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Talk:Killing Floor 2

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== Exact model of Beretta 92? ==

Gameplay video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LeDvDdadxQ

Could somebody determine what Beretta is used there? Is it M9A1 like in the first game? At first I even thought that the trigger guard is rounded, indicating it's not F/FS, but then I realized that it was the flashlight that hid the guard's shape.

The presence of the rail indicates that it's not usual 92F/FS, but it lacks checkered back strap: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36389920/ShareX/2015-04/2015-04-09_00-58-18.jpg

UPD: probably it's 92 Compact With Rail, a shortened M9A1 version.

First off, please put your name on these, and second, I'm fairly sure it's a M9A1 with a Brigadier-style barrel. --[[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 00:42 10 April 2015 (EST).

:I got it. Are you sure it's a M9A1? It has got the usual trigger guard from 92FS/M9 and it looks short. --[[User:Blondie|Blondie]] ([[User talk:Blondie|talk]]) 14:26, 10 April 2015 (EDT)

Fairly certain it is a M9A1. The trigger guard is the same as a normal M9A1, just hard to see courtesy of the tac-light mounted on the front rail. As for it looking short, it's probably been modeled with a Brigadier-style barrel, which are usually flush with the front of the slide. --[[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 19:05, 10 April 2015 (EST).

:I respect your opinion, but. First, weapon icon shows M9-style trigger guard: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36389920/ShareX/2015-04/2015-04-11_02-32-30.png
:Second, I'm also fairly certain that it's thin M9 trigger guard on the actual in-game model: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36389920/ShareX/2015-04/2015-04-11_02-36-43.jpg
:If you look closely, flashlight doesn't cover trigger guard that much to distort its shape.
:Anyway, it's not the proof that the gun is not M9A1, I also added it in article as M9A1 as the most possible variant. We'll have to wait for the release to tell for sure. :3
:And the gun lacks M9A1 checkered back strap too.--[[User:Blondie|Blondie]] ([[User talk:Blondie|talk]]) 19:46, 10 April 2015 (EDT)

:: First off, I don't believe we allow the weapon's icon to enter into discussion of what the actual player-held weapon is (as many times in games they don't match up with each other), so whatever the icon is is irrelevant in this instance. Next, it should be noted that, even by this stage with HD graphics, video game weapons can't and likely won't be able to exactly precisely emulate a real world firearm 100%, for a number of reasons, and therefore it's possible we can't and won't ever get a 'exact' model' ID. We often don't get 'exact IDs' for films or TV shows that actually have real weapons and not renderings, again, for a number of reasons. Omission or switching of features, like the lack of a backstrap checkering, trigger guard shape, slide design etc, definitely shouldn't be so scrutinized in a video game, especially when we're talking pre-release. Such details might still remain to be finalized, and otherwise could likely be mere oversights and/or liberties taken on the weapon's look by the game's artists. Since we have such a mismatch of details - rail and front and rear slide serrations of M9A1, M9/92FS trigger guard, the one image and images on the main page seem to have a [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier|Brigadier]] slide while the other here on the talk page has an M9A1 slide, and flush barrel with the slide, no backstrap checkering - We simply won't be able to make an exact ID since there's no Beretta that matches that exact configuration from the factory as far as I know. Not to sound snobby, but again, I think this is being over-thought a bit. If this were a real weapon, it might be worthy of speculating, as they would have be physical changes to an actual weapon, but a rendering in a video game? Especially for a game that hasn't even released yet? Bah. I'd go about listing it as we would on film/TV pages - List it as what it matches best (in this case, an M9A1) and note all the features and their particular distinctions/differences as part of the section's writeup and leave it at that for the time being. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:26, 10 April 2015 (EDT)

::: Yeah, I think we should leave it to be listed at M9A1 and note all these small discrepancies. But there was a moment when I thought that the gun was not M9A1 (indicated by the rail) with wrong backstrap checkering, trigger guard shape, slide design, but M9/92FS with wrong presence of the rail, but correct M9/92FS features in all other respects.--[[User:Blondie|Blondie]] ([[User talk:Blondie|talk]]) 10:52, 11 April 2015 (EDT)

== PaperCake's minor edits ==

Why remove useful info? Most of PaperCake's small corrections are a nice touch, but

1. Why replace "Performing an ammo check" to "he player peers at the M9A1's magazine before loading it in", while in reality it's an actual ammo check, not a usual reloading. A unique animation is played when played tries to reload a gun with already full magazine. This feature is present in many Tripwire projects and it is one of their trade marks. I think it's worth mentioning, not a lot of games have got such details.

2. Why remove notes about M9A1? While I won't argue it should be listed as M9A1, I added several comparisons with the same gun from the first game and with real M9A1. I always enjoyed such things when I was reading IMFDB before.

3. Why remove explanation about "SA80" part in L85A2 in-game name? As I recall, IMFDB always had a policy to mention wrong or redundant in-game gun names. I just tried to be in keeping with local standards of writing, which encourage noticing and explaining small details and drawbacks.

4. Why add "A player begins to reload his L85A2" when it's not a reloading animation, but draw animation?

5. Why remove explanation that Colt 9mm SMG is not a rifle, but a submachinegun. I've read a '''lot''' of articles here and the IMFDB always had a policy to explain wrong assigned weapon class in the game, especially with AKS-74U or 9mm AR-15 derivatives.

I don't mind the style, but minor corrections shouldn't tear out so much useful info. Since I'm a new guy, and PaperCake seems to have been here quite long time, I don't want to just undo his changes, but I think we should discuss it and restore some info.--[[User:Blondie|Blondie]] ([[User talk:Blondie|talk]]) 11:22, 11 April 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Killing Floor 2

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Talk:Beretta 92 pistol series

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Blondie: /* 92 (M9A1) Compact With Rail */

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=Extra Images=
==Additional Variants==
[[Image:BIH1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Inox with Hogue wrap-around grips and spare magazine, as seen in the video game ''[[Uncharted 2: Among Thieves]]'' - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Beretta 92FS Inox wood grips.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS with wood grips (US made gun with black controls) - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Beretta92FS ExtR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS rendered with extended barrel and magazine to resemble the [[Beretta 93R]] - 9x19mm]]

==Screen Used==
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Screen-used Beretta 92F (9x19mm) wielded by Bruce Willis in ''[[Die Hard]]''. Note the extended mag release and slide release, which were modifications made specifically for [[Bruce Willis]].]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none| This well worn Beretta 92FS 9x19mm [[Mel Gibson]] used in the films ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'', ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]'']]
[[Image:DH3-Beretta92FS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A Beretta 92FS 9x19mm configured for left-handed firing. This is one of the actual Berettas (Four identical guns were used on set) used by [[Bruce Willis]] in the film ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'' ]]
[[Image:5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS fitted with AL-GI-MEC - 9x19mm used by Léon ([[Jean Reno]]) in the film ''[[Léon (The Professional)]]''.]]
[[Image:Trinity Beretta92C 9and10 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Compact stunt props used in the films ''[[The Matrix Reloaded]]'' and ''[[Matrix Revolutions, The]]'' - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Blade2-1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|One of the Beretta 92FS heavily customized handguns, with huge blades at the bottom of the barrels, and laser sights were used in the movie ''[[Blade II]]''.]]
[[Image:EQBeretta.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A PhotoShop recreation of the Grammaton Cleric sidearms (heavily modified Beretta 92FS) - 9x19mm used in the film ''[[Equilibrium]]''. (The ones in the film did not have the Beretta logo).]]
[[Image:DSCN0157-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|The Beretta 92FS pistols modified to fire on full auto with barrel weights attached, and added compensators were used in the movie ''[[Underworld]]'' - 9mm.]]

==Replicas==
[[Image:Bruni928mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bruni Model Beretta 92FS blank firing stage prop - 8mm blank.]]
[[Image:SwordCutlass9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Airsoft Replica of Revy's Beretta 92FS Inox "9mm Sword Cutlass" in the anime ''[[Black Lagoon]]'']]
[[Image:STARGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Airsoft Replica of the Beretta 92FS "Samurai Edge" Custom from the ''[[Resident Evil (2002)|Resident Evil]]'' videogame franchise.]]
[[Image:Hfcm190.jpg|thumb|400px|none|"Beretta M9 CQB Brigadier" Airsoft replica]]

=Discussion=
==Correction==
The Boondock Saints characters David Della Rocco and the McManus brothers were incorrectly listed as users of the Beretta 92FS. In the movie, the actual pistols used were the Taurus PT92 with optional suppressors. The Taurus markings are visible in the Carlo Yakavetta execution scene at the end of the movie and was also confirmed by the armorer for the movie and director Troy Duffy.
:Well your correction was wrong. Have you even looked at the page? Here is a screencap. That's definitely a Beretta, it sometimes switches to a PT92 in certain scenes. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:BSBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be."]]

==Curious Question==
The Beretta Centurion, is it simply a 92FS with a shortened barrel? Or is there something else I'm missing?

It's essentially got the Compact's barrel and slide, the normal sized frame, and a slightly shorter dust cover that doesn't really fit into either other category. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 10:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

==Just a reminder==

When you talk about the Beretta 92F or 92FS, it is not spelled "M92F" (as this page is titled), "M92FS", or even "92 FS" with a space in between the "92" and "FS". It's just Beretta 92F or Beretta 92FS, exactly as I have just spelled it. If you see a page with the older (mis)spelling, please do not hesitate to correct it.

And considering that this page has grown to include all of the 92 variants (including the SB, Brigadier, Centurion, etc.), it might be time to rename it. I would recommend re-titling the page "Beretta 92-series pistols". Anyone else agree? [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==...==

Why not have more info on the 93R? Give it its own page?

I propose the following info 9 (and an image if possible; how do I place/upload images here anyway?)

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The '''[[Beretta 93R]]''' (full name: '''Beretta Model 93R''') is a selective-fire 9mm machine pistol. The "R" stands for "Raffica" which means burst in Italian. It was designed in the 70s and meant for police and military use, offering extra firepower in a small package. It is perfect for concealed carry purposes such as VIP protection, or for close quarters fighting such as room-to-room searches.

A selector switch and the foldable foregrip allows the pistol to fire three round bursts with each pull of the trigger for a potential cyclic rate of 1100 rpm. The designers limited it to three round bursts to allow it to be more easily controlled. The 93R is basically a Beretta 92 series pistol (the Beretta [[92FS]] is designated '''"M9"''' by the US military, and is the standard issue pistol for the US military). But the 93R is single action and outfitted with a muzzle brake, an optional detachable shoulder stock and a 20-round magazine that also allowed for a firmer grip. It is currently out of production.

