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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: /* Opening sequence gun */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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==Important Note==&lt;br /&gt;
An important note to editors: Please differentiate between &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; (firearm) and &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; (firearm). &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; (firearm) should only be used when you are describing 1 single firearm that can transfer hands as many times as it does, whereas &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; should be used when you are describing the same type of firearm, but have no proof to back up that that single firearm &amp;quot;storywise&amp;quot; was in other screenshots. Cpacu6o :) --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 19:50, 1 November 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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And please when adding episode titles for this show use the word &amp;quot;Versus&amp;quot; instead of the abbreviation &amp;quot;Vs.&amp;quot; since the official title for each episode spells it out such &amp;quot;Chuck Versus the Intersect&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:53, 2 November 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Episodes==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sergei, it just aired in US.  Please be patient.  (Also sign your posts) --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:43, 11 November 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Chuck  Versus The Business Trip, Viper uses a suppressed Browning Buckmark Pistol, and has an array of small arms layed out on her bed. --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 16:07, 19 November 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Additional Stills and screens==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:315ChuckRolemodels.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strahovski-ep303-034.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sarah and Chuck check on Casey]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strahovski-ep109-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Casey and Sarah stare into a shipping container in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Imported Hard Salami&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strahovski-ep207-049.jpg|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;I can't shoot him, he's the Intersect!!!&amp;quot; from &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Fat Lady&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strahovski-ep107-008.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sarah uses her 5906 in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Alma Mater&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strahovski-ep107-036.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sarah firing her 5906 in the classroom shootout in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Alma Mater&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strahovski-ep103-016.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sarah holding her 6906 thrown to her by Casey, on an MI6 agent who also seems remarkably unconcerned after having one of his men shot in the chest in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Tango.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Sarahsigmapromo.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Promotional image showing the slide]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Photo 1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|In &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Other Guy&amp;quot; Sarah pulls her 5906 on the director of The Ring in his private elevator shaft.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strahovski-ep313-065.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shaw holds his HK45C on the Ring Director in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Other Guy'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DanielShawS3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shaw firing his USP in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Ring Part II&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
I believe that he's firing just a normal USP with a stainless slide in this picture [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 14:23, 27 October 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Picture_479.jpg|thumb|none|300px|John Casey ([[Adam Baldwin]]) has a M4A1 Carbine with an Trijicon 4x ACOG scope and a vertical foregrip]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:LightsOutLOLOL.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Casey firing the Trank Gun through a false outlet in Season 3's &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Nacho Sampler&amp;quot;]][[File:Chuck shoot-300x168.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chuck shoots Ring agents with his Trank Gun in Season 3's &amp;quot;Chuck vs. Operation Awesome&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Trankgunfall.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chuck saving the day in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Cat Squad&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Tranq gunrsz.jpg|thumb|none|400px|.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strahovski-ep202-054.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Seduction,&amp;quot; Sasha Banachek's men hold Sarah with their Five-SeveN's]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Strahovski-ep409-055.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another view of Morgan's chrome Desert Eagle Mark I]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:S4castle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|General Beckmann briefing the team]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Custom Suppressed 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
I'll go and get a screenshot if no one else has one, but in Chuck vs. The Fat lady, the fulcrum agent from &amp;quot;Tuttle Electric&amp;quot; totes a i think silver safari matchmaster with wood grips, and a silver suppressor. he later uses it un suppressed to hold Jill at gunpoint on the Opera stage.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trank Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
The trank guns are Baby WE high capa 3.8 green gas airsoft guns. WE makes several variations of these high quality all metal airsoft guns that field strip, and function very much like the real deal. Chuck seems to use the variant that has 3 cuts in the slide that exposes the barrel. --[[User:James3|James3]] 07:33, 6 July 2011 Best Images:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/ecshop/images/200802/1203814245595151646.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/ecshop/images/200802/1203813613402154444.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.airsplat.com/Images/GP-WE-HiCapa-38.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.uncompany.com/images/we-baby3.8-cs-sv_big.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.justpistols.co.uk/we38_001.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eHanHmgWYSE/SM4srwGxsrI/AAAAAAAAAIA/CK6U1Y02ZdU/s320/gun_0313_2+WE+black+Hi+Capa.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/spawnvenom/IMG_0408.jpgCDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like a customized P226 with a 20 round magazine, the lack of a beavertail and the presence of the forward serrations make me think of the P226 Extreme. I also think it's what Casey has been carrying in the last few episodes. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 07:22, 3 June 2011 (CDT) - This is definitely the gun that Casey has been using namely the shootout at Ms. Winterbottom's house, I can tell by the long grip. Ms. Winterbottom refers to it as &amp;quot;That damn pea-shooter&amp;quot; - that being when she pulls an M60 from her dainty cedar chest. - Sergei Titov (Сергей Титов)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's not a P226 Extreme - doesn't have the right grips. Look at the slide design - it has the space between the cocking serrations and the rear of the slide that is seen only on the original German-made P226s with stamped-steel slides. It looks to me like this is an older-model SIG P226 that has been customized to look like a P226 Equinox, just as Casey's SIG P229 is an older-model 229 modified to look like an Equinox. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 09:03, 3 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Chuck 272.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is a Taurus PT911 or PT940. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 09:03, 3 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://images.wikia.com/chuck/images/9/92/Tranq_gun.jpg] - Business End of Trank Gun&lt;br /&gt;
[http://images.wikia.com/chuck/images/6/65/Weapon_stash.jpg] - Trank Gun (Lower Right Hand Corner)&lt;br /&gt;
