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User:52TulaSKS

2014-06-22T22:49:34Z

52TulaSKS:

I am a gun owner from Canada. I am mainly interested in Soviet/Eastern Bloc firearms (hence the username), however I have an interest in pretty much all military firearms from WWI to the present day (although my friend has really gotten me interested in some pre-WWI guns such as the Gewehr 1888). My favourite gun is my M1 Garand.

User:52TulaSKS

2013-10-05T04:13:10Z

52TulaSKS:

File:Vz 58 Bolt Carrier Jammed.jpg

2013-10-05T03:58:05Z

52TulaSKS:

Screenshot from Strike Back, S4E8, at 20:29 in.

Talk:Strike Back - Season 4

2013-10-05T03:56:56Z

52TulaSKS: /* CSA Vz 58 in episode 8 */

== Uknown Rifle ==

OK , I admit I'm clueless what Stonebridge uses, at first it seemed like a modified Vikhr or a 9A91, but its clearly not, so did they chop something up? --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:43, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
:I'm watching it right now, assuming this is the gun you are talking about it's one of those modern CSA Sa. Vz. 58 Compacts:[[File:SA vz.58 Compact 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]][[ File:SB S04E01 SA VZ58 Compact.jpg |thumb|600px|none|]] I'll add screens for the rest of the guns that turn up later assuming nobady else does it before me. EDIT: just noticed this is a 5.56 gun which is also fitted with an [http://www.csa.co.cz/en/16-aktuality/2-sa-vz-58-adapter.html M16 magazine well adapter]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:11, 10 August 2013 (EDT)

Yup, definitely a shorty Vz 58. Took me awhile to notice the magwell adapter, but definitely you knew it wasn't a 7.62x39 gun with the shape of the mag. [[User:52TulaSKS|52TulaSKS]] ([[User talk:52TulaSKS|talk]]) 02:56, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Noticed the STANAG M4 mag straight away , since I was thinking weird choice , but at least they can share mags. I mean it really is a weird choice, it even has the old lastochkin hvost scope mount thats what made me think it was russian. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:39, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:Did you notice the part in the episode where the scope mount falls off and hits him in the face? I agree it is a weird choice, particularly for a British team operating in Columbia, but I have long since suspended my disbelief about nonsensical guns when watching films and TV filmed in SA. I think it is pretty cool looking though with those accessories, I can see why they chose to use it. Kind of weird though that is is a Czech gun, and the only things it has appeared in are filmed in Canada and South Africa. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:30, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Yeah that was weird, could be because the scope is a bit too heavy ( ussually they have like a eotech's or cobra's on those mounts) or due too recoil (they probably fire the gun all day, doubtful they do it in one take and the firing scenes are probably back to back) But the show is sort of guilty pleasure for me, you know unrealistic and all but great fun, could have less nudity on Scott's part though its anoying since it does nothing to the story and its like 2 minutes each ep. But gun porn is always fun, I guess the gun makes sense, its short and all if they could not get their hands on anything else, but its weird that Scott and the new chick have M4 types, they also filmed some stuff in soviet block countries after 4th episode. What I don't like about the new season is the chick fest OK Richmond is mostly support and Dalton used to be a honey-pott so she sort of works as a middle level spook, but how many women are believable as badass in a small unit as this, and there is the Israeli agent and there was Grant. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:26, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

:My guess about the scope mount is that the release lever got caught on something, as after that point it has tape over it. I haven't seen much about future episodes, just the season trailer and a few promo images, but it looks like they are making rhe vz. 58 Compact their go-to gun. TBH I don't really have too much of a problem with it, its not like they are regular forces (or even part of UKSF), and I have seen SAS/SBS using all kinds of AK variants when trying to look local in Iraq/Afghanistan. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:39, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

One of the guys in the boat with Scott and Stonebridge has an AR-15 carbine that looks to resemble a Colt Model 723, but it's hard to make out the details of the receiver. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 12:17, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:When I watched it I thought it was one of their M4 type rifles same as Martinez and Scott so didn't pay much attention, but now that you have pointed it out it looks more like a fixed carry handle gun. Will give it a proper look when I get home and try and get a proper ID. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:22, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Seeems like an unchoped variant of Scott's M4, which is what an A1?, seems too long for a 723 --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 14:48, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure as it is never really seen, but I think it is a different gun. I can't really tell if it has a flat top but it seems to have an A1 rear sight, which unless it is a Diemaco I think means it is a fixed carry handle gun. Also, I don't think Scott's gun is chopped, I think it is more likely the suppressor is a fake slip over one. Also, the M4, M4a1 and 723 are all the same length, which to me looks the same as this gun. I can make out a brass deflector so would guess it is an A1E1 upper like on the 723. The barrel profile of this looks like an M4 though which doesn't match the 723 (have heard late 723 had an M4 barrel but I've never seen one), but I wouldn't worry too much about the barrel profile, as I think Hire Arms might mode their guns to give their barrels an M4 profile even when they're not. For example, look at [http://www.hirearms.com/change/uploads/images/edit/203%20copy.jpg this] image and compare the width of the barrel inside the front sight and ahead of it. On a [http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Charles%20Daly%20Carbines/IMG_3574%201028%20WEVO.jpg real M4] they should be the same but this barrel is noticeably larger ahead of the FSB. My guess is that they fit metal sleeves over thin A1 profile barrels to give them this appearance. Regardless, I think most of the AR-15s used on the show are cobbled together mockups, so I don't think a definite ID can be determined. I'll probably call it a 723 just to call it something and make a note of the fact it has had something done to the barrel. Hopefully the same gun will turn up in a later episode where we can get a shot of it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:10, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