The gun has been used in several movies:

* [[Face/Off]] a 1997 action movie starring John Travolta and Nicolas Cage and directed by John Woo.

* [[Equilibrium]] a 2002 action/science fiction film written and directed by Kurt Wimmer with Christian Bale, Taye Diggs, Christian Kahrmann, Emily Watson and Sean Bean.

==Title change==
I hope no one minds that I changed the page name, "pistol series" matches more of the titles on other pages and is easier to remember than "Series Pistols". Agreed? -GM

==Why separate INOX?==
I was just wondering if there were any technical differences between the 92FS and the INOX, other than the slide being stainless.

:Good question. Only because there are so many movies featuring the 92F Inox that if we didn't separate it from the regular 92F, we'd have to put notes about "Inox finish" in parentheses near each. Whereas most of the other Berettas with Inox finishes don't appear in nearly as many movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

What happened to the other Inox pic that was posted a few days ago? Could you send it to me, please? - [[User:Taurus96]]

==Die Hard and Lethal Weapon==
I've looked at a few of the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon pages, and there seems to be some confusion about which of the two Berettas on this site was used in each film. So, for future reference: which Berettas were used in the Die Hard films and the Lethal Weapon films? I'll put them up. Thanks. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|none|]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|]]

:What the Beretta page says is pretty much accurate. The first gun was used in both the first ''[[Die Hard]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon]]''. See how it has a custom extended slide release (due to Willis being a leftie)? In ''[[Die Hard]]'', there are plenty of scenes where it's possible to see that same extension on the slide release (most notably, during the scene where McClane is about to wander through the shattered glass). The second gun was used in the other three ''Die Hard'' movies and ''[[Demolition Man]]''.

:Also, I don't know why people keep putting the ''[[Die Hard]]'' Beretta on other pages for movies which didn't feature that '''particular''' gun. It should only be used for pages on movies in which it's actually appeared, no more. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Ok, so the first one was in the first ''Die Hard'' and the first ''Lethal Weapon'', while the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?

::It's interesting how the ''Lethal Weapon'' pistol was the same one from ''Die Hard''. Obviously it was modified for Bruce Willis to use, but didn't ''Lethal Weapon'' come out a year prior to ''Die Hard''?

::As far as using the ''Die Hard'' image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from ''Die Hard'' is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site. Thanks for your help, MT. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Also, the Beretta used in the first Lethal Weapon was different from in the subsequent films because it had a gold Beretta logo on the grips instead of the black one that matches the grips on the Berettas shown here. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::''the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?''

::::I'm not really sure. When MoviePropMaster took the pictures of these guns, he said he may have got confused what movies they appeared in. But here is a picture of the second Beretta (and its "stunt double") in their display case at Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry:

::::[[Image:DisplayCase01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

::::You can see that the label next to the gun only mentions ''Die Hard II'' and ''Demolition Man'' as its movie appearances. But MPM '''did''' say he was specifically told that they also brought this Beretta out of "retirement" from the glass case so that it could have a cameo appearance in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' (as we mentioned on the page for that movie). I'm not sure if it was in ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', but that strikes me as unlikely because that movie was filmed in New York and a different armory supplied the weapons for it. I'm also not sure if it was in any of the other ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' movies or not. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::''As far as using the Die Hard image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from Die Hard is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site.''

::::Hmmm, to me, that's kind of stupid because there is so little difference between the 92F and 92FS. Not to mention that it's rather hard to be sure when one or the other is being used (the 92FS replaced the 92F in production very quickly, after all). But I would prefer that the ''[[Die Hard]]''/''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' Beretta only be used on pages for movies in which it actually appears. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::::I think they do this to movies that featured the Beretta that were made in the 80s. If I'm not mistaken, the Beretta 92FS came out in 1990, so they probably think it would be inaccurate to post a picture of the 92FS when the movie obviously used a 92F. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::::Well that's all a moot point. I Just uploaded two shots of early Beretta 92Fs which can be used generically as opposed to the hero movie guns. Thank you thank you thank you, just leave a tip in the jar........ [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

MPM2008, you deserve a cookie. I have replaced the 92FS image and the Die Hard 92F in a few 80's films. But what is the best year to stop using the 92F? Lethal Weapon 2 came out in '89 and Die Hard 2 '90, they both feature the 92FS. Anything prior to '88? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:The 92FS actually came out in either late 1988/early 1989, so these guns were purchased IMMEDIATELY and used right away, which is rare unless it's a hot and 'hip/trendy' gun like the 92. Prior to 1989 there ARE no 92FS guns. PRior to 1983 there are no 92F guns (The ones in 1983 were actually 92SB-F guns which were the same weapon. There is NO stop use date for the 92F or even the 92S/92SB guns. As you've seen people still grab them from inventory as recently as now in films. Just because the Walther P38 technically stopped production at the end of WW2 (Walther's post war versions were actually named differently) we still see the P38 in films for the past 65 years. So in essence we're just taking a wild guess. The only things we can be sure of is when they are NOT being used (i.e. the year of production is too early for the model to have been sold). But any gun of any age can be used at any time. When in doubt and it looks the same, opt for the 92FS from 1990 on unless you can get a really good look at the shiny grips, then it's a 92F. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on the new Beretta 92F pictures, MPM2008, they look great!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I get what you mean about the 92F still being used today. But like you said unless you can really see the shiny grips or have a really great shot of the slide. You pretty much have to go when the film was made. I haven't handled that many Beretta's I didn't even notice the grips being different F shiny vs FS flat.
Here is a pic of my 92F. While the grips look flat, they're shiny it is just my crappy photo skills.
[[Image:PRE20-BER92F.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Also wouldn't a history timeline of the changes on the 92 be a good thing for the page? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

==Distinction==
What exactly is the distinction between the Beretta 92F and the 92FS?
:The FS models have a slide retention device on the frame. Here is a pic showing the slide differences. The FS on top, F on the bottom. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Slide.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Variantons we don't have ==

We are lacking:

Beretta 92A1: 17 round mag, and a Picattiny-Similar rail under the barrel

Beretta 96A1: Same as above but is chambered in .40 S&W and haves a 12 round mag

Beretta 92FS type M9A1: Basically a civilian M9A1 --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 01:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

:Unless those weapons have appeared in any movies or TV shows, I'm not sure we need them on this page. Our goal is to document what appears in movies, not to make a comprehensive list of every variant that Beretta has ever made. As a general guideline, we don't add variants/pictures to a page if we have no evidence that they've appeared in any media. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 00:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

== Custom Grips? ==

I'm in the process of customizing my Beretta, and I've found something that I really like, but I don't know the name of the product. It's the kind of grip in the picture used for the Brigadier Inox, and similarly seen in this image here: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_fP72_yZL4Yk/Sseqpb4zlsI/AAAAAAAAAZQ/1IvokqYHl30/s800/DSC_1636.jpg though I'm not sure they're the same brand of grips. Either way, though, does anyone know a company that sells grips like these for the 92FS? Hopefully at a relatively low price? [[User:Acora|Acora]] 06:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
:Those look like Hogue grips. They are pretty common. Fairly inexpensive too. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 08:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== Could be better ==

I just personally think "why would they not do that?" Like getting rid of the rounded trigger guard, or not giving it a M1911A1 style safety. Not to mention they could add about half of an inch to the barrel. I have never been able to find someone who would customize my old 92F, half the time the telling after I told them what I wanted, they would say, "It can't be done." Of course, being I'm stubborn as hell, I kept looking until I just gave up. Are these custom features too much or just can't happen except in my dreams? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 05:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:If you want the "M1911A1 style safety" wouldn't you be better off with an original 92 that has the frame mounted safety versus the slide mounted safety of all the later variants. The trigger guard could probably be reshaped, no problem. But not sure if the alloy frame would cause problems. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Or just get a Taurus, they are good guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:12, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Could someone explain this to me? ==

What is the benefit of purchasing a Brigadier over a typical 92fs? I have been attempting to research it, and can find no definitive answer.
:Stronger slide. The Brigadier slide is beefed up where the 92fs slide weak point is, at the the locking block area. That's the most common area for them to crack at.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BrigadierInox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS Brigadier Inox 9x19mm.]]

Thank you!

I have a question as well . i was on a page before and they refered to the 92FS as a "Lane And Weston" what dose that mean? simmons 8492
:Reread [[Monk#"Lane & Westen" (Fictional name for Beretta)|that page]], it says what it means pretty clearly.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 02:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

==Beretta 92SB vs. Beretta 92FS==
Aside from the shape of the trigger gaurd, what are the differences between the Beretta 92SB and the Beretta 92FS? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:The SB still had the traditional bluing while the 92F has the Bruniton finish.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
::Could you give more information about the two finnishes? Pros and cons of each, the finnishing process, why they switched?
:::The Bruniton finish has the matte black look, it's supposed to be more durable than bluing as most other finishes are. My 92F is a former police gun, made in '87 I think. While it's got some wear. The Bruniton finish has done its job. The finishing process I have no idea. The finish on the frames looks to me like they stayed the same.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:PRE20-BER92F.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==Grey's Anatomy==
In grey's anatomy, season 6 ep 23~24 it looks like the shooter was using either the 92 or the 96 I am not sure which. Can anybody verify? - [[User:teckchris|teckchris]]
:More likely a 92. 9mm pistols work better with blanks than .40s, and since so many blank-firing 92s are available for use, it doesn't seem likely they would use a 96. I saw the episode in question, but can't remember what the bore size looked like. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

I've created a page for the show, and put in a few entries from the episode. Posted a number of images of the Beretta, as well. [[Grey's Anatomy]] [[User:S. Wolf|S. Wolf]]

==LAPD version==
Does anyone know if the LAPD (or California Law enforcement in general) is required to abide by the 10rd limit they impose on civilians? I'm pretty sure the LAPD adopted this weapon before the limit was instated, however since it was passed are the uniformed patrol officers required to use the restricted capacity magazines civilians are forced to make due with? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

: It varies/depends on the particular state somewhat but generally no, law enforcement isn't limited by the same restrictions as civilians. After all, they do have selective-fire, short-barreled and/or suppressed weapons, and even access to restricted ammunition and other things. I'm pretty sure extra-loaded mags for their service semiautos are part of the deal. In some gun catalogs it states certain capacity magazines are available only to law enforcement. So, yes they can have full 15 (10+) round magazines. I'm not positive as to whether this applies to CA specifically, but I would think so. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

