootout during M's public inquiry */

==Bond's main gun==

I know we can see that Bond has chosen the faithful PPK as his sidearm, but I would love too see a return of the P99. It is the use of it in Bond films that made it a preferred personal sidearm of choice [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I want to see other Walter guns. There's been quite a few new ones since the last movie that came out. I'd love to see the PPQ in action [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I'd rather him use a SIG Sauer P226 as a bigger pistol like he did in QoS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:58, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:Nah, I think he needs a more unique pistol, something to mark that only Bond would use. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

same. maybe the SIG or he pulls a [[Collateral]] with the [[Heckler & Koch USP]]--[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Is anyone else puzzled by how old and haggard Daniel Craig looks in that picture? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:41, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I still have never liked the new Bond. All the Bonds before Craig were the classic fictional "spy" with all the charms and awesomeness that all women want him and men want to be him. I know REAL spies don't usually act like the classic Bond fashion with super gadgets and all but that's why we love him, not for the realism but for the fantasy it really is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig does look older in this picture. I would rather see the new PPS as his sidearm because it's simply an evolution thing. From PPK to P5 to P99, Bond has usually always used a Walther. To have him go back to the PPK, while is nice to see, is not something that make sense this day in age.

:Actually in the Jeffrey Deaver Bond novel "Carte Blanche" Bond does use the Walther PPS [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig has not aged well in my opinion. In Layer Cake when he was early thirties, he looked quite young. When I saw the promo picture for Skyfall, I couldn't believe it was him for a second. I would have liked Bond to sport a P22 or PK380 in Skyfall, but as is life :( [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Charon68, that is what I was referring to the book. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 17:43, 2 February 2012 (CST)

If bond is former SAS soldier, as suggested in Casino Royale, then he would have used a PPK so is a realistic choice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:04, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Personally though I had thought the PPK was withdrawn from service after the attempted kidnapping of Princess Margaret in 1974. As cool as the thing looks the cartridge is woefully underpowered and would barely make a scratch with modern body armor. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:That incident was with the police Royalty Protection branch, and at that point the PPK was carried as a primary weapon. It wasn't a power issue, the gun jammed when the protection officer tried to return fire, and was immediately and totally withdrawn by the police due to this freak occurrence. It is still used (or was still used until relatively recently) by the SAS as an ankle gun during close protection work or for undercover work (such as in Northern Ireland), and I think there is also a hidden pocket specifically for the PPK in the SAS CRW coveralls. Main pistols used by SAS are the P226 and P228. Personally I would like to see bond with a P228, or its successor the P229 SAS. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:30, 2 February 2012 (CST)
::On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Personally I always thought a worth successor to the PPK would have been the HK P7. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:19, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Bond being ex-UKSF has been canon since at least ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]''; Bond can be seen wearing a pair of UKSF Parachute wings on the sleeve of his No.1C uniform, as in [[:File:Usairforce.jpg|This shot]]. Plus he uses a P7 in at least one of the novels. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (CST)

I think we're torn on the ideal of a the Bond gun as being something small and still powerful to what is more practical. In a real sense, Bond should always be carrying full size guns or larger guns because of the situation. Why a small gun when his outfit could offer concealment on larger frame weapons and with modern day suppressors, you can't say a small gun suppresses better. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)

In the novels written by Raymond Benson, Bond would carry a PPK if he needed concealment with a suppressor and he would keep a P99 in his cars or when he was in a tactical situation where he needed more firepower. That was something that was used in the game Bloodstone and would be a nice medium. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 22:07, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Bond is a Naval Commmander, and personally I would like him to use a P228, as it is compact enough for undercover work and has a large enough magazine (13 rounds in 9mm) to see him through a gunfight --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:54, 5 February 2012 (CST).

The p228 is not bond 007 style. The thing is that the PPK is the classic bond gun, but with a magazine size of at max 8 rounds, it is not very good choice. He could use one of two pistols: the P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander) or a usp compact in 9 mil. The usp compact is good for concealment and it offers a larger magazine (13 rounds) compared to the ppk's 8.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:28, 5 February 2012 (CST)
:"he P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander)" Wrong Navy, plus the 226 Navy is (I believe) only chambered in 9mm NATO. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:21, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If anything the PPK is a good backup gun nothing else. I personally wouldn't even consider using a PPK as my primary even if I was using a compact gun just because their is simply better compact guns with better stopping power then the PPK.

Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST)

I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If they want to be really faithful, they should give him back the Beretta pocket pistol he carried in the first few novels. But now I'm being overly sarcastic and need to calm down. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:30, 6 February 2012 (CST)

While I agree that there are better choices then a PPK, I wouldn't want to step in front of one in the hands of a professional like Daniel Craig's Bond. The PPK is iconic and identified with Bond as much as the dinner suit and the Aston Martin; it was chosen by Fleming because its name "rolled off the tongue" and for its sleek looks. The producers did a good job in Quantum of Solace mixing up the traditional (PPK) with the more modern (P226). And since I am new to this site, if someone could tell me how to leave a signature, I would appreciate it :)
Thanks Funkychinaman for the signature info!--[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 22:58, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

I don't know if you folks have seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuO34MDezzU
It looks like folks have been discussing the gun Bond should carry for 50 years. [[User:APS221|APS221]] 00:47, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

They should follow Jeffery Deaver's advice and choose the gun from the book Carte Blanche, the book that was going to be adapted into this film originally. Shame it's not going to be-the gun's a Walther PPS .40 S&W. It betters the PPK in calibers and capacity (if you either have an extended magazine or choose 9mm instead of .40 calibre.), and matches it exactly on size. Also, I believe Bond should have a larger handgun inside his vehicle and for use on covert operations. The PP9, while Bond has been using it before and it has a good capacity, is outdated and still a 9mm. I believe it should be a full-sized handgun, still a Walther, maybe the P22 .22 LR, as it is quieter suppressed than the 9mm PP9. I'm not sure weather .22 LR is more or less powerful than 9mm though...anyone? As for the Bond gun debating, it's never going to stop completely. If Bond books and films carry on being made for hundreds more years, better and more concealable guns in better calibers with better suppressors will become available, and people like us will always disagree with the choice, unless the people in charge of firearms choosing at the Bond films come across this site and choose what we say, which is unlikely. The PPK, whilst good in it's day, is severly outdated (it's nearly twice as old as the actor holding it!), the caliber is ineffective compared to the .40 S&W at penetration and damage, and the PPS can be suppressed just as effectively with modern suppressor technology, compared to the .380 ACP with WWII suppressor technology, and is the same size exactly-Walther claim so themselves. However, the big cheeses at the Bond office just see the PPK not as ineffective, or underpowered, or old, but as a symbol of Bond. I think we may have to put up with it for many years to come, until either they see some sense or are fired. I'm sure Boothroyd's turning in his grave. Alasdair.

The thing with Bond is that he needs to use a gun with decent size caliber. If I would choose a new gun for Bond, I would choose the Kimber Warrior, which is meant for marksmen like Bond. Glocks are good, but are not suited for Bond. The Walther P99 as of the guns Bond has used is the best one that he has used. --[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 10:31, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I want to see him with a PPS or something like that. The PPK is nice, but this isn't Ian Flemming's bond anymore. He is a more realistic action hero. A PPS in a IWB holster with a P99 or PPQ in his car. I like Craig as Bond because he is more gritty and honestly, less of a man whore. I have experience with a PPS and I think Bond would too.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:25, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I'm a huge fan of the Walther, and i would love to see him use his P99 again, i got a replica of it myself and it's really good. Especially is a Vega Holster!

In the book "Devil May Care", Bond looses his PPK frequently and is mostly seen using, of all things an [[M1911]]. That would be pretty cool. [[User:Scattergun|Scattergun]] 14:55, 8 April 2012 (EST)

While I maintain my opinion that the PPK, properly supplemented at appropriate times like in Quantum, is the only gun for Bond, I am sympathetic to the argument that he should be equipped with a more modern weapon. Therefore, I nominate the new SIG SAUER P224. It is of an appropriate size (unlike the Walther P99), has the proven professional pedigree of the P220/226 line, is of high quality (unlike the poor reputation-dogged Walther), isn’t the everyone’s gun the GLOCK is, and has some style and panache that the PPS, GLOCK, USP, and their polymer look-alikes lack. I would prefer 9mm for an agent operating worldwide, but the P224 is available in .40 and .357 SIG (now that’s a serious caliber). --[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 23:01, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:Of course the big problem with a non-Walther gun is that apparently the franchise has a fairly nice sponsorship deal going with Carl Walther GmbH. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:09, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

If the franchise has a big sponsorship with Walther, then why don't Walther make a gun especially designed for James Bond? It could be tailored to meet his needs (suggestions as to what they might be, please), and then they could release it for sale to the public. They'd make a fortune by selling it to James Bond fans, and serious shooters if it was very good. Q could make a big deal in-film about how good it is, and how Walther have made it especially for him. Good idea? Alasdair.

:Well, because imagine the PR when the gun made specially for James Bond is used to hold up a bank, they'd never hear the end of it, nevermind the kind of "MGM is arming our kids!" nonsense they'd get anyway. That and if you're a gun company exec and someone pitches that idea to you, your first reply would be "why not just have him use something we already make?" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:55, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

The whole debate about whether he should be using a PPK should be treated in the same way as whether it is realistic for Bond to engage in so many scuffles in nice, taper-fit Tom Ford suits and Church leather shoes. The cut is simply unrealistic for someone who wishes to conceal serious firepower. Given his obvious fondness for the Italian cut in his suits, it is fitting that Daniel Craig/James Bond should choose the PPK instead of the P99 he had used in the first movie, but, alas, such weapons remained adequate today for a Walter Mitty who would not see much more action. Since the 1970s, an operator carrying a PPK would simply not be taken seriously by fellow professionals, and would be laughed out of the Special Forces Club. A serious operator would simply rather wear a suit with the horrendous sack-like American cut, than do without a true combat pistol.

A former SBS operator would really be more likely to carry a SiG-Sauer P226. He might sacrifice two rounds to save 0.1 inch of butt length by carrying the P228, but someone who really means to can conceal either under a suit jacket. Even women operators could conceal a Heckler and Koch MP5K under their jacket. So the producer or director really missed a chance here to turn James Bond from being a mere walking advertisement for luxury brands to a more serious character (like back in Casino Royale).

Oh, by the way, using an Olympic Arms K23B is the ultimate mark of un-seriousness in a professional. Someone get that girl a HK 416.
:It's most likely what was avaiable and "unique" to the character in the scene. Personally the barrel would have given it crapped accuracy and shooting a guy brawling with a friendly on a moving train would take some expert marksmen even with a better rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:One word for you - TRADITION. Bond's always used a PPK (except in the first few novels), it's pretty much his signature gun. I'm glad they've gone back to it over the P99, which just never had the same classic feel to it.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 10:45, 1 August 2012 (CDT)

Of course. But that still means that the more edgy and realistic Daniel Craig reboot, which started so promisingly in Casino Royale, has now officially gone off the rails and U-turned back into cheesy entertainment territory. If that's the case, please give me back Pierce Brosnan's easy charm, Roger Moore's humour, or Sean Connery sheer animal charisma, not Daniel Craig's brooding sulkiness.

:I don't see how you can claim they've totally rejected the serious tone and gone back to being cheesy fun JUST because he's using the PPK again. Especially as you haven't even seen the film! I mean, do you not realise what a ridiculous jump in logic that is? That's like saying "Because Bond has a beard in one scene they're going to bring back Madonna."--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:51, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

I really wish we'd see other Walthers. Nothing wrong with "tradition' but how about the newer P99 or the PPQ or the PPS? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:Here's a solution to allow MGM (and Walther) to make boatloads of cash off an "official James Bond" pistol and not risk their reputation by having it used in an inappropriately-violent manner--make and market a PROP gun (that has a movable trigger/hammer, working magazine release, and dummy magazine, but obviously cannot be converted to live fire) that resembles what James Bond uses in a future movie. Just look at how many adults (and kids) will shell out lots of cash for prop lightsabers from the [[Star Wars]] series. If I were feeling in a "Q" mood, I'd mandate that it must have a tactical flashlight and laser sight at a minimum, and possibly a single-shot taser/stun gun weapon rail-mounted under the barrel just in case Bond needs less-lethal takedown capability and doesn't feel up to hand-to-hand combat. If you want to keep the prop out of the hands of kids, make it a "only X units produced" luxury good, possibly sold first at auction (so as to keep the price above what most little kids can beg and whine to their parents for). As for cheesy, aside from the various obvious film errors you can spot in the theatrical cut (i.e., Bond goes for a dip in a frozen lake and seconds later emerges completely dry), it seems that Bond has been taking notes from Sam Fisher (specifically the "Mark and Execute" gameplay mechanic from [[Splinter Cell: Conviction]]). --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 11:59, 5 January 2013 (EST)
:And what's to stop people using that to hold up a convenience store? There's a reason you can't buy Airsoft guns in this country without jumping through god knows how many legal hoops first or painting it bright green. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] ([[User talk:The Wierd It|talk]]) 12:13, 5 January 2013 (EST)

== What Happened??? ==

In [[Casino Royale (2006)]], Bond had good trigger discipline and kept good two handed grips on his guns, an now we have shots of him in a footchase pointing his PPK in front of him with his finger on the trigger... call me a safety Nazi but I expect better from a trained agent....--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:35, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

You mean the footchase at Tower Hill? Maybe, and correct me if i'm wrong he just shot someone....

I'm pretty sure Bond was chasing/shooting at someone so that would explain it [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:38, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

==CO19 holster weapons==

The lads from CO19 seem too have a Glock in their holsters. The norm for police carrying sidearms in the UK is a Glock 17, so its safe too assume that they are also Glock 17s.

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Several of the Bond forums have photo threads and their are images of the armourer hand the CO19 actors Glock 17s and G36s.

Regards,
Tecolote

==Trailer unknown gun==

The teaser trailer dropped today, and I have clocked an unknown gun around 1:11. It is scoped and suppressed, but I am unable too identify it. Can someone have a look and possibly screencap it? Cheers lads

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:It was an odd looking thing, whatever it is. It is mostly in shadow but you get one good whole weapon shot of it when there is a flash of light:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:I think if it is a real gun it is highly modified. My guess would be that it is a covert gun that passes as something else (like the [[(Day of the Jackal) - Custom Sniper Rifle|Day of the Jackal]] rifle), as the trigger is a random metal loop, and that vertical part is not a magazine, but appears to fold down from the front as a sort of monopod. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:06, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

It is some type of bolt action for sure,and definitely a covert job.
Regards,
Tecolote

The bolt looks like something off of an Accuracy International rifle.--[[User:6pulkpancerna|6pulkpancerna]] 11:37, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks, I should have known that as I was examining an AI in .300Win. the day before yesterday.

Regards,

Tecolote

I would say its a grease gun--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:26, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

:It deffinitely has nothing to do with an M3, as it is a bolt action feeding from a rifle size magazine (in the trailer it clearly shows the magazine being inserted into the rifle). The large vertical part appears to be a hand grip or support strut of some sort and is not a magazine. As for it being an Accuracy International I can see where you are coming from, but I don't think it is. First off the bolt stem on an AI AW curves backwards, and the bolt on this is straight. Also, the bolt is too far forward from the front of the weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:28, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Yeah, I was just kinda throwing it out there. If it is a M3, it looks like it is highly customized. But now I know it is not a M3.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:10, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

I don't think we'll be able to tell just from this. It looks almost like a custom mockup built around a real weapon. Hell, considering the unusual trigger, box-shaped suppressor, and various almost unrecognizable bits and pieces, it could very well be a completely inert prop with CGI firing. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 20:36, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

It could be a prototype weapon where the design has not been released to the general public. Otherwise, it is just a complete custom mockup.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:40, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

:Um, if the general public don't know about it then how is a movie director going to ask for one? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:59, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

looking at the bolt area and where the stock attaches, my money would be on it being a PGM Ultima Ratio, obviously heavily mocked up, but impossible to say for sure without more pics - TheSpannaMunkee

this rifle appears visually similar to the AMSD OM 50 Nemesis with a large amount of visual modification [[User:LachlanDMcCahon|LachlanDMcCahon]] ([[User talk:LachlanDMcCahon|talk]]) 01:54, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

You get a much closer look at it at the end of the Skyfall section of ''007 Legends''; since I imagine the game's designers had some access to the prop, it might be useful as a source of ID if it's a decent enough match to the movie version. I'll see about getting a shot of it. Also the Patrice boss fight in that game is stunningly dreadful. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 07:33, 21 January 2013 (EST)
:From what I've heard, "stunningly dreadful" pretty much describes the entire game. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:00, 21 January 2013 (EST)
::Yeah, at best it's mediocre and it isn't often at its best. But Patrice in particular is a throwback to the bad old days of sci-fi FPS bosses where you fight a totally ordinary man with a stupidly powerful weapon who can soak up enough firepower to sink a cruiser. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 17:25, 21 January 2013 (EST)

[[Image:Patrice-Sniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:Patrice-Sniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Also I'd forgotten that this re-enacts the part of the movie where Bond defeats him by abusing the hell out of a bunch of invincible glass doors. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 17:49, 21 January 2013 (EST)

:That looks pretty accurate to me, here is a shot from the trailer which shows the odd shape of the magazine well, and it seems to be a match. The texture on the side of the magazine is incorrect for the game gun though:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rile load.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:As to what the gun is, I still am not sure. I can't 100% justify this, but I have this feeling that the base of the weapon may actually be a Remington 700 in an AICS, without the polymer stock on the outside, and with a fabricated metal box over the top. [http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/03rangerxlt/AICS%20Installation/DSC00651.jpg Here] is an image of the bare chassis. To me it looks like what they may have done is to machine off the mag well forwards of the finger hole (hence the rough bare metal edge visible in the above shot). The shape behind the magazine well in the trigger area also looks like a match to me. If this is the case, everything upwards of the horizontal line about a centimetre below the ejection port is a cosmetic box, which would explain the rough finish appearing as if it is simply sheet metal that has been painted, rather than a more durable finish you would see on a genuine weapon part. There also appears to be some rough machining on the channel that the bolt handle travels in, which would also be part of this cosmetic fascia. Although not very clear, the magazine also looks like the [http://shoowars.info/img.php?fl=a406n4i443p2p256u4p4q2n4m5j434l4f5g4j4p5t5s4l4u2a4l4f4t22606c4r494w5g516u2n4f4n4l434j414v2q2q264v2v203039444p2v2o5n484 extended ones] that you can get for the Rem 700 AICS. Just to add before anyone suggest it, I don't think it is a genuine AI, as the magazine and bolt handle are the wrong shape for starters. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:07, 22 January 2013 (EST) One more thing, go [http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/misc/35909-aics-stock-install.html here] to see a load more images of the chassis, along with a standard length magazine which I believe is a match for this one. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:32, 22 January 2013 (EST)

== Additional images to be Id'ed ==

These are some more images from the trailer. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:16, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

In order: 1. Bond's PPK, which he promptly reloads

2. I assume his HK416 during his house shootout

3. The strange mock-up seen above

4. A Glock, or possibly a SIG? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 01:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

[[File:SkyF 1002.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1003.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1005.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:I'm hoping the gun in that last image is a P99 [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
::Number 4 isn't a Glock and I don't think it's a SIG either, it looks to have a slide mounted safety like a Beretta 92FS but the front profile makes me think it's some sort of Browning variant. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:22, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

The gun on the last picture looks like a P99 to me...But a 92FS isn't a crazy thought, maybe he picked it up from a Silva tug or something..

I'm inclined to think either Browning or 1911 variant --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:07, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:I reckon it's probably some sort of Browning or 1911 variant, the frame looks too long to be a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:48, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
I've taken a new screencap of the silhouette of the strange SMG thing he has, the best I could find. It looks vaguely like the silhouette of a MAT-49, though I doubt that's what it is. Hope it helps nonetheless: http://i49.tinypic.com/359ecl3.png [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:43, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:Look a couble of sections up and you will see a cap of it in the light, where you can see it is actually cuilt on (if anything) a bolt action rifle. What you are seeing as a long SMG magazine is a cosmetic thing stuck on the weapon which appears to be folded forward for storage. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:05, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

You know, i guess it's maybe a H&K USP because it looks like it so much
:Number 4 could be a HK USP actually. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
Haha, someone who's agreed with me ;)
:Sign your posts though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:42, 24 May 2012 (CDT)
All right, will do. --[[User:Walther_arms|walther_arms]]

Picture No. 4 is a Glock 17;there are a number of newly released stills that confirm this. Apparently Bond disarms the guy pointing one at him inthe percussion cap dueler photo and winds up aiming at(or maybe shooting) somebody with a 2 handed hold.
The dueler is almost certainly a Pedersoli repro of a LePage dueling pistol.

Regards,

Tecolote

Should there be a page made for Ola Rapace? The actor fighting bond wielding the converted Glock 17 and the unknowne Sub-Machine Gun?-Bravejoker

== trailer weapons ==

seen the new trailer bad guy seems to have custom take down sniper rifle fits with the mytos of the films allso looks like bond goes back to the p99 all i have seen is a bad blurry image but the trigger guard is defeniatly not a ppk jump in any one who can clear this up--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:49, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

ok the courtyard gun in the trailer 1 got a better look at it seems to be a glock 17 --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:46, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgr2syY_OU4&feature=youtu.be --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 09:58, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

:Awesome!! Just wanted to point out that there is also a slightly different US version, also viewable on the jamesbond007 channel on YouTube. I don't know about you guys, but I think this has some serious potential...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:54, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== Signature Walther PPK ==

a pistol Signature gun that only 007 can use did they not use this in license to kill in 1989 at least they upgraded the caliber to .380 acp (9mm x 17mm short) which is slightly better than the .32 acp (7.65x17mm) that was used in the books and films--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 14:51, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

Kinda. In License to Kill it was a sniper rifle disguised as a camera that was the gun that required a palm scan, not the Walther PPK [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:16, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== "12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun" ==

I've read that this is "Anderson Wheeler 500 Nitro Double Rifle" (source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465931593424952&set=a.430960320255413.102948.154596811225100&type=1&theater ); may it be true?
[[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 17:43, 2 August 2012 (CEST)
:I remember an article about a set visit where they were talking about the fact that the big bad in this film is fond of antique British weapons and uses percussion pistols and a .500 Nitro Express rifle, so that ID might be right. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:59, 2 August 2012 (CDT)
::I've changed the identification, since you are probably correct. For those who are interested, here is the company website: [http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/double_rifle.php Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle] --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer ==

I watched the new trailer this morning, and at the bit when Bond meets Q, I swear I could have heard Q saying the PPK is infact a PPK/S. Could be wrong, but did anyone else notice this? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:Yeah, it was even mentioned on the main page of Skyfall. I think it could definitely be a blued PPK/S based on the grip size. Can someone who knows PPKs better than I do confirm this?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:13, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

::Am I the only one who thinks that there might be a sort of shooting competition between Bond and Silva? I mean, look at the main page, where the P99 and the Flintlock pistols are. Bond is wearing the same suit, the background is the same and it's the same time of day. Just some food for thought --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 02:34, 3 August 2012 (CDT).
:::I don't think that's a P99, it could be the Glock that he has pointed at his head in the screenshot with Silva firing the Flintlock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:24, 3 August 2012 (CDT)

Ive taken a close look at the screen cap of Ola Rapace firing the Glock and if you look close enough it appears there is a selector switch on the side, meaning it could be a genuine Glock 18. -Bravejoker

==Just seen it==
Having just seen the film, I can happily say there were plenty of gunfights and we'll be spoilt for choice when screencapping it. There were so many closeups, especially of the PPK. Here's a list of all the guns I spotted:

* Walther PPK – used by Bond (naturally), Eve and M.
* Glock 17 – used extensively by London Met, Silva and his team when disguised as police officers. Bond definitely uses one on the island; it's not a P99.
* Glock 18 – used by Patrice during the opening scene in Turkey, first fitted with a Beta-C 100-round magazine, then standard 33-round magazines.
* Possible Steyr M9 – used by Silva during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* M4 – used by MI6 guards.
* H&K 416 – used by Silva’s men and several by Bond during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* H&K MP7 – used by Silva’s men on his island.
You're welcome - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:20, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:Fairly sure the pistol Silva had at the lodge was a [[Steyr M9-A1]], the shape of the frame around the rail is pretty distinctive. I think this may have also been the pistol that was used by one of the 3 bodyguards at the Macau place with the komodo dragon pit, you see it when Eve stamps on the guys arm to stop him picking it up (I think this is what happened, can't remember the exact chain of events). Also I think Patrice uses a Glock 17 during the assassination later in the film, in the shot where he removes the suppressor it has no selector on the left side of the slide. There was also a machine gun mounted on a Merlin helicopter during the climax but didn't get a clear look at it due to it being dark and the brief shots of it. My guess is that it is an M2, or possibly an M3M, based on the mounting. Also, I think we should simply say that the Anderson Wheeler 500 NE Double Rifle is used by Bond during the films climax, anything over and above that I would consider a spoiler (at least until the film is on home release and most people will have already seen it). I still have no idea what the weird sniper rifle is, it seems like it was designed so that the case itself is part of the gun (the scope is the carry handle and the long piece at the front is the front edge of the case), but I don't see the point of having a suitcase that turns into a gun when you can just carry a suitcase with a take-down rifle in it. Still, was a great film IMHO, would highly recommend. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:09, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

::Just saw the film again on Friday and, yeah, you're right it is a Steyr M9A1, I get the two mixed up. Patrice also ditches his Glock 18 when it runs empty and uses a standard 17 during the assassination scene, like you said. Also, I spotted a Tokarev on some news footage, but the footage was paused before it was fired. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:53, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:::Are we certain that it was an actual Glock 18 as a Glock 17 is usually just converted to fire full auto than them using an actual Glock 18. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 17:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::::It definitely is, the fire selector is clearly seen when it is first used. Conversely we can be relaively certain it is replaced with a Glock 17 later on as it lacks the selector (although the shot could have been flipped, I didn't look at the ejection port). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:40, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I believe the pistol used by the third bodyguard before Eve stomps on his arm was actually a Walther P99, the rear end looked pretty similar.[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 19:41, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:Possibly, I have only seen the film once and is a very brief shot. However, at the time it struck me as a Steyr M9-A1, and if it is not then it is quite a coincidence that a definite one turns up later in the film. Also, I don't think they would include a Walther P99 in a Bond film and have Bond not use it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:01, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::No, it definitely wasn't a Walther, the front end was too tall. A Steyr is our best guess at this stage. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 08:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Just to confirm, the MG mounted on the Merlin is an M2HB, it is visible in [http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=70141 this] VLOG about helicopter filming about 25 seconds in. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:42, 18 November 2012 (EST)

== Quick question regarding the police shootout during M's public inquiry ==

Would an armed British police officer in real life be allowed to open fire straight away on the bad guy, if the bad guy suddenly starts shooting without warning? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 03:27, 5 January 2013 (EST)
:I believe the rule is "real and imminent threat to life". If the suspect has already opened fire then they are justified in shooting back without warning. But don't quote me on that. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] ([[User talk:The Wierd It|talk]]) 09:14, 5 January 2013 (EST)

Another question I can think of. Does anyone here know any famous shootouts that involved armed Metropolitan Police officers in real life? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 15:12, 30 January 2013 (EST)

Talk:Skyfall

2013-01-30T20:12:55Z

Btgr: /* Quick question regarding the police shootout during M's public inquiry */

==Bond's main gun==

I know we can see that Bond has chosen the faithful PPK as his sidearm, but I would love too see a return of the P99. It is the use of it in Bond films that made it a preferred personal sidearm of choice [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I want to see other Walter guns. There's been quite a few new ones since the last movie that came out. I'd love to see the PPQ in action [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I'd rather him use a SIG Sauer P226 as a bigger pistol like he did in QoS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:58, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:Nah, I think he needs a more unique pistol, something to mark that only Bond would use. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

same. maybe the SIG or he pulls a [[Collateral]] with the [[Heckler & Koch USP]]--[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Is anyone else puzzled by how old and haggard Daniel Craig looks in that picture? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:41, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I still have never liked the new Bond. All the Bonds before Craig were the classic fictional "spy" with all the charms and awesomeness that all women want him and men want to be him. I know REAL spies don't usually act like the classic Bond fashion with super gadgets and all but that's why we love him, not for the realism but for the fantasy it really is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig does look older in this picture. I would rather see the new PPS as his sidearm because it's simply an evolution thing. From PPK to P5 to P99, Bond has usually always used a Walther. To have him go back to the PPK, while is nice to see, is not something that make sense this day in age.

:Actually in the Jeffrey Deaver Bond novel "Carte Blanche" Bond does use the Walther PPS [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig has not aged well in my opinion. In Layer Cake when he was early thirties, he looked quite young. When I saw the promo picture for Skyfall, I couldn't believe it was him for a second. I would have liked Bond to sport a P22 or PK380 in Skyfall, but as is life :( [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Charon68, that is what I was referring to the book. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 17:43, 2 February 2012 (CST)

If bond is former SAS soldier, as suggested in Casino Royale, then he would have used a PPK so is a realistic choice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:04, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Personally though I had thought the PPK was withdrawn from service after the attempted kidnapping of Princess Margaret in 1974. As cool as the thing looks the cartridge is woefully underpowered and would barely make a scratch with modern body armor. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:That incident was with the police Royalty Protection branch, and at that point the PPK was carried as a primary weapon. It wasn't a power issue, the gun jammed when the protection officer tried to return fire, and was immediately and totally withdrawn by the police due to this freak occurrence. It is still used (or was still used until relatively recently) by the SAS as an ankle gun during close protection work or for undercover work (such as in Northern Ireland), and I think there is also a hidden pocket specifically for the PPK in the SAS CRW coveralls. Main pistols used by SAS are the P226 and P228. Personally I would like to see bond with a P228, or its successor the P229 SAS. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:30, 2 February 2012 (CST)
::On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Personally I always thought a worth successor to the PPK would have been the HK P7. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:19, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Bond being ex-UKSF has been canon since at least ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]''; Bond can be seen wearing a pair of UKSF Parachute wings on the sleeve of his No.1C uniform, as in [[:File:Usairforce.jpg|This shot]]. Plus he uses a P7 in at least one of the novels. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (CST)

I think we're torn on the ideal of a the Bond gun as being something small and still powerful to what is more practical. In a real sense, Bond should always be carrying full size guns or larger guns because of the situation. Why a small gun when his outfit could offer concealment on larger frame weapons and with modern day suppressors, you can't say a small gun suppresses better. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)

In the novels written by Raymond Benson, Bond would carry a PPK if he needed concealment with a suppressor and he would keep a P99 in his cars or when he was in a tactical situation where he needed more firepower. That was something that was used in the game Bloodstone and would be a nice medium. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 22:07, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Bond is a Naval Commmander, and personally I would like him to use a P228, as it is compact enough for undercover work and has a large enough magazine (13 rounds in 9mm) to see him through a gunfight --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:54, 5 February 2012 (CST).

The p228 is not bond 007 style. The thing is that the PPK is the classic bond gun, but with a magazine size of at max 8 rounds, it is not very good choice. He could use one of two pistols: the P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander) or a usp compact in 9 mil. The usp compact is good for concealment and it offers a larger magazine (13 rounds) compared to the ppk's 8.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:28, 5 February 2012 (CST)
:"he P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander)" Wrong Navy, plus the 226 Navy is (I believe) only chambered in 9mm NATO. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:21, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If anything the PPK is a good backup gun nothing else. I personally wouldn't even consider using a PPK as my primary even if I was using a compact gun just because their is simply better compact guns with better stopping power then the PPK.

Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST)

I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If they want to be really faithful, they should give him back the Beretta pocket pistol he carried in the first few novels. But now I'm being overly sarcastic and need to calm down. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:30, 6 February 2012 (CST)

While I agree that there are better choices then a PPK, I wouldn't want to step in front of one in the hands of a professional like Daniel Craig's Bond. The PPK is iconic and identified with Bond as much as the dinner suit and the Aston Martin; it was chosen by Fleming because its name "rolled off the tongue" and for its sleek looks. The producers did a good job in Quantum of Solace mixing up the traditional (PPK) with the more modern (P226). And since I am new to this site, if someone could tell me how to leave a signature, I would appreciate it :)
Thanks Funkychinaman for the signature info!--[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 22:58, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

I don't know if you folks have seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuO34MDezzU
It looks like folks have been discussing the gun Bond should carry for 50 years. [[User:APS221|APS221]] 00:47, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

They should follow Jeffery Deaver's advice and choose the gun from the book Carte Blanche, the book that was going to be adapted into this film originally. Shame it's not going to be-the gun's a Walther PPS .40 S&W. It betters the PPK in calibers and capacity (if you either have an extended magazine or choose 9mm instead of .40 calibre.), and matches it exactly on size. Also, I believe Bond should have a larger handgun inside his vehicle and for use on covert operations. The PP9, while Bond has been using it before and it has a good capacity, is outdated and still a 9mm. I believe it should be a full-sized handgun, still a Walther, maybe the P22 .22 LR, as it is quieter suppressed than the 9mm PP9. I'm not sure weather .22 LR is more or less powerful than 9mm though...anyone? As for the Bond gun debating, it's never going to stop completely. If Bond books and films carry on being made for hundreds more years, better and more concealable guns in better calibers with better suppressors will become available, and people like us will always disagree with the choice, unless the people in charge of firearms choosing at the Bond films come across this site and choose what we say, which is unlikely. The PPK, whilst good in it's day, is severly outdated (it's nearly twice as old as the actor holding it!), the caliber is ineffective compared to the .40 S&W at penetration and damage, and the PPS can be suppressed just as effectively with modern suppressor technology, compared to the .380 ACP with WWII suppressor technology, and is the same size exactly-Walther claim so themselves. However, the big cheeses at the Bond office just see the PPK not as ineffective, or underpowered, or old, but as a symbol of Bond. I think we may have to put up with it for many years to come, until either they see some sense or are fired. I'm sure Boothroyd's turning in his grave. Alasdair.

The thing with Bond is that he needs to use a gun with decent size caliber. If I would choose a new gun for Bond, I would choose the Kimber Warrior, which is meant for marksmen like Bond. Glocks are good, but are not suited for Bond. The Walther P99 as of the guns Bond has used is the best one that he has used. --[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 10:31, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I want to see him with a PPS or something like that. The PPK is nice, but this isn't Ian Flemming's bond anymore. He is a more realistic action hero. A PPS in a IWB holster with a P99 or PPQ in his car. I like Craig as Bond because he is more gritty and honestly, less of a man whore. I have experience with a PPS and I think Bond would too.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:25, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I'm a huge fan of the Walther, and i would love to see him use his P99 again, i got a replica of it myself and it's really good. Especially is a Vega Holster!