What i don't get it is why is Stonebridge using a berretta? I doubt that was the only thing they had. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 03:19, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
:Only thing I could think of was, since they got picked up in California by the Army maybe they acquired some gear from them? "[[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 18:50, 27 August 2013 (EDT)"

== Smoke Grenades ==

These are real smoke grenades that are used by the SA police, but I can't find a name for them. The best I can find is [http://www.sapstf.org/Equipment.aspx this] website about the South African Police Special Task Force which has a very small [http://www.sapstf.org/Pic/equipment/grenade%20smoke.jpg image] of it, but refers to it only as a smoke grenade. The spoon covers the writing on the body so that all I can make out is that it is an M8 something. If you zoom in on the spoon it looks like it says M8534A1, but I get no results searching for this. Does anybody know what these are? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
:This webpage has some pictures of similar grenades: http://www.lexpev.nl/grenades/middleeastasia/southafrica/index.html It looks like the grenades used in the scene have a tapered body (like [http://www.lexpev.nl/images/sudafricaswartkliprp_200.jpg this]), rather than the typical cylindrical M83. I don't know if they have a particular designation. [[User:APS221|APS221]] ([[User talk:APS221|talk]]) 06:13, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
::They are similar, clearly following the same pattern, but it is a different grenade. Firstly that is a red phosphorous grenade rather than a smoke one, and secondly the design is slightly different with the mystery smoke one having ports in the tapered top section of the grenade. I think the smoke one has a specific designation, as you can read that it starts as M8 something, it is just not possible to read what it is from the only photo I can find. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:16, 21 August 2013 (EDT)

== Stonebridge's handgun during the robbery ==

During the start of the stock exchange robbery, when Stonebridge is handling the security guard that stumbles on them in the safety deposit box vault, he appears to be carrying a Glock and not the Beretta from S04E01. I can't get a screenshot but there are a few clear frames when he is on top of the guard right before he knocks him out and the grip of the handgun in the small of his back is clearly a Glock, possibly a Gen 2.
:Got it, nice spot. It is a bit of a continuity error (not counting the fact that he has changed pistol) as it is present when they are in the bank up until the point when they leave the door, and then it seems to disappear for the firefight outside. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:19, 20 August 2013 (EDT)

Perhaps he puts it in the bag when he puts his vest on or somewhere in a vest pocket and they did return to their mobile base perhaps he picked it up there. Or the simplest explanation the armorer realised theres no reason he would have a berretta or the glock became available again. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 21 August 2013 (EDT)

:I just rewatched it, and he has it in the small of his back after he puts his vest on and they are preparing to leave, but in the next shot with them walking through the lobby it is gone. It stays absent for the firefight, before reappearing when they commandeer the car and is still there at the safe house. My guess is that it disappears for this scene due to it being a liability considering the stunts he was doing in that shootout (getting thrown back onto the table when shot, crawling across the floor on his back while covering Scott, stuff like that). Also, in one shot it looks like he is wearing a pad or protector under his shirt on his lower back in this scene *for the getting shot stunt) which would interfere with the gun. I saw a behind the scenes thing about this shootout and the way they tend to film these scenes is to choreograph it with multiple cameras and do long takes that cover the whole of the action, so if the gun needed to be missing for one stunt it would be missing for most of the scene. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:04, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
:Here are some pics:[[File:Strike Back S04E02 Glock 1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Once they exist the bank the Glock is gone.]][[File:Strike Back S04E02 Glock 2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Also he clearly wearing some kind of pad or spine protector.]][[File:Strike Back S04E02 Glock3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|When commandering the car the spine protector is gone and the Glock is back.]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)

The actor said in one of the behind the scenes video's that they now wear lots of padding --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:41, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

As of S04E03 Stonebridge is carrying a full size Glock, likely a 17, while Scott continues to carry the same Beretta. Again I am unable to get a screenshot but there are many scenes in S04E03 where Michael is carrying a Glock.