::I find that appalling. SWAT officers certainly should not be required to abide by the same restrictions as civilians as they are more highly trained, do not interact with the public often, and are only called when things really get hairy, but I don't believe patrol officers should be permitted to possess weapons that are forbidden to private citizens, as any situation they might encounter a civilian could be faced with as well, and, because they interact with the general public more, there is greater potential for abuse if the balance of power is too much in their favor. I don't want to sound like some kind of paranoid anarchist, however in principal I don't think the average cop on the street should be able to outgun every citizen he may encounter. Sure 10rds vs. 15rds may not be that big a deal, but it's a slippery slope. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Again, I'm not too specific about all the uh, specifics. And some vary depending on which state you live in. Some civilians are allowed 'restricted' stuff, though not in many cases from what I gather. Still, I agree with you whole-heartedly. Granted I wouldn't mind so much about them getting a few extra rounds in their semiautos (one of the reasons they went to semiautos in the first place was higher capacity), but I hear you about the rest. 'Special' weapons of the sort SHOULD only be issued/used by SWAT teams and other 'special' units. Unfortunately, some cities/departments don't seem to care much in that regard, especially these days. The LAPD you're talking about is also the same LAPD that issued hundreds of military-surplus M16 rifles to regular patrolmen as a knee-jerk reaction to the 1997 North Hollywood Shootout, a decision that still holds effective to this day I believe. And other departments have followed suit (I have seen an episode of 'COPS' with a regular patrolman holding an M4-type rifle on a suspect). Anyway, I still haven't given you a definitive answer about your initial question, so before we continue preaching further, perhaps we should wait until we get one, though I'm pretty sure what the answer will be. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

::::What do you mean that "they" impose on civilians? LAPD are law enforcers, not lawmakers. And no, I don't think LAPD deserves to be subject to the same idiotic laws that civilians are subjected to. Just because legislators in CA are stupid doesn't mean the LAPD needs to be impeded from doing their jobs. And contrary to what you seem to think, LAPD officers are not going to encounter the same situations that civilians encounter. It is their '''job''' to put themselves out on patrol in dangerous areas on a daily basis, which means that they are statistically more likely to be at risk than civilians. I realize you hate CA's gun laws, but taking your anger out on law enforcement officers is hardly a rational response. You do sound like a "paranoid anarchist". -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:31, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

:::::They may not make the laws, but by enforcing them they give them credibility. Complacency is complicity, after all. And yes, the LAPD(with exception of SWAT) deserve to be subject to the same laws as civilians. Here in California, a Ruger Mini-14 is not an assault weapon, but an AR-15 is, despite both being functionally identical, save for a few ergonomic and cosmetic features. And when you consider that Assault Weapons Ban Supporters claim that the only purpose of Assault Weapons is killing lots of people(their words, not mine), it makes you start to wonder why every patrolcar has one in it. I didn't realize that it was the police's job to kill lots of people. 10 round limits are fine, but not the rest of it. As for the original question, I walk by a police station every other day, and I see in each patrolcar an AR-15 type SBR with a 20 round magazine(in addition to a riotgun). I've never looked closely enough to know whether they are full-auto though. So no, even regular police are not governed by the same restrictions as civilians here in CA.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 06:23, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

::::::It's their job to enforce the law. They don't have a choice. Plenty of people work in professions where they have to do stuff that they don't necessarily agree with. By your definition, anyone in California who obeyed the law (and doesn't buy 15-round magazines) must also be "complicit". Just because you disagree with CA's magazine capacity limits doesn't mean police deserve to suffer the same restrictions. And in case you've forgotten, at least civilians have the option of fleeing from scenes of violence, whereas a police officer's job is pretty much to run towards it. Take your ire out on politicians and their idiot constituents. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

==92FS Late Version==
I noticed that while we have separate images of most major weapons in each of their development stages, yet we don't have any images of post '03 models (the ones with the miscellaneous polymer parts and [http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/39/39954.jpg a tapered forward frame]). I browsed through all of the movies on the 92FS list that had a listed date after 2003, and the the only one that I could tell was definitely using one of the newer makes was ''[[Taken]]'' (you can see Neeson using one with the distinctive slanted frame in the second screenshot for the "factory black" 92F listing). To the various armorers on this site; are these just not that common in movie armorer stocks?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 06:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::It's just not economically feasible to run out and buy every variant that comes down the pike and put into the armory. Especially since California is going out of it's way to make getting newer models of any type of firearm more difficult or more expensive (completely due to regulations and NOT the free marketplace), armories maintain many older firearms because there is no real upside in not only buying new guns and blank adapting them, but also the cost has to be filtered down to the customer, and very rarely does it make a difference to the story. Also, even if you're an FFL and have other permits and paperwork, many business are just not doing ANY business with the state, another facet which makes it more difficult [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

==INOX?==

Technically speaking, should it be "INOX" or "Inox"? And how do you pronounce it: ''ee''-nox, ''ih''-nox, in-ox or spelled out? Thanks [[User:MrOshimida27|MrOshimida27]] 23:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

:The term "Inox" is short for "inoxidizable", which is a fancy way of saying the weapon has a stainless finish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:24, 11 July 2011 (CDT)

==Just an amateur question==
I have a blank Beretta 92F pistol. Is there any way to tell that it is a blank gun? (I do not wish to rob a bank or anything like that, I just want to know how many changes did they make compared to the original model... :D ) [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 20:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
[[Image:BlowF92.jpg|thumb|none|700px|My "precious" replica.]]

:It may just be the angle of the first photo, but it looks like they either gave it a skeleton hammer or set it further inward. It also looks like they removed some of the curvature from the rear of the slide. The magazine foot is thicker in the front, the lanyard loop is thicker and the extractor is longer.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:15, 16 March 2011 (CDT)

== Early Beretta 92? ==

Can someone tell me what exactly this pistol is? (pic from [http://www.berettaworld.com Beretta World])
[[File:92Maxi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
The site has it as the picture for the Beretta 92, but it has a couple of differences. Firstly, it has different grips that do not feature the Beretta logo, but I understand that these can be easily changed so could be spurious. Secondly though, the gun in question features a taper/step down in the slide just in front of the ejection port that I have never seen before. My assumption is that this is a very early or prototype Beretta 92 with a slide that was too weak, so the front was widened to the same thickness as the back for future models. I wouldn't normally care, but have found a pistol that matches the above one exactly, so want to know what it is:
[[File:UF 303 116.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 05:25, 14 July 2011 (CDT)

What film is the screenshot from? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:45, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
:Its from the TV series [[Ultimate Force]], am just getting ready to do a big update. They use the exact pistol multiple times, but the odd thing is that they use it in both blued and stainless versions (shown below). It had been suggested that it might be an early Taurus PT92, which apparently lacked the finger step (never heard of this though) but after finding the pic of the Beretta 92 shown above with the exact grips and slide, am pretty sure that is what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:39, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
:[[File:UF 102 35.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Ah right. The picture has a higher angled hammer than a standard 92 style hammer. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 17:57, 14 July 2011 (CDT)

== Pronunciation Help ==

How does one actually prononuce Inox? Is it Eyenox? Innox? And does it change depending on the country? [[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 17:51, 14 October 2011 (CDT)
:"In ox". It's short for "inoxidizing".--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:09, 14 October 2011 (CDT)

==Question about M9==

Is there actually a difference between the M9 and the 92FS, or is it simply a matter of a different designation, because the M9 is a military weapon? [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 19:55, 13 November 2011 (CST)
:From the Beretta forum.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:55, 13 November 2011 (CST)
* The M9 usually has a straight dustcover and non-radiused backstrap (Contract Pistols will always be straight/straight)
* The 92FS (recent model) has a radiused backstrap and angled dustcover (The older 92FS pistols did not have the slanted dustcover.)
* M9 markings (including proof markings and cage # markings)
* M9 lacks the warning to read owner's manual
* The rear sight of the 92FS has 2 dots, whereas the M9 has a single half-moon
* M9 (unless special or limited edition) comes in cardboard box, with no plastic hard case

Thanks! [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 08:00, 14 November 2011 (CST)

== m9a1 ==
why does this mention the reversible mag release as if it were new? the 92fs had a reversible mag release, and i'm pretty sure the m9 does too.
--[[User:Gtcsmc|Gtcsmc]] ([[User talk:Gtcsmc|talk]]) 03:04, 28 December 2012 (EST)

The original M9 was based on the 92F, the FS was a later 92 variant however everything I find online shows the M9 (including Beretta's own site on the M9) mentions it does indeed have it. [[User:Pepper|Pepper]] ([[User talk:Pepper|talk]]) 12:26, 17 December 2014 (EST)

== How many? ==

In how many movies/films was Beretta 92FS shown? [[User:TitaniumAlloy|TitaniumAlloy]] ([[User talk:TitaniumAlloy|talk]]) 12:12, 7 July 2013 (EDT)

:That number could easily be in the thousands due to how ubiquitous the 92FS is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:41, 24 November 2013 (EST)

== Slide safety ==

Does anyone know why the safety was moved from the frame to the slide? I've heard complaints about the slide safety, how it gets in the way while working the slide, and seeing how keeping it on the frame would simplify transitioning from the M1911, why the change? Was it Beretta's idea or the US military's? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:00, 16 February 2015 (EST)
: Despite my liking for some semiautos like the older Rugers and the 3rd Gen S&Ws I find the slide safeties on those to a be a bit of a potential drawback. Firing my bro-in-law's Px4 was wonderful and it is a great gun except that safety is a bit awkward to deal with, especially when working the slide. So I have to say I can see their point, and even agree to an extent. As for why, well, I have a feeling it might have been more a manufacturing expedient; it may have been a bit simpler to produce guns with slide safeties - A lot of pistols around that time and later (and indeed, many semiautos period) seem to have them, so that may be it. It also may be because those safeties act as decockers as well, necessitating making them at the slide nearer to the hammer to facilitate their purpose and again, be easier to make. In any event I'm sure it was all Beretta, and not something asked for by the DoD - It was done back on the 92S, which I think predates those pistol trials - Plus there isn't a slide safety on the P226 (or any SIGs, for that matter), which came to within a hair of winning itself, so again, doubt it was in their criteria (nor disallowed, obviously). Just some observations, they might be a bit silly to suggest it but there they are. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:55, 16 February 2015 (EST)
::The change was at the request of Italian police I believe, who wanted a combined safety/decocker (with the original the options were cocked and locked which some police forces do not like, an empty chamber which is far from ideal if the pistol needs to be used, or having to manually decock by riding the hammer down with the safety off which is a very bad idea for a general issue police pistol). I don't know if the change of position was also part of this request or it was just what they needed to do to get it to work (I imagine the former as Taurus PT92s can have a frame safety/decocker so it can physically work). Although I really do not like frame safeties as I am paranoid about engaging them when racking the slide (particularly in gloves), there are some advantages to the slide safety. With the slide safety the way it works is that it rotates the firing pin out of line with the hammer meaning that there is absolutely no way that the gun could fire and is a very simple and reliable system. Also, the way that the frame safety on the original 92 worked meant that with the safety engaged the slide was locked closed, meaning that in order to load, clear or check the gun you had to take the safety off which could have been a problem for police. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:56, 16 February 2015 (EST)

== 92 (M9A1) Compact With Rail ==

Basically it's a short version of M9A1 and it's featured in upcoming Killing Floor 2, but this version is not present in the article. It's not Beretta 92FS Compact. Should I add it?