In the book "Devil May Care", Bond looses his PPK frequently and is mostly seen using, of all things an [[M1911]]. That would be pretty cool. [[User:Scattergun|Scattergun]] 14:55, 8 April 2012 (EST)

While I maintain my opinion that the PPK, properly supplemented at appropriate times like in Quantum, is the only gun for Bond, I am sympathetic to the argument that he should be equipped with a more modern weapon. Therefore, I nominate the new SIG SAUER P224. It is of an appropriate size (unlike the Walther P99), has the proven professional pedigree of the P220/226 line, is of high quality (unlike the poor reputation-dogged Walther), isn’t the everyone’s gun the GLOCK is, and has some style and panache that the PPS, GLOCK, USP, and their polymer look-alikes lack. I would prefer 9mm for an agent operating worldwide, but the P224 is available in .40 and .357 SIG (now that’s a serious caliber). --[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 23:01, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:Of course the big problem with a non-Walther gun is that apparently the franchise has a fairly nice sponsorship deal going with Carl Walther GmbH. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:09, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

If the franchise has a big sponsorship with Walther, then why don't Walther make a gun especially designed for James Bond? It could be tailored to meet his needs (suggestions as to what they might be, please), and then they could release it for sale to the public. They'd make a fortune by selling it to James Bond fans, and serious shooters if it was very good. Q could make a big deal in-film about how good it is, and how Walther have made it especially for him. Good idea? Alasdair.

:Well, because imagine the PR when the gun made specially for James Bond is used to hold up a bank, they'd never hear the end of it, nevermind the kind of "MGM is arming our kids!" nonsense they'd get anyway. That and if you're a gun company exec and someone pitches that idea to you, your first reply would be "why not just have him use something we already make?" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:55, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

The whole debate about whether he should be using a PPK should be treated in the same way as whether it is realistic for Bond to engage in so many scuffles in nice, taper-fit Tom Ford suits and Church leather shoes. The cut is simply unrealistic for someone who wishes to conceal serious firepower. Given his obvious fondness for the Italian cut in his suits, it is fitting that Daniel Craig/James Bond should choose the PPK instead of the P99 he had used in the first movie, but, alas, such weapons remained adequate today for a Walter Mitty who would not see much more action. Since the 1970s, an operator carrying a PPK would simply not be taken seriously by fellow professionals, and would be laughed out of the Special Forces Club. A serious operator would simply rather wear a suit with the horrendous sack-like American cut, than do without a true combat pistol.

A former SBS operator would really be more likely to carry a SiG-Sauer P226. He might sacrifice two rounds to save 0.1 inch of butt length by carrying the P228, but someone who really means to can conceal either under a suit jacket. Even women operators could conceal a Heckler and Koch MP5K under their jacket. So the producer or director really missed a chance here to turn James Bond from being a mere walking advertisement for luxury brands to a more serious character (like back in Casino Royale).

Oh, by the way, using an Olympic Arms K23B is the ultimate mark of un-seriousness in a professional. Someone get that girl a HK 416.
:It's most likely what was avaiable and "unique" to the character in the scene. Personally the barrel would have given it crapped accuracy and shooting a guy brawling with a friendly on a moving train would take some expert marksmen even with a better rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:One word for you - TRADITION. Bond's always used a PPK (except in the first few novels), it's pretty much his signature gun. I'm glad they've gone back to it over the P99, which just never had the same classic feel to it.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 10:45, 1 August 2012 (CDT)

Of course. But that still means that the more edgy and realistic Daniel Craig reboot, which started so promisingly in Casino Royale, has now officially gone off the rails and U-turned back into cheesy entertainment territory. If that's the case, please give me back Pierce Brosnan's easy charm, Roger Moore's humour, or Sean Connery sheer animal charisma, not Daniel Craig's brooding sulkiness.

:I don't see how you can claim they've totally rejected the serious tone and gone back to being cheesy fun JUST because he's using the PPK again. Especially as you haven't even seen the film! I mean, do you not realise what a ridiculous jump in logic that is? That's like saying "Because Bond has a beard in one scene they're going to bring back Madonna."--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:51, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

I really wish we'd see other Walthers. Nothing wrong with "tradition' but how about the newer P99 or the PPQ or the PPS? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:Here's a solution to allow MGM (and Walther) to make boatloads of cash off an "official James Bond" pistol and not risk their reputation by having it used in an inappropriately-violent manner--make and market a PROP gun (that has a movable trigger/hammer, working magazine release, and dummy magazine, but obviously cannot be converted to live fire) that resembles what James Bond uses in a future movie. Just look at how many adults (and kids) will shell out lots of cash for prop lightsabers from the [[Star Wars]] series. If I were feeling in a "Q" mood, I'd mandate that it must have a tactical flashlight and laser sight at a minimum, and possibly a single-shot taser/stun gun weapon rail-mounted under the barrel just in case Bond needs less-lethal takedown capability and doesn't feel up to hand-to-hand combat. If you want to keep the prop out of the hands of kids, make it a "only X units produced" luxury good, possibly sold first at auction (so as to keep the price above what most little kids can beg and whine to their parents for). As for cheesy, aside from the various obvious film errors you can spot in the theatrical cut (i.e., Bond goes for a dip in a frozen lake and seconds later emerges completely dry), it seems that Bond has been taking notes from Sam Fisher (specifically the "Mark and Execute" gameplay mechanic from [[Splinter Cell: Conviction]]). --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 11:59, 5 January 2013 (EST)
:And what's to stop people using that to hold up a convenience store? There's a reason you can't buy Airsoft guns in this country without jumping through god knows how many legal hoops first or painting it bright green. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] ([[User talk:The Wierd It|talk]]) 12:13, 5 January 2013 (EST)

== What Happened??? ==

In [[Casino Royale (2006)]], Bond had good trigger discipline and kept good two handed grips on his guns, an now we have shots of him in a footchase pointing his PPK in front of him with his finger on the trigger... call me a safety Nazi but I expect better from a trained agent....--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:35, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

You mean the footchase at Tower Hill? Maybe, and correct me if i'm wrong he just shot someone....

I'm pretty sure Bond was chasing/shooting at someone so that would explain it [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:38, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

==CO19 holster weapons==

The lads from CO19 seem too have a Glock in their holsters. The norm for police carrying sidearms in the UK is a Glock 17, so its safe too assume that they are also Glock 17s.

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Several of the Bond forums have photo threads and their are images of the armourer hand the CO19 actors Glock 17s and G36s.

Regards,
Tecolote

==Trailer unknown gun==

The teaser trailer dropped today, and I have clocked an unknown gun around 1:11. It is scoped and suppressed, but I am unable too identify it. Can someone have a look and possibly screencap it? Cheers lads

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:It was an odd looking thing, whatever it is. It is mostly in shadow but you get one good whole weapon shot of it when there is a flash of light:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:I think if it is a real gun it is highly modified. My guess would be that it is a covert gun that passes as something else (like the [[(Day of the Jackal) - Custom Sniper Rifle|Day of the Jackal]] rifle), as the trigger is a random metal loop, and that vertical part is not a magazine, but appears to fold down from the front as a sort of monopod. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:06, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

It is some type of bolt action for sure,and definitely a covert job.
Regards,
Tecolote

The bolt looks like something off of an Accuracy International rifle.--[[User:6pulkpancerna|6pulkpancerna]] 11:37, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks, I should have known that as I was examining an AI in .300Win. the day before yesterday.

Regards,

Tecolote

I would say its a grease gun--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:26, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

:It deffinitely has nothing to do with an M3, as it is a bolt action feeding from a rifle size magazine (in the trailer it clearly shows the magazine being inserted into the rifle). The large vertical part appears to be a hand grip or support strut of some sort and is not a magazine. As for it being an Accuracy International I can see where you are coming from, but I don't think it is. First off the bolt stem on an AI AW curves backwards, and the bolt on this is straight. Also, the bolt is too far forward from the front of the weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:28, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Yeah, I was just kinda throwing it out there. If it is a M3, it looks like it is highly customized. But now I know it is not a M3.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:10, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

I don't think we'll be able to tell just from this. It looks almost like a custom mockup built around a real weapon. Hell, considering the unusual trigger, box-shaped suppressor, and various almost unrecognizable bits and pieces, it could very well be a completely inert prop with CGI firing. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 20:36, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

It could be a prototype weapon where the design has not been released to the general public. Otherwise, it is just a complete custom mockup.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:40, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

:Um, if the general public don't know about it then how is a movie director going to ask for one? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:59, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

looking at the bolt area and where the stock attaches, my money would be on it being a PGM Ultima Ratio, obviously heavily mocked up, but impossible to say for sure without more pics - TheSpannaMunkee

this rifle appears visually similar to the AMSD OM 50 Nemesis with a large amount of visual modification [[User:LachlanDMcCahon|LachlanDMcCahon]] ([[User talk:LachlanDMcCahon|talk]]) 01:54, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

You get a much closer look at it at the end of the Skyfall section of ''007 Legends''; since I imagine the game's designers had some access to the prop, it might be useful as a source of ID if it's a decent enough match to the movie version. I'll see about getting a shot of it. Also the Patrice boss fight in that game is stunningly dreadful. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 07:33, 21 January 2013 (EST)
:From what I've heard, "stunningly dreadful" pretty much describes the entire game. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:00, 21 January 2013 (EST)
::Yeah, at best it's mediocre and it isn't often at its best. But Patrice in particular is a throwback to the bad old days of sci-fi FPS bosses where you fight a totally ordinary man with a stupidly powerful weapon who can soak up enough firepower to sink a cruiser. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 17:25, 21 January 2013 (EST)

[[Image:Patrice-Sniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:Patrice-Sniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Also I'd forgotten that this re-enacts the part of the movie where Bond defeats him by abusing the hell out of a bunch of invincible glass doors. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 17:49, 21 January 2013 (EST)

:That looks pretty accurate to me, here is a shot from the trailer which shows the odd shape of the magazine well, and it seems to be a match. The texture on the side of the magazine is incorrect for the game gun though:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rile load.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:As to what the gun is, I still am not sure. I can't 100% justify this, but I have this feeling that the base of the weapon may actually be a Remington 700 in an AICS, without the polymer stock on the outside, and with a fabricated metal box over the top. [http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/03rangerxlt/AICS%20Installation/DSC00651.jpg Here] is an image of the bare chassis. To me it looks like what they may have done is to machine off the mag well forwards of the finger hole (hence the rough bare metal edge visible in the above shot). The shape behind the magazine well in the trigger area also looks like a match to me. If this is the case, everything upwards of the horizontal line about a centimetre below the ejection port is a cosmetic box, which would explain the rough finish appearing as if it is simply sheet metal that has been painted, rather than a more durable finish you would see on a genuine weapon part. There also appears to be some rough machining on the channel that the bolt handle travels in, which would also be part of this cosmetic fascia. Although not very clear, the magazine also looks like the [http://shoowars.info/img.php?fl=a406n4i443p2p256u4p4q2n4m5j434l4f5g4j4p5t5s4l4u2a4l4f4t22606c4r494w5g516u2n4f4n4l434j414v2q2q264v2v203039444p2v2o5n484 extended ones] that you can get for the Rem 700 AICS. Just to add before anyone suggest it, I don't think it is a genuine AI, as the magazine and bolt handle are the wrong shape for starters. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:07, 22 January 2013 (EST) One more thing, go [http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/misc/35909-aics-stock-install.html here] to see a load more images of the chassis, along with a standard length magazine which I believe is a match for this one. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:32, 22 January 2013 (EST)

== Additional images to be Id'ed ==

These are some more images from the trailer. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:16, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

In order: 1. Bond's PPK, which he promptly reloads

2. I assume his HK416 during his house shootout

3. The strange mock-up seen above

4. A Glock, or possibly a SIG? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 01:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

[[File:SkyF 1002.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1003.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1005.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:I'm hoping the gun in that last image is a P99 [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
::Number 4 isn't a Glock and I don't think it's a SIG either, it looks to have a slide mounted safety like a Beretta 92FS but the front profile makes me think it's some sort of Browning variant. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:22, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

The gun on the last picture looks like a P99 to me...But a 92FS isn't a crazy thought, maybe he picked it up from a Silva tug or something..

I'm inclined to think either Browning or 1911 variant --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:07, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:I reckon it's probably some sort of Browning or 1911 variant, the frame looks too long to be a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:48, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
I've taken a new screencap of the silhouette of the strange SMG thing he has, the best I could find. It looks vaguely like the silhouette of a MAT-49, though I doubt that's what it is. Hope it helps nonetheless: http://i49.tinypic.com/359ecl3.png [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:43, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:Look a couble of sections up and you will see a cap of it in the light, where you can see it is actually cuilt on (if anything) a bolt action rifle. What you are seeing as a long SMG magazine is a cosmetic thing stuck on the weapon which appears to be folded forward for storage. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:05, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

You know, i guess it's maybe a H&K USP because it looks like it so much
:Number 4 could be a HK USP actually. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
Haha, someone who's agreed with me ;)
:Sign your posts though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:42, 24 May 2012 (CDT)
All right, will do. --[[User:Walther_arms|walther_arms]]

Picture No. 4 is a Glock 17;there are a number of newly released stills that confirm this. Apparently Bond disarms the guy pointing one at him inthe percussion cap dueler photo and winds up aiming at(or maybe shooting) somebody with a 2 handed hold.
The dueler is almost certainly a Pedersoli repro of a LePage dueling pistol.

Regards,

Tecolote

Should there be a page made for Ola Rapace? The actor fighting bond wielding the converted Glock 17 and the unknowne Sub-Machine Gun?-Bravejoker

== trailer weapons ==

seen the new trailer bad guy seems to have custom take down sniper rifle fits with the mytos of the films allso looks like bond goes back to the p99 all i have seen is a bad blurry image but the trigger guard is defeniatly not a ppk jump in any one who can clear this up--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:49, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

ok the courtyard gun in the trailer 1 got a better look at it seems to be a glock 17 --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:46, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgr2syY_OU4&feature=youtu.be --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 09:58, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

:Awesome!! Just wanted to point out that there is also a slightly different US version, also viewable on the jamesbond007 channel on YouTube. I don't know about you guys, but I think this has some serious potential...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:54, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== Signature Walther PPK ==

a pistol Signature gun that only 007 can use did they not use this in license to kill in 1989 at least they upgraded the caliber to .380 acp (9mm x 17mm short) which is slightly better than the .32 acp (7.65x17mm) that was used in the books and films--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 14:51, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

Kinda. In License to Kill it was a sniper rifle disguised as a camera that was the gun that required a palm scan, not the Walther PPK [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:16, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== "12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun" ==

I've read that this is "Anderson Wheeler 500 Nitro Double Rifle" (source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465931593424952&set=a.430960320255413.102948.154596811225100&type=1&theater ); may it be true?
[[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 17:43, 2 August 2012 (CEST)
:I remember an article about a set visit where they were talking about the fact that the big bad in this film is fond of antique British weapons and uses percussion pistols and a .500 Nitro Express rifle, so that ID might be right. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:59, 2 August 2012 (CDT)
::I've changed the identification, since you are probably correct. For those who are interested, here is the company website: [http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/double_rifle.php Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle] --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer ==

I watched the new trailer this morning, and at the bit when Bond meets Q, I swear I could have heard Q saying the PPK is infact a PPK/S. Could be wrong, but did anyone else notice this? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:Yeah, it was even mentioned on the main page of Skyfall. I think it could definitely be a blued PPK/S based on the grip size. Can someone who knows PPKs better than I do confirm this?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:13, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

::Am I the only one who thinks that there might be a sort of shooting competition between Bond and Silva? I mean, look at the main page, where the P99 and the Flintlock pistols are. Bond is wearing the same suit, the background is the same and it's the same time of day. Just some food for thought --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 02:34, 3 August 2012 (CDT).
:::I don't think that's a P99, it could be the Glock that he has pointed at his head in the screenshot with Silva firing the Flintlock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:24, 3 August 2012 (CDT)

Ive taken a close look at the screen cap of Ola Rapace firing the Glock and if you look close enough it appears there is a selector switch on the side, meaning it could be a genuine Glock 18. -Bravejoker

==Just seen it==
Having just seen the film, I can happily say there were plenty of gunfights and we'll be spoilt for choice when screencapping it. There were so many closeups, especially of the PPK. Here's a list of all the guns I spotted:

* Walther PPK – used by Bond (naturally), Eve and M.
* Glock 17 – used extensively by London Met, Silva and his team when disguised as police officers. Bond definitely uses one on the island; it's not a P99.
* Glock 18 – used by Patrice during the opening scene in Turkey, first fitted with a Beta-C 100-round magazine, then standard 33-round magazines.
* Possible Steyr M9 – used by Silva during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* M4 – used by MI6 guards.
* H&K 416 – used by Silva’s men and several by Bond during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* H&K MP7 – used by Silva’s men on his island.
You're welcome - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:20, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:Fairly sure the pistol Silva had at the lodge was a [[Steyr M9-A1]], the shape of the frame around the rail is pretty distinctive. I think this may have also been the pistol that was used by one of the 3 bodyguards at the Macau place with the komodo dragon pit, you see it when Eve stamps on the guys arm to stop him picking it up (I think this is what happened, can't remember the exact chain of events). Also I think Patrice uses a Glock 17 during the assassination later in the film, in the shot where he removes the suppressor it has no selector on the left side of the slide. There was also a machine gun mounted on a Merlin helicopter during the climax but didn't get a clear look at it due to it being dark and the brief shots of it. My guess is that it is an M2, or possibly an M3M, based on the mounting. Also, I think we should simply say that the Anderson Wheeler 500 NE Double Rifle is used by Bond during the films climax, anything over and above that I would consider a spoiler (at least until the film is on home release and most people will have already seen it). I still have no idea what the weird sniper rifle is, it seems like it was designed so that the case itself is part of the gun (the scope is the carry handle and the long piece at the front is the front edge of the case), but I don't see the point of having a suitcase that turns into a gun when you can just carry a suitcase with a take-down rifle in it. Still, was a great film IMHO, would highly recommend. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:09, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

::Just saw the film again on Friday and, yeah, you're right it is a Steyr M9A1, I get the two mixed up. Patrice also ditches his Glock 18 when it runs empty and uses a standard 17 during the assassination scene, like you said. Also, I spotted a Tokarev on some news footage, but the footage was paused before it was fired. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:53, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:::Are we certain that it was an actual Glock 18 as a Glock 17 is usually just converted to fire full auto than them using an actual Glock 18. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 17:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::::It definitely is, the fire selector is clearly seen when it is first used. Conversely we can be relaively certain it is replaced with a Glock 17 later on as it lacks the selector (although the shot could have been flipped, I didn't look at the ejection port). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:40, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I believe the pistol used by the third bodyguard before Eve stomps on his arm was actually a Walther P99, the rear end looked pretty similar.[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 19:41, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:Possibly, I have only seen the film once and is a very brief shot. However, at the time it struck me as a Steyr M9-A1, and if it is not then it is quite a coincidence that a definite one turns up later in the film. Also, I don't think they would include a Walther P99 in a Bond film and have Bond not use it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:01, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::No, it definitely wasn't a Walther, the front end was too tall. A Steyr is our best guess at this stage. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 08:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Just to confirm, the MG mounted on the Merlin is an M2HB, it is visible in [http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=70141 this] VLOG about helicopter filming about 25 seconds in. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:42, 18 November 2012 (EST)

== Quick question regarding the police shootout during M's public inquiry ==

Would an armed British police officer in real life be allowed to open fire straight away on the bad guy, if the bad guy suddenly starts shooting without warning? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 03:27, 5 January 2013 (EST)
:I believe the rule is "real and imminent threat to life". If the suspect has already opened fire then they are justified in shooting back without warning. But don't quote me on that. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] ([[User talk:The Wierd It|talk]]) 09:14, 5 January 2013 (EST)

Another question I can think of. Does anyone here know any famous gun battles that involved armed Metropolitan Police officers in real life? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 15:12, 30 January 2013 (EST)

Aidan Gillen

2013-01-22T08:07:30Z

Btgr:

{{Actor Title}}
[[Image:12R 03.jpg|thumb|right|450px|{{PAGENAME}} as Miles Jackson holds a Taurus PT92 in ''[[12 Rounds]]''.]]
[[Image:TDKR 02.jpg|thumb|right|450px|{{PAGENAME}} as the CIA interrogator in ''[[The Dark Knight Rises]]''.]]

===Film===
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| [[Taurus PT92]] || Miles Jackson || ''[[12 Rounds]]'' || || 2009
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| [[Glock 17]] || Miles Jackson || ''[[12 Rounds]]'' || || 2009
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| [[SIG-Sauer P226]] || Barry Weiss || ''[[Blitz]]'' || || 2011
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| [[Heckler & Koch USP Compact]] || CIA Interrogator || ''[[The Dark Knight Rises]]'' || || 2012

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[[Category:Actor Male]]

Archer

2013-01-21T06:32:47Z

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|name=''Archer''
|picture = Archer_poster.jpg
|country = [[File:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|channel = FX
|genre = Spy / Workplace comedy
|dates = 2009-
|seasons = 4 (ongoing)
|episodes = 36 (ongoing)
}}

'''''Archer''''' is a spy/workplace comedy centered on Agent Sterling Archer, aka "Duchess." He's regarded as "the world's most dangerous spy," despite his narcissism, his alcoholism, his irresponsibility, and many, many, unresolved mother issues. The show premiered in 2009, followed by a full first season in 2010, with a full season in 2011. The shows features the voices of H. Jon Benjamin as Sterling Archer, Aisha Tyler as Lana Kane, Chris Parnell as Cyril Figgis, Jessica Walter as Malory Archer, Judy Greer as Cheryl/Carol/Carina/Cristal, and Amber Nash as Pam. It was created by Adam Reed, who had previously made ''Frisky Dingo'' and ''Sealab 2021'' along with Matt Thompson, who is also the executive producer. Reed also has written every single episode, which allows the series to have ongoing in-jokes, like Lana's freakishly large hands, Archer's obsession with [[Burt Reynolds]], and Malory's promiscuity.

Many details about the show are deliberately fuzzy, especially the time period that it is set. The clothing, furnishing and cars would indicate that it is set in the past, but modern cell phones and pop culture references ("Call Kenny Loggins, because you're in the Danger Zone,") would indicate that the show is set in more recent times, despite the fact that the Soviet Union still exists, with Josef Stalin still in power. Reed has admitted that he had intended the show to be set in the sixties, citing the influence of ''[[Mad Men]]'', but wanted cell phones because he didn't want to constantly have to have the characters find pay phones. Cultural attitudes are also more modern, with Malory citing diversity requirements, and openly gay characters.

'''The following guns were used in the television series ''Archer (2009)'':'''
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=Handguns=
==Walther PPK==
Sterling Archer's primary sidearm is a [[PPK#Walther_PPK|Walther PPK]]. In the early episodes, the pistol lacked detail, but by the end of season 2, there was so much detail, the serial number was visible. In season 2's "Tragical History" Archer correctly describes the pistol as having a seven shot capacity. According to the companion book ''How to Archer: The Ultimate Guide to Espionage and Style and Women and Also Cocktails Ever Written'', his PPK is chambered in .32 ACP.

[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther PPK stainless - 9mm Kurz aka 9x17mm (.380 ACP)]]

[[Image:Archer_PPK_early.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Oh ho, *I'm* queer. From the guy who's tiny gun came with a matching purse!" (Notice the lack of any details on the gun.)]]

[[Image:Archer_PPK_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A drunken Archer drops his pistol on stone steps in "Dial M for Mother."]]

[[Image:Archer_PPK_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cyril fires Archer's PPK in "Tragical History." In season 2, the animators added the cycling animation.]]

[[Image:Archer_PPK_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the hogs of war!" (Or whatever farm animal of war.)]]

[[Image:Archer_PPK_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Archer's PPK in the season 2 finale, "Double Trouble." Compare with the image above and notice that they used the same image on both sides of the gun.]]

[[Image:Archer_PPK_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Archer aims his PPK at Mounties in "The Limited" (S03E06).]]

[[Image:Archer_PPK_06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malory with a suppressed PPK in "Lo Scandolo" (S03E08). Later in the episode, Lana calls it a Walther PP in .32 ACP, but it appears to be the same animation model as Archer's PPK.]]

==M1911==
[[M1911#M1911A1|M1911A1]] pistols appeared in season 2. It is the sidearm of Ray Gillette. Archer uses it in "Placebo Effect," mainly as a tribute to ''[[Magnum P.I.]]'' None of the M1911s in the series appear to have safeties, however. In the three part season 3 premiere, Rip Reilly carries a nickle plated M1911 with white grips, and the gun ends up being used by several characters over the three-episode arc. There are numerous continuity problems though, as the grips change back and forth from white to black.

[[Image:NickelM1911A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Commercial Satin Nickel M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP. Manufactured on license by Remington Rand.]]

[[Image:Archer_M1911_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gandalf" approaches Archer and Lana with an M1911 drawn in "Pipeline Fever." Apparently, no one explained to them how reservations work.]]

[[Image:Archer_M1911_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dr. Krieger puts down his hybrid pig/boy in "Stage Two." "Oh Piggly..."]]

[[Image:Archer_M1911_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Did you see Regis this morning?" Archer pays tribute to Magnum P.I. in "Placebo Effect."]]

[[Image:Archer_M1911_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After Cyril shoots Brett again, Lana decides to unload his pistol. She also remembers to eject the round in the chamber. ("El Secuestro.")]]

[[Image:Archer_M1911_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ray with his pair of engraved M1911s in "Double Trouble."]]

==Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer==
Manfred has a [[Mauser_C96#Mauser_M712_Schnellfeuer|Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer]] as his sidearm, using it to shoot Torvald Utne (not the Olympic shot-putter) in "Killing Utne." It is revealed in flashbacks that Malory Archer also used one when she was a field agent ("Double Deuce.)

[[Image:MauserM712Schnellfeuer.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer]]

[[Image:Archer_M712_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Manfred with his Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer in "Killing Utne."]]

[[Image:Archer_M712_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Manfred guns down Utne in full auto, and not using blanks. (Unless the back of his skull decided at that exact moment to explode outward.)]]

[[Image:Archer_M712_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Manfred shoos away Trinette in "Dial M for Mother."]]

[[Image:Archer_M712_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Le Chuffre with his M712 in "Jeu Monégasque."]]

[[Image:Archer_sawed_C96_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malory and Woodhouse gun down the enemy agents chasing after her. She only fires her Mauser semi-automatically, however. ("Double Deuce.")]]

==Beretta 92F==
Captain Lammers uses a [[Beretta_92_pistol_series#Beretta_92F.2FFS|Beretta 92F]] in "Skytanic." Archer also uses a suppressed Beretta 92F in one scene in "Skorpio." Lana Kane also carries a pair of Beretta 92F pistols in a dual-pistol shoulder rig.

[[Image:Beretta92F_LeftSide.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92F - 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Archer_M92_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Captain Lammers!" (Nice read, Velma.)]]

[[Image:Archer_M92_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"What? They're YOUR clothes, idiot!"]]

[[Image:Archer_SIG_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Torvald, feel free to cup anything in the room." ("Killing Utne")]]

[[Image:Archer_M92_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of Lana's Berettas.]]

[[Image:Archer_B92_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NYPD officers with Berettas.]]

==Tokarev TT-33==
In the ''Archer'' universe, the official sidearm of Soviet Forces is still the [[Tokarev TT-33 Pistol]].

[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]

[[Image:Archer_TT33_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Major Jakov's assistant holds a gun to a scientist's head. This is from season 1, before they reworked the guns.]]

[[File:Archer S02E12 Tokarev.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

[[Image:Archer_TT33_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barry Dillon shoots his way out of a Soviet checkpoint in "White Nights." The TT-33 is in mid-battery.]]

[[Image:Archer_TT33_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"What? We don't have any 'peppers!'"]]

[[Image:Archer_TT33_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"What is this, a broken glass factory?"]]

==Webley Mk IV==
Woodhouse's old World War I squadron mate brings by a [[Webley Mk IV]] that had belonged to his old friend, Captain Reggie Thistleton in "Double Deuce." This is one of the few firearms referred to by name on this show. This Webley is later used to knock Archer out. Canadian Mounties are later shown to be armed with Webleys in "The Limited" (S03E06).

[[Image:Webley-MK-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Webley Mk.IV WW2 British Army version chambered for .38 S&W]]

[[Image:Archer_Webley_1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Although the British used Webley Mk VIs in World War I, this appears to be a Webley Mk IV.]]

[[Image:Archer_Webley_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Oh, I'll just yank his pants off, splash a lot of scotch and women's underthings about, and then tell him he slipped and fell chasing a terrified Asian prostitute out onto the patio. It's not the first time I've bashed his head in and had to cover my tracks."]]

[[Image:Archer_Webley_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Mounties draw their Webleys.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 629==
Since retiring from the field, Malory Archer's primary handgun is a [[Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_29#Smith_.26_Wesson_Model_629|Smith & Wesson Model 629]], tricked out with a scope and laser. She sleeps with it by her beside in "Dial M for Mother." She mentions that it is a .44 Magnum during a flashback in "Pipeline Fever."

[[Image:S&WModel629.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 629 with Hogue Grips - .44 magnum]]

[[Image:Archer_629_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's there? What do you want? Because all you're going to get is holes. I mean, holes in YOU!"]]

[[Image:Archer_629_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malory fires on Archer as he's chopping through her door with a cleaver. He somehow survives six .44 Magnum rounds to the chest.]]

[[Image:Archer_629_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malory chambers what appears to be a hollow-point round in "Double Trouble."]]

[[Image:Archer_629_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malory, Lana and Ray come to Archer's apartment to kill Katya.]]

==Desert Eagle Mark VII==
Archer's rival, Barry Dillon, carries a nickel [[Desert_Eagle#Desert_Eagle_Mark_VII| Desert Eagle Mark VII,]] which he talks TO, not WITH. Lana Kane also uses a nickel Desert Eagle on occasion.

[[Image:DesertEagleMarkVIInickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Desert Eagle MK VII - .44 Magnum w/ nickel finish.]]

[[Image:Archer_DE_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barry, getting ready to shoot Archer in "Job Offer."]]

[[Image:Archer_DE_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ramon Limon firing a blued Desert Eagle in "Honeypot."]]

[[Image:Archer_DE_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"It wasn't a conversation, Lana, I was just talking TO my gun, not with it. Pretty big difference."]]

[[Image:Archer_DE_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana fires a Desert Eagle right next to Archer's ear in "Movie Star."]]

[[Image:Archer_DE_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Le Chuffre's henchman with a blued Desert Eagle in "Jeu Monégasque." Also pictured, Lana's Johnny Bench-ian, steam-shovelly, Truckasaurus hands.]]

==Luger P08==
Krenshaw/Kremensky uses a Luger P08 in the pilot, "Mole Hunt." Lugers later show up in "Double Deuce" and "El Secuestro."

[[Image:P08Luger1917.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Archer_Luger_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Krenshaw holds a Luger on Archer.]]

[[Image:Archer_Luger_MP40_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Enemy agents confront Malory in Tangiers.]]

[[Image:Archer_Luger_M1917_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Luger on the table in "El Secuestro." The improvement in the weapons artwork is clear.]]

==M1917 Revolver==
A [[M1917 Revolver]] is shown on the a table in "El Secuestro" and "Stage Two."

[[Image:ColtModel1917.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1917 Revolver (Military issue with lanyard ring) - .45 ACP]]

[[Image:Archer_M1917_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M1917 revolver on the table in "Stage Two." ]]

[[Image:Archer_Luger_M1917_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M1917 revolver on the table in "El Secuestro." ]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 67==
A sky marshal pulls a [[Smith & Wesson Model 67]] when Archer pulls out his sawed-off double barreled shotgun ON A PLANE.

[[Image:S&WM67.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 67 - .38 Special]]

[[Image:Archer_M67_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The sky marshal pulls his gun when Archer pulls out his sawed-off double barreled shotgun]]

[[Image:Archer_M67_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sawed-off shotgun in one hand, hurricane in the other.]]

==Colt Python==
Woodhouse wields a [[Colt Python]] in a flashback in "Blood Test." Malory uses one in one of her flashbacks in "Job Offer."

[[Image:ColtPython6In.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Python with 6" Barrel - .357 Magnum]]

[[Image:Archer_Python_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Five grams of junk says I can shoot a piña colada off your wife's head."]]

[[Image:Archer_Python_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Alright ya yellow sons of bitches, let's dance!"]]

==Colt Official Police==
Sterling is shown with a [[Colt Official Police]] in a flashback during "Killing Utne."
[[Image:ColtOP4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Official Police - 4" Barrel - .38 Special]]

[[Image:Archer_OP_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first of THREE(!) Russian roulette scenes in the series.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
A [[SIG-Sauer P226]] is seen on the floor in "Skorpio." It is missing most of its controls.
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A factory black (K-Kote) SIG-Sauer P226 pistol chambered in 9x19mm. This is a real movie gun and has appeared in several motion pictures.]]

[[Image:Archer_SIG_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Skorpio's henchman reaches for the P226 before Archer puts a bullet through his head.]]

=Shotguns=
==Sawed-off Double Barreled Shotgun==
When he doesn't have to worry about concealment (and even when he does) Archer carries a [[12_Gauge_Double_Barreled_Shotgun#Short_barreled_Side_by_Side_Shotgun_.28Sawed_Off.29|Sawed-off double barreled shotgun]] that he "borrowed" from Woodhouse in "Pipeline Fever." Apparently, Bama McCall in ''[[Gator#Lupara| Gator]]'' made a big impression on him. Woodhouse is also shown using (presumably) the same gun in flashbacks.

[[Image:Remington SBS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington Spartan Sawed Off shotgun - 12 gauge]]

[[Image:Archer_sawed_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"YOU drop it!"]]

[[Image:Archer_sawed_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Let me see c*ck-flavored spit!"]]

[[Image:Archer_sawed_C96_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Woodhouse with his shotguns.]]

==Double Barreled Shotgun==
[[Burt Reynolds]] is armed with a [[Double Barreled Shotgun]] in "The Man from Jupiter" (S03E04).

[[Image:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|400px|1960s Era Commercial Stevens hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]

[[Image:Archer_DBL_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt with a shotgun in one hand, crossbow in the other.]]

==Mossberg 500==
Ray's brother Randy uses a [[Mossberg 500]] in "Bloody Ferlin" (S03E09).

[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 Gauge]]

[[Image:Archer_M500_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Archer_M500_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Archer_M500_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Submachine Guns=
==TEC-9==
Lana Kane is often seen with a pair of [[Tec-9#Intratec_TEC-9|TEC-9's]], which would be a good fit for her Johnny Bench-ian, steam-shovelly, Truckasaurus hands. According to the dialogue, they are TEC-9s, and fire full auto, but lack the sling rings of a TEC-9. Later in season 2, she can be seen carrying them in her shoulder rig. Archer takes one in "Swiss Miss." In "Double Trouble", she carries what appears to be a pair of nickle plated or silver TECs, after Katya ruins her main pair by shooting the barrels. They are not seen again.

[[Image:TEC-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Intratec TEC-9 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Archer_T9_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana holds off ODIN agents in "The Rock." (Note the lack of sling rings and location of the cocking handles.]]

[[Image:Archer_T9_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ramon Limon with a TEC-9 he hid in the salad.]]

[[Image:Archer_T9_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana with her destroyed TEC-9s in "Double Trouble." Notice that the cocking handles are now on the same side, albeit the wrong side.]]