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^ That's Chuck's &amp;quot;10mg Trank Gun&amp;quot; a Custom made Kimber Pro Covert II with a drilled slide, extended chrome barrel, and a red/green laser on a bottom accessory rack - Editors please note that this gun plays a major part in the series and should be added to the main page.&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG 229==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just have a quick question, for those of you who play video games: What game could Morgan possibly be referring to that would allow him to identify Casey's weapon as a SIG 229?  The only game I'm aware of that has the 229 is ''[[Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain]]'', and even then, the gun isn't IDed by name (to my understanding).  So what game might Morgan have played?  It's nothing particularly important; just curious. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::We can assume that Morgan is such a game dork that he would have identified (or had the gun verbally identified by another geek to him) while playing the game.  For the record, I know next to nothing about  Video Games.  When I have to choose hmmmm, shoot the 229 in a video game or shoot the 229 for real?  I tend to choose shooting the guns for real 100% of the time ;) LOL  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Honestly, I don't think the producers looked to see if it was in any games. They assumed that it would be in a game, and that Morgan's nerdiness would allow him to identfiy it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Enter the Matrix has a Sig 229 sporter in the game and it should be in any game dealing with the secret Service, and it is in &amp;quot;Secret Service: The Ultimate Sacrifice&amp;quot;. [[Spades of Columbia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't know much about video games either, but even in games about the secret service would they identify the weapon by its actual name? I thought video games always made up names for the weapons they feature, even if the weapons are based on real models. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I doubt they were thinking of it, they just wanted to show that although he is a nerd he can identify a weapon, besides TV shows and movies have often used games that don't exist for when character has to play something, why would they bother with thinking which game has the gun or if there is one that has it at all--[[Special:Contributions/188.112.128.8|188.112.128.8]] 13:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Good example: In &amp;quot;Chuck vs. the helicopter&amp;quot; I believe the simulator games mentioned were fictional.&lt;br /&gt;
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Going off on a bit of a tangent would Casey's SIG be chambered in .357 SIG as are the secret services 299's, i know morgan said it was a 9mm but this has never been confirmed either way and you never see and guns chambered in this calibur on television - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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:Enlarge it to full-size and you can see that it says &amp;quot;9mm Para&amp;quot; on the top of the barrel visible from the ejection port.  And the gun you see in this picture is ''the'' actual SIG 229 that Adam Baldwin uses on the show, as I wrote in the caption on the page.  So yes, I'd say that this '''does''' confirm his gun is a 9mm.  Remember, this is a TV show, not real life; Hollywood's armorers tend to use 9mm pistols instead of other calibers because 9mm used to be the easiest caliber to convert to blank-fire.  What the Secret Service uses in real life is irrelevant (and Casey is said to be NSA, anyway). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:20, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fair enough, It's just a shame we never get to see any of the more powerful lesser known rounds in movies/tv, but thanks for clearing that up - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock prop==&lt;br /&gt;
While I'm not sure, it's not likely the Glock 17 used is an airsoft gun from airsplat. Airsoft websites have a tendency to bs about having their guns used on movies and tv shows when they aren't, and since ISS was supplying plenty of real blank converted weapons it seems unlikely they'd use a gas blowback airsoft gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Well access to the weapons is not the primary point.  When you have a network budget, you ALWAYS have access to blank firing weapons.  But blanks ARE expensive and loud.  They could have been filming in a location that prohibited the live fire.  We all have been in areas where we could NOT fire loud blanks for one reason or another.  That's when you use the Gas blowback guns and have your post production guys add in flash, brass casings and gas from the ejection port (or in the case of SyFy channel original films, you use a spring airsoft gun, mime fire it and put in endless crappy CGI muzzle flashes that exceed the magazine capacity of the weapon).....   But NBC has a contract with ISS, so ALL GUNS in ALL NBC shows have to come from ISS, so one can assume that if they needed a non firing weapon, they would have just used an ISS non-gun (aka flashpaper gun).  mpm&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P228==&lt;br /&gt;
Did anyone notice in the episode &amp;quot;Chuck vs. the Aisle of Terror, how after disarming the CIA informant of his cocked P228, (looked to me like it was finished with Robar Np3) Casey decocked the gun while barely glancing at it?  I am not sure if this was part of the script, or a result of Adam Baldwin having used the nearly identical SIG-Sauer P229 for the past four seasons and being familiar with the system. - [[User:SIGmund|SIGmund]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was a factory nickel SIG P226 (I saw the squared trigger guard), not a P228. But yes, Adam Baldwin obviously was familiar with SIGs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:19, 30 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Where can I get a SIG finsihed like that?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the 229 looks awesome with polished flats, much better than factory 2 tone.&lt;br /&gt;
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:T.J.'s Custom Gun Works does it. They finished P229s in the same style for ''[[Mr. &amp;amp; Mrs. Smith]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you know im a 229 fanboy, just love them, Id like a 229R with a reduced power mainspring, and the lide flats polished like that (i dont like full out 2 tone.)&lt;br /&gt;
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CT rubber overmold lasergrips are comfy and id get some. Useful too. And Id NP3 the barrels, leave controld alone, polishing those is too much bling. Id get a .40, with a 357 sig barrel, and a 9mm bar sto conversion barrel and mec gar p228 mags. Then a .22 conversion slide. o i could have 4 calibers in one gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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==What does polishing slide flats require?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you add a new finish on or remove old finish? Wondering what finishes it can be done to, like nitron models, roguard, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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==P90's==&lt;br /&gt;
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volkovs men can be seen using P90's in season 4 episode 13 'Chuch vs the push mix'. just to let the page editors know :)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sig 552's==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Volkoff's gun==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like a double stack polymer 6 inch 1911. Only one I can think of is STI Eagle. Anybody got a caption to prove this?&lt;br /&gt;
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Look I'm new at uploading photos so if someone could direct me to a tutorial on how to get them the right size, make them fit in the box, etc that would be greatly appreciated. And that gun has an accessory rail underneath, you just can't see it in this picture. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Section has been added, however I am beginning to question whether or not it is the 5.0 and not the 6.0? --[[User:Sergei Titov|Sergei Titov]] 23:09, 25 October 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yup figured it out, its an STI Eagle 4.0 not 6.0 ;D --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 23:43, 25 October 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chuck Versus the Masquerade: SD gun of Female Officer in Volkoff's organization==&lt;br /&gt;
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The gun drawn by the Female Officer seems to be a Steyr M9-series. Can anyone corroborate?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.42|72.189.150.42]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yep, Steyr M9A1. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:30, 8 March 2011 (MSK)&lt;br /&gt;
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==what is this gun?==&lt;br /&gt;
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chuck vs the murderrr its used, striker fired had flat back of slide. Looks ruger sr-9/taurus 24/7ish in certain shots but has some front serrations?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looks like a two-tone [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson SW99]] to me. It was also shown close-up in the pile of the guns, and that's what I remember thinking it was then, too. They've also had SW99s in a couple episodes now, so it would make sense if they were reusing them again in this episode. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:58, 24 March 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was gonna say a Walther P99 but the rounded trigger guard changed my answer, so I agree with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson SW99]]. --[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Casey's gun switch==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me or did Casey switch guns in the latest episodes, I only noticed while I was watching &amp;quot;Chuck vs. Agent X&amp;quot;, but I don't recognise it, is there anyone that can identify it? -Jacco Croon-&lt;br /&gt;