The model on the manufacturer page: http://www.beretta.com/en-us/92-compact-with-rail/
92 Compact in-game: [[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Note the short barrel of and the tactical rail]]

P.S. Even though it got the rail, the trigger guard is neither from M9A1 or 92 Compact. Could Beretta enthusiasts help me to determine the exact model of this weapon in-game?
:Beretta 92G Elite 1A? And please sign your posts. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:04, 9 April 2015 (EDT)
::Thanks for the tip, I am a new guy. No, it definitely not a Beretta 92G Elite 1A. 92G Elite 1A got custom hammer, Beretta from KF2 and 92 Compact do not. Grip pattern is also different on both guns. 92G Elite 1A got straight front sight, Beretta from KF2 and 92 Compact got curved front sight. Magazine floor plate shape is different on Beretta from KF2 and 92G Elite 1A.--[[User:Blondie|Blondie]] ([[User talk:Blondie|talk]]) 14:16, 9 April 2015 (EDT)

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=Extra Images=
==Additional Variants==
[[Image:BIH1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Inox with Hogue wrap-around grips and spare magazine, as seen in the video game ''[[Uncharted 2: Among Thieves]]'' - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Beretta 92FS Inox wood grips.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS with wood grips (US made gun with black controls) - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Beretta92FS ExtR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS rendered with extended barrel and magazine to resemble the [[Beretta 93R]] - 9x19mm]]

==Screen Used==
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Screen-used Beretta 92F (9x19mm) wielded by Bruce Willis in ''[[Die Hard]]''. Note the extended mag release and slide release, which were modifications made specifically for [[Bruce Willis]].]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none| This well worn Beretta 92FS 9x19mm [[Mel Gibson]] used in the films ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'', ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]'']]
[[Image:DH3-Beretta92FS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A Beretta 92FS 9x19mm configured for left-handed firing. This is one of the actual Berettas (Four identical guns were used on set) used by [[Bruce Willis]] in the film ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'' ]]
[[Image:5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS fitted with AL-GI-MEC - 9x19mm used by Léon ([[Jean Reno]]) in the film ''[[Léon (The Professional)]]''.]]
[[Image:Trinity Beretta92C 9and10 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Compact stunt props used in the films ''[[The Matrix Reloaded]]'' and ''[[Matrix Revolutions, The]]'' - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Blade2-1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|One of the Beretta 92FS heavily customized handguns, with huge blades at the bottom of the barrels, and laser sights were used in the movie ''[[Blade II]]''.]]
[[Image:EQBeretta.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A PhotoShop recreation of the Grammaton Cleric sidearms (heavily modified Beretta 92FS) - 9x19mm used in the film ''[[Equilibrium]]''. (The ones in the film did not have the Beretta logo).]]
[[Image:DSCN0157-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|The Beretta 92FS pistols modified to fire on full auto with barrel weights attached, and added compensators were used in the movie ''[[Underworld]]'' - 9mm.]]

==Replicas==
[[Image:Bruni928mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bruni Model Beretta 92FS blank firing stage prop - 8mm blank.]]
[[Image:SwordCutlass9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Airsoft Replica of Revy's Beretta 92FS Inox "9mm Sword Cutlass" in the anime ''[[Black Lagoon]]'']]
[[Image:STARGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Airsoft Replica of the Beretta 92FS "Samurai Edge" Custom from the ''[[Resident Evil (2002)|Resident Evil]]'' videogame franchise.]]
[[Image:Hfcm190.jpg|thumb|400px|none|"Beretta M9 CQB Brigadier" Airsoft replica]]

=Discussion=
==Correction==
The Boondock Saints characters David Della Rocco and the McManus brothers were incorrectly listed as users of the Beretta 92FS. In the movie, the actual pistols used were the Taurus PT92 with optional suppressors. The Taurus markings are visible in the Carlo Yakavetta execution scene at the end of the movie and was also confirmed by the armorer for the movie and director Troy Duffy.
:Well your correction was wrong. Have you even looked at the page? Here is a screencap. That's definitely a Beretta, it sometimes switches to a PT92 in certain scenes. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:BSBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be."]]

==Curious Question==
The Beretta Centurion, is it simply a 92FS with a shortened barrel? Or is there something else I'm missing?

It's essentially got the Compact's barrel and slide, the normal sized frame, and a slightly shorter dust cover that doesn't really fit into either other category. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 10:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

==Just a reminder==

When you talk about the Beretta 92F or 92FS, it is not spelled "M92F" (as this page is titled), "M92FS", or even "92 FS" with a space in between the "92" and "FS". It's just Beretta 92F or Beretta 92FS, exactly as I have just spelled it. If you see a page with the older (mis)spelling, please do not hesitate to correct it.

And considering that this page has grown to include all of the 92 variants (including the SB, Brigadier, Centurion, etc.), it might be time to rename it. I would recommend re-titling the page "Beretta 92-series pistols". Anyone else agree? [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==...==

Why not have more info on the 93R? Give it its own page?

I propose the following info 9 (and an image if possible; how do I place/upload images here anyway?)

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The '''[[Beretta 93R]]''' (full name: '''Beretta Model 93R''') is a selective-fire 9mm machine pistol. The "R" stands for "Raffica" which means burst in Italian. It was designed in the 70s and meant for police and military use, offering extra firepower in a small package. It is perfect for concealed carry purposes such as VIP protection, or for close quarters fighting such as room-to-room searches.

A selector switch and the foldable foregrip allows the pistol to fire three round bursts with each pull of the trigger for a potential cyclic rate of 1100 rpm. The designers limited it to three round bursts to allow it to be more easily controlled. The 93R is basically a Beretta 92 series pistol (the Beretta [[92FS]] is designated '''"M9"''' by the US military, and is the standard issue pistol for the US military). But the 93R is single action and outfitted with a muzzle brake, an optional detachable shoulder stock and a 20-round magazine that also allowed for a firmer grip. It is currently out of production.

The gun has been used in several movies:

* [[Face/Off]] a 1997 action movie starring John Travolta and Nicolas Cage and directed by John Woo.

* [[Equilibrium]] a 2002 action/science fiction film written and directed by Kurt Wimmer with Christian Bale, Taye Diggs, Christian Kahrmann, Emily Watson and Sean Bean.

==Title change==
I hope no one minds that I changed the page name, "pistol series" matches more of the titles on other pages and is easier to remember than "Series Pistols". Agreed? -GM

==Why separate INOX?==
I was just wondering if there were any technical differences between the 92FS and the INOX, other than the slide being stainless.

:Good question. Only because there are so many movies featuring the 92F Inox that if we didn't separate it from the regular 92F, we'd have to put notes about "Inox finish" in parentheses near each. Whereas most of the other Berettas with Inox finishes don't appear in nearly as many movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

What happened to the other Inox pic that was posted a few days ago? Could you send it to me, please? - [[User:Taurus96]]

==Die Hard and Lethal Weapon==
I've looked at a few of the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon pages, and there seems to be some confusion about which of the two Berettas on this site was used in each film. So, for future reference: which Berettas were used in the Die Hard films and the Lethal Weapon films? I'll put them up. Thanks. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|none|]]
[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|]]

:What the Beretta page says is pretty much accurate. The first gun was used in both the first ''[[Die Hard]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon]]''. See how it has a custom extended slide release (due to Willis being a leftie)? In ''[[Die Hard]]'', there are plenty of scenes where it's possible to see that same extension on the slide release (most notably, during the scene where McClane is about to wander through the shattered glass). The second gun was used in the other three ''Die Hard'' movies and ''[[Demolition Man]]''.

:Also, I don't know why people keep putting the ''[[Die Hard]]'' Beretta on other pages for movies which didn't feature that '''particular''' gun. It should only be used for pages on movies in which it's actually appeared, no more. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Ok, so the first one was in the first ''Die Hard'' and the first ''Lethal Weapon'', while the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?

::It's interesting how the ''Lethal Weapon'' pistol was the same one from ''Die Hard''. Obviously it was modified for Bruce Willis to use, but didn't ''Lethal Weapon'' come out a year prior to ''Die Hard''?

::As far as using the ''Die Hard'' image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from ''Die Hard'' is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site. Thanks for your help, MT. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Also, the Beretta used in the first Lethal Weapon was different from in the subsequent films because it had a gold Beretta logo on the grips instead of the black one that matches the grips on the Berettas shown here. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::''the second was used in the other three ''Die Hard''s. Was the second also used in the other ''Lethal Weapons''?''

::::I'm not really sure. When MoviePropMaster took the pictures of these guns, he said he may have got confused what movies they appeared in. But here is a picture of the second Beretta (and its "stunt double") in their display case at Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry:

::::[[Image:DisplayCase01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

::::You can see that the label next to the gun only mentions ''Die Hard II'' and ''Demolition Man'' as its movie appearances. But MPM '''did''' say he was specifically told that they also brought this Beretta out of "retirement" from the glass case so that it could have a cameo appearance in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' (as we mentioned on the page for that movie). I'm not sure if it was in ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', but that strikes me as unlikely because that movie was filmed in New York and a different armory supplied the weapons for it. I'm also not sure if it was in any of the other ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' movies or not. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::''As far as using the Die Hard image goes, I think people are doing that to pages that have the Beretta 92F and not the 92FS. This is probably because the Beretta 92F from Die Hard is the only image of a Beretta 92F on this site.''