[[Image:Archer_T9_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana fires full auto at Le Chuffre's helicopter.]]

[[Image:Archer_T9_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana cocks her TEC-9 in "Bloody Ferlin" (S03E09).]]

==MP40==
The [[MP40]] is the SMG seen most on "Archer." ODIN agents use it almost exclusively, as do gay interior decorators/assassins for hire Charles and Rudy in "Honeypot."

[[Image:MP40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Archer_MP40_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana holds off Skorpio's goon (in her Fiocchi knockoffs) with a MP40 in "Skorpio."]]

[[Image:Archer_MP40_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|ODIN agents scramble in "The Rock."]]

[[Image:Archer_MP40_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|El Frente Rojo kidnappers chase after Archer.]]

==PPSh-41==
KGB defector Katya Kasanova uses a [[PPSh-41_/_PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]] to rescue Archer in the Soviet Union in "White Nights."

[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Soviet PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]

[[Image:Archer_PPSh_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Katya to the rescue.]]

[[Image:Archer_PPSh_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Katya mows down the Soviet firing squad...]]

[[Image:Archer_PPSh_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...although she stood a very good chance of killing Archer as well.]]

==Steyr TMP==
Some members of a Cuban hit squad are armed with [[Steyr TMP]] SMGs ("Diversity Hire.")

[[Image:SteyrTMP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr TMP 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Archer_TMP_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"And that..."]]

[[Image:Archer_UziTMP_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"...is a Cuban hit squad."]]

==Uzi==
Other members of the Cuban hit squad are armed with [[Uzi]] SMGs ("Diversity Hire.") The Cuban hit squad returns with Uzi's in "The Man from Jupiter" (S03E04). The Yakuza have them in "Drift Problem" (S03E07)

[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi with buttstock collapsed - 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Archer_Uzi_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_Uzi_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Cubans mistake Ray for Archer.]]

[[Image:Archer_Uzi_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Yakuza fire on the ISIS crew.]]

==MAC-10==
KGB agents used [[MAC-10]] SMGs in "Fugue and Riffs" (S04E01).

=Rifles=
==AK-47==
The [[AK-47]] shows up numerous times during the series. They appear to be based on real AK-47s, with the milled receiver and open-topped front sight.

[[Image:AK-47 type II Part DM.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Type II AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]

[[Image:Archer_AK_MP40_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the open-topped front site on Archer's AK-47 in "Skorpio." (And how often is an animated character captured in mid-blink?)]]

[[Image:Archer_AK_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Soviet firing squad about to shoot Archer. Since their commander appears to be Airborne, they might actually be able to hit him.]]

[[Image:Archer_AK_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_AK_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Archer mows down a pirate with an AK-47.]]

[[Image:Archer_AK47_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ray with an AK-47.]]

==M14==
Cyril channels Private Pyle from ''[[Full Metal Jacket]]'' with an [[M14 Rifle|M14]] after Lana decides to sleep with all the men at ISIS as a form of revenge in "Dial M for Mother." Cyril and Calzado hunt for Archer and Lana with M14s in the Colombian jungle before Cyril catches up with Lana in "El Contador" (S03E05). Randy Gillette has one in "Bloody Ferlin" (S03E09) that fires full auto.

[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

[[Image:Archer_M14_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Seven, six, two, millimeter. Full. Metal. Jacket- SOMEONE'S IN HERE!"]]

[[Image:Archer_M14_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_M14_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_M14_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_M14_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==M21==
An [[M14#M21.2FM25_Sniper_Rifle|M21 rifle]] is seen in a crate during a flashback to the last moments of Agents Ruiz, Pak, and Mgumbe (all of which recycle the same background) in "Diversity Hire."

[[Image:Xm21rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M21 Sniper Rifle 7.62x51mm NATO]]

[[Image:Archer_M21_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Ruiz! Hey man, talk to these chicks, alright? Tell them how we're really ISIS agents, they don't believe me. Helloooo, Senor Wingmaannnn..."]]

==Heckler & Koch PSG-1==
Except in one instance, the [[Heckler_%26_Koch_PSG-1#Heckler_.26_Koch_PSG-1|Heckler & Koch PSG-1]] is the primary sniper rifle of ISIS.

[[File:H&KPSG01LongMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO with 20 round magazine.]]

[[Image:Archer_MSG_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"A Charles Whitman Sampler?" ("Diversity Hire")]]

[[Image:Archer_MSG_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Archer announcing he's about to embark on a dangerous counter-sniping operation. ("Movie Star")]]

[[Image:Archer_MSG_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Some people will do anything for a chance to direct.]]

==Walther WA 2000==

Archer uses a [[Walther WA 2000]] sniper rifle in "Placebo Effect" to take out some guards.

[[Image:Walther-WA2000.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther WA 2000 .300 Win Mag]]

[[Image:Archer_WA2000_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Well excuse me, Lana, it's a rampage!"]]

[[Image:Archer_WA2000_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Plus, I can only assume a Brazilian mob would be a jillion times sexier."]]

==Mauser Gewehr 1898==

A German sniper sees Woodhouse and Reggie after Woodhouse braves No Man's Land to save Reggie in "Double Deuce." The bolt is on the wrong side of the rifle.

[[Image:Mauser g98.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mauser Gewehr 1898 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

[[Image:Archer_1898_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==XM16E1==
Archer and Lana carry [[M16_rifle_series#XM16E1_Rifle|XM16E1]] rifles in "El Contador." They are armed with them again in "Drift Problem" (S03E07). Like all the other guns, the animators often mix up the sides.

[[Image:XM16E1_real.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM16E1 rifle with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]

[[Image:Archer_M16A1_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Notice the lack of fencing around the mag release, which is on the wrong side.]]

[[Image:Archer_M16A1_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_XM16E1_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_XM16E1_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Machine Guns=
==Browning M2HB==

An ODIN agents fires from a mounted [[Browning_M2#Browning_M2_Heavy_Barrel|M2HB heavy machine gun]] in "The Rock."

[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on M3 tripod - .50 BMG.]]

[[Image:Archer_M2_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|So, is it just bolted into the masonry?]]

==Maxim MG08/15==

German fighters are armed with dual [[Maxim#Maxim_MG08.2F15|MG08/15 machine guns.]] ("Double Deuce")

[[Image:Maxim MG08-15.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08/15 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

[[Image:Archer_MG08_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A German fighter fires on Foxley.]]

[[Image:Archer_LMG08_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"And then, the sky just shattered..."]]

==Vickers Aircraft Machine Gun==
The Sopwith Camels of Woodhouse's old RFC squadron are armed with [[Vickers#Vickers_Aircraft_Machine_Gun|Vickers Aircraft Machine Guns]].

[[Image:VickersAircraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vickers Aircraft Machine Gun - .303 British ]]

[[Image:Archer_Vickers_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vickers machine guns on Reggie's Sopwith Camel. In Season 3's "Skin Game," Woodhouse specifically said that his unit used Sopwith Camels.]]

[[Image:Archer_Vickers_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vickers on Foxley's plane.]]

==Hybrid M60==
In "Heart of Archness Pt.III," Lana fires on pirates with a hybrid [[M60]] door gun from a UH-1 Huey. This M60 has spade grips like a M60D but still retains the forward hand guard.

[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun with bipod folded - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

[[Image:Archer_M60_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Archer tries to coach his pirate lacrosse team as Lana looks on.]]

[[Image:Archer_M60_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana then mows down Archer's lacrosse team, including some redshirt freshmen middies he was grooming.]]

==Browning M1919==
A pair of [[Browning M1919]] machine guns deploy from the grill of the Dodge Challenger Special Agent Edition in "Drift Problem".
[[File:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919 - .30-06]]
[[File:Archer S03E04 30 cal.jpg|thumb|600px|none|"Twin .30 cal machine guns mounted in the front..."]]

=Grenades/Explosives=
==M18A1 Claymore==
Ramon Limon has a [[M18A1 Claymore]] handy to decorate Malory's old apartment in Miami ("Honeypot"). Archer, showing some competence, disarms a Claymore in "El Contador".

[[Image:M18a1 07.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel mine]]

[[Image:Archer_M18_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Claymore and detonator.]]

[[Image:Archer_M18_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Oh crap."]]

[[Image:Archer_M18_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Claymore mine, full of steel balls that fly a thousand meters, or 'one click,' a second right at dick level."]]

==M67 hand grenade==
Archer pulls out an [[M67 hand grenade]] after Skorpio confronts Lana and him after their threesome. Lana carries a pair of M67's in "El Contador."

[[Image:Baseball.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M67 fragmentation grenade]]

[[Image:Archer_M26_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Damn, I had something for this too...ummmm...dammit! Eat grenade, stupids!"]]

[[Image:Archer_M67_02.jpg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana with M67s on her web gear.]]

==M26 hand grenade==
Archer has a black [[M26 hand grenade]] in "El Contador."
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]

[[Image:Archer_M67_02.jpg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Archer with his black M26.]]

==Mk 2 hand grenade==

Archer lodges a [[Mk 2 hand grenade]] into the anus of an Irish gangster to persuade him to divulge the location of his boss in "Placebo Effect." Several are thrown, only to be caught and tossed back by Archer lacrosse style, in "Heart of Archness, Pt. II". The animators also used the same model for a flash bang grenade.

[[Image:MK2_grenade_DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 "Pineapple" High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]

[[Image:Archer_Mk2_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is a shot from Archer's suit up scene earlier in the episode, but there's a good possibility that this is the actual grenade Archer sticks in the guy's butt.]]

[[Image:Archer_Mk2_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Archer removes the pin from the Mk 2 grenade lodged up Whitey's anus.]]

[[Image:Archer_Mk2_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pirates toss a Mk 2 grenade into the radio room. The animators left the spoon in place.]]

==RPG-7==
Among the ISIS equipment that Cyril, Krieger and Pam fence to gangsters in "Jeu Monégasque" is an [[RPG-7]].

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]

[[Image:Archer_RPG7_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gangsters off to fence RPG-7s, computers, a bullet-proof tuxedo jacket, and Pam's puffy stickers.]]

[[Image:Archer_RPG_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pirates attempt to shoot down an escaping helicopter]]

[[Image:Archer_RPG_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The RPG round in mid-flight.]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Orion Flare Gun==
Rip Riley threatens Archer with an [[Orion Flare Gun]] in "Heart of Archness, Part 1".
[[Image:Orion_Flare_gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Orion flare gun 12 Gauge]]

[[Image:Archer_orion_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rip Riley points the Orion Flare Gun at Archer.]]

[[Image:Archer_orion_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_orion_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bit of a one-sided Mexican stand-off.]]

==Palmer Cap-Chur Short Range Projector==
Krieger uses a [[Air_Guns#Palmer_Cap-Chur_Short_Range_Projector|Palmer Cap-Chur Short Range Projector]] tranquillizer gun in "El Contador".
[[File:Cap-Chur Short.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Palmer Cap-Chur Short Range Projector]]
[[File:Archer s03e02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:Archer s03e02 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=="M41 Mark 2 Plasma Pulse Rifle"==
The "M41 Mark 2 Plasma Pulse Rifle" is used by ISIS and mutineers in the two part episode "Space Race". It has an underbarrel concussion grenade launcher. It bears some resemblance to the [[M41A Pulse Rifle]].

[[Image:Archer_Pulse_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Drake shows off the plasma pulse rifle.]]

[[Image:Archer_Pulse_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lana with the plasma pulse rifle and ''[[Aliens]]'' inspired body armor.]]

[[Image:Archer_Pulse_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cyril fires his rifle blindly.]]

=="Ion Cannon"==
The mutineers on the ''Horizon'' fire a bazooka-like "ion cannon" towards the ISIS team.

[[Image:Archer_ion_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:Archer_ion_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Rocket Launcher==
Skorpio's henchmen prepare to fire rocket launchers at Archer and Lana in "Skorpio." These are probably supposed to be [[FIM-43 Redeye]] missiles, since Skorpio was supposed to be selling them, but don't look like Redeyes at all.

[[Image:Archer_Redeye_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Oerlikon 20mm Cannon==
The main armament of the pirate ship appears to be an [[Oerlikon 20mm Cannon]].

[[Image:20mm_Oerlikon_Cannon.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Oerlikon Cannon - 20mm]]

[[Image:Archer_Oerlikon_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Oerlikon mounted on the bow of the ship behind a gun shield.]]

==".25 cal Chekhov"==
This is the pistol that Archer gives to Cyril in "Training Day." The name comes from the literary technique "Chekhov's gun," which comes into play later in this episode. It's never seen again after "Training Day." Possibly a North American Arms Guardian chambered in .25.

[[Image:Archer_Chekov_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cyril using the "Chekhov" during a live fire exercise in Archer's apartment.]]

==SS-1 Scud missile==
An SS-1 Scud transporter erector launcher is shown in "Space Race (Part 1)" (S03E10).
[[Image:Archer_Scud_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Molotov Cocktail==
Archer used Molotov Cocktails in "Fugue and Riffs" (S04E01).

==The ISIS Armory==
The ISIS armory has a large collection of weaponry on its walls, much of it accurately rendered, except for scale. The [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion]] for example, is ludicrously large.

[[Image:Archer_armory_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is the widest shot of the armory. From top right, excluding the pistols, which are too small in this shot, there are two [[MP5#Heckler_.26_Koch_MP5SD|MP5SD3s]], a [[Bren gun]], two [[AK-74]]s, a [[Lewis gun]], and pistols that are covered below. From top left, there are two [[RPG-7]]s, a [[FIM-92A Stinger]], a [[PIAT]], an [[M60 machine gun]], an [[MP40]], a ridiculously over-sized [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion]], an [[Uzi]], [[Heckler & Koch P7M8]] and a [[Walther_MPL#Walther_MPL|Walther MPL.]]]]

[[Image:Archer_armory_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is a closer shot of some of the pistols from "Movie Star." You can see a [[Beretta 92]], a [[Luger P08]], an out of scale [[AMC Auto Mag Pistol]], and the grip of a [[Heckler & Koch P7 pistol series|H&K P7.]]]]

[[Image:Archer_armory_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This shot from "El Secuestro" shows a bit more. To the extreme left, there appears to be some [[M16#M16A2_Rifle|M16A2 rifles]], or possibly some M16A1s with A2 handguards. You can also see Lana's TEC-9 under her shoulder and what looks like the front view of a [[Walther MPL]]]].

[[Image:Archer_armory_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This shot from "Bloody Ferlin" shows another angle of the first shot.]]

==Scaling issues==
Scaling, as seen in the armory shots above, used to be a problem, especially in the early episodes.

[[Image:Archer_scaling.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Archer looks at the equipment that Krieger issued for Cyril in the second episode, "Training Day." There's what appears to be an out of scale [[SIG-Sauer P220]], which, compared to the poison pen, (and the cap which slips off for like, no reason), might be only four inches long.]]

[[Image:Archer_scaling_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closer shot. It is properly scaled by episode 4.]]

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Archer

2013-01-21T06:28:05Z

Btgr:

Ultimate Force - Season 1

2013-01-18T07:07:59Z

Btgr: /* Glock 17 */

{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Ultimate Force - Season 1
|picture = 51JAP4K0SHL. SS500 .jpg
|country = [[Image:UKD.jpg|25px]] GBR
|channel = ITV
|creator = Rob Heyland [[Chris Ryan]]
|genre = Action War
|dates = September 16th, 2002 - October 12th, 2002
|episodes = 6
|character1=SSgt. Henry 'Henno' Garvie
|actor1=[[Ross Kemp]]
|character2=Cpl.Jamie Dow
|actor2=[[Jamie Draven]]
|character3=Cpl. Alex Leonard
|actor3=[[Sendhil Ramamurthy]]
|character4 =Sgt. Pete Twamley
|actor4=[[Tony Curran]]
|character5=Cpl. Ricky Mann
|actor5=[[Danny Sapani]]
|character6=Cpl. Jem Poynton
|actor6=[[Elliot Cowan]]
|character7=Lt. Dotsy Doheny
|actor7=[[Jamie Bamber]]
|character8=Cpt. Caroline Walshe
|actor8=[[Alex Reid]]
|character9=Col. Aidan Dempsey
|actor9=[[Miles Anderson]]
}}
'''The following weapons were used in the first season of the television series ''Ultimate Force'':'''
==Handguns==

===SIG-Sauer P226===
The [[Sig Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]] is the preferred sidearm of Red Troop and is used throughout the series. It is frequently seen holstered whenever the team are wearing their counter terrorist gear, but is normally only used for undercover work.
[[Image:SigP226.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 101 13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Jamie Dow ([[Jamie Draven]]) and Cpl. Alex Leonard ([[Sendhil Ramamurthy]]) are issued their P226s along with four magazines each in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1).]]
[[File:UF 102 31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Capt. Caroline Walshe ([[Alex Reid]]) carries a P226, and can be seen using it in "Just a Target" (Episode 1.2).]]
[[File:UF 102 39.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 105 16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SSgt. Henry 'Henno' Garvie ([[Ross Kemp]]) prominently uses a P226 whilst attempting to stop an IRA kidnapping in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5).]]
[[File:UF 105 29.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 105 52.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Fintan Maguire ([[David Wilmot]]) fires a pair of P226s in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5). This is a continuity error, as he was previously armed with his own [[Glock 17]], and a single P226 which he had taken from Henno.]]

===Beretta 92===
In "Just A Target" (Episode 1.2) one of the anti-globalization terrorists, Simon ([[Jamie Sives]]), uses an original [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92]], as referenced by the fact that it has a rounded trigger guard and a frame-mounted safety on one side only. This particular gun features plain grip panels, and a stepped slide (it narrows in thickness just ahead of the chamber) indicating that it is one of the first 1000 or so pistols made before the design was changed to the familiar profile.
[[File:Beretta 92 early stepped slide.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92, early model with unbranded grip panels and stepped slide - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 102 23.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Simon sitting with his Beretta 92. Just visible in this shot is the indent in the bottom of the slide for the frame mounted safety.]]
[[File:UF 102 35.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the lack of the slide mounted safety. Also visible in this shot is the step on the slide level with the front of the trigger guard.]]

===Beretta 92FS===
A [[Beretta 92FS]] is used by Brian Duggan ([[Tom Georgeson]]) in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1) and by a Moussa ([[Serge Soric]]) "Breakout" (Episode 1.4).
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 101 17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brian Duggan (under the alias "Boss") holds the back manage hostage with his Beretta 92FS in "The Killing house".]]
[[File:UF 101 31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Boss" executes someone with his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[File:UF 104 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 104 22.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Moussa threatens Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) with his Beretta 92FS in "Breakout".]]
[[File:UF 104 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another view of Moussa's Beretta. Note the slide mounted safety and finger step identifying this as the FS model.]]

===Browning HP===
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is occasionally used by members of Red troop, as opposed to the much more prevalent SIG-Sauer pistols.
[[File:BrowningHP-BevHillsCop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 102 37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) can be briefly seen using a Browning at the end of "Just a Target" (Episode 1.2).]]
[[File:UF 106 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Mick Sharp ([[Laurence Fox]]) loads his Browning during his one deployment with Red Troop in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6).]]

===Colt Combat Commander===
A [[M1911 pistol series#Colt Commander|Colt Combat Commander]] is used by one of the bank robbers in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1). It is fitted with wooden grips, and has either a parkerised, or very well worn blued finish.
[[File:ColtCombatCommander.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Combat Commander - .45 ACP]]
[[File:UF 101 06.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Brian Duggan ([[Tom Georgeson]]) brandishes the Commander before issuing the pistol to another of the bank robbers.]]
[[File:UF 101 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The pistol is slid across the table.]]
[[File:UF 101 10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 101 26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Weasel" ([[Russell Tovey]]) strokes his Commander.]]
[[File:UF 101 41.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) about to pick up the Commander from the body of one of the robbers.]]

===CZ 75 "Pre-B"===
An anti-globalization terrorist, Rod ([[Barney Craig]]), in "Just A Target" (Episode 1.2) is seen with a [[CZ 75|"Pre-B" CZ 75]].
[[Image:Cz75.jpg|thumb|none|400px|"Pre-B" CZ 75 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 102 17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rob relaxes with his CZ-75. Note the rounded trigger guard identifying this as the pre-B model]]
[[File:UF 102 30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rob threatens Lorraine ([[Madeleine Worrall]]) with his CZ-75.]]
[[File:UF 104 01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Pre-B CZ-75 can also be briefly seen in "Breakout" (Episode 1.4) in the hands of the security guard at the biological weapons research centre.]]

===CZ 75B===
A [[CZ 75|CZ 75B]] is used by one of the IRA terrorists ([[Sean Gilder]]) in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5).
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg|thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 105 33.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the terrorists forces Jamie to look at a dead body using his CZ 75B. This can be recognised as a Type B by the squared off and grooved trigger guard.]]

===Glock 17===
[[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17]] pistols are used by Royal Ulster Constabulary officers as well as IRA terrorists disguised as RUC officers in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5).
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 9mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49193.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Fintan Maguire ([[David Wilmot]]) firing a Glock 17 at Henno and Caroline. This weapon is presumably stolen from the RUC, along with the vehicles and uniforms.]]
[[File:UF 105 14.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another of the IRA terrorists can be seen with a Glock as he abducts Jamie. In this shot, the weapon appears to be a rubber prop gun, which makes sense as it is being used to hit an actor.]]
[[File:UF 105 46.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) also carries a Glock 17 as her side-arm in the episode.]]
[[File:UF 105 48.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jack Cullen ([[Dermot Crowley]]) later holds Caroline hostage with her own Glock.]]

===Makarov PM===
[[Makarov PM]]s with black grips are seen on multiple occasions being used by terrorists.
[[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Makarov PM - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[File:UF 104 03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 104 05.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ruslan ([[Dragan Micanovic]]) uses his Makarov to coerce Sergei ([[Rad Lazar]]) in "Breakout" (Episode 1.4).]]
[[File:UF 104 13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ruslan uses a combination of bioengineered Anthrax and a Makarov whilst letting Caroline into the building.]]
[[File:UF 104 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ruslan pointing his Makarov at Henno.]]
[[File:UF 104 34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A side view of Ruslans Makarov as he shoots out security cameras.]]
[[File:UF 106 56.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Haradic ([[Velibor Topic]]) draws a Makarov before being disarmed by Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6).]]

===Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB===
"Badger" ([[Eddie Marsan]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10|Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB]] which was given to him by Brian Duggan (Tom Georgeson) in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1).
[[File:S&WModel10HB.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB (heavy barrel) - .38 Special]]
[[File:UF 101 19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Badger sitting on his Model 10 HB whilst waiting in the van.]]
[[File:UF 101 20.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Model 10 HB lays on the floor after Badger drops it. Note the untapered barrel identifying this as the HB version.]]
[[File:UF 101 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Badger is forced to take a police officer hostage after he sees his revolver.]]

===Unknown Pistol 1===
Flossie ([[Inday Ba]]) carries an unknown pistol with a stainless steel finish in "Just A Target" (Episode 1.2).
[[File:UF 102 09.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Flossie drawn her pistol whilst forcing Jamie to zero the [[Accuracy_International_Arctic_Warfare_series#Accuracy_International_Arctic_Warfare_50|AW50F]].]]
[[File:UF 102 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Flossie threatens Lorraine with the pistol.]]
[[File:UF 102 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Flossie observes their target through the shades.]]

===Walther PPK===
[[Walther PPK]]s are used on multiple occasions by Red Troop as backup weapons or for covert missions.
[[File:WaltherPPK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther PPK - 9mm Kurz aka 9x17mm (.380 ACP)]]
[[File:UF 104 12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) carries a suppressed PPK whilst backing up Caroline in "Breakout" (Episode 1.4).]]
[[File:UF 104 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno surrenders his PPK]]
[[File:UF 105 36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete ([[Tony Curran]]) hands Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) a PPK to use as a backup weapon in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5).]]
[[File:UF 106 26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) hides a PPK in her crotch in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6).]]
[[File:UF 106 57.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) later uses the same PPK whilst capturing Glasnovic ([[Andreas Wisniewski]]).]]

==Submachine Guns==
===Heckler & Koch MP5A3===
The standard-issue weapons for the SAS unit Red Troop in the TV show are [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] submachine guns, which are always seen with Surefire fore ends and tactical flashlights as well as the SEF-style lower receiver. These weapons are typically used in Red Troop's domestic hostage rescue missions.
The other SAS unit, Blue Troop, also use identical weapons, as do many Metropolitan Police SO19 (now CO19) officers throughout the show.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9mm]]
[[File:UF 101 12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) and Alex ([[Sendhil Ramamurthy]]) are issued their H&K MP5A3s along with 6 magazines apiece when they first join Red troop in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1). This is the only time when Red troop MP5s are shown with their original slimline forearms, as opposed to the Surefire fore ends which can be seen separately to the right of the weapon.]]
[[File:UF 101 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 101 29.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An SO19 officer covers the bank with his MP5 in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1). Unlike the SAS in the show who always use the iron sights on their MP5s, this particular police weapon is fitted with what appears to be a low powered scope.]]
[[File:UF 101 36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 101 39.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 104 31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 104 33.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 104 36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie holds fire whilst Alex negligently fires his MP5 in "Breakout" (Episode 1.4). Note the red tape on the bottom of the magazines. It appears that in the show the tape is used to identify the unit, with Blue Troop having blue tape on their magazines,]]
[[File:UF 104 37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 104 38.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5A2===
The solid stocked version of the MP5, the [[Heckler_%26_Koch_MP5#Heckler_.26_Koch_MP5A2|MP5A2]], is much rarer than its collapsible stocked brother and is only seen in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5) being carried by the RUC.
[[File:MP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 - 9x19mm with early "slimline" handguard]]
[[File:UF 105 32.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A pair of RUC officers with MP5A2s at the abduction site. The MP5 on the left is fitted with a wide tropical forearm, whilst the one on the right is fitted with an original slimline forearm.]]
[[File:UF 105 38.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Some of the officers guarding the vehicle checkpoint can also be seen with MP5A2s]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5KA1===
Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) uses a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5KA1]] in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5). It can be recognised as the KA1 version by its lack of front sight post and diopter rear sight. Instead this version is fitted with low profile pistol type sights to prevent snagging when being drawn from confined spaces or beneath clothes. In real life this version of the MP5K has been used by the British SAS. MP5Ks were also commonly used by members of "The Det" (14 Intelligence Company) as a counter ambush weapon in their vehicles, so as a former member of that unit Caroline would be very familiar with their use.
[[File:MP5KA1.jpg|thumb|401px|none|Heckler & Koch MP5KA1 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 105 17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline draws her MP5KA1 from beneath her seat, where it was stored with the selector set to full auto.]]
[[File:UF 105 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline aims her MP5KA1 at the IRA terrorists through the smashed windscreen of their car.]]
[[File:UF 105 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline firing her MP5KA1 gangster style. However, in this case it is justified as she is blind firing from behind cover and this is the only position she could fire safely in.]]

==Assault Rifles==
===AK-47===
One of the IRA members in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5) carries what appears to be an original [[AK-47]]. It is possible that this weapon in deactivated, or a non firing replica, as for shooting scenes it changes to a [[Zastava M70|Zastava M70B1]].
[[File:Ak 54.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Type III AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 105 34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the terrorists takes the AK-47 from the body of another. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[File:UF 105 39.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sean Weir ([[Damian O'Hare]]) later carries the AK-47.]]
[[File:UF 105 42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sean cradles the AK-47 as he guards Jamie.]]

===AKMS===
[[AKMS|AKMS's]] are another weapon that is occasionally used by terrorists.

[[File:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 106 44.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete ([[Tony Curran]]) assembles his AKMS during a range practice session in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6).]]
[[File:UF 106 49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 106 51.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete aiming his AKMS. This particular weapon is a somewhat Franken-gun, having the stamped receiver, front sight and muzzle brake from an AKMS, but the furniture and perforated gas tube from an AKS-47]]

===Colt AR-15 Sporter-1===
[[CAR-15#Colt_AR-15_Sporter-1|Colt AR-15 Sporter 1s]] are seen frequently on the show in the hands of Red troop as a stand in for M16s. They can be recognised as Sporter-1s by their screw type pivot rather than push pin pivot, which is visible in some shots.
[[File:M16-SP1-30Mag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt AR-15 Sporter-1 (SP1) - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 106 32.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 106 42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Johnny Bell ([[Chris Ryan]]) uses an SP1 fitted with a [[Cobray CM203]] in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6). Here he is displaying rather poor trigger discipline, particularly as he is showing how his hand is shaking uncontrollably from the adrenaline.]]
[[File:UF 106 54.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Johnny Bell takes out a machine gun crew with his SP1.]]

===Colt AR-15 Sporter-II Carbine===
Lt. Dotsy Doheny ([[Jamie Bamber]]) used a [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_AR-15_Sporter_Carbine|Colt AR-15 Sporter-II Carbine (Model R6420)]] with a solid stock and three prong flash hider in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6).
[[File:AR15 Sporter carbine solid.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Sporter-II Carbine with solid stock (photo-shopped image) - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 106 64.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dotsy shouting orders whilst carrying his modified Sporter Carbine.]]
[[File:UFColtARa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Colt CAR-15===
[[CAR-15]]s are a common weapon used by Red troop, and can be seen used by multiple characters in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6). These CAR-15s are most likely either mock-ups or commercial copies, as the flash hiders are too long for E1 rifles, but lack the grenade ring found on later E2 rifles.
[[File:CAR-15Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Commercial CAR-15 semiautomatic Rifle - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:UF 106 13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Johnny Bell ([[Chris Ryan]]) can be seen prepping a CAR-15 whilst the team are planning the mission.]]
[[File:UF 106 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The UN Peacekeepers are all armed with CAR-15s fitted with gooseneck rails and telescopic sights.]]
[[File:UF 106 60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) can be seen using a CAR-15 at the end of the episode.]]

===Colt M16A1 (with M16A2 hand guards)===
Red troop make use of [[M16A1]]s fitted with A2 type handguards on several occasions for oversees missions where more range is required.
[[File:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 106 30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alex ([[Sendhil Ramamurthy]]) loads his M16A1 prior to the attack in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6). It can be recognised as an A1 rather than an A2 by its simpler rear sights and lack of a brass deflector.]]
[[File:UF 106 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alex awaits the order to move in with his M16A1 at the ready, backed up by Johnny Bell ([[Chris Ryan]]) with his SP1 (just visible in this shot is the screw type pivot of the Sporter model).]]

===Colt M16A2===
Genuine [[M16A2]]s are also used by Red Troop, alongside the mock A2s based on [[M16A1]]s listed above
[[File:M16A2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 106 06.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Mick Sharp ([[Laurence Fox]]) returns from a recce with his M16A2, as identified by its rear sight.]]
[[File:UF 106 65.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another view of his M16A2, showing that it has the correct brass deflector of a true M16A2.]]

===Colt Model 733===
Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) can briefly be seen using a [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|Colt Model 733]] in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6) whilst covering the team's extraction towards the end of the episode. This particular M733 is built using an A2 style upper.
[[File:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Model 733 - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:UF 106 03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie can be seen using the M733 near the beginning of the episode whilst constructing an OP. It is covered with camouflage scrim, but can be identified as an M733 by the length of barrel in front of the front sight post.]]
[[File:UF 106 68.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie with his M733, which he recovered from the team's truck after breaking cover.]]
[[File:UF 106 69.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Heckler & Koch HK33A3===
[[Heckler & Koch HK33|Heckler & Koch HK33A3s]],are used by several members of Red Troop in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5), where they are used as sniper rifles. At the end of the episode Pete ([[Tony Curran]]) again uses an HK33, but without the telescopic sight, whilst covering the outside of the building during the assault on the IRA safe-house.
[[Image:HK93FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33A3 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 105 03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete in an OP with his HK33.]]
[[File:UF 105 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 105 08.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) moves into position with his HK33.]]
[[File:UF 105 60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Heckler & Koch HK53===
In "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5) several members of Red Troop can briefly be seen with [[HK53]]s when they rescue Jamie at the end of the episode. In real life these weapons were frequently used by both the SAS and "The Det" (14 Intelligence Company) in Northern Ireland due to their combination of concealability and firepower. These are possibly early versions of the HK53 or mock ups, as the weapons shown in the episode use slimline fore grips and SEF lower receivers, as well as different flash hiders to the regular HK53.
[[File:H&KHK53-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK53 - 5.56mm]]
[[File:UF 105 35.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Johnny Bell ([[Chris Ryan]]) can be seen with an HK53 whilst guarding Bill Gracey. Just visible in this shot are the finger grooves indicating that this weapon uses a SEF lower receiver.]]
[[File:UF 105 54.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) peers round a corner with his HK53. Note the long 40 round magazine]]
[[File:UF 105 55.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem, Alex ([[Sendhil Ramamurthy]]) and Ricky ([[Danny Sapani]]) all use HK53s whilst assaulting the IRA safe house.]]
[[File:UF 105 56.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closer shot of Ricky's HK53.]]

===IMI Romat===
Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) can be seen inspecting a [[IMI Romat]] in the militias armoury in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6). It appears to be fitted with the flash hider from an [[FN LAR]].
[[File:UF 106 22.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno aiming the Romat]]
[[File:UF 106 25.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno checks the Romat is clear, showing its distinctive tubular wooden handguard.]]

===L85A1===
Regular British forces throughout the show are seen wielding [[Enfield L85 rifle series#L85A1|L85A1]] service rifles. They are never operationally carried by Red Troop, like their real life SAS counterparts, however they are used for ceremonial purposes. Since ''Ultimate Force'' was filmed after 2000 the use of L85A1s is anachronistic, having been replaced by the [[Enfield L85 rifle series#L85A2|L85A2]] variant by Heckler & Koch.
[[Image:L85A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|L85A1 5.56x45mm with SUSAT scope]]
[[File:UF 101 44.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Ministry of Defence Police who guard the army base at Hereford carry L85A1s. This was the main weapon used by the MOD police until 2005, when it was phased out in favour of the [[Heckler & Koch MP7]].]]
[[File:UF 102 05.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An honour guard of SAS troopers fire their L85A1s in salute during a funeral in "Just a Target" (Episode 1.2).]]

===Norinco Type 56-1===
[[Norinco_Type_56-1#Norinco_Type_56|Norinco Type 56-1s]] are a common terrorist weapon on the show.
[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 101 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 103 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete ([[Tony Curran]]) and Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) can both be seen with Norincos in "Natural Selection" (Episode 1.3).]]
[[File:UF 105 20.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the IRA terrorists in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5) uses what appears to be a Norinco Type 56-1, although it is never clearly shown. It seems to have the hooded front sight of a Type 56 variant, though.]]
[[File:UF 106 09.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 106 36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A number of the terrorists in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1,6) carry Norincos, as recognised by the hooded front sight.]]
[[File:UF 106 39.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 106 61.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Valmet M62===
A modernized [[Valmet M62]] can be seen in the militia's armoury in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6), and is inspected by Pete ([[Tony Curran]]). This particular weapon is somewhat unusual, in that it does not have the standard iron sights of either an M62 or M76, as instead of the sights being located at the rear of the dust cover they are nearer the front and appear to be of a simpler design. The milled receiver and lack of external rivets confirms it to actually be an M62 instead of a [[Valmet M76]].
[[File:Rk 62 with m76 furniture.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Valmet M62 with plastic M76 handguard - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 106 17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete aims the M62. In this shot the lightening groove above the magazine of the milled receiver is visible. Also, take note of the unusual non-standard sights this particular weapon displays.]]
[[File:UF 106 25.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another M62 can be seen on the wall behind Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) whilst he is inspecting the [[IMI Romat]]. This weapon has the magazine inserted, confirming it to be chambered in 7.62x39mm rather than 5.56x45mm NATO.]]

