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		<title>GoldenEye 007 (2010)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Agge: added Guns with Unknown real counterpart section&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Image:GoldenEye_007_Cover_2010.jpg‎‎|thumb|right|400px|''GoldenEye 007 (2010)'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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This video game is the remake of the legendary [[GoldenEye 007]] and it stars [[Daniel Craig]] as [[James Bond]] instead of [[Pierce Brosnan]] who originally starred in the ''[[GoldenEye]]'' film. All of the weapons were shown with their proper names in the first trailers, but the final game uses fictional names, like most other James Bond games. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''The following weapons are used in the video game ''GoldenEye 007'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3]] can be found in many levels, sometimes with a silencer, an M68 Aimpoint sight, or an ACOG scope.  It's called the &amp;quot;Sigmus&amp;quot; in-game. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MP5A3_StockCollapsed.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ge2010_mp5_1.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 in the game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP7 ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP7]], referred to as the &amp;quot;Stauger UA-1&amp;quot;, appears in the Runway and Archives missions.  It can be found with an unknown red dot sight or an ACOG scope.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;K MP71A1.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP7A1 with factory magazine and iron sights - 4.6x30mm. This MP7 shown in Autopistol configuration.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AK-47 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Mirroring the film's events, the guards at the Arkhangelsk Dam carry [[AK-47]]s, which 007 can pick up from slain foes and use for himself.  Russian infantry in many other levels also carry the weapon, sometimes with a Kobra red dot sight attached.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TypeIII_AK47.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|AK-47]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GE2010_AK47.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AKS-74U ==&lt;br /&gt;
This weapon is only seen in the Nintendo DS screen-shots.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:01_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg‎‎|thumb|none|350px|]][[Image:02_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg‎‎|thumb|none|350px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== FN P90 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[FN P90]] appears in single- and multiplayer, called the &amp;quot;Vargen FH-7&amp;quot;.  Its magazine capacity has been reduced from the original game's 80 to a more realistic 50, but it still sports an incredible rate of fire.  It can sometimes be found with a red dot sight or a suppressor. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FNP90.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|FN P90]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GoldenEye-007-FN-P90-shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Oddjob-FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Oddjob -who only appears in the multiplayer- is holding an FN P90 while someone is aiming him with a sniper]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== FN SCAR-H ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[FN SCAR|FN SCAR-H]] is seen at various points throughout the game, most often by Janus thugs; in-game, it's called the &amp;quot;Kallos TT9&amp;quot;.  It can sometimes be found with an EOTech sight, an ACOG scope, or an [[FN EGLM]] grenade launcher.  Its magazine erroneously carries 30 rounds instead of the actual 20.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FN_SCAR_-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|FN SCAR-H]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ge2010_SCAR.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|FN SCAR-H in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ge2010_june_01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|A Snow-Guard in Severnaya holds an FN SCAR-H, equipped with suppressor, scope, and grenade launcher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:05_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg|thumb|none|350px|FN SCAR-H in Nintendo DS version of the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Franchi SPAS-12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] has returned once more previously featured in [[007: Nightfire|''NightFire'']] and [[007: Everything or Nothing|''Everything or Nothing'']] video games. It is called the Drumhead Type-12 in-game.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Franchi12.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Franchi SPAS-12 Short Barreled Version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SPAS_in_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Franchi SPAS 12 in the game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG-7==&lt;br /&gt;
The sole rocket launcher in the game is the [[RPG-7]], referred to as the MJR-409 in-game.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|none|thumb|350px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RPG GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== SVD Dragunov ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[SVD Dragunov]] only appears in the Dam mission in single player, equipped with a silencer and thermal sights. It first appeared in the debut trailer with its original name, but the final game calls it the &amp;quot;Pavlov ASR&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:SVD_Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|SVD Dragunov Sniper]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Dragunov_GE2010.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|SVD Dragunov in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta 93R ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Beretta 93R]] machine-pistol, called the &amp;quot;Kunara V&amp;quot; in-game, was first glimpsed in multiplayer mode in the debut trailer.  It shows up in the hands of enemies in the Bunker and Depot levels. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 93R 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M93R GE2010.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 93R in the game. Note the hammer is oddly built into the slide.