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If it's the handgun, he switched to a custom Sig Sauer P226. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder why he switched? Seemed rather random to me. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:35, 29 August 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Post Ban Magazine? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know it says it's a post ban magazine but it looks like there's not even a magazine in there on the P229 custom.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a magazine, if you look at the size of the gap it's too small for a magazine to go in, and if you look around the outside of the gap you can see where the magazine meets with the grip towards the back. It might look like there is no magazine but there is definitely a magazine in there. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 11:55, 24 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's definitely a post-ban magazine. SIG post-ban mags all have a base plate with a huge gaping hole that extends up into the length of the magazine and limits their capacity (and they're also shorter in length than a standard-capacity mag, which means that you can't expand their capacity simply by swapping the base plates). You can see a picture of one [http://www.nelsontactical.com/products/images/sig/226-9mm-10Rd.jpg here]. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:25, 24 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That image also explains where the design of the SIG Sauer P226 airsoft magazines came from. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:08, 24 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trigger Discipline ==&lt;br /&gt;
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All I have to say on this subject is Bravo. It's not often you see many people on a TV show exercising trigger discipline but this show seems to have it down. I'm surprised but glad.--[[User:bristow8411|bristow8411]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chuck vs. The First Bank of Evil, Chuck vs. The Cougars ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think imfdb needs a screenshot of Sarah using two Steyr SPPs during the bank heist in Macau. Along side Chuck using two Hi Capa Baby WE Trank Guns. Here is a youtube clip of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2KCknsox6Q&lt;br /&gt;
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In Chuck vs. the Cougars, the Russian thugs are seen carrying suppressed Makarovs. Editors please note. Thank You :) --Сергей Титов&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barcode Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me or does the handgun hidden in the barcode scanner look more like a Glock variant than a SIG? [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah it's a Glock. 17 would be my guess. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 00:22, 19 October 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Just had a look and it's definitely a Glock due to the external extractor on the slide as opposed to the Springfield which doesn't have an external extractor. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:19, 1 January 2012 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Intersect Glasses===&lt;br /&gt;
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The creation of Manoosh in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Nacho Sampler&amp;quot;. Created by remnants of the destroyed Intersect 2.0; Intersect glasses are also used in &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Cliffhanger''.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Intersect-Glasses.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Claimed to turn a wimp into a Kung Fu master.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:MorganIntersectGlasses.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Intersect glasses intended for Chuck from General Beckmann, accidentally worn by Morgan transforming him into the new intersect in S4E24 &amp;quot;Chuck vs. The Cliffhanger&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== 226 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A pictures of Casey's new 226 would be nice. Just saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well Mr Anonymous why don't you create an account and screencap them yourself instead of trying to get other people to do it for you. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 02:03, 1 November 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sarah's Compact Pistol Continuity ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here's some pics of the pistol Sarah pulls from her purse in &amp;quot;Chuck Versus the Role Models&amp;quot;.  If another user can give definitive ID's in order to correct the page, it would be greatly appreciated.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:49, 2 November 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lack of Holsters ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems weird that for all being professional spys that all of the major characters just tuck their guns into the waist band of their pants unless they are in tactical gear or sarah has hers in her purse.  It seems weird that with options like in the waste band holsters they wouldn't use them.  I could see how chuck might not know about this kinda stuff but it seems surprising for sarah and extremely surprising for a gun enthusiast like casey.--[[User:Afpnj03|Afpnj03]] 18:24, 12 November 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never realised that until you pointed it out. You would expect at least Casey would use a holster for his SIG... --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:44, 12 November 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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They are always carrying them concealed. When they are unconcealed Casey keeps his in a titanium case, and Sarah keeps her 5906 wherever. they probably have concealed waistband holsters, or just none at all because for the instances where they are concealed... they won't be concealed for long. --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 21:49, 12 November 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sarah definitely doesn't have a waistband holster, several times it's just tucked in her trousers. Not even a IWB holster which would be a lot safer than just sticking it in her trousers. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 09:28, 13 November 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I only really noticed it when chuck first gets his via job in season 3 and goes to beck mans office and the gun falls out of the back of his pants, and at that point i realized who weird it was that none of them had holsters and that the via/nsa didn't issue them or something.--[[User:Afpnj03|Afpnj03]] 14:15, 13 November 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Split into seasons?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, this page is well past due. For a show that's on its fifth season and features such a ridiculous number of firearms, this page needed to be split up ages ago. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:04, 13 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Usually I would say yes, but I would recommend NOT doing it because this is the last season and the series isn't adding a massive amount of new guns.  Also there's a lot of overlap of guns between seasons.   --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 20:55, 13 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Overlap of guns does not mean that we don't create new pages for the different seasons when they get to be THIS long. Same applies to the show ending. This page is just too huge, and I'm not even sure it's complete (off the top of my head, I can recall at least a half-dozen other types of firearms from the show that haven't been included here, and I am sure that there are many, many more). I think it needs to be split up. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:20, 13 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually, let me re-phrase that: The issue isn't so much missing weapons so much as missing documentation of who used what. I don't know the hell anyone missed the fact that Jill ([[Jordana Brewster]]) used the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913#Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;]] as her sidearm in Season 2 (I remember there was even a very good close-up of it in the first episode where she used it). The page only documents that gun's brief appearance in Season 1. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:29, 13 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah I didn't want to split up Miami Vice at first, but it damn sure made things easier when it was. Viewing and loading are way easier. Overlap? The only major overlap you get is the main characters sidearms. This page is 90k, it shouldn't be more than 30k. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:39, 13 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Well, if someone wants to split it up then, go right ahead.  If there are any more missing weapons, please specify what episode they're seen in.   You can see that a lot of the screenshots are marked with what episode they are in.   --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:51, 17 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Due to the constant updating of this page, I've changed my mind and will be dividing this page into seasons soon.  Would appreciate some help with this.  --17:46, 3 January 2012 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== caseys Sig ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i was just looking on the Mr. and Mrs. Smith page and i believe that the sig on that page is the same as Casey's any ideaS?[[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 20:36, 20 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I had the same thought, but my contact at ISS didn't tell me whether they were the same gun, and he's usually told me whenever they reuse particular weapons in different movies/TV series (i.e. he told me that the M4/M203 from ''[[Transformers]]'' was also used in ''[[Rambo (2008)|Rambo]]''). As far as he implied to me, the SIG 229 used in ''[[Chuck]]'' was customized just for this show, but it was done by the same gunsmith (T.J.'s Custom Gun Works). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:42, 20 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Casey's Sig+Ryker's Sig ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like the armorers gave Ryker Casey's SIG for the scene where Sarah is captive in the chair. I can't tell for sure if it's the same gun but it appears to have the same nickel accents on the slide release and decocker. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 00:39, 31 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Opening sequence gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the pistol depicted in the opening of the show is a Blow FO6 blank fire only gun.  It's been said it's a hybrid of a Beretta 92, and a Jerrico 941.   --[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] ([[User talk:AndCA|talk]]) 19:50, 17 December 2012 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>AndCA</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_weapons_used_by_U.S._Armed_Forces&amp;diff=591633</id>