== Scott and Stonebridge's Gear ==

May be slightly off topic, but for anyone interested, the men get quite a bit of their gear from Condor: http://www.condoroutdoor.com/index.aspx. This includes their leg holsters and belts and I believe their vests and slings too, although I've yet to figure out the exact models. They also rely on Oakley gloves, Casio G-Shock and Protrek watches, Ray Ban sunglasses and CRKT folding knives. Hope this helps anyone who's been searching for a similar loadout. --[[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]] ([[User talk:Mmarlon brando|talk]]) 20:41, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

I think this is a good topic for the discussion session because there has been times when I've been curious what they were using, just because. I always try to identify what holsters they carry in the small of their backs but can't get a clear look, and I have way too much free time on my hands... - John

The clearest shot of that IWB holster is in S2E3 when Markunda removes Scott's Glock from it. There's some sort of logo or inscription on the metal clip, but I've never been able to make out what it says. They do look to be using the same ones this season, so here's hoping we get a nice close-up. --[[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]] ([[User talk:Mmarlon brando|talk]]) 23:42, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

:After a few minutes of sliding sliders, resizing, cropping and rotating a screencap of that scene, it looks to say "El Paso", and Google leads me to El Paso Leather (And El Paso Saddlery, but that is the wrong company, though they make nice looking holsters) which has the right logo. Unfortunately, they don't have an online catalog to find the specific model of holster.--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] ([[User talk:Crazycrankle|talk]]) 01:16, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

:I did a few minutes on Google and found that El Paso Leather is now Nevada Gun Leather. Try www.nevadagunleather.com and see if the holster is there. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 02:43, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

:Nevada Gun Leather does have an IWB holster that looks to fit the bill. Checking around, it turns out that the holsters themselves are manufactured in South Africa, the frequent home base for filming the show. Link [http://nevadagunleather.com/IWB-Inside-waist-band-143.htm here]. Appreciate the help. --[[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]] ([[User talk:Mmarlon brando|talk]]) 08:27, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

:This is why I love this site! "[[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 12:46, 27 August 2013 (EDT)"

::Looks like Lt. Col Locke was carrying his Sig in a Blackhawk CQC paddle holster during episode 5. Nice to see his character finally "get some dust on his boots."--[[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]] ([[User talk:Mmarlon brando|talk]]) 03:50, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Speaking of the gear, does anybody know if the [[Media:Strike_Back_S04E03_033.jpg|necklace radio pressels]] they have our a real thing or if they are totally made up? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:07, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

:Induction loop earpieces are a real thing but I'm not sure what type Section 20 uses. Last episode, S04E03 gave the best look so far and the closest thing I've found to them have been a bluetooth system (http://img.hisupplier.com/var/userImages/2013-01/21/134426046_Bluetooth_inductive_neckloop_with_mini_wireless_306_earpiece_kit_s.jpg) "[[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 12:51, 27 August 2013 (EDT)"
::I don't think they are induction loops, as they just hang on a chain like dogtags (there were a couple of good shots of them in episode 4). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:24, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Yeah, the first real good shots where when Dalton pulled them out of the glove box. I'd be interested in knowing what the hell it is. [[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 22:15, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
::::Here are a couple of caps of them:[[File:Strike Back S04E04 300.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]][[File:Strike Back S04E04 329.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:46, 8 September 2013 (EDT)

== MP5s in S03E05 ==

I will upload caps for this tomorrow, but just wanted to say my god there were a lot of MP5 variants in that episode. So far I have spotted MP5A2s, MP5A3s, an MP5SD2, an MP5K PDW with a UMP stock, a regular MP5K and a couple of "Reverse Stretch" MP5Ks. I can't quite work out what some of the MP5s were at the airport at the end were though. They looked to be MP5A3s with Navy trigger packs and "F" stocks, however the magazine has me confused. It is straight, but it doesn't match anything I have seen before as it doesn't have the waffle texture of the old style mags (and is too long for a 20 round and too short for a 30), but is too short to be a regular .40 or 10mm mag:
[[File:Strike Back S04E05 314.jpg|thumb|600px|none]]
Any ideas?--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:42, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

== P226 ==

Looks like every member of 20 is carrying a Sig P226 in Episode 5. [[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 00:16, 17 September 2013 (EDT)
:Actually the girls were carrying P225s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:23, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Speaking of that. In episode 6 when they were pinned by Skander, Mike actually cleared a jam on his gun and it went back into battery [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:49, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I'm not sure if it does go back into battery fully, I went through frame by frame and couldn't tell as it is too blurry. Later though it jams when he draws his SIG to try and stop the guy reaching for the mortar timer so he racks the slide but this time it definitely jams again, so they just CG in the muzzle flashes. Due to the way this is shot (long continuous takes with multiple cameras) you quite often see them clearing jams, but the P226s they use in this show seem to be a bit of a liability. I seem to remember that the BXP that Rebecca Levi used during the bank robbery kept jamming as well. I imagine that jams are not necessarily more common in this show, but you see them a lot more due to the actors just dealing with them and carrying on rather than them having to do separate takes and editing around it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:24, 24 September 2013 (EDT)