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Colt Model 933 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[M16 rifle series#Colt Model 933|Colt Model 933]], called the &amp;quot;Terralite 3&amp;quot; in-game, is found in the Jungle mission, much like the AR-33 in the original.  It sometimes comes with an ACOG sight attached. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColtM4commando.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Model 933]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Colt_Model_933_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Model 933 in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C|G36C]], referred to as the &amp;quot;Anova DP3&amp;quot; in-game, is frequently carried by the masked elite guards that show up when enemies are alerted to Bond's presence.  It can be found with an EOTech sight, an ACOG sight, a laser aiming module, or an [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch AG36 Grenade Launcher|AG-36]] grenade launcher. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G36CwForegrip.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C 5.56x45mm with RIS foregrip]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GE2010_G36C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] appears in the hands of enemies in several missions, called the &amp;quot;Hawksman M5A&amp;quot; in-game.  Sometimes, it can be found with a laser sight.  Strangely, it's always modeled with the aiming module, but it's only functional on some guns &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:HK-USP.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:USP_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch equipped with laser in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:04_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg|thumb|none|350px|The weapon USP appears also in Nintendo DS version of the game, some other guys are thinking that it's a [[Walther P99|P99]], but actually it's a USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Walther WA 2000 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This [[Walther WA 2000]] sniper rifle can be found in the Surface and Bunker missions, usually with a silencer.  Ammo is very scarce, as no enemies carry it. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Walther-WA2000.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther WA 2000, .300 Winchester Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WA2000Game.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blackened version of Walther WA 2000 in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Walther P99 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Walther P99]] serves as James Bond's sidearm, instead of the classic &amp;quot;PP7&amp;quot; ([[Walther PPK]]) he used in the original ''[[GoldenEye 007]]''. It can be fitted with a removable silencer.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Walther P99]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GE2010_P99.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Walther P99 in the game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:P99-suppressing.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Bond suppresses his Walther P99 while sneaking behind an opponent]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GoldenEye-007-P99-knock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bond knocks an opponent with his Walther P99]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GE2010 - Bond and P99.jpg|thumb|none|400px|James Bond with his Walther P99]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== IMI Tavor TAR-21 == &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Tavor TAR-21 rifle series|TAR-21]] appears in the hands of Janus thugs in Statue Park and the Nigerian Solar plant, referred to in-game as the &amp;quot;Ivana Spec-R&amp;quot;.  It can be found with a suppressor, a laser sight, or an EOTech sight. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Tavor-tar.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Tavor TAR-21 with Kimber Mepro red dot sight 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Golden Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Scaramanga's famous [[Golden Gun]] has appeared in every video game in the same franchise except [[Tomorrow Never Dies (VG)|''Tomorrow Never Dies'']] and [[007: Quantum of Solace (VG)|''Quantum of Solace'']]. Mostly appeared in the multiplayers just like appears in this multiplayer.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Goldengun.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Francisco Scaramanga's Golden Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GoldenGun2010.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Golden Gun appears in the multiplayer while Jaws is holding his AK-47.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guns with Unknown real counterpart ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''SeGs 550'''. Generic shotgun. 8 shell magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Talon HL 450'''. Sniper rifle. 10 round magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Strata sv 400'''. rifle. 1/auto. 30 shell magazine. &lt;br /&gt;
* '''Wolfe .44'''. '''.44 magnum'''?&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Gambit CP-208'''. Sniper rifle. 5 round magazine. Silencer and terminal scope&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Masterton M-557'''. Auto shotgun. 1/auto. 30 shell magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Stuger UA1'''. rifle. 3/auto. 40 shell magazine. &lt;br /&gt;
* '''sly 2020'''. powerful shotgun.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:James Bond Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:First-Person Shooter]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Agge: question about desart eagles&lt;/p&gt;
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The litlle .22 looks like a jennings j-22 and the revolver looks like it may be a ruger redhawk, anyone got a close up of the hammer, that gives away rugers.&lt;br /&gt;
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The little pearl-handled semi-auto is a Baby Browning .25acp.  If no one else wants to fix that, I'll do it later this evening.  Got to head out shortly.  krispic 10:06 4/10/10&lt;br /&gt;
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They said in the movie that it was a .22 caliber. Spades of Columbia 4/10/10&lt;br /&gt;