		<title>Talk:List of weapons used by U.S. Armed Forces</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_weapons_used_by_U.S._Armed_Forces&amp;diff=591633"/>
		<updated>2012-07-19T03:06:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: Created page with &amp;quot;Thank you to whoever created this page, I've thought a lot about trying to do a page like this myself, since a lot of people on this site like to point out &amp;quot;That isn't what a sol...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Thank you to whoever created this page, I've thought a lot about trying to do a page like this myself, since a lot of people on this site like to point out &amp;quot;That isn't what a solder/officer in such and such military of law enforcement agency would use in real life.&amp;quot;  Maybe if this page proves to be popular we could do other pages about other agencies. --[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] 22:06, 18 July 2012 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>AndCA</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:1911_Gallery&amp;diff=536223</id>
		<title>Talk:1911 Gallery</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:1911_Gallery&amp;diff=536223"/>
		<updated>2012-03-22T21:35:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: /* Discussion */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Discussion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please add your thoughts regarding this page here:&lt;br /&gt;
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:I am in the process of creating a similar page for the SIG-Sauer P220 series, but with ways to identify them from each other. I like this idea and think it could be beneficial to allow users to have all the variants in one place, rather than scroll through the entire page. In some cases, the pages don't have ALL the variants, so this is a good spot to place them.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 20:19, 21 March 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Pages like these show just how supersaturated the market is for M1911-type pistols. There are already so many, and yet companies are still building MORE types, and the public just eats it up. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 09:26, 22 March 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe it's just me, if you're going to do a page like this. It should be broken down more than just standard and compact. You have the GI military style (M1911, Springfield GI, RIA), Government Model (Series 70, Springfield Mil-Spec), Enhanced (Combat Elite, TRP) and Race gun (STI, Infinity). The Commander size 4&amp;quot; and 4.25&amp;quot; barrels should have their own section. Same with the Officer 3&amp;quot; barrel. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 11:22, 22 March 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Predator, i totally agree! This idea is still a work in progress and that is exactly the sort of feedback i wanted to hear! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:40, 22 March 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Any plans to do a page for AK's or AR's? --[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] 16:35, 22 March 2012 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>AndCA</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Mission:_Impossible_(1996)&amp;diff=496712</id>
		<title>Talk:Mission: Impossible (1996)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Mission:_Impossible_(1996)&amp;diff=496712"/>
		<updated>2011-12-14T22:16:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: /* Berretta and Sig */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Moved from main page ==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Trivia''': Jim Phelps ([[Jon Voight]]) is the only character in the entire movie who has fired a gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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Moved by: --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:44, 3 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Berretta and Sig == &lt;br /&gt;
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If both the Cougar and Sig 225 are 9mm, why are there 75 rounds for one gun and only 20 something for the other. &lt;br /&gt;
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Could Hunt's Cougar be a .45?&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe there were five 15 round magazines for the Beretta.  and 95 rounds total.--[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] 16:16, 14 December 2011 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to revamp this page soon.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 10:58, 23 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gun grip&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ew, cup-and-saucer? Not quite an excellent grip. The two handed high grip gives much better control. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
What the?Why are they squished? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnes' machine pistol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trying to identify Barnes' machine pistol.  I looks like an MP9, but I'm not sure. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 11:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:SteyrTMP.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Steyr TMP 9x19mm]] &lt;br /&gt;
My guess. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 5900==&lt;br /&gt;
'''[moved from main page]'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MI1 005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An IMF agent with his suppressed S&amp;amp;W covers the team raiding the apartment.]]&lt;br /&gt;
That looks more like a supressed Beretta 92FS to me.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Makarov PM==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, first time poster here - sorry I don't have an account to edit the page but I want to mention that the last &amp;quot;Makarov PM&amp;quot; looks distinctly like a CZ-82.&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps a continuation error on the part of the director? Or maybe I'm wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
Feel free to delete my comment when this is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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yeah that last picture looks exactly like a cz82, look at the hammer its a beaver tail rather than the rounded makarov hammer.&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The trigger guard definitely makes it a Makarov --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 06:03, 13 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
look up cz 82's plus look at the hammer they are spurred as in the last picture, the makarov has a spud hammer.&lt;br /&gt;
plus notice the shiny bakelite grips with a groove for the left thumb and also the grooves on the slide lead up directly to the ejection port unlike the makarov which stops half way. Also hard to see but the ambidextrous slide release is slightly visible.  It is not a cz83 but a 9x18 cz82.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>AndCA</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Blue_Bloods&amp;diff=486395</id>
		<title>Talk:Blue Bloods</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Blue_Bloods&amp;diff=486395"/>
		<updated>2011-11-20T22:32:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;In an Episode, his partner, Jackie is taken hostage and Danny pulls his Kahr K9. --[[User:Thomas|Thomas]] 03:24, 20 November 2011 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>AndCA</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Blue_Bloods&amp;diff=486127</id>
		<title>Talk:Blue Bloods</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Blue_Bloods&amp;diff=486127"/>
		<updated>2011-11-20T05:39:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: Created page with &amp;quot;Actually I think Danny carries a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 5946, which is one of the pistols permitted by the real NYPD, and I think he carries in in both seasons.  --~~~~&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Actually I think Danny carries a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 5946, which is one of the pistols permitted by the real NYPD, and I think he carries in in both seasons.  --[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] 23:39, 19 November 2011 (CST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>AndCA</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Rambo_III&amp;diff=456922</id>
		<title>Talk:Rambo III</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Rambo_III&amp;diff=456922"/>
		<updated>2011-09-09T22:46:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Excellent work with the page, it came out great. Thanks for adding his knife and bow, I appreciate it. I also like the trivia section at the bottom. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you like the few shots I added? -GM&lt;br /&gt;
::thanks for the deleted scenes, I don't have them on my DVD.  FYI, I don't like the M203 shot that you replaced my shot with.  Though it shows him firing, it is blurrier than my shot and I posted the previous shot to get a clearer view of how the weapon was mated together.  I'm reverting it back.  Also thanks for the RGD-1 grenades, but I've already uploaded the files but haven't had time to do the section yet. Great shots of the Knife and bow!  I did have some shots of from the grenade 'field' but yours had better color so I ended up not using mine.&lt;br /&gt;
:I should have asked before I changed the M203 shot. Your right, yours was better. Sorry I stole your grenade section.&lt;br /&gt;