::::Hmmm, to me, that's kind of stupid because there is so little difference between the 92F and 92FS. Not to mention that it's rather hard to be sure when one or the other is being used (the 92FS replaced the 92F in production very quickly, after all). But I would prefer that the ''[[Die Hard]]''/''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' Beretta only be used on pages for movies in which it actually appears. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::::I think they do this to movies that featured the Beretta that were made in the 80s. If I'm not mistaken, the Beretta 92FS came out in 1990, so they probably think it would be inaccurate to post a picture of the 92FS when the movie obviously used a 92F. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::::Well that's all a moot point. I Just uploaded two shots of early Beretta 92Fs which can be used generically as opposed to the hero movie guns. Thank you thank you thank you, just leave a tip in the jar........ [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

MPM2008, you deserve a cookie. I have replaced the 92FS image and the Die Hard 92F in a few 80's films. But what is the best year to stop using the 92F? Lethal Weapon 2 came out in '89 and Die Hard 2 '90, they both feature the 92FS. Anything prior to '88? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:The 92FS actually came out in either late 1988/early 1989, so these guns were purchased IMMEDIATELY and used right away, which is rare unless it's a hot and 'hip/trendy' gun like the 92. Prior to 1989 there ARE no 92FS guns. PRior to 1983 there are no 92F guns (The ones in 1983 were actually 92SB-F guns which were the same weapon. There is NO stop use date for the 92F or even the 92S/92SB guns. As you've seen people still grab them from inventory as recently as now in films. Just because the Walther P38 technically stopped production at the end of WW2 (Walther's post war versions were actually named differently) we still see the P38 in films for the past 65 years. So in essence we're just taking a wild guess. The only things we can be sure of is when they are NOT being used (i.e. the year of production is too early for the model to have been sold). But any gun of any age can be used at any time. When in doubt and it looks the same, opt for the 92FS from 1990 on unless you can get a really good look at the shiny grips, then it's a 92F. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on the new Beretta 92F pictures, MPM2008, they look great!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I get what you mean about the 92F still being used today. But like you said unless you can really see the shiny grips or have a really great shot of the slide. You pretty much have to go when the film was made. I haven't handled that many Beretta's I didn't even notice the grips being different F shiny vs FS flat.
Here is a pic of my 92F. While the grips look flat, they're shiny it is just my crappy photo skills.
[[Image:PRE20-BER92F.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Also wouldn't a history timeline of the changes on the 92 be a good thing for the page? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

==Distinction==
What exactly is the distinction between the Beretta 92F and the 92FS?
:The FS models have a slide retention device on the frame. Here is a pic showing the slide differences. The FS on top, F on the bottom. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Slide.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Variantons we don't have ==

We are lacking:

Beretta 92A1: 17 round mag, and a Picattiny-Similar rail under the barrel

Beretta 96A1: Same as above but is chambered in .40 S&W and haves a 12 round mag

Beretta 92FS type M9A1: Basically a civilian M9A1 --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 01:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

:Unless those weapons have appeared in any movies or TV shows, I'm not sure we need them on this page. Our goal is to document what appears in movies, not to make a comprehensive list of every variant that Beretta has ever made. As a general guideline, we don't add variants/pictures to a page if we have no evidence that they've appeared in any media. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 00:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

== Custom Grips? ==

I'm in the process of customizing my Beretta, and I've found something that I really like, but I don't know the name of the product. It's the kind of grip in the picture used for the Brigadier Inox, and similarly seen in this image here: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_fP72_yZL4Yk/Sseqpb4zlsI/AAAAAAAAAZQ/1IvokqYHl30/s800/DSC_1636.jpg though I'm not sure they're the same brand of grips. Either way, though, does anyone know a company that sells grips like these for the 92FS? Hopefully at a relatively low price? [[User:Acora|Acora]] 06:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
:Those look like Hogue grips. They are pretty common. Fairly inexpensive too. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 08:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== Could be better ==

I just personally think "why would they not do that?" Like getting rid of the rounded trigger guard, or not giving it a M1911A1 style safety. Not to mention they could add about half of an inch to the barrel. I have never been able to find someone who would customize my old 92F, half the time the telling after I told them what I wanted, they would say, "It can't be done." Of course, being I'm stubborn as hell, I kept looking until I just gave up. Are these custom features too much or just can't happen except in my dreams? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 05:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:If you want the "M1911A1 style safety" wouldn't you be better off with an original 92 that has the frame mounted safety versus the slide mounted safety of all the later variants. The trigger guard could probably be reshaped, no problem. But not sure if the alloy frame would cause problems. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Or just get a Taurus, they are good guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:12, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Could someone explain this to me? ==

What is the benefit of purchasing a Brigadier over a typical 92fs? I have been attempting to research it, and can find no definitive answer.
:Stronger slide. The Brigadier slide is beefed up where the 92fs slide weak point is, at the the locking block area. That's the most common area for them to crack at.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BrigadierInox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS Brigadier Inox 9x19mm.]]

Thank you!

I have a question as well . i was on a page before and they refered to the 92FS as a "Lane And Weston" what dose that mean? simmons 8492
:Reread [[Monk#"Lane & Westen" (Fictional name for Beretta)|that page]], it says what it means pretty clearly.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 02:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

==Beretta 92SB vs. Beretta 92FS==
Aside from the shape of the trigger gaurd, what are the differences between the Beretta 92SB and the Beretta 92FS? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:The SB still had the traditional bluing while the 92F has the Bruniton finish.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
::Could you give more information about the two finnishes? Pros and cons of each, the finnishing process, why they switched?
:::The Bruniton finish has the matte black look, it's supposed to be more durable than bluing as most other finishes are. My 92F is a former police gun, made in '87 I think. While it's got some wear. The Bruniton finish has done its job. The finishing process I have no idea. The finish on the frames looks to me like they stayed the same.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:PRE20-BER92F.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==Grey's Anatomy==
In grey's anatomy, season 6 ep 23~24 it looks like the shooter was using either the 92 or the 96 I am not sure which. Can anybody verify? - [[User:teckchris|teckchris]]
:More likely a 92. 9mm pistols work better with blanks than .40s, and since so many blank-firing 92s are available for use, it doesn't seem likely they would use a 96. I saw the episode in question, but can't remember what the bore size looked like. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

I've created a page for the show, and put in a few entries from the episode. Posted a number of images of the Beretta, as well. [[Grey's Anatomy]] [[User:S. Wolf|S. Wolf]]

==LAPD version==
Does anyone know if the LAPD (or California Law enforcement in general) is required to abide by the 10rd limit they impose on civilians? I'm pretty sure the LAPD adopted this weapon before the limit was instated, however since it was passed are the uniformed patrol officers required to use the restricted capacity magazines civilians are forced to make due with? -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

: It varies/depends on the particular state somewhat but generally no, law enforcement isn't limited by the same restrictions as civilians. After all, they do have selective-fire, short-barreled and/or suppressed weapons, and even access to restricted ammunition and other things. I'm pretty sure extra-loaded mags for their service semiautos are part of the deal. In some gun catalogs it states certain capacity magazines are available only to law enforcement. So, yes they can have full 15 (10+) round magazines. I'm not positive as to whether this applies to CA specifically, but I would think so. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

::I find that appalling. SWAT officers certainly should not be required to abide by the same restrictions as civilians as they are more highly trained, do not interact with the public often, and are only called when things really get hairy, but I don't believe patrol officers should be permitted to possess weapons that are forbidden to private citizens, as any situation they might encounter a civilian could be faced with as well, and, because they interact with the general public more, there is greater potential for abuse if the balance of power is too much in their favor. I don't want to sound like some kind of paranoid anarchist, however in principal I don't think the average cop on the street should be able to outgun every citizen he may encounter. Sure 10rds vs. 15rds may not be that big a deal, but it's a slippery slope. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Again, I'm not too specific about all the uh, specifics. And some vary depending on which state you live in. Some civilians are allowed 'restricted' stuff, though not in many cases from what I gather. Still, I agree with you whole-heartedly. Granted I wouldn't mind so much about them getting a few extra rounds in their semiautos (one of the reasons they went to semiautos in the first place was higher capacity), but I hear you about the rest. 'Special' weapons of the sort SHOULD only be issued/used by SWAT teams and other 'special' units. Unfortunately, some cities/departments don't seem to care much in that regard, especially these days. The LAPD you're talking about is also the same LAPD that issued hundreds of military-surplus M16 rifles to regular patrolmen as a knee-jerk reaction to the 1997 North Hollywood Shootout, a decision that still holds effective to this day I believe. And other departments have followed suit (I have seen an episode of 'COPS' with a regular patrolman holding an M4-type rifle on a suspect). Anyway, I still haven't given you a definitive answer about your initial question, so before we continue preaching further, perhaps we should wait until we get one, though I'm pretty sure what the answer will be. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

::::What do you mean that "they" impose on civilians? LAPD are law enforcers, not lawmakers. And no, I don't think LAPD deserves to be subject to the same idiotic laws that civilians are subjected to. Just because legislators in CA are stupid doesn't mean the LAPD needs to be impeded from doing their jobs. And contrary to what you seem to think, LAPD officers are not going to encounter the same situations that civilians encounter. It is their '''job''' to put themselves out on patrol in dangerous areas on a daily basis, which means that they are statistically more likely to be at risk than civilians. I realize you hate CA's gun laws, but taking your anger out on law enforcement officers is hardly a rational response. You do sound like a "paranoid anarchist". -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:31, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

:::::They may not make the laws, but by enforcing them they give them credibility. Complacency is complicity, after all. And yes, the LAPD(with exception of SWAT) deserve to be subject to the same laws as civilians. Here in California, a Ruger Mini-14 is not an assault weapon, but an AR-15 is, despite both being functionally identical, save for a few ergonomic and cosmetic features. And when you consider that Assault Weapons Ban Supporters claim that the only purpose of Assault Weapons is killing lots of people(their words, not mine), it makes you start to wonder why every patrolcar has one in it. I didn't realize that it was the police's job to kill lots of people. 10 round limits are fine, but not the rest of it. As for the original question, I walk by a police station every other day, and I see in each patrolcar an AR-15 type SBR with a 20 round magazine(in addition to a riotgun). I've never looked closely enough to know whether they are full-auto though. So no, even regular police are not governed by the same restrictions as civilians here in CA.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 06:23, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