===Zastava M70B1===
The majority of the fixed stock Kalashnikov variants in the show are [[Zastava M70|Zastava M70B1s]].
[[File:Zastava M70B1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Zastava M70B1 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 105 50.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 105 53.jpg|thumb|none|500px|During firing scenes, Sean Weir's ([[Damian O'Hare]]) AK-47 changes to a Zastava in "The Killing of a One-Eyed Bookie" (Episode 1.5).]]
[[File:UF 106 33.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Multiple Zastava M70B1s appear in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6) being used by the Serbians.]]
[[File:UF 106 38.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) prominently uses a Zastava whilst extolling the virtues of the AK-47 to a group of soldiers he is training. This can be identified as a Zastava rather than another AK variant by it folding grenade sight and the three rather than two ports in the handguard.]]
[[File:UF 106 50.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 106 66.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno aiming his Zastava.]]
[[File:UF 106 67.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Rifles==
===Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III*===
A pair of [[Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III*]]s are mounted on the wall of the bar at Hereford.
[[File:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British]]
[[File:UF 102 06.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Lee-Enfield can be seen mounted on the wall during the wake in "Just a Target" (Episode 1.2).]]
[[File:UF 102 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another Lee-Enfield can be seen mounted the other way round on the other side of the window.]]

==Sniper Rifles==
===Accuracy International Arctic Warfare ===
Whenever Red Troop requires sniper support, the snipers are typically armed with [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare]] rifles in 7.62x51mm NATO, with the majority of the main characters using one at one point or another. This rifle was used by the British army, under the designation of L118A1.
[[File:Accuracy International Arctic Warfare - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Accuracy International AW - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:UF 101 11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 104 08.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) aiming a camouflaged AI AW in "Breakout" (Episode 1.4).]]
[[File:UF 104 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 105 06.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Accuracy International AW50F===
In "Just a Target" (Episode 1.2) Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) uses an [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series#AW50 / AW50F|AW50F]] long-range rifle while operating undercover within a terrorist group.
[[Image:AW50F.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Accuracy International AW50F - .50 BMG]]
[[File:UF 102 13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Simon ([[Jamie Sives]]) loads a round into the AW50F. Throughout the episode the weapon is loaded with single rounds directly into the chamber, rather than using the magazine.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-17115.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie prepares to fire the AW50F in order to zero it.]]
[[File:UF 102 16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|When the weapon is fired there is no visible recoil, and a ridiculously large and bright CG muzzle flash is added.]]
[[File:UF 102 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie takes up position behind the weapon.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-19374.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie refusing to take the shot.]]

===Unknown Heckler & Koch G3 Sniper Variant===
A police SO19 sniper in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1) can be seen using an unknown [[Heckler & Koch G3]] based sniper rifle. Better shots of this rifle can be seen on the [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_3|Season 3]] page where it is again used by SO19 snipers, and on the [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_4|Season 4]] page where the same rifle is carried by a US special forces sniper. The rifle which it most resembles is a [[Heckler_%26_Koch_G3#Heckler_.26_Koch_G3SG.2F1|Heckler & Koch G3SG/1 ]], however it has several differences: the rifle has a conventional trigger pack (lacks the secondary setting trigger), a skeletonised extended butt plate, a larger cheek riser, no iron sights and what appears to be a thicker and longer barrel without a flash hider. Due to the rarity of G3SG/1s, it is more likely that this rifle is a regular G3A3 which has had a number of modifications and after-market parts added.
[[File:UF 101 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The police sniper laying prone at the bottom of the frame is armed with the rifle in question.]]

==Machine Guns==
===FN Minimi===
Red Troop is frequently seen using the [[FN Minimi]] for support during missions overseas.
[[File:M249Minimi1stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Minimi 5.56mm with 200-round ammo drum.]]
[[File:UF 106 18.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 106 20.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) checks an FN Minimi that was in the armoury of the Serbian militia in "Something to Do with Justice". Apparently this weapon was taken from the UN troops when they abandoned a base.]]

===Maxim M1910/30===
The Serbian rebels in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6) have a [[Maxim#Maxim_M1910.2F30|Maxim M1910/30]] mounted behind sand bags for perimeter defence.
[[File:Maxim M1910 30.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim 1910/30 - 7.62x54R.]]
[[File:UF 106 10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie observing the Maxim through a periscope in his OP.]]
[[File:UF 106 45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A pair of soldiers playing a card game on top of the Maxim. In this shot the circular trap door is visible on the top of the water jacket, which identifies this as a M1910/30 rather than the earlier M1910 model.]]
[[File:UF 106 53.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The soldiers manning the Maxim are distracted by the impact of a LAW.]]

==Shotguns==
===Remington 870 Police Folder===
The [[Remington_870#Remington_870_Folding_Stock|Remington 870 Police Folder]] with extended magazine tube is the standard shotgun used by the SAS throughout the series, and can be seen on several occasions during counter terrorist deployments. However, it is never used as a weapon but is instead used for the sole purpose of breaching doors.
[[File:Remington870LONGFolder.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Folder with extended magazine tube - 12 gauge]]
[[File:UF 101 01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 101 16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 101 35.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) can be seen with a Remington 870 during the briefing in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1).]]
[[File:UF 101 37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A member of Red Troop (presumably Jem) aims at the hinges of a door.]]
[[File:UF 101 38.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the shotgun being fired at the hinge.]]

===Double Barrel Shotgun===
Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) can briefly be seen with a full length [[Side by Side Shotgun]] in "Just a Target" (Episode 1.2)
[[File:BaikalSBSShotgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Baikal hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]
[[File:UF 102 08.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline descends the stairs with her shotgun whilst answering the door in the middle of the night.]]

===Mossberg 500 Cruiser===
One of the bank robbers in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1) uses what appears to be a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]]. It appears as if the last couple of inches of the barrel have been sawed off.
[[File:Mossberg500Cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser - 12 gauge]]
[[File:UF 101 08.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Lofty" ([[Francis Magee]]) receivers the Mossberg from "Boss" ([[Tom Georgeson]]).]]
[[File:UF 101 30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Lofty" reads a pamphlet whilst cradling his Mossberg.]]

===Sawed Off Side be Side Shotgun===
[[12_Gauge_Double_Barreled_Shotgun#Short_barreled_Side_by_Side_Shotgun_.28Sawed_Off.29|Sawed off shotguns]] are seen numerous times throughout the series being used by terrorists.
[[File:Remington SBS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington Spartan Sawed Off shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[File:UF 101 09.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 101 18.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the bank robbers, Pug ([[Robert Willox]]), in "The Killing House" (Episode 1.1) is armed with a sawed off shotgun, which here he is using the butt of to smash mobile phones.]]
[[File:UF 103 08.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Billy Critchley ([[Alex Palmer]]) prominently uses a sawed off shotgun in "Natural Selection" (Episode 1.3).]]
[[File:UF 103 09.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 103 11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The shotgun in question is a model with an auto safety, requiring the safety to be deactivated after reloading before it can be fires again.]]
[[File:UF 103 12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) with the shotgun after disarming Critchley.]]

==Heavy Weapons==
===Cobray CM203===
Red Troop's M16s and CAR-15s are often fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] 37mm flare launchers to stand in for 40mm [[M203]] grenade launchers.
[[Image:M16A1wNewCM203.jpg|thumb|none|362px|M16A1 with Cobray CM203 launcher - 37mm]]
[[File:UF 106 29.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Johnny Bell ([[Chris Ryan]]) prepares his AR15 SP1 fitted with a Cobray in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6). From this angle it can be identified as a Cobray by the fully enclosed trigger guard with a squared off back, as opposed to the M203 trigger guard which connects onto the bottom of the rifle's magazine well.]]
[[File:UF 106 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another angles on the same rifle, showing the side mounted cocking handle of the CM203- another unique feature to the Cobray as opposed to the featureless sides of the M203. This particular Cobray is mounted with an overly large adapter which places the launcher lower down than a true M203.]]

===M72 LAW===
Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) uses an [[M72 LAW]] to destroy a guard house and create a distraction during the attack in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6).
[[File:M72lawopen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW - 66mm]]
[[File:UF 106 27.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 106 46.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jew extends the tube of his LAW as he exists the cab of a truck.]]
[[File:UF 106 47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem prepares to fire his LAW.]]

===Bofors L/60 40mm AA Cannon===
A [[Bofors 40mm|Bofors L/60]] 40mm AA gun can be seen mounted on a trailer at the UN camp at the end of "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6).
[[File:Bofors 40mm trailer.jpg|thumb|none|400px|US Army Bofors L/60 fitted to wheeled trailer - 40×311mmR]]
[[File:UF 106 70.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The cannon can be seen from the back of the ambulance as it drives away.]]
[[File:UF 106 71.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A wider view of the cannon.]]

== Other Seasons ==
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_2|Season 2]]
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_3|Season 3]]
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_4|Season 4]]
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{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Ultimate Force - Season 2
|picture = UFSeries2.jpg
|country = [[Image:UKD.jpg|25px]] GBR
|channel = ITV
|creator = Rob Heyland [[Chris Ryan]]
|genre = Action War
|dates = June 18th, 2003 - July 23rd, 2003
|episodes = 6
|character1=SSgt. Henry 'Henno' Garvie
|actor1=[[Ross Kemp]]
|character2=Cpl.Jamie Dow
|actor2=[[Jamie Draven]]
|character3 =Sgt. Pete Twamley
|actor3=[[Tony Curran]]
|character4=Cpl. Ricky Mann
|actor4=[[Danny Sapani]]
|character5=Cpl. Louis Hoffman
|actor5=[[Christopher Fox]]
|character7=Cpt. Ian Macalwain
|actor7=[[Richard Armitage]]
|character8=Cpt. Caroline Walshe
|actor8=[[Alex Reid]]
|character9=Col. Aidan Dempsey
|actor9=[[Miles Anderson]]
|character10=Pru Banks
|actor10=[[Lucy Akhurst]]
}}
'''The following weapons were used in the second season of the television series ''Ultimate Force'':'''
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==Handguns==

===SIG-Sauer P226===
The [[Sig Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]] is the preferred sidearm of Red Troop and is used throughout the series. It is frequently seen holstered whenever the team are wearing their counter terrorist gear, but is normally only used for undercover work.
[[Image:SigP226.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P226 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 20.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) is armed with a P226 when he first boards the boat in "Communication" (Episode 2.1). This is in fact a continuity error, as after this point the gun changes to a [[SIG-Sauer P225|P225]].]]
[[File:UF 201 51.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 57.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 203 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 205 11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie uses a P226 fitted with a suppressor to snatch a cult member in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5).]]
[[File:UF 205 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Louis ([[Christopher Fox]]) aims his P226 from the rear foot-well of a jeep whilst abducting Mick Mo in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]

===SIG-Sauer P225===
Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) can be seen using [[SIG-Sauer P225]] as his sidearm in several episodes, even though this pistol is a dated design with a smaller magazine capacity than the P226s and P228s which Red Troop usually uses on the show. The use of this pistol in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) is rife with continuity errors. Firstly, Jamie can be seen holding the pistol below decks on the boat when earlier he was using a larger [[SIG-Sauer P226|P226]] whilst climbing aboard. Secondly, Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) draws a P225 from his holster and clears it at the end of the episode, despite the fact that he was previously using the similar, but more modern, [[SIG-Sauer P228|P228]].

[[File:SIG-Sauer-P225.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P225 - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:UF 201 29.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie uses a P225 whilst moving around the lower deck of the ship.]]
[[File:UF 201 62.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno unloads a P225 at the end of the episode. This can be differentiated from the P228 he was using early by the horned trigger guard.]]
[[File:UF 203 5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie again uses a P225 in "Wannabes" (Episode 2.3) whilst threatening Suzi Brown ([[Flora Montgomery]])]]
[[File:UF 203 7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closer shot of the back of Jamie's pistol, showing that it has the single stack frame of the P225.]]

===SIG-Sauer P228===
In some episodes, the smaller [[Sig Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P228|SIG-Sauer P228]] are used by Red Troop.
[[Image:Sig-Sauer-P228.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P228 9mm]]
[[File:UF 201 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) can be seen with a P228 whilst hiding below decks in "Communication" (Episode 2.1). In a continuity error, this pistol later changes to a [[SIG-Sauer P225|P225]].]]
[[File:UF 202 3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno and Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) can both be seen using P228s at the shooting range in "Mad Dogs" (Episode 2.2). Ricky ([[Danny Sapani]]) is also using a pistol at the range, however he is armed with a [[SIG-Sauer P226|P226]], as referenced by its longer barrel and horned trigger guard.]]

===Beretta 92===
In "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) one of the rebels, uses what appears to be an original [[Beretta_92_pistol_series#Beretta_92|Beretta 92]] during a mock execution and a ransom video. This particular gun features plain grip panels, and a stepped slide (it narrows in thickness just ahead of the chamber) indicating that it is one of the first 1000 or so pistols made before the design was changed to the familiar profile.
[[File:Beretta 92 early stepped slide.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92, early model with unbranded grip panels and stepped slide - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 206 09.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The lack of safety on the right side of the frame indicates that this is an original Beretta 92. Also visible in this shot is the "step" on the side of the slide where it narrows just past the chamber.]]
[[File:UF 206 22.jpg|thumb|none|500px|During the ransom video it is just possible to see frame mounted safety, as well as the butt mounted magazine release confirming this is a Beretta 92, as opposed to a very early [[Taurus PT92]].]]

===Beretta 92FS===
In "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) one of the rebels can briefly be seen with a [[Beretta 92FS]]. This is not the [[Beretta 92]] seen being used at other points in the episode, as noted by the finger step on the trigger guard.
[[File:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 206 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===CZ 75B===
One of the rebels in "Dead is Forever" uses a [[CZ 75|CZ 75B]] during a mock execution. The weapon misfires, prompting the user to say "Damn these cheep Czechoslovakian weapons."
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg|thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 206 08.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The rebel aims at blindfolded Dempsey ([[Miles Anderson]]) with his CZ 75B.]]

===Heckler & Koch USP===
[[Heckler & Koch USP]] pistols are seen in some episodes, usually in the hands of the antagonists.
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch USP 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|USPs feature prominently in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) where they are used by the French special forces. In this picture, the leader of the French soldiers, LeMaison ([[François Guétary]]), re-holsters his USP after shooting the terrorist leader.]]
[[File:UF 201 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lacompte ([[Pascal Langdale]]) aiming his USP as the French seize the ship.]]
[[File:UF 201 31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|LeMaison aiming his USP at the innocent captain as he forces him to continue to England.]]
[[File:UF 201 58.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mick Mo ([[Dorian Healy]]) uses a USP as he abducts Dempsey ([[Miles Anderson]]) and Nicky Strong ([[Emily Joyce]]) in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]
[[File:UF 206 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Louis ([[Christopher Fox]]) checks his USP is loaded as they approach a checkpoint. This is a continuity error, as he was previously seen with a [[SIG-Sauer P226]], although it is possible this is the weapon he confiscated from Mick Mo, although why he would be using it instead of his own pistol is unclear.]]

===Smith & Wesson Model 60===
Several of the terrorists on the boat in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) can be seen using [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] snub nose revolvers.
[[File:Classic60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 60 - .38 Special]]
[[File:UF 201 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the terrorists firing his revolver at one of the ship's crew.]]
[[File:UF 201 12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another terrorists draws a gun in the mess hall, before being shot by the French special forces.]]

===Smith & Wesson Model 686===
The cult leader Omega ([[Conor Mullen]]) in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) carries a [[Smith & Wesson Model 686]] with a 4" barrel.
[[File:S&WModel686.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 686 4" Barrel - .357 Magnum.]]
[[File:UF 205 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Omega aiming his 686 at a police car at the start of the episode.]]
[[File:UF 205 31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Omega firing his 686 at Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]).]]

===Walther P99===
A [[Walther P99]] can briefly be seen in "The List" (Episode 2.4) as the pistol being used by the sleeper assassin Levi ([[Simon Gregor]]).
[[File:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther P99 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 204 4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The P99 can be seen laying on the seat, along with his target instructions. From the proprietary accessory rail visible in this shot, along with the fact that this episode was shot in 2003, this pistol is an original pre-2004 model as opposed to the "Quick Action".]]

==Submachine Guns==
===Heckler & Koch MP5A3===
The standard-issue weapons for the SAS unit Red Troop in the TV show are [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] submachine guns, which are always seen with Surefire fore ends and tactical flashlights as well as the SEF-style lower receiver. These weapons are typically used in Red Troop's domestic hostage rescue missions.
The other SAS unit, Blue Troop, also use identical weapons, as do many Metropolitan Police SO19 (now CO19) officers throughout the show.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 23.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) sneaking across the upper deck of the ship with his MP5A3 in "Communication" (Episode 2.1).]]
[[File:UF 201 48.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 52.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 56.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Louis ([[Christopher Fox]]) provides cover for a wounded Dotsy ([[Jamie Bamber]]), both of whom are armed with MP5A3s.]]
[[File:UF 204 7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Mossad agent Ben Yager ([[Stephen Noonan ]]) uses an MP5A3 fitted with a telescopic sight and suppressor in "The List" (Episode 2.4).]]
[[File:Vlcsnap-2011-03-24-12h33m05s30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Unlike the majority of the assault team in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) carries a regular MP5A3, as her weapon is purely for self defence.]]
[[File:UF 205 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126438.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Capt. Ian Macalwain ([[Richard Armitage]]) with his MP5A3 during the assault on the cult compound in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5).]]
[[File:UF 205 32.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5KA1===
[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5KA1]] submachine guns are used by a number of the French special forces soldiers in "Communication" (Episode 2.1). The MP5KA1 is a version of the original MP5K designed for concealed carry (it lacks the H&K dioptre sights in order to avoid getting snagged on clothing when being drawn quickly from beneath a jacket).
[[File:MP5KA1.jpg|thumb|401px|none|Heckler & Koch MP5KA1 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 35.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A French soldier walks onto deck with a MP5KA1, which starts the fire-fight.]]
[[File:UF 201 40.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) shoots an MP5KA1 armed terrorist with his [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3|MP5A3]].]]
[[File:UF 201 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another French soldier with an MP5KA1. Note the lack of the hooded front sight indicating this is the A1 variant.]]
[[File:UF 201 59.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) surveys the damage after the fire-fight. An MP5KA1 can be seen at his feet in the hands of a dead soldier.]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5SD3===
Red Troop also makes use of the suppressed [[MP5# Heckler & Koch MP5SD|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3]] in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) when Red Troop invades the stronghold of a Christian cult terrorist group to capture their leader.
[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 9mm]]
[[File:UF 205 13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A number of SAS soldiers move into position around the building with their MP5SD3s.]]
[[File:UF 205 17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SAS soldiers entering the house]]
[[File:UF 205 19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) hides around a corner with his MP5SD3.]]
[[File:UF 205 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A side view of Jamie's MP5SD3.]]

===IMI Uzi===
Several of the French special forces soldiers in "Communications" (Episode 2.1) are armed with [[IMI Uzi]]s.
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 25.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the French soldiers enters the bunk room with his Uzi.]]
[[File:UF 201 27.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A view of the Uzi after the soldier puts it on the table. Note the two magazine couple together, which would make the gun somewhat uncomfortable to hold.]]
[[File:UF 201 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The soldier in the rear is armed with an Uzi.]]
[[File:UF 202 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The terrorist targets on the shooting range at Hereford are armed with Uzis in "Mad Dogs" (Episode 2.2).]]

===IMI Mini Uzi===
The [[Uzi#Mini Uzi|IMI Mini Uzi]] machine pistol appears in several episodes being used by the bad guys..
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 39.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the French soldiers in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) gets shot in the head whilst aiming his Mini Uzi. Note the device attached to the butt stock of the weapon which creates the blood splatter from the bullet hit, which is visible as he falls to the side.]]
[[File:UF 201 54.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another French soldier carries a Mini Uzi with a laser sight clamped under the barrel.]]
[[File:UF 204 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A motorcycle gunman fires a Mini Uzi in "The List" (Episode 2.4).]]
[[File:UF 204 3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===PPSh-41===
A [[PPSh-41]] can be seen briefly in the hands of one of the Georgian soldiers in Episode 2.6, "Dead is Forever".
[[File:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Soviet PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[File:UF 206 14.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The waving soldier on the right is armed with a PPSh-41.]]
[[File:UF 206 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A front view of the PPSh-41, showing that it is fitted with a drum magazine.]]
[[File:UF 206 16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The crouching soldier is holding a PPSh-41.]]

==Assault Rifles==
===AKM===
[[AKM]]s are a common weapon used by terrorists on the show.
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AKM - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 205 05.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Several AKMs are used by the cult members in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5). This particular rifle is fitted with a telescopic sight.]]
[[File:UF 206 72.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AKMs are one of the weapons used by the rebels in "Death is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]
[[File:UF 206 74.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''SPOILER''': Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) uses an AKM, taken from the dead body of the rebel pictured above, when he kills Capt. Ian Macalwain ([[Richard Armitage]]).]]

===AKS-74U===
One of the French special forces soldiers can be briefly seen with an [[AKS-74U]] in "Communication" (Episode 2.1).
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[File:UF 201 30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the soldiers can be seen picking up the rifle from an armoury when the dead body of one of the soldiers is discovered. It is possible that this weapon was supposed to belong to the terrorists who were previously in control of the ship, as all other weapons used by the French soldiers are "Western".]]

===Colt AR-15 Sporter-1===
[[CAR-15#Colt_AR-15_Sporter-1|Colt AR-15 Sporter-1s]] are seen frequently on the show in the hands of Red troop as a stand in for M16s. They can be recognised as Sporter-1s by their screw type pivot rather than push pin pivot, which is visible in some shots. The rifle is particular prevalent in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) where it is the source of continuity errors where Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) and Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) switch between using SP1s and [[M16A2]]s throughout the episode.
[[File:M16-SP1-30Mag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt AR-15 Sporter-1 (SP1) - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 206 06.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) looking through the British CWS night sight of his SP1, also fitted with a [[Cobray CM203]]. Although it looks like he has the lens cap in place so wouldn't be able to see anything, the lens cap actually has a whole in the centre which restricts the light the sight lets in to allow it to function in daylight.]]
[[File:UF 206 46.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie's SP1 has quadrant sights fitted to the carry handle. Also visible in the bottom right of this shot is the large screw headed pivot pin which is indicative of the Colt Sporter-1 rifles.]]
[[File:UF 206 60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 64.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno attempts to clear a jam by cycling the charging handle, but you can see that the weapon jams again. This weapon is apparently in need of some serious cleaning.]]
[[File:UF 206 69.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie firing his SP1.]]

===Colt CAR-15===
[[CAR-15]]s are a common weapon used by Red troop, and can be seen used by multiple characters in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6). These CAR-15s are most likely either mock-ups or commercial copies, as the flash hiders are too long for E1 rifles, but lack the grenade ring found on later E2 rifles.
[[File:CAR-15Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Commercial CAR-15 semiautomatic Rifle - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:UF 206 30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) carries a CAR-15 while operating as Red Troop's radio operator in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6). During night scenes, it is fitted with some variety of image intensifier on the carry handle.]]

===Colt M16A1===
Some of the cult members in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) use unmodified [[M16A1]]s.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 205 20.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 205 23.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gabriel ([[Thomas Sangster]], best known for ''Love Actually'') fires an M16A1 with cold, unblinking dead eyes.]]
[[File:UF 205 26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Colt M16A1 (with M16A2 hand guards)===
Red troop make use of [[M16A1]]s fitted with A2 type handguards on several occasions for oversees missions where more range is required.
[[File:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 206 45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete ([[Tony Curran]]) carries an M16A1 with A2 handguards, as noted by its forward assist but no brass deflector, in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]
[[File:UF 206 56.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete takes cover with his M16 as he destroys a bunker with a grenade.]]

===Colt M16A2===
Genuine [[M16A2]]s are also used by Red Troop, alongside the mock A2s based on [[M16A1]]s listed above
[[File:M16A2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 206 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) checks over his M16A2 fitted with a [[Cobray CM203]] whilst packing for the mission in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6). Later this weapon changes to an SP1]]
[[File:UF 206 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) uses an M16A2 fitted with a [[Cobray CM203]] at some points in the episode, although this switches back and forth with an SP1.]]
[[File:UF 206 48.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lois ([[Christopher Fox]]) is also armed with an M16A2 with a [[Cobray CM203]].]]
[[File:UF 206 62.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Capt. Ian Macalwain ([[Richard Armitage]]) uses an unaccessorised M16A2.]]
[[File:UF 206 71.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno firing his M16A2. Note the muzzle flash pattern created by the A2 flash-hider.]]

===Heckler & Koch HK33A3===
Several of the French special forces soldiers in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) carry [[Heckler & Koch HK33]]s.
[[Image:HK93FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33A3 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 201 42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the French soldiers aiming his HK33 through the smoke created from a stun grenade.]]
[[File:UF 201 55.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another of the French soldiers fires down at Red Troop from the bridge of the ship.]]

===Norinco Type 56-1===
[[Norinco_Type_56-1#Norinco_Type_56|Norinco Type 56-1s]] are a common terrorist weapon on the show.
[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 205 25.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Omega ([[Conor Mullen]]) firing a Type 56 in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5).]]
[[File:UF 206 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 57.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dempsey ([[Miles Anderson]]) uses a Type 56 in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6), which he takes from a terrorist he kills.]]
[[File:UF 206 63.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Sniper Rifles==
===Accuracy International Arctic Warfare===
Whenever Red Troop requires sniper support, the snipers are typically armed with [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare]] rifles in 7.62x51mm NATO, with the majority of the main characters using one at one point or another. This rifle was used by the British army, under the designation of L118A1.
[[File:Accuracy International Arctic Warfare - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Accuracy International AW - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:UF 201 01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 33.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Corporal Ricky Mann ([[Danny Sapani]]) provides sniper support in "Communication" (Episode 2.1), despite the fact it has been established previously that Jamie and Jem are the best snipers in the team.]]
[[File:UF 203 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete ([[Tony Curran]]) uses an AI AW during the hostage situation at the end of "Wannabes" (Episode 2.3).]]
[[File:UF 203 6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Machine Guns==
===FN Minimi===
Red Troop is frequently seen using the [[FN Minimi]] for support during missions overseas.
[[File:M249Minimi1stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Minimi 5.56mm with 200-round ammo drum.]]
[[File:UF 206 49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ricky ([[Danny Sapani]]) demonstrates his bird calls with his Minimi laying next to him in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6). This weapon is fitted with a 200 round cloth ammo bag.]]
[[File:UF 206 51.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up shot of Ricky firing his Minimi. Note that the blanks are visible in this shot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-136363.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) later uses the Minimi to cover Red Troop as they attack the compound.]]
[[File:Alex Reid Minimi promo.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Promotional photo of Caroline with the Minimi.]]

===Browning M1919A4===
The rebels in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) use a [[Browning M1919A4]] fitted with a tripod on the roof of a bunker.
[[File:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Browning M1919A4 on M2 tripod - .30-06]]
[[File:UF 206 47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Red Troop observe the rebel defences. The M1919A4 is visible on the right.]]
[[File:UF 206 55.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The M1919A4 firing on Red Troop.]]

===L7 GPMG===
Being the standard machine gun of the British Army, the [[FN_MAG#L7_Machine_Gun|L7 GPMG]] is used on multiple occasions by the SAS on the show. It is also occasionally used by terrorists on the show.
[[Image:L7A2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|British L7A2 GPMG - 7.62x51mm]]
[[File:UF 201 19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A GPMG can briefly be seen in the background mounted an a Land Rover in "Communication" (Episode 2.1).]]
[[File:UF 205 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The cult in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) have a tripod mounted GPMG for perimeter defence. It is destroyed with a LAW before it can be used however.]]
[[File:UF 205 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===RPD===
An [[RPD]] can briefly be seen in the hands of a Georgian soldier in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).
[[File:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPD Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 206 12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The front waving soldier is armed with an RPD.]]

==Shotguns==
===Remington 870 Police Folder===
Some of the Metropolitan Police SO19 (now CO19) officers that appear at the end of "Communication" (Episode 2.1) carry what appears to be [[Remington_870#Remington_870_Folding_Stock|Remington 870 Police Folders]] with extended magazine tubes.
[[File:Remington870LONGFolder.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Folder with extended magazine tube - 12 gauge]]
[[File:UF 201 60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The officers on the far right and far left appear to be armed with 870s. Although they are never clearly shown, they are pump action shotguns with full length magazine tubes and top folding stocks, and it would make sense that the armourers from the show would use existing guns from their inventory.]]

==Heavy Weapons==
===Cobray CM203===
Red Troop's M16s and CAR-15s are often fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] 37mm flare launchers to stand in for 40mm [[M203]] grenade launchers.
[[Image:M16A1wNewCM203.jpg|thumb|none|362px|M16A1 with Cobray CM203 launcher - 37mm]]
[[File:UF 206 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie checking over his [[M16A2]] fitted with a Cobray before the mission in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]

===M72 LAW===
Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) uses an [[M72 LAW]] to destroy a machine gun nest in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5).
[[File:M72lawopen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW - 66mm]]
[[File:UF 205 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno firing the LAW.]]

===RPG===
One of the Rebels in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) can be seen carrying an [[RPG-7]].
[[File:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:UF 206 11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The truck that passes Jamie and Caroline carries a squad of soldiers, one of whom is armed with and RPG-7.]]

== Other Seasons ==
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_1|Season 1]]
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_3|Season 3]]
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_4|Season 4]]
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[[Category:War]]
[[Category:British Produced/Filmed]]

Ultimate Force - Season 2

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{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Ultimate Force - Season 2
|picture = UFSeries2.jpg
|country = [[Image:UKD.jpg|25px]] GBR
|channel = ITV
|creator = Rob Heyland [[Chris Ryan]]
|genre = Action War
|dates = June 18th, 2003 - July 23rd, 2003
|episodes = 6
|character1=SSgt. Henry 'Henno' Garvie
|actor1=[[Ross Kemp]]
|character2=Cpl.Jamie Dow
|actor2=[[Jamie Draven]]
|character3 =Sgt. Pete Twamley
|actor3=[[Tony Curran]]
|character4=Cpl. Ricky Mann
|actor4=[[Danny Sapani]]
|character5=Cpl. Louis Hoffman
|actor5=[[Christopher Fox]]
|character7=Cpt. Ian Macalwain
|actor7=[[Richard Armitage]]
|character8=Cpt. Caroline Walshe
|actor8=[[Alex Reid]]
|character9=Col. Aidan Dempsey
|actor9=[[Miles Anderson]]
|character10=Pru Banks
|actor10=[[Lucy Akhurst]]
}}
'''The following weapons were used in the second season of the television series ''Ultimate Force'':'''
__TOC__ 
==Handguns==

===SIG-Sauer P226===
The [[Sig Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]] is the preferred sidearm of Red Troop and is used throughout the series. It is frequently seen holstered whenever the team are wearing their counter terrorist gear, but is normally only used for undercover work.
[[Image:SigP226.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P226 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 20.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) is armed with a P226 when he first boards the boat in "Communication" (Episode 2.1). This is in fact a continuity error, as after this point the gun changes to a [[SIG-Sauer P225|P225]].]]
[[File:UF 201 51.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 57.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 203 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 205 11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie uses a P226 fitted with a suppressor to snatch a cult member in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5).]]
[[File:UF 205 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Louis ([[Christopher Fox]]) aims his P226 from the rear foot-well of a jeep whilst abducting Mick Mo in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]

===SIG-Sauer P225===
Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) can be seen using [[SIG-Sauer P225]] as his sidearm in several episodes, even though this pistol is a dated design with a smaller magazine capacity than the P226s and P228s which Red Troop usually uses on the show. The use of this pistol in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) is rife with continuity errors. Firstly, Jamie can be seen holding the pistol below decks on the boat when earlier he was using a larger [[SIG-Sauer P226|P226]] whilst climbing aboard. Secondly, Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) draws a P225 from his holster and clears it at the end of the episode, despite the fact that he was previously using the similar, but more modern, [[SIG-Sauer P228|P228]].

[[File:SIG-Sauer-P225.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P225 - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:UF 201 29.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie uses a P225 whilst moving around the lower deck of the ship.]]
[[File:UF 201 62.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno unloads a P225 at the end of the episode. This can be differentiated from the P228 he was using early by the horned trigger guard.]]
[[File:UF 203 5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie again uses a P225 in "Wannabes" (Episode 2.3) whilst threatening Suzi Brown ([[Flora Montgomery]])]]
[[File:UF 203 7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closer shot of the back of Jamie's pistol, showing that it has the single stack frame of the P225.]]

===SIG-Sauer P228===
In some episodes, the smaller [[Sig Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P228|SIG-Sauer P228]] are used by Red Troop.
[[Image:Sig-Sauer-P228.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P228 9mm]]
[[File:UF 201 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) can be seen with a P228 whilst hiding below decks in "Communication" (Episode 2.1). In a continuity error, this pistol later changes to a [[SIG-Sauer P225|P225]].]]
[[File:UF 202 3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno and Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) can both be seen using P228s at the shooting range in "Mad Dogs" (Episode 2.2). Ricky ([[Danny Sapani]]) is also using a pistol at the range, however he is armed with a [[SIG-Sauer P226|P226]], as referenced by its longer barrel and horned trigger guard.]]

===Beretta 92===
In "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) one of the rebels, uses what appears to be an original [[Beretta_92_pistol_series#Beretta_92|Beretta 92]] during a mock execution and a ransom video. This particular gun features plain grip panels, and a stepped slide (it narrows in thickness just ahead of the chamber) indicating that it is one of the first 1000 or so pistols made before the design was changed to the familiar profile.
[[File:Beretta 92 early stepped slide.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92, early model with unbranded grip panels and stepped slide - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 206 09.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The lack of safety on the right side of the frame indicates that this is an original Beretta 92. Also visible in this shot is the "step" on the side of the slide where it narrows just past the chamber.]]
[[File:UF 206 22.jpg|thumb|none|500px|During the ransom video it is just possible to see frame mounted safety, as well as the butt mounted magazine release confirming this is a Beretta 92, as opposed to a very early [[Taurus PT92]].]]

===Beretta 92FS===
In "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) one of the rebels can briefly be seen with a [[Beretta 92FS]]. This is not the [[Beretta 92]] seen being used at other points in the episode, as noted by the finger step on the trigger guard.
[[File:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 206 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===CZ 75B===
One of the rebels in "Dead is Forever" uses a [[CZ 75|CZ 75B]] during a mock execution. The weapon misfires, prompting the user to say "Damn these cheep Czechoslovakian weapons."
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg|thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 206 08.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The rebel aims at blindfolded Dempsey ([[Miles Anderson]]) with his CZ 75B.]]