== Unknown weapon is S04E05 ==

This is the best shot I could get of this thing:[[File:Strike Back S04E05 198.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]I think it might be a grenade launcher or possibly a compact shotgun but really have no clue. Any ideas? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:30, 17 September 2013 (EDT)
:I think this is the same gun in S04E06, being held by the officer to the right of the door at the top of the stairs:[[File:Strike Back S04E06 270.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]I ''think'' its a shotgun, but not even sure about that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:35, 23 September 2013 (EDT)

== unknown Handgun S02 ==

Is the unknown pistol in S02E08 the FEG R78?
[[File:Strikebackpd-pistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The pistol in Season 2]]
[[File:FEG R78.jpg|thumb|300px|none|FEG R78 - .32 ACP]]
[[File:Strike Back S04E05 211.jpg|thumb|600px|none|R78 in season 4]]
--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 13:28, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yes, it is. You can tell by the design of the takedown lever at the front of the trigger guard, will get a pic of the left side of the FEG to show it.
::Here is a pic of the left side, you can see that the lever matches:[[File:FEG R78 left.jpg|thumb|300px|none|FEG R78 - .32 ACP]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:20, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

== AK in episode 7 ==

Anybody know what this AK is? I think this was filmed in Hungary, but I don't recognize the muzzle brake:
[[File:Strike Back S04E07 030.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:Strike Back S04E07 031.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
I would guess they are milled as they have the wide front sight and the original gas block, but they aren't really seen properly. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:33, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== CSA Vz 58 in episode 8 ==

[[File:Vz 58 Bolt Carrier Jammed.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

Just something I noticed in Episode 8. This happened at about 20:29 in. Sgt. Richmond had stopped firing her weapon at this point. In the previous scene the bolt carrier was in battery, as well as after this scene, yet here it is jammed partially open. I guess this is just a technical goof? [[User:52TulaSKS|52TulaSKS]] ([[User talk:52TulaSKS|talk]]) 23:53, 4 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Strike Back - Season 4

2013-10-05T03:53:45Z

52TulaSKS: /* CSA Vz 58 in episode 8 */ new section

== Uknown Rifle ==

OK , I admit I'm clueless what Stonebridge uses, at first it seemed like a modified Vikhr or a 9A91, but its clearly not, so did they chop something up? --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:43, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
:I'm watching it right now, assuming this is the gun you are talking about it's one of those modern CSA Sa. Vz. 58 Compacts:[[File:SA vz.58 Compact 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]][[ File:SB S04E01 SA VZ58 Compact.jpg |thumb|600px|none|]] I'll add screens for the rest of the guns that turn up later assuming nobady else does it before me. EDIT: just noticed this is a 5.56 gun which is also fitted with an [http://www.csa.co.cz/en/16-aktuality/2-sa-vz-58-adapter.html M16 magazine well adapter]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:11, 10 August 2013 (EDT)

Yup, definitely a shorty Vz 58. Took me awhile to notice the magwell adapter, but definitely you knew it wasn't a 7.62x39 gun with the shape of the mag. [[User:52TulaSKS|52TulaSKS]] ([[User talk:52TulaSKS|talk]]) 02:56, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Noticed the STANAG M4 mag straight away , since I was thinking weird choice , but at least they can share mags. I mean it really is a weird choice, it even has the old lastochkin hvost scope mount thats what made me think it was russian. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:39, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:Did you notice the part in the episode where the scope mount falls off and hits him in the face? I agree it is a weird choice, particularly for a British team operating in Columbia, but I have long since suspended my disbelief about nonsensical guns when watching films and TV filmed in SA. I think it is pretty cool looking though with those accessories, I can see why they chose to use it. Kind of weird though that is is a Czech gun, and the only things it has appeared in are filmed in Canada and South Africa. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:30, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Yeah that was weird, could be because the scope is a bit too heavy ( ussually they have like a eotech's or cobra's on those mounts) or due too recoil (they probably fire the gun all day, doubtful they do it in one take and the firing scenes are probably back to back) But the show is sort of guilty pleasure for me, you know unrealistic and all but great fun, could have less nudity on Scott's part though its anoying since it does nothing to the story and its like 2 minutes each ep. But gun porn is always fun, I guess the gun makes sense, its short and all if they could not get their hands on anything else, but its weird that Scott and the new chick have M4 types, they also filmed some stuff in soviet block countries after 4th episode. What I don't like about the new season is the chick fest OK Richmond is mostly support and Dalton used to be a honey-pott so she sort of works as a middle level spook, but how many women are believable as badass in a small unit as this, and there is the Israeli agent and there was Grant. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:26, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