::::::It's their job to enforce the law. They don't have a choice. Plenty of people work in professions where they have to do stuff that they don't necessarily agree with. By your definition, anyone in California who obeyed the law (and doesn't buy 15-round magazines) must also be "complicit". Just because you disagree with CA's magazine capacity limits doesn't mean police deserve to suffer the same restrictions. And in case you've forgotten, at least civilians have the option of fleeing from scenes of violence, whereas a police officer's job is pretty much to run towards it. Take your ire out on politicians and their idiot constituents. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

==92FS Late Version==
I noticed that while we have separate images of most major weapons in each of their development stages, yet we don't have any images of post '03 models (the ones with the miscellaneous polymer parts and [http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/39/39954.jpg a tapered forward frame]). I browsed through all of the movies on the 92FS list that had a listed date after 2003, and the the only one that I could tell was definitely using one of the newer makes was ''[[Taken]]'' (you can see Neeson using one with the distinctive slanted frame in the second screenshot for the "factory black" 92F listing). To the various armorers on this site; are these just not that common in movie armorer stocks?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 06:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::It's just not economically feasible to run out and buy every variant that comes down the pike and put into the armory. Especially since California is going out of it's way to make getting newer models of any type of firearm more difficult or more expensive (completely due to regulations and NOT the free marketplace), armories maintain many older firearms because there is no real upside in not only buying new guns and blank adapting them, but also the cost has to be filtered down to the customer, and very rarely does it make a difference to the story. Also, even if you're an FFL and have other permits and paperwork, many business are just not doing ANY business with the state, another facet which makes it more difficult [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

==INOX?==

Technically speaking, should it be "INOX" or "Inox"? And how do you pronounce it: ''ee''-nox, ''ih''-nox, in-ox or spelled out? Thanks [[User:MrOshimida27|MrOshimida27]] 23:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

:The term "Inox" is short for "inoxidizable", which is a fancy way of saying the weapon has a stainless finish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:24, 11 July 2011 (CDT)

==Just an amateur question==
I have a blank Beretta 92F pistol. Is there any way to tell that it is a blank gun? (I do not wish to rob a bank or anything like that, I just want to know how many changes did they make compared to the original model... :D ) [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 20:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
[[Image:BlowF92.jpg|thumb|none|700px|My "precious" replica.]]

:It may just be the angle of the first photo, but it looks like they either gave it a skeleton hammer or set it further inward. It also looks like they removed some of the curvature from the rear of the slide. The magazine foot is thicker in the front, the lanyard loop is thicker and the extractor is longer.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:15, 16 March 2011 (CDT)

== Early Beretta 92? ==

Can someone tell me what exactly this pistol is? (pic from [http://www.berettaworld.com Beretta World])
[[File:92Maxi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
The site has it as the picture for the Beretta 92, but it has a couple of differences. Firstly, it has different grips that do not feature the Beretta logo, but I understand that these can be easily changed so could be spurious. Secondly though, the gun in question features a taper/step down in the slide just in front of the ejection port that I have never seen before. My assumption is that this is a very early or prototype Beretta 92 with a slide that was too weak, so the front was widened to the same thickness as the back for future models. I wouldn't normally care, but have found a pistol that matches the above one exactly, so want to know what it is:
[[File:UF 303 116.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 05:25, 14 July 2011 (CDT)

What film is the screenshot from? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:45, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
:Its from the TV series [[Ultimate Force]], am just getting ready to do a big update. They use the exact pistol multiple times, but the odd thing is that they use it in both blued and stainless versions (shown below). It had been suggested that it might be an early Taurus PT92, which apparently lacked the finger step (never heard of this though) but after finding the pic of the Beretta 92 shown above with the exact grips and slide, am pretty sure that is what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:39, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
:[[File:UF 102 35.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Ah right. The picture has a higher angled hammer than a standard 92 style hammer. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 17:57, 14 July 2011 (CDT)

== Pronunciation Help ==

How does one actually prononuce Inox? Is it Eyenox? Innox? And does it change depending on the country? [[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 17:51, 14 October 2011 (CDT)
:"In ox". It's short for "inoxidizing".--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:09, 14 October 2011 (CDT)

==Question about M9==

Is there actually a difference between the M9 and the 92FS, or is it simply a matter of a different designation, because the M9 is a military weapon? [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 19:55, 13 November 2011 (CST)
:From the Beretta forum.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:55, 13 November 2011 (CST)
* The M9 usually has a straight dustcover and non-radiused backstrap (Contract Pistols will always be straight/straight)
* The 92FS (recent model) has a radiused backstrap and angled dustcover (The older 92FS pistols did not have the slanted dustcover.)
* M9 markings (including proof markings and cage # markings)
* M9 lacks the warning to read owner's manual
* The rear sight of the 92FS has 2 dots, whereas the M9 has a single half-moon
* M9 (unless special or limited edition) comes in cardboard box, with no plastic hard case

Thanks! [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 08:00, 14 November 2011 (CST)

== m9a1 ==
why does this mention the reversible mag release as if it were new? the 92fs had a reversible mag release, and i'm pretty sure the m9 does too.
--[[User:Gtcsmc|Gtcsmc]] ([[User talk:Gtcsmc|talk]]) 03:04, 28 December 2012 (EST)

The original M9 was based on the 92F, the FS was a later 92 variant however everything I find online shows the M9 (including Beretta's own site on the M9) mentions it does indeed have it. [[User:Pepper|Pepper]] ([[User talk:Pepper|talk]]) 12:26, 17 December 2014 (EST)

== How many? ==

In how many movies/films was Beretta 92FS shown? [[User:TitaniumAlloy|TitaniumAlloy]] ([[User talk:TitaniumAlloy|talk]]) 12:12, 7 July 2013 (EDT)

:That number could easily be in the thousands due to how ubiquitous the 92FS is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:41, 24 November 2013 (EST)

== Slide safety ==

Does anyone know why the safety was moved from the frame to the slide? I've heard complaints about the slide safety, how it gets in the way while working the slide, and seeing how keeping it on the frame would simplify transitioning from the M1911, why the change? Was it Beretta's idea or the US military's? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:00, 16 February 2015 (EST)
: Despite my liking for some semiautos like the older Rugers and the 3rd Gen S&Ws I find the slide safeties on those to a be a bit of a potential drawback. Firing my bro-in-law's Px4 was wonderful and it is a great gun except that safety is a bit awkward to deal with, especially when working the slide. So I have to say I can see their point, and even agree to an extent. As for why, well, I have a feeling it might have been more a manufacturing expedient; it may have been a bit simpler to produce guns with slide safeties - A lot of pistols around that time and later (and indeed, many semiautos period) seem to have them, so that may be it. It also may be because those safeties act as decockers as well, necessitating making them at the slide nearer to the hammer to facilitate their purpose and again, be easier to make. In any event I'm sure it was all Beretta, and not something asked for by the DoD - It was done back on the 92S, which I think predates those pistol trials - Plus there isn't a slide safety on the P226 (or any SIGs, for that matter), which came to within a hair of winning itself, so again, doubt it was in their criteria (nor disallowed, obviously). Just some observations, they might be a bit silly to suggest it but there they are. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:55, 16 February 2015 (EST)
::The change was at the request of Italian police I believe, who wanted a combined safety/decocker (with the original the options were cocked and locked which some police forces do not like, an empty chamber which is far from ideal if the pistol needs to be used, or having to manually decock by riding the hammer down with the safety off which is a very bad idea for a general issue police pistol). I don't know if the change of position was also part of this request or it was just what they needed to do to get it to work (I imagine the former as Taurus PT92s can have a frame safety/decocker so it can physically work). Although I really do not like frame safeties as I am paranoid about engaging them when racking the slide (particularly in gloves), there are some advantages to the slide safety. With the slide safety the way it works is that it rotates the firing pin out of line with the hammer meaning that there is absolutely no way that the gun could fire and is a very simple and reliable system. Also, the way that the frame safety on the original 92 worked meant that with the safety engaged the slide was locked closed, meaning that in order to load, clear or check the gun you had to take the safety off which could have been a problem for police. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:56, 16 February 2015 (EST)

== 92 (M9A1) Compact With Rail ==

Basically it's a short version of M9A1 and it's featured in upcoming Killing Floor 2, but this version is not present in the article. It's not Beretta 92FS Compact. Should I add it?

The model on the manufacturer page: http://www.beretta.com/en-us/92-compact-with-rail/
92 Compact in-game: [[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Note the short barrel of and the tactical rail]]

P.S. Even though it got the rail, the trigger guard is neither from M9A1 or 92 Compact. Could Beretta enthusiasts help me to determine the exact model of this weapon in-game?
:Beretta 92G Elite 1A? And please sign your posts. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:04, 9 April 2015 (EDT)
::Thanks for the tip, I am a new guy. No, it definitely not a Beretta 92G Elite 1A. 92G Elite 1A got custom hammer, Beretta from KF2 and 92 Compact do not. Grip pattern is also different on both guns. 92G Elite 1A got straight front sight, Beretta from KF2 and 92 Compact got curved front sight. Magazine tip shape is different on Beretta from KF2 and 92G Elite 1A.--[[User:Blondie|Blondie]] ([[User talk:Blondie|talk]]) 14:16, 9 April 2015 (EDT)

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{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Killing Floor 2
|picture = Killing Floor 2.jpg
|caption = PC Boxart
|developer = Tripwire Interactive
|platforms= PC Linux
|publisher = Tripwire Interactive
|genre = First-Person Shooter
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'''''Killing Floor 2''''' (also refered as '''''KF2''''') is an upcoming first-person survival coop shooter video game developed and published by Tripwire Interactive for the PC and Linux. It is sequel to [[Killing Floor|first Killing Floor game]].
The game is being developed on modified ''Unreal Engine 3''. Killing Floor 2 will come out on 21st april 2015 as early access title.

'''The following weapons appear in the game ''Killing Floor'':'''
__TOC__ 

= Handguns =
== Beretta M9A1 ==
The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta M9A1|Beretta M9A1]], equipped with a weaponlight, appears as the "9mm Pistol" and is the default sidearm for every perk. It can be dual-wielded. Unlike M9A1 from the first part of the game incorrectly featuring two fluorescent dots on the rear sight notch, the Beretta in Killing Floor 2 has no dots on sights at all. The presence of the tactical rail indicates that it's M9A1, but the gun lacks checkered back strap.

[[Image:BerettaM9A1.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Beretta M9A1 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-1.jpg|none|thumb|600px|The Beretta M9A1 in-game.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Performing an ammo check.]]