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*It should be noted that while the armourers uses MISRs because authentic Russian weapons were unavailable, they are correct for the Mujahideen because Egyptian rifles were supplied to the Mujahideen by the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
::The MISRs were identical to the Soviet AKM.  Since they could easily have been equipped with captured AKMs from the puppet Afghan communist troops this is a non issue.  Armorers in the US used ARMs (which was the U.S. imported named of the Egyptian MISR).  We should NOT call it an MISR because later, just before the CLINTON BAN, cheaply made crap rifles CALLED the MISR were imported and were not on par with the original ARMs (AKMs).  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:15, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moved discussion from movie page==&lt;br /&gt;
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-Actually Norinco made a copy of the M203 40mm grenade launcher to be used with AK type weapons. As does Romania. So this setup is believable -Spectre85 &lt;br /&gt;
::No it is ridiculous ... since the weapon is supposed to be RUSSIAN, not Chinese (since the weapon was taken off of a Spetnaz Sergeant) and the Russians never used M203 or clones of the M203 during this time period.  Also I've never heard of a Norinco M203 so please furnish a link or something to prove this. This is very intriguing information.  &lt;br /&gt;
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AG-40 Here is a link for the Romanian AG-40 -Spectre85&lt;br /&gt;
::It's still ridiculous because it's anachronistic.  None of these M203 rip off clones were made in the 1980s when the film was shot and set.  So the set up is ridiculous.  MPM2008&lt;br /&gt;
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Did'nt the Mujahideen use captured AK's with a M203 attached? Obviously supplied by the CIA with GL's ammo, and the rifle ammo they scrounged for. I do vaguely remember an abs model kit version with wooden stock AK &amp;amp; M203GL that was available in the mid 1980's.&lt;br /&gt;
::I collected all the ABS kits from the 1980s and I think you're remembering something  which did not exist.  As for the CIA, except for the Stingers, all the small arms they supplied were Soviet in design.  &lt;br /&gt;
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- As far as the multiple shots from the M203, Rambo picks up at least two grenades from the sand after defeating Sgt. Kourov. With one already chambered in the launcher, he could have three or four shots. He is seen reloading it when he and Trautman are taking cover in the ditch.&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the loading scene is the FIRST grenade.  He never reloads after the battle starts, of course this could have been edited out or not shot.  There is another scene mentioned in the film where Rambo picks up an enemy gun and the shot was removed by the editor and makes it look like Rambo magically as a new rifle.  MPM2008&lt;br /&gt;
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== T-64 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the Western-style fume extractor I suspect the tank is an Israeli Ti-67 with a 105mm gun vice a true T-64, same as was used on The Beast.  &lt;br /&gt;
::Wrong.  It's a T-62.  Sure they may have added on some mods, but it's NOT a T64.  The the Ti-67 from the Beast is a modified T-55, not a 62.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the FN MAG isn't really missing the butt, that's the correct configuration when firing from a mount. The butt comes off and you just attach the rear plate.&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, the Soviet army used in Afghanistan, the only type of tank - T-62. All references to the T-72, T-64 or any other types of tanks are wrong. [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 20:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Since the page is locked I can't add this ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen photos showing the slit in the survival knife was originally intended to accomodate an extremely silly &amp;quot;wing blade&amp;quot; accessory that never made it into the movie; I could probably find one if there was any chance of it being added. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:16, 27 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Here's the image, anyway.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Image:RamboIIIProto_c.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I guess originally the Soviets were going to make Rambo fight a Klingon or something. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:50, 20 April 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, apparently the T-72 is built on the running gear of a surplus US Army M8A1 Cargo Tractor, which in turn was based on the M41 Walker Bulldog chassis. The fake ZSU, there's contradictory information about whether it was built on a second M8A1, an M41, or a Sheridan. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:31, 29 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It ain't no Sheridan (not even close) and it isn't a M41 Walker either. Check it out.  SIX lower bogey wheels.  The M41 has only FIVE and the Sheridan has no smaller upper bogey wheels at all.  The M8A1 matches the best in both cases. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:42, 29 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just checked the Red Dawn page and fixing it. They're both M8A1 Cargo Tractors.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Us cargo carrier m8e2-003.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:56, 29 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a note about the info at the top of the page about the production, Pete Wilson was A U.S. Senator at the time, not a California state senator.  --[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] 17:46, 9 September 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>AndCA</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:NCIS:_Los_Angeles_-_Season_1&amp;diff=448240</id>
		<title>Talk:NCIS: Los Angeles - Season 1</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:NCIS:_Los_Angeles_-_Season_1&amp;diff=448240"/>
		<updated>2011-08-17T00:49:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: /* Colt Detective Special */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Clarification==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-1x12-REVOLVER-1.2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The killers Smith &amp;amp; Wesson revolver. (Sharpened)]]&lt;br /&gt;
I know diddly squat about revolvers, other than it's a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson, I haven't got much of a clue. They all look pretty much the same to me. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:52, 14 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Moved from the main page'': To me it looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 67 with a two inch barrel. I say the Model 67 because it probably is steel framed and has adjustable sights. --[[User:96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 17:34, 14 January  2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Also moved from the main page'': This is a 2in. barreled Model 15 Combat Masterpiece,nickel plated;the stainless variant the M-67 was only made in 4in. Looks like Pachmayr grips.The excellent screencap reveals that it is actually unloaded. &lt;br /&gt;
Hope this helps.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regards,&lt;br /&gt;
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Tecolote&lt;br /&gt;
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Unknown sniper rifle? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-1x05-SNIPER-RIFLE-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Any ideas about this, or any of the other unknowns? Anyone? [[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It looks very similar to the Accuracy International Arctic Warfare AWM. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Accuracy International Arctic WarfareM - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Accuracy International AWSM in chambered in .338 lapua]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think it looks like a Remington Model 7 (with a telescoping sniper buttstock and Parker Hale Bipod)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RemingtonModelSevenSuppressed.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington Model Seven Compact Rifle with Integral Sound Suppressor and customized thumb cut stock - .223 Remington. Photographed for IMFDB by MPM2008 from his own Movie Gun Collection.  These rifles come in 17 Rem Fireball, .204 Ruger, .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .243 Win.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From what I can see, the back end of the bolt doesn't look the same. More images:&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|1st shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|2nd shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 08:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Well-G22-sniper.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]This airsoft gun seems to be quite similar, especially the stock [[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
its actually a fictional airsoft gun [[Media:http://www.airsplat.com/Items/AR-WELL-MB05-C2.htm]] i think, i am probably not correct, but feel free to correct me, as i am a noob&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not impossible. Definitely modified though. New muzzle break, suppressor and the buttpad (Correct term? Sounds dirty.) is upside down. The grip also has something extra on the bottom.&lt;br /&gt;