===Heckler & Koch USP===
[[Heckler & Koch USP]] pistols are seen in some episodes, usually in the hands of the antagonists.
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch USP 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|USPs feature prominently in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) where they are used by the French special forces. In this picture, the leader of the French soldiers, LeMaison ([[François Guétary]]), re-holsters his USP after shooting the terrorist leader.]]
[[File:UF 201 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lacompte ([[Pascal Langdale]]) aiming his USP as the French seize the ship.]]
[[File:UF 201 31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|LeMaison aiming his USP at the innocent captain as he forces him to continue to England.]]
[[File:UF 201 58.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mick Mo ([[Dorian Healy]]) uses a USP as he abducts Dempsey ([[Miles Anderson]]) and Nicky Strong ([[Emily Joyce]]) in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]
[[File:UF 206 28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Louis ([[Christopher Fox]]) checks his USP is loaded as they approach a checkpoint. This is a continuity error, as he was previously seen with a [[SIG-Sauer P226]], although it is possible this is the weapon he confiscated from Mick Mo, although why he would be using it instead of his own pistol is unclear.]]

===Smith & Wesson Model 60===
Several of the terrorists on the boat in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) can be seen using [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] snub nose revolvers.
[[File:Classic60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 60 - .38 Special]]
[[File:UF 201 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The leader of the terrorists firing his revolver at one of the ship's crew.]]
[[File:UF 201 12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another terrorists draws a gun in the mess hall, before being shot by the French special forces.]]

===Smith & Wesson Model 686===
The cult leader Omega ([[Conor Mullen]]) in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) carries a [[Smith & Wesson Model 686]] with a 4" barrel.
[[File:S&WModel686.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 686 4" Barrel - .357 Magnum.]]
[[File:UF 205 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Omega aiming his 686 at a police car at the start of the episode.]]
[[File:UF 205 31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Omega firing his 686 at Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]).]]

===Walther P99===
A [[Walther P99]] can briefly be seen in "The List" (Episode 2.4) as the pistol being used by the sleeper assassin Levi ([[Simon Gregor]]).
[[File:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther P99 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 204 4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The P99 can be seen laying on the seat, along with his target instructions. From the proprietary accessory rail visible in this shot, along with the fact that this episode was shot in 2003, this pistol is an original pre-2004 model as opposed to the "Quick Action".]]

==Submachine Guns==
===Heckler & Koch MP5A3===
The standard-issue weapons for the SAS unit Red Troop in the TV show are [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] submachine guns, which are always seen with Surefire fore ends and tactical flashlights as well as the SEF-style lower receiver. These weapons are typically used in Red Troop's domestic hostage rescue missions.
The other SAS unit, Blue Troop, also use identical weapons, as do many Metropolitan Police SO19 (now CO19) officers throughout the show.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 23.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) sneaking across the upper deck of the ship with his MP5A3 in "Communication" (Episode 2.1).]]
[[File:UF 201 48.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 52.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 56.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Louis ([[Christopher Fox]]) provides cover for a wounded Dotsy ([[Jamie Bamber]]), both of whom are armed with MP5A3s.]]
[[File:UF 204 7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Mossad agent Ben Yager ([[Stephen Noonan ]]) uses an MP5A3 fitted with a telescopic sight and suppressor in "The List" (Episode 2.4).]]
[[File:Vlcsnap-2011-03-24-12h33m05s30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Unlike the majority of the assault team in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) carries a regular MP5A3, as her weapon is purely for self defence.]]
[[File:UF 205 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126438.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Capt. Ian Macalwain ([[Richard Armitage]]) with his MP5A3 during the assault on the cult compound in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5).]]
[[File:UF 205 32.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5KA1===
[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5KA1]] submachine guns are used by a number of the French special forces soldiers in "Communication" (Episode 2.1). The MP5KA1 is a version of the original MP5K designed for concealed carry (it lacks the H&K dioptre sights in order to avoid getting snagged on clothing when being drawn quickly from beneath a jacket).
[[File:MP5KA1.jpg|thumb|401px|none|Heckler & Koch MP5KA1 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 35.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A French soldier walks onto deck with a MP5KA1, which starts the fire-fight.]]
[[File:UF 201 40.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jem ([[Elliot Cowan]]) shoots an MP5KA1 armed terrorist with his [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3|MP5A3]].]]
[[File:UF 201 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another French soldier with an MP5KA1. Note the lack of the hooded front sight indicating this is the A1 variant.]]
[[File:UF 201 59.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) surveys the damage after the fire-fight. An MP5KA1 can be seen at his feet in the hands of a dead soldier.]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5SD3===
Red Troop also makes use of the suppressed [[MP5# Heckler & Koch MP5SD|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3]] in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) when Red Troop invades the stronghold of a Christian cult terrorist group to capture their leader.
[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 9mm]]
[[File:UF 205 13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A number of SAS soldiers move into position around the building with their MP5SD3s.]]
[[File:UF 205 17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SAS soldiers entering the house]]
[[File:UF 205 19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) hides around a corner with his MP5SD3.]]
[[File:UF 205 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A side view of Jamie's MP5SD3.]]

===IMI Uzi===
Several of the French special forces soldiers in "Communications" (Episode 2.1) are armed with [[IMI Uzi]]s.
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 25.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the French soldiers enters the bunk room with his Uzi.]]
[[File:UF 201 27.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A view of the Uzi after the soldier puts it on the table. Note the two magazine couple together, which would make the gun somewhat uncomfortable to hold.]]
[[File:UF 201 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The soldier in the rear is armed with an Uzi.]]
[[File:UF 202 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The terrorist targets on the shooting range at Hereford are armed with Uzis in "Mad Dogs" (Episode 2.2).]]

===IMI Mini Uzi===
The [[Uzi#Mini Uzi|IMI Mini Uzi]] machine pistol appears in several episodes being used by the bad guys..
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[File:UF 201 39.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the French soldiers in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) gets shot in the head whilst aiming his Mini Uzi. Note the device attached to the butt stock of the weapon which creates the blood splatter from the bullet hit, which is visible as he falls to the side.]]
[[File:UF 201 54.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another French soldier carries a Mini Uzi with a laser sight clamped under the barrel.]]
[[File:UF 204 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A motorcycle gunman fires a Mini Uzi in "The List" (Episode 2.4).]]
[[File:UF 204 3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===PPSh-41===
A [[PPSh-41]] can be seen briefly in the hands of one of the Georgian soldiers in Episode 2.6, "Dead is Forever".
[[File:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Soviet PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[File:UF 206 14.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The waving soldier on the right is armed with a PPSh-41.]]
[[File:UF 206 15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A front view of the PPSh-41, showing that it is fitted with a drum magazine.]]
[[File:UF 206 16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The crouching soldier is holding a PPSh-41.]]

==Assault Rifles==
===AKM===
[[AKM]]s are a common weapon used by terrorists on the show.
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AKM - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 205 05.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Several AKMs are used by the cult members in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5). This particular rifle is fitted with a telescopic sight.]]
[[File:UF 206 72.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AKMs are one of the weapons used by the rebels in "Death is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]
[[File:UF 206 74.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''SPOILER''': Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) uses an AKM, taken from the dead body of the rebel pictured above, when he kills Capt. Ian Macalwain ([[Richard Armitage]]).]]

===AKS-74U===
One of the French special forces soldiers can be briefly seen with an [[AKS-74U]] in "Communication" (Episode 2.1).
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[File:UF 201 30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the soldiers can be seen picking up the rifle from an armoury when the dead body of one of the soldiers is discovered. It is possible that this weapon was supposed to belong to the terrorists who were previously in control of the ship, as all other weapons used by the French soldiers are "Western".]]

===Colt AR-15 Sporter-1===
[[CAR-15#Colt_AR-15_Sporter-1|Colt AR-15 Sporter-1s]] are seen frequently on the show in the hands of Red troop as a stand in for M16s. They can be recognised as Sporter-1s by their screw type pivot rather than push pin pivot, which is visible in some shots. The rifle is particular prevalent in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) where it is the source of continuity errors where Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) and Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) switch between using SP1s and [[M16A2]]s throughout the episode.
[[File:M16-SP1-30Mag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt AR-15 Sporter-1 (SP1) - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 206 06.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) looking through the British CWS night sight of his SP1, also fitted with a [[Cobray CM203]]. Although it looks like he has the lens cap in place so wouldn't be able to see anything, the lens cap actually has a whole in the centre which restricts the light the sight lets in to allow it to function in daylight.]]
[[File:UF 206 46.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie's SP1 has quadrant sights fitted to the carry handle. Also visible in the bottom right of this shot is the large screw headed pivot pin which is indicative of the Colt Sporter-1 rifles.]]
[[File:UF 206 60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 64.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno attempts to clear a jam by cycling the charging handle, but you can see that the weapon jams again. This weapon is apparently in need of some serious cleaning.]]
[[File:UF 206 69.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie firing his SP1.]]

===Colt CAR-15===
[[CAR-15]]s are a common weapon used by Red troop, and can be seen used by multiple characters in "Something to Do with Justice" (Episode 1.6). These CAR-15s are most likely either mock-ups or commercial copies, as the flash hiders are too long for E1 rifles, but lack the grenade ring found on later E2 rifles.
[[File:CAR-15Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Commercial CAR-15 semiautomatic Rifle - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:UF 206 30.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) carries a CAR-15 while operating as Red Troop's radio operator in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6). During night scenes, it is fitted with some variety of image intensifier on the carry handle.]]

===Colt M16A1===
Some of the cult members in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) use unmodified [[M16A1]]s.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 205 20.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 205 23.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gabriel ([[Thomas Sangster]], best known for ''Love Actually'') fires an M16A1 with cold, unblinking dead eyes.]]
[[File:UF 205 26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===Colt M16A1 (with M16A2 hand guards)===
Red troop make use of [[M16A1]]s fitted with A2 type handguards on several occasions for oversees missions where more range is required.
[[File:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 206 45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete ([[Tony Curran]]) carries an M16A1 with A2 handguards, as noted by its forward assist but no brass deflector, in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]
[[File:UF 206 56.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete takes cover with his M16 as he destroys a bunker with a grenade.]]

===Colt M16A2===
Genuine [[M16A2]]s are also used by Red Troop, alongside the mock A2s based on [[M16A1]]s listed above
[[File:M16A2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 206 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie ([[Jamie Draven]]) checks over his M16A2 fitted with a [[Cobray CM203]] whilst packing for the mission in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6). Later this weapon changes to an SP1]]
[[File:UF 206 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) uses an M16A2 fitted with a [[Cobray CM203]] at some points in the episode, although this switches back and forth with an SP1.]]
[[File:UF 206 48.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lois ([[Christopher Fox]]) is also armed with an M16A2 with a [[Cobray CM203]].]]
[[File:UF 206 62.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Capt. Ian Macalwain ([[Richard Armitage]]) uses an unaccessorised M16A2.]]
[[File:UF 206 71.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno firing his M16A2. Note the muzzle flash pattern created by the A2 flash-hider.]]

===Heckler & Koch HK33A3===
Several of the French special forces soldiers in "Communication" (Episode 2.1) carry [[Heckler & Koch HK33]]s.
[[Image:HK93FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33A3 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:UF 201 42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the French soldiers aiming his HK33 through the smoke created from a stun grenade.]]
[[File:UF 201 55.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another of the French soldiers fires down at Red Troop from the bridge of the ship.]]

===Norinco Type 56-1===
[[Norinco_Type_56-1#Norinco_Type_56|Norinco Type 56-1s]] are a common terrorist weapon on the show.
[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 205 25.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Omega ([[Conor Mullen]]) firing a Type 56 in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5).]]
[[File:UF 206 21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 57.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dempsey ([[Miles Anderson]]) uses a Type 56 in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6), which he takes from a terrorist he kills.]]
[[File:UF 206 63.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Sniper Rifles==
===Accuracy International Arctic Warfare===
Whenever Red Troop requires sniper support, the snipers are typically armed with [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare]] rifles in 7.62x51mm NATO, with the majority of the main characters using one at one point or another. This rifle was used by the British army, under the designation of L118A1.
[[File:Accuracy International Arctic Warfare - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Accuracy International AW - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:UF 201 01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 33.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 201 36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Corporal Ricky Mann ([[Danny Sapani]]) provides sniper support in "Communication" (Episode 2.1), despite the fact it has been established previously that Jamie and Jem are the best snipers in the team.]]
[[File:UF 203 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pete ([[Tony Curran]]) uses an AI AW during the hostage situation at the end of "Wannabes" (Episode 2.3).]]
[[File:UF 203 6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Machine Guns==
===FN Minimi===
Red Troop is frequently seen using the [[FN Minimi]] for support during missions overseas.
[[File:M249Minimi1stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Minimi 5.56mm with 200-round ammo drum.]]
[[File:UF 206 49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ricky ([[Danny Sapani]]) demonstrates his bird calls with his Minimi laying next to him in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6). This weapon is fitted with a 200 round cloth ammo bag.]]
[[File:UF 206 51.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up shot of Ricky firing his Minimi. Note that the blanks are visible in this shot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-136363.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caroline ([[Alex Reid]]) later uses the Minimi to cover Red Troop as they attack the compound.]]
[[File:Alex Reid Minimi promo.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Promotional photo of Caroline with the Minimi.]]

===Browning M1919A4===
The rebels in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) use a [[Browning M1919A4]] fitted with a tripod on the roof of a bunker.
[[File:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Browning M1919A4 on M2 tripod - .30-06]]
[[File:UF 206 47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Red Troop observe the rebel defences. The M1919A4 is visible on the right.]]
[[File:UF 206 55.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The M1919A4 firing on Red Troop.]]

===L7 GPMG===
Being the standard machine gun of the British Army, the [[FN_MAG#L7_Machine_Gun|L7 GPMG]] is used on multiple occasions by the SAS on the show. It is also occasionally used by terrorists on the show.
[[Image:L7A2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|British L7A2 GPMG - 7.62x51mm]]
[[File:UF 201 19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A GPMG can briefly be seen in the background mounted an a Land Rover in "Communication" (Episode 2.1).]]
[[File:UF 205 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The cult in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5) have a tripod mounted GPMG for perimeter defence. It is destroyed with a LAW before it can be used however.]]
[[File:UF 205 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

===RPD===
An [[RPD]] can briefly be seen in the hands of a Georgian soldier in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).
[[File:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPD Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:UF 206 12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The front waving soldier is armed with an RPD.]]

==Shotguns==
===Remington 870 Police Folder===
Some of the SO19 soldiers that appear at the end of "Communication" (Episode 2.1) carry what appears to be [[Remington_870#Remington_870_Folding_Stock|Remington 870 Police Folders]] with extended magazine tubes.
[[File:Remington870LONGFolder.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Folder with extended magazine tube - 12 gauge]]
[[File:UF 201 60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The soldiers on the far right and far left appear to be armed with 870s. Although they are never clearly shown, they are pump action shotguns with full length magazine tubes and top folding stocks, and it would make sense that the armourers from the show would use existing guns from their inventory.]]

==Heavy Weapons==
===Cobray CM203===
Red Troop's M16s and CAR-15s are often fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] 37mm flare launchers to stand in for 40mm [[M203]] grenade launchers.
[[Image:M16A1wNewCM203.jpg|thumb|none|362px|M16A1 with Cobray CM203 launcher - 37mm]]
[[File:UF 206 07.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jamie checking over his [[M16A2]] fitted with a Cobray before the mission in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6).]]

===M72 LAW===
Henno ([[Ross Kemp]]) uses an [[M72 LAW]] to destroy a machine gun nest in "What in the Name of God" (Episode 2.5).
[[File:M72lawopen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW - 66mm]]
[[File:UF 205 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henno firing the LAW.]]

===RPG===
One of the Rebels in "Dead is Forever" (Episode 2.6) can be seen carrying an [[RPG-7]].
[[File:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:UF 206 11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:UF 206 19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The truck that passes Jamie and Caroline carries a squad of soldiers, one of whom is armed with and RPG-7.]]

== Other Seasons ==
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_1|Season 1]]
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_3|Season 3]]
* [[Ultimate_Force_-_Season_4|Season 4]]
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Talk:Desert Eagle

2013-01-07T20:29:03Z

Btgr: /* to clear the confusion... */

==Additional Variants==
[[Image:MP2customEagle.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Desert Eagle XIX gold/stainless controls with ivory grips - .50AE]]
[[Image:BDSIIDeagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A Desert Eagle Mark XIX (.357 Magnum) as used in ''[[The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day]]''. The weapon pictured here is one of the actual screen-used guns from the film; note the custom barrel weight. ''(Big thanks to [[Al Vrkljan]] at Movie Armaments Group for this IMFDB Exclusive image!)'']]
[[Image:KWCDesert.jpg|thumb|none|450px|This is the modified Desert Eagle airsoft pistol made by KWC used on the set of ''[[Mission: Impossible III]]''. Pictures supplied by Propstore.com.]]
[[Image:Desert Eagle Mark XIX 357 Magnum.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Desert Eagle Mark XIX with magazine removed - .357 Magnum]]
[[File:Desert Eagle Mk I 14 inch barrel.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Desert Eagle Mark I with 14" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
:As you can see, I have replaced ManiacallyChallenged's Photoshopped Desert Eagle with what I believe to have been the exact same Desert Eagle that inspired the texture artists and 3D modelers who worked on ''Max Payne 2''. This one belongs to Rick Washburn's Weapons Specialists, Ltd. in New York and was originally used in ''[[The Sopranos]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re-organization==

Alright, I just did a major revamp on this page. There are still quite a few movies and TV shows where I wasn't able to tell what Eagle model appears, and I didn't even ''try'' with the video games yet. Anyone want to help out some more? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:03, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

==Question==

I have a quick question. Does the DE fire .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum rounds originally made for revolvers or automatic rimmless .357 DE and .44 DE rounds? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:It fires actual rimmed ammo, one reason it tends to be unreliable. Currently nobody produces rimless, too bad as I always thought semiauto carbines in rimless magnums would be effective.
[[User:k9870|k9870]]

::You can buy special .44 Magnum ammo for the Desert Eagle. I went with my father to buy ammo once and we just grabbed a box of .44's for our Ruger and they ended up being for the Desert Eagle. They worked just as well as normal rounds though-S&Wshooter

Next to 'Call of Duty 4' in the listing of games this gun appears in, someone left this comment: 

:''Apparently, [[Call of Duty 4]] is the source of gaming popularity of the gun and the word "Deagle"'' 

No, that would be Counter-Strike. Call of Duty 4 was only released in 2007, and both the gun and the nickname "Deagle" have been popular in the mainstream gaming world for much longer than that. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 11:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if that's true because It is called a "Deagle" in Hitman 2 and that came out quite a few years ago(around 2000)

Would any of the ammunition that the desert Eagle piercing body armor?
:It would depend on what ammunition and what level of body armor is in question. Level 1 armor is only designed to stop rounds up to .380 ACP, level 2A up to .40S&W, level 2 up to .357 Magnum, and level 3A up to .44 Magnum. Any level Higher than that is intended to stop rifle rounds and would most likely stop all Desert Eagle rounds. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump Shotty Justice]]-That's interesting.

could the .50 AE round stop a car engine? Rex095
:There are alot of variables to consider there. What component of the engine was hit? from what distance did it hit? what part of the car did the round have to penetrate to reach the engine? Its hard to say definitively, that may be a better a question for the Mythbusters. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

Not to mention the load/ bullet type being used. As a general rule I'd say no. The only 2 common pistol rounds I know of that have a chance are the .454 Casull, .460 S&W and the .500 S&W. But even those would require FMJ or penetrator-core ammo. BUT even if the round penetrates the block (lets use that as an example), it would take longer than you have been lead to believe in movies. For a vehicle to be stopped by a bullet like in a movie you would have to use something like .50 BMG and/ or destroy many critical components in one shot. As an example I had a friend who owned a Geo Metro, the block was cracked and we removed 2 pistons to see if it would still run, it ran; not for long but we estimated it at about 5 miles.
-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]]
==Action==
I feel dumb for asking this but is the Desert Eagle single action? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:Yes it is. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Uh No, its Double Action
:It's single action not sure why it was listed on the page as double/single. (I changed the page, also not sure why it listed as a gas operated trigger either I have no idea what that means) The hammer must be back in order to fire. The Mark VII and XIX have an adjustable trigger but that don't make it double action capable. If you think I'm talking out my ass, that's my Desert Eagle below. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 06:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:MagResDE.357MarkI.jpg|thumb|none|390px|Magnum Research Desert Eagle MK I - .357 Magnum. First model of Desert Eagle put into production.]]

Hell, im not a expert in guns... but a a gas operated trigger means that the trigger uses gas (like a assault rifle) to actually fire the the bullet, so in a way, you shouldn't changed it [[Random internet user]]

:You are wrong. Assault rifles do not have a 'gas operated trigger'. They are gas-operated, but their trigger system is basically the same as recoil operated guns. Gas operation means that the weapon uses gas, from the exploded gunpowder, to move the mechanism, eject the spent casing, where a spring, or springs, take over and move the action forward, loading a new round. The gas is bled a way from the barrel, either through a tube going directly into the bolt carrier ('Direct Impingement') or into a chamber/tube where it pushes back on a piston ('Gas Piston'), which moves the action. All firearms uses the gunpowder gas to propel the bullet. So yes, you are definitely no expert on guns. [[User:Ramell|Ramell]] 23:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

:Simple handguns for low-powered calibers (.22LR, .25ACP, ,32ACP (7.65mm), .380ACP (9mm short), and 9mm Makarov, use simple blowback operation. The only thing keeping the breech (attached to the slide) is a spring. But there are limits with blowback operation. Calibers more powerful than the above can have violent extraction, violent enough to to damage the case, and so need the breech to be locked when firing and held until the pressure has dropped to ensure safe extraction. This kind of operation is called delayed blowback, although some pistols simply used heavier breechblocks and stronger springs (Astra 400 series). Most pistols firing cartridges of 9mm Parabellum or higher use some form of delayed blowback. The M1911 uses lugs on the barrel that match to recesses in the slide and the swinging link to delay the operation. The Browning HP-Power (GP-35) uses cammed surfaces. Gas operation is another way of delaying the operation during peak pressure. More used on assault rifles (and battle rifles, machine guns, etc) but has been used on some pistols. The gas from firing is bled off near the muzzle where it acts against a piston, or to the bolt directly, which then performs the primary unlocking of the breech. The delay in this process is enough to drop the chamber pressure to safer levels and then the process of extraction, ejection, and chambering the next cartridge can commence. The downside of gas operation in a pistol is that you MUST use full or semi-jacketed projectiles. Pure lead projectiles can clog up the port and it is reportedly very difficult to clean. ''Wraith''

whoever you are you need to further explain this concept of a gas operated trigger... Are we talking pneumatically operated or something? Are we talking to reset the trigger? to fire the bullet? to force the slide back? What are we talking about here? As far as I know the DE is gas operated only to push the slide back at which point springs take care of everything else. -[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]]

:Correct. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 00:25, 13 August 2011 (CDT)

== to clear the confusion... ==

the desert eagle is single action. when a magazine is inserted in the pistol, one has to rack the slide back to chamber a round, thus cocking the hammer in the rearward position and putting the pistol in a ready to fire mode. if it was double action, then every time you squeeze the trigger, regardless if loaded or not, the hammer would be in motion going back and then forward striking the firing pin when the trigger breaks.

and it is gas operated. there is a piston that is located under the barrel wich is pushed rearward by propellant gases through holes in the barrel along with the slide wich then ejects and reloads another round, and also cocks the hammer and ready's itself for another shot. thats why FMJ ammo is not reccomended due to the gas piston MAY get itself soldered to the slide or the frame of the pistol in wich it resides, not that it will, but its possible to happen.

depending on wich configuration your getting in this firearm, there is no "special" ammo for it except the .50AE. the .50 action express was basically designed for this pistol. It was developed in 1988 by Evan Whildin of Action Arms. all others will shoot any .357 mag or .44 mag. i baby mine so i use jhp's. dont get them confused with the .357 sig or the .44 special.

The only commercial handgun cartridges designed that exceed its ballistic performance are the .454 Casull, .460 S&W Magnum and the .500 S&W Magnum.

as far as stopping a moving vehicle, that depends on where its making contact. i know if i was shooting mine at a vehicle, id just shoot the driver or the gas tank, but most handguns probably wont stop a vehicle in reality anways, and one who tries will most likely end up being roadkill.

ill think of more when i get some more time. hope this helps with some of the confusion.

Do any terrorists in real life use this handgun??

- It's certainly a possibility. Though I imagine it'd be pretty uncommon. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:12, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe some well off terrorists. You can probably get half a dozen Makarovs for the price of one DE. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:47, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
---As a general rule, no. It has never been manufactured in significant numbers (ie. hundreds of thousands) or exported en masse to third world countries. It's prohibitively expensive and ammunition is difficult to acquire (particularly in the case of the .50AE version). Moreover, you'd have to be completely ignorant to wield this oversized toy against other human beings if you had any other options at all.

Not all terrorists are from third world countries. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 15:29, 7 January 2013 (EST)

== Magnums: Desert Eagle vs. Revolver ==

I have a character in a Sci-fi story where he often encounters large, ferocious, and very tough cat-like creatures and he carry's a magnum handgun as a secondary sidearm for the them. What would be best, A .44 Magnum Desert Eagle or a .44 Magnum Revolver? He can handle ether of them well, so that's not a factor.

:Protip: In 9 out of 10 cases of amateur/fan fiction, Desert Eagle = Gary Stu --[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 00:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
::Changing the gun doesn't change the character. Getting rid of a symptom doesn't cure the disease. --[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 05:36, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

::A revolver is more reliable and practical compared to the Desert Eagle in most instances.
:::- Revolver. Ditto above - The Desert Eagle, for all it's cool-kickass looks, isn't exactly known for it's solid reliability from what I gather. Only main advantage it does have over the revolver is two extra ready rounds, and frankly, if whatever he's shooting at isn't taken care of with six .44s, the extra two more-than-likely won't help all that much. Plus, well, if it's a sci-fi story and he's carrying a (presently) contemporary firearm in the first place, why not go all out and use the wheelgun? I think it would 'show a certain sense of style', myself. ;) [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:40, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

::::::: It also so up to you as the writer, as a which ones do you like?, and what ones dose the character like. the Character could be if he is old fashion and like using a Revolver,or nearly been killed by one when his gun jammed he might carry a Revolver. a Revolver would also make it ease to load and shoot exploding rounds and other "special bullets" (if he use any). you could have the flip side that carry's a Desert Eagle because he was nearly killed because his Revolver took too long to reload. if he uses a Revolver is he could also have a small .357 Snubnosed revolver in a ankle holster as a last ditch weapon. I would also assume that the Character use Rifle(Battle Rifle, Assault rifle,or hunting) or shot gun as well because attacking Large hard to kill Creature with just a Revolver doesn't seem like the best idea in the world. Rex095
::::::::Thanks all, I'm staying as realistic as I can with this, and I know A LOT about guns. ;) I'll go with the 44 Revolver because I'd rather have reliability than 1 (with .50 AE) to 2 extra rounds and slightly faster reloading. This sci-fi story takes place in the far future but I'm avoiding the cliche' of just made up weapons. I can't see most modern weapon designs today being improved upon too much. Ironically, I think revolvers will be around much longer then the Desert Eagle. ;) Oh and his primary sidearm is a 12 round .45 which is an improved version of the H&K HK45, his rifle of choice is an G36-based, 7.62 NATO, 32 round, bull-pup assault rifle and he carries a sawn-off O&U shotgun as a back-up.

::::::::: wouldn't his rifle be G3-Based? an explanation on why were still using bullets is that if there on another world so is easier to make on a newly colonized worlds. Because Laser and Rail guns are more complicated to make and requires more maintenance.REX095
::::::::::No, I did mean G36-based. It uses the same internal system and it's external appearance is similar but more streamlined and bull-puped. It just uses the more powerful 7.62 NATO and it's constructed of stainless-steel and ultra-tough plastic.
::::::::::: You obviously don't know much about guns if you are even asking whether a professional of any sort would choose to use this wonky, unreliable firearm. It's practical uses do not extend beyond impressing people at parties. If this is the far future it's safe to assume that extremely powerful, extremely high capacity pistols have been designed, and new cartridges to go along with them. Caseless rounds with electronic primers and the like. But you do want him to use older weapons, and rotate ammunition types, so some sort of revolver would be the way to go. It's not a stretch to imagine in the future they've developed a 7 round cylinder for .44 magnum.
::::::::::::For your information, I do know a lot about weapons. I just didn't know all the issues with the Desert Eagle, so I researched it a lot and well, it does suck, bad. So yeah, I'm sticking with the wheel-gun. :) You know, in my stories a Desert Eagle never even graces the hands of any of my characters. As for me in real life, I prefer 9mm's and .45's, I especially love .45's, and so does this particular character (see above). But if I want something with more oomph, I'd go for a .357 or .44 Magnum revolver. ;)

This is just an opinion, but I think the real cliche' would be having barely explained laser or plasma or whatever guns. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 17:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, :) atleast when I designed my Blaster handgun (meant for another story) I did my best to explain how it works and it's designed like a conventional handgun, it looks kinda like a cross between a HK USP and a Glock, and it's neither fragile or hard to maintain. :) Do you want me to explain how my Blaster works? if not, I really want to wrap this comment section up. This is the Desert Eagle discussion page, not my Sci-fi Story discussion page. ;D

I kinda wanna know how the blaster works. But id go wheel gun all the way, in an apocalypse magazines are hard to find and sand gets eveywhere. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:59, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

== Operators? ==

Are any Law Enforcement, Armed Forces etc issued a Desert Eagle as a weapon?

No. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 14:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I once read on Wikipedia that some of Mexico's Military Police used the .50AE version in case they needed to disable vehicles, but being as that information was not there a short time later I assume it was just some guy posting nonsense.

:There is no reason for them to buy a weapon like that for just one very specialized purpose when there are literally hundreds of rifles that cost less, are more reliable, and have a better effect on vehicles and their occupants and have ammo that's easier to obtain and spare parts readily available and are far more versatile. No government agency uses the Desert Eagle.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:16, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Heard that a constable in Texas carries a Desert Eagle chambered in .50AE. Not issued but he still carries it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 02:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I can most certainly confirm that. I live just outside of Houston, and ive spotted a Constable carrying a .357 Desert Eagle in a quite oversized holster made to fit his duty belt. Didn't really have time to ask him why he carried it but i was pumping gas when he pulled up next to me with it in his holster and i made the observation of saying it was a Desert Eagle, to which he replied it was a .357. I wouldn't think many cops carry them at all because it is a very impractical weapon to have, but when your in the position to choose your sidearm i guess you pick what you want.--[[User:Doc345|Doc345]] 06:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
:Most of being a cop is about intimidation right? If you get a shiny stainless Eagle with a barrel large enough to fall into pointed at a guy, he might be less likely to "try something." --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::I think that's kinda the whole point behind the design of the Desert Eagle: Intimidation. With it's huge, bulky appearance and the type of round it fires, using it in for example, a home defense scenario will definitely send the bad guys packing for surrender (if of course, the inhabitants of the home have had proper training on how to handle a Desert Eagle after purchasing it, and know how to keep a cool head in a life-or-death scenario). Plus, the loud report of a .357, .44 or .50AE round (whether indoors or outdoors) and the massive flame that spits out the end of the barrel in a dark area would definitely make the bad guy start shaking in his boots if the looks alone haven't already sent him crying for mommy. As Clint Eastwood said in Dirty Harry, the Magnum round can "blow your head clean off" :) --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 00:14, 13 August 2011 (CDT)

Yes and no... My uncle used to be in GOE (Grupo de Operações Especiais (Counter terrorist group)) and there are no restrictions when it comes to sidearms for them. They have Desert Eagle in .357. My uncle said he's never seen any of his coleagues wielding it, everyone preffered H&K USP, Glock pistols, SIG pistols (220 series, SP series and GSR), Walther P99 or FN P35 (Browning HP), he personally preffered P226. Guess only a nutcases for Desert Eagles would actually want it.

:Thank you for sharing that interesting bit of information. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 21:20, 25 October 2011 (CDT)

==Size==
When looking at some pages I noticed the size of the DE looks (at least to me) different. I mean like in [[La Femme Nikita]] and others the DE doesn't look huge, but in [[Desperado]] (and really any movie with the .50 AE Mark XIX)it does. What I'm asking is if there is any major size differences between the models and the calibers. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 02:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

:No not really, there was a slight difference in the Mark I and Mark VII barrels and slides, since the barrels weren't interchangeable. (The Mark VII .50AE can interchange with Mark XIX .357 and .44 barrels) The differences in size could be the actors size, camera zoom etc.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

That's what I thought, thanks man. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 20:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

== .50 Caliber ==

I know that Desert Eagles (I am speaking of the Mark XIX just to clarify) are capable of fire .50 rounds. But I know it doesn't fire the same round as say a Barrett M28, so how exactly are they firing the same caliber round? --[[User:Glockness Monster|Glockness Monster]] 00:11, 10 July 2011 (CDT)

*Calibre is just how wide the bullet is; the difference between .50 Action Express and .50 BMG is one is 12.7x33mm while the other is 12.7x99mm; the .50 AE bullet is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_Action_Express a stumpy little thing] while the .50 BMG is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG a huge pointy thing]. It's like asking why a six-foot thin guy and a six-foot fat guy are different. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:22, 10 July 2011 (CDT)

== DE Drum? ==

I guess while I'm on this page I should ask another silly question I have. Is it possible to use some kind of modified magazine, a drum, beta, or at least an extended mag on a Mark XIX Desert Eagle? --[[User:Glockness Monster|Glockness Monster]] 00:16, 10 July 2011 (CDT)
:Given the aftermarket parts industry has given us hundred round M1911 snail drums, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say "almost certainly." [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:16, 10 July 2011 (CDT)

== Non Fluted .44 Mark XIX ==

All right guys I'm going to ruffle a few feathers here, but there are .44 magnum versions of the Mark XIX that aren't fluted. Take a look at [[Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3]] and [[Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3/Archive 2]] under "Desert Eagle Error" for the full details, but I posted this photo to prove that they are out there and for sale:

[[File:DE .44 Mag XIX.jpg]]

I know, I know, I just messed up a lot of movies out there. Honestly though, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those DE's were actually chambered in .44, simply because .44 blanks are A LOT cheaper and/or easier to make and/or more common than .50 AE blanks.