= Submachine Guns =
== Colt 9mm Submachine Gun ==
The Colt 9mm Submachine Gun, appearing as the "AR-15 Varmint Rifle", is the first weapon available for the Commando perk. Although it is called "rifle" in-game and the Commando arsenal mainly consists of assault rifles, this weapon is actually a submachine gun. This version of Colt 9mm Submachine Gun features forward assist and Rail Interface System with removable carry handle and Magpul AFG.
[[Image:Colt_R0991.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Colt 9mm SMG aka Colt R0991 with RIS handguard - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG drawn]]

= Shotguns =
== Benelli M4 Super 90 ==
The [[Benelli M Series Super 90 Shotguns#Benelli M4|Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun is the third weapon available for Support perk. It is equipped with a weaponlight as well as a red dot sight on the top rail. Like in first Killing Floor, it features 6-round tube magazine, indicating the use of three-inch shells.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Loading the Benelli M4]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Benelli M4]]

== AA-12 CQB ==
The AA-12 is a tier 4 weapon for Support class. It is a fully automatic shotgun.

[[Image:AA-12 CQB.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AA-12 CQB - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12.jpeg|thumb|600px|none|Firing AA-12 in the first person view]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12 camo 3rd person.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Player wielding a camouflaged AA-12]]

= Assault Rifles and Carbines =
== L85A2 ==
The [[SA80#L85A1|L85A1]] is the second weapon for the Сommando perk. It appears as the "SA80 L85A2 Bullpup", where "SA80" is the weapon series L85A2 belongs to. It is fitted with an EOtech holographic sight.
[[Image:L85A2Iron.jpg|thumb|350px|none|L85A2 - 5.45x39mm.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-185A2-1_.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-L85A2-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]

== AK-12 ==
The [[AK-12|AK-12]] is the third Commando-perk weapon. It is fitted with a Kobra red dot sight and a vertical foregrip.
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Tactical Reload for the AK-12. Note the modeled bullets in the fresh mag.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK-12]]

= Battle Rifles =
== FN SCAR-H STD (Mark 17 Mod 0) ==
The [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H STD]] appears as the "SCAR-H Assault Rifle", is the most powerful weapon for Commando perk. Like in the original Killing Floor, it is equipped with an M68 Aimpoint Close Combat Optic.

[[Image:FN_SCAR-H_STD.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H STD - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 SCAR.jpg|none|thumb|600px|SCAR-H Assault Rifle in-game]]

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Killing Floor 2

2015-04-09T16:19:40Z

Blondie: /* Colt 9mm Submachine Gun */ added some Colt SMG detailss

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{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Killing Floor 2
|picture = Killing Floor 2.jpg
|caption = PC Boxart
|developer = Tripwire Interactive
|platforms= PC Linux
|publisher = Tripwire Interactive
|genre = First-Person Shooter
}}

'''''Killing Floor 2''''' (also refered as '''''KF2''''') is upcoming first-person survival coop shooter video game developed and published by Tripwire Interactive for the PC and Linux. It is sequel to [[Killing Floor|first Killing Floor game]].
The game is being developed on modified ''Unreal Engine 3''. Killing Floor 2 will come out on 21st april 2015 as early access title.

'''The following weapons appear in the game ''Killing Floor'':'''
__TOC__ 

= Handguns =
== Beretta M9A1 ==
The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta M9A1|Beretta M9A1]], equipped with a weaponlight, appears as the "9mm Pistol" and is the default sidearm for every perk. It can be dual-wielded. Unlike M9A1 from the first part of the game, which incorrectly featured two illuminated white-painted dots on the rear sight, the Beretta in Killing Floor 2 has no dots on sights at all. The presence of the rail indicates that it's M9A1, but the gun lacks checkered back strap.

[[Image:BerettaM9A1.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Beretta M9A1 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-1.jpg|none|thumb|600px|The Beretta M9A1 in-game.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Performing an ammo check.]]

= Submachine Guns =
== Colt 9mm Submachine Gun ==
The Colt 9mm Submachine Gun, appearing as the "AR-15 Varmint Rifle", is the first Commando-perk weapon available. Although it is called "rifle" in game and is placed into Commando-perk weapons, this weapon is actually a submachine gun. This version of Colt 9mm Submachine Gun features forward assist and Rail Interface System with removable carry handle and Magpul AFG.
[[Image:Colt_R0991.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Colt 9mm SMG aka Colt R0991 with RIS handguard - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG drawn]]

= Shotguns =
== Benelli M4 Super 90 ==
The [[Benelli M Series Super 90 Shotguns#Benelli M4|Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun is the third weapon available for Support perk. It mounts a weaponlight as well as a red dot sight on the top rail. Like in first Killing Floor, it features 6-round tube magazine, indicating the use of three-inch shells.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Loading the Benelli M4]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Benelli M4]]

== AA-12 CQB ==
The AA-12 is tier 4 weapon for Support class. It is fully automatic shotgun.

[[Image:AA-12 CQB.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AA-12 CQB - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12.jpeg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 fired in first person persective]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12 camo 3rd person.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 with camo from third person view]]

= Assault Rifles and Carbines =
== L85A2 ==
The [[SA80#L85A1|L85A1]] is the second Commando-perk weapon. It appears as the "SA80 L85A2 Bullpup", where SA80 refers to weapon series that L85A2 belongs. It is fitted with a EOtech holographic sight.
[[Image:L85A2Iron.jpg|thumb|350px|none|L85A2 - 5.45x39mm.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-185A2-1_.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-L85A2-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]

== AK-12 ==
The [[AK-12|AK-12]] is the third Commando-perk weapon. It is fitted with a Kobra red dot sight and a vertical foregrip.
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Tactical Reload for the AK-12. Note the modeled bullets in the fresh mag.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK-12]]

= Battle Rifles =
== FN SCAR-H STD (Mark 17 Mod 0) ==
The [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H STD]] is referred as the "SCAR-H Assault Rifle", is the most powerful weapon for Commando perk. Like in first Killing Floor, it is equipped an M68 Aimpoint Close Combat Optic.

[[Image:FN_SCAR-H_STD.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H STD - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 SCAR.jpg|none|thumb|600px|SCAR-H Assault Rifle in-game]]

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Killing Floor 2

2015-04-09T16:07:47Z

Blondie: /* Colt 9mm Submachine Gun */

{{Upcoming}}

{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Killing Floor 2
|picture = Killing Floor 2.jpg
|caption = PC Boxart
|developer = Tripwire Interactive
|platforms= PC Linux
|publisher = Tripwire Interactive
|genre = First-Person Shooter
}}

'''''Killing Floor 2''''' (also refered as '''''KF2''''') is upcoming first-person survival coop shooter video game developed and published by Tripwire Interactive for the PC and Linux. It is sequel to [[Killing Floor|first Killing Floor game]].
The game is being developed on modified ''Unreal Engine 3''. Killing Floor 2 will come out on 21st april 2015 as early access title.

'''The following weapons appear in the game ''Killing Floor'':'''
__TOC__ 

= Handguns =
== Beretta M9A1 ==
The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta M9A1|Beretta M9A1]], equipped with a weaponlight, appears as the "9mm Pistol" and is the default sidearm for every perk. It can be dual-wielded. Unlike M9A1 from the first part of the game, which incorrectly featured two illuminated white-painted dots on the rear sight, the Beretta in Killing Floor 2 has no dots on sights at all. The presence of the rail indicates that it's M9A1, but the gun lacks checkered back strap.

[[Image:BerettaM9A1.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Beretta M9A1 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-1.jpg|none|thumb|600px|The Beretta M9A1 in-game.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Performing an ammo check.]]

= Submachine Guns =
== Colt 9mm Submachine Gun ==
The Colt 9mm Submachine Gun, appearing as the "AR-15 Varmint Rifle", is the first Commando-perk weapon available. Although it is called "rifle" in game and is placed into Commando-perk weapons, this weapon is actually a submachine gun. This version of Colt 9mm Submachine Gun features forward assist and a picatinny rail with removable carry handle on it.
[[Image:Colt_R0991.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Colt 9mm SMG aka Colt R0991 with RIS handguard - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG drawn]]

= Shotguns =
== Benelli M4 Super 90 ==
The [[Benelli M Series Super 90 Shotguns#Benelli M4|Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun is the third weapon available for Support perk. It mounts a weaponlight as well as a red dot sight on the top rail. Like in first Killing Floor, it features 6-round tube magazine, indicating the use of three-inch shells.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Loading the Benelli M4]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Benelli M4]]

== AA-12 CQB ==
The AA-12 is tier 4 weapon for Support class. It is fully automatic shotgun.

[[Image:AA-12 CQB.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AA-12 CQB - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12.jpeg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 fired in first person persective]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12 camo 3rd person.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 with camo from third person view]]

= Assault Rifles and Carbines =
== L85A2 ==
The [[SA80#L85A1|L85A1]] is the second Commando-perk weapon. It appears as the "SA80 L85A2 Bullpup", where SA80 refers to weapon series that L85A2 belongs. It is fitted with a EOtech holographic sight.
[[Image:L85A2Iron.jpg|thumb|350px|none|L85A2 - 5.45x39mm.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-185A2-1_.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-L85A2-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]

== AK-12 ==
The [[AK-12|AK-12]] is the third Commando-perk weapon. It is fitted with a Kobra red dot sight and a vertical foregrip.
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Tactical Reload for the AK-12. Note the modeled bullets in the fresh mag.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK-12]]

= Battle Rifles =
== FN SCAR-H STD (Mark 17 Mod 0) ==
The [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H STD]] is referred as the "SCAR-H Assault Rifle", is the most powerful weapon for Commando perk. Like in first Killing Floor, it is equipped an M68 Aimpoint Close Combat Optic.

[[Image:FN_SCAR-H_STD.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H STD - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 SCAR.jpg|none|thumb|600px|SCAR-H Assault Rifle in-game]]

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Killing Floor 2

2015-04-09T15:41:56Z

Blondie: Added Beretta 92 (probably M9A1) in Handguns

{{Upcoming}}

{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Killing Floor 2
|picture = Killing Floor 2.jpg
|caption = PC Boxart
|developer = Tripwire Interactive
|platforms= PC Linux
|publisher = Tripwire Interactive
|genre = First-Person Shooter
}}

'''''Killing Floor 2''''' (also refered as '''''KF2''''') is upcoming first-person survival coop shooter video game developed and published by Tripwire Interactive for the PC and Linux. It is sequel to [[Killing Floor|first Killing Floor game]].
The game is being developed on modified ''Unreal Engine 3''. Killing Floor 2 will come out on 21st april 2015 as early access title.