So what do we call it? --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 05:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Probably a custom job, she is one of North Korea's top assassins, to maybe she had it built custom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If I was an assassin, I would NEVER custom order anything, because it would leave a paper trail.--[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 20:27, 17 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think he meant custom built by an NK military armorer, kinda like how our special operations units have all their weapons custom built/tuned for individual preferences. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 01:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M47 Dragon==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do not think this is a Dragon but rather it is more a factual error on the part of the show's producers.  The M47 Dragon, as far as I know, is no longer in front line service with any branch of the US military and was pretty much phased out of service in the late 1990s so I doubt if it would be in the armory of a front line Marine unit.  In addition the sight unit of the weapon displayed does not look anything like the one on the actual Dragon launcher. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Aren't you refuting your own argument?  Of course this is a factual error because it's a TV show.  It doesn't represent reality, so the armorers used the M47 here even if it's no longer used by the Marines in real life.  Thinking about real life isn't such a good way to determine what weapons are used in a FICTIONAL TV show. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==So what do you guys think about this show?==&lt;br /&gt;
I personally don't like it, but I want to know what you guys think.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I personally think it's better than NUMB3RS.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I prefer the original NCIS, but I like LA. [[User:Ramell|Ramell]] 11:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==m40 rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We sure its an m40? Looks like a standard remington 700 sps varmint with spray paint on it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mossberg 500 Cruiser ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Mossberg500Cruiser-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the robbers with his Mossberg 500 Cruiser.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the same one seen on Justified, right?&lt;br /&gt;
Probably same Armourer or something since they are both recent shows.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Splitting article to seasons==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should we? I don't mind doing it. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 03:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not yet.  It's only been 2 seasons.  The original NCIS is at 8 seasons and it's still on one page.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Fine if that's the case. Need to note on what weapons were seen in the 2nd season. Some of the others decided to split the 24 article as it was getting way too long. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:17, 22 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Anti gun==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone else think this? [[User:SAMBAMA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How? And sign your posts--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 02:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remember that episode with the militia? [[User:SAMBAMA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
its a show about law enforcement in California...it almost has to have some what of a underlined message about civilians and anti-gun attitudes...definitely with the media portrayed militia groups. I'm not saying real militia groups but the fake ones that they like to show in movies that are all raciest back country folk.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:First of all, one episode doesn't necessarily mean the entire show is anti-gun. This show, like most TV shows, has had many, many writers depending on episode/season. Different writers can have different political sentiments. Of course, this isn't to deny that Hollywood is full of people who are gun-hating leftists, or at least pay lip service to left-leaning ideas (every gun owner in America knows this).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyway, I have mentioned on the talk page for ''[[Talk:MacGyver|MacGyver]]'' that IMFDB is not a political site, and we do not care about or discuss politics here. We exist to document guns in movies, period, regardless of the political sentiments held by the cast/crew of said movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The militia episode showed them with g36c, m4a1, etc. These aren't &amp;quot;civilian&amp;quot; guns, they weren't shown buying these at the local gun store. Besides, gun handling is very good, excellent grips and trigger control by main characters.&lt;br /&gt;
-[[user:k9870]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Suppressed guns used in &amp;quot;Deliverance&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Absolution&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone ID the suppressed guns used by the BND assassins to shoot Sebastian Renner in &amp;quot;Deliverance&amp;quot; and the gun aimed at Hetty by Mattias? I think that they are all Walther PPKs.--[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 23:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Suppressed Sniper Rifle used in &amp;quot;Empty Quiver&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone ID the sniper rifle that Kensi used in &amp;quot;Empty Quiver?&amp;quot; --[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 17:01, 19 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you, Ominae.--[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 13:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Assassin's Glock &amp;quot;17&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Glock wielded by the assassin, noted as a Glock 17, looks more like a 19 or other Glock semi-compact to me, judging by the distance between top of the trigger guard and end of the barrel. Anyone care to confirm this (or not)? - [[User:TrueBeliever19|TrueBeliever19]] 21:09, 27 February 2011&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==MP5A4?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The obvious SEF trigger group in the first picture makes me doubt those are really MP5A4s. I didn't see the episode, so if they fired in 3-round bursts I don't know. Unless there's another characteristic of A4s that A2s don't have, I'd say those are all MP5A2s. [[User:MrOshimida27|MrOshimida27]] 22:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hetty Lange's unidentified revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've been looking for a long time now to find a weapon that Hetty briefly used in a scene in S02E23 (Imposters) and it was shown again in S02E24 (Familia). It was mounted to a some kind of an arm rack. I'm sure a picture will tell a thousand words, here they are:&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NCIS_LA_Hetty_Lange_revolver1.JPG|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here Hetty pulls (rather slides) it out of her sleeve, bugging off the uninvited. (S02E23)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NCIS_LA_Hetty_Lange_revolver3.JPG|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here Hetty uses it against two men to deliver a message to the Comescu. (S02E24)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NCIS_LA_Hetty_Lange_revolver2.JPG|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After Sam, G., Deeks and Kensi clear the building that Hetty was in before, Sam picks up Hetty's pistol, mounted to an arm rack(?). (S02E24)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It would also be nice to know what these kinds of &amp;quot;racks&amp;quot; are actually called, although I'm quite certain it was partly fantasy, but I'd be surprised if no-one has tried to manufacture one of such things. Thank you for all the help you can give me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
UPDATE: After a little venturing I found that it's probably an NAA .22 Magnum (or .22LR) Mini-Revolver. But I'm still quite interested in the rack, if someone could please shed some light on it, thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Colt Detective Special ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think the Colt Detective Special is actually a Charter Arms of some varitey.  Look at the shape of the trigger guard and cylinder latch.  [[File:NCIS_LA_S&amp;amp;W_66.jpg]][[File:CharterArmsBulldogSilver.jpg]]--[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] 11:00, 11 August 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry about the size of the pictures, first time I've done this.--[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] 19:49, 16 August 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:NCIS: Los Angeles - Season 1</title>
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&lt;div&gt;==Clarification==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-1x12-REVOLVER-1.2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The killers Smith &amp;amp; Wesson revolver. (Sharpened)]]&lt;br /&gt;
I know diddly squat about revolvers, other than it's a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson, I haven't got much of a clue. They all look pretty much the same to me. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:52, 14 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Moved from the main page'': To me it looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 67 with a two inch barrel. I say the Model 67 because it probably is steel framed and has adjustable sights. --[[User:96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 17:34, 14 January  2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:''Also moved from the main page'': This is a 2in. barreled Model 15 Combat Masterpiece,nickel plated;the stainless variant the M-67 was only made in 4in. Looks like Pachmayr grips.The excellent screencap reveals that it is actually unloaded. &lt;br /&gt;
Hope this helps.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regards,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tecolote&lt;br /&gt;