:My guess about the scope mount is that the release lever got caught on something, as after that point it has tape over it. I haven't seen much about future episodes, just the season trailer and a few promo images, but it looks like they are making rhe vz. 58 Compact their go-to gun. TBH I don't really have too much of a problem with it, its not like they are regular forces (or even part of UKSF), and I have seen SAS/SBS using all kinds of AK variants when trying to look local in Iraq/Afghanistan. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:39, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

One of the guys in the boat with Scott and Stonebridge has an AR-15 carbine that looks to resemble a Colt Model 723, but it's hard to make out the details of the receiver. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 12:17, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:When I watched it I thought it was one of their M4 type rifles same as Martinez and Scott so didn't pay much attention, but now that you have pointed it out it looks more like a fixed carry handle gun. Will give it a proper look when I get home and try and get a proper ID. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:22, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Seeems like an unchoped variant of Scott's M4, which is what an A1?, seems too long for a 723 --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 14:48, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure as it is never really seen, but I think it is a different gun. I can't really tell if it has a flat top but it seems to have an A1 rear sight, which unless it is a Diemaco I think means it is a fixed carry handle gun. Also, I don't think Scott's gun is chopped, I think it is more likely the suppressor is a fake slip over one. Also, the M4, M4a1 and 723 are all the same length, which to me looks the same as this gun. I can make out a brass deflector so would guess it is an A1E1 upper like on the 723. The barrel profile of this looks like an M4 though which doesn't match the 723 (have heard late 723 had an M4 barrel but I've never seen one), but I wouldn't worry too much about the barrel profile, as I think Hire Arms might mode their guns to give their barrels an M4 profile even when they're not. For example, look at [http://www.hirearms.com/change/uploads/images/edit/203%20copy.jpg this] image and compare the width of the barrel inside the front sight and ahead of it. On a [http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Charles%20Daly%20Carbines/IMG_3574%201028%20WEVO.jpg real M4] they should be the same but this barrel is noticeably larger ahead of the FSB. My guess is that they fit metal sleeves over thin A1 profile barrels to give them this appearance. Regardless, I think most of the AR-15s used on the show are cobbled together mockups, so I don't think a definite ID can be determined. I'll probably call it a 723 just to call it something and make a note of the fact it has had something done to the barrel. Hopefully the same gun will turn up in a later episode where we can get a shot of it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:10, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

What i don't get it is why is Stonebridge using a berretta? I doubt that was the only thing they had. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 03:19, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
:Only thing I could think of was, since they got picked up in California by the Army maybe they acquired some gear from them? "[[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 18:50, 27 August 2013 (EDT)"

== Smoke Grenades ==

These are real smoke grenades that are used by the SA police, but I can't find a name for them. The best I can find is [http://www.sapstf.org/Equipment.aspx this] website about the South African Police Special Task Force which has a very small [http://www.sapstf.org/Pic/equipment/grenade%20smoke.jpg image] of it, but refers to it only as a smoke grenade. The spoon covers the writing on the body so that all I can make out is that it is an M8 something. If you zoom in on the spoon it looks like it says M8534A1, but I get no results searching for this. Does anybody know what these are? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
:This webpage has some pictures of similar grenades: http://www.lexpev.nl/grenades/middleeastasia/southafrica/index.html It looks like the grenades used in the scene have a tapered body (like [http://www.lexpev.nl/images/sudafricaswartkliprp_200.jpg this]), rather than the typical cylindrical M83. I don't know if they have a particular designation. [[User:APS221|APS221]] ([[User talk:APS221|talk]]) 06:13, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
::They are similar, clearly following the same pattern, but it is a different grenade. Firstly that is a red phosphorous grenade rather than a smoke one, and secondly the design is slightly different with the mystery smoke one having ports in the tapered top section of the grenade. I think the smoke one has a specific designation, as you can read that it starts as M8 something, it is just not possible to read what it is from the only photo I can find. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:16, 21 August 2013 (EDT)

== Stonebridge's handgun during the robbery ==

During the start of the stock exchange robbery, when Stonebridge is handling the security guard that stumbles on them in the safety deposit box vault, he appears to be carrying a Glock and not the Beretta from S04E01. I can't get a screenshot but there are a few clear frames when he is on top of the guard right before he knocks him out and the grip of the handgun in the small of his back is clearly a Glock, possibly a Gen 2.
:Got it, nice spot. It is a bit of a continuity error (not counting the fact that he has changed pistol) as it is present when they are in the bank up until the point when they leave the door, and then it seems to disappear for the firefight outside. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:19, 20 August 2013 (EDT)

Perhaps he puts it in the bag when he puts his vest on or somewhere in a vest pocket and they did return to their mobile base perhaps he picked it up there. Or the simplest explanation the armorer realised theres no reason he would have a berretta or the glock became available again. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:23, 21 August 2013 (EDT)