:Actually, MPM (who is an actual movie armourer) says Hollywood almost exclusively uses .357 or .50AE Desert Eagles, while Canadian armourers use .44. Remember Hollywood's "hot" blanks aren't regular blanks and aren't subject to the same supply chains. As for the image; having looked around more, it seems there are some early unfluted .44 barrels floating around for the mark XIX, but that's from an online auction site and I found the same image [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MRDE44W-1.html here] without the watermark and the disclaimer "Image may not be an exact representation of the actual item," so it's entirely possible it's not actually a .44 at all. While I was checking to see if you were right I actually found several sites claiming they had .44s for auction which had ".50AE" printed at the muzzle. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:41, 25 November 2011 (CST)

::You can still get unfluted barrels, but to get them new you usually just have to request it from the manufacturer. Either way you put it, you can't assume that all unfluted Mark XIX Desert Eagles are .50 AE. --[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 15:24, 25 November 2011 (CST)

== My 3D model of the Desert Eagle pistol. ==

[http://mateogala.cba.pl/Desert_Eagle.html]This is my 3D model. Comments and rating appreciated.--[[User:Mateogala|Mateogala]] 11:33, 30 March 2012 (CDT)

Not bad. Certainly more detailed than in some games I've seen. The finish looks a little too black, but that's like, my opinion, man. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 16:54, 30 March 2012 (CDT)

For Suuure peace and love brother!!!╭∩∩╮（︶U︶）╭∩∩╮

--[[User:Quaney Owns U|Quaney Owns U]] 21:02, 30 March 2012 (CDT)

== What exactly are those things on the Boondock Saints' guns? ==
I first assumed that they were supressors, but everyone seems to call them "barrel weights" or "match weights." What are those? - [[User: 2wingo]]

They attach to the business end of the pistol. Helps reduce muzzle climb. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 08:25, 21 December 2012 (EST)

Talk:Skyfall

2013-01-05T08:39:26Z

Btgr: /* Quick question regarding the police shootout during M's public inquiry */

==Bond's main gun==

I know we can see that Bond has chosen the faithful PPK as his sidearm, but I would love too see a return of the P99. It is the use of it in Bond films that made it a preferred personal sidearm of choice [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I want to see other Walter guns. There's been quite a few new ones since the last movie that came out. I'd love to see the PPQ in action [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I'd rather him use a SIG Sauer P226 as a bigger pistol like he did in QoS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:58, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:Nah, I think he needs a more unique pistol, something to mark that only Bond would use. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

same. maybe the SIG or he pulls a [[Collateral]] with the [[Heckler & Koch USP]]--[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Is anyone else puzzled by how old and haggard Daniel Craig looks in that picture? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:41, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I still have never liked the new Bond. All the Bonds before Craig were the classic fictional "spy" with all the charms and awesomeness that all women want him and men want to be him. I know REAL spies don't usually act like the classic Bond fashion with super gadgets and all but that's why we love him, not for the realism but for the fantasy it really is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig does look older in this picture. I would rather see the new PPS as his sidearm because it's simply an evolution thing. From PPK to P5 to P99, Bond has usually always used a Walther. To have him go back to the PPK, while is nice to see, is not something that make sense this day in age.

:Actually in the Jeffrey Deaver Bond novel "Carte Blanche" Bond does use the Walther PPS [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig has not aged well in my opinion. In Layer Cake when he was early thirties, he looked quite young. When I saw the promo picture for Skyfall, I couldn't believe it was him for a second. I would have liked Bond to sport a P22 or PK380 in Skyfall, but as is life :( [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Charon68, that is what I was referring to the book. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 17:43, 2 February 2012 (CST)

If bond is former SAS soldier, as suggested in Casino Royale, then he would have used a PPK so is a realistic choice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:04, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Personally though I had thought the PPK was withdrawn from service after the attempted kidnapping of Princess Margaret in 1974. As cool as the thing looks the cartridge is woefully underpowered and would barely make a scratch with modern body armor. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:That incident was with the police Royalty Protection branch, and at that point the PPK was carried as a primary weapon. It wasn't a power issue, the gun jammed when the protection officer tried to return fire, and was immediately and totally withdrawn by the police due to this freak occurrence. It is still used (or was still used until relatively recently) by the SAS as an ankle gun during close protection work or for undercover work (such as in Northern Ireland), and I think there is also a hidden pocket specifically for the PPK in the SAS CRW coveralls. Main pistols used by SAS are the P226 and P228. Personally I would like to see bond with a P228, or its successor the P229 SAS. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:30, 2 February 2012 (CST)
::On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Personally I always thought a worth successor to the PPK would have been the HK P7. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:19, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Bond being ex-UKSF has been canon since at least ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]''; Bond can be seen wearing a pair of UKSF Parachute wings on the sleeve of his No.1C uniform, as in [[:File:Usairforce.jpg|This shot]]. Plus he uses a P7 in at least one of the novels. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (CST)

I think we're torn on the ideal of a the Bond gun as being something small and still powerful to what is more practical. In a real sense, Bond should always be carrying full size guns or larger guns because of the situation. Why a small gun when his outfit could offer concealment on larger frame weapons and with modern day suppressors, you can't say a small gun suppresses better. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)

In the novels written by Raymond Benson, Bond would carry a PPK if he needed concealment with a suppressor and he would keep a P99 in his cars or when he was in a tactical situation where he needed more firepower. That was something that was used in the game Bloodstone and would be a nice medium. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 22:07, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Bond is a Naval Commmander, and personally I would like him to use a P228, as it is compact enough for undercover work and has a large enough magazine (13 rounds in 9mm) to see him through a gunfight --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:54, 5 February 2012 (CST).

The p228 is not bond 007 style. The thing is that the PPK is the classic bond gun, but with a magazine size of at max 8 rounds, it is not very good choice. He could use one of two pistols: the P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander) or a usp compact in 9 mil. The usp compact is good for concealment and it offers a larger magazine (13 rounds) compared to the ppk's 8.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:28, 5 February 2012 (CST)
:"he P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander)" Wrong Navy, plus the 226 Navy is (I believe) only chambered in 9mm NATO. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:21, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If anything the PPK is a good backup gun nothing else. I personally wouldn't even consider using a PPK as my primary even if I was using a compact gun just because their is simply better compact guns with better stopping power then the PPK.

Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST)

I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If they want to be really faithful, they should give him back the Beretta pocket pistol he carried in the first few novels. But now I'm being overly sarcastic and need to calm down. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:30, 6 February 2012 (CST)

While I agree that there are better choices then a PPK, I wouldn't want to step in front of one in the hands of a professional like Daniel Craig's Bond. The PPK is iconic and identified with Bond as much as the dinner suit and the Aston Martin; it was chosen by Fleming because its name "rolled off the tongue" and for its sleek looks. The producers did a good job in Quantum of Solace mixing up the traditional (PPK) with the more modern (P226). And since I am new to this site, if someone could tell me how to leave a signature, I would appreciate it :)
Thanks Funkychinaman for the signature info!--[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 22:58, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

I don't know if you folks have seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuO34MDezzU
It looks like folks have been discussing the gun Bond should carry for 50 years. [[User:APS221|APS221]] 00:47, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

They should follow Jeffery Deaver's advice and choose the gun from the book Carte Blanche, the book that was going to be adapted into this film originally. Shame it's not going to be-the gun's a Walther PPS .40 S&W. It betters the PPK in calibers and capacity (if you either have an extended magazine or choose 9mm instead of .40 calibre.), and matches it exactly on size. Also, I believe Bond should have a larger handgun inside his vehicle and for use on covert operations. The PP9, while Bond has been using it before and it has a good capacity, is outdated and still a 9mm. I believe it should be a full-sized handgun, still a Walther, maybe the P22 .22 LR, as it is quieter suppressed than the 9mm PP9. I'm not sure weather .22 LR is more or less powerful than 9mm though...anyone? As for the Bond gun debating, it's never going to stop completely. If Bond books and films carry on being made for hundreds more years, better and more concealable guns in better calibers with better suppressors will become available, and people like us will always disagree with the choice, unless the people in charge of firearms choosing at the Bond films come across this site and choose what we say, which is unlikely. The PPK, whilst good in it's day, is severly outdated (it's nearly twice as old as the actor holding it!), the caliber is ineffective compared to the .40 S&W at penetration and damage, and the PPS can be suppressed just as effectively with modern suppressor technology, compared to the .380 ACP with WWII suppressor technology, and is the same size exactly-Walther claim so themselves. However, the big cheeses at the Bond office just see the PPK not as ineffective, or underpowered, or old, but as a symbol of Bond. I think we may have to put up with it for many years to come, until either they see some sense or are fired. I'm sure Boothroyd's turning in his grave. Alasdair.

The thing with Bond is that he needs to use a gun with decent size caliber. If I would choose a new gun for Bond, I would choose the Kimber Warrior, which is meant for marksmen like Bond. Glocks are good, but are not suited for Bond. The Walther P99 as of the guns Bond has used is the best one that he has used. --[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 10:31, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I want to see him with a PPS or something like that. The PPK is nice, but this isn't Ian Flemming's bond anymore. He is a more realistic action hero. A PPS in a IWB holster with a P99 or PPQ in his car. I like Craig as Bond because he is more gritty and honestly, less of a man whore. I have experience with a PPS and I think Bond would too.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:25, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I'm a huge fan of the Walther, and i would love to see him use his P99 again, i got a replica of it myself and it's really good. Especially is a Vega Holster!

In the book "Devil May Care", Bond looses his PPK frequently and is mostly seen using, of all things an [[M1911]]. That would be pretty cool. [[User:Scattergun|Scattergun]] 14:55, 8 April 2012 (EST)

While I maintain my opinion that the PPK, properly supplemented at appropriate times like in Quantum, is the only gun for Bond, I am sympathetic to the argument that he should be equipped with a more modern weapon. Therefore, I nominate the new SIG SAUER P224. It is of an appropriate size (unlike the Walther P99), has the proven professional pedigree of the P220/226 line, is of high quality (unlike the poor reputation-dogged Walther), isn’t the everyone’s gun the GLOCK is, and has some style and panache that the PPS, GLOCK, USP, and their polymer look-alikes lack. I would prefer 9mm for an agent operating worldwide, but the P224 is available in .40 and .357 SIG (now that’s a serious caliber). --[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 23:01, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:Of course the big problem with a non-Walther gun is that apparently the franchise has a fairly nice sponsorship deal going with Carl Walther GmbH. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:09, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

If the franchise has a big sponsorship with Walther, then why don't Walther make a gun especially designed for James Bond? It could be tailored to meet his needs (suggestions as to what they might be, please), and then they could release it for sale to the public. They'd make a fortune by selling it to James Bond fans, and serious shooters if it was very good. Q could make a big deal in-film about how good it is, and how Walther have made it especially for him. Good idea? Alasdair.

:Well, because imagine the PR when the gun made specially for James Bond is used to hold up a bank, they'd never hear the end of it, nevermind the kind of "MGM is arming our kids!" nonsense they'd get anyway. That and if you're a gun company exec and someone pitches that idea to you, your first reply would be "why not just have him use something we already make?" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:55, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

The whole debate about whether he should be using a PPK should be treated in the same way as whether it is realistic for Bond to engage in so many scuffles in nice, taper-fit Tom Ford suits and Church leather shoes. The cut is simply unrealistic for someone who wishes to conceal serious firepower. Given his obvious fondness for the Italian cut in his suits, it is fitting that Daniel Craig/James Bond should choose the PPK instead of the P99 he had used in the first movie, but, alas, such weapons remained adequate today for a Walter Mitty who would not see much more action. Since the 1970s, an operator carrying a PPK would simply not be taken seriously by fellow professionals, and would be laughed out of the Special Forces Club. A serious operator would simply rather wear a suit with the horrendous sack-like American cut, than do without a true combat pistol.

A former SBS operator would really be more likely to carry a SiG-Sauer P226. He might sacrifice two rounds to save 0.1 inch of butt length by carrying the P228, but someone who really means to can conceal either under a suit jacket. Even women operators could conceal a Heckler and Koch MP5K under their jacket. So the producer or director really missed a chance here to turn James Bond from being a mere walking advertisement for luxury brands to a more serious character (like back in Casino Royale).

Oh, by the way, using an Olympic Arms K23B is the ultimate mark of un-seriousness in a professional. Someone get that girl a HK 416.
:It's most likely what was avaiable and "unique" to the character in the scene. Personally the barrel would have given it crapped accuracy and shooting a guy brawling with a friendly on a moving train would take some expert marksmen even with a better rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:One word for you - TRADITION. Bond's always used a PPK (except in the first few novels), it's pretty much his signature gun. I'm glad they've gone back to it over the P99, which just never had the same classic feel to it.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 10:45, 1 August 2012 (CDT)

Of course. But that still means that the more edgy and realistic Daniel Craig reboot, which started so promisingly in Casino Royale, has now officially gone off the rails and U-turned back into cheesy entertainment territory. If that's the case, please give me back Pierce Brosnan's easy charm, Roger Moore's humour, or Sean Connery sheer animal charisma, not Daniel Craig's brooding sulkiness.

:I don't see how you can claim they've totally rejected the serious tone and gone back to being cheesy fun JUST because he's using the PPK again. Especially as you haven't even seen the film! I mean, do you not realise what a ridiculous jump in logic that is? That's like saying "Because Bond has a beard in one scene they're going to bring back Madonna."--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:51, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

I really wish we'd see other Walthers. Nothing wrong with "tradition' but how about the newer P99 or the PPQ or the PPS? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

== What Happened??? ==

In [[Casino Royale (2006)]], Bond had good trigger discipline and kept good two handed grips on his guns, an now we have shots of him in a footchase pointing his PPK in front of him with his finger on the trigger... call me a safety Nazi but I expect better from a trained agent....--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:35, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

You mean the footchase at Tower Hill? Maybe, and correct me if i'm wrong he just shot someone....

I'm pretty sure Bond was chasing/shooting at someone so that would explain it [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:38, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

==CO19 holster weapons==

The lads from CO19 seem too have a Glock in their holsters. The norm for police carrying sidearms in the UK is a Glock 17, so its safe too assume that they are also Glock 17s.

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Several of the Bond forums have photo threads and their are images of the armourer hand the CO19 actors Glock 17s and G36s.

Regards,
Tecolote

==Trailer unknown gun==

The teaser trailer dropped today, and I have clocked an unknown gun around 1:11. It is scoped and suppressed, but I am unable too identify it. Can someone have a look and possibly screencap it? Cheers lads

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:It was an odd looking thing, whatever it is. It is mostly in shadow but you get one good whole weapon shot of it when there is a flash of light:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:I think if it is a real gun it is highly modified. My guess would be that it is a covert gun that passes as something else (like the [[(Day of the Jackal) - Custom Sniper Rifle|Day of the Jackal]] rifle), as the trigger is a random metal loop, and that vertical part is not a magazine, but appears to fold down from the front as a sort of monopod. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:06, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

It is some type of bolt action for sure,and definitely a covert job.
Regards,
Tecolote

The bolt looks like something off of an Accuracy International rifle.--[[User:6pulkpancerna|6pulkpancerna]] 11:37, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks, I should have known that as I was examining an AI in .300Win. the day before yesterday.

Regards,

Tecolote

I would say its a grease gun--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:26, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

:It deffinitely has nothing to do with an M3, as it is a bolt action feeding from a rifle size magazine (in the trailer it clearly shows the magazine being inserted into the rifle). The large vertical part appears to be a hand grip or support strut of some sort and is not a magazine. As for it being an Accuracy International I can see where you are coming from, but I don't think it is. First off the bolt stem on an AI AW curves backwards, and the bolt on this is straight. Also, the bolt is too far forward from the front of the weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:28, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Yeah, I was just kinda throwing it out there. If it is a M3, it looks like it is highly customized. But now I know it is not a M3.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:10, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

I don't think we'll be able to tell just from this. It looks almost like a custom mockup built around a real weapon. Hell, considering the unusual trigger, box-shaped suppressor, and various almost unrecognizable bits and pieces, it could very well be a completely inert prop with CGI firing. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 20:36, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

It could be a prototype weapon where the design has not been released to the general public. Otherwise, it is just a complete custom mockup.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:40, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

:Um, if the general public don't know about it then how is a movie director going to ask for one? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:59, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

looking at the bolt area and where the stock attaches, my money would be on it being a PGM Ultima Ratio, obviously heavily mocked up, but impossible to say for sure without more pics - TheSpannaMunkee

this rifle appears visually similar to the AMSD OM 50 Nemesis with a large amount of visual modification [[User:LachlanDMcCahon|LachlanDMcCahon]] ([[User talk:LachlanDMcCahon|talk]]) 01:54, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

== Additional images to be Id'ed ==

These are some more images from the trailer. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:16, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

In order: 1. Bond's PPK, which he promptly reloads

2. I assume his HK416 during his house shootout

3. The strange mock-up seen above

4. A Glock, or possibly a SIG? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 01:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

[[File:SkyF 1002.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1003.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1005.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:I'm hoping the gun in that last image is a P99 [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
::Number 4 isn't a Glock and I don't think it's a SIG either, it looks to have a slide mounted safety like a Beretta 92FS but the front profile makes me think it's some sort of Browning variant. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:22, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

The gun on the last picture looks like a P99 to me...But a 92FS isn't a crazy thought, maybe he picked it up from a Silva tug or something..

I'm inclined to think either Browning or 1911 variant --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:07, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:I reckon it's probably some sort of Browning or 1911 variant, the frame looks too long to be a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:48, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
I've taken a new screencap of the silhouette of the strange SMG thing he has, the best I could find. It looks vaguely like the silhouette of a MAT-49, though I doubt that's what it is. Hope it helps nonetheless: http://i49.tinypic.com/359ecl3.png [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:43, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:Look a couble of sections up and you will see a cap of it in the light, where you can see it is actually cuilt on (if anything) a bolt action rifle. What you are seeing as a long SMG magazine is a cosmetic thing stuck on the weapon which appears to be folded forward for storage. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:05, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

You know, i guess it's maybe a H&K USP because it looks like it so much
:Number 4 could be a HK USP actually. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
Haha, someone who's agreed with me ;)
:Sign your posts though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:42, 24 May 2012 (CDT)
All right, will do. --[[User:Walther_arms|walther_arms]]

Picture No. 4 is a Glock 17;there are a number of newly released stills that confirm this. Apparently Bond disarms the guy pointing one at him inthe percussion cap dueler photo and winds up aiming at(or maybe shooting) somebody with a 2 handed hold.
The dueler is almost certainly a Pedersoli repro of a LePage dueling pistol.

Regards,

Tecolote

Should there be a page made for Ola Rapace? The actor fighting bond wielding the converted Glock 17 and the unknowne Sub-Machine Gun?-Bravejoker

== trailer weapons ==

seen the new trailer bad guy seems to have custom take down sniper rifle fits with the mytos of the films allso looks like bond goes back to the p99 all i have seen is a bad blurry image but the trigger guard is defeniatly not a ppk jump in any one who can clear this up--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:49, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

ok the courtyard gun in the trailer 1 got a better look at it seems to be a glock 17 --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:46, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgr2syY_OU4&feature=youtu.be --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 09:58, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

:Awesome!! Just wanted to point out that there is also a slightly different US version, also viewable on the jamesbond007 channel on YouTube. I don't know about you guys, but I think this has some serious potential...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:54, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== Signature Walther PPK ==

a pistol Signature gun that only 007 can use did they not use this in license to kill in 1989 at least they upgraded the caliber to .380 acp (9mm x 17mm short) which is slightly better than the .32 acp (7.65x17mm) that was used in the books and films--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 14:51, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

Kinda. In License to Kill it was a sniper rifle disguised as a camera that was the gun that required a palm scan, not the Walther PPK [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:16, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== "12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun" ==

I've read that this is "Anderson Wheeler 500 Nitro Double Rifle" (source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465931593424952&set=a.430960320255413.102948.154596811225100&type=1&theater ); may it be true?
[[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 17:43, 2 August 2012 (CEST)
:I remember an article about a set visit where they were talking about the fact that the big bad in this film is fond of antique British weapons and uses percussion pistols and a .500 Nitro Express rifle, so that ID might be right. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:59, 2 August 2012 (CDT)
::I've changed the identification, since you are probably correct. For those who are interested, here is the company website: [http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/double_rifle.php Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle] --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer ==

I watched the new trailer this morning, and at the bit when Bond meets Q, I swear I could have heard Q saying the PPK is infact a PPK/S. Could be wrong, but did anyone else notice this? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:Yeah, it was even mentioned on the main page of Skyfall. I think it could definitely be a blued PPK/S based on the grip size. Can someone who knows PPKs better than I do confirm this?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:13, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

::Am I the only one who thinks that there might be a sort of shooting competition between Bond and Silva? I mean, look at the main page, where the P99 and the Flintlock pistols are. Bond is wearing the same suit, the background is the same and it's the same time of day. Just some food for thought --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 02:34, 3 August 2012 (CDT).
:::I don't think that's a P99, it could be the Glock that he has pointed at his head in the screenshot with Silva firing the Flintlock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:24, 3 August 2012 (CDT)

Ive taken a close look at the screen cap of Ola Rapace firing the Glock and if you look close enough it appears there is a selector switch on the side, meaning it could be a genuine Glock 18. -Bravejoker

==Just seen it==
Having just seen the film, I can happily say there were plenty of gunfights and we'll be spoilt for choice when screencapping it. There were so many closeups, especially of the PPK. Here's a list of all the guns I spotted:

* Walther PPK – used by Bond (naturally), Eve and M.
* Glock 17 – used extensively by London Met, Silva and his team when disguised as police officers. Bond definitely uses one on the island; it's not a P99.
* Glock 18 – used by Patrice during the opening scene in Turkey, first fitted with a Beta-C 100-round magazine, then standard 33-round magazines.
* Possible Steyr M9 – used by Silva during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* M4 – used by MI6 guards.
* H&K 416 – used by Silva’s men and several by Bond during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* H&K MP7 – used by Silva’s men on his island.
You're welcome - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:20, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:Fairly sure the pistol Silva had at the lodge was a [[Steyr M9-A1]], the shape of the frame around the rail is pretty distinctive. I think this may have also been the pistol that was used by one of the 3 bodyguards at the Macau place with the komodo dragon pit, you see it when Eve stamps on the guys arm to stop him picking it up (I think this is what happened, can't remember the exact chain of events). Also I think Patrice uses a Glock 17 during the assassination later in the film, in the shot where he removes the suppressor it has no selector on the left side of the slide. There was also a machine gun mounted on a Merlin helicopter during the climax but didn't get a clear look at it due to it being dark and the brief shots of it. My guess is that it is an M2, or possibly an M3M, based on the mounting. Also, I think we should simply say that the Anderson Wheeler 500 NE Double Rifle is used by Bond during the films climax, anything over and above that I would consider a spoiler (at least until the film is on home release and most people will have already seen it). I still have no idea what the weird sniper rifle is, it seems like it was designed so that the case itself is part of the gun (the scope is the carry handle and the long piece at the front is the front edge of the case), but I don't see the point of having a suitcase that turns into a gun when you can just carry a suitcase with a take-down rifle in it. Still, was a great film IMHO, would highly recommend. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:09, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

::Just saw the film again on Friday and, yeah, you're right it is a Steyr M9A1, I get the two mixed up. Patrice also ditches his Glock 18 when it runs empty and uses a standard 17 during the assassination scene, like you said. Also, I spotted a Tokarev on some news footage, but the footage was paused before it was fired. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:53, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:::Are we certain that it was an actual Glock 18 as a Glock 17 is usually just converted to fire full auto than them using an actual Glock 18. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 17:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::::It definitely is, the fire selector is clearly seen when it is first used. Conversely we can be relaively certain it is replaced with a Glock 17 later on as it lacks the selector (although the shot could have been flipped, I didn't look at the ejection port). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:40, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I believe the pistol used by the third bodyguard before Eve stomps on his arm was actually a Walther P99, the rear end looked pretty similar.[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 19:41, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:Possibly, I have only seen the film once and is a very brief shot. However, at the time it struck me as a Steyr M9-A1, and if it is not then it is quite a coincidence that a definite one turns up later in the film. Also, I don't think they would include a Walther P99 in a Bond film and have Bond not use it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:01, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::No, it definitely wasn't a Walther, the front end was too tall. A Steyr is our best guess at this stage. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 08:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Just to confirm, the MG mounted on the Merlin is an M2HB, it is visible in [http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=70141 this] VLOG about helicopter filming about 25 seconds in. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:42, 18 November 2012 (EST)

== Quick question regarding the police shootout during M's public inquiry ==

Would an armed British police officer in real life be allowed to open fire straight away on the bad guy, if the bad guy suddenly starts shooting without warning? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 03:27, 5 January 2013 (EST)

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==Bond's main gun==

I know we can see that Bond has chosen the faithful PPK as his sidearm, but I would love too see a return of the P99. It is the use of it in Bond films that made it a preferred personal sidearm of choice [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I want to see other Walter guns. There's been quite a few new ones since the last movie that came out. I'd love to see the PPQ in action [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I'd rather him use a SIG Sauer P226 as a bigger pistol like he did in QoS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:58, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:Nah, I think he needs a more unique pistol, something to mark that only Bond would use. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

same. maybe the SIG or he pulls a [[Collateral]] with the [[Heckler & Koch USP]]--[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Is anyone else puzzled by how old and haggard Daniel Craig looks in that picture? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:41, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I still have never liked the new Bond. All the Bonds before Craig were the classic fictional "spy" with all the charms and awesomeness that all women want him and men want to be him. I know REAL spies don't usually act like the classic Bond fashion with super gadgets and all but that's why we love him, not for the realism but for the fantasy it really is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig does look older in this picture. I would rather see the new PPS as his sidearm because it's simply an evolution thing. From PPK to P5 to P99, Bond has usually always used a Walther. To have him go back to the PPK, while is nice to see, is not something that make sense this day in age.

:Actually in the Jeffrey Deaver Bond novel "Carte Blanche" Bond does use the Walther PPS [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig has not aged well in my opinion. In Layer Cake when he was early thirties, he looked quite young. When I saw the promo picture for Skyfall, I couldn't believe it was him for a second. I would have liked Bond to sport a P22 or PK380 in Skyfall, but as is life :( [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Charon68, that is what I was referring to the book. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 17:43, 2 February 2012 (CST)

If bond is former SAS soldier, as suggested in Casino Royale, then he would have used a PPK so is a realistic choice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:04, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Personally though I had thought the PPK was withdrawn from service after the attempted kidnapping of Princess Margaret in 1974. As cool as the thing looks the cartridge is woefully underpowered and would barely make a scratch with modern body armor. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:That incident was with the police Royalty Protection branch, and at that point the PPK was carried as a primary weapon. It wasn't a power issue, the gun jammed when the protection officer tried to return fire, and was immediately and totally withdrawn by the police due to this freak occurrence. It is still used (or was still used until relatively recently) by the SAS as an ankle gun during close protection work or for undercover work (such as in Northern Ireland), and I think there is also a hidden pocket specifically for the PPK in the SAS CRW coveralls. Main pistols used by SAS are the P226 and P228. Personally I would like to see bond with a P228, or its successor the P229 SAS. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:30, 2 February 2012 (CST)
::On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Personally I always thought a worth successor to the PPK would have been the HK P7. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:19, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Bond being ex-UKSF has been canon since at least ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]''; Bond can be seen wearing a pair of UKSF Parachute wings on the sleeve of his No.1C uniform, as in [[:File:Usairforce.jpg|This shot]]. Plus he uses a P7 in at least one of the novels. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (CST)

I think we're torn on the ideal of a the Bond gun as being something small and still powerful to what is more practical. In a real sense, Bond should always be carrying full size guns or larger guns because of the situation. Why a small gun when his outfit could offer concealment on larger frame weapons and with modern day suppressors, you can't say a small gun suppresses better. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)

In the novels written by Raymond Benson, Bond would carry a PPK if he needed concealment with a suppressor and he would keep a P99 in his cars or when he was in a tactical situation where he needed more firepower. That was something that was used in the game Bloodstone and would be a nice medium. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 22:07, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Bond is a Naval Commmander, and personally I would like him to use a P228, as it is compact enough for undercover work and has a large enough magazine (13 rounds in 9mm) to see him through a gunfight --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:54, 5 February 2012 (CST).

The p228 is not bond 007 style. The thing is that the PPK is the classic bond gun, but with a magazine size of at max 8 rounds, it is not very good choice. He could use one of two pistols: the P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander) or a usp compact in 9 mil. The usp compact is good for concealment and it offers a larger magazine (13 rounds) compared to the ppk's 8.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:28, 5 February 2012 (CST)
:"he P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander)" Wrong Navy, plus the 226 Navy is (I believe) only chambered in 9mm NATO. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:21, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If anything the PPK is a good backup gun nothing else. I personally wouldn't even consider using a PPK as my primary even if I was using a compact gun just because their is simply better compact guns with better stopping power then the PPK.

Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST)

I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If they want to be really faithful, they should give him back the Beretta pocket pistol he carried in the first few novels. But now I'm being overly sarcastic and need to calm down. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:30, 6 February 2012 (CST)

While I agree that there are better choices then a PPK, I wouldn't want to step in front of one in the hands of a professional like Daniel Craig's Bond. The PPK is iconic and identified with Bond as much as the dinner suit and the Aston Martin; it was chosen by Fleming because its name "rolled off the tongue" and for its sleek looks. The producers did a good job in Quantum of Solace mixing up the traditional (PPK) with the more modern (P226). And since I am new to this site, if someone could tell me how to leave a signature, I would appreciate it :)
Thanks Funkychinaman for the signature info!--[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 22:58, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

I don't know if you folks have seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuO34MDezzU
It looks like folks have been discussing the gun Bond should carry for 50 years. [[User:APS221|APS221]] 00:47, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

They should follow Jeffery Deaver's advice and choose the gun from the book Carte Blanche, the book that was going to be adapted into this film originally. Shame it's not going to be-the gun's a Walther PPS .40 S&W. It betters the PPK in calibers and capacity (if you either have an extended magazine or choose 9mm instead of .40 calibre.), and matches it exactly on size. Also, I believe Bond should have a larger handgun inside his vehicle and for use on covert operations. The PP9, while Bond has been using it before and it has a good capacity, is outdated and still a 9mm. I believe it should be a full-sized handgun, still a Walther, maybe the P22 .22 LR, as it is quieter suppressed than the 9mm PP9. I'm not sure weather .22 LR is more or less powerful than 9mm though...anyone? As for the Bond gun debating, it's never going to stop completely. If Bond books and films carry on being made for hundreds more years, better and more concealable guns in better calibers with better suppressors will become available, and people like us will always disagree with the choice, unless the people in charge of firearms choosing at the Bond films come across this site and choose what we say, which is unlikely. The PPK, whilst good in it's day, is severly outdated (it's nearly twice as old as the actor holding it!), the caliber is ineffective compared to the .40 S&W at penetration and damage, and the PPS can be suppressed just as effectively with modern suppressor technology, compared to the .380 ACP with WWII suppressor technology, and is the same size exactly-Walther claim so themselves. However, the big cheeses at the Bond office just see the PPK not as ineffective, or underpowered, or old, but as a symbol of Bond. I think we may have to put up with it for many years to come, until either they see some sense or are fired. I'm sure Boothroyd's turning in his grave. Alasdair.

The thing with Bond is that he needs to use a gun with decent size caliber. If I would choose a new gun for Bond, I would choose the Kimber Warrior, which is meant for marksmen like Bond. Glocks are good, but are not suited for Bond. The Walther P99 as of the guns Bond has used is the best one that he has used. --[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 10:31, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I want to see him with a PPS or something like that. The PPK is nice, but this isn't Ian Flemming's bond anymore. He is a more realistic action hero. A PPS in a IWB holster with a P99 or PPQ in his car. I like Craig as Bond because he is more gritty and honestly, less of a man whore. I have experience with a PPS and I think Bond would too.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:25, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I'm a huge fan of the Walther, and i would love to see him use his P99 again, i got a replica of it myself and it's really good. Especially is a Vega Holster!

In the book "Devil May Care", Bond looses his PPK frequently and is mostly seen using, of all things an [[M1911]]. That would be pretty cool. [[User:Scattergun|Scattergun]] 14:55, 8 April 2012 (EST)

While I maintain my opinion that the PPK, properly supplemented at appropriate times like in Quantum, is the only gun for Bond, I am sympathetic to the argument that he should be equipped with a more modern weapon. Therefore, I nominate the new SIG SAUER P224. It is of an appropriate size (unlike the Walther P99), has the proven professional pedigree of the P220/226 line, is of high quality (unlike the poor reputation-dogged Walther), isn’t the everyone’s gun the GLOCK is, and has some style and panache that the PPS, GLOCK, USP, and their polymer look-alikes lack. I would prefer 9mm for an agent operating worldwide, but the P224 is available in .40 and .357 SIG (now that’s a serious caliber). --[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 23:01, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:Of course the big problem with a non-Walther gun is that apparently the franchise has a fairly nice sponsorship deal going with Carl Walther GmbH. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:09, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

If the franchise has a big sponsorship with Walther, then why don't Walther make a gun especially designed for James Bond? It could be tailored to meet his needs (suggestions as to what they might be, please), and then they could release it for sale to the public. They'd make a fortune by selling it to James Bond fans, and serious shooters if it was very good. Q could make a big deal in-film about how good it is, and how Walther have made it especially for him. Good idea? Alasdair.

:Well, because imagine the PR when the gun made specially for James Bond is used to hold up a bank, they'd never hear the end of it, nevermind the kind of "MGM is arming our kids!" nonsense they'd get anyway. That and if you're a gun company exec and someone pitches that idea to you, your first reply would be "why not just have him use something we already make?" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:55, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

The whole debate about whether he should be using a PPK should be treated in the same way as whether it is realistic for Bond to engage in so many scuffles in nice, taper-fit Tom Ford suits and Church leather shoes. The cut is simply unrealistic for someone who wishes to conceal serious firepower. Given his obvious fondness for the Italian cut in his suits, it is fitting that Daniel Craig/James Bond should choose the PPK instead of the P99 he had used in the first movie, but, alas, such weapons remained adequate today for a Walter Mitty who would not see much more action. Since the 1970s, an operator carrying a PPK would simply not be taken seriously by fellow professionals, and would be laughed out of the Special Forces Club. A serious operator would simply rather wear a suit with the horrendous sack-like American cut, than do without a true combat pistol.

A former SBS operator would really be more likely to carry a SiG-Sauer P226. He might sacrifice two rounds to save 0.1 inch of butt length by carrying the P228, but someone who really means to can conceal either under a suit jacket. Even women operators could conceal a Heckler and Koch MP5K under their jacket. So the producer or director really missed a chance here to turn James Bond from being a mere walking advertisement for luxury brands to a more serious character (like back in Casino Royale).

Oh, by the way, using an Olympic Arms K23B is the ultimate mark of un-seriousness in a professional. Someone get that girl a HK 416.
:It's most likely what was avaiable and "unique" to the character in the scene. Personally the barrel would have given it crapped accuracy and shooting a guy brawling with a friendly on a moving train would take some expert marksmen even with a better rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:One word for you - TRADITION. Bond's always used a PPK (except in the first few novels), it's pretty much his signature gun. I'm glad they've gone back to it over the P99, which just never had the same classic feel to it.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 10:45, 1 August 2012 (CDT)

Of course. But that still means that the more edgy and realistic Daniel Craig reboot, which started so promisingly in Casino Royale, has now officially gone off the rails and U-turned back into cheesy entertainment territory. If that's the case, please give me back Pierce Brosnan's easy charm, Roger Moore's humour, or Sean Connery sheer animal charisma, not Daniel Craig's brooding sulkiness.