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Unknown sniper rifle? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-1x05-SNIPER-RIFLE-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any ideas about this, or any of the other unknowns? Anyone? [[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It looks very similar to the Accuracy International Arctic Warfare AWM. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Accuracy International Arctic WarfareM - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Accuracy International AWSM in chambered in .338 lapua]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think it looks like a Remington Model 7 (with a telescoping sniper buttstock and Parker Hale Bipod)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RemingtonModelSevenSuppressed.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington Model Seven Compact Rifle with Integral Sound Suppressor and customized thumb cut stock - .223 Remington. Photographed for IMFDB by MPM2008 from his own Movie Gun Collection.  These rifles come in 17 Rem Fireball, .204 Ruger, .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .243 Win.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From what I can see, the back end of the bolt doesn't look the same. More images:&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|1st shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|2nd shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 08:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Well-G22-sniper.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]This airsoft gun seems to be quite similar, especially the stock [[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
its actually a fictional airsoft gun [[Media:http://www.airsplat.com/Items/AR-WELL-MB05-C2.htm]] i think, i am probably not correct, but feel free to correct me, as i am a noob&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not impossible. Definitely modified though. New muzzle break, suppressor and the buttpad (Correct term? Sounds dirty.) is upside down. The grip also has something extra on the bottom.&lt;br /&gt;
So what do we call it? --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 05:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Probably a custom job, she is one of North Korea's top assassins, to maybe she had it built custom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If I was an assassin, I would NEVER custom order anything, because it would leave a paper trail.--[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 20:27, 17 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think he meant custom built by an NK military armorer, kinda like how our special operations units have all their weapons custom built/tuned for individual preferences. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 01:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M47 Dragon==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do not think this is a Dragon but rather it is more a factual error on the part of the show's producers.  The M47 Dragon, as far as I know, is no longer in front line service with any branch of the US military and was pretty much phased out of service in the late 1990s so I doubt if it would be in the armory of a front line Marine unit.  In addition the sight unit of the weapon displayed does not look anything like the one on the actual Dragon launcher. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Aren't you refuting your own argument?  Of course this is a factual error because it's a TV show.  It doesn't represent reality, so the armorers used the M47 here even if it's no longer used by the Marines in real life.  Thinking about real life isn't such a good way to determine what weapons are used in a FICTIONAL TV show. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==So what do you guys think about this show?==&lt;br /&gt;
I personally don't like it, but I want to know what you guys think.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I personally think it's better than NUMB3RS.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I prefer the original NCIS, but I like LA. [[User:Ramell|Ramell]] 11:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==m40 rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We sure its an m40? Looks like a standard remington 700 sps varmint with spray paint on it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mossberg 500 Cruiser ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Mossberg500Cruiser-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the robbers with his Mossberg 500 Cruiser.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the same one seen on Justified, right?&lt;br /&gt;
Probably same Armourer or something since they are both recent shows.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Splitting article to seasons==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should we? I don't mind doing it. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 03:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not yet.  It's only been 2 seasons.  The original NCIS is at 8 seasons and it's still on one page.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Fine if that's the case. Need to note on what weapons were seen in the 2nd season. Some of the others decided to split the 24 article as it was getting way too long. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:17, 22 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Anti gun==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone else think this? [[User:SAMBAMA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How? And sign your posts--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 02:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remember that episode with the militia? [[User:SAMBAMA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
its a show about law enforcement in California...it almost has to have some what of a underlined message about civilians and anti-gun attitudes...definitely with the media portrayed militia groups. I'm not saying real militia groups but the fake ones that they like to show in movies that are all raciest back country folk.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:First of all, one episode doesn't necessarily mean the entire show is anti-gun. This show, like most TV shows, has had many, many writers depending on episode/season. Different writers can have different political sentiments. Of course, this isn't to deny that Hollywood is full of people who are gun-hating leftists, or at least pay lip service to left-leaning ideas (every gun owner in America knows this).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyway, I have mentioned on the talk page for ''[[Talk:MacGyver|MacGyver]]'' that IMFDB is not a political site, and we do not care about or discuss politics here. We exist to document guns in movies, period, regardless of the political sentiments held by the cast/crew of said movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The militia episode showed them with g36c, m4a1, etc. These aren't &amp;quot;civilian&amp;quot; guns, they weren't shown buying these at the local gun store. Besides, gun handling is very good, excellent grips and trigger control by main characters.&lt;br /&gt;
-[[user:k9870]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Suppressed guns used in &amp;quot;Deliverance&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Absolution&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone ID the suppressed guns used by the BND assassins to shoot Sebastian Renner in &amp;quot;Deliverance&amp;quot; and the gun aimed at Hetty by Mattias? I think that they are all Walther PPKs.--[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 23:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Suppressed Sniper Rifle used in &amp;quot;Empty Quiver&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone ID the sniper rifle that Kensi used in &amp;quot;Empty Quiver?&amp;quot; --[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 17:01, 19 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you, Ominae.--[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 13:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Assassin's Glock &amp;quot;17&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Glock wielded by the assassin, noted as a Glock 17, looks more like a 19 or other Glock semi-compact to me, judging by the distance between top of the trigger guard and end of the barrel. Anyone care to confirm this (or not)? - [[User:TrueBeliever19|TrueBeliever19]] 21:09, 27 February 2011&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==MP5A4?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The obvious SEF trigger group in the first picture makes me doubt those are really MP5A4s. I didn't see the episode, so if they fired in 3-round bursts I don't know. Unless there's another characteristic of A4s that A2s don't have, I'd say those are all MP5A2s. [[User:MrOshimida27|MrOshimida27]] 22:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hetty Lange's unidentified revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've been looking for a long time now to find a weapon that Hetty briefly used in a scene in S02E23 (Imposters) and it was shown again in S02E24 (Familia). It was mounted to a some kind of an arm rack. I'm sure a picture will tell a thousand words, here they are:&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NCIS_LA_Hetty_Lange_revolver1.JPG|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here Hetty pulls (rather slides) it out of her sleeve, bugging off the uninvited. (S02E23)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NCIS_LA_Hetty_Lange_revolver3.JPG|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here Hetty uses it against two men to deliver a message to the Comescu. (S02E24)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NCIS_LA_Hetty_Lange_revolver2.JPG|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After Sam, G., Deeks and Kensi clear the building that Hetty was in before, Sam picks up Hetty's pistol, mounted to an arm rack(?). (S02E24)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It would also be nice to know what these kinds of &amp;quot;racks&amp;quot; are actually called, although I'm quite certain it was partly fantasy, but I'd be surprised if no-one has tried to manufacture one of such things. Thank you for all the help you can give me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