:I just rewatched it, and he has it in the small of his back after he puts his vest on and they are preparing to leave, but in the next shot with them walking through the lobby it is gone. It stays absent for the firefight, before reappearing when they commandeer the car and is still there at the safe house. My guess is that it disappears for this scene due to it being a liability considering the stunts he was doing in that shootout (getting thrown back onto the table when shot, crawling across the floor on his back while covering Scott, stuff like that). Also, in one shot it looks like he is wearing a pad or protector under his shirt on his lower back in this scene *for the getting shot stunt) which would interfere with the gun. I saw a behind the scenes thing about this shootout and the way they tend to film these scenes is to choreograph it with multiple cameras and do long takes that cover the whole of the action, so if the gun needed to be missing for one stunt it would be missing for most of the scene. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:04, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
:Here are some pics:[[File:Strike Back S04E02 Glock 1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Once they exist the bank the Glock is gone.]][[File:Strike Back S04E02 Glock 2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Also he clearly wearing some kind of pad or spine protector.]][[File:Strike Back S04E02 Glock3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|When commandering the car the spine protector is gone and the Glock is back.]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)

The actor said in one of the behind the scenes video's that they now wear lots of padding --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:41, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

As of S04E03 Stonebridge is carrying a full size Glock, likely a 17, while Scott continues to carry the same Beretta. Again I am unable to get a screenshot but there are many scenes in S04E03 where Michael is carrying a Glock.

== Scott and Stonebridge's Gear ==

May be slightly off topic, but for anyone interested, the men get quite a bit of their gear from Condor: http://www.condoroutdoor.com/index.aspx. This includes their leg holsters and belts and I believe their vests and slings too, although I've yet to figure out the exact models. They also rely on Oakley gloves, Casio G-Shock and Protrek watches, Ray Ban sunglasses and CRKT folding knives. Hope this helps anyone who's been searching for a similar loadout. --[[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]] ([[User talk:Mmarlon brando|talk]]) 20:41, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

I think this is a good topic for the discussion session because there has been times when I've been curious what they were using, just because. I always try to identify what holsters they carry in the small of their backs but can't get a clear look, and I have way too much free time on my hands... - John

The clearest shot of that IWB holster is in S2E3 when Markunda removes Scott's Glock from it. There's some sort of logo or inscription on the metal clip, but I've never been able to make out what it says. They do look to be using the same ones this season, so here's hoping we get a nice close-up. --[[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]] ([[User talk:Mmarlon brando|talk]]) 23:42, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

:After a few minutes of sliding sliders, resizing, cropping and rotating a screencap of that scene, it looks to say "El Paso", and Google leads me to El Paso Leather (And El Paso Saddlery, but that is the wrong company, though they make nice looking holsters) which has the right logo. Unfortunately, they don't have an online catalog to find the specific model of holster.--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] ([[User talk:Crazycrankle|talk]]) 01:16, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

:I did a few minutes on Google and found that El Paso Leather is now Nevada Gun Leather. Try www.nevadagunleather.com and see if the holster is there. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 02:43, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

:Nevada Gun Leather does have an IWB holster that looks to fit the bill. Checking around, it turns out that the holsters themselves are manufactured in South Africa, the frequent home base for filming the show. Link [http://nevadagunleather.com/IWB-Inside-waist-band-143.htm here]. Appreciate the help. --[[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]] ([[User talk:Mmarlon brando|talk]]) 08:27, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

:This is why I love this site! "[[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 12:46, 27 August 2013 (EDT)"

::Looks like Lt. Col Locke was carrying his Sig in a Blackhawk CQC paddle holster during episode 5. Nice to see his character finally "get some dust on his boots."--[[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]] ([[User talk:Mmarlon brando|talk]]) 03:50, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Speaking of the gear, does anybody know if the [[Media:Strike_Back_S04E03_033.jpg|necklace radio pressels]] they have our a real thing or if they are totally made up? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:07, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

:Induction loop earpieces are a real thing but I'm not sure what type Section 20 uses. Last episode, S04E03 gave the best look so far and the closest thing I've found to them have been a bluetooth system (http://img.hisupplier.com/var/userImages/2013-01/21/134426046_Bluetooth_inductive_neckloop_with_mini_wireless_306_earpiece_kit_s.jpg) "[[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 12:51, 27 August 2013 (EDT)"
::I don't think they are induction loops, as they just hang on a chain like dogtags (there were a couple of good shots of them in episode 4). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:24, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Yeah, the first real good shots where when Dalton pulled them out of the glove box. I'd be interested in knowing what the hell it is. [[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 22:15, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
::::Here are a couple of caps of them:[[File:Strike Back S04E04 300.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]][[File:Strike Back S04E04 329.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:46, 8 September 2013 (EDT)