:I don't see how you can claim they've totally rejected the serious tone and gone back to being cheesy fun JUST because he's using the PPK again. Especially as you haven't even seen the film! I mean, do you not realise what a ridiculous jump in logic that is? That's like saying "Because Bond has a beard in one scene they're going to bring back Madonna."--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:51, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

I really wish we'd see other Walthers. Nothing wrong with "tradition' but how about the newer P99 or the PPQ or the PPS? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

== What Happened??? ==

In [[Casino Royale (2006)]], Bond had good trigger discipline and kept good two handed grips on his guns, an now we have shots of him in a footchase pointing his PPK in front of him with his finger on the trigger... call me a safety Nazi but I expect better from a trained agent....--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:35, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

You mean the footchase at Tower Hill? Maybe, and correct me if i'm wrong he just shot someone....

I'm pretty sure Bond was chasing/shooting at someone so that would explain it [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:38, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

==CO19 holster weapons==

The lads from CO19 seem too have a Glock in their holsters. The norm for police carrying sidearms in the UK is a Glock 17, so its safe too assume that they are also Glock 17s.

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Several of the Bond forums have photo threads and their are images of the armourer hand the CO19 actors Glock 17s and G36s.

Regards,
Tecolote

==Trailer unknown gun==

The teaser trailer dropped today, and I have clocked an unknown gun around 1:11. It is scoped and suppressed, but I am unable too identify it. Can someone have a look and possibly screencap it? Cheers lads

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:It was an odd looking thing, whatever it is. It is mostly in shadow but you get one good whole weapon shot of it when there is a flash of light:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:I think if it is a real gun it is highly modified. My guess would be that it is a covert gun that passes as something else (like the [[(Day of the Jackal) - Custom Sniper Rifle|Day of the Jackal]] rifle), as the trigger is a random metal loop, and that vertical part is not a magazine, but appears to fold down from the front as a sort of monopod. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:06, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

It is some type of bolt action for sure,and definitely a covert job.
Regards,
Tecolote

The bolt looks like something off of an Accuracy International rifle.--[[User:6pulkpancerna|6pulkpancerna]] 11:37, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks, I should have known that as I was examining an AI in .300Win. the day before yesterday.

Regards,

Tecolote

I would say its a grease gun--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:26, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

:It deffinitely has nothing to do with an M3, as it is a bolt action feeding from a rifle size magazine (in the trailer it clearly shows the magazine being inserted into the rifle). The large vertical part appears to be a hand grip or support strut of some sort and is not a magazine. As for it being an Accuracy International I can see where you are coming from, but I don't think it is. First off the bolt stem on an AI AW curves backwards, and the bolt on this is straight. Also, the bolt is too far forward from the front of the weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:28, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Yeah, I was just kinda throwing it out there. If it is a M3, it looks like it is highly customized. But now I know it is not a M3.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:10, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

I don't think we'll be able to tell just from this. It looks almost like a custom mockup built around a real weapon. Hell, considering the unusual trigger, box-shaped suppressor, and various almost unrecognizable bits and pieces, it could very well be a completely inert prop with CGI firing. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 20:36, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

It could be a prototype weapon where the design has not been released to the general public. Otherwise, it is just a complete custom mockup.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:40, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

:Um, if the general public don't know about it then how is a movie director going to ask for one? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:59, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

looking at the bolt area and where the stock attaches, my money would be on it being a PGM Ultima Ratio, obviously heavily mocked up, but impossible to say for sure without more pics - TheSpannaMunkee

this rifle appears visually similar to the AMSD OM 50 Nemesis with a large amount of visual modification [[User:LachlanDMcCahon|LachlanDMcCahon]] ([[User talk:LachlanDMcCahon|talk]]) 01:54, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

== Additional images to be Id'ed ==

These are some more images from the trailer. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:16, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

In order: 1. Bond's PPK, which he promptly reloads

2. I assume his HK416 during his house shootout

3. The strange mock-up seen above

4. A Glock, or possibly a SIG? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 01:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

[[File:SkyF 1002.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1003.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1005.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:I'm hoping the gun in that last image is a P99 [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
::Number 4 isn't a Glock and I don't think it's a SIG either, it looks to have a slide mounted safety like a Beretta 92FS but the front profile makes me think it's some sort of Browning variant. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:22, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

The gun on the last picture looks like a P99 to me...But a 92FS isn't a crazy thought, maybe he picked it up from a Silva tug or something..

I'm inclined to think either Browning or 1911 variant --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:07, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:I reckon it's probably some sort of Browning or 1911 variant, the frame looks too long to be a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:48, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
I've taken a new screencap of the silhouette of the strange SMG thing he has, the best I could find. It looks vaguely like the silhouette of a MAT-49, though I doubt that's what it is. Hope it helps nonetheless: http://i49.tinypic.com/359ecl3.png [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:43, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:Look a couble of sections up and you will see a cap of it in the light, where you can see it is actually cuilt on (if anything) a bolt action rifle. What you are seeing as a long SMG magazine is a cosmetic thing stuck on the weapon which appears to be folded forward for storage. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:05, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

You know, i guess it's maybe a H&K USP because it looks like it so much
:Number 4 could be a HK USP actually. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
Haha, someone who's agreed with me ;)
:Sign your posts though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:42, 24 May 2012 (CDT)
All right, will do. --[[User:Walther_arms|walther_arms]]

Picture No. 4 is a Glock 17;there are a number of newly released stills that confirm this. Apparently Bond disarms the guy pointing one at him inthe percussion cap dueler photo and winds up aiming at(or maybe shooting) somebody with a 2 handed hold.
The dueler is almost certainly a Pedersoli repro of a LePage dueling pistol.

Regards,

Tecolote

Should there be a page made for Ola Rapace? The actor fighting bond wielding the converted Glock 17 and the unknowne Sub-Machine Gun?-Bravejoker

== trailer weapons ==

seen the new trailer bad guy seems to have custom take down sniper rifle fits with the mytos of the films allso looks like bond goes back to the p99 all i have seen is a bad blurry image but the trigger guard is defeniatly not a ppk jump in any one who can clear this up--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:49, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

ok the courtyard gun in the trailer 1 got a better look at it seems to be a glock 17 --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:46, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgr2syY_OU4&feature=youtu.be --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 09:58, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

:Awesome!! Just wanted to point out that there is also a slightly different US version, also viewable on the jamesbond007 channel on YouTube. I don't know about you guys, but I think this has some serious potential...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:54, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== Signature Walther PPK ==

a pistol Signature gun that only 007 can use did they not use this in license to kill in 1989 at least they upgraded the caliber to .380 acp (9mm x 17mm short) which is slightly better than the .32 acp (7.65x17mm) that was used in the books and films--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 14:51, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

Kinda. In License to Kill it was a sniper rifle disguised as a camera that was the gun that required a palm scan, not the Walther PPK [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:16, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== "12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun" ==

I've read that this is "Anderson Wheeler 500 Nitro Double Rifle" (source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465931593424952&set=a.430960320255413.102948.154596811225100&type=1&theater ); may it be true?
[[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 17:43, 2 August 2012 (CEST)
:I remember an article about a set visit where they were talking about the fact that the big bad in this film is fond of antique British weapons and uses percussion pistols and a .500 Nitro Express rifle, so that ID might be right. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:59, 2 August 2012 (CDT)
::I've changed the identification, since you are probably correct. For those who are interested, here is the company website: [http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/double_rifle.php Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle] --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer ==

I watched the new trailer this morning, and at the bit when Bond meets Q, I swear I could have heard Q saying the PPK is infact a PPK/S. Could be wrong, but did anyone else notice this? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:Yeah, it was even mentioned on the main page of Skyfall. I think it could definitely be a blued PPK/S based on the grip size. Can someone who knows PPKs better than I do confirm this?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:13, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

::Am I the only one who thinks that there might be a sort of shooting competition between Bond and Silva? I mean, look at the main page, where the P99 and the Flintlock pistols are. Bond is wearing the same suit, the background is the same and it's the same time of day. Just some food for thought --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 02:34, 3 August 2012 (CDT).
:::I don't think that's a P99, it could be the Glock that he has pointed at his head in the screenshot with Silva firing the Flintlock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:24, 3 August 2012 (CDT)

Ive taken a close look at the screen cap of Ola Rapace firing the Glock and if you look close enough it appears there is a selector switch on the side, meaning it could be a genuine Glock 18. -Bravejoker

==Just seen it==
Having just seen the film, I can happily say there were plenty of gunfights and we'll be spoilt for choice when screencapping it. There were so many closeups, especially of the PPK. Here's a list of all the guns I spotted:

* Walther PPK – used by Bond (naturally), Eve and M.
* Glock 17 – used extensively by London Met, Silva and his team when disguised as police officers. Bond definitely uses one on the island; it's not a P99.
* Glock 18 – used by Patrice during the opening scene in Turkey, first fitted with a Beta-C 100-round magazine, then standard 33-round magazines.
* Possible Steyr M9 – used by Silva during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* M4 – used by MI6 guards.
* H&K 416 – used by Silva’s men and several by Bond during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* H&K MP7 – used by Silva’s men on his island.
You're welcome - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:20, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:Fairly sure the pistol Silva had at the lodge was a [[Steyr M9-A1]], the shape of the frame around the rail is pretty distinctive. I think this may have also been the pistol that was used by one of the 3 bodyguards at the Macau place with the komodo dragon pit, you see it when Eve stamps on the guys arm to stop him picking it up (I think this is what happened, can't remember the exact chain of events). Also I think Patrice uses a Glock 17 during the assassination later in the film, in the shot where he removes the suppressor it has no selector on the left side of the slide. There was also a machine gun mounted on a Merlin helicopter during the climax but didn't get a clear look at it due to it being dark and the brief shots of it. My guess is that it is an M2, or possibly an M3M, based on the mounting. Also, I think we should simply say that the Anderson Wheeler 500 NE Double Rifle is used by Bond during the films climax, anything over and above that I would consider a spoiler (at least until the film is on home release and most people will have already seen it). I still have no idea what the weird sniper rifle is, it seems like it was designed so that the case itself is part of the gun (the scope is the carry handle and the long piece at the front is the front edge of the case), but I don't see the point of having a suitcase that turns into a gun when you can just carry a suitcase with a take-down rifle in it. Still, was a great film IMHO, would highly recommend. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:09, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

::Just saw the film again on Friday and, yeah, you're right it is a Steyr M9A1, I get the two mixed up. Patrice also ditches his Glock 18 when it runs empty and uses a standard 17 during the assassination scene, like you said. Also, I spotted a Tokarev on some news footage, but the footage was paused before it was fired. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:53, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:::Are we certain that it was an actual Glock 18 as a Glock 17 is usually just converted to fire full auto than them using an actual Glock 18. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 17:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::::It definitely is, the fire selector is clearly seen when it is first used. Conversely we can be relaively certain it is replaced with a Glock 17 later on as it lacks the selector (although the shot could have been flipped, I didn't look at the ejection port). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:40, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I believe the pistol used by the third bodyguard before Eve stomps on his arm was actually a Walther P99, the rear end looked pretty similar.[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 19:41, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:Possibly, I have only seen the film once and is a very brief shot. However, at the time it struck me as a Steyr M9-A1, and if it is not then it is quite a coincidence that a definite one turns up later in the film. Also, I don't think they would include a Walther P99 in a Bond film and have Bond not use it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:01, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::No, it definitely wasn't a Walther, the front end was too tall. A Steyr is our best guess at this stage. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 08:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Just to confirm, the MG mounted on the Merlin is an M2HB, it is visible in [http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=70141 this] VLOG about helicopter filming about 25 seconds in. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:42, 18 November 2012 (EST)

== Quick question regarding the police shootout during M's public inquiry ==

Would an armed British police officer in real life be allowed to open fire straight away on a bad guy if the bad guy suddenly starts shooting without warning? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 03:27, 5 January 2013 (EST)

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==Bond's main gun==

I know we can see that Bond has chosen the faithful PPK as his sidearm, but I would love too see a return of the P99. It is the use of it in Bond films that made it a preferred personal sidearm of choice [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

I want to see other Walter guns. There's been quite a few new ones since the last movie that came out. I'd love to see the PPQ in action [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I'd rather him use a SIG Sauer P226 as a bigger pistol like he did in QoS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:58, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:Nah, I think he needs a more unique pistol, something to mark that only Bond would use. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

same. maybe the SIG or he pulls a [[Collateral]] with the [[Heckler & Koch USP]]--[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

Is anyone else puzzled by how old and haggard Daniel Craig looks in that picture? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:41, 2 February 2012 (CST)

I still have never liked the new Bond. All the Bonds before Craig were the classic fictional "spy" with all the charms and awesomeness that all women want him and men want to be him. I know REAL spies don't usually act like the classic Bond fashion with super gadgets and all but that's why we love him, not for the realism but for the fantasy it really is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig does look older in this picture. I would rather see the new PPS as his sidearm because it's simply an evolution thing. From PPK to P5 to P99, Bond has usually always used a Walther. To have him go back to the PPK, while is nice to see, is not something that make sense this day in age.

:Actually in the Jeffrey Deaver Bond novel "Carte Blanche" Bond does use the Walther PPS [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Daniel Craig has not aged well in my opinion. In Layer Cake when he was early thirties, he looked quite young. When I saw the promo picture for Skyfall, I couldn't believe it was him for a second. I would have liked Bond to sport a P22 or PK380 in Skyfall, but as is life :( [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Charon68, that is what I was referring to the book. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 17:43, 2 February 2012 (CST)

If bond is former SAS soldier, as suggested in Casino Royale, then he would have used a PPK so is a realistic choice. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:04, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Personally though I had thought the PPK was withdrawn from service after the attempted kidnapping of Princess Margaret in 1974. As cool as the thing looks the cartridge is woefully underpowered and would barely make a scratch with modern body armor. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:That incident was with the police Royalty Protection branch, and at that point the PPK was carried as a primary weapon. It wasn't a power issue, the gun jammed when the protection officer tried to return fire, and was immediately and totally withdrawn by the police due to this freak occurrence. It is still used (or was still used until relatively recently) by the SAS as an ankle gun during close protection work or for undercover work (such as in Northern Ireland), and I think there is also a hidden pocket specifically for the PPK in the SAS CRW coveralls. Main pistols used by SAS are the P226 and P228. Personally I would like to see bond with a P228, or its successor the P229 SAS. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:30, 2 February 2012 (CST)
::On the Casino Royale website it says that Bond is former SBS. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:59, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Personally I always thought a worth successor to the PPK would have been the HK P7. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:19, 2 February 2012 (CST)
:::Bond being ex-UKSF has been canon since at least ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]''; Bond can be seen wearing a pair of UKSF Parachute wings on the sleeve of his No.1C uniform, as in [[:File:Usairforce.jpg|This shot]]. Plus he uses a P7 in at least one of the novels. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:34, 3 February 2012 (CST)

I think we're torn on the ideal of a the Bond gun as being something small and still powerful to what is more practical. In a real sense, Bond should always be carrying full size guns or larger guns because of the situation. Why a small gun when his outfit could offer concealment on larger frame weapons and with modern day suppressors, you can't say a small gun suppresses better. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)

In the novels written by Raymond Benson, Bond would carry a PPK if he needed concealment with a suppressor and he would keep a P99 in his cars or when he was in a tactical situation where he needed more firepower. That was something that was used in the game Bloodstone and would be a nice medium. --[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 22:07, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Bond is a Naval Commmander, and personally I would like him to use a P228, as it is compact enough for undercover work and has a large enough magazine (13 rounds in 9mm) to see him through a gunfight --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:54, 5 February 2012 (CST).

The p228 is not bond 007 style. The thing is that the PPK is the classic bond gun, but with a magazine size of at max 8 rounds, it is not very good choice. He could use one of two pistols: the P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander) or a usp compact in 9 mil. The usp compact is good for concealment and it offers a larger magazine (13 rounds) compared to the ppk's 8.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:28, 5 February 2012 (CST)
:"he P226 Navy in .40 S&W (since he is an naval commander)" Wrong Navy, plus the 226 Navy is (I believe) only chambered in 9mm NATO. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:21, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If anything the PPK is a good backup gun nothing else. I personally wouldn't even consider using a PPK as my primary even if I was using a compact gun just because their is simply better compact guns with better stopping power then the PPK.

Guys, we're missing the point. It doesn't matter what guns are better choices than a PPK. Most guns out there are. Bond may be a former SBS or SAS or whatever, but he NEEDS to carry a Walther. For 50 years, he has carried three different guns, all Walther. I am in huge favor of him carrying both a P99 and a PPK depending on the situation, although I would probably get over it if he replaced the PPK with a PPS. I think a lot of people want to see Bond carry guns that THEY like, but don't really fit Bond's persona. All the guns suggested are combat sidearms, while Bond only needs something to serve for a CCW. If he needs more firepower, there is the P99.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:44, 5 February 2012 (CST)

I totally agree with JazzBlackBelt. The P99 is the best for Bond and the PPK makes for a great backup gun.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:25, 5 February 2012 (CST)

If they want to be really faithful, they should give him back the Beretta pocket pistol he carried in the first few novels. But now I'm being overly sarcastic and need to calm down. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:30, 6 February 2012 (CST)

While I agree that there are better choices then a PPK, I wouldn't want to step in front of one in the hands of a professional like Daniel Craig's Bond. The PPK is iconic and identified with Bond as much as the dinner suit and the Aston Martin; it was chosen by Fleming because its name "rolled off the tongue" and for its sleek looks. The producers did a good job in Quantum of Solace mixing up the traditional (PPK) with the more modern (P226). And since I am new to this site, if someone could tell me how to leave a signature, I would appreciate it :)
Thanks Funkychinaman for the signature info!--[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 22:58, 7 April 2012 (CDT)

I don't know if you folks have seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuO34MDezzU
It looks like folks have been discussing the gun Bond should carry for 50 years. [[User:APS221|APS221]] 00:47, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

They should follow Jeffery Deaver's advice and choose the gun from the book Carte Blanche, the book that was going to be adapted into this film originally. Shame it's not going to be-the gun's a Walther PPS .40 S&W. It betters the PPK in calibers and capacity (if you either have an extended magazine or choose 9mm instead of .40 calibre.), and matches it exactly on size. Also, I believe Bond should have a larger handgun inside his vehicle and for use on covert operations. The PP9, while Bond has been using it before and it has a good capacity, is outdated and still a 9mm. I believe it should be a full-sized handgun, still a Walther, maybe the P22 .22 LR, as it is quieter suppressed than the 9mm PP9. I'm not sure weather .22 LR is more or less powerful than 9mm though...anyone? As for the Bond gun debating, it's never going to stop completely. If Bond books and films carry on being made for hundreds more years, better and more concealable guns in better calibers with better suppressors will become available, and people like us will always disagree with the choice, unless the people in charge of firearms choosing at the Bond films come across this site and choose what we say, which is unlikely. The PPK, whilst good in it's day, is severly outdated (it's nearly twice as old as the actor holding it!), the caliber is ineffective compared to the .40 S&W at penetration and damage, and the PPS can be suppressed just as effectively with modern suppressor technology, compared to the .380 ACP with WWII suppressor technology, and is the same size exactly-Walther claim so themselves. However, the big cheeses at the Bond office just see the PPK not as ineffective, or underpowered, or old, but as a symbol of Bond. I think we may have to put up with it for many years to come, until either they see some sense or are fired. I'm sure Boothroyd's turning in his grave. Alasdair.

The thing with Bond is that he needs to use a gun with decent size caliber. If I would choose a new gun for Bond, I would choose the Kimber Warrior, which is meant for marksmen like Bond. Glocks are good, but are not suited for Bond. The Walther P99 as of the guns Bond has used is the best one that he has used. --[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 10:31, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I want to see him with a PPS or something like that. The PPK is nice, but this isn't Ian Flemming's bond anymore. He is a more realistic action hero. A PPS in a IWB holster with a P99 or PPQ in his car. I like Craig as Bond because he is more gritty and honestly, less of a man whore. I have experience with a PPS and I think Bond would too.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:25, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

I'm a huge fan of the Walther, and i would love to see him use his P99 again, i got a replica of it myself and it's really good. Especially is a Vega Holster!

In the book "Devil May Care", Bond looses his PPK frequently and is mostly seen using, of all things an [[M1911]]. That would be pretty cool. [[User:Scattergun|Scattergun]] 14:55, 8 April 2012 (EST)

While I maintain my opinion that the PPK, properly supplemented at appropriate times like in Quantum, is the only gun for Bond, I am sympathetic to the argument that he should be equipped with a more modern weapon. Therefore, I nominate the new SIG SAUER P224. It is of an appropriate size (unlike the Walther P99), has the proven professional pedigree of the P220/226 line, is of high quality (unlike the poor reputation-dogged Walther), isn’t the everyone’s gun the GLOCK is, and has some style and panache that the PPS, GLOCK, USP, and their polymer look-alikes lack. I would prefer 9mm for an agent operating worldwide, but the P224 is available in .40 and .357 SIG (now that’s a serious caliber). --[[User:SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon|SIG 1911 A Professional's Weapon]] 23:01, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:Of course the big problem with a non-Walther gun is that apparently the franchise has a fairly nice sponsorship deal going with Carl Walther GmbH. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:09, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

If the franchise has a big sponsorship with Walther, then why don't Walther make a gun especially designed for James Bond? It could be tailored to meet his needs (suggestions as to what they might be, please), and then they could release it for sale to the public. They'd make a fortune by selling it to James Bond fans, and serious shooters if it was very good. Q could make a big deal in-film about how good it is, and how Walther have made it especially for him. Good idea? Alasdair.

:Well, because imagine the PR when the gun made specially for James Bond is used to hold up a bank, they'd never hear the end of it, nevermind the kind of "MGM is arming our kids!" nonsense they'd get anyway. That and if you're a gun company exec and someone pitches that idea to you, your first reply would be "why not just have him use something we already make?" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:55, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

The whole debate about whether he should be using a PPK should be treated in the same way as whether it is realistic for Bond to engage in so many scuffles in nice, taper-fit Tom Ford suits and Church leather shoes. The cut is simply unrealistic for someone who wishes to conceal serious firepower. Given his obvious fondness for the Italian cut in his suits, it is fitting that Daniel Craig/James Bond should choose the PPK instead of the P99 he had used in the first movie, but, alas, such weapons remained adequate today for a Walter Mitty who would not see much more action. Since the 1970s, an operator carrying a PPK would simply not be taken seriously by fellow professionals, and would be laughed out of the Special Forces Club. A serious operator would simply rather wear a suit with the horrendous sack-like American cut, than do without a true combat pistol.

A former SBS operator would really be more likely to carry a SiG-Sauer P226. He might sacrifice two rounds to save 0.1 inch of butt length by carrying the P228, but someone who really means to can conceal either under a suit jacket. Even women operators could conceal a Heckler and Koch MP5K under their jacket. So the producer or director really missed a chance here to turn James Bond from being a mere walking advertisement for luxury brands to a more serious character (like back in Casino Royale).

Oh, by the way, using an Olympic Arms K23B is the ultimate mark of un-seriousness in a professional. Someone get that girl a HK 416.
:It's most likely what was avaiable and "unique" to the character in the scene. Personally the barrel would have given it crapped accuracy and shooting a guy brawling with a friendly on a moving train would take some expert marksmen even with a better rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:One word for you - TRADITION. Bond's always used a PPK (except in the first few novels), it's pretty much his signature gun. I'm glad they've gone back to it over the P99, which just never had the same classic feel to it.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 10:45, 1 August 2012 (CDT)

Of course. But that still means that the more edgy and realistic Daniel Craig reboot, which started so promisingly in Casino Royale, has now officially gone off the rails and U-turned back into cheesy entertainment territory. If that's the case, please give me back Pierce Brosnan's easy charm, Roger Moore's humour, or Sean Connery sheer animal charisma, not Daniel Craig's brooding sulkiness.

:I don't see how you can claim they've totally rejected the serious tone and gone back to being cheesy fun JUST because he's using the PPK again. Especially as you haven't even seen the film! I mean, do you not realise what a ridiculous jump in logic that is? That's like saying "Because Bond has a beard in one scene they're going to bring back Madonna."--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 02:51, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

I really wish we'd see other Walthers. Nothing wrong with "tradition' but how about the newer P99 or the PPQ or the PPS? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

== What Happened??? ==

In [[Casino Royale (2006)]], Bond had good trigger discipline and kept good two handed grips on his guns, an now we have shots of him in a footchase pointing his PPK in front of him with his finger on the trigger... call me a safety Nazi but I expect better from a trained agent....--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 11:35, 8 April 2012 (CDT)

You mean the footchase at Tower Hill? Maybe, and correct me if i'm wrong he just shot someone....

I'm pretty sure Bond was chasing/shooting at someone so that would explain it [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:38, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

==CO19 holster weapons==

The lads from CO19 seem too have a Glock in their holsters. The norm for police carrying sidearms in the UK is a Glock 17, so its safe too assume that they are also Glock 17s.

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

Several of the Bond forums have photo threads and their are images of the armourer hand the CO19 actors Glock 17s and G36s.

Regards,
Tecolote

==Trailer unknown gun==

The teaser trailer dropped today, and I have clocked an unknown gun around 1:11. It is scoped and suppressed, but I am unable too identify it. Can someone have a look and possibly screencap it? Cheers lads

[[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:It was an odd looking thing, whatever it is. It is mostly in shadow but you get one good whole weapon shot of it when there is a flash of light:
:[[File:Skyfall sniper rifle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:I think if it is a real gun it is highly modified. My guess would be that it is a covert gun that passes as something else (like the [[(Day of the Jackal) - Custom Sniper Rifle|Day of the Jackal]] rifle), as the trigger is a random metal loop, and that vertical part is not a magazine, but appears to fold down from the front as a sort of monopod. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:06, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

It is some type of bolt action for sure,and definitely a covert job.
Regards,
Tecolote

The bolt looks like something off of an Accuracy International rifle.--[[User:6pulkpancerna|6pulkpancerna]] 11:37, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks, I should have known that as I was examining an AI in .300Win. the day before yesterday.

Regards,

Tecolote

I would say its a grease gun--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 15:26, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

:It deffinitely has nothing to do with an M3, as it is a bolt action feeding from a rifle size magazine (in the trailer it clearly shows the magazine being inserted into the rifle). The large vertical part appears to be a hand grip or support strut of some sort and is not a magazine. As for it being an Accuracy International I can see where you are coming from, but I don't think it is. First off the bolt stem on an AI AW curves backwards, and the bolt on this is straight. Also, the bolt is too far forward from the front of the weapon. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:28, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Yeah, I was just kinda throwing it out there. If it is a M3, it looks like it is highly customized. But now I know it is not a M3.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:10, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

I don't think we'll be able to tell just from this. It looks almost like a custom mockup built around a real weapon. Hell, considering the unusual trigger, box-shaped suppressor, and various almost unrecognizable bits and pieces, it could very well be a completely inert prop with CGI firing. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 20:36, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

It could be a prototype weapon where the design has not been released to the general public. Otherwise, it is just a complete custom mockup.--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 21:40, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

:Um, if the general public don't know about it then how is a movie director going to ask for one? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:59, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

looking at the bolt area and where the stock attaches, my money would be on it being a PGM Ultima Ratio, obviously heavily mocked up, but impossible to say for sure without more pics - TheSpannaMunkee

this rifle appears visually similar to the AMSD OM 50 Nemesis with a large amount of visual modification [[User:LachlanDMcCahon|LachlanDMcCahon]] ([[User talk:LachlanDMcCahon|talk]]) 01:54, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

== Additional images to be Id'ed ==

These are some more images from the trailer. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:16, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

In order: 1. Bond's PPK, which he promptly reloads

2. I assume his HK416 during his house shootout

3. The strange mock-up seen above

4. A Glock, or possibly a SIG? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 01:51, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

[[File:SkyF 1002.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1003.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SkyF 1005.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:I'm hoping the gun in that last image is a P99 [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]
::Number 4 isn't a Glock and I don't think it's a SIG either, it looks to have a slide mounted safety like a Beretta 92FS but the front profile makes me think it's some sort of Browning variant. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:22, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

The gun on the last picture looks like a P99 to me...But a 92FS isn't a crazy thought, maybe he picked it up from a Silva tug or something..

I'm inclined to think either Browning or 1911 variant --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:07, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:I reckon it's probably some sort of Browning or 1911 variant, the frame looks too long to be a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:48, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
I've taken a new screencap of the silhouette of the strange SMG thing he has, the best I could find. It looks vaguely like the silhouette of a MAT-49, though I doubt that's what it is. Hope it helps nonetheless: http://i49.tinypic.com/359ecl3.png [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 17:43, 22 May 2012 (CDT)
:Look a couble of sections up and you will see a cap of it in the light, where you can see it is actually cuilt on (if anything) a bolt action rifle. What you are seeing as a long SMG magazine is a cosmetic thing stuck on the weapon which appears to be folded forward for storage. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:05, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

You know, i guess it's maybe a H&K USP because it looks like it so much
:Number 4 could be a HK USP actually. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
Haha, someone who's agreed with me ;)
:Sign your posts though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:42, 24 May 2012 (CDT)
All right, will do. --[[User:Walther_arms|walther_arms]]

Picture No. 4 is a Glock 17;there are a number of newly released stills that confirm this. Apparently Bond disarms the guy pointing one at him inthe percussion cap dueler photo and winds up aiming at(or maybe shooting) somebody with a 2 handed hold.
The dueler is almost certainly a Pedersoli repro of a LePage dueling pistol.

Regards,

Tecolote

Should there be a page made for Ola Rapace? The actor fighting bond wielding the converted Glock 17 and the unknowne Sub-Machine Gun?-Bravejoker

== trailer weapons ==

seen the new trailer bad guy seems to have custom take down sniper rifle fits with the mytos of the films allso looks like bond goes back to the p99 all i have seen is a bad blurry image but the trigger guard is defeniatly not a ppk jump in any one who can clear this up--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:49, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

ok the courtyard gun in the trailer 1 got a better look at it seems to be a glock 17 --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 15:46, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgr2syY_OU4&feature=youtu.be --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 09:58, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

:Awesome!! Just wanted to point out that there is also a slightly different US version, also viewable on the jamesbond007 channel on YouTube. I don't know about you guys, but I think this has some serious potential...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:54, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== Signature Walther PPK ==

a pistol Signature gun that only 007 can use did they not use this in license to kill in 1989 at least they upgraded the caliber to .380 acp (9mm x 17mm short) which is slightly better than the .32 acp (7.65x17mm) that was used in the books and films--[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 14:51, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

Kinda. In License to Kill it was a sniper rifle disguised as a camera that was the gun that required a palm scan, not the Walther PPK [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 19:16, 31 July 2012 (CDT)

== "12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun" ==

I've read that this is "Anderson Wheeler 500 Nitro Double Rifle" (source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465931593424952&set=a.430960320255413.102948.154596811225100&type=1&theater ); may it be true?
[[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 17:43, 2 August 2012 (CEST)
:I remember an article about a set visit where they were talking about the fact that the big bad in this film is fond of antique British weapons and uses percussion pistols and a .500 Nitro Express rifle, so that ID might be right. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:59, 2 August 2012 (CDT)
::I've changed the identification, since you are probably correct. For those who are interested, here is the company website: [http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/double_rifle.php Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle] --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== Trailer ==

I watched the new trailer this morning, and at the bit when Bond meets Q, I swear I could have heard Q saying the PPK is infact a PPK/S. Could be wrong, but did anyone else notice this? [[User:Fixer|Fixer]]

:Yeah, it was even mentioned on the main page of Skyfall. I think it could definitely be a blued PPK/S based on the grip size. Can someone who knows PPKs better than I do confirm this?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:13, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

::Am I the only one who thinks that there might be a sort of shooting competition between Bond and Silva? I mean, look at the main page, where the P99 and the Flintlock pistols are. Bond is wearing the same suit, the background is the same and it's the same time of day. Just some food for thought --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 02:34, 3 August 2012 (CDT).
:::I don't think that's a P99, it could be the Glock that he has pointed at his head in the screenshot with Silva firing the Flintlock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 10:24, 3 August 2012 (CDT)

Ive taken a close look at the screen cap of Ola Rapace firing the Glock and if you look close enough it appears there is a selector switch on the side, meaning it could be a genuine Glock 18. -Bravejoker

==Just seen it==
Having just seen the film, I can happily say there were plenty of gunfights and we'll be spoilt for choice when screencapping it. There were so many closeups, especially of the PPK. Here's a list of all the guns I spotted:

* Walther PPK – used by Bond (naturally), Eve and M.
* Glock 17 – used extensively by London Met, Silva and his team when disguised as police officers. Bond definitely uses one on the island; it's not a P99.
* Glock 18 – used by Patrice during the opening scene in Turkey, first fitted with a Beta-C 100-round magazine, then standard 33-round magazines.
* Possible Steyr M9 – used by Silva during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* M4 – used by MI6 guards.
* H&K 416 – used by Silva’s men and several by Bond during the Skyfall Lodge shootout.
* H&K MP7 – used by Silva’s men on his island.
You're welcome - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:20, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

:Fairly sure the pistol Silva had at the lodge was a [[Steyr M9-A1]], the shape of the frame around the rail is pretty distinctive. I think this may have also been the pistol that was used by one of the 3 bodyguards at the Macau place with the komodo dragon pit, you see it when Eve stamps on the guys arm to stop him picking it up (I think this is what happened, can't remember the exact chain of events). Also I think Patrice uses a Glock 17 during the assassination later in the film, in the shot where he removes the suppressor it has no selector on the left side of the slide. There was also a machine gun mounted on a Merlin helicopter during the climax but didn't get a clear look at it due to it being dark and the brief shots of it. My guess is that it is an M2, or possibly an M3M, based on the mounting. Also, I think we should simply say that the Anderson Wheeler 500 NE Double Rifle is used by Bond during the films climax, anything over and above that I would consider a spoiler (at least until the film is on home release and most people will have already seen it). I still have no idea what the weird sniper rifle is, it seems like it was designed so that the case itself is part of the gun (the scope is the carry handle and the long piece at the front is the front edge of the case), but I don't see the point of having a suitcase that turns into a gun when you can just carry a suitcase with a take-down rifle in it. Still, was a great film IMHO, would highly recommend. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:09, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

::Just saw the film again on Friday and, yeah, you're right it is a Steyr M9A1, I get the two mixed up. Patrice also ditches his Glock 18 when it runs empty and uses a standard 17 during the assassination scene, like you said. Also, I spotted a Tokarev on some news footage, but the footage was paused before it was fired. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:53, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:::Are we certain that it was an actual Glock 18 as a Glock 17 is usually just converted to fire full auto than them using an actual Glock 18. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 17:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::::It definitely is, the fire selector is clearly seen when it is first used. Conversely we can be relaively certain it is replaced with a Glock 17 later on as it lacks the selector (although the shot could have been flipped, I didn't look at the ejection port). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:40, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I believe the pistol used by the third bodyguard before Eve stomps on his arm was actually a Walther P99, the rear end looked pretty similar.[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 19:41, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:Possibly, I have only seen the film once and is a very brief shot. However, at the time it struck me as a Steyr M9-A1, and if it is not then it is quite a coincidence that a definite one turns up later in the film. Also, I don't think they would include a Walther P99 in a Bond film and have Bond not use it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:01, 11 November 2012 (EST)

::No, it definitely wasn't a Walther, the front end was too tall. A Steyr is our best guess at this stage. --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 08:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Just to confirm, the MG mounted on the Merlin is an M2HB, it is visible in [http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=70141 this] VLOG about helicopter filming about 25 seconds in. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:42, 18 November 2012 (EST)

== Quick question regarding the police shootout during M's public inquiry ==

Would an armed British police officer in real life be allowed to open fire straight away on a bad guy who just suddenly bursts in and starts shooting? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 03:27, 5 January 2013 (EST)

Talk:Arrow

2013-01-04T06:23:16Z

Btgr:

Isn't Deadshot just a Batman villain? Why is he in a Green Arrow series?
:He was originally a Batman villain, but since then he has expanded and has appeared all across the DCU. He is probably best known now for the ''Suicide Squad'' and ''Secret Six'' comics, which are stand alone and are not tied to any other comic in particular, just a bunch of villains/anti-heroes doing their own morally ambiguous thing. More of a head-scratcher is the fact that they decided to make Huntress Arrows first love interest. As far as I can remember this has never happened in the comics, and its not like their is a shortage of women that Green Arrow has hooked up with that they could have chosen from. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:20, 11 December 2012 (EST)
Maybe they just didn't read their source material. I'm pretty sure Arrow dates Black Canary.

http://www.comicvine.com/news/firefly-burns-on-upcoming-episode-of-arrow/145763/

Batman villain "Firefly" has a flamethrower in an upcoming episode. --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 01:23, 4 January 2013 (EST)

Jason Statham

2012-12-30T06:26:23Z

Btgr:

[[Image:T-InoxFranka.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Jason Statham holds a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] as Frank Martin in ''[[The Transporter]]'' (2002).]]
[[Image:45Stat5.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Jason Statham aims a [[Smith & Wesson 4506]] as Ethan in ''[[Cellular]]'' (2004).]]
[[Image:CRANK2-MOSS500-1.jpg|right|thumb|450px|Jason Statham holds a [[Springfield Armory XD]] and a [[Mossberg 500]] as Chev Chelios in ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]'' (2009).]]
[[Image:The expendable-mp5k2.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Jason Statham holds a [[Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]] as Lee Christmas in ''[[The Expendables]]'' (2010).]]
[[Image:Mech11 20.jpg|right|thumb|450px|Jason Statham holds a [[Glock 17]] as Arthur Bishop in ''[[The Mechanic (2011)|The Mechanic]]'' (2011).]]
[[Image:Ex2-LeeNoveske.jpg|right|thumb|450px|Jason Statham aims a [[Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat]] as Lee Christmas in ''[[The Expendables 2]]'' (2012).]]