UPDATE: After a little venturing I found that it's probably an NAA .22 Magnum (or .22LR) Mini-Revolver. But I'm still quite interested in the rack, if someone could please shed some light on it, thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Colt Detective Special ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think the Colt Detective Special is actually a Charter Arms of some varitey.  Look at the shape of the trigger guard and cylinder latch.  [[File:NCIS_LA_S&amp;amp;W_66.jpg]][[File:CharterArmsBulldogSilver.jpg]]--[[User:AndCA|AndCA]] 11:00, 11 August 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:FN Minimi</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-17T20:35:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: /* M249 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==M249==&lt;br /&gt;
:My dad REALLY wants an M249. Is this impossible?&lt;br /&gt;
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::There are a handful of transferable FN Minimis in the United States.  Long Mountain Outfitters had one for sale, but it was priced at about $100,000. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh well. Christmas is going to be dissapointing for him hahaha-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]] 19:47, 21 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, unless he's a rich lawyer who would pay $100K for a performance car, whenever he hits his mid-life crisis. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:He works too hard to blow alot of $ on something he doesn't need-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]] 21:07, 21 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ohio Ordnance makes semi &amp;amp; full auto versions of many machine gun designs, including the FN Minimi, don't know about pricing, or how much red tape you'd have to go though but here's their site.  http://ohioordnanceworks.com/&lt;br /&gt;
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==STANAG Compatibility==&lt;br /&gt;
According to Wikipedia the Minimi/M249 SAW are compatible with 30-round STANAG magazines and the 5.56mm Beta-C magazine. How common, if at all, would this be in the US military? [[User:MrOshimida27|MrOshimida27]] 18:23, 6 April 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Very uncommon the Minimi is unreliable with any sort of magazine. It's a mechanical flaw in the feed system. The weapon runs great with belts but put in a magazine and the reliability drops to nothing. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 18:32, 6 April 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Heckler &amp; Koch USP</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-15T02:25:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;AndCA: /* LAPD service weapons */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Additional Variants==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:IMFDB 22 Jack Bauer Live Firing HK USP Compact.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''World IMFDB Exclusive:''' Screen-used live firing Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP Compact. This weapon is verified as screen used from the series '''24.''' The gun was used in numerous scenes throughout Seasons 3 through 8 of the series. IMFDB thanks [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/ The Golden Closet] for providing this photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ExDeUSP.jpg|none|thumb|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP .45 ACP mocked up to resemble a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23]], with a LAM unit and fake Knight's Armament suppressor, used by [[Kurt Russell]] in the film ''[[Executive Decision]]''. (Photo from Long Mountain Outfitters)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blade2-2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|[[H&amp;amp;K USP#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP Match|H&amp;amp;K USP Match]]s - 9x19mm used by [[Wesley Snipes]] in the movies ''[[Blade II]]'' and ''[[Blade: Trinity]]''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hk-usp45c.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP Compact - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:USPCompactSS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|H&amp;amp;K USP Compact with Stainless Slide - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a great, affordable, light, accurate, and reliable handgun. It has been my BUG for 9 years and I wouldn't have it any other way.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but, &amp;quot;affordable&amp;quot;?  Surely you concede that a new USP costs more than any other polymer-framed service pistol on the market (and often more than some steel-framed pistols)? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well yes the USP is expensive but the old fart has gotta point, it's a pretty awesome gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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Without a doubt my favorite tactical handgun&lt;br /&gt;
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My favorite is the Expert model&lt;br /&gt;
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:I would buy a USP45 in a second if they did something about the trigger-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]]&lt;br /&gt;
--You CAN take it to a gunsmith and have the trigger cleaned up. You might try the Expert model or the Mark 23 if you want a better trigger. Heck, if you're going to go spend $1,500 to $2,000 on a gun, might as well get something you like. I honestly would rather spend that kind of money on a Les Baer or something, but the USP is good too.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a question, is the USP Match just a regular USP with the compensator? Are there any othere differences? Is the compensator removable?&lt;br /&gt;
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It has target sights, an adjustable trigger, and the barrel is extended. The compensator can be removed, but doing so leaves you with a rather awkward looking barrel. It also has the same rubber o-ring around the barrel that the Mk. 23 has.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I love the gun except it's got one squeeky ass trigger.&lt;br /&gt;
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-The best two USP models are the Expert and the Mark 23. That's coming directly from my friends who have shot both in IDPA for years. The Expert and Mark 23 both have better, more cleaned up triggers compared to the base USP models. All of them are exceptionally accurate and reliable. The only compromise you have to make is in the wallet. They aren't cheap.&lt;br /&gt;
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It has everything. Accurate, lightweight, high ammo capacity, virtually indestructible. But it's big (big grip - don't believe me - hold a Mark 23). And they are expensive.&lt;br /&gt;
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Funny how its a $1,000 dollar gun yet has a horrible DA trigger pull. I would expect it from a Glock at $500 but a USP? Really?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==LAPD service weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it legal for LAPD to use USPs in real life or was it just made up for 24?&lt;br /&gt;
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It's not an official issue weapon, at least according to Wikipedia. Only the Beretta 92, various S&amp;amp;W Automatics and Glocks. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:17, 24 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wikipedia is not a reliable source for information, because it is a Wiki like IMFDB. --[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 19:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I know for fact the LAPD does use the Beretta (I would think it's kinda common-knowledge, at least to us gun guys), and I have seen LAPD officers with a couple of different S&amp;amp;W autos. I also agree that the USP is not any official service weapon (or at least, I seriously doubt it is). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:48, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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LAPD also uses the Kimber TLE II 1911. (They call it the LAPD SWAT Custom). But detectives use this gun as well as LAPD SWAT teams.&lt;br /&gt;
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I've never seen any LAPD officers with Glocks. Just about all of them have the Beretta 92FS because that's their standard issue sidearm. And the occasional old-timers with the 6-shooter .38 Specials.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know of a single police department in the United States that uses H&amp;amp;K handguns. More or less because of the price. They do use H&amp;amp;K MP5s on SWAT teams. Although I see that phased out more and more in favor of the M4A1.&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently H&amp;amp;K USP compacts and H&amp;amp;K P2000s are currently used by US Border Patrols. &lt;br /&gt;
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LAPD is transitioning to Glock, Upland uses USP i believe, and USP is on the LASD approved carry list. [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] 04:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a few that issue them.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Maine State Police use the USP .45.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Slide==&lt;br /&gt;
Does the USP have a stamped or milled slide? I've heard it both ways. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]&lt;br /&gt;
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-It's CNC milled.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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