== MP5s in S03E05 ==

I will upload caps for this tomorrow, but just wanted to say my god there were a lot of MP5 variants in that episode. So far I have spotted MP5A2s, MP5A3s, an MP5SD2, an MP5K PDW with a UMP stock, a regular MP5K and a couple of "Reverse Stretch" MP5Ks. I can't quite work out what some of the MP5s were at the airport at the end were though. They looked to be MP5A3s with Navy trigger packs and "F" stocks, however the magazine has me confused. It is straight, but it doesn't match anything I have seen before as it doesn't have the waffle texture of the old style mags (and is too long for a 20 round and too short for a 30), but is too short to be a regular .40 or 10mm mag:
[[File:Strike Back S04E05 314.jpg|thumb|600px|none]]
Any ideas?--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:42, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

== P226 ==

Looks like every member of 20 is carrying a Sig P226 in Episode 5. [[User:Johnoneal|Johnoneal]] ([[User talk:Johnoneal|talk]]) 00:16, 17 September 2013 (EDT)
:Actually the girls were carrying P225s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:23, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Speaking of that. In episode 6 when they were pinned by Skander, Mike actually cleared a jam on his gun and it went back into battery [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:49, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I'm not sure if it does go back into battery fully, I went through frame by frame and couldn't tell as it is too blurry. Later though it jams when he draws his SIG to try and stop the guy reaching for the mortar timer so he racks the slide but this time it definitely jams again, so they just CG in the muzzle flashes. Due to the way this is shot (long continuous takes with multiple cameras) you quite often see them clearing jams, but the P226s they use in this show seem to be a bit of a liability. I seem to remember that the BXP that Rebecca Levi used during the bank robbery kept jamming as well. I imagine that jams are not necessarily more common in this show, but you see them a lot more due to the actors just dealing with them and carrying on rather than them having to do separate takes and editing around it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:24, 24 September 2013 (EDT)

== Unknown weapon is S04E05 ==

This is the best shot I could get of this thing:[[File:Strike Back S04E05 198.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]I think it might be a grenade launcher or possibly a compact shotgun but really have no clue. Any ideas? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:30, 17 September 2013 (EDT)
:I think this is the same gun in S04E06, being held by the officer to the right of the door at the top of the stairs:[[File:Strike Back S04E06 270.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]I ''think'' its a shotgun, but not even sure about that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:35, 23 September 2013 (EDT)

== unknown Handgun S02 ==

Is the unknown pistol in S02E08 the FEG R78?
[[File:Strikebackpd-pistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The pistol in Season 2]]
[[File:FEG R78.jpg|thumb|300px|none|FEG R78 - .32 ACP]]
[[File:Strike Back S04E05 211.jpg|thumb|600px|none|R78 in season 4]]
--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 13:28, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yes, it is. You can tell by the design of the takedown lever at the front of the trigger guard, will get a pic of the left side of the FEG to show it.
::Here is a pic of the left side, you can see that the lever matches:[[File:FEG R78 left.jpg|thumb|300px|none|FEG R78 - .32 ACP]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:20, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

== AK in episode 7 ==

Anybody know what this AK is? I think this was filmed in Hungary, but I don't recognize the muzzle brake:
[[File:Strike Back S04E07 030.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:Strike Back S04E07 031.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
I would guess they are milled as they have the wide front sight and the original gas block, but they aren't really seen properly. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:33, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== CSA Vz 58 in episode 8 ==

[[File:Vz 58 Bolt Carrier Jammed.jpg]]

Just something I noticed in Episode 8. This happened at about 20:29 in. Sgt. Richmond had stopped firing her weapon at this point. In the previous scene the bolt carrier was in battery, as well as after this scene, yet here it is jammed partially open. I guess this is just a technical goof? [[User:52TulaSKS|52TulaSKS]] ([[User talk:52TulaSKS|talk]]) 23:53, 4 October 2013 (EDT)

File:Vz 58 Bolt Carrier Jammed.jpg

2013-10-05T03:49:46Z

52TulaSKS: Screenshot from S4E8, at 20:29 in.

Screenshot from S4E8, at 20:29 in.

Talk:Strike Back - Season 4

2013-08-11T06:56:57Z

52TulaSKS:

OK , I admit I'm clueless what Stonebridge uses, at first it seemed like a modified Vikhr or a 9A91, but its clearly not, so did they chop something up? --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:43, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
:I'm watching it right now, assuming this is the gun you are talking about it's one of those modern CSA Sa. Vz. 58 Compacts:[[File:SA vz.58 Compact 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]][[ File:SB S04E01 SA VZ58 Compact.jpg |thumb|600px|none|]] I'll add screens for the rest of the guns that turn up later assuming nobady else does it before me. EDIT: just noticed this is a 5.56 gun which is also fitted with an [http://www.csa.co.cz/en/16-aktuality/2-sa-vz-58-adapter.html M16 magazine well adapter]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:11, 10 August 2013 (EDT)

Yup, definitely a shorty Vz 58. Took me awhile to notice the magwell adapter, but definitely you knew it wasn't a 7.62x39 gun with the shape of the mag. [[User:52TulaSKS|52TulaSKS]] ([[User talk:52TulaSKS|talk]]) 02:56, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Sa vz. 58