'''Jason Statham used the following firearms in the following films:'''

==Film==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Gun'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="225"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Double Barreled Shotgun]] || Bacon || ''[[Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels]]'' || || 1998
|-
| [[Heckler & Koch G36K]] || Sgt. Jericho Butler || ''[[Ghosts of Mars]]'' || || 2001
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] || Frank Martin || ''[[The Transporter]]'' || || 2002
|-
| [[M1911 pistol series|Bruni 8mm M1911 Blank Pistol]] || Frank Martin || ''[[The Transporter]]'' || nickel plated || 2002
|-
| [[SIG SG 552]] || Frank Martin || ''[[The Transporter]]'' || scoped || 2002
|-
| [[Smith & Wesson Model 637]] || Frank Martin || ''[[The Transporter]]'' || || 2002
|-
| [[Ruger Super Redhawk]] || Frank Martin || ''[[The Transporter]]'' || cut down barrel || 2002
|-
| [[M203 grenade launcher]] || Handsome Rob || ''[[Italian Job, The (2003)|The Italian Job]]'' || standalone model || 2003
|-
| [[Smith & Wesson 4506]] || Ethan Greer || ''[[Cellular]]'' || || 2004
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS]] || Ethan Greer || ''[[Cellular]]'' || || 2004
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] || Frank Martin || ''[[Transporter 2]]'' || akimbo in promotional material || 2005
|-
| [[Jericho 941]] || Frank Martin || ''[[Transporter 2]]'' || stainless model || 2005
|-
| [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Match|Heckler & Koch USP Match]] || Frank Martin || ''[[Transporter 2]]'' || || 2005
|-
| [[Taurus PT92]] || Jake Green || ''[[Revolver]]'' || || 2005
|-
| [[Walther PPK]] || Jake Green || ''[[Revolver]]'' || || 2005
|-
| [[Glock 17]] || Jake Green || ''[[Revolver]]'' || || 2005
|-
| [[SIG-Sauer P228]] || Det. Quentin Connors || ''[[Chaos]]'' || || 2006
|-
| [[Springfield Armory XD]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank]]'' || || 2006
|-
| [[Desert Eagle]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank]]'' || || 2006
|-
| [[Kahr K9]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank]]'' || || 2006
|-
| [[SIG-Sauer P226]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank]]'' || || 2006
|-
| [[Glock 17]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank]]'' || || 2006
|-
| [[FN Five-seveN]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank]]'' || || 2006
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank]]'' || || 2006
|-
| [[GE M134 minigun]] || Jensen Ames || ''[[Death Race]]'' || dual mounted on "The Monster" || 2008
|-
| [[M4A1 Carbine]] || Frank Martin || ''[[Transporter 3]]'' || || 2008
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] || Frank Martin || ''[[Transporter 3]]'' || akimbo in promotional material || 2008
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]'' || || 2009
|-
| [[Jericho 941]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]'' || stainless model || 2009
|-
| [[Springfield Armory XD]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]'' || Bi-Tone model || 2009
|-
| [[Desert Eagle]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]'' || flashback from ''[[Crank]]'' || 2009
|-
| [[Mossberg 500]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]'' || || 2009
|-
| [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzi]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]'' || || 2009
|-
| [[Steyr TMP#Brügger & Thomet MP9|Brügger & Thomet MP9]] || Chev Chelios || ''[[Crank: High Voltage]]'' || || 2009
|-
| [[Sphinx AT 2000#Solothurn ITM T-84 series|Solothurn ITM AT84S]] || Jasper || ''[[13]]'' || || 2010
|-
| [[Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables]]'' || fitted with KX-3 flashhiders, EMod stock, flashlight, and EOtech scope || 2010
|-
| [[Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables]]'' || fitted with red dot sight and laser pointer || 2010
|-
| [[M8 Flare Pistol]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables]]'' || || 2010
|-
| [[M67 hand grenade]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables]]'' || || 2010
|-
| [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92G Elite 1A]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables]]'' || || 2010
|-
| [[Glock 17]] || Arthur Bishop || ''[[Mechanic, The (2011)|The Mechanic]]'' || || 2011
|-
| [[Valmet Assault Rifle Series|Valmet M76F]] || Arthur Bishop || ''[[Mechanic, The (2011)|The Mechanic]]'' || || 2011
|-
| [[FN F2000#FN F2000 Tactical|FN F2000 Tactical]] || Arthur Bishop || ''[[Mechanic, The (2011)|The Mechanic]]'' || Fitted with Leupold CQ/T Scope || 2011
|-
| [[Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] || Arthur Bishop || ''[[Mechanic, The (2011)|The Mechanic]]'' || || 2011
|-
| [[Heckler & Koch USP]] || Arthur Bishop || ''[[Mechanic, The (2011)|The Mechanic]]'' || || 2011
|-
| [[Beretta 92SB]] || Danny Bryce || ''[[Killer Elite]]'' || suppressed || 2011
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS]] || Danny Bryce || ''[[Killer Elite]]'' || || 2011
|-
| [[Glock 17]] || Danny Bryce || ''[[Killer Elite]]'' || || 2011
|-
| [[SIG-Sauer P226]] || DS Tom Brant || ''[[Blitz]]'' || || 2011
|-
| [[Beretta Px4 Storm]] || Luke Wright || ''[[Safe]]'' || || 2012
|-
| [[Beretta 92FS]] || Luke Wright || ''[[Safe]]'' || || 2012
|-
| [[TiSAS Zigana]] || Luke Wright || ''[[Safe]]'' || Chrome FS9 Sport || 2012
|-
| [[TDI Vector]] || Luke Wright || ''[[Safe]]'' || || 2012
|-
| [[SIG-Sauer P226|SIG-Sauer P226 SCT]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables 2]]'' || || 2012
|-
| [[Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables 2]]'' || various attachments || 2012
|-
| [[M4A1]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables 2]]'' || with [[M26 MASS]] || 2012
|-
| [[FN MAG]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables 2]]'' || || 2012
|-
| [[Browning M2]] || Lee Christmas || ''[[The Expendables 2]]'' || || 2012
|-
|}

[[Category:Actor]]
[[Category:Actor Male]]

Talk:Jason Statham

2012-12-30T06:22:21Z

Btgr: Blanked the page

Talk:AK-74

2012-12-27T08:34:13Z

Btgr: /* Discussion */

==Additional Images==

[[Image:Ak74p.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Prototype AK-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:Wz.88 Tantal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Polish Wz.88 Tantal - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:Mpiaks74nk.jpg|thumb|none|400px|East German Mpi-AKS-74NK - 5.45x39mm]]
[[File:AKS74U-RIS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U with a RIS handguard - 5.45x39mm. This is an actual movie gun from the inventory of Weapons Specialists, Ltd. in New York.]]
[[Image:AKS-74UN.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74UN with NSPU Night Vision scope - 5.45x39mm The AKS-74UN is equipped with a side-mounted rail above the trigger for attaching scopes.]]

==Discussion==
Did anyone ever make a synthetic handguard for the AKS-74u with picatinny rails on it? I'd like to see somethin like that. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 23:42, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Eh, though I dont share your enthusiasm on it, they do. There's a picture on here some where of an AKSU picatinny kit. Its on the AK-47 page I believe.

Thanks.

:You'd be surprised, but the name AK-47 had arrived in Russia from the USA. In the USSR, he had the name just "AK". AK was adopted by the Soviet army in 1949 (not in 1947!!!). Where did the index of 47 - probably only know American journalists. But since the 1990's now even in Russia, it has name is AK-47. [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 16:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, same with Mosin-Nagant. It's painful to see that in all games, even in MGS3. The rifle's name was just Mosin M91 or M91/30. Never "Mosin-Nagant".

Dare to say, it is rifle model 1891/1930 =) and so on, sniper rifle 1891/1931, carbine model 1944...

It's really surprising that while contributors are so precise and thorough with AR15/M16 variants, there is little info on AK variants on this Wiki. Considering that at least Soviet/Russian mods are few and widely documented, it would be only fair. For example, the lower receiver on AK and AKS looks remarkably different (I don't have the expertise to point out exactly how, though I can check in Russian sources and deliver), but it is neglected by their descriptions. Of course, the original milled varieties are almost non-existent in movies, but still.

Quick question, did the Vietnamese People's Army used AK-74s and AKS-74Us during the Cambodian-Vietnamese War and the Vietnamese border raids in Thailand? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 02:34, 27 December 2012 (EST)

== AK-74M ==

Am I the only one who doesn't like the new AK-74M pic? It seems out of place, as it shows the right side of the weapon and "almost" all the other AK pics show the left side. :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 20:37, 17 August 2011 (CDT)

Talk:AK-74

2012-12-27T07:34:44Z

Btgr:

==Additional Images==

[[Image:Ak74p.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Prototype AK-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:Wz.88 Tantal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Polish Wz.88 Tantal - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:Mpiaks74nk.jpg|thumb|none|400px|East German Mpi-AKS-74NK - 5.45x39mm]]
[[File:AKS74U-RIS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U with a RIS handguard - 5.45x39mm. This is an actual movie gun from the inventory of Weapons Specialists, Ltd. in New York.]]
[[Image:AKS-74UN.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74UN with NSPU Night Vision scope - 5.45x39mm The AKS-74UN is equipped with a side-mounted rail above the trigger for attaching scopes.]]

==Discussion==
Did anyone ever make a synthetic handguard for the AKS-74u with picatinny rails on it? I'd like to see somethin like that. [[User:That's One Angry Duck|That's One Angry Duck]] 23:42, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Eh, though I dont share your enthusiasm on it, they do. There's a picture on here some where of an AKSU picatinny kit. Its on the AK-47 page I believe.

Thanks.

:You'd be surprised, but the name AK-47 had arrived in Russia from the USA. In the USSR, he had the name just "AK". AK was adopted by the Soviet army in 1949 (not in 1947!!!). Where did the index of 47 - probably only know American journalists. But since the 1990's now even in Russia, it has name is AK-47. [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 16:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, same with Mosin-Nagant. It's painful to see that in all games, even in MGS3. The rifle's name was just Mosin M91 or M91/30. Never "Mosin-Nagant".

Dare to say, it is rifle model 1891/1930 =) and so on, sniper rifle 1891/1931, carbine model 1944...

It's really surprising that while contributors are so precise and thorough with AR15/M16 variants, there is little info on AK variants on this Wiki. Considering that at least Soviet/Russian mods are few and widely documented, it would be only fair. For example, the lower receiver on AK and AKS looks remarkably different (I don't have the expertise to point out exactly how, though I can check in Russian sources and deliver), but it is neglected by their descriptions. Of course, the original milled varieties are almost non-existent in movies, but still.

Quick question, did the Vietnamese People's Army used AK-74s and AKS-74Us during the Cambodian-Vietnamese War? --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 02:34, 27 December 2012 (EST)

== AK-74M ==

Am I the only one who doesn't like the new AK-74M pic? It seems out of place, as it shows the right side of the weapon and "almost" all the other AK pics show the left side. :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 20:37, 17 August 2011 (CDT)

Ruger 10/22

2012-11-26T09:44:29Z

Btgr: /* Specifications */

[[Image:Ruger10 22.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Ruger 10/22 (Pre 2005 model) - .22 Long Rifle.]]
[[Image:Ruger1022.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Ruger 10/22 (Post 2005 model) - .22 Long Rifle. Ruger made a series of changes to the rifle to make it more 'economical' i.e. cheaper finish & wood on the stock and changes in trigger assembly and sights.]]
[[Image:Ruger1022-black.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Ruger 10/22 - .22 Long Rifle]]
The Ruger 10/22 is a very popular sporting weapon, named based on its .22 caliber and 10 round magazine capacity (however it can take a variety of high capacity aftermarket magazines). The gun is very popular in customization and many after market parts can be bought to customize the rifle. Heavily customized models have been used in many marksmanship competitions. The Ruger 10/22 is currently available in .22 Long Rifle, formerly available in .22 Magnum and .17 HMR. (10/22 magnum and 10/17) but no longer. Rimfire magnum models were discontinued in 2006 due to disappointing sales. As they did for the Mini-14, Sturm Ruger & Co. changed the 10/22 in 2005, offering a cheaper matte blued finish on the barrel and changing out the trigger guard from metal to plastic as well as a few other cosmetic differences.

The Ruger 10/22 has been used in covert military operations around the world, usually as a dedicated Suppressed rifle. With subsonic ammunition, the suppressed shots from the 10/22 are essentially silent. The only sound you hear is the action racking back and forth. The IDF routinely carried suppressed and scoped Ruger 10/22s during the years of the "Intifada" in the West Bank and other places. The IDF snipers would "kneecap" the rioters' ringleaders from a distance, as crippling them was seen as preferable to killing them with conventional sniper rifles.
== Specifications ==

''(1964 - present)''

'''Type:''' Semi-automatic rifle

'''Length:''' 37 in (940 mm)

'''Weight:''' 5.25 lb (2.4 kg)

'''Caliber:''' .22 LR

'''Capacity:''' 10-round rotary box magazine

'''Fire Modes:''' "safe", "semi-auto"

----

'''The Ruger 10/22 has been used in the following films:'''

==Film==

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Stone Cold (2005)|Stone Cold]] '' || [[Tom Selleck]] || Jesse Stone || || 2005
|-
| ''[[Shotgun Stories]]'' || [[Lynnsee Provence]] || Stephen Hayes || || 2007
|-
| ''[[Shotgun Stories]]'' || [[Michael Abbott Jr.]] || Cleamen Hayes || || 2007
|-
| ''[[Halloween (2007)]]'' || || || Seen in the gun racks of a retail gun store || 2007
|-
| ''[[Day of the Dead (2008)|Day of the Dead ]]'' || || || Seen in the gun racks of a retail gun store || 2008
|-
| ''[[Bernie (2011) |Bernie ]]'' || [[Jack Black]] || Bernie Tiede || || 2011
|-
|}

==Television==

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note/Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[CSI: Miami]]'' || [[David Keith]] || Evan Caldwell || fitted with Hogue stock, portrayed as a "high powered rifle", "Resurrection" (S07E01) || 2008
|-
|''[[Saving Grace]]'' || || || ||
|-
|''[[Top Shot - Season 3]]''|| || || Volquartsen I-Fluted Rimfire Rifle, "Tricked Out" (S03E07)|| 2011
|-
|}
 
=See Also=
* [[Ruger]] - A list of all firearms manufactured by Ruger.
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]

Blank Fire Only Guns

2012-11-25T19:41:32Z

Btgr: /* Trivia */

This page lists the various blank fire only guns which are not a direct copy of an actual live firearm (for replica blank fire only weapons please refer to the page for the gun on which it is based).

'''The following blank fire only weapons can be found in the following movies and television series:'''

=Pistols=
==Blow F06==
[[File:BlowF06.jpg|401px|thumb|right|Blow F06 - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
[[File:Blow F06 nickel.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Blow F06 with nickel finish - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="75"|'''Date'''

|-
| ''[[Hooked 2. Next Level (Na Igre 2. Novyy Uroven)|Hooked 2. Next Level]]'' || [[Sergey Chirkov]] || Vampire ||Nickel finish|| 2010
|-
| ''[[Hooked 2. Next Level (Na Igre 2. Novyy Uroven)|Hooked 2. Next Level]]'' || [[Nodar Siradze]] || Yan ||Nickel finish|| 2010
|-
|}
 

==Bruni Olympic 5==
[[File:Bruni Olympic 38 black.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Bruni Olympic 5 with black finish - .380 blanks]]
[[File:Bruni Olympic 38 nickel.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Bruni Olympic 5 with nickel finish - .380 blanks]]

The '''Olympic 5''', also known as the '''Olympic 38''', is a snub-nose blank-firing single/double action revolver that is often used as a starter pistol and for dog training manufactured by the Italian company Bruni who specialise in replica firearms. It uses .380 blank cartridges, has a 5 round cylinder and is available with either black or nickel finishes.

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="75"|'''Date'''

|-
| ''[[Cry_Wolf]]'' || || "The Wolf" || Nickel finish with black grips|| 2005
|-
|}

===Trivia===
This revolver is banned in the UK as of the 4th June 2010, due to it being deemed readily convertible into a live firing revolver. A converted Bruni Olympic was the weapon that was being carried by the drug dealer and gang member Mark Duggan when he was fatally shot by British police on the 4th August 2011. This incident led to initially peacefull protests which escalated into nationwide rioting, looting and arson.
 

==Bruni Olympic 6==
[[Image:Olympic6_1.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Bruni Olympic 6 with composite grips - .22 blanks]]
[[Image:Olympic6_2.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Bruni Olympic 6 with wooden grips - .22 blanks]]

The '''Olympic 6''' is a snub-nose blank-firing single/double action revolver that is often used as a starter pistol and for dog training manufactured by the Italian company Bruni who specialise in replica firearms. It uses .22/6mm blank cartridges, has an 8 round cylinder and is available with either wood or composite grips.

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="75"|'''Date'''

|-
| rowspan="2"|''[[Razor Blade Smile]]'' || [[Jonathan Coote]] || Detective Inspector Price || rowspan="2"|Black plastic grip|| rowspan="2"|1998
|-
| [[Louisa Moore]] || Silk
|-
|}

===Trivia===
In Russia, on 14th of September in 2008, in the city of Izhevsk, the militsia (police) confiscated an Olympic 6 modified to be fire live .22 caliber rounds (most likely using bullets from a TOZ-8 target rifle). This is unusual, as the Olympic 6 is considered very difficult to be rebuilt as an actual weapon.''
 

==Harrington & Richardson STR022==
[[File:Harrington & Richardson STR022.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Harrington & Richardson STR022 - .22 Short blanks]]
The '''Harrington & Richardson STR022''' is a starter pistol which can be differentiated from the later New England Firearms marketed pistols by its complete frame, as opposed to the NEF pistols which lack the front portion of the frame. The barrel of the pistol is actually a solid rod, where the rear of it is formed into a cone which is designed to deflect the sound and flash of the pistol out the sides of the frame, immediately ahead of the cylinder.

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="75"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[The Sopranos]]'' || || Swimming match referee || "Bust Out" (S02E10)|| 1999 - 2007
|-
|}
 

==New England Firearms Model B22==
[[File:NEF Model B22.jpg|thumb|401px|right|New England Firearms Model B22 - .22 Short blanks]]
The '''NEF Model B22''' is a starter pistol based on the earlier Harrington & Richardson STR022. It is nickel plated, and features a purely cosmetic barrel which is actually a solid rod of metal. The sound and flash of the gun escapes directly from the front of the cylinder, as can clearly be seen by the carbon deposits of the revolver shown here.

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
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|-
| ''[[Sea of Love]]'' || [[Al Pacino]] || Frank Keller|| || 1989
|-
|}
 

==Zoraki 914==
[[File:Zoraki-mod-914.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Zoraki 914 with black finish - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
[[File:Zoraki 914 satin chrome.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Zoraki 914 with satin chrome finish - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
The Zoraki 914 is a blank firing pistol widespread in Eastern European countries (especially Hungary) because of gun ownership laws. It is capable of both semi and fully automatic fire and is chambered with 9mm P.A.K. blanks. The standard magazine holds 14 rounds, but the pistol also accepts the extended 25 round magazine designed for the [[Zoraki 925]]. It is available in a large number of finishes and with wood or plastic grips.

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="75"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Darkest Hour, The|Darkest Hour]]'' || [[Veronika Vernadskaya]] || Vika|| || 2011
|-
|}

===Television===
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|-
| ''[[Nikita (2010)|Nikita]]'' || [[Maggie Q]] || Nikita||Black and chrome version, used with 14 round magazines when standing in for a pistol and 25 round magazines when depicted as a machine pistol || 2010 - ????
|}
 

==Zoraki 925==
[[Image:Zoraki 925.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Zoraki 925 with standard 16 round magazine - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
[[Image:Zoraki925 1.jpg|thumb|right|401px|Zoraki 925 fitted with barrel extension and high capacity 25 round magazine - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
The Zoraki 925 is a blank firing pistol widespread in Eastern European countries (especially Hungary) because of gun ownership laws. It is capable of both semi and fully automatic fire and is chambered with 9mm P.A.K. blanks fed from a 16 or 25 round magazines. It has been used in several low-budget movies filmed in those countries.

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="75"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Universal Soldier: Regeneration]]'' || [[Jean-Claude Van Damme]] || Luc Deveraux|| With 25 round magazine and barrel extension|| 2009
|-
| ''[[Direct Contact]]'' || || Thug || || 2009
|-
| ''[[Icarus]]'' || [[Dolph Lundgren]] || Icarus|| || 2010
|-
| ''[[Hooked 2. Next Level (Na Igre 2. Novyy Uroven)|Hooked 2. Next Level]]'' || [[Sergey Chirkov]] || Vampire ||with 25 round magazine || 2010
|-
| ''[[Hooked 2. Next Level (Na Igre 2. Novyy Uroven)|Hooked 2. Next Level]]'' || [[Pavel Priluchnyy]] || Doc ||with 25 round magazine || 2010
|-
| ''[[Hooked 2. Next Level (Na Igre 2. Novyy Uroven)|Hooked 2. Next Level]]'' || [[Nodar Siradze]] || Yan ||with 25 round magazine || 2010
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="75"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Torchwood]]'' || [[John Barrowman]] || Cpt. Jack Harkness|| With barrel extension || 2006 - ????
|-
| ''[[Human Target]]'' |||| Assassin|| With 25 round magazine and slotted flash hider || 2010 - 2011
|-
| ''[[Nikita]]'' ||[[Maggie Q]]|| Nikita|| With 25 round magazine || 2010 - ????
|-
|}
 

==Zoraki M906==
[[File:Zoraki-906.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Zoraki M906 - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
===Specifications===
*'''Type:''' Blank firing pistol

*'''Caliber:''' 9mm P.A.K. blanks

* '''Weight:''' 465g

* '''Length:''' 143mm

* '''Barrel length:''' 71mm

*'''Capacity:''' 6-round magazine

*'''Fire Modes:''' DA/SA Semi-automatic

===Television===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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|-
|''[[Nikita (2010)|Nikita]]'' || [[Lyndsy Fonseca]] || Alexandra "Alex" Udinov || || 2010 - ????
|-
|}
 

=Submachine Guns=
==Blow Crazy==
[[File:BLOW CRAZY.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Blow Crazy - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
The '''Blow Crazy''' is a blank firing select fire submachine gun which is loosely based on the [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]].
===Film===
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|-
| ''[[Hooked 2. Next Level (Na Igre 2. Novyy Uroven)|Hooked 2. Next Level]]'' || [[Nodar Siradze]]|| Yan |||| 2010
|-
| ''[[Hooked 2. Next Level (Na Igre 2. Novyy Uroven)|Hooked 2. Next Level]]'' || [[Pavel Priluchnyy]]|| Doc |||| 2010
|-
|}

 

==Ekol ASI Uzi==
[[File:ASI UZI.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Ekol ASI Uzi - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
Also known as the '''Voltran Ekol Uzi''', the '''Ekol ASI Uzi''' is a Turkish blank firing select fire submachine gun which is loosely based on the [[IMI Uzi]]. It can feed from flush fitting 15 round or extended 25 round magazines.
===Film===
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|-
| ''[[Hooked 2. Next Level (Na Igre 2. Novyy Uroven)|Hooked 2. Next Level]]'' || || || 25 round magazine|| 2010
|-
|}

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[[Category:Pistol]]
[[Category:Machine Pistol]]
[[Category:Revolver]]
[[Category:Submachine Gun]]
[[Category:Less-Than Lethal]]

Skyfall

2012-11-25T04:46:14Z

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|director = [[:Category:Sam Mendes|Sam Mendes]]
|date= 2012 
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|studio= MGM
|distributor= Columbia
|character1=[[James Bond]]
|actor1=[[Daniel Craig]]
|character2=Raoul Silva
|actor2=[[Javier Bardem]]
|character3=Gareth Mallory
|actor3=[[Ralph Fiennes]]
|character4=Eve
|actor4=[[Naomie Harris]]
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'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' marks the 23rd entry in the official [[James Bond]] film series. [[Daniel Craig]] returns as Agent 007, who questions his loyality to his superior while dealing with the consequences of her past actions when MI6 is attacked. Agent 007 must track down and destroy the threat, however personal the cost. The 2012 film was directed by [[:Category:Sam Mendes|Sam Mendes]], who previously directed Craig in ''[[Road to Perdition]]''. The cast includes [[Javier Bardem]], [[Ralph Fiennes]], and [[Naomie Harris]] in addition to Judi Dench.

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=Handguns=

==Walther PPK/S==
[[James Bond]] ([[Daniel Craig]]) appears to carry the [[Walther PPK]] as his main sidearm in the film. Field Agent Eve ([[Naomie Harris]]) also is seen using a PPK. Bond has carried the PPK since ''[[Dr. No]]'' until the first half of ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]'' where he switched his sidearm to the [[Walther P99]]. However, since ''[[Quantum of Solace]]'', Bond appears to have switched back to the PPK. Q ([[Ben Whishaw]]) calls the pistol a "PPK/S nine-millimeter short" and states that the gun is coded to Bond's palm print so that only he could fire it. After losing the palm print reading model in Macau, Bond carries a regular PPK when back in the UK. It is later used by M ([[Judi Dench]]) in the finale when Silva's men attack Skyfall Lodge.

[[File:PPKS blued.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther PPK/S]]
[[Image:SkyfallPPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|James Bond holds the Walther PPK when pursuing Patrice in Shanghai.]]
[[File:SkyF 1001.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bond opens fire with his PPK at M's Public Inquiry when Silva attacks it.]]
[[Image:SkyFall-Tower-Chase-Bond-PPK.jpg|400px|thumb|none|A picture from the set, showing James Bond during a foot chase at Tower Hill.]]
[[Image:B23-03359-r-jpg_221011.jpg|thumb|none|500px|James Bond wielding the PPK in a shootout.]]
[[Image:Naomie.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Production image of Field Agent Eve ([[Naomie Harris]]) firing the PPK.]]
[[File:Skyfall-eve-ppk.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Promotional image of Eve holding a Walther PPK/S.]]
[[File:SkyF-pistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bond inspects the PPK, which has custom grips.]]
[[File:SkyF-pistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The PPK's special indicator flashes green, allowing Bond to use the gun.]]

==Glock 17==
[[Glock 17]]s are used by numerous characters including James Bond ([[Daniel Craig]]), Gareth Mallory ([[Ralph Fiennes]]) and various henchmen. They are also the standard pistol carried by SCO19 Firearms Officers in London and armed police officers at M's ([[Judi Dench]]) public inquiry. Raoul Silva ([[Javier Bardem]]) and his crew use Glock 17's while disguised as police officers.

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Glock 17 (3rd Generation) - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Skyfall-20120411105930324_640w.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gareth Mallory ([[Ralph Fiennes]]) picks up a Glock 17 from a police officer shot by Silva ([[Javier Bardem]]) and opens fire.]]
[[File:SkyF-pistol-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Silva holds a Glock.]]
[[File:SkyF 1005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|James Bond ([[Daniel Craig]]) aiming a Glock 17.]]
[[Image:Skyfall Glock17 CO19.jpg|thumb|none|350px|An SCO19 police officer has a [[Glock 17]] in his thigh holster (circled in red).]]
[[file:Skyfall_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|350px|James Bond ([[Daniel Craig]]) firing a disarmed henchman's Glock 17.]]

==Glock 18C==
Patrice ([[Ola Rapace]]) is seen shooting a [[Glock 18|Glock 18C]] loaded with "depleted uranium" rounds at Bond and Eve in Turkey. He initially uses a 100-round Beta-C drum magazine, but later switches to extended 33-round ones during the train chase. In Shanghai Patrice uses the Glock in semi-auto and supressed.

[[Image:Glock18c_01-1-.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Glock 18C (3rd Generation) - 9x19mm. This model has compensator cuts on the slide and barrel to reduce muzzle climb while firing]]
[[File:SkyF-pistol-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Patrice fires the Glock in full auto (note the multiple shell casings).]]

==Percussion pistol==
Silva fires a Percussion Cap Pistol, while Bond looks on at gunpoint. Bond also uses one in the same scene.

[[File:SkyF-pistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Silva fires the pistol while Bond looks on at gunpoint.]]

==Steyr M9-A1==
Raoul Silva ([[Javier Bardem]]) carries a [[Steyr M9-A1]] during the climax of the film. A Steyr M9-A1 is also briefly seen being used by a henchman at the Macau casino.

[[File:SteyrM9A1.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Steyr M9-A1 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Skyfall-raoul-silva.jpeg|thumb|300px|none|Promotional image of Raoul Silva holding a Steyr M9A1.]]

=Assault Rifles & Carbines=
==Heckler & Koch HK416 D10RS==
Raoul Silva's henchmen use [[Heckler & Koch HK416]] assault rifles during the during their attack on Bond's ancestral home, Skyfall Lodge. Two are also used by James Bond ([[Daniel Craig]]) after disarming multiple henchmen in the same scene.

[[File:HK416 current.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch HK416 D10RS with 10.4 inch barrel - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Bond_M4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|James Bond firing the HK416.]]
[[File:SkyF 1002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:Bond_416.jpg|thumb|none|550px|James Bond ([[Daniel Craig]]) takes cover, loading a second HK416.]]

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
SCO19 officers from the Metropolitan Police Service are seen holding [[Heckler & Koch G36C]] rifles while patrolling Westminster station.

[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Skyfall_G36C.jpg|thumb|300px|none|An SCO19 officer from the Metropolitan Police Service holding the [[Heckler & Koch G36C]] rifle.]]

==Olympic Arms K23B==
Eve uses what appears to be an [[Olympic Arms K23B]] (or another short-barreled AR15 derivative) with a scope during a train chase sequence in Turkey.

[[Image:Full-k23b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Olympic Arms K23B - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:SkyF-rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eve takes aim.]]
[[File:Skyfall-eve1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Production image of Agent Eve with a Olympic Arms K23B.]]

==M4A1 Carbine==
MI6 Security Officers stationed at the agency's underground backup headquarters carry [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4A1 carbines]].

[[File:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Colt M4A1 with 6 position collapsible stock - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:M4skyfall.jpg|thumb|300px|none|An MI6 Security Officer stands guard outside the entrance to the underground headquarters.]]

=Submachine Guns=

==Heckler and Koch MP7A1==
Two of Silva's henchmen at the abandoned island carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP7|Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] submachine gun.

[[Image:H&K MP71A1.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 with factory magazine and iron sights - 4.6x30mm]]

=Sniper Rifles=
==Unknown Sniper Rifle==
Patrice ([[Ola Rapace]]) uses a sniper rifle of unknown origin when assassinating a target in Shanghai. The rifle has a block suppressor and appears to fire semi-automatically despite being a bolt-action.

[[File:Skyfall sniper rifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:SkyF 1003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=Shotguns=
==Anderson Wheeler 500 NE Double Rifle==
During the assault on Skyfall Lodge, Bond uses his deceased father's Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle chambered in .500 Nitro Express. Anderson Wheeler is a London-based maker of luxury rifles and shotguns whose custom made double rifles are also available in calibers from .375 to .600. Bond's depiction of recoil is akin to that of a nail gun, despite the mammoth cartridge.

[[File:WestleyRichardsSidelock.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Modern Sidelock Double Rifle - .500 Nitro]]
[[File:SkyF-shotgun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bond fires the 500 NE.]]

==Colt Model 1878==
Mr. Kincade ([[Albert Finney]]), gamekeeper of the Skyfall Estate carries a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Colt Model 1878]] shotgun. In preperation for impending the attack on Skyfall Lodge, he saws down the barrel to achieve greater spread.

[[File:Colt1878.jpg|thumb|none|500px| Colt Model 1878 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[File:Skyfall-kincade.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Production image of Kincade holding his Model 1878.]]

=Machine Guns=

==Aston Martin Machine Guns==
Bond utilizes machine guns mounted underneath the lights of his customized DB5 when Silva's men attempt to storm Skyfall Lodge.

==Browning M2HB==
A [[Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun mounted on an Agusta-Westland AW101 helicopter is used by Silva's henchmen to shoot up Skyfall Lodge.

[[File:BrowningM2 plain.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB - .50 BMG]]

=Other=

==AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade==

Silva tosses [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade|AN/M14 incendiary grenades]] into Skyfall Lodge during the climax.

[[Image:AN-M14_Incendiary_Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]

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