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You believe what you hear in movies?  What they &amp;quot;say in the movies&amp;quot; very seldom bears any resemblance to real life.  The firearm used in that scene was a Baby Browning 6.35mm (.25acp).  If what you hear in movies is always true, I have *got* to get me one of those Sigourney Weaver pulse rifles!  lol  krispic 17:24 4/10/10  (sorry for being snide.  was meant as humor krispic)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That is definitely a Baby Browning, you can see a slide release behind the trigger in the picture, the BB has that as well as the somewhat boxy frame. However, what's pictured as the IMFDB gun is an FN 1905. Anyone have a free picture to reflect that? [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Is it really? I googled Baby Browning and got that image, so I thought it was accurate. I'll look for another lol. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
The one that's up now is a correct Baby Browning.  Maroon leather background.  Great pic, btw.  Nice find.  A 1905 has a grip safety and a non-full length slide/dust cover.  A lot of folks these days discount the old .25acp as being next to garbage, but for a lot of folks for a lot of years, those guns were seen as serious weapons.  krispic 09:07 4/11/10&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks Krispic, and after some hunting I discovered the weapon that is used in the movie was a Baby Browning Lightweight, chrome plated slide and aluminum frame, with a Bronze or Gold plated trigger. Here's a picture, but I'm not sure if it's free or not, but it's a good pic. Follow the link because I'm not uploading a free image. [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 15:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC) http://astorarms.ca/images/Prohibited%20Handguns/Browning%20Baby%20Lightweight,%20DSC_4293.jpg &lt;br /&gt;
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What is the extra thing on the end of the desert eagles? Silencer ,just barrel extantion ,special bulht movie extra part or somthing else?&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:Agge|Agge]] 23:28, 16 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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For those who haven't seen it yet, the movie's recently-released trailer (which is the source of our page's info) is here:&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2-PYxgL50&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like it'll follow completely in the vein of its predecessor - totally mindless and full of self-inflated importance, but impossible not to enjoy.  Only thing that bothers me is that Sean Patrick Flannery has really not aged too well - dude's got an obvious double-chin in the trailer.  That, and the fact that I would have preferred to see them using FN Five-Sevens instead of Desert Eagles. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just watched the trailer. Looks great!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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It does look awesome. Norman Reedus on the other hand doesn't look like he has aged more than a year or too. I hope it will be better than the first, but it won't be the same with out Willem Dafoe -[[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm a BIG fan of the original movie (plus I'm a Roman Catholic, have Irish heritage, and was born a fraternal twin, but my twin died during childbirth). We don't only get Sean, Norman, and Billy back, but we get Clifton Collins Jr. as thier dumbass sidekick and Julie Benz as the FBI agent (who looks like an attractive female version of Willem Dafoe). Personally, I think the brothers should use M1911A1 pistols with engraved finishes and white grips that have the Celtic Cross on it. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=I agree. Having them upgrade from Beretta's to M1911's is like chucking a .25 Saturday Night Special for a Les Baer custom-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]] 03:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Don't underestimate what a 9mm can do. Especially the beretta 92FS. That gun is a refined killer as is the M1911 series. A man's just as dead with a 9mm slug in his brain as three .45 slugs in his chest. I think they should use .455 WEBLEYS! Those guns are fuckin' BEAUTIFUL! Engrave THEM grips! And desert eagles? please. what are they trying to prove? Don't get me wrong. I got irish heritage too and am AMPED to see this movie...but seriously...desert eagles? But yes. engraved finish M1911A1s would kick an intense amount of ass. Especially if they were mag-na-ported like in Face/off.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I would rather shoot someone once in the chest with a .45 than the 3-5 rounds of 9x19mm it would take. Webleys would be ridiculous though, as I have never even seen any .455 ammo for sale except for ONCE, and it was $80 for 20 rounds-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]] 20:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The local Cabelas sells 455 Webley in boxes of twenty cartridges made by Hornady for about $40.00. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::C'mon man. don't be that way. The .45 would stop a man in his tracks in under three shots though. Everybodys got a gun thats THEIR GUN. Be it a Beretta 92fs or an m1911. The brothers seems pretty effective with them. why should they change? Some men can dot an eye with either gun. proficiency can be much more of a decider in combat than stopping power. A professional with a beretta is much more dangerous than an untrained person with a M1911, and vice versa. I have known those that swear by either gun. It just annoys me that it has become a ritual to scorn the 9X19mm round due to it's supposed lack of lethality. And I doubt you have been shot with either round. If you have I apologize. I suggested Webleys because they are very nice looking guns in my opinion. Note how I said LOOKING. Besides they are using desert eagles with compensators so money seems to be no object to them on their quest for justice, besides they could just reload their empties like everyone else with a webley.&lt;br /&gt;