'''The following weapons appear in the game ''Killing Floor'':'''
__TOC__ 

= Handguns =
== Beretta M9A1 ==
The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta M9A1|Beretta M9A1]], equipped with a weaponlight, appears as the "9mm Pistol" and is the default sidearm for every perk. It can be dual-wielded. Unlike M9A1 from the first part of the game, which incorrectly featured two illuminated white-painted dots on the rear sight, the Beretta in Killing Floor 2 has no dots on sights at all. The presence of the rail indicates that it's M9A1, but the gun lacks checkered back strap.

[[Image:BerettaM9A1.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Beretta M9A1 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-1.jpg|none|thumb|600px|The Beretta M9A1 in-game.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-M9A1-2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Performing an ammo check.]]

= Submachine Guns =
== Colt 9mm Submachine Gun ==
The Colt 9mm Submachine Gun, appearing as the "AR-15 Varmint Rifle", is the first Commando-perk weapon available. Although it is called "rifle" in game and is placed into Commando-perk weapons, this weapon is actually a submachine gun.
[[Image:Colt_R0991.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Colt 9mm SMG aka Colt R0991 with RIS handguard - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG drawn]]

= Shotguns =
== Benelli M4 Super 90 ==
The [[Benelli M Series Super 90 Shotguns#Benelli M4|Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun is the third weapon available for Support perk. It mounts a weaponlight as well as a red dot sight on the top rail. Like in first Killing Floor, it features 6-round tube magazine, indicating the use of three-inch shells.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Loading the Benelli M4]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Benelli M4]]

== AA-12 CQB ==
The AA-12 is tier 4 weapon for Support class. It is fully automatic shotgun.

[[Image:AA-12 CQB.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AA-12 CQB - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12.jpeg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 fired in first person persective]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12 camo 3rd person.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 with camo from third person view]]

= Assault Rifles and Carbines =
== L85A2 ==
The [[SA80#L85A1|L85A1]] is the second Commando-perk weapon. It appears as the "SA80 L85A2 Bullpup", where SA80 refers to weapon series that L85A2 belongs. It is fitted with a EOtech holographic sight.
[[Image:L85A2Iron.jpg|thumb|350px|none|L85A2 - 5.45x39mm.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-185A2-1_.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-L85A2-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]

== AK-12 ==
The [[AK-12|AK-12]] is the third Commando-perk weapon. It is fitted with a Kobra red dot sight and a vertical foregrip.
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Tactical Reload for the AK-12. Note the modeled bullets in the fresh mag.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK-12]]

= Battle Rifles =
== FN SCAR-H STD (Mark 17 Mod 0) ==
The [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H STD]] is referred as the "SCAR-H Assault Rifle", is the most powerful weapon for Commando perk. Like in first Killing Floor, it is equipped an M68 Aimpoint Close Combat Optic.

[[Image:FN_SCAR-H_STD.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H STD - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 SCAR.jpg|none|thumb|600px|SCAR-H Assault Rifle in-game]]

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[[Category:Horror]]

File:KillingFloor2-M9A1-1.jpg

2015-04-09T15:29:37Z

Blondie: Category:Screenshot

[[Category:Screenshot]]

Killing Floor 2

2015-04-09T15:10:31Z

Blondie: Corrected several Gun Image sizes from 600 to 350.

{{Upcoming}}

{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Killing Floor 2
|picture = Killing Floor 2.jpg
|caption = PC Boxart
|developer = Tripwire Interactive
|platforms= PC Linux
|publisher = Tripwire Interactive
|genre = First-Person Shooter
}}

'''''Killing Floor 2''''' (also refered as '''''KF2''''') is upcoming first-person survival coop shooter video game developed and published by Tripwire Interactive for the PC and Linux. It is sequel to [[Killing Floor|first Killing Floor game]].
The game is being developed on modified ''Unreal Engine 3''. Killing Floor 2 will come out on 21st april 2015 as early access title.

'''The following weapons appear in the game ''Killing Floor'':'''
__TOC__ 

= Handguns =

= Submachine Guns =
== Colt 9mm Submachine Gun ==
The Colt 9mm Submachine Gun, appearing as the "AR-15 Varmint Rifle", is the first Commando-perk weapon available. Although it is called "rifle" in game and is placed into Commando-perk weapons, this weapon is actually a submachine gun.
[[Image:Colt_R0991.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Colt 9mm SMG aka Colt R0991 with RIS handguard - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG drawn]]

= Shotguns =
== Benelli M4 Super 90 ==
The [[Benelli M Series Super 90 Shotguns#Benelli M4|Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun is the third weapon available for Support perk. It mounts a weaponlight as well as a red dot sight on the top rail. Like in first Killing Floor, it features 6-round tube magazine, indicating the use of three-inch shells.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Loading the Benelli M4]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Benelli M4]]

== AA-12 CQB ==
The AA-12 is tier 4 weapon for Support class. It is fully automatic shotgun.

[[Image:AA-12 CQB.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AA-12 CQB - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12.jpeg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 fired in first person persective]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12 camo 3rd person.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 with camo from third person view]]

= Assault Rifles and Carbines =
== L85A2 ==
The [[SA80#L85A1|L85A1]] is the second Commando-perk weapon. It appears as the "SA80 L85A2 Bullpup", where SA80 refers to weapon series that L85A2 belongs. It is fitted with a EOtech holographic sight.
[[Image:L85A2Iron.jpg|thumb|350px|none|L85A2 - 5.45x39mm.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-185A2-1_.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-L85A2-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]

== AK-12 ==
The [[AK-12|AK-12]] is the third Commando-perk weapon. It is fitted with a Kobra red dot sight and a vertical foregrip.
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Tactical Reload for the AK-12. Note the modeled bullets in the fresh mag.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK-12]]

= Battle Rifles =
== FN SCAR-H STD (Mark 17 Mod 0) ==
The [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H STD]] is referred as the "SCAR-H Assault Rifle", is the most powerful weapon for Commando perk. Like in first Killing Floor, it is equipped an M68 Aimpoint Close Combat Optic.

[[Image:FN_SCAR-H_STD.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H STD - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 SCAR.jpg|none|thumb|600px|SCAR-H Assault Rifle in-game]]

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Talk:Killing Floor 2

2015-04-08T22:00:21Z

Blondie: /* Exact model of Beretta 92? */

Talk:Killing Floor 2

2015-04-08T21:54:08Z

Blondie: /* Exact model of Beretta 92? */

== Exact model of Beretta 92? ==

Gameplay video is here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LeDvDdadxQ

Could somebody determine what Beretta is used there? Is it M9A1 like in the first game? At first I even thought that the trigger guard is rounded, indicating it's not F/FS, but then I realized that it was the flashlight that hid the guard's shape.

Talk:Killing Floor 2

2015-04-08T21:51:46Z

Blondie: Created page with "== Exact model of Beretta 92? == Gameplay video is here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LeDvDdadxQ Could somebody determine what Beretta is used there? Is it M9A1 like in the firs..."

== Exact model of Beretta 92? ==

Gameplay video is here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LeDvDdadxQ

Could somebody determine what Beretta is used there? Is it M9A1 like in the first game? The flashlight attachment connected not only to the rail, but to the trigger guard too. At first I even thought that the trigger guard is rounded, indicating it's not F/FS, but then I realized that it was the flashlight that hid the guard's shape.

Killing Floor 2

2015-04-08T21:12:56Z

Blondie: I added several weapons with screenshots from recent gameplay footage.

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{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Killing Floor 2
|picture = Killing Floor 2.jpg
|caption = PC Boxart
|developer = Tripwire Interactive
|platforms= PC Linux
|publisher = Tripwire Interactive
|genre = First-Person Shooter
}}

'''''Killing Floor 2''''' (also refered as '''''KF2''''') is upcoming first-person survival coop shooter video game developed and published by Tripwire Interactive for the PC and Linux. It is sequel to [[Killing Floor|first Killing Floor game]].
The game is being developed on modified ''Unreal Engine 3''. Killing Floor 2 will come out on 21st april 2015 as early access title.

'''The following weapons appear in the game ''Killing Floor'':'''
__TOC__ 

= Handguns =

= Submachine Guns =
== Colt 9mm Submachine Gun ==
The Colt 9mm Submachine Gun, appearing as the "AR-15 Varmint Rifle", is the first Commando-perk weapon available. Although it is called "rifle" in game and is placed into Commando-perk weapons, this weapon is actually a submachine gun.
[[Image:Colt_R0991.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Colt 9mm SMG aka Colt R0991 with RIS handguard - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-ColtSMG-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Colt SMG drawn]]

= Shotguns =
== Benelli M4 Super 90 ==
The [[Benelli M Series Super 90 Shotguns#Benelli M4|Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun is the third weapon available for Support perk. It mounts a weaponlight as well as a red dot sight on the top rail. Like in first Killing Floor, it features 6-round tube magazine, indicating the use of three-inch shells.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Loading the Benelli M4]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-BenelliM4-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Benelli M4]]

== AA-12 CQB ==
The AA-12 is tier 4 weapon for Support class. It is fully automatic shotgun.

[[Image:AA-12 CQB.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AA-12 CQB - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12.jpeg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 fired in first person persective]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 AA-12 camo 3rd person.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AA-12 with camo from third person view]]

= Assault Rifles and Carbines =
== L85A2 ==
The [[SA80#L85A1|L85A1]] is the second Commando-perk weapon. It appears as the "SA80 L85A2 Bullpup", where SA80 refers to weapon series that L85A2 belongs. It is fitted with a EOtech holographic sight.
[[Image:L85A2Iron.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2 - 5.45x39mm.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-185A2-1_.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-L85A2-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|L85A2.]]

== AK-12 ==
The [[AK-12|AK-12]] is the third Commando-perk weapon. It is fitted with a Kobra red dot sight and a vertical foregrip.
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Reloading AK-12. Note visible 3-d bullets in the fresh magazine]]
[[Image:KillingFloor2-AK-12-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AK-12]]

= Battle Rifles =
== FN SCAR-H STD (Mark 17 Mod 0) ==
The [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H STD]] is referred as the "SCAR-H Assault Rifle", is the most powerful weapon for Commando perk. Like in first Killing Floor, it is equipped an M68 Aimpoint Close Combat Optic.

[[Image:FN_SCAR-H_STD.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H STD - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Killing Floor 2 SCAR.jpg|none|thumb|600px|SCAR-H Assault Rifle in-game]]

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[[Category:First-Person Shooter]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Zombie]]
[[Category:Horror]]