2012-09-25T20:55:13Z

52TulaSKS: Vz 52 is NOT a version of an SKS, changed the weight (it's 6.4 lbs, but was incorrectly stated 6.4 kg)

The '''SA vz.58''' ( ''Samopal vzor 58 - Submachinegun No. 58'' ) is a Czechoslovakian assault rifle designed in the 1950's. Although externally somewhat similar to the [[AK-47]] series of rifles, it is actually a much different weapon, with the internals being closer to those of the German [[Sturmgewehr 44|STG 44]] (with some differences). Despite firing the same cartridge (7.62x39mm) as the AK-47 variants, no Vz.58 part, including the magazine, is interchangeable with those of the AK-47. Though the term Sa. (which is short for ''Samopal'', which means "submachine gun") is part of this firearm's official name, it is not a submachine gun as most firearms historians use the term. The term Sa. was used for all subsequent select fire weapons that Czechoslovakia built and adopted after their last indigenous design, the Vz.52 semi-automatic rifle.
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'''The Sa. Vz.58 can be seen in the following films, television series, and video games us by the following actors:'''

=Sa. Vz. 58P=
[[Image:800px-Sa 58-JH01.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Czech Sa. vz. 58P ''(Pěchotní aka "Infantry")'' with fixed stock - 7.62x39mm]]
==Specifications==
(1959–1984)

* '''Type:''' Assault Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62×39mm M43

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|2.91}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|845}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|390}}

* '''Feed System:''' 30-round box magazine

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto/Full-Auto

-----

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[For Your Eyes Only]]'' || || Guard || || 1981
|-
| ''[[A View to a Kill]]'' || || Soviet soldiers || || 1985
|-
| ''[[Full Metal Jacket]]'' || [[Ngoc Le]] || Việt Cộng sniper || || 1987
|-
| ''[[Sniper]]'' || || Ochoa guards || || 1993
|-
| ''[[Peacemaker, The|The Peacemaker]]'' || || Russian soldiers || || 1997
|-
| ''[[In China They Eat Dogs]]'' || [[Kim Bodnia]] || Harald Blixen || || 1999
|-
| ''[[In China They Eat Dogs]]'' || || Gangsters || || 1999
|-
| ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]'' || || Serbian soldiers || || 2001
|-
| ''[[Old Men in New Cars]]'' || || Ratco's gangster || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Lord of War]]'' || || || Seen in Russian weapons depot || 2005
|-
| ''[[Stealth]]'' || || Tajikistan terrorists || || 2005
|-
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Air Date'''
|-
|''[[CSI: Miami - Season 5|CSI: Miami]]'' || || || "Man Down" || 2002 - 2012
|-
|''[[Vermin, The (Škodná)|The Vermin (Škodná)]]''|| || Czech Special Police Units ||"Snow Day", w/ magazines removed || 2006
|-
| ''[[Devil's Ruse, The (Dáblova lest)| The Devil's Ruse (Dáblova lest)]]'' || ||Czech special police units || || 2008
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
|''[[Operation Flashpoint]]''||Ak 47 CZ||||||2001
|-
|''[[Ghost Recon|Ghost Recon: Island Thunder]]''||vz.58||||||2003
|-
|}

=Sa. Vz. 58V=
[[Image:VZ58.jpg|thumb|right|400px|'''Czech SA Vz.58V''' ''(Výsadkový aka "Airborne")'' with folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
==Specifications==
(1959–1984)

* '''Type:''' Assault Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62×39mm M43

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|2.91}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|845}} (stock extended), {{convert|mm|636}} (stock folded)

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|390}}

* '''Feed System:''' 30-round box magazine

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto/Full-Auto

-----
=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Octopussy]]'' || [[Roger Moore]] || James Bond || || 1983
|-
| ''[[Octopussy]]'' || || Henchmen || || 1983
|-
| ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]'' || || Serbian soldiers || || 2001
|-
|}
=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Air Date'''
|-
|''[[Strike Back: Project Dawn]]'' || [[Phillip Winchester]] || Sergeant Michael Stonebridge || Standard and Tactical variants || 2011
|-
| ''[[Strike Back: Project Dawn]]'' ||[[Sullivan Stapleton]] || Sergeant Damien Scott || Standard and Tactical variants || 2011
|-
|''[[Strike Back: Project Dawn]]'' || || Georgian Special Forces || Tactical version|| 2011
|-
|''[[Unit, The|The Unit]]'' |||| Georgian rebels || "Bait" || 2006 - 2009
|-
|''[[CSI: NY]]''|| || ||"Snow Day", w/ magazines removed || 2004 - ????
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
|''[[Operation Flashpoint]]''||||||||2001
|-
|''[[Vietcong 2]]''||||||||2005
|-
|''[[ArmA II|ArmA II Operation Arrowhead]]''||||Desert camo paint, Red Dots or ACOG sights|| ||2010
|-
|}

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