::Please my friend, sign your posts by pressing the sign button on the edit menu.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Let me put it this way: I know people who have had to shoot people with 9mm's in self defense. They all told me it took around 3 rounds to make the attacker stop. Also, a Beretta Cougar makes way more sense to me than a 92 due to the fact that the Cougar actually feels like a gun, unlike the Beretta 92 which feels like a toy-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]] 18:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Who gives a flying fuck if a gun feels like a toy? I actually would like a gun that felt like a toy. That way it wouldn't be heavy. Also, three bullets isn't much. I still prefer .45 ACP, though.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::yeah sorry folks. guess i sorta overreacted 'bout that one. I have found in my experience using a Beretta 92G vertec and a caspian arms M1911 that guns in either caliber can be fine guns. I would be fine using either of the guns I just mentioned in a firefight, or both preferebly. I don't mean like john wooing the guns, I mean like having a spare rod. hell, i'd use a browning HP, or a tokarev, or S&amp;amp;W Model 10, or a 1911, or a H&amp;amp;k U.S.P. .45, or even (god forbid) a glock. A gun's a gun and a kill's a kill. whatever you can kill with, use it. Jeff Cooper swore by his 1911s, just as my father swears by his 586. I knew a man who was mocked for carrying a Star model B when was in the armed forces, but easily shot a man dead in self-defense. .45 = stopping power. 9mm =low recoil. just because a man uses a beretta doesnt mean he likes to spray and pray, maybe he just doesn't like to take the chance he'll be out when he doesnt want to be, just like a man who carries an m1911 isnt necesarily a guy who just wants what's biggest, maybe he just knows what it can do. a man likes what he likes. And I like sammiches and berettas. And webleys. besides they could just use webleys modified to take .45 acp that they can download to usable pressures. Yes folks. I just went back to square one there....still. webley = sexy. well...im sure this argument will go on for eternity....soo continue. And thanks for tellin me about the signature thing. --[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 19:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There are Webley's in the movie, but they aren't used that much-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]] 05:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you think a Beretta feels like a toy, you are either enormously obese or you have never shot/held one.--[[User:ColonelTomb|ColonelTomb]] 23:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have held quite few  and I am not obese (I'm a big guy, but not enormous), but I do have massive hands, which explains why I think it feels like a toy and why I prefer heavier weapons. For example, I do not think a Ruger Redhawk w/ a scope is that heavy while everyone else I know who have shot it bitch about how heavy it is-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]] 01:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey S&amp;amp;Wshooter, didn't mean to come off as an asshole on that last comment. I had a bad day and was kind of angry.--[[User:ColonelTomb|ColonelTomb]] 00:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To be fair both the 9mm and 45 ACP are probably the best rounds when using a suppressor. The .45 is naturally a subsonic round while the 147 grain 9mm round lends itself well to use in a suppressed firearm. As for anecdotal evidence on number of rounds there are a good number of stories where a 9mm was as effective as a .45 and there are stories where it took more than one round of .45 to stop an attacker. I happen to like the Beretta 92FS as a firearm and I have never had it jam except after a 1000 round torture test and had a 1911 do the same. Either way with a suppressed Beretta or 1911 the McManus brothers would have had a reliable pistol with which a suppressor would work admirably and would be quite effective. [[Special:Contributions/98.175.58.228|98.175.58.228]] 04:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There are two things I would like to point out. First of all, Beretta 92s and their variants are known for being heavier guns, since all of them up until 2003 were completely metal, as opposed to the polymer that is now commonly used in many parts of other guns. Even after '03, they were still most metal, and therefore are still quite heavy, compared to most other commercial guns. The second point I wanted to make is mainly directed at the power of the 9x19mm round, versus the power of the .45 ACP round. Sure, the .45 has plenty of stopping power, but the 9mm isn't a weak round. It may take 3-5 rounds to the chest occasionally, but more important then the stopping power of a bullet is where it hits. The .45 has been recorded to take as many as five hits to the chest to kill, while there are multiple incidents of the nine-mil killing in one shot straight through the heart. Sure, stopping power is important, but becomes fairly irrelevant if you're not trying to keep the target alive, and if you actually know how to aim. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 06:56, 13 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I recently ==&lt;br /&gt;
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watched the trailer and there's a scene where Billy Connely and a thug face off and the thug is holding a revolver (Ruger Blackhawk maybe?)-[[User:Shooter|Shooter]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think they were webley's&lt;br /&gt;
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Just saw the movie, and those are definitely Webleys. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 08:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is the Glock 30 or I guess possibly the 26/27 not on the gun page?  II Duke has one on his left hand shoulder when he has his six guns strapped to him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not to mention the Para Nite Tac (according to movie armorer), S&amp;amp;W 686 &amp;amp; 629.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== LDA? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I honestly don't think Romeo is using LDAs as evident by the full triggers.  They still may be Para-Ordnance, and I really like the Italian flag grips though. -[[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]]&lt;br /&gt;
::''Italian'' flag...? [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 10:33, 16 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:One of the armorers who worked on the movie told me that they were LDAs.  I wouldn't have written it otherwise. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:45, 29 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wasn't he flag on the grips the Mexican flag, not the Italian one?-[[User:S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter|S&amp;amp;amp;Wshooter]] 19:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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1.  Not trying to be a prick here, but armorers can be wrong all the time.  Look at Hitman, or in the 1st Boondock Saints movie where the 92FS's transforms to PT92's.  Either way I am by no means an expert, if he's a professional movie armorer than who am I to contradict him.&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''''&amp;quot;but armorers can be wrong all the time&amp;quot;'''''? hahahaha.  Yes, they can be wrong ALL the time, but if they were, they wouldn't get much work now, would they? LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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2.  I liked the grips eitherway.  -[[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Just as a quick note to anyone looking, these dont look like LDAs, they have the standard 1911 style SA skeleton trigger, I'm not sure if that trigger can be used in a double action pistol. Therefore My vote is that these are Para p-18s, especially since it's the same trigger used on the P-18s -Deadlysyn&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BDS2-9.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Romeo ([[Clifton Collins, Jr.]]) racks the slide of his custom 45 - note that the words &amp;quot;El Jefe&amp;quot; are engraved in the slide - .45 acp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah they have SA triggers. Maybe they were converted to SA? Is that possible? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:53, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe the armorer meant Agent Bloom's weapon was the LDA. Just watched special features and that's what I heard him say. - JanG&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.para-usa.com/new/images/product_large/PCX745Sphoto_big.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
Closest Para I could find, based on serration angle and spacing, and the sights. Only problem, the LTC is a commander length and the ones Romeo uses look like government length. Another possibility is the PXT or the gun rights special edition. Kinda cool to use a gun rights pistol in a movie where fire fights are the appeal. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 08:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Did the armorer (whichever one is interviewed for the special features) mention if Romeo's guns were P14s or LDAs?  Al Vrkljan, who was ''one'' of the armorers who worked on the movie, specifically told me LDA, but he may have mis-remembered.  I'm guessing that Charles Taylor (the other of the two armorers, and Al's boss) is the guy they interviewed for the special features, and he might have said something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Taylor, Romeo's pistols are custom made for the character. They kinda looked like Para PXTs to me, but without the front serrations like the special series. Also, when the armorer showed Agent Bloom's handgun 6.45 can be seen clearly on the side. Here's one that looks like it...&lt;br /&gt;
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:Do they ever mention on the DVD special features the guns that Noah Macmanus uses in the finale? I can't tell what model that subcompact Para is (could be a P-10 but I'm not sure; confirmation would help.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would whoever is identifying Romeo's pistols please make note: '''The pistols in the movie CLEARLY do not have flared grip frames meaning they CANNOT be double stack pistols.'''  The guns are neither double action or high capacity.[[User:Captain America]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe its this gun: http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=62 -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Noah's compact 1911 is a Para Nite Tac. As for Romeo's pistols, I had mentioned they looked like PXT Special series but with different fron sights. Maybe they're made up of several different parts put together. In any case, I agree with Captain... single stack, single action 1911s. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 17:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you can see, the Para Nite Tac is a full sized pistol so that can't be the Para that Noah uses. Do you mean a Nite ''Hawg''?-[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FN FAL ==&lt;br /&gt;
I just saw the movie myself and am pretty sure those were not FN Fals in the armourer's cage but some type of assault shotgun with a side folding stock. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 13:31, 13 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crew Cut ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The hitman adversary is listed as using H&amp;amp;K USPs, but according to the armorer in special features, he uses Sig P226s. Also in the bar shootout where he takes the bartender hostage, you can clearly see that is is a Sig.  -  Jan&lt;br /&gt;
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:Did the armorer say whether Crew Cut used the P226R in the church scene, or only the bar shootout, or both?  He definitely uses the P226R in the bar, but I wasn't able to tell what the suppressed pistols were.  I'm getting the Blu Ray of this movie pretty soon (I ordered it from Amazon), so hopefully I'll be able to tell once I get it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They looked like 226s in the church scene, especially when crew cut laid down next to the priest.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Watched special features again and according to the movie armorer (Charles Taylor) crew cut uses 2 sig 226s.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Comparing the side view of both the Colt and the gun in the movie, it doesn't look quite like a 1908. Look for closely at the trigger [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps you are right. Any thoughts on what it might be, though? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Jennings J-22? it looks like one, and was specifically referred to as a .22.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just because it was referred to as a .22 doesn't mean they actually used a .22.  The script, for example, said the Desert Eagles were supposed to be .50 AE models, but the prop weapons used in the movie were chambered in .357 Magnum. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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